[01:01] <infinity> sforshee: Your wireless drivers suck.
[01:04] <infinity> sforshee: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6012393/
[01:04] <infinity> sforshee: ^-- The result of trying to turn on wireless via my hardware rfkill.  Rebooting "fixed" it.
[01:19] <sforshee> infinity: the log plainly says it's a hardware error, so I'm blameless :-P
[01:19] <infinity> sforshee: Uh huh.  If you say so, Freshest.
[01:22] <sforshee> infinity: which kernel is that?
[01:22] <infinity> sforshee: 3.11.0-3.7
[01:24] <infinity> sforshee: I'm not really in a convenient place to debug/diagnose right now, but it seems that booting with wireless enabled works, resuming with it disabled, then enabling it causes the above.  Untested if booting disabled and enabling does the same, but probably.
[01:32] <sforshee> infinity: okay, I'll try to reproduce later. I think I only have one machine with a hard rfkill switch, and it happens to be the machine I'm using to do stuff right now.
[01:33] <infinity> sforshee: Bonus points if it happens to be an IvyBridge thinkpad (x220, t420, etc)
[01:33] <infinity> s/Ivy/Sandy/
[01:33] <mwhudson> i have an x220 here
[01:33] <mwhudson> otoh, not saucy
[01:34] <sforshee> infinity: it's a thinkpad, but not sandybridge. Arrendale.
[01:35] <infinity> sforshee: Alright, when I'm not squirting blood into a baggie at the Red Cross, I'll see if I can come up with more useful debugging info.  But if you can reproduce, great.
[02:07]  * Sarvatt was expecting brcmsmac fail there since sforshee got pinged, but instead an actual hardware error with "magic" intel firmware..
[02:13] <Sarvatt> hrm can't reproduce it on an x1 carbon with 6205 wifi, guess you need an old 6200 or 6300 using firmware version: 9.221.4.1 build 25532
[02:16] <infinity> Sarvatt: I just blame sforshee for *all* my wireless issues.  He did this to himself at one point by being silly enough to actually solicit me for wireless bugs.
[02:16] <Sarvatt> sforshee: your ilk might hit it, most snb shipped with 6205...
[02:17] <Sarvatt> infinity: is that 6300?
[02:17] <infinity> 03:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation Centrino Ultimate-N 6300 (rev 3e)
[02:17] <infinity> (Yes)
[02:17] <Sarvatt> yeah, they went to a new gen of wifi cards for 6200 series for snb but kept older 6300 around
[02:18] <Sarvatt> but if he has an ilk with 6200 it probably uses the same firmware as that
[02:18] <Sarvatt> obviously a firmware bug, not anything he can fix though :P just need to report it to intel
[02:20] <infinity> I'm less convinced on the "obviously a firmware bug" unless it was recently revved.
[02:20] <infinity> But I can bisect that later too.
[02:21] <Sarvatt> not sure if that was, but some intel wifi firmware did get revved in 3.11, the ones shipping in haswell systems can't use firmware from 3.10 on 3.11 because the api changed
[02:23] <Sarvatt> https://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/kernel/git/iwlwifi/iwlwifi-next.git/commit/?id=a2d0909a687b4d250cc2b7481072e361678745ba just 7260/3160, nevermind
[02:30] <Sarvatt> going to assume they broke old cards to make the new ones work right, thats how intel works :) see 4965 and older intel wifi cards having to disable 802.11n after 2.6.35 kernels aka https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-firmware/+bug/630748
[02:30] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 630748 in module-init-tools (Ubuntu Natty) "iwlagn degrades quickly during normal wifi session" [High,Fix released]
[06:57]  * smb waits for coffee to kick in
[07:01]  * amitk thinks about how effective a coffee bath might be...
[07:03] <smb> Probably depends on how hot the coffee is... but then effective in doing what? :)
[07:04] <amitk> smb: subcutaneous nicotine absorption
[07:07] <smb> amitk, Could it be that you listen to too many urban legends? :)
[07:08] <amitk> :)
[10:52] <rbasak> Do we have an lpae -generic kernel for ARM yet?
[10:52] <rbasak> I'm not sure what naming scheme we settled on in the end. Was it -generic-nonlpae and -generic, or -generic-lpae and -generic?
[12:30]  * henrix -> lunch
[13:48] <rtg> kamal, I've assigned you bug #1215411
[13:48] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 1215411 in linux (Ubuntu Saucy) "libcpupower.so is not installed from linux-tools (saucy)" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1215411
[14:51] <rtg> jsalisbury, bug #1215051 and bug #1215269 appear to be straightforward Raring regressions. Have you seen them yet this morning ?
[14:51] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 1215051 in linux (Ubuntu) "KVM/QEMU guest bridged network loss on kernels 3.8.0-27, and 29" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1215051
[14:51] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 1215269 in linux (Ubuntu) "Unable to boot after kenel update (3.8.0-29)." [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1215269
[14:54] <jsalisbury> rtg, I'll look at them now
[15:02] <kamal> rtg, ok, but I'm not sure how we'll address the libcpupower.so problem ...  I omitted the libcpupower.so symlink on purpose:  I think that including it would break the ability to have multiple simultaneous  linux-tools-3.8.0-{nn} packages installed
[15:02] <kamal> rtg, I'll discuss with apw
[15:03] <kamal> rtg, the two raring regressions jsalisbury is looking scare me too
[15:03] <kamal> *looking at
[15:03] <bjf> ogasawara, is .3 going to be released today?
[15:03] <rtg> kamal, I didn't really understand what he was complaining about in the bug, which is why I dumped it in your lap
[15:04] <ogasawara> bjf: I'd assume so, infinity I think it in charge of pulling the trigger
[15:04] <kamal> rtg, ok, I _do_ understand it  :-)   I just don't know how I'll fix it.   my lap is a good place for the bug.
[15:04] <ogasawara> bjf:  I have not heard officially that i's not
[15:06] <jsalisbury> kamal, rtg, 1215051 appears to have been introduced in 3.8.0-27, but 1215269 seems to have been introduced in 3.8.28 or 29.  I'll bisect both of them.
[15:06] <kamal> jsalisbury, excellent, thanks man.
[15:07] <jsalisbury> kamal, np
[15:09] <xnox> So on precise, xubuntu & kubuntu had miss-matched and out of date kernels. I've bumped the seeds, can anyone tell me what else needs to happen such that next cd respin gets matching new kernel & udebs & debs?
[15:09] <xnox> infinity: apw` ^
[15:38] <federico_> Hi. since kernel 3.8.0-29.42 I'm experiencing total freezes at random times. Once or twice a day. No issues with previous kernels. I had freezes in two different machines.
[15:41] <rtg> federico_, kamal and jsalisbury are currently pursuing regressions in 3.8 stable. you should start a new bug using 'ubuntu-bug linux'
[15:43] <federico_> rtg: I booted 3.8.0-27 now, should I reboot on the other version to file the bug?
[15:43] <rtg> federico_, yeah, if it will stay up long enough
[16:13] <henrix> jsalisbury: bug #1214852 may actually be a dup of bug #1215155 as the user refers to an external hd (i'm assuming usb)
[16:13] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 1214852 in linux (Ubuntu) "encrypted drive can't boot" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1214852
[16:13] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 1215155 in linux (Ubuntu) "regression in linux-image-3.8.0-29-generic: ipod shuffle 2g does not mount any more" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1215155
[16:14] <henrix> jsalisbury: the installation kernel is -19, which doesn't contain the issue; then, after the upgrade, it doesn't boot. so... it *could* be the same bug
[16:15] <jsalisbury> henrix, ack
[16:15] <jsalisbury> henrix, is the fix you have for 1215155 in the 30.43 kernel?
[16:16] <jsalisbury> henrix, doh, nevermind, I just read your email 
[16:16] <henrix> jsalisbury: no, it is not. but i have a test kernel (let me get you the link)
[16:16] <henrix> jsalisbury: :)
[16:16] <henrix> jsalisbury: http://people.canonical.com/~henrix/lp1215155/
[16:17] <henrix> jsalisbury: ^^ this is the test kernel containing the fix
[16:17] <jsalisbury> henrix, great.  I'll ask the bug reporter in 1214852 to test your kernel before all the other testing requests
[16:17] <henrix> jsalisbury: thanks
[17:06] <infinity> xnox: What do you mean by "you bumped the seeds"?
[17:06] <infinity> xnox: I see no seed changes and, in fact, they should have been correct for precise.
[17:07] <infinity> xnox: Oh, ffs.  They use their own installer seed.  I missed that. :/
[17:07] <xnox> that.
[17:08] <infinity> What a mess.  We need to fix that.
[17:08] <xnox> infinity: one of them is using pae, the other one generic. and neither use enablement kernels.
[17:08] <infinity> xnox: Thanks for cleaning that up.
[17:08] <xnox> infinity: no problem. it was guess work for me. I kind of new it was done before, and I went by "bzr log -p"
[17:30]  * rtg -> lunch
[20:05]  * rtg -> EOD
[21:45] <xtofury> ok I finally got my 8" touchscreen working :)  thanks to whomever posted that apk of tscalibrate that actually works proper.
[21:46] <xtofury>  there is one issue that's popped up.  There are no FTDI drivers in makemenu :(
[21:46] <xtofury> anybody deal with this one yet?
[21:47] <xtofury> err menuconfig meant