[06:32] <Kilos> morning all
[06:32] <Kilos> takes a while for konversation to see who is away
[06:38] <zerlgi> Morning Kilos
[06:38] <Kilos> hi zerlgi 
[06:39] <Kilos> you show as away, lurking time?
[06:39] <Kilos> ah there you go
[06:39] <zerlgi> Kilos, do you think you're going to be in JHB for SFD this yerar.
[06:39] <zerlgi> s/yerar/year/
[06:39] <Kilos> nope i dont go anywhere zerlgi 
[06:39] <zerlgi> ok.
[06:41] <zerlgi> the reason I asked was that I might be up in JHB for this one.
[06:46] <Kilos> hmm...
[06:46] <Kilos> morning superfly 
[06:46] <superfly> morning Kilos
[06:46] <superfly> ohi zerlgi
[06:47] <zerlgi> Hi Superfly
[06:47] <Kilos> where are the cape flats in relation to where you are superfly 
[06:47] <superfly> Kilos: depends on whether I'm at home or at work
[06:47] <Kilos> hiya maiatoday 
[06:47] <superfly> Kilos: at home they are to the east... further along the bay
[06:48] <Kilos> got a mail that they gonna role out free wifi in the flats soon
[06:53] <Kilos> i wonder what the plan is with the free wifi bit all of a sardine
[06:58] <maiatoday> hi Kilos
[07:01] <superfly> môre maiatoday
[07:25] <inetpro> good mornings
[07:26] <Kilos> morning inetpro 
[07:37] <Kilos> hi barrydk 
[07:37] <barrydk> Good morning everyone
[07:38] <zerlgi> mornings inetpro, barrydk
[07:39] <barrydk> Everyone fine on this lovely morning?
[07:40] <Kilos> ya
[07:43] <barrydk> Stupid question. How do i run google earth from the terminal as suddenly mine won't work from the dash home thingie?
[07:49] <Kilos> just type in the app name
[07:50] <Kilos> if it needs root priviledges you sudo "name
[07:51] <Kilos> or try a reinstall of it
[07:51] <Kilos> sudo aptitude reinstall "app"
[07:52] <Kilos> i dont have it installed so cant check but will look on the 1st if you aint got it working yet
[07:52] <zerlgi> Google Earth shouldn't need root privs (
[07:52] <Kilos> hehe
[07:52] <zerlgi> ... but install would
[07:53] <zerlgi> it's probably run from /opt/{some-directory}
[07:53]  * zerlgi runs off to see on wife's PC
[08:05] <ThatGraemeGuy> morning all :)
[08:05] <Kilos> hi ThatGraemeGuy 
[08:09] <zerlgi> Hi barrydk
[08:09] <zerlgi> the terminal path is probably /opt/google/earth/free/googleearth
[08:09] <zerlgi> ... but press [tab] a lot
[08:09] <zerlgi> to make sure that yours is the same
[08:10] <Kilos> wont it run just by typing in googleearth
[08:11] <zerlgi> .. only if the path to googleearth is in the $PATH variable.
[08:11] <zerlgi> in terminal: echo $PATH
[08:11] <zerlgi> ... will return the path.
[08:11] <zerlgi> ... that is how on Win/Lin/Mac launching from a command prompt works
[08:11] <Kilos> ah
[08:12] <Kilos> oh my
[08:12] <Kilos> splits again
[08:12] <Kilos> i thought just his dash lost it, then normally a reinstall fixes it
[08:14] <zerlgi> when you type something it looks for a match in the locations specified by PATH
[08:16] <Kilos> ah
[08:16] <Kilos> wont aptitude reinstall fix that?
[08:17] <Kilos> i like aptitude, removes stuff not needed
[08:18] <Kilos> only thing to watch is that it dont wanna remove ubuntu-desktop
[08:18] <Kilos> i think it does that with purge gwibber
[08:18] <barrydk> so much for a simple answer. 
[08:19] <Kilos> try a reinstall with aptitude barrydk 
[08:19] <barrydk> I'm going to try that cause i'm lost completely now
[08:20] <Kilos> when last did it work
[08:20] <Kilos> zerlgi: will help you if reinstall dont work
[08:21] <barrydk> Realy don't know  Kilos  Thanks zerlgi 
[08:23] <zerlgi> tx Kilos for volunteering me. barrydk will certainly try...
[08:24] <barrydk> I'll ask google also 
[08:28] <zerlgi> there is probably a .-directory with config affecting you...
[08:28] <zerlgi> so the right thing to try is to launch from terminal first.
[08:28] <zerlgi> that way you'll be able to see where the app crashes and whether a re-install will actually fix it...
[08:29] <zerlgi> if you have a fast internet connection I can show you via google chrome "remote desktop"
[08:33] <Kilos> oh my
[08:33] <Kilos> net not happy again today
[08:54] <Kilos> hmm he either got it working or crashed his pc
[08:59] <Kilos> ThatGraemeGuy: when do you start the new job
[09:00] <ThatGraemeGuy> resignation date + 4 weeks
[09:00] <Kilos> we gotta have a party
[09:00] <ThatGraemeGuy> still working out minor details before i formally accept
[09:00] <Kilos> coffee and cookies on you
[09:27] <charl> good morning all
[09:27] <charl> Maaz: coffee on
[09:27]  * Maaz starts grinding coffee
[09:31] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for charl!
[09:41] <barrydk> I re-install google earth and now it is working for about 10 seconds then it boms out i sommer go back to windowzzz
[09:50] <charl> Maaz: thanks
[09:50] <Maaz> charl: Sure
[09:50] <charl> wb barrydk 
[09:57] <charl> barrydk: wb Kilos 
[09:57] <charl> ag sorry
[09:57] <charl> started typing and then stopped :)
[09:57] <Kilos> ty charl 
[09:57] <charl> barrydk: are you running google earth under ubuntu 13.04? i've been using it and had no problems so far
[09:57] <Kilos> some bug in pc or someone hacking me
[09:58] <charl> :(
[09:58] <Kilos> everything disconnects but modem shows online still
[09:58] <charl> 3g modem? no clue, maybe the signal fell out
[09:59] <Kilos> it still shows connected and if i move it to another 3g port it doesnt connect again till i reboot
[10:00] <Kilos> normally modem starts flashing before everything disconnects
[10:00] <Kilos> grrr
[10:00] <Kilos> is barrydk still battling
[10:01] <barrydk> Charl i'm using 12.04 64bit. It worked fine for a long time now suddenly it's giving me a hard time
[10:01] <Kilos> whew
[10:06] <magespawn> good day all
[10:06] <barrydk> Hi Magesp
[10:06] <barrydk> Hi Magesppawn
[10:08] <magespawn> hi barrydk 
[10:15] <magespawn> on my way out again. bbl
[10:17] <Kilos> hi magespawn 
[10:17] <Kilos> ai!
[10:18] <Kilos> barrydk: whats happening?
[10:20] <charl> barrydk: might it have happened after a kernel upgrade?
[10:20] <charl> maybe it causes some problem with 3d acceleration and your graphics card
[10:20] <charl> could also be your graphics drivers
[10:23] <Kilos> it sucks when something all of a sudden stops working
[10:23] <charl> yeah very
[10:25] <Kilos> charl can one change your ip addy to anything
[10:25] <Kilos> or must you follow rules
[10:26] <Kilos> uh oh pc gone into go slow mode
[10:28] <Kilos> wbb
[10:35] <Squirm> hey
[10:35] <Kilos> hi Squirm 
[10:36] <Squirm> Kilos: there are certain IP adresses assigned for private use
[10:36] <Squirm> addresses
[10:36] <Kilos> ah
[10:37] <Kilos> ive just plugged in router and hopefully that firewall thing helps
[10:37] <barrydk> Hi Charl Sorry ran around here. I'm sure there was a kernel upgrade or two since the last time i used it
[10:37] <Kilos> otherwise something no well in this pc
[10:37] <Squirm> I know what they are, but found this - gives the total available IP in each field
[10:37] <Squirm> Private IP address ranges
[10:37] <Squirm> The ranges and the amount of usable IP's are as follows:
[10:37] <Squirm> 10.0.0.0 - 10.255.255.255
[10:37] <Squirm> Addresses: 16,777,216
[10:37] <Squirm> 172.16.0.0 - 172.31.255.255
[10:37] <Squirm> Addresses: 1,048,576
[10:37] <Squirm> 192.168.0.0 - 192.168.255.255
[10:37] <Squirm> Addresses: 65,536
[10:38] <Kilos> but if i change mine then i gotta go off dhcp hey?
[10:39] <Kilos> lemme find router book and see if that firewall will block all incoming
[10:40] <Squirm> Kilos: they usually block incoming
[10:41] <Kilos> good and if pc then still hits slow mode then its the pc not someone/thing trying to get in
[10:41] <Squirm> is your router connected to the internet?
[10:41] <Kilos> yes through 3g
[10:47] <Kilos> whew there lotsa stuff in the routers firewall
[10:48] <Kilos> i enabled block wan ping
[10:49] <Kilos> and turned on intrusion detection
[10:49] <Kilos> dunno what else to do but will see what happens here
[10:57] <Kilos> hmm...
[10:57] <Kilos> looks like something in pidgin or evolution slows the pc down
[10:59] <Squirm> check your task manager
[10:59] <Squirm> or in terminal use the command top
[11:00] <Kilos> running top
[11:01] <Kilos> opened pidgin again and all still fast
[11:04] <zerlgi> Kilos, 3G does that sometimes. ppp connection still up. but nothing goes through. Is that what you are experiencing, or is your entire desktop hanging?
[11:05] <Kilos> i had the prob with an e220 but never before on my arab 3g
[11:06] <Kilos> switching from workspace to workspace gets very slow but seems ok with evolution closed
[11:07] <Kilos> and now the 3g is in the router not directly connected to pc
[11:15] <Kilos> looks like its evolution causing it
[11:15] <Kilos> all still fast with evo closed
[11:15] <Kilos> hmm...
[11:29] <zerlgi> k. you could check if there are plugins in Evolution that you don't require, and disable them. that *might* help some.
[11:30] <Kilos> ill try that ty zerlgi 
[11:31] <Kilos> just gonna run pc without evo for a while and see
[11:56] <charl> hi sorry Kilos i am running around at work
[11:56] <charl> but i see you already got help
[11:57] <charl> need to go again bbl
[12:07] <Kilos> hi wilsonmc 
[12:07] <Kilos> welcome to ubuntu-za
[12:23] <wilsonmc> hi Kilos
[12:24] <wilsonmc> nice to see a ZA Ubuntu grp
[12:24] <wilsonmc> what do you guys chat about here?
[12:25] <Kilos> we help peeps with linux probs
[12:25] <Kilos> and normal chat thats friends do
[12:26] <Kilos> do you use ubuntu wilsonmc ?
[12:26] <wilsonmc> oh cool
[12:26] <wilsonmc> yeah I do
[12:26] <Kilos> this is the official ubuntu help channel in za
[12:27] <wilsonmc> that's awesome. I'm glad I stumbled upon it
[12:27] <Kilos> well this is the right place for help and if you one of the boffs you can hang here and help others too
[12:27] <Kilos> oh you still new?
[12:27] <Kilos> or just to here
[12:28] <Kilos> hehe
[12:28] <wilsonmc> lol not extremely new, but definitely not a boff yet. I guess I'm more of a power user
[12:28] <wilsonmc> Like Stephen Fry said ;)
[12:30] <Kilos> well welcome here and shout if you need help or just get to meet the guys
[12:30] <Kilos> we have our monthly meeting next monday evening here
[12:30] <wilsonmc> Thanks a lot! Will do
[12:30] <wilsonmc> oh, is it an irc meeting?
[12:31] <Kilos> where are you and what do you do? if i may ask
[12:31] <wilsonmc> Im in CPT, CS student. U?
[12:31] <Kilos> yip the ubuntu loco monthly meet
[12:31] <Kilos> pta 
[12:31] <Kilos> was student 54 years ago
[12:31] <wilsonmc> that's awesome! That way I could even attend! (If i'm allowed)
[12:32] <Kilos> yes we welcome anyone
[12:32] <Kilos> quite a few of the guys here are in ct
[12:32] <Kilos> you can also join our mailing list
[12:33] <Kilos> http://bit.ly/MCOujZ
[12:33] <wilsonmc> WOW
[12:33] <wilsonmc> So u r a super guru?
[12:33] <Kilos> nope im a greeter bot
[12:33] <wilsonmc> thanks, just joined it, signed up on the website too
[12:34] <Kilos> cool
[12:34] <wilsonmc> LMAO
[12:34] <Kilos> hehe
[12:34] <wilsonmc> greeter bot? High Tech
[12:35] <wilsonmc> is everyone else bysy/distracted/asleep?
[12:36] <wilsonmc> busy*
[12:40] <zerlgi> wilsonmc, hi. 
[12:40] <zerlgi> I'm away attending to support calls.
[12:44] <wilsonmc> hi zerlgi
[12:44] <wilsonmc> ok, that's cool
[12:45]  * zerlgi waves, then gets back to phoning
[12:45] <wilsonmc> :D
[12:48]  * zerlgi is back for a bit
[12:48] <zerlgi> wilsonmc sometimes it's pretty quiet in here, some days it's busy.
[12:48] <zerlgi> there are also a couple of other Linux'y IRC chatrooms
[12:49] <zerlgi> there is the Gauteng Linux User Group (GLUG) room: #glug.za on which you'd find quite a few of the same members as this room
[12:49] <zerlgi> and on a different network (atrum), is the Cape Linux Users Group chatroom #clug
[12:50] <zerlgi> what app are you using to connect to IRC?. Empathy or something like Xchat?
[12:50] <zerlgi> btw, wilsonmc. Software Freedom Day events 2 weeks time.
[12:50] <zerlgi> ... in case you hadn't heard.
[12:51] <Kilos> sorry! having 3g probs today
[12:56]  * zerlgi going away again
[12:58] <wilsonmc> sorry zerlgi, had the chat in a background window
[12:58] <wilsonmc> im using weechat 0.4
[12:59] <wilsonmc> what about you?
[12:59] <zerlgi> ... xchat
[12:59] <zerlgi> on Linux Mint.
[12:59] <wilsonmc> i hadn't heard about the softeare freedom day, checking out the website now
[13:00] <zerlgi> re weechat. Quite the power user then...
[13:00] <zerlgi> ;-P
[13:01] <zerlgi> the #clug folks are probably doing the CT stuff.. see #clug on autumn.cpt.za.atrum.org
[13:01]  * zerlgi goes away again
[13:02] <wilsonmc> re power user: lol i try
[13:03] <wilsonmc> thanks 4 the info, i'll try and link up
[13:09] <Kilos-> hmm...
[13:14]  * Kilos checking if both pcs will disconnect
[13:18] <Kilos> ohi Xethron forgot to greet you today
[13:18] <Kilos> sorry
[14:16] <Kilos> sigh
[16:03] <Vince-0> haai
[16:04]  * Vince-0 is making FIRE
[16:07] <Kilos> hi Vince-0 you gonna braai
[16:07] <Vince-0> ribbetjies
[16:07] <Kilos> lekker
[16:09] <Kilos> wow we min again
[16:55] <Kilos> hi psychicist charl 
[16:57]  * inetpro getting hungry now
[16:57] <inetpro> Vince-0: your fault!
[16:58] <inetpro> ai daai ribbetjies klink so lekker 
[16:58] <Kilos> lo inetpro 
[16:58] <inetpro> goeiemore Kilos
[16:58] <Kilos> hehe
[16:59] <inetpro> oops, waar's ons nou?
[16:59] <inetpro> iemand al weer die horlosie te vinnig gedraai
[17:04] <Kilos> nee man jy skrik nou eers wakker van gisteraand
[17:17] <magespawn> good evening
[17:25] <Kilos> hi magespawn 
[17:25] <magespawn> hey i see we had some new faces
[17:28] <Kilos> yeah
[17:29] <Kilos> lets hope they arent one night stands
[17:31] <magespawn> ah well, we take what we can get
[17:31] <magespawn> just recieved my first spam from an outlook.com address
[17:32] <Kilos> hit it with sugarplum
[17:33] <magespawn> is in gmail, so flagged as spam, already
[17:33] <Kilos> *received
[17:34] <Kilos> ah
[17:35] <superfly> Kilos: sugarplum is not a spam filter, it's a honeypot of sorts
[17:35] <Kilos> its supposed to attack back isnt it superfly 
[17:36] <superfly> Kilos: it doesn't try to get rid of spam in your mailbox and it doesn't use your mailbox
[17:36] <superfly> yes, but by poisoning the spammer's lists
[17:36] <Kilos> thats good
[17:36] <Kilos> they cant keep getting away with the nonsense
[17:38] <magespawn> does it work?
[17:39] <Kilos> its like with thieves, in countries where they have a hand chopped off there are no thieves
[17:39] <magespawn> orr at leasr ones that do not get caught
[17:39] <Kilos> lol
[17:39] <magespawn> or and least
[17:40] <magespawn> superfly does it work?
[17:42] <Kilos> magespawn: have you looked at gamil if there arent good mails marked as spam too
[17:42] <Kilos> gmail
[17:45] <magespawn> yes happens every now and then, but not often, and usually if does i correct then does not usually happen again
[17:46] <Kilos> ah
[17:46] <magespawn> http://www.infragistics.com/community/blogs/d-coding/archive/2013/08/21/developer-humor-technically-correct.aspx
[17:50] <charl> hi Kilos, magespawn, superfly, inetpro 
[18:06] <magespawn> hi charl
[18:14] <magespawn> this via linux foundation on g+ https://www.linux.com/learn/tutorials/734125-how-to-install-sparkleshare-your-open-source-dropbox-alternative-on-linux
[18:14] <magespawn> sorry i can't seem to copy paste the short link from Maaz
[18:18] <magespawn> but it looks like it breaks the t&c of the hosting site
[18:25] <Kilos> yo not_found 
[18:26] <not_found> uncle Kilos, how are you?
[18:26] <superfly> why not use ownCloud?
[18:29] <magespawn> I do, at least on my own hardware.
[18:30] <magespawn> http://playingwithpython.com/learning-gui-development-with-pyqt/ something from the python group on g+
[18:31] <not_found> also add https://class.coursera.org/programming1-002/class/index for the python thingy... started on monday so still time to climb in and do it ;)
[18:35] <magespawn> hey not_found 
[18:36] <not_found> o/ magespawn
[18:37] <superfly> magespawn: OpenLP is written in PyQt
[18:37] <magespawn> cool beans, i am still amazed by that program
[18:51] <Kilos> just did aptitude purge evolution and used muon to remove anything evolution related
[18:51] <magespawn> I am Maaz at home tonight
[18:51] <Kilos> dunno what went wrong in there but i think thats been where all my probs been coming from last month or so
[18:52] <Kilos> lol what you mean magespawn 
[18:52] <Kilos> coffee on
[18:52] <Kilos> im sad. have used evo since i started with ubuntu
[18:53] <Kilos> and kmail dont even try to work
[18:53]  * Kilos cries
[18:53] <not_found> uncle Kilos, you on KDE now?
[18:54] <Kilos> yes have been on and off for months not_found 
[18:54] <not_found> can always still use thundebird...
[18:54] <Kilos> use 12.04 kde and unity and maverick to fix them
[18:55] <Kilos> i didnt like thunderbird thats why i used evo in here
[18:55] <Kilos> evo has a built in backup tool
[18:55] <Kilos> but its almost like there was a virus in it now
[18:56] <not_found> linux can sometimes be its own virus >.<
[18:56] <Kilos> modems show online but no net connection
[18:56] <Kilos> then i opened evo now to check for mail and pc rebooted
[18:57] <Kilos> and today with evo open pc kept going into slow mode
[18:57] <not_found> ouch
[18:57] <Kilos> grrr
[18:57] <Kilos> was even thinking i been hacked
[19:01] <magespawn> i get to make the coffee Kilos 
[19:02] <Kilos> rofl
[19:02] <Kilos> magespawn: coffee on
[19:03]  * magespawn starts grinding some beans
[19:03] <inetpro> magespawn: coffee please
[19:03] <inetpro> with rusks as well
[19:04] <magespawn> There is already a pot on and it is all reserved
[19:04] <inetpro> ai!
[19:04]  * inetpro goes to make his own
[19:05] <inetpro> no need to grind more beans for me
[19:05] <inetpro> Kilos: what is wrong with Thunderbird?
[19:06] <Kilos> it didnt have the backup utility
[19:06] <Kilos> will install and tell you what else
[19:06] <inetpro> Thunderbird is cross platform, unlike most others
[19:07] <inetpro> why need an extra backup utility?
[19:07] <inetpro> just backup your home folder 
[19:08] <Kilos> it was lekker man remembered all the passwords and settings etc
[19:08] <inetpro> what was lekker?
[19:08] <Kilos> and i had a few mails that i kept with info
[19:08] <Kilos> evo backup
[19:08] <inetpro> so?
[19:09] <Kilos> never mind
[19:09] <inetpro> you can create subfolders in Thunderbird as many as you want
[19:09] <Kilos> ive removed it all and will see if pc still messes around
[19:09] <Kilos> thats all more thinking man
[19:09] <inetpro> ai!
[19:11] <inetpro> Evolution has IMHO always been a massive bloated blob of a mess
[19:12] <not_found> +1
[19:12] <not_found> :p
[19:12]  * magespawn feels sorry for inetpro, two 'ai's' in one evening, ships him a cupa joe with Ouma rusks
[19:12]  * not_found going to go and walk to stay awake... stoopid night shifts
[19:12] <not_found> bbml
[19:13] <magespawn> double espresso for not_found
[19:13] <inetpro> magespawn: hmm... thanks
[19:14] <Kilos> wbb going to maverick
[19:14]  * inetpro now gets to drink two cups all at once
[19:16] <kbmonkey> evening
[19:17] <magespawn> hey kbmonkey 
[19:19] <inetpro> wb kbmonkey
[19:24] <magespawn> bet this would drive some sysadmins mad https://github.com/emvigo/apt-wishlist
[19:25] <magespawn> from Debian discussion on g+
[19:29] <kbmonkey> wb kil	
[19:29] <kbmonkey> thanks inetpro, magespawn 
[19:29] <kbmonkey> wb Kilos 
[19:29] <Kilos> ty fellas
[19:30] <magespawn> Kilos: is like a boomarang or a cold, tonight
[19:30] <kbmonkey> or flip-flops
[19:30] <kbmonkey> or a yoyo
[19:31] <Kilos> im on maverick so i can sent mail to ian without my modem or pc crashing
[19:32] <kbmonkey> it crashes when you send mail on other flavors? hectik!
[19:32] <Kilos> i think evolution has a serious bug in it on 12.04
[19:32] <inetpro> Kilos: and when you use the gmail web interface?
[19:33] <magespawn> only Kilos gets this sort of thing, he is a developers unicorn
[19:34] <inetpro> should have a webcam watching his every move and click of the mouse and keyboard
[19:34] <Kilos> hehe
[19:35] <Kilos> i dont like going online to look at mails
[19:35] <Kilos> eats data
[19:36] <inetpro> mails eat data even when you send and receive with a local app
[19:37] <Kilos> nope only new mail comes down
[19:38] <inetpro> and when you send?
[19:38] <Kilos> just opening gmail up there uses data before you do anything else
[19:38] <Kilos> when i send i use only that one mails data
[19:38] <inetpro> Kilos: I agree, but it get's cached
[19:39] <kbmonkey> understand Kilos, that web interface fails to load sometimes on slow connections - not ideal
[19:39] <Kilos> thats fine up there 
[19:39] <kbmonkey> I use mutt
[19:39] <inetpro> oh yeah
[19:40] <inetpro> kbmonkey: that may be a good solution for someone like Kilos
[19:40] <kbmonkey> it is a nightmare to set up though 
[19:40] <kbmonkey> especially if you have to chain it through offlineimap
[19:40] <inetpro> hmm...
[19:41] <kbmonkey> Kilos, sometimes I use the mobile version of gmail on my pc, it does not load any fancy stuff and is much lighter ;)
[19:41] <kbmonkey> m.gmail.com
[19:41] <kbmonkey> just fyi
[19:41] <Kilos> ty
[19:41]  * inetpro agrees with kbmonkey
[19:42] <inetpro> that mobile interface can be real handy
[19:42] <kbmonkey> a life saver some times!
[19:43] <Kilos> ya but still i try not browse lots
[19:44] <Kilos> so will give thunderbird another go with pop
[19:44] <Kilos> then you only get new mails come down
[19:48] <Kilos> mavewiiiick be kifffff
[19:50] <Kilos> was very weird today, internet disconnected but both modems showed connected
[19:50] <Kilos> but only with eveolution open
[19:50] <Kilos> evo
[19:50] <Kilos> if thats not a virus or been hacked i dunno
[19:51]  * Kilos waits for comments
[19:52] <magespawn> could just be a software glich, does happen
[19:53] <Kilos> on 2 different drives
[19:53] <Kilos> and why affect the modem
[19:55] <kbmonkey> just be careful on new thunderbird accounts - IIR you have to set it to only download the last n-days of mails, otherwise it grabs *everything* the first time. gulp.
[19:56] <Kilos> ya thunderbird wasnt lekker
[19:56] <Kilos> i got over 3g of mails up there
[19:57] <inetpro> eish!
[19:57] <kbmonkey> does alpine support imap? dunno.. but it has some weird navigation too
[19:57] <Kilos> lol
[19:57]  * inetpro likes this http://xkcd.com/1254/
[19:57] <kbmonkey> use alpine on my shell account, but it is not my favorite
[19:57] <Kilos> imap on thunderbird aint good at all
[19:57] <Kilos> pop was better
[19:58] <kbmonkey> Kilos, let us make a cli client that rocks the rest
[19:58] <kbmonkey> yar imap is not too nice for slower connections
[19:58] <Kilos> client to do what
[19:58] <Kilos> oh mail client
[19:58] <Kilos> i see mutt is in kde
[19:59] <Kilos> when you try remove it it wants to remove kubuntu-full as well
[19:59] <kbmonkey> Kilos, I could not ask you to set up mutt, it may give you a head explosion. lol. it did me.
[19:59] <Kilos> stupid
[19:59] <Kilos> oh my
[20:04] <Kilos> Maaz, Maverick ++
[20:05] <Kilos> uh oh
[20:05] <kbmonkey> Maaz, 
[20:05] <Maaz> kbmonkey: Sorry...
[20:10] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight
[20:20] <magespawn> thats about me for tonight as well, good night.
[20:25] <kbmonkey> gn :)
[20:33] <Vince-0> yaaarrrn
[20:33] <Vince-0> me2
[20:34] <Vince-0> something for you kbmonkey? http://online.computicket.com/web/event/i_am_hardwell_sa_tour/752489174
[20:34] <Vince-0> not my cup of death metal tea
[20:34] <Vince-0> im out!
[20:35] <inetpro> kbmonkey:  Use Gmail in terminal with vmail  http://linuxicle.blogspot.com/2013/08/use-gmail-in-terminal-with-vmail.html
[20:35] <kbmonkey> thanks inetpro, I will check that out!
[20:36]  * inetpro would love to try that also, but not now
[20:44] <kbmonkey> looks interesting! it requires ruby-dev too, a bit large for a mail client, might check it out on the weekend
[20:44] <kbmonkey> I'm also out. gotta get my rest -.-