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phillwNoskcaj: ping01:53
phillwxnox: knome "Istimsak Abdulbasir Grabbing the i386 iso now" It's nice to ask :)02:06
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pittiGood morning04:01
elfyphillw: testcase for chromium merged and added to testcases for you05:29
elfyknome: not getting far with the alternate tests for 12.04.3 -> http://imagebin.org/26836605:36
Noskcajphillw, PONG05:51
DanChapmanGood morning all07:19
xnoxphillw: ?08:32
slickymastergood morning, all09:18
knomeelfy, hmpf.09:46
slickymasterknome: ping10:27
slickymasterDanChapman: good morning, can you spare a minute?10:32
DanChapmanslickymaster: Morning, yeah sure10:33
slickymasterDanChapman: are you familiar with xfce4-mixer GUI?10:33
knomeslickymaster, pong10:35
DanChapmanslickymaster: ive used it a few times10:35
slickymasterDanChapman, knome, my question is: what is the name of the icon that look like a chain, under the channels10:36
slickymasterknome: sorry knome, the question regards xfce4-mixer10:37
knomei don't have that installed, just a sec :P10:37
slickymasterknome, I'm making the xfce4-mixer manual test10:37
knomeslickymaster, the icon is used to lock/link the two channels' levels10:38
slickymasterknome: yes, that one10:38
knomeslickymaster, if you press it, it's disabled, and then you can control the left/right channel separately10:38
slickymasterknome, how should I call it?10:38
knomewell the hover says "lock channels ..."10:39
slickymasterknome: what I mean is "Point you mouse cursor over the ? icon10:39
knome"Lock channels" :)10:39
slickymasterknome: I was convinced that it would have a single name10:40
knomethere is a technical icon name for that, but it's probably not very decriptive for users10:40
knomeor the "Lock" icon10:40
slickymasterknome, ok, I'll follow your suggestion. thanks10:40
knomethere isn't many other icons, users will find out when they hover over that10:40
knome:)10:40
knomenp10:40
slickymasterthanks also DanChapman10:41
smartboyhwknome, you do have somebody who can test alternates for 12.04.3 right? (Just asking, no inteference in it)11:08
knomesmartboyhw, if you'd follow #xubuntu-devel or #ubuntu-release, you'd know we have a problem with them.12:00
smartboyhwknome, is it about encryption?>12:12
knomesmartboyhw, no12:13
smartboyhwknome, oh12:13
smartboyhwWe have LVM encrpytion problems here12:13
smartboyhwknome, I found your problem and yes, we have that problem too.12:18
smartboyhwOK, all fail12:18
smartboyhwknome, is there a bug report for this?12:19
smartboyhwelfy, ^12:20
smartboyhwAssuming you are meaning http://imagebin.org/26836612:22
knomethat's what i meant, and no, i don't know if there is a bug. did you check if something is linked in the alternate tests for xubuntu in the iso tracker?12:22
smartboyhwknome, the problem is that I saw no results reported for Xubuntu12:22
smartboyhwalternate12:22
smartboyhwExcept one by... phillw !? (Which is still running)12:24
phillwsmartboyhw: it has just started... it was a late night!12:24
smartboyhwphillw, mind you: There will be the problem with the above picture12:24
smartboyhwhttp://imagebin.org/26836612:24
smartboyhwknome, so you guys won't release the image with the above *bug* or?12:25
phillwsmartboyhw: I've chosen to ignore that error :)12:26
smartboyhwphillw, me too12:27
smartboyhwThat might have to go to the release notes though...12:27
phillwif it installs it is a grey bug, worthy of note in the release notes. if it borks the install. then it is a big red bug!12:27
smartboyhwAnyways, I have to fail encrpytion here12:27
smartboyhwphillw, encrpytion test is NOT working at all12:27
smartboyhwfor Kubuntu alternates at least12:27
phillwI'm only on the 1st test... guided.. entire.12:28
smartboyhwphillw, yeah, wait till you get to that:P12:28
phillwnext up will be side by side, then encrypted... that is my order of testing in lubuntu :D12:28
smartboyhwphillw, heh12:28
phillwas to the 4th one, I'll have to read the testcase!12:29
smartboyhwphillw, what fourth?12:31
phillwrun once :)12:32
smartboyhwphillw, :P12:33
smartboyhwHa, manual partiitoning12:33
phillwI do usually make my self available for these tests, rather than the last minute, but was at job interview yesterday and then had 3 trains to catch to get home... was not in 'testing' mode last night!12:35
smartboyhwphillw, job interview? Woot12:36
phillwyup, should know today if I got the job.12:37
smartboyhwphillw, what is it?12:38
smartboyhw:P12:38
phillwlaptop repair engineer.12:41
smartboyhwphillw, sure, I will send you my laptop and give me a i7:P12:41
phillwas that side of my abilities is totally self taught, I'm not sure if I passed the 2 hour bench-test yesterday for diagnosing a fault, then stripping down and rebuilding a laptop (I for got to re-connect the video lead to the mother board, which I'm really angry at myself over!).12:43
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jodhpitti/jibel: until bug 1208455 is resolved (and we don't know when that might be), would it be possible for the autopkgtest env create 2 vms for a test (maybe if a new magic Restrictions: is specified in debian/tests/control)?13:11
ubot5bug 1208455 in linux (Ubuntu Saucy) "general protection fault running apt-get inside double nested kvm VM" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/120845513:11
jodhpitti/jibel: the vms would be identical but one would be "primary" (to run the dep8 tests in) and one "secondary" (for whatever purposes the dep8 tests wish).13:11
elfysmartboyhw: not as far as I know - not had time to look either13:22
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pittijodh: I guess in principle yes, but it requires some careful state keeping of the second VM, exchanging of ssh keys, and some kind of marker in the control file that you want a second one13:25
smartboyhwelfy, OK.13:26
pittijodh: (as we don't always want to start two)13:26
jodhpitti: understood. I'm doing one final canonistack test but if that fails, I don't realistically see a way forward using nested kvm atm.13:26
pittijodh: I wouldn't bet on canonistack for that indeed; much more robust to run them locally or in the dc13:27
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jodhpitti: I don't have dc access and can't run locally. I'll check the porters, but they don't tend to be particularly powerful systems. If you or anyone else is offering to test my tests, the branch is lp:~jamesodhunt/ubuntu/saucy/upstart/dep-8 :)13:32
pittijodh: sure, I'll give them a whirl now13:33
jodhpitti: awesome, thanks!13:33
pittijodh: which of your ssh keys do you use?13:37
pittijodh: I can give you ssh to the outside (run-adt-test) VM, from there you can poke around13:37
pittijodh: I have started run-adt-test -kS file://`pwd` already, it's currently building13:38
jodhpitti: thanks!13:38
phillwsmartboyhw: have you raised a bug for http://imagebin.org/268366 ?13:44
smartboyhwphillw, I forgotten, please raise one for me.13:45
SergioMenesesphillw, smartboyhw \o13:57
smartboyhwSergioMeneses, hey13:57
phillwsmartboyhw: bug 1215453 raised13:58
ubot5bug 1215453 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "No Kernel Modules were found" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/121545313:58
smartboyhwphillw, thanks13:58
smartboyhwphillw, can you refer the bug to the Xubuntu guys also?14:01
xnoxphillw: that bug lacks details =) commented.14:02
smartboyhwphillw, it's debian-installer BTW14:03
smartboyhwxnox, updated the bug with the correct screenshot link and d-i14:05
smartboyhwhttp://imagebin.org/268366 it is14:05
phillwsmartboyhw: thanks! My bad... forgot I was using alternate!14:08
smartboyhwphillw, LOL14:08
phillwI'll recreate the bug once this 2nd test is installed so the correct logs are attached.14:11
smartboyhwphillw, no need to "recreate"14:11
smartboyhwJust put it in.14:11
smartboyhwI mean, the log.14:11
smartboyhwknome, please merge https://code.launchpad.net/~xnox/ubuntu-seeds/fix-kernels-precise-xubuntu/+merge/181586 for Xubuntu so alternates can get refreshed15:05
smartboyhw*respun15:06
knomesmartboyhw, i can't upload to ~xubuntu-dev15:06
smartboyhwknome, I thought you can merge the code...15:06
smartboyhw:O15:07
smartboyhwOops15:07
knomeno, anybody to do that needs to have upload rights to15:07
knome... ~xubuntu-dev15:07
smartboyhwknome, no need for upload rights.15:07
smartboyhwJust a ~xubuntu-dev15:07
knomesmartboyhw, upload rights to that branch.15:07
smartboyhwknome, ....15:07
knomesmartboyhw, they are also upload rights.15:07
knomesmartboyhw, i understand the difference, but i don't have either.15:08
smartboyhwknome, eh, that I would call "commit rights"... Can you find someone (a.s.a.p. is better?)15:08
knomesmartboyhw, people who have the rights are subscribed.15:08
smartboyhwknome, that's for 12.04.3 release, so...15:08
smartboyhwHopefully they can respond in time15:09
knomei know.15:09
knomei hope they can as well15:09
knomebut there's next to nothing i can do to speed up that process15:09
smartboyhwknome, I think I found somebody who can:P15:11
smartboyhwSince ~xubuntu-dev contains ~ubuntu-core-dev15:11
knomesure.15:11
knomefeel free to ask them15:12
knomeand thanks15:12
smartboyhwknome, actually, Riddell volunteered for that, thank him:)15:12
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phillwelfy: I' grabbing the i386 alternate now, it will take ~ 3 hours :(19:09
elfyI'm doing the first test now19:16
elfytaking about ~20 minutes to install19:16
elfythanks for looking at the 64bit ones19:17
melodiehi19:21
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phillwelfy: I've stopped the download, going to update my 13.10 system :)19:38
elfylol19:39
elfyI suspect I'll get 2 of the 32bit ones done today19:40
phillwhe he. only 245 packages to update on my 13.10 system :P20:08
elfylol20:09
elfyyou want me to post them to you on a cd :D20:09
phillwI'll accept the 1 hour download.... I really should update more often!20:10
elfyheh20:12
elfyeven when it was slow here I rarely waited long - an iso was ~20minutes20:13
phillwI live a long way from the exchange in a lovely village. I'd rather the village than blisteringly fast b/band :)20:15
elfyyep20:15
phillwif I want fast, I ssh into my server on its 100 Mb/s backbone.20:15
phillwas piglet has things like virt-manager, virtual-box along with bluefish hplib etc. etc. there is always more to update :)20:18
elfyhalf way through the encrypted install test20:18
elfythat'll do for today once it's done20:18
phillwokies, I'll check out what still needs testing a bit later. I can pull iso's in over night if needed.20:19
elfyas far as I'm concerned - there will be 2 32 bit tests for looking at - I'll try and spend some time on other tests over the weekend - but I've got a whole bunch of r/l to sort and some xubuntu stuff I want to look at20:20
phillwyeah, 13.04.4 doesn't look like it will be released today. These things happen.....20:21
elfy13.04.4?20:22
phillwI'll pull in the 32bit alt of xubuntu and kubuntu for overnight install. .... he he... 12.04.3 :P20:23
slickymastergood night, all21:37
knomehey slickymaster.21:37
slickymasterknome, :)21:37
slickymasterknome, xfce4-mixer testcase is ready for merge, just proposed it21:38
knomeslickymaster, will look at that tomorrow21:38
slickymasterknome, np, :)21:39
slickymasterknome, tomorrow is my first vacation day21:39
knomecongrats!21:39
knomeslickymaster, did you go surfing or sth?21:40
slickymasterknome, yes :) :) before traveling with the family to the south of spain on the 29th21:41
slickymasterknome, and my kid will join me :)21:41
knomenice21:41
knomehow old, if i may ask?21:41
slickymasterknome, eight, last June21:42
knomemhm21:42
knomenice age21:42
knome(even though i don't have kids myself, but that is)21:42
slickymasteryes, is not a teenager, yet21:42
slickymasterknome, but I'll be around at least until the 29th21:43
knome:)21:43
knomeso vacation with internet, eh? ;)21:43
slickymasterknome, I'm trying to get Xubuntu Documentation translated as much as I can21:43
slickymasterknome,  :) yes, in the first part of it21:44
slickymasterknome, I've also have some stuff to edited for the upcoming Ubuntu Manual21:44
slickymasterknome, and I'm finally trying to make my wiki page up21:45
knome:)21:45
GuidoPallemansmsg NickServ identify Hotmail1221:49
knomeGuidoPallemans, change your password.21:49
GuidoPallemanscrap, gotta change ma password21:50
slickymaster:)21:50
GuidoPallemanshappened numerous times21:50
knomeno, not your mums.21:50
thomiheh21:50
thomiGuidoPallemans: Hotmail1321:50
thomi;)21:50
GuidoPallemansk21:52
slickymasterknome, no need to look at it tomorrow, elfy has merge it just now21:54
knomeaha21:54
knomegood work then21:54
knomehe went to bed 20 mins ago, so he must've done that while asleep21:55
slickymasterhe's always nearby, even when we don't see or sense him21:55
slickymasterhttps://code.launchpad.net/~slickymaster/ubuntu-manual-tests/xfce4-mixer21:56
phillwknome: like unit193, elfy is actually a bot :P22:04
knomethe whole xubuntu team are bots.22:04
slickymasterknome, LOL22:04
phillwI still chuckle at unit193 being accused of that on the lubuntu support channel :D22:04
knomesame for me on #xubuntu22:09
knomeanyway, nighty!22:09
slickymasterknome, night22:10
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slickymasterphillw, good night22:24
phillwslickymaster: sweet dreams!22:24
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