[06:32] morning all [06:32] takes a while for konversation to see who is away [06:38] Morning Kilos [06:38] hi zerlgi [06:39] you show as away, lurking time? [06:39] ah there you go [06:39] Kilos, do you think you're going to be in JHB for SFD this yerar. [06:39] s/yerar/year/ [06:39] nope i dont go anywhere zerlgi [06:39] ok. [06:41] the reason I asked was that I might be up in JHB for this one. [06:46] hmm... [06:46] morning superfly [06:46] morning Kilos [06:46] ohi zerlgi [06:47] Hi Superfly [06:47] where are the cape flats in relation to where you are superfly [06:47] Kilos: depends on whether I'm at home or at work [06:47] hiya maiatoday [06:47] Kilos: at home they are to the east... further along the bay [06:48] got a mail that they gonna role out free wifi in the flats soon [06:53] i wonder what the plan is with the free wifi bit all of a sardine [06:58] hi Kilos [07:01] môre maiatoday [07:25] good mornings [07:26] morning inetpro [07:37] hi barrydk [07:37] Good morning everyone [07:38] mornings inetpro, barrydk [07:39] Everyone fine on this lovely morning? [07:40] ya [07:43] Stupid question. How do i run google earth from the terminal as suddenly mine won't work from the dash home thingie? [07:49] just type in the app name [07:50] if it needs root priviledges you sudo "name [07:51] or try a reinstall of it [07:51] sudo aptitude reinstall "app" [07:52] i dont have it installed so cant check but will look on the 1st if you aint got it working yet [07:52] Google Earth shouldn't need root privs ( [07:52] hehe [07:52] ... but install would [07:53] it's probably run from /opt/{some-directory} [07:53] * zerlgi runs off to see on wife's PC [08:05] morning all :) [08:05] hi ThatGraemeGuy [08:09] Hi barrydk [08:09] the terminal path is probably /opt/google/earth/free/googleearth [08:09] ... but press [tab] a lot [08:09] to make sure that yours is the same [08:10] wont it run just by typing in googleearth [08:11] .. only if the path to googleearth is in the $PATH variable. [08:11] in terminal: echo $PATH [08:11] ... will return the path. [08:11] ... that is how on Win/Lin/Mac launching from a command prompt works [08:11] ah [08:12] oh my [08:12] splits again [08:12] i thought just his dash lost it, then normally a reinstall fixes it [08:14] when you type something it looks for a match in the locations specified by PATH [08:16] ah [08:16] wont aptitude reinstall fix that? [08:17] i like aptitude, removes stuff not needed [08:18] only thing to watch is that it dont wanna remove ubuntu-desktop [08:18] i think it does that with purge gwibber [08:18] so much for a simple answer. [08:19] try a reinstall with aptitude barrydk [08:19] I'm going to try that cause i'm lost completely now [08:20] when last did it work [08:20] zerlgi: will help you if reinstall dont work [08:21] Realy don't know Kilos Thanks zerlgi [08:23] tx Kilos for volunteering me. barrydk will certainly try... [08:24] I'll ask google also [08:28] there is probably a .-directory with config affecting you... [08:28] so the right thing to try is to launch from terminal first. [08:28] that way you'll be able to see where the app crashes and whether a re-install will actually fix it... [08:29] if you have a fast internet connection I can show you via google chrome "remote desktop" [08:33] oh my [08:33] net not happy again today [08:54] hmm he either got it working or crashed his pc [08:59] ThatGraemeGuy: when do you start the new job [09:00] resignation date + 4 weeks [09:00] we gotta have a party [09:00] still working out minor details before i formally accept [09:00] coffee and cookies on you [09:27] good morning all [09:27] Maaz: coffee on [09:27] * Maaz starts grinding coffee [09:31] Coffee's ready for charl! [09:41] I re-install google earth and now it is working for about 10 seconds then it boms out i sommer go back to windowzzz [09:50] Maaz: thanks [09:50] charl: Sure [09:50] wb barrydk [09:57] barrydk: wb Kilos [09:57] ag sorry [09:57] started typing and then stopped :) [09:57] ty charl [09:57] barrydk: are you running google earth under ubuntu 13.04? i've been using it and had no problems so far [09:57] some bug in pc or someone hacking me [09:58] :( [09:58] everything disconnects but modem shows online still [09:58] 3g modem? no clue, maybe the signal fell out [09:59] it still shows connected and if i move it to another 3g port it doesnt connect again till i reboot [10:00] normally modem starts flashing before everything disconnects [10:00] grrr [10:00] is barrydk still battling [10:01] Charl i'm using 12.04 64bit. It worked fine for a long time now suddenly it's giving me a hard time [10:01] whew [10:06] good day all [10:06] Hi Magesp [10:06] Hi Magesppawn [10:08] hi barrydk [10:15] on my way out again. bbl [10:17] hi magespawn [10:17] ai! [10:18] barrydk: whats happening? [10:20] barrydk: might it have happened after a kernel upgrade? [10:20] maybe it causes some problem with 3d acceleration and your graphics card [10:20] could also be your graphics drivers [10:23] it sucks when something all of a sudden stops working [10:23] yeah very [10:25] charl can one change your ip addy to anything [10:25] or must you follow rules [10:26] uh oh pc gone into go slow mode [10:28] wbb [10:35] hey [10:35] hi Squirm [10:36] Kilos: there are certain IP adresses assigned for private use [10:36] addresses [10:36] ah [10:37] ive just plugged in router and hopefully that firewall thing helps [10:37] Hi Charl Sorry ran around here. I'm sure there was a kernel upgrade or two since the last time i used it [10:37] otherwise something no well in this pc [10:37] I know what they are, but found this - gives the total available IP in each field [10:37] Private IP address ranges [10:37] The ranges and the amount of usable IP's are as follows: [10:37] 10.0.0.0 - 10.255.255.255 [10:37] Addresses: 16,777,216 [10:37] 172.16.0.0 - 172.31.255.255 [10:37] Addresses: 1,048,576 [10:37] 192.168.0.0 - 192.168.255.255 [10:37] Addresses: 65,536 [10:38] but if i change mine then i gotta go off dhcp hey? [10:39] lemme find router book and see if that firewall will block all incoming [10:40] Kilos: they usually block incoming [10:41] good and if pc then still hits slow mode then its the pc not someone/thing trying to get in [10:41] is your router connected to the internet? [10:41] yes through 3g [10:47] whew there lotsa stuff in the routers firewall [10:48] i enabled block wan ping [10:49] and turned on intrusion detection [10:49] dunno what else to do but will see what happens here [10:57] hmm... [10:57] looks like something in pidgin or evolution slows the pc down [10:59] check your task manager [10:59] or in terminal use the command top [11:00] running top [11:01] opened pidgin again and all still fast [11:04] Kilos, 3G does that sometimes. ppp connection still up. but nothing goes through. Is that what you are experiencing, or is your entire desktop hanging? [11:05] i had the prob with an e220 but never before on my arab 3g [11:06] switching from workspace to workspace gets very slow but seems ok with evolution closed [11:07] and now the 3g is in the router not directly connected to pc [11:15] looks like its evolution causing it [11:15] all still fast with evo closed [11:15] hmm... [11:29] k. you could check if there are plugins in Evolution that you don't require, and disable them. that *might* help some. [11:30] ill try that ty zerlgi [11:31] just gonna run pc without evo for a while and see [11:56] hi sorry Kilos i am running around at work [11:56] but i see you already got help [11:57] need to go again bbl [12:07] hi wilsonmc [12:07] welcome to ubuntu-za [12:23] hi Kilos [12:24] nice to see a ZA Ubuntu grp [12:24] what do you guys chat about here? [12:25] we help peeps with linux probs [12:25] and normal chat thats friends do [12:26] do you use ubuntu wilsonmc ? [12:26] oh cool [12:26] yeah I do [12:26] this is the official ubuntu help channel in za [12:27] that's awesome. I'm glad I stumbled upon it [12:27] well this is the right place for help and if you one of the boffs you can hang here and help others too [12:27] oh you still new? [12:27] or just to here [12:28] hehe [12:28] lol not extremely new, but definitely not a boff yet. I guess I'm more of a power user [12:28] Like Stephen Fry said ;) [12:30] well welcome here and shout if you need help or just get to meet the guys [12:30] we have our monthly meeting next monday evening here [12:30] Thanks a lot! Will do [12:30] oh, is it an irc meeting? [12:31] where are you and what do you do? if i may ask [12:31] Im in CPT, CS student. U? [12:31] yip the ubuntu loco monthly meet [12:31] pta [12:31] was student 54 years ago [12:31] that's awesome! That way I could even attend! (If i'm allowed) [12:32] yes we welcome anyone [12:32] quite a few of the guys here are in ct [12:32] you can also join our mailing list [12:33] http://bit.ly/MCOujZ [12:33] WOW [12:33] So u r a super guru? [12:33] nope im a greeter bot [12:33] thanks, just joined it, signed up on the website too [12:34] cool [12:34] LMAO [12:34] hehe [12:34] greeter bot? High Tech [12:35] is everyone else bysy/distracted/asleep? [12:36] busy* [12:40] wilsonmc, hi. [12:40] I'm away attending to support calls. [12:44] hi zerlgi [12:44] ok, that's cool [12:45] * zerlgi waves, then gets back to phoning [12:45] :D [12:48] * zerlgi is back for a bit [12:48] wilsonmc sometimes it's pretty quiet in here, some days it's busy. [12:48] there are also a couple of other Linux'y IRC chatrooms [12:49] there is the Gauteng Linux User Group (GLUG) room: #glug.za on which you'd find quite a few of the same members as this room [12:49] and on a different network (atrum), is the Cape Linux Users Group chatroom #clug [12:50] what app are you using to connect to IRC?. Empathy or something like Xchat? [12:50] btw, wilsonmc. Software Freedom Day events 2 weeks time. [12:50] ... in case you hadn't heard. [12:51] sorry! having 3g probs today [12:56] * zerlgi going away again [12:58] sorry zerlgi, had the chat in a background window [12:58] im using weechat 0.4 [12:59] what about you? [12:59] ... xchat [12:59] on Linux Mint. [12:59] i hadn't heard about the softeare freedom day, checking out the website now [13:00] re weechat. Quite the power user then... [13:00] ;-P [13:01] the #clug folks are probably doing the CT stuff.. see #clug on autumn.cpt.za.atrum.org [13:01] * zerlgi goes away again === miles__ is now known as Kilos [13:02] re power user: lol i try [13:03] thanks 4 the info, i'll try and link up === zerlgi is now known as andrewlsd [13:09] hmm... === Kilos- is now known as Kilos [13:14] * Kilos checking if both pcs will disconnect [13:18] ohi Xethron forgot to greet you today [13:18] sorry [14:16] sigh [16:03] haai [16:04] * Vince-0 is making FIRE [16:07] hi Vince-0 you gonna braai [16:07] ribbetjies [16:07] lekker [16:09] wow we min again [16:55] hi psychicist charl [16:57] * inetpro getting hungry now [16:57] Vince-0: your fault! [16:58] ai daai ribbetjies klink so lekker [16:58] lo inetpro [16:58] goeiemore Kilos [16:58] hehe [16:59] oops, waar's ons nou? [16:59] iemand al weer die horlosie te vinnig gedraai [17:04] nee man jy skrik nou eers wakker van gisteraand [17:17] good evening [17:25] hi magespawn [17:25] hey i see we had some new faces [17:28] yeah [17:29] lets hope they arent one night stands [17:31] ah well, we take what we can get [17:31] just recieved my first spam from an outlook.com address [17:32] hit it with sugarplum [17:33] is in gmail, so flagged as spam, already [17:33] *received [17:34] ah [17:35] Kilos: sugarplum is not a spam filter, it's a honeypot of sorts [17:35] its supposed to attack back isnt it superfly [17:36] Kilos: it doesn't try to get rid of spam in your mailbox and it doesn't use your mailbox [17:36] yes, but by poisoning the spammer's lists [17:36] thats good [17:36] they cant keep getting away with the nonsense [17:38] does it work? [17:39] its like with thieves, in countries where they have a hand chopped off there are no thieves [17:39] orr at leasr ones that do not get caught [17:39] lol [17:39] or and least [17:40] superfly does it work? [17:42] magespawn: have you looked at gamil if there arent good mails marked as spam too [17:42] gmail [17:45] yes happens every now and then, but not often, and usually if does i correct then does not usually happen again [17:46] ah [17:46] http://www.infragistics.com/community/blogs/d-coding/archive/2013/08/21/developer-humor-technically-correct.aspx [17:50] hi Kilos, magespawn, superfly, inetpro [18:06] hi charl [18:14] this via linux foundation on g+ https://www.linux.com/learn/tutorials/734125-how-to-install-sparkleshare-your-open-source-dropbox-alternative-on-linux [18:14] sorry i can't seem to copy paste the short link from Maaz [18:18] but it looks like it breaks the t&c of the hosting site [18:25] yo not_found [18:26] uncle Kilos, how are you? [18:26] why not use ownCloud? [18:29] I do, at least on my own hardware. [18:30] http://playingwithpython.com/learning-gui-development-with-pyqt/ something from the python group on g+ [18:31] also add https://class.coursera.org/programming1-002/class/index for the python thingy... started on monday so still time to climb in and do it ;) [18:35] hey not_found [18:36] o/ magespawn [18:37] magespawn: OpenLP is written in PyQt [18:37] cool beans, i am still amazed by that program [18:51] just did aptitude purge evolution and used muon to remove anything evolution related [18:51] I am Maaz at home tonight [18:51] dunno what went wrong in there but i think thats been where all my probs been coming from last month or so [18:52] lol what you mean magespawn [18:52] coffee on [18:52] im sad. have used evo since i started with ubuntu [18:53] and kmail dont even try to work [18:53] * Kilos cries [18:53] uncle Kilos, you on KDE now? [18:54] yes have been on and off for months not_found [18:54] can always still use thundebird... [18:54] use 12.04 kde and unity and maverick to fix them [18:55] i didnt like thunderbird thats why i used evo in here [18:55] evo has a built in backup tool [18:55] but its almost like there was a virus in it now [18:56] linux can sometimes be its own virus >.< [18:56] modems show online but no net connection [18:56] then i opened evo now to check for mail and pc rebooted [18:57] and today with evo open pc kept going into slow mode [18:57] ouch [18:57] grrr [18:57] was even thinking i been hacked [19:01] i get to make the coffee Kilos [19:02] rofl [19:02] magespawn: coffee on [19:03] * magespawn starts grinding some beans [19:03] magespawn: coffee please [19:03] with rusks as well [19:04] There is already a pot on and it is all reserved [19:04] ai! [19:04] * inetpro goes to make his own [19:05] no need to grind more beans for me [19:05] Kilos: what is wrong with Thunderbird? [19:06] it didnt have the backup utility [19:06] will install and tell you what else [19:06] Thunderbird is cross platform, unlike most others [19:07] why need an extra backup utility? [19:07] just backup your home folder [19:08] it was lekker man remembered all the passwords and settings etc [19:08] what was lekker? [19:08] and i had a few mails that i kept with info [19:08] evo backup [19:08] so? [19:09] never mind [19:09] you can create subfolders in Thunderbird as many as you want [19:09] ive removed it all and will see if pc still messes around [19:09] thats all more thinking man [19:09] ai! [19:11] Evolution has IMHO always been a massive bloated blob of a mess [19:12] +1 [19:12] :p [19:12] * magespawn feels sorry for inetpro, two 'ai's' in one evening, ships him a cupa joe with Ouma rusks [19:12] * not_found going to go and walk to stay awake... stoopid night shifts [19:12] bbml [19:13] double espresso for not_found [19:13] magespawn: hmm... thanks [19:14] wbb going to maverick [19:14] * inetpro now gets to drink two cups all at once [19:16] evening [19:17] hey kbmonkey [19:19] wb kbmonkey [19:24] bet this would drive some sysadmins mad https://github.com/emvigo/apt-wishlist [19:25] from Debian discussion on g+ [19:29] wb kil [19:29] thanks inetpro, magespawn [19:29] wb Kilos [19:29] ty fellas [19:30] Kilos: is like a boomarang or a cold, tonight [19:30] or flip-flops [19:30] or a yoyo [19:31] im on maverick so i can sent mail to ian without my modem or pc crashing [19:32] it crashes when you send mail on other flavors? hectik! [19:32] i think evolution has a serious bug in it on 12.04 [19:32] Kilos: and when you use the gmail web interface? [19:33] only Kilos gets this sort of thing, he is a developers unicorn [19:34] should have a webcam watching his every move and click of the mouse and keyboard [19:34] hehe [19:35] i dont like going online to look at mails [19:35] eats data [19:36] mails eat data even when you send and receive with a local app [19:37] nope only new mail comes down [19:38] and when you send? [19:38] just opening gmail up there uses data before you do anything else [19:38] when i send i use only that one mails data [19:38] Kilos: I agree, but it get's cached [19:39] understand Kilos, that web interface fails to load sometimes on slow connections - not ideal [19:39] thats fine up there [19:39] I use mutt [19:39] oh yeah [19:40] kbmonkey: that may be a good solution for someone like Kilos [19:40] it is a nightmare to set up though [19:40] especially if you have to chain it through offlineimap [19:40] hmm... [19:41] Kilos, sometimes I use the mobile version of gmail on my pc, it does not load any fancy stuff and is much lighter ;) [19:41] m.gmail.com [19:41] just fyi [19:41] ty [19:41] * inetpro agrees with kbmonkey [19:42] that mobile interface can be real handy [19:42] a life saver some times! [19:43] ya but still i try not browse lots [19:44] so will give thunderbird another go with pop [19:44] then you only get new mails come down [19:48] mavewiiiick be kifffff [19:50] was very weird today, internet disconnected but both modems showed connected [19:50] but only with eveolution open [19:50] evo [19:50] if thats not a virus or been hacked i dunno [19:51] * Kilos waits for comments [19:52] could just be a software glich, does happen [19:53] on 2 different drives [19:53] and why affect the modem [19:55] just be careful on new thunderbird accounts - IIR you have to set it to only download the last n-days of mails, otherwise it grabs *everything* the first time. gulp. [19:56] ya thunderbird wasnt lekker [19:56]