[00:01] <exidos> gn8 folks ;)
[00:04] <sisterFister> ummmm
[00:04] <sisterFister> idk
[00:04] <sisterFister> i'm going to reinstall
[00:05] <sisterFister> GNU INSTALL
[00:06] <Zekka> Daftykins - Thanks for helping earlier, even though the problem turned out to be (most likely) trivial. System is now configured and dual boot works properly.
[00:06] <bastidrazor> new updates!! yah!!! oh wait. nvidia-current fails with kernel 3.2.0-52
[00:07] <bastidrazor> nvidia-304 is just mean with api mismatching
[00:07] <daftykins> Zekka: no problem :) i was just there for the ride, didn't really do anything :)
[00:08] <cecco> hi guys
[00:09] <cecco> I have ubuntu 12.04 LTS and I cannot use my webcam integrated on my laptop
[00:09] <cecco> does anybody can help me
[00:09] <daftykins> cecco: have you attempted to identify it and look up whether it works under Linux?
[00:10] <wilee-nilee> cecco, Is cheese installed?
[00:11] <cecco> no... I'm doin'it now
[00:14] <jb992> Give us a shout when it's done installing
[00:14] <daftykins> jb992: er what?
[00:15] <jb992> daftykins, ?
[00:15] <daftykins> oh was that a follow up from the cheese install idea?
[00:15] <daftykins> sorry, on my client that line was invisible
[00:16] <jb992> Yep
[00:18] <pac1> join #qt
[00:19] <Ebou_Dar> n
[00:20] <wilee-nilee> pac1, /join #qt
[00:20] <Huriachi> Good morning #ubuntu
[00:20] <chester> ola
[00:20] <qin> Huriachi: That's relative
[00:21] <Huriachi> lol, true :P
[00:22] <Huriachi> Is there someone who can assist me with a slight annoyance?
[00:23] <usr13> cecco: What does lspci say about it.
[00:23] <usr13> ?
[00:23] <usr13> cecco: Correction:  What does lsusb say about your webcam.
[00:23] <usr13> ?
[00:24] <daftykins> that's what i was gonna get to
[00:24] <daftykins> but he seemed to just disappear...
[00:24] <chester> estou no Ingles quero ir para portugues..
[00:24] <chester> ......
[00:24] <usr13> cecco: lsusb |pastebinit  #Show is the URL
[00:24] <wilee-nilee> !br | chester
[00:24] <Huriachi> I'm trying to get a x2x setup going, but my other device uses touch-screen based input. It's hiding the cursor automatically. Any idea how to stop that?
[00:26] <kAEnt> is there anyone here? kubuntu seems dead
[00:26] <ThePendulum> I am
[00:26] <ThePendulum> Point and shoot
[00:27] <kAEnt> thanks
[00:27] <kAEnt> i have a strange problem
[00:27] <kAEnt> i just installed kubuntu and i can get to the login screen just fine but after i log in and the loading thingie shows up the screen goes to lines and then freezes
[00:27] <kAEnt> how can it be driver issues if i can see the login screen
[00:27] <kAEnt> the same thing happens on the live cd
[00:28] <kAEnt> when i choose "Try"
[00:28] <kAEnt> any suggestions? i dont even know where to begin on the forums or google
[00:28] <usr13> kAEnt: Quit using Enter key for punctuation.
[00:28] <XMLnewbi> so I can do a SU but if I try to log in as the new user it crash's. what can cause a sftp user to crash putty?
[00:29] <usr13> kAEnt: lspci |grep VGA  #Tell us what that says.
[00:30] <wilee-nilee> XMLnewbi, Details to the channel for help.
[00:30] <usr13> kAEnt: cat /etc/issue  #Tell us what that says.
[00:30] <kAEnt> moment
[00:31] <wiak> kAEnt: what gpu?
[00:31] <XMLnewbi> I followed, http://devtidbits.com/2011/06/29/implement-a-sftp-service-for-ubuntudebian-with-a-chrooted-isolated-file-directory/ and now when I try to log into the new user in dreamweaver or putty it crashs.
[00:31] <kAEnt> 00:0d.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation C61 [GeForce 6150SE nForce 430] (rev a2)
[00:31] <kAEnt> im on archpup right now on a usb stick
[00:31] <Lecter> yo
[00:32] <Lecter> how can i launch a vmware once its installed
[00:32] <Lecter> ?
[00:32] <wilee-nilee> XMLnewbi, read the second paragraph. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[00:32] <kAEnt> i dont know how it can be a video driver issue if i can see the log in screen
[00:33] <usr13> kAEnt: What version of Kubuntu did you install?
[00:33] <asdasd_> what's the best distro if i want to keep things minimal visually
[00:33] <wilee-nilee> asdasd_, In the ubuntu group?
[00:33] <kAEnt> 13.04
[00:33] <L-sama> anybody using hello, i have installed vmware, how to launch it so i can install stuff in my virtual machine
[00:34] <asdasd_> in the ubuntu group as opposed to
[00:34] <kAEnt> should i try the lts version?
[00:34] <usr13> kAEnt: pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log   #Show us resulting URL
[00:34] <asdasd_> what, as opposed to like, mint or something
[00:34] <usr13> kAEnt: Wait, you said youre booted to a USB right now?
[00:34] <wilee-nilee> asdasd_, This is ubuntu support only lubuntu/lxde would be the easiest, and other OS are on other channels.
[00:34] <daftykins> L-sama: i'll bet vmware have documentation
[00:34] <XMLnewbi> I am able to use su to become root, and able to su to the new user from root, I am NOT able to log into a differnt user from putty, or from dreamweaver for ftp
[00:35] <kAEnt> usr13: right now cause the kubuntu wouldnt let me log in but i could get to a tty if i didnt log in first if i logged in it would freeze
[00:35] <kAEnt> usr13: so i could move around i just rebooted into my usb stick
[00:36] <kAEnt> usr13: im using a remote shell to connect to irc
[00:36] <somsip> XMLnewbi: sounds more likely to be due to the restrictions set by the sshd.config on the server. And the ftp account
[00:36] <usr13> kAEnt: Ok, well not much we can do unless you boot to it.
[00:37] <kAEnt> usr13: one sec
[00:38] <wilee-nilee> XMLnewbi, "By default, the Root account password is locked in Ubuntu. This means that you cannot login as Root directly or use the su command to become the Root user" https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[00:38] <XMLnewbi> I did edit my sudo nano +76 /etc/ssh/sshd_config and changed Subsystem sftp /usr/lib/openssh/sftp-server to  Subsystem sftp internal-sftp and added Match group sftponly ChrootDirectory /var/www X11Forwarding no AllowTcpForwarding no ForceCommand internal-sftp
[00:39] <ayecee> hi. I'd like to optimize directories on / with e2fsck's -D option on boot. I see I can force a fsck by touching /forcefsck, but how might I apply the -D option for this fsck?
[00:39] <XMLnewbi> I am on a VPS, I am able to ssh into root. I am not able to ssh into a newly made user
[00:39] <wilee-nilee> ayecee, THat is not needed linux is optimized in its design.
[00:40] <wilee-nilee> ayecee, If you have a ssd there are other ways.
[00:40] <ayecee> wilee-nilee: it is necessary in this case, to shrink a directory structure in which i created many files.
[00:40] <kAEnt> well ill be
[00:40] <kAEnt> it works now
[00:41] <wilee-nilee> ayecee, believe what you will. ;)
[00:42] <ayecee> wilee-nilee: ls -l reports the directory at nearly 4mb instead of the more typical 4-8k.
[00:43] <ayecee> err, ls -ld
[00:43] <XMLnewbi> man I am tempted to just use root at my ftp user
[00:44] <wilee-nilee> ayecee, Not an area I have a lot od expertise in but running that fsck everytime does not seem like a correct answer.
[00:45] <ayecee> wilee-nilee: just one time would suffice.
[00:45] <wilee-nilee> ah it looked like you wanted it everytime.
[00:46] <ayecee> this would be trivial in single-user mode or with usb boot, however the machine is remote.
[00:47] <Vivekananda> hello. I get no MTA installed when running chrome and a solutions says to install a mail application. Which one should I install for ubuntu. ? is pine the one ?
[00:47] <kAEnt> usr13: i just rebooted this time and it worked fine i dont get it
[00:48] <ayecee> Vivekananda: pine is a MUA. sendmail, exim or postfix would be MTAs. i'm not sure why you'd need one.
[00:49] <Vivekananda> ayecee: because of this --- helo everyone. using ubuntu and trying a cron. trying to use gnome-schedule on lubuntu 12.04.(any alternatives if better suited plz suggest ) I get--  No MTA installed, discarding output .  I tried this --  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cron/+bug/891869    and also it directed me to this --   http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1823285 .
[00:50] <ayecee> Vivekananda: doesn't seem like a problem unless you want the output from the cronjob.
[00:51] <ayecee> normally you wouldn't need it.
[00:53] <XMLnewbi> I guess third time is a charm
[00:56] <Vivekananda> ayecee: I am trying to run a cronjob to do what I don in a a console by typing -- foo/.run.py   or python  foo/run.py  my cron line and the syslog output is here --- http://pastebin.com/0XdyPG2G
[00:57] <Vivekananda> what is wrong ?
[00:59] <Vivekananda> I also tried this --  http://pastebin.com/bZ4nr8eZ
[00:59] <ayecee> nothing is wrong.
[00:59] <ayecee> it's just telling you that it's discarding the output from the job.
[01:00] <ayecee> you could probably prevent that message by adding this at the end of the command: >/dev/null 2>&1
[01:01] <Vivekananda> ayecee: do you mean it is executing the run as I want it too
[01:01] <ayecee> yes
[01:01] <sadasd> i just tried to install elementaryOS
[01:01] <sadasd> and all it did was install ubuntu
[01:01] <sadasd> any ideas
[01:01] <Vivekananda> also I dont understandd what to choose from 'default behaviour' 'suppress output' ' xapplication'  'x application supress output'
[01:02] <Vivekananda> if it is executing the .run then is it similar to doing ./run.py in the console
[01:02] <ayecee> Vivekananda: yes
[01:02] <Vivekananda> also which one of the pastebin is correct ? the first one ( xwrapper.py) or the second one ?
[01:03] <renegade_> Does any one here have any experience with vnc4server?
[01:03] <ayecee> Vivekananda: i don't know. i would think the second one.
[01:03] <IdleOne> !mint | renegade_
[01:03] <Vivekananda> ayecee: but in the auxiliary process I dont see the 'run.py' it is not running !!
[01:03] <Vivekananda> my server has not started
[01:04] <wilee-nilee> sadasd, elementaryOS has a channel #elementary
[01:04] <sadasd> k thanks
[01:08] <grahamsavage> hi
[01:08] <grahamsavage> I'm trying to change network settings (i.e. dns etc)
[01:08] <grahamsavage> and i can't seem to be able to do it
[01:09] <grahamsavage> I click on options under All Settings > Network and nothing happens
[01:12] <JavaCrash7_> plasa.id.allnetwork.org
[01:14] <abc_> Yo guys
[01:17] <newp> I cannot get Ubuntu on my new laptop w/ UEFI for the life of me.  I swear I want to murder microsoft.
[01:18] <newp> I've been at it for over 12 hours trying..
[01:18] <newp> I'm either a complete newbie moron or the world is plotting against me.
[01:20] <HackerII> its the world
[01:20] <daftykins> newp: it wasn't Microsoft.
[01:20] <daftykins> newp: what exactly are you trying and what is happening?
[01:21] <newp> UEFI is causing all the problems & last time I checked that was MS's doing.
[01:21] <newp> I can't get Ubuntu to install/boot on my new laptop.  no matter what I try
[01:22] <newp> disabling UEFI, adding nomodeset, acpi, u name it
[01:22] <newp> maybe I'm doing something wrong, I'm not very linux savy.. but I've installed Ubuntu on like a dozen machines & NEVER run into problems.
[01:23] <newp> anyway, I'm done messing with this for the night.  if you have any ideas feel free to PM me.
[01:23] <fermulator> Does anyone have experience installing grub2 on a standalone partition, solely for the purpose of chainloading to other OSs? - I want to do: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MasterBootLoader#A.284.29_Configuring_the_.22Master_Boot_Loader.22_for_the_First_Time
[01:24] <fermulator> (I used to be able to do this with legacy grub, but cannot figure out grub2...)
[01:24] <wilee-nilee> fermulator, If you have a OS with grub 2 already you can use it.
[01:25] <fermulator> wilee-nilee: I prefer to have a standalone "boot master" partition -- such that if the OS that is managing the 'master boot', messes up, I can easily still boot into other OS
[01:25] <fermulator> the wiki link I refered to outlines the concept
[01:25] <wilee-nilee> fermulator, YOu need it in the mbr as well
[01:26] <newp> wilee, you believe I've been going back & force on the forums since we last spoke & I've gotten absolutely nowhere.
[01:26] <daftykins> newp: is the flash drive you made known-good for UEFI boot in another system?
[01:27] <wilee-nilee> newp, You have a link to your thread?
[01:27] <newp> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2169334
[01:28] <fermulator> wilee-nilee: for example, installing w/ grub2 was successful, but it doesn't create any menu entries: http://pastebin.com/b0kHd61M
[01:28] <newp> defty, what do you mean known-good for UEFI boot?
[01:29] <newp> it's just a 8 GB PNF Attache flashdrive
[01:29] <daftykins> can you test it on another UEFI system?
[01:29] <newp> PNY*
[01:29] <daftykins> as in you know it successfully boots
[01:29] <newp> I don't have another UEFI system.
[01:29] <daftykins> so you can't be sure the flash drive is bootable then?
[01:30] <wilee-nilee> newp, Have you tried getting rid of that wubi stuff?
[01:30] <newp> well I successfully installed off it but then Ubuntu stopped booting
[01:30] <daftykins> oh ok you have gotten further than just booting live mode
[01:30] <newp> I can also boot Ubuntu off it to try w/o installing
[01:30] <newp> wilee:  yes, I'm pretty sure I did
[01:31] <newp> I deleted the files in my C: drive & also the original wubi.exe
[01:31] <Zildjiandrummerx> I'm Running Ubuntu 13.04 on Virtualbox (I'm testing it for the 1st time), Can you help me out installing a USB driver so that the virtual machine can recognize my USB memories? I'm running Virtualbox 4.2.16
[01:32] <wilee-nilee> newp, Run the bootinfo summary again and make sure thte entries are gone from windows.
[01:32] <wilee-nilee> wubi entries
[01:32] <daftykins> Zildjiandrummerx: there are likely roughly 1 million guides online for that
[01:33] <newp> and yeah dafty, I installed Ubuntu successfully (after not knowing I had to disable SecureBoot & FastBoot) with wilee last night.  I used Ubuntu for the night then shut down before bed.  upton waking up I booted my PC & Ubuntu just kept hanging on that black screen I describe in the thread
[01:33] <wilee-nilee> newp, wubi is removed with the standard add remove.
[01:33] <newp> wilee: yeah I will.
[01:33] <ATaTTack> so whats a good channel to start out on?
[01:33] <usr13> ATaTTack: For _______________ ?
[01:33] <newp> I went to add/remove it throgh control panel after I deleted the files (stupid, I know) & it said the unintall files could not be found "would you like to remove it from the program list"
[01:34] <wilee-nilee> newp, The only thing I'm noticing here is that you seem to not be following some standardized approaches in general, this may be due to your frustration.
[01:34] <ATaTTack> getting to know IRC
[01:34] <usr13> ATaTTack: Genreal Linux information?
[01:34] <ATaTTack> and yes
[01:34] <newp> maybe so, but it also has to do with the fact that I don't know Ubuntu lingo that well
[01:34] <usr13> ATaTTack: #linux
[01:34] <usr13> !irc | ATaTTack
[01:35] <newp> it's difficult for me unless the directions are layed on
[01:35] <usr13> ATaTTack: correction:  ##linux
[01:35] <ATaTTack> thanks
[01:35] <newp> honestly wilee, I need a break.  I'm burning myself out on this.
[01:36] <wilee-nilee> newp, My advice is don't do it unless you have confirmation it is correct, ask for more definitions of what you may not understand, not trying to preach at you. ;)
[01:36] <wilee-nilee> yeah take a break.
[01:36] <newp> I know that, but others aren't as patient with newbs like me :P
[01:37] <newp> I don't like taking people's time & bugging them.  especially when you're taking time out of your day to help me for free
[01:37] <wilee-nilee> newp, That mod is, they are your best ally.
[01:37] <usr13> newp: Directness sometimes comes off as impatience.
[01:39] <newp> usr: I get what ya mean.  it's tough to read one's attitude through the internet though.  I certainly don't mean it that way & I try to tell folks that when I can.
[01:39] <newp> anyhow, thank you both.  I'm gonna take a break, have a whiskey or two & get some sleep.
[01:39] <wilee-nilee> newp, When I'm helping I'm serving myself first, basically, some realize this some don't, don't worry about taking up our time. ;)
[01:40] <newp> :)
[01:40] <newp> thank you bud.  it's appreciated more than you know :P
[01:40] <wilee-nilee> we all serve ourselves first always
[01:41] <newp> true I guess, when it comes down to it
[01:42] <newp> anyhow, I'm outta here.  I've been staring at these screens far too long lol
[01:42] <netlar> true joy is helping others
[01:42] <newp> talk to you folks tomorrow
[01:43] <seanzky> anyone here own an android tab?
[01:45] <wilee-nilee> seanzky, There are android channels
[01:46] <wilee-nilee> seanzky, If this is ubuntu related tell us waht's up
[01:46] <vanishing> im pulling my hairs out...
[01:46] <seanzky> well im new to ubuntu and im trying to format my sdcard
[01:47] <seanzky> i no longer want fat32 and i want to use ext4. it seems to work fine on my laptop but on my xoom it cant see the card
[01:47] <vanishing> wired ethernet connects, and obtains ip, but cannot connect to outside world..
[01:48] <seanzky> vanishing, firewall?
[01:48] <wilee-nilee> seanzky, So your problem is the card being read as a ext4 by an android tablet?
[01:48] <seanzky> yeah
[01:48] <vanishing> seanzky: i dont think that would be the case...
[01:48] <seanzky> i thought android would have no problem reading ext4
[01:48] <wilee-nilee> seanzky, #android
[01:48] <vanishing> but let me try anyways..
[01:49] <seanzky> thanks will try
[01:50] <wilee-nilee> seanzky, I would ask them I have a android phine and a nexus 7, have used only a fat32 card.
[01:50] <vanishing> seanzky: oh wow..it indeed is the case..
[01:50] <seanzky> nice!
[01:50] <vanishing> seanzky: lol..thanks mate
[01:50] <seanzky> no problem!
[01:50] <luciano> what icon is this http://cdn.xfce.org/about/screenshots/4.10-1.png ?
[01:51] <seanzky> wilee-nilee, i didnt like the 2gb limit for file xfers hehe
[01:51] <wilee-nilee> seanzky, fat32 is 4 gigs
[01:51] <seanzky> i meant 4
[01:51] <wilee-nilee> I get the meaning though
[01:52] <seanzky> i was trying to copy a 5gb and it failed :(
[01:52] <wilee-nilee> seanzky, Have you tried airdroid for transferring?
[01:53] <seanzky> i have but it has a limit now
[01:53] <seanzky> its no longer free, as soon as it left beta
[01:53] <vanishing> next time when my cable network slows down to 2m I can call them and proudly tell them "I am connected directly to your modem using wired connect, and the connection is slow."
[01:53] <seanzky> vanishing, but you have to make sure it's nothing on your end slowing down your connection. hehe.
[01:54] <vanishing> seanzky: meh..they dont care about that, and im pretty sure its not my problem :D
[01:54] <seanzky> hehe
[01:57] <wilee-nilee> seanzky, I'm not sure but take a look here. http://www.talkandroid.com/guides/beginner/best-android-apps-for-transferring-files-over-wifi-june-2013/
[01:58] <usr13> seanzky: You don't have a usb cable?
[01:59] <seanzky> i do
[01:59] <seanzky> what about it, usr13
[01:59] <usr13> seanzky: Plug it in.  (You don't need an app.)
[01:59] <seanzky> i know, but the file limit still kicks in
[01:59] <wilee-nilee> seanzky, What ubuntu release are you running, there is a ppa for mtp for 12.04
[01:59] <seanzky> i have 13.04
[02:00] <seanzky> no ppa for raring?
[02:00] <wilee-nilee> should plug and work with no file limit to the android
[02:00] <wilee-nilee> depends on the android version what is it seanzky
[02:00] <usr13> seanzky: If you don't want to plug it in, you can use filexpert via WiFi
[02:01] <seanzky> im using custom roms
[02:02] <usr13> seanzky: What is a "custom rom"?
[02:02] <seanzky> cm 10.2 on my phone
[02:02] <wilee-nilee> seanzky, They are based on a google release though.
[02:02] <seanzky> eos on my tab
[02:02] <seanzky> yeah
[02:02] <wilee-nilee> 10.2 should just mount, does here.
[02:02] <seanzky> android 4.2.2 and 4.3
[02:02] <usr13> Too many acronyms
[02:02] <seanzky> i just tried on my phone and it didnt :(
[02:03] <seanzky> and its 4.3
[02:03] <seanzky> usr13, hehe
[02:03] <wilee-nilee> seanzky, YOu have the development usb ticked?
[02:03] <seanzky> yeah
[02:03] <wilee-nilee> strange
[02:03] <seanzky> i remember my phone being very picky when i first got this 64 card
[02:04] <seanzky> it was either exfat or fat32 if i recall correctly
[02:04] <seanzky> galaxy s3, that is
[02:04] <seanzky> i build my own nightlies, perhaps i broked something?
[02:04] <wilee-nilee> seanzky, https://launchpad.net/~langdalepl/+archive/gvfs-mtp
[02:05] <bazhang> !ot | seanzky
[02:05] <seanzky> sorry!
[02:05] <seanzky> well thanks anyway guys
[02:05] <wilee-nilee> seanzky, check the ppa.
[02:05] <seanzky> will do thanks again!
[02:05] <wilee-nilee> has a raring release
[02:07] <L-sama> hello,
[02:07] <L-sama> how can i see lets say all my games applications on ubiquity?
[02:07] <wilee-nilee> L-sama, if installed I would think the dash
[02:08] <L-sama> the dash only shows like 3 of them if i search games
[02:08] <wilee-nilee> search by name
[02:10] <L-sama> i can use my command line to launch by name
[02:10] <L-sama> whats the point in ubiquity?
[02:11] <L-sama> back to Gnome/fluxbox/kde and xfce
[02:11] <wilee-nilee> L-sama, You asked where they are if you search with it you will know.
[02:11] <L-sama> i want to look at the list of my games
[02:11] <L-sama> typing game in search doesnt solve the issue
[02:11] <L-sama> noob testing made ubiquity
[02:11] <L-sama> by exact name its command line
[02:11] <wilee-nilee> L-sama, I don't use unity, so I'm not sure games you add are there always
[02:12] <L-sama> np
[02:12] <L-sama> ill just get back to viable desktops
[02:12] <L-sama> like gnome
[02:13] <wilee-nilee> I use the shell, but using synapse and the cairo dock never the search
[02:14] <ganjika> how do i disable an infuriating touchpad?
[02:14] <wilee-nilee> ganjika, What desktop?
[02:14] <wilee-nilee> and what release
[02:15] <ganjika> lubuntu extra life edition
[02:15] <ganjika> oh desktop
[02:15] <ganjika> i think openbox
[02:15] <wilee-nilee> ganjika, NOt really supported here technically, however some might help.
[02:16] <wilee-nilee> lubuntu in general would need a file change most likely.
[02:16] <ganjika> y thank u
[02:18] <wilee-nilee> ganjika, I have an acer d250 that has a universal tap pad on/off, you might look there as well.
[02:19] <uronu> hey guys, is there any other deep freeze than ofris on ubuntu? I want to have a deep freeze on my ubuntu 12.04 client machines.
[02:19] <wilee-nilee> its a key set prompt
[02:19] <ganjika> i have one but it dont work :/
[02:21] <CorruptedHelix_> Hi! I'm trying to play music through Google Music on Ubuntu. However, the audio plays rather fast, faster than it actually should. I can tell this because of how fast the bar moves. Notably, you can't hear the audio, either.
[02:21] <CorruptedHelix_> This also occurs in Youtube (the video moves faster than it should), and occurs in both of my browsers, Firefox and Chromium.
[02:22] <goddard> i got the large 27 inch at 2560x1440 what kind of tweaks should I do
[02:23] <wilee-nilee> uronu, They might know more in ##linux if you are registered with freenode.
[02:23] <CorruptedHelix_> Actually, it's worth noting that Ubuntu doesn't seem to detect my laptop's speakers.
[02:25] <uronu> wilee-nilee: how do i register with freenode?
[02:25] <CorruptedHelix_> Actually, now it is...
[02:25] <wilee-nilee> !register
[02:26] <uronu> wilee-nilee: ubottu: thanks
[02:26] <uronu> !register
[02:26] <CorruptedHelix_> I do have an issue worth nothing, though. The sound for Ubuntu/GNOME doesn't sync with the sound buttons on my computer, I think I can explain it.
[02:26] <CorruptedHelix_> In GNOME 3, there's a Speaker icon in the top right, where I can change the volume.
[02:27] <CorruptedHelix_> Those are my speaker's volume controls.
[02:27] <CorruptedHelix_> However, F9 , F10 and F11 on my laptop also serve as volume buttons to change it.
[02:27] <CorruptedHelix_> These buttons bring up a GUI of the volume supposedly trying, but doesn't actually control the sound.
[02:27] <HackerII> CorruptedHelix_  you could install gnome-alsa-mixer
[02:28] <CorruptedHelix_> I was recommended to do that before and don't remember what came out of it
[02:28] <CorruptedHelix_> so I'll try it again
[02:28] <HackerII> do it from synaptic
[02:29] <wilee-nilee> goddard, Some cool 3d shades. ;)
[02:30] <CorruptedHelix_> HackerII: user reviews indicate 13.04 broke it
[02:30] <CorruptedHelix_> And since I'm on 13.04, that won't work
[02:30] <HackerII> huh
[02:31] <HackerII> then go in terminal and type alsamixer
[02:31] <CorruptedHelix_> Yeah, I see it.
[02:31] <CorruptedHelix_> I can change the volume, that isn't my problem. My problem is that it doesn't work with my hardware keys properly
[02:32] <HackerII> o
[02:32] <HackerII> no help there since your on 13
[02:32] <CorruptedHelix_> Fair enough. :p
[02:33] <enen92> does anyone know how I can import the configuration file of an openvpn in ubuntu without manually filling all the entries?
[02:34] <adamsilver> If I install skype from skype.com does it mean I will have to keep it up-to-date manually?
[02:34] <Extreminador> guys how can i know what error is giving in kmail when traying to access my hotmail account ?
[02:35] <HackerII> uronu  still there ?
[02:35] <uronu> HackerII: yes?
[02:35] <Extreminador> i press the button "check email" but email list is empety
[02:36] <wilee-nilee> Extreminador, Has it ever worked?
[02:36] <HackerII> i found this if itl help  http://xubuntugeek.blogspot.com/2012/07/how-to-deep-freeze-xubuntu-with-ofris.html
[02:36] <Extreminador> nop i installed it at 10 min ago
[02:36] <HackerII> 12.04
[02:36] <wilee-nilee> Extreminador, probably has to be setup correctly.
[02:36] <Extreminador> after i install it i did use the assistance to set the account (it seems fine)
[02:37] <Extreminador> it's using the correct pop3 server settings to receive and the correct smtp server setting to send
[02:37] <uronu> HackerII: thanks but I already tried that.
[02:37] <HackerII> what happened
[02:38] <wilee-nilee> Extreminador, You have it as ssl or what is appropriate
[02:38] <ghostnik11> question as I want to know if this command is correct: deb     http://deb.torproject.org/torproject.org raring main
[02:38] <uronu> This works for me http://www.upubuntu.com/2011/07/install-gofris-on-ubuntu-1104-to.html also in 12.04
[02:38] <Extreminador> how can i see the reason fot no connection ?
[02:38] <wilee-nilee> the correct ports?
[02:38] <ghostnik11> i want to add that to my ubuntu 13.04
[02:38] <Extreminador> humm let me check
[02:38] <HackerII> ok, nice
[02:38] <uronu> HackerII: thanks again, till then.
[02:38] <HackerII> ok
[02:38] <Extreminador> yup SSL/TLS on port 995 to receive
[02:39] <wilee-nilee> Extreminador, Might be just ssl, and what about the smtp?
[02:40] <Extreminador> under the port is something asking for the autentication type ... the option atm is on "plain" not sure what is this and what it the correct one
[02:40] <wilee-nilee> Extreminador, You might ask in ##winodws to confirm all that.
[02:40] <Extreminador> wilee-nileemthe smpt wait a second
[02:40] <Extreminador> ahh ok wilee-nilee i will
[02:41] <Extreminador> wilee-nilee but to finish smtp is at TLS, port 587 with "plain" option autentication
[02:41] <wilee-nilee> Extreminador, https://support.mozillamessaging.com/en-US/kb/thunderbird-and-hotmail
[02:42] <Extreminador> nice wilee-nilee i was seeing the options here http://www.emailaddressmanager.com/tips/mail-settings.html
[02:44] <wilee-nilee> Extreminador, It can be a push at times to get this all correct I'm actually able to get the free yahoo, by using my android server stuff, heh, heh. ;)
[02:44] <wilee-nilee> on thinderbird
[02:44] <Extreminador> wilee-nilee yess i can receive the email's now.. it was that aitentication thing
[02:44] <Extreminador> i set it to "clear text"
[02:46] <Extreminador> wilee-nilee i had the thunderbird but i don´t like it
[02:46] <wilee-nilee> I use the gnome shell, so it woeks here. ;)
[02:46] <Extreminador> thunderbird is very incomplete... i have several directorys and he just don´t copy them and organize them
[02:46] <wilee-nilee> works*
[02:47] <pvl1> dammit ubuntu still hits up my laptop too much
[02:47] <Extreminador> and thunderbird i did not manage to download the emails address as well
[02:47] <holstein> thunderbird is one of the more well developed applications for email on any platform
[02:47] <holstein> !language
[02:47] <holstein> pvl1: still "hits" up?
[02:47] <wilee-nilee> Extreminador, Cool, sounds like you gt it working.
[02:48] <wilee-nilee> got*
[02:48] <Extreminador> yup wilee-nilee thanks for that link... it had more complete information
[02:48] <Extreminador> still receiving emails
[02:48] <pvl1> holstein: woops, i meant it gets too hot
[02:49] <pvl1> im using 13.04 64bit, gnome-fallback (failback? idr) with no effects. trying to install propriety driver atm through synaptic, seeing no progress
[02:49] <Extreminador> holstein mybe it's my bad english but is "hits" a bad word ?
[02:50] <wiak> samba 4 is a mess on ubuntu 12.04 LTS :O
[02:50] <wiak> <- got errors of premissions when installing samba4 from ppa
[02:50] <wiak> apt*
[02:51] <pvl1> Extreminador: no i just wasnt paying attention
[02:51] <wilee-nilee> Extreminador, I think that was fir the d word by another
[02:53] <Extreminador> ahh ok lool
[02:53] <holstein> pvl1: i would try that driver that you are, and try something like xfce. xubuntu..
[02:54] <pvl1> holstein: i3 should be good. should probably start using it
[02:55] <Extreminador> hihihihi let me get back to the original enviroment of unbutu this one is giving some bugs
[02:56] <Extreminador> and i am not sure how to fix them... yet
[02:57] <Extreminador> where can i see some kind of tuturial to teach me how to find out or how to fix some random error
[02:57] <Extreminador> humm guess this is a very stupid question lool
[02:57] <Extreminador> forget the question
[02:57] <holstein> Extreminador: here.. if you elaborate about the *exact* error
[02:58] <Extreminador> but my question is exacle that... i would like to be able to figured out y self where i could fiz it...
[02:58] <Guest37381> #nick kling
[02:58] <Extreminador> mybe the not how to fix it but at least to check the correct file to fix it
[02:58] <Extreminador> but yehh wait a sec again
[03:00] <Extreminador> ok here it is...
[03:01] <Extreminador> when accessing the left menu and only when i chosse the aplication sub-menu it gives this error
[03:02] <Extreminador> i will parte a image it's beatter
[03:02] <Extreminador> humm print screen button does not work
[03:03] <wilee-nilee> Extreminador, does kubuntu have the screenshot app?
[03:03] <holstein> Extreminador: works for me.. usually just dumps an image in /home or */pictures
[03:03] <Extreminador> wilee-nilee well in the original unbuntu desktop enviroment i click on that button and it even make a sound
[03:03] <wilee-nilee> yeah
[03:03] <leeSL510> I'm on ubuntu 13.04 the you tube icon in the application launcher has an arrow as if it's open. What is the process to kill it.  If I right click the icon it doesn't quit.
[03:04] <Extreminador> what is called the paint program ?
[03:04] <holstein> Extreminador: are you using KDE? kubuntu?
[03:04] <Extreminador> no it's the one called enlightment
[03:04] <Extreminador> enlightement desktop enviroment
[03:05] <Gnu-centric_on_M> E-17?
[03:05] <Extreminador> Gnu-centric_on_M yup
[03:05] <holstein> Extreminador: then, the defaults are different.. if you are using the "original ubuntu desktop", then, you get the "original" apps and config.. when you customize, you are expected to customize
[03:05] <Extreminador> yup i know holstein that why i said that i should learn a little more about this
[03:06] <holstein> Extreminador: if you literally just started using E17, then, i agree.. you should just use it for a week or more first..
[03:06] <RichardLynch> I am running a recent ubuntu on old Toshiba Qosmio laptop
[03:06] <holstein> RichardLynch: "recent", or supported?
[03:07] <Gnu-centric_on_M> Pardon me for jumping in, but is there an *buntu that ships w/ E17?
[03:07] <holstein> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CheckingYourUbuntuVersion RichardLynch
[03:07] <Extreminador> what it the program name for the paint linux ?
[03:07] <RichardLynch> It was working this morning. Now I try and boot and HDD1 error shows up then Ubuntu splash screen
[03:07] <wilee-nilee> Gnu-centric_on_M, Its in the ubuntu repos.
[03:07] <holstein> Gnu-centric_on_M: not by default, but E17 is in the repos.. and *all* official ubuntu versions have it in the repos..
[03:08] <RichardLynch> Supported. I don't go for bleeding edge
[03:08] <Gnu-centric_on_M> ok, thanks, makes sense,
[03:08] <RichardLynch> I would like to make the splash go away.
[03:08] <holstein> Extreminador: i use the gimp.. there are *many* apps that are (AFAIK) like "paint"
[03:08] <Gnu-centric_on_M> was just curious
[03:08] <wilee-nilee> Gnu-centric_on_M, There is a ppa as wel;
[03:08] <holstein> Extreminador: please do not repeat questions
[03:08] <wilee-nilee> well*
[03:08] <RichardLynch> Or get into BIOS, but that's not for here.
[03:09] <RichardLynch> Or get into grub. Or get CDROM to boot w/ System Rescue CD.
[03:09] <Extreminador> holstein lol sorry thought you did not see it
[03:09] <RichardLynch> I have tried ESC, F2, and F12 for the BIOS. Actually all the Fx
[03:10] <Extreminador> i am asking this because yestarday i did use one that i know how to access using the unbunto desktop enviroment but using the e-17 not sure how to open it
[03:10] <holstein> RichardLynch: ubuntu, or any operating system will not be preventing or enabling you to access the bios or preventing you from booting a CD
[03:10] <RichardLynch> Yes. I am asking about skipping the splash screen.
[03:10] <holstein> !gpaint
[03:10] <holstein> !info gpaint
[03:11] <RichardLynch> I am avoiding the inevitable questions about BIOS boot and/or CDROM boot :-)
[03:11] <holstein> Extreminador: ^^ gpaint seems like an option... you should find it my opening the package amanger of your choice and searching "paint"
[03:11] <Extreminador> thanks holstein
[03:12] <holstein> RichardLynch: i think they are relevant, since they could indicate a hardware failure or problem for breakage that could be creating the issue you are seeing
[03:12] <Gnu-centric_on_M> GIMP seems so labyrinthine
[03:12] <holstein> Gnu-centric_on_M: then, dont use it
[03:13] <RichardLynch> Okay. Let's just say I tried all the usual things to get to BIOS. Getting to BIOS is a hardware issue. It's OT here, as you said.
[03:13] <RichardLynch> I am happy to try again.
[03:13] <Gnu-centric_on_M> wasn't meaning to complain, just commenting, sorry if I was out of line
[03:13] <holstein> RichardLynch: the bios is not related to the operating system.. you can remove the hard drive ubuntu is on, try getting into *anything* from there, and if you still have the same issues, you may find your questions more fit for a hardware channel
[03:14] <RichardLynch> That said, my original On-topic Qs were about GRUB, Splash screen.
[03:14] <holstein> RichardLynch: i would try til i get what i want to happen to happen.. i would want to try an older kernel.. i would try a live CD
[03:14] <RichardLynch> I am trying a System rescue CD. But I don't think it has priority in the BIOS.
[03:14] <holstein> Gnu-centric_on_M: you can both complain and comment in the #ubuntu-offtopic channel :)
[03:15] <holstein> RichardLynch: confirm that it does, or not.. if *nothing* will boot, you could have bad memory, or a bad motherboard.. or cables..
[03:15] <RichardLynch> The laptop goes into HDD1 really fast, and then Ubuntu splash covers that. I want to disable the splash.
[03:15] <Gnu-centric_on_M> ok, thanks,
[03:15] <RichardLynch> Error HDD1, I mean.
[03:16] <RichardLynch> Somehow Ubuntu is displaying that splash screen. Is the in GRUB boot loader?
[03:16] <holstein> RichardLynch: i would search for what the particular hardware needs for accessing the bios.. typically, if its easy, i'll pull a hard drive out so i dont "break" it by force restarting
[03:16] <smartboyhw> RichardLynch, you mean, the Ubuntu screen with 5 dots?
[03:17] <hellknight> I've been using Ubuntu 13.04 since its launch. It is great, but I can't find a calendar application for it. Could you guys recommend one?
[03:17] <smartboyhw> !calendar
[03:17] <smartboyhw> Ouch
[03:17] <smartboyhw> What the
[03:17] <RichardLynch> Yes. Two hard drives, a CD ROM, something and then what looks like a window maybe
[03:17] <jose> smartboyhw: wrong channel, I'd say
[03:17] <smartboyhw> !find orage
[03:17] <smartboyhw> uh hum:(
[03:17] <holstein> hellknight: google calendar.. or just try the ones in the repo.. there are many that are all different
[03:18] <smartboyhw> hellknight, try Orage
[03:18] <Gnu-centric_on_M> It just seemed to me, perhaps, that someone may have been looking for a simpler, lighter alternative to GIMP,  feeling, as I, that for the task at hand, GIMP is like taking slegehammer to a fly
[03:18] <hellknight> holstein: I've been using google calendar. It's good, but I'd like something native. I mean native app.
[03:18] <hellknight> smartboyhw: let me see
[03:18] <holstein> hellknight: there are many..
[03:19] <RichardLynch> Hypothesis: Boot loader fires up, HDD1 fails, and splash screen manages to display after that somehow.
[03:19] <holstein> RichardLynch: i could propose that "splash screen" is in a frame buffer or something, and not coming from the hard drive, but, more indicitive of a hard drive failure
[03:19] <hellknight> checking out orage.
[03:19] <RichardLynch> If that splash screen is in grub, I can quit bugging you guys, because Ubuntu isn't even running, really.
[03:20] <holstein> RichardLynch: when booting, you should be able to press "shift" and see more options for grub.. you shoudl also be able to boot a CD..
[03:20] <wilee-nilee> RichardLynch, YOu can text boot, no splash
[03:20] <RichardLynch> The first hard drive in the image is underlined in orange, if that helps...
[03:20] <holstein> RichardLynch: its not.. what are you talking about?
[03:20] <RichardLynch> Will turn around and try shift key.
[03:21] <RichardLynch> wilee-nilee, That was my first question. How though?
[03:22] <holstein> RichardLynch: press shift.. try getting into *anything*.. recovery console.. memtest
[03:22] <holstein> an older kernel
[03:22] <RichardLynch> No luck with shift key
[03:22] <pepee> so, what's the default package manager in ubuntu?
[03:22] <Gnu-centric_on_M> May I ask a q related to text vs. splash boot ?
[03:23] <pepee> Gnu-centric_on_M, yeah, just ask
[03:23] <holstein> RichardLynch: then, if it were my machine, i would be testing hardware with a live CD
[03:23] <RichardLynch> holstein, A boot kernel can include an image. I theorized that Ubuntu used that.
[03:23] <holstein> !ask | Gnu-centric_on_M
[03:23] <RichardLynch> holstein, If I could get the CDROM to boot, I would
[03:24] <holstein> RichardLynch: and, im proposing the potetial and alledged hardware failure is why you cant get the hard drive, or live media to boot
[03:24] <holstein> potential*
[03:24] <hellknight> orage is pathetic... I should probablu install the lightening extension to Thunderbird and deal with it for a while
[03:24] <Gnu-centric_on_M> ok thanks, I was just afraid about interrupting when it seems busy
[03:24] <wilee-nilee> RichardBronosky, At grub hit e and remove quiet splash
[03:24] <wilee-nilee> same on the cd
[03:24] <holstein> hellknight: there are plenty, friend.. you need to ask for what features you seek.. or, just open a package manager and search "calendar" and see whay they are
[03:24] <RichardLynch> holstein, Probably. Just trying to get the splash screen to go away
[03:25] <RichardLynch> wilee-nilee, I cannot boot CD. I cannot get to grub with shift key.
[03:25] <holstein> RichardLynch: remvoe the hard drive, and you'll know thre is *no* way ubuntu, broken or otherwise, is sending anything to the sscreen
[03:26] <wilee-nilee> RichardLynch, For the cd boot there is a outside the bios boot from menu, mine is the f12 key at powering on yours may be the same or different, the bios usually tells you this info.
[03:26] <RichardLynch> It's a laptop... I can remove the HD, but can't find another as a swap in...
[03:26] <hellknight> holstein: don't get me wrong mate. Actually, I have been using Arch Linux since last 4 years. It had evolution which had integrated calendar. Which I liked. I'm thinking of installing it now. I'm asking for features like the one in OS X calendar.
[03:26] <pepee> what's the default graphic package manager in ubuntu?
[03:27] <holstein> RichardLynch: you dont have to put *any* hard drive back in.. if you cant get to the bios without a hard drive in the machine and boot *anything*.. then, that is an indicator of the state of the hardware
[03:27] <wilee-nilee> pepee, whuch desktop?
[03:27] <pepee> wilee-nilee, unity
[03:27] <wilee-nilee> pepee, compiz
[03:27] <holstein> hellknight: ubuntu has *all* of those options as well.. if you "like" them, use them
[03:27] <pepee> wilee-nilee, package manager..
[03:28] <holstein> hellknight: i dont use OSX.. but, if you would like to elaborate about the features you see, a volunteer here might be able to point you in a direction
[03:28] <RichardLynch> Guess it's time to disassemble a laptop. That seldom is productive, but what the hey.
[03:28] <hellknight> holstein: Yup.. doing that now. The ones with KDE are also good, but they install a lot of dependencies which somehow I don't like.
[03:28] <RichardLynch> THANKS
[03:28] <hellknight> holstein: I
[03:28] <hellknight> holstein: I
[03:28] <hellknight> holstein: I'll stick with Evolution for a while and see how it turns out on the Ubuntu desktop.
[03:28] <holstein> hellknight: enjoy!
[03:29] <hellknight> BTW, anyone using Ubuntu on AMD graphics card? Friend wants to install Maya on his Linux installation but I don't know how well AMD cards are supported on Ubuntu. He might need propreitary drivers. I'm a NVIDIA users since last 5 years
[03:29] <wilee-nilee> pepee, Ah package manager, what is your definition of that, apt-get?
[03:30] <pepee> wilee-nilee, yeah, but the default one with a GUI
[03:30] <holstein> !mint | hellknight
[03:30] <holstein> !ati | hellknight
[03:30] <wilee-nilee> pepee, Hmm, not sure there is one specific, what is the goal here?
[03:30] <pepee> wilee-nilee, to install or remove packages from a GUI...
[03:31] <holstein> hellknight: it will be on a hardware by hardware basis really.. should be able to fire up a live CD, and refer to the wiki above and get a good idea
[03:31] <pepee> wilee-nilee, in KDE, for example, you have muon
[03:31] <MKCoin> How can I make my headphones the preferred audio output device in 12.04? So they always work when I plug them in; right now I need to manually switch to them.
[03:31] <holstein> MKCoin: you can try pavucontrol.. but i dont know if that will work either
[03:31] <hellknight> I'm sorry to bother you all, but the thing is that. I'm new to Ubuntu. I have been using Arch Linux & Fedora for a while. I switched to Ubuntu due to upcoming 14.04 LTS release & I like Ubunut's smooth transition between releases.
[03:32] <wilee-nilee> pepee, Not sure, in ubuntu you can load graphic stuff from the terminal the additional stuff in software sources, the ubuntu softwrae center or synaptic.
[03:32] <pepee> synaptic..
[03:32] <holstein> MKCoin: some hardware doesnt support linux/ubuntu that well, and just doesnt work all that great out of the box. my headphones automatically switch on most hardware of mine, and when they dont, i tolerate it
[03:32] <pepee> k, thanks
[03:33] <wilee-nilee> not sure there is a gui that covers all specifically
[03:33] <MKCoin> holstein: They are USB headphones, and they work flawlessly, even the custom volume control buttons on the wire, it just doesn't automatically switch to use them as output is all.
[03:33] <holstein> hellknight: you arent 'bothering' anyone.. its just not a maya support channel.. though, the driver suppport will be the same (likely) for any linux with the proprietary graphics cards
[03:34] <holstein> MKCoin: how did pavucontrol work for you?
[03:34] <MKCoin> I don't have it installed, just a moment
[03:35] <hellknight> holstein: thanks mate. We'll try to do a test install along with the official ATI driver from AMD & see how well it goes.
[03:36] <Extreminador> found someone having the same issue with Enlightenment http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1979434
[03:37] <holstein> hellknight: really depends on the card, but i suggest, try the open one first, then the one in the repos.. then move one to trying ones from the site
[03:37] <holstein> Extreminador: what issue?
[03:38] <MKCoin> eh didn't work holstein, nevermind I guess. It didn't work in 11.04 and it didn't work in 11.10, i was just holding out hope lol
[03:38] <hellknight> holstein: It is the latest 7850 along with AMD 8350 8-core processor. We're trying to build a workstation. Will do a lot of virtualization as Virtualbox & KVM are well supported. Will keep you updated.
[03:38] <Extreminador> holstein check the link it's the same issue
[03:39] <holstein> MKCoin: i dont think that'll work that way, since the device is gone at some point. you can try setting it in alsamixer.. or specifying with something in a asound.conf file. but i know what i would do
[03:39] <holstein> Extreminador: you would like the volunteers here to open that link, and read about the issue you are having?
[03:39] <ubuntu> salut
[03:39] <ubuntu> hi
[03:40] <holstein> hellknight: good luck.. with steam, i think driver support is getting "better" all the time for all linux
[03:40] <Extreminador> I simply click on the desktop and navigate to "Applications > Accessories" with my mouse, I get the title error... It goes as follows:
[03:40] <Extreminador> Enlightenment error: This is very bad. Enlightenment SEGV'd.
[03:40] <Extreminador> This is not meant to happen and is likely a sign of a bug in Enlightenment or the libraries it relies on. You can gdb attach this process now to try to debug it, or you could exit, or you could just restart to try and get your desktop back the way it was. Please compile everything with -g in your CFLAGS.
[03:40] <Guest22677> is there a beginner linux chanel?
[03:41] <holstein> Extreminador: are you using 12.04?
[03:42] <Extreminador> humm let me check... not sure th version but i think sow
[03:42] <holstein> Guest22677: there used to be an ubuntu beginners team.. the channel is still there.. #ubuntu-beginners
[03:42] <holstein> Guest22677: you can try a generall linux channel, though you shoudl be registered
[03:42] <Extreminador> holstein nop 0.16 the lateds one
[03:42] <Guest22677> so, how do i get there? bare in mind i just downloaded xchat, and its my first time using it..please?
[03:43] <holstein> Extreminador: are you running ubuntu 12.04?
[03:44] <Extreminador> 12.04.3 LTS holstein
[03:44] <Extreminador> yehh release 12.04
[03:44] <holstein> Extreminador: ppa's are not officially supported, but e17 just actually released recently (since 12.04 was released).. so you might benefit from a PPA such as https://launchpad.net/~efl/+archive/trunk which would give you the latest "stable" version of e17
[03:46] <Gnu-centric_on_M> if a PPA is signed by a known, trusted party, can't it be just as safe  as official repos?
[03:46] <Extreminador> ahh holstein i see thanks
[03:46] <Extreminador> will check that and will try to install it
[03:46] <holstein> !ppa
[03:46] <grahamsavage> Google Chrome under ubuntu is driving me nuts
[03:46] <grahamsavage> it keeps pausing
[03:46] <holstein> Guest22677: safety is not really the only issue.. its more about not being able to support all the 3rd party packages
[03:47] <grahamsavage> it's stalls as i'm trying to scroll up or down and i can't work out why.. i have 0 plugins installed and my computer is a total beast
[03:47] <grahamsavage> any ideas?
[03:47] <holstein> grahamsavage: works fine for me.. see that it is updated.. try removing the config. try starting from the command line and see it thre are errors
[03:48] <grahamsavage> all 4 cpu's are at < 4%,  31.1 Gb of free memory
[03:48] <grahamsavage> holstein: ok
[03:48] <holstein> grahamsavage: i agree that the system should "handle" chrome
[03:48] <grahamsavage> how do you remove the config?
[03:49] <holstein> grahamsavage: i usually just rename it temporarily
[03:49] <grahamsavage> ah is it in my home dir somewhere?
[03:49] <holstein> grahamsavage: i find mine in ~/.config/google-chrome
[03:52] <grahamsavage> holstein: hmm at first glance it seems to be performing well
[03:52] <grahamsavage> lol.. any idea why this sort of thing works?
[03:52] <grahamsavage> or is it the reinstall windows kinda approach?
[03:52] <holstein> grahamsavage: what worked?
[03:52] <Guest22677> who can tell me which commands i need to look at to get my internet dongle going on Mint14?
[03:52] <grahamsavage> ah moving the config file
[03:53] <holstein> !mint | Guest22677
[03:53] <grahamsavage> holstein: no errors
[03:53] <holstein> !wifi > Guest22677
[03:53] <Guest22677> i did read it
[03:53] <holstein> grahamsavage: something in that file was messing up chrome.. in the config for it and your user.. removing it makes a default fresh one start
[03:54] <holstein> Guest22677: then, you understand where to go for help with your mint operating system.. thanks!
[03:54] <Guest22677> i do, but i just have to figure out how to get there :)
[03:56] <holstein> Guest22677: this is #ubuntu on the freenode network.. #linuxmint-help is on irc.spotchat.org.. you'll /connect to spotchat like you do freenode and /join channels there
[03:58] <Guest22677> thanks , isee were i am now
[03:58] <Guest22677> ,bye
[04:00] <Kartagis> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution#Adding_undetected_resolutions <--- following this, how can I find out what my options for output are?
[04:00] <scarrs> hello I need to install ia32-libs whick no longer resides in the repo. Installing quake 3... what package do I need to install
[04:01] <holstein> !info ia32-libs
[04:02] <holstein> !info ia32-libs-multiarch
[04:02] <holstein> scarrs: is that what you need ^
[04:02] <Kartagis> !find ia32-libs
[04:03] <holstein> Kartagis: find is much more handy :)
[04:04] <scarrs> ty
[04:05] <Extreminador> when i use the command "sudo apt-add-repository http://ppa.launchpad.net/efl/trunk/ubuntu" it gives the error "ValueError: too many values to unpack"
[04:06] <holstein> Extreminador: you use the ppa, not the link to it
[04:06] <Extreminador> with out the http ?
[04:06] <holstein> also, its add-apt-repository"
[04:08] <holstein> for example.. for that PPA. "sudo add-apt-repository ppa:efl/trunk" should do it
[04:08] <holstein> Extreminador: ^
[04:08] <Extreminador> humm it says invalid
[04:08] <holstein> Extreminador: whats says what, exactly?
[04:09] <Extreminador> Error: 'ppa.launchpad.net/efl/truck/ubuntu/' invalid
[04:09] <holstein> Extreminador: thats *still* not the command i clearly pasted above that will add that ppa
[04:09] <holstein> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:efl/trunk
[04:10] <Extreminador> ahh you said the exact example to use
[04:10] <Extreminador> thouht it was a random example
[04:11] <Extreminador> yehh it have work
[04:11] <krz> gah thunderbird search is fucking annoying
[04:11] <krz> couldnt they have simplified this??
[04:11] <Extreminador> why the launchpad (for example) is not needed ?
[04:12] <Extreminador> the launchpad part (i mean)
[04:12] <holstein> !language | krz
[04:12] <holstein> Extreminador: its just the syntax for adding ppas
[04:15] <Extreminador> he is getting the right location (the link) to a repository of link's (ppa's links or whatever is called) ?
[04:17] <holstein> Extreminador: if you added the ppa, its added.. "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" will bring your E17 to the current version
[04:18] <Extreminador> ups it's the dist-upgrade to use
[04:18] <holstein> Extreminador: is that a question?
[04:18] <Extreminador> naaaa... just an aclamation
[04:19] <holstein> "dist-upgrade" does *not* upgrade the distrobution
[04:19] <Extreminador> because i did use the update... and them the apt.get install e17
[04:19] <holstein> Extreminador: you dont need to install E17, since you have already installed it
[04:20] <Extreminador> well not sure if it was because of the install use or not but after the dist-upgrade it have said to use apt-get -f install to correct some dependencys found
[04:22] <Extreminador> humm lool not working now the en17... can´t log on...
[04:22] <aztecwarrior> Hey guys, I have a weird situation that I don't know how to explain. I installed AMD drivers and now one of my folders looks weird. No idea what caused it or how to fix it. Any help would be appreciated. http://i.imgur.com/H9p9Kti.png
[04:23] <Extreminador> no error given
[04:24] <Extreminador> well but tomorrow i will continue with this
[04:24] <Extreminador> it's late... 5 am here
[04:24] <Extreminador> thansk guys for you patiente with me and explanations
[04:25] <Extreminador> see you all
[04:30] <aztecwarrior> Hey guys, I have a weird situation that I don't know how to explain. I installed AMD drivers and now one of my folders looks weird. No idea what caused it or how to fix it. Any help would be appreciated. http://i.imgur.com/H9p9Kti.png
[04:33] <HackerII> i didnt see a dif in any of them
[04:33] <reisio> aztecwarrior: looks weird how?
[04:34] <exidos> aztecwarrior, you can change the icon-theme in the systemcontrol
[04:34] <the_dark_knight> Hi I am trying to install libpcap-dev using apt-get and I get this error - http://bpaste.net/show/KAPQAfR8b3rs5cCf4eiL/ . I don't understand what the problem is? please help
[04:34] <dormito> Im trying to debug a program (ubuntu 12.10). however its chocking on a library call. Since its a dynamic link, is there a way that I can temporaroly have the program load different libs (specifically versions I built that were for debuging) rather than the standard ones ldconfig knows about
[04:34] <aztecwarrior> reisio, none of those files/folders are useable. if i double click the file/folder, the xubuntu has no idea what to do with the file/folder
[04:35] <reisio> aztecwarrior: the .txt files?
[04:35] <reisio> the_dark_knight: did you try what it said to?
[04:35] <aztecwarrior> reisio, yes, also the folders. i'm uploading another image
[04:36] <the_dark_knight> reisio: yes. same error
[04:36] <aztecwarrior> reisio, http://i.imgur.com/MCEwBFa.png
[04:38] <reisio> aztecwarrior: I'm not sure there's anything out of the ordinary with random files that haven't extensions confusing the file manager; you saying just recently this was not the case?
[04:38] <diegothinkpad> hello
[04:38] <exidos> the_dark_knight, try this "sudo apt-get install libpcap0.8-dev"
[04:39] <diegothinkpad> anybody here
[04:39] <aztecwarrior> reisio, correct. the folders were working fine and so were the files. after installing the amd drivers only this folder looks like this.
[04:39] <exidos> and then do execute your command again @ the_dark_knight
[04:39] <exidos> yes, we are here, diegothinkpad
[04:39] <gardon> the_dark_knight, try "sudo apt-get -f install" first
[04:40] <diegothinkpad> thanks so i see my ubuntu is working correctly
[04:40] <exidos> gardon, he did it, but "-f" doesn't do it
[04:41] <the_dark_knight> exidos: gardon yes. i get the same error
[04:41] <reisio> aztecwarrior: can you remount that filesystem?
[04:41] <exidos> the_dark_knight, with "-f" or with the command i gave you?
[04:42] <aztecwarrior> reisio, that "shit" folder is on zfs. i wasn't sure if exporting and them importing might solve the problem. i've been using zfs for a long time now and haven't had any problems.
[04:43] <the_dark_knight> exidos: with both
[04:43] <exidos> the_dark_knight, okay, one moment pls
[04:44] <Anom01y> why does my computer get extremely slow and screwy whenever I need to do a kernel update or other major updates ?
[04:44] <Anom01y> nvidia update also
[04:44] <reisio> aztecwarrior: I'll call this more of a hiccup, even if remounting "solves" it
[04:44] <reisio> Anom01y: because it's old
[04:45] <Anom01y> reisio, so hackers are attacking my system ?
[04:45] <Anom01y> because I just saw the update today,  and my computer was very slow, until I did the update and reset the computer
[04:46] <reisio> not sure I see the connection :)
[04:47] <aztecwarrior> reisio, so i exported the zfs mount and reimported and didn't solve the issue. i'll have to learn to backup more often.
[04:47] <aztecwarrior> reisio, thanks for your input
[04:48] <exidos> the_dark_knight, http://packages.debian.org/de/sid/libcap2 install this
[04:48] <exidos> the_dark_knight, then you have all dependencies
[04:48] <reisio> aztecwarrior: mmm, well, that's worth learning, but it could still be a simple issue
[04:48] <reisio> aztecwarrior: you might see what all got installed with your amd update
[04:48] <Dreki> Can someone explain the difference between nvidia-319 and nvidia-319-updates? Is nvidia-319-updates some way of upgrading from a lower package version? and will it only upgrade the former stable or will it also upgrade thee experimental-310 i had installed?
[04:49] <ChogyDan> Dreki: did you install from a ppa?
[04:49] <Dreki> ChogyDan: I installed nvidia-experimental-310 from a ppa yes
[04:50] <the_dark_knight> exidos: thanks.
[04:50] <ChogyDan> Dreki: then I think you need to use the ppa-purge utility
[04:50] <exidos> the_dark_knight, np
[04:50] <ChogyDan> Dreki: and no, -updates is just later released versions of the driver I assume, those after the formal ubuntu testing cycle
[04:52] <Dreki> ChogyDan: thanks
[04:54] <the_dark_knight> exidos: sorry to bother again. do you have a link to libcap 2.20 not 2.22. installing from your link gives error when i did - make
[04:55] <marz> I was wondering about the command "tar -zxvf (file name)" that is used to extract .tar.gz files. Regarding the option "-z" which uses gzip to uncompress the file and "-x" to extract it from archive. Aren't uncompressing and extracting the same thing?
[04:56] <Biafra> marz: in the case of tar, not really...
[04:56] <Biafra> the -z flag basically tells tar to send the tar.gz file through g(un)zip first before tar\
[04:57] <Biafra> it's basically a timesaver to use instead of pipes, > signs, stdout, and cat
[04:57] <exidos> the_dark_knight, http://mirror.linux.org.au/linux/libs/security/linux-privs/libcap2/
[04:58] <ChogyDan> marz: tar strings the files together, gzip compresses just a single file, ie, the single file that tar creates
[04:58] <exidos> the_dark_knight, remove the other package first!
[05:00] <marz> ChogyDan: Oh, so the tar command/application basically groups the files together in an archive, then the gzip compresses it to make it smaller
[05:02] <goddard> whats a good memory testing program?
[05:02] <the_dark_knight> exidos: gives error while make - /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lattr
[05:02] <wilee-nilee> goddard, There is one in the grub men eu and live cd's
[05:03] <wilee-nilee> good is an opinion
[05:04] <exidos> the_dark_knight, i had the same problem a long time ago. I did'nt know how I fixed it.
[05:04] <goddard> wilee-nilee: maybe thats what i want
[05:04] <DooshDroid>  hello
[05:04] <DooshDroid> I installed Linux mint over win 7 and now I'm just getting grub rescue
[05:04] <exidos> the_dark_knight, google a deb package for the libcap
[05:05] <xangua> !mint | DooshDroid
[05:05] <wilee-nilee> goddard, Then what is good for you is good for you, you are not new to this channel it does not work that way. ;)
[05:05] <goddard> wilee-nilee: ya ya i am so tired of hearing people say this
[05:05] <exidos> the_dark_knight, look into the debian doku or wiki of the package and his dependencies
[05:08] <the_dark_knight> exidos: okay. thanks
[05:09] <helmut_> hi
[05:09] <ChogyDan> goddard: I think all the programs run the same tests.  You may want to look into which test is the good one
[05:10] <adamsilver> which version of oracle java i should install at this time?
[05:11] <ChogyDan> adamsilver: yes?
[05:11] <adamsilver> ChogyDan: what do you mean
[05:12] <exidos> adamsilver, the newest dude
[05:12] <xangua> adamsilver: java.com offers the latest if that is what you ask
[05:13] <ChogyDan> adamsilver: just install the latest.
[05:13] <ChogyDan> adamsilver: or maybe just use the open source one till you really need the oracle version
[05:14] <exidos> ChogyDan & adamsilver for chats the oracle is in the most cases needed ;)
[05:14] <adamsilver> ChogyDan: I really need the oracle version actually
[05:15] <adamsilver> I am confused by java.com options, what is the difference between RPM and the other
[05:15] <exidos> adamsilver, you need deb ;)
[05:15] <exidos> adamsilver, these are the different package container
[05:15] <wilee-nilee> !java
[05:16] <wilee-nilee> adamsilver, ^^^^^ the open source and oracles are not any diffrfenet in some versions
[05:16] <wilee-nilee> different
[05:17] <ChogyDan> im pretty sure there are oracle 7 debs
[05:17] <wilee-nilee> and 8
[05:17] <exidos> true true
[05:17] <ChogyDan> adamsilver: https://launchpad.net/~webupd8team/+archive/java
[05:18] <ChogyDan> wilee-nilee: that java page just isn't up to date
[05:18] <adamsilver> ok, so oracle-java7-installer is the latest version, correct?
[05:18] <ChogyDan> no, I guess 8 is.  I'm out of date in that regard  :)
[05:19] <lataku> weird, somehow can't get utf8 working in xterm screen, with screen -U
[05:19] <lataku> my terminal is set to utf8
[05:19] <adamsilver> ChogyDan: this where I am confused. I saw 8 somewhere but the docs you guys referred me to contains the instructions for 6 and 7 only
[05:20] <adamsilver> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java#Command_line_methods
[05:20] <exidos> adamsilver, 8 is just in developement, 7 is the latest version
[05:21] <exidos> adamsilver, Java 8 is like a "Beta", install the 7, this is the latest version of oracle java at the moment
[05:21] <wilee-nilee> ChogyDan, the external links go straight to oracle and sdk, not exactly out of date that is a generalized comment, and it is info in some extent.
[05:21] <exidos> adamsilver, 32-Bit: jre-7uVERSION-linux-i586.tar.gz | 64-Bit: jre-7uVERSION-linux-x64.tar.gz
[05:22] <ChogyDan> wilee-nilee: yeah, it is late for me.  I stopped at the line that says, "there are no debs"
[05:22] <adamsilver> ok, thanks guys
[05:23] <wilee-nilee> adamsilver, You have to research, this channel is part of that if your lucky. ;)
[05:24] <Biafra> adamsilver: 7u25 is the latest stable Oracle Java that is on webupd8team's PPA
[05:24] <exidos>  jre-7u25-linux-i586 is the latest java of oracle
[05:24] <exidos> ^^
[05:25] <adamsilver> wilee-nilee: I know, I just don't want to screw up the new installation I have been customizing since a few hours :)
[05:25] <wilee-nilee> adamsilver, Cool,
[05:25] <Biafra> also, unless you're using something that requires Oracle Java (e.g., developing for Android), it's a tossup
[05:25] <Biafra> as to which is best between OpenJDK and Oracle Java
[05:27] <adamsilver> Biafra: I am using PyCharm for Python development and when I use OpenJDK I get a warning message saying I should use Oracle's Java
[05:30] <Biafra> adamsilver ... yeah, basically add the webupd8team/java ppa then update then install oracle-java7-installer
[05:32] <adamsilver> Biafra: it worked, thanks
[05:33] <Biafra> adamsilver ... excellent
[05:37] <Kartagis> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution#Adding_undetected_resolutions <--- following this, how can I find out what my options for output are?
[05:38] <ChogyDan> Kartagis: i think you need to look up the specs for your monitor
[05:38] <Kartagis> ChogyDan: I mean, there is S-output, VGA and so on. I'm talking about those
[05:39] <saki`> has anyone here ever worked with postgressql?
[05:41] <wilee-nilee> saki`, The channel works with you stating your issues for help.
[05:43] <saki`> oh okay
[05:44] <saki`> i'm trying to change the encoding for postgres sql databases from SQL_ASCII to UTF-8
[05:44] <saki`> this is the only thing i've found that directly addresses it : http://jacobian.org/writing/pg-encoding-ubuntu/
[05:47] <saki`> but to do that the default locale on my server needs to be en_US.UTF-8
[05:48] <Squarism> what is that "top" replacement called? ie better top
[05:48] <reisio> Squarism: htop?
[05:49] <Squarism> that might be it
[05:49] <saki`> and sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales doesn't work
[05:49] <Squarism> talking about better. There is a better version of traceroute to?
[05:49] <Squarism> or. i know there is but cant remember the name
[05:50] <Squarism> mtr it was
[05:59] <saki`> ah
[06:00] <reisio> ah
[06:04] <Dreki> So i have been using nvidia-experimental-310 and have had great success. Is nvidia-319 a newer driver than nvidia-experimental-310 and if so should i consider switching? Am i likely to get better FPS?
[06:06] <Kartagis> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution#Adding_undetected_resolutions <--- following this, how can I find out what my options for output are?
[06:07] <Kartagis> I mean, there is S-output, VGA and so on. I'm talking about those
[06:07] <Biafra> Dreki - Yeah, it's newer. I'm not sure about FPS though since I'm using Radeon
[06:12] <uronu> hello guys, I want to install an ubuntu desktop client with already a netbeans application or other apps in it. No need to download from the internet.  I mean when installation the application is installed also. Any idea or how can we done it?
[06:13] <uronu> mirror?
[06:42] <A1Recon> As per the man page of ping command -a gives an Audible Ping. So I guess the PC should make a sound when a ping is successful, right? But when I type this "ping -a www.google.com" in the terminal, the pings are successful but I don't hear any sound.
[06:45] <A1Recon> 1660 participants and the #ubuntu is a ghost town.... ODD
[06:46] <reisio> almost 3am
[06:46] <reisio> for some reason people leave IRC on all the time
[06:47] <nevyn> it is not 3am
[06:47] <reisio> it's not 4am, either
[06:48] <reisio> A1Recon: what term are you using?
[06:48] <smeraldo94> Ciaooo
[06:48] <smeraldo94> !list
[06:49] <reisio> A1Recon: also what I'm reading here suggests it makes a sound when it starts pinging after previously failing
[06:49] <A1Recon> reisio: The terminal that comes in with Ubuntu 13.04..... There are types of terminals? I knew about Cygwin for Windows but I didn't know there are different kinds of Terminals for Ubuntu...
[06:50] <reisio> A1Recon: sure, there are hundreds probably
[06:50] <Xentinel> anyone here using VMware workstation?
[06:50] <reisio> A1Recon: see what happens if you disconnect physically from your network, run ping -a www.yahoo.com, then reconnect
[06:51] <reisio> Xentinel: probably someone does
[06:52] <Xentinel> reisio, probably yes, I'm having some annoying stability problems with running a Windows VM in it
[06:52] <A1Recon> reisio: Maybe the command works only if there's a piezo speaker on the Motherboard. But then piezo speakers are an old thing, I guess. And I don't think laptops have them.
[06:53] <tasslehoff> Can the super+<number> shortcuts that open applications be disabled?
[06:55] <reisio> A1Recon: if echo -e '\a' doesn't work, ping -a probably won't
[06:55] <reisio> in truth, most people hate beeping computers
[06:55] <reisio> the fake beeper is probably disabled by default these days
[06:56] <reisio> A1Recon: modprobe pcspkr ?
[06:56] <A1Recon> reisio: i ran the ping -a command first and then disconnected the LAN and reconnected.... no sounds
[06:56] <reisio> A1Recon: I'd just use && mplayer path/to/sound/file
[06:56] <reisio> or, more likely, && killall mplayer
[06:57] <reisio> since I'm usually already listening to music
[06:57] <reisio> or less dramatically: amixer sset Master toggle
[06:57] <reisio> but there are other approaches (that I wouldn't bother with :p) http://www.gentoo-wiki.info/HOWTO_Virtual_PC_Speaker
[06:58] <A1Recon> reisio: Thanks for the info and the help... I will  try this thing later....
[07:00] <reisio> :)
[07:09] <grahamsavage_> ok.. i'm having huge lagging problems in chrome every day
[07:09] <grahamsavage_> i'm running latest version, 0 plugins
[07:09] <grahamsavage_> it's like the whole tab freezes
[07:09] <grahamsavage_> for a few seconds and i can't do anything.. i've also reset my profile
[07:10] <lotuspsychje> grahamsavage_: did you try an uninstall
[07:10] <grahamsavage_> nah, i suppose i could try that next
[07:11] <lotuspsychje> grahamsavage_: firefox running fine?
[07:11] <lotuspsychje> grahamsavage_: or start chrome from terminal to see whats happening maybe
[07:11] <grahamsavage_> yeah it's still slow (as in the internet)
[07:11] <grahamsavage_> but the window doesn't lock up like it does in chrome
[07:12] <grahamsavage_> i've started from terminal.. no errors
[07:12] <lotuspsychje> grahamsavage_: you have slow connection?
[07:12] <grahamsavage_> yeah, slow connection and very slow dns
[07:12] <grahamsavage_> 1.5mb bandwidth but high latency
[07:12] <lotuspsychje> grahamsavage_: did you try on a fast wifi in your neighbourhood if chrome still lags?
[07:13] <grahamsavage_> there's no such thing :D
[07:13] <lotuspsychje> grahamsavage_: you live in the desert? :p
[07:14] <grahamsavage_> China :D
[07:14] <grahamsavage_> the only place where having a business class fibre-optic connection means nothing :)
[07:14] <Biafra> ouch... probably the golden shower... err... shield project
[07:14] <wilee-nilee> grahamsavage_, Purge it and remove it from .config, save the bookmarks first then reinstall.
[07:14] <lotuspsychje> grahamsavage_: well i presume your chrome lags comes from lowband internet
[07:15] <grahamsavage_> lotuspsychje: yeah but this is the software lagging
[07:15] <grahamsavage_> even if the pictures take a while to download
[07:15] <Biafra> grahamsavage_, have you tried using the beta or dev version of chrome?
[07:15] <grahamsavage_> doesn't mean it should lock up the whole window
[07:15] <lotuspsychje> lol
[07:15] <grahamsavage_> Biafra: no.. but my theory is if they haven't got it working in the last 4 months.. then they won't any time soon
[07:16] <Ov3rload> hi, i'm getting lag spikes with my wifi, any idea on how to solve? https://gist.github.com/Ov3rlo4d/c779007e2bf93d137961#file-lag_spikes
[07:16] <grahamsavage_> Biafra: i hate these kinds of errors.. i much prefer big ugly error message with a code
[07:16] <wilee-nilee> grahamsavage_, Have you checked the net speed?
[07:17] <grahamsavage_> wilee-nilee: like i said.. netspeed (throughput) is actually quite fast
[07:17] <grahamsavage_> comparativly... but DNS is pretty shocking
[07:17] <grahamsavage_> but the issue is not the dns lookup speed on the download speed.. it's the fact that the entire chrome tabs will lock up
[07:17] <grahamsavage_> all the time every day.. and it's enormously frustrating
[07:17] <grahamsavage_> ohh yeah key point.. doesn't happen in  OSX or Windows
[07:18] <Biafra> grahamsavage_, check your plugins
[07:18] <grahamsavage_> Biafra; 0 plugins, latest version, blank profile
[07:18] <Biafra> Then try beta or dev channel
[07:19] <grahamsavage_> ok
[07:19] <Biafra> start with dev
[07:19] <grahamsavage_> is it call chroem canary?
[07:19] <grahamsavage_> chrome*
[07:19] <Biafra> it will give you an inside peek into the next version, which you would not get for six week on stable...
[07:20] <Biafra> checking...
[07:20] <grahamsavage_>  sudo apt-get install google-chrome-unstable
[07:21] <Biafra> grahamsavage_, exactly
[07:23] <lotuspsychje> Ov3rload: seems like bad url, whats your chipset?
[07:24] <pakko> hi
[07:25] <Ov3rload> lotuspsychje: the url is good, github just went down. My card is this: Atheros Communications, Inc. TP-Link TL-WN821N v3 802.11n [Atheros AR7010+AR9287]
[07:25] <Ov3rload> lotuspsychje: using ath9k_htc
[07:25] <reisio> hi pakko
[07:26] <lotuspsychje> Ov3rload: default driver from install? what happens exactly with wifi, disconnects?
[07:27] <Ov3rload> lotuspsychje: yes default drivers. If i ping my router i normally ping about 1-2 ms, but occasionally about 5 pings in a row go up to ~400 ms
[07:27] <_45h_> hey, guys, i made btsync repository http://btsync.blindage.org/ for automatic updates
[07:28] <kofild> haha, great, i joined irc to ask a question, while i set up my irc client, i forgot what the Q was
[07:28] <lotuspsychje> Ov3rload: on what version of ubuntu?
[07:28] <_45h_> btsync is a bittorrent sync http://labs.bittorrent.com/experiments/sync/other-download.html
[07:28] <_45h_> something like dropbox, but useful
[07:28] <Ov3rload> lotuspsychje: 13.04, kernel 3.8.0-27-generic
[07:28] <lotuspsychje> _45h_: better share in offtopic mate
[07:29] <lotuspsychje> Ov3rload: did your issue happen on previous versions of ubuntu?
[07:31] <Ov3rload> lotuspsychje: yeah, i thinks so, but not really sure
[07:31] <Ov3rload> lotuspsychje: i'm noticing the problem now because i'm dealing with real time data stream, and a 400ms lag spikes are a bit disruptive
[07:32] <lotuspsychje> Ov3rload: maybe this can help: http://itsfoss.com/speed-up-slow-wifi-connection-ubuntu/
[07:34] <mweidele> exit
[07:36] <lotuspsychje> hmm seems like the atheros link on !wifi trigger is a bit outdated
[07:41] <goddard> how can i tweak my refresh rate?
[07:47] <kofild> Oh, yes, i remembered! OK guys, just one question. When i install ubuntu, and leave it to partition the disk however it wants itself, how much of diskspace goes for the system? and how much for swap?
[07:49] <ejv> it will probably ask you
[07:49] <lotuspsychje> kofild: as much as your needs
[07:50] <lotuspsychje> !swap | kofild
[07:50] <kofild> I understand i can set it, but when i choose the default option for installer to do it itself, how much does it leave by default? Or it varies depending on your hardware?
[07:50] <lotuspsychje> kofild: for the hd there a minimum for ubuntu, not sure how many again think 6gig
[07:51] <kofild> OK, let me put it this way, i see i bring confusion unintendedly. i have a 500GB disk, how much will it take for a / partition?
[07:52] <lotuspsychje> kofild: you wanna use ubuntu on full hd?
[07:52] <kofild> lotuspsychje yes. i don't dual boot.
[07:53] <lotuspsychje> kofild: as much as possible then, and leave 2gig for swap
[07:53] <atLANtis> hello guys
[07:53] <lotuspsychje> kofild: more easy is the option let ubuntu fill the hd in install
[07:54] <kofild> the reason i'm asking is because o don't want to partition myself just in case i don't mess up anything
[07:54] <kofild> so i'd like ubiquity to do it itself
[07:54] <kofild> but want to know if it takes atleast 20 gigs
[07:54] <lotuspsychje> kofild: sure
[07:54] <kofild> so i definitely have enough
[07:54] <kofild> space
[07:54] <kofild> for functioning
[07:54] <lotuspsychje> kofild: i would use whole hd by install itself
[07:55] <kofild> oh, is that the default option?
[07:55] <lotuspsychje> atLANtis: welcome mate, what can we do for you
[07:55] <atLANtis> hi lotuspsychje
[07:55] <atLANtis> thanks
[07:56] <lotuspsychje> kofild: no thats not the default, you can dualboot,upgrade, use full hd, manually partition..
[07:56] <kofild> OK, i'll try to check it in ubiquity
[07:57] <kofild> thanks lotuspsychje:
[07:57] <lotuspsychje> kofild: np mate
[07:58] <atLANtis> lotuspsychje, I'm having a lot of "system error" problems, was hoping someone could help me figure out what in my system is the problem
[07:58] <lotuspsychje> atLANtis: if you share us your details we can surely help you
[07:59] <kofild> Yeah, i wouldn't be me if i wouldn't forget something. Does Chromium update automatically in Precise, like Firefox?
[08:00] <lotuspsychje> kofild: if you have installed chromium, it will update with auto updates yes
[08:00] <lotuspsychje> !info chromium | kofild
[08:00] <kofild> lotuspsychje: again, thank you very much for your time and answer!
[08:00] <lotuspsychje> hmm
[08:00] <lotuspsychje> !find chromium
[08:00] <lotuspsychje> ah
[08:00] <kofild> ubottu: i won't use raring.
[08:00] <nachoLog> I have installed 13.04 desktop over 10 times on different laptops. every time after the initial "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade" or software update from Ubuntu software center. The PC will not shutdown. when i try to restart EVERYTIME it just goes into like a suspend mode. and every time i have to manually power off. then on restart Ubuntu checks disk for errors and then boots up fine. what is going on here?
[08:01] <kofild> WAT
[08:01] <kofild> :D
[08:01] <kofild> i have no idea what just happened :D
[08:01] <lotuspsychje> kofild: just install chromium on your system after install, doesnt come by default
[08:04] <nachoLog> after the initial softare update after a clean install from live usb am i supposed to get that suspend mode? is that the os reconfiguring or something after update? I have waited over 45 minutes before and nothing. and this happens every time i update after a clean install. what is this ? everyone must have this too right ?
[08:04] <atLANtis> lotuspsychje, thanks a lot. here: I'm running ubuntu 13.04 x64 on a Fujitsu UH572.  Currently only have 32GB of drive because had HDD corruption, using only the onboard SSD 4now. Everytime I boot, I get a system error. During 6 hours of work it's probable that I'll get 6 system errors. And often, the whole thing just freezes up and I have to force restart... Hope u could point me in the right direction.
[08:05] <lotuspsychje> atLANtis: what kind of system errors are we talking about?
[08:05] <lotuspsychje> atLANtis: can you check your logs at /var/log/syslog.1 ?
[08:05] <wilee-nilee> nachoLog, how many different laptops?
[08:06] <nachoLog> three
[08:06] <atLANtis> lotuspsychje, the errors have no clarification whatsoever, they only offer the option to submit report to ubuntu
[08:06] <lotuspsychje> atLANtis: normally you can detail those errors, pastebin them into channel here might be usefull
[08:07] <wilee-nilee> nachoLog, Are they perchance the same manufacturer, any similarities, what you describe never happens here is all, and some just do not suspend correctly or hibernate.
[08:07] <lotuspsychje> atLANtis: did to set IDE to AHCI in bios for your ssd?
[08:07] <gradiant> hmm
[08:07] <Gorgoroth> hi
[08:07] <Gorgoroth> i have a question
[08:07] <atLANtis> lotuspsychje, thanks will do. I meant to say the Error Popups didin't have any info whatsoever
[08:08] <ironhalik> Did I just saw ubuntu telling me my wireless mouse is low on power?!
[08:08] <nachoLog> wilee-nilee: its after the intial updates that when i restart it it goes into a gray screen suspend type mode and just sits there and wont power down. and when i restart the pc it checks disk for errors, but after that it never happens again. everytime its just after that initial update. so i am wondering if i am su[ossed to wait longer for it to shut down? is it thinking ? lol.
[08:08] <ironhalik> what the
[08:08] <lotuspsychje> atLANtis: a tail -f /var/log/syslog.1 can show you interesting stuff in realtime aswell (from terminal)
[08:08] <nachoLog> wilee-nilee: i have waited almost an hour before
[08:08] <atLANtis> lotuspsychje, I'm not sure - any way I can check without rebooting?
[08:09] <Moony22> whoops sorry
[08:09] <lotuspsychje> atLANtis: did your fujitsu have another Os using uefi before?
[08:09] <wilee-nilee> nachoLog, Problem here in actually getting to the bottom is specificities, there are a lot of possible variables, so all one can do is knock them out/
[08:10] <lotuspsychje> atLANtis: no, if its bios, you need reboot and enter
[08:10] <nachoLog> wilee-nilee: what i mean is like with windows after a big update you know how it takes a while for it to shut down. am i interupting a process by manually powering down there?
[08:11] <gradiant> nachoLog: I definitely wouldn't hit the power button while its installing updates?
[08:11] <nachoLog> gradiant: no no its after the upodates on reboot i get stuck in gray screen
[08:12] <nachoLog> gradiant: and only the first big round of updates after clean install
[08:12] <wilee-nilee> nachoLog, and the graphic cards are? Do you install any drivers outside the repos?
[08:12] <atLANtis> lotuspsychje: yeah, came with Win8. I should have mentioned this before, but I had to reinstall Win8 about 7 times before I decided to go with Ubuntu. Turned out, the HD was corrupted, which seemed to be the root of all those problems. I
[08:12] <emurillo510_2> hey i have a question, if i switch to ubuntu will my battery life be as bad as windows 7? i have a thinkpad x220
[08:13] <gradiant> nachoLog: oh, weird, sorry
[08:13] <lotuspsychje> !uefi | atLANtis
[08:13] <nachoLog> wilee-nilee: no just the sudo apt-get update && upgrade
[08:13] <deepfunk> hey all
[08:13] <wilee-nilee> emurillo510_2, slightly worse probably, battery binaries are not provided for linux in general.
[08:14] <emurillo510_2> slightly worse as in a coupe hours? or mins
[08:14] <wilee-nilee> nachoLog, Hard to say, all I can do is repeat that exacting details are the key here.
[08:14] <deepfunk> i have a question that concerns the software center on ubuntu 13.4
[08:15] <ntzrmtthihu777> Heyo, bit of an issue. running ubuntu 13.04, occasionally I get kicked back to the login screen, any info on debugging? what logs should I look at?
[08:15] <nachoLog> wilee-nilee: i know but this has been one thorn in my side from the begining and it is EVERYTIME i mean every install on three laptops over maybe 20 installs
[08:15] <wilee-nilee> emurillo510_2, Hard to say, you have not even shred the actual time they last now and we can't accuratelty estimate that
[08:15] <wilee-nilee> shared*
[08:16] <emurillo510_2> ic
[08:16] <nachoLog> wilee-nilee: unetbootin live usb from hash sum checked iso everytime after the initial updtes like i said when i reboot the pc wont shut down just gray screen
[08:16] <deepfunk> hey?
[08:16] <emurillo510_2> thanks
[08:16] <k1l_> !details | deepfunk
[08:17] <atLANtis> lotuspsychje: wow. thanks a lot! I didnt know there were so many extra checkpoints to setting it up. I literally haven't touched anything in the BIOS. Will do now.
[08:17] <nachoLog> wilee-nilee: and every single time i have to manually power off , and then on restart ubuntu checks disk for errors then boots up fine and never another issue. its just a glitch that is driving me crazy
[08:18] <deepfunk> I have a problem with ubuntu software center, i'm running ubuntu 13.04. When i try tio download tor through it, the dowload stops and it won't let me download anything else or stop the download
[08:20] <nachoLog> wilee-nilee: anyway i was hoping to hear that this was at least a common issue. if not then something bad is goin on here in my little world
[08:21] <k1l_> deepfunk: try using apt-get and look out for error messages
[08:22] <deepfunk> can't i stop the download?
[08:23] <nachoLog> i have a core i7 intel processor. how come every time i install 13.04 desktop 64 x86 distro. when i look at "about his computer" under "os type" is always says 32 bit? what is that?
[08:24] <wilee-nilee> deepfunk, stopping downloads in general cause problems, and may be the root of this one.
[08:24] <ntzrmtthihu777> deepfunk: this is why I use apt-get
[08:24] <deepfunk> i tried using apt get but it wont do
[08:25] <wilee-nilee> deepfunk, And wont do means?
[08:25] <k1l_> deepfunk: so you did install a .deb package?
[08:25] <jamescarr> how can I kill an upstart service that claims to be running when the process under it has exited?
[08:25] <reisio> jamescarr: how've you tried?
[08:26] <mcnesium> i am trying to start screens via crontab using @reboot /home/mcnesium/bin/startscreen.sh - this works, but the screens obviously do not use my environment variables. what can i do about it? when i start the script manually, eveything is ok since i am using the variables as well. can i say to use them in the shellscript, so that they get used when started automatically by cron?
[08:26] <jamescarr> reisio: I have tried sudo service xxxx stop
[08:26] <jamescarr> it hangs
[08:26] <jamescarr> I need to force stop it so I can restart it
[08:26] <jamescarr> I tried sudo service docker-registry restart, it also hangs
[08:30] <nachoLog> is Unetbootin can not install a 64 bit OS or something? both my laptops say that under "os type' is 32 bit but the ISo's i downloaded are hsh sum checked as 64 bit distro.. am i going crazy ?
[08:30] <Biafra> nachoLog, run uname -a
[08:30] <Biafra> check the output for amd64 and/or x86_64
[08:31] <nachoLog> 3.8.0-29-generic #42-Ubuntu SMP Tue Aug 13 23:12:18 UTC 2013 i686 i686 i686 GNU/Linux
[08:31] <nachoLog> but the distros were i386 right /
[08:32] <nachoLog> how can this be?
[08:32] <Biafra> nachoLog, are you certain the isos were for the 64-bit versions?
[08:32] <nachoLog> yes
[08:32] <nachoLog> very much yes
[08:32] <Biafra> how did you download them
[08:32] <nachoLog> hash sum checked from Untu releaes raring
[08:33] <nachoLog> Biafra: i download fro mthe Ubuntu releases everytime
[08:33] <Biafra> I mean, did you download directly from ubuntu.com?
[08:33] <Biafra> or via some other means?
[08:35] <nachoLog> Biafra: from ubuntu
[08:35] <Biafra> hmmm... have you tried using Pendrive Linux?
[08:36] <nachoLog> releases.ubuntu.com/raring
[08:36] <nachoLog> Biafra: no i have not
[08:36] <kenshiro> Hi, what's the scheduled hour for 12.04.3 point release? The web page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack is still not upgraded
[08:37] <nachoLog> i always choosed the PC(INtelx86) desktop image
[08:38] <nachoLog> Biafra: so i should try Pendrive Linux then yes
[08:38] <nachoLog> Biafra: maybe its Unetbootin the culprit
[08:38] <Biafra> In all likelihood nachoLog
[08:39] <Biafra> If that doesn't work, then try borrowing a friend's external DVD drive
[08:39] <Biafra> assumuming yours has problems, nachoLog
[08:39] <nachoLog> Biafra: i need an ultrabse for the thinkpad yes
[08:40] <nachoLog> Biafra: maybe its Unetbootin the culpritwhole house is the blu ray on my ps3
[08:40] <wilee-nilee> kenshiro, aug 22nd time who knows.
[08:40] <xintron> Where are ufw storing the forward rules that users added?
[08:40] <Increase> Hello everyone.
[08:41] <nachoLog> Biafra: oops .. i mean the only opticla drive i have is on my ps3 .. anywya i will try Pendrive Linux and see if that workd
[08:41] <Increase> I'm curious if anyone has used win32 to install live USBs
[08:41] <Biafra> kenshiro, 22 August, give or take a week
[08:41] <wilee-nilee> Increase, Why would you?
[08:42] <Increase> It keeps blocking my USB and making me reformat using bootice
[08:42] <nachoLog> Biafra: could the issue be that i am running a 64 bit os but it just says that under os type i am on 32?
[08:42] <nachoLog> oh wai tno because the output of uname -a
[08:42] <wilee-nilee> Increase, There are handfuls of usb loaders.
[08:42] <atLANtis> lotuspsychje, All of the options you and the Ubuntu help page mentioned are disabled in my BIOS... :(
[08:42] <Biafra> nacholog, the output of uname -a shows you are using a 32-bit OS
[08:43] <Increase> wilee-nilee that's what the kali-linux tutorial says to install with
[08:43] <nachoLog> Biafra: how could that be is so crazy
[08:43] <wilee-nilee> Increase, kali is not supported here.
[08:43] <Biafra> the only thing I can think of is that you may have accidentally downloaded the 32-bit ISO
[08:43] <nachoLog> how could i get a 32 bit os from a verified 64 bit iso
[08:43] <lotuspsychje> atLANtis: ok mate i would focus on future errors, pastebin them in channel for more specific help
[08:43] <nachoLog> Biafra: let me try getting the iso from ubuntu.com and not the releases.ubuntu.com instead...
[08:44] <Biafra> nachoLog, Who knows? To be on the safe side, delete your current ISO and download from ubuntu.com/download
[08:44] <Biafra> Make sure you select 64-bit, nachoLog
[08:44] <Biafra> from the dropdown
[08:46] <nachoLog> Biafra: yep here we go again.. this will be my umpteenth install. bbl
[08:47] <Increase_> Blah
[08:47] <josephtacos> is the a new way to enable mod_rewrite in apache2.4.6? on ubuntu 13.10
[08:47] <lotuspsychje> !13.10 | josephtacos
[08:47] <kenshiro> wilee-nilee Biafra ok, thank you! :-)
[08:48] <wilee-nilee> sure
[08:48] <atLANtis> lotuspsychje: thanks...  there it is -> http://pastebin.com/cMUraRrx
[08:49] <david_j_r> Anyone able to tell me how to get Windows share drives (which I can browse fine in Nautilus) into the system's "Places" menu on 13.04?
[08:50] <Increase> http://docs.kali.org/installation/kali-linux-live-usb-install states to use win-32 disc imager
[08:51] <Increase> I've tried pendrive linux and linuxlive USB and they didn;t work.
[08:51] <DJones> Increase: Thats for Kali, this channel only supports Ubuntu, you're probably better going to the Kali channel and asking them
[08:52] <Increase> I've never joined their channel
[08:52] <DJones> !kali
[08:52] <Increase> And it says I'm banned
[08:53] <DJones> Increase: If you join #freenode, the people there should be able to advise you who to contact in the kali channel to sort that out
[08:53] <AcidRain2012> Increase, thats because at one point a non registered user got glined
[08:54] <Increase> glined?
[08:54] <AcidRain2012> Increase, i have that issue in every channel except #ubuntu
[08:54] <Increase> And thanks DJ ones
[08:54] <AcidRain2012> Increase, ban
[08:54] <Increase> Ahh, gotcha
[08:54] <AcidRain2012> Increase, /ns register help
[08:54] <Increase> Thanks for the help guys
[08:54] <Increase> I registered this nick
[08:55] <Increase> But I can still talk with it even if I don't identify
[08:55] <Increase> I don't really get how it helps.
[08:55] <k1l_> Increase: for problems with other channels ask their op team or #freenode
[08:55] <k1l_> we cant help on that
[08:57] <Increase> k
[08:58] <NK`> is it normal that private bug on launchpad appears as if the page doesn't exist ?
[08:58] <NK`> or does that mean the bug have been removed ?
[08:58] <reisio> what's a private bug?
[08:58] <NK`> a bug flaged as "private"
[08:58] <NK`> flagged*
[08:59] <Increase> Hey guys, why can't you install stuff untill you do sudo apt-get update
[08:59] <Increase> It's annoying having to update everytime on live
[08:59] <auronandace> Increase: the repos have to be in sync
[09:00] <Increase> repos?
[09:00] <NK`> repository
[09:00] <auronandace> Increase: why are you using a live system then? why not do an install?
[09:00] <Increase> Gotcha
[09:00] <Increase> Still getting the hang of it
[09:00] <Increase> And I heard you can fuck you system up if you don't install correctly with windows
[09:00] <reisio> NK`: and that doesn't have anything to do with whether one can view it or not?
[09:00] <auronandace> !language | Increase
[09:00] <Increase> Sorrrrrry
[09:01] <auronandace> Increase: partitioning is really easy when you know how
[09:01] <NK`> reisio: that's exactly what i'm wondering
[09:02] <reisio> NK`: :)
[09:02] <Increase> auronandace ... I basically just said I don't know how. Lol
[09:02] <NK`> actually it's been the second time i report a bug which is automatically marked as a duplicate
[09:02] <reisio> NK`: what's the URI?
[09:02] <reisio> ah, well that happens
[09:02] <Huriachi> Hey #ubuntu, is anyone aware of a way to enable the cursor on a device with only a touch-screen input?
[09:02] <NK`> but the duplicate is marked as private
[09:02] <ntzrmtthihu777> auronandace: yep, but best way to do it is windows first, yeah?
[09:02] <auronandace> ntzrmtthihu777: indeed
[09:03] <NK`> but when i click on the private bug the answer is the same as if the bug doesn't exist, which is confusing
[09:03] <ntzrmtthihu777> Huriachi: should have one... I got a touch device and it has a cursor when I use that.
[09:03] <auronandace> !partitioning | Increase
[09:03] <reisio> Huriachi: check the theme
[09:03] <NK`> why would a bug be private anyway except for security reason ?
[09:04] <Huriachi> ntzrmtthihu777: I'll quickly give that a try.
[09:04] <auronandace> Increase: as always, when it comes to partitioning there is a risk so you should have backups (which is best practise anyway)
[09:05] <drasko> hi all my SD Card reader does not detect SD card inserted. Dmesg shows nothing
[09:05] <drasko> where to investigate?
[09:06] <Increase> !tails
[09:06] <drasko> any ideas?
[09:06] <Increase> Anyone know if tails is still in development?
[09:07] <Huriachi> reisio: Okay, the theme does not make a difference. When I connect my mouse from my PC the cursor appears, but promptly vanishes when it is removed.
[09:07] <raf> salve
[09:07] <reisio> Increase: plenty of other such live OSes if it isn't
[09:07] <auronandace> Increase: what is it? what does it do?
[09:07] <reisio> raf: salvete
[09:08] <raf> !addon
[09:08] <reisio> Huriachi: when the mouse is removed?
[09:08] <Increase> Tails is like ubuntu
[09:08] <Increase> It's a linux distro
[09:08] <auronandace> Increase: we only deal with ubuntu here
[09:08] <Increase> I just asked a question man...
[09:08] <auronandace> Increase: if you want info on other distros try ##linux
[09:09] <david_j_r> Anyone willing/able to tell me how to get Windows share drives (which I can browse fine in Nautilus) into the system's "Places" menu on 13.04?
[09:09] <yeehi>  I am trying to update the kernel. I fail with the following error message: unmet dependencies depends virtual package :  http://pastebin.com/66LduBtN
[09:09] <k1l_> Increase: this is a ubuntu support channel. i think we told you quite often now. we dont know what other distros or spinoffs changed so please ask them directly
[09:09] <Huriachi> reisio: Yes. When a mouse is hot-plugged, the cursor is visible only while the mouse is still present in the USB slot.
[09:10] <NK`> reisio: one of the uri btw : https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1215003
[09:10] <reisio> Huriachi: interesting
[09:10] <reisio> Huriachi: can you run 'pgrep -l unclutter' ?
[09:12] <sec_> what status of "retrieving file..."?
[09:12] <sec_> it's stoping long time..
[09:14] <burg> hello. is ubuntu server 12.04.3 released and stable? is it safe to install it instead of 12.04.2 ?
[09:16] <k1l_> burg: it was released just today
[09:16] <burg> k1l_, i am trying to install it from usb stick just now, and at 'detect hardware' step it tells me that my installation cd-rom couldn't be mounted
[09:16] <Huriachi> reisio: 'pgrep -l unclutter' does not return any running processes. I've also just noticed that the mouse is briefly present when Ubuntu starts up, or shuts down.
[09:17] <reisio> hrmmm, I wonder how they're disabling it
[09:18] <reisio> Huriachi: you might compare the output of 'ps aux' with and without the mouse inserted
[09:21] <burg> k1l_, and i got the image from here: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-server/precise/daily/current/ (which was updated 2 days ago, not today). and on the official download page there is still 12.04.2 version
[09:21] <k1l_> burg: that are not the stable releases
[09:22] <gordonjcp> burg: how are you creating the USB stick?
[09:22] <burg> k1l_, so where do i find the stable server 12.04.3 ?
[09:22] <k1l_> daily means its the daily development release
[09:22] <burg> using unetbootin
[09:22] <k1l_> burg: the https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseSchedule says it will come today. then its not released yet
[09:23] <k1l_> burg: but you can install a 12.04.2 this will become a .3 with updates
[09:24] <burg> k1l_, the problem is that 12.04.2 doesn't have a driver for my network adapter, so i can't have an internet connection.
[09:25] <iclebyte> morning.
[09:25] <reisio> mornin'
[09:26] <david_j_r> Hi! 	Anyone willing/able to tell me how to get Windows share drives (which I can browse fine in Nautilus) into the system's "Places" menu on 13.04?
[09:28] <ActionParsnip> david_j_r: add it to bookmarks
[09:28] <ActionParsnip> david_j_r: cog menu on the top right of nautilus, if memory serves
[09:29] <david_j_r> ActionParsnip: locations *are* bookmarked, but don't show up in *places* which is all you get in some dialogs.
[09:29] <david_j_r> Here's a screenshot to show difference: http://i.imgur.com/ow4hEoa.jpg
[09:30] <david_j_r> Nautilus on left has bookmarks; "Save file" dialog from browser only has "Places".
[09:30] <david_j_r> So you can't save download directly to shared drive. :S
[09:31] <david_j_r> (The "shared" bookmarks locations are the M: and U: locations on the left.)
[09:32] <msq> I join
[09:33] <sec_> wtf
[09:33] <sec_> it takes hour for installing language packs
[09:34] <Zooty> Hey, am I able to install Windows 7 on one hard drive and Ubuntu on the other hard drive, then somehow choose between them at startup ?
[09:34] <gordonjcp> Zooty: grub
[09:35] <Zooty> Do I install Windows 7, then Ubuntu over it? Or does it not matter?
[09:35] <DJones> Zooty: Yes, thats straight forward, install windows first, then Ubuntu
[09:35] <Zooty> So I could leave my current installation as it is now then just install Ubuntu on the other hard drive?
[09:35] <DJones> Zooty: Ubuntu will then install the grub bootloader which will let you select which operating system you want to start up
[09:35] <Zooty> Oh thankyou!
[09:36] <Huriachi> reisio: Nothing changes between the two 'ps aux' outputs.
[09:39] <reisio> Huriachi: the humanity
[09:39] <reisio> Huriachi: look around for a udev rule maybe
[09:41] <sec_> hi
[09:41] <sec_> oh reisio
[09:41] <Huriachi> reisio: I'll give that a go
[09:42] <reisio> sec_: ?
[09:44] <sec_> reisio: why install take much time?
[09:45] <reisio> sec_: how long is it taking?
[09:46] <sec_> reisio: more than 1hour till now
[09:47] <reisio> sec_: that sounds atypical
[09:47] <sec_> i don't choose download from internet but it's downloading packages....
[09:48] <reisio> ah
[09:48] <reisio> yeah that's annoying
[09:48] <reisio> probably the simplest way to avoid that is to install without a network connection :)
[09:49] <blazemore> Although you'll still have to get the updates after installation
[09:49] <sec_> yes but feeling is importal
[09:50] <blazemore> It'll take longer because you will be installing the old versions and then downloading new versions as well
[09:50] <blazemore> If you just install them during the installation process, you won't have to redownload anything
[09:50] <reisio> but he'll be able to use the OS while it's happening :)
[09:50] <blazemore> longer in total, I mean
[09:50] <blazemore> I suppose. Although in the time we've been discussing it they'd have finished anyway lol
[09:51] <reisio> maybe for people othe than sec, anyways, heh
[09:53] <sec_> so this is not newest? ubuntu-12.04.2-desktop-i386.iso
[09:53] <DJones> sec_: It will be the newest iso, but there will still be updates since the iso was created
[09:54] <Araneidae> How can I serve my own DNS names for my local network with an Ubuntu server?
[09:54] <DJones> sec_: 12.04.2 was released on 14th February, so there will be a lot of updates since then
[09:54] <Araneidae> I can install bind or I can use dnsmasq, I think, but configuring things right is eluding me...
[09:54] <sec_> DJones: so should update iso then, i lost more than 1hour dl iso, now need morethan 1hour wait download update :(
[09:55] <babinlonston> Network error please verify my pstein
[09:55] <babinlonston> pastein
[09:55] <babinlonston> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6013465/
[09:55] <babinlonston> histo: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6013465/
[09:55] <DJones> sec_: I'd just be patient, 12.04.3 hasn't been released yet, so even if you redownloaded the iso, you'd then have to go through the updates
[09:56] <Araneidae> For instance, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Dnsmasq makes no mention of resolveconf, which is unfortunate as it thoroughly gets in the way
[09:56] <babinlonston> configured br0 now br0 removed and i cant up the network
[09:56] <DJones> sec_: The iso's don't get updated everytime and updated piece of software gets added/released, they're only released about every 6 months
[09:57] <sec_> DJones: great. instalation complete now
[09:58] <Guest60599> how can I connect a jack audio client...Could not connect to JACK server as client. - Overall operation failed. - Unable to connect to server
[10:00] <sec_> DJones: https://www.dropbox.com/s/6ny88sjsmjwrfj6/ufsk.png feeling confused
[10:01] <DJones> sec_: That looks like your graphics drivers still need to be installed/updated & configured, its not something I've had issues with
[10:01] <Quest> how much memory and processor does a fresh ubuntu/ kubuntu install _actually_ takes while idle?
[10:01] <DJones> sec_: Can you give details to the channel on what graphics card you have so that somebody can advise you better
[10:02] <sec_> DJones: i am using virtualbox
[10:03] <sec_> DJones: it's default by virtualbox config 4.2.16 imo
[10:03] <DJones> sec_: Thats definatly something I don't a lot about, I very rarely use it, hopefully somebody else here will be able to advise you
[10:03] <NK`> reisio: the origin bug : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-datetime/+bug/1215310
[10:04] <NK`> hm
[10:04] <NK`> what's wrong with this bot
[10:05] <DJones> sec_: You could also join #vbox and ask there, thats a virtualbox support channel
[10:06] <Guest60599> I just want to use audio rec.
[10:07] <Guest60599> to make music
[10:08] <Araneidae> How do I tell my system which DNS nameservers to use?
[10:09] <Araneidae> More specifically (as /etc/resolv.conf has been taken over by resolvconf), how do I tell resolvconf?
[10:12] <Guest60599> using Qjack... how do I connect my self as a client?
[10:14] <sec_> DJones: should i try 13.4?
[10:15] <Araneidae> Where do upstart scripts live now?
[10:15] <TylerWhitney> anybody here help me out with stunnel or point me to a good room to ask about it?
[10:16] <Araneidae> (Trying for really easy questions now)
[10:16] <Guest60599> is ubuntuStudio ok to make music?...
[10:16] <DJones> sec_: Was anybody able to help you in vbox? I'd try and get the problem sorted out rather than just changing versions
[10:17] <sec_> DJones: noone help...
[10:17] <Araneidae> Channel seems witless at the moment :(
[10:18] <DJones> sec_: Give it a bit of time, maybe ask the question again in about 10-15 minutes
[10:18] <blazemore> Araneidae: For the DNS thing, are you on a desktop or a server?
[10:18] <DJones> Guest60599: Ubuntustudio is media based, the best people to speak to will be in their dedicated channel, #ubuntustudio
[10:19] <Araneidae> blazemore, well, it's a lubuntu box set up as an HTPC, but it's going to have to stand in as a server for the time being
[10:19] <cfhowlett> Guest60599, come over to #ubuntustudio and restate the issue
[10:19] <Araneidae> I'm currently trying to get dnsmasq set up, but I don't think I know what I'm doing yet...
[10:20] <jpds> Araneidae: None of us do, actually.
[10:20] <Araneidae> I'm sure that's true ;)
[10:20] <Araneidae> However, we all know little fragments
[10:20] <blazemore> Araneidae: look in /etc/dhcp/dhclient.conf
[10:20] <Araneidae> It looks like I need to configure all of network-manager, resolvconf, and dnsmasq
[10:21] <Araneidae> blazemore, even though I'm setting up a static IP?
[10:21] <blazemore> Araneidae: Yes
[10:21] <Araneidae> Ah, ok
[10:21] <Araneidae> Not much there actually
[10:21] <blazemore> Araneidae: I think the line is called "prepend domain server" or something
[10:22] <Araneidae> Oh, I see.  And there I can give it my domain name!
[10:22] <blazemore> No, that's for static DNS servers
[10:22] <blazemore> what ends up in /etc/resolv.conf
[10:22] <TylerWhitney> I have installed stunnel4 with apt and then edited /etc/stunnel/stunnel.conf to my liking, but if I try to run stunnel /etc/stunnel/stunne.conf or simply stunnel stunnel.conf from that directory it still seems to be ignoring the conf file
[10:22] <Araneidae> Thanks.  Which bit do I restart after hacking this file?
[10:22] <blazemore> Araneidae: networking
[10:22] <blazemore> !dns
[10:23] <blazemore> oh not that
[10:23] <Araneidae> Ah.  Yes, I need to configure that somewhere: I've put some entries in /etc/hosts, but I'd like them to resolve with my full local domain name
[10:23] <blazemore> then you need to put "search example.com" in resolv.conf
[10:24] <trindaz> having trouble with ssh tunnelling, is this the place for help with that?
[10:24] <blazemore> !ask
[10:24] <Araneidae> blazemore, yes ... but alas resolvconf is in the way!
[10:24]  * Araneidae curses the growing complexity of systems
[10:25] <blazemore> Araneidae: there's /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/tail
[10:25] <Araneidae> aha.  Ta.  Dammit, everything is scattered
[10:25] <blazemore> man resolvconf
[10:25] <trindaz> I have 3 computers - (1) is not allowed to talk to (3) but can talk to (2) and (2) can talk to (3) so I want to set up an SSH tunnel on (2) so that all requests to :3306 get forwarded straight to (3) which will let (1) talk to (3).
[10:25] <trindaz> How do I do that?
[10:26] <trindaz> do I need to log on to (2) and run a command?
[10:26] <Zorky> Im asking here, because it seems to be the easiest. Has anyone experienced a bug in unity where, when pressing the gear button top right corner. That you need to hold the mousebutton down in order to navigate the dropdown menu?
[10:27] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[10:27] <jrib> trindaz: well how do you intend to setup a tunnel on (2) without logging in at *some* point
[10:27] <TylerWhitney> FYI I solved my own problem, "stunnel" is just a perl wrapper script to "stunnel4" and was therefore ignoring me specifying the conf file, when i simply used the stunnel4 command it resulted in what I expected -_- noob
[10:28] <trindaz> i assumed I would need to - I've tried various combinations of ssh -L and ssh -R and I just don't understand what's what - I've read the man page a couple of times and I still don't ge tit
[10:28] <Araneidae> trindaz: use `ssh -L 2222:host3:22 host2` and leave it running, then use `ssh -p 2222` locally to connect to host3 from host 1.
[10:28] <Araneidae> Think there's a command line option to detach the first command
[10:28] <jrib> trindaz: you have two options, you can set up a tunnel (as Araneidae as given you a concrete example for) or you can just use ProxyCommand option with ssh
[10:29] <Zorky> i would apriciate if people could answer me question. even tho you havent experienced the bug.
[10:29] <eltigre> hey, I have a problem with my signatures
[10:30] <eltigre> apt-get update says it can't download several signatures
[10:30] <voltagex> hi, I'm getting a black screen after GRUB when trying to boot a liveUSB via UEFI
[10:30] <denker> Hello when I am trying to make a new resolution in xrandr it just tells me this: X Error of failed request:  BadName (named color or font does not exist)   Major opcode of failed request:  140 (RANDR)   Minor opcode of failed request:  16 (RRCreateMode)   Serial number of failed request:  33   Current serial number in output stream:  33       what am I doind wrong?
[10:31] <denker> I need to lower my monitors refresh rate btw
[10:31] <denker> that's what I am trying to do
[10:31] <trindaz> aaah so it can't be 2222:host3:2222
[10:31] <DJones> Zorky: People generally don't reply if they don't know, could get a bit much if 1700 users replied just saying no, sorry, no idea :)
[10:31] <trindaz> has to be different ports
[10:32] <Zorky> DJones:  i know. i was counting on people that was active in the channel at the time. could just give me a private answer or anything. since im lost regarding this issue
[10:32] <blazemore> trindaz: this is what I use in my .ssh/config file http://paste.ubuntu.com/6013554/
[10:32] <blazemore> trindaz: Replace "target.com" and "intermediate.com" obviously
[10:32] <trindaz> that's interesting, so i can skip port numbers all together if i want?
[10:33] <Zorky> voltagex:  are you trying to install ubuntu on a mac computer?
[10:33] <trindaz> oh hang o nnow
[10:33] <reisio> 22 is the default
[10:33] <trindaz> that was -q
[10:33] <blazemore> Yeah that has the benefit that you can set up as many hosts to tunnel through intermediate as you want
[10:33] <blazemore> trindaz: It's kind of the same as doing "ssh intermediate ssh target" which would work just fine
[10:33] <blazemore> It just makes it more automatic
[10:34] <Araneidae> blazemore, something wierd: after restarting networking the network manager icon has vanished from the taskbar!
[10:34] <blazemore> Araneidae: You just said you were using static IPs...
[10:34] <Araneidae> Absolutely, so presumably I want to tell network-manager to go get lost?
[10:34] <Araneidae> How do I do that?
[10:35] <blazemore> http://askubuntu.com/questions/249944/how-can-i-completely-remove-networkmanager
[10:35] <blazemore> !lubuntu
[10:36] <Araneidae> Ah, think adding the append line to dhclient.conf or something has given network-manger kittens anyway.  Thanks for the link, will set up stating networking
[10:40] <[OS]Cazazo> help me please... when opening the terminal.. I got the error message: bash: /etc/bash_completion.d/cvs: line 278: syntax error: unexpected end of file
[10:42] <[OS]Cazazo> I have tried to gedit the file, but doesn't open it...  I got another error message
[10:42] <[OS]Cazazo> ** (gedit:2691): WARNING **: Hit unhandled case 0 (Error reading from file: Input/output error) in parse_error.
[10:44] <Araneidae> [OS]Cazazo, ouch.  Did you change anything just now?  Any idea who owns /etc/bash_completion.d/cvs ? Can't see it on my system
[10:45] <[OS]Cazazo> I'm having problems with my video card...
[10:45] <[OS]Cazazo> I have removed the driver and rebooted
[10:45] <[OS]Cazazo> so is running on the default of the 12.04
[10:45] <Araneidae> Can you cat the file, or less it?
[10:46] <[OS]Cazazo> Araneidae: dunno... how to I do it?
[10:46] <[OS]Cazazo> how do I do it
[10:46] <Araneidae> You have a command line prompt?  What does `cat /etc/bash_completion.d/cvs` show?  (Return at the end)
[10:47] <[OS]Cazazo> Araneidae: cat: /etc/bash_completion.d/cvs: Input/output error
[10:47] <Araneidae> Ouch ouch ouch
[10:48] <[OS]Cazazo> Araneidae: indeed
[10:48] <Araneidae> Does `dmesg | tail` have anything exciting to say?
[10:49] <Araneidae> Also, what about `ls -l /etc/bash_completion.d/cvs` ?
[10:50] <[OS]Cazazo> Araneidae: -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 11734 Mar 31  2012 /etc/bash_completion.d/cvs
[10:50] <Araneidae> Fine.  So your shell is working and the file should be readable ... but it isn't
[10:52] <blazemore> [OS]Cazazo: sudo touch /forcefsck
[10:52] <blazemore> then reboot
[10:52] <Araneidae> This looks like broken system territory to me, though it's just possible there are some weird security flags on that file (clutching at straws).  I'd force an fsck on that volume and study dmesg and the logs with trepidation
[10:53] <blazemore> oh apparently you can just do sudo shutdown -rF now
[10:53] <Araneidae> Oh, cool, that's good to know
[10:53] <blazemore> and it'll force a fsck on the next reboot, that's pretty useful
[10:53] <[OS]Cazazo> kk will try no
[10:54] <[OS]Cazazo> now*
[10:54] <Araneidae> best of luck
[10:54] <[OS]Cazazo> ty lol
[10:54] <Araneidae> Get rid of the video driver for the time being...
[10:54] <[OS]Cazazo> blazemore: shutdown: time expected Try `shutdown --help' for more information.
[10:55] <Araneidae> [OS]Cazazo, you need the now on the end, it's part of the command
[10:55] <[OS]Cazazo> kk
[10:57] <LTB30> Hi. I have a big problem with ubuntu :( I installed it under Windows 7 yesterday and it worked very fine (Dual-Boot). Now I wanted to update to Ubuntu 12.10, that took over an hour. I closed the laptop and opened it after an hour, and it was just flickering black. i waited some time, but there was no HDD activity, so i killed it with the power switch. when i now boot ubuntu, everything works til i log in, then i just have a blue screen 
[10:57] <denkan> hello, how do I add a custom resulotion in xrandr? need to lower my refresh rate
[10:57] <LTB30> logout only works via ctrl+alt+del
[10:58] <[OS]Cazazo> same thing guys
[10:58] <reisio> denkan: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution#Adding_undetected_resolutions
[10:58] <cfhowlett> LTB30, ubuntu gives a blue screen?
[10:58] <denkan> reisio thx
[10:58] <[OS]Cazazo> bash: /etc/bash_completion.d/cvs: line 278: syntax error: unexpected end of file
[10:58] <LTB30> well, not a BSOD, but its just a pure blue screen
[10:59] <blazemore> LTB30: a blue screen? ctrl alt del? doesn't sound much like Ubuntu
[10:59] <LTB30> with nothing on it
[10:59] <cfhowlett> LTB30, pretty sure that's windows going blue ...
[10:59] <LTB30> well, i cant do anything once i logged in
[10:59] <cfhowlett> LTB30, logged in to ubuntu?
[10:59] <LTB30> nope, i choosed ubuntu and it loaded, i logged in under ubuntu and after that i just get a blue screen
[10:59] <cfhowlett> !nomodeset|LTB30, sounds like a nomodeset issue.  Best fix?  download the ISO and clean install
[10:59] <LTB30> currently im under windows because nothing is working under ubuntu
[11:00] <ActionPa1snip> [OS]Cazazo: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/8850924/cvs   here is my default file
[11:00] <ActionPa1snip> [OS]Cazazo: or run:  sudo apt-get --reinstall install bash-completion       to get the new file from packages
[11:01] <LTB30> can i use the windows installer for ubuntu to do that, ubottu?
[11:01] <cfhowlett> LTB30, oh wait.  this is a windows ubuntu install?  not recommended ....
[11:01] <LTB30> mh :/
[11:02] <LTB30> yeah, i thought so. but i had no USB stick and my DVD burner doesnt work anymore :/
[11:02] <cfhowlett> LTB30, could be that ubuntu fragged could be that windows fragged ubuntu.  That's why a windows/wubi install is not recommended.  wubi is for TESTING not for long term installation.
[11:02] <LTB30> oh, ok.
[11:03] <LTB30> well, i havent booted to windows in the meantime
[11:03] <cfhowlett> LTB30, dual boot is what you're after.  quite easy to set up win7/ubuntu dual.  get a USB.  They're cheap.  torrent the ISO ubuntu, make a stick and install.
[11:03] <LTB30> i think it wasnt a good idea to close the laptop while updating
[11:03] <cfhowlett> LTB30, I wasn't going to say anything, but ... yeah.
[11:03] <LTB30> will it just intall over the old ubuntu installation?
[11:04] <LTB30> yeah, i didnt think of that it may turn into sleep mod or something like that, turned it off on windows ;)
[11:04] <cfhowlett> LTB30, again, the windows/wubi method is NOT the way to go.   a proper dual boot creates an ubuntu partition wholly separate from windows.
[11:04] <cfhowlett> !dualboot|LTB30,
[11:04] <Gorgoroth> hi
[11:04] <Gorgoroth> i have a linux question
[11:04] <cfhowlett> Gorgoroth, greetings
[11:04] <Gorgoroth> 14. whichman uses ______ matching algorithm
[11:05] <Gorgoroth> a. Reinforcement Learning
[11:05] <Gorgoroth> b. Probabilistic
[11:05] <Gorgoroth> c. Fuzzy
[11:05] <Gorgoroth> d. Genetic
[11:05] <FloodBot1> Gorgoroth: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:05] <blazemore> Is this an assignment, Gorgoroth ?
[11:05] <DJones> Gorgoroth: Do you have an Ubuntu support question?
[11:05] <Gorgoroth> no
[11:05] <cfhowlett> Gorgoroth, this is not an ubuntu question ...
[11:05] <Gorgoroth> its a revision question for my test tomorrow
[11:05] <Gorgoroth> well it is
[11:05] <blazemore> It is an assignment obviously, why are you presenting us with multiple choices
[11:05] <gry> 'whichman'?
[11:05] <cfhowlett> !topic|Gorgoroth,
[11:05] <Gorgoroth> it is not an assignment
[11:05] <blazemore> !info whichman
[11:06] <Gorgoroth> it is part of a revision quiz for a test tomorrow
[11:06] <blazemore> Gorgoroth: I assume you already read the manpage?
[11:06] <Gorgoroth> what
[11:06] <gry> Gorgoroth: Read the book your tutor gave you, it will have the information on what to use to approach the test (such as, manpages).
[11:06] <blazemore> man whichman
[11:06] <Gorgoroth> just tell me the answer
[11:06] <DJones> Gorgoroth: We can't help you with revision/tests, this channel is for support issues
[11:06] <Gorgoroth> where should i go then
[11:06] <blazemore> Gorgoroth: You have a test on Linux tomorrow, and you don't know what a man page is?
[11:07] <Gorgoroth> i know the man command
[11:07] <blazemore> Gorgoroth: Start by reading "man whichman"
[11:07] <Gorgoroth> not the whichman command
[11:07] <LTB30> @ ubottu: will i have anything to keep in mind when i have already an ubuntu installation on my HDD?
[11:07] <gry> Gorgoroth: As I said, please, read the book your tutor gave you, it will have the information on what to use to approach the test (such as, manpages). I don't think asking for help in this way is wise in long-term.
[11:07] <cfhowlett> Gorgoroth, man whichman
[11:07] <Gorgoroth> just tell me ffs
[11:07] <cfhowlett> Gorgoroth, #linux
[11:07] <blazemore> Gorgoroth: We don't know
[11:07] <blazemore> Gorgoroth: We'd only look it up
[11:07] <Gorgoroth> its moderated
[11:07] <blazemore> Gorgoroth: Which you could do, so we resent you asking it here
[11:08] <gry> Gorgoroth: We don't all use the tool. We can read its manpage, but I suspect it's not quite a support issue, and we don't want to hurt your career. Learning is for making yourself familiar with the subject, not for getting good marks.
[11:08] <Gorgoroth> lol
[11:08] <Gorgoroth> telling me what a command is is hurting my career?
[11:08] <gry> Gorgoroth: Yes.
[11:09] <Gorgoroth> im not asking you to do the whole test for me
[11:09] <cfhowlett> Gorgoroth, dude.  System Admin's in training do their own research.
[11:09] <Gorgoroth> ooops
[11:09] <Gorgoroth> yeah
[11:09] <Gorgoroth> thats what i am doing here
[11:09] <Gorgoroth> researching
[11:09] <Gorgoroth> by asking uz
[11:09] <FloodBot1> Gorgoroth: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:09] <denkan> hm... when I add a new mode in xrandr using "xrandr --addmode 2560x1440" nothing happens. Am I doing wrong?
[11:10] <jrib> Gorgoroth: this isn't an ubuntu support question.  This channel is for ubuntu support questions, not homework help.  Let's move on.
[11:10] <gry> Gorgoroth: Us doing homework for you will inevitably make you less familiar with subject, and hurt your learning, hence hurt your career. You got kicked once, wih a 'This is not a channel for doing your homework/revision' message — this was a warning. To continue using the channel, please switch topic.
[11:10] <cfhowlett> Gorgoroth, no you're just being lazy.  Take it to #ubuntu-offtopic to continue the discussion.
[11:10] <Gorgoroth> sorrmy guess is the anwer is fuzzy
[11:10] <gry> Ok. Apologies accepted.
[11:10] <Gorgoroth> i already attempted to research
[11:11] <Gorgoroth> and came up with 'fuzzy'
[11:11] <Gorgoroth> am i correct?
[11:11] <gry> Ok. I can't say.
[11:11] <Shashankg> I installed ubuntu 13.04,  can't change screen birghtness( using brightness keys or brghtness and lock. It is set to maximum. Laptop-dell xps.
[11:11] <denkan> install synaptics?
[11:12] <blazemore> Hey Shashankg take a look at the top answer here http://askubuntu.com/questions/142017/brightness-keys-f4-and-f5-not-working-on-dell-xps-15-6-laptop
[11:14] <LTB30> can anyone tell me if i have to keep anything in mind when i want to install ubuntu over an already existing (but corrputed) ubuntu? any everything as dual-boot with windows 7?
[11:14] <LTB30> *and
[11:15] <cfhowlett> LTB30, install dual boot means you are NOT install to the corrupted wubi.  once you have your dual set up, delete the windows ubuntu and for forth and conquer
[11:15] <LTB30> how do i uninstall it?
[11:16] <LTB30> when i cannot enter ubuntu?
[11:16] <cfhowlett> LTB30, delete the partition via windows
[11:16] <LTB30> i cannot delete it because theres a lot of data on this partition
[11:16] <cfhowlett> LTB30, it'll show up as "wubi" or some such name.
[11:17] <cfhowlett> LTB30, ah well that's different.  and you want to save this stuff?
[11:17] <LTB30> can't i use uninstall wubi.exe under D:\ubuntu ?
[11:17] <dat789> hello! I'm running 12.04 and did an update yesterday. Today I noticed that I cannot scroll up/down using the middle scroll wheel on my mouse anymore. Rather, it will show me the history of last entered commands in the command line (like using the up/down arrows on keyboard). Why is this? How to correct it?
[11:17] <cfhowlett> LTB30, yep
[11:17] <LTB30> yeah, D is my pratition with all my data, C is all my programs
[11:17] <LTB30> ok, i think that would be the easiest way
[11:17] <LTB30> isnt it?
[11:17] <cfhowlett> LTB30, once you're dual booting ubuntu, you might be able to browse to your data and save it.
[11:18] <LTB30> i can access all files under windows
[11:18] <cfhowlett> LTB30, even you buntu data?
[11:19] <LTB30> im not sure, but a i only used it some minutes (i just pressed update and entered my WLAN key^^) so i can live with loosing that data
[11:19] <LTB30> btw, why does a ubuntu install last only 10 minutes, but couple of hours to update from 12.04 to 12.10?
[11:19] <dat789> hello! I'm running 12.04 and did an update yesterday. Today I noticed that I cannot scroll up/down using the middle scroll wheel on my mouse anymore. Rather, it will show me the history of last entered commands in the command line (like using the up/down arrows on keyboard). Why is this? How to correct it?
[11:20] <cfhowlett> LTB30, update is only working on the current version.  upgrade from 12.04 to 12.10 installs a whole new version.
[11:20] <LTB30> ehm
[11:20] <blazemore> LTB30: It has to download all the packages
[11:20] <LTB30> downloading took 10 minutes
[11:20] <Dr_Willis> Hmmm.
[11:21] <Dr_Willis> dat789:  it shows my commands  in my irc clients. but scrolls in my bash terminal.  Tried it with differnt terminal apps?
[11:21] <cfhowlett> LTB30, installing ubuntu generally takes around 20 - 45 minutes depending on your system specs.
[11:21] <LTB30> mh, i just ran uninstall-wubi.exe. took only 2 sec, but the folder is away
[11:21] <LTB30> i will reboot to see if its still aviabile to boot under. if its still aviable as boot-selection, ill rejoin this chanel.
[11:22] <LTB30> thank you very much for your kind help! :)
[11:22] <Dr_Willis> wubi should be uninstallable under the windows add/remove apps stuff.
[11:25] <shashankg_> blazemore: : I tried what the link said, but still nothing is happening, only one thing changed. when I booted, my brightness was set to low, once I pressed the birghtess key, I became max and I can't change it.
[11:26] <rebar> I dont get this I am trying to add my custom resulotion I have setup in xrandr using "--addmode <output> <name>" if my monitor is connected to "DVI-I-2" shouldn't it be like this then? "xrandr --addmode DVI-I-2 2560x1440_60.00" please help"
[11:27] <dat789> Dr_Willis: no, i haven't tried it with different terminal apps. I've only been using Ubuntu's terminal
[11:28] <shashankg_> blazemore: I tried what the link said, but still nothing is happening, only one thing changed. when I booted, my brightness was set to low, once I pressed the birghtess key, I became max and I can't change it.
[11:30] <dik> hi i am getting this error
[11:30] <dik> Use of uninitialized value $includedir in concatenation (.) or string at (eval 9) line 1.
[11:30] <dik> is there any expert who can solve this problem
[11:34] <somsip> dik: PHP?
[11:34] <Xentinel> I'm trying to use a bluetooth mouse with Ubuntu, but after like five minutes of inactivity, the mouse powers down and then it won't reconnect
[11:37] <dik> i am building mod_selinux
[11:37] <rebar> -
[11:37] <shashankg_> I installed ubuntu 13.04, I can't change my screen brightness, I tried the  top answe here http://askubuntu.com/questions/142017/brightness-keys-f4-and-f5-not-working-on-dell-xps-15-6-laptop. still nothing happened.
[11:37] <somsip> !details | dik
[11:38] <rebar> I dont get this I am trying to add my custom resulotion I have setup in xrandr using "--addmode <output> <name>" if my monitor is connected to "DVI-I-2" shouldn't it be like this then? "xrandr --addmode DVI-I-2 2560x1440_60.00"
[11:41] <dik>  here i am compiling mod_selinux for ubuntu from source code.
[11:41] <dik> when i am doing 'make' at the first line of output it is comming
[11:41] <somsip> dik: compiling from source isn't really supported here. Why are you not installing from the repo?
[11:42] <Kusuma_suresh> HI
[11:42] <Kusuma_suresh> How to renewal ssl certificate on apache server
[11:42] <Kusuma_suresh> downloaded all the three certificates from godaddy
[11:43] <Kusuma_suresh> and replaced it on server
[11:43] <Kusuma_suresh> and restarted the apache
[11:43] <Kusuma_suresh> but not working
[11:43] <Kusuma_suresh> it is showing old certificate only
[11:43] <Kusuma_suresh> please help to resolve the isse
[11:43] <MonkeyDust> Kusuma_suresh  spare the enter key, please
[11:43] <ActionPa1snip> Kusuma_suresh: you need to generate the first bit first, the code you have is the old one. Or did you generate the new code on the godaddy website?
[11:44] <larsjaa> rebar: have you tried to quote
[11:44] <dik> it is not available in repo
[11:44] <somsip> dik: then you need to contact whoever supplies the source for helpo
[11:45] <ActionPa1snip> Kusuma_suresh: if you just go to the site and grab the code it will be the old code, you need to generate the first part on your server then put it in the godaddy service
[11:45] <dik> i downloaded it from fedora site
[11:46] <somsip> dik: I doubt you will get much help here about it, wherever you got it from
[11:48] <Kusuma_suresh> ActionPa1snip: actually our team has send old key to godaddy
[11:48] <Kusuma_suresh> then they provided certificates
[11:48] <Kusuma_suresh> those certificates we copied into server and restarted the service
[11:51] <ActionPa1snip> Kusuma_suresh: the key needs regenerating each time you renew
[11:52] <Kusuma_suresh> may i know what is the command to regenerate the key
[11:52] <ActionPa1snip> Kusuma_suresh: there are guides online. I would just be websearching as you can
[11:53] <Kusuma_suresh> ok thanks
[11:54] <aric_> hi
[11:54] <ltb30> hi there, once again ;) i have a question: i downloaded ubuntu 13.04 as ISO file, burned it with Nero as Image and inserted it into my computer, but it didnt booted (although the optical drive was selected as first boot). But the DVD boots under another PC. Any advice (except using USB for the lack of a USB stick)?
[11:54] <aric_> pp
[11:55] <ActionPa1snip> ltb30: what happens when you try to boot the CD?
[11:55] <ltb30> it says "insert a proper boot media and press a key"
[11:56] <ActionPa1snip> ltb30: do other CDs boot ok?
[11:56] <aric_> using your burned CD ,try to boot another computer
[11:56] <ltb30> after the optical drive worked a bit
[11:56] <ltb30> the DVD is working under another PC
[11:56] <ltb30> im not sure if other boot cds worked. i know that there was a time when i could boot ubuntu from DVD
[11:56] <aric_> clean your optical header
[11:57] <ltb30> already done that
[11:57] <aric_> maybe ur computer is laptop
[11:57] <ltb30> yes it is :P
[11:57] <ltb30> oh, i see. i don't see anything under windows at all
[11:58] <ltb30> maybe my optical drive has probles with DVD+R
[11:58] <aric_> ur DVD driver maybe old and favor some disks
[11:59] <aric_> some of the disk can't work properly
[12:01] <aric_> copy ur ubuntu's iso file to hard disk, try to install it from hard disk. boot live cd by grub
[12:02] <Dr_Willis> you can set up a USB flash to boot the iso file using grub2 ;)
[12:02] <Dr_Willis> also what files are on the cd?
[12:03] <ltb30> ubuntu 13.04
[12:03] <ltb30> well, i asked my neighbour if he had a USB stick, happily he had 2 GB stick. i now will create a bootable USB stick, that works
[12:03] <Dr_Willis> windows should be showing quite a bit of differnt files on the cd.
[12:03] <ltb30> thank you anyway for your help, really appreciate it :)
[12:03] <Dr_Willis> pendrivelinux web site has tools for making usb flash drives to install from
[12:05] <ltb30> i already did that couple of times, works really nice
[12:06] <ltb30> bye :)
[12:20] <ltb30> hi. so i have now ubuntu on a usb stick and i want to install it. but im unsure about the partitions
[12:21] <ltb30> ubuntu asks if it should "hang out" the current partition on my HDD
[12:22] <ltb30> i already have 2 partitions on my HDD. C:\, where windows is installed, and D:\, where i just have Data
[12:22] <ActionPa1snip> ltb30: do you want to dual boot?
[12:22] <ltb30> when i used wubi, it just installed it on D:\ without any further questions
[12:22] <ltb30> yes
[12:22] <ActionPa1snip> ltb30: what version of Windows are you using?
[12:22] <ltb30> windows 7
[12:23] <ActionPa1snip> ltb30: boot to Windows7 and resize one of the partitions. Make unpartitioned space of 10Gb or more
[12:23] <ActionPa1snip> ltb30: you can then boot to the install media and install to the free space
[12:23] <ltb30> why cant it work like on the wubi installation?
[12:24] <ActionPa1snip> ltb30: because wubi is garbage
[12:24] <fadim> can it load inside win?
[12:24] <ltb30> its a lot easier :D
[12:24] <fadim> win8
[12:24] <ActionPa1snip> fadim: its not recommended in Win8 if memory serves
[12:25] <ActionPa1snip> ltb30: yes but its super fragile and not ideal at all
[12:25] <ltb30> what exactly makes wubi garbage? i was pretty satisfied with the installation
[12:25] <ltb30> i primary want to use ubuntu to try out gazelle (the tracker software)
[12:25] <fadim> have you got rid of windows by now?
[12:25] <ActionPa1snip> ltb30: as a try-before-you-buy for a few weeks, its great but it is not a long term solution
[12:25] <ActionPa1snip> ltb30: if it breaks its an ass to fix
[12:25] <ActionPa1snip> ltb30: it's stored in your NTFS so will be directly affected by the crapness of NTFS
[12:26] <BluesKaj> ltb30, why not use a VM /VB
[12:26] <ActionPa1snip> ltb30: people (for some unknown reason) still don't backup so when it does break they lose acces to their "important" data
[12:26] <fadim> and i guess that for every windows program there is at least one linux equilevant, right?
[12:26] <ltb30> ok. so now i switch back to windows, will create a new partition with about 10GB and then boot back into ubuntu usb stick?
[12:26] <ActionPa1snip> fadim: in most cases yes
[12:27] <BluesKaj> fadim, yup ,and more
[12:27] <fadim> ok then
[12:27] <ltb30> fadim: not if youre a musician :/
[12:28] <fadim> @ltb30, why so?
[12:29] <ltb30> i heard that theres no VST support under Linux
[12:29] <ltb30> and theres no proper DAW for linux
[12:29] <fadim> i see...
[12:30] <Hanumaan> trying to install libhunspell-1.2-0 but giving this error : http://paste.ubuntu.com/6013874/ any solution ?
[12:31] <MonkeyDust> Hanumaan  try to find what other program refers to it
[12:31] <Hanumaan> MonkeyDust, how to find that ?
[12:31] <knightzx> Hanumaan: there is pkg called libhunspell-1.3-0
[12:31] <BluesKaj> acronym happy , but not linux happy
[12:32] <MonkeyDust> Hanumaan  try 1.3-0
[12:32] <Hanumaan> MonkeyDust, 1.3-0 is already installed but the python program which I have is only asking 1.2-0 version ..
[12:34] <MonkeyDust> Hanumaan  try looking for a newer version, then, or modify the python program to make it work with 1.3-0
[12:35] <DarkLobster> What's a clever way of giving others admin rights for /var/www(and all subfolders)? (Members of the group that owns the folder) I.e a group admin? They should also be able to use service, to restart the webserver and such. Can it be done with the sudoers file?
[12:36] <kevlar555> Buenos dias!
[12:37] <neopsyche> Hi there
[12:37] <neopsyche> Anyone know how to remove wireless backports and revert to old drivers?
[12:37] <Araneidae> I'm just about to `apt-get purge network-manager`, but apt-get says it'll also remove lubuntu-desktop*.  How much does this matter?
[12:37] <Dr_Willis> !ppa-purge
[12:37] <Dr_Willis> Araneidae:  its just a meta-package - wont matter much at all
[12:37] <OerHeks> DarkLobster, make them member of www-data
[12:37] <ActionPa1snip> Araneidae: its a meta-package so doesnt matter
[12:37] <Araneidae> Ok.  It won't affect upgrades?
[12:38] <ActionPa1snip> Araneidae: you can reinstall the metapackage if you desire
[12:38] <Dr_Willis> normal package updates No..
[12:38] <Dr_Willis> RELEASE upgrades.. perhaps.
[12:38] <Dr_Willis> but doubtfull.
[12:38] <DarkLobster> OerHeks: Yes, I've done that. But they still can't f.ex chmod a file that's owned by another member of www-data
[12:39] <Araneidae> Um.  Oh well.  The purge seems to have left a couple of directories behind, guess I've some manual tidying and rebooting to do...
[12:43] <burg> hello. i am using ubuntu server 12.04 and my ethernet card is not recognized (missing driver, i guess). i managed to connect to internet with a wireless board, now how do i install the missing driver?
[12:43] <gordonjcp> burg: what is the ethernet card?
[12:44] <gordonjcp> burg: unless it's something deeply weird, it'll have a driver
[12:44] <rg_chi> Good morning
[12:45] <burg> gordonjcp, http://codepad.org/48EmpChl
[12:45] <burg> gordonjcp, it is the onboard card from MSI B75A-G43 mother board
[12:46] <BluesKaj> atheros ethernet , that's a bit rare
[12:46] <compdoc> atheros is not that rare
[12:47] <gordonjcp> ye
[12:47] <gordonjcp> burg: try googling for that line VID/PID pair
[12:48] <burg> gordonjcp, 1969:e091 ?
[12:48] <gordonjcp> ye
[12:48] <gordonjcp> give that a shot, and see if it shows up anything on the forums
[12:48] <neopsyche> Can anyone help me get my wireless working?
[12:51] <BluesKaj> compdoc, maybe not for wifi , but atheros ethernet I haven't seen before
[12:52] <blazemore> !anyone
[12:52] <compdoc> its Qualcomm
[12:53] <Araneidae> Whoops, rebooted wrong machine!
[12:54] <Araneidae> How do I discover which name servers resolveconf is using?  I seem to have broken my DNS config
[12:54] <somsip> Araneidae: dig {server} will tell you what is being used
[12:55] <CentRookie> hi
[12:55] <Araneidae> somsip, `dig` just says SERVER: 127.0.0.1#53(127.0.0.1)
[12:55] <CentRookie> hope you guys are doing fine
[12:56] <CentRookie> something really funny happened
[12:56] <Araneidae> That's what resolvconf has plonked in /etc/resolv.conf, but looks like that doesn't go anywhere...
[12:56] <mosez> maybe somebody here can answer my question. whaich debian_revision version string gets updated in case of a dist upgrade? ~mosez+precise1/~mosez+raring1 or ~mosez+ubuntu1204/~mosez+1304
[12:56] <somsip> Araneidae: so you're running a DNS server rather than using an external one?
[12:56] <BluesKaj> burg, http://askubuntu.com/questions/165192/how-do-i-install-drivers-for-the-atheros-ar8161-ethernet-controller
[12:56] <ActionPa1snip> Araneidae: nmcli -f IP4 dev list
[12:56] <Araneidae> somsip, well, I'm actually trying to set up dnsmasq, but resolvconf is getting in my way!
[12:56] <Araneidae> (or, at least, confusing the hell out of me)
[12:57] <CentRookie> I have this old computer, AMD 2ghz, single core, and thought "Why not installing ubunto in that one? It supports NTFS so all my old files from my windows time, like pictures and videos will remain
[12:57] <somsip> Araneidae: ah - out of my league then. My dig resolves to my router, or whoever I set dnsservers to when I was running bind. I shall leave it with you
[12:57] <gordonjcp> CentRookie: yes, as long as you don't wipe the old hard disk ;-)
[12:57] <BluesKaj> Araneidae, are you still using network manager
[12:57] <gordonjcp> CentRookie: buy a new hard disk for it
[12:57] <Araneidae> ActionPa1snip, I'm in a catch 22 right now: don't have nmcli, and until I have DNS back again I can't install anything!
[12:57] <ActionPa1snip> CentRookie: if you tell Ubuntu to use the whole space you will lose the data, if you dual boot then you can access the data on the NTFS partition
[12:57] <Araneidae> BluesKaj, no, it's dead and buried
[12:57] <CentRookie> So I downloaded ubuntu, booted it from a thumbdrive, chose the windows partition, which was on DISK 1, and divided into Partition C and D
[12:58] <CentRookie> so ofc I chose partition C
[12:58] <Araneidae> ... so presumably I've not put the right DNS entries where they belong
[12:58] <ActionPa1snip> CentRookie: I run Ubuntu on a lot less than a 2Ghz CPU
[12:58] <CentRookie> and after installing, it wiped my whole computer clean
[12:58] <CentRookie> like a fresh baby butt
[12:58] <ActionPa1snip> CentRookie: well yeah, you told it to use the entire drive for Ubuntu...what did you expect?
[12:58] <CentRookie> turned out, partition C was in reality DISK 1
[12:58] <Araneidae> Ah.  nmcli was part of network-manager -- that's why it's gone
[12:59] <CentRookie> so what am i gonna do now?
[12:59] <MonkeyDust> CentRookie  linux uses /dev/sda1 sda2 etc, not C D E - most probably Windows was on C and you erased that
[12:59] <ActionPa1snip> CentRookie: restore data from backup
[12:59] <burg> BluesKaj, i get errors on make
[12:59] <Araneidae> So... I've dug a stupid little ditch for myself.  Where does resolvconf find the master DNS servers?!
[12:59] <BluesKaj> ok Araneidae , check your /etc/hosts file , then the /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/base settings for nameservers if you're using a dns server
[12:59] <somsip> Araneidae: so you have an entry in /etc/resolve.conf for nameserver 127.0.0.1? Have you amended anything in /etc/network/interfaces recently?
[13:00] <CentRookie> well, we all make errors, just is there a way to turn it around?
[13:00] <ActionPa1snip> Araneidae: you can use  /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/head    to make those DNS servers supercede any you gain via DHCP
[13:00] <Araneidae> somsip, yes, I've added an explicit entry for eth0 in /etc/network/interfaces so I could ditch network-manager for a static ip.
[13:00] <nachoLog> hey i am trying to run unetbootin but it keeps asking me for a administrative password to run it and something about "rootcheck=no".. i dont even have an administrative password i think
[13:00] <Araneidae> Thanks all, looks like /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/head is the answer :)
[13:00] <gordonjcp> CentRookie: yes, actually
[13:00] <marianne> Hi again... ordered all new hardware for a new build, question -- I'm going to be installing 12.04, which is what I am currently running... is it possible to just drop in the old HD and have it boot up?
[13:00] <BluesKaj> burg, make sure you have build-essential installed
[13:00] <gordonjcp> CentRookie: switch the thing off
[13:01] <ActionPa1snip> CentRookie: yes, your backups wil lhave your important data. you can restore that data to your user's home and use Ubuntu on its own
[13:01] <CentRookie> funny
[13:01] <gordonjcp> CentRookie: don't even bother to shut down, just switch it off
[13:01] <gordonjcp> CentRookie: have you got backups?
[13:01] <CentRookie> mm they didnt had mission critical data
[13:01] <Araneidae> Bah.  I preferred the older days when configs where not scattered in thousands of files :(
[13:01] <neopsyche> anyone help with wireless?
[13:01] <ActionPa1snip> CentRookie: then who cares :)
[13:01] <burg> BluesKaj, it is installed
[13:01] <CentRookie> just lots of older work files
[13:01] <ActionPa1snip> neopsyche: details please
[13:01] <somsip> Araneidae: I added 'dns-nameservers 192.168.1.1' to the eth0 entry in /etc/network/interfaces, but that's my router. I guess something like 8.8.8.8 could get you working again
[13:01] <burg> i am trying right now the solution from http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2008332
[13:01] <CentRookie> but they have sentimental value..
[13:02] <CentRookie> in windows i would just start a partition recovery session with some tool
[13:02] <gordonjcp> CentRookie: yup
[13:02] <CentRookie> and let it run for a day or so and get most data back
[13:02] <Araneidae> somsip, thanks, didn't know about the dns-nameservers entry.  Will try that
[13:02] <neopsyche> ActionPalsnip: I had some issues with wireless disconnecting.. I installed a backport but now OS does not see wireless card and wifi missing from networking
[13:02] <CentRookie> how is it with linux overformatted disks
[13:02] <gordonjcp> CentRookie: okay, you can use testdisk to search through and find the remaining bits of NTFS filesystem
[13:02] <CentRookie> any chance to part of the data back?
[13:02] <gordonjcp> CentRookie: you've installed Linux over it, so a bunch of it will be overwritten
[13:02] <CentRookie> yeah, but from what i see linux is only 1gb
[13:02] <gordonjcp> CentRookie: have you got a large external USB drive, or something siimilar?
[13:02] <CentRookie> and the full disk is 200gb
[13:03] <neopsyche> ActionPalsnip:   Any thoughts
[13:03] <gordonjcp> CentRookie: take an image of the full disk
[13:03] <CentRookie> and i store all important stuff on partition D
[13:03] <somsip> Araneidae: AIUI, /etc/resolve.conf rebuilds from entries in various places, including that setting in interfaces
[13:03] <gordonjcp> CentRookie: work on the image, not the disk
[13:03] <CentRookie> while C has windows with the first 30GB
[13:03] <Araneidae> somsip, just the ticket for me :)
[13:03] <Araneidae> Any idea where it gets the default domain search path from?
[13:03] <CentRookie> yes, but the disk is like 200gb, would have to export it to an external disk i think
[13:04] <somsip> Araneidae: No. Someone asked that a while ago but I don't recall.
[13:04] <CentRookie> so your recommendation is to export the whole disk content as an image to an external harddrive
[13:04] <neopsyche> www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/projects/backports/2013/06/18/backports-20130618.tar.bz2
[13:04] <BluesKaj> ActionPa1snip, I had an issue with /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/base yesterday , it wouldn't write to /etc/resolv.conf , so i used  /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/head , instead , and that fixed the problem , ..is  this weird or a regression ?
[13:05] <CentRookie> and from there run some file recovery program?
[13:05] <CentRookie> the thing is, i would try to boot it up with a thumbdrive and windows portable and run recovery tools, if the file system was ntfs
[13:06] <gordonjcp> CentRookie: well, testdisk will find what's left of the NTFS partitions
[13:06] <CentRookie> do you know of a file recovery tool that works with ubunto filesystem?
[13:06] <gordonjcp> CentRookie: it's better to work on a copy of the disk, instead of the "real" disk
[13:06] <gordonjcp> CentRookie: I have told you about four times, testdisk
[13:06] <CentRookie> so i just run testdisk in terminal?
[13:06] <ikonia> CentRookie: stop now
[13:06] <ikonia> CentRookie: no, you don't
[13:07] <ikonia> CentRookie: you research the process before touching anything
[13:07] <burg> BluesKaj, but i get an error on make on that approach too
[13:07] <ikonia> CentRookie: and that means researching it and applying it your situation - not asking "how how how" in this channel
[13:07] <CentRookie> alrighty
[13:07] <Araneidae> Actually, I'm getting REFUSED when trying to do a DNS query, which suggests something is misconfigured somewhere else
[13:07] <Araneidae> `host bbc.co.uk` returns: Host bbc.co.uk not found: 5(REFUSED)
[13:07] <ikonia> Araneidae: fix your dns
[13:08] <Araneidae> Drat.  It was working half an hour ago
[13:08] <Araneidae> ikonia, guess what I'm working on right now
[13:08] <neopsyche> backport messed my wireless driver
[13:08] <neopsyche> how to fix?
[13:08] <neopsyche> ikonia: can you help with wireless issue?
[13:09] <ikonia> neopsyche: sorry no
[13:09] <Araneidae> Oooh: dnsmasq died
[13:09] <BluesKaj> burg, maybe this will work , http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=150&t=138931
[13:09] <neopsyche> ikonia: I am running 13:04 on samsung S5 ultrabook installed www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/projects/backports/2013/06/18/backports-20130618.tar.bz2  when wireless was giving problems (maby a mistake) now wireless card has disappeared.
[13:09] <CentRookie> noob question: can i work with deb repos on ubuntu?
[13:10] <reisio> CentRookie: technically, but I doubt it'd end well
[13:10] <reisio> at least in general
[13:10] <gordonjcp> CentRookie: kind of, but it's not recommended
[13:10] <CentRookie> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=387922
[13:10] <CentRookie> cuz this guy uses deb
[13:10] <CentRookie> for ubuntu
[13:11] <r0bust> Hello my friends!
[13:11] <MonkeyDust> CentRookie  don't mix distros
[13:11] <CentRookie> ah
[13:12] <BluesKaj> CentRookie, if you want debian repos , run debian
[13:13] <BluesKaj> otherwise you'll have grief in the long run
[13:13] <CentRookie> one question, this happenend 2 years ago, any chance the data can still be found? ^^
[13:14] <CentRookie> i havent touched the system for 2 years
[13:14] <ikonia> CentRookie: if you've not touched the system - then the data won't be any more corrupted,
[13:14] <CentRookie> ok, lets hope i get my baby files back
[13:15] <CentRookie> and my old work files
[13:15] <CentRookie> i think they should put a warning up in ubuntu installer: warning, please understand that this is not windows. you will totally wipe out the whole disk, not just a partition.
[13:16] <reisio> CentRookie: same risk installing Windows
[13:16] <CentRookie> not really
[13:16] <reisio> yes really :)
[13:16] <reisio> if you want a second backup, you could dd or ddrescue the disk to another backup
[13:16] <juan_> quien habla en español
[13:16] <Pici> !es | juan_
[13:16] <CentRookie> if you are a linux user switching to windows, then you come with another background and knowledge
[13:16] <CentRookie> but windows is a beginners system
[13:17] <reisio> CentRookie: both installers give you the option to accidentally or purposefully destroy partitions
[13:17] <juan_> gracias obottu
[13:17] <reisio> CentRookie: eh, you're comparing a preinstalled OS with one that isn't, which is pointless
[13:17] <juan_> #ubuntu-es
[13:17] <CentRookie> well the windows installer is pretty straight forward, i have never mixed up partitions
[13:17] <CentRookie> in linux, they dont even show disk manufacturer
[13:18] <CentRookie> so you have to guess which has been mounted as first disk
[13:18] <reisio> I don't recall seeing disk manufacturer during Windows install :)
[13:19] <CentRookie> just wish they d make it simpler :(
[13:19] <reisio> http://is.gd/xeliju http://is.gd/gipowo
[13:19] <reisio> yeah, it could be simpler :)
[13:19] <reisio> getting a new disk makes multiple OSes simpler
[13:20] <CentRookie> there, you see disk 0 and partition 1 or 2
[13:20] <reisio> and you're basically always going to need the extra storage at one point
[13:20] <CentRookie> cant remember what they called it in ubuntu
[13:20] <reisio> CentRookie: sdA and sdB, possibly
[13:20] <CentRookie> well, i was maxing out already
[13:20] <CentRookie> already had 3 disks in system
[13:21] <CentRookie> 6 partition total, so it was a bit complicated
[13:21] <CentRookie> sdA is a disk or a partition?
[13:21] <reisio> a disk, a device
[13:22] <reisio> the first one
[13:22] <CentRookie> i remember that ubuntu recognized the partition in size correctly
[13:22] <CentRookie> and i choose the first disk and first partition
[13:22] <CentRookie> how come it ended up wiping the whole disk?
[13:23] <reisio> my guess is you instructed it... imperfectly :)
[13:23] <neopsyche> If I upgrade to 13.10 will it overwrite my old wireless drivers and possibly fix issue with wireless?
[13:23] <reisio> sort of pointless to conjecture so long after the fact
[13:23] <CentRookie> hmm guess so
[13:23] <reisio> neopsyche: possibly, but I would find out for sure first ;)
[13:23] <CentRookie> it wasnt me who did it
[13:23] <compdoc> neopsyche, try booting the live dvd
[13:23] <CentRookie> as my defense
[13:24] <CentRookie> but it was my data -_-
[13:24] <CentRookie> so i should have done it myself
[13:24] <reisio> CentRookie: yeah :/
[13:24] <CentRookie> i heard all the wonders and feedback about ubuntu being fast on older machines
[13:24] <CentRookie> and how easy to set up it was
[13:24] <Antar> Hi
[13:24] <cloneG> CentRookie it is
[13:24] <reisio> and you got someone else to set it up? :p
[13:24] <reisio> Antar: hi
[13:24] <CentRookie> and when i installed the newest ubuntu image, it didnt even come with a sidebar navigation
[13:25] <CentRookie> i literally had only terminal
[13:25] <cloneG> CentRookie try lubuntu
[13:25] <CentRookie> and wallpaper
[13:25] <MonkeyDust> CentRookie  don't hit the enter key too often, it's getting a headache
[13:25] <Antar> What is the best way to read a specific environment variable ?
[13:26] <CentRookie> went to google and found out the newest image has this bug, so i redownloaded an older version of ubuntu image. this time it had a sidebar, but my files were gone XD
[13:26] <reisio> Antar: to do what?
[13:27] <brahman> Hi, I am trying to setup mod_proxy on ubuntu 12.04, I have enabled proxy,proxy_http,proxy_html but still get this error: http://pastebin.com/FQ6Bw9GV
[13:27] <Antar> Read my question again
[13:27] <msbrown> Antar: in a script, in an application, from the command line, what? it matters.
[13:28] <Antar> CLI
[13:28] <Pici> Antar: echo?
[13:28] <msbrown> Antar: simplest: $env
[13:28] <Dr_Willis> echo $env
[13:28] <Dr_Willis> ;)
[13:28] <Antar> mm good
[13:28] <ltb30> hi. i just wanted to install ubuntu 13.04 via USB-Stick with Dual-Boot. I created a new partition/free space (10 GB) under windows. After the Ubuntu installation it said it had to restart, but the computer kept black and didnt reboot, so i turned it off after about 5 minutes. After booting, it jumps automatically to Windows
[13:28] <msbrown> jsut 'env' no quotes on the prompt
[13:28] <Dr_Willis> might be time to hit up some bash scripting guides
[13:28] <ltb30> so, what went wrong?
[13:29] <Antar> Dr_Willis what about env | grep variable
[13:29] <Dr_Willis> Antar:  why not just use $env ?
[13:29] <honestly> ltb30: you probably didn't install the bootloader in the right place
[13:29] <msbrown> Antar: example: 'echo $PWD'
[13:29] <Dr_Willis> echo $HOME
[13:29] <Antar> Dr_Willis it is good to get var = value
[13:30] <Dr_Willis> Antar:  i cant see why it would be good..  but do what you want
[13:30] <ltb30> http://i.imgur.com/1NFrlWF.jpg
[13:30] <Araneidae> Grrrrr.  I have finally got dnsmasq+resolvconf working together, and it's a mess.  Basically I've had to tell dnsmasq to ignore resolvconf, seems rather a waste of everybody's time
[13:30] <ltb30> honestly: but i dont know why, i had no option to choose when i said i want to have dual boot
[13:31] <ltb30> it directly jumped to where i live
[13:31] <Antar> Dr_Willis what are the real life benefits of piping ?
[13:31] <Dr_Willis> ltb30:  there should have been a questing asking  install alongside, or 'somthing else' you wanted 'somthing else'
[13:31] <reisio> ltb30: boot up your install image and do 'try' and come back
[13:31] <Dr_Willis> ltb30:  and you would need to setup the partitions as you want.
[13:32] <msbrown> ltb30: it's been a while since I've installed dual-boot, but I don't see a boot partition in that jpg
[13:32] <Dr_Willis> Antar:  sounds like you may want to check into the #BASH channel for bash pros/cons/standard practice
[13:32] <ltb30> ok, ill reboot into usb-stick try mode
[13:32] <Antar> mm ok thank you
[13:32] <msbrown> ltb30: (and I don't read German, sorry, just looking at partitions)
[13:33] <brahman> Hi, I am trying to setup mod_proxy on ubuntu 12.04, I have enabled proxy,proxy_http,proxy_html but still get this error: http://pastebin.com/FQ6Bw9GV
[13:33] <reisio> Antar: how about just using $VAR, I mean... it's already a variable
[13:33] <CentRookie> cloneg, thanks, will try lubuntu, but maybe on a new machine, dont want to corrupt the current system. but how is the hardware support nowadys for ubuntu / lubuntu, I have a wireless pci card that runs on ubuntu, seeing how lubuntu seems to be a bit of stripped down ubuntu, i guess it will also run on lubuntu?
[13:33] <Antar> reisio i understand you
[13:33] <ironhalik> can I identify all available SATA ports on a system level?
[13:37] <ltb30> back agaib
[13:37] <ltb30> *again
[13:37] <ltb30> so, what to do?
[13:38] <cloneG> CentRookie using lubuntu on an old laptop also with wireless smoothly, I needed to install lubuntu 11.10 because it was the only non-pae distro I found. Upgrading it was easy and pretty quick and direct to ubuntu 12.04
[13:39] <ltb30> wouldn't it be easier to format the partition where ubuntu was installed and install ubuntu again?
[13:41] <cloneG> which would be the bash line to unmount an external hd?
[13:41] <MonkeyDust> cloneG  sudo umount /dev/sdXX
[13:41] <reisio> cloneG: umount /path/to/where/it/is/mounted
[13:41] <reisio> with sudo :)
[13:41] <reisio> 'mount' will tell you where
[13:41] <f7hF11> Newb question: How can one use a program that is not included in the repositories? Like this one: https://mat.boum.org/
[13:42] <MrSassyPants> what's the local.start / local.stop way in ubuntu again?
[13:42] <MrSassyPants> I forgot.
[13:42] <reisio> f7hF11: well, that one is in the repos :)
[13:42] <Nach0z> f7hF11: typically you download either a .deb file (which you install with dpkg) or you download the .tar.gz source, unzip, ./configure, 'make install'
[13:42] <Sivik> f7hF11, you would have to install it via source or find a repo that has it in it and add that repos and install it that way
[13:43] <hacker_> hello
[13:43] <f7hF11> reisio: It is? I must have overlooked it then. Thanks. :)
[13:43] <reisio> MrSassyPants: /etc/init.d/rc.local ?
[13:43] <f7hF11> Nach0z, Sivik: Thanks for the info. :)
[13:43] <reisio> f7hF11: it's in 'universe'
[13:43] <reisio> if that matters
[13:43] <reisio> hacker_: hi
[13:44] <hacker_> i need help
[13:44] <iceroot_> f7hF11: http://packages.qa.debian.org/m/mat.html
[13:44] <MrSassyPants> reisio, that's an init script executing /etc/rc.local
[13:44] <iceroot_> f7hF11: http://packages.ubuntu.com/raring/mat
[13:44] <Sivik> hacker_, just ask your question and someone will try and help you
[13:44] <f7hF11> iceroot_: Thanks!
[13:44] <MrSassyPants> reisio, which makes /etc/rc.local the actual startstop
[13:44] <iceroot_> f7hF11: so why you say its not in the repos?
[13:44] <cloneG> MonkeyDust &  reisio: what all dev contets are? I cant find my external_hard_drive there, anyway: unmount command not found
[13:45] <reisio> MrSassyPants: :)
[13:45] <MrSassyPants> reisio, thx
[13:45] <reisio> cloneG: gotta use sudo
[13:45] <f7hF11> iceroot_: I must have mistyped it when I was searching for it, I guess. :)
[13:45] <reisio> cloneG: /sbin/blkid
[13:45] <iceroot_> f7hF11: sudo apt-get install mat
[13:45] <iceroot_> f7hF11: ok :)
[13:47] <neopsyche> compdoc: im on an ultrabook with no dvd drive
[13:47] <cloneG> reisio: I did use sudo, and what with blkid?
[13:47] <reisio> cloneG: sudo umount /path/to/mount
[13:48] <reisio> cloneG: /sbin/blkid tells you where, as well as 'mount'
[13:48] <michael1984> Hello Folks
[13:48] <brahman> Hi, I am trying to setup mod_proxy on ubuntu 12.04, I have enabled proxy,proxy_http,proxy_html but still get this error: http://pastebin.com/FQ6Bw9GV
[13:48] <michael1984> how are you?
[13:48] <reisio> 'lo
[13:48] <michael1984> i was here yesterday, cause i have problems with my wireless lan
[13:49] <neopsyche> ok. ubuntu says 'no release available' but it says i am using 13.04.. last i checked 13.10 was available?
[13:49] <michael1984> anyone here who has know how with intel centrino wireless cards?
[13:50] <cloneG> reisio: anyway unmount tells me command not found
[13:51] <cloneG> reisio: sudo: unmount: command not found
[13:52] <Pici> cloneG: its umount not unmount
[13:52] <cloneG> oh
[13:52] <cloneG> thanks
[13:52] <cloneG> :-)
[13:55] <reisio> cloneG: Unix ancestors couldn't be bothered to type _seven_ letters in a row :p
[13:57] <michael1984> usr13,  are you there?
[13:57] <BluesKaj> reisio, yeah in this texting happy world umount could be misinterpreted as youmount :)
[13:57] <reisio> it's ironic that predictive text works better with real, full English words :p
[13:57] <ActionPa1snip> reisio: it makes tab completion easier
[13:58] <reisio> ActionPa1snip: umount?
[13:58] <reisio> I guess it does, but I don't know how much it would've when it was created
[13:58] <ActionPa1snip> reisio: yes, lots of english words start with 'un' so '[um]ount' will tab complete nicely
[13:59] <reisio> well it's only vs other commands
[13:59] <cloneG> editing fstab in the <type> field is it allowed to add nfts?
[13:59] <reisio> cloneG: make it ntfs-3g
[14:00] <cloneG> using vfat but the hd it is not
[14:00] <cloneG> ntfs-3g?
[14:00] <ltb30> hi. once again its me. i want to install ubuntu beneath windows 7 and created a free 10gb of free space in the windows partition manager. what to do now?
[14:00] <cloneG> I dont want to reformat the hd!!!!
[14:00] <reisio> so don't reformat it
[14:00] <reisio> ltb30: so whatever you might have installed already is gone now?
[14:01] <cloneG> so how do I know what do I need to put in the fstab <type> field?
[14:01] <ltb30> i deleted the partition with the ubuntu installation
[14:01] <blazemore> ltb30: Boot from the Ubuntu LiveCD/USB and install into the free space
[14:01] <ltb30> im right now in the live cd and the install dialog
[14:01] <reisio> cloneG: well I just told you, if it's ntfs :)
[14:01] <ltb30> i choosed something other when he asked what i wanted to do
[14:01] <reisio> cloneG: ntfs should work, too, but ntfs-3g is more mature/popular
[14:01] <ltb30> but im not sure what to do now
[14:02] <blazemore> ltb30: was there an option to automatically use the free space?
[14:02] <cloneG> reisio oh mature sure
[14:02] <ltb30> wait, ill upload a screenshot
[14:02] <zykotick9> ActionPa1snip: BUT, there is umask, AND unm doesn't tab anything, so it's still 3 letters to TAB either way ;)
[14:03] <ltb30> http://i.imgur.com/L0AM8Oq.png
[14:03] <ltb30> sorry its in german :/ i hope you'll understand what it means
[14:04] <blazemore> ltb30: Beenden
[14:04] <blazemore> ltb30: then take another screenshot
[14:04] <valroadie> For some reason I cannot use my old ubuntuforums account, it has only made me a new account after going through the required ubuntu one site. Anyone else have this problem?
[14:04] <ProtekNickz|2> Hi all, Question, Since doing a video driver update, my bootsplash is in text mode???, is their a way to fix, as i've googed to no avail as most of their TuT's dont work :D????
[14:04] <blazemore> ltb30: Just out of interest is that Dutch or German? I guess German but I'm not sure
[14:04] <ltb30> german
[14:05] <ltb30> well, i clicked on "beenden" and the whole installation dialog closed
[14:05] <blazemore> oh I assumed that meant "back" :3
[14:06] <blazemore> I should stop advising people in languages I don't speak :L
[14:06] <ltb30> beenden means closing
[14:06] <ltb30> np ;)
[14:06] <blazemore> never mind, nothing bad happened
[14:06] <ProtekNickz|2> Hi all, Question, Since doing a video driver update, my bootsplash is in text mode???, is their a way to fix, as i've googed to no avail as most of their TuT's dont work :D????
[14:06] <blazemore> Basically there's a screen where you can choose to do Guided Partioning or Other
[14:06] <ltb30> http://i.imgur.com/R7YVkqg.png
[14:06] <blazemore> !patience | ProtekNickz|2
[14:07] <blazemore> yeah ltb30 the first one assuming that says "Install Ubuntu alongside Windows 7"
[14:07] <ltb30> yes
[14:07] <ltb30> that i was using the last time
[14:07] <ltb30> and it turned out that i couldnt boot into ubuntu
[14:07] <blazemore> You can use custom partitioning if you want, just make sure you make one partition formatted as ext4 mounted as /
[14:07] <zetheroo> just was looking at this (http://www.serenux.com/2009/11/howto-fix-a-missing-eth0-adapter-after-moving-ubuntu-server-from-one-box-to-another/) since I am experiencing the same issue .... but I am wondering if there was any way to make it so that the disks can be removed from one host and placed into a backup host and not have to manually fix the MAC address issue .... !?
[14:08] <ltb30> and he created a partition with which just had the ubuntu files in it
[14:08] <blazemore> And if you like, a swap partition, although nowadays with 4GiB+ RAM I am of the professional opinion that a dedicated swap partition isn't necessary on a desktop system
[14:08] <blazemore> ltb30: ok so go to the first screenshot you showed me. Double-click on Freier Speicherplatz
[14:08] <reisio> unless you want to hibernate
[14:09] <blazemore> ^
[14:09] <blazemore> You can use a swap FILE though surely?
[14:09] <reisio> or if you don't know to alter swappiness :)
[14:09] <reisio> blazemore: semantics :)
[14:09] <reisio> I like the partition, though, they come in handy
[14:09] <michael_2> Hello
[14:09] <reisio> hi michael_2
[14:09] <blazemore> It's just that nowadays we're in a position where drive space is actually at a premium, with SSDs. I can't afford to give up 16GiB of space on my 128GiB SSD just for the luxury of hibernation. I have, instead, a 1GiB swap file for emergencies
[14:09] <michael_2> can anyone help me with my wireless lan
[14:10] <blazemore> !anyone
[14:10] <michael_2> intel wifi is a pain in the ass
[14:10] <f7hF11> I wonder why Ubuntu hides the scrollbar like that. Isn't that somewhat confusing to new users? :o
[14:10] <ActionPa1snip> michael_2: depends on the exact chip
[14:10] <reisio> right, but at that point you probably really don't need swap :)
[14:10] <michael_2> intel centrino ultimate-n 6300
[14:10] <ActionPa1snip> f7hF11: it can be disabled / removed
[14:10] <msbrown> f7hF11: it's a default, it can be changed
[14:10] <ltb30> im also intrested why i shouldnt install ubuntu on my 2nd windows NTFS partition
[14:10] <michael_2> ubuntu found it but cant start the device
[14:11] <michael_2> device not ready
[14:11] <blazemore> reisio: I know, but I once heard you should have *some* swap for legacy reasons, so I do. More superstition than sysadmin ability
[14:11] <f7hF11> ActionPa1snip, msbrown: I know but I still wonder why it's like that. Probably to save screenspace on smaller screens, I suppose. But I don't know.
[14:11] <HypnotiX> Does anyone know why on a virtual box when i try to open a webpage i lose connectio to the internet, this does not happen in firefox or ie
[14:11] <blazemore> michael_2: Does your system have a make and model
[14:11] <reisio> blazemore: you can always nuke a swap partition and put anything in there
[14:11] <reisio> a rescue image...
[14:12] <reisio> you can use it for clandestine partition resizing... all sorts of things
[14:12] <michael_2> i installed intel ucode and nothing happens, so i installed compat wireless driver and nothing happens
[14:12] <msbrown> reisio: blazemore : where does Hibernate storage go?
[14:12] <michael_2> i have a DELL XPS 17 but the wireless lan card i installed on my own
[14:12] <reisio> msbrown: usually in the swap space
[14:12] <blazemore> msbrown: It saves the entire snapshot of RAM to swap, and restores it on resume
[14:12] <msbrown> reisio: well, there ya go
[14:12] <ltb30> blazemore, can i qry you? :D im getting a bit confused with all these people talking at the same time
[14:12] <blazemore> michael_2: What LAN card?
[14:12] <reisio> msbrown: right, for laptops :)
[14:12] <reisio> and casual desktops
[14:12] <michael_2> Intel Centrino ultimate-n 6300
[14:12] <blazemore> ltb30: DOn't query me, just preface each line with "blazemore:"
[14:13] <ltb30> ok.
[14:13] <blazemore> michael_2: What Ubuntu version are you using?
[14:13] <ltb30> blazemore: why shouldnt i install ubuntu on my 2nd windows ntfs-partition?
[14:14] <blazemore> ltb30: Because Ubuntu can't run from an ntfs partition
[14:14] <michael_2> blazemore,  ubuntu 13.04 64bit
[14:14] <ltb30> blazemore: wubi installation ran on it^
[14:14] <michael_2> i also tried 12.04 and 12.10
[14:14] <iceroot_> ltb30: wubi is something different then a real ubuntu installation
[14:14] <ltb30> oh, ok
[14:14] <iceroot_> ltb30: and the ubuntu from wubi is also not using ntfs
[14:15] <iceroot_> ltb30: its using a special file which is for ubuntu itself an ext partition
[14:15] <reisio> ltb30: if there's nothing on it, you can install to that patition _space_ just fine
[14:15] <blazemore> ltb30: Wubi is totally different, if you've been using wubi this entire time and I've been advising you on your partitioning, I'm deeply sorry for any problems
[14:15] <michael_2> blazemore, i also tried 12.04 and 12.10
[14:15] <ltb30> no, i want to switch from wubi to "real" ubuntu
[14:16] <blazemore> ltb30: You already "uninstalled" Ubuntu from within Windows?
[14:16] <blazemore> michael_2: sudo apt-get install linux-firmware linux-firmware-nonfree
[14:16] <ltb30> blazemore: is there a possibility to kill a task in ubuntu? i just wanted to go back on the installation, but the installation window is frozen
[14:17] <iceroot_> ltb30: nice to hear that you like ubuntu and want to use a real installation now
[14:17] <blazemore> ltb30: Hit alt+f2, type xkill and hit enter
[14:17] <michael_2> i totaly like the feeling of ubuntu and i want to keep it, but my wireless lan is important. at the moment i put a wifi stick at a usb port, so i dont have to sit next through my router with a ethernet cable
[14:17] <blazemore> the cursor will change to a skull (or an X) and you click the window you want to kill
[14:17] <ltb30> blazemore: thanks
[14:17] <ltb30> worked
[14:17] <blazemore> out of interest, was it a skull or an x?
[14:17] <ltb30> a x
[14:17] <blazemore> boring Ubuntu :(
[14:18] <michael_2> blazemore,  i already installed that
[14:18] <blazemore> It's weird, michael_2 , that is supposed to work out of the box. Are you sure there's not a hardware switch to enable/disable wireless
[14:19] <michael_2> there is a fn key, but nothing happens when i use them
[14:19] <michael_2> i think so too
[14:19] <ltb30> blazemore: so, double click on free space, what now? :)
[14:19] <michael_2> the usb wlan key works out of the box
[14:19] <michael_2> but the minipci card is a pain in the ass
[14:19] <blazemore> ltb30: Now you are creating a partition, so set the filesystem type to "ext4" and the mount point to "/"
[14:19] <iceroot_> !language | michael_2
[14:20] <blazemore> ltb30: If there is a box to tick to select if you want to format, tick it
[14:20] <michael_2> sorry
[14:20] <Naphatul> i have a partition mounted at /mnt/Data but it isn't showing in nautilus, any way to fix it?
[14:20] <Naphatul> by not showing i mean not in the sidebar
[14:20] <rvgate> When using Unity in a dual monitor setup, how can i make sure the launcher icons are only displayed if the application is active on that monitor... by default it shows the icon on both, even tho its only displayed on one...
[14:20] <blazemore> Naphatul: It's accessable at /mnt/data
[14:20] <ltb30> blazemore: http://i.imgur.com/0Y2L9n6.png
[14:20] <blazemore> /mnt/Data rather
[14:20] <blazemore> Naphatul: And you can drag shortcuts to the sidebar
[14:21] <ActionPa1snip> Naphatul: navigate to the folder manually
[14:21] <reisio> Naphatul: add it to your bookmarks? :)
[14:21] <blazemore> ltb30: Einbindungspunkt: /
[14:21] <ActionPa1snip> Naphatul: in ALT+F2 run:  nautilus /mnt/Data
[14:22] <blazemore> ltb30: Then OK, you can carry on with the rest of the installation.
[14:22] <Naphatul> ActionPa1snip: i know how to get to it but i can't get it to show in the sidebar
[14:22] <michael_2> blazemore,  any other idea?
[14:22] <blazemore> !wifi
[14:22] <blazemore> Only that michael_2
[14:23] <ltb30> so blazemore: logic instead of primary, and as "einbindungspunkt"  : / ?
[14:23] <Naphatul> i opened the bookmarks but i don't see a add button? where am i supposed to find it?
[14:23] <ActionPa1snip> Naphatul: once in the folder, use the cog in the top right to add it to bookmarks
[14:23] <michael_2> it seems the hardware is correct installed but the device must be started with some command
[14:23] <blazemore> Naphatul: have you tried just dragging the folder to the sidebar?
[14:23] <Naphatul> blazemore: yep, it tried copying stuff there
[14:23] <michael_2> i'am really new on ubuntu , so i dont know the commands for
[14:23] <Naphatul> if i dragged it on top of other stuff, if i didn't it just doesnt do anything
[14:24] <blazemore> Naphatul: In between two other items, it's a bit fiddly
[14:24] <neopsyche> how do I remove certain backport modules
[14:24] <Bl4CK-R41N> look at this http://ctf365.com/ref/oBsktmpznR
[14:25] <reisio> michael_2: what device is it?
[14:25] <ltb30> blazemore: the installer says i should use a SWAP partition...why? :/
[14:25] <blazemore> !spam | neopsyche
[14:25] <Naphatul> blazemore: it's more than a bit fiddly!
[14:25] <neopsyche> blazemore: why spam?
[14:25] <blazemore> sorry neopsyche
[14:25] <reisio> ltb30: it's like virtual memory / page file in Windows
[14:25] <michael_2> reisio, intel centrino ultimate-n 6300
[14:25] <blazemore> Bl4CK-R41N: don't spam please
[14:25] <reisio> ltb30: also hibernation file
[14:25] <neopsyche> !spam | blazemore
[14:25] <michael_2> useally a great wifi card
[14:25] <reisio> michael_2: a usb dongle?
[14:25] <Naphatul> anyway i added it to my bookmarks, thanks
[14:25] <blazemore> Not only did I pipe the wrong person, but !spam isn't even a thing
[14:25] <neopsyche> how do I remove certain backport modules?
[14:26] <reisio> neopsyche: can't you just blacklist?
[14:26] <michael_2> no minipci card
[14:26] <ltb30> blazemore: what should i do? create a partition?
[14:26] <neopsyche> reisio: how would i blacklist? I installed backport and now my wireless is not showing
[14:27] <reisio> michael_2: lsmod | grep -i iwlagn
[14:27] <neopsyche> should I re-install windows, to get my wireless back?
[14:28] <michael_2> reisio,  nothing happens with this command
[14:28] <reisio> is that a serious question?
[14:28] <reisio> michael_2: ok
[14:28] <michael_2> reisio,  i have the iwlwifi driver...i think so
[14:29] <reisio> michael_2: that the right one?
[14:29] <michael_2> i dont know
[14:29] <reisio> michael_2: what version of ubuntu?
[14:29] <michael_2> reisio,  ubuntu 13.04, i also tried 12.04., 12.10 i installed intel driver ucode, compat wireless driver etc
[14:30] <neopsyche> accidentally installed wrong wireless drivers how do i get back to original?
[14:30] <reisio> neopsyche: what'd you install?
[14:31] <neopsyche> reisio: https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&cad=rja&ved=0CDAQFjAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.kernel.org%2Fpub%2Flinux%2Fkernel%2Fprojects%2Fbackports%2F2013%2F06%2F18%2F&ei=qSAWUruSH8u6hAej74CACw&usg=AFQjCNHwqFoMsp7E4vhHc43vFObPdRmWZA&bvm=bv.51156542,d.ZG4
[14:31] <reisio> it's great how you can say what your distro is on ubuntuforums.org, so it's impossible to usefully search with strings like the distro name or version :p
[14:32] <neopsyche> reisio: https://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/projects/backports/2013/06/18/
[14:33] <DeliriumTremens> I'm attempting to install 12.04LTS server from a USB drive, and the install is hanging when detecting the USB device...are there any flags I should be setting to bypass or mitigate that?
[14:33] <DeliriumTremens> usb 1-1: new high-speed USB device number 2 using ehci_hcd
[14:33] <DeliriumTremens> then it hangs
[14:33] <neopsyche> reisio: ?
[14:34] <reisio> michaelni: so is iwlwifi in lsmod's output?
[14:34] <reisio> neopsyche: you know the name of the driver you were using?
[14:35] <reisio> DeliriumTremens: might try a minimal image
[14:35] <neopsyche> reisio: whatever the default driver is which comes with ubuntu 13.04/10 for intel.
[14:36] <DeliriumTremens> reisio: i'll give it a shot, thanks
[14:36] <neopsyche> why oh why can there not be a modular install/uninstall for all software like in ADD / REMOVE programs?
[14:37] <reisio> neopsyche: for random tarballs?
[14:38] <reisio> thee can be of course, but you have to have it setup ahead of time
[14:38] <ikonia> people need to stop pulling random kernel modules as blind fixes
[14:39] <neopsyche> reisio: randmo 'exe's' show up in hwinfo / add remove if they are hardware driver packages. .. all programs are listed in one place (generally) program files.
[14:39] <MonkeyDust> neopsyche  it would be unsafe to encourage installing any random program, see windows and more recentely mobile apps
[14:41] <DeliriumTremens> reisio: no dice, i just get a black screen with minimal
[14:41] <DeliriumTremens> i'm beginning to think there is a hardware (mobo) issue with this workstation
[14:42] <neopsyche> reisio: how can i roll back to original drivers?
[14:43] <benjudah> hey all
[14:48] <benjudah> got a question
[14:49] <gordonjcp> !ask | benjudah
[14:49] <mojtaba> Hi, I am using ubuntu 13.04 beside windows. Is it possible to clone windows partition for backup purposes, while I am in ubuntu?
[14:49] <benjudah> got it
[14:49] <mojtaba> I want to make a backup and then shrink size of the windows partition
[14:51] <benjudah> is it possible to  modify an old debien base to run a newer xwindow (say deb 2,2)
[14:51] <msbrown> mojtaba: you can use 'dd' to another space
[14:51] <DJones> benjudah: Probably best asking that in #debian rather than in the Ubuntu channel
[14:51] <mojtaba> msbrown: If shrinking failed, can I use dd to restore that partition again?
[14:52] <neopsyche> reiso: ok i found the correct drivers.. how to install
[14:52] <benjudah> I thought that ubuntu is deb based
[14:52] <Mnemon> mojtaba: yes
[14:53] <mojtaba> Mnemon: thanks
[14:53] <DJones> benjudah: It is, when you said an old debian base, I was assuming you meant you were using debian rather than Ubuntu though, if you're using debian then go ahead & ask here
[14:53] <DJones> benjudah: It is, when you said an old debian base, I was assuming you meant you were using debian rather than Ubuntu though, if you're using ubuntu (even) then go ahead & ask here
[14:54] <Mnemon> benjudah: you want to upgrade old debian to ubuntu or what?
[14:54] <guest0159632> hello
[14:54] <Mnemon> 'lo
[14:55] <benjudah> not the old debien base will not work with newer hardware but I do have the full source was just wonder if it was poosible to  modify it to work
[14:55] <guest0159632> i have a question rgearding the "Ubuntu CD Welcome Page" and the "Ubuntu CD Advanced Welcome Page" which are shown in the pictures over there: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions
[14:55] <msbrown> mojtaba: yes, dd to the device is a "raw" write. you should read up on the options etc.
[14:55] <guest0159632> the question is: how to get those pages to show up when booting from a USB drive instead of a CD?
[14:55] <msbrown> mojtaba: if dd is scary, look up Clonezilla app
[14:56] <guest0159632> when using Unetbootin for creating the USB drive, then those pages do not show up and are replaced with a simple Unetbootin page
[14:56] <Pici> benjudah: Is your question about Ubuntu at all? If not, then you need to ask in #debian
[14:57] <guest0159632> so, does anyone here know how to make the "Ubuntu CD Welcome Page" or the "Ubuntu CD Advanced Welcome Page" show up when booting from USB drive?
[14:58] <mojtaba> msbrown: Can I use clonezilla while I am in ubuntu? or it needs me to boot with it?
[14:58] <MonkeyDust> guest0159632  ubuntu welcome page? what do you mean?
[14:59] <benjudah> well I am getting the idea that I may not be able to with out rewriteing I supose can anyone get a deb 2.2 base to boot
[14:59] <guest0159632> MonkeyDust: first of all, thanks for your reply. i mean the "Ubuntu CD Welcome Page" and the "Ubuntu CD Advanced Welcome Page" which are shown in the pictures over there: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions
[15:00] <msbrown> mojtaba: i used it once a while ago, you'll need to read up on it
[15:00] <Araneidae> How do I set up a printer on lubuntu?  System Tools -> Printer has the relevant buttons greyed out.
[15:00] <mojtaba> msbrown: ok, thanks
[15:00] <MonkeyDust> guest0159632  basically: insert USB stick, boot from it, wait until screen appears
[15:01] <Flyingmaskin> Hola
[15:01] <Araneidae> I suspect I don't have CUPS installed for a start...
[15:02] <guest0159632> MonkeyDust: but when using Unetbootin for creating the USB-drive, then i only get a screen like this: http://www.cheap-computing.com/image-files/how_to_backup_files_when_windows_wont_boot_2.jpg after that screen ubuntu boots straight to the desktop without those welcome pages
[15:03] <MonkeyDust> guest0159632  yes, it looks different, but has the same options, so you can safely continue
[15:04] <guest0159632> MonkeyDust: well, almost the same options. lange selection seems to be missing  for example. and it looking different is one of the problem ;D. the ubuntu welcome pages do look better ;)
[15:05] <guest0159632> -lange selection +language selection
[15:05] <guest0159632> can someone recommend another tool for creating a live usb drive (other than Unetbootin)?
[15:06] <blazemore> LiLiusb
[15:06] <blazemore> On Windows, I don't use anything else
[15:06] <MonkeyDust> guest0159632  try MultiSystem
[15:06] <MonkeyDust> guest0159632  are you in windows now? if yes, it has Yummi or Yumma
[15:08] <guest0159632> just wondering: would it work to just extract the iso and copy the extracted content on a usb drive? is that enough to boot from it?
[15:08] <okibobo> I need a help with linux, sorry for my english
[15:09] <holstein> okibobo: ask, with as much detail as possible
[15:09] <okibobo> I know, that this is ubuntu channel, but I have problem with debian gnome shell and in Debian channel I didnt found some solution
[15:09] <okibobo> holstein:
[15:10] <holstein> okibobo: you'll need to be using ubuntu to use the real-time support of the volunteers here.. you can always refer to the wiki's for both ubuntu and debian on the subject
[15:10] <okibobo> holstein: I have problem, when I logged to my pc, gnome shell doesnt work, only in fallback mode
[15:11] <MonkeyDust> okibobo  this channel does not support distro's other than ubuntu
[15:11] <holstein> okibobo: that is likely due to graphics card driver support..
[15:12] <holstein> okibobo: running a 3d desktop will require 3d support on *any* operating system
[15:12] <okibobo> holstein: I know, but I have installed new driver and nothing
[15:13] <holstein> okibobo: you dont need a "new" driver.. you need one with 3d support working and enabled..
[15:14] <okibobo> holstein:  and how can I do that?
[15:15] <holstein> okibobo: i would go to the support channel for the operating system you are using, and inquire
[15:16] <okibobo> holstein: ok, thanks
[15:16] <holstein> okibobo: or, load up and test or install ubuntu and the volunteers here can help you.. the answer unfortunately can be, you might not be able to have 3d support, if your hardware doesnt support linux
[15:16] <bazhang> okibobo, #debian
[15:21] <benjudah> how do u  findout what version of ubuntu u r useing .... this one ays  black buntu I have found from other places that it is ubuntu maveric 12 or somthing
[15:21] <X-User> hello I am in a bit of problem here with ubuntu installation. I actually burnt 2 dvds with ISO file, 1 is not burnt successfully, and other is ok, now i am unable to identify which one is succeeded, though one DVD is 1.6Gb of size and another is 823Mb. its ubuntu 13.04. any help?
[15:21] <zykotick9> benjudah: "lsb_release -a" might help
[15:21] <X-User> 64 bit BTW.
[15:22] <blazemore> benjudah: cat /etc/issue
[15:22] <blazemore> X-User: You can check the integrity before you install by selecting the relevant option from the boot menu of the CD when you boot from it
[15:23] <zpierce> Hello, I have been trying to set up Oracle Database 11gR2 Express Edition in Ubuntu, and am having no luck.  Anyone on here that has experience with that and could offer help?
[15:23] <blazemore> I'd recommend you do that anyway, even if you have no reason to suspect your burn was flaky
[15:23] <blazemore> !details | zpierce
[15:24] <zpierce> ubottu/blazemore, I followed this guide: http://meandmyubuntulinux.blogspot.com/2012/05/installing-oracle-11g-r2-express.html on a fresh install of Ubuntu 13.10, and Oracle failed to configure.  Following his troubleshooting instructions did not change it
[15:25] <blazemore> ltb30: You don't *have* to create a swap partition, it's just a warning (sorry for slow reply. I assume you're sorted now)
[15:25] <blazemore> zpierce: 13.10 isn't out yet, and isn't supported
[15:25] <zpierce> Sorry, 13.04, just upgraded from 12.10
[15:26] <blazemore> zpierce: Do you get an error? Can you put the full output of the part that's failing on http://paste.ubuntu.com
[15:26] <X-User> blazemore, well, I am unable to understand what you said, but can anyone please confirm what is the file size of DVD after burning? the ISO file is about 823Mb, while one DVD is showing 1.6Gb and another is showing 821Mb. its Ubuntu 13.04 64-bit.
[15:26] <benjudah> thank u zykota  it is ubuntu 10.10 maveric
[15:27] <zykotick9> !tab > benjudah
[15:28] <zpierce> blazemore: Given the amount of config files that guide I linked requires changing, after it failed and the troubleshooting provided failed, I reinstalled Ubuntu (still 13.04) to make sure everything was undone.  So no, I do not have an error output.
[15:28] <X-User> any help over here please?\
[15:28] <benjudah> is it poosible to get the distro to boot and setup from the hard drive rather thn always boot from the cd get I do a lot of software ttesting and am geting tired of reburning cd
[15:29] <ActionPa1snip> X-User: you will need the DVD ISO to burn to a DVD
[15:29] <holstein> benjudah: i use lots of USB options.. drivedroid from my android phone.. or just USB sticks
[15:29] <holstein> !debootstrap
[15:30] <blazemore> holstein: is drivedroid like an isostick in software?
[15:31] <X-User> ActionPa1snip, what? I already installed it on one of my computer and worked perfectly with that DVD, now I am unable to understand which one i used because both DVDs are of same brand.
[15:31] <blazemore> X-User: Pretend you were going to install Ubuntu. Instead of selecting Install from the boot CD menu, select to check the disk for errors
[15:32] <holstein> blazemore: to the computer, it shows up like a drive to boot.. and works like a usb stick would.
[15:32] <blazemore> X-User: That is the best way to be sure your installation medium is 100% correct before installing
[15:32] <blazemore> holstein: Like I thought then, and you just give it iso files?
[15:32] <holstein> blazemore: like unetbootin, there are features like autodownloading and searching, but you can use whatever iso files you want
[15:33] <holstein> blazemore: so far, its booted everything i have thrown at it
[15:33] <blazemore> holstein: Yeah but does it do the whole unpacking, installing syslinux thing? Or does it "pretend" in software like how an isostick works in hardware?
[15:33] <blazemore> ie does it just use your phone as a USb flash drive, or is it cleverer than that and presents as a USb DVD drive with the iso "in" it?
[15:33] <holstein> blazemore: TBH, im not sure.. i think it "pretends" though
[15:33] <blazemore> If the latter, my iso stick will start gathering dust
[15:35] <X-User> blazemore, ok I kinda got a solution, I mounted the ISO file with Disk Image Mounter and it is showing around 821Mb, please confirm one thing, is the number of files in ISO and number of files in the Burned DVD are same? as this one DVd is showing the same number of file and file size with the mounted ISo.
[15:35] <blazemore> X-User: Yes it will be identical
[15:35] <blazemore> X-User: The point of the iso is it's a "disk image"
[15:35] <blazemore> But I *still* recommend you check the integrity first, I recommend everyone do that
[15:36] <X-User> blazemore, I don't know for sake, why Brasero is still included. :O
[15:36] <X-User> blazemore, ok, thanks.
[15:38] <magdur> guys i cant connect vpn with ubuntu 12.04
[15:39] <k1l> !details | magdur
[15:39] <X-User> blazemore, Ok, so the DVD with 1.6Gb of File size is the one that got Error, as the ISo file is only 823Mb and 821Mb when mounted.
[15:40] <Shadowandlight> what is the correct way to do this command? "apt-get http://www.concrete5.org/download_file/-/view/57877/8497/"
[15:40] <Shadowandlight> its not fetching the file located there
[15:41] <OerHeks> Shadowandlight, wget <url>
[15:41] <Shadowandlight> oh ty
[15:41] <X-User> Shadowandlight, apt-get is for installing softwares
[15:41] <Shadowandlight> ah...
 when i try from here http://us.hotfreevpn.com i cant connect vpn service
[15:41] <OerHeks> Shadowandlight, and after that, sudo dpkg -i <package.deb>
  my os ubuntu 12.04
[15:42] <tgm4883> Does ubumirror actually work? I'm using almost a stock configuration and all I get is "Unexpected remote arg: archive.ubuntu.com::ubuntu/"
[15:43] <Shadowandlight> hmm wget only got the index.html
[15:43] <enkindle> I have (software) raid1 set up, last night I had a drive fail, I rebuilt it just fine. After rebooting today is rebuilding one of my partitions again even though /proc/mdstat shows [UU] for it.
[15:43] <enkindle> Does anyone know why it would be resyncing again?
[15:45] <ActionPa1snip> enkindle: let it sync then reboot to test
[15:46] <enkindle> ActionPa1snip, it fully resynced last night, I rebooted today and now its doing it again.
[15:46] <vishwaprotim> hey ny body there?
[15:46] <deepfunk> good afternoon
[15:46] <X-User> vishwaprotim, hello.
[15:47] <X-User> deepfunk, hello.
[15:47] <vishwaprotim> hello
[15:47] <vishwaprotim> I am new to ubuntu
[15:47] <vishwaprotim> just installed it [13.04]  2 days ago
[15:47] <vishwaprotim> need help about drivers
[15:47] <deepfunk> i have a problem with ubuntu software center. is there no way to stop a download that has already stopped, because all the other downloads won't start because of it
[15:47] <ActionPa1snip> vishwaprotim: drivers for what?
[15:47] <X-User> vishwaprotim, whay drivers?
[15:48] <ActionPa1snip> deepfunk: what is the output of:  sudo apt-get -f update
[15:48] <deepfunk> kk
[15:48] <deepfunk> 1 sec
[15:48] <vishwaprotim> its well 2 things, one is amd graphics and the other is ralink wifi and bluetooth
[15:48] <ActionPa1snip> vishwaprotim: which ralink do you have?
[15:48] <vishwaprotim> rt 3290
[15:48] <ActionPa1snip> vishwaprotim: is the OS fully updated?
[15:48] <vishwaprotim> yes
[15:49] <deepfunk> resource temporarily unavailable
[15:49] <vishwaprotim> ubuntu cant detect my wifi driver
[15:49] <ActionPa1snip> deepfunk: can you pastebin the full output please
[15:49] <X-User> ActionPa1snip, is ndiswrapper needed?
[15:49] <deepfunk> E: Não foi possível obter acesso exclusivo a /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable) E: Impossível criar acesso exclusivo ao directório /var/lib/apt/lists/
[15:49] <mojtaba> Hi, Is it possible to add GPU power to the laptop externally?
[15:50] <ActionPa1snip> vishwaprotim: http://rricketts.com/installing-ralink-rt3290-wireless-drivers-in-ubuntu-12-04/
[15:50] <X-User> mojtaba, no
[15:50] <ActionPa1snip> mojtaba: no
[15:50] <ActionPa1snip> !aptfix | deepfunk
[15:51] <vishwaprotim> well I have gone through that site already but not much help
[15:51] <ActionPa1snip> vishwaprotim: seems the 3.7 and later kernel has the driver
[15:51] <ActionPa1snip> vishwaprotim: http://blog.deimos.fr/2012/11/17/ubuntu-12-11-wifi-ralink-rt-3290/
[15:51] <deepfunk> error while processing mandb
[15:52] <ActionPa1snip> deepfunk: instead of giving tiny sections of the output. use a pastebin and give it ALL
[15:52] <vishwaprotim> opening bluetooth in system settings shows no BT adapters found
[15:52] <X-User> ActionPa1snip, again one question, will the ISO file size/ number of files and the Burned DVD file size /number of files will be same?
[15:52] <vishwaprotim> well how can I know which kernel version I am using?
[15:52] <vishwaprotim> and how to upgrade a kernel?
[15:53] <vishwaprotim> p.s. I am new to linux
[15:53] <X-User> vishwaprotim, uname -a
[15:53] <X-User> vishwaprotim, in terminal
[15:53] <holstein> vishwaprotim: if you are new, i would just try a live CD that has a newer kernel by default.. test the hardware, and consider reinstalling
[15:53] <vishwaprotim> tried reinstalling
[15:53] <deepfunk> ActionPalsnip: the download is working now! thanks!
[15:53] <X-User> ActionPa1snip, any reply please?
[15:53] <vishwaprotim> but nothing happened
[15:54] <vishwaprotim> okay I ran that command and here is theoutput
[15:54] <vishwaprotim> Linux vishwaHP-Paviliong6 3.8.0-29-generic #42-Ubuntu SMP Tue Aug 13 19:40:39 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[15:55] <fahad_> looking for developers
[15:55] <vishwaprotim> I am learning linux in college
[15:55] <fahad_> any freelancers here ?
[15:56] <vishwaprotim> and found it really better than windows
[15:56] <X-User> vishwaprotim, read a book on it.
[15:56] <vishwaprotim> well I have gone through a number of websites
[15:56] <OerHeks> !manual
[15:56] <vishwaprotim> many said it is a bug
[15:57] <vishwaprotim> I am a bit familiar with ubuntu as I have used it in virtual machine [win 8]
[15:57] <X-User> vishwaprotim, what is a bug?
[15:57] <vishwaprotim> and when i gained a bit confidence, replaced win 8 with ubuntu and these problems arose
[15:57] <vishwaprotim> a bug?
[15:58] <X-User> vishwaprotim, u told that
[15:58] <compdoc> vishwaprotim, best not to update the kernel on your own
[15:58] <compdoc> its done for you
[15:59] <X-User> !kernel | vishwaprotim
[15:59] <dstevens> does anyone know when ubuntu are officially releasing php 5.4 + version ?
[16:00] <dstevens> preferably on a lts release
[16:00] <vishwaprotim> I think with sudo apt-get update && get-upgrade ubuntu automatically updates from the terminal, right?
[16:00] <dstevens> vishwaprotim: yes sir !
[16:00] <holstein> vishwaprotim: i use "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[16:01] <vishwaprotim> I tried many times
[16:01] <vishwaprotim> well gone through the net  and followed the instructions
[16:01] <dstevens> dist-upgrade , holstein gave answer ...
[16:01] <holstein> vishwaprotim: follow my *exact* answer.. the one you gave has syntax issues
[16:01] <OerHeks> dstevens, 12.04 lts keeps the 5.3.10, > https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/php5
[16:02] <compdoc> vishwaprotim, run them one at a time:  sudo apt-get update, and watch for errors. then run:  sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[16:02] <OerHeks> dstevens upgrade, or wait until 14.04
[16:02] <moondog> holstein: what do you believe the dist-upgrade does?
[16:02] <vishwaprotim> one said to download the driver, then use sth like sudo su then make then make install
[16:03] <vishwaprotim> after that I get ath like error 1 and error 2
[16:03] <vishwaprotim> *sth
[16:03] <dstevens> OerHeks: Arhh so the next lts release 14.04 should have 5.4+ thanks buddy
[16:03] <holstein> moondog: i dont.. i look it up and *know* what it does.. it does *not* upgrade the distrobution
[16:03] <moondog> I have looked it up
[16:03] <vishwaprotim> okay...another thing, the graphix problem
[16:03] <holstein> vishwaprotim: upgrade.. then, test.. then, see what "fixes" are not applied and go from there
[16:04] <OerHeks> dstevens, next release suasy has 5.5.x
[16:04] <convoi> hello
[16:04] <OerHeks> saucy*
[16:04] <raub> How nice is the intel 5100 card in ubuntu?
[16:04] <vishwaprotim> What I tried is open sys settings->softwares and updates-> additional dr. ->
[16:04] <convoi> hi Ari-Yang
[16:04] <vishwaprotim> I tried installing the properitary one
[16:04] <Ari-Yang> hi convoi
[16:04] <vishwaprotim> and after i reboot
[16:04] <vishwaprotim> unity crashes
[16:04] <Ari-Yang> convoi, did everything work out?
[16:04] <ActionPa1snip> deepfunk: sweet
[16:04] <Ari-Yang> no more heating?
[16:04] <vishwaprotim> I mean i just get a blank screen
[16:05] <vishwaprotim> well i again had to remove them and use ccsm to enable unity
[16:05] <dstevens> OerHeks: Lol The Saucy Salamander has 5.5.x nice
[16:05] <S3Xinfo> http://s3x.info/legs-up-full-view-of-beautiful-shaved-pussy-3/
[16:05] <holstein> vishwaprotim: using the open drivers are always an option
[16:05] <vishwaprotim> yes
[16:06] <moondog> holstein: I don't suppose this is a discussion channel, but I'd be interesting in knowing why one would do an apt-get upgrade *and* an apt-get dist-upgrade
[16:06] <vishwaprotim> and open drivers work well fro me
[16:06] <vishwaprotim> *for
[16:06] <convoi> Ari-Yang, i dont know why after when i upgrade ubuntu, xubuntu, voyager my desktop resolution was wrong. now i am using linux lite
[16:06] <holstein> vishwaprotim: TBH, all the hardware you are having issues with may not work properly.. what would i do? upgrade the pacakages and test and see if "fixes" have come in.. then go from there
[16:06] <vishwaprotim> but okay, let me tell you the entire thing
[16:06] <Ari-Yang> convoi, I see....
[16:07] <convoi> with voyager, linuxmint - my laptop freeze at boot screen
[16:07] <vishwaprotim> I tried installing bjeweled 3 game using wine
[16:07] <vishwaprotim> and in game settings, enabling 3d acceleration doesnt work
[16:07] <vishwaprotim> so I thought of installing prop. drivers
[16:08] <vishwaprotim> but got a blank dektop as a result
[16:08] <holstein> moondog: http://askubuntu.com/questions/194651/why-use-apt-get-upgrade-instead-of-apt-get-dist-upgrade , in particular.. "dist-upgrade option can "intelligently" handle changes in the dependencies system"
[16:08] <moondog> thanks!
[16:10] <convoi> i cant say goodbye linux 'cause i love the feeling when type a command and view the process is running ^^
[16:10] <raub> i thought that dist-upgrade implied changes that might require rebooting while upgrade wouldn't
[16:11] <holstein> raub: nothing to do with a reboot, AFAIK.. either you need to reboot for a kernel upgrade or not
[16:12] <raub> holstein: but apt-get upgrade will hold back kernel upgrades while dist-upgrade won't
[16:13] <holstein> raub: still, nothing about that command means you should or shouldnt reboot.. if you run "apt-get dist-upgrade", and take advantage of its arguable perks, and dont get a kernel upgrade, you dont need to reboot
[16:14] <vishwaprotim> please help me regarding these two issues
[16:14] <holstein> vishwaprotim: you listed 3, friend.. and have you applied the upgrades to the packages?
[16:15] <vishwaprotim> yes
[16:15] <holstein> graphics + wifi + bluetooth = 3
[16:15] <vishwaprotim> I have
[16:15] <vishwaprotim> oh...okay...3
[16:15] <holstein> vishwaprotim: in a terminal.. "sudo apt-get update".. any errors?
[16:15] <vishwaprotim> lemme try
[16:15] <vishwaprotim> 1 min pls
[16:16] <vishwaprotim> no errors
[16:16] <holstein> vishwaprotim: then, "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade".. any errors?
[16:16] <prana> does anyone know where to find dbgsym packages for the 12.04 LTS quantal kernels? (it doesnt look like they are on ddebs.ubuntu.com)
[16:17] <vishwaprotim> here is the output for dist-upgrade : 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[16:18] <holstein> vishwaprotim: ok.. reboot in case you took a kernel upgrade and didnt reboot
[16:19] <prana> it also doesn't look like they are here https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/+source/linux-lts-quantal
[16:19] <vishwaprotim> all the softs, and kernel are uptodate
[16:19] <holstein> vishwaprotim: and, you have rebooted? as i asked?
[16:19] <holstein> vishwaprotim: you need to reboot to use the kernel that was potentially upgraded
[16:20] <holstein> vishwaprotim: please, even if you think, or know you did not take any kernel upgrade, reboot the machine as i ask
[16:20] <vishwaprotim> okay
[16:27] <Guest69807> what ?
[16:28]  * Guest69807 hello
[16:29] <vishwaprotim> so rebooted, now what next?
[16:29] <michael_2> Hello it's me again
[16:29] <michael_2> Wifi is still not working
[16:29] <michael_2> its so desperate
[16:30] <Guest73651> can someone help me find getlibs?
[16:30] <Guest73651> I am extremely desperate
[16:30] <Guest73651> it seems to be removed from every corner of the known universe
[16:31] <Angelolb> I need some help about Ubuntu
[16:31] <Guest69807> guest73*** @ try this http://web.archive.org/web/20080508210022/www.boundlesssupremacy.com/Cappy/getlibs/
[16:32] <holstein> Guest69807: what are you trying to do? maybe a volunteer can help you with a current package or idea
[16:32] <Alagar> any one can help me, how to write own custom chain  in iptables
[16:32] <holstein> Guest73651: ^^
[16:32] <holstein> vishwaprotim: test the wifi..
[16:33] <holstein> !wifi | michael_2
[16:33] <vishwaprotim> it is still off
[16:33] <michael_2> Hello Holstein, i already tried this
[16:33] <Angelolb> I'm not able to access the windows, but it's in the Grub...how to fix it?
[16:33] <vishwaprotim> I even cant toggle it on/off using fn keys in the laptop
[16:34] <Angelolb> just installed ubuntu...
[16:34] <holstein> vishwaprotim: what would i do? for both you and michael_2 .. i would test the wifi chip in a supported OS.. i would test the function keys and make sure its enabled.. i would try other live CD's. i would search.. i would try the windows driver with ndis-gtk.. i would keep in mind that my hardware may *never* work in linux, since the hardware manufacters dont officially support linux
[16:34] <prana> ah, figured it out. need ddebs with the precise-updates distro.
[16:35] <Guest73651> Guest69807: it's been removed too
[16:37] <vishwaprotim> ah...well its really bad :(
[16:38] <vishwaprotim> I downloaded driver file from ralink site, extracted it->edited config.mk->sudo su->make->make install -> sth like error 1 and error 2
[16:38] <vishwaprotim> :(
[16:38] <holstein> vishwaprotim: if you want a driver from that site, that site will support you..
[16:39] <Guest73651> is there a way to get wine 1.2.2 without compiling?
[16:39] <Angelolb> someone could help me?
[16:40] <holstein> !ask Angelolb
[16:40] <OerHeks> Guest73651, current wine in Raring ia 1.4.1, why do you want a previous version?
[16:41] <Guest73651> OerHeks: new version has errors running what I need it to.  Old version has platinum rating.
[16:43] <wgolden> Good afternoon :) was wondering if anyone could help me get my Cisco AE2500 wireless dongle working on ubuntu 12
[16:43] <OerHeks> Guest73651, install Lucid 10.04, but that version is no longer supported. since Lucid, a lot of things and dependencies has changed.
[16:46] <Elisha> in ubuntu LTS 12.04 LTS rev2 there was 3.5 kernel, now in rev3 there's 3.2 kernel
[16:46] <Elisha> is that correct?
[16:47] <gregL> wgolden, http://www.grailbox.com/2012/05/installing-cisco-linksys-ae2500-wireless-adapter-in-linux/
[16:47] <Guest73651> OerHeks: getlibs would allow me to keep my current system, as I could install the native linux client of he software i need.  do you have a file or know how to get it?  I've looked everywhere and can't find it.
[16:48] <OerHeks> Guest73651, no i don't as i never heard of getlibs
[16:49] <OerHeks> Elisha, 12.04.2 has the 3.2 kernel too.
[16:49] <Guest73651> OerHeks: i need to run 32 bit libs on my 64 bit system.  that's what it does.  do you know of a working alternative?
[16:49] <Elisha> why then if I install it writes 3.5
[16:50] <Elisha> I have server version
[16:50] <OmSai> hi all, I'm trying to install gTimelapse from source, and it complains that pkg-config cannot find libgphoto2.  I have libgphoto2 installed, but `dpkg -L libgphoto2-2` shows there is no .pc file installed.  Is it sane to expect this file to be there?
[16:50] <OerHeks> Guest73651, i guess you want the ia32-libs package ?
[16:51] <Elisha> OerHeks: Linux private-server-filter 3.5.0-23-generic #35~precise1-Ubuntu SMP Fri Jan 25 17:13:26 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[16:51] <Orioa> anyone here know about graphics i have dual monitors  graphics card is nvidia not sure what is best driver
[16:51] <OerHeks> Guest73651, since 11.10 ubuntu is multiarch > http://askubuntu.com/questions/107230/what-happened-to-the-ia32-libs-package
[16:51] <trism> OmSai: it would be in the -dev package if it exists
[16:51] <Orioa> additional drivers list 3 drivers available one installed but other 2 are same ones
[16:51] <OmSai> trism: thanks
[16:52] <Orioa> and second monitor is not detected
[16:52] <trism> OmSai: and it seems to be: libgphoto2-2-dev
[16:52] <OerHeks> Elisha, did you enable backports? that might be the case for having a newer kernel version?
[16:53] <Elisha> default iso installation
[16:53] <Elisha> no custom setup
[16:53] <wgolden> gregL im using 64bit, i tried installing the xp drivers but using ndiswrapper -l to verify says its an invalid driver
[16:54] <tmmunq> 64bit drivers?
[16:54] <Elisha> I don't mind, just weird that noticed it's not 3.5 anymore, probably some glitch in installation
[16:54] <Elisha> or kernel build repository
[16:54] <Guest73651> OerHeks: thanks OerHeks.  I found something else that may solve the issue while looking for that.  God bless.
[16:57] <michael_2> holstein,  there is a website with Drivers for my wifi card, but i dont unterstand the install proces
[16:57] <michael_2> process*
[16:57] <holstein> michael_2: the website would supply instructions
[16:58] <Orioa> i take it no one knows about drivers for graphics
[16:58] <michael_2> holstein,  yes it does, but i'm absolutly new at ubuntu. I want learan ubuntu slowly, but thats the hardway :D
[16:58] <ardian_> I have about 30 computers I want to install inkscape on all of them is there any way to make this process faster, I mean install them automaticlly in all computers
[16:58] <loin> hi guys, i can't get my monitor connected via hdmi to work on my laptop
[16:59] <loin> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6014691/
[17:00] <opalepatrick> new install of mysql on 13.04 64bit using up nearly 100% cpu then climbs up to nearly 100% memory, anyone seen any reference to this problem? Both new clean working installs.
[17:02] <michael_2> holstein,  this is the website: http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/iwlwifi   i don't understand this firmware Thing
[17:04] <vishwaprotim> guys please have a look at this post at the top...similar case for me also
[17:04] <vishwaprotim> http://forum.novatech.co.uk/showthread.php?25562-How-to-get-the-RAlink-3290-wireless-working
[17:06] <mayhew> I'm about to buy an LGA 1150 motherboard and was wondering if there's anything I should  look out for to ensure it works well with Linux - what type of ethernet brand(s) work  best on Linux? Any quirks I should know of before I purchase?
[17:09] <opalepatrick> mayhew, this may be useful http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/desktop/ not sure if it is bang up to date
[17:10] <michael_2> usr13,  are you there?
[17:10] <mayhew> opalepatrick: thanks
[17:10] <Elisha> mayhew: I all boils down to kernel
[17:10] <mayhew> Elisha: yeah I know, I just want to ensure my NIC has open source drivers
[17:11] <Gerald> LGA1150 is for Haswell.  Haswell integrates a lot of the Mobo parts into the processor.  I think you should be safe regardless of what you get
[17:11] <Extreminador> where can i found in ubuntu the terminal icon ?
[17:11] <Extreminador> the image it self
[17:11] <smallfoot> /usr/share/icons/
[17:11] <Extreminador> smallfoot thanks
[17:11] <smallfoot> :9
[17:11] <smallfoot> np
[17:11] <mayhew> Gerald: a friend of mine has an LGA1150 and wired ethernet doesn't work out of the box.. I want to avoid that
[17:12] <smallfoot> mayhew, Maybe he has piece-of-shit Atheros/Bigfoot KillerNIC or something dumb like that, it would probably work if he had Intel or Realtek NIC
[17:12] <mayhew> smallfoot: yeah, it's a MSI mobo with KillerNIC.. so Intel and Realtek tend to be open source friendly?
[17:14] <mayhew> The mobo I was thinking of getting has an Intel i217V LAN chipset, couldn't really find out if that was supported or not via Google.
[17:14] <goddard> after my last update for some reason firefox and thunderbird wont start
[17:14] <goddard> (process:4592): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_slice_set_config: assertion `sys_page_size == 0' failed
[17:14] <goddard> Could not create gnome accelerators directory `/home/goddard/.gnome2/accels': Permission denied
[17:14] <DX099> hello, I'm trying to make a live USB of Ubuntu 12.10 but I'm only getting errors : "boot error" or "isolinux.bin missing" I tried dd, I tried Ubuntu's default live usb creator with no success... My HDD is dying, I need a live system to make an image that I can restore on the new one, but nothing is working... now I even loose touchpad from one boot to another... please help.
[17:16] <DX099> I even tried unetbootin installers on windows that used to work for me, but this time, I got that "boot error" message. Grub also warns me everytime I boot that system is "trying to read or write outside of /dev/hdd0"...
[17:18] <Ari-Yang> hmmm.... So I updated my FireFox from 22.0 to 23.0 (I'm on ubuntu 12.10), and like after every 8-10min pages won't load, so then I turn off my laptop's wifi for a 10sec and turn it back on, spam out the 'Try Again' reload button and the page loads fine. It happens ever other 8-10min, why is that? Is there a bug with FireFox 23 or is it my internet that is acting up?
[17:19] <ezra-s> Ari-Yang, sounds like your internet
[17:20] <Ari-Yang> ezra-s, yeah, I think so too tbh ;/
[17:20] <ezra-s> Ari-Yang, easy to check though... run another program to check
[17:20] <ezra-s> chrome
[17:20] <ezra-s> chromium
[17:20] <ezra-s> or whatever other you may have installed
[17:20] <Ari-Yang> ezra-s, I don't have that installed, though my IRC connection is just fine ethough...
[17:20] <goddard> DX099: the flash drives in my experience are touchy, but I successfully got Ubuntu 13.04 working with http://www.pendrivelinux.com/
[17:20] <vishwaprotim> hey guys....what should I do next?
[17:20] <Ari-Yang> during the time firefox stops loading pages, I'm still connected to IRC, ezra-s
[17:20] <Ari-Yang> which I find interesting....
[17:21] <goddard> DX099: i manually downloaded the iso from the Ubuntu website
[17:21] <ezra-s> Ari-Yang, then it is not a network thing
[17:21] <ezra-s> Ari-Yang, try installing another browser, sudo apt-get install chromium
[17:21] <Ari-Yang> ezra-s, okay, I will in a bit, I'll get back to you when I try it.
[17:21] <ezra-s> "sudo apt-get install chromium-browser"
[17:22] <goddard> Ari-Yang: i am having similar issues with my connection
[17:22] <Ari-Yang> goddard: Interesting :o
[17:22] <goddard> Ari-Yang: it gets slow sometimes
[17:22] <DX099> goddard, which creator did you used ? It seems that website is listing USB live creators
[17:22] <ezra-s> wifi sucks really
[17:22] <goddard> sometimes it wont load
[17:22] <Ari-Yang> goddard, but not with IRC? like you're still connected?
[17:22] <ezra-s> never had a wifi router or hub which never gave me problems
[17:23] <vishwaprotim> wifi problem still persists
[17:23] <vishwaprotim> :(
[17:23] <ezra-s> nothing like good'ol ethernet
[17:23] <goddard> DX099: the USB installer
[17:23] <goddard> Ari-Yang: it will lag out in irc some times
[17:23]  * ezra-s thinking of wiring his house with optic fibre ;P
[17:23] <goddard> Ari-Yang: this is a brand new system so it doesn't make sense
[17:23] <DX099> goddard, you meand "Universal USB installer" ?
[17:24] <goddard> DX099: ya use that one
[17:24] <DX099> goddard, I'm on linux
[17:24] <DX099> goddard, I don't have access to any windows machine...
[17:24] <goddard> DX099: thats how i did it
[17:24] <Ari-Yang> goddard, ah, well my IRC connection is just fine... during the time when firefox farts, and I disable my wifi for 10sec, I'm still connected to IRC (after those 10sec pass I turn it back on and FireFox loads pages again)
[17:24] <goddard> DX099: i tried the ubuntu start disk creator and it failed
[17:25] <goddard> Ari-Yang: maybe cache issue
[17:25] <Ari-Yang> goddard, oh?
[17:25] <Nach0z> Ari-Yang: IRC's fairly resilient as far as disconnects go
[17:26] <Nach0z> I've had the power blink in my house before for like, fifteen seconds, when the router came back online my IRC client was like, "Disconnect? What disconnect?"
[17:26] <Ari-Yang> Nach0z, heh..
[17:26] <DX099> goddard, that's what I'm saying didn't work for me either
[17:26] <goddard> DX099: im telling you how i got it working ironically i had to use a windows machine
[17:26] <Ari-Yang> goddard, I think I'll clear the cache
[17:28] <FatDarrel> need some help with ddclient
[17:29] <Kalel> Greetings..
[17:29] <xirre> ps -p [pid] -o pcpu > \'[cpu_file]\' -- This prints the CPU. But I noticed that it doesn't print it accurately all the time. What commands can I run to get a more accurate reading?? I'm not highly experienced either. I just was wondering how I can get a good reading and print it to a file for reading later.
[17:30] <FatDarrel> does anyone use ddclient
[17:31] <Kalel> I would like to know, how can I make my smartphone connected in usb be recognized by windows in the Virtual Box?
[17:32] <Mightyk> Install virtualbox extension pack..select mass storage mode in your smartphone
[17:32] <DX099> goddard, yes usually I would also get it working by using an installer on windows but this time, it failed
[17:32] <Kalel> fellas?7
[17:33] <OerHeks> xirre > less /proc/cpuinfo | grep "model name"
[17:34] <xirre> model name	: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-2620M CPU @ 2.70GHz
[17:35] <kahu> For my office environment I would like to set up Standard users, but be able to administrate on their account when needed as sudo.  Can I switch to an Admin account from within Terminal when I'm on a Standard user session?
[17:36] <xirre> OerHeks: model name	: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-2620M CPU @ 2.70GHz
[17:36] <OerHeks> xirre nice
[17:36] <tmmunq> your users need to be sudoers
[17:36] <xirre> Thank u.
[17:36] <xirre> Thank you*.
[17:37] <xirre> And how would I go about telling the CPU usage of each process as well as outputting the more accurate reading to a .txt file to be read for other means? :o
[17:37] <xirre> Was just curious.
[17:38] <HackerII> xirre  cat /proc/cpuinfo
[17:38] <Extreminador> in e17 desktop enviroment when we are exploring the directorys i don´t see any shortcut to move back/down directory
[17:38] <Extreminador> how can i move back to the older directory path ?
[17:38] <kahu> @tmmunq: OK, that's what it seems, but seems unfortunate.  If this must be I'll work around it. OpenSUSE allows for an Admin user to become the username set when a sudo password is required.
[17:39] <vishwaprotim> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1189721
[17:39] <Extreminador> forget backspace works for that
[17:39] <vishwaprotim> it says that my driver wont support bt
[17:39] <vishwaprotim> but it should have supported wifi
[17:39] <vishwaprotim> can ny body help me regarding this/
[17:39] <vishwaprotim> *?
[17:39] <kahu>  It seems Ubuntu Software has this sorted out: I can be a standard user and install/remove software packages through the GUI and a gksudo prompt appears with the Administrator username.
[17:40] <xirre> HackerII: How does that help.
[17:40] <HackerII> it gives you the name
[17:40] <kahu> I'd like to be able to gksudo -k -u ADMIN to switch users within Terminal by providing an Admin password, but I can't if I'm not in sudoers it seems
[17:40] <xirre> Oh. No. I wanted to write the CPU % reading to a separate file.
[17:41] <xirre> But I wanted it more accurate.
[17:41] <HackerII> ic ok
[17:41] <xirre> Lol. Sorry if I was being confusing!
[17:41] <HackerII> it was me
[17:41] <xirre> So do you have any idea as to how I'd go about this?
[17:42] <OerHeks> xirre see this askubuntu page >> http://askubuntu.com/questions/68741/finding-cpu-usage-from-top-command
[17:43] <deepfunk> hey again
[17:43] <deepfunk> i'm trying to create a virtual machine on ubuntu 13.04 but i can't seem to find the best tutorial
[17:43] <deepfunk> does anyone know a good tutorial?
[17:44] <whoever> designbybeck_: what vm are you using
[17:44] <whoever> deepfunk: what vm are you using
[17:45] <xirre> OerHeks: Okay. I tried top. Just didn't have any luck with printing. I'll try that right now.
[17:45] <deepfunk> i want to use VMware
[17:45] <whoever> deepfunk: any reason why  , and why not virtualbox
[17:45] <deepfunk> is it better?
[17:46] <whoever> deepfunk: thats subjective but i couldn't find any good ones either ,
[17:46] <Ari-Yang> goddard, clearing the cache didn't work :/ I'll try out chromium next.
[17:46] <deepfunk> ok
[17:47] <whoever> deepfunk: i have  done it so ill talk you through it. do you have vmvare workstation, installed ? if not youll have to dowload it
[17:47] <whoever> deepfunk: its not in the repos, so you can dl it how ever you see fit
[17:48] <deepfunk> virtualbox»
[17:48] <deepfunk> ?
[17:48] <ale12> ciao
[17:48] <ale12> !list
[17:48] <dsdfsad> Hi, quick newbie question. i have squid installed over ubuntu,. as i edit the conf file, my ssh sessions got terminated due to network problem. as soon as i log in, i try to edit the file i get the message that file is being used. and i get the PID number, my question. would it be enough to kill the pid? will something happen to the conf file?
[17:48] <jasp3r> I, accidentally deleted my Downloads folder and tried to recover using 'testdisk' but no luck. Any help ? Perhaps using extundelete  ?
[17:49] <whoever> deepfunk: so now you want to use virtualbox ?
[17:49] <deepfunk> yes
[17:49] <goddard> Ari-Yang: how is your disk and memory health
[17:49] <msbrown> deepfunk: some hints https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware
[17:49] <whoever> deepfunk: any reason why you changed your mind
[17:50] <deepfunk> if it's better i can try it
[17:50] <tmmunq> just use virtualbox, its a lot easier to use and friendly to linux than vmware. downloading the version from virtualbox.org is best
[17:50] <whoever> deepfunk: "better" for any application is often subjective not objective
[17:51] <dsdfsad> anyone can help?
[17:51] <Ari-Yang> goddard, just fine. I think the problem is my internet tbh, it's been acting up all week. Though maybe I'll go back to FireFox 22.0 if I still have the .deb for it, where is it kept?
[17:51] <whoever> deepfunk: so that beeing said. how new are you
[17:51] <deepfunk> very new
[17:51] <Ari-Yang> offtopic... where do I go to report a spam bot nick that pmed me?....
[17:51] <Ari-Yang> what channel here on freenode?
[17:52] <whoever> deepfunk: ok, have you used  virtual machines in windows  before
[17:52] <Nach0z> honestly I think there's actually a policy against reporting spambots
[17:52] <Nach0z> every time I try they're like STOP TALKING ABOUT THE SPAMBOTS IT MAKES YOU A SPAMMER
[17:52] <Ari-Yang> oh nvm, the spam bot is Twatslimer... (he's here on this ubuntu channel)
[17:53] <deepfunk> no
[17:53] <Pici> Nach0z: there is no such policy.
[17:53] <honestly> Ari-Yang: #help
[17:53] <whoever> deepfunk: ok. have you even used windows before ?
[17:53] <Pici> Ari-Yang: can you pm me the message?>
[17:53] <Nach0z> Pici: maybe not a written policy but I've never gotten anything but "SHUT UP" before when trying to report them.
[17:55] <deepfunk> yes i used windows before
[17:57] <whoever> deepfunk: ok, now vmware is more main steam with windows , and virtualbox is ususally the choice on linux type systems and you can use vmware images in virtualbox. so now i will let you pick which one you want to use, if you have any questions , don't hezitate to ask
[17:58] <deepfunk> ok, Virtual box
[17:59] <mackwerk__> Hello! I am trying to keep load down on my postgres server while running a backup with barman so I wondered if its possible to renice on the barman pid only or if I have to do it on all processes that has something to do with the backup?
[18:00] <whoever> deepfunk: ok,  I assume you are using the gui to install instead of command linee, so go ubuntu software update center and look for virtualbox and virtualbox gues additions
[18:00] <BIGTONE> I'm having problems with xchat!
[18:00] <whoever> deepfunk: install bote
[18:00] <whoever> *both
[18:00] <goddard> Ari-Yang: you download the deb file?
[18:00] <goddard> Ari-Yang: should just be apt-get install firefox
[18:01] <goddard> Ari-Yang: you could try purging it if you dont mind losing settings and such
[18:01] <Ari-Yang> goddard, I updated Firefox from 21.0 to 22.0 via ubuntu software updater, and the same for updating from 22.0 to 23.0. does ubuntu keep the .deb files of previous versions?
[18:01] <FatDarrel> Does anyone here use ddclient
[18:02] <scorp1us> Hi all, i pulled my disk and put it in a new machine with a differnt but close video car (both radeons) it isn't rending right. How can I fix it?
[18:02] <goddard> dsdfsad: i doubt anything will happen to the conf file
[18:03] <goddard> dsdfsad: have you tried making a copy?
[18:03] <goddard> just in case
[18:03] <dsdfsad> the problem is i editeed it, and im not sure if killing it will save the changes (which i dont want it to)
[18:04] <BluesKaj> scorp1us, check additional drivers , alt+F2
[18:04] <scorp1us> ok then what?
[18:04] <scorp1us> that just asks me for a command
[18:04] <BluesKaj> choose the recommended driver
[18:04] <dsdfsad> will the command kill (pid) be enough? or more is needed?
[18:05] <BluesKaj> yeah , additional drivers , command
[18:05] <scorp1us> Hrm, I am in mint
[18:05] <goddard> dsdfsad: if you made changes to the file and saved them, but it wouldn't let you write?
[18:05] <BluesKaj> !linux-mint
[18:05] <goddard> dsdfsad: if you wrote to the file the changes are in the file
[18:05] <BluesKaj> !linuxmint
[18:05] <IdleOne> !mint
[18:05] <goddard> dsdfsad: the program probably reads the file at boot up
[18:06] <majornick> http://askubuntu.com/questions/48215/password-not-working-in-graphical-applications-gksu-works-with-sudo everyone should know about this
[18:06] <goddard> dsdfsad: that should do it
[18:06] <dsdfsad> ok, thanks. i hope it will work out
[18:08] <deepfunk> done
[18:08] <deepfunk> I've installed Virtual box
[18:08] <majornick> anyone know how to diable java script on firefox completley?
[18:09] <goddard> majornick: noscript
[18:09] <Nach0z> majornick: noscript, or I think there's actually a firefox setting
[18:09] <goddard> majornick: its pretty hard to completely disable javascript on sites nowadays
[18:09] <goddard> nothing will work
[18:10] <Nach0z> huh. nope. no setting. nevermind. Used to be one
[18:10] <Ampelbein> Nach0z: The checkbox got removed, you can still disable it in about:config
[18:10] <majornick> i was listening to this Linux for the rest of us" podcast and this guy was saying that he uses no java script and i sen another guy on here before did the same thing. but its cool i got bigger fish to fry and like web brosing so i should keep that one.
[18:12] <Nach0z> Ampelbein: ah gotcha. thanks.
[18:15] <kurtwp> I did the googles to find help on issues I am having with my VPN but could come up wiht anything that works.  I cann connect to the VPN but cannot ping any of the remote servers - using 13.04
[18:16] <compdoc> kurtwp, thats pretty common
[18:16] <[Gentoo]> maybe they have icmp blocked
[18:16] <kurtwp> no
[18:16] <kurtwp> win 7 pc has no issue
[18:17] <compdoc> kurtwp, what OS is running on the remote servers?
[18:17] <kurtwp> everthing from solaris to redhat, opensuse
[18:18] <kurtwp> again the win7 pc next to the ubuntu pc has no issue access any of the devices
[18:18] <kurtwp> same nwtwork going to the same far end VPN ip
[18:18] <kurtwp> using Cisco Connect on win7
[18:19] <compdoc> kurtwp, if you run 'tcpdump -v icmp' on any of the linux servers that have the tcpdump program, I'm betting you will see that your pings are reaching the server
[18:19] <goddard> kurtwp: i had troubles setting up VPN on ubuntu as well
[18:19] <deepfunk> so i have installed virtual box, now what do i do next to create a virtual machine?
[18:20] <kurtwp> done that
[18:20] <kurtwp> no dice
[18:20] <kurtwp> not reaching
[18:20] <kurtwp> from the ubuntu PC
[18:20] <goddard> deepfunk: ask in the virtual box channel
[18:21] <[Gentoo]> deepfunk: just click new top left
[18:21] <[Gentoo]> then follow through the defaults will probably be ok, choose the iso to boot from
[18:21] <compdoc> kurtwp, then you arent connecting
[18:22] <kurtwp> I disagree I get an IP
[18:22] <deepfunk> kk tx
[18:22] <DougsTech> I want a taco
[18:22] <DougsTech> its lunch time
[18:22] <deepfunk> new top left?
[18:22] <whoever> deepfunk: if it is windows you will want ~250G for hd size , if anything else you can get way with about 50GB
[18:22] <deepfunk> i can't see it?
[18:22] <[Gentoo]> deepfunk: google it you will find millions of tutorials
[18:23] <whoever> deepfunk: top left of the virtalbox gui to create a new machine,
[18:23] <whoever> deepfunk: each os is a new madhine
[18:24] <deepfunk> oh kk
[18:24] <deepfunk> thank you
[18:25] <goddard> DougsTech: hook me up
[18:25] <goddard> ya just YouTube it
[18:25] <DougsTech> goddard, what about a 5 layer burrito?
[18:26] <goddard> DougsTech: that sounds bomb
[18:26] <bazhang> !ot | DougsTech goddard
[18:26] <DougsTech> lol
[18:28] <snowrichard> hi
[18:29] <goddard> snowrichard: no talking in the channel only questions
[18:30] <badass> guys I need some serious help
[18:30] <IdleOne> goddard: Please don't chase away users because they say hi or hello.
[18:30] <badass> no one more knowledgable than I has really dug into my issue as of yet
[18:30] <BluesKaj> badass, then ask your question
[18:31] <badass> and I would really appreciate it if someone could help, I've asked several times with no response
[18:31] <badass> I've posted on the forums: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2169477
[18:31] <goddard> IdleOne: Please stop talking in the chat room if you want to enforce you policy please use a private message
[18:31] <badass> I'm just hoping someone here will take the time to read
[18:31] <badass> I basically am having problems with the require_membership_of option in winbind.so in my pam.d configuration using samba
[18:32] <badass> it works the way it should, unless a user has the "user must change password at next logon" flag in Active Directory
[18:32] <badass> I feel like thats a HUGE flaw in the whole AD integration...
[18:34] <dennis> Hello
[18:34] <exidos> hello dennis
[18:35] <dennis> kann man hir auch normal deutsch reden oder ist die normale sprache englisch ??
[18:35] <exidos> normal englisch, ich kann aber deutsch, wie einige andere hier auch
[18:35] <sahil_> hello,my newly reinstalled system is broken after i did sudo dpkg -i *.deb,(debs were copied from var/cache/apt/archives.
[18:35] <exidos> @denn
[18:35] <exidos> dennis,
[18:35] <dennis> mann gut mein englisch ist zimlich kacke
[18:35] <sahil_> i tried to repair using synaptic but partially sucessfull
[18:36] <BluesKaj> in other words dennis , this is an english channel
[18:36] <exidos> dann lege mal los dennis, ich bin gleich nicht mehr da, wo liegt das Problem?
[18:37] <dennis> zu zeit habe ich keins aber danke der nach frage exidos
[18:37] <BluesKaj> exidos, you too :)
[18:37] <exidos> So we have to talk in english? BluesKaj
[18:37] <explodes> When I log in, it shows the temperature in Celsius, how do I show it in Fahrenheit?
[18:37] <kurtwp> I got working I used VPNC instead of the GUI crap
[18:38] <BluesKaj> explodes, yes unless you want to join  #ubuntu-de
[18:38] <exidos> ahh, okay, thx for information
[18:38] <explodes> BluesKaj: wrong dude
[18:39] <BluesKaj> explodes, I'm not a "dude" , so stop it please
[18:39] <BluesKaj> too ex 's here
[18:40] <BluesKaj> too many that is
[18:40] <exidos> :D
[18:40]  * blazemore had tea and crumpets for lunch
[18:40] <blazemore> a toast to the empire
[18:41] <BluesKaj> tea and crumpets is at teatime afaik
[18:41] <HackerII> lol
[18:42] <mikeliss> I've got an environment variable that I set up using /etc/environment, and now I want to change it without rebooting or logging out. Can that be done?
[18:44] <palebluedot> mikeliss: export var=value
[18:45] <mikeliss> palebluedot: That doesns't seem to do anything.
[18:46] <mikeliss> palebluedot: The value remains unchanged in other terminals
[18:46] <OerHeks> mikeliss, you need to repeat that in all terminals, AFAIK
[18:47] <POVaddct> mikeliss: environment variables are process specific. setting it in one process doesn't change it in others
[18:47] <POVaddct> mikeliss: and you cannot change the environment of already running processes from "outside"
[18:48] <dennis> jemand hir der mir vileicht helfen kann
[18:48] <POVaddct> dennis: english please
[18:48] <denker> do I need to turn of my computer to make my changes in xorg be applied?
[18:48] <denker> reboot
[18:49] <msbrown> denker: a simple logout/login *shuld* work
[18:49] <msbrown> should
[18:49] <mikeliss> POVaddct: So what's the way to change this kind of thing at runtime?
[18:49] <denker> msbrown ok, thx
[18:49] <mikeliss> I want to have multiple versions of my software on disk, and swap between them via a variable.
[18:50] <mikeliss> OerHeks: Well, I want this to affect all programs
[18:50] <blazemore> !de | dennis
[18:50] <blazemore> I apologise for my interesting crumpet-related anecdote earlier, it was intended for another channel.
[18:50] <raub> I swiched the minipci wifi card in my laptop with a intel 5100. lsmod shows iwlwifi up and network manager seels the wireless networks at work, but I do not seem to be able to connect
[18:51] <dennis> Hello can anyone help me and indeed how can I access it from ubuntu to windows to data to send over?
[18:52] <blazemore> dennis: Ask someone in #ubuntu-de for a better translation ;)
[18:52] <POVaddct> mikeliss: you can only change environment variables of already running processes if they have explicit support for that. like interactive shells. there is no generic method for changing environment of any process after it was started. the only way env vars are propagated automatically is inheriting them from parent process when a new process starts.
[18:52] <BluesKaj> over a network , dennis ?
[18:52] <whoever> dennis: tring to move data from ubuntu to windows? are you in a vm
[18:54] <Deas> smtp server; any1 can point me to a guide how you can config it?
[18:54] <whoever> BluesKaj: i guess dennis doesn't want our help ;-)
[18:54] <Pici> !smtp | Deas
[18:55] <BluesKaj> guess not whoever , he left
[18:57] <deepfunk> how can i join another channel?
[18:57] <wilee-nilee> deepfunk, /join #channel
[18:57] <bazhang> deepfunk, /join ##channel
[18:58] <deepfunk> i'm looking for a channel that can help me with programming c++ with code blocks
[18:58] <HackerII>  /list
[18:58] <Ari-Yang> !dist-upgrade
[18:58] <deepfunk> yes, i can look for it in a list but what should i look for? a coding channel?
[18:59] <wilee-nilee> !alis
[18:59] <BluesKaj> maybe #c++
[18:59] <bazhang>  /msg alis list *term* deepfunk
[18:59] <BluesKaj> oops
[19:00] <hid> hi all
[19:01] <uhelp> I am trying to install 12.04.2 on an HP DL585 and the monitor says Ubuntu selected a refresh rate outside its range.  How do I change the refresh rate from the command line?
[19:02] <hid> i'd like to have the number of files within a directory. i found the alias: echo $(ls -l | wc -l) but it does not work. Do someone know why?
[19:02] <uhelp> hid: ls also shows directories ... do you want the number of files and directories together?
[19:03] <hid> uhelp: only the number of files
[19:05] <POVaddct> find . -maxdepth 1 -type f | wc -l
[19:06] <uhelp> hid: use find instead (try man find)
[19:08] <OerHeks> ls -1 | wc -l
[19:08] <uhelp> hid: please also read up on hard links -- you might want them even if you think you only want files
[19:08] <Pici> OerHeks: that includes directories
[19:08] <solstice> hi. how can I boot archlinux with systemd from grub2 installed with ubuntu. right now it gives me a kernel panic. what needs to be done to fix that ?
[19:09] <uhelp> OerHeks, Pico: OerHeks and links and pipes and all the other not-a-regular-file objects
[19:10] <uhelp> is it a bug that ubuntu 12.04.2 install sets the screen refresh rate to an unusable number and then I can't install?
[19:10] <OerHeks> Pici that gives me files only,  no directory  and no hardlinks
[19:12] <hid> OerHeks: i understand now why it did not work. I typed l instead of 1 :/
[19:12] <OerHeks> Pici if i counted them right > http://picpaste.com/pics/list-sF348sch.1377198728.png
[19:12] <deepfunk> where can i study ubuntu?
[19:12] <hid> anyway than you all ;=)
[19:12] <deepfunk> learn more about the terminal and so on
[19:13] <bazhang> !manual | deepfunk
[19:13] <deepfunk> than you!
[19:13] <bazhang> !terminal | deepfunk
[19:13] <deepfunk> :)
[19:13] <Pici> OerHeks: I do not have the same behavior on my setup here.
[19:14] <Pici> OerHeks: actually, what its doing is showing you the number of folders.  -1 doesn't include dotfiles.
[19:14] <OerHeks> Pici uh oh, you might be right
[19:15] <Pici> OerHeks: also, whenever you pipe something out of ls, it gives you the -1 'view' automatically. See ls | cat  for example
[19:21] <columb> Would my ubuntu shutdown itself in case of overheat?
[19:22] <Ari-Yang> columb, when my laptop over heats, it does shutdown.
[19:22] <Ari-Yang> (I have ubuntu 12.10 installed on it)
[19:22] <Ari-Yang> columb, like when it shuts down, laptop scren goes black, ubuntu throws commands at you and says "critical temperature" or something and shuts off.
[19:23] <DarkSim_> I have some problems with Ubuntu 12.04, it suddenly has problems connecting to the internet
[19:23] <DarkSim_> Other computers in the network can access the internet just fine
[19:23] <columb> Ok, hope my cpu wouldn't overheat when I try to fix my fan (%
[19:24] <Biafra> DarkSim_, reboot to see if it helps
[19:24] <DarkSim_> Biafra, tried it, didnt' work
[19:24] <Biafra> DarkSim_, update the kernel recently?
[19:24] <DarkSim_> Nope
[19:24] <DarkSim_> It worked a few days ago
[19:25] <DarkSim_> and my parents don't even know how to update
[19:25] <DarkSim_> so that's impossible
[19:25]  * genii ponders duplicate static LAN numbers conflicting
[19:25] <DarkSim_> the network is set up dynamically
[19:25] <Biafra> Hmm... what driver does your wireless use on the problem computer, DarkSim_
[19:26] <DarkSim_> wireless?
[19:26] <DarkSim_> but it it's a wired connection
[19:26] <Biafra> Ohkay...
[19:26] <Biafra> Reboot router?
[19:26] <DarkSim_> it's literally feet from it
[19:26] <DarkSim_> even though other computers can use the router?
[19:26] <Biafra> Yeah... It can't hurt...
[19:26] <DarkSim_> Oh o
[19:26] <DarkSim_> I'll go black in a moment
[19:26] <Biafra> This eliminates the router from this issues
[19:27] <genii> DarkSim_: Can also try: sudo dhclient -r eth0 && sudo dhclient eth0
[19:27] <genii> To release/renew dhcp
[19:27] <K4k> Hi, I'm trying to configure postfix/sasl authentication and I keep getting the following error: warning: SASL authentication failure: unable to canonify user and get auxprops. I'm stumped, if someone could help I would be grateful
[19:28] <raub> uhelp: I think there is still an alternate version for 12.04, which should have low end screen/video requirements
[19:30] <DarkSim> Howdy again
[19:33] <uhelp> raub: what is that version called?
[19:35] <DarkSim> Biafra, I restarted the Gateway then it works again, thanks for the help :)
[19:36] <Biafra> DarkSim excellent
[19:37] <DarkSim> So it was just gateway related?
[19:37] <Biafra> Most likely.
[19:37] <DarkSim> Well...it is a crappy gateway
[19:37] <Biafra> Let me guess, ISP provided?
[19:37] <DarkSim> Got it
[19:38] <Biafra> They usually are.
[19:38] <BluesKaj> which router , DarkSim?
[19:38] <DarkSim> Some crappy Thomson
[19:38] <DarkSim> all Thomsons suck so sorry if I don't know the exact model :)
[19:38] <BluesKaj> never heard of it :)
[19:38] <DarkSim> Exactly
[19:39] <Biafra> Yeah... ActionTec is the sucky model for DSL over here, so I feel your pain
[19:40] <BluesKaj> mine quit last week , the ISP had a new one here in 18 hrs , 2wire ...not too bad for dsl
[19:41] <medo> hello world ! how i can restore my delete data ?
[19:42] <bazhang> !undelete | medo
[19:56] <isasha> anyone an xchat expert here?
[19:57] <isasha> I would like to enable baloon notifications, but only for one channel
[19:57] <OerHeks> isasha, not possible, it is a global setting
[19:58] <isasha> darn
[19:58] <isasha> is it possible to get some sort of notification for just one channel though? not beeping
[19:59] <bazhang> isasha, #xchat
[19:59] <DrahKeN_> help
[19:59] <isasha> thx
[19:59] <DrahKeN_> n/m wrong window
[20:02] <oana> Hello, does anyone know a safe method to install nvidia drivers for ubuntu 13.04? I tried sudo su apt-get update apt-get dist-upgrade apt-get install build-essential apt-get install linux-headers-generic  apt-get nvidia-current nvidia-xconfig
[20:02] <oana> and it didn't go on so well...
[20:03] <oana> my unity stopped working and had to remove the drivers
[20:03] <bazhang> oana, you never use sudo su, for one
[20:03] <oana> so is there a safe way to install them>
[20:03] <oana> I know I was just too lazy to type sudo before every command in that one
[20:03] <bazhang> oana, the root account is not enabled
[20:04] <jgornick> Hey guys, if I'm building a package to install my web application on an ubuntun 12.04 server, what would be the best approach to check for a virtual host setup in apache for my app and either add or update it?
[20:04] <bazhang> oana, sudo -i for a root shell
[20:04] <reisio> did you read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia ?
[20:05] <oana> yes, additional drivers are not shown there
[20:05] <oana> tried the jockey console thing too
[20:07] <reduz> hi guys Question. How does one install 32 bit libraries for cross compiling to 32 bits binaries under 64 bits ubuntu? If i try to install the :i386 versions, the 64 bits ones get removed
[20:07] <holstein> reduz: i would dual boot, virtualize or chroot
[20:08] <reduz> holstein, compiling works fine, but linking fails due to lack of 32 bits libraries
[20:12] <ntzrmtthihu777> question: is there an ubuntu-gnome channel like #xubuntu?
[20:13] <nick__> d
[20:13] <trism> ntzrmtthihu777: #ubuntu-gnome
[20:13] <nick__> #xfce
[20:14] <Guest97383> m
[20:14] <bazhang> ntzrmtthihu777, use alis to fine one
[20:18] <ironfoot495> Hello I'm in desperate need of someone who can help configure pear on my ubunu 10.04.4 box.
[20:18] <ironfoot495> ubuntu box
[20:18] <ntzrmtthihu777> !eol | ironfoot495
[20:19] <ironfoot495> so does hat mean there isd no help???
[20:19] <Nach0z> 10.04 should never EOL
[20:19] <Nach0z> it's too stable
[20:20] <ntzrmtthihu777> Nach0z: should and is are two different things, unfortunatly. I loved lucid, its what got me started on ubuntu, but alas!
[20:20] <booh> I install a fresh new dedicated ubuntu postfix server.   Which solution is the best for spam filtering and viruses filtering ?  and/or additionnal packages I should install  (smtp auth for offsite users... but not inside ones)
[20:20] <mladoux> ironfoot495, not necessarily, it just means you shouldn't expect any.
[20:20] <ntzrmtthihu777> booh: no idea about spam, but clamav is good.
[20:20] <ironfoot495> mladoux: When writing php scripts I run into problem configuring???
[20:20] <ntzrmtthihu777> mladoux: holy crap, is that you?
[20:21] <wilee-nilee> ironfoot495, You don't have access to the main repos as well.
[20:21] <mladoux> ironfoot495, really, what was the issue you're having?
[20:21] <cff9> does anyone here see a 'problem' with cloning my hardrive to SSD?
[20:21] <mladoux> ntzrmtthihu777, no, it's some other korekame
[20:21] <reisio> cff9: with "cloning" I do, yes
[20:21] <wilee-nilee> cff9, Nope not if done correctly.
[20:21] <reisio> cff9: with copying in general, no
[20:21] <ntzrmtthihu777> mladoux: XD never ran into you here before, lol. howya doing man XD
[20:21] <cff9> thanks reisio - i mean using clonezilla and putting my partition on a new SSD drive
[20:21] <mladoux> fine, I'm in and out ntzrmtthihu777 I generally don't hang out here anymore because I get busy.
[20:22] <booh> cff9, should work.
[20:22] <reisio> cff9: I would use rsync or tar -cf & tar -xp :)
[20:22] <wilee-nilee> cff9, I did it with 4 OS with no problems
[20:22] <ntzrmtthihu777> mladoux: I understand that, lol. I come here a few times every other week or so.
[20:22] <cff9> wilee-nilee - ok thanks.....what did u use? Clonezilla? Ext4?
[20:22] <wilee-nilee> cff9, but as you see there are seceral options
[20:22] <wilee-nilee> several
[20:22] <ironfoot495> mladoux: I've come across a book called Foundations of PEAR and I'm trying to use the Auth and XML conversion scripts and I keep coming up with tremendous errors:(
[20:22] <wilee-nilee> cff9, clonezilla
[20:23] <booh> cff9, maybe you will have to adjust (after cloning) with a live cd and diskpartd
[20:23] <cff9> wilee-nilee - thanks - i guess my concern was something i read about 'trimming' which i am still researching
[20:23] <mladoux> ironfoot495, what are the errors? put them here --> paste.ubuntu.com
[20:23] <booh> (adjusting the size of your partition I mean)
[20:23] <mladoux> ironfoot495, depending on the errors, you might have better luck in #php
[20:23] <ironfoot495> xcrossing and rewriting trees o get php to see !!!
[20:24] <wilee-nilee> cff9, With clonezilla the partiions adding the clone to have to of equal size or bigger than the original is all, and the same ext#
[20:24] <wilee-nilee> be*
[20:24] <mladoux> ironfoot495, can you paste the actual errors into a pastbin for me?
[20:25] <booh>  With clonezilla the partiions adding the clone to have to of equal size or bigger than the original is all, and the same ext# <--- You can resize lower the source partition before cloning... with live cd and diskpartd
[20:25] <wilee-nilee> cff9, If the partition numbers differ you can change them to match in the clone.
[20:25] <cff9> wilee - nilee - i guess i just have to try and see! I wonder what the speed difference is....boot time will be faster but general usage dont know - might not be too much....
[20:25] <cff9> right - need to make sure same /partition/
[20:25] <booh> grrrrrr not diskpartd but gpartd.
[20:26] <wilee-nilee> cff9, Big difference here in boot and speed big is an opinion though.
[20:26] <Kalel> How to make a samsung phone be recognized by windows in VirtualBox from ubuntu 13.04
[20:26] <Kalel> ?
[20:26] <mladoux> ironfoot495, also, you might want to try upgrading your ubuntu... it may be that the issues you are having can be fixed with a newer version. Or it's possible, and highly likely, that you've merely misconfigured something, either through your own error, or through an error in your resource material.
[20:26] <wilee-nilee> Kalel, #vbox
[20:27] <cff9> wilee-nilee - out of interest what size u have for SSD? they seem very expensive
[20:27] <wilee-nilee> Kalel, You add the usb in vbox
[20:27] <wilee-nilee> cff9, 256 gigs
[20:27] <cff9> im thinkikng 128gig will do me since i dont store much media on this machine
[20:27] <litropy> Is there a PCI event log?
[20:27] <cff9> ok thanks
[20:28] <Kalel> yes, a empty filter. The phone wasn't recognized in 'pc-studio' mode
[20:28] <Kalel> in ubuntu
[20:28] <reduz> ok, properly cross compiling to 32 bits in 64 bits ubuntu is impossible
[20:28] <wilee-nilee> cff9, Be sure to shop and get one up to industry standards
[20:28] <ironfoot495> mladoux: `ok holdon! Are you sure that this paste is right???
[20:29] <cff9> wilee-nilee - right - 100% want to make sure get best one i can
[20:29] <ntzrmtthihu777> Kalel: I tried this with another usb device (printer) needed to get a vbox expansion pack (not to be confused with guest addtions), iirc it was not available in the free version of vbox.
[20:29] <mladoux> ironfoot495, I won't be sure till I see it.
[20:29] <booh> cff9: normaly, ssd is for OS and you add a second conventional drive for storing datas...
[20:30] <wilee-nilee> ntzrmtthihu777, The vbox site has it and it is a free version
[20:30] <ironfoot495> paste.ubuntu.paste???
[20:30] <cff9> wilee-nilee, im referring to my laptop here....its actually 32 bit, kinda wish it was 64
[20:30] <Kalel> I have the extra pack installed.
[20:30] <booh> for laptop ssh is very nice... extend battery too :)
[20:31] <wilee-nilee> cff9, does not really matter 32 or 64, the ssd does not care
[20:31] <booh> for laptop SSD is very nice... extend battery too :)
[20:31] <ntzrmtthihu777> cff9: yep. I'd like a ssd for this little machine, lol. its very nice, but a ssd would only make it nicer. Especially since it only has 160gb anyways :P
[20:31] <cff9> wilee-nilee, booh, yeah i didnt think about batt life, good point
[20:31] <mladoux> oh, the ubuntu pastebin appears to be down...
[20:32] <mladoux> ironfoot495, ubuntu's pastebin appears to be down, use this one --> http://pastebin.mozilla.org/
[20:32] <litropy> I'm pretty sure I have an intermittent short in my internals, because when I press a certain spot on my laptop, both my wifi card and my internal SD card reader reset. They're both PCI, which is why I'm wondering if there is a PCI event log.
[20:32] <Kalel> ntzrmtthihu777: Shoud I install another pack to conect my smartphone?
[20:33] <ntzrmtthihu777> Kalel: dunno about the particulars for smartphones+vbox, sorry.
[20:33] <ironfoot495> mladoux: ok here's the deal I've tried other distro's but I have always had good luck working with ubuntu 10.04.4 but I really need positive direction dealiong with the PEAR extensions expecialy http and Auth.
[20:33] <ntzrmtthihu777> in any case I've just installed a new de, logout time!
[20:34] <ironfoot495> I guess I need plenty of patients:).
[20:35] <mladoux> ironfoot495, I'm not saying to change distro, I'm just saying you might want to seriously consider upgrading as 10.04 no longer gets updates, and will get more insecure over time as new exploits are found. If you want stability, I'd recommend an LTS release like 12.04.
[20:35] <wilee-nilee> ironfoot495, I would install a supported version the troubles in getting help, no acess to the main repos and the security risks are not worth it.
[20:36] <mladoux> 10.04 is still supported, I think, but not for much longer.
[20:36] <wilee-nilee> just not a smart move
[20:36] <wilee-nilee> mladoux, only the server
[20:36] <k1l> mladoux: it is not supported for desktop anymore
[20:36] <mladoux> k1l, yeah, I wasn't sure, but he's talking php, so I was thinking he's running the server.
[20:37] <mladoux> ironfoot495, anyway, I don't know if I can fix your issue or not, not without a copy of the errors you recieved.
[20:37] <ironfoot495> mladoux: these are just a few from hundreds I've been wiading through!!!.
[20:38] <ironfoot495> mladoux: wait one sending!!!.
[20:38] <mladoux> thank you ironfoot495
[20:40] <ironfoot495> wilee-nilee: I comply~~~~!!.
[20:40] <ironfoot495> mladoux: Well???.
[20:40] <mladoux> where's the link?
[20:40] <mladoux> you made the paste, I'm assuming, but you never linked it to me, so I have no idea.
[20:41] <meli> ciao
[20:41] <Dictator> hello friends
[20:41] <meli> !list
[20:41] <mladoux> ironfoot495, it's not like I can see your paste without the url to click on.
[20:41] <ironfoot495> ofcourse I don't think you can at one setting figure it out but I really appreciate the fast response. Than\k you.
[20:42] <ironfoot495> mladoux:  is there a more effecient way???.
[20:42] <Dictator> what is a lightweight simple app to set up a daily schedule
[20:42] <ironfoot495> tyalkj to me?.
[20:42] <mladoux> you make a paste at a pastebin, copy the url, and then paste the url here.
[20:42] <mladoux> ironfoot495, ^^
[20:42] <Pici> !paste
[20:42] <ironfoot495> ok
[20:44] <wilee-nilee> ironfoot495, Not sure what I comply means, but no respectable helper here will help you. ;)
[20:44] <wilee-nilee> other than in upgrading
[20:44] <wilee-nilee> if you had a legit reason maybe
[20:45] <mladoux> wilee-nilee, depending on what it is, I might, you know, for fun, but I will of course seriously recommend he upgrade.
[20:45] <wilee-nilee> mladoux, You should not be period.
[20:46] <wilee-nilee> thats like fixing a windows system that has had badware, when it should be reinstalled
[20:46] <mladoux> wilee-nilee, well, he is asking for help with a server issue, ( being a php/pear thing ) and 10.04. is still supported for that, so yeah.
[20:46] <wilee-nilee> It's called enabling
[20:46] <mladoux> meh... I still use DOS for things. lol
[20:46] <wilee-nilee> anyway none of my bisnezz
[20:47] <Xentinel> I think I screwed up my network-manager service, it doesn't start with Ubuntu anymore, and I'm not sure what kind of runlevel it's supposed to have, any help?
[20:47] <mladoux> I'm not gonna help him with non-server issues, or anything not supported.
[20:48] <mladoux> anyway, he still hasn't shared the errors with me, so it's not going anywhere anyhow.
[20:49] <mladoux> Xentinel, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkManager
[20:49] <ironfoot495> mladoux:  I've got a telephone call b back!!!
[20:50] <Dictator> what is a lightweight simple app to set up a daily schedule
[20:51] <wilee-nilee> Xentinel, The channel "not me" needs the details leading up to this.
[20:52] <wilee-nilee> !cron | Dictator
[20:52] <resc_user_2889> hello?
[20:52] <resc_user_2889> anyone had any grub problems?
[20:53] <wilee-nilee> resc_user_2889, address the issues for help in the channel.
[21:00] <PapaSierra> i have a need to add a user with with no password and only if that user doesn't exist
[21:01] <PapaSierra> also, since it's happening remotely i cannot answer all the "what is your name", etc. and correct Y/n? so i need to bypass that stuff
[21:02] <wilee-nilee> PapaSierra, Have them use the guest account, you can have a password and autologin.
[21:02] <wilee-nilee> or*
[21:03] <wilee-nilee> PapaSierra, not sure what you stae makes any sense
[21:03] <wilee-nilee> state
[21:04] <PapaSierra> yeah, so i'm writing a script that connects over ssh and creates a user account on a remote server. but only if it doesn't already exist. and also, i don't want password login. it must just be a locked account
[21:05] <wilee-nilee> little closer to making sense, lol, not sure here.
[21:06] <Mike9863> I am trying to ssh tunnel with an Ubuntu server I have. I have connected to the server with ssh -C -D 8080 name@ip and set my browser to use a Socks V5 proxy at 127.0.0.1:8080, however for some reason my connection seems to freeze when I try doing something. The terminal session freezes and pages do not load when I use the proxy. Once I stop using the proxy my terminal session unfreezes. Any ideas?
[21:08] <PapaSierra> wilee-nilee: something like:  id -u somename &>/dev/null || useradd somename
[21:10] <eph3meral> hmm, how can I change my resolution? I believe I may have installed and activated compiz - I just installed kubuntu-desktop as well as regular ubuntu-desktop from an xubuntu install because of hard crashes in xfce
[21:10] <eph3meral> the only resolutions I see in the display control panel in unity are 800x600 and 1024x768 but a few minutes ago I was running 1920x1080
[21:16] <snarky_handle> hi. anyone good with setting up nfs? I have the server side working, but am having difficulties with making an fstab entry
[21:16] <zykotick9> snarky_handle: what is your fstab line?
[21:17] <PapaSierra> fwiw: id -u bob &>/dev/null || useradd --create-home --home /home/bob --shell /bin/bash -U bob
[21:17] <basant> hey everyone what happens if a cron job fails
[21:17] <basant> can I somehow set it to try again ?
[21:17] <snarky_handle> 192.168.5.2:/media/xx/public/ home/*/public nfs rw,hard,intr    0 0
[21:18] <zykotick9> snarky_handle: your missing / on /home
[21:18] <snarky_handle> oh yeah i just messed up the paste here
[21:18] <snarky_handle> it's in fstab
[21:18] <zykotick9> snarky_handle: i also just use "defaults" for the option, where you have rw,hard,intr
[21:19] <snarky_handle> i have tried defaults too but it didn't work before. I can try it again though
[21:19] <star_prone_> does anyone know if teamviewer for linux uses wine?
[21:20] <snarky_handle> mm do I have to reboot every time for the changes to take place?
[21:20] <zykotick9> snarky_handle: you can use "mount -a" to refresh, and see if there are error(s)
[21:20] <star_prone_> I have installed teamviewer and I see that ps -ef will find a proccess called: c:\TeamViewer\TeamViewer.exe
[21:21] <snarky_handle> zykotick9: doesn't give errors
[21:21] <zykotick9> snarky_handle: so, did it mount?
[21:21] <snarky_handle> cool it mounts, but with no permissions for me
[21:22] <wilee-nilee> star_prone_, https://www.teamviewer.com/en/download/linux.aspx
[21:22] <zykotick9> snarky_handle: nfs uses "real" permission, so check what the permission on the server are.  if your UID don't match between the two systems, there are further complications.
[21:24] <snarky_handle> zykotick9:  /media/xx/public/ 192.168.5.0/24(rw,no_root_squash,async,insecure,anonuid=1000,anongid=1000) is my /etc/exports
[21:24] <ironfoot495> mladoux: ok now what was the instructions you had for me?
[21:24] <zykotick9> snarky_handle: ummm, that's beyond me.  i just use the filesystem permissions.  best of luck - i don't have any further suggestions.
[21:24] <snarky_handle> zykotick9:  uid=1000(*) gid=1000(*) Gruppen=1000(*),4(adm),24(cdrom),27(sudo),30(dip),46(plugdev),104(fuse),109(lpadmin),124(sambashare),127(davfs2),1001(jupiter) is my id on client side
[21:24] <snarky_handle> oh ok
[21:25] <snarky_handle> thanks for the mount -a
[21:25] <zykotick9> :)
[21:28] <snarky_handle> zykotick9: so if the server had my username associated with the same UID as on my client, it could "just work"?
[21:28] <zykotick9> snarky_handle: does for me.
[21:28] <snarky_handle> huh
[21:29] <zykotick9> snarky_handle: be aware, changing UID can cause issues...  (i always make sure my UID is the same on all my boxes)
[21:29] <snarky_handle> zykotick9:  yeah no I won't on the client
[21:34] <dgarstang> need a little help with debian/install file...
[21:35] <gry> dgarstang: hi.
[21:35] <gry> dgarstang: just ask.
[21:35] <gry> dgarstang: assuming you're asking about something with Ubuntu — otherwise there is a #debian channel here.
[21:35] <dgarstang> gry: kk. I've got a mkdir /usr/local/packer in the install file... fakeroot doesn't like it...
[21:36] <dgarstang> gry: "cp: cannot stat `debian/tmp/mkdir': No such file or directory"
[21:37] <dgarstang> gry: can't find docs on exactly what's allowed in debian/install file
[21:38] <dgarstang> or, more generally, how do I build packages and install to a location of my choosing
[21:39] <TheGodlyProxy> hello
[21:39] <TheGodlyProxy> everyone
[21:39] <samruda>  i tried installing my customized ubuntu(windows xp and ubuntu pre installed  ), but it did not work. Then i tried to load my windows its now throwing an error saying that "no such device , no such partition, you need to load the kernel first". can anyone help me out in this?
[21:40] <basant> what is a good client autosync thing with lots of space for ubuntu. something like dropbox / google drive client on windows ( apart from ubuntu one )
[21:40] <k1l> dgarstang: there is #ubuntu-packaging
[21:40] <TheGodlyProxy> did u fromat ur drive ther right way
[21:40] <dgarstang> k1l: k
[21:41] <xangua> basant: ubuntu one is also aviable for windows, and so are dropbox and google drive on ubuntu
[21:41] <eph3meral> I'm having resolution problems on anything other than kernel patch 27
[21:41] <eph3meral> 19 and 29 give me low resolution, anyone know what might be going on with this?
[21:42] <basant> xangua, I want a client for google drive. is it available on uubntu  ?
[21:42] <basant> also it is has less space
[21:43] <xangua> basant: there is an unnoficial google drive client http://www.webupd8.org/2013/07/google-drive-client-insync-for-linux.html
[21:44] <eph3meral> where do I go to install nvidia drivers in kubuntu? google doesn't seem to know :/
[21:44] <HackerII> why dont you use nvidia-current
[21:44] <basant> xangua, also ( looking for advice) . I need a good syncing client which gives me the best possible space ( 10 gigs ?  ) for free . Any recommends ?
[21:45] <k1l> eph3meral: install the packages from the ubuntu repos.
[21:45] <k1l> eph3meral: dont load anything from websites
[21:45] <HackerII> ^
[21:47] <adamsilver> was anybody able to use apple cinema display (no thunderbolt) on a pc laptop running ubuntu?
[21:47] <pepper_chico> http://askubuntu.com/questions/335489/is-there-a-way-to-define-a-hotkey-to-solely-unhide-the-launcher
[21:48] <Mike9863> I am trying to ssh tunnel with an Ubuntu server I have. I have connected to the server with ssh -C -D 8080 name@ip and set my browser to use a Socks V5 proxy at 127.0.0.1:8080, however for some reason my connection seems to freeze when I try doing something. The terminal session freezes and pages do not load when I use the proxy. Once I stop using the proxy my terminal session unfreezes. Any ideas?
[21:48] <pepper_chico> I guess that ^ is too hardcoded to be customized...
[21:53] <TimeStamp> joing /#area31
[21:53] <TimeStamp> join /#area31
[21:58] <bobbyd_> pepper_chico, holding the windows key will show it
[21:58] <basant> how do I send a ubuntu one invite to someone
[21:58] <pepper_chico> bobbyd_, I think you haven't read the limitations…, holding is not an option
[21:59] <pepper_chico> bobbyd_, but anyway, are you with 13.04?
[22:00] <pepper_chico> I'd just like to know whether holding Super continues to show the shortcut list, as in 12
[22:00] <pepper_chico> but just to know, I know it won't work at my setup
[22:00] <pepper_chico> I looking for a click shortcut
[22:02] <OerHeks> basant,  just send the referrals link which can be found in the Ubuntu One dashboard
[22:03] <basant> OerHeks, I am trying to locate where the said dashboard is
[22:03] <basant> OerHeks, also can I use ubuntu one from lubuntu
[22:04] <OerHeks> https://one.ubuntu.com/dashboard/
[22:04] <tharkun> Mike9863: " my connection seems to freeze when I try doing something." Isn't that a bit ambigous. Could you state more facts, like what proxy are you using ...
 Also setting a vpn might be better for your purposes </wag>
[22:05] <Mike9863> tharkun: I am using the ssh tunnel as a proxy. When I try to go to a website in Chromium when I'm using the tunnel as a proxy, the page doesn't load and the shell freezes
[22:05] <linuxnewb> 12.04 libdvdread4 and libdvdcss2 installed, region set correctly but STILL my DVDs won't play... VLC sees the disc and starts to play but it's the ageold green screen and choppy sound
[22:06] <linuxnewb> any ideas?
[22:07] <OerHeks> basant lubuntu, never tried U1 on it, honestly
[22:07] <tharkun> Mike9863: a proxy is a different beast than a simple ssh tunnel. If you need a hammer get yourself one, if you need a proxy get yourself a proxy.
[22:07] <tharkun> Mike9863: Anyway set up your proxy of choice on the remote server establish an ssh tunnel to connect to the proxy and bingo you are done.
[22:07] <Mike9863> tharkun: tharkun I have done this many times. I am connecting to the server with -D so I can use the tunnel as a proxy.
[22:08] <tharkun> the ssh tunnel alone will not o the trick
[22:08] <Ari-Yang> linuxnewb, try out another player?
[22:08] <Ari-Yang> like totem, just to see if it plays fine
[22:08] <Ari-Yang> and if it does try out mplayer or mplayer 2, linuxnewb
[22:09] <tharkun> Mike9863: ssh -vvv will spit out a lot of info if you want to use the SOCKS proxy of ssh yet I do prefer privoxy or other kind of specialized tool
[22:10] <snarky_handle> linuxnewb: try another DVD?
[22:10] <Mike9863> tharkun: An extra tool isn't necessary for what I want to do. I just want to use the server as a proxy and a simple ssh tunnel is the easiest way to do it. I've been doing it for years, however for some reason the shell is now freezing when I do it. I'm trying to find out why.
[22:10] <linuxnewb> cheers, other players behave similarly as do other discs
[22:11] <tharkun> Mike9863: -vvv on ssh should give you a hint
[22:11] <Mike9863> tharkun: Alright I'll try that
[22:11] <tharkun> Also check for selinux on either end. It is sometimes a pain to debug
[22:14] <snarky_handle> linuxnewb: did you try this? http://superuser.com/questions/227528/how-to-fix-choppy-video-with-vlc-player
[22:14] <AleXa> I put some bash scripts under Session and Startup, Application Autostart. Once the PC's started, how can I kill the running script?
[22:14] <linuxnewb> yep :(
[22:15] <linuxnewb> I've been searching terms for the last three days
[22:15] <linuxnewb> for hours
[22:16] <AleXa> Anyone ready to help?
[22:16] <snarky_handle> linuxnewb: such is the life of a n00b ;)
[22:16]  * linuxnewb installs debian
[22:17] <lonewulf85> Hey everyone how do I install a partition from the terminal?
[22:18] <linuxnewb> fdisk
[22:18] <linuxnewb> lonewulf85: fdisk
[22:18] <snarky_handle> linuxnewb: do you get anything on the command line? and with --debug or --verbose?
[22:18] <lonewulf85> linuxnewb, fdisk and then?
[22:18] <snarky_handle> lonewulf85: sudo fdisk
[22:18] <Guest42961> guys please help.. after a lot of work I got my new 13.04 installation that way I like it (compiz, wobbly windows, rotating cube.. all software etc) and it ran fine for a month then yesterday after a reboot I'm screwed... display is at 640x480 windows have no borders or title bars.. unity is missing... etc.. how can i fix this? I am booted into liveCD rt now.. please help!
[22:18] <phdjsep> I have a question regarding a screenshot I've take while running xvfb and firefox. I have a selenium test that hangs. I've taken a screenshot with xwd, converted it, and it seems that there is an alert. The alert however has all its text blacked out. Anyone know how to resolve this?
[22:19] <linuxnewb> lonewulf85: sorry, I misspoke, I meant 'man fdisk'
[22:19] <AleXa> Guest42961, what do you see on your screen?
[22:20] <Guest42961> AleXa, just my desktop with icons and my chosen background
[22:20] <Guest42961> AleXa, resolution is very low.. normally i have 2560x1600
[22:20] <Guest42961> AleXa, it seems after a update.. nvidia driver was uninstalled or something
[22:20] <neonlight> exit
[22:21] <linuxnewb> Guest, I was just about to say
[22:21] <Guest42961> linuxnewb, how do i reinstall?
[22:21] <linuxnewb> sudo apt-get purge nameofpackage-that-you-updated-with
[22:21] <Guest42961> linuxnewb, i cant get to another tty (by ctrl+alt 1)
[22:21] <Guest42961> linuxnewb, i did the Ubuntu update
[22:22] <linuxnewb> guest: tail -n25 /var/log/apt/history.log
[22:23] <Guest42961> linuxnewb, i am booted into liveCD.. so i should mount the drive and do it under there.. rt?
[22:23] <AleXa> Guest42961, I do not update every time there is new update, because of the instability of graphic drivers. But when I do, I first write down my graphic driver version and kernel version, so I could install the same version if anything goes wrong.
[22:23] <XMLnewbi> so i just bought a new VPS, installed phpmyadmin, and right on top of my user menu I have this, http://i.imgur.com/F5hGKEA.jpg     three accounts without passwords and one as a wild card, why are they here? can I remove them?
[22:24] <linuxnewb> yer... although display's to shit, you still have option to run terminal, right?
[22:24] <linuxnewb> boot to hda
[22:24] <linuxnewb> run command given
[22:24] <linuxnewb> work out name of package from that
[22:24] <linuxnewb> purge it
[22:24] <linuxnewb> reboot
[22:24] <linuxnewb> maybe it works :D
[22:25] <bobbob> hi, can i change over/underscan on the open source radeon driver ubuntu 13.04?
[22:25] <Guest42961> linuxnewb, http://fpaste.org/34154/72103031/
[22:25] <Guest42961> AleXa, i know the driver and version.. but how do i install it
[22:26] <Guest42961> AleXa, i cant get to a terminal outside of X environment.. cant get to grub
[22:26] <phdjsep> Anyone have an idea?
[22:26] <linuxnewb> so it happened on the 20th?
[22:26] <Guest42961> linuxnewb, yeah.. exactly
[22:26] <Guest42961> linuxnewb, new kernel installed i see
[22:27] <Guest42961> linuxnewb, and the nvidia driver has to be built to that kernel
[22:27] <AleXa> Guest42961, try to reach the GRUB holding shift or left ctrl on PC restart. Works for me.
[22:27] <Guest42961> linuxnewb, should i purge that?
[22:28] <linuxnewb> nein
[22:28] <Guest42961> AleXa, holding shift doesnt help.. will try with left ctrl
[22:28] <Guest42961> nein?
[22:28] <linuxnewb> don't purge
[22:28] <linuxnewb> AleXa is on to something
[22:28] <linuxnewb> boot to old kernel
[22:28] <AleXa> exactly
[22:28] <Guest42961> linuxnewb, if only i can get to grub
[22:28] <AleXa> or to get simply root controll
[22:29] <bobbob> I cant find any over/underscan settings for the default radeon driver//
[22:29] <Guest42961> is there a way to default to grub
[22:29] <linuxnewb> sudo gedit /etc/default/grub
[22:29] <AleXa> Guest42961, why don't you try pressing ctrl + alt +F1 after loading everything?
[22:29] <linuxnewb> o, sorry, you mean to SEE GRUB at boot?
[22:29] <Guest42961> AleXa, nothing happens with that.. it doesnt open a tty
[22:29] <Guest42961> linuxnewb, yeah
[22:30] <linuxnewb> from askubuntu: For permanent change you'll need to edit your /etc/default/grub file -- place a "#" symbol at the start of line GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT=0.
[22:30] <snarky_handle> Guest42961: press shift at boot
[22:30] <linuxnewb> but while booting you could hold shift
[22:32] <Guest42961> linuxnewb, snarky_handle shift is not working.. i am trying the other solution changed /etc/default/grub.. rebooting with fingers crossed... thanks guys if i dont see you again
[22:32] <linuxnewb> 42961 you're on a second device?
[22:32] <Guest42961> nope same machine booted with livecd
[22:32] <KI7MT> Hello all, can someone point me to an "Ubuntu: XDM Base specification / blueprint regarding the use of  ~/.local and ~/.config , what the diffs are and how to use them when writing scripts?
[22:33] <linuxnewb> so how are you holding shift at boot and I'm still seeing you in here? :P
[22:33] <Guest42961> lol.. no i tried all of that before coming on chat
[22:33] <linuxnewb> oooo
[22:33] <linuxnewb> gotchya
[22:33] <Guest42961> going now
[22:33] <linuxnewb> good luck
[22:34] <AleXa> good luck
[22:34] <AleXa> he's gone
[22:37] <basant> how do I find ubuntu system tools and other menus in 12.04
[22:37] <basant> ?
[22:38] <bobbob> This is crazy, how is a new ubuntu user meant to adjust over/underscan on the default radeon driver!? Had to use xrandr --output DVI-0 --set underscan on --set "underscan hborder" 45 --set "underscan vborder" 45 !!!
[22:41] <bobbob> try telling that to granny over the phone ;)
[22:42] <geekstay> Hi everyone. I've a problem with "FN" on my keyboard. When I want to control volum with FN, it controls volume of my hdmi output and not my speaker/integrated output. I'm using Xubuntu. (Unity installed with XFCE)
[22:42] <KI7MT> basant, hit / tap the "super key / aka windows key" once and type in what your looking for, or you can use the command line. What app / program you need?
[22:43] <magdur> guys how can i use and what can i use lamp?
[22:43] <AleXa> geekstay, which version of Xubuntu?
[22:44] <magdur> lamp: linux apache msql php
[22:44] <reisio> magdur: hrmm?
[22:44] <linuxnewb> did 42961 come back? :-P
  ?
[22:44] <mdev> using ubuntu 12 sudo apt-get install noip2 doesn't work
[22:45] <mdev> neither does sudo apt-get install noip or sudo apt-get install no-ip
[22:45] <mdev> what gives?
[22:45] <reisio> magdur: what are you asking?
[22:46] <KI7MT> apt-carch search pull NULL on all those apps, sure the name is right?
[22:46] <KI7MT> apt-cache .. .. .
   firstly, i try installing wamp on windows8 but i had some problem later i installed lamp (linux apache msql php) and now i succesfully instal it but i dont know it is using what for ?
[22:47] <AleXa> linuxnewb, not as far as I see
[22:48] <KI7MT> mdev, here is a post about it: bit old though: http://askubuntu.com/questions/184704/the-noip2-no-ip-com-package-was-deleted-from-the-repository-now-what
[22:49] <linuxnewb> then we can assume it worked :-P
[22:50] <reisio> magdur: I don't know what you mean... are you trying to find something to use your web server for?
[22:50] <mathias__> hello everyone! i have a problem with my thinkpad x200. unity completely freezes after startup (approx. 2-10mins after boot). i can only use the mouse and there is no way to restart the xorg server. last changes on system were: upgrade to latest kernel and update on intel gfx driver via intel gfx installer. what can i do now in order to fix this issue? my system is completly useless. even the 2d gnome fallback mode does not help... latest 
[22:50] <reisio> magdur: like what things you can do with it?
  ?actually me to i dont know what do i want do
[22:51] <geekstay> Hi everyone. I've a problem with "FN" on my keyboard. When I want to control volum with FN, it controls volume of my hdmi output and not my speaker/integrated output. I'm using Xubuntu. (Unity installed with XFCE)
[22:51] <linuxnewb> lol mathias we just had somethinf similar. hold down shift at boot to get grub and load old kernel
[22:51] <reisio> magdur: ...what?
[22:52] <reisio> geekstay: you use you hdmi output audio at all?
  actually me to i dont know that what i want do
[22:52] <reisio> magdur: so... are you looking for something interesting to do with a web server?
[22:52] <linuxnewb> magdur - read a magazine and get some inspiration
[22:53] <mathias__> ok. instead of loading .29 i will load .27 now... but i doubt it will work ... -_-'
[22:53] <reisio> geekstay: sounds like you eithe want to reconfigure the X volume up shortcut in some fashion, or just remap it to a script that controls pulseaudio's master volume
[22:53] <linuxnewb> of you doubt the advice, why ask? ;-)
[22:53] <geekstay> reisio : No. When I go on control volume in "Output Device" and want to change volume, I see the control volume of HDMI output, not internal.
 propably you are right
 have you any suggestion ?
[22:54] <geekstay> I prefer to understand where I can change it.
[22:54] <mathias__> no! thanks for the advice! i rly appreciate it!
[22:54] <linuxnewb> yer, media. stream it.
[22:54] <mathias__> but i try to solve the problem for hours.. everytime i think it works it crashes once again. i am quite pessimistic now. sorry
[22:55] <linuxnewb> np - been there
[22:56] <linuxnewb> mathias: tweet me the results @linuxnewb
[23:00] <ntzrmtthihu777> heyo, issue with compiz+gnome-session-fallback; the indicator-applet-complete consistently crashes when using compiz instead of metacity
[23:00] <mathias__> linuxnewb: my system is frozen once again.. kernel fallback did not work
[23:03] <pepper_chico> http://askubuntu.com/questions/335489/is-there-a-way-to-define-a-hotkey-to-solely-unhide-the-launcher
[23:03] <pepper_chico> I guess that ^ is too hardcoded to be customized...
[23:04] <AleXa> what does hardcoded mean anyway? closed source or similar?
[23:05] <pepper_chico> AleXa, no configuration to customize it
[23:06] <adamsilver> What are the benefits of using Ubuntu on web servers over Debian?
[23:06] <meaustin> AleXa: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hard_coding
[23:10] <hdd3> hello can somebody help me mounting an external disc, it wont show up anymore suddenly ...????
[23:10] <aki_> hi
[23:10] <linuxnewb> does it appear when you do fdisk -l
[23:11] <gorgonzo1a> hello all! i just got a new lenovo machine (excited :D ) and need some advise on partitioning schemes... firts of all, this machine has insane ammounts of ram. do i still need to swap?
[23:11] <gorgonzo1a> second, if i do, can i configure a swap file instead of a swap partition?
[23:11] <geekstay> Someone know how to access to xfce4-volumed configuration files ?
[23:12] <Biafra> gorgonzola, swapfile is easy to do
[23:12] <Biafra> dd if=/dev/zero of=/path/to/swapfile
[23:12] <gorgonzo1a> Biafra so i could just put a swapfile somewhere in the data partition and forget about it? can it be dynamically alocated too?
[23:13] <Biafra> not sure
[23:13] <Biafra> probably not
[23:13] <gorgonzo1a> mmm
[23:13] <gorgonzo1a> so, the thing is, i've always done the "double ram" rule for swap
[23:13] <gorgonzo1a> but this machine has 32 gb of ram...
[23:13] <linuxnewb> 32GB of RAM!?
[23:14] <gorgonzo1a> so first of al, i don't want to use 64gb of space for swap, and second, i honestly doubt i will ever swap
[23:14] <linuxnewb> wow. what dreams are made of
[23:14] <gorgonzo1a> yeah. 32. i feel obscene.
[23:14] <Biafra> I have 16 on my box
[23:14] <linuxnewb> did you just sign up for lightworks? ;-)
[23:14] <gorgonzo1a> main research machine:)
[23:14] <Biafra> so yeah...
[23:14] <hdd3> how does my ext. hdd not show up anymore.? can anybody help`
[23:14] <jrib> gorgonzo1a: if you want to be able to hibernate, use at least = RAM, otherwise, use your judgement
[23:15] <gorgonzo1a> jrib that's hat i was thinking... can i use a swapfile exclusively for hibernation?
[23:15] <Deas>  fopen(data.txt): failed to open stream: Permission denied
[23:15] <Deas> why
[23:15] <Deas> WHY
[23:15] <Deas> ;__;
[23:15] <hdd3> linuxnewb, nope doesnt show up in fdisk -l
[23:15] <FloodBot1> Deas: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:15] <gorgonzo1a> jrib, like, space that is note dedicated, only fdor emergency purposes?
[23:15] <jrib> gorgonzo1a: at one point that wasn't possible.  But it may be now.
[23:15] <linuxnewb> hdd3: your best bet is to look on ddiskutility. it' s grsphical and straight forward
[23:15] <jrib> gorgonzo1a: uh, what do you mean?
[23:16] <Biafra> gorgonzola: once you get over 4GB ram, it should be mem size = swap size
[23:16] <Biafra> yeah
[23:16] <gorgonzo1a> ok. Biafra, jrib, let me explain.
[23:16] <hdd3> linuxnewb, i know, but it doesnt show there either
[23:16] <gorgonzo1a> i generally don't think swap should be needed in this machine. And I don't want to use 32 gb of hard drive for a fixed swap partition
[23:16] <Deas> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6015813/
[23:16] <gorgonzo1a> (unless strictly necessary)
[23:16] <jrib> gorgonzo1a: do you want to hibernate?
[23:17] <gorgonzo1a> that's what i'm trying to decide...
[23:17] <jrib> gorgonzo1a: ok, well that's just a personal choice
[23:17] <linuxnewb> disk ticks?
[23:17] <gorgonzo1a> maybe? only in case of an emergency, but it's not critical.
[23:17] <Biafra> gorgonzola: if you want hibernation support, then yes. Otherwise, it's really up to your whim
[23:17] <jrib> gorgonzo1a: then create a 32GB swap
[23:17] <Biafra> gorgonzola: I advise making it 40
[23:18] <Biafra> gorgonzola: overhead purposes
[23:18] <zykotick9> gorgonzo1a: i'd recommend a 33GB swap myself, RAM+alittlebit
[23:18] <gorgonzo1a> jrib Biafra: thanks for your help. just one more thing. suppose i go the no hibernation route... do i still need swap?
[23:18] <hdd3> linuxnewb, ticks? it makes sounds and has the normal red light when switching on and off...
[23:18] <gorgonzo1a> does the kernel rely on it at all?
[23:18] <Biafra> gorgonzola: not really, but it never hurts
[23:18] <zykotick9> !swap | gorgonzo1a
[23:18] <AleXa> linuxnewb, any news from Guest_+_number?
[23:19] <gorgonzo1a> zykotick9 thanks for info.
[23:19] <jrib> gorgonzo1a: you should have some swap, imo.  The kernel should try to optimize your memory usage anyway and you can tune the behavior with swappiness. Swapping is better than facing OOM
[23:20] <gorgonzo1a> jrib ok. i see. now, exclusoively for memory management purposes, is it possible to swap to a dynamically alocated file in another parittion?
[23:20] <gorgonzo1a> jrib or is that asking for pain?
[23:20] <jrib> gorgonzo1a: I don't know about "dynamically"
[23:20] <gorgonzo1a> oh, you know, like virtualbox disk images :)
[23:20] <gorgonzo1a> jrib they grow as needed.
[23:20] <jrib> gorgonzo1a: I understand what you mean; I don't know if it's do-able
[23:21] <hdd3> is there an option to unmount / mount disk that are not shown in disk utility/ fdisk??? it creaps me out
[23:21] <Biafra> gorgonzola: I believe if you go swapfile, it's a fixed image
[23:22] <gorgonzo1a> jrib Biafra: sounds like it's just saner to put aside 40gb for swap
[23:22] <gorgonzo1a> sounds crazy though :S
[23:23] <hdd3> anyone ?
[23:23] <gorgonzo1a> hdd3 if it doesn't show in fdisk, it's bad news.
[23:23] <jrib> gorgonzo1a: I wouldn't make it more than 32GB
[23:23] <Biafra> hdd3 what kind of external drive is it you're drying to use?
[23:23] <gorgonzo1a> hdd3 make sure you are actually looking at the correct device, and not a specific partition ie, /dev/sda instead of /dev/sda3 etc.
[23:23] <Biafra> e.g., USB, eSATA, ieee1394, etc.
[23:24] <hdd3> its an ext3 encrypetd one, i just used diskutility to make an ntfs partition on another hdd!!
[23:24] <hdd3> it should show as sdc or sdd but doesnt
[23:24] <gorgonzo1a> oh. encrypted? sorry. no idea there :S
[23:25] <gorgonzo1a> ok guys, thanks a lot for the advice. one more thing: what is the recommended file size for root these days? is 20,30gb still enough?
[23:25] <gorgonzo1a> i mean / not /root
[23:25] <hdd3> i never had problems till now, there shouldnt be any differnce for mounting, maybe theres just a problem with mount points etc, reboot dintt help
[23:26] <Biafra> gorgonzola, depends on what you're partitoning for
[23:26] <gorgonzo1a> hdd3 don't know dude. i had a traumatic experience with encrypted volumes once and never looked again into it. sorry i can help more, maybe someone else here can
[23:27] <gorgonzo1a> Biafra, this box has a 128 ssd and a 500 gb hd. i want / on the ssd obviously, but then i want /var on the hd
[23:27] <hdd3> thanks, gotgonzola, i feel like i ate the wrong cheese :(
[23:27] <gorgonzo1a> Biafra, sorry i should hav been more specific. it comes down to: how big is / minus /var for partitioning purposes?
[23:28] <Biafra> gorgonzo1a, in that case, you can dedicate the entirety of your SSD (minus space for the swap and any separate /boot partition) to the root partition
[23:29] <Biafra> if you're dedicating the HDD to /var
[23:29] <Biafra> depending on how much / is accessed compared to /var
[23:29] <gorgonzo1a> Biafra i'd love to, but there's a windows partitition and a bunch of system stuff that i don't want to mess too much about...
[23:30] <gorgonzo1a> Biafra so i guess it's about how much space should i try to recover from those in order to throw / on it
[23:30] <Biafra> How much space does your Windows Partition have?
[23:30] <gorgonzo1a> Biafra i'm putting /var in the hdd in order to reduce strain on the ssd
[23:31] <gorgonzo1a> right now it has 90gb allocated, 30gb used
[23:31] <wilee-nilee> Deas, Where is the data?
[23:32] <gorgonzo1a> Biafra nevermind, i just realized this is a very simple issue after all...
[23:32] <Biafra> gorgonzo1a, you should be able to lop off up to 50GB to Linux without no ill effectts in Windows
[23:32] <gorgonzo1a> Biafra yeah, it just dawned on me
[23:32] <gorgonzo1a> ok. I'll go do that. thanks a bunch for the help.
[23:32] <gorgonzo1a> Biafra, jrib, thanks, bye.
[23:32] <Biafra> bai
[23:33] <Deas> wilee-nilee: same dir as the php file
[23:33] <wilee-nilee> Deas, Not sure then
[23:33] <dougl> would like to set up my raspbian Pi to be a sound server for my 13.04... any suggestions?
[23:35] <jrib> dougl: raspbian isn't ubuntu is it?
[23:36] <Chan_Song_Joo> konichiwa
[23:38] <SilverSlimer> Is it possible to get HDMI sound out of nouveau drivers?
[23:38] <reisio> SilverSlimer: nouveau is a graphics driver
[23:39] <SilverSlimer> reisio: i know that
[23:39] <SilverSlimer> i guess i should rephrase that
[23:39] <SilverSlimer> is it possible for hdmi sound to work without the nvidia drivers being installed?
[23:40] <reisio> I don't think the nvidia drivers have anything to do with audio
[23:40] <reisio> so yes
[23:41] <xiaclo> Yes, it relies on ALSA/PulseAudio being able to see the device, which can be done with the official drivers (not sure they even help)
[23:41] <monkeyjuice> dougl:  check with #raspbian ?
[23:41] <zykotick9> SilverSlimer: http://nouveau.freedesktop.org/wiki/FeatureMatrix/
[23:41] <reisio> they're graphics drivers
[23:41] <zykotick9> reisio: hdmi and graphics are often tied together, as in this case.
[23:41] <reisio> right, my audio is through a nvidia device, too
[23:42] <reisio> but the driver is unrelated
[23:42] <zykotick9> reisio: the driver IS related... as in this case
[23:43] <reisio> I don't see how, but I don't suppose it matters
[23:43] <SilverSlimer> zykotick9, mine is a NVA8. Not sure which one that ends up being
[23:43] <reisio> n50 it says
[23:44] <zykotick9> SilverSlimer: nor i, i'm afraid.  good luck.  I don't have any hdmi video cards.
[23:44] <SilverSlimer> well, it's good to know that work is progressing either way
[23:44] <reisio> it says hdmi is "done" for your card
[23:44] <reisio> but that's probably to do with primarily video
[23:45] <reisio> if you're having trouble with audio over hdmi, it's more likely to do with your audio driver, pulse or alsa config, or the cable itself (not all hdmi cables carry audio)
[23:46] <SilverSlimer> hmmm, nva8 = nv50
[23:46] <SilverSlimer> it says that hdmi audio is done
[23:46] <SilverSlimer> i guess i'll have to try it out later
[23:46] <reisio> it says that hdmi is done :p
[23:47] <SilverSlimer> i wasn't able to get it working with the nvidia driver
[23:47] <reisio> you should try it out now :)
[23:47] <SilverSlimer> if it works with nouveau, i won't need nvidia for anything (this laptop is so not meant for gaming)
[23:47] <Pooly> hello, I'm sorry, I'm a new buy of linux OS and IRC clients... I have a question about the touchpad of my asus... can I ask here?
[23:47] <reisio> all the hdmi troubles people I've encountered had to do with pulseaudio/alsa
[23:48] <reisio> Pooly: I don't know, can you? :)
[23:48] <dobbie> I have Xubuntu. I need to install Windows 7 ISO to my flash drive as multiboot to install Windows 7 from flash. How can I write ISO on my flash? Uneetbootin or Startup Disk Creator failed to burn windows 7 iso correctly
[23:48] <SilverSlimer> holy shit it works
[23:48] <Pooly> hahaha...  excuse my orrible english reisio
[23:48] <zykotick9> Pooly: are you using Ubuntu?  if so, then yes.
[23:48] <SilverSlimer> alright, free drivers for life
[23:48] <Pooly> yes I have ubuntu 13
[23:48] <reisio> SilverSlimer: heh
[23:49] <reisio> if nouveau is doing vdpau for my card now I might get into that myself
[23:49] <reisio> latest nvidia driver was flaking out some
[23:49] <zykotick9> Pooly: sidenote - there is no "ubuntu 13" there is ubuntu 13.04 and the upcoming 13.10, but no 13
[23:49] <SilverSlimer> so far ubuntu makes my fedora experience look tame
[23:50] <SilverSlimer> nouveau used to suck mostly because of the vsync issue
[23:50] <SilverSlimer> the screen tearing was extremely annoying
[23:50] <Pooly> zykotick9: 13.04 yes...
[23:50] <reisio> well it used to be very very new
[23:50] <SilverSlimer> it doesn't affect unity at all
[23:50] <reisio> they've developed fast
[23:51] <Pooly> here the question: when a wifi mouse is connected can I enabled the touchpad?
[23:51] <dobbie> I have Xubuntu. I need to install Windows 7 ISO to my flash drive as multiboot to install Windows 7 from flash. How can I write ISO on my flash? Uneetbootin or Startup Disk Creator failed to burn windows 7 iso correctly
[23:51] <zykotick9> Pooly: sidenote also, there is probably a ubuntu-irc channel in your native language (if your more comfortable in a non-english language).  if you're comfortable in english, then by all means use this channel.
[23:51] <reisio> Pooly: disable?
[23:52] <Pooly> excuse me exclude
[23:52] <reisio> disable :)
[23:52] <reisio> Pooly: is it bluetooth?
[23:52] <Pooly> ok I'll try for a polish channel then... thank you
[23:52] <zykotick9> reisio: no, wifi ;)
[23:52] <SilverSlimer> polish channel?
[23:52] <reisio> dobbie: to install the install image to flash, or the windows installation itself?
[23:52] <SilverSlimer> i speak polish
[23:52] <reisio> zykotick9: heh
[23:52] <SilverSlimer> my spelling is awful but i'll figure it out
[23:52] <zykotick9> !po
[23:53] <zykotick9> does !pl make sense for polish?
[23:53] <zykotick9> !pl
[23:53] <reisio> yes
[23:54] <SilverSlimer> ubottu: it's all good, my polish is verage
[23:54] <SilverSlimer> average too
[23:55] <Dictator> dobbie, use pendrivelinux
[23:57] <emerson> exit
[23:58] <Dictator> dobbie, try this if unebootin doesn't work http://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/
[23:58] <ntzrmtthihu777> dobbie: I've only used windows utils to burn windows iso's to usb, but there should be something for it.
[23:58] <peter> boa noite, algum de voces sabem como melhorar o tempo util da bateria?
[23:58] <ntzrmtthihu777> heyo, my ctrl+alt+arrow keys are not functioning for workspace swithcing