[01:53] <phillw> Noskcaj: ping
[02:06] <phillw> xnox: knome "Istimsak Abdulbasir Grabbing the i386 iso now" It's nice to ask :)
[04:01] <pitti> Good morning
[05:29] <elfy> phillw: testcase for chromium merged and added to testcases for you
[05:36] <elfy> knome: not getting far with the alternate tests for 12.04.3 -> http://imagebin.org/268366
[05:51] <Noskcaj> phillw, PONG
[07:19] <DanChapman> Good morning all
[08:32] <xnox> phillw: ?
[09:18] <slickymaster> good morning, all
[09:46] <knome> elfy, hmpf.
[10:27] <slickymaster> knome: ping
[10:32] <slickymaster> DanChapman: good morning, can you spare a minute?
[10:33] <DanChapman> slickymaster: Morning, yeah sure
[10:33] <slickymaster> DanChapman: are you familiar with xfce4-mixer GUI?
[10:35] <knome> slickymaster, pong
[10:35] <DanChapman> slickymaster: ive used it a few times
[10:36] <slickymaster> DanChapman, knome, my question is: what is the name of the icon that look like a chain, under the channels
[10:37] <slickymaster> knome: sorry knome, the question regards xfce4-mixer
[10:37] <knome> i don't have that installed, just a sec :P
[10:37] <slickymaster> knome, I'm making the xfce4-mixer manual test
[10:38] <knome> slickymaster, the icon is used to lock/link the two channels' levels
[10:38] <slickymaster> knome: yes, that one
[10:38] <knome> slickymaster, if you press it, it's disabled, and then you can control the left/right channel separately
[10:38] <slickymaster> knome, how should I call it?
[10:39] <knome> well the hover says "lock channels ..."
[10:39] <slickymaster> knome: what I mean is "Point you mouse cursor over the ? icon
[10:39] <knome> "Lock channels" :)
[10:40] <slickymaster> knome: I was convinced that it would have a single name
[10:40] <knome> there is a technical icon name for that, but it's probably not very decriptive for users
[10:40] <knome> or the "Lock" icon
[10:40] <slickymaster> knome, ok, I'll follow your suggestion. thanks
[10:40] <knome> there isn't many other icons, users will find out when they hover over that
[10:40] <knome> :)
[10:40] <knome> np
[10:41] <slickymaster> thanks also DanChapman
[11:08] <smartboyhw> knome, you do have somebody who can test alternates for 12.04.3 right? (Just asking, no inteference in it)
[12:00] <knome> smartboyhw, if you'd follow #xubuntu-devel or #ubuntu-release, you'd know we have a problem with them.
[12:12] <smartboyhw> knome, is it about encryption?>
[12:13] <knome> smartboyhw, no
[12:13] <smartboyhw> knome, oh
[12:13] <smartboyhw> We have LVM encrpytion problems here
[12:18] <smartboyhw> knome, I found your problem and yes, we have that problem too.
[12:18] <smartboyhw> OK, all fail
[12:19] <smartboyhw> knome, is there a bug report for this?
[12:20] <smartboyhw> elfy, ^
[12:22] <smartboyhw> Assuming you are meaning http://imagebin.org/268366
[12:22] <knome> that's what i meant, and no, i don't know if there is a bug. did you check if something is linked in the alternate tests for xubuntu in the iso tracker?
[12:22] <smartboyhw> knome, the problem is that I saw no results reported for Xubuntu
[12:22] <smartboyhw> alternate
[12:24] <smartboyhw> Except one by... phillw !? (Which is still running)
[12:24] <phillw> smartboyhw: it has just started... it was a late night!
[12:24] <smartboyhw> phillw, mind you: There will be the problem with the above picture
[12:24] <smartboyhw> http://imagebin.org/268366
[12:25] <smartboyhw> knome, so you guys won't release the image with the above *bug* or?
[12:26] <phillw> smartboyhw: I've chosen to ignore that error :)
[12:27] <smartboyhw> phillw, me too
[12:27] <smartboyhw> That might have to go to the release notes though...
[12:27] <phillw> if it installs it is a grey bug, worthy of note in the release notes. if it borks the install. then it is a big red bug!
[12:27] <smartboyhw> Anyways, I have to fail encrpytion here
[12:27] <smartboyhw> phillw, encrpytion test is NOT working at all
[12:27] <smartboyhw> for Kubuntu alternates at least
[12:28] <phillw> I'm only on the 1st test... guided.. entire.
[12:28] <smartboyhw> phillw, yeah, wait till you get to that:P
[12:28] <phillw> next up will be side by side, then encrypted... that is my order of testing in lubuntu :D
[12:28] <smartboyhw> phillw, heh
[12:29] <phillw> as to the 4th one, I'll have to read the testcase!
[12:31] <smartboyhw> phillw, what fourth?
[12:32] <phillw> run once :)
[12:33] <smartboyhw> phillw, :P
[12:33] <smartboyhw> Ha, manual partiitoning
[12:35] <phillw> I do usually make my self available for these tests, rather than the last minute, but was at job interview yesterday and then had 3 trains to catch to get home... was not in 'testing' mode last night!
[12:36] <smartboyhw> phillw, job interview? Woot
[12:37] <phillw> yup, should know today if I got the job.
[12:38] <smartboyhw> phillw, what is it?
[12:38] <smartboyhw> :P
[12:41] <phillw> laptop repair engineer.
[12:41] <smartboyhw> phillw, sure, I will send you my laptop and give me a i7:P
[12:43] <phillw> as that side of my abilities is totally self taught, I'm not sure if I passed the 2 hour bench-test yesterday for diagnosing a fault, then stripping down and rebuilding a laptop (I for got to re-connect the video lead to the mother board, which I'm really angry at myself over!).
[13:11] <jodh> pitti/jibel: until bug 1208455 is resolved (and we don't know when that might be), would it be possible for the autopkgtest env create 2 vms for a test (maybe if a new magic Restrictions: is specified in debian/tests/control)?
[13:11] <jodh> pitti/jibel: the vms would be identical but one would be "primary" (to run the dep8 tests in) and one "secondary" (for whatever purposes the dep8 tests wish).
[13:22] <elfy> smartboyhw: not as far as I know - not had time to look either
[13:25] <pitti> jodh: I guess in principle yes, but it requires some careful state keeping of the second VM, exchanging of ssh keys, and some kind of marker in the control file that you want a second one
[13:26] <smartboyhw> elfy, OK.
[13:26] <pitti> jodh: (as we don't always want to start two)
[13:26] <jodh> pitti: understood. I'm doing one final canonistack test but if that fails, I don't realistically see a way forward using nested kvm atm.
[13:27] <pitti> jodh: I wouldn't bet on canonistack for that indeed; much more robust to run them locally or in the dc
[13:32] <jodh> pitti: I don't have dc access and can't run locally. I'll check the porters, but they don't tend to be particularly powerful systems. If you or anyone else is offering to test my tests, the branch is lp:~jamesodhunt/ubuntu/saucy/upstart/dep-8 :)
[13:33] <pitti> jodh: sure, I'll give them a whirl now
[13:33] <jodh> pitti: awesome, thanks!
[13:37] <pitti> jodh: which of your ssh keys do you use?
[13:37] <pitti> jodh: I can give you ssh to the outside (run-adt-test) VM, from there you can poke around
[13:38] <pitti> jodh: I have started run-adt-test -kS file://`pwd` already, it's currently building
[13:38] <jodh> pitti: thanks!
[13:44] <phillw> smartboyhw: have you raised a bug for http://imagebin.org/268366 ?
[13:45] <smartboyhw> phillw, I forgotten, please raise one for me.
[13:57] <SergioMeneses> phillw, smartboyhw \o
[13:57] <smartboyhw> SergioMeneses, hey
[13:58] <phillw> smartboyhw: bug 1215453 raised
[13:58] <smartboyhw> phillw, thanks
[14:01] <smartboyhw> phillw, can you refer the bug to the Xubuntu guys also?
[14:02] <xnox> phillw: that bug lacks details =) commented.
[14:03] <smartboyhw> phillw, it's debian-installer BTW
[14:05] <smartboyhw> xnox, updated the bug with the correct screenshot link and d-i
[14:05] <smartboyhw> http://imagebin.org/268366 it is
[14:08] <phillw> smartboyhw: thanks! My bad... forgot I was using alternate!
[14:08] <smartboyhw> phillw, LOL
[14:11] <phillw> I'll recreate the bug once this 2nd test is installed so the correct logs are attached.
[14:11] <smartboyhw> phillw, no need to "recreate"
[14:11] <smartboyhw> Just put it in.
[14:11] <smartboyhw> I mean, the log.
[15:05] <smartboyhw> knome, please merge https://code.launchpad.net/~xnox/ubuntu-seeds/fix-kernels-precise-xubuntu/+merge/181586 for Xubuntu so alternates can get refreshed
[15:06] <smartboyhw> *respun
[15:06] <knome> smartboyhw, i can't upload to ~xubuntu-dev
[15:06] <smartboyhw> knome, I thought you can merge the code...
[15:07] <smartboyhw> :O
[15:07] <smartboyhw> Oops
[15:07] <knome> no, anybody to do that needs to have upload rights to
[15:07] <knome> ... ~xubuntu-dev
[15:07] <smartboyhw> knome, no need for upload rights.
[15:07] <smartboyhw> Just a ~xubuntu-dev
[15:07] <knome> smartboyhw, upload rights to that branch.
[15:07] <smartboyhw> knome, ....
[15:07] <knome> smartboyhw, they are also upload rights.
[15:08] <knome> smartboyhw, i understand the difference, but i don't have either.
[15:08] <smartboyhw> knome, eh, that I would call "commit rights"... Can you find someone (a.s.a.p. is better?)
[15:08] <knome> smartboyhw, people who have the rights are subscribed.
[15:08] <smartboyhw> knome, that's for 12.04.3 release, so...
[15:09] <smartboyhw> Hopefully they can respond in time
[15:09] <knome> i know.
[15:09] <knome> i hope they can as well
[15:09] <knome> but there's next to nothing i can do to speed up that process
[15:11] <smartboyhw> knome, I think I found somebody who can:P
[15:11] <smartboyhw> Since ~xubuntu-dev contains ~ubuntu-core-dev
[15:11] <knome> sure.
[15:12] <knome> feel free to ask them
[15:12] <knome> and thanks
[15:12] <smartboyhw> knome, actually, Riddell volunteered for that, thank him:)
[19:09] <phillw> elfy: I' grabbing the i386 alternate now, it will take ~ 3 hours :(
[19:16] <elfy> I'm doing the first test now
[19:16] <elfy> taking about ~20 minutes to install
[19:17] <elfy> thanks for looking at the 64bit ones
[19:21] <melodie> hi
[19:38] <phillw> elfy: I've stopped the download, going to update my 13.10 system :)
[19:39] <elfy> lol
[19:40] <elfy> I suspect I'll get 2 of the 32bit ones done today
[20:08] <phillw> he he. only 245 packages to update on my 13.10 system :P
[20:09] <elfy> lol
[20:09] <elfy> you want me to post them to you on a cd :D
[20:10] <phillw> I'll accept the 1 hour download.... I really should update more often!
[20:12] <elfy> heh
[20:13] <elfy> even when it was slow here I rarely waited long - an iso was ~20minutes
[20:15] <phillw> I live a long way from the exchange in a lovely village. I'd rather the village than blisteringly fast b/band :)
[20:15] <elfy> yep
[20:15] <phillw> if I want fast, I ssh into my server on its 100 Mb/s backbone.
[20:18] <phillw> as piglet has things like virt-manager, virtual-box along with bluefish hplib etc. etc. there is always more to update :)
[20:18] <elfy> half way through the encrypted install test
[20:18] <elfy> that'll do for today once it's done
[20:19] <phillw> okies, I'll check out what still needs testing a bit later. I can pull iso's in over night if needed.
[20:20] <elfy> as far as I'm concerned - there will be 2 32 bit tests for looking at - I'll try and spend some time on other tests over the weekend - but I've got a whole bunch of r/l to sort and some xubuntu stuff I want to look at
[20:21] <phillw> yeah, 13.04.4 doesn't look like it will be released today. These things happen.....
[20:22] <elfy> 13.04.4?
[20:23] <phillw> I'll pull in the 32bit alt of xubuntu and kubuntu for overnight install. .... he he... 12.04.3 :P
[21:37] <slickymaster> good night, all
[21:37] <knome> hey slickymaster.
[21:37] <slickymaster> knome, :)
[21:38] <slickymaster> knome, xfce4-mixer testcase is ready for merge, just proposed it
[21:38] <knome> slickymaster, will look at that tomorrow
[21:39] <slickymaster> knome, np, :)
[21:39] <slickymaster> knome, tomorrow is my first vacation day
[21:39] <knome> congrats!
[21:40] <knome> slickymaster, did you go surfing or sth?
[21:41] <slickymaster> knome, yes :) :) before traveling with the family to the south of spain on the 29th
[21:41] <slickymaster> knome, and my kid will join me :)
[21:41] <knome> nice
[21:41] <knome> how old, if i may ask?
[21:42] <slickymaster> knome, eight, last June
[21:42] <knome> mhm
[21:42] <knome> nice age
[21:42] <knome> (even though i don't have kids myself, but that is)
[21:42] <slickymaster> yes, is not a teenager, yet
[21:43] <slickymaster> knome, but I'll be around at least until the 29th
[21:43] <knome> :)
[21:43] <knome> so vacation with internet, eh? ;)
[21:43] <slickymaster> knome, I'm trying to get Xubuntu Documentation translated as much as I can
[21:44] <slickymaster> knome,  :) yes, in the first part of it
[21:44] <slickymaster> knome, I've also have some stuff to edited for the upcoming Ubuntu Manual
[21:45] <slickymaster> knome, and I'm finally trying to make my wiki page up
[21:45] <knome> :)
[21:49] <GuidoPallemans> msg NickServ identify Hotmail12
[21:49] <knome> GuidoPallemans, change your password.
[21:50] <GuidoPallemans> crap, gotta change ma password
[21:50] <slickymaster> :)
[21:50] <GuidoPallemans> happened numerous times
[21:50] <knome> no, not your mums.
[21:50] <thomi> heh
[21:50] <thomi> GuidoPallemans: Hotmail13
[21:50] <thomi> ;)
[21:52] <GuidoPallemans> k
[21:54] <slickymaster> knome, no need to look at it tomorrow, elfy has merge it just now
[21:54] <knome> aha
[21:54] <knome> good work then
[21:55] <knome> he went to bed 20 mins ago, so he must've done that while asleep
[21:55] <slickymaster> he's always nearby, even when we don't see or sense him
[21:56] <slickymaster> https://code.launchpad.net/~slickymaster/ubuntu-manual-tests/xfce4-mixer
[22:04] <phillw> knome: like unit193, elfy is actually a bot :P
[22:04] <knome> the whole xubuntu team are bots.
[22:04] <slickymaster> knome, LOL
[22:04] <phillw> I still chuckle at unit193 being accused of that on the lubuntu support channel :D
[22:09] <knome> same for me on #xubuntu
[22:09] <knome> anyway, nighty!
[22:10] <slickymaster> knome, night
[22:24] <slickymaster> phillw, good night
[22:24] <phillw> slickymaster: sweet dreams!