skellat | Oops...I made it go kaboom again... LP Bug #1214691 | 03:33 |
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ubottu | Launchpad bug 1214691 in chromium-browser (Ubuntu) "chromium-browser crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1214691 | 03:33 |
knome | micahg, ping. | 08:45 |
cub | Hi ochosi , knome asked me to check with you with a non-shrinking icon for the power indicator. I suppose it's elementary Dark that is included in Ubuntu Studio, but not entirely sure. Are you available? | 09:01 |
ochosi | cub: hi, i'm semi-available atm, might have to go every second (awaiting important call) | 09:01 |
ochosi | but you can tell me bout it and to the worst i read and reply later | 09:01 |
cub | np. I changed the size of the upper panel on my netbook running Saucy from 24 to 16, but the icon in the tray for Power/battery stays the same and you can't see the whole icon. I also tried that same thing on my Ubuntu Studio 13.04 with the same result. Seems 24 is the only size for that icon. | 09:03 |
Noskcaj | ochosi, cub: i can confirm it affects xubuntu saucy | 09:04 |
Noskcaj | while running elementary darker | 09:04 |
ochosi | yeah, that's a semi-known issue | 09:04 |
ochosi | cub: there's no 16px version of those icons (there are quite a few of them) | 09:05 |
ochosi | as not many ppl use such a tiny panel and no-one complained so far, i never added those icons | 09:05 |
cub | hehe, I'm picky with my small screen. | 09:06 |
cub | but then I know. thanks. | 09:06 |
ochosi | btw, the same is true if you're using just elementary-xfce | 09:06 |
cub | yes I tried a few different just now. | 09:06 |
ochosi | theoretically when you use an earlier version, the icon would scale down | 09:06 |
ochosi | but it would then always be fuzzy unless panel-height=24 | 09:07 |
ochosi | i'm happy to accept patches, if anyone here wants to draw those icons :} | 09:09 |
cub | It's on my list to learn how to do icons and themes. Just very far down on the list. | 09:10 |
* Noskcaj needs something he can do for xubuntu one-handed. will look icon icon making | 09:13 | |
Noskcaj | *into icon | 09:13 |
Noskcaj | ochosi, Where is the branch so i can try making icons? | 09:16 |
ochosi | Noskcaj: https://github.com/shimmerproject/elementary-xfce | 09:17 |
ochosi | starter-tip: always align everything to the grid, otherwise we can't use the icon/s | 09:17 |
Noskcaj | That means nothing to me so far | 09:18 |
Noskcaj | ochosi, Any tools you recommend i use? | 09:22 |
knome | Noskcaj, TBE: if you are drawing a 16x16 icon, there is a virtual grid of 16x16. try not to cross those lines. | 09:22 |
knome | Noskcaj, inkscape. | 09:23 |
Noskcaj | knome, ty | 09:23 |
Noskcaj | Any how-to guides? i have no idea what i'm doing | 09:33 |
cub | Noskcaj, http://www.microugly.com/inkscape-quickguide/ | 09:37 |
Noskcaj | cub, ty | 09:37 |
cub | I haven't gone through myself but got the link when I asked the same question a couple of weeks ago. | 09:38 |
knome | Noskcaj, my #1 step in a guide would be to understand what you're doing first | 09:42 |
knome | Noskcaj, try looking for examples in other icons, see how they are aligned to the grid | 09:42 |
knome | Noskcaj, get a grasp of what the icon should look zoomed in inkscape with a grid visible | 09:43 |
knome | s/the/an/ | 09:44 |
knome | Noskcaj, then get an image in your head of what you want to make the new icon look like, what kind of elements it should have | 09:44 |
knome | Noskcaj, then worry about knowing how to use inkscape. | 09:44 |
smartboyhw | knome, you guys better get started on testing 12.04.3 | 09:46 |
smartboyhw | elfy, ^ | 09:46 |
knome | smartboyhw, yeah yeah, sure sure. ;) | 09:46 |
smartboyhw | LOL | 09:46 |
lderan | i can do some testing if need be :P | 09:47 |
smartboyhw | lderan, I think you are needed:P | 09:47 |
smartboyhw | (LOL) | 09:47 |
lderan | \o/ | 09:47 |
knome | lderan, hey | 10:01 |
knome | lderan, i was thinking the other day | 10:01 |
knome | lderan, do we need an extra "version-details" tag? | 10:01 |
knome | lderan, couldn't you just put the , inside "version-id"? | 10:01 |
lderan | easily enough to make it do that. will there be a case where the , is unneeded? | 10:02 |
knome | hmm, i see now that being a bit problematic regarding the spot where you'd put the ID itself | 10:03 |
knome | i mean if it's inside version-id, you'd have to put the ID either after or before the comma | 10:03 |
lderan | could have several classes for the variations | 10:03 |
knome | lderan, yeah, the case when you don't get the version number ;) | 10:03 |
knome | i'd just rather go with one | 10:03 |
knome | i'm thinking this fallback is overcomplicating things. | 10:04 |
knome | but that might be needed. | 10:04 |
knome | also thinking: instead of span replacements, couldn't we do text replacement? | 10:04 |
knome | eg, if you type $versionID in the text, it gets replaced | 10:05 |
knome | i know that's not as easy with JS as element replacement | 10:05 |
knome | what i'm wondering about might be just a non-problem :) | 10:05 |
lderan | regex to save the day :P | 10:05 |
knome | i mean, it's not something you poke every day | 10:05 |
knome | even less when that's automated | 10:05 |
lderan | indeed | 10:06 |
knome | i just poked the usage a bit | 10:08 |
lderan | poke away :P | 10:13 |
lderan | its very unlikely the slideshow will not get the version number, more likely the version name wont be passed. | 10:14 |
lderan | thats unlikely in of itself as well | 10:15 |
knome | :) | 10:15 |
knome | bbl | 10:37 |
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elfy | smartboyhw: please don't be telling me what to do. Thanks. | 12:06 |
olli | hi there | 16:39 |
elfy | hi olli | 16:42 |
olli | knome, skellat wanted to give you guys a quick heads up on the status of xmir | 16:42 |
olli | hey elfy | 16:42 |
knome | hey olli | 16:42 |
knome | i'm not actively around right now, but go ahead | 16:42 |
olli | skellat, knome we are targeting a call for testing for the remaining 2 big features (Multimonitor, composite bypass) for either Thu or Fri this week | 16:43 |
olli | I am saying "or Fri" in case there are issues in our internal preliminary testing | 16:43 |
olli | knome, ack, just wanted to share that with you guys in advance of tomorrows meeting | 16:44 |
elfy | olli: my biggest issue at the moment is that I still see what I did in xmir or not when I boot in and out | 16:44 |
elfy | got screenshots here | 16:44 |
olli | elfy, yeah, you are probably still on .8 or .9 | 16:44 |
olli | we had to stop landing to fix an ATI related issue | 16:44 |
elfy | http://imgur.com/cPAmyNC,irF8k6K,DCfJ9j0#0 | 16:45 |
olli | and hence the "switch" branch hasn't hit archive yet | 16:45 |
elfy | I updated/upgraded last night about 2000utc | 16:45 |
olli | we should have turned landing on as of this AM European (didrocks') time | 16:45 |
olli | let me check | 16:45 |
elfy | so you're saying that if the updates have gone through I won't see that ^^ anymore | 16:46 |
olli | that's my expectation | 16:46 |
* olli checks on reality | 16:46 | |
elfy | so will elfy ;) | 16:47 |
ochosi | elfy: did you just ping yourself? | 16:55 |
elfy | olli: have you checked? is it worth me booting the mir install to upgrade? | 16:55 |
elfy | ochosi: not that I noticed | 16:55 |
elfy | but it's been a 25 hour day | 16:55 |
ochosi | :) | 16:55 |
olli | elfy, still discussing with ppl in #ubuntu-mir | 16:55 |
elfy | full of 61 minute hours :p | 16:55 |
elfy | olli: okey doke | 16:56 |
elfy | olli: that bug that you're talking of in -mir isn't what I'm seeing | 17:02 |
elfy | it might have got talked about in one of the other bugs I read though - but I can't be sure which one now | 17:03 |
olli | elfy, arg, misread you | 17:06 |
olli | elfy, I'll have kgunn or tvoss come back to you | 17:06 |
elfy | ok - well they can do it with forestpiskie in -mir :) | 17:07 |
knome | erm, if it's a xubuntu issue, i'd appreciate if it happened here | 17:08 |
knome | just for the sake of logs and others being able to chime in | 17:08 |
elfy | well they can come here then | 17:09 |
knome | (and generally it's nice to see that the mir team is willing to travel around, there might be other things people want to ask them etc) | 17:09 |
knome | olli, so thanks for being here! :) | 17:09 |
elfy | olli: so - is it going to be worth me upgrading to see what it looks like now - I'm going to be away tomorrow and need to make my views known prior to our meeting | 17:23 |
olli | elfy, it should not regress, in a mtg atm with Kevin, can't look at it in the next 1h | 17:24 |
elfy | ok | 17:24 |
olli | so, if you can I'd say give it a spin | 17:24 |
elfy | ok - thanks | 17:26 |
elfy | olli: slightly different - still get corruption in whatever I boot after I've been in mir | 17:50 |
elfy | thanks for your help | 17:51 |
olli | elfy, weird | 17:51 |
elfy | yep | 17:51 |
olli | do you have a bug to track that issue? | 17:51 |
elfy | no - though last time I did a bug and had a screenshot I just got sarcasm | 17:52 |
elfy | which tends to put you off bothering | 17:52 |
elfy | but I'm happy enough to do it again - what package to report against? | 17:52 |
olli | elfy, sarcasm? i'd be interested to see the initial report | 18:05 |
elfy | olli: I booted it again - just doing a bug report - which package should I report against? | 18:05 |
olli | elfy, file it against unity-system-compositor and subscibe me | 18:05 |
elfy | and that wasn't necessarily a mir bug :) | 18:06 |
elfy | ok will do | 18:06 |
elfy | olli: what's you LP name? | 18:07 |
olli | ories | 18:08 |
elfy | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity-system-compositor/+bug/1215053 | 18:12 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 1215053 in unity-system-compositor (Ubuntu) "Corruption in login window following reboot" [Undecided,New] | 18:12 |
elfy | oh dear - found one that I didn't have yesterday now - in firefox in mir - cursor is now a rather large box when you've got an image to enlarge | 18:13 |
olli | elfy, off to another round of mtgs | 18:14 |
elfy | I'll screenshot that - attach it | 18:14 |
elfy | good luck - I'm getting close to putting my feet up | 18:14 |
knome | honestly speaking, mir still has quite a lot of bugs :/ | 18:14 |
ochosi | huge undertaking, little time > quite a lot of bugs | 18:15 |
lderan | i would like to see it running on my pc :( | 18:15 |
elfy | not having any luck capturing this oddity in a screeny | 18:15 |
ochosi | hah, even managed to make the lines sync :} | 18:15 |
knome | yeah, i'm not blaming anybody about it | 18:15 |
knome | ochosi, heh, yeah ;) | 18:15 |
elfy | http://i.imgur.com/sTkdYPe.jpg | 18:18 |
elfy | that's what I see in a large image in firefox | 18:18 |
elfy | brb | 18:18 |
lderan | knome, shall i start on the text replacing for the slideshow? | 18:49 |
knome | lderan, did dylan reply to your last commit? | 18:50 |
lderan | no replies yet | 18:50 |
lderan | shall check to make sur | 18:50 |
lderan | e | 18:50 |
knome | i'd wait for that | 18:50 |
knome | he's the go-to guy on the slideshows anyway, so want to make sure he's comfortable with it | 18:50 |
lderan | okay :) | 18:51 |
knome | (at least before poking others' slideshows) | 18:52 |
lderan | :P | 18:53 |
elfy | I'd forgotten how old 12.04 looks | 19:27 |
elfy | or different perhaps | 19:27 |
ochosi | elfy: artwork-wise? | 19:32 |
elfy | yea | 19:33 |
elfy | 13.10 looks just a whole different beast altogether | 19:34 |
Unit193 | Mailing list user had the same issue as elfy. | 19:35 |
elfy | that 12.04 looks different than 13.10 ? | 19:37 |
elfy | :) | 19:37 |
drc | well, greybird does look different on those two (to these eyes anyway) | 19:38 |
elfy | yea - just a long long time since I saw it | 19:38 |
ochosi | so what's the verdict then? | 19:40 |
ochosi | (old doesn't necessarily mean bad/worse) | 19:41 |
Unit193 | Greybird? I see it on live systems, but that's it. | 19:41 |
drc | guilty...35 years sentence | 19:41 |
elfy | ochosi: I much prefer what I see now | 19:42 |
ochosi | good to hear | 19:42 |
elfy | indeed :) | 19:43 |
ochosi | i'm trying to do incremental changes overall, but i know the switch away from the dark menus was harsh for many (at least in the beginning) | 19:43 |
elfy | well I'd not really have noticed that as I never used dark menus - tended to change that | 19:44 |
drc | ochosi: since the topic came up :)...why is the appmenu light while the rest of the theme is dark? | 19:44 |
ochosi | elfy: well all menus had a dark bg, now the bg is bright | 19:44 |
ochosi | drc: how/where is greybird dark (apart from the panel)? | 19:45 |
drc | the old greybird (say 12.04 era) it was closer to the panel color. | 19:45 |
ochosi | yeah, i know | 19:45 |
drc | well, I ment the panel...sorry | 19:45 |
ochosi | i tried that, making only the panel-related menus dark, but it just felt very inconsistent with the rest | 19:46 |
ochosi | so it turned out to be an all or nothing decision | 19:46 |
ochosi | another issue was icon-colors | 19:47 |
ochosi | with gtk3 this won't be as big a problem anymore | 19:48 |
ochosi | but until then you have to decide what colors they should have | 19:48 |
elfy | well - I didn't mean to start a discussion - was just a comment about how I prefer what we have now lol | 19:48 |
ochosi | hehe, artwork discussions have become rare anyways | 19:49 |
drc | elfy: sorry, it's just that I've never seen ochosi in the (any) channel when the subject of greybird came up, so I <had> to ask | 19:49 |
ochosi | people seem to be fed up with them or simply satisfied :) | 19:49 |
ochosi | drc: you can always ask me about these things if you want to | 19:50 |
elfy | a pair of :)'s | 19:50 |
drc | ochosi: I know, but it just normaly seems, well, silly to ask about such a small thing. | 19:52 |
Unit193 | Crap, I hate to bring it up before tonight, but I don't see anything majorly interesting in the latest two releases: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/saucy/+source/mir/+changelog | 20:04 |
lderan | yeah :( | 20:16 |
elfy | anyone able to do a 32bit test for 12.04.3 - I've done the others but got nothing to do an entire disk test | 20:18 |
elfy | http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/301/builds/51847/testcases/130/results | 20:18 |
elfy | if they can | 20:18 |
cub | Noskcaj, you disconnected earlier before I got to paste two more inkscape links: http://fullcirclemagazine.org/inkscape-special-edition-volume-one/ and http://fullcirclemagazine.org/inkscape-special-edition-volume-two/ | 20:21 |
Noskcaj | cub, thanks. i still don't understnd it | 20:23 |
Noskcaj | elfy, i'll have a look | 20:24 |
elfy | cheers Noskcaj | 20:24 |
Noskcaj | however, crappy laptop, internet and wrist will make things slow | 20:25 |
elfy | it's just the one - I've done the 64bit and 3/4 of the 32bit | 20:26 |
knome | elfy, feel free to mark the ISOs ready then :) | 20:53 |
elfy | forget I can do that ... | 20:53 |
knome | heh | 20:54 |
elfy | tick the 64 bit desktop and then mark as ready from the dropdown I assume | 20:54 |
elfy | knome: ^^ | 20:54 |
knome | elfy, yup | 20:55 |
elfy | ok - done that then :) | 20:55 |
knome | nice | 20:56 |
Noskcaj | elfy, What'sthe bug for the grey background boxes in precise? | 20:57 |
elfy | not sure - didn't see them | 20:57 |
elfy | didn't see anything untoward at all | 20:58 |
Noskcaj | i've got three already | 20:58 |
elfy | oh yea - waht bit of the testcase are they failing on ? | 20:59 |
Noskcaj | i'll have bugs soon. | 20:59 |
elfy | yea - but what bit of the testcase is failing? | 20:59 |
Noskcaj | The first bits | 21:00 |
elfy | http://testcases.qa.ubuntu.com/Install/DesktopWhole | 21:00 |
elfy | which first bit :p | 21:00 |
knome | it's not a fail if it doesn't stop you from finishing the testcase - the grey bg areas won't | 21:00 |
knome | those are bleh, but... we have 14.04 soon. | 21:01 |
elfy | as far as I'm concerned if it passes the testcase it's a pass | 21:02 |
elfy | Noskcaj10: did you catch our last comments? | 21:10 |
Noskcaj10 | no | 21:10 |
elfy | <knome> it's not a fail if it doesn't stop you from finishing the testcase - the grey bg areas won't | 21:11 |
elfy | <knome> those are bleh, but... we have 14.04 soon. | 21:11 |
elfy | <elfy> as far as I'm concerned if it passes the testcase it's a pass | 21:11 |
elfy | I'm off up the wooden hill now anyway - thanks for doing that one | 21:12 |
knome | thanks elfy and have fun | 21:12 |
elfy | I'll do the 32bit alternate ones tomorrow | 21:13 |
knome | nice | 21:14 |
knome | i'll see if i can do one or two today or tomorrow | 21:14 |
elfy | if you can manage the entire disk ones that'd help me | 21:14 |
elfy | night | 21:14 |
knome | nighty1 | 21:14 |
knome | ! too | 21:14 |
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Unit193 | mhall119: Why hello! :P | 23:49 |
mhall119 | hi Unit193 | 23:50 |
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