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exidosgn8 folks ;)00:01
sisterFisterummmm00:04
sisterFisteridk00:04
sisterFisteri'm going to reinstall00:04
sisterFisterGNU INSTALL00:05
ZekkaDaftykins - Thanks for helping earlier, even though the problem turned out to be (most likely) trivial. System is now configured and dual boot works properly.00:06
bastidrazornew updates!! yah!!! oh wait. nvidia-current fails with kernel 3.2.0-5200:06
bastidrazornvidia-304 is just mean with api mismatching00:07
daftykinsZekka: no problem :) i was just there for the ride, didn't really do anything :)00:07
ceccohi guys00:08
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ceccoI have ubuntu 12.04 LTS and I cannot use my webcam integrated on my laptop00:09
ceccodoes anybody can help me00:09
daftykinscecco: have you attempted to identify it and look up whether it works under Linux?00:09
wilee-nileececco, Is cheese installed?00:10
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ceccono... I'm doin'it now00:11
jb992Give us a shout when it's done installing00:14
daftykinsjb992: er what?00:14
jb992daftykins, ?00:15
daftykinsoh was that a follow up from the cheese install idea?00:15
daftykinssorry, on my client that line was invisible00:15
jb992Yep00:16
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pac1join #qt00:18
Ebou_Darn00:19
wilee-nileepac1, /join #qt00:20
HuriachiGood morning #ubuntu00:20
chesterola00:20
qinHuriachi: That's relative00:20
Huriachilol, true :P00:21
HuriachiIs there someone who can assist me with a slight annoyance?00:22
usr13cecco: What does lspci say about it.00:23
usr13?00:23
usr13cecco: Correction:  What does lsusb say about your webcam.00:23
usr13?00:23
daftykinsthat's what i was gonna get to00:24
daftykinsbut he seemed to just disappear...00:24
chesterestou no Ingles quero ir para portugues..00:24
chester......00:24
usr13cecco: lsusb |pastebinit  #Show is the URL00:24
wilee-nilee!br | chester00:24
ubottuchester: Por favor, use #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Para entrar no canal por favor faça "/join #ubuntu-br" sem as aspas. Para a comunidade local portuguêsa, use #ubuntu-pt. Obrigada.00:24
HuriachiI'm trying to get a x2x setup going, but my other device uses touch-screen based input. It's hiding the cursor automatically. Any idea how to stop that?00:24
kAEntis there anyone here? kubuntu seems dead00:26
ThePendulumI am00:26
ThePendulumPoint and shoot00:26
kAEntthanks00:27
kAEnti have a strange problem00:27
kAEnti just installed kubuntu and i can get to the login screen just fine but after i log in and the loading thingie shows up the screen goes to lines and then freezes00:27
kAEnthow can it be driver issues if i can see the login screen00:27
kAEntthe same thing happens on the live cd00:27
kAEntwhen i choose "Try"00:28
kAEntany suggestions? i dont even know where to begin on the forums or google00:28
usr13kAEnt: Quit using Enter key for punctuation.00:28
XMLnewbiso I can do a SU but if I try to log in as the new user it crash's. what can cause a sftp user to crash putty?00:28
usr13kAEnt: lspci |grep VGA  #Tell us what that says.00:29
wilee-nileeXMLnewbi, Details to the channel for help.00:30
usr13kAEnt: cat /etc/issue  #Tell us what that says.00:30
kAEntmoment00:30
wiakkAEnt: what gpu?00:31
XMLnewbiI followed, http://devtidbits.com/2011/06/29/implement-a-sftp-service-for-ubuntudebian-with-a-chrooted-isolated-file-directory/ and now when I try to log into the new user in dreamweaver or putty it crashs.00:31
kAEnt00:0d.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation C61 [GeForce 6150SE nForce 430] (rev a2)00:31
kAEntim on archpup right now on a usb stick00:31
Lecteryo00:31
Lecterhow can i launch a vmware once its installed00:32
Lecter?00:32
wilee-nileeXMLnewbi, read the second paragraph. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo00:32
kAEnti dont know how it can be a video driver issue if i can see the log in screen00:32
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usr13kAEnt: What version of Kubuntu did you install?00:33
asdasd_what's the best distro if i want to keep things minimal visually00:33
wilee-nileeasdasd_, In the ubuntu group?00:33
kAEnt13.0400:33
L-samaanybody using hello, i have installed vmware, how to launch it so i can install stuff in my virtual machine00:33
asdasd_in the ubuntu group as opposed to00:34
kAEntshould i try the lts version?00:34
usr13kAEnt: pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log   #Show us resulting URL00:34
asdasd_what, as opposed to like, mint or something00:34
usr13kAEnt: Wait, you said youre booted to a USB right now?00:34
wilee-nileeasdasd_, This is ubuntu support only lubuntu/lxde would be the easiest, and other OS are on other channels.00:34
daftykinsL-sama: i'll bet vmware have documentation00:34
XMLnewbiI am able to use su to become root, and able to su to the new user from root, I am NOT able to log into a differnt user from putty, or from dreamweaver for ftp00:34
kAEntusr13: right now cause the kubuntu wouldnt let me log in but i could get to a tty if i didnt log in first if i logged in it would freeze00:35
kAEntusr13: so i could move around i just rebooted into my usb stick00:35
kAEntusr13: im using a remote shell to connect to irc00:36
somsipXMLnewbi: sounds more likely to be due to the restrictions set by the sshd.config on the server. And the ftp account00:36
usr13kAEnt: Ok, well not much we can do unless you boot to it.00:36
kAEntusr13: one sec00:37
wilee-nileeXMLnewbi, "By default, the Root account password is locked in Ubuntu. This means that you cannot login as Root directly or use the su command to become the Root user" https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo00:38
XMLnewbiI did edit my sudo nano +76 /etc/ssh/sshd_config and changed Subsystem sftp /usr/lib/openssh/sftp-server to  Subsystem sftp internal-sftp and added Match group sftponly ChrootDirectory /var/www X11Forwarding no AllowTcpForwarding no ForceCommand internal-sftp00:38
ayeceehi. I'd like to optimize directories on / with e2fsck's -D option on boot. I see I can force a fsck by touching /forcefsck, but how might I apply the -D option for this fsck?00:39
XMLnewbiI am on a VPS, I am able to ssh into root. I am not able to ssh into a newly made user00:39
wilee-nileeayecee, THat is not needed linux is optimized in its design.00:39
wilee-nileeayecee, If you have a ssd there are other ways.00:40
ayeceewilee-nilee: it is necessary in this case, to shrink a directory structure in which i created many files.00:40
kAEntwell ill be00:40
kAEntit works now00:40
wilee-nileeayecee, believe what you will. ;)00:41
ayeceewilee-nilee: ls -l reports the directory at nearly 4mb instead of the more typical 4-8k.00:42
ayeceeerr, ls -ld00:43
XMLnewbiman I am tempted to just use root at my ftp user00:43
wilee-nileeayecee, Not an area I have a lot od expertise in but running that fsck everytime does not seem like a correct answer.00:44
ayeceewilee-nilee: just one time would suffice.00:45
wilee-nileeah it looked like you wanted it everytime.00:45
ayeceethis would be trivial in single-user mode or with usb boot, however the machine is remote.00:46
Vivekanandahello. I get no MTA installed when running chrome and a solutions says to install a mail application. Which one should I install for ubuntu. ? is pine the one ?00:47
kAEntusr13: i just rebooted this time and it worked fine i dont get it00:47
ayeceeVivekananda: pine is a MUA. sendmail, exim or postfix would be MTAs. i'm not sure why you'd need one.00:48
Vivekanandaayecee: because of this --- helo everyone. using ubuntu and trying a cron. trying to use gnome-schedule on lubuntu 12.04.(any alternatives if better suited plz suggest ) I get--  No MTA installed, discarding output .  I tried this --  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cron/+bug/891869    and also it directed me to this --   http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1823285 .00:49
ubottuLaunchpad bug 891869 in cron (Ubuntu) "Crontab & Gnome-Scheduler simply do not work in Lubuntu" [Undecided,New]00:49
ayeceeVivekananda: doesn't seem like a problem unless you want the output from the cronjob.00:50
ayeceenormally you wouldn't need it.00:51
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XMLnewbiI guess third time is a charm00:53
Vivekanandaayecee: I am trying to run a cronjob to do what I don in a a console by typing -- foo/.run.py   or python  foo/run.py  my cron line and the syslog output is here --- http://pastebin.com/0XdyPG2G00:56
Vivekanandawhat is wrong ?00:57
VivekanandaI also tried this --  http://pastebin.com/bZ4nr8eZ00:59
ayeceenothing is wrong.00:59
ayeceeit's just telling you that it's discarding the output from the job.00:59
ayeceeyou could probably prevent that message by adding this at the end of the command: >/dev/null 2>&101:00
Vivekanandaayecee: do you mean it is executing the run as I want it too01:01
ayeceeyes01:01
sadasdi just tried to install elementaryOS01:01
sadasdand all it did was install ubuntu01:01
sadasdany ideas01:01
Vivekanandaalso I dont understandd what to choose from 'default behaviour' 'suppress output' ' xapplication'  'x application supress output'01:01
Vivekanandaif it is executing the .run then is it similar to doing ./run.py in the console01:02
ayeceeVivekananda: yes01:02
Vivekanandaalso which one of the pastebin is correct ? the first one ( xwrapper.py) or the second one ?01:02
renegade_Does any one here have any experience with vnc4server?01:03
ayeceeVivekananda: i don't know. i would think the second one.01:03
IdleOne!mint | renegade_01:03
ubotturenegade_: Linux Mint is not a supported derivative of Ubuntu. Please seek support in #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org01:03
Vivekanandaayecee: but in the auxiliary process I dont see the 'run.py' it is not running !!01:03
Vivekanandamy server has not started01:03
wilee-nileesadasd, elementaryOS has a channel #elementary01:04
sadasdk thanks01:04
grahamsavagehi01:08
grahamsavageI'm trying to change network settings (i.e. dns etc)01:08
grahamsavageand i can't seem to be able to do it01:08
grahamsavageI click on options under All Settings > Network and nothing happens01:09
JavaCrash7_plasa.id.allnetwork.org01:12
abc_Yo guys01:14
newpI cannot get Ubuntu on my new laptop w/ UEFI for the life of me.  I swear I want to murder microsoft.01:17
newpI've been at it for over 12 hours trying..01:18
newpI'm either a complete newbie moron or the world is plotting against me.01:18
HackerIIits the world01:20
daftykinsnewp: it wasn't Microsoft.01:20
daftykinsnewp: what exactly are you trying and what is happening?01:20
newpUEFI is causing all the problems & last time I checked that was MS's doing.01:21
newpI can't get Ubuntu to install/boot on my new laptop.  no matter what I try01:21
newpdisabling UEFI, adding nomodeset, acpi, u name it01:22
newpmaybe I'm doing something wrong, I'm not very linux savy.. but I've installed Ubuntu on like a dozen machines & NEVER run into problems.01:22
newpanyway, I'm done messing with this for the night.  if you have any ideas feel free to PM me.01:23
fermulatorDoes anyone have experience installing grub2 on a standalone partition, solely for the purpose of chainloading to other OSs? - I want to do: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MasterBootLoader#A.284.29_Configuring_the_.22Master_Boot_Loader.22_for_the_First_Time01:23
fermulator(I used to be able to do this with legacy grub, but cannot figure out grub2...)01:24
wilee-nileefermulator, If you have a OS with grub 2 already you can use it.01:24
fermulatorwilee-nilee: I prefer to have a standalone "boot master" partition -- such that if the OS that is managing the 'master boot', messes up, I can easily still boot into other OS01:25
fermulatorthe wiki link I refered to outlines the concept01:25
wilee-nileefermulator, YOu need it in the mbr as well01:25
newpwilee, you believe I've been going back & force on the forums since we last spoke & I've gotten absolutely nowhere.01:26
daftykinsnewp: is the flash drive you made known-good for UEFI boot in another system?01:26
wilee-nileenewp, You have a link to your thread?01:27
newphttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=216933401:27
fermulatorwilee-nilee: for example, installing w/ grub2 was successful, but it doesn't create any menu entries: http://pastebin.com/b0kHd61M01:28
newpdefty, what do you mean known-good for UEFI boot?01:28
newpit's just a 8 GB PNF Attache flashdrive01:29
daftykinscan you test it on another UEFI system?01:29
newpPNY*01:29
daftykinsas in you know it successfully boots01:29
newpI don't have another UEFI system.01:29
daftykinsso you can't be sure the flash drive is bootable then?01:29
wilee-nileenewp, Have you tried getting rid of that wubi stuff?01:30
newpwell I successfully installed off it but then Ubuntu stopped booting01:30
daftykinsoh ok you have gotten further than just booting live mode01:30
newpI can also boot Ubuntu off it to try w/o installing01:30
newpwilee:  yes, I'm pretty sure I did01:30
newpI deleted the files in my C: drive & also the original wubi.exe01:31
ZildjiandrummerxI'm Running Ubuntu 13.04 on Virtualbox (I'm testing it for the 1st time), Can you help me out installing a USB driver so that the virtual machine can recognize my USB memories? I'm running Virtualbox 4.2.1601:31
wilee-nileenewp, Run the bootinfo summary again and make sure thte entries are gone from windows.01:32
wilee-nileewubi entries01:32
daftykinsZildjiandrummerx: there are likely roughly 1 million guides online for that01:32
newpand yeah dafty, I installed Ubuntu successfully (after not knowing I had to disable SecureBoot & FastBoot) with wilee last night.  I used Ubuntu for the night then shut down before bed.  upton waking up I booted my PC & Ubuntu just kept hanging on that black screen I describe in the thread01:33
wilee-nileenewp, wubi is removed with the standard add remove.01:33
newpwilee: yeah I will.01:33
ATaTTackso whats a good channel to start out on?01:33
usr13ATaTTack: For _______________ ?01:33
newpI went to add/remove it throgh control panel after I deleted the files (stupid, I know) & it said the unintall files could not be found "would you like to remove it from the program list"01:33
wilee-nileenewp, The only thing I'm noticing here is that you seem to not be following some standardized approaches in general, this may be due to your frustration.01:34
ATaTTackgetting to know IRC01:34
usr13ATaTTack: Genreal Linux information?01:34
ATaTTackand yes01:34
newpmaybe so, but it also has to do with the fact that I don't know Ubuntu lingo that well01:34
usr13ATaTTack: #linux01:34
usr13!irc | ATaTTack01:34
ubottuATaTTack: A list of official Ubuntu IRC channels, as well as IRC clients for Ubuntu, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat - For a general list of !freenode channels, see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#channellist - See also !Guidelines01:34
newpit's difficult for me unless the directions are layed on01:35
usr13ATaTTack: correction:  ##linux01:35
ATaTTackthanks01:35
newphonestly wilee, I need a break.  I'm burning myself out on this.01:35
wilee-nileenewp, My advice is don't do it unless you have confirmation it is correct, ask for more definitions of what you may not understand, not trying to preach at you. ;)01:36
wilee-nileeyeah take a break.01:36
newpI know that, but others aren't as patient with newbs like me :P01:36
newpI don't like taking people's time & bugging them.  especially when you're taking time out of your day to help me for free01:37
wilee-nileenewp, That mod is, they are your best ally.01:37
usr13newp: Directness sometimes comes off as impatience.01:37
newpusr: I get what ya mean.  it's tough to read one's attitude through the internet though.  I certainly don't mean it that way & I try to tell folks that when I can.01:39
newpanyhow, thank you both.  I'm gonna take a break, have a whiskey or two & get some sleep.01:39
wilee-nileenewp, When I'm helping I'm serving myself first, basically, some realize this some don't, don't worry about taking up our time. ;)01:39
newp:)01:40
newpthank you bud.  it's appreciated more than you know :P01:40
wilee-nileewe all serve ourselves first always01:40
newptrue I guess, when it comes down to it01:41
newpanyhow, I'm outta here.  I've been staring at these screens far too long lol01:42
netlartrue joy is helping others01:42
newptalk to you folks tomorrow01:42
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seanzkyanyone here own an android tab?01:43
wilee-nileeseanzky, There are android channels01:45
wilee-nileeseanzky, If this is ubuntu related tell us waht's up01:46
vanishingim pulling my hairs out...01:46
seanzkywell im new to ubuntu and im trying to format my sdcard01:46
seanzkyi no longer want fat32 and i want to use ext4. it seems to work fine on my laptop but on my xoom it cant see the card01:47
vanishingwired ethernet connects, and obtains ip, but cannot connect to outside world..01:47
seanzkyvanishing, firewall?01:48
wilee-nileeseanzky, So your problem is the card being read as a ext4 by an android tablet?01:48
seanzkyyeah01:48
vanishingseanzky: i dont think that would be the case...01:48
seanzkyi thought android would have no problem reading ext401:48
wilee-nileeseanzky, #android01:48
vanishingbut let me try anyways..01:48
seanzkythanks will try01:49
wilee-nileeseanzky, I would ask them I have a android phine and a nexus 7, have used only a fat32 card.01:50
vanishingseanzky: oh wow..it indeed is the case..01:50
seanzkynice!01:50
vanishingseanzky: lol..thanks mate01:50
seanzkyno problem!01:50
lucianowhat icon is this http://cdn.xfce.org/about/screenshots/4.10-1.png ?01:50
seanzkywilee-nilee, i didnt like the 2gb limit for file xfers hehe01:51
wilee-nileeseanzky, fat32 is 4 gigs01:51
seanzkyi meant 401:51
wilee-nileeI get the meaning though01:51
seanzkyi was trying to copy a 5gb and it failed :(01:52
wilee-nileeseanzky, Have you tried airdroid for transferring?01:52
seanzkyi have but it has a limit now01:53
seanzkyits no longer free, as soon as it left beta01:53
vanishingnext time when my cable network slows down to 2m I can call them and proudly tell them "I am connected directly to your modem using wired connect, and the connection is slow."01:53
seanzkyvanishing, but you have to make sure it's nothing on your end slowing down your connection. hehe.01:53
vanishingseanzky: meh..they dont care about that, and im pretty sure its not my problem :D01:54
seanzkyhehe01:54
wilee-nileeseanzky, I'm not sure but take a look here. http://www.talkandroid.com/guides/beginner/best-android-apps-for-transferring-files-over-wifi-june-2013/01:57
usr13seanzky: You don't have a usb cable?01:58
seanzkyi do01:59
seanzkywhat about it, usr1301:59
usr13seanzky: Plug it in.  (You don't need an app.)01:59
seanzkyi know, but the file limit still kicks in01:59
wilee-nileeseanzky, What ubuntu release are you running, there is a ppa for mtp for 12.0401:59
seanzkyi have 13.0401:59
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seanzkyno ppa for raring?02:00
wilee-nileeshould plug and work with no file limit to the android02:00
wilee-nileedepends on the android version what is it seanzky02:00
usr13seanzky: If you don't want to plug it in, you can use filexpert via WiFi02:00
seanzkyim using custom roms02:01
usr13seanzky: What is a "custom rom"?02:02
seanzkycm 10.2 on my phone02:02
wilee-nileeseanzky, They are based on a google release though.02:02
seanzkyeos on my tab02:02
seanzkyyeah02:02
wilee-nilee10.2 should just mount, does here.02:02
seanzkyandroid 4.2.2 and 4.302:02
usr13Too many acronyms02:02
seanzkyi just tried on my phone and it didnt :(02:02
seanzkyand its 4.302:03
seanzkyusr13, hehe02:03
wilee-nileeseanzky, YOu have the development usb ticked?02:03
seanzkyyeah02:03
wilee-nileestrange02:03
seanzkyi remember my phone being very picky when i first got this 64 card02:03
seanzkyit was either exfat or fat32 if i recall correctly02:04
seanzkygalaxy s3, that is02:04
seanzkyi build my own nightlies, perhaps i broked something?02:04
wilee-nileeseanzky, https://launchpad.net/~langdalepl/+archive/gvfs-mtp02:04
bazhang!ot | seanzky02:05
ubottuseanzky: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!02:05
seanzkysorry!02:05
seanzkywell thanks anyway guys02:05
wilee-nileeseanzky, check the ppa.02:05
seanzkywill do thanks again!02:05
wilee-nileehas a raring release02:05
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L-samahello,02:07
L-samahow can i see lets say all my games applications on ubiquity?02:07
wilee-nileeL-sama, if installed I would think the dash02:07
L-samathe dash only shows like 3 of them if i search games02:08
wilee-nileesearch by name02:08
L-samai can use my command line to launch by name02:10
L-samawhats the point in ubiquity?02:10
L-samaback to Gnome/fluxbox/kde and xfce02:11
wilee-nileeL-sama, You asked where they are if you search with it you will know.02:11
L-samai want to look at the list of my games02:11
L-samatyping game in search doesnt solve the issue02:11
L-samanoob testing made ubiquity02:11
L-samaby exact name its command line02:11
wilee-nileeL-sama, I don't use unity, so I'm not sure games you add are there always02:11
L-samanp02:12
L-samaill just get back to viable desktops02:12
L-samalike gnome02:12
wilee-nileeI use the shell, but using synapse and the cairo dock never the search02:13
ganjikahow do i disable an infuriating touchpad?02:14
wilee-nileeganjika, What desktop?02:14
wilee-nileeand what release02:14
ganjikalubuntu extra life edition02:15
ganjikaoh desktop02:15
ganjikai think openbox02:15
wilee-nileeganjika, NOt really supported here technically, however some might help.02:15
wilee-nileelubuntu in general would need a file change most likely.02:16
ganjikay thank u02:16
wilee-nileeganjika, I have an acer d250 that has a universal tap pad on/off, you might look there as well.02:18
uronuhey guys, is there any other deep freeze than ofris on ubuntu? I want to have a deep freeze on my ubuntu 12.04 client machines.02:19
wilee-nileeits a key set prompt02:19
ganjikai have one but it dont work :/02:19
CorruptedHelix_Hi! I'm trying to play music through Google Music on Ubuntu. However, the audio plays rather fast, faster than it actually should. I can tell this because of how fast the bar moves. Notably, you can't hear the audio, either.02:21
CorruptedHelix_This also occurs in Youtube (the video moves faster than it should), and occurs in both of my browsers, Firefox and Chromium.02:21
goddardi got the large 27 inch at 2560x1440 what kind of tweaks should I do02:22
wilee-nileeuronu, They might know more in ##linux if you are registered with freenode.02:23
CorruptedHelix_Actually, it's worth noting that Ubuntu doesn't seem to detect my laptop's speakers.02:23
uronuwilee-nilee: how do i register with freenode?02:25
CorruptedHelix_Actually, now it is...02:25
wilee-nilee!register02:25
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uronuwilee-nilee: ubottu: thanks02:26
uronu!register02:26
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CorruptedHelix_I do have an issue worth nothing, though. The sound for Ubuntu/GNOME doesn't sync with the sound buttons on my computer, I think I can explain it.02:26
CorruptedHelix_In GNOME 3, there's a Speaker icon in the top right, where I can change the volume.02:26
CorruptedHelix_Those are my speaker's volume controls.02:27
CorruptedHelix_However, F9 , F10 and F11 on my laptop also serve as volume buttons to change it.02:27
CorruptedHelix_These buttons bring up a GUI of the volume supposedly trying, but doesn't actually control the sound.02:27
HackerIICorruptedHelix_  you could install gnome-alsa-mixer02:27
CorruptedHelix_I was recommended to do that before and don't remember what came out of it02:28
CorruptedHelix_so I'll try it again02:28
HackerIIdo it from synaptic02:28
wilee-nileegoddard, Some cool 3d shades. ;)02:29
CorruptedHelix_HackerII: user reviews indicate 13.04 broke it02:30
CorruptedHelix_And since I'm on 13.04, that won't work02:30
HackerIIhuh02:30
HackerIIthen go in terminal and type alsamixer02:31
CorruptedHelix_Yeah, I see it.02:31
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CorruptedHelix_I can change the volume, that isn't my problem. My problem is that it doesn't work with my hardware keys properly02:31
HackerIIo02:32
HackerIIno help there since your on 1302:32
CorruptedHelix_Fair enough. :p02:32
enen92does anyone know how I can import the configuration file of an openvpn in ubuntu without manually filling all the entries?02:33
adamsilverIf I install skype from skype.com does it mean I will have to keep it up-to-date manually?02:34
Extreminadorguys how can i know what error is giving in kmail when traying to access my hotmail account ?02:34
HackerIIuronu  still there ?02:35
uronuHackerII: yes?02:35
Extreminadori press the button "check email" but email list is empety02:35
wilee-nileeExtreminador, Has it ever worked?02:36
HackerIIi found this if itl help  http://xubuntugeek.blogspot.com/2012/07/how-to-deep-freeze-xubuntu-with-ofris.html02:36
Extreminadornop i installed it at 10 min ago02:36
HackerII12.0402:36
wilee-nileeExtreminador, probably has to be setup correctly.02:36
Extreminadorafter i install it i did use the assistance to set the account (it seems fine)02:36
Extreminadorit's using the correct pop3 server settings to receive and the correct smtp server setting to send02:37
uronuHackerII: thanks but I already tried that.02:37
HackerIIwhat happened02:37
wilee-nileeExtreminador, You have it as ssl or what is appropriate02:38
ghostnik11question as I want to know if this command is correct: deb     http://deb.torproject.org/torproject.org raring main02:38
uronuThis works for me http://www.upubuntu.com/2011/07/install-gofris-on-ubuntu-1104-to.html also in 12.0402:38
Extreminadorhow can i see the reason fot no connection ?02:38
wilee-nileethe correct ports?02:38
ghostnik11i want to add that to my ubuntu 13.0402:38
Extreminadorhumm let me check02:38
HackerIIok, nice02:38
uronuHackerII: thanks again, till then.02:38
HackerIIok02:38
Extreminadoryup SSL/TLS on port 995 to receive02:38
wilee-nileeExtreminador, Might be just ssl, and what about the smtp?02:39
Extreminadorunder the port is something asking for the autentication type ... the option atm is on "plain" not sure what is this and what it the correct one02:40
wilee-nileeExtreminador, You might ask in ##winodws to confirm all that.02:40
Extreminadorwilee-nileemthe smpt wait a second02:40
Extreminadorahh ok wilee-nilee i will02:40
Extreminadorwilee-nilee but to finish smtp is at TLS, port 587 with "plain" option autentication02:41
wilee-nileeExtreminador, https://support.mozillamessaging.com/en-US/kb/thunderbird-and-hotmail02:41
Extreminadornice wilee-nilee i was seeing the options here http://www.emailaddressmanager.com/tips/mail-settings.html02:42
wilee-nileeExtreminador, It can be a push at times to get this all correct I'm actually able to get the free yahoo, by using my android server stuff, heh, heh. ;)02:44
wilee-nileeon thinderbird02:44
Extreminadorwilee-nilee yess i can receive the email's now.. it was that aitentication thing02:44
Extreminadori set it to "clear text"02:44
Extreminadorwilee-nilee i had the thunderbird but i don´t like it02:46
wilee-nileeI use the gnome shell, so it woeks here. ;)02:46
Extreminadorthunderbird is very incomplete... i have several directorys and he just don´t copy them and organize them02:46
wilee-nileeworks*02:46
pvl1dammit ubuntu still hits up my laptop too much02:47
Extreminadorand thunderbird i did not manage to download the emails address as well02:47
holsteinthunderbird is one of the more well developed applications for email on any platform02:47
holstein!language02:47
ubottuPlease watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional.02:47
holsteinpvl1: still "hits" up?02:47
wilee-nileeExtreminador, Cool, sounds like you gt it working.02:47
wilee-nileegot*02:48
Extreminadoryup wilee-nilee thanks for that link... it had more complete information02:48
Extreminadorstill receiving emails02:48
pvl1holstein: woops, i meant it gets too hot02:48
pvl1im using 13.04 64bit, gnome-fallback (failback? idr) with no effects. trying to install propriety driver atm through synaptic, seeing no progress02:49
Extreminadorholstein mybe it's my bad english but is "hits" a bad word ?02:49
wiaksamba 4 is a mess on ubuntu 12.04 LTS :O02:50
wiak<- got errors of premissions when installing samba4 from ppa02:50
wiakapt*02:50
pvl1Extreminador: no i just wasnt paying attention02:51
wilee-nileeExtreminador, I think that was fir the d word by another02:51
Extreminadorahh ok lool02:53
holsteinpvl1: i would try that driver that you are, and try something like xfce. xubuntu..02:53
pvl1holstein: i3 should be good. should probably start using it02:54
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Extreminadorhihihihi let me get back to the original enviroment of unbutu this one is giving some bugs02:55
Extreminadorand i am not sure how to fix them... yet02:56
Extreminadorwhere can i see some kind of tuturial to teach me how to find out or how to fix some random error02:57
Extreminadorhumm guess this is a very stupid question lool02:57
Extreminadorforget the question02:57
holsteinExtreminador: here.. if you elaborate about the *exact* error02:57
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Extreminadorbut my question is exacle that... i would like to be able to figured out y self where i could fiz it...02:58
Guest37381#nick kling02:58
Extreminadormybe the not how to fix it but at least to check the correct file to fix it02:58
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Extreminadorbut yehh wait a sec again02:58
Extreminadorok here it is...03:00
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Extreminadorwhen accessing the left menu and only when i chosse the aplication sub-menu it gives this error03:01
Extreminadori will parte a image it's beatter03:02
Extreminadorhumm print screen button does not work03:02
wilee-nileeExtreminador, does kubuntu have the screenshot app?03:03
holsteinExtreminador: works for me.. usually just dumps an image in /home or */pictures03:03
Extreminadorwilee-nilee well in the original unbuntu desktop enviroment i click on that button and it even make a sound03:03
wilee-nileeyeah03:03
leeSL510I'm on ubuntu 13.04 the you tube icon in the application launcher has an arrow as if it's open. What is the process to kill it.  If I right click the icon it doesn't quit.03:03
Extreminadorwhat is called the paint program ?03:04
holsteinExtreminador: are you using KDE? kubuntu?03:04
Extreminadorno it's the one called enlightment03:04
Extreminadorenlightement desktop enviroment03:04
Gnu-centric_on_ME-17?03:05
ExtreminadorGnu-centric_on_M yup03:05
holsteinExtreminador: then, the defaults are different.. if you are using the "original ubuntu desktop", then, you get the "original" apps and config.. when you customize, you are expected to customize03:05
Extreminadoryup i know holstein that why i said that i should learn a little more about this03:05
holsteinExtreminador: if you literally just started using E17, then, i agree.. you should just use it for a week or more first..03:06
RichardLynchI am running a recent ubuntu on old Toshiba Qosmio laptop03:06
holsteinRichardLynch: "recent", or supported?03:06
Gnu-centric_on_MPardon me for jumping in, but is there an *buntu that ships w/ E17?03:07
holsteinhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/CheckingYourUbuntuVersion RichardLynch03:07
Extreminadorwhat it the program name for the paint linux ?03:07
RichardLynchIt was working this morning. Now I try and boot and HDD1 error shows up then Ubuntu splash screen03:07
wilee-nileeGnu-centric_on_M, Its in the ubuntu repos.03:07
holsteinGnu-centric_on_M: not by default, but E17 is in the repos.. and *all* official ubuntu versions have it in the repos..03:07
RichardLynchSupported. I don't go for bleeding edge03:08
Gnu-centric_on_Mok, thanks, makes sense,03:08
RichardLynchI would like to make the splash go away.03:08
holsteinExtreminador: i use the gimp.. there are *many* apps that are (AFAIK) like "paint"03:08
Gnu-centric_on_Mwas just curious03:08
wilee-nileeGnu-centric_on_M, There is a ppa as wel;03:08
holsteinExtreminador: please do not repeat questions03:08
wilee-nileewell*03:08
RichardLynchOr get into BIOS, but that's not for here.03:08
RichardLynchOr get into grub. Or get CDROM to boot w/ System Rescue CD.03:09
Extreminadorholstein lol sorry thought you did not see it03:09
RichardLynchI have tried ESC, F2, and F12 for the BIOS. Actually all the Fx03:09
Extreminadori am asking this because yestarday i did use one that i know how to access using the unbunto desktop enviroment but using the e-17 not sure how to open it03:10
holsteinRichardLynch: ubuntu, or any operating system will not be preventing or enabling you to access the bios or preventing you from booting a CD03:10
RichardLynchYes. I am asking about skipping the splash screen.03:10
holstein!gpaint03:10
holstein!info gpaint03:10
ubottugpaint (source: gpaint): GNU Paint - a small, easy to use paint program for GNOME. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3.3-6ubuntu1 (raring), package size 104 kB, installed size 717 kB03:10
RichardLynchI am avoiding the inevitable questions about BIOS boot and/or CDROM boot :-)03:11
holsteinExtreminador: ^^ gpaint seems like an option... you should find it my opening the package amanger of your choice and searching "paint"03:11
Extreminadorthanks holstein03:11
holsteinRichardLynch: i think they are relevant, since they could indicate a hardware failure or problem for breakage that could be creating the issue you are seeing03:12
Gnu-centric_on_MGIMP seems so labyrinthine03:12
holsteinGnu-centric_on_M: then, dont use it03:12
RichardLynchOkay. Let's just say I tried all the usual things to get to BIOS. Getting to BIOS is a hardware issue. It's OT here, as you said.03:13
RichardLynchI am happy to try again.03:13
Gnu-centric_on_Mwasn't meaning to complain, just commenting, sorry if I was out of line03:13
holsteinRichardLynch: the bios is not related to the operating system.. you can remove the hard drive ubuntu is on, try getting into *anything* from there, and if you still have the same issues, you may find your questions more fit for a hardware channel03:13
RichardLynchThat said, my original On-topic Qs were about GRUB, Splash screen.03:14
holsteinRichardLynch: i would try til i get what i want to happen to happen.. i would want to try an older kernel.. i would try a live CD03:14
RichardLynchI am trying a System rescue CD. But I don't think it has priority in the BIOS.03:14
holsteinGnu-centric_on_M: you can both complain and comment in the #ubuntu-offtopic channel :)03:14
holsteinRichardLynch: confirm that it does, or not.. if *nothing* will boot, you could have bad memory, or a bad motherboard.. or cables..03:15
RichardLynchThe laptop goes into HDD1 really fast, and then Ubuntu splash covers that. I want to disable the splash.03:15
Gnu-centric_on_Mok, thanks,03:15
RichardLynchError HDD1, I mean.03:15
RichardLynchSomehow Ubuntu is displaying that splash screen. Is the in GRUB boot loader?03:16
holsteinRichardLynch: i would search for what the particular hardware needs for accessing the bios.. typically, if its easy, i'll pull a hard drive out so i dont "break" it by force restarting03:16
smartboyhwRichardLynch, you mean, the Ubuntu screen with 5 dots?03:16
hellknightI've been using Ubuntu 13.04 since its launch. It is great, but I can't find a calendar application for it. Could you guys recommend one?03:17
smartboyhw!calendar03:17
ubottucalendar is at http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendars/03:17
smartboyhwOuch03:17
smartboyhwWhat the03:17
RichardLynchYes. Two hard drives, a CD ROM, something and then what looks like a window maybe03:17
josesmartboyhw: wrong channel, I'd say03:17
smartboyhw!find orage03:17
ubottuFound: python-ubuntuone-storageprotocol, asterisk-voicemail, asterisk-voicemail-imapstorage, asterisk-voicemail-odbcstorage, cipux-storage-tools, fai-setup-storage, libcipux-storage-perl, libghc-hashed-storage-dev, libghc-hashed-storage-doc, libghc-hashed-storage-prof (and 19 others) http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=orage&searchon=names&suite=raring&section=all03:17
smartboyhwuh hum:(03:17
holsteinhellknight: google calendar.. or just try the ones in the repo.. there are many that are all different03:17
smartboyhwhellknight, try Orage03:18
Gnu-centric_on_MIt just seemed to me, perhaps, that someone may have been looking for a simpler, lighter alternative to GIMP,  feeling, as I, that for the task at hand, GIMP is like taking slegehammer to a fly03:18
hellknightholstein: I've been using google calendar. It's good, but I'd like something native. I mean native app.03:18
hellknightsmartboyhw: let me see03:18
holsteinhellknight: there are many..03:18
RichardLynchHypothesis: Boot loader fires up, HDD1 fails, and splash screen manages to display after that somehow.03:19
holsteinRichardLynch: i could propose that "splash screen" is in a frame buffer or something, and not coming from the hard drive, but, more indicitive of a hard drive failure03:19
hellknightchecking out orage.03:19
RichardLynchIf that splash screen is in grub, I can quit bugging you guys, because Ubuntu isn't even running, really.03:19
holsteinRichardLynch: when booting, you should be able to press "shift" and see more options for grub.. you shoudl also be able to boot a CD..03:20
wilee-nileeRichardLynch, YOu can text boot, no splash03:20
RichardLynchThe first hard drive in the image is underlined in orange, if that helps...03:20
holsteinRichardLynch: its not.. what are you talking about?03:20
RichardLynchWill turn around and try shift key.03:20
RichardLynchwilee-nilee, That was my first question. How though?03:21
holsteinRichardLynch: press shift.. try getting into *anything*.. recovery console.. memtest03:22
holsteinan older kernel03:22
RichardLynchNo luck with shift key03:22
pepeeso, what's the default package manager in ubuntu?03:22
Gnu-centric_on_MMay I ask a q related to text vs. splash boot ?03:22
pepeeGnu-centric_on_M, yeah, just ask03:23
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holsteinRichardLynch: then, if it were my machine, i would be testing hardware with a live CD03:23
RichardLynchholstein, A boot kernel can include an image. I theorized that Ubuntu used that.03:23
holstein!ask | Gnu-centric_on_M03:23
ubottuGnu-centric_on_M: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience03:23
RichardLynchholstein, If I could get the CDROM to boot, I would03:23
holsteinRichardLynch: and, im proposing the potetial and alledged hardware failure is why you cant get the hard drive, or live media to boot03:24
holsteinpotential*03:24
hellknightorage is pathetic... I should probablu install the lightening extension to Thunderbird and deal with it for a while03:24
Gnu-centric_on_Mok thanks, I was just afraid about interrupting when it seems busy03:24
wilee-nileeRichardBronosky, At grub hit e and remove quiet splash03:24
wilee-nileesame on the cd03:24
holsteinhellknight: there are plenty, friend.. you need to ask for what features you seek.. or, just open a package manager and search "calendar" and see whay they are03:24
RichardLynchholstein, Probably. Just trying to get the splash screen to go away03:24
RichardLynchwilee-nilee, I cannot boot CD. I cannot get to grub with shift key.03:25
holsteinRichardLynch: remvoe the hard drive, and you'll know thre is *no* way ubuntu, broken or otherwise, is sending anything to the sscreen03:25
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wilee-nileeRichardLynch, For the cd boot there is a outside the bios boot from menu, mine is the f12 key at powering on yours may be the same or different, the bios usually tells you this info.03:26
RichardLynchIt's a laptop... I can remove the HD, but can't find another as a swap in...03:26
hellknightholstein: don't get me wrong mate. Actually, I have been using Arch Linux since last 4 years. It had evolution which had integrated calendar. Which I liked. I'm thinking of installing it now. I'm asking for features like the one in OS X calendar.03:26
pepeewhat's the default graphic package manager in ubuntu?03:26
holsteinRichardLynch: you dont have to put *any* hard drive back in.. if you cant get to the bios without a hard drive in the machine and boot *anything*.. then, that is an indicator of the state of the hardware03:27
wilee-nileepepee, whuch desktop?03:27
pepeewilee-nilee, unity03:27
wilee-nileepepee, compiz03:27
holsteinhellknight: ubuntu has *all* of those options as well.. if you "like" them, use them03:27
pepeewilee-nilee, package manager..03:27
holsteinhellknight: i dont use OSX.. but, if you would like to elaborate about the features you see, a volunteer here might be able to point you in a direction03:28
RichardLynchGuess it's time to disassemble a laptop. That seldom is productive, but what the hey.03:28
hellknightholstein: Yup.. doing that now. The ones with KDE are also good, but they install a lot of dependencies which somehow I don't like.03:28
RichardLynchTHANKS03:28
hellknightholstein: I03:28
hellknightholstein: I03:28
hellknightholstein: I'll stick with Evolution for a while and see how it turns out on the Ubuntu desktop.03:28
holsteinhellknight: enjoy!03:28
hellknightBTW, anyone using Ubuntu on AMD graphics card? Friend wants to install Maya on his Linux installation but I don't know how well AMD cards are supported on Ubuntu. He might need propreitary drivers. I'm a NVIDIA users since last 5 years03:29
wilee-nileepepee, Ah package manager, what is your definition of that, apt-get?03:29
pepeewilee-nilee, yeah, but the default one with a GUI03:30
holstein!mint | hellknight03:30
ubottuhellknight: Linux Mint is not a supported derivative of Ubuntu. Please seek support in #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org03:30
holstein!ati | hellknight03:30
ubottuhellknight: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto03:30
wilee-nileepepee, Hmm, not sure there is one specific, what is the goal here?03:30
pepeewilee-nilee, to install or remove packages from a GUI...03:30
holsteinhellknight: it will be on a hardware by hardware basis really.. should be able to fire up a live CD, and refer to the wiki above and get a good idea03:31
pepeewilee-nilee, in KDE, for example, you have muon03:31
MKCoinHow can I make my headphones the preferred audio output device in 12.04? So they always work when I plug them in; right now I need to manually switch to them.03:31
holsteinMKCoin: you can try pavucontrol.. but i dont know if that will work either03:31
hellknightI'm sorry to bother you all, but the thing is that. I'm new to Ubuntu. I have been using Arch Linux & Fedora for a while. I switched to Ubuntu due to upcoming 14.04 LTS release & I like Ubunut's smooth transition between releases.03:31
wilee-nileepepee, Not sure, in ubuntu you can load graphic stuff from the terminal the additional stuff in software sources, the ubuntu softwrae center or synaptic.03:32
pepeesynaptic..03:32
holsteinMKCoin: some hardware doesnt support linux/ubuntu that well, and just doesnt work all that great out of the box. my headphones automatically switch on most hardware of mine, and when they dont, i tolerate it03:32
pepeek, thanks03:32
wilee-nileenot sure there is a gui that covers all specifically03:33
MKCoinholstein: They are USB headphones, and they work flawlessly, even the custom volume control buttons on the wire, it just doesn't automatically switch to use them as output is all.03:33
holsteinhellknight: you arent 'bothering' anyone.. its just not a maya support channel.. though, the driver suppport will be the same (likely) for any linux with the proprietary graphics cards03:33
holsteinMKCoin: how did pavucontrol work for you?03:34
MKCoinI don't have it installed, just a moment03:34
hellknightholstein: thanks mate. We'll try to do a test install along with the official ATI driver from AMD & see how well it goes.03:35
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Extreminadorfound someone having the same issue with Enlightenment http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=197943403:36
holsteinhellknight: really depends on the card, but i suggest, try the open one first, then the one in the repos.. then move one to trying ones from the site03:37
holsteinExtreminador: what issue?03:37
MKCoineh didn't work holstein, nevermind I guess. It didn't work in 11.04 and it didn't work in 11.10, i was just holding out hope lol03:38
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hellknightholstein: It is the latest 7850 along with AMD 8350 8-core processor. We're trying to build a workstation. Will do a lot of virtualization as Virtualbox & KVM are well supported. Will keep you updated.03:38
Extreminadorholstein check the link it's the same issue03:38
holsteinMKCoin: i dont think that'll work that way, since the device is gone at some point. you can try setting it in alsamixer.. or specifying with something in a asound.conf file. but i know what i would do03:39
holsteinExtreminador: you would like the volunteers here to open that link, and read about the issue you are having?03:39
ubuntusalut03:39
ubuntuhi03:39
holsteinhellknight: good luck.. with steam, i think driver support is getting "better" all the time for all linux03:40
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ExtreminadorI simply click on the desktop and navigate to "Applications > Accessories" with my mouse, I get the title error... It goes as follows:03:40
ExtreminadorEnlightenment error: This is very bad. Enlightenment SEGV'd.03:40
ExtreminadorThis is not meant to happen and is likely a sign of a bug in Enlightenment or the libraries it relies on. You can gdb attach this process now to try to debug it, or you could exit, or you could just restart to try and get your desktop back the way it was. Please compile everything with -g in your CFLAGS.03:40
Guest22677is there a beginner linux chanel?03:40
holsteinExtreminador: are you using 12.04?03:41
Extreminadorhumm let me check... not sure th version but i think sow03:42
holsteinGuest22677: there used to be an ubuntu beginners team.. the channel is still there.. #ubuntu-beginners03:42
holsteinGuest22677: you can try a generall linux channel, though you shoudl be registered03:42
Extreminadorholstein nop 0.16 the lateds one03:42
Guest22677so, how do i get there? bare in mind i just downloaded xchat, and its my first time using it..please?03:42
holsteinExtreminador: are you running ubuntu 12.04?03:43
Extreminador12.04.3 LTS holstein03:44
Extreminadoryehh release 12.0403:44
holsteinExtreminador: ppa's are not officially supported, but e17 just actually released recently (since 12.04 was released).. so you might benefit from a PPA such as https://launchpad.net/~efl/+archive/trunk which would give you the latest "stable" version of e1703:44
Gnu-centric_on_Mif a PPA is signed by a known, trusted party, can't it be just as safe  as official repos?03:46
Extreminadorahh holstein i see thanks03:46
Extreminadorwill check that and will try to install it03:46
holstein!ppa03:46
ubottuA Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa and !ppa-purge03:46
grahamsavageGoogle Chrome under ubuntu is driving me nuts03:46
grahamsavageit keeps pausing03:46
holsteinGuest22677: safety is not really the only issue.. its more about not being able to support all the 3rd party packages03:46
grahamsavageit's stalls as i'm trying to scroll up or down and i can't work out why.. i have 0 plugins installed and my computer is a total beast03:47
grahamsavageany ideas?03:47
holsteingrahamsavage: works fine for me.. see that it is updated.. try removing the config. try starting from the command line and see it thre are errors03:47
grahamsavageall 4 cpu's are at < 4%,  31.1 Gb of free memory03:48
grahamsavageholstein: ok03:48
holsteingrahamsavage: i agree that the system should "handle" chrome03:48
grahamsavagehow do you remove the config?03:48
holsteingrahamsavage: i usually just rename it temporarily03:49
grahamsavageah is it in my home dir somewhere?03:49
holsteingrahamsavage: i find mine in ~/.config/google-chrome03:49
grahamsavageholstein: hmm at first glance it seems to be performing well03:52
grahamsavagelol.. any idea why this sort of thing works?03:52
grahamsavageor is it the reinstall windows kinda approach?03:52
holsteingrahamsavage: what worked?03:52
Guest22677who can tell me which commands i need to look at to get my internet dongle going on Mint14?03:52
grahamsavageah moving the config file03:52
holstein!mint | Guest2267703:53
ubottuGuest22677: Linux Mint is not a supported derivative of Ubuntu. Please seek support in #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org03:53
grahamsavageholstein: no errors03:53
holstein!wifi > Guest2267703:53
ubottuGuest22677, please see my private message03:53
Guest22677i did read it03:53
holsteingrahamsavage: something in that file was messing up chrome.. in the config for it and your user.. removing it makes a default fresh one start03:53
holsteinGuest22677: then, you understand where to go for help with your mint operating system.. thanks!03:54
Guest22677i do, but i just have to figure out how to get there :)03:54
holsteinGuest22677: this is #ubuntu on the freenode network.. #linuxmint-help is on irc.spotchat.org.. you'll /connect to spotchat like you do freenode and /join channels there03:56
Guest22677thanks , isee were i am now03:58
Guest22677,bye03:58
Kartagishttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution#Adding_undetected_resolutions <--- following this, how can I find out what my options for output are?04:00
scarrshello I need to install ia32-libs whick no longer resides in the repo. Installing quake 3... what package do I need to install04:00
holstein!info ia32-libs04:01
ubottuPackage ia32-libs does not exist in raring04:02
holstein!info ia32-libs-multiarch04:02
ubottuia32-libs-multiarch (source: ia32-libs): Multi-arch versions of former ia32-libraries. In component universe, is extra. Version 20090808ubuntu36 (raring), package size 4 kB, installed size 39 kB (Only available for amd64; ia64; i386)04:02
holsteinscarrs: is that what you need ^04:02
Kartagis!find ia32-libs04:02
ubottuFound: ia32-libs-multiarch04:02
holsteinKartagis: find is much more handy :)04:03
scarrsty04:04
Extreminadorwhen i use the command "sudo apt-add-repository http://ppa.launchpad.net/efl/trunk/ubuntu" it gives the error "ValueError: too many values to unpack"04:05
holsteinExtreminador: you use the ppa, not the link to it04:06
Extreminadorwith out the http ?04:06
holsteinalso, its add-apt-repository"04:06
holsteinfor example.. for that PPA. "sudo add-apt-repository ppa:efl/trunk" should do it04:08
holsteinExtreminador: ^04:08
Extreminadorhumm it says invalid04:08
holsteinExtreminador: whats says what, exactly?04:08
ExtreminadorError: 'ppa.launchpad.net/efl/truck/ubuntu/' invalid04:09
holsteinExtreminador: thats *still* not the command i clearly pasted above that will add that ppa04:09
holsteinsudo add-apt-repository ppa:efl/trunk04:09
Extreminadorahh you said the exact example to use04:10
Extreminadorthouht it was a random example04:10
Extreminadoryehh it have work04:11
krzgah thunderbird search is fucking annoying04:11
krzcouldnt they have simplified this??04:11
Extreminadorwhy the launchpad (for example) is not needed ?04:11
Extreminadorthe launchpad part (i mean)04:12
holstein!language | krz04:12
ubottukrz: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional.04:12
holsteinExtreminador: its just the syntax for adding ppas04:12
Extreminadorhe is getting the right location (the link) to a repository of link's (ppa's links or whatever is called) ?04:15
holsteinExtreminador: if you added the ppa, its added.. "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" will bring your E17 to the current version04:17
Extreminadorups it's the dist-upgrade to use04:18
holsteinExtreminador: is that a question?04:18
Extreminadornaaaa... just an aclamation04:18
holstein"dist-upgrade" does *not* upgrade the distrobution04:19
Extreminadorbecause i did use the update... and them the apt.get install e1704:19
holsteinExtreminador: you dont need to install E17, since you have already installed it04:19
Extreminadorwell not sure if it was because of the install use or not but after the dist-upgrade it have said to use apt-get -f install to correct some dependencys found04:20
Extreminadorhumm lool not working now the en17... can´t log on...04:22
aztecwarriorHey guys, I have a weird situation that I don't know how to explain. I installed AMD drivers and now one of my folders looks weird. No idea what caused it or how to fix it. Any help would be appreciated. http://i.imgur.com/H9p9Kti.png04:22
Extreminadorno error given04:23
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Extreminadorwell but tomorrow i will continue with this04:24
Extreminadorit's late... 5 am here04:24
Extreminadorthansk guys for you patiente with me and explanations04:24
Extreminadorsee you all04:25
aztecwarriorHey guys, I have a weird situation that I don't know how to explain. I installed AMD drivers and now one of my folders looks weird. No idea what caused it or how to fix it. Any help would be appreciated. http://i.imgur.com/H9p9Kti.png04:30
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HackerIIi didnt see a dif in any of them04:33
reisioaztecwarrior: looks weird how?04:33
exidosaztecwarrior, you can change the icon-theme in the systemcontrol04:34
the_dark_knightHi I am trying to install libpcap-dev using apt-get and I get this error - http://bpaste.net/show/KAPQAfR8b3rs5cCf4eiL/ . I don't understand what the problem is? please help04:34
dormitoIm trying to debug a program (ubuntu 12.10). however its chocking on a library call. Since its a dynamic link, is there a way that I can temporaroly have the program load different libs (specifically versions I built that were for debuging) rather than the standard ones ldconfig knows about04:34
aztecwarriorreisio, none of those files/folders are useable. if i double click the file/folder, the xubuntu has no idea what to do with the file/folder04:34
reisioaztecwarrior: the .txt files?04:35
reisiothe_dark_knight: did you try what it said to?04:35
aztecwarriorreisio, yes, also the folders. i'm uploading another image04:35
the_dark_knightreisio: yes. same error04:36
aztecwarriorreisio, http://i.imgur.com/MCEwBFa.png04:36
reisioaztecwarrior: I'm not sure there's anything out of the ordinary with random files that haven't extensions confusing the file manager; you saying just recently this was not the case?04:38
diegothinkpadhello04:38
exidosthe_dark_knight, try this "sudo apt-get install libpcap0.8-dev"04:38
diegothinkpadanybody here04:39
aztecwarriorreisio, correct. the folders were working fine and so were the files. after installing the amd drivers only this folder looks like this.04:39
exidosand then do execute your command again @ the_dark_knight04:39
exidosyes, we are here, diegothinkpad04:39
gardonthe_dark_knight, try "sudo apt-get -f install" first04:39
diegothinkpadthanks so i see my ubuntu is working correctly04:40
exidosgardon, he did it, but "-f" doesn't do it04:40
the_dark_knightexidos: gardon yes. i get the same error04:41
reisioaztecwarrior: can you remount that filesystem?04:41
exidosthe_dark_knight, with "-f" or with the command i gave you?04:41
aztecwarriorreisio, that "shit" folder is on zfs. i wasn't sure if exporting and them importing might solve the problem. i've been using zfs for a long time now and haven't had any problems.04:42
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the_dark_knightexidos: with both04:43
exidosthe_dark_knight, okay, one moment pls04:43
Anom01ywhy does my computer get extremely slow and screwy whenever I need to do a kernel update or other major updates ?04:44
Anom01ynvidia update also04:44
reisioaztecwarrior: I'll call this more of a hiccup, even if remounting "solves" it04:44
reisioAnom01y: because it's old04:44
Anom01yreisio, so hackers are attacking my system ?04:45
Anom01ybecause I just saw the update today,  and my computer was very slow, until I did the update and reset the computer04:45
reisionot sure I see the connection :)04:46
aztecwarriorreisio, so i exported the zfs mount and reimported and didn't solve the issue. i'll have to learn to backup more often.04:47
aztecwarriorreisio, thanks for your input04:47
exidosthe_dark_knight, http://packages.debian.org/de/sid/libcap2 install this04:48
exidosthe_dark_knight, then you have all dependencies04:48
reisioaztecwarrior: mmm, well, that's worth learning, but it could still be a simple issue04:48
reisioaztecwarrior: you might see what all got installed with your amd update04:48
DrekiCan someone explain the difference between nvidia-319 and nvidia-319-updates? Is nvidia-319-updates some way of upgrading from a lower package version? and will it only upgrade the former stable or will it also upgrade thee experimental-310 i had installed?04:48
ChogyDanDreki: did you install from a ppa?04:49
DrekiChogyDan: I installed nvidia-experimental-310 from a ppa yes04:49
the_dark_knightexidos: thanks.04:50
ChogyDanDreki: then I think you need to use the ppa-purge utility04:50
exidosthe_dark_knight, np04:50
ChogyDanDreki: and no, -updates is just later released versions of the driver I assume, those after the formal ubuntu testing cycle04:50
DrekiChogyDan: thanks04:52
the_dark_knightexidos: sorry to bother again. do you have a link to libcap 2.20 not 2.22. installing from your link gives error when i did - make04:54
marzI was wondering about the command "tar -zxvf (file name)" that is used to extract .tar.gz files. Regarding the option "-z" which uses gzip to uncompress the file and "-x" to extract it from archive. Aren't uncompressing and extracting the same thing?04:55
Biaframarz: in the case of tar, not really...04:56
Biafrathe -z flag basically tells tar to send the tar.gz file through g(un)zip first before tar\04:56
Biafrait's basically a timesaver to use instead of pipes, > signs, stdout, and cat04:57
exidosthe_dark_knight, http://mirror.linux.org.au/linux/libs/security/linux-privs/libcap2/04:57
ChogyDanmarz: tar strings the files together, gzip compresses just a single file, ie, the single file that tar creates04:58
exidosthe_dark_knight, remove the other package first!04:58
marzChogyDan: Oh, so the tar command/application basically groups the files together in an archive, then the gzip compresses it to make it smaller05:00
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goddardwhats a good memory testing program?05:02
the_dark_knightexidos: gives error while make - /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lattr05:02
wilee-nileegoddard, There is one in the grub men eu and live cd's05:02
wilee-nileegood is an opinion05:03
exidosthe_dark_knight, i had the same problem a long time ago. I did'nt know how I fixed it.05:04
goddardwilee-nilee: maybe thats what i want05:04
DooshDroid hello05:04
DooshDroidI installed Linux mint over win 7 and now I'm just getting grub rescue05:04
exidosthe_dark_knight, google a deb package for the libcap05:04
xangua!mint | DooshDroid05:05
ubottuDooshDroid: Linux Mint is not a supported derivative of Ubuntu. Please seek support in #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org05:05
wilee-nileegoddard, Then what is good for you is good for you, you are not new to this channel it does not work that way. ;)05:05
goddardwilee-nilee: ya ya i am so tired of hearing people say this05:05
exidosthe_dark_knight, look into the debian doku or wiki of the package and his dependencies05:05
the_dark_knightexidos: okay. thanks05:08
helmut_hi05:09
ChogyDangoddard: I think all the programs run the same tests.  You may want to look into which test is the good one05:09
adamsilverwhich version of oracle java i should install at this time?05:10
ChogyDanadamsilver: yes?05:11
adamsilverChogyDan: what do you mean05:11
exidosadamsilver, the newest dude05:12
xanguaadamsilver: java.com offers the latest if that is what you ask05:12
ChogyDanadamsilver: just install the latest.05:13
ChogyDanadamsilver: or maybe just use the open source one till you really need the oracle version05:13
exidosChogyDan & adamsilver for chats the oracle is in the most cases needed ;)05:14
adamsilverChogyDan: I really need the oracle version actually05:14
adamsilverI am confused by java.com options, what is the difference between RPM and the other05:15
exidosadamsilver, you need deb ;)05:15
exidosadamsilver, these are the different package container05:15
wilee-nilee!java05:15
ubottuTo just use java you need a "Java Runtime Environment" (JRE) and/or a browser plugin. If that is not sufficient you will need a "Java Development Kit" (JDK) aka "Software  Development Kit" (SDK).  Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java about how to install one of three current implementations.05:15
wilee-nileeadamsilver, ^^^^^ the open source and oracles are not any diffrfenet in some versions05:16
wilee-nileedifferent05:16
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ChogyDanim pretty sure there are oracle 7 debs05:17
wilee-nileeand 805:17
exidostrue true05:17
ChogyDanadamsilver: https://launchpad.net/~webupd8team/+archive/java05:17
ChogyDanwilee-nilee: that java page just isn't up to date05:18
adamsilverok, so oracle-java7-installer is the latest version, correct?05:18
ChogyDanno, I guess 8 is.  I'm out of date in that regard  :)05:18
latakuweird, somehow can't get utf8 working in xterm screen, with screen -U05:19
latakumy terminal is set to utf805:19
adamsilverChogyDan: this where I am confused. I saw 8 somewhere but the docs you guys referred me to contains the instructions for 6 and 7 only05:19
adamsilverhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java#Command_line_methods05:20
exidosadamsilver, 8 is just in developement, 7 is the latest version05:20
exidosadamsilver, Java 8 is like a "Beta", install the 7, this is the latest version of oracle java at the moment05:21
wilee-nileeChogyDan, the external links go straight to oracle and sdk, not exactly out of date that is a generalized comment, and it is info in some extent.05:21
exidosadamsilver, 32-Bit: jre-7uVERSION-linux-i586.tar.gz | 64-Bit: jre-7uVERSION-linux-x64.tar.gz05:21
ChogyDanwilee-nilee: yeah, it is late for me.  I stopped at the line that says, "there are no debs"05:22
adamsilverok, thanks guys05:22
wilee-nileeadamsilver, You have to research, this channel is part of that if your lucky. ;)05:23
Biafraadamsilver: 7u25 is the latest stable Oracle Java that is on webupd8team's PPA05:24
exidos jre-7u25-linux-i586 is the latest java of oracle05:24
exidos^^05:24
adamsilverwilee-nilee: I know, I just don't want to screw up the new installation I have been customizing since a few hours :)05:25
wilee-nileeadamsilver, Cool,05:25
Biafraalso, unless you're using something that requires Oracle Java (e.g., developing for Android), it's a tossup05:25
Biafraas to which is best between OpenJDK and Oracle Java05:25
adamsilverBiafra: I am using PyCharm for Python development and when I use OpenJDK I get a warning message saying I should use Oracle's Java05:27
Biafraadamsilver ... yeah, basically add the webupd8team/java ppa then update then install oracle-java7-installer05:30
adamsilverBiafra: it worked, thanks05:32
Biafraadamsilver ... excellent05:33
Kartagishttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution#Adding_undetected_resolutions <--- following this, how can I find out what my options for output are?05:37
ChogyDanKartagis: i think you need to look up the specs for your monitor05:38
KartagisChogyDan: I mean, there is S-output, VGA and so on. I'm talking about those05:38
saki`has anyone here ever worked with postgressql?05:39
wilee-nileesaki`, The channel works with you stating your issues for help.05:41
saki`oh okay05:43
saki`i'm trying to change the encoding for postgres sql databases from SQL_ASCII to UTF-805:44
saki`this is the only thing i've found that directly addresses it : http://jacobian.org/writing/pg-encoding-ubuntu/05:44
saki`but to do that the default locale on my server needs to be en_US.UTF-805:47
Squarismwhat is that "top" replacement called? ie better top05:48
reisioSquarism: htop?05:48
Squarismthat might be it05:49
saki`and sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales doesn't work05:49
Squarismtalking about better. There is a better version of traceroute to?05:49
Squarismor. i know there is but cant remember the name05:49
Squarismmtr it was05:50
saki`ah05:59
reisioah06:00
DrekiSo i have been using nvidia-experimental-310 and have had great success. Is nvidia-319 a newer driver than nvidia-experimental-310 and if so should i consider switching? Am i likely to get better FPS?06:04
Kartagishttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution#Adding_undetected_resolutions <--- following this, how can I find out what my options for output are?06:06
KartagisI mean, there is S-output, VGA and so on. I'm talking about those06:07
BiafraDreki - Yeah, it's newer. I'm not sure about FPS though since I'm using Radeon06:07
uronuhello guys, I want to install an ubuntu desktop client with already a netbeans application or other apps in it. No need to download from the internet.  I mean when installation the application is installed also. Any idea or how can we done it?06:12
uronumirror?06:13
A1ReconAs per the man page of ping command -a gives an Audible Ping. So I guess the PC should make a sound when a ping is successful, right? But when I type this "ping -a www.google.com" in the terminal, the pings are successful but I don't hear any sound.06:42
A1Recon1660 participants and the #ubuntu is a ghost town.... ODD06:45
reisioalmost 3am06:46
reisiofor some reason people leave IRC on all the time06:46
nevynit is not 3am06:47
reisioit's not 4am, either06:47
reisioA1Recon: what term are you using?06:48
smeraldo94Ciaooo06:48
smeraldo94!list06:48
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reisioA1Recon: also what I'm reading here suggests it makes a sound when it starts pinging after previously failing06:49
A1Reconreisio: The terminal that comes in with Ubuntu 13.04..... There are types of terminals? I knew about Cygwin for Windows but I didn't know there are different kinds of Terminals for Ubuntu...06:49
reisioA1Recon: sure, there are hundreds probably06:50
Xentinelanyone here using VMware workstation?06:50
reisioA1Recon: see what happens if you disconnect physically from your network, run ping -a www.yahoo.com, then reconnect06:50
reisioXentinel: probably someone does06:51
Xentinelreisio, probably yes, I'm having some annoying stability problems with running a Windows VM in it06:52
A1Reconreisio: Maybe the command works only if there's a piezo speaker on the Motherboard. But then piezo speakers are an old thing, I guess. And I don't think laptops have them.06:52
tasslehoffCan the super+<number> shortcuts that open applications be disabled?06:53
reisioA1Recon: if echo -e '\a' doesn't work, ping -a probably won't06:55
reisioin truth, most people hate beeping computers06:55
reisiothe fake beeper is probably disabled by default these days06:55
reisioA1Recon: modprobe pcspkr ?06:56
A1Reconreisio: i ran the ping -a command first and then disconnected the LAN and reconnected.... no sounds06:56
reisioA1Recon: I'd just use && mplayer path/to/sound/file06:56
reisioor, more likely, && killall mplayer06:56
reisiosince I'm usually already listening to music06:57
reisioor less dramatically: amixer sset Master toggle06:57
reisiobut there are other approaches (that I wouldn't bother with :p) http://www.gentoo-wiki.info/HOWTO_Virtual_PC_Speaker06:57
A1Reconreisio: Thanks for the info and the help... I will  try this thing later....06:58
reisio:)07:00
grahamsavage_ok.. i'm having huge lagging problems in chrome every day07:09
grahamsavage_i'm running latest version, 0 plugins07:09
grahamsavage_it's like the whole tab freezes07:09
grahamsavage_for a few seconds and i can't do anything.. i've also reset my profile07:09
lotuspsychjegrahamsavage_: did you try an uninstall07:10
grahamsavage_nah, i suppose i could try that next07:10
lotuspsychjegrahamsavage_: firefox running fine?07:11
lotuspsychjegrahamsavage_: or start chrome from terminal to see whats happening maybe07:11
grahamsavage_yeah it's still slow (as in the internet)07:11
grahamsavage_but the window doesn't lock up like it does in chrome07:11
grahamsavage_i've started from terminal.. no errors07:12
lotuspsychjegrahamsavage_: you have slow connection?07:12
grahamsavage_yeah, slow connection and very slow dns07:12
grahamsavage_1.5mb bandwidth but high latency07:12
lotuspsychjegrahamsavage_: did you try on a fast wifi in your neighbourhood if chrome still lags?07:12
grahamsavage_there's no such thing :D07:13
lotuspsychjegrahamsavage_: you live in the desert? :p07:13
grahamsavage_China :D07:14
grahamsavage_the only place where having a business class fibre-optic connection means nothing :)07:14
Biafraouch... probably the golden shower... err... shield project07:14
wilee-nileegrahamsavage_, Purge it and remove it from .config, save the bookmarks first then reinstall.07:14
lotuspsychjegrahamsavage_: well i presume your chrome lags comes from lowband internet07:14
grahamsavage_lotuspsychje: yeah but this is the software lagging07:15
grahamsavage_even if the pictures take a while to download07:15
Biafragrahamsavage_, have you tried using the beta or dev version of chrome?07:15
grahamsavage_doesn't mean it should lock up the whole window07:15
lotuspsychjelol07:15
grahamsavage_Biafra: no.. but my theory is if they haven't got it working in the last 4 months.. then they won't any time soon07:15
Ov3rloadhi, i'm getting lag spikes with my wifi, any idea on how to solve? https://gist.github.com/Ov3rlo4d/c779007e2bf93d137961#file-lag_spikes07:16
grahamsavage_Biafra: i hate these kinds of errors.. i much prefer big ugly error message with a code07:16
wilee-nileegrahamsavage_, Have you checked the net speed?07:16
grahamsavage_wilee-nilee: like i said.. netspeed (throughput) is actually quite fast07:17
grahamsavage_comparativly... but DNS is pretty shocking07:17
grahamsavage_but the issue is not the dns lookup speed on the download speed.. it's the fact that the entire chrome tabs will lock up07:17
grahamsavage_all the time every day.. and it's enormously frustrating07:17
grahamsavage_ohh yeah key point.. doesn't happen in  OSX or Windows07:17
Biafragrahamsavage_, check your plugins07:18
grahamsavage_Biafra; 0 plugins, latest version, blank profile07:18
BiafraThen try beta or dev channel07:18
grahamsavage_ok07:19
Biafrastart with dev07:19
grahamsavage_is it call chroem canary?07:19
grahamsavage_chrome*07:19
Biafrait will give you an inside peek into the next version, which you would not get for six week on stable...07:19
Biafrachecking...07:20
grahamsavage_ sudo apt-get install google-chrome-unstable07:20
Biafragrahamsavage_, exactly07:21
lotuspsychjeOv3rload: seems like bad url, whats your chipset?07:23
pakkohi07:24
Ov3rloadlotuspsychje: the url is good, github just went down. My card is this: Atheros Communications, Inc. TP-Link TL-WN821N v3 802.11n [Atheros AR7010+AR9287]07:25
Ov3rloadlotuspsychje: using ath9k_htc07:25
reisiohi pakko07:25
lotuspsychjeOv3rload: default driver from install? what happens exactly with wifi, disconnects?07:26
Ov3rloadlotuspsychje: yes default drivers. If i ping my router i normally ping about 1-2 ms, but occasionally about 5 pings in a row go up to ~400 ms07:27
_45h_hey, guys, i made btsync repository http://btsync.blindage.org/ for automatic updates07:27
kofildhaha, great, i joined irc to ask a question, while i set up my irc client, i forgot what the Q was07:28
lotuspsychjeOv3rload: on what version of ubuntu?07:28
_45h_btsync is a bittorrent sync http://labs.bittorrent.com/experiments/sync/other-download.html07:28
_45h_something like dropbox, but useful07:28
Ov3rloadlotuspsychje: 13.04, kernel 3.8.0-27-generic07:28
lotuspsychje_45h_: better share in offtopic mate07:28
lotuspsychjeOv3rload: did your issue happen on previous versions of ubuntu?07:29
Ov3rloadlotuspsychje: yeah, i thinks so, but not really sure07:31
Ov3rloadlotuspsychje: i'm noticing the problem now because i'm dealing with real time data stream, and a 400ms lag spikes are a bit disruptive07:31
lotuspsychjeOv3rload: maybe this can help: http://itsfoss.com/speed-up-slow-wifi-connection-ubuntu/07:32
mweideleexit07:34
lotuspsychjehmm seems like the atheros link on !wifi trigger is a bit outdated07:36
goddardhow can i tweak my refresh rate?07:41
kofildOh, yes, i remembered! OK guys, just one question. When i install ubuntu, and leave it to partition the disk however it wants itself, how much of diskspace goes for the system? and how much for swap?07:47
ejvit will probably ask you07:49
lotuspsychjekofild: as much as your needs07:49
lotuspsychje!swap | kofild07:50
ubottukofild: swap is used to move unused programs and data out of main memory to make your system faster. It can also be used as extra memory if you don't have enough. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq for more info07:50
kofildI understand i can set it, but when i choose the default option for installer to do it itself, how much does it leave by default? Or it varies depending on your hardware?07:50
lotuspsychjekofild: for the hd there a minimum for ubuntu, not sure how many again think 6gig07:50
kofildOK, let me put it this way, i see i bring confusion unintendedly. i have a 500GB disk, how much will it take for a / partition?07:51
lotuspsychjekofild: you wanna use ubuntu on full hd?07:52
kofildlotuspsychje yes. i don't dual boot.07:52
lotuspsychjekofild: as much as possible then, and leave 2gig for swap07:53
atLANtishello guys07:53
lotuspsychjekofild: more easy is the option let ubuntu fill the hd in install07:53
kofildthe reason i'm asking is because o don't want to partition myself just in case i don't mess up anything07:54
kofildso i'd like ubiquity to do it itself07:54
kofildbut want to know if it takes atleast 20 gigs07:54
lotuspsychjekofild: sure07:54
kofildso i definitely have enough07:54
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kofildspace07:54
kofildfor functioning07:54
lotuspsychjekofild: i would use whole hd by install itself07:54
kofildoh, is that the default option?07:55
lotuspsychjeatLANtis: welcome mate, what can we do for you07:55
atLANtishi lotuspsychje07:55
atLANtisthanks07:55
lotuspsychjekofild: no thats not the default, you can dualboot,upgrade, use full hd, manually partition..07:56
kofildOK, i'll try to check it in ubiquity07:56
kofildthanks lotuspsychje:07:57
lotuspsychjekofild: np mate07:57
atLANtislotuspsychje, I'm having a lot of "system error" problems, was hoping someone could help me figure out what in my system is the problem07:58
lotuspsychjeatLANtis: if you share us your details we can surely help you07:58
kofildYeah, i wouldn't be me if i wouldn't forget something. Does Chromium update automatically in Precise, like Firefox?07:59
lotuspsychjekofild: if you have installed chromium, it will update with auto updates yes08:00
lotuspsychje!info chromium | kofild08:00
kofildlotuspsychje: again, thank you very much for your time and answer!08:00
ubottukofild: Package chromium does not exist in raring08:00
lotuspsychjehmm08:00
lotuspsychje!find chromium08:00
ubottuFound: chromium-browser, chromium-browser-dbg, chromium-browser-l10n, chromium-bsu, chromium-bsu-data, chromium-chromedriver, chromium-codecs-ffmpeg, chromium-codecs-ffmpeg-dbg, chromium-codecs-ffmpeg-extra, chromium-codecs-ffmpeg-extra-dbg (and 3 others) http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=chromium&searchon=names&suite=raring&section=all08:00
lotuspsychjeah08:00
kofildubottu: i won't use raring.08:00
ubottukofild: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)08:00
nachoLogI have installed 13.04 desktop over 10 times on different laptops. every time after the initial "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade" or software update from Ubuntu software center. The PC will not shutdown. when i try to restart EVERYTIME it just goes into like a suspend mode. and every time i have to manually power off. then on restart Ubuntu checks disk for errors and then boots up fine. what is going on here?08:00
kofildWAT08:01
kofild:D08:01
kofildi have no idea what just happened :D08:01
lotuspsychjekofild: just install chromium on your system after install, doesnt come by default08:01
nachoLogafter the initial softare update after a clean install from live usb am i supposed to get that suspend mode? is that the os reconfiguring or something after update? I have waited over 45 minutes before and nothing. and this happens every time i update after a clean install. what is this ? everyone must have this too right ?08:04
atLANtislotuspsychje, thanks a lot. here: I'm running ubuntu 13.04 x64 on a Fujitsu UH572.  Currently only have 32GB of drive because had HDD corruption, using only the onboard SSD 4now. Everytime I boot, I get a system error. During 6 hours of work it's probable that I'll get 6 system errors. And often, the whole thing just freezes up and I have to force restart... Hope u could point me in the right direction.08:04
lotuspsychjeatLANtis: what kind of system errors are we talking about?08:05
lotuspsychjeatLANtis: can you check your logs at /var/log/syslog.1 ?08:05
wilee-nileenachoLog, how many different laptops?08:05
nachoLogthree08:06
atLANtislotuspsychje, the errors have no clarification whatsoever, they only offer the option to submit report to ubuntu08:06
lotuspsychjeatLANtis: normally you can detail those errors, pastebin them into channel here might be usefull08:06
wilee-nileenachoLog, Are they perchance the same manufacturer, any similarities, what you describe never happens here is all, and some just do not suspend correctly or hibernate.08:07
lotuspsychjeatLANtis: did to set IDE to AHCI in bios for your ssd?08:07
gradianthmm08:07
Gorgorothhi08:07
Gorgorothi have a question08:07
atLANtislotuspsychje, thanks will do. I meant to say the Error Popups didin't have any info whatsoever08:07
ironhalikDid I just saw ubuntu telling me my wireless mouse is low on power?!08:08
nachoLogwilee-nilee: its after the intial updates that when i restart it it goes into a gray screen suspend type mode and just sits there and wont power down. and when i restart the pc it checks disk for errors, but after that it never happens again. everytime its just after that initial update. so i am wondering if i am su[ossed to wait longer for it to shut down? is it thinking ? lol.08:08
ironhalikwhat the08:08
lotuspsychjeatLANtis: a tail -f /var/log/syslog.1 can show you interesting stuff in realtime aswell (from terminal)08:08
nachoLogwilee-nilee: i have waited almost an hour before08:08
atLANtislotuspsychje, I'm not sure - any way I can check without rebooting?08:08
Moony22whoops sorry08:09
lotuspsychjeatLANtis: did your fujitsu have another Os using uefi before?08:09
wilee-nileenachoLog, Problem here in actually getting to the bottom is specificities, there are a lot of possible variables, so all one can do is knock them out/08:09
lotuspsychjeatLANtis: no, if its bios, you need reboot and enter08:10
nachoLogwilee-nilee: what i mean is like with windows after a big update you know how it takes a while for it to shut down. am i interupting a process by manually powering down there?08:10
gradiantnachoLog: I definitely wouldn't hit the power button while its installing updates?08:11
nachoLoggradiant: no no its after the upodates on reboot i get stuck in gray screen08:11
nachoLoggradiant: and only the first big round of updates after clean install08:12
wilee-nileenachoLog, and the graphic cards are? Do you install any drivers outside the repos?08:12
atLANtislotuspsychje: yeah, came with Win8. I should have mentioned this before, but I had to reinstall Win8 about 7 times before I decided to go with Ubuntu. Turned out, the HD was corrupted, which seemed to be the root of all those problems. I08:12
emurillo510_2hey i have a question, if i switch to ubuntu will my battery life be as bad as windows 7? i have a thinkpad x22008:12
gradiantnachoLog: oh, weird, sorry08:13
lotuspsychje!uefi | atLANtis08:13
ubottuatLANtis: UEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware, it is meant as a replacement for the BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI08:13
nachoLogwilee-nilee: no just the sudo apt-get update && upgrade08:13
deepfunkhey all08:13
wilee-nileeemurillo510_2, slightly worse probably, battery binaries are not provided for linux in general.08:13
emurillo510_2slightly worse as in a coupe hours? or mins08:14
wilee-nileenachoLog, Hard to say, all I can do is repeat that exacting details are the key here.08:14
deepfunki have a question that concerns the software center on ubuntu 13.408:14
ntzrmtthihu777Heyo, bit of an issue. running ubuntu 13.04, occasionally I get kicked back to the login screen, any info on debugging? what logs should I look at?08:15
nachoLogwilee-nilee: i know but this has been one thorn in my side from the begining and it is EVERYTIME i mean every install on three laptops over maybe 20 installs08:15
wilee-nileeemurillo510_2, Hard to say, you have not even shred the actual time they last now and we can't accuratelty estimate that08:15
wilee-nileeshared*08:15
emurillo510_2ic08:16
nachoLogwilee-nilee: unetbootin live usb from hash sum checked iso everytime after the initial updtes like i said when i reboot the pc wont shut down just gray screen08:16
deepfunkhey?08:16
emurillo510_2thanks08:16
k1l_!details | deepfunk08:16
ubottudeepfunk: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."08:16
atLANtislotuspsychje: wow. thanks a lot! I didnt know there were so many extra checkpoints to setting it up. I literally haven't touched anything in the BIOS. Will do now.08:17
nachoLogwilee-nilee: and every single time i have to manually power off , and then on restart ubuntu checks disk for errors then boots up fine and never another issue. its just a glitch that is driving me crazy08:17
deepfunkI have a problem with ubuntu software center, i'm running ubuntu 13.04. When i try tio download tor through it, the dowload stops and it won't let me download anything else or stop the download08:18
nachoLogwilee-nilee: anyway i was hoping to hear that this was at least a common issue. if not then something bad is goin on here in my little world08:20
k1l_deepfunk: try using apt-get and look out for error messages08:21
deepfunkcan't i stop the download?08:22
nachoLogi have a core i7 intel processor. how come every time i install 13.04 desktop 64 x86 distro. when i look at "about his computer" under "os type" is always says 32 bit? what is that?08:23
wilee-nileedeepfunk, stopping downloads in general cause problems, and may be the root of this one.08:24
ntzrmtthihu777deepfunk: this is why I use apt-get08:24
deepfunki tried using apt get but it wont do08:24
wilee-nileedeepfunk, And wont do means?08:25
k1l_deepfunk: so you did install a .deb package?08:25
jamescarrhow can I kill an upstart service that claims to be running when the process under it has exited?08:25
reisiojamescarr: how've you tried?08:25
mcnesiumi am trying to start screens via crontab using @reboot /home/mcnesium/bin/startscreen.sh - this works, but the screens obviously do not use my environment variables. what can i do about it? when i start the script manually, eveything is ok since i am using the variables as well. can i say to use them in the shellscript, so that they get used when started automatically by cron?08:26
jamescarrreisio: I have tried sudo service xxxx stop08:26
jamescarrit hangs08:26
jamescarrI need to force stop it so I can restart it08:26
jamescarrI tried sudo service docker-registry restart, it also hangs08:26
nachoLogis Unetbootin can not install a 64 bit OS or something? both my laptops say that under "os type' is 32 bit but the ISo's i downloaded are hsh sum checked as 64 bit distro.. am i going crazy ?08:30
BiafranachoLog, run uname -a08:30
Biafracheck the output for amd64 and/or x86_6408:30
nachoLog3.8.0-29-generic #42-Ubuntu SMP Tue Aug 13 23:12:18 UTC 2013 i686 i686 i686 GNU/Linux08:31
nachoLogbut the distros were i386 right /08:31
nachoLoghow can this be?08:32
BiafranachoLog, are you certain the isos were for the 64-bit versions?08:32
nachoLogyes08:32
nachoLogvery much yes08:32
Biafrahow did you download them08:32
nachoLoghash sum checked from Untu releaes raring08:32
nachoLogBiafra: i download fro mthe Ubuntu releases everytime08:33
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BiafraI mean, did you download directly from ubuntu.com?08:33
Biafraor via some other means?08:33
nachoLogBiafra: from ubuntu08:35
Biafrahmmm... have you tried using Pendrive Linux?08:35
nachoLogreleases.ubuntu.com/raring08:36
nachoLogBiafra: no i have not08:36
kenshiroHi, what's the scheduled hour for 12.04.3 point release? The web page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack is still not upgraded08:36
nachoLogi always choosed the PC(INtelx86) desktop image08:37
nachoLogBiafra: so i should try Pendrive Linux then yes08:38
nachoLogBiafra: maybe its Unetbootin the culprit08:38
BiafraIn all likelihood nachoLog08:38
BiafraIf that doesn't work, then try borrowing a friend's external DVD drive08:39
Biafraassumuming yours has problems, nachoLog08:39
nachoLogBiafra: i need an ultrabse for the thinkpad yes08:39
nachoLogBiafra: maybe its Unetbootin the culpritwhole house is the blu ray on my ps308:40
wilee-nileekenshiro, aug 22nd time who knows.08:40
xintronWhere are ufw storing the forward rules that users added?08:40
IncreaseHello everyone.08:40
nachoLogBiafra: oops .. i mean the only opticla drive i have is on my ps3 .. anywya i will try Pendrive Linux and see if that workd08:41
IncreaseI'm curious if anyone has used win32 to install live USBs08:41
Biafrakenshiro, 22 August, give or take a week08:41
wilee-nileeIncrease, Why would you?08:41
IncreaseIt keeps blocking my USB and making me reformat using bootice08:42
nachoLogBiafra: could the issue be that i am running a 64 bit os but it just says that under os type i am on 32?08:42
nachoLogoh wai tno because the output of uname -a08:42
wilee-nileeIncrease, There are handfuls of usb loaders.08:42
atLANtislotuspsychje, All of the options you and the Ubuntu help page mentioned are disabled in my BIOS... :(08:42
Biafranacholog, the output of uname -a shows you are using a 32-bit OS08:42
Increasewilee-nilee that's what the kali-linux tutorial says to install with08:43
nachoLogBiafra: how could that be is so crazy08:43
wilee-nileeIncrease, kali is not supported here.08:43
Biafrathe only thing I can think of is that you may have accidentally downloaded the 32-bit ISO08:43
nachoLoghow could i get a 32 bit os from a verified 64 bit iso08:43
lotuspsychjeatLANtis: ok mate i would focus on future errors, pastebin them in channel for more specific help08:43
nachoLogBiafra: let me try getting the iso from ubuntu.com and not the releases.ubuntu.com instead...08:43
BiafranachoLog, Who knows? To be on the safe side, delete your current ISO and download from ubuntu.com/download08:44
BiafraMake sure you select 64-bit, nachoLog08:44
Biafrafrom the dropdown08:44
nachoLogBiafra: yep here we go again.. this will be my umpteenth install. bbl08:46
Increase_Blah08:47
josephtacosis the a new way to enable mod_rewrite in apache2.4.6? on ubuntu 13.1008:47
lotuspsychje!13.10 | josephtacos08:47
ubottujosephtacos: Ubuntu 13.10 (Saucy Salamander) will be the 19th release of Ubuntu. Announcement: http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1252 - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+108:47
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kenshirowilee-nilee Biafra ok, thank you! :-)08:47
wilee-nileesure08:48
atLANtislotuspsychje: thanks...  there it is -> http://pastebin.com/cMUraRrx08:48
david_j_rAnyone able to tell me how to get Windows share drives (which I can browse fine in Nautilus) into the system's "Places" menu on 13.04?08:49
Increasehttp://docs.kali.org/installation/kali-linux-live-usb-install states to use win-32 disc imager08:50
IncreaseI've tried pendrive linux and linuxlive USB and they didn;t work.08:51
DJonesIncrease: Thats for Kali, this channel only supports Ubuntu, you're probably better going to the Kali channel and asking them08:51
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IncreaseI've never joined their channel08:52
DJones!kali08:52
ubottuThere are some Ubuntu derivatives that we cannot provide support for due to repository and software changes. Please consult their websites for more information. Examples: gNewSense (support in #gnewsense), Linux Mint (see !mint), kali-linux (#kali-linux), CrunchBang (support in #crunchbang), BackTrack (support in #backtrack-linux)08:52
IncreaseAnd it says I'm banned08:52
DJonesIncrease: If you join #freenode, the people there should be able to advise you who to contact in the kali channel to sort that out08:53
AcidRain2012Increase, thats because at one point a non registered user got glined08:53
Increaseglined?08:54
AcidRain2012Increase, i have that issue in every channel except #ubuntu08:54
IncreaseAnd thanks DJ ones08:54
AcidRain2012Increase, ban08:54
IncreaseAhh, gotcha08:54
AcidRain2012Increase, /ns register help08:54
IncreaseThanks for the help guys08:54
IncreaseI registered this nick08:54
IncreaseBut I can still talk with it even if I don't identify08:55
IncreaseI don't really get how it helps.08:55
k1l_Increase: for problems with other channels ask their op team or #freenode08:55
k1l_we cant help on that08:55
Increasek08:57
NK`is it normal that private bug on launchpad appears as if the page doesn't exist ?08:58
NK`or does that mean the bug have been removed ?08:58
reisiowhat's a private bug?08:58
NK`a bug flaged as "private"08:58
NK`flagged*08:58
IncreaseHey guys, why can't you install stuff untill you do sudo apt-get update08:59
IncreaseIt's annoying having to update everytime on live08:59
auronandaceIncrease: the repos have to be in sync08:59
Increaserepos?09:00
NK`repository09:00
auronandaceIncrease: why are you using a live system then? why not do an install?09:00
IncreaseGotcha09:00
IncreaseStill getting the hang of it09:00
IncreaseAnd I heard you can fuck you system up if you don't install correctly with windows09:00
reisioNK`: and that doesn't have anything to do with whether one can view it or not?09:00
auronandace!language | Increase09:00
ubottuIncrease: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional.09:00
IncreaseSorrrrrry09:00
auronandaceIncrease: partitioning is really easy when you know how09:01
NK`reisio: that's exactly what i'm wondering09:01
reisioNK`: :)09:02
Increaseauronandace ... I basically just said I don't know how. Lol09:02
NK`actually it's been the second time i report a bug which is automatically marked as a duplicate09:02
reisioNK`: what's the URI?09:02
reisioah, well that happens09:02
HuriachiHey #ubuntu, is anyone aware of a way to enable the cursor on a device with only a touch-screen input?09:02
NK`but the duplicate is marked as private09:02
ntzrmtthihu777auronandace: yep, but best way to do it is windows first, yeah?09:02
auronandacentzrmtthihu777: indeed09:02
NK`but when i click on the private bug the answer is the same as if the bug doesn't exist, which is confusing09:03
ntzrmtthihu777Huriachi: should have one... I got a touch device and it has a cursor when I use that.09:03
auronandace!partitioning | Increase09:03
ubottuIncrease: For help with partitioning a new install see: https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/installation-guide/i386/partitioning.html - For partitioning programs see !GParted, !QtParted (!Kubuntu 8.10 and lower) or !PartitionManager (!Kubuntu 9.04 and up) - Other partitioning topics include !fstab !home and !swap09:03
reisioHuriachi: check the theme09:03
NK`why would a bug be private anyway except for security reason ?09:03
Huriachintzrmtthihu777: I'll quickly give that a try.09:04
auronandaceIncrease: as always, when it comes to partitioning there is a risk so you should have backups (which is best practise anyway)09:04
draskohi all my SD Card reader does not detect SD card inserted. Dmesg shows nothing09:05
draskowhere to investigate?09:05
Increase!tails09:06
draskoany ideas?09:06
IncreaseAnyone know if tails is still in development?09:06
Huriachireisio: Okay, the theme does not make a difference. When I connect my mouse from my PC the cursor appears, but promptly vanishes when it is removed.09:07
rafsalve09:07
reisioIncrease: plenty of other such live OSes if it isn't09:07
auronandaceIncrease: what is it? what does it do?09:07
reisioraf: salvete09:07
raf!addon09:08
reisioHuriachi: when the mouse is removed?09:08
IncreaseTails is like ubuntu09:08
IncreaseIt's a linux distro09:08
auronandaceIncrease: we only deal with ubuntu here09:08
IncreaseI just asked a question man...09:08
auronandaceIncrease: if you want info on other distros try ##linux09:08
david_j_rAnyone willing/able to tell me how to get Windows share drives (which I can browse fine in Nautilus) into the system's "Places" menu on 13.04?09:09
yeehi I am trying to update the kernel. I fail with the following error message: unmet dependencies depends virtual package :  http://pastebin.com/66LduBtN09:09
k1l_Increase: this is a ubuntu support channel. i think we told you quite often now. we dont know what other distros or spinoffs changed so please ask them directly09:09
Huriachireisio: Yes. When a mouse is hot-plugged, the cursor is visible only while the mouse is still present in the USB slot.09:09
NK`reisio: one of the uri btw : https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/121500309:10
ubottuError: malone bug 1215003 not found09:10
reisioHuriachi: interesting09:10
reisioHuriachi: can you run 'pgrep -l unclutter' ?09:10
sec_what status of "retrieving file..."?09:12
sec_it's stoping long time..09:12
burghello. is ubuntu server 12.04.3 released and stable? is it safe to install it instead of 12.04.2 ?09:14
k1l_burg: it was released just today09:16
burgk1l_, i am trying to install it from usb stick just now, and at 'detect hardware' step it tells me that my installation cd-rom couldn't be mounted09:16
Huriachireisio: 'pgrep -l unclutter' does not return any running processes. I've also just noticed that the mouse is briefly present when Ubuntu starts up, or shuts down.09:16
reisiohrmmm, I wonder how they're disabling it09:17
reisioHuriachi: you might compare the output of 'ps aux' with and without the mouse inserted09:18
burgk1l_, and i got the image from here: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-server/precise/daily/current/ (which was updated 2 days ago, not today). and on the official download page there is still 12.04.2 version09:21
k1l_burg: that are not the stable releases09:21
gordonjcpburg: how are you creating the USB stick?09:22
burgk1l_, so where do i find the stable server 12.04.3 ?09:22
k1l_daily means its the daily development release09:22
burgusing unetbootin09:22
k1l_burg: the https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseSchedule says it will come today. then its not released yet09:22
k1l_burg: but you can install a 12.04.2 this will become a .3 with updates09:23
burgk1l_, the problem is that 12.04.2 doesn't have a driver for my network adapter, so i can't have an internet connection.09:24
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iclebytemorning.09:25
reisiomornin'09:25
david_j_rHi! Anyone willing/able to tell me how to get Windows share drives (which I can browse fine in Nautilus) into the system's "Places" menu on 13.04?09:26
ActionParsnipdavid_j_r: add it to bookmarks09:28
ActionParsnipdavid_j_r: cog menu on the top right of nautilus, if memory serves09:28
david_j_rActionParsnip: locations *are* bookmarked, but don't show up in *places* which is all you get in some dialogs.09:29
david_j_rHere's a screenshot to show difference: http://i.imgur.com/ow4hEoa.jpg09:29
david_j_rNautilus on left has bookmarks; "Save file" dialog from browser only has "Places".09:30
david_j_rSo you can't save download directly to shared drive. :S09:30
david_j_r(The "shared" bookmarks locations are the M: and U: locations on the left.)09:31
msqI join09:32
sec_wtf09:33
sec_it takes hour for installing language packs09:33
ZootyHey, am I able to install Windows 7 on one hard drive and Ubuntu on the other hard drive, then somehow choose between them at startup ?09:34
gordonjcpZooty: grub09:34
ZootyDo I install Windows 7, then Ubuntu over it? Or does it not matter?09:35
DJonesZooty: Yes, thats straight forward, install windows first, then Ubuntu09:35
ZootySo I could leave my current installation as it is now then just install Ubuntu on the other hard drive?09:35
DJonesZooty: Ubuntu will then install the grub bootloader which will let you select which operating system you want to start up09:35
ZootyOh thankyou!09:35
Huriachireisio: Nothing changes between the two 'ps aux' outputs.09:36
reisioHuriachi: the humanity09:39
reisioHuriachi: look around for a udev rule maybe09:39
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sec_hi09:41
sec_oh reisio09:41
Huriachireisio: I'll give that a go09:41
reisiosec_: ?09:42
sec_reisio: why install take much time?09:44
reisiosec_: how long is it taking?09:45
sec_reisio: more than 1hour till now09:46
reisiosec_: that sounds atypical09:47
sec_i don't choose download from internet but it's downloading packages....09:47
reisioah09:48
reisioyeah that's annoying09:48
reisioprobably the simplest way to avoid that is to install without a network connection :)09:48
blazemoreAlthough you'll still have to get the updates after installation09:49
sec_yes but feeling is importal09:49
blazemoreIt'll take longer because you will be installing the old versions and then downloading new versions as well09:50
blazemoreIf you just install them during the installation process, you won't have to redownload anything09:50
reisiobut he'll be able to use the OS while it's happening :)09:50
blazemorelonger in total, I mean09:50
blazemoreI suppose. Although in the time we've been discussing it they'd have finished anyway lol09:50
reisiomaybe for people othe than sec, anyways, heh09:51
sec_so this is not newest? ubuntu-12.04.2-desktop-i386.iso09:53
DJonessec_: It will be the newest iso, but there will still be updates since the iso was created09:53
AraneidaeHow can I serve my own DNS names for my local network with an Ubuntu server?09:54
DJonessec_: 12.04.2 was released on 14th February, so there will be a lot of updates since then09:54
AraneidaeI can install bind or I can use dnsmasq, I think, but configuring things right is eluding me...09:54
sec_DJones: so should update iso then, i lost more than 1hour dl iso, now need morethan 1hour wait download update :(09:54
babinlonstonNetwork error please verify my pstein09:55
babinlonstonpastein09:55
babinlonstonhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/6013465/09:55
babinlonstonhisto: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6013465/09:55
DJonessec_: I'd just be patient, 12.04.3 hasn't been released yet, so even if you redownloaded the iso, you'd then have to go through the updates09:55
AraneidaeFor instance, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Dnsmasq makes no mention of resolveconf, which is unfortunate as it thoroughly gets in the way09:56
babinlonstonconfigured br0 now br0 removed and i cant up the network09:56
DJonessec_: The iso's don't get updated everytime and updated piece of software gets added/released, they're only released about every 6 months09:56
sec_DJones: great. instalation complete now09:57
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Guest60599how can I connect a jack audio client...Could not connect to JACK server as client. - Overall operation failed. - Unable to connect to server09:58
sec_DJones: https://www.dropbox.com/s/6ny88sjsmjwrfj6/ufsk.png feeling confused10:00
DJonessec_: That looks like your graphics drivers still need to be installed/updated & configured, its not something I've had issues with10:01
Questhow much memory and processor does a fresh ubuntu/ kubuntu install _actually_ takes while idle?10:01
DJonessec_: Can you give details to the channel on what graphics card you have so that somebody can advise you better10:01
sec_DJones: i am using virtualbox10:02
sec_DJones: it's default by virtualbox config 4.2.16 imo10:03
DJonessec_: Thats definatly something I don't a lot about, I very rarely use it, hopefully somebody else here will be able to advise you10:03
NK`reisio: the origin bug : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-datetime/+bug/121531010:03
ubottuError: Could not gather data from Launchpad for bug #1215310 (https://launchpad.net/bugs/1215310). The error has been logged10:04
NK`hm10:04
NK`what's wrong with this bot10:04
DJonessec_: You could also join #vbox and ask there, thats a virtualbox support channel10:05
Guest60599I just want to use audio rec.10:06
Guest60599to make music10:07
AraneidaeHow do I tell my system which DNS nameservers to use?10:08
AraneidaeMore specifically (as /etc/resolv.conf has been taken over by resolvconf), how do I tell resolvconf?10:09
Guest60599using Qjack... how do I connect my self as a client?10:12
sec_DJones: should i try 13.4?10:14
AraneidaeWhere do upstart scripts live now?10:15
TylerWhitneyanybody here help me out with stunnel or point me to a good room to ask about it?10:15
Araneidae(Trying for really easy questions now)10:16
Guest60599is ubuntuStudio ok to make music?...10:16
DJonessec_: Was anybody able to help you in vbox? I'd try and get the problem sorted out rather than just changing versions10:16
sec_DJones: noone help...10:17
AraneidaeChannel seems witless at the moment :(10:17
DJonessec_: Give it a bit of time, maybe ask the question again in about 10-15 minutes10:18
blazemoreAraneidae: For the DNS thing, are you on a desktop or a server?10:18
DJonesGuest60599: Ubuntustudio is media based, the best people to speak to will be in their dedicated channel, #ubuntustudio10:18
Araneidaeblazemore, well, it's a lubuntu box set up as an HTPC, but it's going to have to stand in as a server for the time being10:19
cfhowlettGuest60599, come over to #ubuntustudio and restate the issue10:19
AraneidaeI'm currently trying to get dnsmasq set up, but I don't think I know what I'm doing yet...10:19
jpdsAraneidae: None of us do, actually.10:20
AraneidaeI'm sure that's true ;)10:20
AraneidaeHowever, we all know little fragments10:20
blazemoreAraneidae: look in /etc/dhcp/dhclient.conf10:20
AraneidaeIt looks like I need to configure all of network-manager, resolvconf, and dnsmasq10:20
Araneidaeblazemore, even though I'm setting up a static IP?10:21
blazemoreAraneidae: Yes10:21
AraneidaeAh, ok10:21
AraneidaeNot much there actually10:21
blazemoreAraneidae: I think the line is called "prepend domain server" or something10:21
AraneidaeOh, I see.  And there I can give it my domain name!10:22
blazemoreNo, that's for static DNS servers10:22
blazemorewhat ends up in /etc/resolv.conf10:22
TylerWhitneyI have installed stunnel4 with apt and then edited /etc/stunnel/stunnel.conf to my liking, but if I try to run stunnel /etc/stunnel/stunne.conf or simply stunnel stunnel.conf from that directory it still seems to be ignoring the conf file10:22
AraneidaeThanks.  Which bit do I restart after hacking this file?10:22
blazemoreAraneidae: networking10:22
blazemore!dns10:22
ubottuTo set up a Domain Name Service see the !serverguide - https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/C/dns.html10:22
blazemoreoh not that10:23
AraneidaeAh.  Yes, I need to configure that somewhere: I've put some entries in /etc/hosts, but I'd like them to resolve with my full local domain name10:23
blazemorethen you need to put "search example.com" in resolv.conf10:23
trindazhaving trouble with ssh tunnelling, is this the place for help with that?10:24
blazemore!ask10:24
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience10:24
Araneidaeblazemore, yes ... but alas resolvconf is in the way!10:24
* Araneidae curses the growing complexity of systems10:24
blazemoreAraneidae: there's /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/tail10:25
Araneidaeaha.  Ta.  Dammit, everything is scattered10:25
blazemoreman resolvconf10:25
trindazI have 3 computers - (1) is not allowed to talk to (3) but can talk to (2) and (2) can talk to (3) so I want to set up an SSH tunnel on (2) so that all requests to :3306 get forwarded straight to (3) which will let (1) talk to (3).10:25
trindazHow do I do that?10:25
trindazdo I need to log on to (2) and run a command?10:26
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ZorkyIm asking here, because it seems to be the easiest. Has anyone experienced a bug in unity where, when pressing the gear button top right corner. That you need to hold the mousebutton down in order to navigate the dropdown menu?10:26
BluesKajHi all10:27
jribtrindaz: well how do you intend to setup a tunnel on (2) without logging in at *some* point10:27
TylerWhitneyFYI I solved my own problem, "stunnel" is just a perl wrapper script to "stunnel4" and was therefore ignoring me specifying the conf file, when i simply used the stunnel4 command it resulted in what I expected -_- noob10:27
trindazi assumed I would need to - I've tried various combinations of ssh -L and ssh -R and I just don't understand what's what - I've read the man page a couple of times and I still don't ge tit10:28
Araneidaetrindaz: use `ssh -L 2222:host3:22 host2` and leave it running, then use `ssh -p 2222` locally to connect to host3 from host 1.10:28
AraneidaeThink there's a command line option to detach the first command10:28
jribtrindaz: you have two options, you can set up a tunnel (as Araneidae as given you a concrete example for) or you can just use ProxyCommand option with ssh10:28
Zorkyi would apriciate if people could answer me question. even tho you havent experienced the bug.10:29
eltigrehey, I have a problem with my signatures10:29
eltigreapt-get update says it can't download several signatures10:30
voltagexhi, I'm getting a black screen after GRUB when trying to boot a liveUSB via UEFI10:30
denkerHello when I am trying to make a new resolution in xrandr it just tells me this: X Error of failed request:  BadName (named color or font does not exist)   Major opcode of failed request:  140 (RANDR)   Minor opcode of failed request:  16 (RRCreateMode)   Serial number of failed request:  33   Current serial number in output stream:  33       what am I doind wrong?10:30
denkerI need to lower my monitors refresh rate btw10:31
denkerthat's what I am trying to do10:31
trindazaaah so it can't be 2222:host3:222210:31
DJonesZorky: People generally don't reply if they don't know, could get a bit much if 1700 users replied just saying no, sorry, no idea :)10:31
trindazhas to be different ports10:31
ZorkyDJones:  i know. i was counting on people that was active in the channel at the time. could just give me a private answer or anything. since im lost regarding this issue10:32
blazemoretrindaz: this is what I use in my .ssh/config file http://paste.ubuntu.com/6013554/10:32
blazemoretrindaz: Replace "target.com" and "intermediate.com" obviously10:32
trindazthat's interesting, so i can skip port numbers all together if i want?10:32
Zorkyvoltagex:  are you trying to install ubuntu on a mac computer?10:33
trindazoh hang o nnow10:33
reisio22 is the default10:33
trindazthat was -q10:33
blazemoreYeah that has the benefit that you can set up as many hosts to tunnel through intermediate as you want10:33
blazemoretrindaz: It's kind of the same as doing "ssh intermediate ssh target" which would work just fine10:33
blazemoreIt just makes it more automatic10:33
Araneidaeblazemore, something wierd: after restarting networking the network manager icon has vanished from the taskbar!10:34
blazemoreAraneidae: You just said you were using static IPs...10:34
AraneidaeAbsolutely, so presumably I want to tell network-manager to go get lost?10:34
AraneidaeHow do I do that?10:34
blazemorehttp://askubuntu.com/questions/249944/how-can-i-completely-remove-networkmanager10:35
blazemore!lubuntu10:35
ubottulubuntu is Ubuntu with LXDE instead of !GNOME as desktop environment, which makes it extremely lightweight. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu - /join #lubuntu for lubuntu support.10:35
AraneidaeAh, think adding the append line to dhclient.conf or something has given network-manger kittens anyway.  Thanks for the link, will set up stating networking10:36
[OS]Cazazohelp me please... when opening the terminal.. I got the error message: bash: /etc/bash_completion.d/cvs: line 278: syntax error: unexpected end of file10:40
[OS]CazazoI have tried to gedit the file, but doesn't open it...  I got another error message10:42
[OS]Cazazo** (gedit:2691): WARNING **: Hit unhandled case 0 (Error reading from file: Input/output error) in parse_error.10:42
Araneidae[OS]Cazazo, ouch.  Did you change anything just now?  Any idea who owns /etc/bash_completion.d/cvs ? Can't see it on my system10:44
[OS]CazazoI'm having problems with my video card...10:45
[OS]CazazoI have removed the driver and rebooted10:45
[OS]Cazazoso is running on the default of the 12.0410:45
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AraneidaeCan you cat the file, or less it?10:45
[OS]CazazoAraneidae: dunno... how to I do it?10:46
[OS]Cazazohow do I do it10:46
AraneidaeYou have a command line prompt?  What does `cat /etc/bash_completion.d/cvs` show?  (Return at the end)10:46
[OS]CazazoAraneidae: cat: /etc/bash_completion.d/cvs: Input/output error10:47
AraneidaeOuch ouch ouch10:47
[OS]CazazoAraneidae: indeed10:48
AraneidaeDoes `dmesg | tail` have anything exciting to say?10:48
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AraneidaeAlso, what about `ls -l /etc/bash_completion.d/cvs` ?10:49
[OS]CazazoAraneidae: -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 11734 Mar 31  2012 /etc/bash_completion.d/cvs10:50
AraneidaeFine.  So your shell is working and the file should be readable ... but it isn't10:50
blazemore[OS]Cazazo: sudo touch /forcefsck10:52
blazemorethen reboot10:52
AraneidaeThis looks like broken system territory to me, though it's just possible there are some weird security flags on that file (clutching at straws).  I'd force an fsck on that volume and study dmesg and the logs with trepidation10:52
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blazemoreoh apparently you can just do sudo shutdown -rF now10:53
AraneidaeOh, cool, that's good to know10:53
blazemoreand it'll force a fsck on the next reboot, that's pretty useful10:53
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[OS]Cazazokk will try no10:53
[OS]Cazazonow*10:54
Araneidaebest of luck10:54
[OS]Cazazoty lol10:54
AraneidaeGet rid of the video driver for the time being...10:54
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[OS]Cazazoblazemore: shutdown: time expected Try `shutdown --help' for more information.10:54
Araneidae[OS]Cazazo, you need the now on the end, it's part of the command10:55
[OS]Cazazokk10:55
LTB30Hi. I have a big problem with ubuntu :( I installed it under Windows 7 yesterday and it worked very fine (Dual-Boot). Now I wanted to update to Ubuntu 12.10, that took over an hour. I closed the laptop and opened it after an hour, and it was just flickering black. i waited some time, but there was no HDD activity, so i killed it with the power switch. when i now boot ubuntu, everything works til i log in, then i just have a blue screen 10:57
denkanhello, how do I add a custom resulotion in xrandr? need to lower my refresh rate10:57
LTB30logout only works via ctrl+alt+del10:57
[OS]Cazazosame thing guys10:58
reisiodenkan: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution#Adding_undetected_resolutions10:58
cfhowlettLTB30, ubuntu gives a blue screen?10:58
denkanreisio thx10:58
[OS]Cazazobash: /etc/bash_completion.d/cvs: line 278: syntax error: unexpected end of file10:58
LTB30well, not a BSOD, but its just a pure blue screen10:58
blazemoreLTB30: a blue screen? ctrl alt del? doesn't sound much like Ubuntu10:59
LTB30with nothing on it10:59
cfhowlettLTB30, pretty sure that's windows going blue ...10:59
LTB30well, i cant do anything once i logged in10:59
cfhowlettLTB30, logged in to ubuntu?10:59
LTB30nope, i choosed ubuntu and it loaded, i logged in under ubuntu and after that i just get a blue screen10:59
cfhowlett!nomodeset|LTB30, sounds like a nomodeset issue.  Best fix?  download the ISO and clean install10:59
ubottuLTB30, sounds like a nomodeset issue.  Best fix?  download the ISO and clean install: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter10:59
LTB30currently im under windows because nothing is working under ubuntu10:59
ActionPa1snip[OS]Cazazo: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/8850924/cvs   here is my default file11:00
ActionPa1snip[OS]Cazazo: or run:  sudo apt-get --reinstall install bash-completion       to get the new file from packages11:00
LTB30can i use the windows installer for ubuntu to do that, ubottu?11:01
cfhowlettLTB30, oh wait.  this is a windows ubuntu install?  not recommended ....11:01
LTB30mh :/11:01
LTB30yeah, i thought so. but i had no USB stick and my DVD burner doesnt work anymore :/11:02
cfhowlettLTB30, could be that ubuntu fragged could be that windows fragged ubuntu.  That's why a windows/wubi install is not recommended.  wubi is for TESTING not for long term installation.11:02
LTB30oh, ok.11:02
LTB30well, i havent booted to windows in the meantime11:03
cfhowlettLTB30, dual boot is what you're after.  quite easy to set up win7/ubuntu dual.  get a USB.  They're cheap.  torrent the ISO ubuntu, make a stick and install.11:03
LTB30i think it wasnt a good idea to close the laptop while updating11:03
cfhowlettLTB30, I wasn't going to say anything, but ... yeah.11:03
LTB30will it just intall over the old ubuntu installation?11:03
LTB30yeah, i didnt think of that it may turn into sleep mod or something like that, turned it off on windows ;)11:04
cfhowlettLTB30, again, the windows/wubi method is NOT the way to go.   a proper dual boot creates an ubuntu partition wholly separate from windows.11:04
cfhowlett!dualboot|LTB30,11:04
ubottuLTB30,: Dual boot instructions: x86/AMD64: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DualBoot/Windows - Macs: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro https://help.ubuntu.com/community/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot11:04
Gorgorothhi11:04
Gorgorothi have a linux question11:04
cfhowlettGorgoroth, greetings11:04
Gorgoroth14. whichman uses ______ matching algorithm11:04
Gorgorotha. Reinforcement Learning11:05
Gorgorothb. Probabilistic11:05
Gorgorothc. Fuzzy11:05
Gorgorothd. Genetic11:05
FloodBot1Gorgoroth: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.11:05
blazemoreIs this an assignment, Gorgoroth ?11:05
DJonesGorgoroth: Do you have an Ubuntu support question?11:05
Gorgorothno11:05
cfhowlettGorgoroth, this is not an ubuntu question ...11:05
Gorgorothits a revision question for my test tomorrow11:05
Gorgorothwell it is11:05
blazemoreIt is an assignment obviously, why are you presenting us with multiple choices11:05
gry'whichman'?11:05
cfhowlett!topic|Gorgoroth,11:05
ubottuGorgoroth,: Please read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic11:05
Gorgorothit is not an assignment11:05
blazemore!info whichman11:05
ubottuwhichman (source: whichman): Fault tolerant search utilities: whichman, ftff, ftwhich. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.4-7 (raring), package size 19 kB, installed size 77 kB11:05
Gorgorothit is part of a revision quiz for a test tomorrow11:06
blazemoreGorgoroth: I assume you already read the manpage?11:06
Gorgorothwhat11:06
gryGorgoroth: Read the book your tutor gave you, it will have the information on what to use to approach the test (such as, manpages).11:06
blazemoreman whichman11:06
Gorgorothjust tell me the answer11:06
DJonesGorgoroth: We can't help you with revision/tests, this channel is for support issues11:06
Gorgorothwhere should i go then11:06
blazemoreGorgoroth: You have a test on Linux tomorrow, and you don't know what a man page is?11:06
Gorgorothi know the man command11:07
blazemoreGorgoroth: Start by reading "man whichman"11:07
Gorgorothnot the whichman command11:07
LTB30@ ubottu: will i have anything to keep in mind when i have already an ubuntu installation on my HDD?11:07
gryGorgoroth: As I said, please, read the book your tutor gave you, it will have the information on what to use to approach the test (such as, manpages). I don't think asking for help in this way is wise in long-term.11:07
cfhowlettGorgoroth, man whichman11:07
Gorgorothjust tell me ffs11:07
cfhowlettGorgoroth, #linux11:07
blazemoreGorgoroth: We don't know11:07
blazemoreGorgoroth: We'd only look it up11:07
Gorgorothits moderated11:07
blazemoreGorgoroth: Which you could do, so we resent you asking it here11:07
gryGorgoroth: We don't all use the tool. We can read its manpage, but I suspect it's not quite a support issue, and we don't want to hurt your career. Learning is for making yourself familiar with the subject, not for getting good marks.11:08
Gorgorothlol11:08
Gorgorothtelling me what a command is is hurting my career?11:08
gryGorgoroth: Yes.11:08
Gorgorothim not asking you to do the whole test for me11:09
cfhowlettGorgoroth, dude.  System Admin's in training do their own research.11:09
Gorgorothooops11:09
Gorgorothyeah11:09
Gorgoroththats what i am doing here11:09
Gorgorothresearching11:09
Gorgorothby asking uz11:09
FloodBot1Gorgoroth: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.11:09
denkanhm... when I add a new mode in xrandr using "xrandr --addmode 2560x1440" nothing happens. Am I doing wrong?11:09
jribGorgoroth: this isn't an ubuntu support question.  This channel is for ubuntu support questions, not homework help.  Let's move on.11:10
gryGorgoroth: Us doing homework for you will inevitably make you less familiar with subject, and hurt your learning, hence hurt your career. You got kicked once, wih a 'This is not a channel for doing your homework/revision' message — this was a warning. To continue using the channel, please switch topic.11:10
cfhowlettGorgoroth, no you're just being lazy.  Take it to #ubuntu-offtopic to continue the discussion.11:10
Gorgorothsorrmy guess is the anwer is fuzzy11:10
gryOk. Apologies accepted.11:10
Gorgorothi already attempted to research11:10
Gorgorothand came up with 'fuzzy'11:11
Gorgorotham i correct?11:11
gryOk. I can't say.11:11
ShashankgI installed ubuntu 13.04,  can't change screen birghtness( using brightness keys or brghtness and lock. It is set to maximum. Laptop-dell xps.11:11
denkaninstall synaptics?11:11
blazemoreHey Shashankg take a look at the top answer here http://askubuntu.com/questions/142017/brightness-keys-f4-and-f5-not-working-on-dell-xps-15-6-laptop11:12
LTB30can anyone tell me if i have to keep anything in mind when i want to install ubuntu over an already existing (but corrputed) ubuntu? any everything as dual-boot with windows 7?11:14
LTB30*and11:14
cfhowlettLTB30, install dual boot means you are NOT install to the corrupted wubi.  once you have your dual set up, delete the windows ubuntu and for forth and conquer11:15
LTB30how do i uninstall it?11:15
LTB30when i cannot enter ubuntu?11:16
cfhowlettLTB30, delete the partition via windows11:16
LTB30i cannot delete it because theres a lot of data on this partition11:16
cfhowlettLTB30, it'll show up as "wubi" or some such name.11:16
cfhowlettLTB30, ah well that's different.  and you want to save this stuff?11:17
LTB30can't i use uninstall wubi.exe under D:\ubuntu ?11:17
dat789hello! I'm running 12.04 and did an update yesterday. Today I noticed that I cannot scroll up/down using the middle scroll wheel on my mouse anymore. Rather, it will show me the history of last entered commands in the command line (like using the up/down arrows on keyboard). Why is this? How to correct it?11:17
cfhowlettLTB30, yep11:17
LTB30yeah, D is my pratition with all my data, C is all my programs11:17
LTB30ok, i think that would be the easiest way11:17
LTB30isnt it?11:17
cfhowlettLTB30, once you're dual booting ubuntu, you might be able to browse to your data and save it.11:17
LTB30i can access all files under windows11:18
cfhowlettLTB30, even you buntu data?11:18
LTB30im not sure, but a i only used it some minutes (i just pressed update and entered my WLAN key^^) so i can live with loosing that data11:19
LTB30btw, why does a ubuntu install last only 10 minutes, but couple of hours to update from 12.04 to 12.10?11:19
dat789hello! I'm running 12.04 and did an update yesterday. Today I noticed that I cannot scroll up/down using the middle scroll wheel on my mouse anymore. Rather, it will show me the history of last entered commands in the command line (like using the up/down arrows on keyboard). Why is this? How to correct it?11:19
cfhowlettLTB30, update is only working on the current version.  upgrade from 12.04 to 12.10 installs a whole new version.11:20
LTB30ehm11:20
blazemoreLTB30: It has to download all the packages11:20
LTB30downloading took 10 minutes11:20
Dr_WillisHmmm.11:20
Dr_Willisdat789:  it shows my commands  in my irc clients. but scrolls in my bash terminal.  Tried it with differnt terminal apps?11:21
cfhowlettLTB30, installing ubuntu generally takes around 20 - 45 minutes depending on your system specs.11:21
LTB30mh, i just ran uninstall-wubi.exe. took only 2 sec, but the folder is away11:21
LTB30i will reboot to see if its still aviabile to boot under. if its still aviable as boot-selection, ill rejoin this chanel.11:21
LTB30thank you very much for your kind help! :)11:22
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Dr_Williswubi should be uninstallable under the windows add/remove apps stuff.11:22
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shashankg_blazemore: : I tried what the link said, but still nothing is happening, only one thing changed. when I booted, my brightness was set to low, once I pressed the birghtess key, I became max and I can't change it.11:25
rebarI dont get this I am trying to add my custom resulotion I have setup in xrandr using "--addmode <output> <name>" if my monitor is connected to "DVI-I-2" shouldn't it be like this then? "xrandr --addmode DVI-I-2 2560x1440_60.00" please help"11:26
dat789Dr_Willis: no, i haven't tried it with different terminal apps. I've only been using Ubuntu's terminal11:27
shashankg_blazemore: I tried what the link said, but still nothing is happening, only one thing changed. when I booted, my brightness was set to low, once I pressed the birghtess key, I became max and I can't change it.11:28
dikhi i am getting this error11:30
dikUse of uninitialized value $includedir in concatenation (.) or string at (eval 9) line 1.11:30
dikis there any expert who can solve this problem11:30
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somsipdik: PHP?11:34
XentinelI'm trying to use a bluetooth mouse with Ubuntu, but after like five minutes of inactivity, the mouse powers down and then it won't reconnect11:34
diki am building mod_selinux11:37
rebar-11:37
shashankg_I installed ubuntu 13.04, I can't change my screen brightness, I tried the  top answe here http://askubuntu.com/questions/142017/brightness-keys-f4-and-f5-not-working-on-dell-xps-15-6-laptop. still nothing happened.11:37
somsip!details | dik11:37
ubottudik: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."11:37
rebarI dont get this I am trying to add my custom resulotion I have setup in xrandr using "--addmode <output> <name>" if my monitor is connected to "DVI-I-2" shouldn't it be like this then? "xrandr --addmode DVI-I-2 2560x1440_60.00"11:38
dik here i am compiling mod_selinux for ubuntu from source code.11:41
dikwhen i am doing 'make' at the first line of output it is comming11:41
somsipdik: compiling from source isn't really supported here. Why are you not installing from the repo?11:41
Kusuma_sureshHI11:42
Kusuma_sureshHow to renewal ssl certificate on apache server11:42
Kusuma_sureshdownloaded all the three certificates from godaddy11:42
Kusuma_sureshand replaced it on server11:43
Kusuma_sureshand restarted the apache11:43
Kusuma_sureshbut not working11:43
Kusuma_sureshit is showing old certificate only11:43
Kusuma_sureshplease help to resolve the isse11:43
MonkeyDustKusuma_suresh  spare the enter key, please11:43
ActionPa1snipKusuma_suresh: you need to generate the first bit first, the code you have is the old one. Or did you generate the new code on the godaddy website?11:43
larsjaarebar: have you tried to quote11:44
dikit is not available in repo11:44
somsipdik: then you need to contact whoever supplies the source for helpo11:44
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ActionPa1snipKusuma_suresh: if you just go to the site and grab the code it will be the old code, you need to generate the first part on your server then put it in the godaddy service11:45
diki downloaded it from fedora site11:45
somsipdik: I doubt you will get much help here about it, wherever you got it from11:46
Kusuma_sureshActionPa1snip: actually our team has send old key to godaddy11:48
Kusuma_sureshthen they provided certificates11:48
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Kusuma_sureshthose certificates we copied into server and restarted the service11:48
ActionPa1snipKusuma_suresh: the key needs regenerating each time you renew11:51
Kusuma_sureshmay i know what is the command to regenerate the key11:52
ActionPa1snipKusuma_suresh: there are guides online. I would just be websearching as you can11:52
Kusuma_sureshok thanks11:53
aric_hi11:54
ltb30hi there, once again ;) i have a question: i downloaded ubuntu 13.04 as ISO file, burned it with Nero as Image and inserted it into my computer, but it didnt booted (although the optical drive was selected as first boot). But the DVD boots under another PC. Any advice (except using USB for the lack of a USB stick)?11:54
aric_pp11:54
ActionPa1snipltb30: what happens when you try to boot the CD?11:55
ltb30it says "insert a proper boot media and press a key"11:55
ActionPa1snipltb30: do other CDs boot ok?11:56
aric_using your burned CD ,try to boot another computer11:56
ltb30after the optical drive worked a bit11:56
ltb30the DVD is working under another PC11:56
ltb30im not sure if other boot cds worked. i know that there was a time when i could boot ubuntu from DVD11:56
aric_clean your optical header11:56
ltb30already done that11:57
aric_maybe ur computer is laptop11:57
ltb30yes it is :P11:57
ltb30oh, i see. i don't see anything under windows at all11:57
ltb30maybe my optical drive has probles with DVD+R11:58
aric_ur DVD driver maybe old and favor some disks11:58
aric_some of the disk can't work properly11:59
aric_copy ur ubuntu's iso file to hard disk, try to install it from hard disk. boot live cd by grub12:01
Dr_Willisyou can set up a USB flash to boot the iso file using grub2 ;)12:02
Dr_Willisalso what files are on the cd?12:02
ltb30ubuntu 13.0412:03
ltb30well, i asked my neighbour if he had a USB stick, happily he had 2 GB stick. i now will create a bootable USB stick, that works12:03
Dr_Williswindows should be showing quite a bit of differnt files on the cd.12:03
ltb30thank you anyway for your help, really appreciate it :)12:03
Dr_Willispendrivelinux web site has tools for making usb flash drives to install from12:03
ltb30i already did that couple of times, works really nice12:05
ltb30bye :)12:06
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ltb30hi. so i have now ubuntu on a usb stick and i want to install it. but im unsure about the partitions12:20
ltb30ubuntu asks if it should "hang out" the current partition on my HDD12:21
ltb30i already have 2 partitions on my HDD. C:\, where windows is installed, and D:\, where i just have Data12:22
ActionPa1snipltb30: do you want to dual boot?12:22
ltb30when i used wubi, it just installed it on D:\ without any further questions12:22
ltb30yes12:22
ActionPa1snipltb30: what version of Windows are you using?12:22
ltb30windows 712:22
ActionPa1snipltb30: boot to Windows7 and resize one of the partitions. Make unpartitioned space of 10Gb or more12:23
ActionPa1snipltb30: you can then boot to the install media and install to the free space12:23
ltb30why cant it work like on the wubi installation?12:23
ActionPa1snipltb30: because wubi is garbage12:24
fadimcan it load inside win?12:24
ltb30its a lot easier :D12:24
fadimwin812:24
ActionPa1snipfadim: its not recommended in Win8 if memory serves12:24
ActionPa1snipltb30: yes but its super fragile and not ideal at all12:25
ltb30what exactly makes wubi garbage? i was pretty satisfied with the installation12:25
ltb30i primary want to use ubuntu to try out gazelle (the tracker software)12:25
fadimhave you got rid of windows by now?12:25
ActionPa1snipltb30: as a try-before-you-buy for a few weeks, its great but it is not a long term solution12:25
ActionPa1snipltb30: if it breaks its an ass to fix12:25
ActionPa1snipltb30: it's stored in your NTFS so will be directly affected by the crapness of NTFS12:25
BluesKajltb30, why not use a VM /VB12:26
ActionPa1snipltb30: people (for some unknown reason) still don't backup so when it does break they lose acces to their "important" data12:26
fadimand i guess that for every windows program there is at least one linux equilevant, right?12:26
ltb30ok. so now i switch back to windows, will create a new partition with about 10GB and then boot back into ubuntu usb stick?12:26
ActionPa1snipfadim: in most cases yes12:26
BluesKajfadim, yup ,and more12:27
fadimok then12:27
ltb30fadim: not if youre a musician :/12:27
fadim@ltb30, why so?12:28
ltb30i heard that theres no VST support under Linux12:29
ltb30and theres no proper DAW for linux12:29
fadimi see...12:29
Hanumaantrying to install libhunspell-1.2-0 but giving this error : http://paste.ubuntu.com/6013874/ any solution ?12:30
MonkeyDustHanumaan  try to find what other program refers to it12:31
HanumaanMonkeyDust, how to find that ?12:31
knightzxHanumaan: there is pkg called libhunspell-1.3-012:31
BluesKajacronym happy , but not linux happy12:31
MonkeyDustHanumaan  try 1.3-012:32
HanumaanMonkeyDust, 1.3-0 is already installed but the python program which I have is only asking 1.2-0 version ..12:32
MonkeyDustHanumaan  try looking for a newer version, then, or modify the python program to make it work with 1.3-012:34
DarkLobsterWhat's a clever way of giving others admin rights for /var/www(and all subfolders)? (Members of the group that owns the folder) I.e a group admin? They should also be able to use service, to restart the webserver and such. Can it be done with the sudoers file?12:35
kevlar555Buenos dias!12:36
neopsycheHi there12:37
neopsycheAnyone know how to remove wireless backports and revert to old drivers?12:37
AraneidaeI'm just about to `apt-get purge network-manager`, but apt-get says it'll also remove lubuntu-desktop*.  How much does this matter?12:37
Dr_Willis!ppa-purge12:37
ubottuTo disable a PPA from your sources and revert your packages back to default Ubuntu packages, install ppa-purge and use the command: « sudo ppa-purge ppa:<repository-name>/<subdirectory> » – For more information, see http://www.webupd8.org/2009/12/remove-ppa-repositories-via-command.html12:37
Dr_WillisAraneidae:  its just a meta-package - wont matter much at all12:37
OerHeksDarkLobster, make them member of www-data12:37
ActionPa1snipAraneidae: its a meta-package so doesnt matter12:37
AraneidaeOk.  It won't affect upgrades?12:37
ActionPa1snipAraneidae: you can reinstall the metapackage if you desire12:38
Dr_Willisnormal package updates No..12:38
Dr_WillisRELEASE upgrades.. perhaps.12:38
Dr_Willisbut doubtfull.12:38
DarkLobsterOerHeks: Yes, I've done that. But they still can't f.ex chmod a file that's owned by another member of www-data12:38
AraneidaeUm.  Oh well.  The purge seems to have left a couple of directories behind, guess I've some manual tidying and rebooting to do...12:39
burghello. i am using ubuntu server 12.04 and my ethernet card is not recognized (missing driver, i guess). i managed to connect to internet with a wireless board, now how do i install the missing driver?12:43
gordonjcpburg: what is the ethernet card?12:43
gordonjcpburg: unless it's something deeply weird, it'll have a driver12:44
rg_chiGood morning12:44
burggordonjcp, http://codepad.org/48EmpChl12:45
burggordonjcp, it is the onboard card from MSI B75A-G43 mother board12:45
BluesKajatheros ethernet , that's a bit rare12:46
compdocatheros is not that rare12:46
gordonjcpye12:47
gordonjcpburg: try googling for that line VID/PID pair12:47
burggordonjcp, 1969:e091 ?12:48
gordonjcpye12:48
gordonjcpgive that a shot, and see if it shows up anything on the forums12:48
neopsycheCan anyone help me get my wireless working?12:48
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BluesKajcompdoc, maybe not for wifi , but atheros ethernet I haven't seen before12:51
blazemore!anyone12:52
ubottuA high percentage of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? See also !details, !gq, and !poll.12:52
compdocits Qualcomm12:52
AraneidaeWhoops, rebooted wrong machine!12:53
AraneidaeHow do I discover which name servers resolveconf is using?  I seem to have broken my DNS config12:54
somsipAraneidae: dig {server} will tell you what is being used12:54
CentRookiehi12:55
Araneidaesomsip, `dig` just says SERVER: 127.0.0.1#53(127.0.0.1)12:55
CentRookiehope you guys are doing fine12:55
CentRookiesomething really funny happened12:56
AraneidaeThat's what resolvconf has plonked in /etc/resolv.conf, but looks like that doesn't go anywhere...12:56
mosezmaybe somebody here can answer my question. whaich debian_revision version string gets updated in case of a dist upgrade? ~mosez+precise1/~mosez+raring1 or ~mosez+ubuntu1204/~mosez+130412:56
somsipAraneidae: so you're running a DNS server rather than using an external one?12:56
BluesKajburg, http://askubuntu.com/questions/165192/how-do-i-install-drivers-for-the-atheros-ar8161-ethernet-controller12:56
ActionPa1snipAraneidae: nmcli -f IP4 dev list12:56
Araneidaesomsip, well, I'm actually trying to set up dnsmasq, but resolvconf is getting in my way!12:56
Araneidae(or, at least, confusing the hell out of me)12:56
CentRookieI have this old computer, AMD 2ghz, single core, and thought "Why not installing ubunto in that one? It supports NTFS so all my old files from my windows time, like pictures and videos will remain12:57
somsipAraneidae: ah - out of my league then. My dig resolves to my router, or whoever I set dnsservers to when I was running bind. I shall leave it with you12:57
gordonjcpCentRookie: yes, as long as you don't wipe the old hard disk ;-)12:57
BluesKajAraneidae, are you still using network manager12:57
gordonjcpCentRookie: buy a new hard disk for it12:57
AraneidaeActionPa1snip, I'm in a catch 22 right now: don't have nmcli, and until I have DNS back again I can't install anything!12:57
ActionPa1snipCentRookie: if you tell Ubuntu to use the whole space you will lose the data, if you dual boot then you can access the data on the NTFS partition12:57
AraneidaeBluesKaj, no, it's dead and buried12:57
CentRookieSo I downloaded ubuntu, booted it from a thumbdrive, chose the windows partition, which was on DISK 1, and divided into Partition C and D12:57
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CentRookieso ofc I chose partition C12:58
Araneidae... so presumably I've not put the right DNS entries where they belong12:58
ActionPa1snipCentRookie: I run Ubuntu on a lot less than a 2Ghz CPU12:58
CentRookieand after installing, it wiped my whole computer clean12:58
CentRookielike a fresh baby butt12:58
ActionPa1snipCentRookie: well yeah, you told it to use the entire drive for Ubuntu...what did you expect?12:58
CentRookieturned out, partition C was in reality DISK 112:58
AraneidaeAh.  nmcli was part of network-manager -- that's why it's gone12:58
CentRookieso what am i gonna do now?12:59
MonkeyDustCentRookie  linux uses /dev/sda1 sda2 etc, not C D E - most probably Windows was on C and you erased that12:59
ActionPa1snipCentRookie: restore data from backup12:59
burgBluesKaj, i get errors on make12:59
AraneidaeSo... I've dug a stupid little ditch for myself.  Where does resolvconf find the master DNS servers?!12:59
BluesKajok Araneidae , check your /etc/hosts file , then the /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/base settings for nameservers if you're using a dns server12:59
somsipAraneidae: so you have an entry in /etc/resolve.conf for nameserver 127.0.0.1? Have you amended anything in /etc/network/interfaces recently?12:59
CentRookiewell, we all make errors, just is there a way to turn it around?13:00
ActionPa1snipAraneidae: you can use  /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/head    to make those DNS servers supercede any you gain via DHCP13:00
Araneidaesomsip, yes, I've added an explicit entry for eth0 in /etc/network/interfaces so I could ditch network-manager for a static ip.13:00
nachoLoghey i am trying to run unetbootin but it keeps asking me for a administrative password to run it and something about "rootcheck=no".. i dont even have an administrative password i think13:00
AraneidaeThanks all, looks like /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/head is the answer :)13:00
gordonjcpCentRookie: yes, actually13:00
marianneHi again... ordered all new hardware for a new build, question -- I'm going to be installing 12.04, which is what I am currently running... is it possible to just drop in the old HD and have it boot up?13:00
BluesKajburg, make sure you have build-essential installed13:00
gordonjcpCentRookie: switch the thing off13:00
ActionPa1snipCentRookie: yes, your backups wil lhave your important data. you can restore that data to your user's home and use Ubuntu on its own13:01
CentRookiefunny13:01
gordonjcpCentRookie: don't even bother to shut down, just switch it off13:01
gordonjcpCentRookie: have you got backups?13:01
CentRookiemm they didnt had mission critical data13:01
AraneidaeBah.  I preferred the older days when configs where not scattered in thousands of files :(13:01
neopsycheanyone help with wireless?13:01
ActionPa1snipCentRookie: then who cares :)13:01
burgBluesKaj, it is installed13:01
CentRookiejust lots of older work files13:01
ActionPa1snipneopsyche: details please13:01
somsipAraneidae: I added 'dns-nameservers 192.168.1.1' to the eth0 entry in /etc/network/interfaces, but that's my router. I guess something like 8.8.8.8 could get you working again13:01
burgi am trying right now the solution from http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=200833213:01
CentRookiebut they have sentimental value..13:01
CentRookiein windows i would just start a partition recovery session with some tool13:02
gordonjcpCentRookie: yup13:02
CentRookieand let it run for a day or so and get most data back13:02
Araneidaesomsip, thanks, didn't know about the dns-nameservers entry.  Will try that13:02
neopsycheActionPalsnip: I had some issues with wireless disconnecting.. I installed a backport but now OS does not see wireless card and wifi missing from networking13:02
CentRookiehow is it with linux overformatted disks13:02
gordonjcpCentRookie: okay, you can use testdisk to search through and find the remaining bits of NTFS filesystem13:02
CentRookieany chance to part of the data back?13:02
gordonjcpCentRookie: you've installed Linux over it, so a bunch of it will be overwritten13:02
CentRookieyeah, but from what i see linux is only 1gb13:02
gordonjcpCentRookie: have you got a large external USB drive, or something siimilar?13:02
CentRookieand the full disk is 200gb13:02
neopsycheActionPalsnip:   Any thoughts13:03
gordonjcpCentRookie: take an image of the full disk13:03
CentRookieand i store all important stuff on partition D13:03
somsipAraneidae: AIUI, /etc/resolve.conf rebuilds from entries in various places, including that setting in interfaces13:03
gordonjcpCentRookie: work on the image, not the disk13:03
CentRookiewhile C has windows with the first 30GB13:03
Araneidaesomsip, just the ticket for me :)13:03
AraneidaeAny idea where it gets the default domain search path from?13:03
CentRookieyes, but the disk is like 200gb, would have to export it to an external disk i think13:03
somsipAraneidae: No. Someone asked that a while ago but I don't recall.13:04
CentRookieso your recommendation is to export the whole disk content as an image to an external harddrive13:04
neopsychewww.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/projects/backports/2013/06/18/backports-20130618.tar.bz213:04
BluesKajActionPa1snip, I had an issue with /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/base yesterday , it wouldn't write to /etc/resolv.conf , so i used  /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/head , instead , and that fixed the problem , ..is  this weird or a regression ?13:04
CentRookieand from there run some file recovery program?13:05
CentRookiethe thing is, i would try to boot it up with a thumbdrive and windows portable and run recovery tools, if the file system was ntfs13:05
gordonjcpCentRookie: well, testdisk will find what's left of the NTFS partitions13:06
CentRookiedo you know of a file recovery tool that works with ubunto filesystem?13:06
gordonjcpCentRookie: it's better to work on a copy of the disk, instead of the "real" disk13:06
gordonjcpCentRookie: I have told you about four times, testdisk13:06
CentRookieso i just run testdisk in terminal?13:06
ikoniaCentRookie: stop now13:06
ikoniaCentRookie: no, you don't13:06
ikoniaCentRookie: you research the process before touching anything13:07
burgBluesKaj, but i get an error on make on that approach too13:07
ikoniaCentRookie: and that means researching it and applying it your situation - not asking "how how how" in this channel13:07
CentRookiealrighty13:07
AraneidaeActually, I'm getting REFUSED when trying to do a DNS query, which suggests something is misconfigured somewhere else13:07
Araneidae`host bbc.co.uk` returns: Host bbc.co.uk not found: 5(REFUSED)13:07
ikoniaAraneidae: fix your dns13:07
AraneidaeDrat.  It was working half an hour ago13:08
Araneidaeikonia, guess what I'm working on right now13:08
neopsychebackport messed my wireless driver13:08
neopsychehow to fix?13:08
neopsycheikonia: can you help with wireless issue?13:08
ikonianeopsyche: sorry no13:09
AraneidaeOooh: dnsmasq died13:09
BluesKajburg, maybe this will work , http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=150&t=13893113:09
neopsycheikonia: I am running 13:04 on samsung S5 ultrabook installed www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/projects/backports/2013/06/18/backports-20130618.tar.bz2  when wireless was giving problems (maby a mistake) now wireless card has disappeared.13:09
CentRookienoob question: can i work with deb repos on ubuntu?13:09
reisioCentRookie: technically, but I doubt it'd end well13:10
reisioat least in general13:10
gordonjcpCentRookie: kind of, but it's not recommended13:10
CentRookiehttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=38792213:10
CentRookiecuz this guy uses deb13:10
CentRookiefor ubuntu13:10
r0bustHello my friends!13:11
MonkeyDustCentRookie  don't mix distros13:11
CentRookieah13:11
BluesKajCentRookie, if you want debian repos , run debian13:12
BluesKajotherwise you'll have grief in the long run13:13
CentRookieone question, this happenend 2 years ago, any chance the data can still be found? ^^13:13
CentRookiei havent touched the system for 2 years13:14
ikoniaCentRookie: if you've not touched the system - then the data won't be any more corrupted,13:14
CentRookieok, lets hope i get my baby files back13:14
CentRookieand my old work files13:15
CentRookiei think they should put a warning up in ubuntu installer: warning, please understand that this is not windows. you will totally wipe out the whole disk, not just a partition.13:15
reisioCentRookie: same risk installing Windows13:16
CentRookienot really13:16
reisioyes really :)13:16
reisioif you want a second backup, you could dd or ddrescue the disk to another backup13:16
juan_quien habla en español13:16
Pici!es | juan_13:16
CentRookieif you are a linux user switching to windows, then you come with another background and knowledge13:16
ubottujuan_: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro.13:16
CentRookiebut windows is a beginners system13:16
reisioCentRookie: both installers give you the option to accidentally or purposefully destroy partitions13:17
juan_gracias obottu13:17
reisioCentRookie: eh, you're comparing a preinstalled OS with one that isn't, which is pointless13:17
juan_#ubuntu-es13:17
CentRookiewell the windows installer is pretty straight forward, i have never mixed up partitions13:17
CentRookiein linux, they dont even show disk manufacturer13:17
CentRookieso you have to guess which has been mounted as first disk13:18
reisioI don't recall seeing disk manufacturer during Windows install :)13:18
CentRookiejust wish they d make it simpler :(13:19
reisiohttp://is.gd/xeliju http://is.gd/gipowo13:19
reisioyeah, it could be simpler :)13:19
reisiogetting a new disk makes multiple OSes simpler13:19
CentRookiethere, you see disk 0 and partition 1 or 213:20
reisioand you're basically always going to need the extra storage at one point13:20
CentRookiecant remember what they called it in ubuntu13:20
reisioCentRookie: sdA and sdB, possibly13:20
CentRookiewell, i was maxing out already13:20
CentRookiealready had 3 disks in system13:20
CentRookie6 partition total, so it was a bit complicated13:21
CentRookiesdA is a disk or a partition?13:21
reisioa disk, a device13:21
reisiothe first one13:22
CentRookiei remember that ubuntu recognized the partition in size correctly13:22
CentRookieand i choose the first disk and first partition13:22
CentRookiehow come it ended up wiping the whole disk?13:22
reisiomy guess is you instructed it... imperfectly :)13:23
neopsycheIf I upgrade to 13.10 will it overwrite my old wireless drivers and possibly fix issue with wireless?13:23
reisiosort of pointless to conjecture so long after the fact13:23
CentRookiehmm guess so13:23
reisioneopsyche: possibly, but I would find out for sure first ;)13:23
CentRookieit wasnt me who did it13:23
compdocneopsyche, try booting the live dvd13:23
CentRookieas my defense13:23
CentRookiebut it was my data -_-13:24
CentRookieso i should have done it myself13:24
reisioCentRookie: yeah :/13:24
CentRookiei heard all the wonders and feedback about ubuntu being fast on older machines13:24
CentRookieand how easy to set up it was13:24
AntarHi13:24
cloneGCentRookie it is13:24
reisioand you got someone else to set it up? :p13:24
reisioAntar: hi13:24
CentRookieand when i installed the newest ubuntu image, it didnt even come with a sidebar navigation13:24
CentRookiei literally had only terminal13:25
cloneGCentRookie try lubuntu13:25
CentRookieand wallpaper13:25
MonkeyDustCentRookie  don't hit the enter key too often, it's getting a headache13:25
AntarWhat is the best way to read a specific environment variable ?13:25
CentRookiewent to google and found out the newest image has this bug, so i redownloaded an older version of ubuntu image. this time it had a sidebar, but my files were gone XD13:26
reisioAntar: to do what?13:26
brahmanHi, I am trying to setup mod_proxy on ubuntu 12.04, I have enabled proxy,proxy_http,proxy_html but still get this error: http://pastebin.com/FQ6Bw9GV13:27
AntarRead my question again13:27
msbrownAntar: in a script, in an application, from the command line, what? it matters.13:27
AntarCLI13:28
PiciAntar: echo?13:28
msbrownAntar: simplest: $env13:28
Dr_Willisecho $env13:28
Dr_Willis;)13:28
Antarmm good13:28
ltb30hi. i just wanted to install ubuntu 13.04 via USB-Stick with Dual-Boot. I created a new partition/free space (10 GB) under windows. After the Ubuntu installation it said it had to restart, but the computer kept black and didnt reboot, so i turned it off after about 5 minutes. After booting, it jumps automatically to Windows13:28
msbrownjsut 'env' no quotes on the prompt13:28
Dr_Willismight be time to hit up some bash scripting guides13:28
ltb30so, what went wrong?13:28
AntarDr_Willis what about env | grep variable13:29
Dr_WillisAntar:  why not just use $env ?13:29
honestlyltb30: you probably didn't install the bootloader in the right place13:29
msbrownAntar: example: 'echo $PWD'13:29
Dr_Willisecho $HOME13:29
AntarDr_Willis it is good to get var = value13:29
Dr_WillisAntar:  i cant see why it would be good..  but do what you want13:30
ltb30http://i.imgur.com/1NFrlWF.jpg13:30
AraneidaeGrrrrr.  I have finally got dnsmasq+resolvconf working together, and it's a mess.  Basically I've had to tell dnsmasq to ignore resolvconf, seems rather a waste of everybody's time13:30
ltb30honestly: but i dont know why, i had no option to choose when i said i want to have dual boot13:30
ltb30it directly jumped to where i live13:31
AntarDr_Willis what are the real life benefits of piping ?13:31
Dr_Willisltb30:  there should have been a questing asking  install alongside, or 'somthing else' you wanted 'somthing else'13:31
reisioltb30: boot up your install image and do 'try' and come back13:31
Dr_Willisltb30:  and you would need to setup the partitions as you want.13:31
msbrownltb30: it's been a while since I've installed dual-boot, but I don't see a boot partition in that jpg13:32
Dr_WillisAntar:  sounds like you may want to check into the #BASH channel for bash pros/cons/standard practice13:32
ltb30ok, ill reboot into usb-stick try mode13:32
Antarmm ok thank you13:32
msbrownltb30: (and I don't read German, sorry, just looking at partitions)13:32
brahmanHi, I am trying to setup mod_proxy on ubuntu 12.04, I have enabled proxy,proxy_http,proxy_html but still get this error: http://pastebin.com/FQ6Bw9GV13:33
reisioAntar: how about just using $VAR, I mean... it's already a variable13:33
CentRookiecloneg, thanks, will try lubuntu, but maybe on a new machine, dont want to corrupt the current system. but how is the hardware support nowadys for ubuntu / lubuntu, I have a wireless pci card that runs on ubuntu, seeing how lubuntu seems to be a bit of stripped down ubuntu, i guess it will also run on lubuntu?13:33
Antarreisio i understand you13:33
ironhalikcan I identify all available SATA ports on a system level?13:33
ltb30back agaib13:37
ltb30*again13:37
ltb30so, what to do?13:37
cloneGCentRookie using lubuntu on an old laptop also with wireless smoothly, I needed to install lubuntu 11.10 because it was the only non-pae distro I found. Upgrading it was easy and pretty quick and direct to ubuntu 12.0413:38
ltb30wouldn't it be easier to format the partition where ubuntu was installed and install ubuntu again?13:39
cloneGwhich would be the bash line to unmount an external hd?13:41
MonkeyDustcloneG  sudo umount /dev/sdXX13:41
reisiocloneG: umount /path/to/where/it/is/mounted13:41
reisiowith sudo :)13:41
reisio'mount' will tell you where13:41
f7hF11Newb question: How can one use a program that is not included in the repositories? Like this one: https://mat.boum.org/13:41
MrSassyPantswhat's the local.start / local.stop way in ubuntu again?13:42
MrSassyPantsI forgot.13:42
reisiof7hF11: well, that one is in the repos :)13:42
Nach0zf7hF11: typically you download either a .deb file (which you install with dpkg) or you download the .tar.gz source, unzip, ./configure, 'make install'13:42
Sivikf7hF11, you would have to install it via source or find a repo that has it in it and add that repos and install it that way13:42
hacker_hello13:43
f7hF11reisio: It is? I must have overlooked it then. Thanks. :)13:43
reisioMrSassyPants: /etc/init.d/rc.local ?13:43
f7hF11Nach0z, Sivik: Thanks for the info. :)13:43
reisiof7hF11: it's in 'universe'13:43
reisioif that matters13:43
reisiohacker_: hi13:43
hacker_i need help13:44
iceroot_f7hF11: http://packages.qa.debian.org/m/mat.html13:44
MrSassyPantsreisio, that's an init script executing /etc/rc.local13:44
iceroot_f7hF11: http://packages.ubuntu.com/raring/mat13:44
Sivikhacker_, just ask your question and someone will try and help you13:44
f7hF11iceroot_: Thanks!13:44
MrSassyPantsreisio, which makes /etc/rc.local the actual startstop13:44
iceroot_f7hF11: so why you say its not in the repos?13:44
cloneGMonkeyDust &  reisio: what all dev contets are? I cant find my external_hard_drive there, anyway: unmount command not found13:44
reisioMrSassyPants: :)13:45
MrSassyPantsreisio, thx13:45
reisiocloneG: gotta use sudo13:45
f7hF11iceroot_: I must have mistyped it when I was searching for it, I guess. :)13:45
reisiocloneG: /sbin/blkid13:45
iceroot_f7hF11: sudo apt-get install mat13:45
iceroot_f7hF11: ok :)13:45
neopsychecompdoc: im on an ultrabook with no dvd drive13:47
cloneGreisio: I did use sudo, and what with blkid?13:47
reisiocloneG: sudo umount /path/to/mount13:47
reisiocloneG: /sbin/blkid tells you where, as well as 'mount'13:48
michael1984Hello Folks13:48
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brahmanHi, I am trying to setup mod_proxy on ubuntu 12.04, I have enabled proxy,proxy_http,proxy_html but still get this error: http://pastebin.com/FQ6Bw9GV13:48
michael1984how are you?13:48
reisio'lo13:48
michael1984i was here yesterday, cause i have problems with my wireless lan13:48
neopsycheok. ubuntu says 'no release available' but it says i am using 13.04.. last i checked 13.10 was available?13:49
michael1984anyone here who has know how with intel centrino wireless cards?13:49
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cloneGreisio: anyway unmount tells me command not found13:50
cloneGreisio: sudo: unmount: command not found13:51
PicicloneG: its umount not unmount13:52
cloneGoh13:52
cloneGthanks13:52
cloneG:-)13:52
reisiocloneG: Unix ancestors couldn't be bothered to type _seven_ letters in a row :p13:55
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michael1984usr13,  are you there?13:57
BluesKajreisio, yeah in this texting happy world umount could be misinterpreted as youmount :)13:57
reisioit's ironic that predictive text works better with real, full English words :p13:57
ActionPa1snipreisio: it makes tab completion easier13:57
reisioActionPa1snip: umount?13:58
reisioI guess it does, but I don't know how much it would've when it was created13:58
ActionPa1snipreisio: yes, lots of english words start with 'un' so '[um]ount' will tab complete nicely13:58
reisiowell it's only vs other commands13:59
cloneGediting fstab in the <type> field is it allowed to add nfts?13:59
reisiocloneG: make it ntfs-3g13:59
cloneGusing vfat but the hd it is not14:00
cloneGntfs-3g?14:00
ltb30hi. once again its me. i want to install ubuntu beneath windows 7 and created a free 10gb of free space in the windows partition manager. what to do now?14:00
cloneGI dont want to reformat the hd!!!!14:00
reisioso don't reformat it14:00
reisioltb30: so whatever you might have installed already is gone now?14:00
cloneGso how do I know what do I need to put in the fstab <type> field?14:01
ltb30i deleted the partition with the ubuntu installation14:01
blazemoreltb30: Boot from the Ubuntu LiveCD/USB and install into the free space14:01
ltb30im right now in the live cd and the install dialog14:01
reisiocloneG: well I just told you, if it's ntfs :)14:01
ltb30i choosed something other when he asked what i wanted to do14:01
reisiocloneG: ntfs should work, too, but ntfs-3g is more mature/popular14:01
ltb30but im not sure what to do now14:01
blazemoreltb30: was there an option to automatically use the free space?14:02
cloneGreisio oh mature sure14:02
ltb30wait, ill upload a screenshot14:02
zykotick9ActionPa1snip: BUT, there is umask, AND unm doesn't tab anything, so it's still 3 letters to TAB either way ;)14:02
ltb30http://i.imgur.com/L0AM8Oq.png14:03
ltb30sorry its in german :/ i hope you'll understand what it means14:03
blazemoreltb30: Beenden14:04
blazemoreltb30: then take another screenshot14:04
valroadieFor some reason I cannot use my old ubuntuforums account, it has only made me a new account after going through the required ubuntu one site. Anyone else have this problem?14:04
ProtekNickz|2Hi all, Question, Since doing a video driver update, my bootsplash is in text mode???, is their a way to fix, as i've googed to no avail as most of their TuT's dont work :D????14:04
blazemoreltb30: Just out of interest is that Dutch or German? I guess German but I'm not sure14:04
ltb30german14:04
ltb30well, i clicked on "beenden" and the whole installation dialog closed14:05
blazemoreoh I assumed that meant "back" :314:05
blazemoreI should stop advising people in languages I don't speak :L14:06
ltb30beenden means closing14:06
ltb30np ;)14:06
blazemorenever mind, nothing bad happened14:06
ProtekNickz|2Hi all, Question, Since doing a video driver update, my bootsplash is in text mode???, is their a way to fix, as i've googed to no avail as most of their TuT's dont work :D????14:06
blazemoreBasically there's a screen where you can choose to do Guided Partioning or Other14:06
ltb30http://i.imgur.com/R7YVkqg.png14:06
blazemore!patience | ProtekNickz|214:06
ubottuProtekNickz|2: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com/ or http://ubuntuforums.org/ or http://askubuntu.com/14:06
blazemoreyeah ltb30 the first one assuming that says "Install Ubuntu alongside Windows 7"14:07
ltb30yes14:07
ltb30that i was using the last time14:07
ltb30and it turned out that i couldnt boot into ubuntu14:07
blazemoreYou can use custom partitioning if you want, just make sure you make one partition formatted as ext4 mounted as /14:07
zetheroojust was looking at this (http://www.serenux.com/2009/11/howto-fix-a-missing-eth0-adapter-after-moving-ubuntu-server-from-one-box-to-another/) since I am experiencing the same issue .... but I am wondering if there was any way to make it so that the disks can be removed from one host and placed into a backup host and not have to manually fix the MAC address issue .... !?14:07
ltb30and he created a partition with which just had the ubuntu files in it14:08
blazemoreAnd if you like, a swap partition, although nowadays with 4GiB+ RAM I am of the professional opinion that a dedicated swap partition isn't necessary on a desktop system14:08
blazemoreltb30: ok so go to the first screenshot you showed me. Double-click on Freier Speicherplatz14:08
reisiounless you want to hibernate14:08
blazemore^14:09
blazemoreYou can use a swap FILE though surely?14:09
reisioor if you don't know to alter swappiness :)14:09
reisioblazemore: semantics :)14:09
reisioI like the partition, though, they come in handy14:09
michael_2Hello14:09
reisiohi michael_214:09
blazemoreIt's just that nowadays we're in a position where drive space is actually at a premium, with SSDs. I can't afford to give up 16GiB of space on my 128GiB SSD just for the luxury of hibernation. I have, instead, a 1GiB swap file for emergencies14:09
michael_2can anyone help me with my wireless lan14:09
blazemore!anyone14:10
ubottuA high percentage of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? See also !details, !gq, and !poll.14:10
michael_2intel wifi is a pain in the ass14:10
f7hF11I wonder why Ubuntu hides the scrollbar like that. Isn't that somewhat confusing to new users? :o14:10
ActionPa1snipmichael_2: depends on the exact chip14:10
reisioright, but at that point you probably really don't need swap :)14:10
michael_2intel centrino ultimate-n 630014:10
ActionPa1snipf7hF11: it can be disabled / removed14:10
msbrownf7hF11: it's a default, it can be changed14:10
ltb30im also intrested why i shouldnt install ubuntu on my 2nd windows NTFS partition14:10
michael_2ubuntu found it but cant start the device14:10
michael_2device not ready14:11
blazemorereisio: I know, but I once heard you should have *some* swap for legacy reasons, so I do. More superstition than sysadmin ability14:11
f7hF11ActionPa1snip, msbrown: I know but I still wonder why it's like that. Probably to save screenspace on smaller screens, I suppose. But I don't know.14:11
HypnotiXDoes anyone know why on a virtual box when i try to open a webpage i lose connectio to the internet, this does not happen in firefox or ie14:11
blazemoremichael_2: Does your system have a make and model14:11
reisioblazemore: you can always nuke a swap partition and put anything in there14:11
reisioa rescue image...14:11
reisioyou can use it for clandestine partition resizing... all sorts of things14:12
michael_2i installed intel ucode and nothing happens, so i installed compat wireless driver and nothing happens14:12
msbrownreisio: blazemore : where does Hibernate storage go?14:12
michael_2i have a DELL XPS 17 but the wireless lan card i installed on my own14:12
reisiomsbrown: usually in the swap space14:12
blazemoremsbrown: It saves the entire snapshot of RAM to swap, and restores it on resume14:12
msbrownreisio: well, there ya go14:12
ltb30blazemore, can i qry you? :D im getting a bit confused with all these people talking at the same time14:12
blazemoremichael_2: What LAN card?14:12
reisiomsbrown: right, for laptops :)14:12
reisioand casual desktops14:12
michael_2Intel Centrino ultimate-n 630014:12
blazemoreltb30: DOn't query me, just preface each line with "blazemore:"14:12
ltb30ok.14:13
blazemoremichael_2: What Ubuntu version are you using?14:13
ltb30blazemore: why shouldnt i install ubuntu on my 2nd windows ntfs-partition?14:13
blazemoreltb30: Because Ubuntu can't run from an ntfs partition14:14
michael_2blazemore,  ubuntu 13.04 64bit14:14
ltb30blazemore: wubi installation ran on it^14:14
michael_2i also tried 12.04 and 12.1014:14
iceroot_ltb30: wubi is something different then a real ubuntu installation14:14
ltb30oh, ok14:14
iceroot_ltb30: and the ubuntu from wubi is also not using ntfs14:14
iceroot_ltb30: its using a special file which is for ubuntu itself an ext partition14:15
reisioltb30: if there's nothing on it, you can install to that patition _space_ just fine14:15
blazemoreltb30: Wubi is totally different, if you've been using wubi this entire time and I've been advising you on your partitioning, I'm deeply sorry for any problems14:15
michael_2blazemore, i also tried 12.04 and 12.1014:15
ltb30no, i want to switch from wubi to "real" ubuntu14:15
blazemoreltb30: You already "uninstalled" Ubuntu from within Windows?14:16
blazemoremichael_2: sudo apt-get install linux-firmware linux-firmware-nonfree14:16
ltb30blazemore: is there a possibility to kill a task in ubuntu? i just wanted to go back on the installation, but the installation window is frozen14:16
iceroot_ltb30: nice to hear that you like ubuntu and want to use a real installation now14:17
blazemoreltb30: Hit alt+f2, type xkill and hit enter14:17
michael_2i totaly like the feeling of ubuntu and i want to keep it, but my wireless lan is important. at the moment i put a wifi stick at a usb port, so i dont have to sit next through my router with a ethernet cable14:17
blazemorethe cursor will change to a skull (or an X) and you click the window you want to kill14:17
ltb30blazemore: thanks14:17
ltb30worked14:17
blazemoreout of interest, was it a skull or an x?14:17
ltb30a x14:17
blazemoreboring Ubuntu :(14:17
michael_2blazemore,  i already installed that14:18
blazemoreIt's weird, michael_2 , that is supposed to work out of the box. Are you sure there's not a hardware switch to enable/disable wireless14:18
michael_2there is a fn key, but nothing happens when i use them14:19
michael_2i think so too14:19
ltb30blazemore: so, double click on free space, what now? :)14:19
michael_2the usb wlan key works out of the box14:19
michael_2but the minipci card is a pain in the ass14:19
blazemoreltb30: Now you are creating a partition, so set the filesystem type to "ext4" and the mount point to "/"14:19
iceroot_!language | michael_214:19
ubottumichael_2: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional.14:19
blazemoreltb30: If there is a box to tick to select if you want to format, tick it14:20
michael_2sorry14:20
Naphatuli have a partition mounted at /mnt/Data but it isn't showing in nautilus, any way to fix it?14:20
Naphatulby not showing i mean not in the sidebar14:20
rvgateWhen using Unity in a dual monitor setup, how can i make sure the launcher icons are only displayed if the application is active on that monitor... by default it shows the icon on both, even tho its only displayed on one...14:20
blazemoreNaphatul: It's accessable at /mnt/data14:20
ltb30blazemore: http://i.imgur.com/0Y2L9n6.png14:20
blazemore/mnt/Data rather14:20
blazemoreNaphatul: And you can drag shortcuts to the sidebar14:20
ActionPa1snipNaphatul: navigate to the folder manually14:21
reisioNaphatul: add it to your bookmarks? :)14:21
blazemoreltb30: Einbindungspunkt: /14:21
ActionPa1snipNaphatul: in ALT+F2 run:  nautilus /mnt/Data14:21
blazemoreltb30: Then OK, you can carry on with the rest of the installation.14:22
NaphatulActionPa1snip: i know how to get to it but i can't get it to show in the sidebar14:22
michael_2blazemore,  any other idea?14:22
blazemore!wifi14:22
ubottuWireless documentation, including how-to guides and troubleshooting information, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs14:22
blazemoreOnly that michael_214:22
ltb30so blazemore: logic instead of primary, and as "einbindungspunkt"  : / ?14:23
Naphatuli opened the bookmarks but i don't see a add button? where am i supposed to find it?14:23
ActionPa1snipNaphatul: once in the folder, use the cog in the top right to add it to bookmarks14:23
michael_2it seems the hardware is correct installed but the device must be started with some command14:23
blazemoreNaphatul: have you tried just dragging the folder to the sidebar?14:23
Naphatulblazemore: yep, it tried copying stuff there14:23
michael_2i'am really new on ubuntu , so i dont know the commands for14:23
Naphatulif i dragged it on top of other stuff, if i didn't it just doesnt do anything14:23
blazemoreNaphatul: In between two other items, it's a bit fiddly14:24
neopsychehow do I remove certain backport modules14:24
Bl4CK-R41Nlook at this http://ctf365.com/ref/oBsktmpznR14:24
reisiomichael_2: what device is it?14:25
ltb30blazemore: the installer says i should use a SWAP partition...why? :/14:25
blazemore!spam | neopsyche14:25
Naphatulblazemore: it's more than a bit fiddly!14:25
neopsycheblazemore: why spam?14:25
blazemoresorry neopsyche14:25
reisioltb30: it's like virtual memory / page file in Windows14:25
michael_2reisio, intel centrino ultimate-n 630014:25
blazemoreBl4CK-R41N: don't spam please14:25
reisioltb30: also hibernation file14:25
neopsyche!spam | blazemore14:25
michael_2useally a great wifi card14:25
reisiomichael_2: a usb dongle?14:25
Naphatulanyway i added it to my bookmarks, thanks14:25
blazemoreNot only did I pipe the wrong person, but !spam isn't even a thing14:25
neopsychehow do I remove certain backport modules?14:25
reisioneopsyche: can't you just blacklist?14:26
michael_2no minipci card14:26
ltb30blazemore: what should i do? create a partition?14:26
neopsychereisio: how would i blacklist? I installed backport and now my wireless is not showing14:26
reisiomichael_2: lsmod | grep -i iwlagn14:27
neopsycheshould I re-install windows, to get my wireless back?14:27
michael_2reisio,  nothing happens with this command14:28
reisiois that a serious question?14:28
reisiomichael_2: ok14:28
michael_2reisio,  i have the iwlwifi driver...i think so14:28
reisiomichael_2: that the right one?14:29
michael_2i dont know14:29
reisiomichael_2: what version of ubuntu?14:29
michael_2reisio,  ubuntu 13.04, i also tried 12.04., 12.10 i installed intel driver ucode, compat wireless driver etc14:29
neopsycheaccidentally installed wrong wireless drivers how do i get back to original?14:30
reisioneopsyche: what'd you install?14:30
neopsychereisio: https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&cad=rja&ved=0CDAQFjAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.kernel.org%2Fpub%2Flinux%2Fkernel%2Fprojects%2Fbackports%2F2013%2F06%2F18%2F&ei=qSAWUruSH8u6hAej74CACw&usg=AFQjCNHwqFoMsp7E4vhHc43vFObPdRmWZA&bvm=bv.51156542,d.ZG414:31
reisioit's great how you can say what your distro is on ubuntuforums.org, so it's impossible to usefully search with strings like the distro name or version :p14:31
neopsychereisio: https://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/projects/backports/2013/06/18/14:32
DeliriumTremensI'm attempting to install 12.04LTS server from a USB drive, and the install is hanging when detecting the USB device...are there any flags I should be setting to bypass or mitigate that?14:33
DeliriumTremensusb 1-1: new high-speed USB device number 2 using ehci_hcd14:33
DeliriumTremensthen it hangs14:33
neopsychereisio: ?14:33
reisiomichaelni: so is iwlwifi in lsmod's output?14:34
reisioneopsyche: you know the name of the driver you were using?14:34
reisioDeliriumTremens: might try a minimal image14:35
neopsychereisio: whatever the default driver is which comes with ubuntu 13.04/10 for intel.14:35
DeliriumTremensreisio: i'll give it a shot, thanks14:36
neopsychewhy oh why can there not be a modular install/uninstall for all software like in ADD / REMOVE programs?14:36
reisioneopsyche: for random tarballs?14:37
reisiothee can be of course, but you have to have it setup ahead of time14:38
ikoniapeople need to stop pulling random kernel modules as blind fixes14:38
neopsychereisio: randmo 'exe's' show up in hwinfo / add remove if they are hardware driver packages. .. all programs are listed in one place (generally) program files.14:39
MonkeyDustneopsyche  it would be unsafe to encourage installing any random program, see windows and more recentely mobile apps14:39
DeliriumTremensreisio: no dice, i just get a black screen with minimal14:41
DeliriumTremensi'm beginning to think there is a hardware (mobo) issue with this workstation14:41
neopsychereisio: how can i roll back to original drivers?14:42
benjudahhey all14:43
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benjudahgot a question14:48
gordonjcp!ask | benjudah14:49
ubottubenjudah: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience14:49
mojtabaHi, I am using ubuntu 13.04 beside windows. Is it possible to clone windows partition for backup purposes, while I am in ubuntu?14:49
benjudahgot it14:49
mojtabaI want to make a backup and then shrink size of the windows partition14:49
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benjudahis it possible to  modify an old debien base to run a newer xwindow (say deb 2,2)14:51
msbrownmojtaba: you can use 'dd' to another space14:51
DJonesbenjudah: Probably best asking that in #debian rather than in the Ubuntu channel14:51
mojtabamsbrown: If shrinking failed, can I use dd to restore that partition again?14:51
neopsychereiso: ok i found the correct drivers.. how to install14:52
benjudahI thought that ubuntu is deb based14:52
Mnemonmojtaba: yes14:52
mojtabaMnemon: thanks14:53
DJonesbenjudah: It is, when you said an old debian base, I was assuming you meant you were using debian rather than Ubuntu though, if you're using debian then go ahead & ask here14:53
DJonesbenjudah: It is, when you said an old debian base, I was assuming you meant you were using debian rather than Ubuntu though, if you're using ubuntu (even) then go ahead & ask here14:53
Mnemonbenjudah: you want to upgrade old debian to ubuntu or what?14:54
guest0159632hello14:54
Mnemon'lo14:54
benjudahnot the old debien base will not work with newer hardware but I do have the full source was just wonder if it was poosible to  modify it to work14:55
guest0159632i have a question rgearding the "Ubuntu CD Welcome Page" and the "Ubuntu CD Advanced Welcome Page" which are shown in the pictures over there: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions14:55
msbrownmojtaba: yes, dd to the device is a "raw" write. you should read up on the options etc.14:55
guest0159632the question is: how to get those pages to show up when booting from a USB drive instead of a CD?14:55
msbrownmojtaba: if dd is scary, look up Clonezilla app14:55
guest0159632when using Unetbootin for creating the USB drive, then those pages do not show up and are replaced with a simple Unetbootin page14:56
Picibenjudah: Is your question about Ubuntu at all? If not, then you need to ask in #debian14:56
guest0159632so, does anyone here know how to make the "Ubuntu CD Welcome Page" or the "Ubuntu CD Advanced Welcome Page" show up when booting from USB drive?14:57
mojtabamsbrown: Can I use clonezilla while I am in ubuntu? or it needs me to boot with it?14:58
MonkeyDustguest0159632  ubuntu welcome page? what do you mean?14:58
benjudahwell I am getting the idea that I may not be able to with out rewriteing I supose can anyone get a deb 2.2 base to boot14:59
guest0159632MonkeyDust: first of all, thanks for your reply. i mean the "Ubuntu CD Welcome Page" and the "Ubuntu CD Advanced Welcome Page" which are shown in the pictures over there: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions14:59
msbrownmojtaba: i used it once a while ago, you'll need to read up on it15:00
AraneidaeHow do I set up a printer on lubuntu?  System Tools -> Printer has the relevant buttons greyed out.15:00
mojtabamsbrown: ok, thanks15:00
MonkeyDustguest0159632  basically: insert USB stick, boot from it, wait until screen appears15:00
FlyingmaskinHola15:01
AraneidaeI suspect I don't have CUPS installed for a start...15:01
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guest0159632MonkeyDust: but when using Unetbootin for creating the USB-drive, then i only get a screen like this: http://www.cheap-computing.com/image-files/how_to_backup_files_when_windows_wont_boot_2.jpg after that screen ubuntu boots straight to the desktop without those welcome pages15:02
MonkeyDustguest0159632  yes, it looks different, but has the same options, so you can safely continue15:03
guest0159632MonkeyDust: well, almost the same options. lange selection seems to be missing  for example. and it looking different is one of the problem ;D. the ubuntu welcome pages do look better ;)15:04
guest0159632-lange selection +language selection15:05
guest0159632can someone recommend another tool for creating a live usb drive (other than Unetbootin)?15:05
blazemoreLiLiusb15:06
blazemoreOn Windows, I don't use anything else15:06
MonkeyDustguest0159632  try MultiSystem15:06
MonkeyDustguest0159632  are you in windows now? if yes, it has Yummi or Yumma15:06
guest0159632just wondering: would it work to just extract the iso and copy the extracted content on a usb drive? is that enough to boot from it?15:08
okiboboI need a help with linux, sorry for my english15:08
holsteinokibobo: ask, with as much detail as possible15:09
okiboboI know, that this is ubuntu channel, but I have problem with debian gnome shell and in Debian channel I didnt found some solution15:09
okiboboholstein:15:09
holsteinokibobo: you'll need to be using ubuntu to use the real-time support of the volunteers here.. you can always refer to the wiki's for both ubuntu and debian on the subject15:10
okiboboholstein: I have problem, when I logged to my pc, gnome shell doesnt work, only in fallback mode15:10
MonkeyDustokibobo  this channel does not support distro's other than ubuntu15:11
holsteinokibobo: that is likely due to graphics card driver support..15:11
holsteinokibobo: running a 3d desktop will require 3d support on *any* operating system15:12
okiboboholstein: I know, but I have installed new driver and nothing15:12
holsteinokibobo: you dont need a "new" driver.. you need one with 3d support working and enabled..15:13
okiboboholstein:  and how can I do that?15:14
holsteinokibobo: i would go to the support channel for the operating system you are using, and inquire15:15
okiboboholstein: ok, thanks15:16
holsteinokibobo: or, load up and test or install ubuntu and the volunteers here can help you.. the answer unfortunately can be, you might not be able to have 3d support, if your hardware doesnt support linux15:16
bazhangokibobo, #debian15:16
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benjudahhow do u  findout what version of ubuntu u r useing .... this one ays  black buntu I have found from other places that it is ubuntu maveric 12 or somthing15:21
X-Userhello I am in a bit of problem here with ubuntu installation. I actually burnt 2 dvds with ISO file, 1 is not burnt successfully, and other is ok, now i am unable to identify which one is succeeded, though one DVD is 1.6Gb of size and another is 823Mb. its ubuntu 13.04. any help?15:21
zykotick9benjudah: "lsb_release -a" might help15:21
X-User64 bit BTW.15:21
blazemorebenjudah: cat /etc/issue15:22
blazemoreX-User: You can check the integrity before you install by selecting the relevant option from the boot menu of the CD when you boot from it15:22
zpierceHello, I have been trying to set up Oracle Database 11gR2 Express Edition in Ubuntu, and am having no luck.  Anyone on here that has experience with that and could offer help?15:23
blazemoreI'd recommend you do that anyway, even if you have no reason to suspect your burn was flaky15:23
blazemore!details | zpierce15:23
ubottuzpierce: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."15:23
zpierceubottu/blazemore, I followed this guide: http://meandmyubuntulinux.blogspot.com/2012/05/installing-oracle-11g-r2-express.html on a fresh install of Ubuntu 13.10, and Oracle failed to configure.  Following his troubleshooting instructions did not change it15:24
ubottuzpierce: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)15:24
blazemoreltb30: You don't *have* to create a swap partition, it's just a warning (sorry for slow reply. I assume you're sorted now)15:25
blazemorezpierce: 13.10 isn't out yet, and isn't supported15:25
zpierceSorry, 13.04, just upgraded from 12.1015:25
blazemorezpierce: Do you get an error? Can you put the full output of the part that's failing on http://paste.ubuntu.com15:26
X-Userblazemore, well, I am unable to understand what you said, but can anyone please confirm what is the file size of DVD after burning? the ISO file is about 823Mb, while one DVD is showing 1.6Gb and another is showing 821Mb. its Ubuntu 13.04 64-bit.15:26
benjudahthank u zykota  it is ubuntu 10.10 maveric15:26
zykotick9!tab > benjudah15:27
ubottubenjudah, please see my private message15:27
zpierceblazemore: Given the amount of config files that guide I linked requires changing, after it failed and the troubleshooting provided failed, I reinstalled Ubuntu (still 13.04) to make sure everything was undone.  So no, I do not have an error output.15:28
X-Userany help over here please?\15:28
benjudahis it poosible to get the distro to boot and setup from the hard drive rather thn always boot from the cd get I do a lot of software ttesting and am geting tired of reburning cd15:28
ActionPa1snipX-User: you will need the DVD ISO to burn to a DVD15:29
holsteinbenjudah: i use lots of USB options.. drivedroid from my android phone.. or just USB sticks15:29
holstein!debootstrap15:29
ubottudebootstrap is used to create a !Debian or Ubuntu base system from scratch, without requiring the availability of !dpkg or !APT. It does this by downloading !.deb files from a mirror site, and carefully unpacking them into a directory you can eventually !chroot into.  See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot for more information15:29
blazemoreholstein: is drivedroid like an isostick in software?15:30
X-UserActionPa1snip, what? I already installed it on one of my computer and worked perfectly with that DVD, now I am unable to understand which one i used because both DVDs are of same brand.15:31
blazemoreX-User: Pretend you were going to install Ubuntu. Instead of selecting Install from the boot CD menu, select to check the disk for errors15:31
holsteinblazemore: to the computer, it shows up like a drive to boot.. and works like a usb stick would.15:32
blazemoreX-User: That is the best way to be sure your installation medium is 100% correct before installing15:32
blazemoreholstein: Like I thought then, and you just give it iso files?15:32
holsteinblazemore: like unetbootin, there are features like autodownloading and searching, but you can use whatever iso files you want15:32
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holsteinblazemore: so far, its booted everything i have thrown at it15:33
blazemoreholstein: Yeah but does it do the whole unpacking, installing syslinux thing? Or does it "pretend" in software like how an isostick works in hardware?15:33
blazemoreie does it just use your phone as a USb flash drive, or is it cleverer than that and presents as a USb DVD drive with the iso "in" it?15:33
holsteinblazemore: TBH, im not sure.. i think it "pretends" though15:33
blazemoreIf the latter, my iso stick will start gathering dust15:33
X-Userblazemore, ok I kinda got a solution, I mounted the ISO file with Disk Image Mounter and it is showing around 821Mb, please confirm one thing, is the number of files in ISO and number of files in the Burned DVD are same? as this one DVd is showing the same number of file and file size with the mounted ISo.15:35
blazemoreX-User: Yes it will be identical15:35
blazemoreX-User: The point of the iso is it's a "disk image"15:35
blazemoreBut I *still* recommend you check the integrity first, I recommend everyone do that15:35
X-Userblazemore, I don't know for sake, why Brasero is still included. :O15:36
X-Userblazemore, ok, thanks.15:36
magdurguys i cant connect vpn with ubuntu 12.0415:38
k1l!details | magdur15:39
ubottumagdur: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."15:39
X-Userblazemore, Ok, so the DVD with 1.6Gb of File size is the one that got Error, as the ISo file is only 823Mb and 821Mb when mounted.15:39
Shadowandlightwhat is the correct way to do this command? "apt-get http://www.concrete5.org/download_file/-/view/57877/8497/"15:40
Shadowandlightits not fetching the file located there15:40
OerHeksShadowandlight, wget <url>15:41
Shadowandlightoh ty15:41
X-UserShadowandlight, apt-get is for installing softwares15:41
Shadowandlightah...15:41
magdur<k1l> when i try from here http://us.hotfreevpn.com i cant connect vpn service15:41
OerHeksShadowandlight, and after that, sudo dpkg -i <package.deb>15:41
magdur<k1l>  my os ubuntu 12.0415:42
tgm4883Does ubumirror actually work? I'm using almost a stock configuration and all I get is "Unexpected remote arg: archive.ubuntu.com::ubuntu/"15:42
Shadowandlighthmm wget only got the index.html15:43
enkindleI have (software) raid1 set up, last night I had a drive fail, I rebuilt it just fine. After rebooting today is rebuilding one of my partitions again even though /proc/mdstat shows [UU] for it.15:43
enkindleDoes anyone know why it would be resyncing again?15:43
ActionPa1snipenkindle: let it sync then reboot to test15:45
enkindleActionPa1snip, it fully resynced last night, I rebooted today and now its doing it again.15:46
vishwaprotimhey ny body there?15:46
deepfunkgood afternoon15:46
X-Uservishwaprotim, hello.15:46
X-Userdeepfunk, hello.15:47
vishwaprotimhello15:47
vishwaprotimI am new to ubuntu15:47
vishwaprotimjust installed it [13.04]  2 days ago15:47
vishwaprotimneed help about drivers15:47
deepfunki have a problem with ubuntu software center. is there no way to stop a download that has already stopped, because all the other downloads won't start because of it15:47
ActionPa1snipvishwaprotim: drivers for what?15:47
X-Uservishwaprotim, whay drivers?15:47
ActionPa1snipdeepfunk: what is the output of:  sudo apt-get -f update15:48
deepfunkkk15:48
deepfunk1 sec15:48
vishwaprotimits well 2 things, one is amd graphics and the other is ralink wifi and bluetooth15:48
ActionPa1snipvishwaprotim: which ralink do you have?15:48
vishwaprotimrt 329015:48
ActionPa1snipvishwaprotim: is the OS fully updated?15:48
vishwaprotimyes15:48
deepfunkresource temporarily unavailable15:49
vishwaprotimubuntu cant detect my wifi driver15:49
ActionPa1snipdeepfunk: can you pastebin the full output please15:49
X-UserActionPa1snip, is ndiswrapper needed?15:49
deepfunkE: Não foi possível obter acesso exclusivo a /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable) E: Impossível criar acesso exclusivo ao directório /var/lib/apt/lists/15:49
mojtabaHi, Is it possible to add GPU power to the laptop externally?15:49
ActionPa1snipvishwaprotim: http://rricketts.com/installing-ralink-rt3290-wireless-drivers-in-ubuntu-12-04/15:50
X-Usermojtaba, no15:50
ActionPa1snipmojtaba: no15:50
ActionPa1snip!aptfix | deepfunk15:50
ubottudeepfunk: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »15:50
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vishwaprotimwell I have gone through that site already but not much help15:51
ActionPa1snipvishwaprotim: seems the 3.7 and later kernel has the driver15:51
ActionPa1snipvishwaprotim: http://blog.deimos.fr/2012/11/17/ubuntu-12-11-wifi-ralink-rt-3290/15:51
deepfunkerror while processing mandb15:51
ActionPa1snipdeepfunk: instead of giving tiny sections of the output. use a pastebin and give it ALL15:52
vishwaprotimopening bluetooth in system settings shows no BT adapters found15:52
X-UserActionPa1snip, again one question, will the ISO file size/ number of files and the Burned DVD file size /number of files will be same?15:52
vishwaprotimwell how can I know which kernel version I am using?15:52
vishwaprotimand how to upgrade a kernel?15:52
vishwaprotimp.s. I am new to linux15:53
X-Uservishwaprotim, uname -a15:53
X-Uservishwaprotim, in terminal15:53
holsteinvishwaprotim: if you are new, i would just try a live CD that has a newer kernel by default.. test the hardware, and consider reinstalling15:53
vishwaprotimtried reinstalling15:53
deepfunkActionPalsnip: the download is working now! thanks!15:53
X-UserActionPa1snip, any reply please?15:53
vishwaprotimbut nothing happened15:53
vishwaprotimokay I ran that command and here is theoutput15:54
vishwaprotimLinux vishwaHP-Paviliong6 3.8.0-29-generic #42-Ubuntu SMP Tue Aug 13 19:40:39 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux15:54
fahad_looking for developers15:55
vishwaprotimI am learning linux in college15:55
fahad_any freelancers here ?15:55
vishwaprotimand found it really better than windows15:56
X-Uservishwaprotim, read a book on it.15:56
vishwaprotimwell I have gone through a number of websites15:56
OerHeks!manual15:56
ubottuThe Ubuntu Manual will help you become familiar with everyday tasks such as surfing the web, listening to music and scanning documents. With an emphasis on easy to follow instructions, it is suitable for all levels of experience. http://ubuntu-manual.org/15:56
vishwaprotimmany said it is a bug15:56
vishwaprotimI am a bit familiar with ubuntu as I have used it in virtual machine [win 8]15:57
X-Uservishwaprotim, what is a bug?15:57
vishwaprotimand when i gained a bit confidence, replaced win 8 with ubuntu and these problems arose15:57
vishwaprotima bug?15:57
X-Uservishwaprotim, u told that15:58
compdocvishwaprotim, best not to update the kernel on your own15:58
compdocits done for you15:58
X-User!kernel | vishwaprotim15:59
ubottuvishwaprotim: The core of Ubuntu is the Linux kernel: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel - You shouldn't have to compile your own, and if you need to troubleshoot issues, you can try a !Mainline kernel instead, but if you insist, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile (see also !Stages)15:59
dstevensdoes anyone know when ubuntu are officially releasing php 5.4 + version ?15:59
dstevenspreferably on a lts release16:00
vishwaprotimI think with sudo apt-get update && get-upgrade ubuntu automatically updates from the terminal, right?16:00
dstevensvishwaprotim: yes sir !16:00
holsteinvishwaprotim: i use "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"16:00
vishwaprotimI tried many times16:01
vishwaprotimwell gone through the net  and followed the instructions16:01
dstevensdist-upgrade , holstein gave answer ...16:01
holsteinvishwaprotim: follow my *exact* answer.. the one you gave has syntax issues16:01
OerHeksdstevens, 12.04 lts keeps the 5.3.10, > https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/php516:01
compdocvishwaprotim, run them one at a time:  sudo apt-get update, and watch for errors. then run:  sudo apt-get dist-upgrade16:02
OerHeksdstevens upgrade, or wait until 14.0416:02
moondogholstein: what do you believe the dist-upgrade does?16:02
vishwaprotimone said to download the driver, then use sth like sudo su then make then make install16:02
vishwaprotimafter that I get ath like error 1 and error 216:03
vishwaprotim*sth16:03
dstevensOerHeks: Arhh so the next lts release 14.04 should have 5.4+ thanks buddy16:03
holsteinmoondog: i dont.. i look it up and *know* what it does.. it does *not* upgrade the distrobution16:03
moondogI have looked it up16:03
vishwaprotimokay...another thing, the graphix problem16:03
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holsteinvishwaprotim: upgrade.. then, test.. then, see what "fixes" are not applied and go from there16:03
OerHeksdstevens, next release suasy has 5.5.x16:04
convoihello16:04
OerHekssaucy*16:04
raubHow nice is the intel 5100 card in ubuntu?16:04
vishwaprotimWhat I tried is open sys settings->softwares and updates-> additional dr. ->16:04
convoihi Ari-Yang16:04
vishwaprotimI tried installing the properitary one16:04
Ari-Yanghi convoi16:04
vishwaprotimand after i reboot16:04
vishwaprotimunity crashes16:04
Ari-Yangconvoi, did everything work out?16:04
ActionPa1snipdeepfunk: sweet16:04
Ari-Yangno more heating?16:04
vishwaprotimI mean i just get a blank screen16:04
vishwaprotimwell i again had to remove them and use ccsm to enable unity16:05
dstevensOerHeks: Lol The Saucy Salamander has 5.5.x nice16:05
S3Xinfohttp://s3x.info/legs-up-full-view-of-beautiful-shaved-pussy-3/16:05
holsteinvishwaprotim: using the open drivers are always an option16:05
vishwaprotimyes16:05
moondogholstein: I don't suppose this is a discussion channel, but I'd be interesting in knowing why one would do an apt-get upgrade *and* an apt-get dist-upgrade16:06
vishwaprotimand open drivers work well fro me16:06
vishwaprotim*for16:06
convoiAri-Yang, i dont know why after when i upgrade ubuntu, xubuntu, voyager my desktop resolution was wrong. now i am using linux lite16:06
holsteinvishwaprotim: TBH, all the hardware you are having issues with may not work properly.. what would i do? upgrade the pacakages and test and see if "fixes" have come in.. then go from there16:06
vishwaprotimbut okay, let me tell you the entire thing16:06
Ari-Yangconvoi, I see....16:06
convoiwith voyager, linuxmint - my laptop freeze at boot screen16:07
vishwaprotimI tried installing bjeweled 3 game using wine16:07
vishwaprotimand in game settings, enabling 3d acceleration doesnt work16:07
vishwaprotimso I thought of installing prop. drivers16:07
vishwaprotimbut got a blank dektop as a result16:08
holsteinmoondog: http://askubuntu.com/questions/194651/why-use-apt-get-upgrade-instead-of-apt-get-dist-upgrade , in particular.. "dist-upgrade option can "intelligently" handle changes in the dependencies system"16:08
moondogthanks!16:08
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convoii cant say goodbye linux 'cause i love the feeling when type a command and view the process is running ^^16:10
raubi thought that dist-upgrade implied changes that might require rebooting while upgrade wouldn't16:10
holsteinraub: nothing to do with a reboot, AFAIK.. either you need to reboot for a kernel upgrade or not16:11
raubholstein: but apt-get upgrade will hold back kernel upgrades while dist-upgrade won't16:12
holsteinraub: still, nothing about that command means you should or shouldnt reboot.. if you run "apt-get dist-upgrade", and take advantage of its arguable perks, and dont get a kernel upgrade, you dont need to reboot16:13
vishwaprotimplease help me regarding these two issues16:14
holsteinvishwaprotim: you listed 3, friend.. and have you applied the upgrades to the packages?16:14
vishwaprotimyes16:15
holsteingraphics + wifi + bluetooth = 316:15
vishwaprotimI have16:15
vishwaprotimoh...okay...316:15
holsteinvishwaprotim: in a terminal.. "sudo apt-get update".. any errors?16:15
vishwaprotimlemme try16:15
vishwaprotim1 min pls16:15
vishwaprotimno errors16:16
holsteinvishwaprotim: then, "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade".. any errors?16:16
pranadoes anyone know where to find dbgsym packages for the 12.04 LTS quantal kernels? (it doesnt look like they are on ddebs.ubuntu.com)16:16
vishwaprotimhere is the output for dist-upgrade : 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.16:17
holsteinvishwaprotim: ok.. reboot in case you took a kernel upgrade and didnt reboot16:18
pranait also doesn't look like they are here https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/+source/linux-lts-quantal16:19
vishwaprotimall the softs, and kernel are uptodate16:19
holsteinvishwaprotim: and, you have rebooted? as i asked?16:19
holsteinvishwaprotim: you need to reboot to use the kernel that was potentially upgraded16:19
holsteinvishwaprotim: please, even if you think, or know you did not take any kernel upgrade, reboot the machine as i ask16:20
vishwaprotimokay16:20
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Guest69807what ?16:27
* Guest69807 hello16:28
vishwaprotimso rebooted, now what next?16:29
michael_2Hello it's me again16:29
michael_2Wifi is still not working16:29
michael_2its so desperate16:29
Guest73651can someone help me find getlibs?16:30
Guest73651I am extremely desperate16:30
Guest73651it seems to be removed from every corner of the known universe16:30
AngelolbI need some help about Ubuntu16:31
Guest69807guest73*** @ try this http://web.archive.org/web/20080508210022/www.boundlesssupremacy.com/Cappy/getlibs/16:31
holsteinGuest69807: what are you trying to do? maybe a volunteer can help you with a current package or idea16:32
Alagarany one can help me, how to write own custom chain  in iptables16:32
holsteinGuest73651: ^^16:32
holsteinvishwaprotim: test the wifi..16:32
holstein!wifi | michael_216:33
ubottumichael_2: Wireless documentation, including how-to guides and troubleshooting information, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs16:33
vishwaprotimit is still off16:33
michael_2Hello Holstein, i already tried this16:33
AngelolbI'm not able to access the windows, but it's in the Grub...how to fix it?16:33
vishwaprotimI even cant toggle it on/off using fn keys in the laptop16:33
Angelolbjust installed ubuntu...16:34
holsteinvishwaprotim: what would i do? for both you and michael_2 .. i would test the wifi chip in a supported OS.. i would test the function keys and make sure its enabled.. i would try other live CD's. i would search.. i would try the windows driver with ndis-gtk.. i would keep in mind that my hardware may *never* work in linux, since the hardware manufacters dont officially support linux16:34
pranaah, figured it out. need ddebs with the precise-updates distro.16:34
Guest73651Guest69807: it's been removed too16:35
vishwaprotimah...well its really bad :(16:37
vishwaprotimI downloaded driver file from ralink site, extracted it->edited config.mk->sudo su->make->make install -> sth like error 1 and error 216:38
vishwaprotim:(16:38
holsteinvishwaprotim: if you want a driver from that site, that site will support you..16:38
Guest73651is there a way to get wine 1.2.2 without compiling?16:39
Angelolbsomeone could help me?16:39
holstein!ask Angelolb16:40
OerHeksGuest73651, current wine in Raring ia 1.4.1, why do you want a previous version?16:40
Guest73651OerHeks: new version has errors running what I need it to.  Old version has platinum rating.16:41
wgoldenGood afternoon :) was wondering if anyone could help me get my Cisco AE2500 wireless dongle working on ubuntu 1216:43
OerHeksGuest73651, install Lucid 10.04, but that version is no longer supported. since Lucid, a lot of things and dependencies has changed.16:43
Elishain ubuntu LTS 12.04 LTS rev2 there was 3.5 kernel, now in rev3 there's 3.2 kernel16:46
Elishais that correct?16:46
gregLwgolden, http://www.grailbox.com/2012/05/installing-cisco-linksys-ae2500-wireless-adapter-in-linux/16:47
Guest73651OerHeks: getlibs would allow me to keep my current system, as I could install the native linux client of he software i need.  do you have a file or know how to get it?  I've looked everywhere and can't find it.16:47
OerHeksGuest73651, no i don't as i never heard of getlibs16:48
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OerHeksElisha, 12.04.2 has the 3.2 kernel too.16:49
Guest73651OerHeks: i need to run 32 bit libs on my 64 bit system.  that's what it does.  do you know of a working alternative?16:49
Elishawhy then if I install it writes 3.516:49
ElishaI have server version16:50
OmSaihi all, I'm trying to install gTimelapse from source, and it complains that pkg-config cannot find libgphoto2.  I have libgphoto2 installed, but `dpkg -L libgphoto2-2` shows there is no .pc file installed.  Is it sane to expect this file to be there?16:50
OerHeksGuest73651, i guess you want the ia32-libs package ?16:50
ElishaOerHeks: Linux private-server-filter 3.5.0-23-generic #35~precise1-Ubuntu SMP Fri Jan 25 17:13:26 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux16:51
Orioaanyone here know about graphics i have dual monitors  graphics card is nvidia not sure what is best driver16:51
OerHeksGuest73651, since 11.10 ubuntu is multiarch > http://askubuntu.com/questions/107230/what-happened-to-the-ia32-libs-package16:51
trismOmSai: it would be in the -dev package if it exists16:51
Orioaadditional drivers list 3 drivers available one installed but other 2 are same ones16:51
OmSaitrism: thanks16:51
Orioaand second monitor is not detected16:52
trismOmSai: and it seems to be: libgphoto2-2-dev16:52
OerHeksElisha, did you enable backports? that might be the case for having a newer kernel version?16:52
Elishadefault iso installation16:53
Elishano custom setup16:53
wgoldengregL im using 64bit, i tried installing the xp drivers but using ndiswrapper -l to verify says its an invalid driver16:53
tmmunq64bit drivers?16:54
ElishaI don't mind, just weird that noticed it's not 3.5 anymore, probably some glitch in installation16:54
Elishaor kernel build repository16:54
Guest73651OerHeks: thanks OerHeks.  I found something else that may solve the issue while looking for that.  God bless.16:54
michael_2holstein,  there is a website with Drivers for my wifi card, but i dont unterstand the install proces16:57
michael_2process*16:57
holsteinmichael_2: the website would supply instructions16:57
Orioai take it no one knows about drivers for graphics16:58
michael_2holstein,  yes it does, but i'm absolutly new at ubuntu. I want learan ubuntu slowly, but thats the hardway :D16:58
ardian_I have about 30 computers I want to install inkscape on all of them is there any way to make this process faster, I mean install them automaticlly in all computers16:58
loinhi guys, i can't get my monitor connected via hdmi to work on my laptop16:58
loinhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/6014691/16:59
opalepatricknew install of mysql on 13.04 64bit using up nearly 100% cpu then climbs up to nearly 100% memory, anyone seen any reference to this problem? Both new clean working installs.17:00
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michael_2holstein,  this is the website: http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/iwlwifi   i don't understand this firmware Thing17:02
vishwaprotimguys please have a look at this post at the top...similar case for me also17:04
vishwaprotimhttp://forum.novatech.co.uk/showthread.php?25562-How-to-get-the-RAlink-3290-wireless-working17:04
mayhewI'm about to buy an LGA 1150 motherboard and was wondering if there's anything I should  look out for to ensure it works well with Linux - what type of ethernet brand(s) work  best on Linux? Any quirks I should know of before I purchase?17:06
opalepatrickmayhew, this may be useful http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/desktop/ not sure if it is bang up to date17:09
michael_2usr13,  are you there?17:10
mayhewopalepatrick: thanks17:10
Elishamayhew: I all boils down to kernel17:10
mayhewElisha: yeah I know, I just want to ensure my NIC has open source drivers17:10
GeraldLGA1150 is for Haswell.  Haswell integrates a lot of the Mobo parts into the processor.  I think you should be safe regardless of what you get17:11
Extreminadorwhere can i found in ubuntu the terminal icon ?17:11
Extreminadorthe image it self17:11
smallfoot/usr/share/icons/17:11
Extreminadorsmallfoot thanks17:11
smallfoot:917:11
smallfootnp17:11
mayhewGerald: a friend of mine has an LGA1150 and wired ethernet doesn't work out of the box.. I want to avoid that17:11
smallfootmayhew, Maybe he has piece-of-shit Atheros/Bigfoot KillerNIC or something dumb like that, it would probably work if he had Intel or Realtek NIC17:12
mayhewsmallfoot: yeah, it's a MSI mobo with KillerNIC.. so Intel and Realtek tend to be open source friendly?17:12
mayhewThe mobo I was thinking of getting has an Intel i217V LAN chipset, couldn't really find out if that was supported or not via Google.17:14
goddardafter my last update for some reason firefox and thunderbird wont start17:14
goddard(process:4592): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_slice_set_config: assertion `sys_page_size == 0' failed17:14
goddardCould not create gnome accelerators directory `/home/goddard/.gnome2/accels': Permission denied17:14
DX099hello, I'm trying to make a live USB of Ubuntu 12.10 but I'm only getting errors : "boot error" or "isolinux.bin missing" I tried dd, I tried Ubuntu's default live usb creator with no success... My HDD is dying, I need a live system to make an image that I can restore on the new one, but nothing is working... now I even loose touchpad from one boot to another... please help.17:14
DX099I even tried unetbootin installers on windows that used to work for me, but this time, I got that "boot error" message. Grub also warns me everytime I boot that system is "trying to read or write outside of /dev/hdd0"...17:16
Ari-Yanghmmm.... So I updated my FireFox from 22.0 to 23.0 (I'm on ubuntu 12.10), and like after every 8-10min pages won't load, so then I turn off my laptop's wifi for a 10sec and turn it back on, spam out the 'Try Again' reload button and the page loads fine. It happens ever other 8-10min, why is that? Is there a bug with FireFox 23 or is it my internet that is acting up?17:18
ezra-sAri-Yang, sounds like your internet17:19
Ari-Yangezra-s, yeah, I think so too tbh ;/17:20
ezra-sAri-Yang, easy to check though... run another program to check17:20
ezra-schrome17:20
ezra-schromium17:20
ezra-sor whatever other you may have installed17:20
Ari-Yangezra-s, I don't have that installed, though my IRC connection is just fine ethough...17:20
goddardDX099: the flash drives in my experience are touchy, but I successfully got Ubuntu 13.04 working with http://www.pendrivelinux.com/17:20
vishwaprotimhey guys....what should I do next?17:20
Ari-Yangduring the time firefox stops loading pages, I'm still connected to IRC, ezra-s17:20
Ari-Yangwhich I find interesting....17:20
goddardDX099: i manually downloaded the iso from the Ubuntu website17:21
ezra-sAri-Yang, then it is not a network thing17:21
ezra-sAri-Yang, try installing another browser, sudo apt-get install chromium17:21
Ari-Yangezra-s, okay, I will in a bit, I'll get back to you when I try it.17:21
ezra-s"sudo apt-get install chromium-browser"17:21
goddardAri-Yang: i am having similar issues with my connection17:22
Ari-Yanggoddard: Interesting :o17:22
goddardAri-Yang: it gets slow sometimes17:22
DX099goddard, which creator did you used ? It seems that website is listing USB live creators17:22
ezra-swifi sucks really17:22
goddardsometimes it wont load17:22
Ari-Yanggoddard, but not with IRC? like you're still connected?17:22
ezra-snever had a wifi router or hub which never gave me problems17:22
vishwaprotimwifi problem still persists17:23
vishwaprotim:(17:23
ezra-snothing like good'ol ethernet17:23
goddardDX099: the USB installer17:23
goddardAri-Yang: it will lag out in irc some times17:23
* ezra-s thinking of wiring his house with optic fibre ;P17:23
goddardAri-Yang: this is a brand new system so it doesn't make sense17:23
DX099goddard, you meand "Universal USB installer" ?17:23
goddardDX099: ya use that one17:24
DX099goddard, I'm on linux17:24
DX099goddard, I don't have access to any windows machine...17:24
goddardDX099: thats how i did it17:24
Ari-Yanggoddard, ah, well my IRC connection is just fine... during the time when firefox farts, and I disable my wifi for 10sec, I'm still connected to IRC (after those 10sec pass I turn it back on and FireFox loads pages again)17:24
goddardDX099: i tried the ubuntu start disk creator and it failed17:24
goddardAri-Yang: maybe cache issue17:25
Ari-Yanggoddard, oh?17:25
Nach0zAri-Yang: IRC's fairly resilient as far as disconnects go17:25
Nach0zI've had the power blink in my house before for like, fifteen seconds, when the router came back online my IRC client was like, "Disconnect? What disconnect?"17:26
Ari-YangNach0z, heh..17:26
DX099goddard, that's what I'm saying didn't work for me either17:26
goddardDX099: im telling you how i got it working ironically i had to use a windows machine17:26
Ari-Yanggoddard, I think I'll clear the cache17:26
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FatDarrelneed some help with ddclient17:28
KalelGreetings..17:29
xirreps -p [pid] -o pcpu > \'[cpu_file]\' -- This prints the CPU. But I noticed that it doesn't print it accurately all the time. What commands can I run to get a more accurate reading?? I'm not highly experienced either. I just was wondering how I can get a good reading and print it to a file for reading later.17:29
FatDarreldoes anyone use ddclient17:30
KalelI would like to know, how can I make my smartphone connected in usb be recognized by windows in the Virtual Box?17:31
MightykInstall virtualbox extension pack..select mass storage mode in your smartphone17:32
DX099goddard, yes usually I would also get it working by using an installer on windows but this time, it failed17:32
Kalelfellas?717:32
OerHeksxirre > less /proc/cpuinfo | grep "model name"17:33
xirremodel name: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-2620M CPU @ 2.70GHz17:34
kahuFor my office environment I would like to set up Standard users, but be able to administrate on their account when needed as sudo.  Can I switch to an Admin account from within Terminal when I'm on a Standard user session?17:35
xirreOerHeks: model name: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-2620M CPU @ 2.70GHz17:36
OerHeksxirre nice17:36
tmmunqyour users need to be sudoers17:36
xirreThank u.17:36
xirreThank you*.17:36
xirreAnd how would I go about telling the CPU usage of each process as well as outputting the more accurate reading to a .txt file to be read for other means? :o17:37
xirreWas just curious.17:37
HackerIIxirre  cat /proc/cpuinfo17:38
Extreminadorin e17 desktop enviroment when we are exploring the directorys i don´t see any shortcut to move back/down directory17:38
Extreminadorhow can i move back to the older directory path ?17:38
kahu@tmmunq: OK, that's what it seems, but seems unfortunate.  If this must be I'll work around it. OpenSUSE allows for an Admin user to become the username set when a sudo password is required.17:38
vishwaprotimhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/118972117:39
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1189721 in linux (Ubuntu) "Ralink RT3290 needs bluetooth driver" [Medium,Incomplete]17:39
Extreminadorforget backspace works for that17:39
vishwaprotimit says that my driver wont support bt17:39
vishwaprotimbut it should have supported wifi17:39
vishwaprotimcan ny body help me regarding this/17:39
vishwaprotim*?17:39
kahu It seems Ubuntu Software has this sorted out: I can be a standard user and install/remove software packages through the GUI and a gksudo prompt appears with the Administrator username.17:39
xirreHackerII: How does that help.17:40
HackerIIit gives you the name17:40
kahuI'd like to be able to gksudo -k -u ADMIN to switch users within Terminal by providing an Admin password, but I can't if I'm not in sudoers it seems17:40
xirreOh. No. I wanted to write the CPU % reading to a separate file.17:40
xirreBut I wanted it more accurate.17:41
HackerIIic ok17:41
xirreLol. Sorry if I was being confusing!17:41
HackerIIit was me17:41
xirreSo do you have any idea as to how I'd go about this?17:41
OerHeksxirre see this askubuntu page >> http://askubuntu.com/questions/68741/finding-cpu-usage-from-top-command17:42
deepfunkhey again17:43
deepfunki'm trying to create a virtual machine on ubuntu 13.04 but i can't seem to find the best tutorial17:43
deepfunkdoes anyone know a good tutorial?17:43
whoeverdesignbybeck_: what vm are you using17:44
whoeverdeepfunk: what vm are you using17:44
xirreOerHeks: Okay. I tried top. Just didn't have any luck with printing. I'll try that right now.17:45
deepfunki want to use VMware17:45
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whoeverdeepfunk: any reason why  , and why not virtualbox17:45
deepfunkis it better?17:45
whoeverdeepfunk: thats subjective but i couldn't find any good ones either ,17:46
Ari-Yanggoddard, clearing the cache didn't work :/ I'll try out chromium next.17:46
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deepfunkok17:46
whoeverdeepfunk: i have  done it so ill talk you through it. do you have vmvare workstation, installed ? if not youll have to dowload it17:47
whoeverdeepfunk: its not in the repos, so you can dl it how ever you see fit17:47
deepfunkvirtualbox»17:48
deepfunk?17:48
ale12ciao17:48
ale12!list17:48
ubottuale12: No warez here! This is not a file sharing channel (or network); read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot ». If you're looking for a channel, see « /msg ubottu !alis ».17:48
dsdfsadHi, quick newbie question. i have squid installed over ubuntu,. as i edit the conf file, my ssh sessions got terminated due to network problem. as soon as i log in, i try to edit the file i get the message that file is being used. and i get the PID number, my question. would it be enough to kill the pid? will something happen to the conf file?17:48
jasp3rI, accidentally deleted my Downloads folder and tried to recover using 'testdisk' but no luck. Any help ? Perhaps using extundelete  ?17:48
whoeverdeepfunk: so now you want to use virtualbox ?17:49
deepfunkyes17:49
goddardAri-Yang: how is your disk and memory health17:49
msbrowndeepfunk: some hints https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware17:49
whoeverdeepfunk: any reason why you changed your mind17:49
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deepfunkif it's better i can try it17:50
tmmunqjust use virtualbox, its a lot easier to use and friendly to linux than vmware. downloading the version from virtualbox.org is best17:50
whoeverdeepfunk: "better" for any application is often subjective not objective17:50
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dsdfsadanyone can help?17:51
Ari-Yanggoddard, just fine. I think the problem is my internet tbh, it's been acting up all week. Though maybe I'll go back to FireFox 22.0 if I still have the .deb for it, where is it kept?17:51
whoeverdeepfunk: so that beeing said. how new are you17:51
deepfunkvery new17:51
Ari-Yangofftopic... where do I go to report a spam bot nick that pmed me?....17:51
Ari-Yangwhat channel here on freenode?17:51
whoeverdeepfunk: ok, have you used  virtual machines in windows  before17:52
Nach0zhonestly I think there's actually a policy against reporting spambots17:52
Nach0zevery time I try they're like STOP TALKING ABOUT THE SPAMBOTS IT MAKES YOU A SPAMMER17:52
Ari-Yangoh nvm, the spam bot is Twatslimer... (he's here on this ubuntu channel)17:52
deepfunkno17:53
PiciNach0z: there is no such policy.17:53
honestlyAri-Yang: #help17:53
whoeverdeepfunk: ok. have you even used windows before ?17:53
PiciAri-Yang: can you pm me the message?>17:53
Nach0zPici: maybe not a written policy but I've never gotten anything but "SHUT UP" before when trying to report them.17:53
deepfunkyes i used windows before17:55
whoeverdeepfunk: ok, now vmware is more main steam with windows , and virtualbox is ususally the choice on linux type systems and you can use vmware images in virtualbox. so now i will let you pick which one you want to use, if you have any questions , don't hezitate to ask17:57
deepfunkok, Virtual box17:58
mackwerk__Hello! I am trying to keep load down on my postgres server while running a backup with barman so I wondered if its possible to renice on the barman pid only or if I have to do it on all processes that has something to do with the backup?17:59
whoeverdeepfunk: ok,  I assume you are using the gui to install instead of command linee, so go ubuntu software update center and look for virtualbox and virtualbox gues additions18:00
BIGTONEI'm having problems with xchat!18:00
whoeverdeepfunk: install bote18:00
whoever*both18:00
goddardAri-Yang: you download the deb file?18:00
goddardAri-Yang: should just be apt-get install firefox18:00
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goddardAri-Yang: you could try purging it if you dont mind losing settings and such18:01
Ari-Yanggoddard, I updated Firefox from 21.0 to 22.0 via ubuntu software updater, and the same for updating from 22.0 to 23.0. does ubuntu keep the .deb files of previous versions?18:01
FatDarrelDoes anyone here use ddclient18:01
scorp1usHi all, i pulled my disk and put it in a new machine with a differnt but close video car (both radeons) it isn't rending right. How can I fix it?18:02
goddarddsdfsad: i doubt anything will happen to the conf file18:02
goddarddsdfsad: have you tried making a copy?18:03
goddardjust in case18:03
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dsdfsadthe problem is i editeed it, and im not sure if killing it will save the changes (which i dont want it to)18:03
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BluesKajscorp1us, check additional drivers , alt+F218:04
scorp1usok then what?18:04
scorp1usthat just asks me for a command18:04
BluesKajchoose the recommended driver18:04
dsdfsadwill the command kill (pid) be enough? or more is needed?18:04
BluesKajyeah , additional drivers , command18:05
scorp1usHrm, I am in mint18:05
goddarddsdfsad: if you made changes to the file and saved them, but it wouldn't let you write?18:05
BluesKaj!linux-mint18:05
goddarddsdfsad: if you wrote to the file the changes are in the file18:05
BluesKaj!linuxmint18:05
IdleOne!mint18:05
ubottuLinux Mint is not a supported derivative of Ubuntu. Please seek support in #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org18:05
goddarddsdfsad: the program probably reads the file at boot up18:05
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majornickhttp://askubuntu.com/questions/48215/password-not-working-in-graphical-applications-gksu-works-with-sudo everyone should know about this18:06
goddarddsdfsad: that should do it18:06
dsdfsadok, thanks. i hope it will work out18:06
deepfunkdone18:08
deepfunkI've installed Virtual box18:08
majornickanyone know how to diable java script on firefox completley?18:08
goddardmajornick: noscript18:09
Nach0zmajornick: noscript, or I think there's actually a firefox setting18:09
goddardmajornick: its pretty hard to completely disable javascript on sites nowadays18:09
goddardnothing will work18:09
Nach0zhuh. nope. no setting. nevermind. Used to be one18:10
AmpelbeinNach0z: The checkbox got removed, you can still disable it in about:config18:10
majornicki was listening to this Linux for the rest of us" podcast and this guy was saying that he uses no java script and i sen another guy on here before did the same thing. but its cool i got bigger fish to fry and like web brosing so i should keep that one.18:10
Nach0zAmpelbein: ah gotcha. thanks.18:12
kurtwpI did the googles to find help on issues I am having with my VPN but could come up wiht anything that works.  I cann connect to the VPN but cannot ping any of the remote servers - using 13.0418:15
compdockurtwp, thats pretty common18:16
[Gentoo]maybe they have icmp blocked18:16
kurtwpno18:16
kurtwpwin 7 pc has no issue18:16
compdockurtwp, what OS is running on the remote servers?18:17
kurtwpeverthing from solaris to redhat, opensuse18:17
kurtwpagain the win7 pc next to the ubuntu pc has no issue access any of the devices18:18
kurtwpsame nwtwork going to the same far end VPN ip18:18
kurtwpusing Cisco Connect on win718:18
compdockurtwp, if you run 'tcpdump -v icmp' on any of the linux servers that have the tcpdump program, I'm betting you will see that your pings are reaching the server18:19
goddardkurtwp: i had troubles setting up VPN on ubuntu as well18:19
deepfunkso i have installed virtual box, now what do i do next to create a virtual machine?18:19
kurtwpdone that18:20
kurtwpno dice18:20
kurtwpnot reaching18:20
kurtwpfrom the ubuntu PC18:20
goddarddeepfunk: ask in the virtual box channel18:20
[Gentoo]deepfunk: just click new top left18:21
[Gentoo]then follow through the defaults will probably be ok, choose the iso to boot from18:21
compdockurtwp, then you arent connecting18:21
kurtwpI disagree I get an IP18:22
deepfunkkk tx18:22
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DougsTechI want a taco18:22
DougsTechits lunch time18:22
deepfunknew top left?18:22
whoeverdeepfunk: if it is windows you will want ~250G for hd size , if anything else you can get way with about 50GB18:22
deepfunki can't see it?18:22
[Gentoo]deepfunk: google it you will find millions of tutorials18:22
whoeverdeepfunk: top left of the virtalbox gui to create a new machine,18:23
whoeverdeepfunk: each os is a new madhine18:23
deepfunkoh kk18:24
deepfunkthank you18:24
goddardDougsTech: hook me up18:25
goddardya just YouTube it18:25
DougsTechgoddard, what about a 5 layer burrito?18:25
goddardDougsTech: that sounds bomb18:26
bazhang!ot | DougsTech goddard18:26
ubottuDougsTech goddard: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!18:26
DougsTechlol18:26
snowrichardhi18:28
goddardsnowrichard: no talking in the channel only questions18:29
badassguys I need some serious help18:30
IdleOnegoddard: Please don't chase away users because they say hi or hello.18:30
badassno one more knowledgable than I has really dug into my issue as of yet18:30
BluesKajbadass, then ask your question18:30
badassand I would really appreciate it if someone could help, I've asked several times with no response18:31
badassI've posted on the forums: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=216947718:31
goddardIdleOne: Please stop talking in the chat room if you want to enforce you policy please use a private message18:31
badassI'm just hoping someone here will take the time to read18:31
badassI basically am having problems with the require_membership_of option in winbind.so in my pam.d configuration using samba18:31
badassit works the way it should, unless a user has the "user must change password at next logon" flag in Active Directory18:32
badassI feel like thats a HUGE flaw in the whole AD integration...18:32
dennisHello18:34
exidoshello dennis18:34
denniskann man hir auch normal deutsch reden oder ist die normale sprache englisch ??18:35
exidosnormal englisch, ich kann aber deutsch, wie einige andere hier auch18:35
sahil_hello,my newly reinstalled system is broken after i did sudo dpkg -i *.deb,(debs were copied from var/cache/apt/archives.18:35
exidos@denn18:35
exidosdennis,18:35
dennismann gut mein englisch ist zimlich kacke18:35
sahil_i tried to repair using synaptic but partially sucessfull18:35
BluesKajin other words dennis , this is an english channel18:36
exidosdann lege mal los dennis, ich bin gleich nicht mehr da, wo liegt das Problem?18:36
denniszu zeit habe ich keins aber danke der nach frage exidos18:37
BluesKajexidos, you too :)18:37
exidosSo we have to talk in english? BluesKaj18:37
explodesWhen I log in, it shows the temperature in Celsius, how do I show it in Fahrenheit?18:37
kurtwpI got working I used VPNC instead of the GUI crap18:37
BluesKajexplodes, yes unless you want to join  #ubuntu-de18:38
exidosahh, okay, thx for information18:38
explodesBluesKaj: wrong dude18:38
BluesKajexplodes, I'm not a "dude" , so stop it please18:39
BluesKajtoo ex 's here18:39
BluesKajtoo many that is18:40
exidos:D18:40
* blazemore had tea and crumpets for lunch18:40
blazemorea toast to the empire18:40
BluesKajtea and crumpets is at teatime afaik18:41
HackerIIlol18:41
mikelissI've got an environment variable that I set up using /etc/environment, and now I want to change it without rebooting or logging out. Can that be done?18:42
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palebluedotmikeliss: export var=value18:44
mikelisspalebluedot: That doesns't seem to do anything.18:45
mikelisspalebluedot: The value remains unchanged in other terminals18:46
OerHeksmikeliss, you need to repeat that in all terminals, AFAIK18:46
POVaddctmikeliss: environment variables are process specific. setting it in one process doesn't change it in others18:47
POVaddctmikeliss: and you cannot change the environment of already running processes from "outside"18:47
dennisjemand hir der mir vileicht helfen kann18:48
POVaddctdennis: english please18:48
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denkerdo I need to turn of my computer to make my changes in xorg be applied?18:48
denkerreboot18:48
msbrowndenker: a simple logout/login *shuld* work18:49
msbrownshould18:49
mikelissPOVaddct: So what's the way to change this kind of thing at runtime?18:49
denkermsbrown ok, thx18:49
mikelissI want to have multiple versions of my software on disk, and swap between them via a variable.18:49
mikelissOerHeks: Well, I want this to affect all programs18:50
blazemore!de | dennis18:50
ubottudennis: In den meisten Ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuche bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Einfach "/join #ubuntu-de" eingeben. Danke für Dein Verständnis!18:50
blazemoreI apologise for my interesting crumpet-related anecdote earlier, it was intended for another channel.18:50
raubI swiched the minipci wifi card in my laptop with a intel 5100. lsmod shows iwlwifi up and network manager seels the wireless networks at work, but I do not seem to be able to connect18:50
dennisHello can anyone help me and indeed how can I access it from ubuntu to windows to data to send over?18:51
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blazemoredennis: Ask someone in #ubuntu-de for a better translation ;)18:52
POVaddctmikeliss: you can only change environment variables of already running processes if they have explicit support for that. like interactive shells. there is no generic method for changing environment of any process after it was started. the only way env vars are propagated automatically is inheriting them from parent process when a new process starts.18:52
BluesKajover a network , dennis ?18:52
whoeverdennis: tring to move data from ubuntu to windows? are you in a vm18:52
Deassmtp server; any1 can point me to a guide how you can config it?18:54
whoeverBluesKaj: i guess dennis doesn't want our help ;-)18:54
Pici!smtp | Deas18:54
ubottuDeas: Ubuntu supports the Simple Mail Transfer Protocol (SMTP) and provides mail server software of many kinds. You can install a basic email handling configuration with the "Mail server" task during installation, or with the "tasksel" command. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MailServer and https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/C/email-services.html18:54
BluesKajguess not whoever , he left18:55
deepfunkhow can i join another channel?18:57
wilee-nileedeepfunk, /join #channel18:57
bazhangdeepfunk, /join ##channel18:57
deepfunki'm looking for a channel that can help me with programming c++ with code blocks18:58
HackerII /list18:58
Ari-Yang!dist-upgrade18:58
ubottuA dist-upgrade will install new dependencies for packages already installed and may remove packages if they are no longer needed. This will not bring you to a new release of Ubuntu, see !upgrade if that is your intention.18:58
deepfunkyes, i can look for it in a list but what should i look for? a coding channel?18:58
wilee-nilee!alis18:59
ubottualis is a services bot that can help you find channels. Read "/msg alis help list" for help and ask any questions about it in #freenode. Example usage: /msg alis list #ubuntu* or /msg alis list *http*18:59
BluesKajmaybe #c++18:59
bazhang /msg alis list *term* deepfunk18:59
BluesKajoops18:59
hidhi all19:00
uhelpI am trying to install 12.04.2 on an HP DL585 and the monitor says Ubuntu selected a refresh rate outside its range.  How do I change the refresh rate from the command line?19:01
hidi'd like to have the number of files within a directory. i found the alias: echo $(ls -l | wc -l) but it does not work. Do someone know why?19:02
uhelphid: ls also shows directories ... do you want the number of files and directories together?19:02
hiduhelp: only the number of files19:03
POVaddctfind . -maxdepth 1 -type f | wc -l19:05
uhelphid: use find instead (try man find)19:06
OerHeksls -1 | wc -l19:08
uhelphid: please also read up on hard links -- you might want them even if you think you only want files19:08
PiciOerHeks: that includes directories19:08
solsticehi. how can I boot archlinux with systemd from grub2 installed with ubuntu. right now it gives me a kernel panic. what needs to be done to fix that ?19:08
uhelpOerHeks, Pico: OerHeks and links and pipes and all the other not-a-regular-file objects19:09
uhelpis it a bug that ubuntu 12.04.2 install sets the screen refresh rate to an unusable number and then I can't install?19:10
OerHeksPici that gives me files only,  no directory  and no hardlinks19:10
hidOerHeks: i understand now why it did not work. I typed l instead of 1 :/19:12
OerHeksPici if i counted them right > http://picpaste.com/pics/list-sF348sch.1377198728.png19:12
deepfunkwhere can i study ubuntu?19:12
hidanyway than you all ;=)19:12
deepfunklearn more about the terminal and so on19:12
bazhang!manual | deepfunk19:13
ubottudeepfunk: The Ubuntu Manual will help you become familiar with everyday tasks such as surfing the web, listening to music and scanning documents. With an emphasis on easy to follow instructions, it is suitable for all levels of experience. http://ubuntu-manual.org/19:13
deepfunkthan you!19:13
bazhang!terminal | deepfunk19:13
ubottudeepfunk: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome), K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE), or Menu -> Accessories -> LXTerminal (LXDE). Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal19:13
deepfunk:)19:13
PiciOerHeks: I do not have the same behavior on my setup here.19:13
PiciOerHeks: actually, what its doing is showing you the number of folders.  -1 doesn't include dotfiles.19:14
OerHeksPici uh oh, you might be right19:14
PiciOerHeks: also, whenever you pipe something out of ls, it gives you the -1 'view' automatically. See ls | cat  for example19:15
columbWould my ubuntu shutdown itself in case of overheat?19:21
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Ari-Yangcolumb, when my laptop over heats, it does shutdown.19:22
Ari-Yang(I have ubuntu 12.10 installed on it)19:22
Ari-Yangcolumb, like when it shuts down, laptop scren goes black, ubuntu throws commands at you and says "critical temperature" or something and shuts off.19:22
DarkSim_I have some problems with Ubuntu 12.04, it suddenly has problems connecting to the internet19:23
DarkSim_Other computers in the network can access the internet just fine19:23
columbOk, hope my cpu wouldn't overheat when I try to fix my fan (%19:23
BiafraDarkSim_, reboot to see if it helps19:24
DarkSim_Biafra, tried it, didnt' work19:24
BiafraDarkSim_, update the kernel recently?19:24
DarkSim_Nope19:24
DarkSim_It worked a few days ago19:24
DarkSim_and my parents don't even know how to update19:25
DarkSim_so that's impossible19:25
* genii ponders duplicate static LAN numbers conflicting19:25
DarkSim_the network is set up dynamically19:25
BiafraHmm... what driver does your wireless use on the problem computer, DarkSim_19:25
DarkSim_wireless?19:26
DarkSim_but it it's a wired connection19:26
BiafraOhkay...19:26
BiafraReboot router?19:26
DarkSim_it's literally feet from it19:26
DarkSim_even though other computers can use the router?19:26
BiafraYeah... It can't hurt...19:26
DarkSim_Oh o19:26
DarkSim_I'll go black in a moment19:26
BiafraThis eliminates the router from this issues19:26
geniiDarkSim_: Can also try: sudo dhclient -r eth0 && sudo dhclient eth019:27
geniiTo release/renew dhcp19:27
K4kHi, I'm trying to configure postfix/sasl authentication and I keep getting the following error: warning: SASL authentication failure: unable to canonify user and get auxprops. I'm stumped, if someone could help I would be grateful19:27
raubuhelp: I think there is still an alternate version for 12.04, which should have low end screen/video requirements19:28
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DarkSimHowdy again19:30
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uhelpraub: what is that version called?19:33
DarkSimBiafra, I restarted the Gateway then it works again, thanks for the help :)19:35
BiafraDarkSim excellent19:36
DarkSimSo it was just gateway related?19:37
BiafraMost likely.19:37
DarkSimWell...it is a crappy gateway19:37
BiafraLet me guess, ISP provided?19:37
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DarkSimGot it19:37
BiafraThey usually are.19:38
BluesKajwhich router , DarkSim?19:38
DarkSimSome crappy Thomson19:38
DarkSimall Thomsons suck so sorry if I don't know the exact model :)19:38
BluesKajnever heard of it :)19:38
DarkSimExactly19:38
BiafraYeah... ActionTec is the sucky model for DSL over here, so I feel your pain19:39
BluesKajmine quit last week , the ISP had a new one here in 18 hrs , 2wire ...not too bad for dsl19:40
medohello world ! how i can restore my delete data ?19:41
bazhang!undelete | medo19:42
ubottumedo: Some tools to recover lost data are listed and explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery - Recovering deleted files on !ext3 filesystems can be virtually impossible, although methods that might work is some cases are described at at http://www.xs4all.nl/~carlo17/howto/undelete_ext3.html and http://projects.izzysoft.de/trac/ext3undel19:42
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isashaanyone an xchat expert here?19:56
isashaI would like to enable baloon notifications, but only for one channel19:57
OerHeksisasha, not possible, it is a global setting19:57
isashadarn19:58
isashais it possible to get some sort of notification for just one channel though? not beeping19:58
bazhangisasha, #xchat19:59
DrahKeN_help19:59
isashathx19:59
DrahKeN_n/m wrong window19:59
oanaHello, does anyone know a safe method to install nvidia drivers for ubuntu 13.04? I tried sudo su apt-get update apt-get dist-upgrade apt-get install build-essential apt-get install linux-headers-generic  apt-get nvidia-current nvidia-xconfig20:02
oanaand it didn't go on so well...20:02
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oanamy unity stopped working and had to remove the drivers20:03
bazhangoana, you never use sudo su, for one20:03
oanaso is there a safe way to install them>20:03
oanaI know I was just too lazy to type sudo before every command in that one20:03
bazhangoana, the root account is not enabled20:03
jgornickHey guys, if I'm building a package to install my web application on an ubuntun 12.04 server, what would be the best approach to check for a virtual host setup in apache for my app and either add or update it?20:04
bazhangoana, sudo -i for a root shell20:04
reisiodid you read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia ?20:04
oanayes, additional drivers are not shown there20:05
oanatried the jockey console thing too20:05
reduzhi guys Question. How does one install 32 bit libraries for cross compiling to 32 bits binaries under 64 bits ubuntu? If i try to install the :i386 versions, the 64 bits ones get removed20:07
holsteinreduz: i would dual boot, virtualize or chroot20:07
reduzholstein, compiling works fine, but linking fails due to lack of 32 bits libraries20:08
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ntzrmtthihu777question: is there an ubuntu-gnome channel like #xubuntu?20:12
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nick__d20:13
trismntzrmtthihu777: #ubuntu-gnome20:13
nick__#xfce20:13
Guest97383m20:14
bazhangntzrmtthihu777, use alis to fine one20:14
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ironfoot495Hello I'm in desperate need of someone who can help configure pear on my ubunu 10.04.4 box.20:18
ironfoot495ubuntu box20:18
ntzrmtthihu777!eol | ironfoot49520:18
ubottuironfoot495: End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades20:18
ironfoot495so does hat mean there isd no help???20:19
Nach0z10.04 should never EOL20:19
Nach0zit's too stable20:19
ntzrmtthihu777Nach0z: should and is are two different things, unfortunatly. I loved lucid, its what got me started on ubuntu, but alas!20:20
boohI install a fresh new dedicated ubuntu postfix server.   Which solution is the best for spam filtering and viruses filtering ?  and/or additionnal packages I should install  (smtp auth for offsite users... but not inside ones)20:20
mladouxironfoot495, not necessarily, it just means you shouldn't expect any.20:20
ntzrmtthihu777booh: no idea about spam, but clamav is good.20:20
ironfoot495mladoux: When writing php scripts I run into problem configuring???20:20
ntzrmtthihu777mladoux: holy crap, is that you?20:20
wilee-nileeironfoot495, You don't have access to the main repos as well.20:21
mladouxironfoot495, really, what was the issue you're having?20:21
cff9does anyone here see a 'problem' with cloning my hardrive to SSD?20:21
mladouxntzrmtthihu777, no, it's some other korekame20:21
reisiocff9: with "cloning" I do, yes20:21
wilee-nileecff9, Nope not if done correctly.20:21
reisiocff9: with copying in general, no20:21
ntzrmtthihu777mladoux: XD never ran into you here before, lol. howya doing man XD20:21
cff9thanks reisio - i mean using clonezilla and putting my partition on a new SSD drive20:21
mladouxfine, I'm in and out ntzrmtthihu777 I generally don't hang out here anymore because I get busy.20:21
boohcff9, should work.20:22
reisiocff9: I would use rsync or tar -cf & tar -xp :)20:22
wilee-nileecff9, I did it with 4 OS with no problems20:22
ntzrmtthihu777mladoux: I understand that, lol. I come here a few times every other week or so.20:22
cff9wilee-nilee - ok thanks.....what did u use? Clonezilla? Ext4?20:22
wilee-nileecff9, but as you see there are seceral options20:22
wilee-nileeseveral20:22
ironfoot495mladoux: I've come across a book called Foundations of PEAR and I'm trying to use the Auth and XML conversion scripts and I keep coming up with tremendous errors:(20:22
wilee-nileecff9, clonezilla20:22
boohcff9, maybe you will have to adjust (after cloning) with a live cd and diskpartd20:23
cff9wilee-nilee - thanks - i guess my concern was something i read about 'trimming' which i am still researching20:23
mladouxironfoot495, what are the errors? put them here --> paste.ubuntu.com20:23
booh(adjusting the size of your partition I mean)20:23
mladouxironfoot495, depending on the errors, you might have better luck in #php20:23
ironfoot495xcrossing and rewriting trees o get php to see !!!20:23
wilee-nileecff9, With clonezilla the partiions adding the clone to have to of equal size or bigger than the original is all, and the same ext#20:24
wilee-nileebe*20:24
mladouxironfoot495, can you paste the actual errors into a pastbin for me?20:24
booh With clonezilla the partiions adding the clone to have to of equal size or bigger than the original is all, and the same ext# <--- You can resize lower the source partition before cloning... with live cd and diskpartd20:25
wilee-nileecff9, If the partition numbers differ you can change them to match in the clone.20:25
cff9wilee - nilee - i guess i just have to try and see! I wonder what the speed difference is....boot time will be faster but general usage dont know - might not be too much....20:25
cff9right - need to make sure same /partition/20:25
boohgrrrrrr not diskpartd but gpartd.20:25
wilee-nileecff9, Big difference here in boot and speed big is an opinion though.20:26
KalelHow to make a samsung phone be recognized by windows in VirtualBox from ubuntu 13.0420:26
Kalel?20:26
mladouxironfoot495, also, you might want to try upgrading your ubuntu... it may be that the issues you are having can be fixed with a newer version. Or it's possible, and highly likely, that you've merely misconfigured something, either through your own error, or through an error in your resource material.20:26
wilee-nileeKalel, #vbox20:26
cff9wilee-nilee - out of interest what size u have for SSD? they seem very expensive20:27
wilee-nileeKalel, You add the usb in vbox20:27
wilee-nileecff9, 256 gigs20:27
cff9im thinkikng 128gig will do me since i dont store much media on this machine20:27
litropyIs there a PCI event log?20:27
cff9ok thanks20:27
Kalelyes, a empty filter. The phone wasn't recognized in 'pc-studio' mode20:28
Kalelin ubuntu20:28
reduzok, properly cross compiling to 32 bits in 64 bits ubuntu is impossible20:28
wilee-nileecff9, Be sure to shop and get one up to industry standards20:28
ironfoot495mladoux: `ok holdon! Are you sure that this paste is right???20:28
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cff9wilee-nilee - right - 100% want to make sure get best one i can20:29
ntzrmtthihu777Kalel: I tried this with another usb device (printer) needed to get a vbox expansion pack (not to be confused with guest addtions), iirc it was not available in the free version of vbox.20:29
mladouxironfoot495, I won't be sure till I see it.20:29
boohcff9: normaly, ssd is for OS and you add a second conventional drive for storing datas...20:29
wilee-nileentzrmtthihu777, The vbox site has it and it is a free version20:30
ironfoot495paste.ubuntu.paste???20:30
cff9wilee-nilee, im referring to my laptop here....its actually 32 bit, kinda wish it was 6420:30
KalelI have the extra pack installed.20:30
boohfor laptop ssh is very nice... extend battery too :)20:30
wilee-nileecff9, does not really matter 32 or 64, the ssd does not care20:31
boohfor laptop SSD is very nice... extend battery too :)20:31
ntzrmtthihu777cff9: yep. I'd like a ssd for this little machine, lol. its very nice, but a ssd would only make it nicer. Especially since it only has 160gb anyways :P20:31
cff9wilee-nilee, booh, yeah i didnt think about batt life, good point20:31
mladouxoh, the ubuntu pastebin appears to be down...20:31
mladouxironfoot495, ubuntu's pastebin appears to be down, use this one --> http://pastebin.mozilla.org/20:32
litropyI'm pretty sure I have an intermittent short in my internals, because when I press a certain spot on my laptop, both my wifi card and my internal SD card reader reset. They're both PCI, which is why I'm wondering if there is a PCI event log.20:32
Kalelntzrmtthihu777: Shoud I install another pack to conect my smartphone?20:32
ntzrmtthihu777Kalel: dunno about the particulars for smartphones+vbox, sorry.20:33
ironfoot495mladoux: ok here's the deal I've tried other distro's but I have always had good luck working with ubuntu 10.04.4 but I really need positive direction dealiong with the PEAR extensions expecialy http and Auth.20:33
ntzrmtthihu777in any case I've just installed a new de, logout time!20:33
ironfoot495I guess I need plenty of patients:).20:34
mladouxironfoot495, I'm not saying to change distro, I'm just saying you might want to seriously consider upgrading as 10.04 no longer gets updates, and will get more insecure over time as new exploits are found. If you want stability, I'd recommend an LTS release like 12.04.20:35
wilee-nileeironfoot495, I would install a supported version the troubles in getting help, no acess to the main repos and the security risks are not worth it.20:35
mladoux10.04 is still supported, I think, but not for much longer.20:36
wilee-nileejust not a smart move20:36
wilee-nileemladoux, only the server20:36
k1lmladoux: it is not supported for desktop anymore20:36
mladouxk1l, yeah, I wasn't sure, but he's talking php, so I was thinking he's running the server.20:36
mladouxironfoot495, anyway, I don't know if I can fix your issue or not, not without a copy of the errors you recieved.20:37
ironfoot495mladoux: these are just a few from hundreds I've been wiading through!!!.20:37
ironfoot495mladoux: wait one sending!!!.20:38
mladouxthank you ironfoot49520:38
ironfoot495wilee-nilee: I comply~~~~!!.20:40
ironfoot495mladoux: Well???.20:40
mladouxwhere's the link?20:40
mladouxyou made the paste, I'm assuming, but you never linked it to me, so I have no idea.20:40
meliciao20:41
Dictatorhello friends20:41
meli!list20:41
ubottumeli: No warez here! This is not a file sharing channel (or network); read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot ». If you're looking for a channel, see « /msg ubottu !alis ».20:41
mladouxironfoot495, it's not like I can see your paste without the url to click on.20:41
ironfoot495ofcourse I don't think you can at one setting figure it out but I really appreciate the fast response. Than\k you.20:41
ironfoot495mladoux:  is there a more effecient way???.20:42
Dictatorwhat is a lightweight simple app to set up a daily schedule20:42
ironfoot495tyalkj to me?.20:42
mladouxyou make a paste at a pastebin, copy the url, and then paste the url here.20:42
mladouxironfoot495, ^^20:42
Pici!paste20:42
ubottuFor posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.20:42
ironfoot495ok20:42
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wilee-nileeironfoot495, Not sure what I comply means, but no respectable helper here will help you. ;)20:44
wilee-nileeother than in upgrading20:44
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wilee-nileeif you had a legit reason maybe20:44
mladouxwilee-nilee, depending on what it is, I might, you know, for fun, but I will of course seriously recommend he upgrade.20:45
wilee-nileemladoux, You should not be period.20:45
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wilee-nileethats like fixing a windows system that has had badware, when it should be reinstalled20:46
mladouxwilee-nilee, well, he is asking for help with a server issue, ( being a php/pear thing ) and 10.04. is still supported for that, so yeah.20:46
wilee-nileeIt's called enabling20:46
mladouxmeh... I still use DOS for things. lol20:46
wilee-nileeanyway none of my bisnezz20:46
XentinelI think I screwed up my network-manager service, it doesn't start with Ubuntu anymore, and I'm not sure what kind of runlevel it's supposed to have, any help?20:47
mladouxI'm not gonna help him with non-server issues, or anything not supported.20:47
mladouxanyway, he still hasn't shared the errors with me, so it's not going anywhere anyhow.20:48
mladouxXentinel, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkManager20:49
ironfoot495mladoux:  I've got a telephone call b back!!!20:49
Dictatorwhat is a lightweight simple app to set up a daily schedule20:50
wilee-nileeXentinel, The channel "not me" needs the details leading up to this.20:51
wilee-nilee!cron | Dictator20:52
ubottuDictator: cron is a way to schedule execution of software/scripts. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CronHowto20:52
resc_user_2889hello?20:52
resc_user_2889anyone had any grub problems?20:52
wilee-nileeresc_user_2889, address the issues for help in the channel.20:53
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PapaSierrai have a need to add a user with with no password and only if that user doesn't exist21:00
PapaSierraalso, since it's happening remotely i cannot answer all the "what is your name", etc. and correct Y/n? so i need to bypass that stuff21:01
wilee-nileePapaSierra, Have them use the guest account, you can have a password and autologin.21:02
wilee-nileeor*21:02
wilee-nileePapaSierra, not sure what you stae makes any sense21:03
wilee-nileestate21:03
PapaSierrayeah, so i'm writing a script that connects over ssh and creates a user account on a remote server. but only if it doesn't already exist. and also, i don't want password login. it must just be a locked account21:04
wilee-nileelittle closer to making sense, lol, not sure here.21:05
Mike9863I am trying to ssh tunnel with an Ubuntu server I have. I have connected to the server with ssh -C -D 8080 name@ip and set my browser to use a Socks V5 proxy at 127.0.0.1:8080, however for some reason my connection seems to freeze when I try doing something. The terminal session freezes and pages do not load when I use the proxy. Once I stop using the proxy my terminal session unfreezes. Any ideas?21:06
PapaSierrawilee-nilee: something like:  id -u somename &>/dev/null || useradd somename21:08
eph3meralhmm, how can I change my resolution? I believe I may have installed and activated compiz - I just installed kubuntu-desktop as well as regular ubuntu-desktop from an xubuntu install because of hard crashes in xfce21:10
eph3meralthe only resolutions I see in the display control panel in unity are 800x600 and 1024x768 but a few minutes ago I was running 1920x108021:10
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snarky_handlehi. anyone good with setting up nfs? I have the server side working, but am having difficulties with making an fstab entry21:16
zykotick9snarky_handle: what is your fstab line?21:16
PapaSierrafwiw: id -u bob &>/dev/null || useradd --create-home --home /home/bob --shell /bin/bash -U bob21:17
basanthey everyone what happens if a cron job fails21:17
basantcan I somehow set it to try again ?21:17
snarky_handle192.168.5.2:/media/xx/public/ home/*/public nfs rw,hard,intr    0 021:17
zykotick9snarky_handle: your missing / on /home21:18
snarky_handleoh yeah i just messed up the paste here21:18
snarky_handleit's in fstab21:18
zykotick9snarky_handle: i also just use "defaults" for the option, where you have rw,hard,intr21:18
snarky_handlei have tried defaults too but it didn't work before. I can try it again though21:19
star_prone_does anyone know if teamviewer for linux uses wine?21:19
snarky_handlemm do I have to reboot every time for the changes to take place?21:20
zykotick9snarky_handle: you can use "mount -a" to refresh, and see if there are error(s)21:20
star_prone_I have installed teamviewer and I see that ps -ef will find a proccess called: c:\TeamViewer\TeamViewer.exe21:20
snarky_handlezykotick9: doesn't give errors21:21
zykotick9snarky_handle: so, did it mount?21:21
snarky_handlecool it mounts, but with no permissions for me21:21
wilee-nileestar_prone_, https://www.teamviewer.com/en/download/linux.aspx21:22
zykotick9snarky_handle: nfs uses "real" permission, so check what the permission on the server are.  if your UID don't match between the two systems, there are further complications.21:22
snarky_handlezykotick9:  /media/xx/public/ 192.168.5.0/24(rw,no_root_squash,async,insecure,anonuid=1000,anongid=1000) is my /etc/exports21:24
ironfoot495mladoux: ok now what was the instructions you had for me?21:24
zykotick9snarky_handle: ummm, that's beyond me.  i just use the filesystem permissions.  best of luck - i don't have any further suggestions.21:24
snarky_handlezykotick9:  uid=1000(*) gid=1000(*) Gruppen=1000(*),4(adm),24(cdrom),27(sudo),30(dip),46(plugdev),104(fuse),109(lpadmin),124(sambashare),127(davfs2),1001(jupiter) is my id on client side21:24
snarky_handleoh ok21:24
snarky_handlethanks for the mount -a21:25
zykotick9:)21:25
snarky_handlezykotick9: so if the server had my username associated with the same UID as on my client, it could "just work"?21:28
zykotick9snarky_handle: does for me.21:28
snarky_handlehuh21:28
zykotick9snarky_handle: be aware, changing UID can cause issues...  (i always make sure my UID is the same on all my boxes)21:29
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snarky_handlezykotick9:  yeah no I won't on the client21:29
dgarstangneed a little help with debian/install file...21:34
grydgarstang: hi.21:35
grydgarstang: just ask.21:35
grydgarstang: assuming you're asking about something with Ubuntu — otherwise there is a #debian channel here.21:35
dgarstanggry: kk. I've got a mkdir /usr/local/packer in the install file... fakeroot doesn't like it...21:35
dgarstanggry: "cp: cannot stat `debian/tmp/mkdir': No such file or directory"21:36
dgarstanggry: can't find docs on exactly what's allowed in debian/install file21:37
dgarstangor, more generally, how do I build packages and install to a location of my choosing21:38
TheGodlyProxyhello21:39
TheGodlyProxyeveryone21:39
samruda i tried installing my customized ubuntu(windows xp and ubuntu pre installed  ), but it did not work. Then i tried to load my windows its now throwing an error saying that "no such device , no such partition, you need to load the kernel first". can anyone help me out in this?21:39
basantwhat is a good client autosync thing with lots of space for ubuntu. something like dropbox / google drive client on windows ( apart from ubuntu one )21:40
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k1ldgarstang: there is #ubuntu-packaging21:40
TheGodlyProxydid u fromat ur drive ther right way21:40
dgarstangk1l: k21:40
xanguabasant: ubuntu one is also aviable for windows, and so are dropbox and google drive on ubuntu21:41
eph3meralI'm having resolution problems on anything other than kernel patch 2721:41
eph3meral19 and 29 give me low resolution, anyone know what might be going on with this?21:41
basantxangua, I want a client for google drive. is it available on uubntu  ?21:42
basantalso it is has less space21:42
xanguabasant: there is an unnoficial google drive client http://www.webupd8.org/2013/07/google-drive-client-insync-for-linux.html21:43
eph3meralwhere do I go to install nvidia drivers in kubuntu? google doesn't seem to know :/21:44
HackerIIwhy dont you use nvidia-current21:44
basantxangua, also ( looking for advice) . I need a good syncing client which gives me the best possible space ( 10 gigs ?  ) for free . Any recommends ?21:44
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k1leph3meral: install the packages from the ubuntu repos.21:45
k1leph3meral: dont load anything from websites21:45
HackerII^21:45
adamsilverwas anybody able to use apple cinema display (no thunderbolt) on a pc laptop running ubuntu?21:47
pepper_chicohttp://askubuntu.com/questions/335489/is-there-a-way-to-define-a-hotkey-to-solely-unhide-the-launcher21:47
Mike9863I am trying to ssh tunnel with an Ubuntu server I have. I have connected to the server with ssh -C -D 8080 name@ip and set my browser to use a Socks V5 proxy at 127.0.0.1:8080, however for some reason my connection seems to freeze when I try doing something. The terminal session freezes and pages do not load when I use the proxy. Once I stop using the proxy my terminal session unfreezes. Any ideas?21:48
pepper_chicoI guess that ^ is too hardcoded to be customized...21:48
TimeStampjoing /#area3121:53
TimeStampjoin /#area3121:53
bobbyd_pepper_chico, holding the windows key will show it21:58
basanthow do I send a ubuntu one invite to someone21:58
pepper_chicobobbyd_, I think you haven't read the limitations…, holding is not an option21:58
pepper_chicobobbyd_, but anyway, are you with 13.04?21:59
pepper_chicoI'd just like to know whether holding Super continues to show the shortcut list, as in 1222:00
pepper_chicobut just to know, I know it won't work at my setup22:00
pepper_chicoI looking for a click shortcut22:00
OerHeksbasant,  just send the referrals link which can be found in the Ubuntu One dashboard22:02
basantOerHeks, I am trying to locate where the said dashboard is22:03
basantOerHeks, also can I use ubuntu one from lubuntu22:03
OerHekshttps://one.ubuntu.com/dashboard/22:04
tharkunMike9863: " my connection seems to freeze when I try doing something." Isn't that a bit ambigous. Could you state more facts, like what proxy are you using ...22:04
tharkun<wag> Also setting a vpn might be better for your purposes </wag>22:04
Mike9863tharkun: I am using the ssh tunnel as a proxy. When I try to go to a website in Chromium when I'm using the tunnel as a proxy, the page doesn't load and the shell freezes22:05
linuxnewb12.04 libdvdread4 and libdvdcss2 installed, region set correctly but STILL my DVDs won't play... VLC sees the disc and starts to play but it's the ageold green screen and choppy sound22:05
linuxnewbany ideas?22:06
OerHeksbasant lubuntu, never tried U1 on it, honestly22:07
tharkunMike9863: a proxy is a different beast than a simple ssh tunnel. If you need a hammer get yourself one, if you need a proxy get yourself a proxy.22:07
tharkunMike9863: Anyway set up your proxy of choice on the remote server establish an ssh tunnel to connect to the proxy and bingo you are done.22:07
Mike9863tharkun: tharkun I have done this many times. I am connecting to the server with -D so I can use the tunnel as a proxy.22:07
tharkunthe ssh tunnel alone will not o the trick22:08
Ari-Yanglinuxnewb, try out another player?22:08
Ari-Yanglike totem, just to see if it plays fine22:08
Ari-Yangand if it does try out mplayer or mplayer 2, linuxnewb22:08
tharkunMike9863: ssh -vvv will spit out a lot of info if you want to use the SOCKS proxy of ssh yet I do prefer privoxy or other kind of specialized tool22:09
snarky_handlelinuxnewb: try another DVD?22:10
Mike9863tharkun: An extra tool isn't necessary for what I want to do. I just want to use the server as a proxy and a simple ssh tunnel is the easiest way to do it. I've been doing it for years, however for some reason the shell is now freezing when I do it. I'm trying to find out why.22:10
linuxnewbcheers, other players behave similarly as do other discs22:10
tharkunMike9863: -vvv on ssh should give you a hint22:11
Mike9863tharkun: Alright I'll try that22:11
tharkunAlso check for selinux on either end. It is sometimes a pain to debug22:11
snarky_handlelinuxnewb: did you try this? http://superuser.com/questions/227528/how-to-fix-choppy-video-with-vlc-player22:14
AleXaI put some bash scripts under Session and Startup, Application Autostart. Once the PC's started, how can I kill the running script?22:14
linuxnewbyep :(22:14
linuxnewbI've been searching terms for the last three days22:15
linuxnewbfor hours22:15
AleXaAnyone ready to help?22:16
snarky_handlelinuxnewb: such is the life of a n00b ;)22:16
* linuxnewb installs debian22:16
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lonewulf85Hey everyone how do I install a partition from the terminal?22:17
linuxnewbfdisk22:18
linuxnewblonewulf85: fdisk22:18
snarky_handlelinuxnewb: do you get anything on the command line? and with --debug or --verbose?22:18
lonewulf85linuxnewb, fdisk and then?22:18
snarky_handlelonewulf85: sudo fdisk22:18
Guest42961guys please help.. after a lot of work I got my new 13.04 installation that way I like it (compiz, wobbly windows, rotating cube.. all software etc) and it ran fine for a month then yesterday after a reboot I'm screwed... display is at 640x480 windows have no borders or title bars.. unity is missing... etc.. how can i fix this? I am booted into liveCD rt now.. please help!22:18
phdjsepI have a question regarding a screenshot I've take while running xvfb and firefox. I have a selenium test that hangs. I've taken a screenshot with xwd, converted it, and it seems that there is an alert. The alert however has all its text blacked out. Anyone know how to resolve this?22:18
linuxnewblonewulf85: sorry, I misspoke, I meant 'man fdisk'22:19
AleXaGuest42961, what do you see on your screen?22:19
Guest42961AleXa, just my desktop with icons and my chosen background22:20
Guest42961AleXa, resolution is very low.. normally i have 2560x160022:20
Guest42961AleXa, it seems after a update.. nvidia driver was uninstalled or something22:20
neonlightexit22:20
linuxnewbGuest, I was just about to say22:21
Guest42961linuxnewb, how do i reinstall?22:21
linuxnewbsudo apt-get purge nameofpackage-that-you-updated-with22:21
Guest42961linuxnewb, i cant get to another tty (by ctrl+alt 1)22:21
Guest42961linuxnewb, i did the Ubuntu update22:21
linuxnewbguest: tail -n25 /var/log/apt/history.log22:22
Guest42961linuxnewb, i am booted into liveCD.. so i should mount the drive and do it under there.. rt?22:23
AleXaGuest42961, I do not update every time there is new update, because of the instability of graphic drivers. But when I do, I first write down my graphic driver version and kernel version, so I could install the same version if anything goes wrong.22:23
XMLnewbiso i just bought a new VPS, installed phpmyadmin, and right on top of my user menu I have this, http://i.imgur.com/F5hGKEA.jpg     three accounts without passwords and one as a wild card, why are they here? can I remove them?22:23
linuxnewbyer... although display's to shit, you still have option to run terminal, right?22:24
linuxnewbboot to hda22:24
linuxnewbrun command given22:24
linuxnewbwork out name of package from that22:24
linuxnewbpurge it22:24
linuxnewbreboot22:24
linuxnewbmaybe it works :D22:24
bobbobhi, can i change over/underscan on the open source radeon driver ubuntu 13.04?22:25
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Guest42961linuxnewb, http://fpaste.org/34154/72103031/22:25
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Guest42961AleXa, i know the driver and version.. but how do i install it22:25
Guest42961AleXa, i cant get to a terminal outside of X environment.. cant get to grub22:26
phdjsepAnyone have an idea?22:26
linuxnewbso it happened on the 20th?22:26
Guest42961linuxnewb, yeah.. exactly22:26
Guest42961linuxnewb, new kernel installed i see22:26
Guest42961linuxnewb, and the nvidia driver has to be built to that kernel22:27
AleXaGuest42961, try to reach the GRUB holding shift or left ctrl on PC restart. Works for me.22:27
Guest42961linuxnewb, should i purge that?22:27
linuxnewbnein22:28
Guest42961AleXa, holding shift doesnt help.. will try with left ctrl22:28
Guest42961nein?22:28
linuxnewbdon't purge22:28
linuxnewbAleXa is on to something22:28
linuxnewbboot to old kernel22:28
AleXaexactly22:28
Guest42961linuxnewb, if only i can get to grub22:28
AleXaor to get simply root controll22:28
bobbobI cant find any over/underscan settings for the default radeon driver//22:29
Guest42961is there a way to default to grub22:29
linuxnewbsudo gedit /etc/default/grub22:29
AleXaGuest42961, why don't you try pressing ctrl + alt +F1 after loading everything?22:29
linuxnewbo, sorry, you mean to SEE GRUB at boot?22:29
Guest42961AleXa, nothing happens with that.. it doesnt open a tty22:29
Guest42961linuxnewb, yeah22:29
linuxnewbfrom askubuntu: For permanent change you'll need to edit your /etc/default/grub file -- place a "#" symbol at the start of line GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT=0.22:30
snarky_handleGuest42961: press shift at boot22:30
linuxnewbbut while booting you could hold shift22:30
Guest42961linuxnewb, snarky_handle shift is not working.. i am trying the other solution changed /etc/default/grub.. rebooting with fingers crossed... thanks guys if i dont see you again22:32
linuxnewb42961 you're on a second device?22:32
Guest42961nope same machine booted with livecd22:32
KI7MTHello all, can someone point me to an "Ubuntu: XDM Base specification / blueprint regarding the use of  ~/.local and ~/.config , what the diffs are and how to use them when writing scripts?22:32
linuxnewbso how are you holding shift at boot and I'm still seeing you in here? :P22:33
Guest42961lol.. no i tried all of that before coming on chat22:33
linuxnewboooo22:33
linuxnewbgotchya22:33
Guest42961going now22:33
linuxnewbgood luck22:33
AleXagood luck22:34
AleXahe's gone22:34
basanthow do I find ubuntu system tools and other menus in 12.0422:37
basant?22:37
bobbobThis is crazy, how is a new ubuntu user meant to adjust over/underscan on the default radeon driver!? Had to use xrandr --output DVI-0 --set underscan on --set "underscan hborder" 45 --set "underscan vborder" 45 !!!22:38
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bobbobtry telling that to granny over the phone ;)22:41
geekstayHi everyone. I've a problem with "FN" on my keyboard. When I want to control volum with FN, it controls volume of my hdmi output and not my speaker/integrated output. I'm using Xubuntu. (Unity installed with XFCE)22:42
KI7MTbasant, hit / tap the "super key / aka windows key" once and type in what your looking for, or you can use the command line. What app / program you need?22:42
magdurguys how can i use and what can i use lamp?22:43
AleXageekstay, which version of Xubuntu?22:43
magdurlamp: linux apache msql php22:44
reisiomagdur: hrmm?22:44
linuxnewbdid 42961 come back? :-P22:44
magdur<reisio>  ?22:44
mdevusing ubuntu 12 sudo apt-get install noip2 doesn't work22:44
mdevneither does sudo apt-get install noip or sudo apt-get install no-ip22:45
mdevwhat gives?22:45
reisiomagdur: what are you asking?22:45
KI7MTapt-carch search pull NULL on all those apps, sure the name is right?22:46
KI7MTapt-cache .. .. .22:46
magdur<reisio>   firstly, i try installing wamp on windows8 but i had some problem later i installed lamp (linux apache msql php) and now i succesfully instal it but i dont know it is using what for ?22:47
AleXalinuxnewb, not as far as I see22:47
KI7MTmdev, here is a post about it: bit old though: http://askubuntu.com/questions/184704/the-noip2-no-ip-com-package-was-deleted-from-the-repository-now-what22:48
linuxnewbthen we can assume it worked :-P22:49
reisiomagdur: I don't know what you mean... are you trying to find something to use your web server for?22:50
mathias__hello everyone! i have a problem with my thinkpad x200. unity completely freezes after startup (approx. 2-10mins after boot). i can only use the mouse and there is no way to restart the xorg server. last changes on system were: upgrade to latest kernel and update on intel gfx driver via intel gfx installer. what can i do now in order to fix this issue? my system is completly useless. even the 2d gnome fallback mode does not help... latest 22:50
reisiomagdur: like what things you can do with it?22:50
magdur<reisio>  ?actually me to i dont know what do i want do22:50
geekstayHi everyone. I've a problem with "FN" on my keyboard. When I want to control volum with FN, it controls volume of my hdmi output and not my speaker/integrated output. I'm using Xubuntu. (Unity installed with XFCE)22:51
linuxnewblol mathias we just had somethinf similar. hold down shift at boot to get grub and load old kernel22:51
reisiomagdur: ...what?22:51
reisiogeekstay: you use you hdmi output audio at all?22:52
magdur<reisio>  actually me to i dont know that what i want do22:52
reisiomagdur: so... are you looking for something interesting to do with a web server?22:52
linuxnewbmagdur - read a magazine and get some inspiration22:52
mathias__ok. instead of loading .29 i will load .27 now... but i doubt it will work ... -_-'22:53
reisiogeekstay: sounds like you eithe want to reconfigure the X volume up shortcut in some fashion, or just remap it to a script that controls pulseaudio's master volume22:53
linuxnewbof you doubt the advice, why ask? ;-)22:53
geekstayreisio : No. When I go on control volume in "Output Device" and want to change volume, I see the control volume of HDMI output, not internal.22:53
magdur<linuxnewb> propably you are right22:53
magdur<linuxnewb> have you any suggestion ?22:54
geekstayI prefer to understand where I can change it.22:54
mathias__no! thanks for the advice! i rly appreciate it!22:54
linuxnewbyer, media. stream it.22:54
mathias__but i try to solve the problem for hours.. everytime i think it works it crashes once again. i am quite pessimistic now. sorry22:54
linuxnewbnp - been there22:55
linuxnewbmathias: tweet me the results @linuxnewb22:56
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ntzrmtthihu777heyo, issue with compiz+gnome-session-fallback; the indicator-applet-complete consistently crashes when using compiz instead of metacity23:00
mathias__linuxnewb: my system is frozen once again.. kernel fallback did not work23:00
pepper_chicohttp://askubuntu.com/questions/335489/is-there-a-way-to-define-a-hotkey-to-solely-unhide-the-launcher23:03
pepper_chicoI guess that ^ is too hardcoded to be customized...23:03
AleXawhat does hardcoded mean anyway? closed source or similar?23:04
pepper_chicoAleXa, no configuration to customize it23:05
adamsilverWhat are the benefits of using Ubuntu on web servers over Debian?23:06
meaustinAleXa: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hard_coding23:06
hdd3hello can somebody help me mounting an external disc, it wont show up anymore suddenly ...????23:10
aki_hi23:10
linuxnewbdoes it appear when you do fdisk -l23:10
gorgonzo1ahello all! i just got a new lenovo machine (excited :D ) and need some advise on partitioning schemes... firts of all, this machine has insane ammounts of ram. do i still need to swap?23:11
gorgonzo1asecond, if i do, can i configure a swap file instead of a swap partition?23:11
geekstaySomeone know how to access to xfce4-volumed configuration files ?23:11
Biafragorgonzola, swapfile is easy to do23:12
Biafradd if=/dev/zero of=/path/to/swapfile23:12
gorgonzo1aBiafra so i could just put a swapfile somewhere in the data partition and forget about it? can it be dynamically alocated too?23:12
Biafranot sure23:13
Biafraprobably not23:13
gorgonzo1ammm23:13
gorgonzo1aso, the thing is, i've always done the "double ram" rule for swap23:13
gorgonzo1abut this machine has 32 gb of ram...23:13
linuxnewb32GB of RAM!?23:13
gorgonzo1aso first of al, i don't want to use 64gb of space for swap, and second, i honestly doubt i will ever swap23:14
linuxnewbwow. what dreams are made of23:14
gorgonzo1ayeah. 32. i feel obscene.23:14
BiafraI have 16 on my box23:14
linuxnewbdid you just sign up for lightworks? ;-)23:14
gorgonzo1amain research machine:)23:14
Biafraso yeah...23:14
hdd3how does my ext. hdd not show up anymore.? can anybody help`23:14
jribgorgonzo1a: if you want to be able to hibernate, use at least = RAM, otherwise, use your judgement23:14
gorgonzo1ajrib that's hat i was thinking... can i use a swapfile exclusively for hibernation?23:15
Deas fopen(data.txt): failed to open stream: Permission denied23:15
Deaswhy23:15
DeasWHY23:15
Deas;__;23:15
hdd3linuxnewb, nope doesnt show up in fdisk -l23:15
FloodBot1Deas: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.23:15
gorgonzo1ajrib, like, space that is note dedicated, only fdor emergency purposes?23:15
jribgorgonzo1a: at one point that wasn't possible.  But it may be now.23:15
linuxnewbhdd3: your best bet is to look on ddiskutility. it' s grsphical and straight forward23:15
jribgorgonzo1a: uh, what do you mean?23:15
Biafragorgonzola: once you get over 4GB ram, it should be mem size = swap size23:16
Biafrayeah23:16
gorgonzo1aok. Biafra, jrib, let me explain.23:16
hdd3linuxnewb, i know, but it doesnt show there either23:16
gorgonzo1ai generally don't think swap should be needed in this machine. And I don't want to use 32 gb of hard drive for a fixed swap partition23:16
Deashttp://paste.ubuntu.com/6015813/23:16
gorgonzo1a(unless strictly necessary)23:16
jribgorgonzo1a: do you want to hibernate?23:16
gorgonzo1athat's what i'm trying to decide...23:17
jribgorgonzo1a: ok, well that's just a personal choice23:17
linuxnewbdisk ticks?23:17
gorgonzo1amaybe? only in case of an emergency, but it's not critical.23:17
Biafragorgonzola: if you want hibernation support, then yes. Otherwise, it's really up to your whim23:17
jribgorgonzo1a: then create a 32GB swap23:17
Biafragorgonzola: I advise making it 4023:17
Biafragorgonzola: overhead purposes23:18
zykotick9gorgonzo1a: i'd recommend a 33GB swap myself, RAM+alittlebit23:18
gorgonzo1ajrib Biafra: thanks for your help. just one more thing. suppose i go the no hibernation route... do i still need swap?23:18
hdd3linuxnewb, ticks? it makes sounds and has the normal red light when switching on and off...23:18
gorgonzo1adoes the kernel rely on it at all?23:18
Biafragorgonzola: not really, but it never hurts23:18
zykotick9!swap | gorgonzo1a23:18
ubottugorgonzo1a: swap is used to move unused programs and data out of main memory to make your system faster. It can also be used as extra memory if you don't have enough. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq for more info23:18
AleXalinuxnewb, any news from Guest_+_number?23:18
gorgonzo1azykotick9 thanks for info.23:19
jribgorgonzo1a: you should have some swap, imo.  The kernel should try to optimize your memory usage anyway and you can tune the behavior with swappiness. Swapping is better than facing OOM23:19
gorgonzo1ajrib ok. i see. now, exclusoively for memory management purposes, is it possible to swap to a dynamically alocated file in another parittion?23:20
gorgonzo1ajrib or is that asking for pain?23:20
jribgorgonzo1a: I don't know about "dynamically"23:20
gorgonzo1aoh, you know, like virtualbox disk images :)23:20
gorgonzo1ajrib they grow as needed.23:20
jribgorgonzo1a: I understand what you mean; I don't know if it's do-able23:20
hdd3is there an option to unmount / mount disk that are not shown in disk utility/ fdisk??? it creaps me out23:21
Biafragorgonzola: I believe if you go swapfile, it's a fixed image23:21
gorgonzo1ajrib Biafra: sounds like it's just saner to put aside 40gb for swap23:22
gorgonzo1asounds crazy though :S23:22
hdd3anyone ?23:23
gorgonzo1ahdd3 if it doesn't show in fdisk, it's bad news.23:23
jribgorgonzo1a: I wouldn't make it more than 32GB23:23
Biafrahdd3 what kind of external drive is it you're drying to use?23:23
gorgonzo1ahdd3 make sure you are actually looking at the correct device, and not a specific partition ie, /dev/sda instead of /dev/sda3 etc.23:23
Biafrae.g., USB, eSATA, ieee1394, etc.23:23
hdd3its an ext3 encrypetd one, i just used diskutility to make an ntfs partition on another hdd!!23:24
hdd3it should show as sdc or sdd but doesnt23:24
gorgonzo1aoh. encrypted? sorry. no idea there :S23:24
gorgonzo1aok guys, thanks a lot for the advice. one more thing: what is the recommended file size for root these days? is 20,30gb still enough?23:25
gorgonzo1ai mean / not /root23:25
hdd3i never had problems till now, there shouldnt be any differnce for mounting, maybe theres just a problem with mount points etc, reboot dintt help23:25
Biafragorgonzola, depends on what you're partitoning for23:26
gorgonzo1ahdd3 don't know dude. i had a traumatic experience with encrypted volumes once and never looked again into it. sorry i can help more, maybe someone else here can23:26
gorgonzo1aBiafra, this box has a 128 ssd and a 500 gb hd. i want / on the ssd obviously, but then i want /var on the hd23:27
hdd3thanks, gotgonzola, i feel like i ate the wrong cheese :(23:27
gorgonzo1aBiafra, sorry i should hav been more specific. it comes down to: how big is / minus /var for partitioning purposes?23:27
Biafragorgonzo1a, in that case, you can dedicate the entirety of your SSD (minus space for the swap and any separate /boot partition) to the root partition23:28
Biafraif you're dedicating the HDD to /var23:29
Biafradepending on how much / is accessed compared to /var23:29
gorgonzo1aBiafra i'd love to, but there's a windows partitition and a bunch of system stuff that i don't want to mess too much about...23:29
gorgonzo1aBiafra so i guess it's about how much space should i try to recover from those in order to throw / on it23:30
BiafraHow much space does your Windows Partition have?23:30
gorgonzo1aBiafra i'm putting /var in the hdd in order to reduce strain on the ssd23:30
gorgonzo1aright now it has 90gb allocated, 30gb used23:31
wilee-nileeDeas, Where is the data?23:31
gorgonzo1aBiafra nevermind, i just realized this is a very simple issue after all...23:32
Biafragorgonzo1a, you should be able to lop off up to 50GB to Linux without no ill effectts in Windows23:32
gorgonzo1aBiafra yeah, it just dawned on me23:32
gorgonzo1aok. I'll go do that. thanks a bunch for the help.23:32
gorgonzo1aBiafra, jrib, thanks, bye.23:32
Biafrabai23:32
Deaswilee-nilee: same dir as the php file23:33
wilee-nileeDeas, Not sure then23:33
douglwould like to set up my raspbian Pi to be a sound server for my 13.04... any suggestions?23:33
jribdougl: raspbian isn't ubuntu is it?23:35
Chan_Song_Jookonichiwa23:36
SilverSlimerIs it possible to get HDMI sound out of nouveau drivers?23:38
reisioSilverSlimer: nouveau is a graphics driver23:38
SilverSlimerreisio: i know that23:39
SilverSlimeri guess i should rephrase that23:39
SilverSlimeris it possible for hdmi sound to work without the nvidia drivers being installed?23:39
reisioI don't think the nvidia drivers have anything to do with audio23:40
reisioso yes23:40
xiacloYes, it relies on ALSA/PulseAudio being able to see the device, which can be done with the official drivers (not sure they even help)23:41
monkeyjuicedougl:  check with #raspbian ?23:41
zykotick9SilverSlimer: http://nouveau.freedesktop.org/wiki/FeatureMatrix/23:41
reisiothey're graphics drivers23:41
zykotick9reisio: hdmi and graphics are often tied together, as in this case.23:41
reisioright, my audio is through a nvidia device, too23:41
reisiobut the driver is unrelated23:42
zykotick9reisio: the driver IS related... as in this case23:42
reisioI don't see how, but I don't suppose it matters23:43
SilverSlimerzykotick9, mine is a NVA8. Not sure which one that ends up being23:43
reision50 it says23:43
zykotick9SilverSlimer: nor i, i'm afraid.  good luck.  I don't have any hdmi video cards.23:44
SilverSlimerwell, it's good to know that work is progressing either way23:44
reisioit says hdmi is "done" for your card23:44
reisiobut that's probably to do with primarily video23:44
reisioif you're having trouble with audio over hdmi, it's more likely to do with your audio driver, pulse or alsa config, or the cable itself (not all hdmi cables carry audio)23:45
SilverSlimerhmmm, nva8 = nv5023:46
SilverSlimerit says that hdmi audio is done23:46
SilverSlimeri guess i'll have to try it out later23:46
reisioit says that hdmi is done :p23:46
SilverSlimeri wasn't able to get it working with the nvidia driver23:47
reisioyou should try it out now :)23:47
SilverSlimerif it works with nouveau, i won't need nvidia for anything (this laptop is so not meant for gaming)23:47
Poolyhello, I'm sorry, I'm a new buy of linux OS and IRC clients... I have a question about the touchpad of my asus... can I ask here?23:47
reisioall the hdmi troubles people I've encountered had to do with pulseaudio/alsa23:47
reisioPooly: I don't know, can you? :)23:48
dobbieI have Xubuntu. I need to install Windows 7 ISO to my flash drive as multiboot to install Windows 7 from flash. How can I write ISO on my flash? Uneetbootin or Startup Disk Creator failed to burn windows 7 iso correctly23:48
SilverSlimerholy shit it works23:48
Poolyhahaha...  excuse my orrible english reisio23:48
zykotick9Pooly: are you using Ubuntu?  if so, then yes.23:48
SilverSlimeralright, free drivers for life23:48
Poolyyes I have ubuntu 1323:48
reisioSilverSlimer: heh23:48
reisioif nouveau is doing vdpau for my card now I might get into that myself23:49
reisiolatest nvidia driver was flaking out some23:49
zykotick9Pooly: sidenote - there is no "ubuntu 13" there is ubuntu 13.04 and the upcoming 13.10, but no 1323:49
SilverSlimerso far ubuntu makes my fedora experience look tame23:49
SilverSlimernouveau used to suck mostly because of the vsync issue23:50
SilverSlimerthe screen tearing was extremely annoying23:50
Poolyzykotick9: 13.04 yes...23:50
reisiowell it used to be very very new23:50
SilverSlimerit doesn't affect unity at all23:50
reisiothey've developed fast23:50
Poolyhere the question: when a wifi mouse is connected can I enabled the touchpad?23:51
dobbieI have Xubuntu. I need to install Windows 7 ISO to my flash drive as multiboot to install Windows 7 from flash. How can I write ISO on my flash? Uneetbootin or Startup Disk Creator failed to burn windows 7 iso correctly23:51
zykotick9Pooly: sidenote also, there is probably a ubuntu-irc channel in your native language (if your more comfortable in a non-english language).  if you're comfortable in english, then by all means use this channel.23:51
reisioPooly: disable?23:51
Poolyexcuse me exclude23:52
reisiodisable :)23:52
reisioPooly: is it bluetooth?23:52
Poolyok I'll try for a polish channel then... thank you23:52
zykotick9reisio: no, wifi ;)23:52
SilverSlimerpolish channel?23:52
reisiodobbie: to install the install image to flash, or the windows installation itself?23:52
SilverSlimeri speak polish23:52
reisiozykotick9: heh23:52
SilverSlimermy spelling is awful but i'll figure it out23:52
zykotick9!po23:52
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zykotick9does !pl make sense for polish?23:53
zykotick9!pl23:53
ubottuNa tym kanale używamy tylko języka angielskiego. Możesz uzyskać pomoc w języku polskim na #ubuntu-pl.23:53
reisioyes23:53
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SilverSlimerubottu: it's all good, my polish is verage23:54
SilverSlimeraverage too23:54
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Dictatordobbie, use pendrivelinux23:55
emersonexit23:57
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Dictatordobbie, try this if unebootin doesn't work http://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/23:58
ntzrmtthihu777dobbie: I've only used windows utils to burn windows iso's to usb, but there should be something for it.23:58
peterboa noite, algum de voces sabem como melhorar o tempo util da bateria?23:58
ntzrmtthihu777heyo, my ctrl+alt+arrow keys are not functioning for workspace swithcing23:58

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