[03:21] <solarbird> Is there a utility - and I'm really reaching for it here - to check for CPU retracing? Say, when an Intel processor has made bad predictions and has to flush local cache and retrace?
[03:22] <solarbird> Intel processors pay a heavy penalty for that kind of thing (and also for bad hyperthreading, which does the same thing) and I think I'm hitting it.
[03:22] <solarbird> I _might_ be hitting it. It would explain the behaviour.
[04:06] <holstein> solarbird: i would try a programming, or ubuntu dev, or main ubuntu channel
[04:06] <holstein> solarbird: or, general linux for that matter
[04:07] <holstein> nothing is preventing intel from provding such a tool, though, i have not heard about one
[04:17] <solarbird> Yeah, I haven't either.
[14:29] <GigaMan19> hello!!!!!
[18:36] <x-side> Hey there
[18:38] <x-side> Can anyone point me out to a proper deb for wineasio please? After an hour of googling I am very confused somehow on what version to install.
[18:38] <x-side> I run a 12.04 ubuntu studio
[18:39] <x-side> Sorry for a lame one :)
[18:41] <nickgbro> wineasio?
[18:41] <x-side> yup
[18:41] <nickgbro> you can just do sudo apt-get install wine?
[18:41] <x-side> I am trying to run reaper
[18:42] <nickgbro> in a terminal, would that work?
[18:42] <nickgbro> or is wineasio different from wine?
[18:42] <x-side> Is it installed along with wine now? It seemed that I had to install it separately, and most of the links I found on the forums were dead
[18:43] <nickgbro> oh its like a plugin then?
[18:43] <nickgbro> hmm
[18:43] <x-side> It is a library that does a bridge between wine and jack basically
[18:43] <x-side> Pretty much what ASIO4all does for wind0ze
[18:44] <x-side> I have a nice audio interface, which can run with nearly 2ms latency but in wine i get around 46 with the standard thing
[18:45] <x-side> If anyone can just explain the process of making it work that would be great
[18:45] <x-side> Because as I said everything on the internetz I could find was related to the particular cases and usually ended in recompiling kernel kind of stuff :)
[18:47] <x-side> Unfortunately the older I get the more I turn into a musician then a mad computer scientist, so I just stupidly want to get my music production to work
[18:47] <x-side> I know its blasphemy for linux, but I just want things to simply work
[18:47] <x-side> :D
[18:47] <nickgbro> just one sec, a bit busy
[18:48] <x-side> Sure, any help at any convinient time would be very appreciated
[18:48] <x-side> Cheers
[18:50] <nickgbro> lol yah for sure, when stuff doesn't work it sucks
[18:50] <nickgbro> so forums are turning up dead links?
[18:51] <x-side> yup
[18:51] <x-side> I found a link to wineasio 64bit
[18:52] <x-side> Even managed to install it from a deb through the ubuntu software center
[18:52] <x-side> But I dont think I run the 64 version of my system
[18:53] <nickgbro> http://sourceforge.net/projects/wineasio/
[18:53] <nickgbro> ?
[18:53] <x-side> I am installing reaper with PlayOnLinux now
[18:53] <x-side> It is supported
[18:54] <x-side> err it is not a deb unfortunately
[18:54] <x-side> its source
[18:54] <nickgbro> PlayonLinux, ive tried it, right now im looking to get fallout3 if thats going to work
[18:54] <nickgbro> just go through the bash scripts to install?
[18:55] <nickgbro> like "cd /Downloads" "sudo make" "sudo make install"?
[18:55] <nickgbro> Or you can run the install file with terminal and it should work, if its compiled that way
[18:56] <x-side> hmm
[18:56] <x-side> let me try
[18:56] <nickgbro> http://sourceforge.net/projects/wineasio/ try this one maybe?
[18:56] <OvenWerks> x-side: dumb question: why not use all the stuff on linux that just works?
[18:56] <nickgbro> hold on
[18:57] <nickgbro> http://www.linuxine.com/story/download-wineasio-deb-packages
[18:57] <OvenWerks> like ardour or qtractor...
[18:57] <nickgbro> i love ardour, lol
[18:57] <x-side> 0vehWerks unfortunately it is not very comfortable to use it.
[18:57] <x-side> At least for me
[18:58] <OvenWerks> wine is 32 bit BTW, even on a 64bit machine... much like most windows applications
[18:58] <OvenWerks> why are you switching if you have something that works well?
[18:59]  * OvenWerks hasn't used windows except for NT (neutered tech?) at work.
[19:00] <nickgbro> im forced to use windows at work... lol, im full on linux for almost a year now.  I remember almost 10 years ago when i first installed ubuntu when i was 15 and didnt know how to use it
[19:00] <nickgbro> good times
[19:01] <OvenWerks> I left OS/2 for linux in 94ish
[19:01] <x-side> I like ubuntu. And it runs much better on my machine (which is not the top one at all)
[19:02] <nickgbro> isnt mac like built on unix as well or something?
[19:02] <OvenWerks> Slackware 0.8 or so?
[19:02] <nickgbro> ah the early days
[19:02] <OvenWerks> a BSD kernel yes
[19:02] <nickgbro> right
[19:02] <Unit193> Called "darwin" under mac.
[19:02] <x-side> Windows xp is a fine system but it _is_ getting old. Windows 7 is not my cup of tea and win8... Dont even start on it
[19:03] <nickgbro> xps end of life is coming up
[19:03] <x-side> Exactly
[19:03] <x-side> I would not mind moving to a new enviroement at all
[19:03] <x-side> But I cant seem to find nice usable daws there
[19:04] <OvenWerks> Yup my wife got her new computer and I left both windows and linux on it. she said she would use windows, but for some reason her computer always seemed to be running linux.
[19:04] <x-side> And from a musicians point of view you don't want to be distracted from creative process by having to do torchdancing all the time
[19:04] <OvenWerks> DAWs and usablility are a fun topic. Learning something new when you just want to create can be a pain
[19:05] <x-side> So if I could get reaper to work under ubuntu (which most of the people on the internet somehow claim to manage _easily_) that would be a killer combination
[19:05] <OvenWerks> I would find a DAW on windows painful for the same reason.
[19:05] <x-side> I think sometimes learning a new daw can inspire and boost your creativity
[19:05] <x-side> I've been making music on PC since 99
[19:06] <x-side> And tried most of the major DAWS
[19:06] <x-side> Made a lot of money with productions made with cubase and even cakewalk
[19:06] <x-side> But now all I want is simple stuff
[19:07] <x-side> Even the VSTs are annoying, there are thousands of them and then you end up looking for a sound for an hour and loose the momentum
[19:07] <x-side> So i am trying to stick to the hardware now
[19:08] <x-side> So just need a simple but powerful recording tool
[19:08] <OvenWerks> lmms and gorgand are closer to what you want but don't seem to record audio very well.
[19:08] <nickgbro> lmms is how i make my beats
[19:08] <OvenWerks> That is they are based on the one app does everything concept but are not complete
[19:10] <OvenWerks> reaper is supposed to be having a version developed for linux, but I have heard various thoughts on how coomplete that is.
[19:10] <OvenWerks> reaper is not concidered by it's devs ready for primetime for sure
[19:10] <x-side> Unfortunately the version for linux is the same windows exe file. They just use it as a marketing catch
[19:11] <x-side> You still need to fornicate with wine and sacrifice cockroaches
[19:12] <x-side> Maybe I should just use audacity and slowly degrade :D
[19:13] <OvenWerks> audacity is great for _deiting_ audio, but not really for multi-tracking. Ardour is sooo much better.
[19:13] <OvenWerks> editing...
[19:14]  * OvenWerks wanders off to eat
[19:22] <x-side> Meh. Beautiful. Just merely running audio configuration in reaper has frozen my machine to the mouse pointer
[19:24] <nickgbro> ardour for sure, jump in and play around til you're comfortable in there
[19:28] <x-side> Will try
[19:28] <x-side> :)
[19:30] <x-side> It might actually give that inspiration boost
[19:31] <x-side> I will still have  to use reason though
[19:32] <x-side> It is awesome for a quick work
[20:03] <nickgbro> I miss reason :(
[20:03] <nickgbro> Made a lot of neat stuff in there
[20:04] <holstein> nothing is preventing reason from being released for ubuntu/linux.. ask them for support
[20:05] <HisaoNakai> nickgbro: You'll love Linux, then xD
[20:06] <HisaoNakai> nickgbro: It's a big as heck rack, basically. ;)
[20:08] <nickgbro> I love linux for other reasons, I love LMMS, it makes different sounds then..
[20:10] <nickgbro> lightworks released a linux version of lightworks... I've never played with the windows version, but given enough time with it, it could eb a very powerful video editing program
[20:13] <HisaoNakai> O_o
[20:24] <guy__> Bonsoir à tous.
[20:26] <guy__> Je suis sur ubuntu studio depuis peu et je galère un max pour installer correctement ma intuos 5
[20:26] <guy__> Quelqu'un pourrait-il m'aider?
[20:38] <MrElg> Hi folks. I have a problem with the installation og U.Studio on my computer. After the installation I cannot bring the wifi up. It do work in the live session installer tho, so I find it kind of strange. Any help is appreciated
[20:38] <HisaoNakai> MrElg: Do try #nm as well.
[20:38] <HisaoNakai> *Definitely try, actually
[20:39] <MrElg> thanks for the tip, ill check there
[20:41] <HisaoNakai> MrElg: No probs. The user ;dcbw is the man to speak to :)
[20:41] <HisaoNakai> *'dcbw'
[20:42] <MrElg> seems like dcbw is not connected atm, but thank, the question is at least out there in the open