[02:58] anyone have "practical electronics ability"? http://vacancies.vuw.ac.nz/positiondetail.asp?p=6653 [02:59] heh .. that seems to be a bit more than "practical electronics ability" [03:13] ibeardslee: true, but "practical electronics ability" is why i'm not applying ... === thumper is now known as thumper-afk === thumper-afk is now known as thumper [17:50] morning [19:33] morning [19:49] morena koutou [19:51] i did a package upgrade on my 10.04 machine, and now the wifi doesn't work - in network manager it says "device not ready" [19:51] has there been a change in the firmware blobs which get installed in the recent past? [19:51] ifdown --all [19:51] ifup --all [19:52] that's what i have to do sometimes [19:52] hmm, never had to do that before [19:52] it's a shotgun approach, but it works for me [19:52] and it's real simple and can't break anything else [19:52] well, except open network connections [19:53] ifconfig shows eth1 isn't configured, so I have my doubts, but I guess it's worth a try [19:54] doesn't help [19:54] didn't even take down eth0 for some reason, only loopback [20:27] morning [20:27] http://getprsm.com/ [20:29] ha, love it [20:30] morning [20:35] well, I managed to prod it into existing with: sudo ifconfig eth2 up [20:35] network manager doesn't seem to know about it though [20:36] but I can do things like "sudo iwlist eth2 scan" and get plausible results [20:36] you might need to restart network manager [20:36] especially if the package update forced a module reload in a way NM wasn't expecting [20:38] yeah, that seems to have helped [20:38] though it seems to think i have "eth0" and "Ethernet" now [21:58] morning === thumper is now known as thumper-afk