[05:46] Riddell, I'm currently fixing Noskcaj's problem here [05:46] * smartboyhw blames Noskcaj for not test-building [05:46] And using Xubuntu is NOT an excuse (when you can actually run it under Xubuntu) [05:58] Riddell, shadeslayer: Can you explain why we use telepathy-farstream 0.4? [05:58] I mean, for ktp-call-ui [05:58] It builds with 0.6 [05:59] maybe I should ask Noskcaj later, he made that [06:00] Noskcaj, why is there a telepathy-farstream-0.4 patch? [06:01] smartboyhw, idk [06:02] Noskcaj, wait, it's included in your upload [06:02] smartboyhw, I barely remember merging it [06:02] Noskcaj, who merged it? [06:02] pitti [06:02] Noskcaj, why does the changelog say it's you? [06:02] And the patch is provided by Laney [06:03] i mean, i merged it, pitti sponsored, and idk about laney [06:03] i have to go [06:03] * smartboyhw checks logs, sigh [06:07] Foundit [06:07] Hmm [07:20] smartboyhw: nope if that's added by debian I'd wonder what's what on there [07:21] Riddell, it's added by Laney it seems [07:21] But obviously I can now install it, keeping gstreamer-0.10 WITHOUT the patch [08:04] good morning [09:22] shadeslayer: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=321139#c9 [09:22] KDE bug 321139 in filewatch "Polkit dialog not explicit enough when trying to raise filewatch limit" [Wishlist,Confirmed] [09:22] The inotify limit isn't enough? [09:25] $ cat /etc/sysctl.d/30-nepomuk-inotify-limit.conf [09:25] fs.inotify.max_user_watches = 524288 [09:25] should be enough, shouldn't it? [09:26] It should be. I'll ask them to provide the additional info [09:26] vHanda: I just sent a guy from #kde to #nepomuk-kde for help [09:26] yeah. I just read that on #kde [09:27] cool [09:30] Good morning. === smartboyhw changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Kubuntu - Friendly Computing | https://trello.com/kubuntu | https://notes.kde.org/p/kubuntu-ninjas 4.11.0 saucy/archive raring/backports precise/ninjas| 13.10 Alpha 2 released | 13.10 milestoned bugs tagged Kubuntu http://goo.gl/vHRjj | Kubuntu 12.04.3 still NOT yet released [09:31] Well, stupid Wubi ^ [09:32] not only wubi, my LXC containers that I updated yesterday also say 12.04.3 [09:33] releasing only counts for the images anyway [09:33] yofel, no, I mean it's Wubi who's delaying the release:P [09:33] My server also says 12.04.3. [09:33] oh that, who cares about wubi? [09:33] But anyways all of the images are marked ready, so what else can we do but wait? [09:33] They fix it in US evening, that the Release Team has to sleep [09:33] though in precise it actually still works I think [09:34] * smartboyhw never did a successful installation using Wubi [09:34] I did, I never saw the installer but it somehow installed successfully [09:47] smartboyhw: that's because ktp call ui doesn't support gstreamer 1.0 yet [09:47] smartboyhw: and farstream 1.0 only supports gstreamer 1.0 [09:47] farstream 0.4 supports gst 0.10 which is why we have that patch [09:52] shadeslayer, are you guys working on making it work? [09:52] not me [09:52] but I believe someone might be [09:52] The idea was to first port qgst then ktp-call-ui [09:53] smartboyhw: either way, it's not like gst 0.10 is deprecated [09:53] it still gets updates [09:56] I got a KDE dev account now (due to that I'm working in a new project KCountries) [09:56] KCountries = introducing people to different countries [09:56] That's a wiki app:P [09:56] smartboyhw: Nice, congratulations. [10:13] :S [10:13] Noskcaj dropped a vital patch [10:14] shadeslayer, well, there's a fix in my packaging-staging-2 ppa [10:14] if you would upload it [10:15] okay [10:15] link to dsc? [10:16] HELL, wait [10:17] I added an extra .0:O [10:20] shadeslayer, https://launchpad.net/~smartboyhw/+archive/packaging-staging-4/+files/ktp-call-ui_0.6.3-1ubuntu2.dsc [10:20] Packaging staging 4;P [10:20] @_@ [10:20] why don't you use PPA [10:20] ~ppa1 [10:21] Because I would rather like them when that's used for ppa only [10:22] * smartboyhw rather wants to waste my time then reviewer time [10:33] Howdy folks [10:44] hello world [10:44] does kubuntu use systemd? if not, will it? [10:44] Now in Konversation! [10:46] ovidiu-florin: uhm, we can't say [10:47] ovidiu-florin: the need for systemd *might* arise when we switch to wayland [10:47] and we will discuss it when the need arises :) [10:50] if I may, if you would only discuss it if the need arises, then why not just stick with xorg, since wayland can be considered as not really necessary? [10:51] how is it not really necessary o_o [10:52] the same I could say about systemd [10:52] how so? [10:52] not really, kwin will switch to wayland, so we know we have to look at it [10:52] if wayland really needs it then we'll have to make it work? [10:52] and what yofel said [10:53] I didn't dissagree with that [10:53] so far I don't see that we will need systemd [10:53] upstart works fine and I don't see how kde requires systemd [10:53] I just said that unless wayland needs it, you won't consider systemd? [10:53] we do use parts of systemd like logind already as that's used by kde [10:54] ^^ [10:54] systemd itself is so far not needed [10:54] it's not really an option currently anyway, as ubuntu only support upstart [10:55] *supports [10:55] ok, I understand now [10:58] moment, finding link [10:59] https://dvdhrm.wordpress.com/2013/07/08/thoughts-on-linux-system-compositors/ [10:59] had a conversation with Martin a week or two ago and he gave me that link [10:59] and said Wayland might need systemd / logind [11:00] At the moment it doesn't matter, because the required components (wlsystemc) do not exist yet. [11:00] so once wlsystemc gets implemented, we will know whether we need systemd , logind or both [11:08] "In fact, if logind becomes the central session manager, the concept of a system compositor will be dead and buried" [11:08] tell that MIR ^^ [11:10] :D [11:14] nice read, thanks [11:15] I hear talk by arch users about systemd being so wonderful and fast boot times etc. It is fast, but after installing arch running it was anticlimactic , very stable and for some reason , boring . The attitude in their chatrooms was juvenile and silly, not conducive to learning more about the OS [11:17] did arch ever use upstart? In my experiements with systemd it was fast for sure, but not really any faster than upstart once you had a sufficient amount of services installed [11:17] ^ [11:17] BluesKaj: that's the general attitude thowards anything in #archlinux [11:18] I only go there as a last resort [11:20] ovidiu-florin, it's unfortunate that their chats are dominated by smug, arrogant and childish members :( [11:20] they are not all like that, but most of them are [11:21] that's why I mostly hang out in #archlinux.ro [11:21] local channel [11:21] right [11:27] smartboyhw: your fix is wrong btw [11:34] shadeslayer: oh? [11:34] !find telepathy-glib/channel.h saucy [11:34] File telepathy-glib/channel.h found in libtelepathy-glib-dev [11:35] smartboyhw: yes, we don't want to build with farstream 1.0 [11:35] mmm? [11:35] shadeslayer: oh [11:35] dafuq? [11:35] !? [11:36] smartboyhw: think about how to fix it [11:36] I have a workaround [11:37] shadeslayer: What farstream version do you want then? [11:37] libtelepathy-farstream-0.4-dev [11:37] What? [11:38] I thought the patch and the debian/control works [11:38] * smartboyhw doesn't understand [11:38] it works, but it's wrong [11:39] smartboyhw: try fixing the problem without modifying the build depends [11:39] shadeslayer: :O [11:39] * smartboyhw doesn't have time for this then, sorru [11:39] &sorry [11:48] shadeslayer: I just have a think of it, does that involve symlinks? [11:48] no [11:48] install files? [11:48] no [11:49] stop guessing :P [11:49] look at the diff :) [11:49] shadeslayer: LOL [11:50] shadeslayer: eh, where is it? [11:50] * smartboyhw still sees -1ubuntu1 in Launchpad [11:50] I didn't upload it [11:50] still playing with the package [11:51] trying to figure out a better way to fix [11:51] shadeslayer: Eh, where's the diff? [11:51] https://launchpadlibrarian.net/148074060/ktp-call-ui_0.6.3-0ubuntu1_0.6.3-1ubuntu1.diff.gz [11:52] shadeslayer: [11:52] +CMAKE_FLAGS := \ [11:52] + -DTP_FARSTREAM_INCLUDE_DIRS=/usr/include/telepathy-1.0 \ [11:52] ? [11:53] bingo [11:54] :O [11:54] Wow [11:54] * smartboyhw likse CMAKE flags:P [11:58] if you drop that flag, it works [11:58] but if I change it to /usr/include/telepathy-1.0-compat it fails [11:58] shadeslayer: oh [12:17] hm [12:29] smartboyhw: le fixed https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ktp-call-ui/0.6.3-1ubuntu2 [12:29] https://launchpadlibrarian.net/148242575/ktp-call-ui_0.6.3-1ubuntu1_0.6.3-1ubuntu2.diff.gz < incase you want to see how I fixed it [12:29] shadeslayer: \o/ [12:29] I am unsure why debian explicitly defines those variables [12:30] shadeslayer: better contact Debian for that. [12:38] can't create a sid pbuilder :M [12:38] :S [12:38] yofel: E: Release signed by unknown key (key id 8B48AD6246925553) [12:38] why the heck is that happening o_o [12:38] wrong keyring [12:38] ? [12:39] :O [12:39] well, I'm using the pbuilderrc that all of us use [12:39] with the ninjas modificatiosn [12:39] shadeslayer: http://paste.kde.org/pcaf4cab7/ line 95 ff [12:39] uh, I use my own one ^^ [12:39] asame thing [12:40] hm [12:40] *shrug* [12:40] I: Valid Release signature (key id A1BD8E9D78F7FE5C3E65D8AF8B48AD6246925553) [12:40] wait [12:40] yofel: which release is that? [12:40] because I'm trying to make a sid pbuilder] [12:41] I'm on saucy and tried to make sid i386 [12:41] ololol [12:42] I moved "${DEBOOTSTRAPOPTS[@]}" to the top ( it was at the bottom ) [12:42] and it worked -.- [12:42] HEH [12:42] ah, it's probably setting the wrong keyring in there ^^ [12:42] probably [12:43] forget probably, /usr/share/pbuilder/pbuilderrc line 91 [12:45] -.- [12:45] yofel: shadeslayer: So, looking at the Tanglu wiki, you only got 3 people working?:O [12:45] yeah [12:45] and I don't work [12:45] haven't done anything lately [12:46] make that 1.5, ximion is 1, shadeslayer is 0.2, I am 0.3 [12:46] :P [12:46] Uh [12:46] well, add +0.1 for dantti [12:46] I have no fricking idea why live build isn't working [12:46] okay well, I might, but I have no idea how to fix it [12:46] * smartboyhw is amazed that you can make contributor amounts down to 0.1 when there's 4 people:O [12:47] shadeslayer: What's the prob? [12:47] also, we're talking in the wrong channel really ^^ [12:48] Yeah, you realized that. [12:48] !ot | shadeslayer yofel smartboyhw [12:48] shadeslayer yofel smartboyhw: #kubuntu-devel is the development channel for Kubuntu, please use #kubuntu for support questions and #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks [12:48] LOL LOL [12:48] ^^ [12:52] the build works fine without the extra cmake variable [12:52] shadeslayer: \o/ [12:53] in debian sid [12:54] Oh === ghostcube_ is now known as ghostcube [13:07] lol, I forgot to remove the template lines [13:07] :( [13:07] http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=720578 [13:07] Debian bug 720578 in ktp-call-ui "ktp-call-ui has useless extra cmake arguments in debian/rules" [Normal,Open] [13:08] hah [13:08] shadeslayer: fault! [13:10] :) [14:23] yofel: what do you make of http://paste.kde.org/p6e16f79d/ [14:24] I have no idea what's trying to gain su privilliges with the user shadesla since I don't have that user :S [14:24] LOL [14:26] shadeslayer: @_@ [14:26] yofel: ?? [14:26] first time I see that.. [14:28] * shadeslayer installs rkhunter and chkrootkit [14:34] O_O [14:34] Searching for Suckit rootkit... Warning: /sbin/init INFECTED [14:38] O-O [14:38] apparently a false positive [14:42] smartboyhw: yofel do you have a /dev/.initramfs ? [14:43] yes [14:43] or a /dev/.udev/rules.d/root.rules [14:43] dito [14:48] shadeslayer: I have also [14:48] Both files [14:48] cool [14:49] *looks* like I'm safe :) [15:53] hello, i need someone to test the issue [15:54] qtdesigner runs akonadi server on it's start [15:57] how to reproduce: 1) run "akonadictl stop" 2) run "designer-qt4" 3) find akonadi among the running processes [16:07] does anyone happen to know is there a way to deactivate my ubuntu.com/kubuntu.org address, it makes it hard for me to properly handle spam [16:08] i can't see anything obvious in launchpad [16:18] seaLne: I'd ask on #launchpad. [16:19] not sure if you are supposed to be able to do it through launchpad or some other way