| smartboyhw | Riddell, I'm currently fixing Noskcaj's problem here | 05:46 |
|---|---|---|
| * smartboyhw blames Noskcaj for not test-building | 05:46 | |
| smartboyhw | And using Xubuntu is NOT an excuse (when you can actually run it under Xubuntu) | 05:46 |
| smartboyhw | Riddell, shadeslayer: Can you explain why we use telepathy-farstream 0.4? | 05:58 |
| smartboyhw | I mean, for ktp-call-ui | 05:58 |
| smartboyhw | It builds with 0.6 | 05:58 |
| smartboyhw | maybe I should ask Noskcaj later, he made that | 05:59 |
| smartboyhw | Noskcaj, why is there a telepathy-farstream-0.4 patch? | 06:00 |
| Noskcaj | smartboyhw, idk | 06:01 |
| smartboyhw | Noskcaj, wait, it's included in your upload | 06:02 |
| Noskcaj | smartboyhw, I barely remember merging it | 06:02 |
| smartboyhw | Noskcaj, who merged it? | 06:02 |
| Noskcaj | pitti | 06:02 |
| smartboyhw | Noskcaj, why does the changelog say it's you? | 06:02 |
| smartboyhw | And the patch is provided by Laney | 06:02 |
| Noskcaj | i mean, i merged it, pitti sponsored, and idk about laney | 06:03 |
| Noskcaj | i have to go | 06:03 |
| * smartboyhw checks logs, sigh | 06:03 | |
| smartboyhw | Foundit | 06:07 |
| smartboyhw | Hmm | 06:07 |
| Riddell | smartboyhw: nope if that's added by debian I'd wonder what's what on there | 07:20 |
| smartboyhw | Riddell, it's added by Laney it seems | 07:21 |
| smartboyhw | But obviously I can now install it, keeping gstreamer-0.10 WITHOUT the patch | 07:21 |
| soee | good morning | 08:04 |
| vHanda | shadeslayer: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=321139#c9 | 09:22 |
| ubottu | KDE bug 321139 in filewatch "Polkit dialog not explicit enough when trying to raise filewatch limit" [Wishlist,Confirmed] | 09:22 |
| vHanda | The inotify limit isn't enough? | 09:22 |
| yofel | $ cat /etc/sysctl.d/30-nepomuk-inotify-limit.conf | 09:25 |
| yofel | fs.inotify.max_user_watches = 524288 | 09:25 |
| yofel | should be enough, shouldn't it? | 09:25 |
| vHanda | It should be. I'll ask them to provide the additional info | 09:26 |
| valorie | vHanda: I just sent a guy from #kde to #nepomuk-kde for help | 09:26 |
| vHanda | yeah. I just read that on #kde | 09:26 |
| valorie | cool | 09:27 |
| lordievader | Good morning. | 09:30 |
| === smartboyhw changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Kubuntu - Friendly Computing | https://trello.com/kubuntu | https://notes.kde.org/p/kubuntu-ninjas 4.11.0 saucy/archive raring/backports precise/ninjas| 13.10 Alpha 2 released | 13.10 milestoned bugs tagged Kubuntu http://goo.gl/vHRjj | Kubuntu 12.04.3 still NOT yet released | ||
| smartboyhw | Well, stupid Wubi ^ | 09:31 |
| yofel | not only wubi, my LXC containers that I updated yesterday also say 12.04.3 | 09:32 |
| yofel | releasing only counts for the images anyway | 09:33 |
| smartboyhw | yofel, no, I mean it's Wubi who's delaying the release:P | 09:33 |
| lordievader | My server also says 12.04.3. | 09:33 |
| yofel | oh that, who cares about wubi? | 09:33 |
| lordievader | But anyways all of the images are marked ready, so what else can we do but wait? | 09:33 |
| smartboyhw | They fix it in US evening, that the Release Team has to sleep | 09:33 |
| yofel | though in precise it actually still works I think | 09:33 |
| * smartboyhw never did a successful installation using Wubi | 09:34 | |
| yofel | I did, I never saw the installer but it somehow installed successfully | 09:34 |
| shadeslayer | smartboyhw: that's because ktp call ui doesn't support gstreamer 1.0 yet | 09:47 |
| shadeslayer | smartboyhw: and farstream 1.0 only supports gstreamer 1.0 | 09:47 |
| shadeslayer | farstream 0.4 supports gst 0.10 which is why we have that patch | 09:47 |
| smartboyhw | shadeslayer, are you guys working on making it work? | 09:52 |
| shadeslayer | not me | 09:52 |
| shadeslayer | but I believe someone might be | 09:52 |
| shadeslayer | The idea was to first port qgst then ktp-call-ui | 09:52 |
| shadeslayer | smartboyhw: either way, it's not like gst 0.10 is deprecated | 09:53 |
| shadeslayer | it still gets updates | 09:53 |
| smartboyhw | I got a KDE dev account now (due to that I'm working in a new project KCountries) | 09:56 |
| smartboyhw | KCountries = introducing people to different countries | 09:56 |
| smartboyhw | That's a wiki app:P | 09:56 |
| lordievader | smartboyhw: Nice, congratulations. | 09:56 |
| shadeslayer | :S | 10:13 |
| shadeslayer | Noskcaj dropped a vital patch | 10:13 |
| smartboyhw | shadeslayer, well, there's a fix in my packaging-staging-2 ppa | 10:14 |
| smartboyhw | if you would upload it | 10:14 |
| shadeslayer | okay | 10:15 |
| shadeslayer | link to dsc? | 10:15 |
| smartboyhw | HELL, wait | 10:16 |
| smartboyhw | I added an extra .0:O | 10:17 |
| smartboyhw | shadeslayer, https://launchpad.net/~smartboyhw/+archive/packaging-staging-4/+files/ktp-call-ui_0.6.3-1ubuntu2.dsc | 10:20 |
| smartboyhw | Packaging staging 4;P | 10:20 |
| shadeslayer | @_@ | 10:20 |
| shadeslayer | why don't you use PPA | 10:20 |
| shadeslayer | ~ppa1 | 10:20 |
| smartboyhw | Because I would rather like them when that's used for ppa only | 10:21 |
| * smartboyhw rather wants to waste my time then reviewer time | 10:22 | |
| BluesKaj | Howdy folks | 10:33 |
| ovidiu-florin | hello world | 10:44 |
| ovidiu-florin | does kubuntu use systemd? if not, will it? | 10:44 |
| smartboyhw | Now in Konversation! | 10:44 |
| shadeslayer | ovidiu-florin: uhm, we can't say | 10:46 |
| shadeslayer | ovidiu-florin: the need for systemd *might* arise when we switch to wayland | 10:47 |
| shadeslayer | and we will discuss it when the need arises :) | 10:47 |
| ovidiu-florin | if I may, if you would only discuss it if the need arises, then why not just stick with xorg, since wayland can be considered as not really necessary? | 10:50 |
| shadeslayer | how is it not really necessary o_o | 10:51 |
| ovidiu-florin | the same I could say about systemd | 10:52 |
| shadeslayer | how so? | 10:52 |
| yofel | not really, kwin will switch to wayland, so we know we have to look at it | 10:52 |
| shadeslayer | if wayland really needs it then we'll have to make it work? | 10:52 |
| shadeslayer | and what yofel said | 10:52 |
| ovidiu-florin | I didn't dissagree with that | 10:53 |
| yofel | so far I don't see that we will need systemd | 10:53 |
| yofel | upstart works fine and I don't see how kde requires systemd | 10:53 |
| ovidiu-florin | I just said that unless wayland needs it, you won't consider systemd? | 10:53 |
| yofel | we do use parts of systemd like logind already as that's used by kde | 10:53 |
| shadeslayer | ^^ | 10:54 |
| yofel | systemd itself is so far not needed | 10:54 |
| yofel | it's not really an option currently anyway, as ubuntu only support upstart | 10:54 |
| yofel | *supports | 10:55 |
| ovidiu-florin | ok, I understand now | 10:55 |
| shadeslayer | moment, finding link | 10:58 |
| shadeslayer | https://dvdhrm.wordpress.com/2013/07/08/thoughts-on-linux-system-compositors/ | 10:59 |
| shadeslayer | had a conversation with Martin a week or two ago and he gave me that link | 10:59 |
| shadeslayer | and said Wayland might need systemd / logind | 10:59 |
| shadeslayer | <quote> At the moment it doesn't matter, because the required components (wlsystemc) do not exist yet. </quote> | 11:00 |
| shadeslayer | so once wlsystemc gets implemented, we will know whether we need systemd , logind or both | 11:00 |
| yofel | "In fact, if logind becomes the central session manager, the concept of a system compositor will be dead and buried" | 11:08 |
| yofel | tell that MIR ^^ | 11:08 |
| shadeslayer | :D | 11:10 |
| yofel | nice read, thanks | 11:14 |
| BluesKaj | I hear talk by arch users about systemd being so wonderful and fast boot times etc. It is fast, but after installing arch running it was anticlimactic , very stable and for some reason , boring . The attitude in their chatrooms was juvenile and silly, not conducive to learning more about the OS | 11:15 |
| yofel | did arch ever use upstart? In my experiements with systemd it was fast for sure, but not really any faster than upstart once you had a sufficient amount of services installed | 11:17 |
| shadeslayer | ^ | 11:17 |
| ovidiu-florin | BluesKaj: that's the general attitude thowards anything in #archlinux | 11:17 |
| ovidiu-florin | I only go there as a last resort | 11:18 |
| BluesKaj | ovidiu-florin, it's unfortunate that their chats are dominated by smug, arrogant and childish members :( | 11:20 |
| ovidiu-florin | they are not all like that, but most of them are | 11:20 |
| ovidiu-florin | that's why I mostly hang out in #archlinux.ro | 11:21 |
| ovidiu-florin | local channel | 11:21 |
| BluesKaj | right | 11:21 |
| shadeslayer | smartboyhw: your fix is wrong btw | 11:27 |
| smartboyhw | shadeslayer: oh? | 11:34 |
| shadeslayer | !find telepathy-glib/channel.h saucy | 11:34 |
| ubottu | File telepathy-glib/channel.h found in libtelepathy-glib-dev | 11:34 |
| shadeslayer | smartboyhw: yes, we don't want to build with farstream 1.0 | 11:35 |
| smartboyhw | mmm? | 11:35 |
| smartboyhw | shadeslayer: oh | 11:35 |
| shadeslayer | dafuq? | 11:35 |
| smartboyhw | !? | 11:35 |
| shadeslayer | smartboyhw: think about how to fix it | 11:36 |
| shadeslayer | I have a workaround | 11:36 |
| smartboyhw | shadeslayer: What farstream version do you want then? | 11:37 |
| shadeslayer | libtelepathy-farstream-0.4-dev | 11:37 |
| smartboyhw | What? | 11:37 |
| smartboyhw | I thought the patch and the debian/control works | 11:38 |
| * smartboyhw doesn't understand | 11:38 | |
| shadeslayer | it works, but it's wrong | 11:38 |
| shadeslayer | smartboyhw: try fixing the problem without modifying the build depends | 11:39 |
| smartboyhw | shadeslayer: :O | 11:39 |
| * smartboyhw doesn't have time for this then, sorru | 11:39 | |
| smartboyhw | &sorry | 11:39 |
| smartboyhw | shadeslayer: I just have a think of it, does that involve symlinks? | 11:48 |
| shadeslayer | no | 11:48 |
| smartboyhw | install files? | 11:48 |
| shadeslayer | no | 11:48 |
| shadeslayer | stop guessing :P | 11:49 |
| shadeslayer | look at the diff :) | 11:49 |
| smartboyhw | shadeslayer: LOL | 11:49 |
| smartboyhw | shadeslayer: eh, where is it? | 11:50 |
| * smartboyhw still sees -1ubuntu1 in Launchpad | 11:50 | |
| shadeslayer | I didn't upload it | 11:50 |
| shadeslayer | still playing with the package | 11:50 |
| shadeslayer | trying to figure out a better way to fix | 11:51 |
| smartboyhw | shadeslayer: Eh, where's the diff? | 11:51 |
| shadeslayer | https://launchpadlibrarian.net/148074060/ktp-call-ui_0.6.3-0ubuntu1_0.6.3-1ubuntu1.diff.gz | 11:51 |
| smartboyhw | shadeslayer: | 11:52 |
| smartboyhw | +CMAKE_FLAGS := \ | 11:52 |
| smartboyhw | + -DTP_FARSTREAM_INCLUDE_DIRS=/usr/include/telepathy-1.0 \ | 11:52 |
| smartboyhw | ? | 11:52 |
| shadeslayer | bingo | 11:53 |
| smartboyhw | :O | 11:54 |
| smartboyhw | Wow | 11:54 |
| * smartboyhw likse CMAKE flags:P | 11:54 | |
| shadeslayer | if you drop that flag, it works | 11:58 |
| shadeslayer | but if I change it to /usr/include/telepathy-1.0-compat it fails | 11:58 |
| smartboyhw | shadeslayer: oh | 11:58 |
| shadeslayer | hm | 12:17 |
| shadeslayer | smartboyhw: le fixed https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ktp-call-ui/0.6.3-1ubuntu2 | 12:29 |
| shadeslayer | https://launchpadlibrarian.net/148242575/ktp-call-ui_0.6.3-1ubuntu1_0.6.3-1ubuntu2.diff.gz < incase you want to see how I fixed it | 12:29 |
| smartboyhw | shadeslayer: \o/ | 12:29 |
| shadeslayer | I am unsure why debian explicitly defines those variables | 12:29 |
| smartboyhw | shadeslayer: better contact Debian for that. | 12:30 |
| shadeslayer | can't create a sid pbuilder :M | 12:38 |
| shadeslayer | :S | 12:38 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: E: Release signed by unknown key (key id 8B48AD6246925553) | 12:38 |
| shadeslayer | why the heck is that happening o_o | 12:38 |
| yofel | wrong keyring | 12:38 |
| yofel | ? | 12:38 |
| smartboyhw | :O | 12:39 |
| shadeslayer | well, I'm using the pbuilderrc that all of us use | 12:39 |
| shadeslayer | with the ninjas modificatiosn | 12:39 |
| yofel | shadeslayer: http://paste.kde.org/pcaf4cab7/ line 95 ff | 12:39 |
| yofel | uh, I use my own one ^^ | 12:39 |
| shadeslayer | asame thing | 12:39 |
| shadeslayer | hm | 12:40 |
| yofel | *shrug* | 12:40 |
| yofel | I: Valid Release signature (key id A1BD8E9D78F7FE5C3E65D8AF8B48AD6246925553) | 12:40 |
| shadeslayer | wait | 12:40 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: which release is that? | 12:40 |
| shadeslayer | because I'm trying to make a sid pbuilder] | 12:40 |
| yofel | I'm on saucy and tried to make sid i386 | 12:41 |
| shadeslayer | ololol | 12:41 |
| shadeslayer | I moved "${DEBOOTSTRAPOPTS[@]}" to the top ( it was at the bottom ) | 12:42 |
| shadeslayer | and it worked -.- | 12:42 |
| smartboyhw | HEH | 12:42 |
| yofel | ah, it's probably setting the wrong keyring in there ^^ | 12:42 |
| shadeslayer | probably | 12:42 |
| yofel | forget probably, /usr/share/pbuilder/pbuilderrc line 91 | 12:43 |
| shadeslayer | -.- | 12:45 |
| smartboyhw | yofel: shadeslayer: So, looking at the Tanglu wiki, you only got 3 people working?:O | 12:45 |
| shadeslayer | yeah | 12:45 |
| shadeslayer | and I don't work | 12:45 |
| shadeslayer | haven't done anything lately | 12:45 |
| yofel | make that 1.5, ximion is 1, shadeslayer is 0.2, I am 0.3 | 12:46 |
| shadeslayer | :P | 12:46 |
| smartboyhw | Uh | 12:46 |
| yofel | well, add +0.1 for dantti | 12:46 |
| shadeslayer | I have no fricking idea why live build isn't working | 12:46 |
| shadeslayer | okay well, I might, but I have no idea how to fix it | 12:46 |
| * smartboyhw is amazed that you can make contributor amounts down to 0.1 when there's 4 people:O | 12:46 | |
| smartboyhw | shadeslayer: What's the prob? | 12:47 |
| yofel | also, we're talking in the wrong channel really ^^ | 12:47 |
| smartboyhw | Yeah, you realized that. | 12:48 |
| smartboyhw | !ot | shadeslayer yofel smartboyhw | 12:48 |
| ubottu | shadeslayer yofel smartboyhw: #kubuntu-devel is the development channel for Kubuntu, please use #kubuntu for support questions and #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks | 12:48 |
| smartboyhw | LOL LOL | 12:48 |
| yofel | ^^ | 12:48 |
| shadeslayer | the build works fine without the extra cmake variable | 12:52 |
| smartboyhw | shadeslayer: \o/ | 12:52 |
| shadeslayer | in debian sid | 12:53 |
| smartboyhw | Oh | 12:54 |
| === ghostcube_ is now known as ghostcube | ||
| shadeslayer | lol, I forgot to remove the template lines | 13:07 |
| shadeslayer | :( | 13:07 |
| shadeslayer | http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=720578 | 13:07 |
| ubottu | Debian bug 720578 in ktp-call-ui "ktp-call-ui has useless extra cmake arguments in debian/rules" [Normal,Open] | 13:07 |
| smartboyhw | hah | 13:08 |
| smartboyhw | shadeslayer: fault! | 13:08 |
| shadeslayer | :) | 13:10 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: what do you make of http://paste.kde.org/p6e16f79d/ | 14:23 |
| shadeslayer | I have no idea what's trying to gain su privilliges with the user shadesla since I don't have that user :S | 14:24 |
| smartboyhw | LOL | 14:24 |
| yofel | shadeslayer: @_@ | 14:26 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: ?? | 14:26 |
| yofel | first time I see that.. | 14:26 |
| * shadeslayer installs rkhunter and chkrootkit | 14:28 | |
| shadeslayer | O_O | 14:34 |
| shadeslayer | Searching for Suckit rootkit... Warning: /sbin/init INFECTED | 14:34 |
| smartboyhw | O-O | 14:38 |
| shadeslayer | apparently a false positive | 14:38 |
| shadeslayer | smartboyhw: yofel do you have a /dev/.initramfs ? | 14:42 |
| yofel | yes | 14:43 |
| shadeslayer | or a /dev/.udev/rules.d/root.rules | 14:43 |
| yofel | dito | 14:43 |
| smartboyhw | shadeslayer: I have also | 14:48 |
| smartboyhw | Both files | 14:48 |
| shadeslayer | cool | 14:48 |
| shadeslayer | *looks* like I'm safe :) | 14:49 |
| blaze | hello, i need someone to test the issue | 15:53 |
| blaze | qtdesigner runs akonadi server on it's start | 15:54 |
| blaze | how to reproduce: 1) run "akonadictl stop" 2) run "designer-qt4" 3) find akonadi among the running processes | 15:57 |
| seaLne | does anyone happen to know is there a way to deactivate my ubuntu.com/kubuntu.org address, it makes it hard for me to properly handle spam | 16:07 |
| seaLne | i can't see anything obvious in launchpad | 16:08 |
| ScottK | seaLne: I'd ask on #launchpad. | 16:18 |
| seaLne | not sure if you are supposed to be able to do it through launchpad or some other way | 16:19 |
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