[00:00] <vedrit> Can I not share extra drives, which are found in the /media directory?
[00:03] <Jordan_U> hakuga I have never used Foobar 2000, and haven't used Amarok much, but for a very customisable player Amarok is probably a good choice.
[00:05] <hakuga> ok thanks Jordan_U
[00:06] <paul_beginner> a lot of help pages tell me to install the ubuntu restricted extras from the softwarecenter. now when I start the install, ubuntu says I need to remove two items first. not so sure what to do now :S
[00:06] <vedrit> Ok, I was looking through the log for samba, and when I try and connect to the shared drive from my Windows machine, I see "param/loadparm.c:9114(process_usershare_file) process_usershare_file: stat of /var(Long directoy listing)/shared drive failed. Permission denied."
[00:07] <Jordan_U> paul_beginner: What two packages?
[00:07] <PoolShark_1> hi
[00:08] <basant> hello everyone. this is simply eating my brains. I can see a text file ( generated via my guest ubuntu in vbox on host win 7). It never even hiccups when I open the file and issue a print but if I try to set up an automated printing all hell breaks loose. Can someone help me get the automatic printing setup or pointers for it  esp how to include another folder in the win 7 spooler.
[00:10] <Guest61520> how do i turn on my wifi switch from the terminal???
[00:11] <vedrit> I think I see the problem with samba. It says it's the master browser for subnet 192.168.1.26, which is the local IP for the machine
[00:11] <paul_beginner> 1. Libav codec library
[00:11] <paul_beginner> libavcodec53
[00:11] <paul_beginner> 2. Libav utility library
[00:11] <paul_beginner> libavutil51
[00:11] <FloodBot1> paul_beginner: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:12] <Jordan_U> !rootirc | root__
[00:12] <wilee-nilee> paul_beginner, So what is your motivation for using aptitude?
[00:14] <paul_beginner> since its the first time I run ubuntu i read through some help2install pages and the suggested me to install the package.
[00:14] <paul_beginner> they
[00:15] <wilee-nilee> paul_beginner, As new user t I would not advise it, I have never used it in 6 years, lool closer at these sources and the dates, you are getting into an arae that will do nothing but cause a new user troubles, and an exsperienced user headaches.
[00:16] <paul_beginner> okay thanks :) then I just let it as it is
[00:16] <PoolShark_1> I'm having mdadm RAID UUID issues: http://pastebin.com/2EvxxULq ... seems the wrong UUID is being picked up from /dev/md0 for some reason
[00:17] <wilee-nilee> paul_beginner, AS far as the libavcodec53 I would make sure the restricted extras get installed that is all you basically need.
[00:18] <sifu_> why would rm -rf folderName not remove the folder but keep giving this error: cannot remove folder name is a directory?
[00:18] <wilee-nilee> paul_beginner, http://askubuntu.com/questions/153884/why-does-ubuntu-restricted-extras-want-to-remove-some-libav-packages
[00:18] <paul_beginner> ty
[00:19] <wilee-nilee> no problem it can be confusing. paul_beginner
[00:19] <wilee-nilee> !details | sifu_
[00:19] <paul_beginner> especially when you're used to windows simple stuff haha
[00:20] <wilee-nilee> ;)
[00:20] <pumafied> paul_beginner: "simple"
[00:20] <paul_beginner> going to bed now :) thanks for all the help. see you tomorrow I guess
[00:21] <vedrit> How do I install from a downloaded tar.gz?
[00:21] <reisio> vedrit: install what?
[00:21] <vedrit> I'm trying to install a teamspeak server
[00:22] <reisio> you can install teamspeak-server from software center
[00:22] <sifu_> wilee-nilee I tried removing a folder that has multiple subfolders that may or may not be empty, it is 12.04. The command I used is this: rm -rf folderName. The output i get is this: rm: cannot remove 'folderName/folder1': Is a directory
[00:22] <vedrit> Well, for curiousity's sake, how would I go about installing a downloaded tar.gz
[00:22] <PoolShark_1> sifu_: do you have the necessary permissions to delete folder1?
[00:22] <sifu_> i am root
[00:22] <sifu_> still same issue
[00:23] <reisio> vedrit: well, a tar.gz is a lot like a zip file
[00:23] <reisio> vedrit: 's'got stuff in it
[00:23] <reisio> vedrit: depends on what's inside how you'd install it
[00:23] <wilee-nilee> sifu_, What OS is this?
[00:23] <vedrit> Hmm....
[00:23] <sifu_> Ubuntu 12.04 64 bit.
[00:24] <wilee-nilee> sifu_, When you say I am root do you mean from the terminal?
[00:24] <sifu_> yes
[00:25] <wilee-nilee> sifu_, Cool, not sure why you would be removing stuff that way, are you sure you have a clue in this area. ;)
[00:25] <sifu_> yes
[00:25] <sifu_> was working just a while ago
[00:25] <h00k> vedrit: If it's something to compile, you can check notes at !compile, but it really depends on what is inside
[00:25] <cjopcjop>  /window log on
[00:25] <wilee-nilee> well as long as you think so, I'm not sure you do.
[00:25] <sifu_> just having a nightmare trying to setup the vagrant box with ubuntu
[00:25] <h00k> !compile | vedrit
[00:26] <vedrit> Anyway to know if it's already compiled?
[00:26] <unvrect> hi to all. How can I make a usb drive read-writable on a Live distro? I already tried with -o remount,rw
[00:27] <Jordan_U> sifu_: Does this happen with any directories or only one specific problematic directory?
[00:27] <sifu_> hmm have not tried on other directories
[00:28] <Jordan_U> unvrect: Please pastebin the contents of /proc/mounts and the output of "dmesg". Most likely the filesystem is damaged and needs to be fixed before it can be mounted rw.
[00:28] <sifu_> hmm
[00:28] <sifu_> okey
[00:28] <lgc> hi, how can I rescue my Windows partition without restoring my machine and blowing away my Ubuntu?
[00:29] <wilee-nilee> lgc, Can you give more details
[00:29] <Jordan_U> lgc: Why does your Windows partition need rescuing?
[00:30] <dr_willis> get windows working first tben worry about ubuntu
[00:30] <pumafied> Jordan_U: It always needs rescueing with linux (;
[00:30] <wilee-nilee> !fud | pumafied
[00:31] <lgc> wilee-nilee, Jordan_U, after I installed my Ubuntu it won't start. There's an entry on the grub menu (actually, the Windows partition appears to be on /dev/sda2(!!) and the recovery partition on /dev/sda1. The latter brings me to the machine recovery menu).)
[00:31] <pumafied> I dont think that really applies to what I said
[00:32] <wilee-nilee> pumafied, The two posts you have made have no support attached this is support, not opinions or chat.
[00:32] <dr_willis> lgc:  so if you boot sda1 what does it do?
[00:32] <sifu_> Jordan_U it was something to do with the vagrant mess up…logged in from vagrant and could delete it
[00:33] <sifu_> thanks anyway
[00:33] <pumafied> I suppose where is ubuntu chat I would have assumbed #ubuntu would be the chat
[00:33] <dr_willis> windows normakky has its own version of a biit partition and its main os partition
[00:33] <wilee-nilee> pumafied, #ubuntu-offtopic ;)
[00:33] <lgc> dr_willis: "Windows is loading files...". Starting Windows -> Gateway Recovery Management.
[00:33] <pumafied> Ah thanks
[00:34] <dr_willis> lcg so  sda1 is the gateway restore partion.
[00:34] <dr_willis> lcg sda2 is your c: drive?
[00:34] <lgc> dr_willis: It shouldn't, should it?
[00:35] <wilee-nilee> lgc, This a manufacturers install of windows and what release?
[00:35] <dr_willis> lgc:  if gateway made it that way.. yes
[00:35] <lgc> dr_willis: /dev/sda1 should be the normal Windows partition, I gather.
[00:35] <dr_willis> lgc not allways
[00:35] <lgc> It's Windows 7, wilee-nilee .
[00:36] <wilee-nilee> lgc, More tha likely th boot partition, that may be what dr_willis means
[00:36] <dr_willis> mount the partitions and look and see whats on them to find out
[00:36] <lgc> dr_willis: how so? I resized Windows, but I haven't moved it around.
[00:36] <damianos> How can I change the x11 cursor theme manually as in without any gui or desktop environment specific utility?
[00:37] <dr_willis> damianos:  i saw ways to do that on the arch lunux wiki pages last week. ;-)
[00:37] <lgc> dr_willis: I can't mount /dev/sda1
[00:37] <wilee-nilee> lgc, Have you moved the boot flag, also known as the active partition in windows?
[00:37] <lgc> wilee-nilee: not that I remember...
[00:37] <dr_willis> lgc  you may want to be asking about this in  #windows  also
[00:38] <quackers> evening peeps!
[00:38] <ismdeep__> e
[00:38] <damianos> pity that doesn't show up in google
[00:38] <lgc> dr_willis: Thanks, I'll do that if I don't get the help here, of course.
[00:39] <quackers> I was wondering if somebody could give me a terminal command that would confirm which of my graphics cards I am currently using?
[00:39] <wilee-nilee> lgc, I would run the bootrepair app, just the bootinfo summary and post the generated url here, it will give a lot more info. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[00:39] <dr_willis> damianos:  i found it via google i recall
[00:39] <vedrit> Alright, so it turns out the Teamspeak server just needed to be extracted, but when I execute one of the included .sh files, it says the included executable is not executable. Anyone familiar with TS3 servers?
[00:39] <wilee-nilee> quackers, What up homey. ;)
[00:39] <quackers> wilee-nilee, how are you?
[00:39] <wilee-nilee> good
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[00:40] <quackers> excellent
[00:40] <dr_willis> vedrit:  so make it executable.
[00:40] <vedrit> Oh, right, haha
[00:40] <quackers> wilee-nilee, I'm unsure which graphics card Ubuntu is using - it's on a macbook pro retina
[00:40] <dr_willis> !permissions
[00:40] <vedrit> Except... it won't let me
[00:40] <damianos> ok well we all know by now that what google serves up to you in a search will be different than what they show me. Anything I've found always points to ~/.Xdefaults. I'd like to do it globally and make it the default for my desktop environment
[00:40] <wilee-nilee> quackers, You have ubuntu installed?
[00:40] <lgc> wilee-nilee: Thanks, let me take a look at it!
[00:41] <quackers> yes boss
[00:41] <wilee-nilee> quackers, Lok with lspci
[00:41] <wilee-nilee> look
[00:41] <quackers> wilee-nilee, lspci lists the nVidia card but I don't think the system is using that one - need to confirm
[00:41] <dr_willis> damianos: arch linux wiki covered that i recall. i just stumbled upon it for another guy
[00:42] <damianos> k, I'll go look again
[00:42] <damianos> thanks
[00:42] <wilee-nilee> lgc, The bootinfo summary is all you should run to begin with we can see whats up without a ton of questions just post the generated url.
[00:42] <wilee-nilee> quackers, Is that a dual graphic card thing, I'm not really up on graphic drivers.
[00:42] <quackers> wilee-nilee, yes, neither am I :-)
[00:43] <dr_willis> apples have optimus? not noticed  that befor
[00:44] <wilee-nilee> quackers, If your looking for real abuse use the mac channel, and mention ubuntu. ;)
[00:44] <quackers> wilee-nilee, I'll pass on that, thanks :-)
[00:44] <wilee-nilee> I don't think apple uses optimus just wondered is all
[00:45] <quackers> no, not optimus, just an onboard card and a nvidia GT650m
[00:45] <quackers> it's a retina macbbok pro
[00:48] <wilee-nilee> quackers, nice to see you, time for din din here, gotta hit the Thai food cart close by.
[00:48] <quackers> wilee-nilee, ok, have fun! Nice to be back here!
[00:53] <lgc> wilee-nilee: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6008538/
[00:53] <vedrit> I can't seem to force the executable to be executable by anything
[00:54] <Extreminador> hi guys
[00:55] <reisio> hi Extreminador
[00:55] <Extreminador> how can i open the options menu in firefox ?
[00:56] <quackers> Extreminador, what exactly do you want to change?
[00:56] <Extreminador> i would like to open the last pages i was on vefore turn off firefox
[00:57] <Extreminador> like is i have 3 sites open last time... when i open next i wuld like to open them again
[00:57] <edgesaurus> im sorry dave
[00:57] <quackers> Extreminador, have a look in the history tab - there's an option I think to re-open the last windows
[00:57] <vedrit> dr_willis: I have user ownership over the files and folders, but when I enter in the commands to add execute permission, it doesn't seem to stick
[00:58] <SikZwei> Hi, I have Anthy installed but I seem unable to use it, pressing Ctrl+Space does nothing, and trying to switch through the menu doesn't work either. At some point I got it to switch, but Anthy got stuck and ate 100% CPU time. I think it broke after a recent update. Can somebody help me? This is important, I talk to Japanese people on a daily basis.
[00:59] <Extreminador> quackers let me check
[00:59] <trism> SikZwei: does it work in say, gedit? when you mentioned this the other day I noticed I can't get mozc to work in gnome-terminal anymore (and it was working a while ago), but it still works in gedit
[01:00] <quackers> Extreminador, if you close FF then re-open it and then look in the history tab you'll see the option iirc
[01:00] <SikZwei> trism: let me check, I think gedit may have been how it locked up
[01:00] <SikZwei> trism: nope, not anymore either
[01:00] <histo> Extreminador: ctrl+h
[01:00] <SikZwei> But now I can't even get it to switch to Anthy and lock up like I did yesterday, so :/
[01:01] <Extreminador> ahhh i see what you mean
[01:01] <Extreminador> it will not open automaticaly...
[01:01] <Extreminador> but ok it's a good tip yehh
[01:01] <SikZwei> Also I saw a bug report regarding a similar issue from like a week ago or so, I can't seem to find the link again though x_x I think it may be the same issue though.
[01:01] <Extreminador> it was not this what i was looking for but... guess it will have to do for now
[01:02] <lgc> wilee-nilee: what gives?
[01:02] <SikZwei> Does anybody else have any clues on the Anthy issue?
[01:03] <vedrit> Even when I try to add execute permissions as Root, it doesn't seem to make any difference. I still can't execute the file
[01:03] <SikZwei> ...disregard what I said, Anthy is eating up all CPU time again and I haven't even switched to it yet -_-'
[01:04] <histo> vedrit: what file and what are you trying to do?
[01:04] <histo> !bug | SikZwei
[01:04] <vedrit> histo: ts3server_linux_amd64, I'm trying to get my TS3 server going
[01:04] <SikZwei> histo: 1) there's already a bug report it seems, 2) I want something to fix it now (even if that means somehow reverting it to its previous state)
[01:04] <histo> vedrit: chmod u+x whatever
[01:05] <histo> SikZwei: perhaps read the bug report for a possible solution.
[01:05] <SikZwei> It had no replies :/
[01:05] <vedrit> tried it. When I checked with ls -l, it still listed as not being executable
[01:06] <histo> SikZwei: the programs website perhaps? or askubuntu.com
[01:09] <dr_willis> the file is not on a vfat or ntfs filesystem is it  vedrit ?
[01:09] <vedrit> Oooh....it's on a NTFS drive
[01:09] <dr_willis> vedrit:  bingo.....
[01:09] <vedrit> drat...
[01:10] <dr_willis> you can make EVERY file on a ntfs executable
[01:10] <dr_willis> but thats even more annoying
[01:11] <dr_willis> executable jpgs and gifs and txt and zip.... :'(
[01:11] <vedrit> But they won't take the executable permission
[01:11] <dr_willis> you CANT chown ir chmod  on ntgs or vfat
[01:12] <dr_willis> you must mount them with the right options
[01:12] <SikZwei> *sigh* Just used ubuntu-bug and hoping it gets fixed quickly >.>' Will try again later
[01:12] <vedrit> Oh, I see
[01:12] <dr_willis> to do it
[01:12] <dr_willis> !ntfs-3g
[01:12] <dr_willis> the ntfs-3g  docs and faq detail this
[01:13] <dr_willis> put the files on a ext2/3/4  is easier
[01:14] <vedrit> yeah, that's what I did. Far simpler
[01:18] <yuanqihua> hello
[01:20] <yuanqihua> why no one speak
[01:20] <reisio> yuanqihua: hi :)
[01:21] <reisio> I was just starring in a major motion picture, is why I wasn't speaking :)
[01:23] <wilee-nilee> lgc, Looks to me like your windows OS has been overwritten, is it still there from ubuntu?
[01:25] <dr_willis> Oh noes.  that would be.. annoying.
[01:25] <wilee-nilee> lgc, You are definitely missing this /Windows/System32/winload.exe
[01:25] <dr_willis> normal windows installs these days got a boot partion, a rescue partion, a rescue data partion, then the actual windows os partion dont they?
[01:26] <dr_willis> they like to use 4 primaries to annoy us linux users ;(
[01:26] <wilee-nilee> yeah
[01:26] <dr_willis> #1 thing to do on a new windows install is make a dvd-restore disk set.  but its sad how often thats not mentioned to the end user.
[01:27] <wilee-nilee> I clone then back up the clone on all installs
[01:28] <dr_willis> i buy a  ssd to put in the box for linux. and lock the windows hd away under armed guard.. in case it tries to escape. ;)
[01:28] <wilee-nilee> I hate asking for hep
[01:28] <dr_willis> last laptop i got.. suprused me.. it had a 2nd hd slot. :) so the ssd was a added bonus
[01:29] <xibalba> if i use LVM, can I add a second disk to my system and expand my root partition onto that 2nd disk?
[01:29] <xibalba> say i have a 10GB / partition, I need 20GB more space.
[01:30] <xibalba> bringing the total of / to 30GB
[01:30] <dr_willis> !lvm
[01:30] <dr_willis> I see so many people have issues with LVM and raid. i avoid  them ;)
[01:30] <xibalba> dr_willis, thanks for the link. but is LVM what i'm looking for to accomplish this?
[01:31] <xibalba> well definetly not going raid, thinking for a virtual machine
[01:31] <xibalba> what i'm trying to figure out is if i give one of my users a ubuntu 16GB template and they run out of space
[01:31] <xibalba> i want to be able to use the vmware guest os customization tools to call the 'pre-init' section
[01:31] <xibalba> and maybe throw some LVM commands in there to expand the disk
[01:31] <dr_willis> i thought lvm and raid went together like peanut butter and  Jalapeno Jelly. the work best when together.
[01:31] <xibalba> as opposed to using fdisk to resize the partition
[01:32] <xibalba> definetly dont want to use raid on a guestOS(VM)
[01:32] <dr_willis> you can always move some of the directories off of / and onto a 2nd partition
[01:32] <xibalba> right, i have to operate under the assumption my users are stupid
[01:32] <dr_willis> a VM may have options to just resize the hd.
[01:32] <xibalba> they're developers not sysadmins
[01:32] <xibalba> it does, i can resize disk #1 to be a larger disk
[01:32] <xibalba> however that will require modifying the partition table
[01:32] <xibalba> trying to make it as automated as possible
[01:33] <xibalba> so i'm wondering if i should try and use fdisk/growfs, or LVM
[01:33] <xibalba> personally i've always strayed away from LVM
[01:33] <dr_willis> I think ive seen some vm's that do it from outside the vm. so it does it all for you. but i really dont use the stuff that much either
[01:33] <xibalba> since i'm a sysadmin i've never needed it
[01:33] <UnderSampled> in the firewall settings, my rules are showing up red
[01:33] <UnderSampled> does that mean they're working, or not?
[01:33] <xibalba> UnderSampled, use nmap to test
[01:33] <UnderSampled> if not, why and how do I fix it?
[01:33] <UnderSampled> nmap doesn't show it open
[01:33] <dr_willis> why make the hd so tiny in the first place? most vms use dynamic allocation. and the hd image file is only as big on the disk as it needs to be..
[01:33] <xibalba> dr_willis, yea vmware wont use it
[01:34] <xibalba> right, thin provisioning. except i'm charging for the space utilization
[01:34] <dr_willis> i only use vbox. ;)
[01:34] <xibalba> of total allocated not used
[01:34] <xibalba> vbox is OK, but not enterprise grade
[01:34] <dr_willis> got a real job to do. bbl.
[01:34] <xibalba> later
[01:34] <UnderSampled> xibalba: it seems to be not open. any Ideas on what to look at to diagnose?
[01:34] <lgc> wilee-nilee: Hmmm...
[01:35] <xibalba> no sorry i dont use host based firewalls
[01:35] <lgc> What's the cure, wilee-nilee?
[01:36] <explodes> My computer at foo.com is on the same network as, call it, bar.com, but bar.com doesn't have public ssh access whereas foo.com does.
[01:36] <wilee-nilee> lgc, If you are missing the windows install you will have to reload a backup/image/clone or reinstall, is sda1 the recovery partition? It is hard to tell from here what has actually happened, without some info from you.
[01:37] <explodes> I ssh'd into foo.com and did ssh -f admin@bar.com -L 9000:bar.com:80 -N, and on my local, I did ssh -f admin@foo.com -L 9000:foo.com:9000 -N
[01:37] <explodes> I was sure to do: sudo ufw allow 9000/tcp
[01:38] <explodes> Now, if I open my browser and go to localhost:9000 I should get bar.com:80, right?
[01:39] <explodes> I dont, instead I get 2 or 3 lines "connection refused" in the terminal I started the tunnel in
[01:39] <lgc> wilee-nilee: what info do you need?
[01:41] <wilee-nilee> lgc, I think you may be better in ##windows, however if you can't mount sda1, and seem to not know what it actually is we are sort of stuck. I can see you are missing some key files just to boot, but it looks to me like your missing the whole OS, you might get another opinion.
[01:42] <wilee-nilee> lgc, Did you try to access sda1 from ubuntu?
[01:42] <lgc> wilee-nilee: Yep.
[01:43] <wilee-nilee> lgc, And it wont mount?
[01:43] <xibalba> i hot added a disk to my system
[01:43] <xibalba> but it's not showing /dev/sdb
[01:43] <xibalba> do i need to some how init a rescan of /dev/ ?
[01:43] <histo> explodes: http://sshmenu.sourceforge.net/articles/transparent-mulithop.html
[01:43] <lgc> wilee-nilee: It has this strange "PQSERVICE" Label, according to Gparted.
[01:44] <wilee-nilee> lgc, How many gigs is it?
[01:44] <xibalba> is there a -server ubuntu channel?
[01:44] <wilee-nilee> xibalba, #ubuntu-server
[01:44] <RooQ> Hey guys, anyone know of a good ide enviroment for c++
[01:44] <xibalba> excellent
[01:44] <lgc> 32, wilee-nilee.
[01:44] <wilee-nilee> lgc, YOu mentioned resizing windows was it sda1 and did you do it with gparted?
[01:45] <lgc> Yes.
[01:45] <wilee-nilee> lgc, Ah, bad idea, windows has its own partitioner, I think you have broken it, you might ask in ##windows for any chances of recovery.
[01:46] <lgc> wilee-nilee: Hmmm...
[01:46] <dr_willis> i also find windows much much faster at resizeing its own ntfs then gparted is.
[01:46] <lgc> Isn't gparted up to the task?
[01:46] <lgc> In fact, dr_willis. It took forever.
[01:47] <wilee-nilee> lgc, basically windows has unmovable files that gparted is glad to move, it knows no better, gparted can be used but with some pre-requisites
[01:47] <dr_willis> if you resized sda1, and shrunk it.. then you had space btween sda1 and sda2.. it may  be sda5 or sda6
[01:47] <dr_willis> it all depends on whaat you had to begin with.
[01:47] <lgc> Theres's in fact a 2 MB space between sda2 and sda3, dr_willis
[01:47] <wilee-nilee> dr_willis, Only 4 primaries two ntfs and a ext4 and swap there.
[01:47] <histo> explodes: http://earthwithsun.com/questions/315523/ssh-connection-between-two-behind-nat-computers-through-third-public-ip-computer
[01:47] <dr_willis> a space is common these days to align sectors or somthing
[01:49] <explodes> hmm
[01:50] <wilee-nilee> lgc, Did you transfer the main C partition to another partition the sda1, sda2 is th e boot and the sda1 is labeled as a recovery
[01:51] <lgc> wilee-nilee: I'm afraid I don't quite get your question.
[01:53] <wilee-nilee> lgc, The set up is unusual, generally sda1 would be a boot partition, and sda2 the os and a recovery partition and a firmware partition on a manufacturers install. The sda1 is labeled as the recovery in the script, it just seems out of order and mislabeled. Is this a clone, was it a oem, what is the history here?
[01:54] <lgc> No, wilee-nilee. It's an original install.
[01:54] <wilee-nilee> even a straight disc install would make sda1 the boot partition
[01:54] <wilee-nilee> lgc, Installed by who?
[01:54] <explodes> histo: Close, I am using different topologies
[01:55] <histo> explodes: the second link I sent you seems to be what you described to me. -R is what you are missing on one end most likely
[01:55] <wilee-nilee> lgc, Never the less I think your in recovery mode at best here if at all possible I doubt that can be fixed to work.
[01:55] <explodes> k
[01:56] <wilee-nilee> that's just a personal opinion though
[01:56] <lgc> wilee-nilee: OK.
[01:56] <Extreminador> guys can i follow this tuturial --> http://linuxg.net/how-to-install-enlightenment-17-e17-on-ubuntu-13-04/ <-- to install the Enlightenment desktop enviroment ?
[01:57] <wilee-nilee> Extreminador, e17 is in the repos.
[01:57] <lgc> Thanks a lot, wilee-nilee, dr_willis.
[01:58] <Extreminador> wilee-nilee sow i can i install it... ?
[01:58] <wilee-nilee> Extreminador, Might be a newer version in a PPA, however PPA's are technically not supported here.
[01:58] <Extreminador> ups *"how can i"
[01:58] <gnerd> anybody use chubuntu? know a good list of apps that work on ARM?
[01:58] <explodes> channel 4: open failed: connect failed: Connection refused
[01:59] <wilee-nilee> Extreminador, sudo apt-get install e17
[01:59] <lgc> By the way, wilee-nilee, If I restore with the Gateway partition, will I get a functional Windows without the need of an install disk?
[01:59] <wilee-nilee> lgc, Not sure what a gateway partition is
[01:59] <histo> !derivative | gnerd
[01:59] <histo> !derivatives | gnerd
[01:59] <lgc> wilee-nilee: the recovery partition.
[02:00] <Extreminador> ahh the pat-get let me check the command
[02:00] <wilee-nilee> lgc, And where is that?
[02:00] <lgc> It's sda2, wilee-nilee
[02:01] <lgc> sda1, I mean, wilee-nilee .
[02:01] <wilee-nilee> lgc, THat looks like a boot partition, if it is the recovery that is the job to recover.
[02:01] <wilee-nilee> lgc, sda1 is 30 gigs is this a backup?
[02:02] <Extreminador> and how can i get the list of the things that the repository has and how to know what word to use to install it ?
[02:02] <lgc> wilee-nilee: That's the first strange thing. Grub reports it as a Windows recovery partition and /de/sda2 as a Windows boot partition.
[02:03] <wilee-nilee> lgc, I would wonder why it is not mountable in ubuntu does it have and red flags on it in gparted
[02:04] <lgc> Let me check, wilee-nilee ...
[02:04] <wilee-nilee> lgc, Was this ever a working W7 setup?
[02:04] <w30> Extreminador, check enlightenment.org for a ppa of the latest version of E
[02:04] <lgc> wilee-nilee: you bet!
[02:04] <leeping> Hi there - I'd like to change the mount point of my /home directory.  How do I do this without "losing track" of the existing /home directory?
[02:05] <lgc> wilee-nilee: I don't see any red flags on Gparted's report.
[02:05] <reisio> leeping: change it how?
[02:06] <leeping> reisio, I think I know what to do .. I'll mount the partition to /media/home and move everything into there.
[02:06] <histo> Extreminador: apt-cache search searchterm
[02:06] <reisio> leeping: eh? :)
[02:07] <leeping> reisio, I just bought a large hard drive.  At the same time, my home directory filled up so I am thinking of moving the whole thing over to the large hard drive.
[02:07] <wilee-nilee> lgc, basically this is a windows issue, I use windows but i'm no expert, I think yoiu need to get help in ##windows
[02:07] <histo> leeping: with usermod you can specify a new home and move your files all with one command
[02:07] <Extreminador> histo thanks will try to remember
[02:07] <leeping> histo, I'd still like for the home directory to be /home/$USER
[02:07] <leeping> so I might just change the mount points around
[02:08] <reisio> leeping: ah, fancy
[02:08] <lgc> wilee-nilee: OK.
[02:08] <histo> leeping: what?
[02:08] <reisio> leeping: what you do us umount it, copy the data to the new drive (mounted elsewhere), then change fstab
[02:08] <leeping> histo, from looking at the usermod option, it looks like it can change $HOME to a different path, such as /media/home/$USER or something.
[02:08] <lgc> wilee-nilee: I hope I don't get flames on #windows for installing Ubuntu. :) .
[02:08] <histo> leeping: well then just cp your files out of /home/$user to the mount then umount and mount it to /home/$user
[02:09] <leeping> reisio, that's what I'm planning on doing. :)
[02:09] <reisio> leeping: use rsync for the copying :p
[02:09] <histo> leeping: yes
[02:09] <wilee-nilee> lgc, should not.
[02:09] <maxiPad3gs> 13.04 desktop on thinkpad x220. I pulled up "about this computer" and noticed that my graphics card is Intel sandybridge x86/MMX/SSE2. I dont think i installed the right Kernel but it might have fixed its self with sudo apt-get update && "upgrade". but i also noticed that under OS type: it says 32-bit. when installing generic kernel of ubuntu. what does the 32 64 or 86 mean. and is my pc 32 or 86 ?
[02:09] <leeping> reisio, that's what i'm doing :)
[02:09] <hmamouchi> hey
[02:10] <darkangel> Just a question of guessing what would be a good Ubuntu Version for amazing gaming what 1 would Improve gaming proformance ? plz guess somethin for me to look up to
[02:10] <lgc> We'll see about that, wilee-nilee. In any case, I was hoping not having to reinstall Ubuntu.
[02:10] <reisio> leeping: do eeet
[02:10] <wilee-nilee> lgc, I think it is windows that will need a reinstall.
[02:11] <hmamouchi> please help me
[02:11] <maxiPad3gs> !patience hmamouchi
[02:11] <psy^> darkangel: you want something pretty light on resources for max gaming performance. something like 'Mint Mate' might be what you're after
[02:11] <lgc> wilee-nilee: but that will entail wiping my linux, won't it. At least so it was back in the old days.
[02:11] <wilee-nilee> hmamouchi, I don't see any issues posted.
[02:12] <wilee-nilee> lgc, No, you just make a ntfs and manually install.
[02:12] <wilee-nilee> lgc, A oem might want to use the whole drive, but the ones I have had had a manual option.
[02:12] <darkangel> i did try Mint Mate not that good for me i'm gonna stay with Ubuntu cuzz its about the same performace and every thing between ubuntu 13.04 and Mint 15
[02:12] <lgc> wilee-nilee: I see...
[02:12] <darkangel> thats me though
[02:13] <Extreminador> thanks for all guys but it's late
[02:13] <Extreminador> see you
[02:13] <hmamouchi> I need help add language on the keyboard
[02:13] <wilee-nilee> hmamouchi, What is your native language?
[02:13] <xmetal> hmm @ dpkg compaining about tarball issues
[02:13] <darkangel> 14.04 LTS may be alot better =) cant w8
[02:13] <hmamouchi> arabic
[02:13] <darkangel> till it comes out
[02:13] <hmamouchi> i have lexel
[02:14] <wilee-nilee> hmamouchi, YOu need to outline in detail what you want to do.
[02:15] <hmamouchi> I want to write
[02:15] <maxiPad3gs> hmamouchi: system settings / language support. it should be there. if not you need to run from command line.. sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade and your language packages will be addes then i think
[02:15] <darkangel> Im also alot better with Ubuntu then Mint by a Ton and good at Fixing Ubuntu Bugs some times
[02:15] <lgc> So, wilee-nilee, just to have it clear, If the Windows installer sees an NTFS partition in /dev/sda1 it will be content with it?
[02:15] <hmamouchi> ok wait test
[02:16] <wilee-nilee> lgc, Do you have a windows install dvd/usb?
[02:16] <lgc> wilee-nilee: I regret I don't.
[02:16] <darkangel> mmm hmm who uses windows any more lolz Jokes
[02:16] <wilee-nilee> lgc, Then how are you intending to install?
[02:17] <dr_willis> i thought your system was booting to the windows recovery mode of your pc maker
[02:17] <lgc> wilee-nilee: Dowload it from somewhere or getting it from someone.
[02:17] <darkangel> lgc: what Linux ya usin?
[02:18] <lgc> darkangel: 12.04.
[02:18] <wilee-nilee> !ot | darkangel all your posts
[02:19] <dr_willis> lgc:  i thought you had a grub entry that booted a windows-restore mode/oem maker restore disk. did it not do that?
[02:19] <darkangel> oooookkkk????
[02:19] <b_> why were the screensavers removed in 12.04LTS?
[02:19] <b_> anyone?
[02:19] <lgc> wilee-nilee: OEMS used to ship Windows install disks with new equipment. But not anymore.
[02:19] <darkangel> welll See ya guys any way ima go now
[02:19] <dr_willis> b_:  the gnome devs basically killed off gnome-sreensavers
[02:19] <lucidium> what's the best way to set up oss compatibility in 13.04? aoss seems somewhat slow
[02:19] <dr_willis> b_:  theres till the x screensavr package
[02:20] <b_> thx dr was curious  =/
[02:20] <wilee-nilee> lucidium, oss compatibility?
[02:20] <b_> yeah i installed. very nice
[02:20] <dr_willis> b_:  there was never really any configs to evven config the scrrnsavers that were there.. and they were rather poor. :)
[02:20] <lucidium> wilee-nilee, yes, the precursor to ALSA?
[02:20] <dr_willis> screensavers = so 1990's
[02:20] <lgc> dr_willis: Yes. But I haven't proceeded because it would format the whole disk.
[02:20] <wilee-nilee> just curious waht that was
[02:20] <b_> lol
[02:21] <b_> <-------est. 1977
[02:21] <b_> miss the 90's
[02:21] <dr_willis> lgc:  a reinstall will erase everything. so backup what you can find that you want to save
[02:21] <b_> >=]
[02:21] <hmamouchi> I use this and actuation, but when you do restart disappear language
[02:21] <hmamouchi> setxkbmap -option grp:switch,grp:alt_shift_toggle,grp_led:scroll fr,ar
[02:21] <dr_willis> flying toasters for everyone ;)
[02:22] <maxiPad3gs> if i pull up my "about this computer" and it says under OS type = 32-bit then have i installed the 32 bit distro or is it telling me that my pc is set up for 32 bit OS?
[02:22] <lgc> dr_willis: That's the fuss I was trying to spare myself from.
[02:23] <wilee-nilee> maxiPad3gs,  OS type = 32-bit, seems obvious.
[02:23] <xmetal> lol @ i put that fake BSOD SS on a few PC's ... freaked some newbies out
[02:23] <maxiPad3gs> wilee-nilee: the reason i ask is because i installed the 64 bit distro
[02:24] <hmamouchi> I use this and actuation, but when you do restart disappear language
[02:24] <hmamouchi> <hmamouchi> setxkbmap -option grp:switch,grp:alt_shift_toggle,grp_led:scroll fr,ar
[02:24] <b_> so while im at it, my box is an alienware 14x r2 i7  battery running ubuntu 12.05LTS is poor.  just a linux thing?
[02:24] <b_> any suggestions?
[02:24] <xmetal> half tired i even fooled myself with that .. ."oh geez a BSOD? .. how the heck... .oh yes .. a screensaver"
[02:24] <wilee-nilee> maxiPad3gs, Are you sure, not on a 32 bit computer?
[02:24] <wilee-nilee> can't say it is a 32 bit computer though
[02:24] <maxiPad3gs> wilee-nilee: thats what i was wondering? does it mean my thinkpad x220 is 32 bit system or did i install the 32 bit distro?
[02:25] <wilee-nilee> maxiPad3gs, only you know what you installed, looks here like a 32 bit release.
[02:25] <b_> 12.04*
[02:25] <w30> maxiPad3gs, your processor is 32 bit, 64 bit, or x86_64 (both). That is what you mean by a 32 or 64 bit system
[02:26] <wilee-nilee> any 64 bit is both
[02:26] <maxiPad3gs> let me post a screen shot of what i am looking at wait one
[02:27] <w30> Itanium is 64 bit
[02:27] <xmetal> if the "about" (whatever) says its 32bit i'd say at least the OS is 32bit
[02:27] <w30> big iron is 64bit
[02:27] <xmetal> (sounds obvious to me)
[02:27] <maxiPad3gs> http://imagebin.org/268241 screenshot thinkpad x220 13.04 desktop
[02:28] <hmamouchi> المرجوا مساعدة عندما اعمل  setxkbmap -option grp:switch,grp:alt_shift_toggle,grp_led:scroll fr,ar استطيع كتابة بالعربية لكن عند قيام باعادة تشغيل الجهاز تختفي لغة
[02:29] <w30> maxiPad3gs, a processor runs 32 or 64 bit instructions, hence the name
[02:29] <hmamouchi> (gedit:2334): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_device_grab_add: assertion `GDK_IS_DEVICE (device)' failed
[02:29] <wolter> Does anybody have an nVidia 8600M GT? I can't run steam or wine because of X problems with it (xrandr)
[02:29] <maxiPad3gs> w30: please break it down for me to like first grader terms man i am confused
[02:29] <xmetal> lol
[02:30] <abaddon_> Hey guys, OK, I'm trying to create a shell script that does some copying and removing files. I can't seem to get it to work out. Would someone please check what's wrong with my script.
[02:30] <bigbadben> I want to run a command via ssh that might take some time to complete what is the easiest way to make sure that command runs even after the ssh timesout fdfd
[02:31] <maxiPad3gs> anyway my os is running fine except for Conky interrupting my usb 3.0 to USB 2.0 speeds or womething is doing that. thats the only glitch in my OS right now so whatever is going on its working fine
[02:31] <abaddon_> !pastebin
[02:31] <b_> maxi just run 32bit
[02:32] <abaddon_> Here is my script
[02:32] <abaddon_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6008758/
[02:32] <maxiPad3gs> b_: so when saucy salamnder comes out i should install clean the 32 bit version ?
[02:32] <xmetal> lol @ the code names for some of these distros
[02:35] <wolter> abaddon_: you might get much better help at #bash, the guys there are really scripting masters
[02:35] <hustler> lol
[02:35] <b_> just my opinion but why play with resources if you are unsure, depending on your hardware.. 32 just to be safe? jmo
[02:35] <abaddon_> wolter, ahhh, ok
[02:35] <dr_willis> i always use 64bit on all 64bit hardware. i cant recall the last time i had an issue that i could blame on 64bitness of my os.
[02:36] <maxiPad3gs> b_: o kthanks for input
[02:36] <w30> maxiPad3gs, you have a processor that can run 32 bit instrunctions or one that can run either (if you had Itanium or Rise you would know so). If you have a x86_64 processor you can choose a 64bit or 32 bit operating system (32 bit or 64 bit instructions)
[02:36] <wolter> dr_willis: the only issue I have is a printer driver :/ I have to run virtualbox just for that
[02:37] <dr_willis> wolter:  i really have to wonder at a printer company that cant handle  making a 64bit driver for their hardware
[02:37] <wolter> yeah, cannon
[02:37]  * dr_willis wonders part of a driver really cares if its 64bit or 32..
[02:37] <Trytin> I rape rabbits
[02:37] <maxiPad3gs> w30: i thought my processor was pretty up to date...
[02:37] <Darkangel> Any 1 Need Help with there Linux OS?
[02:37] <dr_willis> and as for canon... well... they are best avoided.. i dont touch them any more ;)
[02:37] <wilee-nilee> !ops | Trytin
[02:37] <w30> maxiPad3gs, What is it?
[02:38] <xmetal> oh geez
[02:38] <maxiPad3gs> w30: click my screen shot please on earlier post
[02:38] <Trytin> !ops
[02:40] <w30> maxiPad3gs, ok, see it. You have a x86_64 type processor. you have installed a 32 bit operating system on your box.
[02:40] <rr_> Having trouble with a courrupt filesystem using ubuntu 12.04 LTS.  System powered down unexpectedly and hasn't rebooted since.  Tried using fsck which seems to have made it worse.  Anyone have any ideas to help?
[02:40] <b_> lol Trytin
[02:40] <wilee-nilee> rr_, NO backups or a clone?
[02:41] <wolter> dr_willis: yeah I wonder the same, and I only wish I have had chance to choose the printer
[02:41] <w30> maxiPad3gs, How much memory does you machine have installed in it?
[02:41] <wolter> lol big deal
[02:41] <rr_> nope, wilee-nilee
[02:41] <xmetal> hmm i should make some drive images soon
[02:41] <maxiPad3gs> w30: damn. should have done a hash sum on my distro or i was stoned when i installed. wow. now what .. ? just wait for saucy to drop and install the 64 bit clean? probly what i am gonna do anyway so...
[02:41] <xmetal> of all my OS's
[02:42] <Darkangel> rr_: does ur Monitor turn off when u turn it on act's like its startin up but its not?
[02:42] <wilee-nilee> rr_, Is it mountable from a live cd, and how did you fsck it>
[02:42] <rr_> No it goes to the GRUB menu - when I select linux - it gives an error that the kernal can't be loaded.
[02:43] <wilee-nilee> rr_, How did you fsck it?
[02:43] <rr_> It was mountable for a time from a live CD - after running the fsck for 20 hours, it's not.  I used "sudo fsck -t ext4" and gave the partition name, and the option to automatically correct errors - did this while running off the install cd
[02:44] <Darkangel> ya i had that prob b4 and the only way i fixed it that i started fresh... u do have a BackUp of ur Data right?
[02:44] <dr_willis> maxiPad3gs: 32 or 64 doesn't mattar a lot to most people
[02:44] <maxiPad3gs> dr_willis: cool
[02:44] <maxiPad3gs> my thinkpad doet seem to mind wither
[02:44] <wilee-nilee> rr_, with it mounted?
[02:44] <sigtest2> hello
[02:44] <dr_willis> 20 hr fsck.. sounds like hard disk failing
[02:45] <sigtest> hello
[02:45] <w30> maxiPad3gs, the big advantage is the ability to use more than 3gig of memory in a 64 bit system. Not many apps are optimized for 64 bit yet. (written yes but not really optimized)
[02:45] <wilee-nilee> rr_, The live cd has a smart check in disks
[02:45] <rr_> no made sure it wasn't mounted when I ran FSCK.  it was correcting a a lot of errors in pass 1, then ran pass 2 corrected a lot more errors, and went back to pass one.  Its a fairly new 2TB drive that's never given me a problem before.
[02:45] <rr_> and yeah, no backup....
[02:47] <fatNERD> after the freaking update, my display is all messed up.
[02:47] <fatNERD> ubuntu sucks for real
[02:47] <w30> maxiPad3gs, I see you have 7.8 GiB memory, To use all that install the 64 bit version.
[02:48] <lizzie_> hrmmmm
[02:48] <Darkangel> what Update it give
[02:48] <Darkangel> whats the problem buddy
[02:48] <dr_willis> ! pae
[02:48] <dr_willis> pae kernel can yse it all
[02:49] <rr_> how do i try using the smart check utility?
[02:49] <wilee-nilee> rr_, So not mountable and the fscks made it worse, sounds like a recovery option now, but thats just an opinion.
[02:49] <Darkangel> fatNERD: whats the problem maybe i could help...
[02:50] <abc_> Yo Guys
[02:50] <wilee-nilee> rr_, Is it all ext type partition or partitions?
[02:50] <wilee-nilee> is it the whole HD?
[02:50] <wiak> w30 i got 32GB ram, soo do i need 64-bit?
[02:50] <Darkangel> yes wiak
[02:50]  * wiak lolz :P
[02:51] <rr_> pretty much one large partition yeah, two smaller ones - i just set it up as default
[02:51] <jb992> -_- You have 32 gigabytes of ram and don't know the difference?
[02:51] <w30> maxiPad3gs, there ya go, another choice. How much configuring have you done on the 32 bit install? and how hard is it to get the 64 bit iso?
[02:51] <wiak> <- macgered him self a working highpoint 12tb raid array ubuntu server
[02:51] <jb992> I designed my own microprocessor and I only have 8 lol
[02:51] <wiak> highpoint was no freaking help :O
[02:52] <wilee-nilee> rr_, is the whole thing not mountable?
[02:52] <wiak> rr_ gpt?
[02:52] <jb992> wiak, a 32-bit operating system will only allow each process to use a maximum of 4 GiB of RAM
[02:52] <wiak> i know fool
[02:52] <wiak> :P
[02:52] <w30> maxiPad3gs, with that processor install would not take long *smile* I wish I had it.
[02:52] <jb992> Then why did you ask if you need 64-bit?
[02:53] <wiak> i have been running 64-bit since amd came out with it :P
[02:53] <Darkangel> 64 bit can handle alot more then we have n the world of RAM it subports 60EB
[02:53] <jb992> You don't *need* 64 bit, you'd just be wasting a metric shit-ton of ram
[02:53] <Ben64> jb992: watch the language
[02:54] <b_> lol
[02:54] <Darkangel> good Points jd but ya i agree with ben there
[02:54] <rr_> I tried mounting it from the home folder, and now it doesn't even show up there.  tried mounting just sdb1 from the terminal.  haven't tried the whole thing.
[02:54] <xmetal> i have 4GB on my "newest" PC and so i dont have to keep downloading a 64bit and 32bit version of every OS, i just stick with 32bit .. and happy with it
[02:54] <xmetal> (i only get on high speed from time to time)
[02:54] <rr_> heres the info from fdisk     Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System /dev/sdb1   *        2048  3891300351  1945649152   83  Linux /dev/sdb2      3891302398  3907024895     7861249    5  Extended Partition 2 does not start on physical sector boundary. /dev/sdb5      3891302400  3907024895     7861248   82  Linux swap / Solaris
[02:55] <jb992> 32 bit makes sense for some uses, for example for using less than 4 GiB of RAM for non-scientific computing purposes
[02:55] <jb992> You can save some overhead (to a degree)
[02:55] <Darkangel> if u use a 32 Bit on a 64 Bit system u will get Glitches and Bugs from it i know this while back
[02:55] <xmetal> that seems odd
[02:55] <jb992> Bugs? I've never heard of that
[02:56] <xmetal> same here, @ jb992
[02:56]  * w30 's 64 bit  system plays solitare really fast
[02:56] <rr_> wiak - i'm not familiar with gpt , pretty new at all this.
[02:56] <Darkangel> it does but thats my exp... Bugs = stuff that will get messed up and ull have to fix it ike ur Volume Drivers will go out
[02:56] <Ben64> Darkangel: thats really not true
[02:56] <b_> so.. with 1600 people in the room, nobody has battery life problems on laptop running ubuntu 12.04LTS?
[02:56] <wiak> sudo parted -l | grep -C 1 -A 10 gpt
[02:56] <jb992> w30, a 64-bit system won't process faster, it just allows it to allocate more hardware
[02:57] <maxiPad3gs> I am still confused as to how I got a 32 bit OS on my pad lol? :(
[02:57] <Darkangel> sure ok
[02:57] <wiak> should find if your drives are gpt :P
[02:57] <Darkangel> so im just imagines it
[02:57] <Ben64> how about we get the channel back on topic
[02:57] <Ben64> #ubuntu-offtopic if you want to chat
[02:58] <jb992> Ben64, I'm curious, are you a moderator?
[02:58] <maxiPad3gs> Is there an easy way to see why my USB 3.0 is not running at speed?
[02:58] <Darkangel> well tecknickly im helpin people im not sure how im off Topic
[02:58] <jb992> maxiPad3gs, do you have the proper drivers installed?
[02:59] <w30> jb992, yeah, I understand that the code needs to be optimized more than just using 64 bit registers
[02:59] <maxiPad3gs> jb992: i think i covered that before and that is yes sorry i didnt mention that at startup sometimes it works
[02:59] <maxiPad3gs> jb992: i think it could be Conky
[03:00] <rr_> wiak - tried that command, didn't get any output.  running the gparted partition editor now.
[03:00] <sportif> .
[03:00] <Darkangel> that Gpart is alot of help for sure
[03:00] <dr_willis> conky is really handy. :) theres a conky config tool i saw on webupd8 or omgubuntu that lets you eaially add some nice conky setups
[03:00] <maxiPad3gs> Nevermind, I can live wihtout my USB 3.0 until saucy drops
[03:01] <Valeness> Is it possible to partition half my Harddrive for Ubuntu and the other half for windows?
[03:01] <jb992> Yes, Valeness, the installer provides for it
[03:01] <Valeness> Ah, thank you jb992
[03:01] <jb992> It's one of the default options IIRC
[03:01] <dr_willis> 'insall alongside'
[03:01] <Valeness> It's been a while since I installed. I'm still running 10.04 :P
[03:01] <dr_willis> or you can manually partion how you want. "somthing else..."
[03:02] <jb992> I would recommend double checking your partition setup before you install though if you do do the automated route.
[03:02] <jb992> I always prefer to double-check.
[03:02] <dr_willis> of course make backups of imporntaant stuff befor you install
[03:02] <maxiPad3gs> Valeness: oh yeah thats easy.. I used Unetbootin and installed along side no probs
[03:02] <jb992> That's pretty much a given dr_willis
[03:02] <dr_willis> jb992:  but so ignored...
[03:02] <jb992> lol so true
[03:02] <Valeness> Haha, I'm backing up right now
[03:02] <qin> Doesn't "alongside" means on the same partition?
[03:03] <dr_willis> most imporntant stuff i have is the wifes video files..
[03:03] <Darkangel> no
[03:03] <jb992> Backups should be kept anyways, and idealy they are painless, or else the user doesn't keep them
[03:03] <Valeness> I messed up this distro pretty bad being stupid. So I'm doing a fresh install of both OS's
[03:03] <dr_willis> qin:  i rhink so yes.
[03:03] <dr_willis> qin:  on the same 'drive'
[03:03] <maxiPad3gs> qin: you create a seperate partition in the Unetbootin Grub
[03:03] <wilee-nilee> Valeness, 10:04 desktop is end of life you know this right?
[03:03] <Darkangel> its 2 partishons but 1 hdd of u just have 1 its a 2 OS system's on 1 HDD
[03:03] <jb992> For example, I use VSS for windows, and rsnapshot for linux
[03:03] <maxiPad3gs> qin: or no wait. you pass the grub and partition in the Ubuntu set up
[03:03] <Valeness> Haha, it's an old desktop. I don't think it'd run 12.04
[03:03] <rr_> only thing gparted shows is sda1 - which is the other drive i have which is a bootable windows drive.  doesn't show sdb at all
[03:04] <dr_willis> Valeness:  only if it dosent support PAE in the cpu.
[03:04] <dr_willis> Valeness:  if so.. thats a real old system. )
[03:04] <Valeness> Uhm, it's maybe 8-9 years old, I'm not sure :P
[03:04] <dr_willis> Valeness:  test with a live cd.
[03:04] <jb992> Valeness, did you try booting something like Knoppix to erase the partition, then rewriting the bootmanager/mbr with windows' recovery tools?
[03:04] <Valeness> I did not jb992
[03:05] <Valeness> And good idea dr_willis
[03:05] <jb992> Was it a fresh install of windows and ubuntu in the first place?
[03:05] <jb992> Or would doing a reinstall from scratch be a better option?
[03:05] <Valeness> Oh, I don't have both installed. I formatted and then installed ubuntu
[03:05] <jb992> Oh, ok. Thanks for clearing that up.
[03:06] <Valeness> However, I miss my Windows Gaming, so I wanted a partition to run Warcraft III :D
[03:06] <jb992> lol
[03:06] <Ben64> Valeness: warcraft 3 works fine with wine
[03:06] <jb992> Ben64, what's the performance like?
[03:06] <Valeness> but you have to run gameranger and stuff to play with friends
[03:06] <jb992> It can't be good
[03:06] <Ben64> jb992: why can't it
[03:06] <Valeness> I'd rather not risk that kind of delay
[03:07] <jb992> Well, it's not running on the native platform for one
[03:07] <rr_> used the command sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt which got me this error - mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sdb1,  missing codepage or helper program, or other error
[03:07] <Ben64> jb992: so? thats literally why wine exists
[03:07] <jb992> Ben64, wine is not optimized for performance of win32 applications as well as windows
[03:08] <jb992> See this
[03:08] <jb992> http://wiki.winehq.org/Performance
[03:08] <Ben64> jb992: you obviously have no idea how it works
[03:08] <Ben64> Valeness: the easiest way to get both windows and ubuntu on a computer is to install windows first, then install ubuntu
[03:08] <jb992> Ben64, Please refer to my link before accusing me.
[03:08] <Valeness> Ben64, thank you, I will probably do that
[03:08] <maxiPad3gs> I have a Mac Mini triple booting Raring Desktop/ Windoze/ and Moutain Lion ...
[03:09] <Valeness> Triple Booting? :o
[03:09] <maxiPad3gs> yep
[03:09] <jb992> What about triple booting? -_-
[03:09] <waterlite> hi all
[03:09] <Darkangel> hello
[03:10] <jb992> What would be nice is if someone made a boot manager that worked around the different eccentricities of the different operating systems and was reliable
[03:10] <maxiPad3gs> jb992: you mean like BOOTCAMP?
[03:10] <jb992> Something like that
[03:10] <jb992> I mean for PCs.
[03:10] <maxiPad3gs> but for Ubuntu open source right
[03:10] <maxiPad3gs> jb992: >> off topic before Ben yells at us
[03:11] <Darkangel> lol
[03:11] <Ben64> its the channel rules, its really not that hard to understand
[03:11] <qin> what is particulary wrong with grub?
[03:11] <Darkangel> Ben64: are u a Mod?
[03:11] <b_> <-----in off topic nobody is talking  =x
[03:11] <jb992> It can be problematic in my experience
[03:11] <jb992> I've wasted way too much time fixing grub
[03:12] <jb992> What I need, and want, is something that just *works*
[03:12] <waterlite> hi all
[03:12] <jb992> Something that's bugtested thoroughly and gives detailed error reports
[03:12] <xmetal> i have had to adjust an option or two in grub, for other distro's when i had to do a kernel upgrade by hand, but i never had issues with grub (legacy or grub2)
[03:12] <jb992> I've had pains with grub dealing with multiple operating systems
[03:12] <dr_willis> if its totally  bugtested.. it wont have errors. ;)
[03:13] <wilee-nilee> grub is pretty straight forward never had a problem, you have to know how to use it.
[03:13] <jb992> Good point dr_willis
[03:13] <waterlite> Is Xchat a good client ?
[03:13] <waterlite> whats a good client for Linux users
[03:13] <jb992> I prefer Hexchat personally
[03:13] <waterlite> oh
[03:13] <Valeness> waterlite: I use it, works great. *shrug*
[03:13] <Darkangel> can 1 Update there Grub?
[03:13] <jb992> It's theme-able
[03:14] <qin> waterlite: irssi
[03:14] <jb992> Yes, you can update grub
[03:14] <Darkangel> how?
[03:14] <b_> pidgin?
[03:14] <jb992> What are you looking to do DarkAce-Z
[03:14] <Valeness> Yeah, I like how I can change the colors of Xchat to not hurt my eyes :D
[03:14] <Darkangel> what Terminal Codes?
[03:14] <xmetal> hexchat is a windows (they have linux versions) clone of xchat
[03:14] <jb992> *Darkangel
[03:14] <xmetal> oops
[03:14] <jb992> lol name autocorrect
[03:14] <Darkangel> what?
[03:14] <jb992> What are you trying to do with grub?
[03:14] <xmetal> they have linux versions? * ... forgot the puncuation
[03:15] <jb992> Regarding updating it?
[03:15] <waterlite> oh
[03:15] <waterlite> well what do you guys think about Ircing from a phone?
[03:15] <Ben64> xmetal: xchat is linux
[03:15] <waterlite> Is it worth ir or?
[03:15] <jb992> I use androidirc for that
[03:15] <Floopssy> whats good monitor networks on ubuntu
[03:15] <waterlite> hmmm
[03:15] <jb992> hexchat is linux too :)
[03:15] <Ben64> waterlite: #ubuntu-offtopic for topics not relating to ubuntu support
[03:15] <waterlite> jb992:  but typing on a eyboard is hurrendous
[03:15] <xmetal> thats what i meant
[03:16] <xmetal> (hexchat)
[03:16] <jb992> waterlite, try swipe typing :)
[03:16] <qin> Floopssy: iftop; tcptrack;
[03:16] <dance4x> So I'm getting a black screen with a cursor on boot after an update from today
[03:16] <waterlite> jb992:  I pmed you
[03:16] <waterlite> lets talk there/
[03:16] <jb992> hexchat is based on xchat
[03:16] <jb992> it's free though
[03:16] <waterlite> I see
[03:16] <waterlite> intersting
[03:16] <Floopssy> good ones with graphically interface beside bandwithd
[03:16] <waterlite> hm
[03:17] <wilee-nilee> dance4x, You have an nvidia card?
[03:17] <dance4x> Why yes I do wilee-nilee
[03:17] <wilee-nilee> dance4x, Is the driver from their website?
[03:17] <Darkangel> Would there be any Other problems from Upgrading from 12.04 ubunt to 13.04 internet style? beside's that problem from disconnected internet...
[03:18] <dance4x> wilee-nilee: the update was from Ubuntu update manager
[03:18] <wilee-nilee> dance4x, Hmm we had a kernel upgrade in 13.04 today did you?
[03:18] <dance4x> wilee-nilee:  There was a Linux kernel update and nvidia update
[03:18] <xmetal> wouldn't it be better to go from 12.04 to (there a 12.10?) to 13.04 ?
[03:18] <dance4x> wilee-nilee: yes
[03:18] <qin> Darkangel: is there direct upgrade 12.04 -> 13.04?
[03:19] <Ben64> 12.04 will upgrade directly to 14.04
[03:19] <Darkangel> no not right now as i know of but i bet ill figure it out real fast
[03:19] <dance4x> wilee-nilee: I'm on 12.04 though
[03:19] <wilee-nilee> dance4x, Sounds like that is the area of problems, I know nothing about these drivers is all
[03:19] <Darkangel> prob Upgrading from Disk with out delteing any thing
[03:20] <wilee-nilee> dance4x, YOu might get in with an earlier kernel or a nomodeset boot.
[03:20] <wilee-nilee> to fix it
[03:20] <qin> is your /home on separate partition?
[03:20] <qin> Darkangel: ^^
[03:20] <dance4x> Here is what I've done so far wilee-nilee
[03:20] <Darkangel> no
[03:20] <dance4x> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1743535&page=130&p=12763791#post12763791
[03:21] <dance4x> The last post on there by kmoneylongshanks
[03:21] <Darkangel> Its all 1 Partition i only Have Ubuntu 13.04 on here
[03:21] <qin> Darkangel: Back up.
[03:21] <xmetal> there was another distro .. the "jan 2013 version" was ok on this laptop, though I had to do a nomodeset boot on my older desktop
[03:22] <Darkangel> nope never Backed Up never got me a job yet and that kinda helps lolz
[03:22] <Darkangel> just a little bit
[03:22] <xmetal> which just reminded me i wanted to install enlightenmint on that *c
[03:22] <xmetal> PC *
[03:22] <qin> Darkangel: I ment `do back up` and with next install make sure to have /home on separate partition
[03:23] <wilee-nilee> dance4x, I'm not up on these problems.
[03:23] <Darkangel> aww ok
[03:23] <Ben64> dance4x: you probably need to install kernel headers
[03:23] <Ben64> dance4x: and then reconfigure dkms
[03:23] <Darkangel> Any 1 have problems Installin any Games or Online Games on there Ubuntu OS
[03:23] <Ben64> !anyone | Darkangel
[03:23] <Darkangel> i can be a huge help with that
[03:24] <dance4x> Ben64 I have no idea what you're talking about but I imagine some googling will be able to help me figure out what you mean
[03:24] <Darkangel> mmmmk
[03:24] <bazhang> Darkangel, keep the extra chit chat elsewhere
[03:24] <wilee-nilee> !nomodeset | dance4x To get in
[03:24] <jb992> bazhang, who made you moderator?
[03:25] <bazhang> jb992, lets get back on topic please
[03:25] <Basil1x> Ubuntu 13.04.  Is there a way to enlarge /boot in LVM.  It seems to be out of space.
[03:25] <Darkangel> wow yes guys ill make sure ill remember that just tryin to help some people makin sure they have there full alsome exp with Ubuntu OS some people dont know the Tricks on installing sertain games in there OS
[03:25] <xmetal> i am still a little puzzled over my kernel upgrade issues (not a big deal i suppose) ..  related to a tarball issue and it's dpkg that is comiaining
[03:25] <xmetal> complaining too
[03:25] <null_dev> Okay, guys. I'm really, really loathing to ask this question here, but my friend is asking me to help him with his Windows machine. Is there a room for Windows support? I need someone to look over a ComboFix log.
[03:25] <jb992> Basil1x, I believe you'll have to expand the LVM container first
[03:25] <bazhang> !ot | Darkangel
[03:26] <qin> jb992: In irc there are ops, and its better to aknoledge them than discus it
[03:26] <bazhang> null_dev, ##windows
[03:26] <dance4x> wilee-nilee: well let's see if this works. I just booted into an old kernal but it was text only
[03:26] <null_dev> bazhang Thank you.
[03:26] <xmetal> uh ... what the heck?
[03:26] <SkinnyV> I was wondering if somebody could help me with a simple start up scriot
[03:26] <Basil1x> LVM container has 956GB, 90% of which is free space. jb992
[03:26] <SkinnyV> I am trying to have something autostart using rc.local
[03:26] <wilee-nilee> dance4x, If you can get to a desktop, the instructions by Ben64 will be easier is all.
[03:26] <k_sze[work]> Hello.
[03:26] <Basil1x> Still, /boot tops out at 227MB
[03:27] <k_sze[work]> Is it true that in Ubuntu, IPv4 can be configured as a subset of IPv6?
[03:27] <jb992> Here, see if this helps
[03:27] <jb992> http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO/extendlv.html
[03:27] <jb992> You may want to read the MAN pages for some of those commands, like "lvextend"
[03:28] <jb992> You'll have to increase the size of the logical volume, then increase the filesystem size.
[03:28] <SkinnyV> anybody could jsut give me an hand? I just need one thing to autostart
[03:28] <jb992> You'll have to unmount the filesystem that you want to expand to do that
[03:28] <wilee-nilee> null_dev, I would have them post on bleeping computers.
[03:30] <somsip> SkinnyV: just say what you are trying to do. someone will help if they can
[03:30] <null_dev> wilee-nilee Thank you. I was hoping for IRC help because he's starting school next weekend and needs his computer so time is of the essence, but I'll definitely post there.
[03:30] <Basil1x> I only want to let /boot use more space.  The LVM already has the entire drive.
[03:31] <Basil1x> I do not want to expand the LVM partition itself.  It already uses the entire drive.
[03:32] <dance4x> wilee-nilee: thank you for your help but nomodeset did not work
[03:33] <SkinnyV> Ok, I need to start a deamon for my minecraft server everytime I restart the server. To do this, I log with SSH, navigate to a directory with CD FOLDERNAME, and then give this command /bin/multicraft -v start . I want that to be done automaticly on reboot by the rc.local
[03:35] <somsip> SkinnyV: then you add those lines to rc.local (if this is the way you want to do it). eg "cd /home/skinnyv/.minecraft && /bin/multicraft -v start"
[03:36] <SkinnyV> I wasnt sure how to have it go to the folder, so I just separate command with $$?
[03:36] <somsip> SkinnyV: I hope that's a typo. Look again
[03:36] <SkinnyV> oh I ment &&
[03:37] <dr_willis> ;)
[03:37] <somsip> SkinnyV: however, this may not be the best way to start the server. A quick search suggest upstart scripts can be used, eg: http://www.cryptkcoding.com/2012/03/how-to-build-a-minecraft-server-on-ubuntu/ This might be out of date though
[03:37] <dr_willis> rc.local runs everything as root.. so you may or may not want that
[03:37] <witeshark> what is the cause of a spontaneously appearing gray question mark launcher box marked 'exe' when highlighted?
[03:38] <dr_willis> witeshark:  never heard of such a thing... post a screenshot  perhaps.
[03:38] <witeshark> selecting 'quit' fails to remove it
[03:38] <dr_willis> witeshark:  when does this appear? on login? after a while? at random?
[03:39] <witeshark> dr_willis, it seems to have appeared immediately after loading a wunderground.com site
[03:40] <witeshark> i saw the launcher 'pop out' on activity and there it was
[03:40] <dr_willis> witeshark:  so if you kill the browser (via kill or xkill) does it vanish?
[03:40] <qin> witeshark: in any browser?
[03:40] <witeshark> qin, it did not happen on FF
[03:40] <dr_willis> could be some annoying windows advertisement
[03:41] <SkinnyV> trying it now
[03:41] <witeshark> dr_willis, no, clearing browser data and closing chrome did nothing
[03:41] <witeshark> the only thing that removed it was reboot
[03:41] <dr_willis> try killall chromium-bbrowser or google-chrome or whateveer they are called
[03:41] <qin> witeshark: maybe autostart option and default programs?
[03:41] <dr_willis> also try just 'xkill' and click on the window in question
[03:41] <dr_willis> theres some tool i recall like xkill that gives window info whenyou click on them
[03:42] <dr_willis> but i forget its name
[03:42] <witeshark> dr_willis, ah neat idea thanks
[03:42] <Poodle448> What's the off topic channel name?
[03:42] <somsip> !ot | Poodle448
[03:42] <qin> !ot
[03:42] <Poodle448> thanks
[03:42] <Poodle448> !ot
[03:42] <Poodle448> #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:42] <dr_willis> no one ever reads what the bot says ;P
[03:43] <SkinnyV> hmmm, it doesnt seem to be starting with that command in rc.loacl
[03:43] <dr_willis> SkinnyV:  id make a script that starts it.. then run that script from rc.local
[03:43] <dr_willis> SkinnyV:  and make sure it runs as the proper user.
[03:44] <Poodle448> dr_willis well I did.
[03:44] <SkinnyV> I added this to rc.local: cd multicraft && ./bin/multicraft -v start (this command work when executed as root from the command line
[03:44] <dr_willis> if your users home dirs are encrypted.. that may also get in the way ski
[03:44] <dance4x> Ben64: is there a way to revert back to an old Ubuntu version from the terminal. I can ac ESS Ubuntu through an old kernel but its text onky
[03:44] <dance4x> Only
[03:44] <dr_willis> you really want the server running as root?
[03:44] <somsip> SkinnyV: you might be better off adding something to rc.local like '/usr/local/bin/multicraft &' and then creating /usr/local/bin/multicraft that contains the cd ... && .. commands
[03:44] <Poodle448> Hey can you get ice (from pepermintOS on Ubtuntu?)
[03:45] <SkinnyV> well, thats the only way i was able to start the deamon from the ssh prompt
[03:45] <SkinnyV> after entering sudo su -
[03:45] <dr_willis> and  you ment cd /home/multicraft or what exactly SkinnyV ?    rc.local will want correct paths
[03:45] <dr_willis> no need to use cd &&command in a script..  juss tput the commands on differnt lines.
[03:46] <SkinnyV> when run from the command prompt it work with jsut cd multicraft, should i add the full path to the rc.loacl?
[03:46] <dr_willis> SkinnyV:  cd multicradt is NOT a full path to where its at...
[03:46] <dr_willis> SkinnyV:  so i would bet that would fail most of the time
[03:46] <somsip> SkinnyV: yes, like I said earlier...cd /home/skinnyv/.minecraft or whereever it really lives
[03:47] <dr_willis> bash baics. :)  when in doubt use the full path
[03:47] <dr_willis> basics
[03:47] <dr_willis> cd multicraft will fail if your shell is not starting  where multicraft is at.
[03:47] <zykotick9> SkinnyV: it's not a good idea to use "sudo su -"  use "sudo -i" instead.  i'd also try changing your "cd ..." to use the FULL path instead "/blah/bin/multicraft -v start" (no cd)
[03:47] <SkinnyV> ok I'll try, thanks guys
[03:48] <somsip> zykotick9: If multicraft looks in the PWD for the jar (or whatever) he might need to fiddle a bit with this maybe?
[03:49] <zykotick9> somsip: oh.... well that does change things!  SkinnyV sorry looks like i gave bad advice re multicraft.
[03:49] <somsip> zykotick9: I don't know how it definitely works. Just trying to cover all bases for SkinnyV
[03:50] <dr_willis> also rc.local uses sh not bash.
[03:50] <dr_willis> seen that get in the way of some people also
[03:50] <zykotick9> somsip: personally, i just question "cd foo" working in rc.local myself???
[03:50] <somsip> zykotick9: yeah - I thought cd .. && command would work, but calling this in a separate batch file would be better if it definitely needs to cd
[03:51] <zykotick9> somsip: +1 for calling batch
[03:51] <SkinnyV> so I would just add my command to a file named whatever.sh and call that file from teh rc.local?
[03:52] <somsip> SkinnyV: ^^^ lots of ideas for you to try then :-)
[03:52] <rr_> Gonna go to sleep soon - but made a post detailing the troubles with my file system/inability to boot - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2169188&p=12763841#post12763841 - think I'm giving up for today, but if anyone has any ideas, it'd be much appreciated.
[03:52] <somsip> SkinnyV: yeah - the standard is for these to go in /usr/local/bin, so /usr/local/bin/multicraft.sh for example
[03:53] <somsip> SkinnyV: then rc.local has '/usr/local/bin/multicraft.sh &'. And multicraft.sh contains 'cd /path (newline) /bin/multicraft -v start' or whatever that path to the real multicraft should be
[03:57] <SkinnyV> why the & at the end of the rc.local commandÉ
[03:57] <SkinnyV> ?
[03:57] <SolarAquarion> how do I add /usr/games to my path?
[03:57] <somsip> SkinnyV: starts the commandin the background in case multicraft doesn't return cleanly
[03:58] <SkinnyV> oh i see
[03:58] <qin> SolarAquarion: is not in it? echo $PATH
[04:00] <SolarAquarion> qin, it's there
[04:01] <qin> SolarAquarion: PATH=$PATH:/home/$USER/.bin
[04:01] <qin> added to ~/.bashrc create user wide path
[04:02] <SkinnyV> its weird, I cant even run the script as root from ssh, it says permissio ndenied
[04:02] <somsip> SkinnyV: chmod +x /usr/local/bin/multicraft.sh
[04:02] <Basil1x> Ah.  Deleted some of the 23 old kernels I had in /boot and all is now well again.  Must figure out how to expand it one day.
[04:03] <SkinnyV> oh, forgot about permission, thx
[04:04] <SolarAquarion> qin, the game is there but it wasn't added to the auto play when i decided to do the name of the game
[04:05] <SolarAquarion> in xterm
[04:05] <SolarAquarion> for example osu
[04:05] <SkinnyV> is there a way to run this script as a user?
[04:05] <SolarAquarion> i need to create a menu file
[04:05] <SkinnyV> it seem to work but it can't find the config files for the server
[04:06] <somsip> SkinnyV: /usr/local/bin/multicraft.sh should do it
[04:06] <SkinnyV> its weird because it work whe ni run the command stright in the command prompt as root
[04:06] <somsip> SkinnyV: what dir are you in when you do that?
[04:07] <SkinnyV> i just enter /usr/local/bin/multicraft.sh in the command prompt
[04:07] <SkinnyV> as root
[04:07] <qin> SolarAquarion: what does: which osu; says?
[04:07] <somsip> SkinnyV: so what isn't it doing right?
[04:08] <Guest4720>  m
[04:08] <SkinnyV> it start the deamon but it return error about not finding the config file for the game server which isnt an issue if I just enter cd multicraft and then ./bin/multicraft -v start
[04:08] <somsip> SkinnyV: cd to multicraft than paste the result of 'pwd'
[04:09] <SolarAquarion> qin, it automatically goes to the wine installation script.
[04:09] <SolarAquarion> But if I press the /usr/games/osu file it launcher osu
[04:10] <SkinnyV> it just return /root/multicraft
[04:10] <somsip> SkinnyV: and there is a bin directory in there, which contains the multicraft executable?
[04:11] <SkinnyV> no,it is in home/multicraft/ I think
[04:12] <somsip> SkinnyV: take this the right way, but please don't 'think' check it
[04:12] <dr_willis> you made a user named 'multicraft' ?
[04:12] <qin> qin: wine? well, wine programs are started by wine not bash. Nautilus (the clickable thinky) have sorta mime types, so it calls wine to deal with its stuff, bash would require spesific command, here: wine osu (or something), see #winehq
[04:12] <SkinnyV> sorry, let me check
[04:12] <SkinnyV> yes there is a multicraft user
[04:12] <qin> hmmm, buggy spelling...
[04:13] <SkinnyV> the file are located in /home/multicraft/multicraft/
[04:13] <qin> SolarAquarion: ^^^^
[04:13] <somsip> SkinnyV: so when you just posted "it just return /root/multicraft" was that a mistake?
[04:13] <SkinnyV> no it is really what its returning
[04:14] <dr_willis> and this is or is not a Windows exe?   i missed how wine figures into this
[04:15] <zykotick9> SkinnyV: if you use sudo, the ~ is actually /root
[04:15] <SolarAquarion> qin, i want it to launch with the terminal
[04:15] <SolarAquarion> I do need to add it to the menu or something
[04:17] <qin> SolarAquarion: can you tell me what program is it?
[04:17] <SolarAquarion> qin, osu!
[04:18] <SolarAquarion> which i installed via a deb
[04:18] <qin> SolarAquarion: and: which /usr/games/osu; output
[04:18] <qin> ok, moment
[04:18] <SolarAquarion> qin, you want the output?
[04:18] <CorruptedHelix> Hey! I'm running Ubuntu in VirtualBox, and when I booted it up I was presented the GUI asking me to try it or install it. Would it be a good idea to install it on a Virtual Machine? Would it affect my actual computer at all?
[04:18] <SkinnyV> ah, got it to work, it was doing cd multicraft but after that my line was asking it to run the multicraft deamon from the incomplete directory
[04:18] <somsip> SkinnyV: so you're okay now?
[04:19] <holstein> CorruptedHelix: it will install the os on the virtual machine you are running
[04:19] <SkinnyV> yeah, it's seem to be running now
[04:19] <SkinnyV> thanks a lot guy, sorry for bothering you
[04:19] <somsip> SkinnyV: cool  - np
[04:19] <qin> SolarAquarion: yes
[04:19] <CorruptedHelix> holstein: Good enough, that's something I'm typically hesitant to do because I never work with Virtual Machines
[04:19] <SkinnyV> thanks to everyoen for the help, its really apreciated
[04:19] <holstein> CorruptedHelix: virtual machines are virtual.. so, they dont effect the host..
[04:20] <CorruptedHelix> holstein: Understandly, but I'm a paranoid individual
[04:20] <CorruptedHelix> *understandably
[04:20] <CorruptedHelix> So I made sure.
[04:21] <dr_willis> its virtually impssible? ;)
[04:21] <dr_willis> i run ubuntu in vbox on windows all the time.
[04:22] <dr_willis> well Lubuntu actually.. its to handy to not have a linux box around
[04:22] <SolarAquarion> qin, http://pastebin.com/eZBgS9uA
[04:22] <holstein> CorruptedHelix: computers dont care about your "mood".. or if you are paranoid.. or not.. the fact is, the guest doesnt change the host.. and you welcome and encouraged to confirm that via *any* source you find
[04:23] <dr_willis> the guest could  affect the host in any way that any other machine on the same lan   could.. i imagine.
[04:24] <dr_willis> since they would be the same as several networked machines on the same lan.
[04:24] <airtonix> dr_willis: not if the power isn't plugged in!
[04:24] <dr_willis> Need Moar Powar!
[04:24] <qin> SolarAquarion: what does: wine /opt/osu/osu\!.exe
[04:25] <SolarAquarion> qin, it crashes
[04:25] <qin> SolarAquarion: what error?
[04:26] <SolarAquarion> qin, http://pastebin.com/GEj0bugF
[04:28] <qin> SolarAquarion: do you have osu file in your home directory?
[04:28] <SolarAquarion> qin, no
[04:29] <SolarAquarion> qin, should i create a symlink?
[04:29] <qin> SolarAquarion: try this: env WINEPREFIX="/home/yourname/.wine/osu" wine C:\\Program\ Files\\osu\\osu!.exe
[04:30] <SolarAquarion> qin, i by mistakenly cleared text
[04:30] <qin> SolarAquarion: ?
[04:31] <SolarAquarion> qin, there's a bash script file in the osu directory
[04:31] <SolarAquarion> which features all the fixes
[04:33] <SolarAquarion> qin, i just pasted the bash script file
[04:34] <josePHPagoda> Hello everyone!  Anyone here able to connect to a PPTP VPN server under Ubuntu 13.04?
[04:37] <qin> SolarAquarion: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=9581 and #winehq channel may be better bet.
[04:40] <wilee-nilee> josePHPagoda, 3rd party vpn right?
[04:40] <josePHPagoda> it's just a PPTP server, I think it's on a Fortigate
[04:40] <josePHPagoda> i've been reading a lot that PPTP might be broken on 13.04
[04:41] <josePHPagoda> wilee-nilee: :)
[04:42] <josePHPagoda> see https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/1175897
[04:44] <josePHPagoda> i see that someone might have found a solution by custom compiling the pppd binaries, but I really hate compiling over the top of other packages
[04:44] <josePHPagoda> but I can't see that anyone has released packages that are fixed
[04:45] <wilee-nilee> josePHPagoda, I see bug stuff, but I see what seem to be more info here, not an area I know anything about really. http://askubuntu.com/search?q=PPTP+13.04
[04:45] <josePHPagoda> i've already read most of those :-/
[04:47] <josePHPagoda> it's a shame because I'm needing this for work, and having it break in the latest version is kind of scary
[04:47] <josePHPagoda> puts me out of a job :(
[04:48] <NDJ> Hey
[04:49] <josePHPagoda> i don't suppose there is anywhere that I can pay to have Canonical prioritize a fix or something...
[04:49] <josePHPagoda> seems fairly widespread
[04:49] <NDJ> What the command to 'debloat' and uninstall defuly stuff on ubuntu. It was something like apt-get unity lens
[04:49] <NDJ> I cant recal
[04:49] <NDJ> *reccal
[04:49] <NDJ> close enough L|
[04:49] <NDJ> :|
[04:49] <dr_willis> !noads
[04:50] <NDJ> !noads
[04:50] <dr_willis> !noad
[04:50] <NDJ> !noad
[04:50] <dr_willis> if you mean the  amazon suggestions
[04:50] <dr_willis> !adlens
[04:50] <NDJ> I think
[04:50] <dr_willis> its not bloat. ;)
[04:50] <NDJ> Yes that! And what does it do?
[04:51] <dr_willis> 'more suggetions'
[04:51] <NDJ> And how do I remove it via cli?
[04:51] <dr_willis> the various blog sites discuss nit in detail
[04:51] <NDJ> thank you!
[04:51] <dr_willis> i dont find it worth removeing
[04:52] <dr_willis> or worrying about
[04:52] <dr_willis> 13.10 really improves on the feature
[04:52] <NDJ> I'm a tinfoil hat :|
[04:52] <dr_willis> turn off your pc.. throw itaway
[04:52] <josePHPagoda> dr_willis: does 13.10 fix the VPN issues? :P  I've hit a wall here trying to fix PPTP vpn connections under 13.04
[04:52] <dr_willis> jose no idea. i dont use vpn
[04:53] <jose> josePHPagoda: ^
[04:53] <dr_willis> test it with a live cd
[04:54] <Guest8171> Hi. I'm making my own program launcher, and I want to make it more general purpose (so I can distribute it). Where do I store the launcher icon?
[04:54] <AcidRain2012> does anyone have any advice on why  my external hdds are moving so slow?
[04:54] <AcidRain2012> usually they push about 30mb/sec transfer. they are peaking at about 1mb/sec right now
[04:54] <NDJ> See yall, thanks for help!
[04:54] <AcidRain2012> but this has been going on for about 3 days now
[04:54] <dr_willis> lots of little files or big files?
[04:55] <joshuag> hello ppl
[04:55] <AcidRain2012> lots of big files, usually movies
[04:55] <AcidRain2012> songs, text files
[04:55] <josePHPagoda> well... I'm off.  Hopefully I can talk my employer into letting me use a site to site vpn rather than a point to site vpn, since point to site looks broken currently.
[04:55] <AcidRain2012> but when i add them i do it one at a time
[04:55] <josePHPagoda> until then, I'm out of work.
[04:56] <josePHPagoda> talk with you later!
[04:56] <joshuag> any one wanna help me out
[04:56] <josePHPagoda> joshuag: what issue do you have?
[04:56] <Timetoplay> joshuag, no, we all sit around just to laugh at people who need help :)
[04:57] <AcidRain2012> dr_willis, i notice that this also makes my movies lag when im watching them. once i cancel a transfer ,because it could take up to 20min for a 2gb movie, the movie im currently watching will stop lagging
[04:57] <joshuag> i want to dual boot win 8 and ubuntu but when i go into ubuntu it frezzes after like a few mins of using it
[04:57] <joshuag> i have used 64bit
[04:57] <josePHPagoda> hmm... what hardware is it?
[04:57] <AcidRain2012> also, does anyone know how to make it so when i click on a torrent link in firefox ,transmission will automatically open. its not in the options list, and i cant find it
[04:57] <josePHPagoda> I've never hit that issue
[04:57] <josePHPagoda> so I likely can't help much
[04:57] <josePHPagoda> i've gotta go to bed though or I'll keep pulling my hair out
[04:57] <josePHPagoda> (borked VPN :( )
[04:58] <josePHPagoda> but I'm sure some others can help you out joshuag
[04:58] <joshuag> i have an nvidia card and intel 960
[04:58] <dr_willis> Optimus stuff?
[04:58] <Timetoplay> so any help on where to store .desktop icons? seems the normal installed ones don't tell me where
[04:58] <dr_willis> Timetoplay:  see where gedit.desktop is at?
[04:59] <Timetoplay> yeah
[04:59] <dr_willis> id say there.  ;(
[04:59] <Timetoplay> in usr/share/applications
[04:59] <dr_willis> :)
[04:59] <Timetoplay> just... put the icon in the same place?
[04:59] <joshuag> some one going to help me out:(
[04:59] <dr_willis> locate the gedit.png is at
[05:00] <likes> never heard of it joshuag
[05:00] <dr_willis> most lilely in a theme directory
[05:00] <dr_willis> joshuag:  so this is an Optimius chipset device? if so look up  Bumblebee
[05:00] <likes> joshuag: does it freeze even when you don't do anything?
[05:00] <Timetoplay> dr_willis, alright, doing the search now. Didn't think of that :). The .desktop files just say  "Icon: gedit" and such
[05:01] <apb1963_> I want to uninstall ubuntu-desktop...  it won't go away :(
[05:01] <joshuag> yea
[05:01] <dr_willis> thats beayse  tjeu come from the theme files Timetoplay
[05:01] <dr_willis> apb1963_:  thats a meta-package. why do yuou want to remove it?
[05:01] <apb1963_> don't like it :)
[05:01] <dr_willis> removeing it does nothinh
[05:02] <apb1963_> I installed it... I should be able to remove it
[05:02] <dr_willis> apt-get remove pacjagename
[05:02] <apb1963_> I did purge
[05:02] <dr_willis> it wont acomplish anything
[05:02] <apb1963_> I know
[05:02] <likes> joshuag: did you look into the log files?
[05:02] <apb1963_> so.... how do I replace it?
[05:02] <joshuag> its hard to do that when it frezzes
[05:02] <dr_willis> apt-get install packagename
[05:03] <apb1963_> why won't it go away?  Saying it's a metapackge doesn't mean anything to me.
[05:03] <dr_willis> apb1963_:  saying it wont 'go away' tells us nothing
[05:03] <joshuag> i have a gigabyte g1. assain mobo socket 1366
[05:03] <dr_willis> apt-get remove    should remove it
[05:03] <apb1963_> well.. before I installed it, I had a command line.
[05:04] <apb1963_> Now I have a background... with no command line
[05:04] <dr_willis> go to theconsole and you have a command line
[05:04] <apb1963_> And can't access any commands
[05:04] <apb1963_> I'm on the console
[05:04] <apb1963_> all I have is a background
[05:04] <dr_willis> and you see a login: promot or what exactly?
[05:04] <apb1963_> ^^^
[05:04] <dr_willis> alt-ctrl-f1 should have no background
[05:04] <dr_willis> a through f6
[05:05] <dr_willis> alt-ctrl-f1 through f6 = the consoles
[05:05] <joshuag> and the only way i could get ubuntu installed is that i had to make my bios into ahci mode
[05:05] <apb1963_> that is a supremely awkward key combination for the record.  Yah I was doing Alt-F1.
[05:05] <dr_willis> its a key combo thats been around for decades..
[05:06] <apb1963_> doesn't make it any less awkward
[05:06] <dr_willis> on the console you just need alt-F# or crerl-f# i think
[05:06] <likes> joshuag: are your log files deleted when you boot again?
[05:06] <dr_willis> so stick to the facts.. YOU do or do not have the f1  through f6 consoles?
[05:06] <joshuag> so i just gave up on the idea of having ubuntu
[05:06] <apb1963_> now I can't get the desktop back.  lol
[05:07] <dr_willis> joshuag with a optimus chipsets you need to use bumblebee. or disable one ccard in the bios
[05:07] <dr_willis> alt-ctrl-f7 = back to X
[05:07] <apb1963_> thank you
[05:07] <apb1963_> ALT-F# does work... I must have been using the wrong keyboard earlier
[05:08] <apb1963_> thank you
[05:08] <Guest67018> sure
[05:08] <apb1963_> but apt-get purge doesn't remove it
[05:08] <dr_willis> remove what?
[05:08] <apb1963_> ubuntu-desktop
[05:08] <dr_willis> it does remove it... but that does NOT remove any of the packages that  got installed along with it.
[05:09] <dr_willis> as we said.. its a meta package.. its SOLE purpose is to pull in OTHER packages
[05:09] <dr_willis> removeing it does not remove those other packages
[05:09] <apb1963_> o i c
[05:09] <Guest67018> can you install IDM on ubuntu
[05:09] <apb1963_> kind of strange that it wouldn't... but ok at least I get it now
[05:09] <dr_willis> so IF your end goal is to hae a text only system - then you should have  said so ;)
[05:09] <dr_willis> It dosent because its the point of a meta-package
[05:09] <apb1963_> well... at the moment I just want to try a different desktop
[05:09] <dr_willis> !text
[05:10] <apb1963_> but eventually yeah... i'll want to go back to text
[05:10] <dr_willis> install whatever desktops you want. :) you can have several. I like Lubuntu-desktop
[05:10] <apb1963_> didn't see that one anywhere
[05:10] <dr_willis> use text mode, or just stop the lightdm service
[05:10] <dr_willis> !lubuntu
[05:11] <apb1963_> not that I looked hard.. just the web page I happened to be on at the time...  ubuntugeek.com
[05:11] <apb1963_> can I get it through apt-get?
[05:12] <dr_willis> !info lubuntu-desktop
[05:12] <dr_willis> yes
[05:12] <likes> joshuag: sorry, my phone died
[05:15] <apb1963_> my main goal is really just to be able to run wireshark... which I was able to do with ubuntu-desktop (which the website said was actually unity).  However, it was so sparse and  years ago I tried both gnome and kde which I remember has having THINGS on the desktop... I just got lonely.  :D
[05:15] <apb1963_> s/has/as
[05:15] <dr_willis> wireshark should be able to run on any f the X desktops. or just on X with a window manager
[05:15] <dr_willis> !info wireshark
[05:15] <apb1963_> yeah
[05:16] <dr_willis> might as well use Lubuntu-desktop - its about as simple as it gets
[05:16] <apb1963_> unity is simple... too simple.  I like to see at least a handful of icons...  I'm used to the windoze look & feel.
  did I say that?
[05:17] <dr_willis> unity has a lot of advanced features its not 'simple' ;_
[05:17] <dr_willis> !manual
[05:17] <dr_willis> but unity does want you to have proper 3d video card drivers
[05:17] <dr_willis> which may be why you get just a blank desktop
[05:17] <apb1963_> I guess when I couldn't find wireshark through the desktop, I got a bit frustrated... finally ran it over an ssh connection from windoze.   lol
[05:18] <dr_willis> from what you said. you had no desktop running  if you saw no icons
[05:18] <apb1963_> Yeah, not sure about the video card... it's an old Dell I put back into service
[05:18] <dr_willis> lubuntu would be ideal for older low end hardware
[05:19] <apb1963_> well... that could be...  I was able to access a few things such as a word processor... there was an entry for firefox, thunderbird & mutt... but I really had to poke to find it all.
[05:20] <apb1963_> I did like the background though.  Just didn't like the lack of icons... everything was hidden.
[05:21] <dr_willis> as i said.. you did NOT have unity running properly
[05:21] <dr_willis> see the unity/ubuntu manual or youtube vidoes to se ehow its supposed to look
[05:21] <apb1963_> dunno... just did an apt-get install ubuntu-desktop... then startx
[05:21] <apb1963_> Gave me a background... I figured that was the whole enchilada.
[05:22] <dr_willis> startx is a bit outdated these days also. start the lightdm service. well it should auto start
[05:22] <apb1963_> autostart after installing?
[05:22] <dr_willis> and you will still need proper 3d drivers support for unity to work right
[05:22] <dr_willis> the serevices start on bootup
[05:22] <dr_willis> sudo service lightdm start   to ttart it manually
[05:22] <apb1963_> lets be clear.. unity and ubuntu-desktop are the same?  yes or no?
[05:23] <dr_willis> ubuntu-sesktop INSTALLS the core ubuntu packages.
[05:23] <dr_willis> unity is the default desktop
[05:23] <dr_willis> so no they are not the same
[05:23] <dr_willis> in the same way a 'house' is not a 'kitchen'
[05:23] <apb1963_> so unity is the kitchen
[05:23] <b0rg> hello
[05:24] <dr_willis> !unity
[05:24] <dr_willis> unity is a stove.. in the kitchen
[05:24] <apb1963_> let me go back to lightdm and see what happens
[05:24] <dr_willis> install the lubuntu-desktop package for a fallback desktop
[05:24] <ghostnik11> hi, i am in a new time zone and location and the time in my ubuntu 13.04 never changed its showing the time of my last location
[05:25] <ghostnik11> i thought its suppose to just switch based on location or do i have to do it manually, the time change that is
[05:25] <dr_willis> ghostnik11:  ive never seen it auto-change
[05:25] <dr_willis> the installer checksand suggests.. but ive nevver seen it auto-change
[05:25] <apb1963_> I guess I have video card issues... lightdm gave me a bunch of horizontal lines
[05:26] <dr_willis> apb1963_:  weird.. since you saw a wallpaper.
[05:26] <apb1963_> yes
[05:26] <ghostnik11> dr_willis, so i have to do it manually then, okay
[05:26] <dr_willis> determina your video card with the 'lspci' command
[05:27] <apb1963_> VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI RV370 5B60 [Radeon X300 (PCIE)]
[05:27] <dr_willis> so the ati fglrs drivers may or may not work for that card
[05:27] <dr_willis> fglrx
[05:28] <ghostnik11> dr_willis, i think its trying to figure it out from network but i am on a new network and not the one that i was on yesterday
[05:28] <apb1963_> I'm voting on "not"
[05:28] <dr_willis> i dont use ati any mre. so i dont keep u with them
[05:28] <apb1963_> unless you're saying I need to install
[05:28] <dr_willis> i dont keep up with them.. ;)
[05:29] <dr_willis> the fglrx drivers are NOT installed by default.
[05:29] <apb1963_> o i c
[05:29] <dr_willis> the open sourced ati drivers are
[05:29] <dr_willis> !fglrx
[05:29] <ghostnik11> dr_willis, this is strange when i go into time and date to change the time, it changes it back and won't let me
[05:30] <dr_willis> ghostnik11:  perhaps check askubuntu.com - i cant recall ever changeing the time in years. ;)
[05:30] <dr_willis> not since indiana went to  est with DST
[05:33] <apb1963_> Is this a match?  Msi X300 se  It says "RV370" same as mine... but obviously mine doesn't say MSI so I'd guess "no".  Your take please?
[05:34] <Muny> Does anyone here know how I could proxy connections from a server with no firewall to a server with a firewall (unable to portforward)?
[05:36] <apb1963_> I think I found it at http://free3d.org/
[05:36] <Muny> Does anyone here know how I could proxy connections from a server with no firewall to a server with a firewall (unable to portforward)?
[05:36] <dr_willis> msi is a brand. the actual chipset is whats imporntant
[05:37] <apb1963_> ATI RV370 5B60 [Radeon X300 (PCIE)]      AMD Athlon™ 64 X2 4200+ (1GHz)
[05:37] <dr_willis> Muny:  ssh tunnles perhaps.   they are handy for lots of  cases.
[05:37] <apb1963_> That looks like a better match
[05:38] <ghostnik11> dr_willis, thanks askubuntu said ntpd and ntp then went to date and time and got a chance to switch city. thanks bro
[05:38] <Muny> dr_willis: Do you have a link or anything that explains how I could use an SSH tunnel in my case?
[05:38] <dr_willis> !ssh
[05:38] <b0rg> hello i have a question im looking at going to linux and walking away from windows any suggestions for new users in regurads to linux i have been reading on the web and thier is quite a few to say the least
[05:38] <phaedra> Muny: Also you might want to ask that in #ubuntu-server
[05:38] <dr_willis> !manual | b0rg
[05:39] <devslash> is there a way to force all traffic thru my vpn connection and not allow it otherwise
[05:40] <b0rg> thank you
[05:41] <apb1963_> so the website I mentioned is apparently a benchmarks website for glxgears... does this mean anything to you?
[05:41] <dr_willis> glxgears is just one tool for measureing 3d preformance
[05:41] <Muny> dr_willis: Keep in mind I can't connect to the server behind the firewall from the server with no firewall...so the way I was thinking won't work
[05:42] <dr_willis> Muny:   have the server extablish the tunnel  to the other box perhaps?
[05:42] <dr_willis> reverse tunnel
[05:42] <devslash> does anyone know ?
[05:43] <Ari-Yang> glxgears isn't that good for benchmarking, that's what I heard...
[05:43] <dr_willis> i thought thats how it worked by default devslash
[05:43] <dr_willis> glexears is mor eof a test..
[05:43] <dr_willis> ots not much of a benchmark  really
[05:44] <devslash> dr_willis,  no. if i put my laptop to sleep when i wake it up, the wifi automatically reconnects but the vpn doesnt
[05:44] <Muny> dr_willis: So once I establish a tunnel from the server behind the firewall to the other server, what would I do to proxy connections to the server behind the firewall?
[05:45] <dr_willis> Muny:  not sure. ive just read guide s and seen examples. never really had to do it.
[05:46] <dr_willis> once you got a tunnel  any access to the tunnel goes to the remote on that port from what ive seen.
[05:46] <Captain_Crow>  how up to date are ubuntu's gpu drivers for opengl?
[05:46] <dr_willis> !latest
[05:50] <Captain_Crow> are ubuntu's gpu speeds with opengl reasonable though, would it be practical to make opengl games for ubuntu? is there a ubuntu game/gpu benchmarking site somewhere?
[05:51] <Muny> dr_willis: http://www.howtoforge.com/reverse-ssh-tunneling Found it there, thanks
[05:51] <boggle> I'm interested in starting with a minimal ubuntu install on my laptop and then building on it so i can try out some different DEs, etc. (like arch, without the urge to rip out my fingernails) could i just use the server iso from the website? what would i be missing by going that route, other than unity? would wifi not work out of the box, for instance?
[05:52] <netlar> Hi
[05:54] <apb1963_> Found this: "RV370  Radeon X300, M22" as the closest match and being fully supported.  But there's that M22 I don't know what that means...  mine is Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI RV370 5B60 [Radeon X300 (PCIE)] so maybe that's why I get horizontal lines?
[05:55] <frameHim> @captain_crow: ya, opengl games exist, u should try > STEAM titles like Dota 2, then decide for urself!
[06:00] <subhojit777> How can I configure notification bubble settings in Ubuntu 13.04
[06:01] <somsip> !mini | boggle
[06:23] <vnwilman> I can't install libgtk2.0-dev
[06:25] <z8z> hi guys do something like file hash db exist on the net with file info and if clean or not and other info like that?
[06:39] <BlitzHere> Hi all
[06:40] <BlitzHere> I have a problem that is described here
[06:40] <BlitzHere> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/987630
[06:41] <BlitzHere> One of the comments mentions that this solves the problem temporarily but I don't understand the instructions
[06:41] <BlitzHere> Enabling nmi_watchdog solved this temp. add /etc/rc.local echo 0 >/proc/sys/kernel/nmi_watchdog
[06:41] <alfacard>         .__                           .__         _______________ _______  ___
[06:41] <alfacard> __  _  _|  |__   ___________   ____   |__| ______ \__    ___/    |   \   \/  /
[06:41] <alfacard> \ \/ \/ /  |  \_/ __ \_  __ \_/ __ \  |  |/  ___/   |    |  |    |   /\     /
[06:41] <alfacard>  \     /|   Y  \  ___/|  | \/\  ___/  |  |\___ \    |    |  |    |  / /     \
[06:41] <alfacard>   \/\_/ |___|  /\___  >__|    \___  > |__/____  >   |____|  |______/ /___/\  "
[06:41] <FloodBot1> alfacard: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:41] <chamunks> nub
[06:42] <BlitzHere> Can anyone help?
[06:42] <BlitzHere> Thanks
[06:42] <BlitzHere> actually nevermind
[06:43] <Moscherkobold> good morning
[06:43] <Moscherkobold> ikonia: are you out there?
[06:44] <BlitzHere> I put that before the exit 0 line. I suppose that makes sense...
[06:44] <AcidRain2012> can anyone tell me  how to set transmission as the default program for torrents?
[06:46] <auronandace> AcidRain2012: rightclick a .torrent file, open with... and set the default there
[06:47] <AcidRain2012> auronandace, its not listed. where is it located at?
[06:47] <auronandace> AcidRain2012: its under the internet category
[06:48] <AcidRain2012> auronandace, i dont have any options to select 'under internet category' when im right clicking on a .torrent file
[06:48] <AcidRain2012> actually, i dont have any options at all
[06:49] <auronandace> AcidRain2012: what are you running? unity?
[06:49] <AcidRain2012> eh.. cinnamon
[06:49] <AcidRain2012> never unity
[06:49] <chamunks> why cinnamon over unity?
[06:50] <auronandace> AcidRain2012: what do you see when you rightclick? is there an open with.. option?
[06:50] <AcidRain2012> for reasons that cannot be discussed in this channel
[06:50] <chamunks> Linux Mint's desktop seemed rather immature.
[06:50] <AcidRain2012> auronandace, yes, there is.
[06:50] <chamunks> and lacking
[06:50] <AcidRain2012> auronandace, and thats the only thing i see
[06:50] <dr_willis> !find cinnamon
[06:50] <auronandace> AcidRain2012: what appears when you select it
[06:50] <dr_willis> both use nautilus - so im not sure why the options would differ
[06:50] <chamunks> Unity seems quite  ... needlessly sluggish in some cases but for the most part
[06:50] <AcidRain2012> auronandace, a directory listing in my home folder
[06:50] <chamunks> in some cases.
[06:51] <chamunks> idk
[06:51] <auronandace> AcidRain2012: show us a screenshot
[06:51] <chamunks> but I quite enjoy it it seems fairly forward thinking.
[06:51] <dr_willis> askubuntu.com may have some guides on selecting the defaults for .torrents in other ways
[06:52] <Kartagis> I have uim, uim-anthy and anthy installed but uim doesn't allow me to use anthy for im -- it's not in the list. any ideas?
[06:52] <BlitzHere> exit
[06:52] <chamunks> AcidRain2012,  mind if I PM you?
[06:52] <xavious> Having a bit of trouble with gmusicbrowser. States I need plugins. Wondering as to how to obtain them. A basic repository was provided, but not too certain as to how to utilize it. Any help?
[06:52] <AcidRain2012> auronandace, where can i send screenshot to?
[06:52] <chamunks> I'm quite curious about your reasoning.
[06:52] <AcidRain2012> chamunks, sure
[06:52] <auronandace> !screenshot | AcidRain2012
[06:53] <AcidRain2012> http://imagebin.org/268261
[06:54] <touristtam> hi just a quick noobish question: can I downgrade from 12.10 to 12.04 LTS ? did the upgrade by mistake (unclear message and years of windows usage did the trick :/ )
[06:54] <auronandace> AcidRain2012: i wanted to see the screen after you click choose
[06:54] <AcidRain2012> auronandace, sorry :/ hang on
[06:54] <auronandace> touristtam: no
[06:54] <dr_willis> err.. thats  saing for magnet links. not .torrent files
[06:55] <wilee-nilee> touristtam, You will have to do a fresh install to get 12.04 back, there is 13.04 as well.
[06:55] <dr_willis> touristtam:  may as well go on to 13.04 ;)
[06:55] <AcidRain2012> http://imagebin.org/268262
[06:56] <xavious> Just need a little advice on obtaining the proper plugins for gmusicbrowser so it will actually play music...any help?
[06:56] <auronandace> AcidRain2012: what is the output of cat /etc/issue
[06:56] <AcidRain2012> dr_willis, so what is stopping ubuntu from doing a normal update? and just keep updating. why do they insist on doing full upgrade?
[06:56] <touristtam> feth me, I am raging right now, can't remember seeing any mention of upgrade to 12.10 in that partial upgrade message .... it doesnt make me feel very confident in using ubuntu
[06:56] <AcidRain2012> Ubuntu 12.04.2 LTS \n \l
[06:57] <auronandace> AcidRain2012: torrent files already open with transmission by default on 12.04
[06:57] <AcidRain2012> dr_willis, so issues like what touristtam is talking about wont happen. because i too once suffered from such
[06:57] <dr_willis> normally it asks for LTS to LTS or fro one NON lts to the next.. Unless you check some check box for it to ask for lts -> nonlts
[06:57] <coder2> Hello. I've just confirmed last auto-update on my laptop. It delivers new kernel linux-image-3.2.0-52-generic (was 3.2.0-51) and fglrx-updates/amdccle-updates. The update broke display brightness control. Please help me to fix this.
[06:57] <AcidRain2012> auronandace, when i click on a torrent file, weather it be a file, or a link, it shows me the first picture that i showed u
[06:57] <dr_willis> AcidRain2012:  if that optcion is checked.. it will ask for LTS to non lts.
[06:59] <touristtam> dr_willis: do you know where would that pesky checkbox be?
[06:59] <auronandace> AcidRain2012: cinnamon is not supported on 12.04 anyway
[06:59] <dr_willis> touristtam:  you checked it at one time.. its not the default.  Not sure where its at
[06:59] <dr_willis> normally people ask where its at to enable it.
[07:00] <xavious> No advice for obtaining gmusicbrowser plugins?
[07:00] <touristtam> coolio, I ll look it up, but that feel like a british gov policy to me :p
[07:01] <karab44> Hello
[07:02] <dr_willis> moo
[07:02] <karab44> I have a real problem now, one of my Ubuntu desktops wont upgrade from 11.10 to 12.04 LTS, when updating says can not update sourcelist
[07:05] <psy^_> pokpokpok
[07:07] <coder2> thanks anyway
[07:07] <wilee-nilee> !eol | karab44 read carefully
[07:08] <karab44> great isn't it why I want to upgrade to supported version?
[07:08] <wilee-nilee> karab44, You have to use a end of life upgrade the link tells you how.
[07:09] <bluenemo> hi guys. i've installed ubuntu server 12.04 on a server ;) and did a loadkeys us for setup. now when I loadkeys de I get a unknown charset unicode - ignoring charset request, loadkeys loads the right file but nothing happens. dpkg-reconfigure console-{data,keyboard-configuration} doesn't bring any result either. how do I change the system default back to german layout?
[07:09] <karab44> you know why I won't to upgrade? because of quuite old and slow computer but now... I just considered it would be better to do this
[07:10] <wilee-nilee> karab44, What is this?
[07:10] <karab44> system upgrade
[07:11] <karab44> the upgrade is avaliable but after I click Yes I get errors
[07:11] <mirko_> I am facing a weird internet connection problem and I don't even know how to find some useful logs for it. Basically I am connected to my home network through wifi using wicd, I can access with either firefox or chrome any page at decent speed, but both browsers hang forever when I try to connect on some websites like Gmail and Facebook. Can this be related with cookies or https connecstions? is there a way to find some u
[07:11] <mirko_> seful log informations? on the wicd log nothing happen and I don't know how to log the firefox connections during a connection attempt... thanks!
[07:11] <sigtest> nihao
[07:11] <touristtam> thanks again for the quick answer. have a ncie one :)
[07:11] <wilee-nilee> karab44, I'm not sure what the problem is, you have to follow a specific path on an eol to uprade, this link tells you how.
[07:11] <sigtest> nihaoma
[07:11] <sigtest2> sigtest zaina
[07:12] <wilee-nilee> karab44, The upgrade in the upgrade gui will not work.
[07:15] <karab44> I see
[07:19] <wilee-nilee> karab44, This link shows the same info but a little clearer. http://www.westernwillow.com/cms/blog/franco/upgrading-old-or-end-life-eol-release-ubuntu-back-usefulness
[07:19] <crazyhorse> i'm runnning google chrome under ubutnu
[07:19] <crazyhorse> quite often when i open tabs or switch tabs it lags, or shows blank pages
[07:19] <crazyhorse> is this normal?
[07:19] <crazyhorse> this is also for tabs i've already visted and opened
[07:23] <wilee-nilee> crazyhorse, Does not sound normal, I suspect chrome has a reset like firefox you might loo on the web.
[07:23] <wilee-nilee> look
[07:26] <wilee-nilee> crazyhorse, I found this backup your bookmarks first to be safe. http://en.kioskea.net/faq/6361-reset-your-browser-restore-your-browser-to-default-settings#how-to-reset-google-chrome
[07:29] <crazyhorse> wilee-nilee: thanks i'll give it a try
[07:30] <wilee-nilee> no problem
[07:40] <hilarie> I am running under live with persistance, is there anyway to change how much a mouse clickwheel scrolls down?
[07:55] <neopsyche> hi all
[07:56] <HisaoNakai> !hi
[07:57] <neopsyche> Hi all, im having a problem with wireless that was disconnecting after a few minutes (atheros) and not accepting WPA, i did kernel backport as mentioned in a forum.. now wireless not showing on connections tab (ubuntu 13.04)
[07:59] <Nakkivene> Im trying to make a game with bash
[08:00] <neopsyche> Nakkivene, bash your head against the wall till its not fun anymore. :-)
[08:00] <neopsyche> (joke)
[08:01] <Myrtti> Nakkivene: _with_ bash, or for commandline
[08:01] <Nakkivene> bash
[08:03] <Myrtti> ok
[08:08] <HisaoNakai> !hello
[08:11] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[08:13] <joshuag> hello
[08:13] <joshuag> need help
[08:14] <joshuag> i need help
[08:14] <blazemore> !ask
[08:14] <joshuag> how do u disable visual effects and switch display drivers in ubuntu
[08:14] <ZIPY> joshuag: just ask your question and be patient if it doesnt get answered  fast
[08:16] <ZIPY> joshuag: what visual effects?
[08:16] <joshuag> windows
[08:16] <htaccess> hello there, i am running 12.04, steam sugested i upgrade invidia drivers and now i am booting to a black screen with a flashing cursor, have tried a bunch of google suggestions, looking for help to get x running
[08:16] <joshuag> i think their causeing my ubuntu to frezze
[08:19] <joshuag> how do i do it in command line
[08:20] <joshuag> does it hurt a computer to restart alot
[08:21] <joshuag> cuz i only get like a few mins before it frezzes while in gui
[08:21] <joshuag> command line works good
[08:21] <joshuag> but once it frezzes i cant do a single thing to restart other than to power on and off
[08:22] <wilee-nilee> joshuag, Has this happened since you installed?
[08:22] <joshuag> yea
[08:22] <wilee-nilee> joshuag, Whewn did you install, and how have you been powering of when freezing?
[08:22] <ActionParsnip> joshuag: have you tested RAM health using MemTest86+ from Grub
[08:23] <joshuag> no
[08:23] <joshuag> well just the power button on the computer
[08:23] <joshuag> and my memory should be ok
[08:24] <wilee-nilee> !reisub | joshuag
[08:24] <joshuag> if i could remmber that
[08:25] <wilee-nilee> joshuag, Power button is a hard shutdown and not a good thing in general, what is the hardware the chip and ram amount?
[08:25] <joshuag> hold on let me wright it down
[08:27] <joshuag> what chip u mean
[08:27] <joshuag> cpu
[08:27] <joshuag> or chipset
[08:29] <joshuag> i do have performance ram and its 24gigs
[08:30] <joshuag> cpu is intel 960 socket 1366
[08:30] <joshuag> chipset is x58
[08:31] <wilee-nilee> joshuag, So the computer is new enough in general, thats all I was trying to confirm
[08:32] <wilee-nilee> you might do a memory check though this can be a game of knocking out variables to find the cause.
[08:33] <joshuag> ok i will brb
[08:42] <Veidit> Good evning, is there some good way to change to the linux-virtual kernel after installation? GRUB still picks the generic instead.
[08:44] <Veidit> Well I should say good morning :)
[08:51] <Rad_Ahemn> Hi there - looking for a network guru to answer why when my ubuntu box joins my wireless network it works but nothing else on the network does...
[08:52] <bazhang> Rad_Ahemn, what are the others, since Ubuntu one is working
[08:53] <Rad_Ahemn> bazhang, win 7 and 8
[08:53] <bazhang> Rad_Ahemn, try in ##windows
[08:54] <jjavaholic> I seem to have uninstalled unity and can't seem to get it installed again.
[08:54] <bazhang> jjavaholic, uninstalled how exactly, details needed
[08:55] <neetz> Hey , I reinstalled windows 7 and Ubuntu 12.04 on my system 2 days back. Both OS were working fine . Yesterday I  Installed Nvidia Graphic card on windows 7  and I switched to ubuntu after rebooting it , ubuntu did not boot ( it says nouvea i2wc faill .... ). I have installed ubuntu on a seperate partition
[08:55] <jjavaholic> sudo apt-get remove unity I think
[08:55] <neetz> Hey , I reinstalled windows 7 and Ubuntu 12.04 on my system 2 days back. Both OS were working fine . Yesterday I  Installed Nvidia Graphic card on windows 7  and I switched to ubuntu after rebooting it , ubuntu did not boot ( it says nouvea i2wc faill .... ). I have installed ubuntu on a seperate partition
[08:55] <bazhang> !info unity
[08:56] <bazhang> jjavaholic, so reinstall it
[08:56] <jjavaholic> the output from apt-cache policy unity is: http://pastebin.com/M9qHA2Uz
[08:56] <jjavaholic> whenever I try to I get an unmet dependency.
[08:56] <Rad_Ahemn> thanks bazhang
[08:57] <neetz> can anyone help me please]
[08:57] <neetz> Hey , I reinstalled windows 7 and Ubuntu 12.04 on my system 2 days back. Both OS were working fine . Yesterday I  Installed Nvidia Graphic card on windows 7  and I switched to ubuntu after rebooting it , ubuntu did not boot ( it says nouvea i2wc faill .... ). I have installed ubuntu on a seperate partition
[08:57] <jjavaholic> unity : Depends: libunity-core-6.0-5 (= 7.0.0daily13.06.19~13.04-0ubuntu1) but it is not going to be installed
[08:58] <neetz> Hey , I reinstalled windows 7 and Ubuntu 12.04 on my system 2 days back. Both OS were working fine . Yesterday I  Installed Nvidia Graphic card on windows 7  and I switched to ubuntu after rebooting it , ubuntu did not boot ( it says nouvea i2wc faill .... ). I have installed ubuntu on a seperate partition
[08:59] <jjavaholic> even with a sudo apt-get install -f unity that still fails with unmet dependencies.
[09:00] <bazhang> jjavaholic, got some 3rd party PPA in there?
[09:01] <jjavaholic> heaps of them
[09:01] <bazhang> likely they are the culprits
[09:01] <bazhang> ppa-purge the m one by one and find out, or use something other than unity, like gnome-shell plus its extensions
[09:02] <bazhang> !ppa-purge
[09:03] <jjavaholic> won't that get rid of the apps that some of of the apps rely on being in place? them
[09:05] <helmut_> hi
[09:06] <bazhang> they are 3rd party PPA, why would they. heaps of them is just a recipe for disaster
[09:07] <jjavaholic> getting a list of the ppa identifier is done how?
[09:08] <blubberdi> Hi, can someone please tell me if (and how) I can make `apt-get install foo bar blub` without marking the packages as manually installed if they aren't already marked. I want to upgrade some packages (but not all).
[09:08] <hildebrandus> Does anyone have any experience in using ubuntu on the pandaboard?
[09:14] <hildebrandus> has anybody used ubuntu on pandaboard here?
[09:14] <ikonia> I don't believe it works due to the wrong arm version,
[09:14] <ikonia> could be wrong on that though
[09:15] <hildebrandus> I have got a working console in my serial port console but not getting anything in the display.
[09:16] <hildebrandus> giving startx says already some display is available.
[09:18] <jjavaholic> finding the correct PPA URIS for Purge-ppa is done how?
[09:19] <somsip> !ppa | jjavaholic
[09:19] <somsip> jjavaholic: so, do some searching on there
[09:19] <ikonia> hildebrandus: is the pandaboard a differnt arm version than the pi then ?
[09:22] <hildebrandus> pandaboard has an omap 4460 chip on it. Its a Corex-A9 dual core chip. Should be similar.
[09:22] <hildebrandus> I got the image from linaro.org
[09:23] <peter1210> i have window 7, Ubuntu and Windows xp installed and using Grub to boot. i reinstalled Windows 7 and now Windows XP can't boot. it says ntldr is missing but the file is there
[09:23] <ikonia> peter1210: the guys in ##windows can help you fix that
[09:23] <hildebrandus> ikonia: which version is the pi? I have never used it.
[09:23] <ikonia> hildebrandus: 2
[09:23] <peter1210> but i am using grub
[09:24] <ikonia> peter1210: grub isn't complaining ntldr is missing - the windows boot loader is, your chainloading the windows boot loader
[09:24] <ikonia> peter1210: grub doesn't know/care about ntldr
[09:24] <k1l> hildebrandus: i think you will have more feedback in #ubuntu-arm to arm related issues
[09:25] <hildebrandus> I wasn't aware of that channel. Thanks k1l
[09:26] <peter1210> i thought someone else may had this problem too on triple boot install
[09:28] <pranav> is there a software in ubuntu in which I can write control statements to move my mouse and make clips when necessary ?
[09:28] <hildebrandus> peter1210: is your windows boot setting having the xp details?
[09:28] <pranav> on the screen
[09:28] <ikonia> peter1210: ##windows can help you sort your windows boot loader out
[09:30] <hildebrandus> pranav have you tried xdotool
[09:31] <pranav> hildebrandus: thanks :)
[09:31] <hildebrandus> you're most welcome pranav
[09:33] <pranav> I want to read the pixel colors on the screen, maybe store then in 2D-array, and then again use the information to move my mouse and click on the points ? :D
[09:35] <ActionParsnip> pranav: http://tuxradar.com/content/xdotool-script-your-mouse
[09:36] <Atlantic777> My wired network interface eth0 just dissapeared. It worked few days ago. I have lenovo thinkpad edte e420 laptop and it uses r8169 driver. Here's part of dmesg which seems to have relevant messages: https://paste.lugons.org/show/4ygzxLMdrtAazJD2XlsT/
[09:41] <pranav> ActionParsnip: Thanks :)
[09:42] <xkernel> what is the most secure IRC application server?
[09:42] <rixon> c
[09:43] <rixon> hi all
[09:43] <Bigsista> hi. short question on 12.04 ltss kernels: i compared kernel configs for Ubuntu 3.5.0-39.60~precise1-generic and Ubuntu 3.2.0-52.78-virtual. seems both have xen-pv support enabled. so which kernel is preffredd to run on a xen domU?
[09:43] <mirko_> I am facing a weird internet connection problem and I don't even know how to find some useful logs for it. Basically I am connected to my home network through wifi using wicd, I can access with either firefox or chrome any page at decent speed, but both browsers hang forever when I try to connect on some websites like Gmail and Facebook. Can this be related with cookies or https connections? is there a way to find some us
[09:43] <mirko_> eful log informations? on the wicd log nothing happen and I don't know how to log the firefox connections during a connection attempt... thanks!
[09:43] <rixon> i would need some help
[09:43] <rixon> i have 12.04 ubuntu
[09:44] <ikonia> rixon: explain the problem, and people will tyr to help
[09:44] <gry> Ask on one line please and thank you.
[09:44] <rixon> and i tryed to install league of legends on it with playonlinux/winehq
[09:44] <rixon> it works fine but at loading screen it crash:s
[09:44] <ikonia> and there is your problem, playonlinux/winehq
[09:44] <k1l> !wine | rixon
[09:44] <bazhang> rixon, #winehq for that
[09:44] <rixon> okay
[09:45] <rixon> thx for help
[09:45] <Jahm> Hi
[09:46] <Jahm> Can anyone help me with the wifi of my Asus EEEPC 1000H please?
[09:46] <Bigsista> anyone on the kernel thing?
[09:46] <ikonia> Bigsista: what kernel thing ?
[09:46] <Bigsista> hi. short question on 12.04 ltss kernels: i compared kernel configs for Ubuntu 3.5.0-39.60~precise1-generic and Ubuntu 3.2.0-52.78-virtual. seems both have xen-pv support enabled. so which kernel is preffredd to run on a xen domU?
[09:47] <ikonia> Bigsista: virtual is meant for guests I believe
[09:53] <Jahm> Anyone?
[09:54] <hildebrandus> yes, iahm?
[09:54] <Jahm> I have an Asus EEEPC 1000H but my WiFi won't work
[09:54] <bazhang> Jahm, whats the chipset for that eeepc 1000h wifi
[09:54] <hildebrandus> i mean jahm
[09:55] <Jahm> Wait gonna boot my laptop
[09:55] <Jahm> I checked my BIOS, and WLAN was disabled
[09:55] <hildebrandus> Is any firmware required for your wlan?
[09:56] <Jahm> So
[09:56] <Jahm> Still won't work
[09:56] <k1l> Jahm: please pastebin the ooutput of "sudo rfkill list"
[09:57] <bazhang> Jahm, whats the chipset as I asked
[09:57] <hildebrandus> which ubuntu are you using? You must enable wlan in your laptop and ensure it is ON.
[09:58] <Kartagis> I have uim, uim-anthy and anthy installed but uim doesn't allow me to use anthy for im -- it's not in the list. any ideas?
[09:58] <xkernel> Rhythmbox is not adding mp3s to the library
[09:59] <hildebrandus> In 12.04 wifi works out of the box. old versions had some issue I believe.
[09:59] <Jahm> hildebrandus: 12.04LTS and Idk why it's not working out of the box
[10:00] <Jahm> k1l: http://pastebin.com/bV7bgfkT
[10:00] <Jahm> bazhang: how do I check my chipset please?
[10:00] <k1l> Jahm:  Soft blocked: yes
[10:00] <Jahm> k1l: what does that mean?
[10:00] <hildebrandus> see if this page gives some help: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EeePC/Fixes
[10:01] <k1l> Jahm: press the fn shortcut printed on your keyboard to activate it
[10:02] <Jahm> My WiFi is already lit blue
[10:02] <Jahm> It doesn't turn off when fn+F2 (WiFi switch)
[10:03] <Jahm> Oh there
[10:03] <Jahm> Thanks k1l :*
[10:03] <Jahm> hildebrandus: thanks for the help as well
[10:03] <hildebrandus> you're most welcome jahm
[10:05] <mirko_> can anybody help with my internet connection problem written before? I ve searched a lot but without luck. even using a safe mode and clean profile on firefox and trying with a terminal browser I cannot access webistes like gmail, google calendar (connection last forerever then stops)
[10:11] <xwalk> what is this
[10:11] <brucewhealton> Hello all...  I'm looking for help with networking on ubuntu.  For example, how could I get a message that says there is no internet connection when I am browsing and using the internet on my Ubuntu box?  I first installed Ubuntu Server then added the Kubuntu desktop
[10:11] <bazhang> !irc > xwalk
[10:12] <k1l> brucewhealton: you were here yesterday, too?
[10:12] <brucewhealton> k1l: No, I haven't been here in a long while
[10:13] <k1l> brucewhealton: on a server the network is handeled by the /etc/network/interfaces and not the Networkmanager.  if you want the NM to handle the networking comment out the devices in the interfaces file (except the "lo" one)
[10:13] <brucewhealton> I was trying to find my IP address on the internet network for my ubuntu system
[10:17] <brucewhealton> So, do I run a command called interfaces
[10:17] <k1l> no
[10:18] <brucewhealton> I don't know if it is a desktop app or a terminal command
[10:18] <k1l> it is a configuration file
[10:19] <brucewhealton> Oh, ok
[10:20] <brucewhealton> so, how do I find the IP assigned to the ubuntu server - the internal IP?
[10:21] <k1l> if you just want to know the ip type "ifconfig"
[10:21] <BluesKaj> HI folks
 thanks
[10:24] <brucewhealton> I'd like to assign a permanent IP address within my network... Is that a setting in the config file?
[10:27] <brucewhealton> I had it setup with a domain name that can be accessed locally and on the web.  Now, that domain is not coming up in the browser
[10:28] <ikonia> brucewhealton: depends if you want to remove your machine from dhcp or if you want to assign a satic mapping in the dhcp server
[10:29] <codephobic> hi,
[10:30] <codephobic> just recently I've been having a lot of problems with a virtualbox windows 7 guest.
[10:30] <codephobic> it randomly freezes up and sometimes reboots
[10:30] <bazhang> codephobic, try #vbox
[10:30] <codephobic> bazhang, I'm trying to figure out whether it is ubuntu specific
[10:31] <codephobic> my host is ubuntu 13.04 and virtualbox is 4.2.16
[10:31] <gry> suppose just try on a fresh setup with a different OS to figure that out, rather than ask at the distro channel
[10:31] <codephobic> k
[10:32] <brucewhealton> I think my web hosting provider did something unexpected.  All my forwarding rules, set in the router config are now set to 0.0.0.0 and not the external IP address.  They also changed the username for my network.
[10:33] <gry> change them back and save in the iptables config file
[10:33] <gry> possibly also contact your host to ask what's up i guess
[10:33] <BluesKaj> codephobic, do you have windows updates on auto , if so you may be running out of resources at times
[10:35] <codephobic> BluesKaj, I do but I should be ok for resources, I have 16GB of RAM and an ok cpu
[10:35] <tuxxxer> hello all. i have a problem during apt-get update "W: GPG error: http://mirrors.dotsrc.org precise-getdeb Release: "
[10:35] <brucewhealton> I was curious about how popular newsgroups are...  My ISP stopped supporting newsgroups years ago.  I would ask for anyone's feedback on the popularity of newsgroups
[10:36] <tuxxxer> what should i do to fix it?
[10:36] <BluesKaj> codephobic, how much RAM and disk space is assigned to VB?
[10:36] <k1l> !ot | brucewhealton
[10:37] <codephobic> BluesKaj, I set 4GB of RAM and 2 cores plus 60GB disk for the windows 7 guest
[10:38] <BluesKaj> codephobic, do you have guest additions installed too ?
[10:38] <codephobic> BluesKaj, yep
[10:39] <brucewhealton> sorry about that.  I was wondering what resources exist for getting support for Ubuntu
[10:39] <SLayeRDK> question: is there a failsafe boot option for 12.04 _
[10:39] <k1l> brucewhealton: irc, askubuntu, ubuntu forums, local groups, commercial support by canonical,...
[10:40] <codephobic> BluesKaj, it's a very recent issue (5-6 days) of instability and I found that setting the screen size smaller (1920*1200 native, VM is at 1680*1050) reduced the frequency of crashes... but I can't figure out why it is happening at all.
[10:40] <brucewhealton> cool...
[10:41] <codephobic> this is why I suspected that it was a recent ubuntu 13.04 update issue, as I've had quite a few "glitches" occur with this iteration of ubuntu.
[10:41] <BluesKaj> codephobic, I'm not real impressed with VB gtaphics driver , dunno why VB can't use the same driver as ubuintu
[10:42] <BluesKaj> err graphics
[10:43] <paul_beginner> hi
[10:43] <brucewhealton> so, what about issues related to configuring email in Ubuntu?  I need a mta to send email, so can someone recommend an email server for Ubuntu?  I know only about Exim.
[10:43] <codephobic> BluesKaj, yeah that's something I found odd too. Googled a bit and the best answer I found (and have probably misunderstood) is that it would give VBox direct access to the graphics engine and thus mean that it could bring down the whole system ...
[10:43] <BluesKaj> codephobic, or windows version
[10:44] <BluesKaj> of the same driver
[10:44] <codephobic> BluesKaj, I don't use windows much but it might be worth installing ubuntu in VBox in a host W7 rather than the way I'm going.
[10:45] <codephobic> to be honest, I used to much prefer ubuntu, faster, robust and leaner -  allowed me to run 4 headless VMs and learn all sorts of things.
[10:45] <alex___> hi , when i change my icon theme , icon on the top right ( battery , wireless and audio ) take an ugly theme
[10:45] <codephobic> now I find Windows 7 is probably a good deal more stable than Ubuntu 13 and also less of a resource drain.
[10:45] <BluesKaj> codephobic, well asking in vbox looks like the next step
[10:46] <codephobic> BluesKaj, thanks for the responses  :) I've asked there too ... but it's a bit dead in there.
[10:46] <alex___> anyone :p
[10:46] <ActionPa1snip> alex___: wassup?
[10:46] <alex___> hi , when i change my icon theme , icon on the top right ( battery , wireless and audio ) take an ugly theme
[10:47] <BluesKaj> codephobic, I have W7 on a separate drive and IME it draws more resources than ubuntu 13.04
[10:47] <Kartagis> I have uim, uim-anthy and anthy installed but uim doesn't allow me to use anthy for im -- it's not in the list. any ideas?
[10:47] <mike2135> how do i control wifi from the CLI?
[10:48] <mike2135> without killing myself
[10:48] <alex___> someone have the same bug / problem
[10:49] <SLayeRDK> is there a failsafe boot option for 12.04 ?
[10:49] <alex___> SlayeRDK yep
[10:50] <red> Heya, I added a new user and added bash as it's default with chsh -s /bin/bash username
[10:50] <red> but the default abbreviations like "ll" don't work on that account and the coloring things that ls -l etc. have are not available
[10:50] <red> how do I make it identical to default?
[10:50] <alex___> how can i change the indicator icon
[10:50] <tuxxxer> hello all. i have a problem during apt-get update "W: GPG error: http://mirrors.dotsrc.org precise-getdeb Release: "
[10:51] <tuxxxer> what should i do to fix it?
[10:51] <hildebrandus> mike2135: iwlist and iwconfig commands are available which you can read about.
[10:52] <mike2135> something like wifi-menu for arch?
[10:52] <alex___> mike2135 =="" ubuntu not arch here
[10:53] <tuxxxer> any suggestion?
[10:53] <ikonia> tuxxxer: contact the get-deb maintainers and ask them to provide/fix their gpg key
[10:57] <red> ok solved something but a followup:
[10:58] <red> If I ssh into my ubuntu box on a new user, the .bashrc file isn't loaded automaticly (if I source .bashrc I get the goodness working but why isnt it automatic\how to fix?)
[10:58] <ikonia> red: look at .bash_profile
[10:58] <red> what am i looking at in there
[10:58] <ikonia> if that calls .bashrc
[10:59] <dik> hi
[10:59] <dik> i wana know does apache _ mod_selinux works in ubuntu
[10:59] <ikonia> dik: if you setup and configure selinux in ubuntu it will do
[11:00] <ikonia> dik: selinux isn't configured by default in ubuntu
[11:00] <red> ikonia: so I add "source .bashrc" therE?
[11:00] <dik> i have configured it but i am asking about mod_selinux for apache on ubuntu
[11:00] <ActionPa1snip> alex___: tried logging off and on?
[11:00] <ikonia> red: try it....
[11:01] <ikonia> dik: yes, it should work fine.
[11:01] <ikonia> dik: the distro shouldn't matter
[11:01] <red> ikonia: worked
[11:01] <red> thanks
[11:02] <dik> actually i have enabled selinnux in my system and apache also
[11:02] <alex___> ActionPa1snip in fact when i change icon's theme , top right icon ( battery , wireless ... )take a basic ugly theme
[11:02] <dik> apache.pp (policy module) is also loaded. now tell me what is the procedure to configure apache with mod_selinux?
[11:03] <burg> hello. i have ubuntu 13.04 64bit. after the last update my usb stick is not detected anymore
[11:05] <alex___> ActionPa1snip not work
[11:05] <cfhowlett> burg, test the stick in a different machine.  they do break down.  or test a different stick in your 13.04
[11:06] <burg> cfhowlett, after about 1 minute, if i type dmesg | tail -n10 i can see: usb 2-1.6: reset high-speed USB device number 4 using ehci-pci
[11:06] <burg> if i plug it in in an usb3.0 port i get the same type of answer
[11:06] <dik> actually i have enabled selinnux in my system and apache also	apache.pp (policy module) is also loaded. now tell me what is the procedure to configure apache with mod_selinux?
[11:06] <burg> the problem is similar to this one: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=1311661
[11:07] <jjavaholic> I found the offending PPA thanks guys.
[11:12] <burg> cfhowlett, any idea?
[11:12] <ravi_> hi
[11:14] <ActionPa1snip> alex___: are other themes ok
[11:14] <cfhowlett> burg, sorry, no idea.  state details and ask the channel again.  someone smarter than I will know.
[11:15] <alex___> 1ctionPalsnip : theme problem with other theme ( the icon's take a basical theme (ugly ))
[11:15] <neopsyche> can anyone help me remove backport kernal package and revert to old packages
[11:15] <neopsyche> (original packages)
[11:16] <neopsyche> msg: supergreg hi
[11:17] <dik> actually i have enabled selinnux in my system and apache also
[11:17] <dik> 	dik	apache.pp (policy module) is also loaded. now tell me what is the procedure to configure apache with mod_selinux?
[11:17] <dik> 	alex___	ActionPa1snip in fac
[11:17] <dik> actually i have enabled selinnux in my system and apache also
[11:17] <dik> 	dik	apache.pp (policy module) is also loaded. now tell me what is the procedure to configure apache with mod_selinux?
[11:17] <dik> 	alex___	ActionPa1snip in fac
[11:17] <FloodBot1> dik: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:19] <paul_beginner> hi guys. what does tar xvzf mean?/do?
[11:19] <auronandace> paul_beginner: man tar
[11:21] <paul_beginner> hmm. .ok so I use tar xvzf "filename" to specifie a file that I want to work with?
[11:22] <MonkeyDust> paul_beginner  tar is similar to zip, what do you want to do?
[11:23] <paul_beginner> i have a tar.gz file and I want to run it. I'm day 1 beginner level with ubuntu/linux :)
[11:24] <auronandace> paul_beginner: you don't run tar files, they are archives
[11:24] <auronandace> !software | paul_beginner
[11:24] <k1l> paul_beginner: is there a reason you dont use the programs that ubuntu ships with the package system?
[11:24] <paul_beginner> not sure what that means. sry
[11:25] <paul_beginner> I'll check the help page. thanks bot
[11:25] <MonkeyDust> paul_beginner  the x in that line means extract, as unzip http://linuxmanpages.com/man1/tar.1.php
[11:25] <paul_beginner> ahh
[11:25] <mathnode> paul_beginner, did you download an application of somekind?
[11:25] <paul_beginner> only the tar zippd file
[11:26] <mathnode> paul_beginner, have you tried looking in the Ubuntu Software Centre, for the application?
[11:26] <k1l> paul_beginner: other that windows, where you install stuff you loaded from websites, ubuntu got a software system, which brings alot of programs. they are to prefer because they are already made working with ubuntu
[11:26] <paul_beginner> okay I'll check that too
[11:27] <paul_beginner> ty
[11:33] <MonkeyDust> paul_beginner  do you know what repos are?
[11:33] <paul_beginner> no
[11:33] <paul_beginner> what is it?
[11:34] <auronandace> !repos | paul_beginner
[11:35] <DJones> paul_beginner: In simple terms, the Ubuntu repo's are similar to Apple's app store, its a library of applications that have been preconfigured to install and run on Ubuntu through a couple of simple commands or using the Software Centre application to search through & install from
[11:36] <mike2135> im trying to run nm-applet on its own in another wm
[11:36] <mike2135> besides the gnome default
[11:36] <gisli> when attempting to install a package from backports, how can I see which version of the package is in backport?
[11:36] <mike2135> and these random errors crop up...  Could not create object for /org/freedesktop/NetworkManager/ActiveConnection/6: Method "GetAll" with signature "s" on interface "org.freedesktop.DBus.Properties" doesn't exist
[11:36] <mike2135> when i try to connect to a network..i googled it with only useless results...anyone know this prob?
[11:38] <wilee-nilee> gisli, I use synaptic to see whats in the repos in general.
[11:38] <paul_beginner> deerp I found the program on the SoftwareCenter ;D thank ya'll for the help
[11:39] <wilee-nilee> mike2135, So what is the main desktop you have and the secondary one, and whts the goal here?
[11:40] <mike2135> xmonad is the main, it's gnome by default
[11:40] <wilee-nilee> there are 3 gnome based dsktops at the least
[11:40] <mike2135> uh... 13..04
[11:40] <mike2135> how else do you mean
[11:41] <mike2135> i think it's actually unity by default
[11:41] <wilee-nilee> mike2135, Are you calling unity, the fallbacl or the gnome shell gnome?
[11:41] <mike2135> calling gnome gnome
[11:41] <mike2135> forget i said that
[11:41] <wilee-nilee> mike2135, the gnome shell in login is called gnome.
[11:42] <mike2135> oh, excuse me - no, i boot into 'text'
[11:42] <mike2135> and startx into xmonad
[11:43] <aneesh_> Is it possible to recover the files which are merged using tar command
[11:43] <aneesh_> ?
[11:43] <mike2135> aneesh_: what?
[11:43] <mike2135> perhaps tar -xvvf?
[11:44] <aneesh_> while untrarring the one folder it got merged with old folder . That time all my file got merged
[11:44] <mike2135> perhaps the "find" utility will help you ?
[11:45] <mike2135> find by date, find by name...
[11:45] <mike2135> you can also add an exec command onto the end of find, aka, "move to folder xx "
[11:45] <aneesh_> but I am not able to find my old files
[11:46] <mike2135> http://www.howtogeek.com/168164/move-files-into-one-directory-in-linux-with-find/
[11:46] <mike2135> were they overwritten?
[11:46] <aneesh_> yes :(
[11:46] <mike2135> nothing important i hope then ..
[11:47] <aneesh_> It very important files
[11:47] <mike2135> aneesh_: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/11381683/how-to-recover-a-file-overwritten-with-another-in-linux
[11:47] <mike2135> you're in danger zone already
[11:47] <mike2135> fyi
[11:48] <mike2135> if it's that important, shut off and follow those instructions from a recovery disk
[11:49] <mike2135> like the guy says, if it's really really important you should be backing up
[11:53] <davi> ola pessoal sou iniciante no linux queria tira uma duvida do firewall ufw pois eu queria saber se e nessesario por regras ou pode usar so colocando ele on ?
[11:53] <OerHeks> Carraway check your connection please
[11:53] <cfhowlett> !es|davi,
[11:53] <MonkeyDust> it's portuguese
[11:53] <cfhowlett> MonkeyDust, d'oh!
[11:53] <wilee-nilee> !br
[11:54] <paul_beginner> i have antoher question. how can i save changes in a .conf file? the "save" button is greyd out
[11:55] <Eagleman> Is the script run by the user DoT, i am not sure since there is also a root user in the list:  http://pastebin.com/WNWpqTsL
[11:55] <wilee-nilee> paul_beginner, You have not opened the file correctly.
[11:55] <OerHeks> paul_beginner, any .conf outside your home folder, needs sudo >> sudo gedit <name.conf>
[11:55] <BluesKaj> !permissions | paul_beginner
[11:55] <paul_beginner> oh
[11:55] <paul_beginner> i see
[11:55] <paul_beginner> thanks
[11:56] <lwjack> BluesKaj: hey! it's you!: http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii191/EnvironJoe/kiss_me_TOAD.jpg
[11:56] <paul_beginner> do i just type that in the run dialog?
[11:56] <paul_beginner> or terminal
[11:57] <BluesKaj> either one
[11:57] <paul_beginner> ^^ okay
[11:57] <wilee-nilee> !ot | lwjack
[11:57] <paul_beginner> and sudo is like run as admin?
[11:58] <vmachine> can anyone recommend a good free vpn service i can use to mask my traffic...
[11:59] <Eagleman> vmachine, there are so many
[11:59] <vmachine> like?
[12:00] <vmachine> or any you recommend
[12:00] <davi> hello people am new to linux wanted to take a doubt the firewall ufw because I wanted to know if and nessesario by rules or you can use so putting it on?
[12:00] <Eagleman> i dont use them, they are all the same
[12:00] <vmachine> oh ok
[12:00] <cfhowlett> !firewalldavi,
[12:00] <cfhowlett> !firewall|davi,
[12:00] <Eagleman> Is the script run by the user DoT, i am not sure since there is also a root user in the list:  http://pastebin.com/WNWpqTsL
[12:01] <wilee-nilee> !sudo | paul_beginner
[12:02] <paul_beginner> thaaanks again
[12:02] <Awaken> sudo = superuser do or select user do? :P
[12:02] <Slart> Awaken: switch user do
[12:03] <Awaken> aha! :D
[12:03] <Slart> Awaken: it just happens to switch to the superuser by default
[12:03] <Awaken> yeah
[12:03] <Awaken> i know u can sudo into any acct
[12:03] <wilee-nilee> paul_beginner, What is it your doing in .conf?
[12:04] <Slart> Awaken: I suppose it could mean "substitute user do" as well (suggested by wikipeda)
[12:07] <Eagleman> Is the script run by the user DoT, i am not sure since there is also a root user in the list:  http://pastebin.com/WNWpqTsL
[12:07] <wilee-nilee> Eagleman, How is this related to ubuntu support?
[12:08] <Eagleman> becuase i am using ubuntu?
[12:08] <wilee-nilee> Eagleman, there is not enough context or details.
[12:09] <Eagleman> well i want to run that command as a different user, but i am not sure if it runs as a different user
[12:09] <theadmin> Eagleman: /gameservers is not a directory provided by any Ubuntu package (also a terrible idea to place your files somewhere where the FHS doesn't define)
[12:09] <wilee-nilee> Eagleman, what does this command show   lsb_release -a
[12:09] <theadmin> Eagleman: "sudo" runs stuff as root.
[12:10] <paul_beginner> in order the get the prog running i needed to define my username and save it
[12:10] <theadmin> Eagleman: Your command is... weird. Use this: sudo -u dot /gameservers/sa-mp/samp03svr
[12:10] <wilee-nilee> paul_beginner, what program?
[12:11] <paul_beginner> wilee-nilee: but its working fine now thanks again
[12:11] <Eagleman> theadmin, it needs to run in a screen as a different user, and i should be able to access it as root when using screen -ls
[12:11] <ikonia> Eagleman: access it as root using screen -ls ???
[12:11] <paul_beginner> kismet is the name
[12:11] <ikonia> Eagleman: screen has nothing to do with the user
[12:11] <ActionPa1snip> theadmin: its as another user as far as I can see, not just root, if you specify a username, the command you run will be launched as that user and not root
[12:12] <theadmin> ActionPa1snip: Yes, that is correct, -u can give sudo a username to run commands as
[12:12] <ActionPa1snip> theadmin: the default is root, that's all
[12:12] <Eagleman> ikonia, i cant run the screen command on the user dot, becuase i cant access ps/aux or something
[12:12] <theadmin> Eagleman: Hm. Well, anyway, according to the output you have there, the command you have does work
[12:12] <ActionPa1snip> theadmin: its like su in many ways, but you use your own password as authentication, not the user you want to run as
[12:13] <theadmin> ActionPa1snip: Hey, I know how sudo works :P
[12:13] <ikonia> Eagleman: how did you become the user dot
[12:13] <Eagleman> su dot
[12:13] <ikonia> Eagleman: and that's why
[12:13] <ikonia> Eagleman: your controlling terminal will be owned by the user you did "su" as
[12:13] <Eagleman> but the user dot only has sftp access
[12:13] <theadmin> ActionPa1snip: Overcomplicating hardly ever helps the issue, that's all
[12:13] <ikonia> Eagleman: how do they only have sftp access ?
[12:13] <ActionPa1snip> theadmin: you said sudo runs stuff as root, which isnt strictly true ;)
[12:14] <ActionPa1snip> theadmin: bit of useful info, might help to achieve future goals
[12:14] <theadmin> ActionPa1snip: Yes, I know all that, sudo simply switches to another UID/GID to execute a command, that's all
[12:15] <Eagleman> ikonia: http://pastebin.com/gbGf0uji
[12:15] <tokern3> how can i change control file in autotest? is it possible at all?
[12:16] <ikonia> Eagleman: what am I looking at ?? what is that file ?
[12:17] <Eagleman> ./etc/ssh/sshd_config
[12:17] <ikonia> Eagleman: is that a pam file ?
[12:17] <ikonia> Eagleman: how do you expect them to run screen then if they are not allowed a controlling terminal ?
[12:17] <Eagleman> well, with the command i just showed
[12:18] <ikonia> Eagleman: they stil won't have a controlling terminal, and su (without the -) will leave the enviornment, and controlling terminal - as you, the user running it
[12:18] <ikonia> Eagleman: this sounds like a real mess
[12:19] <Eagleman> ikonia, i have no clue how to do it then
[12:20] <Eagleman> Create a different user and run it as that?
[12:21] <ikonia> Eagleman: to be honest, I don't know what your trying to do / end goal
[12:21] <Eagleman> ikonia, run a script in a screen as a different user than root, so if something goes wrong in the script, the attackers dont have root rights trough the script being run as root
[12:22] <ikonia> Eagleman: ok, so launch screen as a user, and run the script
[12:22] <ikonia> Eagleman: that user must have access to the controlling tty it's using
[12:22] <ikonia> and obviously the ability to run the command "screen"
[12:23] <Eagleman> ikonia, looks like non of the non root users have access to the command screen: Cannot open your terminal '/dev/pts/3' - please check.
[12:23] <ikonia> Eagleman: that is the controlling terminal !
[12:23] <ikonia> Eagleman: what user are you logged in as when you do "su"
[12:24] <Eagleman> so how can i switch user from root, su isnt working. a new ssh session does work, and i am able to use screen
[12:25] <paul_beginner> thanks for all the help. i'll try later on. bye
[12:25] <ikonia> Eagleman: why are you root ?
[12:25] <ikonia> Eagleman: the ubuntu setup locks root - why are you root
[12:25] <Eagleman> ikonia, i never understood this shell enviroment stuff, i always do sudo su, so i dont have to use sudo infront of every command
[12:26] <ikonia> despite you being in tihs channel a lot of the time and you see people saying "don't do that"
[12:26] <daftykins> >_<
[12:26] <chillpill_> dont do that!!
[12:26] <daftykins> Eagleman: you ought to use best practices
[12:26] <ikonia> Eagleman: simple solutions 1.) launch screen as your current user, then IN THE SCREEN SESSION su - user (note the -)
[12:26] <ikonia> Eagleman: 2.) change the ownership/permissions on the tty you are using
[12:27] <ikonia> Eagleman: 3.) login via a session and run screen as that user, so you have access to the controlling terminal
[12:27] <ikonia> Eagleman: and then stop doing sudo su
[12:27] <ikonia> any of that work for you
[12:28] <ActionPa1snip> Eagleman: you can use:  sudo -i    but sudo has a grace period meaning you will not be asked for password for a while after entering it
[12:28] <chillpill_> sudo su is not for me, say that loudly three times.
[12:28] <wilee-nilee> lol
[12:28] <Eagleman> sudo su is not for me xD
[12:29] <ikonia> Eagleman: do any of those solutions meet your needs ?
[12:29] <Eagleman> any guides around on how this enviroments work, in normal english?
[12:29] <Eagleman> ikonia, hold on trying it
[12:29] <ikonia> Eagleman: this enviorment work ?? what enviornment work
[12:30] <Eagleman> all those su and sudo command, what they do and how they work
[12:30] <ikonia> Eagleman: man su, man sudo
[12:30] <ikonia> Eagleman: can't get any clearer and easier than that
[12:30] <ActionPa1snip> Eagleman: su is to switch user, sudo allows you to run commands as other users (root by default)
[12:30] <chillpill_> or break things really fast and end up reinstalling over and over again.
[12:31] <MonkeyDust> if you don't know what you are doing
[12:31] <geekbri> you shoudl be able to use sudo to change users as well actually.  sudo -i -u <some user>  Should give you a login shell as the desired user
[12:31] <chillpill_> after about the third of forth time, all the fun has gone out if it.
[12:33] <Kartagis> Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 07) <--- how can I find out this card's maximum supported resolution under ubuntu?
[12:33] <chillpill_> time for my yoga class have a good one, all.
[12:34] <ikonia> Kartagis: go to intel.com and read it's spec
[12:34] <ActionPa1snip> Kartagis: xrandr    should show it (assuming it has a driver)
[12:34] <ikonia> Kartagis: that will tell you it's supported resolution, it may need more/less ram allocating in the bios to get diferent settings
[12:34] <ikonia> Kartagis: intel.com is your friend
[12:35] <mathnode> Does anyone know about the talk Anders Karlsson from SkySQL gave on REST API with MariaDB?
[12:35] <mathnode> sorry wrong channel!
[12:36] <pbt> !emacs
[12:36] <theadmin> Can someone either a) help me to get nVidia drivers working on Dell XPS 15Z with a resolution higher than 640x480 (:/) or B) prevent overheating when using the Intel card the same laptop also has?
[12:36] <pbt> !topic
[12:36] <adamk> ActionPa1snip: xrandr will show the maximum resolution supported by that combination of monitor and video card.  It won't show the maximum resolution supported by just the video card.
[12:36] <ikonia> theadmin: please don't say an optimus card ?
[12:36] <theadmin> ikonia: I honestly have no idea how to tell if it is one
[12:37] <ikonia> theadmin: is it one of the intel+nvidia ones, or two seperate cards, nvidia / intel
[12:37] <theadmin> ikonia: Uhm. I haven't looked inside. lspci | grep -i vga says this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6010121/
[12:38] <adamk> theadmin: Is there any option in the BIOS to disable either of the GPUs?
[12:38] <ikonia> theadmin: I don't recognise that model, I don't know if that's an optimus or not, interesting
[12:39] <theadmin> adamk: No, the BIOS setup on this machine is terrible, I hardly managed to configure the boot order :/
[12:40] <Kartagis> I can't seem to find out what the chipset is :S
[12:40] <ActionPa1snip> adamk: depends if you set your res less than max
[12:40] <xrc> looks to me like an optimus machine ( I get the same output on mine)
[12:40] <adamk> theadmin: Then it's Optimus.
[12:41] <ActionPa1snip> theadmin: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport/Machines/Laptops/Dell/XPS/15z   seen that one?
[12:41] <Kartagis> ActionPa1snip: xrandr doesn't work remotely :S
[12:41] <theadmin> adamk: Ah... Sad. I don't want to mess with Bumblebee
[12:41] <ActionPa1snip> Kartagis: sure it does
[12:41] <theadmin> ActionPa1snip: Ah thanks
[12:41] <adamk> ActionPa1snip: My point is that if the maximum resoluiton supported by the video card is 2048x2048, but the maximum resolution of the monitor is 1680x1050, xrandr will only list up to 1680x1050, so you are not actually seeing the maximum resolution of the video card, which is what Kartagis was asking for.
[12:41] <ActionPa1snip> Kartagis: export DISPLAY=0:0 xrandr
[12:42] <Kartagis> sudo xrandr
[12:42] <Kartagis> Can't open display
[12:42] <ActionPa1snip> adamk: ahh i see
[12:42] <ActionPa1snip> Kartagis: ^   xrandr also does not need sudo
[12:42] <Ultimate4> Hello there. Lately i was upgrading from ubuntu 11.10 to ubuntu 12.04 LTS through package manager. There are five main phases of updating:- 1. Looking for updates, 2. Downloading updates, 3. Installing updates, 4. Deleting uncompressed and downloaded packages, and 5. Restarting computer.    My computer shuts down just at the end of 3rd phase when just two or three minutes were remaining.
[12:43] <ActionPa1snip> Kartagis:  export DISPLAY=0:0; xrandr     sorry
[12:43] <ActionPa1snip> Kartagis: works, right?
[12:43] <wilee-nilee> !eol | Ultimate4
[12:43] <MaximB> hello, does the live install cd use the hard disks in ANY way when it loads the system?
[12:43] <Kartagis> Can't open display 0:0
[12:43] <ActionPa1snip> MaximB: I believe it will use swap if some is set
[12:43] <wilee-nilee> Ultimate4, A eol upgrade does not run from that.
[12:43] <theadmin> MaximB: If you have a swap partition, it will auto-swap-on it.
[12:44] <Ultimate4> Now i can login without any problem in my new ubuntu 12.04 LTS and use any application without any problem. But i still think that there may be something that may be missing and one think i am noticing is that some 3 to 4 gb space is used by something.
[12:44] <theadmin> MaximB: Other than that, the LiveCD does not use the hard drives.
[12:44] <MaximB> ActionPa1snip: and if I have RAID but not sure what was installed before on it?
[12:45] <adamk_> Kartagis, Are you trying to find out the maximum supported resolution of the video card, or the maximum supported resolution of that particular setup (ie. that monitor and video card together)?
[12:45] <theadmin> MaximB: Eh... You'd want the alternate installer for RAID. I don't think the graphical one works with that.
[12:45] <MaximB> what could be the reason it got stuck at boot screen? (the live cd)
[12:45] <wilee-nilee> Ultimate4, can you run sudo apt-get update and pastebin all the text
[12:45] <wilee-nilee> MaximB, stuck meaning?
[12:46] <ActionPa1snip> Kartagis: gimme a sec, i'll make you a pic
[12:46] <Kartagis> lspci --v told me the kernel driver is i1915
[12:46] <Kartagis> -vv sorry
[12:46] <MaximB> it boots till "ubuntu boot scree" and after 3-4 min it stuck
[12:46] <ActionPa1snip> Kartagis: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/8850924/fine.png   works ok here
[12:46] <MaximB> i can move the mice and thats it
[12:46] <adamk_> Kartagis, Is Xorg running on that machine?
[12:46] <thepeopleschamp_> hi can someone help with this issue?
[12:47] <theadmin> ikonia: Okay so according to the info ActionPa1snip gave me this *is* an Optimus card. Figures it doesn't work, I'll try with Bumblebee.
[12:47] <thepeopleschamp_> im tryin to listen to www.hot97.com but the radio does not play overseas from usa, is there anyway i can do this with an app or somethin in ubuntu?
[12:47] <amal> what issue
[12:47] <wilee-nilee> MaximB, Stuck means nothing, in what way?
[12:47] <Kartagis> adamk: GNOME does, but now sure about xorg
[12:47] <ikonia> theadmin: welcome to dissapointment, I'm sorry
[12:47] <theadmin> thepeopleschamp_: Tor may help if yo use a US exit node
[12:47] <ActionPa1snip> Kartagis: are you running similar?
[12:47] <theadmin> ikonia: Yeah sad. Should have made sure before I bought this :/
[12:47] <thepeopleschamp_> how?
[12:47] <MaximB> wilee-nilee: it doesn't boot to the OS
[12:47] <ikonia> theadmin: sorry,
[12:47] <Kartagis> similar?
[12:47] <MaximB> no erros
[12:47] <theadmin> thepeopleschamp_: Uh... I have written up a guide on askubuntu.com, let me find it.
[12:48] <ActionPa1snip> Kartagis: similar commands to mine
[12:48] <thepeopleschamp_> i so want that station beein played in a media player stored in my system, is that possible?
[12:48] <thepeopleschamp_> cool
[12:48] <wilee-nilee> MaximB, like a black screen?
[12:48] <theadmin> thepeopleschamp_: http://askubuntu.com/questions/312692/howto-run-tor-and-vidalia-on-ubuntu-easily-browse-and-im-anonymously/312693
[12:48] <MaximB> no, the ubuntu loading screen\]
[12:48] <theadmin> thepeopleschamp_: That's about it. If it doesn't work automatically, add ExitNodes us to torrc.
[12:48] <ActionPa1snip> Kartagis: as those clearly work via ssh
[12:49] <ActionPa1snip> Kartagis: meaning it can be ran remotely
[12:49] <wilee-nilee> MaximB, Have you checked the sum or tried running the check disc there?
[12:49] <Kartagis> ActionPa1snip: I get "Can't open display 0:0
[12:49] <Kartagis> "
[12:49] <theadmin> Anyway, rebooting time. Hope this works.
[12:49] <MaximB> the disk is fine as i've used it to install on other machine
[12:49] <ActionPa1snip> Kartagis: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue    on the server?
[12:50] <ActionPa1snip> Kartagis: and does it have a running x server?
[12:50] <wilee-nilee> MaximB, Heh, famous last words
[12:50] <Kartagis> ubuntu 13.04 \n \l
[12:50] <Kartagis> GNOME is running, but not sure about x
[12:50] <ActionPa1snip> Kartagis: not sure then, but it can be ran remotely via ssh
[12:50] <MaximB> wilee-nilee: yes but that was yesterday
[12:50] <adamk_> Kartagis, And, if the X server is running, is someone logged into it, or is it sitting at the login screen.
[12:50] <MaximB> it can't break up in 1 day
[12:50] <ActionPa1snip> Kartagis: gnome will need X to run
[12:51] <wilee-nilee> MaximB, The problem here is no actual details.
[12:51] <MaximB> but i have none
[12:51] <Kartagis> adamk: it's logged in, I left it that way
[12:51] <MaximB> no error msg,no output
[12:52] <free_mind> Hello everyone. I have a question regarding shutting down of a computer. I could be wrong, but is the bios of the computer responsible for the definitive execution of the shutdown to the hardware? So the operating system gives in the last the instructions to the bios 'you may shutdown'. Is this correct?
[12:52] <adamk_> Kartagis, OK, well I have no idea why xrandr won't work then..  But if you want to know the maximum resolution you can get working on your machine, you can also check your /var/log/Xorg.0.log file.  Bear in mind that you actually asked for the maximum supported resolution of your video card, which is not necessarily the same thing as the maximum supported resolution on that particular machine.
[12:53] <theadmin> Okay, yay, bumblebee works. The only sad part about this is that I'm using an out-of-the-repos driver which is kinda worrying.
[12:53] <theadmin> Thanks ikonia and ActionPa1snip
[12:53] <Kartagis> adamk: sorry, I didn't see your question earlier. I'm trying to get it up to 1366x768 so that it shows full screen when I hook it up to a TV
[12:54] <adamk_> Kartagis, If the TV isn't currently hooked up, then all this work is pointless.
[12:54] <Kartagis> adamk: if I can get it to that resolution, I can hook it up
[12:55] <free_mind> Or is this the wrong channel for my question ;)
[12:55] <Kartagis> adamk: what am I looking for in /var/log/Xorg.0.log?
[12:55] <adamk_> Kartagis, That's not how X works :-)  Each video output port is controlled separately by X.  Getting 1366x768 on a port that doesn't have the TV hooked up has no bearing on whether or not 1366x768 will work on the port with the TV.
[12:56] <daftykins> free_mind: we support Ubuntu, not do your computer homework :)
[12:56] <free_mind> daftykins: well the computer runs Ubuntu...
[12:56] <daftykins> free_mind: doesn't count :)
[12:56] <Kartagis> adamk: so I should work with the TV hooked up?
[12:57] <free_mind> daftykins: well thanks for the pointer to start doing my homework then.
[12:57] <adamk_> Kartagis, That's what I'm saying, yes.
[12:58] <adamk_> Kartagis, Then, if Xorg doesn't detect the proper resolution for the TV, we can use xrandr to create a modeline and force that port to use that modeline.
[12:58] <Kartagis> adamk: I've hooked it up before, and confirmed that it doesn't go beyond 1260 something
[12:58] <Kartagis> adamk: also checked resolution settings
[13:00] <adamk_> Kartagis, OK, so hook up the TV again and force X to use the resolution you want: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution#Adding_undetected_resolutions
[13:02] <Kartagis> adamk: is it even possible that X doesn't detect my maximum supported resolution even if I have the line Modes     "1366x768" "1280x800" "1024x768" "800x600" in /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
[13:03] <Kartagis> adamk: and I don't have 1366 anywhere in /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[13:07] <spartan2276> Hello, I know this is a Ubuntu Channel, but does anyone know the name of a public IRC PHP channel that does not requires an Invite?
[13:07] <MonkeyDust> spartan2276  type    /msg alis list *php*    <-- with the asterisks
[13:08] <spartan2276> where do I type this?
[13:08] <MonkeyDust> spartan2276  here in the channel, a new window will open
[13:08] <Kartagis> spartan2276: ##php
[13:08] <k1l> !alis > spartan2276
[13:09] <babilen> spartan2276: You have to be registered with nickserv if you want to join ##php -- See "/msg nickserv help register" for details
[13:09] <BluesKaj> usually the server text is best
[13:09] <babilen> spartan2276: Ask in #freenode if you require further IRC related help - This isn't really on-topic in this channel.
[13:10] <yalan_dunya> <<<<mrb_hoşgeldin_tatlı_melek<<<<<<
[13:10] <Kartagis> spartan2276: +r and +i are not even close
[13:10] <spartan2276> Ok thanks guys, sorry for being off-topic but need some serious PHP help.
[13:11] <babilen> spartan2276: Yes, register an account on IRC (ask in #freenode if you have problems doing that), identify to it and join ##php
[13:11] <theadmin> spartan2276: <?php echo phpinfo(); ?>. That's pretty much all this channel could help with ;) Go to ##php -- register first.
[13:11] <Kartagis> spartan2276: it would take you 10 secs to register
[13:11] <spartan2276> ok thanks
[13:12] <xeon123> My network interfaces start at eth2. It should start at eth0. Why this happens?
[13:12] <Kartagis> remember that most channels on freenode require that you be identified with nickserv
[13:12] <babilen> xeon123: /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules
[13:12] <Kartagis> xeon123: edit /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules and reboot
[13:13] <Kartagis> spartan2276: remember that most channels on freenode require that you be identified with nickserv
[13:13] <babilen> No need to reboot, running "udevadm trigger" and/or reloading the modules should be enough.
[13:14] <adamk_> Kartagis, Listing modes in /etc/X11/xorg.conf doesn't do much of anything these days.
[13:14] <tata> what I need to install for play MP4 sound? I have video but audio is missing
[13:15] <BluesKaj> tata, try VLC
[13:16] <tata> I prefer gnome player!
[13:16] <Kartagis> tata: or make sure the file is not actually missing audio
[13:16] <k1l> tata: you got the codecs?
[13:16] <free_mind> BluesKaj: no, try mplayer ;)
[13:16] <tata> what codec is for mp4?
[13:17] <MonkeyDust> tata  try installing ubuntu-restricted-extras
[13:18] <k1l> tata: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[13:18] <BluesKaj> free_mind, mplayer is ok , but I have 2 soundcards , so i need more control , mplayer isn't as flexible as VLC
[13:19] <BluesKaj> mp4 is apple/mac codec
[13:19] <tata> ok I try with restricted....
[13:19] <tata> thanks
[13:20] <burg> i have just installed ubuntu server 12.04 lts, but i do not have an internet connection. and there is no light on the network port when i insert the utp cable. ifconfig only shows lo entry
[13:20] <ntzrmtthihu777> heyo, don't suppose anyone here knows how to extract icons from a MSVC .res
[13:20] <daftykins> burg: have you identified what your LAN chipset is?
[13:20] <compdoc> burg, its not seeing your nic. does the command lspci show it?
[13:21] <ntzrmtthihu777> file? I'm looking to convert a windows icon theme to a theme for ubuntu
[13:21] <burg> compdoc, lspci shows: Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications Inc. Device e091 (rev 13)
[13:22] <theadmin> ntzrmtthihu777: There's an app called "Resource Hacker" that may help. It's for windows, but might run under Wine.
[13:24] <BluesKaj> burg, that's probly the wifi card , try this for ethernet , lspci | grep -i net
[13:24] <ntzrmtthihu777> theadmin: heh, I've used that before, but iirc it only functions on windows PE exe/dll files
[13:24] <theadmin> ntzrmtthihu777: Hm says it works with .res
[13:24] <theadmin> ntzrmtthihu777: Give it a try? Who knows.
[13:26] <ntzrmtthihu777> theadmin: just found something, giving that a shot. Never hurts to try, eh?
[13:26] <burg> BluesKaj, i do not have a wifi card
[13:26] <daftykins> BluesKaj: atheros do wired too ;)
[13:27] <BluesKaj> burg, ip a | grep eth0
[13:27] <varunendra> burg, to exactly identify your card and possibly the driver in use (if there is any) - "lspci -nnk | grep -iA2 net"
[13:27] <burg> BluesKaj, just rebooted the computer and now it won't start anymore (black screen). it is a new server install
[13:29] <ActionPa1snip> burg: add the boot option: nomodeset
[13:29] <burg> ActionPa1snip, already tried that, but i still get the black screen
[13:30] <penelope> Hello all
[13:30] <BluesKaj> burg, did you install a desktop with the server ?
[13:31] <penelope> I have totally screwed up my desktop (think I deleted it)
[13:31] <burg> BluesKaj, no. just ubuntu 12.04 server edition
[13:31] <free_mind> BluesKaj: never tested two sound cards at the same time... so you might be right.
[13:31] <wilee-nilee> penelope, We need some details is all.
[13:32] <penelope> welee-nilee -bless you, okay give me a minute and I will type it all (I'm slow)
[13:33] <theadmin> ntzrmtthihu777: Guess so :)
[13:33] <wilee-nilee> penelope, Direct it to the channel is all not specifically me, is all.
[13:33] <BluesKaj> free_mind, i use an m-audio pci as card0/default , and the hdmi output from the mobo audio chip as card1
[13:34] <jephb> hi
[13:34] <daftykins> hi
[13:34] <free_mind> BluesKaj: what's the benefit from that?
[13:35] <penelope> I'm new but was getting Mint up, running and looking good  I think in my exuberance I decided i had a lot of programs I don't need and I believe I took off the gnome-cinnomon desktop.  I now get an error booting up that says "gnome session-cinnamon2d not found
[13:35] <burg> varunendra, i will install ubuntu server again (actually i got an error when installing, maybe that is the cause) and i will come back with the network issue. i believe it is not possible to install the network driver, if missing, while installing the server, right?
[13:35] <burg> varunendra, to also have internet connection while installing
[13:35] <wilee-nilee> penelope, mint is not supported here is all.
[13:35] <penelope> Like I said, I'm new at this.  On the upside (maybe) I also have zorin installed.  Is there a way I can put necessary files back in Mint from Zorin?
[13:36] <ActionPa1snip> penelope: zorin is also not ubuntu
[13:36] <wilee-nilee> penelope, This is ubuntu support only, you need to go to their channels for help. ;)
[13:36] <ActionPa1snip> penelope: neither mint nor zorin are supported here
[13:36] <free_mind> penelope: maybe do a ddg.gg search for: installing desktop environment mint
[13:37] <^rcaskey> hey all, is the "Advanced VPN" on the Galaxy 4S stock android? Is there a way to tell it to not use the remote getway by default?
[13:37] <MonkeyDust> penelope  you're not in the right channel
[13:37] <penelope> I just downloaded this chat in ZOrin, it didn't have a chat.  Ok, I guess I can't get to Mint from here?
[13:37] <^rcaskey> bah wrong channel
[13:37] <^rcaskey> :P
[13:37] <k1l> ^rcaskey: i think you want the android channel
[13:37] <k1l> !mint | penelope
[13:38] <penelope> freemind -thank you.  Sorry people :-(
[13:38] <wilee-nilee> penelope, You might consider installing ubuntu it has much better support, the ubuntu forums supports all OS though.
[13:38] <BluesKaj> free_mind, my wireless headphones don't work with multi channel (above 2) digital signals , and the hdmi audio loops back from my tv as pcm , which works
[13:38] <varunendra> burg, I'm not familiar with server installation process, but if you have internet connection while installing, then you maybe able to install the driver during the installation by choosing to 'install third party applications & proprietary drivers' if such an option is available.
[13:40] <penelope> wilee nileee - my computer is to old..I had Ubuntu 10 and Pi8nguy..they couldn't take my Nvidia card
[13:40] <penelope> Pinguy
[13:40] <thebishop> has anyone worked around the problem with gnome-terminal resizing itself when another window takes focus?
[13:40] <jephb> i have something i don't understand in  samba file server. when i am configuring samba file server and assume i have 10 computer running windows 7 and they have to have  access with diferent level of permission on a given folder how do i need to create those 10 users on the server so that whoever want a file on the  server will connect from the client running windows using the username i have create on the server or the users are those create on windows machine
[13:40] <jephb> and already exist
[13:40] <burg> varunendra, i don`t have an internet connection because i don`t have the driver
[13:40] <free_mind> BluesKaj: ah okay. Although wireless headphones wouldn't be my choose... I prefer wired. :)
[13:40] <wilee-nilee> penelope, All the drivers in those other OS will run in ubuntu.
[13:41] <wilee-nilee> penelope, You just have to know how to load them, they are ubuntu derivatives, and linux.
[13:42] <ntzrmtthihu777> theadmin: hehe, I coulda sworn this only opened pe exe/dlls, lol. Reshacker did it for me, but I was hoping for some command line utility, makes batch conversion far simpler ;)
[13:42] <BluesKaj> free_mind, wireless 'phones have come a long way , my sennheisers have excellent sound
[13:42] <wilee-nilee> penelope, Those OS are basically for a little easier plug and play environment.
[13:42] <mike2135> http://www.webupd8.org/2010/05/mark-shuttleworth-its-ok-to-customize.html
[13:43] <mike2135> WTF
[13:43] <penelope> It seemed to be a problem with the Nvidia drivers but I'm getting another computer Christmas so maybe then...
[13:43] <theadmin> ntzrmtthihu777: That is true. The only one close I know is cabextract but as you can guess...
[13:43] <k1l> !ot | mike2135
[13:43] <wilee-nilee> !language|mike2135 acronyms are not allowed
[13:43] <mike2135> excuse me
[13:43] <varunendra> burg, then just finish the installation first. Make sure the installation source itself is intact (check md5sum etc.), and hopefully the rest of the fix shouldn
[13:44] <varunendra> shouldn't be difficult.. burg
[13:44] <burg> varunendra, thanks. i`ll be back when i finish the installation
[13:44] <varunendra> best of luck ! :)
[13:44] <penelope> okay, I'm off to find people who have walked in my shoes..Adios, thanks wilee
[13:45] <wilee-nilee> no prob
[13:47] <ntzrmtthihu777> really wish broadcom would get off their collective duffs and provide a driver for my fingerprint scanner XD
[13:48] <theadmin> I really like how the Unity launcher adapts its' color to my desktop background. Is there, perchance, a way to do the same with window borders and such?
[13:48] <theadmin> I guess not, since Unity doesn't deal with Compiz that deeply...
[13:49] <ntzrmtthihu777> anyone given unity a go in 13.04? I'm considering switching to it in order to take advantage of multitouch (4 points ftw!) on this device, but I wasn't a fan of unity in precise.
[13:49] <MonkeyDust> ntzrmtthihu777  unity is the default
[13:50] <wilee-nilee> theadmin, unity is a plugin in compiz
[13:50] <theadmin> ntzrmtthihu777: It's pretty much exactly the same as in Precise except a few polishments.
[13:50] <theadmin> wilee-nilee: Yeah I know, this is why I figured :D
[13:50] <wilee-nilee> I figured you did. ;)
[13:51] <wilee-nilee> theadmin, There is the unity-tweak tool
[13:51] <theadmin> wilee-nilee: I don't think it deals with the window manager?
[13:52] <wilee-nilee> theadmin, It will alter the de but its just a limited gui
[13:53] <theadmin> wilee-nilee: Yeah I suppose, lol anyway, doesn't really matter. Does Unity have any third-party themes somewhere, except the default Ambiance/Radiance?
[13:54] <ntzrmtthihu777> MonkeyDust: I know, lol. which is wy I use xfce
[13:54] <convoi> welcome to xubuntu ^^
[13:55] <daftykins> you do everything at xubuntu
[13:55] <daftykins> *anything - anything at all
[13:55] <ntzrmtthihu777> convoi: yep, that's my current flavour of choice, but if unity is a bit better for this multitouch I'll maybe swap.
[13:55] <chxane> How do I uninstall everything associated with ubuntu-desktop on my ubuntu server? I want to make it console only like originally and I have done apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop but it is still booting to desktop and login.
[13:56] <Ari-Yang> if you have problems with Unity, just try out a different DE *shrugs*
[13:56] <theadmin> chxane: This is going to be a LONG command, so I'll pastebin it.
[13:56] <ntzrmtthihu777> chxane: ubuntu-desktop is only a metapackage, it just requires everything else for you.
[13:56] <wilee-nilee> chxane, Thats a backwards method.
[13:56] <Ari-Yang> I tried gnome, cinnamon, and E17
[13:56] <ActionPa1snip> chxane: uninstall xorg and the rest will be marked for removal
[13:56] <ntzrmtthihu777> chxane: yeah, its huge XD
[13:56] <ActionPa1snip> Ari-Yang: unity isnt a de
[13:56] <chxane> theadmin, ok
[13:56] <theadmin> chxane: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6010373/
[13:56] <Ari-Yang> ActionPa1snip, I  know, neither is E but I included it in the list XD
[13:56] <ntzrmtthihu777> chxane: yeah, psycocats has the command :P
[13:56] <convoi> tôi buồn
[13:57] <ActionPa1snip> Ari-Yang: unity is a shell for gnome. when you use ubuntu, you are using the gnome de
[13:57] <ActionPa1snip> Ari-Yang: ;)
[13:57] <Ari-Yang> mmmmhmmm
[13:57] <ntzrmtthihu777> yep, its just a compiz plugin
[13:57] <chxane> wilee-nilee, yeah I installed the desktop initially but this computer is too slow to handle some applications I am running on the desktop anyway so going to make it go back to terminal only
[13:57] <MonkeyDust> chxane  try sudo apt-get autoremove
[13:57] <Ari-Yang> !autoremove
[13:57] <ntzrmtthihu777> MonkeyDust: won't do it. You gotta use that huge command above :P
[13:57] <Ari-Yang> derp
[13:57] <chxane> it's a POS dell pentium 4 I use to do web dev
[13:57] <convoi> my laptop is so hot when using linux
[13:58] <chxane> ty theadmin
[13:58] <Ari-Yang> convoi, what graphics card do you have?
[13:58] <Ari-Yang> erm
[13:58] <Ari-Yang> convoi,
[13:58] <Ari-Yang> what graphics card do you have, convoi ?
[13:58] <convoi> ATI Radeon HD 3470
[13:59] <ActionPa1snip> convoi: grab the driver from the fglrx legacy ppa
[13:59] <ActionPa1snip> convoi: known issue
[13:59] <Ari-Yang> convoi, using open source driver or AMD's proprietary fglrx?
[13:59] <Ari-Yang> chxane, just so you know what autoreomve does http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=ZMvRGF8Y
[13:59] <Ari-Yang> convoi, also, what version of ubuntu are you using?
[13:59] <convoi> I'm using AMD driver within xubuntu
[14:00] <ActionPa1snip> convoi: can you pastebin the output of:  sudo lshw -C display; lsb_release -a; uname -a
[14:01] <Ari-Yang> convoi, most likely you are using the open source driver, which doesn't have proper DPM (dynamic power management), so your laptop will run hot like how mine used to. I installed a mainline kernel and added the boot parameter radeon.dpm=1 to enable proper dynamic power management and my laptop doesn't run hot anymore with open source drivers
[14:01] <chxane> theadmin Ari-Yang  I am getting this back and it doesn't remove anything http://paste.ubuntu.com/6010388/
[14:01] <convoi> here it is, Action
[14:01] <convoi>   *-display UNCLAIMED
[14:01] <convoi>        description: VGA compatible controller
[14:01] <convoi>        product: RV620 [Mobility Radeon HD 3400 Series]
[14:01] <convoi>        vendor: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI
[14:01] <convoi>        physical id: 0
[14:01] <FloodBot1> convoi: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:01] <convoi>        bus info: pci@0000:01:00.0
[14:01] <ntzrmtthihu777> pastebin fail
[14:01] <DougsTech> hello
[14:01] <theadmin> chxane: Then that's for the wrong Ubuntu version, which do you have?
[14:02] <Ari-Yang> so you can do what I do convoi and install a mainline kernel, or you could try out fglrx (which has horrible 2d acceleration and glitches but it may work out for you)
[14:02] <chxane> theadmin, 13.01
[14:02] <burg> varunendra, Ethernet controller [0200]: Atheros Communications Inc. Device [1969:e091] (rev 13) Subsystem: Micro-Star International Co., Ltd. Device [1462:7758] PCI bridge [0604]: AsMedia Technology Inc. ASM1083/1085 PCIe to PCI Bridge [1b21:1080] (rev 03)
[14:02] <bean> thats not a version chxane
[14:02] <burg> this is the output for lspci -nnk | grep -iA2 net
[14:02] <bean> do you mean 13.04
[14:02] <theadmin> chxane: Wat
[14:02] <chxane> bean, yes sorry
[14:02] <ntzrmtthihu777> question: is ubuntu 13.04 using mir already?
[14:02] <chxane> 13.04
[14:03] <theadmin> ntzrmtthihu777: No, it's under heavy development in the Saucy branch atm
[14:03] <theadmin> ntzrmtthihu777: Will be the default in 13.10
[14:03] <ntzrmtthihu777> theadmin: =_= oh the pain
[14:04] <burg> varunendra, also sudo lshw -C network outputs: network UNCLAIMED
[14:04] <theadmin> ntzrmtthihu777: Why? Nothing wrong with Mir, in my opinion. Xorg is awkward in modern environments.
[14:04] <convoi> I used xubuntu 12.04 with Jupiter, it still not overheat until when i upgrade to 12.10. desktop resolution was wrong and laptop overheating
[14:04] <varunendra> burg, taking a look, please stand by...
[14:06] <stuartsierra> A mystery: yesterday, for a few hours, apt-get couldn't find "build-essential" failed on Ubuntu "Precise" on EC2. Today it works fine.
[14:07] <Ari-Yang> convoi, AMD HD3000 series should run cool with the open source driver and fglrx, you said so yourself you were fine on 12.04 until upgrading to 12.10, so it's a 12.10 kernel bug
[14:08] <convoi> ok i see, thank Ari
[14:08] <Ari-Yang> convoi, you can download and install http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/drm-next/
[14:08] <convoi> oh
[14:08] <Ari-Yang> and add the grub boot parameter radeon.dpm=1
[14:09] <netlar> Is there a built in equalizer for Ubuntu?
[14:09] <ntzrmtthihu777> theadmin: but I like xorg =3=
[14:09] <theadmin> netlar: None that I know of, no
[14:10] <ntzrmtthihu777> holy crap installing ubuntu-desktop takes forever and a day XD
[14:10] <Ari-Yang> convoi, are you running on a 64bit or 32?
[14:10] <convoi> my grub: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash pcie_aspm=force"
[14:10] <convoi> 32bit, Ari
[14:10] <netlar> theadmin: What is a good one to get, any recommendations?
[14:11] <varunendra> burg, the device is not natively supported in Linux yet. One possible solution maybe using the windows driver with "ndiswrapper", but I'm not sure yet. Please take a look at this thread : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2003542
[14:11] <ntzrmtthihu777> netlar: pavucontroll may be of use to you.
[14:11] <chiques> Has anyone installed the latest version of Ubuntu on an Asus high end laptop running Windows 8 Pro?
[14:11] <Ari-Yang> convoi, just a moment....
[14:11] <netlar> ntzrmtthihu777: thanks
[14:12] <ntzrmtthihu777> anyone here us remina? how does it compare to, say, teamviewer on windows?
[14:13] <somsip> ntzrmtthihu777: it did the job for me when I need to admin a Win* VM in a cloud. I didn't feel overly attached to it though.
[14:13] <ntzrmtthihu777> somsip: can you use it to connect to windows pcs?
[14:14] <lesser_panda> Ah, good morning all.
[14:15] <convoi> 21:15 here
[14:15] <segads> vhello there
[14:15] <convoi> good evening lesser
[14:15] <segads> i need a little help for ubunto server
[14:15] <segads> ubuntu
[14:16] <stuartsierra> And now it happens again. One successful, then on a second EC2 instance, running an Ubuntu Precise AMI, "Package build-essential is not available." Any suggestions?
[14:17] <varunendra> burg, looks like I was wrong.. the device does seem to be supported by the linux driver "alx" (reading the same thread, and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2008332)
[14:18] <convoi> stuartsierra, you should select best server in software sources and try to update again
[14:18] <lesser_panda> So I am a recent convert (huzzah!) and I'm all excited to dive into the meat-and-potatoes of using Linux, specifically Ubuntu. I was curious if there were any recommended resources out there.
[14:18] <segads> hello
[14:19] <segads> can someone help me with ubuntu server
[14:19] <segads> the static ip configuration
[14:19] <stuartsierra> convoi: OK, thanks. This is an automated remote build using Packer. Do I need to modify sources.list or some other config?
[14:19] <somsip> stuartsierra: it might be that the designated repo server for that AWS region/however-it-works is problematic
[14:19] <burg> varunendra, and how do i enable it?
[14:20] <stuartsierra> somsip: I was starting to wonder about that. `apt-get update` reports it's hitting archive.ubuntu.com
[14:20] <somsip> stuartsierra: I'm surprised. I'm sure my precise AWS servers hit an AWS URL
[14:20] <stuartsierra> I didn't save the logs from the successful run, so I don't know if it was using a different server that time.
[14:21] <somsip> stuartsierra: like:  http://us-east-1.ec2.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/
[14:21] <stuartsierra> Maybe it has something to do with which AWS Availability Zone the instance starts in?
[14:21] <stuartsierra> somsip: Yes, I've seen that before too.
[14:21] <varunendra> burg, which version of Ubuntu are you using? I think the 13.04 kernel already contains the required driver.
[14:21] <somsip> stuartsierra: looking at the URL, it seems so. I usually find AWS repos are fast and up to date
[14:21] <burg> varunendra, 12.04 lts
[14:21] <Ari-Yang> convoi, sorry for going afk, my internet is acting up :/
[14:22] <convoi> segads, http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/change-ubuntu-server-from-dhcp-to-a-static-ip-address/
[14:22] <Ari-Yang> convoi, so get the kernel image that is suited for your OS from here http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/drm-next/ (get the one that was released today, 2-21)
[14:22] <varunendra> burg, then you will have to build the driver. See if you can follow this thread : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2008332
[14:23] <stuartsierra> somsip: So maybe I need to force apt to use a particular package server.
[14:23] <Ari-Yang> convoi, you can grab the headers too in case you will be building kernel modules etc.
[14:23] <convoi> get both of linux-image and linux-header? Ari-Yang
[14:23] <convoi> ok
[14:23] <Ari-Yang> convoi, you don't need the header really, but you ofc need the image to boot into the new kernel
[14:23] <somsip> stuartsierra: I have no experience using that. If you are doing a lot of data transfer and you use a repo out of your region you will pay more data transfer costs IIRC, but for simple updates it's not going to amount to much
[14:23] <somsip> s/using/doing
[14:24] <Ari-Yang> like you can just download the image (that's 32bit, not the 64bit one), install, then reboot
[14:24] <stuartsierra> Hm. All 4 instances started in the same AWS Zone. 1 worked, 3 didn't.
[14:24] <somsip> stuartsierra: all the same repo URL?
[14:24] <convoi> ok Ari-Yang, i'm trying
[14:24] <varunendra> burg, for detailed step-by-step help, if you need it, a thread in Ubuntu Forums would be the best idea. If you create a thread there, don't forget to post your hardware details and a link to the above thread for reference.
[14:24] <stuartsierra> somsip: That's what I don't know. I didn't keep that log.
[14:24] <Ari-Yang> convoi, after downloading it, install it, then add radeon.dpm=1 to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT of the grub file (/etc/default/grub)
[14:25] <Ari-Yang> you can place it right after your other parameter, just make sure you leave a space between the two. after that run sudo update-grub then reboot
[14:25] <somsip> stuartsierra: compare /etc/apt/sources.list
[14:25] <stuartsierra> The actual file contents should to be the same, since all the instances started from the same image.
[14:26] <adam5637> ..
[14:27] <Ari-Yang> convoi, after you update, come back here on IRC #ubuntu channel and tell me how it goes
[14:27] <convoi> ok Ari-Yang, thank you. you really thoughtful
[14:27] <somsip> stuartsierra: I agree.
[14:27] <oliphant>  I installed ubuntu with win 7
[14:28] <oliphant> and am unable to boot into windows
[14:28] <stuartsierra> I'm going to try launching an instance from the base Ubuntu image and see what is there.
[14:28] <oliphant> the grub loader lists win 7 but it does not boot
[14:28] <oliphant> i tried boot-repair but still the same
[14:28] <Ari-Yang> convoi, happy to help, and this is what your line should look like GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash pcie_aspm=force radeon.dpm=1"
[14:28] <convoi> ^^
[14:29] <Ari-Yang> you installing it now?
[14:29] <convoi> i'm downloading
[14:29] <Ari-Yang> ah
[14:29] <Ari-Yang> the one for 32bit, yes?
[14:29] <convoi> yes
[14:29] <oliphant> any suggestions i havent deleted the windows partitons
[14:29] <Ari-Yang> convoi, nice, (which wouldn't be the one marked as amd64)
[14:30] <oliphant> here is the boot-repair log http://paste.ubuntu.com/6010379/
[14:31] <BluesKaj> oliphant, I have to ask , have you run sudo update-grub since booting into ubuntu?
[14:31] <convoi> anyone from vietnam? ^^
[14:32] <oliphant> no i installed the boot-repair app the moment i figured that I wasn't able to boot in win7
[14:32] <BluesKaj> oliphant, are you on the live-media or are you booted into ubuntu ?
[14:32] <Ari-Yang> convoi, (I missed any msgs you sent after my latest one because I d/ced)
[14:33] <wilee-nilee> oliphant, YOU have installed grub in the windows boot, follow this link. http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/bootinfoscript/index.php?title=Boot_Problems:Boot_Sector
[14:33] <oliphant> right now i am booted into ubuntu but i can boot through the usb
[14:33] <wilee-nilee> oliphant, sda2 shows grub there.
[14:34] <convoi> nothing important Ari-Yang, i just blah blah blah ^^
[14:34] <Ari-Yang> ah okay :b
[14:35] <convoi> anyone from vietnam giơ tay lên!!! ^^
[14:36] <meenal> Hi, my ubuntu login screen is freezed , the rescue terminal still works , I tried "sudo apt-get update && sudo dist-upgrade" , as suggested in one of the online forums, but it does not work for me . Can someone please suggest a fix.
[14:36] <ActionPa1snip> meenal: can you type at all?
[14:37] <meenal> ActionPa1snip : in the homescreen I can type in the password, but then the mouse pointer and the screen freeze
[14:37] <meenal> I can enter into the rescue terminal and type stuff there
[14:37] <convoi> OMG, my laptop temperature is 96 C now, it'll shutdown at 100 C
[14:37] <ActionPa1snip> meenal: can you log in as guest>
[14:37] <BluesKaj> oliphant, did you run sudo update-grub ?
[14:38] <oliphant> wilee-nilee: i have a partition with windows recovery on it and the other with windows which one should i choose when running testdisc
[14:38] <meenal> ActionPa1snip, let me try doing that
[14:38] <convoi> 99 C... goodbye!
[14:38] <wilee-nilee> oliphant, sda2 is where the problem is
[14:39] <wilee-nilee> sda2 is C
[14:39] <meenal> ActionPa1snip, i can enter into guest but that too freezes on entering
[14:40] <ActionPa1snip> meenal: try a different session type
[14:40] <ActionPa1snip> meenal: preferably one without compositing
[14:40] <meenal> ActionPa1snip:  Looks like the keyboard works fne , its the cursor thats freezing out
[14:41] <meenal> should I try a different session type for that too ?
[14:41] <Ari-Yang> convoi, you going to reboot?
[14:41] <ActionPa1snip> meenal: try unplugging and replugging in the mouse one you log in (I assue you use a usb mouse)
[14:41] <stuartsierra> Interesting. On the AMI I'm using, /etc/apt/sources.list is written by cloud-init on startup.
[14:41] <meenal> ActionPa1snip: I work on a laptop, not sure if thats an option here :\
[14:41] <stuartsierra> Maybe my Packer script is running before cloud-init finishes.
[14:42] <meenal> nope , no usb mouse
[14:42] <newp> Hey folks, I'm back with yet another problem I've never countered or know how to fix.
[14:42] <ActionPa1snip> meenal: do you have a usb mouse?
[14:42] <stuartsierra> That might explain the inconsistent failures.
[14:42] <meenal> ActionPa1snip: No
[14:44] <Sna4x8> After a recent update, my sound hiccups like crazy.  Any input on how to fix the problem?
[14:44] <calwig> Hi, how can a print job be sent via CLI
[14:44] <ActionPa1snip> meenal: install xfce4 and log in to that session, is it better?
[14:44] <newp> when booting up, after selecting the kernel/operating system I want to boot into, when I select Ubuntu it just flickers w/ a purple screen then hangs on a blank black screen.
[14:44] <meenal> ActionPa1snip: trying ..
[14:44] <ActionPa1snip> calwig: what sort of file?
[14:44] <calwig> its a PDF
[14:45] <ActionPa1snip> calwig: those are super easy
[14:45] <calwig> push it straight to port 9100 RAW
[14:45] <ActionPa1snip> calwig: I believe its:   lp filename.pdf
[14:46] <calwig> ah
[14:46] <newp> I'll wait on queue
[14:46] <ActionPa1snip> calwig: sorry,   lpr filename.pdf
[14:47] <stuartsierra> Yes, adding a delay to my Packer provisioning script made it work.
[14:47] <calwig> thx!
[14:47] <stuartsierra> Thanks for your help, somsip.
[14:47] <wilee-nilee> newp, Have you installed a graphic driver from the manufacturer of them say...nvidia?
[14:48] <newp> hey wilee lol, yes unfortunately.
[14:48] <somsip> stuartsierra: so the instance wasn;t fully loaded, including the AWS fixes, before the update script kicked in?
[14:49] <newp> this is the same machine you helped me w/ yesterday.  it was booting fine & now all of a sudden it hangs after selecting the kernel at boot
[14:49] <stuartsierra> somsip: That appears to be the case. cloud-init modifies /etc/apt/sources.list in the background on boot.
[14:49] <ActionPa1snip> meenal: its fun to convert everything to pdf or ps then use the sme command, easy printing in CLI
[14:49] <wilee-nilee> newp, They do not follow kernel ujpgrades we just had one, you can get in with the kernel before this most likely, and fix it, I'm not up on the fix. use the repos drivers.
[14:49] <somsip> stuartsierra: I thought it did something like that, with them being different for different regions so can't be hard-coded in the AMI. Glad you got it sorted though :)
[14:49] <wilee-nilee> ubuntu repos*
[14:50] <newp> I'm a bit of a Ubuntu newp.. how do I go about that?
[14:50] <meenal> ActionPa1snip: i am using rescue terminal..looks like my "sudo apt-get install" is not working
[14:51] <nyuszika7h> anyone got an idea why the alert sound isn't working on beep? it works in the sound settings, but not in terminals or anywhere else
[14:51] <wilee-nilee> newp, At the boot menu there is access to other kernels I forget its exact name, if you get to the desk top I believe this command should work. sudo apt-get purge nvidia*  sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[14:54] <newp> wilee:  you mean the recovery console & drop to root shell prompt?  I booted into there & updated packages + updated the grup bootloader.  it then sent me to a black prompt screen & asked me to login
[14:55] <newp> however, even though I put in the correct login/pw it said they were incorrect.
[14:55] <wilee-nilee> newp, No it is another I just forget the name of it hold on.
[14:56] <wilee-nilee> newp, previous linux versions or something like that. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Submenus
[14:56] <newp> okay, thank you wilee.  you are a lifesaver for newbs like me.
[14:56] <wilee-nilee> newp, Lets wait and see if this fixes it, before we declare that. ;)
[14:57] <newp> lol
[14:57] <wilee-nilee> newp, I'm in it to serve myself, glad you could be a part of it, lol.
[14:58] <newp> rebooting now, though I don't remember having the previous versions selection seeing this is a fresh install from last night
[14:59] <newp> yeah I don't get the previous versions option
[14:59] <wilee-nilee> newp, Ah you most likely had a kernel upgrade, and this adds that nottation.
[14:59] <meenal> ActionPa1snip: running "sudo apt-get install xfce4" asks to run apt-get -f install which shows http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=8EbEajqS
[14:59] <wilee-nilee> newp, So did you reboot to a working desktop originally then installed the nvidia from them?
[15:00] <meenal> this is the problem with any "apt-gt install" command i try
[15:00] <yepyep_> Question.  I'm trying to convert to GPT and I accidentally overwrote an extended partition which contained an LVM logical partition
[15:00] <ActionPa1snip> meenal: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[15:01] <yepyep_> the extended partition is gone, but the logical partition appears to be still intact according to gparted
[15:01] <ActionPa1snip> meenal: its a single line, so you can paste in here direct
[15:01] <yepyep_> how can I recreate the extended partititon with the logical partition inside?
[15:01] <meenal> Ubuntu 13.04 \n \l
[15:02] <k1l> meenal: which ubuntu is that exactly? what PPAs do you have (ls -al /etc/apt/sources.list.d), what does apt-get install -f bring?
[15:02] <ActionPa1snip> meenal: then I suggest you contact the ppa maintainer
[15:02] <newp> I have: "Ubuntu with Linux 3.5.0-23-generic, Ubuntu with Linux 3.5.0-23-generic (recovery mode), Memory test (memtest85+), Memory test (memtest86+, serial console 115200), Windows Recovery Enviorment (loader) (on /dev/sda2), Windows 8 (loader) (on /dev/sda2) & System setup
[15:03] <wilee-nilee> yepyep_, lvm is encrypted I doubt that any of that is recoverable at this point, from your description, but thats a guess.
[15:03] <newp> I booted into a working desktop after you helped me get it installed last night
[15:03] <ActionPa1snip> meenal: the packages you have, have overlapping files. This is frequent in PPAs as they are unofiicial package sources
[15:04] <wilee-nilee> newp, so when you boot now how far do you get
[15:04] <k1l> meenal: if you search for that package libwayland-client0_1.2.0-0ubuntu1~13.04~ricotz0_i386.deb  you will find lots of users with problems.
[15:04] <newp> updated the system & shut down for the night.  I woke up & now it's doing this
[15:04] <k1l> meenal: use ppa-purge to get rid of that PPA
[15:04] <ActionPa1snip> meenal: we cannot support PPAs here. Contact the maintainer direct and tell him/her all the things you told me and they will tweak the packages
[15:04] <newp> now I just get to the GNU GRUB screen where you select out of those options I mentioned above
[15:04] <wilee-nilee> newp, what happens if you choose the ubuntu boot?
[15:05] <meenal> k1l:
[15:05] <ActionPa1snip> meenal: if you start adding 3rd party sources for packages, don't be surprised if you get issues
[15:05] <newp> it flickers w/ a purple screen & the Ubuntu loading bar (just for a quick second) then flickers to a black screen and hangs until I reboot
[15:05] <yepyep_> wilee-nilee: lvm's encrypted by default?
[15:05] <wilee-nilee> yepyep_, I believe so not sure really.
[15:06] <meenal> i wont be able to give the output for (ls -al /etc/apt/sources.list.d)...cursor freeze
[15:06] <meenal> ActionPa1snip: so do i need to remove the ppas
[15:06] <k1l> meenal: without the ( )
[15:07] <ActionPa1snip> meenal: yes
[15:07] <yepyep_> what if i just delete the logical partition, put a new extended partitition, recreate the logical partition and reread the lvm metadata?
[15:07] <wilee-nilee> newp, YOu can run that earlier command from what is known as a tty a command setup, by hitting ctrl-alt f1 logging in run the command then reboot.
[15:07] <newp> I can't even boot into Windows 8 either.  it says "error: unknown command 'drivemap' "error: invalid EFI path."
[15:07] <newp> I'm less concerned with that though, lol...
[15:07] <meenal> k11...i have tried the command without ()
[15:07] <wilee-nilee> newp, You do ythis after hitting the ubuntu boot and wait about a minute.
[15:07] <yepyep_> *put a new extended partition in its place.  the logical partition filled the extended part
[15:07] <k1l> meenal: just worked here. there is alot wrong with your system then
[15:08] <Peanut> I have a brand-new machine, running 3.8.0-27, and it's just started crashing on 'BUG: unable to handle kernel paging request'. I did a reboot, it happened again a bit later (while doing an apt-get dist-upgrade to get the latest kernel installed). Any known issues with the kernel I have? (Raring).
[15:08] <newp> huh?
[15:08] <newp> you're losing me lol
[15:08] <oooooooooooooooo> hi
[15:08] <wilee-nilee> newp, Hmm, I'm wondering if there is more wrong here than just drivers from nvidia if windows does not boot, did it before?
[15:09] <meenal> k1l: no the command is working fine but my system has freezed so i won't beable to tell you the output...i am working in rescur terminal
[15:09] <norjor> How can I map tab key to another key ? (my tab button is annihilated)
[15:09] <oooooooooooooooo> kk
[15:09] <ActionPa1snip> Peanut: i'd check ram from memtest86+
[15:09] <squig> hey I was wondering if there was a way to tell the system to build all its required kernel module again with dkms
[15:09] <meenal> ActionPa1snip: but removing the ppas might cause some error with previous installation
[15:09] <newp> yes but I think it may have to do with the fact that I've still got Secureboot & Fastboot disabled in the bios seeing I had to do that to install Ubuntu last night
[15:09] <squig> Ive never had to do it, but some thing is broken on one of my machines
[15:09] <ActionPa1snip> meenal: this is why you shouldnt add PPAs
[15:10] <yepyep_> norjor: xmodmap will do the trick if you only need it for X11
[15:10] <newp> I'll put them back on & check quickly right now
[15:10] <Peanut> ActionPa1snip: "Kernel Panic - not syncing: fatal exception in interrupt" - looks like I'll have to boot again anyway. I'll try memtest.
[15:10] <wilee-nilee> newp, Ah a uefi setup, that is really key info, I know nothing about that, so disregard my instructions in general.
[15:10] <norjor> yepyep Im using awesome wm
[15:11] <norjor> will it work then?
[15:11] <newp> lol
[15:11] <newp> you helped me disable it & get Ubuntu installed last night so don't sell yourself short
[15:11] <wilee-nilee> newp, details are the key, but you can most likely get this fixed you just need the right help. I would make a thread at the ubuntu forums and have uefi in the thread header the best help is there.
[15:12] <meenal> ActionPa1snip: i require the ppas..is there any workaround?
[15:12] <yepyep_> Should work on any X11 window manager.  If you need to work with virtual terminals, however, it won't use the key swap
[15:12] <wilee-nilee> newp, It was not me I wont touch uefi with a ten foot pole if I know thats whats up. ;)
[15:12] <newp> okay, will do.
[15:12] <newp> lol maybe I am mistaken
[15:13] <yepyep_> I have capslock swapped with escape, and control swapped with alt on X11 using xmodmap and it works across all WMs I've tried (gnome, xfce, xmonad)
[15:13] <newp> and yeah, I put back the original UEFI setting (turned on Secure & Fastboot) and not it allows me to boot into crappy Windows again as I suspected
[15:13] <Vlyn> Hello there! I'm searching for an Ubuntu theme. When I watched the movie Elysium I fell in love with this interface: http://i.imgur.com/BGtTmzv.jpg (Of course it was better in the cinema). So I'm searching something similar as a Theme. Good tags would be glass (or glass like) but I haven't found anything suitable :-/ anyone got an idea?
[15:14] <wilee-nilee> newp, There is an admin at the UF who specializes in the uefi problems look for there help, they will stop by your thread most likely.
[15:14] <newp> will do
[15:14] <norjor> Uhm anyone know the name of the button with ½ in xmodmap
[15:14] <newp> thanks for trying to help either way bud
[15:14] <wilee-nilee> newp, cool there is help here at times but it is a complex situation at times is all.
[15:14] <wilee-nilee> no problem
[15:22] <michagogo> Is it a bad thing to run sudo apt-get upgrade if qemu-kvm is one of the upgrades to be installed and there's a VM running?
[15:22] <michagogo> Or will it fail gracefully?
[15:23] <michagogo> (or something else?)
[15:23] <atrius`> michagogo: are you worried about the vm restarting or something?
[15:23] <michagogo> atrius`: Just wondering what will happen
[15:23] <wilee-nilee> newp, The author of this thread is that mod, and this is good info as well to look at, since you mentioned the change of the uefi boots windows. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2147295
[15:23] <atrius`> michagogo: i'd expect not much.. which is to say the VM shouldn't get restarted nor should it be impacted. that said, i'd test it somewhere if this is a production concern
[15:24] <newp> wilee:  thank you once again :)
[15:24] <wilee-nilee> ;)
[15:24] <ntzrmtthihu777> hmm. after installind ubuntu-desktop and rebooting it does not give me the option to use the unity desktop :/
[15:25] <newp> I should probably eat something before I continue.  been up a while at this, lol..
[15:26] <wilee-nilee> keep up the carb intake sugar makes the brain run
[15:26] <ntzrmtthihu777> wilee-nilee: truth, lol. I live on carbs and am thin as a rail XD
[15:26] <ezra-s> drink a lot too
[15:26] <ezra-s> water
[15:27] <ntzrmtthihu777> also on another note my system time is quite ahead, any easy fix to that?
[15:30] <usr13> ntzrmtthihu777: sudo ntpdate pool.ntp.org
[15:31] <usr13> ntzrmtthihu777: How far ahead?  (Do you have time zone settings correct?)
[15:32] <ntzrmtthihu777> usr13: that did it, thankyou. I had the proper timezone, but it was saying 3pm at 8am XD
[15:32] <ntzrmtthihu777> so, now to get me into unity >:D
[15:33] <usr13> ntzrmtthihu777: It is not booting to unity?  (What exactly *does* it do?)
[15:34] <j0llyr0tten> hey, does anyone when you make a startup disk on first install does it wipe the USB stick or just use some of the free space?
[15:34] <j0llyr0tten> it seems like it uses the free space (as there is a separate erase disk button)
[15:34] <usr13> ntzrmtthihu777: At any rate, at the login screen, you should see the option to start a session with any of the various Desktop Environments that are installed.
[15:35] <j0llyr0tten> i've been away from ubuntu for a while (over in Macbook land) so i'm not up to date on the ins and outs
[15:35] <ntzrmtthihu777> usr13: it doesn't show ubuntu/unity/whatever at the xububuntu-gtk-greeter dropdown
[15:36] <usr13> ntzrmtthihu777: What do you have installed?
[15:36] <ntzrmtthihu777> j0llyr0tten: I've had both happen, lol.
[15:36] <ntzrmtthihu777> usr13: what do you mean by what? I installed ubuntu-desktop via apt-get on top of xubuntu 13.04, if that's what you mean.
[15:37] <Kartagis> what's with the 'Ambigious output redirect' when I try ssh-copy-id?
[15:37] <j0llyr0tten> ntzrmtthihu777: urk! i got a Dell XPS with Ubuntu pre-installed. it is asking to make a startup disk ...
[15:37] <usr13> ntzrmtthihu777: Yea, that is the information I wanted. Did you reboot after installing ubuntu-desktop?
[15:37] <ntzrmtthihu777> usr13: yep.
[15:37] <usr13> ntzrmtthihu777: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[15:38] <pragmasoft> quit
[15:39] <ntzrmtthihu777> usr13: did that.
[15:40] <usr13> ntzrmtthihu777: Did it do anything?
[15:40] <usr13> ntzrmtthihu777: If so, and it completed the task without errors, try rebooting again.
[15:40] <ntzrmtthihu777> usr13: you want me to install ubuntu-desktop again?
[15:40] <usr13> ntzrmtthihu777: Or, you may only need to log out and back in again.  (Not sure.)
[15:41] <usr13> ntzrmtthihu777: Yes.
[15:41] <usr13> ntzrmtthihu777: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[15:41] <GunArm> is it bad to run fsck on a mounted partition?
[15:41] <ikonia> very
[15:42] <Kartagis> what's with the 'Ambigious output redirect' when I try ssh-copy-id?
[15:42] <GunArm> ok then thx
[15:42] <ntzrmtthihu777> usr13: I'll do it again, but I don't see how performing the same command will change the result :P
[15:42] <ikonia> Kartagis: what do you mean, "what's with it"
[15:42] <Kartagis> ikonia: I mean 'why am I getting it?'
[15:42] <ikonia> Kartagis: what's the command you are running
[15:42] <usr13> ntzrmtthihu777: It will not change the result, but it will tell you if you have already installed it or not.  If it was not really installed, or the install process wasn't completed, it will finish it.
[15:43] <Kartagis> ikonia: ssh-copy-id -i .ssh/id_rsa.pub mtozses@flow.sabanciuniv.edu
[15:44] <usr13> ntzrmtthihu777: If it is already installed, it will say so, (something to the effect, "ubuntu-desktop" is already installed and is latest version").  If it did not complet the install process before, it will pick up where it left off and finish or repair as needed.
[15:44] <ntzrmtthihu777> usr13: it completed with no errors, which is why I'm puzzled. I personally prefer xfce, but this is a multitouch device so I'd like to give the new unity a go on it :P
[15:44] <usr13> ntzrmtthihu777: Ok then, log out and back in again, (see if you get option for unity).
[15:44] <ntzrmtthihu777> usr13: yes, I understand that, but I'm not such a new user to ubuntu to not know whether something installed proper XD. but, I'll humour you on this.
[15:45] <ikonia> Kartagis: is the target valid in terms of existing directories ?
[15:45] <ikonia> Kartagis: is the key actually updated on the remote machine
[15:46] <Kartagis> ikonia: I think so and no
[15:46] <exidos> This Ubuntu-IRC-Channel is awesome folks! ;) yeah
[15:46] <ikonia> Kartagis: what do you mean - I think so, please check
[15:46] <usr13> ntzrmtthihu777: Ok, here is the problem;  I do not know what you have done what is not done. I do not know your level of knowledge either.  The quickest/easiest thing to do (first off) is to try the command to install it.
[15:46] <Kartagis> ikonia: but the target doesn't have /home, it has /home3
[15:46] <Kartagis> 2
[15:46] <Peanut> ActionPa1snip: Too bad, the machine won't even boot, it's completely dead now, never made it to memtest. At least it's under warranty.
[15:46] <Ntemis> hello
[15:46] <ikonia> Kartagis: that shouldn't matter
[15:46] <exidos> hi Ntemis
[15:47] <Ntemis> need help fix my monitor resolution and refresh on ati radeon
[15:47] <Ntemis> hi
[15:47] <Kartagis> ikonia: should I check for an existing .ssh or so?
[15:47] <usr13> ntzrmtthihu777: So, let us know if it does anything or not and we can go from there.  (Basically, just tell us what the last line says.)
[15:47] <Kartagis> ikonia: .ssh exists though
[15:47] <Ntemis> refresh is 0hz
[15:47] <Ntemis> and resolution is wrong
[15:47] <exidos> What radeon driver have you installed?
[15:47] <Ntemis> way wrong
[15:48] <Ntemis> the latest legacy ones
[15:48] <Ntemis> 13.1
[15:48] <Ntemis> i have a 4870
[15:48] <ikonia> Kartagis: does that key file actually exist
[15:48] <exidos> Free or propritary?
[15:48] <Ntemis> pro
[15:48] <adamk_> Ntemis, You really need to use the open source drivers with that GPU.
[15:48] <ikonia> Kartagis: if you read the script it does the following f expr "$1" : ".*\.pub" > /dev/null ; then
[15:48] <Kartagis> ikonia: yes
[15:48] <Ntemis> np
[15:48] <ikonia> Kartagis: I suspect that is the ambigious output
[15:48] <Ntemis> guide me through it and i will
[15:48] <adamk_> Ntemis, Otherwise you need to downgrade all of Xorg, which is not something I think many people would recommend.
[15:49] <Ntemis> nope
[15:49] <Ntemis> i want the open source ones then
[15:49] <Ntemis> please
[15:49] <adamk_> Ntemis, There's not much to guide.  The open source drivers were installed and  used by default till you installed the legacy proprietary driver, so uninstall the legacy proprietary driver.
[15:49] <Ntemis> and thanks for your time helping me
[15:49] <exidos> Ntemis, I think in the ubuntu wiki you will find all you have to know how to install the free driver
[15:49] <ikonia> Kartagis: use -i with just the name of the key file - not the full path
[15:49] <Kartagis> ikonia: it works perfectly on another server though
[15:49] <Ntemis> how i unistall propriertary?
[15:49] <arazhil> hi
[15:49] <ikonia> Kartagis: that suggests there is something wrong with the target server
[15:50] <adamk_> Ntemis, That depends on how you installed it in the first place.
[15:50] <Ntemis> 3 files from amd
[15:50] <arazhil> someone know how can i get text beside my icon desktop
[15:50] <Ntemis> fglrx-dev_8.970-0ubuntu1_amd64.deb fglrx_8.970-0ubuntu1_amd64.deb fglrx-amdcccle_8.970-0ubuntu1_amd64.deb
[15:51] <newp> quick question:  how to I disable/toggled nomodeset in 12.04?  I'm unable to boot into Ubuntu.
[15:51] <Ntemis> after i run their driver
[15:51] <adamk_> Ntemis, Use 'sudo apt-get remove fglrx*'
[15:51] <Ntemis> created those packages
[15:51] <Kartagis> ikonia: oh, I got the problem, perms is 700 on the remote server
[15:51] <usr13> !nomodeset | newp
[15:51] <Ntemis> then i use dpkg -i to install all
[15:51] <Kartagis> .ssh perms that is
[15:51] <arazhil> someone know how can i get text beside my icon desktop
[15:51] <exidos> adamk, i thin dpkg is a better way, isnt it? Ntemis
[15:51] <ikonia> Kartagis: it's also possible the terminal/login setup is scewed with odd chars on the target server, that is also worth checking
[15:51] <newp> ty usr13
[15:51] <adamk_> exidos, Why do you think it's better?
[15:52] <exidos> adamk, in the last weeks, i had some problems with the uninstall via apt, with dpkg it ran allways.
[15:52] <Ntemis> sudo apt-get remove fglrx* no go
[15:52] <Ntemis> :(
[15:52] <Ntemis> log coming
[15:52] <arazhil> someone know how can i get text beside my icon desktop
[15:52] <usr13> arazhil: Not sure we know what you want to do.  (It is not clear to me and I'm thinking others are at a loss as well.  Restate your issue with more detail.)
[15:53] <usr13> arazhil: (Don't just keep saying the same thing.)
[15:53] <exidos> Ntemis, You have to use the hole package name
[15:53] <Ntemis> http://pastebin.com/sGU2nVS5
[15:53] <Ntemis> logfile
[15:53] <moondog> my motd seems to be messed up today... http://pastebin.com/bAYQWxCL
[15:53] <Ntemis> please help me thanks
[15:53] <exidos> Ntemis, a second
[15:53] <Ntemis> exidos: like?
[15:53] <moondog> I have two machines running identical versions of Ubuntu
[15:53] <moondog> one has the problem, the other doesn't
[15:54] <adamk_> Ntemis, Don't run that command in a directory that has the fglrx deb packages.  Change to another directory first.
[15:54] <Ntemis> oh
[15:54] <Ntemis> :)
[15:54] <Ntemis> didnt know that
[15:55] <adamk_> Ntemis, Alternatively, you can run the command and use the full package names as exidos suggested, without the *:   'sudo apt-get remove fglrx-installer fglrx-dev fglrx'
[15:55] <Ntemis> The following packages will be REMOVED:
[15:55] <Ntemis>   fglrx fglrx-amdcccle fglrx-dev
[15:55] <Ntemis> go ahead?
[15:56] <exidos> and Ntemis, use -purge to uninstall it. It uninstall all dependencies of this package.
[15:56] <adamk_> Ntemis, Yes, go ahead.
[15:56] <Ntemis> sudo apt-get --purge fglrx*
[15:56] <Ntemis> do i need remove word also?
[15:56] <Ntemis> sudo apt-get remove --purge fglrx*
[15:56] <Ntemis> ?
[15:57] <exidos> yes Ntemis
[15:57] <exidos> Ntemis, go ahead
[15:57] <adamk_> Ntemis, You need remove, but I don't personally think you need --purge in this case, though it can't hurt.
[15:58] <Franz_____> Can I ask a question regarding my problem of installing Ubuntu 12.04 or 13.04
[15:58] <usr13> Franz_____: Yes
[15:58] <Ntemis> its reconfiguring kernel
[15:58] <servvs> I am having trouble removing a program, I am typing sudo dpkg -r appname but I keep receiving an error saying that  Options marked [*] produce a lot of output - pipe it through `less' or `more' !
[15:58] <Ntemis> ok done
[15:58] <Ntemis> now how i get the opensource ones?
[15:59] <usr13> servvs: Try apt-get remove appname
[15:59] <adamk_> Ntemis, They should still be installed... Theoretically you just need to reboot now.
[15:59] <Ntemis> am afraid
[15:59] <exidos> okay
[15:59] <Ntemis> do i need to aticonfig initial?
[15:59] <adamk_> Ntemis, No.
[15:59] <Ntemis> so reboot only?
[16:00] <exidos> Ntemis, you have to reboot only
[16:00] <shashankg> I installed ubuntu 13.04 today. I cannot change my screen birghtness using the brightness keys or brightness and lock from settings. It is fixed to maximum value.
[16:00] <Ntemis> ok be back (i hope)
[16:00] <adamk_> Ntemis, Does /etc/X11/xorg.conf exist?
[16:00] <ActionPa1snip> Peanut: if you can get to BIOS, set it to defaults.
[16:00] <Ntemis> let me check
[16:00] <newp> omg this new laptop is driving me insane
[16:00] <Nach0z> newp: sup
[16:00] <ActionPa1snip> Peanut: depending on warranty, you may simply need to unplug the PC and remove the CMOS battery overnight, then back together and boot
[16:00] <exidos> adamk, the new x-servers has autoconfig, hasnt it?
[16:01] <Ntemis> yes
[16:01] <ActionPa1snip> Peanut: dont void warranty though
[16:01] <Ntemis> i have 3
[16:01] <exidos> 3?
[16:01] <adamk_> exidos, Yes, but the AMD driver probably created an xorg.conf file that can cause problems when using the open source drivers.
[16:01] <Ntemis> yes
[16:01] <exidos> ahh the logs bevor
[16:01] <exidos> ahh ok aam
[16:01] <Ntemis> xorg conf original0
[16:01] <servvs> usr13 that isn't working either
[16:01] <exidos> ahh ok adamk
[16:01] <Ntemis> xorg conf original1
[16:01] <Ntemis> xorg conf.BAK
[16:01] <newp> Nach0z:  everything is going wrong.  wilee was trying to help me but UEFI was a bit much
[16:01] <Franz_____> My problem: I am trying to install Ubuntu on a new machine. I tried BIOS and UEFI, same error for both. When I try to create a partition using GParted on Ubuntu Live, GParted shows the whole disk as unpartitioned, saying "/dev/sda: unrecognized label". If I create the gpt table in a Gparted Live DVD, everything works fine, if I then try to install Ubuntu once again, it says: "The creation of swap space in partition #3 of SCSI5 (0,1
[16:01] <adamk_> Ntemis, Just /etc/X11/xorg.conf ...  Nothing after it.
[16:01] <pepper_chico> Is there a way to set a shortcut to unhide the Ubuntu Launcher, but not opening the Dash search?
[16:01] <Ntemis> and the xorg.conf
[16:02] <Ntemis> 4
[16:02] <Ntemis> accually
[16:02] <exidos> this is the right one Ntemis
[16:02] <usr13> servvs: What error did you get?
[16:02] <adamk_> Ntemis, Just run 'sudo rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf'
[16:02] <Ntemis> so reboot?
[16:02] <adamk_> Ntemis, *Then* reboot.
[16:02] <Ntemis> okey
[16:02] <newp> Nach0z:  do you know UEFI?
[16:02] <Franz_____> ... in an error message, leaving the disk in the state as described before.
[16:02] <Ntemis> so remove the xorg.conf?
[16:02] <exidos> yes N
[16:02] <Ntemis> will this be ok?
[16:02] <exidos> yes Ntemis
[16:02] <Ntemis> kk
[16:03] <ActionPa1snip> Franz_____: if you make all the partitions in gparted then boot install cd, is it ok?
[16:03] <Ntemis> done
[16:03] <Ntemis> is deleted
[16:03] <exidos> fine Ntemis
[16:03] <Ntemis> i hope i can boot
[16:03] <servvs> usr13 I got it fixed now, when doing dpkg -r I was referring to the program with an incorrect name
[16:03] <Ntemis> thanks a lot
[16:04] <phyzix5761> hey guys I messed something up. :(
[16:04] <Franz_____> ActionPa1snip: you mean directly boot into setup, rather than going into the Live DVD Mode of Ubuntu first?
[16:04] <phyzix5761> I installed a different version of a driver to see if a program would work and now my laptop trackpad doesnt work
[16:04] <pepper_chico> I'm using ubuntu on Parallels for OS X, the sad thing is that Parallels has some mouse related issues and as it's currently it can't unhide the launcher by mouse pointer proximity, so I need a shortcut, but pressing the command/"windows" key shows the launcher but opens the dash search
[16:04] <phyzix5761> I think it was the driver because I didn't change anything else
[16:04] <ActionPa1snip> Franz_____: make the partitions in the gparted cd, boot to Ubuntu install CD and install to the newly made partitions
[16:05] <phyzix5761> How do I know which driver to install again to see if that is the issue?
[16:05] <pepper_chico> I'd like to have the launcher opening without the dash search, just an unhide
[16:05] <usr13> servvs: Ok, thanks for letting us know what the error was.  Glad you figured it out.
[16:05] <Ntemis> THANK YOU guys
[16:05] <Ntemis> am back
[16:05] <Ntemis> You rock
[16:05] <Franz_____> ActionPa1snip: didn't work for BIOS, but I'll try it for UEFI now. Can I send a log or so afterwards? (Which one is important?)
[16:05] <Ntemis> cant thank you enough for this!
[16:05] <usr13> phyzix5761: Uninstall the last one you installed first.
[16:06] <phyzix5761> usr13 ok I will try to remember which one it was.
[16:06] <Ntemis> is there a way sm player not to play fast forward the videos with open source driver?
[16:06] <Ntemis> shall i test xorg edges
[16:06] <rickyl> Hey, I'm new here and I'm curious about how my operating system works. For example, how do programs access the filesystem and make changes to it?
[16:07] <usr13> phyzix5761: ls -tr /var/lib/dpkg/info/   #Will show last ones last on the list.
[16:07] <daftykins> rickyl: sorry this channel is for support questions, not homework help
[16:07] <phyzix5761> ah ok thank you usr13
[16:08] <pepper_chico> rickyl, through an application programming interface, which are just just functions that programs can call
[16:08] <usr13> phyzix5761: If you need to see dates;  ls -ltr /var/lib/dpkg/info/
[16:08] <rickyl> daftykins: I'm not working on homework. I'm self-studying because I'm curious. What other IRC channel would you recommend?
[16:08] <newp> why is it saying my login/pw is incorrect when I try to login through a basic commad line
[16:08] <servvs> I have some KDE dependencies and libraries installed now that I don't think I need anymore. Is there any quick way to remove them?
[16:09] <newp> says Ubuntu 12.04.2 LTS username tty1 at top
[16:09] <rickyl> pepper_chico: How would I access the API of my OS in code that I would write myself?
[16:09] <newp> then asks for my login, I enter that & asks for my pw.  but no matter what I enter it says incorrect.
[16:09] <usr13> newp: More-than-likely because the login ID or  password you are using is incorrect.
[16:09] <pepper_chico> rickyl, some programming channel would be better, for things like filesystem, maybe some knowledge of POSIX would be interesting
[16:09] <pepper_chico> and there're posix channels of freenode I think
[16:09] <newp> I dont see how that's possible..
[16:09] <rickyl> Okay, thanks
[16:10] <phyzix5761> usr13, it's xserver-xorg-video-vmware-lts-quantal but I can't seem to remove it. it says it's not installed
[16:10] <usr13> newp: Both login ID and password are case sensitive.
[16:10] <Ntemis> SMPlayer is playing videos too fast with open source Ati driver (legacy HD4870) any way around?
[16:10] <newp> it's a fresh install of Ubuntu, I only set one username/pw & it doesn't work.  neither does the default
[16:11] <newp> I know.  I even tried other passwords I use just in case I sleepwalked & changed it or something (lol)
[16:11] <wilee-nilee> newp, Are you going from the recovery to a tty?
[16:11] <newp> yes
[16:11] <babinlonston> I have more than 100 files and now i want to remove the Number in it, and i want to add some words and Numeric in order How can i rename multiple file in one Shot command
[16:11] <wilee-nilee> newp, I think you need to have it read and write I believe at the recivery it is just read, just a guess.
[16:11] <usr13> phyzix5761: apt-get purge package-name-here
[16:12] <phyzix5761> ok
[16:12] <pepper_chico> rickyl, I'm talking almost about the lowest level you have provided for an user mode application, which is posix access, but other languages and libraries may build another API on top of the lowest API's
[16:12] <pepper_chico> oh
[16:12] <newp> I'm about to return this stupid laptop.  I've never had grief like this when installing & running Ubuntu.
[16:12] <pepper_chico> gone..
[16:12] <pepper_chico> well anyway, no one have an idea about ^
[16:12] <pepper_chico> Is there a way to set a shortcut to unhide the Ubuntu Launcher, but not opening the Dash search?
[16:12] <pepper_chico> ^
[16:12] <wilee-nilee> newp, Is there a mount notation at the recovery gui
[16:12] <phyzix5761> ok usr13 thats done
[16:13] <pepper_chico> I'm using ubuntu on Parallels for OS X, the sad thing is that Parallels has some mouse related issues and as it's currently it can't unhide the launcher by mouse pointer proximity, so I need a shortcut, but pressing the command/"windows" key shows the launcher but opens the dash search
[16:13] <usr13> newp: See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LostPassword
[16:13] <wilee-nilee> or recovery cli basically
[16:13] <newp> what do you mean by mount notation?
[16:13] <wilee-nilee> newp, I thought that there was a line for mounting the OS something like that anyway.
[16:13] <wilee-nilee> for read and write
[16:14] <usr13> phyzix5761: So, what exactly were you trying to install?
[16:14] <phyzix5761> I was trying to get the voice chat to work on the second life Firestorm viewer
[16:14] <newp> maybe.. I don't know, my brain isn't working well right now.  lemme reboot into the recovery menu.
[16:15] <usr13> phyzix5761: (Did you install two pieces of driver software that are incorrect?  Or just the one?)
[16:15] <wilee-nilee> newp, I'm not sure you have a tty access from that recovery area in the first list of options.
[16:15] <phyzix5761> usr13, just the one but I remember seeing that it had removed a bunch of packages in the process
[16:15] <newp> why would is say tty1 at the top then?
[16:16] <wilee-nilee> newp, YOu may get to it but it is not functioning normally, this is a guess though.
[16:16] <newp> ah
[16:16] <matthias_> Slart: Hey, are you online?
[16:16] <newp> these are the options I get at the Recovery Menu
[16:16] <lotuspsychje> can dconf-editor show/hide icons in dash?
[16:17] <newp> resume normal boot, try to make free space, rapair brocken packages, run in failsafe graphics mode, heck all file systems, update grub bootloader, enable networking, drop to root shell prompt, system summary
[16:17] <phyzix5761> usr13, How do I find out what driver I used to have so I can install that again?
[16:18] <usr13> phyzix5761: There are a number of dependencies so it is normal to remove a bunch of other packages along with it, (especially when you use "purge").
[16:18] <Shashankg> I installed ubuntu 13.04.  I can't change my screen brightness using brghtness keys or brightness and lock in settings. It is set to max value. I have a Dell xps.
[16:18] <newp> I'm just completely lost at this point...
[16:18] <ActionPa1snip> lotuspsychje: i believe you can set that in the files in /usr/share/applications  not sure about dconf
[16:18] <usr13> phyzix5761: What makes you think there is a "driver" needed?
[16:19] <wilee-nilee> newp, I rarely have used recovery so I'm not your best help, this is attached to the ubuntu boot right?
[16:19] <usr13> phyzix5761: driver for _______________?
[16:19] <newp> yes
[16:19] <phyzix5761> I dont know. I thought when I installed this new one it removed the last one. My mouse stopped working.
[16:19] <phyzix5761> laptop trackpad usr13
[16:19] <lotuspsychje> ActionPa1snip: lemme check :p
[16:19] <usr13> phyzix5761: Is your mouse not working?
[16:19] <wilee-nilee> newp, Were you able to make a thread at the uf?
[16:19] <phyzix5761> usr13, the laptop trackpad
[16:19] <Slart> matthias_: yup
[16:20] <newp> I'm about to, I was just trying a few things first
[16:20] <usr13> phyzix5761: .... *still* not working ....?
[16:20] <ActionPa1snip> phyzix5761: what make and model laptop please?
[16:20] <phyzix5761> still not working. usr13
[16:20] <wilee-nilee> newp, cool, be careful, if you pick at it you can cause more problems.
[16:20] <usr13> phyzix5761: Give us the make and model of your laptop.
[16:20] <newp> $700 wasted on this piece of crap laptop.
[16:20] <phyzix5761> Actionnaire0213, I have a Dell Inspiron n5050
[16:20] <newp> so much for ASUS being the company I remember
[16:21] <usr13> newp: Oh come on, I'm sure it is fixable.
[16:21] <wilee-nilee> newp, Nah it is just that uefi thang is all.
[16:21] <lotuspsychje> ActionPa1snip: can i safely remove an icon from there?
[16:21] <ActionPa1snip> phyzix5761: tried Fn + F3 ?
[16:21] <newp> I'm sure it is fixable but I shouldn't have this much trouble getting an OS to work.
[16:21] <phyzix5761> Actionnaire0213, I pressed it now but it doesn't do anything
[16:21] <ActionPa1snip> lotuspsychje: you set it to 'hidden' or 'not visible' i forget the wording, read the file
[16:21] <newp> I've installed ubuntu on at least a dozen other machines & never run into problems
[16:22] <wilee-nilee> newp, You can thank MS for that. ;)
[16:22] <newp> ya I know.
[16:22] <ActionPa1snip> phyzix5761: try:  sudo modprobe -r psmouse; sleep 3; sudo modprobe psmouse
[16:22] <newp> notice I'm not blaming Ubuntu, lol.
[16:22] <Franz_____> ActionPa1snip: I tried setting up the partitions in the GParted Live disk and install ubuntu on them.. gives "THe attempt to mount a file system with type ext4 in SCSI5 (0,1,0), partition #1(sda) at / failed"
[16:22] <wilee-nilee> yeah
[16:22] <usr13> phyzix5761: ActionPa1snip   http://askubuntu.com/questions/291143/touchpad-does-not-exist  ? (Maybe?)
[16:23] <phyzix5761> Actionnaire0213, not working
[16:23] <newp> I need to take a break & eat something before I make this thread
[16:23] <newp> be back later if you're around wilee (and company)
[16:23] <phyzix5761> usr13, Actionnaire0213 should I try that link?
[16:23] <wilee-nilee> newp, cool
[16:24] <michael__> Hallo, welche Sprache wird in diesen Channel gesprochen /Hello which language will be spoken at this channel?
[16:24] <Franz_____> english
[16:24] <lotuspsychje> !de | michael__
[16:24] <michael__> thanks
[16:24] <michael__> i'm desperate
[16:24] <Peanut> Ok, this is puzzling. My presumed dead machine works fine in the rescue environment (net booted) and I have full access to my root partition. But I can't get it to boot from the SSD anymore, even after re-installing grub. Grub is not putting up the menu, kernel is not outputting anything (which it used to do). As I get no output from grub, I can't make it to the memtest.
[16:25] <usr13> phyzix5761: I don't know... still looking
[16:25] <ActionPa1snip> phyzix5761: try running: synclient TouchpadOff=0
[16:25] <ActionPa1snip> usr13: possibly
[16:25] <lotuspsychje> michael__: try to ask your issue mate
[16:25] <phyzix5761> Actionnaire0213, usr13 ok but I also saw a link that said a fix for dell laptops
[16:25] <michael__> i installed ubuntu yesterday. And i try to install my wireless lan but i wan't work
[16:25] <pepper_chico> does holding Super still shows Unity shortcuts on Ubuntu 13.04?
[16:25] <michael__> it*
[16:25] <ActionPa1snip> michael__: what wifi chip?
[16:25] <phyzix5761> Actionnaire0213, I have to install synclient
[16:25] <ActionPa1snip> phyzix5761: then install it....
[16:26] <lotuspsychje> michael__: wifi chipset and ubuntu version?
[16:26] <michael__> intel advanced-n 6300
[16:26] <pepper_chico> Super here just open the Launcher+Dash
[16:26] <wilee-nilee> phyzix5761, Your using the wrong nick, lol
[16:26] <michael__> ubuntu 13.04 64bit
[16:26] <phyzix5761> oh whoops lmao!
[16:26] <ActionPa1snip> michael__: is the OS fully updated?
[16:26] <pepper_chico> Not sure whether it's an Parallels issue or not
[16:26] <michael__> i downloaded the iso file yesterday from ubuntu.com
[16:26] <pepper_chico> any help please?
[16:26] <ActionPa1snip> pepper_chico: hold it down, a long time
[16:27] <lotuspsychje> Peanut: dualboot or single ubuntu on ssd?
[16:27] <ActionPa1snip> michael__: doesnt matter, the ISO is from April, so is 4 months out of date
[16:27] <pepper_chico> ActionPa1snip, I've tried, but nothing happened, on release, Launcher+Dash shows up
[16:27] <leeping> Hi there - I'm in the process of moving my home directory.  Previously I had the root filesystem (including /home) as the mount point for my old HD, /dev/sda1.  Now I copied /home over to /media/home, which is the mount point for my new HD, /dev/sdb1.  I know how to do the transition (i.e. set the mount point of /dev/sdb1 to /home) - but how can I access the files in the old /home directory (i.e. on /dev/sda1) once I change the mount point?
[16:27] <usr13> michael__: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[16:27] <ActionPa1snip> michael__: lots of updates since then
[16:27] <ActionPa1snip> pepper_chico: weird
[16:27] <ActionPa1snip> michael__: use a wired connection and get updates
[16:27] <Peanut> Only Ubuntu on it, so I never got the menu before, I just removed the - from hidden_timeout, made no difference.
[16:27] <phyzix5761> ok ActionPa1snip it says Couldn't find synaptics properties. No synaptics driver loaded
[16:28] <pepper_chico> ActionPa1snip, are you with 13.04?
[16:28] <Franz_____> My problem: I am trying to install Ubuntu on a new machine. I tried BIOS and UEFI, same error for both. When I try to create a partition using GParted on Ubuntu Live, GParted shows the whole disk as unpartitioned, saying "/dev/sda: unrecognized label". If I create the gpt table in a Gparted Live DVD, everything works fine, if I then try to install Ubuntu once again, it says: "The creation of swap space in partition #3 of SCSI5 (0,1
[16:28] <michael__> start update process
[16:28] <leeping> My motivation is that I only want to delete the files in the old /home directory once I verify that the new /home directory is working.
[16:28] <ActionPa1snip> pepper_chico: no, i stay on LTSs
[16:28] <pepper_chico> ah ok
[16:28] <lotuspsychje> Peanut: when did it started to go wrong?
[16:28] <michael__> i really like ubuntu. When my wifi is working, i show microsoft my back :)
[16:29] <ActionPa1snip> pepper_chico: all the new junk in the newer versions doesnt really help when all I do is chat and browse
[16:29] <Slart> matthias_: did the program work as intended?
[16:29] <usr13> phyzix5761: You got that error after what command?
[16:29] <michael__> update and upgrade finished
[16:29] <ActionPa1snip> michael__: get fully updated as a start, you may need to disable N speed to make it fly
[16:29] <ActionPa1snip> michael__: from a clean install....really?
[16:29] <phyzix5761> usr13, synclient TouchpadOff=0
[16:30] <lotuspsychje> michael__: maybe your logs to check, what error wifi got?
[16:30] <michael__> yeah i do a format of the install drive
[16:30] <usr13> phyzix5761:   http://askubuntu.com/questions/291143/touchpad-does-not-exist
[16:30] <pepper_chico> ActionPa1snip, these newer releases help me since I'm a dev and having newer library packages available is good
[16:30] <lotuspsychje> Peanut: did you try a recovery from grub?
[16:30] <ActionPa1snip> pepper_chico: absolutely :). I work in IT too and want an easy life when I get home. Its why I started using Linux all those moons ago
[16:30] <michael__> I'm a newbie with Linux how can i find the logs?
[16:30] <phyzix5761> ok usr13 at the bottom of the screen it says they have a dell fix. I just have to sign up for the website to download it
[16:30] <Peanut> lotuspsychje: what is 'recovery from grub' ?
[16:31] <lotuspsychje> michael__: /var/log/syslog.1
[16:31] <lotuspsychje> Peanut: try hold shift at boot, entering grub and failsafeX from recovery
[16:31] <michael__> syslog is loading
[16:31] <lotuspsychje> Peanut: or try a previous kernel to test..
[16:32] <pepper_chico> anyone with 13.04 that could please hold down Super a bit just to check whether the shortcut list shows up?
[16:32] <Peanut> lotuspsychje: ah ok, I never manged to get into the grub menu - I'm using IPMI, so holding down shift doesn't work, and the other tricks to get the grub menu to appear also didn't.
[16:32] <usr13> phyzix5761: Bottom of what screen?  Browser?  Firefox?  Desktop?
[16:32] <phyzix5761> usr13, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2102346
[16:33] <michael__> lotuspsychje, what should i search at the syslog?
[16:34] <lotuspsychje> Peanut: never used ipmi, what does that do
[16:34] <michael__> syslog is freezing
[16:34] <lotuspsychje> michael__: anything related to wifi or network that might be an error
[16:34] <Peanut> lotuspsychje: remote console over serial lan, and power on/off etc.
[16:35] <cinvoke> Is there a way to migrated installed packages and apps from ubuntu to another or lubuntu?
[16:35] <usr13> phyzix5761: cat /etc/issue  #What does that say?
[16:35] <lotuspsychje> cinvoke: maybe aptoncd can do stuff for you
[16:35] <michael__> lotuspsychje, the syslog is so large, its freezing and closing with an error message
[16:36] <michael__> now its open
[16:36] <phyzix5761> Ubuntu 12.04.3 LTS \n \l usr13
[16:36] <lotuspsychje> michael__: try opening it with vim from terminal maybe
[16:36] <cinvoke> lotuspsychje: nice!  will give it a try
[16:36] <cinvoke> lotuspsychje: thx
[16:36] <lotuspsychje> !info aptoncd | cinvoke
[16:36] <Prometheian> I loaded up my 13.04 Ubuntu install this morning and my GUI components aren't showing up. I get my desktop w/ files, and I can open the terminal with Ctrl+Alt+T and switch between the internal consoles, but my nice Ubuntu dock and such isn't there. Any suggestions or ideas? Google seems to have failed me.
[16:37] <lotuspsychje> Peanut: so you trying to install ubuntu on ssd from remote?
[16:37] <usr13> phyzix5761: Did you download  DellAplsDriver.tar.gz  ?
[16:37] <Loic320> Hi there
[16:37] <tmmunq> CTRL+ALT+Fx switches consoles
[16:37] <michael__> lotuspsychje, wifi enabled by radio killswitch
[16:37] <phyzix5761> yes usr13 and I ran the install file
[16:37] <Peanut> lotuspsychje: no, that I've done many times before. I'm trying to see why the machine gives kernel panics all of a sudden after 3 weeks uptime, so I want to run memtest.
[16:37] <phyzix5761> usr13, still not working but maybe I have to restart
[16:38] <michael__> i can't find a error.
[16:38] <lotuspsychje> !wifi | michael__
[16:38] <michael__> i tried to install combat drivers but with no sucess
[16:38] <usr13> phyzix5761: Yea, restart and see.
[16:39] <phyzix5761> usr13 ok brb
[16:40] <lotuspsychje> michael__: did you check your additional drivers section?
[16:40] <phyzix5761> usr13 yay it works now! Thank you for all your help
[16:40] <elisa87>  I am trying to cross compile a code with CodeSourcery Arm compiler CodeSourcery/Sourcery_CodeBench_Lite_for_ARM_GNU_Linux/bin/../arm-none-linux-gnueabi/libc/usr/include/time.h:123:5: error: unknown type name '__syscall_slong_t'  Do you know how to fix this error?
[16:41] <lotuspsychje> Peanut: not sure mate, try to re-ask your issue as specific possible here once in a while
[16:41] <usr13> phyzix5761: Okey dokey.  Gald you got it.
[16:41] <phyzix5761> take care
[16:42] <elisa87> is it a bug in glibc that is talking about time.h?
[16:43] <michael__> lotuspsychje, how can i do that?
[16:43] <lotuspsychje> michael__: check software&updates icon last tab 'additional drivers'
[16:44] <OerHeks> elisa87, you better ask in #ubuntu-arm
[16:44] <michael__> just a comment about my nvidia graphics
[16:45] <lotuspsychje> elisa87: maybe this is usefull? https://answers.launchpad.net/gcc-arm-embedded/+question/226844
[16:45] <michael__> lotuspsychje, just a comment about my nvidia graphics
[16:46] <lotuspsychje> michael__: so your syslog says wifi enabled, but you see no wifi icon?
[16:47] <zorael> !es | kameloso
[16:48] <michael__> lotuspsychje, Aug 20 22:34:18 DELLXPS NetworkManager[888]: <info> rfkill0: found WiFi radio killswitch (at /sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1c.1/0000:03:00.0/ieee80211/phy0/rfkill0) (driver iwlwifi)
[16:48] <michael__> Aug 20 22:34:18 DELLXPS NetworkManager[888]: <info> WiFi hardware radio set enabled
[16:48] <michael__> Aug 20 22:34:18 DELLXPS NetworkManager[888]: <info> WiFi enabled by radio killswitch; enabled by state file
[16:48] <michael__> Aug 20 22:34:18 DELLXPS NetworkManager[888]: <info> WWAN enabled by radio killswitch; enabled by state file
[16:48] <michael__> Aug 20 22:34:18 DELLXPS NetworkManager[888]: <info> WiMAX enabled by radio killswitch; enabled by state file
[16:48] <FloodBot1> michael__: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:48] <michael__> Aug 20 22:34:18 DELLXPS NetworkManager[888]: <info> Networking is enabled by state file
[16:49] <michael__> sorry don't want flood
[16:49] <lotuspsychje> michael__: use paste ubuntu
[16:50] <lotuspsychje> michael__: you see your wifi icon right above?
[16:50] <usr13> !info pastebinit | michael__
[16:50] <michael__> its a arrow up arrow down symbol
[16:51] <lotuspsychje> michael__: did you try remove the ethernet cable to see what happens?
[16:52] <michael__> when i remove the ethernet cable its just a empty wifi symbol
[16:52] <elisa87> lotuspsychje: could you please take a look at this ? http://stackoverflow.com/questions/18363288/error-in-cross-compiling-a-c-code-unknown-type-name-syscall-slong-t
[16:52] <GunArm> i can't unmount /dev/md0 even though I stopped portmap and nfs-kernel-server which was sharing the file system. http://pastebin.com/wWUfcB6i any ideas?
[16:52] <lotuspsychje> michael__: if you have wifi symbol, should work..are you sure you have wifi connection in your surounding?
[16:53] <michael__> i sit right next to my wifi router. wifi is working fine
[16:53] <michael__> router
[16:53] <daftykins> hah, i'd use a cable :D
[16:53] <usr13> !paste | michael__
[16:54] <usr13> michael__: What does iwconfig say?
[16:54] <michael__> the wireless symbol is empty
[16:54] <usr13> michael__: iwconfig | pastebinit  #Send us the resulting URL
[16:54] <ellipsis_> Hello, I noticed in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/ there are lots of files starting with different numbers. For example 10periodic. What are these for and do the numbers imply the order they are automatically run in or something? If I add a new file into there will it be run automatically? Just curious. Thanks.
[16:55] <usr13> ellipsis_: Yes
[16:55] <michael__> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6010965/
[16:56] <usr13> michael__: Check your network-manager's settings and see if it is set to only use Wired.
[16:57] <michael__> wifi is on and wired is on
[16:57] <james_> hi
[16:57] <ellipsis_> usr13, Thanks.
[16:57] <michael__> wifi window is grey
[16:57] <usr13> michael__: sudo iwconfig scan |pastebinit
[16:57] <michael__> no such device
[16:58] <usr13> michael__: sudo iwconfig wlan0 scan |pastebinit
[16:58] <michael__> unknown command scan
[16:58] <root____> hello all
[17:00] <usr13> michael__: sudo iwlist wlan0 scan |pastebinit   #Sorry, wrong command
[17:00] <michael__>  Interface doesn't support scanning : Network is down
[17:00] <michael__> strange
[17:00] <cinvoke> whats the point of encrypting the home folder if the hd is encrypted and requires a pw before it will even mount?
[17:01] <usr13> michael__: Ok, there is something wrong with network-manager  Not sure what but, try this:
[17:01] <lotuspsychje> !encrypt | cinvoke
[17:01] <usr13> michael__: dpkg-reconfigre network-manager
[17:01] <zefry> test
[17:01] <usr13> michael__: sudo dpkg-reconfigre network-manager
[17:02] <cinvoke> lotuspsychje: do you use it?
[17:02] <Guest77169> hi , how do i add backtrack repository to xubuntu 13.04
[17:02] <lotuspsychje> cinvoke: no not myself
[17:02] <michael__> Trigger für libc-bin werden verarbeitet ...ldconfig deferred processing now taking place
[17:03] <ikonia> Guest77169: you don't
[17:03] <ikonia> Guest77169: plus backtrack is dead
[17:03] <cinvoke> lotuspsychje: this link explains how to set it up, but im having trouble understanding why i would need both....seems redundant, right?
[17:03] <michael__> network is still down
[17:03] <lotuspsychje> cinvoke: you installed ubuntu on a hd that has encryption?
[17:03] <usr13> michael__: Try the Network Manager
[17:04] <Guest77169> ikonia:how is backtrack dead
[17:04] <ikonia> Guest77169: in that it's dead
[17:04] <ikonia> Guest77169: read their webpage
[17:04] <michael__> usr13, nothing new
[17:04] <tmmunq> oh, because they changed the name to kali? :/
[17:05] <michael__> wireless window still grey
[17:05] <usr13> michael__: sudo dpkg-reconfigure nm-applet
[17:05] <cinvoke> lotuspsychje: no.  it asks if you want to encrypt the filesystem.  i chose yes.  now it requires a pw to mount during boot.  plus its asking if i want to encrypt the home folder.  what im wondering is how that would be useful if ive already encrypted the filesystem
[17:05] <Jahm> Can I install xfce alongside with my 12.04 Ubuntu?
[17:05] <michael__> nm-applet not installed
[17:06] <usr13> Jahm: yes
[17:06] <Jahm> usr13: is this the right way? http://linuxg.net/how-to-install-xfce-4-10-on-ubuntu-13-04-12-10-12-04-and-linux-mint-15-14-13/
[17:06] <usr13> michael__: Are you using Wicd?  Or Network Manager?
[17:06] <michael__> network manager
[17:06] <cinvoke> Jahm: i used both gdm and xfce4 on xubuntu, so i imagine you can
[17:06] <usr13> Jahm: Are you running Linux Mint?
[17:06] <Jahm> No
[17:06] <Jahm> Ubuntu 12.04
[17:07] <usr13> Jahm: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[17:07] <michael__> whats wicd?
[17:07] <Jahm> My laptop is an old Intel Atom, and it feels like Unity is heavy for my laptop
[17:07] <usr13> michael__: sudo apt-get install nm-applet
[17:07] <Jahm> So as I was doing a research, xfce is more lightweight compared to it
[17:07] <HackerII> Jahm  it will be for that atom
[17:08] <michael__> can't find package
[17:08] <Jahm> usr13: Thanks
[17:08] <Jahm> Gonna try it
[17:08] <HackerII> xfce will be excekkent for it tho
[17:08] <HackerII> excellent
[17:08] <Jahm> Ahh
[17:08] <HackerII> also
[17:08] <usr13> Jahm: Yea, you'll prolly like it if you are strictly into functionallity.  (I use xfce too.)
[17:08] <HackerII> have 2g of ram, itl be nice
[17:09] <Jahm> Yeah was planning to upgrade it to 2GB of  RAM
[17:09] <Jahm> I currently have 1GB though
[17:09] <HackerII> dont wait
[17:09] <Jahm> DDR2 is hard to find these days
[17:09] <HackerII> ya
[17:09] <Jahm> Thanks to both of you
[17:09] <HackerII> Jahm  is it intel graphics too ?
[17:09] <usr13> Jahm: 1G RAM is a little on the fringe for Unity.
[17:09] <Jahm> Yes
[17:09] <HackerII> good
[17:09] <Jahm> usr13: true
[17:10] <michael__> usr13, can't find the package
[17:10] <HackerII> Jahm  try amazon
[17:10] <usr13> michael__: sudo apt-get install wicd
[17:10] <Jahm> HackerII: No Amazon for third world countries :\
[17:10] <HackerII> D`oh!
[17:10] <HackerII> try pc 5300
[17:10] <michael__>  Starting Network connection manager wicd                              [fail]
[17:11] <michael__> installed
[17:11] <usr13> michael__: Reboot
[17:11] <michael__> ok
[17:11] <Jahm> By the way
[17:11] <Jahm> Why am I having problems with add-apt-repository ?
[17:11] <lotuspsychje> cinvoke: not sure whats the difference but i think encrypting home leaves the user the choice
[17:12] <lotuspsychje> someone know if a user can choose not to encrypt his /home on an encrypted system?
[17:13] <Guest77169> ikonia:so what do i do
[17:13] <ikonia> Guest77169: in what respect, what do you do ?
[17:13] <Guest77169> ikonia:i just checked site is still alive
[17:14] <ntzrmtthihu777> heyo, question. I'd like to configure a keyboard shortcut that 1. Opens a gnome-terminal with a certain profile if it is not open, 2. Minimizes said term if open and 3. maximizes said term if minimized, with one key.
[17:14] <Guest77169> ikonia:hw do i install de backtrack apps in xubuntu
[17:14] <ntzrmtthihu777> Guest77169: compile from source.
[17:14] <ikonia> Guest77169: backtack is dead
[17:14] <ikonia> ntzrmtthihu777: no not at all
[17:15] <ikonia> ntzrmtthihu777: you shouldn't mix repos - especially from a dead project
[17:15] <cinvoke> lotuspsychje: thx. ill try both.  hopefully this doesnt end in flames
[17:15] <ntzrmtthihu777> ikonia: its dead? and I did not say mix repos, I said compile from source.
[17:15] <Guest77169> ikonia:i am not sure backtrack is dead
[17:15] <ikonia> Guest77169: my tip - look at kali-linux
[17:15] <ikonia> ntzrmtthihu777: yes, and that is a bad idea
[17:15] <ikonia> Guest77169: I'm %101 postitive
[17:16] <HackerII> backtrack was cool
[17:16] <ntzrmtthihu777> don't see how, considering alot of good apps are done so. Higan from the repos is so junkie that compiling from source is the only option.
[17:16] <ntzrmtthihu777> I still have a bt5r3 iso somewehre...
[17:16] <ikonia> ntzrmtthihu777: I'm sorry, no, the whole point of the repos is to stop that sort of behaviour, epecially for inexperienced used
[17:18] <Guest77169> ikonia:ok i see kali-linux will download and try
[17:18] <DeadManINDIA> Hello friends
[17:18] <ntzrmtthihu777> ikonia: if he's looking to fiddle with bt he better dang well be experienced. And just saying no to compiling from  source is very autocratic behavior.
[17:19] <arun> hi guys how to make my computer a ftp server throughout the internet?
[17:19] <ikonia> arun: install an ftp server
[17:19] <lotuspsychje> !ftp | arun
[17:19] <ABDULLAH> hey @
[17:19] <ABDULLAH> I need help
[17:19] <lotuspsychje> !ask | ABDULLAH
[17:20] <DeadManINDIA> i face problm to connect with the net wit dual booting in backtack
[17:20] <lotuspsychje> DeadManINDIA: BT is not supported here
[17:20] <ikonia> DeadManINDIA: back track is dead, we do not support backtrack here
[17:20] <ntzrmtthihu777> DeadManINDIA: not a backtrack support thread.
[17:20] <Jahm> as
[17:20] <ntzrmtthihu777> ikonia: on another note, when did it die? and what do you mean exactly dead? as in no more releases?
[17:21] <arun> ikonia: will it automatically broadcast my Hard disk to the internet?
[17:21] <DeadManINDIA> kk thanks
[17:21] <ikonia> ntzrmtthihu777: dead, as in over, ended, check the dcs on kali-linux
[17:21] <ikonia> arun: no, you need to configure it
[17:22] <arun> ikonia: how to please help me man, I will get sick if you ask me to google it fot
[17:22] <ABDULLAH> I was using windows 8 but I installed Ubuntu 13.04 and the entire hard disk get formatted.
[17:22] <Vlyn> Hello there! I'm searching for an Ubuntu theme. When I watched the movie Elysium I fell in love with this interface: http://i.imgur.com/BGtTmzv.jpg (Of course it was better in the cinema). So I'm searching something similar as a Theme. Good tags would be glass (or glass like) but I haven't found anything suitable :-/ anyone got an idea?
[17:22] <ikonia> arun: https://help.ubuntu.com https://wiki.ubuntu.com - lots of docs on here including how to setup an ftp server
[17:22] <ABDULLAH> Can i recover my hard disk?
[17:22] <ikonia> arun: nope
[17:23] <HackerII> lol
[17:23] <ABDULLAH> Pls?
[17:23] <ikonia> oops
[17:23] <lotuspsychje> !info testdisk | ABDULLAH
[17:23] <ikonia> ABDULLAH: no, you can't
[17:23] <arun> ikonia: man do i need to buy some thing?>
[17:23] <DeadManINDIA> any one tell me where is the network configrations files in ubuntu
[17:23] <ikonia> arun: no, I need to learn how to type, as I hit the wrong nickname
[17:24] <ikonia> DeadManINDIA: are you using ubuntu desktop ?
[17:24] <ntzrmtthihu777> ikonia: wow, interesting to know.
[17:24] <haxxpop> when i try to browse http://haxxpop.in.th it redirect to http://localhost, i don't know why, help me please
[17:24] <DeadManINDIA> ya Backtrack is made by modifiy the ubuntu i think if i am not erong
[17:25] <ikonia> DeadManINDIA: are you using backtrack or ubuntu
[17:25] <DeadManINDIA> backtrack
[17:25] <ikonia> DeadManINDIA: right - so stop telling people it's ubuntu,
[17:25] <ikonia> DeadManINDIA: back track is dead - it's not supported, so PLEASE stop asking
[17:25] <DeadManINDIA> kk thanks for inform me
[17:26] <ikonia> no problem.
[17:26] <Jahm> Why did they kill it?
[17:26] <ikonia> ask them
[17:26] <DeadManINDIA> so plz tell me where i put our question relate it
[17:26] <ikonia> DeadManINDIA: not here, backtrack is dead, it's not supported so I don't know
[17:26] <Jahm> #backtrack ?
[17:27] <lotuspsychje> !alis | DeadManINDIA
[17:27] <somewad> http://gyazo.com/716a0a8103acf255dc0d194cec94f30f
[17:27] <somewad> is that normal ?
[17:27] <ntzrmtthihu777> DeadManINDIA: but its still not supported here, even if it is based on ubuntu.
[17:27] <michael__> usr13,  reboot done. ethernet cable eject nothing happens no wifi
[17:27] <ABDULLAH> @ubutto can I recover my lost files?
[17:28] <somewad> http://gyazo.com/716a0a8103acf255dc0d194cec94f30f <---- is that normal ?
[17:28] <Slart> !undelete | ABDULLAH
[17:28] <lotuspsychje> ABDULLAH: i just triggered you a package for recovery lost data
[17:28] <ikonia> ABDULLAH: no
[17:31] <Jahm> Which irc client are you using?
[17:31] <lotuspsychje> !poll | Jahm
[17:31] <arun> ikonia: man can't find
[17:32] <arun> ikonia: need some help
[17:32] <ikonia> arun: with what
[17:32] <ntzrmtthihu777> arun: testdisc and photorec are good for recovery
[17:33] <michael__> lotuspsychje,  have you another idea about my wifi i installed wicd and restart, but nothing happens
[17:33] <arun> ikonia: with setting up my laptop's HD to the internet ftp
[17:33] <ferr> could anyone help me with hdd management
[17:34] <lotuspsychje> michael__: maybe google some driver issues for your wifi chipset or firmware updates
[17:35] <lotuspsychje> ferr: what are you trying to do exactly?
[17:36] <michael__> lotuspsychje, i already googled. There are intel driver for the the chipset, but i don't get it installed. And there was a solution with a iwlagn command, but command didn't work there is no iwlagn at my pc
[17:36] <lotuspsychje> arun: setup an ftp server for ubuntu
[17:36] <lotus> Hey, Using Lubuntu and just ran a normal update.  Gimp won't start.  Says something about unable to load the fglrx and that I should load it manually as root?  Any idea how to load fglrx manually or fix gimp?
[17:36] <arun> lotuspsychje: how to man?
[17:36] <ironhalik> Hmm, I've got a peculiar problem. On 13.04, all peripherals stopped working after reboot. Only one display lights up, no mouse, keyboard, network. Any ideas what could cause it?
[17:37] <lotuspsychje> arun: first find an ftp package of your choice in software centre
[17:37] <lotuspsychje> arun: then you need the ftp server configged, folder, ip, logins and passwords
[17:37] <arun> lotuspsychje: yes I have got filezilla server and client
[17:38] <arun> lotuspsychje: do i need to buy a public ip ?
[17:38] <lotuspsychje> arun: no you need your own ip, if you run the ftp server on your own box
[17:39] <arun> lotuspsychje:then which ip address should I connet to?
[17:39] <lotuspsychje> arun after you set up your ftp server, test yourself with gftp own ip login/pass
[17:40] <arun> man
[17:40] <usr13> michael__: lspci |grep ireless |pastebinit
[17:40] <arun> lotuspsychje: then which ip address should I connet to?
[17:40] <usr13> michael__: Send URL
[17:40] <lotus> Hey, if anyone comes in here asking about gimp not starting after a normal Lubuntu update, let them know to apt-get purge fglrx-updates and then apt-get install fglrx-updates fglrx-amdcccle-updates
[17:40] <lotus> that worked nicely
[17:41] <digitalirony> sup
[17:41] <daftykins> outdated AMD causes GIMP to fail? 0o
[17:41] <digitalirony> I am having some NFS/nsswitch/idmapd issues
[17:41] <digitalirony> would this be a good place for help on this
[17:41] <digitalirony> or another place
[17:41] <daftykins> #networking probably
[17:41] <daftykins> might be ##
[17:41] <HackerII> daftykins  which one is it
[17:41] <dfarmer> Hi all, rebooted my computer last night and now can't login with my user account. Created a new user and I am able to login. I tried moving the ~/.config/ of the broken user and login but that didn't work. Any other ideas how I can fix my original user account (Ubuntu 12.04)
[17:41] <daftykins> HackerII: which one is what?
[17:42] <usr13> michael__: Still there?
[17:42] <HackerII> amd
[17:42] <michael__> usr13,  nothing happens with this command
[17:42] <daftykins> HackerII: i was talking in relation to lotus' statements
[17:42] <ABDULLAH> what's the command to install .tar.gz package?
[17:42] <usr13> michael__: lspci |pastebinit
[17:42] <HackerII> o ok
[17:42] <lotuspsychje> !tar | ABDULLAH
[17:43] <ntzrmtthihu777> ABDULLAH: untar it, configure it, and then make + make install. there should usually be a README or INSTALL text with details.
[17:44] <michael__> usr13,  i post it in private, my ff wont start
[17:44] <lotuspsychje> michael__: did you clean install ubuntu or upgrade?
[17:47] <enen92> hey folks, can any1 point me at a way of changing this awfull terminal color schemes? http://s23.postimg.org/cmvqg80ff/Captura_de_ecra_de_2013_08_21_18_26_27.png
[17:48] <enen92> is it possible to import configurations from other ubuntu based distros?
[17:48] <lotuspsychje> enen92: change your color scheme in profile
[17:48] <Jahm> usr13: are you still there?
[17:48] <Jahm> Which one should I select, Xfce Session or Xubuntu Session?
[17:49] <enen92> lotuspsychje: what is the path to the configuration file of the terminal?
[17:50] <lotuspsychje> !terminal | enen92
[17:51] <enen92> thanks lotus sorry for the noob question
[17:51] <enen92> haven't realised it was so easy
[17:52] <enen92> take care
[17:53] <ABDULLAH> is .deb a installer package?
[17:53] <lotuspsychje> !deb | ABDULLAH
[17:54] <xentity1x> Hi I setup an http server on my laptop thats behind a netgear wireless router. Can someone tell me how to access it remotely?
[17:54] <lotuspsychje> xentity1x: maybe ## networking channel might help you out
[17:54] <xentity1x> thanks
[17:54] <daftykins> xentity1x: that's more a good question for ##networking - although look up port forwarding port 80
[17:55] <ABDULLAH> how can I update my ubuntu 13.04 it's different from ubuntu 12.04.
[17:55] <lotuspsychje> !cookie | daftykins
[17:55] <daftykins> aww thanks lotus
[17:55] <lotuspsychje> :p
[17:55] <daftykins> you did get there before me, alas
[17:55] <lotuspsychje> !upgrade | ABDULLAH
[17:55] <daftykins> but you know how it is, you have something typed out and you'd feel sad if you just backspaced it :(
[17:56] <lotuspsychje> daftykins: were al here for same support reason :p
[17:56] <lotuspsychje> no sweat
[17:56] <ABDULLAH> no man just updates provided daily.
[17:56] <daftykins> lotuspsychje: yeah just making convo ;)
[17:57] <ABDULLAH> what's the best pdf viewer for Ubuntu?
[17:57] <usr13> ABDULLAH: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[17:57] <simen> How can I enable VNC from the commandline(ssh) on a ubuntu box?
[17:57] <eph3meral> so I've been having lots of borderline random difficult to reproduce but consistent (several times per day) crashes under XFCE on Ubuntu 13.04 64bit, I have googled for a while now but haven't found anything to solve this, has anyone else been experiencing this?
[17:58] <lotuspsychje> !info mupdf | ABDULLAH
[17:58] <sudobash> Just wanted to let yall know, been an Ubuntu user since 2006, and I think yall have fucked it beyond recognition, I hope yall are happy about that and if you don't listen to your users, instead of being the favorite distro of everyone it is going to instead be the most hated distro and most dissappointed when it had the most potential... Yalls screwed the pooch hard on this one and I don't see yall come out of it ever, Unity is c
[17:58] <sudobash> ompelte crap and all the changes making it hard to get to software sources and install 3rd part utilites is insane in itself. In trying to make it more usable, you've failed miserablly and made it about 10 x harder to use than ever before and the commits to debian have fucked shit up. I hope to see Canonical be flushed down the toilet soon for what it's done to an amazing operating system, shame on you Mark Shuttleworth for destr
[17:58] <FloodBot1> sudobash: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:58] <usr13> !vnc  | simen
[17:58] <ABDULLAH> keyboard shortcut to open terminal??
[18:00] <usr13> sudobash: What version are you using?
[18:00] <eph3meral> I get a crash report, but when I go to view the details it just says xfce4-session was the culprit, but instead of bringing up details, the little pinwheel spinner just sits there forever
[18:01] <ABDULLAH> what's the keyboard shortcut to open ubuntu terminal??Plsl
[18:02] <sudobash> I dont even want to talk about it, it's sad really, I'm a NIX admin and I hate Ubuntu Now, good job ppl...
[18:02] <genii> ABDULLAH: Usually ctrl-alt-t
[18:02] <ABDULLAH> thanks genii.
[18:03] <usr13> sudobash: If you have a support question, you're welcome to ask it, but opinions are wasted on us as this is a support channel, we are interested in support, not opinions or discussions about how much someone dislikesany particular distro.
[18:03] <k1l> sudobash: this channel is for technical ubuntu support and not for ranting. please stick to the guidelines
[18:03] <usr13> sudobash: You can also join #ubuntu-offtopic
[18:03] <ironhalik> regarding support... :>
[18:04] <sudobash> yeah that's what I thought, nazi attitude, never gonna change and it's always been like this
[18:04] <ironhalik> Hmm, I've got a peculiar problem. On 13.04, all peripherals stopped working after reboot. Only one display lights up, no mouse, keyboard, network. Any ideas what could cause it?
[18:04] <thepeopleschamp> can someone link me to a page where i can see all off Apple Inc shareholders?
[18:04] <bean> thepeopleschamp: ... this is an ubuntu support channel.
[18:04] <daftykins> thepeopleschamp: that's nothing to do with Ubuntu
[18:05] <thepeopleschamp> i know, but google is just not givin me the correct answers
[18:05] <k1l> !ot | thepeopleschamp
[18:06] <daum> hey guys - i just isntalled php5 on my ubuntu and installed the php5-mysql however when i enabled the extension i get the following:  /usr/lib/php5/20100525/pdo_mysql.so: undefined symbol: pdo_parse_params it doesn't appear maybe pdo is enabled? but php --info shows that it is?
[18:06] <ellipsis_> I'm trying to use "apt-get --force-yes install apache2..." but I still get asked "Do you want to continue...". I can't work out how I'm using the command wrong. Could someone please help me?
[18:06] <sudobash> alright well just so you know, I went to Linux when I was 12 and just went back to Windows as my main OS because of how much yall have fucked Ubuntu/Debian over
[18:06] <ironhalik> ellipsis_: you want apt to assume yes?
[18:07] <usr13> ellipsis_: sudo apt-get install apache2
[18:07] <ironhalik> ellipsis_: the command is apt-get install -y apache2
[18:07] <mmazing_work> i'm trying to figure out a way to cause icons on the unity launcher to "jiggle" repeatedly until clicked
[18:07] <ironhalik> ellipsis_: or --yes or --assume-yes
[18:08] <ellipsis_> ironhalik, Yes. I thought that's what force-yes did. Should I use --yes with it?
[18:08] <bean> daum: php has pdo built in as of 5.3 i think
[18:08] <bean> so you dont need the extenstion
[18:08] <ironhalik> ellipsis_: apt-get install apache2 --assume-yes
[18:08] <mmazing_work> or ... to display a message in the top right of the screen like battery notifications that won't go away until clicked
[18:08] <ironhalik> it won't ask for confirmation
[18:08] <ironhalik> ellipsis_: short form is '-y' flag
[18:09] <cantinstallgrub> Hello. I don't know how much if this has to do with the "K" part and how much of it has to do with the "ubuntu" part, but I'm trying to install Kubuntu on a laptop with UEFI (Asus UX31A, aka Zenbook Prime) and the installer is unable to install grub-efi at the end of the installation for some reason I can't explain. Is this a known problem? What should I do?
[18:10] <ellipsis_> ironhalik, Thank you.
[18:10] <ironhalik> ellipsis_: np
[18:11] <mmazing_work> what's the apt command to download the source for a package?
[18:12] <jpds> mmazing_work: apt-get source <package>
[18:12] <mmazing_work> jpds: thanks
[18:12] <Tom_> Hello.
[18:13] <Tom_> Any one on I need some help?
[18:13] <k1l> !details | Tom_
[18:14] <Tom_> Okay well I am running a Asus notebook on windows 8 and I tried to instal raring ringtail/13.04 and it wasnt working on wubi so I used internet tutorials to launch the disk and hit install along side after turning off secure boot and now my hardrive is cut in half and is in two sectors and every time I install ubuntu it wont recongnize it.
[18:15] <Tom_> I also no longer have a UEFI boot option in my bios.
[18:15] <Tom_> and it only launches windows, the grub wont start either.
[18:16] <Tom_> Is there specifics I am supposed to do when I do somthing else with install?
[18:17] <Tom_> Oh and I am reseting my computer for the second time now using the windows 8 option to try and get rid of the seperate patrition to try and get it back to normal.
[18:17] <Tom_> And thats about it.
[18:17] <pepper_chico> http://askubuntu.com/questions/335489/is-there-a-way-to-define-a-hotkey-to-unhide-the-launcher
[18:19] <Tom_> So any one have ideas on how to either return it to factory settings without the new patrition or how to get ubuntu's grub to start up on load?
[18:22] <aranya> Tom : Not sure how to answer your question, but maybe give you two hints ...
[18:22] <aranya> Tom : 1 - use gparted and restore partitions and use windows repair disk if needed for your boot
[18:23] <jahm_> How do I connect a network drive in Ubuntu?
[18:24] <aranya> Tom : 2 - I installed xubuntu along side windows on an acer aspire 1 and best is to let default install for partitionning else if you do yourself it messes up with grub boot, it's best to let it do all by itself
[18:24] <Tom_> I tried the windows recovery disks and they just replaced the files can you give me a link to making or getting a repair disk and I should've told you that it said that the operation could not be undone when I hit the button
[18:24] <mmazing_work> I'm trying to find where in the unity source it "jiggles" the icons for the "demands-attention" version of icons on the unity launcher. Anyone have any experience with the unity source?
[18:25] <Tom_> Okay, my problem though is I let it do it itself and it didnt work so I ended up with a 500gb unaccessable raw Virtual harddrive that I couldnt access and my UEFI boot option dissapeared from bios.
[18:25] <Tom_> I guess I can try repair maybe it will work.
[18:25] <aranya> Tom : Can you boot in windows or not ?
[18:26] <Tom_> I can.
[18:26] <Tom_> Its all i can boot its my only boot option.
[18:26] <aranya> ok so you just need to reset partiions then
[18:26] <Tom_> Okay.
[18:26] <aranya> and restart with install ubuntu if you want to have it
[18:26] <mmazing_work> Tom_: does grub come up at all or just windows?
[18:26] <aranya> the best way is :
[18:26] <Tom_> Just Windows mmazingwork
[18:27] <mmazing_work> Tom_: have you tried this ? - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[18:27] <Tom_> So how do I reset my partritions in windows 8 do you know because if I can then I will try to install ubuntu.
[18:28] <aranya> 1- make empty space along side windows, 2- boot install ubuntu disk, then let him say "install ubuntu alongside windows, then choose default install (nothing fancy), then let him install files
[18:28] <aranya> when you reboot, you should have a list with ubuntu, ... then last windows
[18:28] <Tom_> Okay just like my Acer Inspiron then.
[18:28] <mmazing_work> Tom_: it sounds to my like grub is just screwed up, i would try the boot-repair option before messing with partitions, less likely to lose data
[18:28] <aranya> gparted is best to reset your partitions on disk
[18:29] <aranya> but be carefull not to mess up the windows one else, nothing left
[18:29] <Tom_> Well I dont have any data on my laptop any more I just want to get it back to default.
[18:29] <mmazing_work> ah
[18:29] <Tom_> Its just the OS
[18:29] <mmazing_work> well, boot-repair will probably be the fastest method as well :)
[18:30] <aranya> yes agree ;)
[18:30] <Tom_> Okay well once it is done reseting I will install ubuntu into the 500gb of unallocated space and try boot repair before restarting the computer.
[18:31] <Tom_> Thanks for the help :)
[18:31] <mmazing_work> oh, i was under the impression that you still had a copy of linux somewhere out there on your drive
[18:31] <mmazing_work> so it's just windows
[18:32] <nachoLog> I have 13.04 desktop on a thinkpad x220 and when i plug in my external acer hard drive it doesnt show up in the launcher. is there a way i can manually locate it because i see the blue light going on the exhdd?
[18:32] <Tom_> Yes its just windows and a bunch of unallocated memory.
[18:32] <mmazing_work> ah, ok, well if you reinstall ubuntu and you don't get grub, try the boot-repair thingy
[18:32] <Tom_> okay.
[18:33] <Tom_> Is there any specific place I should put the boot loaders when doing the somthing else install and anyspecific partritions I should make?
[18:34] <aranya> nope, let him do by itself, default, easier for no problem install ...
[18:35] <Tom_> But if I do default it will require taking more space from windows or is there a option to make a VHD and then do default install on there?
[18:35] <Tom_> because I recap it has 500 gigs of unallocated that is the real problem.
[18:35] <Jahm> What vnc client do you use?
[18:35] <Tom_> vnc?
[18:36] <aranya> if you do default, it will use the 500, else have to resize your partitions ...
[18:36] <Tom_> Oh cool.
[18:36] <Tom_> Okay well once its done I will try to install.
[18:36] <BluesKaj> tom , if you have a windows install grub will install itself on the mbr by default
[18:36] <Tom_> I need ubuntu to work on the student ran servers at school.
[18:38] <neytiri> i need some help, the gui on my desktop wont start, it was running fine last night, i installed updates before i went to bed but now it wont load the gui
[18:38] <pepper_chico> no one can help me out on that hotkey question I think, posted it on several channels, and still no response from any or askubuntu =/
[18:39] <wiak> how can i disable the press s to boot if fstab cannot mount?
[18:39] <wiak> kinda stupid when running a server..
[18:39] <pepper_chico> anyone have a tip about this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/335489/is-there-a-way-to-define-a-hotkey-to-unhide-the-launcher ?
[18:40] <Tom_> Thanks for the help I will try out what you guys said and be back if it dont work.
[18:40] <neytiri> i need some help, the gui on my desktop wont start, it was running fine last night, i installed updates before i went to bed but now it wont load the gui
[18:43] <neytiri> i need some help, the gui on my desktop wont start, it was running fine last night, i installed updates before i went to bed but now it wont load the gui
[18:43] <graybeard> old fart
[18:45] <michael_2> usr13, i'm back
[18:45] <michael_2> i had to reinstall linux
[18:45] <michael_2> there was no network at all anymore :D
[18:46] <Nekrid> hi
[18:46] <LordDragon> hey all. does anyone in here run 13.04 using vmware player on windows?
[18:47] <Nekrid> help me here plz, i'm editing .php files with geany that are present in the /var/www directory
[18:47] <Nekrid> but it can't save
[18:47] <Nekrid> it has no permissions to save
[18:47] <Nekrid> the owner of /var/www is root
[18:48] <neytiri> i need some help, the gui on my desktop wont start, it was running fine last night, i installed updates before i went to bed but now it wont load the gui
[18:48] <Nekrid> how do i give permissions to geany to write to /var/www
[18:48] <ntzrmtthihu777> heyo, technical issues. I just switched from xubuntu-desktop to ubuntu-desktop, and after rebooting I get a 'low graphics mode' warning and cannot login with lightdm; using tty1 right now.
[18:48] <k1l> neytiri: make sure the kernel headers are installed for your kernel
[18:49] <neytiri> how would i check?
[18:49] <k1l> neytiri: for other issues see the logs like .xsession-errors and dmesg and syslog
[18:51] <michael_2> usr13, youre still here?
[18:51] <kermit> how can i record my webcam with audio?  with mencoder the a/v is very out of sync
[18:51] <auronandace> kermit: light travels faster than sound
[18:53] <MysteryGuy> How is everyone doing?
[18:53] <ntzrmtthihu777> auronandace: true that. man I really don't want to have to reinstall XD
[18:54] <neytiri> k1l, i dont see any thign that woudl explain why it wont load
[18:54] <LordDragon> no one runs ubuntu in a vm?
[18:54] <neytiri> i use to LordDragon
[18:55] <LordDragon> neytiri: which vm software did you use?
[18:55] <neytiri> esxi
[18:55] <LordDragon> oh ok
[18:55] <21WABBQ7W> I run 13.04 in both workstation on Ubuntu and vSphere/ESX
[18:55] <LordDragon> i am just using the vmware player
[18:56] <LordDragon> on windows
[18:56] <LordDragon> the problem is, when i install ubuntu 13.04, and drag windows around, they a jittering. not smooth dragging. vmware tools is installed. my host system is pretty decent
[18:58] <eric-young> LordDragon: I'd think that more of a VMware (or host platform) issue
[18:58] <LordDragon> i have zero stuttering on my host platform
[18:59] <neytiri> if your host box doenst support virtualation it will or run smoothly
[18:59] <Ipil> hi lorddragon
[19:00] <Mizera> hi there... I use cron to automate some tasks, but I'd like to know how I could exec a task like "when the computer is idle". Is there a easy way to do that (without need of a shell script or something)?
[19:00] <LordDragon> neytiri: it has vt-x. but not vt-d
[19:00] <eric-young> you have all the optimized graphics drivers, virtualization enabled, etc...?  Can you run a a windows Vm without stuttering?
[19:01] <Mizera> wtf? this Ipil is spamming a message "against niggers"... no operators here?
[19:01] <LordDragon> optimized? well i havethe latest graphics driver in the windows host. and i have vmware tools installed. not sure how optimizied i can make it?
[19:01] <ntzrmtthihu777> Mizera: I just got the same one, talking to the ops now
[19:01] <LordDragon> Mizera: same here
[19:01] <Ipil> mizera you are a freaking liar
[19:01] <Ipil> you should have ham stuffed into your cunt
[19:01] <Mizera> yah, sure
[19:02] <eric-young> me too
[19:02] <Ipil> until you spray your femme juices into my mustache
[19:02] <eric-young> LordDragon... try a windows vm to see if the problems exists there too?
[19:02] <LordDragon> eric-young: ok i guess i can try that
[19:02] <rixon> hi
[19:02] <rixon> i have installed the phyton 3.3.2
[19:03] <rixon> but i cant start it
[19:03] <eric-young> and, I assume you have the vmware cmware-tools installed and not the open-vm-tools?
[19:03] <rixon> if i simply double click on it or right click->open
[19:03] <rixon> nothing happens
[19:04] <auronandace> rixon: python is a programming language, you don't open it
[19:04] <rixon> somebody can help for me pls
[19:04] <Kartagis> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution#Adding_undetected_resolutions <--- following this, how can I find out what my options for output are?
[19:05] <rixon> i know but somehow i need to "open" it to be able to write in it:s
[19:05] <Kartagis> rixon: in a terminal, type python nameofscript.py
[19:05] <rixon> srry for bad english im a little tired
[19:05] <Kartagis> rixon: oh, open it with gedit
[19:05] <rixon> okay,thx
[19:06] <Prock81> how could i boot a live win7PE iso into the ram off the harddrive from the /boot/grub/custom.cfg menu?
[19:09] <ntzrmtthihu777> yeah, this error is killing me XD. shoulda stuck with xubuntu-desktop :/
[19:10] <ChogyDan> im having issues with my webcam and gstreamer.  My audio isn't working
[19:13] <paul_beginner> hi all
[19:13] <ChogyDan> ntzrmtthihu777: what's the error?
[19:13] <digwiz> If I want to use an older laptop with ubuntu/lubuntu installed on it to share its wireless connection with a desktop PC that wants to run GFWL (which requires UPnP and/or specific ports forwarded for certain games), do I need to enable UPnP/certain ports on the ubuntu/lubuntu install, or just the modem?
[19:14] <ChogyDan> is the desktop connected to the laptop? or the router?
[19:14] <ntzrmtthihu777> ChogyDan: had xubuntu 13.04, installed ubuntu-desktop to get some multitouch action (dell latitude xt2), now after plymouth I get a 'low graphics mode' warning and I just get a blinking cursor, not even a tty. I'm logged in via tty2 right now using irssi
[19:15] <digwiz> ChogyDan: The laptop picks up the wireless connection and shares it via ethernet to the desktop
[19:15] <ntzrmtthihu777> running startx in tty1 got me a desktop and mouse cursor in ctrl+alt+f7, but no panels or things like that.
[19:15] <digwiz> ChogyDan: What I'm trying to do is run Dark Souls through GFWL but the multitude of fixes on the web don't work, and I've gone as far as to reset the modem to factory settings to be sure, so I'm starting to think it's the laptop that first grabs the connection
[19:16] <paul_beginner> I started the gedit with sudo. is this now standard for this program?
[19:16] <k1l> ntzrmtthihu777: dont use startx. start the lightdm
[19:16] <k1l> paul_beginner: no. dont run GUI programms with sudo!
[19:16] <bazhang> paul_beginner, gksudo for graphical apps
[19:17] <saki`> so like. apt-get upgrade isn't going to break things on a server will it?
[19:17] <ntzrmtthihu777> k1l: running sudo start lightdm gets me the lightdm
[19:18] <ntzrmtthihu777> k1l: *low graphics mode error again
[19:18] <k1l> ntzrmtthihu777: yes, that is the right way. startx can cause problems with the root rights
[19:18] <paul_beginner> ok i'm super noob atm. I'm not 100% sure what I did, but one here helped me with it. I tryd to run gedit as admin and everything worked fine. I was just wondering: do i have to reset the right for the program or was it a granted one time superuser thing?
[19:18] <ntzrmtthihu777> k1l: I know the right way, lol, but its not working, so I gotta get dirty :P
[19:19] <pbx> -3
[19:19] <ntzrmtthihu777> k1l: it give that error on f7, then in tty1 it tells me job failed to start
[19:19] <k1l> ntzrmtthihu777: the dirty way can cause more problems. be aware of that.
[19:19] <Mizera> hi again... I have two monitor... a digital one, and a LCD... I plug both on my desktop and a have a mirrored display in both screens... but the Monitor application on ubuntu/gnome doesn't find two monitor, only one, so I can't use it to extend my desktop... any ideas?
[19:20] <pbx> i downloaded two different ISOs for installation on my Mac (e.g. http://releases.ubuntu.com/raring/ubuntu-13.04-desktop-amd64+mac.iso) and both failed with "no mountable file systems." wha?
[19:21] <pbx> (MacBookAir3,2 and OS X 10.8.4)
[19:23] <digwiz> If I want to use an older laptop with ubuntu/lubuntu installed on it to share its wireless connection with a desktop PC that wants to run GFWL (which requires UPnP and/or specific ports forwarded for certain games), do I need to enable UPnP/certain ports on the ubuntu/lubuntu install, or just the modem?
[19:23] <pbx> here's an (old) thread describing my problem, but no solutions that i see.
[19:24] <pbx> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1870261
[19:24] <cloneG> hello ubunters I would like to build a nas in my lan and to do so I have a external drive and 3 computers using ubuntu and some dual booting windows...I found a nas adapter from addonics brand but to much complaining I read so I will keep it plain using a host computer to share the external hard drive
[19:25] <cloneG> the point is I cant mount the usb external hard drive at every computer of the lan simultaneously...
[19:25] <ntzrmtthihu777> hmm, I think I may have found a root of the cause. /var/log/lightdm/lightdm.log says failed to load session: /usr/share/xgreeters/lightdm-gtk-greeter.desktop
[19:25] <jacklk> cloneG: that's racist
[19:26] <cloneG> thats why I came to the idea of creating a sym linked folder with the external hard drive which would be shared
[19:26] <cloneG> the question is: can a sym linked folder be lan shared?=
[19:27] <cloneG> jacklk: racist?
[19:27] <paul_beginner> got another noob question. how do i ancor a program in the sidebar?
[19:27] <paul_beginner> anchor
[19:27] <jacklk> paul_beginner: that's racist
[19:27] <enen92> just drag the icon to the sidebar
[19:27] <ntzrmtthihu777> paul_beginner: shoulod be a lock button in the right-clcik context menu.
[19:27] <novafluxx> paul_beginner: you can click and drag it over to the launcher
[19:28] <novafluxx> What ntz said works too.
[19:28] <paul_beginner> ok thanks lol.. super easy
[19:28] <k1l> paul_beginner: make a right click on the symbol and select "keep in launcher"
[19:28] <ntzrmtthihu777> k1l: anyways, got it solved, lol. thanks for the assist anyways, lol. Its a good thing lynx and irssi are among my first things to install on a new system XD
[19:29] <darkangel> Hey if ur Video Memory was to low for games would it Hog the RAM up?
[19:29] <saki`> :|
[19:29] <cloneG> how to share a sym link folder?
[19:29] <saki`> what does this mean? http://pastebin.com/PxvrmgjJ
[19:29] <paul_beginner> hmm.. doesn't work. Its Aptana Studio 3. It works fine but it won't stay in the sidebar :S
[19:29] <usr13> cloneG: How about just share the real one?
[19:30] <usr13> cloneG: With nfs?
[19:31] <cloneG> usr13 the real one is an usb external hard drive mounted in a computer
[19:31] <trism> saki`: it just means the default config file for that package changed, if you haven't edited it you probably just want to say Y, but usually a good idea to check the differences first with D
[19:31] <cloneG> usr13 I cant mount the usb hd on 3 computers at the same time
[19:32] <usr13> cloneG: So share it with nfs
[19:32] <saki`> trism it's on a brand new VPS. is it something the VPS providers use for maintenance?
[19:32] <digwiz> If I want to use an older laptop with ubuntu/lubuntu installed on it to share its wireless connection with a desktop PC that wants to run GFWL (which requires UPnP and/or specific ports forwarded for certain games), do I need to enable UPnP/certain ports on the ubuntu/lubuntu install, or just the modem?
[19:32] <cloneG> usr13 I would like to use samba because I have some dual booting windows
[19:32] <cloneG> usr13 not possible?
[19:33] <trism> saki`: though actually I didn't look closely enough, that is actually an upstart script so you almost definitely want to say Y...although maybe the vps providers modified the file on purpose, in which case you'd want to say N to not break stuff
[19:33] <usr13> cloneG: Yes, it is possible, but I just use both. (The same shared directories can used on either one.)
[19:33] <saki`> yeah thats what i was concerned about
[19:34] <trism> saki`: no it is from the ubuntu upgrade you are running, it prompts in the terminal when config files change
[19:34] <usr13> cloneG: It is up to you though.
[19:34] <trism> saki`: if you look at the differences and pastebin it I'll take a look, might be minor
[19:35] <ntzrmtthihu777> yep, just gave it a reboot and all is well. Apparently it was bugging out because I purged xubuntu-desktop and associated files, including lightdm-gtk-greeter, and since it could not find that it would not work.
[19:35] <usr13> cloneG: In other words, you can use samba and nfs to share the same directories.
[19:35] <cloneG> usr13 the same shared directories can be used on either one...because that shared directory is not a unit!!!!! mine IS a external usb drive
[19:35] <saki`> thanks trism! :D
[19:36] <cloneG> usr13 thats why I was thinking on sym linking a folder to that unit
[19:36] <cloneG> usr13 got it'
[19:36] <cloneG> ?
[19:36] <ntzrmtthihu777> k1l: big thanks, you got my mind looking in the right direction ;)
[19:37] <k1l> np
[19:37] <cloneG> usr13 so that whenever the external drive is mounted contents are sym linked to that shared folder in that computer of the LAN
[19:37] <saki`> here you go trism! :D http://pastebin.com/YA96Yw6L
[19:37] <cloneG> usr13 and the rest of computers of the lan can use them
[19:38] <cloneG> usr13 the point is I already did that but the sym link folder does not appear on network places
[19:39] <cloneG> usr13 nor even in  the computer the folder is in
[19:39] <qki> hey what are you doing here ?
[19:39] <matthias_android>  In the visudo file: i want that all users can start a programm not a specific group or so
[19:39] <usr13> cloneG: Just share the mount point.  (Make the mount point static one and share it as you see fit.) (I do not understand why you are wanting to create symlinks for it in the first place.  Maybe you should just give up the symlink?)
[19:40] <usr13> cloneG: Would you like to explain in detail what you are doing?
[19:40] <cloneG> usr13 yes I guess that would do...how do I set the mount point static?
[19:40] <usr13> cloneG: In /etc/fstab
[19:41] <trism> saki`: ahh they commented out the start on line, yeah you probably just want to say N to that change
[19:41] <usr13> cloneG: You might consider replacing the symlink with the mount point.
[19:41] <matthias_android> ,?
[19:41] <saki`> cool
[19:41] <saki`> thanks dude
[19:41] <usr13> cloneG: blkid | pastebinit  #Let's have a look.
[19:42] <cloneG> usr13: ?
[19:42] <digitalfiz> I have an ubuntu server that is 11.04 and I cant do "apt-get update" anymore how can I upgrade without physical access to the machine?
[19:42] <cloneG> usr13: you want me to paste that code in terminal?
[19:42] <usr13> cloneG: sudo blkid | pastebinit  #Send resulting URL
[19:42] <cloneG> usr13 okay
[19:43] <usr13> yes
[19:43] <cloneG> usr13: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6011521/
[19:44] <usr13> cloneG: So is the USB device you are wanting to share /dev/sdf1 ?
[19:45] <cloneG> usr13: Iomega
[19:45] <usr13> cloneG: sdf1?
[19:45] <trism> saki`: if it pops up again, an alternative would be to accept the change and then use an override file to disable the service: echo manual > /etc/init/nmbd.override;
[19:45] <Ultimate4> Hello there. After reinstalling ubuntu 12.04 LTS from ISO present on /dev/sda1, i am unable to access my Windows XP partition.
[19:45] <usr13> cloneG: mount |pastebinit #Send URL
[19:46] <Ultimate4> What should i do?
[19:46] <cloneG> usr13: sdd1
[19:46] <Slart> digitalfiz: apt-get probably works, it's just that the servers aren't the same any more.. there are archived servers you can use instead but packages aren't updated any more
[19:46] <Slart> !eol
[19:46] <trism> saki`: that way you won't get constantly prompted when samba gets updated
[19:46] <usr13> cloneG: Ok.
[19:46] <usr13> cloneG: What is the symlink you are using?
[19:46] <novafluxx> Ultimate4: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[19:47] <digitalfiz> thats Slart ill look into that
[19:47] <Slart> digitalfiz: check the "Requirements" part of https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades
[19:47] <digwiz> Can anyone help me out with forwarding some ports using iptables, so that I can hopefully get an open NAT type?
[19:47] <cloneG> usr13: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6011530/
[19:48] <novafluxx> Ultimate4: if you installed Ubuntu onto the same partition Windows was installed, you've overwritten Windows and will not be able to boot back into it.
[19:48] <Slart> digitalfiz: those servers.. "old-releases.ubuntu.com" are the archived servers I was talking about
[19:48] <usr13> cloneG: So where do you have /media/Iomega_Ext_Drive symlinked to?
[19:48] <cloneG> usr13: and the symlink I made: sudo ln -s /media/Iomega_Ext_Drive/ /home/ivan/Desktop
[19:48] <k1l> digitalfiz: 10.04 is way out of support. you should consider updating or new installing a supported release
[19:49] <k1l> Ultimate4: where was windows installed? was it /dev/sda1?
[19:49] <usr13> cloneG: So it is /home/ivan/Deskto/Iomega_Ext_Drive ?
[19:49] <neytiri> i need some help, the gui on my desktop wont start, it was running fine last night, i installed updates before i went to bed but now it wont load the gui i checked the logs and dont see any thign that woudl explain it
[19:49] <novafluxx> k1l: I thought 10.04 was an LTS
[19:49] <k1l> novafluxx: he said 11.04
[19:49] <Slart> !10.04
[19:49] <cloneG> usr13: yes but when sharing it I cannot see it in network places
[19:49] <usr13> cloneG: Is that really where you want it?  And the name you want it to be?
[19:49] <k1l> novafluxx: and the desktop version of 10.04 is out of support, too
[19:50] <novafluxx> Ah, thanks.
[19:50] <k1l> neytiri: did you make sure you got the kernel headers installed?
[19:50] <cloneG> usr13 I didnt change name fearful of incompatibilities with the mount name
[19:50] <skulltip> do i complain to the packagers in this channel?
[19:50] <Extreminador> what is the best office ?
[19:50] <usr13> cloneG: Is that really where you want it?  And the name you want it to be?
[19:50] <k1l> neytiri: (the video drivers need that headers to build for a new kernel)
[19:51] <cloneG> usr13: I also shared the /media/Iomega_Ext_Drive
[19:51] <Slart> skulltip: it won't really do much good unless they are actually here to read the complaints.. try filing a bug instead .. or email them directly
[19:51] <k1l> Extreminador: libreoffice, since that is shipped with ubuntu
[19:51] <neytiri> i didnt do a kernal update
[19:51] <neytiri> but how do i check that
[19:51] <novafluxx> k1l: Does that mean if you installed the ubuntu-desktop package in an ubuntu 10.04 server install, you won't see any updates for X or any of the packages included?
[19:51] <usr13> cloneG: Is that really where you want it?  And the name you want it to be?
[19:51] <skulltip> if you have 12.04 and update to 3.19, you'll have to do some manual stuff, like remove all of 3.04, then find and point to 3.19 nvidia-settings after you've installed them.
[19:51] <Extreminador> k1l thanks
[19:51] <k1l> novafluxx: yes
[19:51] <skulltip> update to nvidia 3.19 i mean
[19:51] <cloneG> usr13: hey I am using symlink because this way I dont need to sync more than 600Gb in my computer get it?=
[19:51] <novafluxx> k1l: Thanks
[19:52] <skulltip> Slart - they would be on canonical site?
[19:52] <k1l> neytiri: see your kernel version with "uname -a" and then look if the headers are installed with "dpkg -l | grep -i headers"
[19:52] <usr13> cloneG: Is that really where you want it?  And the name you want it to be?
[19:52] <cloneG> usr13: I wanted to add in my computer only a direction
[19:52] <cloneG> usr13 yes
[19:52] <usr13> cloneG: Ok
[19:52] <cloneG> usr13 though NAS would be a better name
[19:53] <Slart> skulltip: I'm not really sure where.. I'm guessing it would be somewhere in the package information.. try packages.ubuntu.com
[19:53] <usr13> cloneG: rm /home/ivan/Deskto/Iomega_Ext_Drive
[19:53] <cloneG> usr13 okay I remove it and then?
[19:53] <usr13> cloneG: gtksudo gedit /etc/fstab
[19:54] <neytiri> k1l,  what am i lookign for specifically?
[19:54] <usr13> cloneG: Make new line, (at bottom of file is ok), as follows.
[19:54] <cloneG> usr13 gtksudo not found
[19:54] <k1l> neytiri: that the heaaders version matches the kernel version
[19:55] <k1l> neytiri: dpkg -l | grep -i kernel-headers
[19:55] <k1l> neytiri: sry, "linux-headers" not kernel-headers
[19:56] <cloneG> usr13 and the line is?
[19:56] <neytiri> k1l,  there installed
[19:56] <bazhang> cloneG, gksudo, not gtksudo
[19:56] <cloneG> bazhang thanks I noticed
[19:56] <digitalfiz> k1l: it was on 11.04 no 10.04 and im trying to get it to a point where i can do a release upgrade now :)
[19:57] <usr13> cloneG: UUID=C6560CA5560C97F7 /home/ivan/Deskto/Iomega_Ext_Drive vfat  rw,user  0  0
[19:57] <usr13> cloneG: mkdir /home/ivan/Deskto/Iomega_Ext_Drive
[19:58] <usr13> cloneG: gksudo not gtksudo  Sorry.
[19:58] <BLOODMALLOWS> HI IS MATTHEW GARRETT HERE
[19:58] <usr13> cloneG: sudo mount -a
[19:58] <bazhang> !ot | BLOODMALLOWS
[19:58] <k1l> digitalfiz: ok, use the old releases then like its mentiones in the !eol links
[19:59] <bootfiiled> good evening everybody
[19:59] <bootfiiled> I feel unsure about this: i updated but there was a long error message, cause my boot partition was full, now i removed 4 old kernels, space should be enough, but i cant do the upadte again (the other one i just did failed), and i am afraid of rebooting, can i do the installation of the updates again?
[19:59] <cloneG> usr13 done
[19:59] <k1l> neytiri: ok, then get the logs uploaded: .xsession-errors  dmesg and syslog
[20:00] <neytiri> where do i find .xsession-errors?
[20:00] <usr13> ls /home/ivan/Deskto/Iomega_Ext_Drive  #See if you see your files there.
[20:00] <k1l> neytiri: in /home
[20:00] <usr13> cloneG:                             ^^^^^
[20:00] <neytiri> i dont even get the gui login screen its jsut a cmd line screen
[20:01] <cloneG> usr13: thats it?
[20:01] <usr13> cloneG: yes
[20:01] <neytiri> how much of syslog is needed>
[20:01] <cloneG> usr13 what about security issues?
[20:01] <usr13> cloneG: What about security issues?
[20:01] <cloneG> usr13 I want those files only on lan
[20:02] <cloneG> usr13 I wouldnt like to find some of those pictures in the internet
[20:02] <usr13> cloneG: That is network security issue.  It is up to you to configure your network as you see fit.
[20:03] <cloneG> usr13 okay thanks for your help I ll try to understand what we did
[20:03] <usr13> cloneG: Configure your router appropriately.
[20:03] <Ultimate4> k1l: Windows 7 is on /dev/sda1. I can still access it. Windows XP was on /dev/sda3. Ubuntu 12.04 LTS in on /dev/sda2 and backtrack 5 is on /dev/sda5
[20:03] <cloneG> usr13...mac filtering would do?
[20:03] <cloneG> usr13 thanks and good luck
[20:04] <usr13> cloneG: All we did was; We created a static or perminate mount point for your external drive. (Rather than a symlink.)
[20:04] <Ultimate4> k1l: Here's the output of "sudo fdisk -l",  http://paste.ubuntu.com/6011599/
[20:04] <neytiri> k1l,  here is syslog http://pastebin.com/ExGevUn2
[20:05] <usr13> *permanent*
[20:05] <k1l> Ultimate4: sda3 is now your swap partition
[20:06] <Extreminador> guys is LibreOffice Calc 100% compatible with excel ?
[20:06] <Ultimate4> k1l: I don't care about my windows XP. I just want to recover one folder named "Careers" which was originally under Windows XP partition.
[20:06] <k1l> Ultimate4: sda7 is a ntfs partition. maybe that is win xp
[20:06] <neytiri> k1l, here is dmsg http://pastebin.com/qFpgRD1G
[20:06] <k1l> Ultimate4: if it really was sda3 there might be no data left. swap overrides everything that is on the partition
[20:07] <ksigmks> is there any channel for learning operating system ?
[20:07] <k1l> Extreminador: not 100% due to microsoft keeping some secrets about their office
[20:07] <usr13> ksigmks: What do you need to know?
[20:08] <bekks> ksigmks: which operating system?
[20:08] <Ultimate4> k1l: I am not able to mount /dev/sda7. Look at this, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6011609/
[20:08] <usr13> ksigmks: There is ##linux
 every thing in details !
[20:08] <Extreminador> k1l ia ma sking it because i am opening an excel file and in some cells it's giving the error:509 it's a simple subtotal group
[20:08] <Extreminador> ups grrr *i am asking this because...
[20:09] <usr13> ksigmks: There is ##linux
[20:09] <neytiri> k1l,  here is .xsession-errors
[20:09] <neytiri> k1l,  here is .xsession-errors  http://pastebin.com/FA7iZkCH
[20:09] <Jordan_U> Ultimate4: Please pastebin the output of "sudo blkid".
[20:10] <Ultimate4> k1l: /dev/sda3 and /dev/sda6 are two swap partitions (about 500 MB each) which are present from the beginning. Just the order has been changed now i guess.
[20:10] <Ultimate4> A second
[20:11] <ksigmks> i problem more i dont know my ssd is working or not , since my booting is too slow as compared to earlier !
[20:11] <bekks> ksigmks: It is booting, so it is working.
[20:12] <k1l> neytiri: sorry im not familiar with cinnamon
 earlier it was very fast !
[20:13] <Ultimate4> Jordan_U: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6011626/
[20:13] <neytiri> k1l if i can get the gui login screen i can change my desktop enviroment but its jsut a text login screen
[20:14] <usr13> ksigmks: dmesg  #Look for errors
[20:14] <Extreminador> neytiri try ctrl+alt+F7 to change to gui (if you change to console mode)
[20:14] <Jordan_U> Ultimate4: You only currently have 1 NTFS filesystem. If you had more than that before, you've overwritten one of them.
[20:14] <Ultimate4> Jordan_U: My ubuntu is using /dev/sda3 as swap. Look at this, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6011632/     So maybe /dev/sda7 which ubuntu shows as swap hasn't been written yet. It may not be a swap...
[20:15] <neytiri> Extreminador,  let me try that
[20:17] <Ultimate4> Jordan_U: If /dev/sda7 is swap, then why is fdisk -l showing it as "HPFS/NTFS/exFAT" ?
[20:17] <Jordan_U> Ultimate4: What makes you think that sda7 is the partition that was previously used for data?
[20:18] <bekks> ksigmks: If the SSD wouldnt be working, it wont even boot.
[20:18] <bekks> Ultimate4: Because the partition type has nothing to do with its content.
[20:18] <neytiri> Extreminador, it didt work and now i dont even have the console screen
[20:18] <Ultimate4> Jordan_U: Because Windows XP partition's size was approximately equal to size of that partition.
[20:19] <Extreminador> neekz0r ctrl+alt+f1 them
[20:19] <Jordan_U> Ultimate4: Because fdisk doesn't know anything about filesystems, it just knows partition IDs (which are not required to match the filesystem contained in the partition).
 than what should be the problem ?
[20:19] <Extreminador> neytiri ctrl+alt+f1 them and try all the other's F keys as well
[20:19] <bekks> ksigmks: We dont know it, you have to investigate "dmesg".
[20:19] <k1l> neytiri: you have a mix of nvidia drivers installed: 304.88 and 319.32
[20:19] <Extreminador> neytiri but did you installed the unbutu desktop ?
[20:19] <Jordan_U> Ultimate4: How important is the data that was on this partition? Do you have any backups?
[20:19] <k1l> neytiri: did you install the nvidia driver from the website?
[20:19] <neekz0r> Extreminador: thou has summoned me, dost thou have the sacrificial PFY?
[20:20] <hio> is there a way to install zypper instead of aptitude?
[20:20] <Extreminador> neekz0r sorry it was a mistake was traying to call neytiri
[20:20] <neekz0r> Extreminador: there are no mistakes, there are only features
[20:20] <k1l> hio: you need a .deb package system handler
 what is that ?
[20:21] <Ultimate4> Jordan_U: Unfortunately i haven't backed it up. It was important for me. Is there any advanced recovery tool that can manage to recover data from that sda7 partition?
[20:21] <bekks> ksigmks: A command which will show you information about your system.
[20:21] <Extreminador> lool neekz0r in that case it was a temporaly mal function in one of my feature's
[20:21] <wilee-nilee> hio, appears to be opensuse
[20:21] <k1l> neytiri: see line 3165 in syslog
[20:21] <Jordan_U> Ultimate4: Try testdisk first, if that fails try photorec.
[20:22] <neekz0r> Extreminador: so be it! may your buffers never overflow and my your kernel be forever hardened
[20:22] <Jordan_U> Ultimate4: http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk_Step_By_Step
[20:22] <wilee-nilee> !info zypper
[20:22] <hio> wilee-nilee, yes I like zypper better than apt-get stuff
[20:23] <k1l> hio: its not possible
[20:23] <wilee-nilee> !find zypper
[20:23] <hio> that's gay, I hate ubuntu then
[20:23] <ksigmks> i am running win 7  not ubuntu right now !
[20:23] <k1l> hio: wilee-nilee zypper is .rpm based
[20:23] <Jordan_U> hio: Please watch your attitude and don't use "gay" as a derogatory term.
[20:23] <wilee-nilee> !tab | ksigmks
[20:23] <k1l> hio: watch your attitude
[20:23] <hio> whats wrong with .rpm
[20:24] <k1l> hio: ubuntu is .deb based. if you want .rpm ubuntu is the wrong choice
[20:24] <Ultimate4> ty. I will try
[20:24] <Jordan_U> hio: Ubuntu is not RPM based. If you want an RPM based package manager you'll need to use an RPM based Distro (not Ubuntu).
[20:27] <neytiri> k1l,  so  i need to update the drivers?
[20:27] <cloneG> usr13: still there?
[20:27] <cloneG> usr13: http://www.pasteall.org/pic/show.php?id=57882
[20:28] <k1l> neytiri: no. you need to solve the chaos
[20:28] <k1l> neytiri: did you install the drivers from the nvidia site?
[20:29] <fartface> Anyone have any idea as to why on a reboot mdadm or Ubuntu would change a RAID array from /dev/md0 to /dev/md/0?
[20:30] <neytiri> yes origionally
[20:30] <fartface> I've got a headless server at home, and have been having a right bitch of a time with reboots, because half the time I reboot it'll flip flop between md0 and md/0 so my fstab is always off and the boot halts waiting for me to tell it what to do
[20:30] <k1l> neytiri: there you have your problem. remove the nvidia driver and install it from the ubuntu repos
[20:31] <HomelessSanta> Hi all, I'm currently using 12.04.2 LTS and I'm curious if there's anyway I can connect my LG Motion 4G Android device to my computer.
[20:31] <Jordan_U> fartface: Please watch your language. Why not use UUIDs in your /etc/fstab?
[20:32] <fartface> The /dev/md0 UUID?
[20:32] <k1l> neytiri: stop the lightdm then "sudo nvidia-uninstall". after that do a "sudo apt-get install nvidia-current"
[20:33] <fartface> The actual array uses UUIDs, it's assembled with them
[20:33] <ntzrmtthihu777> geeze, anyone else irked at how deep set zeitgeist is in 13.04?
[20:34] <fartface> It's not that it's missing any drives
[20:41] <basant> hey everyone
[20:41] <basant> what is the currently available gui for cron jobs in 12.04
[20:41] <ThePendulum> Greetings
[20:42] <basant> Greeetings ThePendulum
[20:42] <A1Recon> How do i go down a level using cd
[20:42] <PoolShark_> hi
[20:42] <ThePendulum> I am running Ubuntu 13.04. Is there a way to stop Unity from rearranging and removing items from my sidebar?
[20:42] <basant> A1Recon, cd ..
[20:42] <basant> you mean down ie inside or to the parent ?
[20:42] <A1Recon> basant: inside..
[20:42] <k1l> A1Recon: cd ..
[20:43] <neytiri> k1l,  can you repeate that i cant scroll up on my screen
[20:43] <k1l> neytiri: stop the lightdm then "sudo nvidia-uninstall". after that do a "sudo apt-get install nvidia-current"
[20:43] <neytiri> ty
[20:43] <basant> then A1Recon do cd and press tab once or twice you will see all files in there then choose the folder you wish to get into by typing a few letters ( case sensitive)
[20:43] <basant> for them and press tab to autocomplete
[20:43] <basant> and then press enter ie
[20:44] <basant> if you folder  foo has a sub folder called bar
[20:44] <basant> then do this  cd foo
[20:44] <basant> now cd -- tab tab ---- b--- tab -- enter
[20:44] <A1Recon> basant: Thanks!!
[20:44] <basant> np
[20:45] <athathel> hi
[20:47] <A1Recon> basant: Suppose I am in /x/y/z folder in the Terminal. How do i open the z folder from the terminal?
[20:47] <bekks> A1Recon: You dont open it, since you are already in it.
[20:48] <bekks> A1Recon: If you are in /x/y then just "cd z"
[20:48] <neytiri> well time to reboot and see what happinns
[20:48] <A1Recon> bekks: I want to open it.... do i use nautilus?
[20:48] <xavier23> Hi! Anyone know if i can use 12.04 with OpenVZ?
[20:49] <basant> A1Recon, if you are in a folder that is the parent of z then you need to get into z. If you are already inside z ( see the left side of the prompt to verify, if it says z there then you are already in it ) then you need to type -- ls
[20:49] <basant> to see all the files in that folder
[20:50] <xavier23> anyone use openVZ at all?
[20:50] <ShinyObjects> Anyone know how to verify the integrity of a .deb package?
[20:50] <ShinyObjects> CRC, etc?
[20:50] <basant> A1Recon, also refer to this page  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[20:50] <ShinyObjects> doesn't look like dpkg has an option for that
[20:50] <zykotick9> ShinyObjects: lol, looking for support in #ubuntu now ;)
[20:50] <basant> that will help
[20:50] <ShinyObjects> Haha - yep zykotick9
[20:50] <ShinyObjects> zykotick9: can't hurt to check a few places.
[20:50] <basant> anyone here who can tell me what is the gui for cron now ?
[20:51] <A1Recon> basant: You from India?
[20:51] <zykotick9> ShinyObjects: DEB doesn't have that option, end of story...  apt/aptitude do...  you have a special case, use MD5 to verify if you want.
[20:51] <ShinyObjects> extracting with "ar" and then extracting with gzip just seems a bit ghetto
[20:51] <basant> A1Recon, yep
[20:51] <basant> why ?
[20:51] <trism> A1Recon: if you just want to open the file browser for the current directory: nautilus .
[20:51] <ShinyObjects> Thanks for the info zykotick9.
[20:51] <A1Recon> trism: Thanks!!
[20:52] <pbx> anyone else having the "no mountable file systems" problem with ISOs on the mac?  e.g. http://releases.ubuntu.com/raring/ubuntu-13.04-desktop-amd64+mac.iso
[20:52] <A1Recon> basant: I am from there too.
[20:52] <basant> oo okay nice
[20:54] <^^fc^^> hello there. is that possible to connect via wireless to the internet with an ubuntu server within virtual box?
[20:55] <wilee-nilee> pbx, where are you trying to mount it?
[20:55] <zykotick9> ^^fc^^: a question for #vbox i'd suggest
[20:55] <pbx> wilee-nilee - anywhere. disk utility, finder
[20:55] <pbx> wilee-nilee - https://www.google.com/search?q=%22no+mountable+file+systems%22+iso+ubuntu+mac
[20:56] <wilee-nilee> pbx, disk utility?
[20:57] <wilee-nilee> archive manager in ubuntu will mount it
[20:58] <wilee-nilee> pbx, a google search means nopthing you need to detail what you want and the final goal here.
[20:58] <pbx> wilee-nilee - that's nice, but i am trying to install ubuntu
[20:58] <wilee-nilee> pbx, HOw?
[20:58] <pbx> wilee-nilee - by downloading an iso, burning or mounting it, and running the installer
[20:59] <wilee-nilee> pbx, Ah, cool never ran a apple myself, someone might know.
[20:59] <pbx> wilee-nilee - i'm not a noob. i've done this dozens of times over the years.  something has changed.
[20:59] <wilee-nilee> never sais you were.
[20:59] <wilee-nilee> said
[21:00] <pbx> wilee-nilee - you said the google search means nothing.  i strongly disagree.  you were trying to brush me off.
[21:02] <A1Recon> I have some problems with the wget command. Is it okay to ask about it in this channel?
[21:02] <wilee-nilee> A1Recon, ubuntu related yes
[21:03] <wilee-nilee> !wget
[21:06] <willg> should i be worried about doing a dist-upgrade on a vps server (namecheap) ?
[21:08] <zykotick9> willg: do you know what dist-upgrade means?
[21:09] <zykotick9> !dist-upgrade
[21:10] <willg> !upgrade
[21:10] <TaZeR> hey did you guys know that Fedora is much better than Ubuntu?
[21:11] <willg> thanks .. wrong term, i want to do a release upgrade on a vps and am wondering if there's any caveats i should be aware of
[21:11] <k1l> TaZeR: dont troll in here. stick to the guidelines please
[21:11] <ShinyObjects> Yep! Totally! Ok, your mission is complete and you may go.
[21:11] <TaZeR> just stating fact trying to help you out
[21:11] <arthurdent> is there a way to force reload dconf without logging out and back in?
[21:11] <ShinyObjects> Thanks! I totally agree. Your mission is complete and you may go.
[21:11] <bekks> willg: Depending on the VPS system used, there may be many caveats - stock distro kernels may break booting, etc.
[21:12] <TaZeR> get Fedora noob
[21:12] <willg> bekks: ok, that's what i was worried about - i'll be worried about it :)
[21:13] <isasha> Hai
[21:13] <zykotick9> willg: i think you'll find, most, experienced ubuntu users - do fresh installs... upgrading to new releases, tend to break things with ubuntu...
[21:13] <isasha> I'm having a bit of an issue with Ubuntu on my Macbook 4,2 - the trackpad stops working after rebooting and needs to be manually turned on and off in the settings
[21:15] <Sik> Hello, how do I downgrade ibus-anthy to the previous version? Looks like it's sudo apt-get install ibus-anthy=«something» but I have no idea what version it should be. Yes, trying to downgrade since the latest version breaks.
[21:16] <mojtaba> Hi, Could you please let me know how can I upgrade my kernel to 3.10? or 3.11? I am using ubuntu 13.04 with kernel 3.5.8.
[21:16] <mojtaba> Should I upgrade at all?
[21:17] <k1l> mojtaba: why do you want to upgrade?
[21:18] <bariho> is there a way to play non-youtube flash videos (e.g. this one http://www.gamestar.de/videos/tests,17/splinter-cell-blacklist,71523.html ) without the flash plugin? I tried the gnash plugin and cclive, neither worked.
[21:18] <mojtaba> k1l: I thought maybe the new kernel is better, I mean power efficient.
[21:18] <mojtaba> I am using Dell Studio 1555
[21:18] <zykotick9> Sik: downgrading anything is unsupported... there "should" only ever be one version of a package in a particular release...
[21:18] <bekks> bariho: For playing flash videos, you need flash.
[21:18] <k1l> mojtaba: ne kernel versions only come with a new ubuntu release (besides the LTS version). so the 3.11 kernel will be in 13.10.   but newer kernel doesnt mean it runs better with your install
[21:18] <mojtaba> k1l: I see, ok thanks.
[21:19] <Sik> zykotick9: the current version outright hangs if I try to use it (and makes CPU usage spike to 100%, at that)
[21:19] <Sik> And I really need it fixed ASAP, today I had to type something in Japanese by copypasting characters by hand...
[21:19] <zykotick9> Sik: report a bug...  only suggestion i have.
[21:19] <crazycool> alguien me puede ayudar para configurar samba
[21:20] <Sik> zykotick9: already did that, I can't wait until the bug gets fixed some day :|
[21:20] <k1l> !sp | crazycool
[21:20] <crazycool> ?
[21:20] <k1l> !spanish | crazycool
[21:20] <chillpill_>  Translation (es|en): | CrazyCool
[21:20] <zykotick9> Sik: i wouldn't even count on it ever being fixed... but maybe?  well, good luck.
[21:20] <crazycool> ok thk
[21:21] <Sik> zykotick9: well, that's kind of a big issue I'd say, since it'd affect anybody who needs to write in Japanese, and it's annoying because it was working perfectly fine a few days ago
[21:21] <zykotick9> Sik: well, hopefully, it will be a "serious" bug then.
[21:21] <OerHeks> !dutch | OerHeks
[21:21] <chillpill_>  Translation (nl|en): | OerHeks
[21:22] <Sik> zykotick9: what do I do meanwhile? I can't waste time copypasting characters by hand all the time
[21:22] <zykotick9> Sik: there isn't much you "can" do...  i have no suggestions.  good luck.
[21:22] <rf900> ubuntu-fr
[21:23] <OerHeks> !fr | rf900
[21:24] <Sik> Somebody else who has any workaround? Even if it involves downgrading Anthy somehow, even if it's unsupported? :|
[21:24] <Sik> I could care less if it's unsupported as long as it works
[21:25] <OerHeks> Sik, did you try synaptic to search for older versions?
[21:25] <zykotick9> Sik: find the old DEB and try installing it...
[21:26] <A1Recon> So I want to download some images from a site and the address of any jpg image goes like "example.com/images/xyz/abc/image.jpg". And I thought that, since the images must be stored in one location I can use the wget command to download them all. So I typed in "wget -A .jpg example.com/images/xyz/abc/" in the Terminal. But it downloaded a HTML file with heading "Index of /images/xyz/abc" and the list of names of the jpg files. In the second try I ev
[21:26] <Sik> OerHeks: it lists the older versions? *checks*
[21:26] <Sik> ...Synaptic crashed what
[21:27] <rick_santos> hi
[21:27] <DarkAceZ> Google is watching u
[21:27] <rick_santos> i from brazil
[21:27] <Sik> OK now it's working
[21:27] <vidirr> Hey all. I'm having trouble with a USB WiFi stick I just bought. lsusb -v gives me "RTL8188CUS 802.11n WLAN" but I can't for the life of me find the correct 12.04 modules .. any ideas?
[21:27] <Sik> OerHeks: OK, in Synaptic, ibus-anthy selected, how do I check for older versions?
[21:27] <wilee-nilee> !ot | DarkAceZ
[21:28] <k1l> !br | rick_santos
[21:28] <rick_santos> ddd
[21:28] <rick_santos> #ubuntu-br
[21:29] <wilee-nilee> vidirr, needs a wrapper I believe
[21:29] <rick_santos> hello
[21:29] <vidirr> wilee-nilee: Could you clarify plese? :)
[21:29] <vidirr> wilee-nilee: I found the driver on the realtek webpage, but it's made for older kernels so it wont compile.
[21:30] <wilee-nilee> vidirr, http://askubuntu.com/search?q=RTL8188CUS
[21:30] <wilee-nilee> vidirr, I'm not up on the exact process is all.
[21:30] <OerHeks> Sik, according to https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ibus-anthy there has been no update recently, only Saucy
[21:31] <Catbugsayshi> Having a problem trying to burna  dvd in xfburn. Its saying "drive is empty" But I know its not..  burning device is showing up as "TSSTcorp DVD+-RW TS-H653f. This could be as simple as manualy mounting the drive but i dont know how to go about that.
[21:31] <Sik> OerHeks: huh, weird, then what else can cause Anthy to hang?
[21:32] <zykotick9> Catbugsayshi: ahhh, you don't mount what you want to burn to.  just sayin'.
[21:32] <vidirr> wilee-nilee: Oh wow how my googling skills have failed me. Don't know why I didn't try that. If it works you are my hero!
[21:33] <A1Recon> wilee-nilee: I want to download all jpg files in here "example.com/images/xyz/abc/" . I type in "wget -A .jpg example.com/images/xyz/abc/" but I get the index.html file only. What do I add to the command so that it downloads the jpg files?
[21:33] <OerHeks> Sik i don't know really, maybe you have better chance in ubuntu japan? whose guys should be up2date
[21:33] <OerHeks> c/those
[21:33] <Sik> OerHeks: where do I go? (and I hope they don't speak Japanese, my Japanese is quite... slow to say the least)
[21:35] <wilee-nilee> A1Recon, I think you will have to point wget at each image.
[21:35] <OerHeks> Sik, try and find out > /join #ubuntu-jp
[21:35] <Sik> OK
[21:36] <snowrichard> hi
[21:37] <Catbugsayshi> Having a problem trying to burna  dvd in xfburn. Its saying "drive is empty" But I know its not..  burning device is showing up as "TSSTcorp DVD+-RW TS-H653f. Any ideas?
[21:38] <wilee-nilee> Catbugsayshi, some discs do not show up, I just had to return some fro mmemorex from amazon.
[21:38] <wilee-nilee> Catbugsayshi, Is the disc formatted, have you tried other dvdv apps?
[21:39] <Catbugsayshi> wilee-nilee, its fresh out of a package. Ill try another app. Any sugegstied apps for burning an ISO?
[21:39] <snowrichard> k3b , brasero
[21:39] <esion> can some give me some good packages to install with package conroller php and front end user :D#
[21:39] <vidirr> wilee-nilee: Well that didn't go as hoped, now the WiFi stick causes a kernel panic ..
[21:40] <wilee-nilee> Catbugsayshi, brasero or k3b, k3b will iknstall a bunch of kde isall
[21:40] <zykotick9> Catbugsayshi: you might want to try the terminal based growisofs
[21:40] <basant> can someone gimme the syntax to use if I wish to run a file  via cron . I usually run it by typing  ./run.py  or   python run.py   from inside the foo directory
[21:41] <wilee-nilee> vidirr, If it were me I would get a usb modem, many cheap ones that plug and play.
[21:41] <basant> the man just gives me ways to run .sh files
[21:41] <vidirr> wilee-nilee: Well I need to use wifi since I cant access the router directly.
[21:41] <enkindle> basant, it should work fine to do /foo/run.py
[21:41] <Left_Turn> does /dev/mt0 exist on ubuntu?
[21:41] <wilee-nilee> vidirr, a wifi usb is what I mean
[21:42] <vidirr> wilee-nilee: Thats what this is :v
[21:42] <wilee-nilee> vidirr, I would get one that just works.
[21:42] <enkindle> basant, or python /foo/run.py of course
[21:42] <vidirr> wilee-nilee: haha.. well that's an idea! :D
[21:42] <wilee-nilee> lifes to short. ;)
[21:43] <Catbugsayshi> wilee-nilee, Thanks. brasero seems to be working. *Crosses fingers*'
[21:43] <wilee-nilee> Catbugsayshi, cool.
[21:43] <basant> enkindle, what do I put in th gnome-schedule in the 'description' and 'command' . I have put --  hello   and   /usr/bin/python2.7 /home/basant/projects/basantProject/run.py     and also chosen   'default behaviour'
[21:43] <basant> it does not run
[21:44] <basant> gives me errors
[21:44] <enkindle> basant, not sure, i only use ubuntu server
[21:44] <basant> enkindle, then what do I put in the crontab -e
[21:44] <basant> ?
[21:44] <Rallias> So... on my master xen nodes, whenever I do a reboot, it shuts down instead of reboots. How do I fix that issue?
[21:44] <wilee-nilee> Rallias, What is the OS?
[21:45] <Rallias> wilee-nilee, Ubuntu 13.04 Server
[21:45] <basant> I have this line there --* * * * * /usr/bin/python /usr/share/gnome-schedule/xwrapper.py c 2 # JOB_ID_2
[21:46] <samruda> how to create customized live iso image of my  ubuntu 12.04...please suggest me some software..
[21:46] <wilee-nilee> samruda, This is support, that is not.
[21:47] <wilee-nilee> samruda, Sorry I missread that .
[21:47] <MonkeyDust> !uck | samruda
[21:48] <basant> wilee-nilee, could u tell me if you know . * * * * * /usr/bin/python /usr/share/gnome-schedule/xwrapper.py c 2 # JOB_ID_2  why this is not working
[21:48] <esion> how do you toggle the side bar in sublime
[21:49] <samruda> i actually customized my desktop using remastersys but i am not able to create iso image...
[21:49] <samruda> please help me..
[21:50] <wilee-nilee> esion, here is one option. http://arrogantprogrammer.blogspot.com/2013/05/toggle-sidebar-in-sublime-text.html
[21:51] <samruda> ubottu :  i actually customized my desktop using remastersys but i am not able to create iso image...please suggest some software to create iso image of my desktop...
[21:52] <samruda> wilee-nilee:   i actually customized my desktop using remastersys but i am not able to create iso image...please suggest some software to create iso image of my desktop...
[21:56] <cecco> Hi everybody
[21:56] <basant> anyone knows cron and how to run it
[21:57] <exidos> hi cecco
[21:57] <MonkeyDust> basant  crontab -e -- sudo crontab -e if you have commands that require sudo
[21:59] <basant> MonkeyDust, I already tried it and it is not running. I am just trying to run a simple cron script ie  run   a file.py
[21:59] <th0r> Basant: I found it easier to put my cron lines in a text file and then load them with (I think) crontab -l
[21:59] <basant> it runs fine when I enter the folder and ./file.py  or  python file.py
[22:00] <basant> th0r,  my  line reads -- * * * * * /usr/bin/python /usr/share/gnome-schedule/xwrapper.py c 2 # JOB_ID_2
[22:00] <samruda_>  i actually customized my desktop using remastersys but i am not able to create iso image...please suggest some software to create iso image of my desktop...
[22:00] <basant> I am using gnome-schedule
[22:00] <basant> what is wrong in there
[22:00] <basant> my error message reads
[22:00] <samruda_>  i actually customized my desktop using remastersys but i am not able to create iso image...please suggest some software to create iso image of my desktop...
[22:01] <basant>  CRON[5340]: (basant) MAIL (mailed 1 byte of output; but got status 0x00ff, #012)
[22:01] <Extreminador>  guys the mozilla thunderbird (the email sofware) is not coping the diferent directorys i jhave on hotmail and is not copying as well the address book
[22:01] <samruda_>  i actually customized my desktop using remastersys but i am not able to create iso image...please suggest some software to create iso image of my desktop...
[22:01] <Extreminador> is there a more complete software around ?
[22:01] <th0r> Basant: I THINK you will need to quote that command since it includes spaces, but been a long time since I messed with cron
[22:02] <samruda_> dhanasekar: i actually customized my desktop using remastersys but i am not able to create iso image...please suggest some software to create iso image of my desktop...
[22:02] <wilee-nilee> !patience | samruda_
[22:03] <Maple__> samruda_, try using Brasero
[22:03] <Maple__> 'new project' under 'file'
[22:04] <Maple__> and select the directory you'd like to create into an iso > burn
[22:04] <samruda_> maple_: thank you
[22:08] <samruda_> maple:which option should i select in new project? is that new data project?
[22:10] <samruda_> Maple_:which option should i select in new project? is that new data project?
[22:11] <bootfiiled> can anyone help me how to restart an update in 12.04???
[22:14] <zykotick9> bootkiller: "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" might work, if not try "sudo apt-get -f install" first, then the dist-upgrade
[22:14] <zykotick9> bootkiller: if you mean 12.04->12.10... then i have no idea.
[22:28] <jackarg> hey! I'd like some help concerning my nvidia geforce driver, but first, how do I know if it's in use when i'm running for example wow?
[22:30] <Dr_Willis> jackarg:  run the nvidia-settings tool and it will tell you if you re using the nvidia driver or not
[22:32] <jackarg> Dr_Willis: no I'm not, which is what I thought. So I need to run nvidia-xconfig, but every time I do that my screen drastically changes resolution and bugs and I have to delete the xconfig file (if i remember correctly). How do I bypass this?
[22:32] <Dr_Willis> I dont need to run nvidia-xconfig at all. :) normally. I dont even need a xorg.conf file normally these days.
[22:33] <Dr_Willis> you DID install the nvidia drivers?
[22:33] <k1l_> jackarg: which video card you got there?
[22:33] <jackarg> well, what do you mean by that Dr_Willis?
[22:33] <Zekka> Excuse me for being a bother: I'm currently configuring 12.04 on a Toshiba Satellite c875-s7103 and my wireless device is not only undetected, but no network controller appears when I sudo lspci. I built/installed the Realtek RTL8188CE driver because someone else with a C875 had success doing so, but it did not resolve the problem.
[22:33] <Dr_Willis> jackarg:  if you did not install the NVIDIA drivers.. then you are using teh open sourced drivers..
[22:33] <jackarg> k1l I have nvidia geforce 710m
[22:33] <Zekka> (apologies if that message was truncated - I can resend it if it was)
[22:33] <Dr_Willis> !nvidia
[22:33] <jackarg> Dr_Willis how do you install them? I think I did but remind me
[22:33] <Dr_Willis> the addational-drivers tool/tab
[22:34] <Dr_Willis> depends on what release you are using of ubuntu
[22:34] <Zekka> I'm currently attempting to determine what network hardware my machine contains - the spec sheet on the Toshiba website didn't seem clear.
[22:34] <Zekka> Wireless works correctly under Windows 8.
[22:34] <k1l_> Zekka: pastebin a "lsusb &&lspci"
[22:34] <jackarg> Dr_Willis, the additional drivers app does not detect any drivers...
[22:34] <Zekka> k1l_ - I checked both, but one moment
[22:34] <jackarg> i'm on 12.04
[22:35] <k1l_> jackarg: is it a optimus card with 2 video cards?
[22:35] <Dr_Willis> jackarg:  this is Not one of those Dual-GPU Optmius based systems is it?
[22:35] <Dr_Willis> for the best gameplay. You may want to be using the latest ubuntu release also.
[22:35] <jackarg> k1l, sorry for being a noob but I don't know
[22:35] <Dr_Willis> Unless you have some other need to stick with the LTS release
[22:35] <jackarg> Dr_Willis i repeat but I don't know
[22:35] <k1l_> jackarg: please show a "lspci" in a pastebin
[22:36] <Zekka> k1l_ - http://pastebin.com/CJfK6JRG . You'll notice an ethernet controller here, but googling seemed to tell me this was a wired-only device.
[22:36] <jackarg> k1l: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6012041/
[22:36] <Zekka> Wired networking works as expected.
[22:37] <jackarg> Dr_Willis, I just like being stable on 12.04 but if I really need to I can switch
[22:37] <k1l_> jackarg: it is a nvidia optimus device with a intel video card and a nvidia video card
[22:37] <jackarg> k1l: so what do you suggest?
[22:37] <k1l_> jackarg: so you either need to turn one off in the bios or you go with the bumblebee driver
[22:37] <k1l_> !bumblebee | jackarg
[22:38] <k1l_> !nvidia
[22:38] <Vivekananda> hey everyone. I have ruined my crontab permissions somehow. I installed gnome-schedule and when I try to save a new job I get not permitted in the console
[22:38] <Vivekananda> what do I do ?
[22:38] <jackarg> 2 questions. what is this "!somethingorother" exclemation point thing? also, I don't know what that means, why would I need to turn off a driver? Isn't bumblebee only good for battery saving?
[22:39] <jackarg> k1l
[22:39] <k1l_> jackarg: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HybridGraphics
[22:40] <Zekka> k1l_ - Let me know if you need any further information, although you seem busy at the moment.
[22:40] <k1l_> Zekka: the pastebin is not loading here, yet
[22:40] <Vivekananda> jackarg: the !something is a way to ask the friendly bot for an answer to a keyword that is already in there
[22:41] <Vivekananda> I have never tried it so let me try  !ubuntu
[22:41] <Zekka> k1l_ - It's possible I retyped the URL incorrectly: I'm IRCing from a different computer than the one I'm debugging.
[22:41] <jackarg> k1l, without knowing much how that works, is there any additional help you could give or should I continue research on my own? i'll probably come back in this chat to ask once once again if you don't mind
[22:41] <Vivekananda> !ubuntu
[22:41] <jackarg> thanks vivekananda
[22:41] <Zekka> The URL ought to be http://pastebin.com/CJfK6JRG , after double-checking
[22:42] <k1l_> jackarg: start reading that wiki page i gave you, that should exlplain most stuff. if you have more questions dont bother to ask the channel
[22:43] <jackarg> k1l and you say this is a solution to not get the bad resolution when activating nvidia? Also, I am guessing but are you saying I should deactivate the default driver and make nvidia default?
[22:43] <k1l_> jackarg: you have 2 options:
[22:43] <k1l_> jackarg: 1) is to deactivate one video card in bios
[22:44] <k1l_> jackarg: 2) is to got with a driver that can handle both video cards (=nvidia optimus technology)
[22:44] <k1l_> jackarg: both video cards with no special driver doesnt work like you know right now
[22:44] <daftykins> 3) run windows
[22:45] <jackarg> lol daftykins, if you are the one from yesterday you know i have problems with that
[22:45] <daftykins> with windows?
[22:45] <daftykins> ah were you the guy wanting to install windows after ubuntu the other day?
[22:46] <k1l_> Zekka: sry, my ISP seems to have routing problems which include pastebin.com so i cant help on that so far
[22:46] <jackarg> k1l: so it's ok to use nvidia to run everything? Why doesn't everyone just do that?
[22:46] <jackarg> daftykins you bet
[22:46] <Zekka> k1l_ - Would you be able to access another pastebin website such as Mozilla's pastebin?
[22:46] <daftykins> jackarg: higher power consumption and so on
[22:46] <Vivekananda> a little help with crontab please. I I am getting permission denied
[22:47] <daftykins> crikey it's Vivekananda, you've gotta be the most regular customer here :)
[22:47] <Zekka> I've tried pasting it again here: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2895463
[22:48] <jackarg> daftykins, that makes sense. k1l, so what I need is a driver that can enable me to select whether I want to use my intel card or my nvidia card is that right? And where can i download/what is the name of this driver?
[22:48] <k1l_> jackarg: please read that wiki page i gave you
[22:48] <k1l_> jackarg: its all explained there :)
[22:48] <daftykins> you know i should really try out 13.04 and see what everyone's hassles are with optimus
[22:48] <daftykins> my laptop is optimus and i keep seeing people struggle XD
[22:49] <jackarg> k1l, haha ok, will do. Thanks, bye!
[22:49] <jackarg> daftykins i'm on 12.04!
[22:49] <daftykins> for the LTS element?
[22:49] <jackarg> just because I haven't had the time to spend a day installing 13.04...and the fact that i need to waste another thumb drive
[22:50] <jackarg> daftykins ^
[22:50] <daftykins> jackarg: you know flash drives are reusable? :)
[22:50] <k1l_> Zekka: that ethernet device is a LAN device, no Wifi
[22:50] <jackarg> daftykins serious?! I thought once you burned the iso it was all over...omagad
[22:51] <Zekka> k1l_ - I know. I suspect another device should be listed that handles wireless networking, given that wireless networking seems to work correctly on my windows boot.
[22:51] <jackarg> daftykins you mean you can just burn it again?
[22:51] <daftykins> jackarg: you're joking with me right? USB flash drive?
[22:52] <k1l_> Zekka: make sure there are no kill siwtches active. like hardware switch or shortcut
[22:52] <k1l_> Zekka: now there is no wifi hardware.
[22:52] <jackarg> daftykins uhh...yes. hey I'm...relatively new to ubuntu...
[22:52] <daftykins> Zekka: is it an Acer computer?
[22:52] <Zekka> k1l_ - That seemed like the likeliest explanation earlier - I checked briefly earlier but I'll look again
[22:52] <daftykins> jackarg: you can format and reuse flash drives lots of times :)
[22:52] <Zekka> daftykins - No, a Toshiba Satellite c875
[22:53] <daftykins> Zekka: i have a suggestion if you'd like to humour me
[22:53] <jackarg> k1l and daftykins are you guys always here helping people? thanks for telling me btw dafty
[22:53] <Zekka> daftykins - What are your thoughts?
[22:53] <daftykins> Zekka: first grab us the make + model of the wireless device from within Windows
[22:54] <Zekka> daftykins - One moment: I'll boot over now.
[22:54] <k1l_> /afk
[22:55] <ATaTTack> hey
[22:55] <daftykins> hi
[22:55] <ATaTTack> whats up?
[22:55] <daftykins> jackarg: i tend to lurk here helping/hindering a lot, yeah
[22:55] <daftykins> ATaTTack: the sky, often. do you have a question?
[22:56] <Zekka> daftykins - It appears I've configured my dual-boot incorrectly, one moment while I coerce it into booting into Windows again
[22:56] <jackarg> good, you two seem pretty experienced. see you some other time maybe, gtg
[22:56] <jackarg> daftykins ^
[22:56] <ATaTTack> yea, was wondering about best file sharing software
[22:56] <daftykins> o/
[22:56] <jackarg> bye!
[22:56] <Vivekananda> I am getting this error on trying to save a cron job -- http://pastebin.com/ajFe50Q7
[22:56] <daftykins> ATaTTack: what kind of files do you want to share? :) legal ones i hope...
[22:57] <Zekka> Oh, wireless started working after a reboot. It's strange because I rebooted once before and it had no effect
[22:57] <daftykins> Zekka: what device comes up?
[22:57] <ATaTTack> oh of course, but cant find utorrent for ubuntu
[22:57] <daftykins> Zekka: have you only ever booted into ubuntu after being powered off?
[22:57] <daftykins> ATaTTack: it doesn't really have a proper Linux graphical version yet, try rtorrent or any number of alternatives
[22:57] <Zekka> daftykins - I've only booted into Ubuntu after a restart.
[22:58] <[Gentoo]> ATaTTack: i think transmission is built in
[22:58] <daftykins> Zekka: warm one? that should've worked, hrmm
[22:58] <[Gentoo]> if not its prob the best gui one youl get
[22:58] <Zekka> The device listed is an RTL8188CE, which is a Realtek card
[22:58] <ATaTTack> kk, will do. thanks man. so whets topic? or is there one?
[22:58] <Zekka> To be clear, the device is working now for some reason in Ubuntu
[22:58] <grimeton> Zekka: that's called a surprise fix
[22:58] <Zekka> I did toggle the switch to no effect while it was running earlier (before the reboot)
[22:59] <PoolShark_> why can't Ubuntu 12.04 server deal with VMDirectPath?
[22:59] <daftykins> Zekka: sometimes the kernel won't see changes with that, a full reboot will sort it
[22:59] <Zekka> I don't know enough about linux architecture to say but my gut is that it checked for hardware once and then cached a 'not working' result
[22:59] <ATaTTack> why not jsut boot to usb then install directly from there?
[23:00] <daftykins> ATaTTack: who are you talking to?
[23:00] <Zekka> I'll stay in channel for now - I may be asking for help with grub configuration soon given that I may have botched my dual-boot
[23:00] <daftykins> Zekka: guess it's time for you to fix windows now!
[23:00] <daftykins> !grub | zekka
[23:00] <daftykins> :>
[23:00] <daftykins> good luck
[23:00] <Zekka> It certainly is. Thanks, by the way.
[23:01] <ATaTTack> zekka trying to dual boot from hard disk i asssume
[23:01] <Zekka> ATaTTack - That's right.
[23:02] <Zekka> My previous ubuntu installs have been through wubi so I was (unreasonably) expecting the windows bootloader to load before grub
[23:02] <ATaTTack> ?zekka
[23:02] <Vivekananda> hello anyone please gimme an idea for http://pastebin.com/ajFe50Q7
[23:02] <Zekka> but I think grub is currently on the MBR.
[23:03] <ATaTTack> i thought grub had gpt problems
[23:04] <[Gentoo]> ATaTTack: what problems
[23:05] <olupin> Hi, I'm trying to create another graphical interface on a "non-existing" screen, so I can see it trought VNC. I'm trying to do it with vncserver. Any idea what I should put in the xstartup file? I only get a grey screen when I connect to the vnc server.
[23:05] <ATaTTack> table recognitions, generally
[23:05] <teratoma> i have a modal Keyboard Shortcuts window open.  how do i close it?
[23:05] <muelli> teratoma: Esc ?
[23:05] <ATaTTack> also how to direct a question on here
[23:05] <[Gentoo]> ATaTTack: on a bios system you need a seperate small (~1MB) EF02 partition
[23:06] <teratoma> muelli: nope.  still there
[23:07] <ATaTTack> hmmm, almost flawless with usb installer i found, took a few trys but ultimately good
[23:07] <ATaTTack> how do i speak specifically to users on here?
[23:08] <[Gentoo]>  /query
[23:08] <[Gentoo]>  /query user
[23:08] <[Gentoo]> do you mean private message, or to hilight their nick
[23:08] <ATaTTack> both
[23:08] <[Gentoo]> most irc client have tab completion
[23:09] <[Gentoo]> so type party of their nick and press tab
[23:09] <[Gentoo]> to pm its the /query nick
[23:10] <arthurdent> how could i change another users dconf settings as root?
[23:10] <ATaTTack> [Gentoo], cool
[23:13] <ATaTTack> .
[23:19] <Vivekananda> hey everyone what does this mean --  http://pastebin.com/YiwAzh0y
[23:20] <wilee-nilee> !tab | ATaTTack
[23:20] <daftykins> wilee-nilee: you've really gotta leave the bot alone =/
[23:20] <wilee-nilee> ATaTTack, Don't pm without asking first is all.
[23:21] <wilee-nilee> daftykins, YOu gotta grow up.
[23:21] <daftykins> wilee-nilee: ...? why's that?
[23:22] <daftykins> you're repeating answers already given.
[23:23] <sisterFister> Hey everyone. I'm having an issue after updating yesterday. :[ After running boot repair because when I select ubuntu from the grub menu (which is now a picture of the earth and stars instead of the normal purple for some reason) i got this pastebin link from boot repair http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6012096/ can I please get some help ?
[23:24] <Sik> Question... What does sudo apt-get dist-upgrade do?
[23:24] <honestly> sisterFister: that sounds like the debian splash o.O
[23:25] <sisterFister> honestly: what's that mean? :0
[23:25] <Vivekananda> hello
[23:25] <sisterFister> it does say debian on the bottom corner of that menu
[23:25] <daftykins> Sik: updates all the packages on the system to the latest versions.
[23:25] <daftykins> Sik: check out the 'man' page for 'apt-get' for more info
[23:25] <qin> Sik: man apt-get, smart upgrade
[23:26] <wilee-nilee> Sik, Upgrades kernels in the release, and a few other tings I believe.
[23:26] <honestly> sisterFister: it means your ubuntu has reverted to its archaic form D:
[23:26] <sisterFister> honestly: is there any way to fix it?
[23:27] <honestly> lemme check that paste
[23:27] <Sik> Well that explains everything x.X (yep, accidentally ran it thinking it was something else... whoops, though I was gonna do something like this eventually anyway)
[23:27] <sisterFister> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6012096/
[23:27] <honestly> well
[23:27] <honestly> is that what you expect from your formatting?
[23:27] <Vivekananda> a little help with crontab please --- http://pastebin.com/hbVYQvrw
[23:28] <wilee-nilee> Sik, Don't run it if you see a partial upgrade in the update manager or upgrade one.
[23:28] <sisterFister> honestly: what do you mean ?
[23:28] <daftykins> Vivekananda: please stop repeating so often
[23:28] <qin> Sik: that's very good...
[23:28] <honestly> sisterFister: it says your first hard drive partition can't be recognized
[23:28] <Sik> wilee-nilee: this was after running the update manager yesterday actually, so... ^^;
[23:29] <wilee-nilee> Sik, You noticed the key word "partial" right?
[23:29] <honestly> your first two actually
[23:29] <Sik> wilee-nilee: this was after installing any updates remaining yesterday
[23:29] <sisterFister> soo...reinstall grub?
[23:31] <honestly> sisterFister: dunno
[23:31] <Extreminador> the thunderbird mail is the best ranking email ? good lord
[23:32] <wilee-nilee> Extreminador, and this relates to support how?
[23:32] <daftykins> sisterFister: have you at any point added debian repos to your software sources?
[23:32] <Extreminador> isn´t there any other captable of copy evrething from the email (address, messages, directorys, etc)
[23:32] <Extreminador> ?
[23:32] <Extreminador> lol wilee-nilee i was still writing...
[23:33] <honestly> sisterFister: what update did you do yesterday?
[23:33] <xmetal> :) @ my kernel issues i had related to a goofed up deb ... fixed now and upgraded kernel
[23:33] <daftykins> Extreminador: we like it all on one line
[23:33] <XMLnewbi> so I manged to botch setting up Sftp so bad that putty crash's when i try to connect to the new user
[23:33] <daftykins> impressive!
[23:34] <XMLnewbi> so proablly delete user and try again?
[23:34] <daftykins> why not
[23:36] <Extreminador> going to check the kmail
[23:41] <sisterFister> honestly: there was a list I just updated all of the things on it
[23:42] <XMLnewbi> made a new user, still crashing when i try to load it, following this http://devtidbits.com/2011/06/29/implement-a-sftp-service-for-ubuntudebian-with-a-chrooted-isolated-file-directory/
[23:44] <windy_> .t
[23:46] <AcidRain2012> where is the mysql configuration file located in ubuntu?
[23:46] <daftykins> /etc/mysql/ perhaps
[23:46] <idlemich1el> http://serverfault.com/questions/532793/runit-monitoring-a-process-that-forks-many-processes
[23:47] <idlemich1el> would kill for an answer
[23:47] <idlemich1el> :)
[23:47] <idlemich1el> been scratching my head all day
[23:48] <daftykins> AcidRain2012: yeah /etc/mysql/my.cnf
[23:51] <AcidRain2012> daftykins, eh... i fixed my issue. was trying to set the minimum length for a string while MATCH() AGAINST to 2
[23:51] <AcidRain2012> just had to repair tables after updating
[23:51] <datakid> what minimum size hd is needed for a vanilla ubuntu install with desktop?
[23:52] <daftykins> datakid: probably over 6GB these days
[23:52] <datakid> daftykins: thankyou