[00:00] <dobbie> LOL, I have only Linux installed on my PC. I need Linux Utility to put windows 7 ISO on my flash for further WINDOWS 7 installation from USB
[00:00] <dobbie> thats the problem
[00:01] <Dictator> yeah, i had the problem before too and unebootin and startip disk creator seems to only works for linux boot USBs
[00:02] <enen92> has anyone used vftpd for a ftp server? I'm kind of struggling here with the configuration
[00:02] <hdd3> hello, im still trying to mount my ext3 hdd can anyone help? none is shown in fdisk
[00:04] <Dictator> hdd3, try to replug it
[00:04] <jrib> enen92: why do you want an ftp server?
[00:04] <Frank_Leonardo> .....
[00:05] <ejv> enen92: what issue are you having?
[00:05] <hdd3> Dictator i tried this already
[00:05] <ejv> enen92: vsftpd is well documented
[00:05] <Dictator> there are a lot of ops on the Ubuntu channel you would think to earn their ops they would have to actually help users, is there even a schedule ops have to help users or can they just help someone every couple of weeks and still get the op privileges?
[00:06] <enen92> well basically I'm trying to set my ipcamera to send files over ftp to my laptop
[00:06] <enen92> however the cam creates a directory with: mkdir /name_of_directory
[00:06] <enen92> which is denied by the server
[00:06] <enen92> as an attempt of writting to the root folder
[00:07] <enen92> as I can't change that...I'm trying to set the ftp client to the home directory
[00:08] <hdd3> Dictator, do you know somebody who could help?
[00:08] <cconsta|work> Hey guys, I made the mistake of doing an 'apt-get install syslog-ng' and now that package is stuck in a state where it can't finish installing (can't open /proc/kmsg, even though the file exists) and it won't uninstall because it can't finish configuring.  Help?
[00:08] <ejv> jrib: remember that mysql upgrade failure from a few weeks ago you were trying to assist with?
[00:08] <jrib> ejv: vaguely
[00:08] <ejv> jrib: assist *ME* with
[00:09] <ejv> jrib: recap, dpkg was completely failing to let me upgrade, well the solution was clearing out old kernels/images; i had a full /boot partition, preventing dpkg from resolving its various build/install dependencies
[00:09] <jrib> ejv: I see.  Cool.
[00:10] <MicroB> Hi there, Just a quick question..Where does ubuntu 12.04 LTS store the installation files on windows? I have NOT installed ubuntu yet but my hard disk space went from 20GB to 10GB
[00:10] <MicroB> This only happened when going through the setup, before the partition stage
[00:10] <ejv> jrib: yup, as soon as i cleared out /boot; i was able to rebuild mysql-server
[00:10] <ejv> MicroB: sounds like the installer performed a disk resize
[00:10] <MicroB> Can you undo it? @ejv
[00:11] <Dictator> hdd3, i don't... if you can't find help on here you are not even allowed to ask another ubuntu channel, so i guess you can try Linux Mint help at server irc.spotchat.org on channels #linuxmint-help
[00:11] <ejv> MicroB: me, unfortunately not, im at work ;)
[00:11] <MicroB> lol I meant is it easily to revert?
[00:13] <MicroB> @ejv, Having a look at my disk management, there hasn't been a new partition created...?
[00:17] <wilee-nilee> MicroB, This a virtual install, the info is rather full of hole like a piece of swiss cheeses.
[00:17] <wilee-nilee> holes
[00:18] <MicroB> haha, apologies. Its a Live CD install on a Windows 7 single partition(with 100 MB reserved partition). @wilee-nilee
[00:18] <wilee-nilee> MicroB, ubuntu stores no files in windows.
[00:19] <wilee-nilee> unless a wubi or virtual in windows
[00:19] <MicroB> wilee-nilee, Why'd the space decrease though?
[00:19] <wilee-nilee> MicroB, Not sure your info is basically empty.
[00:19] <MicroB> Could it be because when it said something about previous changed being written to disk
[00:19] <MicroB> meant that it would be writing something to the hard disk..?
[00:20] <wilee-nilee> MicroB, This is a windows question, it is attached to ubuntu, you have not installed it right, or resized windows right?
[00:20] <wilee-nilee> you have attached it rather
[00:20] <MicroB> it may be the resizing, I guess? Let me try it out I guess
[00:21] <MicroB> It did say the "max" should be 20% or something
[00:21] <wilee-nilee> MicroB, You should be resizing in windows the windos partition then rebooting it to make sure it is okay, leaving a unallocated space for ubuntu.
[00:22] <MicroB> wilee-nilee, My amateurness was not aware of this and I sort of went blind by just burning an iso and changing the boot order
[00:22] <Dictator> MicroB, maybe try CCleaner to clean your system of temporary files
[00:23] <wilee-nilee> MicroB, The ubuntu installer can resize windows however on occasion that causes problems is all.
[00:23] <usr13> MicroB: And defrag
[00:23] <MicroB> I've got a SSD, should I be defragging it..?
[00:23] <MicroB> usr13: ^
[00:23] <wilee-nilee> optimizing it
[00:23] <usr13> backup and defrag
[00:23] <Dictator> bleachbit from Linux cannot compare to CCleaner for Windows
[00:24] <Ari-Yang> Dictator, what do you mean temporary files? you mean required deps that aren't needed anymore? I think apt-get autoremove cleans all of that out.
[00:24] <usr13> Does "compare apples to oranges" come to mind?
[00:24] <Dictator> MicroB, if you know what you are doing you can also use GParted to eared the partition Ubuntu created on your computer
[00:24] <wilee-nilee> MicroB, This is W7 right?
[00:25] <MicroB> wilee-nilee: Yes it is
[00:25] <Dictator> erase*
[00:25] <wilee-nilee> MicroB, It will only optimize the ssd thats what you want.
[00:25] <MicroB> Dictator: I had read about GParted so will give that a go
[00:25] <MicroB> I thought defragging an SSD is a big no no..?
[00:25] <qin> Dictator: What's CCleaner?
[00:25] <Dictator> MicroB, but maybe you installed Ubuntu Wubi, which just needs to be uninstalled from Windows
[00:25] <usr13> MicroB: Using GParted is part of Ubuntu's install process.
[00:26] <wilee-nilee> MicroB, optimozing is not defragging and you are correct.
[00:26] <Ari-Yang> Dictator, also there's apt-get autoclean
[00:26] <Ari-Yang> man apt-get
[00:26] <Ari-Yang> to see the options etc
[00:26] <compdoc> cconsta|work, if there's no one here who can answer, be sure to try the mailing list
[00:26] <Dictator> http://download.cnet.com/CCleaner/
[00:26] <compdoc> ooops, I was scrolled back
[00:26] <qin> Dictator: isnot cnet spyware bank?
[00:26] <wilee-nilee> Dictator, Not a wubi, I asked already no install yet.
[00:26] <n31318> Hello?
[00:26] <n31318> I need of assistance.
[00:27] <wilee-nilee> n31318, State the issues for help.
[00:27] <usr13> n31318: Ask away
[00:27] <n31318> My Ubuntu 13.04 Intel Pro/100 internet drivers won't work
[00:27] <MicroB> Dictator:  As wilee-nilee  said, I've not installed yet which is what I find strange but my hard drive space lowered by 10 GB
[00:27] <MicroB> I'll try out the optimizing
[00:27] <usr13> n31318: Fully updated?
[00:27] <compdoc> n31318, did you install a driver?
[00:28] <n31318> no
[00:28] <wilee-nilee> MicroB, I suspect you are using two different measurements of the HD rsize ight
[00:28] <wilee-nilee> size*
[00:28] <usr13> n31318: If not;  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[00:28] <MicroB> wilee-nilee: I was using the windows one on my computer
[00:29] <n31318> i cant
[00:29] <n31318> i have no internet
[00:29] <wilee-nilee> MicroB, the same one with both measurements
[00:29] <MicroB> wilee-nilee: Yes, same for both
[00:29] <palebluedot> hi all, i'm trying to use git with etckeeper. if i manually commit via sudo git, git picks up my git username and email from the env vars. if i use sudo apt-get and install, it uses a different user (the local user and @localhost). does anyone know how to change this?
[00:29] <usr13> n31318: What do you need Intel Pro/100 if you do not have internet?
[00:29] <Dictator> MicroB, if your computer is lower spec, maybe you can try Lubuntu, or even Bodhi Linux in the future were are more lightweight
[00:29] <n31318> I do
[00:29] <usr13> *why*
[00:29] <n31318> im saying that i cant connect to it
[00:30] <wilee-nilee> MicroB, Not sure other than some call 1000MB a gig some call 1024 MB a gig
[00:30] <usr13> n31318:  Wired or WiFi?
[00:30] <n31318> WiFi
[00:30] <compdoc> n31318, did you add the card recently? did it ever work?
[00:30] <n31318> yes
[00:30] <compdoc> ahh
[00:30] <n31318> when i had windows
[00:30] <usr13> n31318: This computer you have, does it have an ethernet port?
[00:30] <MicroB> Dictator:  My laptop is up to the spec certainly, but thank you for your suggestion
[00:30] <n31318> yes
[00:30] <compdoc> Intel Pro/100 wifi?
[00:30] <usr13> n31318: Do you have a router?
[00:31] <n31318> i have a netgear adapter connected to it
[00:31] <n31318> of course lol
[00:31] <usr13> n31318: Do you have an ethernet cable?
[00:31] <n31318> yes
[00:31] <n31318> wait
[00:31] <MicroB> wilee-nilee:  I would say the second one, but from just looking at my computer before inserting the CD I knew I had 20 gb free, after inserting the cd and going through a few steps of the installation, I have 10 GB free
[00:31] <usr13> n31318: Plug it in.
[00:31]  * wilee-nilee just loves when two many try to help a project already working fine
[00:31] <onetime> Is there a channel for help reporting bugs?  I need to report one on ubuntu.com
[00:31] <n31318> it is plugged in
[00:31] <onetime> I just don't know what package to file it against
[00:31] <usr13> n31318: ifconfig
[00:31] <n31318> ermm
[00:32] <n31318> anyway to share screen shots?
[00:32] <wilee-nilee> MicroB, YOu HD should have more free space than that anyway, filling it up especially a ssd is not good.
[00:32] <usr13> n31318: Open a terminal, type   ifconfig   tell us what it says?
[00:32] <n31318> aighty then
[00:32] <n31318> its a lot to type
[00:32] <compdoc> pastebin.org
[00:32] <usr13> n31318: Does it show an IP address?
[00:32] <n31318> no
[00:33] <usr13> n31318: sudo dhclient eth0
[00:33] <wilee-nilee> MicroB,HOw many gigs is the ssd?
[00:33] <usr13> n31318: Now does it?
[00:33] <n31318> just wait
[00:33] <n31318> it's thinking
[00:33] <MicroB> wilee-nilee:  Thanks, let me try out the resizing one more time. Also as its got 128 GB the OS and some key programs took up a LOT of spcae
[00:33] <onetime> Nevermind, found it. ubuntudeveloperportal
[00:33] <MicroB> leaving me with ~30 GB
[00:34] <Karpuragauram> what does the 1 and 2 mean here ? ==  here is what I have -- drwxrwxr-x 2 basant basant 4096 Aug 22 20:17 Basant site       and   -rw-r--r-- 1 basant basant  5120 Aug 22 20:17 basantBackup.db
[00:34] <n31318> is the terminal supposed to freeze up for a lil bit?
[00:34] <usr13> n31318: Yes
[00:34] <n31318> on a 1GBps SSD?
[00:34] <n31318> oh ok
[00:34] <PapaSierra> i'm trying to create a user only if he doesn't already exist. this is what i've got: id -u nginx &>/dev/null || adduser --system --no-create-home nginx
[00:34] <usr13> n31318: Does your router have a dhcp server running on it?
[00:34] <n31318> ill wait then
[00:34] <PapaSierra> it's not quite right
[00:34] <usr13> n31318: (Should have connected by now.)
[00:35] <n31318> man linux is a beauty lol
[00:35] <wilee-nilee> MicroB, Do you have another HD on board?
[00:35] <wilee-nilee> or an externa;
[00:35] <usr13> n31318: Still not connected?
[00:35] <MicroB> wilee-nilee:  Nope, Just the one, its a laptop so didn't have many more options for storage
[00:35] <n31318> ehh
[00:35] <n31318> its still thinking i presume
[00:35] <n31318> lemme check my system monitor
[00:36] <qin> PapaSierra: && ?
[00:36] <usr13> n31318: Did you hint Enter key?
[00:36] <n31318> yes
[00:36] <usr13> n31318: Maybe the eithernet cable is bad.
[00:36] <MicroB> I was going to use a spare USB for linux but wanted to see where the 9 GB went
[00:36] <usr13> n31318: Try another.
[00:36] <MicroB> wilee-nilee:  ^
[00:36] <wilee-nilee> MicroB, Cool, there are just limitations on filling up a hard drive is all, no one really agrees on this but it is something to be aware of is all.
[00:36] <n31318> or maybe plug it into another port?
[00:37] <n31318> i have 10 usb ports lol
[00:37] <PapaSierra> qin: really? i'm not sure, because if the l.h.s equates to false then i want the r.h.s to run. if it's && then it will exit asap and never run the r.h.s
[00:37] <n31318> oh i just noticed something
[00:37] <qin> PapaSierra: but if would be much safer
[00:37] <usr13> n31318: Yes...............?
[00:37] <PapaSierra> qin right, how do i user if?
[00:37] <n31318> the netgear network adapter isn't flashing
[00:37] <MicroB> wilee-nilee: I'll try out the installation one more time and research the previous changes part. Thanks though for the help! :D
[00:37] <n31318> it's not even on
[00:38] <usr13> Is this a laptop or desktop?
[00:38] <n31318> it turns on when its booting up however
[00:38] <n31318> desktop
[00:38] <qin> PapaSierra:  id -u $USER && echo foo;  id -u someone && echo foo
[00:38] <hdd3> hello
[00:39] <usr13> n31318: But you have an ethernet cable going from the ethernet port on the PC to the router.  Right?
[00:39] <hdd3> i would be eternally grateful if somebody could help me with my external hdd
[00:39] <n31318> oh no
[00:39] <usr13> n31318: (... plugged into a LAN port on the router. Right? )
[00:39] <n31318> nono
[00:39] <n31318> im not near a router
[00:39] <usr13> n31318: Well plug it in.
[00:39] <n31318> and cant get access to one
[00:39] <PapaSierra> qin i'm not sure that that's doing? and what is $USER?
[00:40] <usr13> n31318: I thought you just said you had an ethernet cable.  ?>????
[00:40] <usr13> n31318: How are you talking to us now?
[00:40] <qin> PapaSierra: echo $USER; tshows acctual user; try with real and unreal user
[00:40] <n31318> is there ant other way to do it without a router connected directly?
[00:40] <n31318> iphone
[00:41] <PapaSierra> qin right, i tried with root and i see 0 foo (user id followed by foo because, yes, root exists)
[00:41] <usr13> n31318: Oh, I'm sure there is, but I wouldn't attempt to help you, would be too complicated.
[00:41] <n31318> nahnah just tell meh
[00:41] <usr13> n31318: Sorry.
[00:41] <n31318> im willing to listen
[00:41] <usr13> n31318: Is there any thing else we can help you with?
[00:42] <n31318> hmm
[00:42] <n31318> well the network card can be read and so can the ethernet
[00:42] <wilee-nilee> hdd3, this is associated with mint right?
[00:42] <usr13> n31318: "the network card can be read and so can the ethernet"?
[00:42] <n31318> i tried sudo modprobe e100
[00:42] <PapaSierra> qin yeah this is give the right behavior id -u someone &>/dev/null || echo foo
[00:42] <n31318> still nothing
[00:42] <mmatters> anyone used alsa with ladspa plugins ?
[00:43] <n31318> yes
[00:43] <n31318> idk
[00:43] <n31318> its weird
[00:43] <n31318> it could be that i need to set it up manually
[00:43] <usr13> n31318: After you finish doing updates, come back and we will assist you in any possible.
[00:43] <n31318> you know where i can do that?
[00:43] <usr13> n31318: iwconfig
[00:43] <usr13> n31318: What does   iwconfig  say?
[00:44] <n31318> lo - no wireless extensions eth0 - no wireless extensions
[00:44] <usr13> n31318: Ok.  As I said before;  Connect your PC to the internet and we can help you.
[00:45] <hdd3> wilee-nilee, no, ubuntu
[00:45] <n31318> :/
[00:45] <n31318> i cant though
[00:45] <usr13> n31318: What does    lspci   say about your wireless device?
[00:45] <n31318> uhh lemme look through this
[00:45] <n31318> it reads it
[00:45] <usr13> n31318: Yea, what does it say about your wireless device?
[00:45] <xmetal> hmm
[00:46] <wilee-nilee> hdd3, State the issues to the channel for help then, and mint although a derivative of ubuntu is not ubuntu or supported here, I saw a earlier mention of mint is why I ask.
[00:46] <PapaSierra> qin so the issue is actually because i'm using capistrano. the command i posted initially works perfect *if logged in with ssh* but not using capistrano
[00:46] <maxi12> a
[00:46] <maxi12> a
[00:46] <maxi12> a
[00:46] <maxi12> a
[00:46] <FloodBot1> maxi12: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:47] <hdd3> wilee-nilee, what channel???
[00:47] <n31318> hello?
[00:47] <Dictator> hdd3, i don't... if you can't find help on here you are not even allowed to ask another ubuntu channel, so i guess you can try Linux Mint help at server irc.spotchat.org on channels #linuxmint-help
[00:47] <n31318> Ethernet Controller: Intel Corporation 82562ET/EZ/GT/GZ - pro/100 VE (LOM) - Is what it reads
[00:47] <Dante123> Hi all....got lenovo y510p laptop with 16gb ram.
[00:48] <wilee-nilee> !mint | hdd3
[00:48] <Dante123> What to do about swap?
[00:48] <hdd3> Dictator, it has nothing to do with mint
[00:48] <n31318> :/ crap he left
[00:48] <hdd3> wilee-nilee, i never actually used mint...
[00:49] <Dante123> Should I make on 16gb on laptop?
[00:49] <Dante123> One
[00:49] <wilee-nilee> hdd3, Cool, Im not sure what is up with the "Dictator" but cross posting is only not liked, is all tell us the problem.
[00:49] <n31318> crap :/
[00:50] <HackerII> you can change swapiness, other than that, let it configure itself
[00:50] <usr13> n31318:  lsmod |grep 100
[00:51] <usr13> n31318: What does ^^^^ say?
[00:51] <Dante123> If I choose a partition that is currently ext4 to install Ubuntu the installer will configure its own swap?
[00:51] <xmetal> the plkace your talking now
[00:51] <xmetal> place too
[00:51] <xmetal> wow @ lag here
[00:51] <n31318> hmm?
[00:51] <n31318> oh
[00:51] <Dictator> Dante123, yeah i think
[00:51] <Microb> wilee-nilee: Hey, I just had a look and it seems that there is some "free space" but I cannot assign it back to windows, which ubuntu made?
[00:51] <hdd3> its maybe that I accidentally formatted an external ext3 hd, when i wanted to format another ext hd of the same size to ntfs, wilee-nilee, and now i the ext3 is not shown in fdisc anymore, i want to mount it but i cant
[00:52] <n31318> it says
[00:52] <Microb> Here's the screens I see http://imgur.com/a/7PHIf
[00:52] <wilee-nilee> Microb, It was made if you told it to, sounds like you did.
[00:52] <n31318> e100     35903 0
[00:52] <n31318> is what it says
[00:52] <hdd3> * wilee-nilee, it does not show in fdisk -l
[00:52] <Dictator> Microb, Gparted
[00:53] <wilee-nilee> hdd3, Can you use a gui like gparted.
[00:53] <Microb> Dictator:  Just trying it out now, Thanks.
[00:53] <usr13> n31318: Well, I don't know.  If I were you, I'd get an ethernet cable, plug into your router, do updates and go from there.  ( sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade )
[00:54] <hdd3> wilee-nilee, first thing i tried dosnt show there, doesnt show in system monitor, no matter how often ii switch it on/off or replug... :(
[00:54] <usr13> n31318: After updates are done, reboot.
[00:54] <n31318> :/
[00:54] <n31318> so theres no way to do it without a router?
[00:54] <fermulator> Recently I've been installing gnome-shell (gnome3) -- Unfortunately I added the PPA, which I guess is the "unstable"/"testing" branch (ppa:gnome3-team/gnome3). Since then, I ran a purge against the PPA, and now I'm unable to re-install the Ubuntu stable version of gnome-shell, getting package dependency issues.  http://pastebin.com/MEQVwJJY.  Does anyone have experience here? (I've tried several things from Google including: autoremove, clean, update,
[00:54] <fermulator>  dpkg --configure -a, apt-get install -f , ....
[00:54] <usr13> n31318:  Maybe someone else here will have some other advice...
[00:55] <Dictator> hdd3, i don't think windows can read ext3 files, only NTFS, FAT..etc
[00:55] <usr13> If someone else as advice for   n31318  please let him know.
[00:55] <n31318> :/ yup
[00:55] <n31318> wait!
[00:55] <n31318> i have the intel pro linux tar!
[00:55] <hdd3> Dictator, I Am not talking about windows
[00:55] <qin> PapaSierra: http://superuser.com/questions/336275/find-out-if-user-name-exists
[00:55] <qin> sorry for delay
[00:55] <n31318> tar.gz files
[00:55] <fermulator> There are tools to read extX in Windows
[00:56] <n31318> usr13?
[00:56] <usr13> n31318: Yes.
[00:56] <hdd3> the problem is the hd doesnt show
[00:56] <fermulator> I've used: Ext2Fds, Ext2IFS, and Linux_Reader
[00:56] <n31318> i have the intel drivers
[00:56] <n31318> how do i install them?
[00:56] <n31318> its a tar file with src in it
[00:57] <Dictator> .
[00:57] <usr13> n31318: Well, first unpack the file.  tar xvf file-name.tar.gz
[00:57] <PapaSierra> qin that's pretty good, ideally it should be a command rather than script, but i'm reading the link now...
[00:57] <fermulator> n31318, did Intel provide a readme? - there should be instructions included with the drivers on how to install the modules
[00:57] <usr13> n31318: cd resulting-directory-name/  && less README.txt
[00:58] <Foxhoundz> I need help
[00:58] <Foxhoundz> I installed Ubuntu Gnome Remix on 13.04
[00:58] <Foxhoundz> it was working fine for a while
[00:58] <Dictator> hdd3, can gparted see the drive?
[00:58] <Foxhoundz> but now when I get to the login screen
[00:58] <Foxhoundz> it doesn't respond
[00:58] <n31318> wait
[00:58] <Foxhoundz> mouse moves, but nothing is responding ( keyboard + mouse )
[00:58] <qin> PapaSierra: chown on the end, and all acriptsyou can write as oneliner
[00:59] <usr13> n31318: But bascially, the driver module is more-than-likely built into the kenrnel and you more-than-likely just need to do updates.
[00:59] <qin> PapaSierra: also /j #bash may help
[00:59] <hdd3> Dictator, no, and system monitor cant either
[00:59] <PapaSierra> qin you're referring the chown right at the bottom of the page?
[00:59] <PapaSierra> i'll check out #bash
[00:59] <PapaSierra> ty v m
[01:00] <qin> PapaSierra: yes
[01:00] <Dictator> maybe, its a hardware issue like USB plug or the HDD itself
[01:00] <usr13> n31318: See my PM
[01:01] <Foxhoundz> :(
[01:02] <Dictator> hdd3, maybe try a liveCD and see if that recognizes it
[01:02] <Mnemon> hdd3: can you even see the device? (/dev/sdb or something)
[01:02] <hdd3> Dictator, already did that :(
[01:02] <johnjohn101> is this where we get support for kubuntu?
[01:03] <hdd3> Mnemon, no, it should be sdc, sdb is internal, it doesnt show sdc anywhere
[01:03] <Mnemon> hdd3: checked dmesg?
[01:04] <Mnemon> sounds like the device is broken or there's some issue in recognizing it
[01:04] <hdd3> Mnemon, cant really read it but i guess there was nothing, wanna see?
[01:04] <Mnemon> sure
[01:04] <Dictator> is there are way to see if the bios can see it?
[01:05] <Gamara> Hello anyone able to help me get my c615 logitech webcams microphone working with skype, the only option I see in skype under sound is pulse audio, so I downloaded the volume control and manager for pulse audio, I checked pulse audio volume control and no recording device is showing up.
[01:05] <SilverSlimer> johnjohn101, i'll assume #kubuntu is the channel
[01:05] <johnjohn101> thank you.  i just joined there.
[01:06] <hdd3> Mnemon: was too long for terminal, but here it is... :) http://pastebin.com/0VpUmQHL
[01:08] <Mnemon> hdd3: replug it and see if you get more of [ 1519.052033] usb 4-2: device descriptor read/64, error -71 or [ 1520.480037] usb 4-2: device not accepting address 12, error -71 etc.
[01:09] <Mnemon> if yes: http://paulphilippov.com/articles/how-to-fix-device-not-accepting-address-error
[01:10] <hdd3> Mnemon, ok thx
[01:10] <Gamara> what is pulse audio server (local)
[01:11] <Mnemon> Gamara: it's the server that handles sound on ubuntu.
[01:12] <Gamara> Thanks Mnemon
[01:13] <hdd3> Mnemon, i guess its the same output : http://pastebin.com/zDuyyg0j
[01:15] <Mnemon> hdd3: strange, you should get something there when you plug in a device :P
[01:15] <Mnemon> tried it in any other machine/port?
[01:16] <fermulator> Found answer to my gnome-shell issue -- http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=205&t=107380
[01:16] <hdd3> i actually just switched it off and on again, Mnemon, yes i tried it on a 11.10 live cd
[01:17] <Mnemon> try switching to different usb port if possible
[01:18] <Mnemon> if you get nothing there, it's almost certainly a hardware problem with your usb hub or the drive.
[01:19] <hdd3> Mnemon: Sorry heres another try, it duplicated the message. : http://pastebin.com/w3PQ0XWg
[01:20] <Karpuragauram> 1. will cron retry missed things   2. will it execute ( supposing daily event) the event of next day if it misses the current one
[01:20] <jrib> Karpuragauram: no.  Check out anacron for that
[01:24] <Mnemon> hdd3: k, then i'd suggest trying the stuff in the link i posted(turn the computer off, unplug power, wait a moment, replug everything, boot ...) if that fails, you could try usbmon and see if it gives any more information
[01:25] <hdd3> Mnemon: now its in another usb port: http://pastebin.com/F431ZUb0
[01:27] <mork> how do i make my linux system recognise my modem dongle? is it in bash, and what commands do i look for ?
[01:27] <hdd3> Mnemon, what is usbmon?
[01:28] <mork> ...and how do i do it?
[01:29] <n35080> usr 13?
[01:30] <hdd3> Mnemon, that plugging strategy in your link is what i am going to try now...
[01:31] <crunchbang_> hello you
[01:31] <Mnemon> hdd3: kernel module for usb debugging
[01:31] <crunchbang_> i have a lttle problem
[01:31] <hdd3> Mnemon, will u be on in 20 still?
[01:31] <Mnemon> hdd3: unfortunately I gotta catch some Z's ... 5am here :)
[01:32] <Mnemon> laters
[01:32] <crunchbang_> i seach for a programm to comunikate whithe my sky box
[01:32] <hdd3> Mnemon, thx anyway, i hope the power problem will fix it, have a good night its 3:32 am here :)
[01:32] <Mnemon> hehe :)
[01:33] <crunchbang_> is now openbox  the wrong way to sind a a way out of
[01:35] <projectmanga> im having problems connecting to my zaurus pda 5500
[01:36] <projectmanga> i know the problem but im a lazy kid any way to do the simply
[01:38] <wilee-nilee> projectmanga, This a mtp, a we can assume pluggung in it does not show in home?
[01:38] <wilee-nilee> and*
[01:38] <trindaz> When I try running my webserver and binding it to the IP address that EC2 has given my instance I get "That IP address can't be assigned-to"
[01:38] <trindaz> How do I debug that?
[01:39] <trindaz> What permissions would be preventing me binding to my own ip address?
[01:44] <bitrum> how
[01:45] <bitrum> any one installed CVIPtools
[01:45] <bitrum> ?
[01:45] <wilee-nilee> !anyone | bitnumus
[01:47] <wilee-nilee> bitrumTechnically a 3rd party and not supported, however if you can give some details someone may help.
[01:47] <wilee-nilee> ah gone already
[01:49] <mork> what steps to conrtol functionality of usb modems?
[01:49] <wilee-nilee> mork, THat makes no sense, what is your actual problem.
[01:50] <mork> at the command line, since the os doesnt seem to recognise it
[01:50] <wilee-nilee> mork, run lsusb and identify it and post that info.
[01:51] <mork> my os picks up my usb modem only as a usb stick, i want it to know its a modem
[01:51] <hawly> system is recognizing like cdrom instead of modem?
[01:51] <mork> lsusb, comes up not as a modem
[01:51] <hawly> hehe
[01:51] <mork> lol
[01:52] <mork> i dont know sigh
[01:52] <wilee-nilee> mork, hawly Both of you might check the modems on google seraching with the names of it and ubuntu/linux
[01:52] <n35080> does anyone know the software update command?
[01:52] <mork> its saying its just a usb, and not a usb modem, if you understand?
[01:52] <hawly> mork do that comes w/ some sort of driver in it?
[01:52] <n35080> isnt it sudo apt-get install && something?
[01:52] <wilee-nilee> n35080, sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get upgrade
[01:53] <n35080> aight cool bro
[01:53] <n35080> ty
[01:53] <mork> i think it only comes with windows drivers
[01:53] <hawly> mork do you know to conf wvdial?
[01:53] <mork> um, no
[01:53] <hawly> mork thats bad
[01:53] <mork> i can look in  to it, but im not a computer guy
[01:53] <n35080> lol mork
[01:53] <mork> ill try that wvdial
[01:54] <mork> lol
[01:54] <n35080> ubuntu will teach you a lot
[01:54] <n35080> it'll guide you
[01:54] <n35080> trust meg
[01:55] <hawly> mork i know how to make your system bypass "storage role" of your device, to look it like a "modem", but theres no use for it if you cannot conf wvdial!
[01:55] <mork> ive already learnt a lot about computers, and i love ubuntu more than windows already
[01:56] <hawly> ubuntu should have some package ready for "hands free setup" for those cases
[01:56] <mork> lol, i wish i did :)
[01:56] <mork> so, lasyt question...
[01:57] <mork> conf and wvdial are commands at the command line, and  i need to study them?
[01:57] <illpoet> hi! does anyone have a good link or suggestion on the problem im having where it says there are wireless networks available and asks for the password, but when i type in the password it just disconnects and asks again?
[01:57] <hawly> mork browse for 3G modems on foruns
[01:58] <mork> i did, till i was on the edge of tears, i better man up and go back to the forums.. bye all!!
[01:58] <mork> and thanks heaps
[01:58] <hawly> mork wvdial is a dialer program - it have a configuration file that must to be edited to use your partilcular operator
[01:59] <mork> slike ifconfig, i see
[01:59] <Freeder> Is there a way, via a single command, to delete all files AND hidden files in a directory?
[01:59] <hawly> mork ifconfig is more low level - if you can, i encourage you
[01:59] <mork> bye bye
[01:59] <projectmanga> sorry long response yes it will not show in the file manager
[02:00] <hawly> man, this chan is sooo active - gotta rest my eyes
[02:00] <hawly> bye
[02:01] <HERIQUE> OIII
[02:01] <HERIQUE> OIIII
[02:01] <wilee-nilee> illpoet, clear any there now.
[02:02] <Freeder> Is there a way, via a single command, to delete all files AND hidden files in a directory?
[02:02] <illpoet> willee-nilee so clear the connection thats showing up then create a new one?
[02:02] <wilee-nilee> Freeder, yes but we are not supposed to post those.
[02:02] <dante123> hi all, I installed Ubuntu 13.04 on new lenovo y510p.  I can boot into Ubuntu, but it would not boot from grub menu into windows 8.  followed instructions on simple help website to run boot repair.  this did make new entries but the one they say I should run labelled "Windows boot UEFI loader“ does not show up, just other ones?
[02:02] <wilee-nilee> illpoet, ant passwords there now.
[02:03] <wilee-nilee> any
[02:03] <Freeder> wilee-nilee: uh... huh?
[02:03] <wilee-nilee> illovae, sometimes the wifi gets confused, make sure you are usi the wep or wpa your supposed to.
[02:04] <wilee-nilee> Freeder, there is a common wipe command.
[02:04] <wilee-nilee> look it up
[02:04] <illpoet> willee: no, when i log on it says wireless connection detected then asks for a wpa2 key or password. but when i type in the password it just disconnects and asks again
[02:04] <Freeder> I'm just trying to merge rm -rf * && rm -rf .* into one command instead of two
[02:04] <Freeder> common wipe?
[02:04] <wilee-nilee> illovae, sometimes the wifi gets confused clear it
[02:05] <dante123> any uefi experts around?
[02:05] <wilee-nilee> Freeder, right and thise commands are asked to be not discussed here.
[02:05] <Freeder> wilee-nilee, just want to make sure you don't think I'm trying to zeroize an entire disk, just a single dir
[02:05] <wilee-nilee> dante123, State the issues.
[02:05] <projectmanga> i will repeat my problem my computer is recognizing my zaurus pda sl-5500  i know the problem but im trying to find a single command to do that
[02:05] <wilee-nilee> Is there a way, via a single command, to delete all files AND hidden files in a directory? is what I read
[02:06] <projectmanga> is not recognizing sorry
[02:06] <sam__> okay , wilee-nilee, this is dante on the y510p
[02:06] <Freeder> right... ie, is there a flag that for rm that does the same thing as rm -rf * && rm -rf .*
[02:06] <Freeder> I don't need some crazy zeroize command
[02:06] <sam__> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6016153/
[02:07] <illpoet> im thinking maybe i should try the actual security key vs just the pwd i use to connect my windows computers to the router
[02:07] <wilee-nilee> sam__, I know nothing about uefi, regular mbr I do, if you do not get help here the best is at the ubuntu forums.
[02:08] <sam__> okay.  here is the image for what they say I should see, but i am missing the line they want me to use
[02:08] <sam__> http://www.simplehelp.net/images/fix_ubuntu_boot_error/img14.jpg
[02:16]  * wilee-nilee looks for his tinfoil fez
[02:17] <wilee-nilee> heh wrong channel
[02:17] <dante123> wilee-nilee if I choose one of the windows options is does boot win 8 but seems much slower than before
[02:19] <projectmanga> can anyone relate to my problems
[02:21] <zy_guy> im trying to get 24 bit color depth with xubuntu 13.04 and I can't seem to get it can someone help please?
[02:21] <lhx> Question: Anyone tell me which kernel headers package will keep me with the default headers?
[02:26] <qin> lhx: latest? what is your default in grub?
[02:27] <projectmanga> i will repeat my problem my computer is not recognizing my zaurus pda sl-5500  i know the problem but im trying to find a single command to do that
[02:34] <lotuspsychje> morning all
[02:34] <mjg31337> hi
[02:35] <jennie> hello
[02:35] <lotuspsychje> jennie: hi what can we do for you?
[02:36] <jennie> how to uninstall ubuntu without effecting GRUB because ever since I installed ubuntu from 11.10(some version) I am getting error 'sorry internal program crashed send report' I also ran full update after it but still it never goes so I want to uninstall ubuntu and use something else, I have dual boot so I am asking how to preserve dual boot and uninstall ubuntu
[02:37] <lotuspsychje> !eol | jennie
[02:37] <projectmanga> i feel ignored
[02:37] <wilee-nilee> jennie, Whats the other OS?
[02:37] <jennie> windows7
[02:37] <lotuspsychje> projectmanga: re-ask your question here once in a while mate
[02:37] <projectmanga> i will repeat my problem my computer is not recognizing my zaurus pda sl-5500  i know the problem but im trying to find a single command to do that
[02:38] <lotuspsychje> projectmanga: what ubuntu version?
[02:38] <wilee-nilee> jennie, grub wont boot windows with a linux os there basically you need to reload the mbr with the windows bootloader.
[02:38] <projectmanga> 13.04
[02:38] <wilee-nilee> without*
[02:38] <lotuspsychje> projectmanga: fully updated?
[02:38] <projectmanga> yes
[02:38] <wilee-nilee> jennie, If you want another linux it will reinstall grub.
[02:38] <jennie> right now the GRUB shows both ubuntu ,windows and memory test options
[02:39] <lotuspsychje> projectmanga: what happens if you plugin your device with usb cable?
[02:39] <projectmanga> the pda is seen as an ethernet network
[02:40] <lotuspsychje> projectmanga: you see an icon in your dash?
[02:40] <jennie> wilee-nilee, how to find GRUB boot loader drive, I got 3 hdd installed in PC
[02:40] <wilee-nilee> jennie, YOU can reload the windows bootloader if you want to use it till you ahve another OS chosen, or install the other and grub will be reinstalled, you don;t save the dualboot per-say.
[02:41] <projectmanga> no im fairly familiar wiht unity
[02:41] <wilee-nilee> jennie, To do what?
[02:41] <lotuspsychje> projectmanga: when you plugin your pda, can you see a new icon showing in the left bar with icons?
[02:42] <jennie> ok wilee-nilee I will try reinstalling at current linux partition
[02:42] <wilee-nilee> jennie, Yeah just do a manual install and set the partition to be formatted.
[02:42] <lotuspsychje> projectmanga: you should be able to browse your pda, same way as an usb device pop up
[02:42] <projectmanga> i understand the unity bar i do not see a storage device icon
[02:42] <pvl1> wilee-nilee: may i PM you real quick
[02:42] <wilee-nilee> pvl1, I have the pm off
[02:43] <lotuspsychje> projectmanga: your pda is on or off when plugged in?
[02:43] <pvl1> blah
[02:43] <projectmanga> on by the way ive been using linux since i was 8
[02:43] <projectmanga> on
[02:43] <lotuspsychje> !ask | pvl1
[02:43] <pvl1> im having an ext4-fs error
[02:43] <pvl1> and i think the sys remounts RO
[02:43] <pvl1> i cant even log in on a tty
[02:43] <lotuspsychje> projectmanga: try put pda off and plugin
[02:44] <projectmanga> it has a sync setting on the pda it cant connect while off
[02:45] <lotuspsychje> projectmanga: your purpose is sync the device or just file browsing?
[02:45] <qin> projectmanga: does dmesg tell something usefull?
[02:45] <pvl1> i suspect RO because it wont write to log. i took a picture of the error: find entry:1206 inode #33 comm console-kit-dae: reading directory iblock 0
[02:45] <projectmanga> i need to file browse there is no driver for the pda
[02:46] <lotuspsychje> projectmanga: for samsung tablet i also need the device: off to browse it on 13.04
[02:47] <lotuspsychje> projectmanga: not sure for your device, but isnt there a way to put it off?
[02:47] <clue_h> projectmanga, does the device have settings for pc connections as well, it could have a file transfer mode etc
[02:47] <pvl1> projectmanga: what pda
[02:48] <projectmanga> zaurus sl-5500
[02:48] <lotuspsychje> clue_h: good point mate!
[02:48] <phong_> hey guys
[02:49] <phong_> ubuntu good?
[02:49] <lotuspsychje> phong_: welcome, what can we do for you
[02:49] <phong_> is ubuntu 13 good?
[02:49] <lotuspsychje> phong_: 13.04?
[02:50] <lotuspsychje> !13.04 | phong_
[02:50] <projectmanga> im having problems with 13.04 in booting but thats just me
[02:50] <projectmanga> nobodyworry about the booting rpoblem
[02:51] <lotuspsychje> phong_: for me its very stable and usefull, but check the support time for it...if you need longer support choose 12.04
[02:51] <lotuspsychje> projectmanga: what problem are you talking about?
[02:53] <projectmanga> ltoysosyshje the booting problem?
[02:53] <DrkShadow> Bash won't auto-complete filenames. So I got rid of bash-completion. Bash still won't auto-complete filenames. How do I fix it?
[02:53] <lotuspsychje> projectmanga: there are thousands of booting problems...wich one affects you?
[02:54] <projectmanga> i can boot but when i boot i get a blank screen i have to put it into sleep mode then back out again
[02:55] <wilee-nilee> DrkShadow, You might post the command if short or pastebin it if longer.
[02:55] <DrkShadow> wilee-nilee: vim cron/<tab><tab> shows nothing. There's one file in there, index.html.
[02:55] <DrkShadow> err index.php
[02:55] <wilee-nilee> not to me though
[02:55] <lotuspsychje> projectmanga: did you install graphics driver correctly?
[02:57] <projectmanga> yea no problem just dont worry about ive had this problem wiht anything based on 13.04
[02:57] <projectmanga> im still working with my pda
[02:57] <Foxhoundz> Oh ubuntu
[02:58] <Foxhoundz> I would love you so if every update didn't render you useless
[02:58] <clue_h> DrkShadow, did you look in /etc/bash.bashrc and are the lines under '# enable bash completion in interactive shells' commented out ?
[02:58] <lotuspsychje> DrkShadow: http://askubuntu.com/questions/142994/bash-completion-doesnt-work-in-root-user
[02:58] <wilee-nilee> Foxhoundz, IT doesn't you have messed up something
[02:58] <Foxhoundz> wilee-nilee: I made a fresh install and simply followed the prompts to update packages
[02:58] <Foxhoundz> That was it
[02:59] <Foxhoundz> I couldn't reboot into Unity again
[02:59] <lotuspsychje> projectmanga: you could try a failsafeX from grub at boot, recoverymode
[02:59] <lotuspsychje> Foxhoundz: ubuntu version?
[02:59] <wilee-nilee> Foxhoundz, That does not qualify you to malign the OS on the IRC however.
[02:59] <Foxhoundz> 13.04
[03:00] <Foxhoundz> I think it has something to do with Unity
[03:00] <lotuspsychje> Foxhoundz: also try a failsafeX from grub
[03:00] <Foxhoundz> and my graphics car
[03:00] <Foxhoundz> card*
[03:00] <Foxhoundz> Alright
[03:00] <Foxhoundz> brb ( on VPS)
[03:03] <DrkShadow> There is no /etc/bash.bashrc.
[03:04] <lotuspsychje> im looking to remove useradd icon is that possible to just use the terminal way adding users?
[03:04] <DrkShadow> oh sorry, it didn't show me the filename when I tried completion
[03:04] <DrkShadow> It seems to be only screwing up with vim
[03:05] <projectmanga> im only running ubuntu 13.04 i dont have grub again dont worry about
[03:06] <DrkShadow> t's only vim that doesn't work. It will complete directories, but it won't show any flies. bash-completion installed or not, it doesn't matter.
[03:07] <lotuspsychje> DrkShadow: so you want autocompletion for vim actually?
[03:07] <DrkShadow> lotuspsychje: I'd rather not have _any_ special completion, but I _really_want_ files to show up when I tab-tab.
[03:08] <DrkShadow> (i.e. on every other distro I've ever used, things in the filesystem always show up, and commands always show up. But there is nothing special on a per-command basis, as Ubuntu seems to do.)
[03:08] <lotuspsychje> DrkShadow: ls?
[03:08] <DrkShadow> ls shows files if I tab-tab. vim doesn't.
[03:09] <pepper_chico> just trying out this new kid on the block called elementary OS
[03:09] <clue_h> I've never noticed
[03:10] <lotuspsychje> pepper_chico: this is a, ubuntu support channel mate
[03:10] <pepper_chico> lotuspsychje, not asking for support, just thinking loud
[03:11] <lotuspsychje> pepper_chico: thin out loud in #ubuntu-offtopic please
[03:11] <lotuspsychje> DrkShadow: maybe this snippet? http://superuser.com/questions/343443/are-there-any-autocompletion-plugins-for-vim
[03:11] <lotuspsychje> DrkShadow: not sure if vim-gtk has autocompletion, but worth a try
[03:12] <lotuspsychje> !info vim-gtk | DrkShadow
[03:12] <DrkShadow> hmm.
[03:12] <pepper_chico> well, actually, I've been asking for support but got no response for a long time: http://askubuntu.com/questions/335489/is-there-a-way-to-define-a-hotkey-to-solely-unhide-the-launcher
[03:12] <pepper_chico> still, no response
[03:13] <lotuspsychje> pepper_chico: did you try tuning ccsm?
[03:14] <pepper_chico> lotuspsychje, I didn't, preferred to wait someone else response, really, anytime I open ccsm I get afraid of messing up everything
[03:15] <lotuspsychje> !info compizconfig-settings-manager | pepper_chico
[03:15] <pepper_chico> I know it
[03:16] <clue_h> pepper_chico, i was thinking maybe a python script invoked with a shortcut that contacts unity-2d over bus, using pythons unity library
[03:16] <pepper_chico> I dunno whether there's such option there, and, didn't try to much looking it up by myself because as I said, I'm afraid of ccsm
[03:17] <pepper_chico> clue_h, sounds cool, but a lot of work
[03:17] <lotuspsychje> pepper_chico: dont be affraid of an ubuntu package :p
[03:18] <pepper_chico> sorry, past experiences with ccsm made me that way
[03:19] <Liam-> when installing Ubuntu 10.10 32x, Ubuntu 13.04 32x, lubuntu (newest version, not sure what one), 32x, each one tells him that it needs pae for it to be installed
[03:19] <Liam-> when i googled this, a few posts stated that lubuntu 32x would work around that issue
[03:19] <Liam-> what else could be an issue/solution?
[03:19] <lotuspsychje> !pae | Liam-
[03:20] <HeyM-Cld> Oh crap
[03:20] <jennie> how cna I do force upgrade with force atitude ?
[03:20] <lotuspsychje> !language | HeyM-Cld
[03:20] <HeyM-Cld> Sorry
[03:20] <holstein> Liam-: http://www.webupd8.org/2012/05/how-to-install-ubuntu-1204-on-non-pae.html
[03:20] <HeyM-Cld> And lotus, liam was talking for me and my computer has only 768mb of ram
[03:21] <holstein> HeyM-Cld: http://www.webupd8.org/2012/05/how-to-install-ubuntu-1204-on-non-pae.html
[03:21] <Liam-> ah.
[03:22] <jennie> how cna I do force upgrade with force atitude ?
[03:22] <HeyM-Cld> I'll burn yet another disk and try this
[03:22] <lotuspsychje> pepper_chico: maybe re-ask wich hotkey you want exactly in channel so others can help
[03:22] <HeyM-Cld> I've already burned 6 in the process
[03:22] <holstein> HeyM-Cld: you have hardware that is not pae..
[03:23] <xmetal> hmm
[03:23] <wilee-nilee> jennie, atitude?
[03:23] <clue_h> pepper_chico, whats the output of 'gsettings get com.canonical.Unity2d.Launcher super-key-enable' from terminal?
[03:23] <holstein> HeyM-Cld: no matter how many iso's or disks you have made, or plan to make, you will need to make arrangments to support your unsupported hardware
[03:23]  * xmetal agrees with holstein
[03:23] <HeyM-Cld> holstein: Oh, so the link you gave should work?
[03:23] <xmetal> aptitude, jennie means i take it
[03:24] <xmetal> (or did i screw it up too? lol)
[03:24] <pepper_chico> clue_h, no schema for it
[03:24] <pepper_chico> there's no com.canonical.Unity2d.Launcher schema
[03:24] <holstein> HeyM-Cld: you have non-pae hardware, and pae only isos.. so, when you read the link i gave, and follow whatever instructions you choose to have the correct kernel for you hardware.. yes it will work
[03:25] <wilee-nilee> HeyM-Cld, The net install will do a non pae install
[03:25] <HeyM-Cld> holstein: The link is for what version of ubuntu? the mini.iso
[03:25] <holstein> !mini | HeyM-Cld
[03:25] <pepper_chico> lotuspsychje, I'm looking for any hotkey, given the constraints, that's the reason I left it open
[03:25] <holstein> HeyM-Cld: also, wilee-nilee has just suggested the net install..
[03:26] <lotuspsychje> holstein: you know if i can remove the useradd icon, to prevent other users poking into userlist?
[03:26] <projectmanga> i got a kernal  panic who was pming
[03:26] <HeyM-Cld> Ok
[03:26] <holstein> HeyM-Cld: the "version" is whatever version you want.. i would do 12.04, since that guide states that it works.. and non-pae is not going to get more supported
[03:26] <pepper_chico> lotuspsychje, any key, or combination of keys, that could do that simple unhide, just that
[03:26] <pepper_chico> without the obligatory Dash
[03:27] <holstein> lotuspsychje: not sure.. you mean in the useradd gui?
[03:27] <holstein> lotuspsychje: i know, lots of "lockdown" features are missing, in my opinion
[03:27] <lotuspsychje> holstein: yes, you think removing it in /usr/share/aplications would be safe?
[03:28] <holstein> lotuspsychje: hmm. i would probably do that in virtualiztion first
[03:29] <lotuspsychje> holstein: i already use the lightdm trick to hide users at boot login screen
[03:29] <lotuspsychje> holstein: now im looking for the useradd gui and lock down /home/otherusers
[03:29] <holstein> lotuspsychje: what DE? unity?
[03:29] <lotuspsychje> holstein: 13.04 64 bit
[03:29] <holstein> lotuspsychje: unity?
[03:30] <lotuspsychje> holstein: unity yes
[03:30] <xmetal> ]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]
[03:30] <clue_h> pepper_chico, this http://askubuntu.com/questions/274153/command-line-for-hiding-and-unhiding-unity-panel maybe useful, and a messy way of switching would to keybind to each command in  a bash script [eg ctrl h, ctr u]
[03:31] <lotuspsychje> xmetal:?
[03:31] <clue_h> that's as far as i go lol
[03:31] <xmetal> oops ... put something on my KB and wasn't paying attention
[03:31] <xmetal> lol sorry
[03:31] <lotuspsychje> clue_h: nice find!
[03:31] <pepper_chico> clue_h =D, thanks anyway
[03:31] <pepper_chico> will take a look
[03:31] <clue_h> :)
[03:35] <ntzrmtthihu777> Heyo, using compiz with gnome-panel, can't quite figure out how to switch the window buttons to the left.
[03:36] <holstein> ntzrmtthihu777: gconf is where that used to be.. i havent moved them in quite a few versions
[03:37] <wilee-nilee> ntzrmtthihu777, When I used unity I used ubuntu-tweak to do that.
[03:37] <wilee-nilee> dconf after 12.04
[03:38] <wilee-nilee> ntzrmtthihu777, What release you running?
[03:38] <ntzrmtthihu777> wilee-nilee: not using unity, lol. 13.04, coulda sworn I posted that :/
[03:38] <wilee-nilee> ntzrmtthihu777, Ah to the left, lol I missed that dconf-editor
[03:38] <holstein> ntzrmtthihu777: you *still* havent posted what you are using.. are you using gnome? or just a gnome-panel with some other de?
[03:38] <HeyM-Cld> Ok I burned the mini.iso to the disk, but it stops when it gets to the get packages menu
[03:39] <HeyM-Cld> Any solutions?
[03:39] <holstein> HeyM-Cld: what stops what?
[03:39] <wilee-nilee> HeyM-Cld, You plugged into the net?
[03:39] <holstein> !md5 | HeyM-Cld
[03:39] <HeyM-Cld> wilee-nilee: yes
[03:39] <lotuspsychje> holstein: ah seems like useradd can add a user without a /home (normally adduser)
[03:40] <projectmanga> http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/Networking/Zaurus_USB_network_how_to i tried this nothing worked in terminal
[03:40] <HeyM-Cld> It stops 2 steps after this: http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-ZyttcHnUwhc/T6FHIbkfOJI/AAAAAAAAI0o/v2hW9o6-Lyc/s1600/ubuntu12.04-mini_2.png
[03:41] <lotuspsychje> projectmanga: you have a microsd on that device?
[03:41] <holstein> HeyM-Cld: on what step? are you getting errors? did you confirm the md5 sum?
[03:41] <projectmanga> sd
[03:41] <projectmanga> just sd
[03:42] <pepper_chico> clue_h, cool, I may write the keybind script, but still, that's not unhiding, it's changing the hiding mode, and, because of that, the desktop icons get shifted because the Launcher takes space
[03:42] <ntzrmtthihu777> holstein: yes, I did. my last message said 13.04
[03:42] <projectmanga> and it does not recognize the sd card
[03:42] <projectmanga> on it
[03:42] <holstein> ntzrmtthihu777: ok.. 13.04 using gnome? what de are you using, friend? if not unity?
[03:42] <projectmanga> im trying to update it wiht an image
[03:42] <ntzrmtthihu777> holstein: and the message before that told the DE, gnome-panel, with compiz
[03:42] <holstein> ntzrmtthihu777: gnome-panel is a panel
[03:42] <hanasaki> does the current distribution support intel on cpu video directly or are driver downloads needed?
[03:43] <holstein> ntzrmtthihu777: are you using gnome? or just the gnome panel with some other DE?
[03:43] <pepper_chico> also it doesn't unhide, it just pops up without any animation
[03:43] <clue_h> pepper_chico, ah i suspected as much, that's why i thought of sending a dbus message in python directly with unity lib
[03:43] <ntzrmtthihu777> holstein: gnome-session-fallback, aka gnome-panel :/
[03:43] <jennie> wilee-nilee, aptitude I mean
[03:44] <xmetal> lol
[03:44] <hanasaki> ntzrmtthihu777:  lol kde :)
[03:44] <ntzrmtthihu777> hanasaki: ?
[03:44] <HeyM-Cld> The cmd for the md5 isn't working either...
[03:45] <holstein> ntzrmtthihu777: so, you are using gnome then.. just to clarify, since either you or some naming system of gnome is *quite* confusing.. correct? just gnome?
[03:46] <ntzrmtthihu777> holstein: not the gnome of the ubuntu-gnome iso. more like the older gnome2.
[03:46] <ntzrmtthihu777> holstein: in any case I think its irrelevant, its more about the compiz setting. I can't find it in ccsm, and ubuntu-tweak depends on unity which I don't want to install XD
[03:46] <n43361> usr?
[03:47] <n43361> i need if assistance
[03:47] <n43361> of*
[03:47] <lotuspsychje> projectmanga: can you do a tail -f /var/log/syslog.1 in terminal and then connect your device with usb (to see what happens)
[03:47] <n43361> my internet wont work on ubuntu 13.04
[03:47] <lotuspsychje> !details | n43361
[03:47] <n43361> -_- fine
[03:48] <holstein> ntzrmtthihu777: gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.wm.preferences button-layout ':minimize,maximize,close' .. this is what i would try..
[03:48] <ntzrmtthihu777> n43361: what kind of internet hardware do you have?
[03:48] <HeyM-Cld> holstein: The disk doesn't contain a .md5 file
[03:48] <n43361> Intel pro 100
[03:48] <pepper_chico> by the way, just finishing installation of this elementary OS thing (VM install)
[03:48] <n43361> someone priv chat me?
[03:49] <holstein> !md5 | HeyM-Cld
[03:49] <n43361> o-o?
[03:49] <xmetal> :) @ my $18.22 100pk of DVDs will be here tomorrow ... burning some ISO's (only had a few discs left) of Linux now
[03:49] <Hexagonite> Anyone know an alternative to Caffeine? It doesn't work on 13.04.
[03:49] <holstein> HeyM-Cld: you will get the md5 sum from where you downloaded the iso. then, you will get the sum of the file you have on your hard drive
[03:49] <HeyM-Cld> I did, the disk doesn't contain a .md5 file
[03:49] <lotuspsychje> n43361: wifi card or ethernet card?
[03:49] <n43361> Ethernet
[03:49] <n43361> Wait
[03:49] <holstein> HeyM-Cld: no one said it did.. you can get it from the site where you downloaded the iso
[03:50] <n43361> How do you check your network card?
[03:50] <HeyM-Cld> The site doesn't have it?
[03:50] <holstein> !info | caffeine
[03:50] <HeyM-Cld> You showed me the site
[03:50] <neo_1364> hi there, could anyone tell me how to disable file url scheme please ?
[03:50] <ntzrmtthihu777> holstein: no dice.
[03:50] <xmetal> !info | kaffenie
[03:50] <xmetal> oops @ my silly fingers
[03:50] <n43361> How do you check your network card?
[03:50] <n43361> How do you check your network card?
[03:51] <holstein> !patience | n43361
[03:51] <lotuspsychje> Hexagonite: http://linuxg.net/install-caffeine-from-sources-on-ubuntu-13-04-raring-ringtail/
[03:51] <Hexagonite> holstein: Caffeine is an applet, not a distro
[03:51] <holstein> n43361: we are all volunteers.. please dont repeat
[03:51] <n43361> alright
[03:51] <n43361> it was a mistake
[03:51] <xmetal> eh?
[03:51] <holstein> Hexagonite: i never said it was... im just trying to determina waht you are looking for
[03:51] <n43361> anyways
[03:51] <Hexagonite> holstein: oh, sorry.
[03:52] <xmetal> i thought you meant Kaffenine (sp?) the media player
[03:52] <n43361> Im sure that Intel pro 100 is an ethernet
[03:52] <Hexagonite> lotuspsychje: It doesn't work currently, I got it installed
[03:52] <projectmanga> did someone say something to me i cant scroll up for some reason
[03:52] <c_smith> xmetal, Caffeine is an applet to inhibit locking and screensavers, useful for watching movies, for example.
[03:52] <lotuspsychje> projectmanga: can you do a tail -f /var/log/syslog.1 in terminal and then connect your device with usb (to see what happens)
[03:53] <ntzrmtthihu777> hanasaki: ah, gotcha. In any case would you care to explain how you sent that message in my status channel?
[03:53] <n43361> -_- ill go find help somewhere else
[03:53] <holstein> n43361: enjoy!
[03:53] <lotuspsychje> :p
[03:54] <holstein> n43361: maybe a networking channel
[03:54] <n43361> hmm?
[03:54] <HeyM-Cld> holstein: Is my computer really not support pae? It says pae was introduced in 1995 and my computer was made in 2000
[03:54] <lotuspsychje> n43361: you already been told to have patience
[03:54] <holstein> n43361: i saying, enjoy your self, and suggesting a networking channel. or maybe general linux
[03:54] <projectmanga>  -f/var/log/syslog.1
[03:54] <projectmanga> bash: -f/var/log/syslog.1: No such file or directory
[03:54] <ntzrmtthihu777> projectmanga: forgot the tail\
[03:55] <holstein> HeyM-Cld: you said your computer didnt.. or your friend did.. with the error messages.. and i have seen that error before in such cased
[03:55] <holstein> cases*
[03:55] <lotuspsychje> projectmanga: also use pasteubuntu for your output
[03:55] <HeyM-Cld> Well sometimes it cannot see the pae
[03:55] <holstein> HeyM-Cld: it? the iso? the install? that has never been the case for me
[03:56] <HeyM-Cld> it=installer
[03:56] <holstein> HeyM-Cld: that has not been my personal experience.. but, when i cared about this, 10.04 was still suported for the desktop, so i just used it
[03:56] <projectmanga> i did the tail what should happen
[03:57] <HeyM-Cld> Oh
[03:57] <lotuspsychje> projectmanga: now branch your device out/in with usb cable, see what happens
[03:57] <ntzrmtthihu777> holstein: ah, nevermind, you gave the correct command to set the to the right, lol. I had to fix the order proper, but thank you anyways :D
[03:57] <HeyM-Cld> Well do you have a possible solution to the mini.iso stopping when it does to install packages?
[03:57] <projectmanga> nothing
[03:58] <HeyM-Cld> Without checking the md5
[03:58] <holstein> ntzrmtthihu777: i just gave a command for you to use.. i figured you'd set the order
[03:58] <lotuspsychje> projectmanga: ok check your syslog.1 log maybe errors in there with your device?
[03:58] <holstein> HeyM-Cld: checking the md5 summ is an easy first step that i would do.. first.. before other steps
[03:59] <HeyM-Cld> But I have no say of getting the file to check
[03:59] <hanasaki> been searching but do not see any comparison between these NICs or if ubuntu supports them directly... 82563 vs Intel I217-V
[03:59] <holstein> HeyM-Cld: md5sum /path/to/iso .. check against the md5 at the site where you downloaded the iso
[04:00] <HeyM-Cld> It's not on the site nor the iso
[04:00] <holstein> HeyM-Cld: you generate the local md5.. as i said
[04:00] <holstein> HeyM-Cld: with teh md5sum command.. windows utilities are mentioned at the link i gave you..
[04:00] <HeyM-Cld> You never said but ok
[04:00] <lotuspsychje> !hardware | hanasaki
[04:00] <holstein> HeyM-Cld: i gave it to you twice, and im referring to the sentence above
[04:01] <HeyM-Cld> The cmd needs the .md5 file
[04:01] <ntzrmtthihu777> holstein: yeah, shoulda noticed that. I've done this before, but its been a while.
[04:01] <holstein> HeyM-Cld: lets keep this constructive.. open a terminal.. run md5sum /path/to/file
[04:02] <holstein> HeyM-Cld: this will *generate* an md5sum on the downloaded version of the file.. you check that against the "known good" one that you will get from the site where you downloaded the iso
[04:02] <holstein> ntzrmtthihu777: i think it was once in 12.04 i moved them.. last
[04:03] <hanasaki> lotuspsychje:  great page.. looks like a marketing company.. no readily accessible list or search function
[04:03] <hanasaki> but its pretty
[04:03] <svetter> anyone here from canonical? I got a DNS issue to report. extras.ubuntu.com resolves to fe80::a2b3:ccff:fee0:d988 which is probably not the right address
[04:04] <lotuspsychje> hanasaki: the way i see it, there's always a trick to make hardware work, on some version of ubuntu...
[04:04] <R0bin> hello fellow ubuntu enthusiast. i recently ran ubuntnu on a virtual machine with a gnome and everything. quite liked it
[04:04] <svetter> makes it impossible to connect from ipv6-only hosts
[04:04] <lotuspsychje> !yay | R0bin
[04:05] <hanasaki> lotuspsychje:  more about the kernel and drivers than "tricks"  just looking to see if its "just there" or what work is needed before buying
[04:05] <projectmanga> not a serious  question but does anyone else 'like" unity
[04:05] <HeyM-Cld> holstein: This is what I got: http://pastie.org/8261669
[04:06] <holstein> projectmanga: try the #ubuntu-offtopic for chat about opinions, please :)
[04:06] <lotuspsychje> projectmanga: use #ubuntu-offtopic for that mate
[04:07] <lotuspsychje> hanasaki: might be handy indeed to know before you buy
[04:07] <holstein> HeyM-Cld: when i go to the link i gave you for the download of that iso, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD ,i see the known good md5 sums i was mentioned, and that were referenced in the links i gave. let me look and tell you if they are matching
[04:07] <projectmanga> okay
[04:07] <Foxhoundz> ok
[04:08] <lotuspsychje> !notunity | projectmanga
[04:08] <HeyM-Cld> holstein: You have me this link: http://www.webupd8.org/2012/05/how-to-install-ubuntu-1204-on-non-pae.html
[04:08] <Foxhoundz> I'm in Ubuntu (via SSH on a VPS)
[04:08] <Foxhoundz> and Gnome is still not letting me login
[04:08] <Foxhoundz> I'm using Ubuntu's Gnome 3 Remix
[04:08] <holstein> HeyM-Cld: *and* a link to the minimal iso you downloade of which the quality we are determining
[04:08] <Foxhoundz> Not Unity
[04:08] <holstein> HeyM-Cld: the sum is not listed there, so you either downloade the incorrect image, or you have a bad download
[04:09] <Hypnotix> Morning
[04:09] <HeyM-Cld> holstein: I don't understand why we are doing the md5 think
[04:09] <HeyM-Cld> thing*
[04:09] <holstein> HeyM-Cld: because we have determined that it is a bad downloa
[04:09] <ntzrmtthihu777> holstein: ah, see that? gnome-panel :P
[04:09] <holstein> download*
[04:09] <HeyM-Cld> holstein: Then why did you link it to me?
[04:09] <Hypnotix> I have a big problem with Ubuntu,  it won't boot
[04:10] <holstein> HeyM-Cld: please relax
[04:10] <lotuspsychje> !details | Hypnotix
[04:10] <HeyM-Cld> holstein: I am relaxed
[04:10] <wilee-nilee> Hypnotix, Can you give some details?
[04:10] <ntzrmtthihu777> HeyM-Cld: md5sum = digital fingerprint, if the fingerprint you generate doesn't match the one on file its a corrupt download.
[04:10] <holstein> HeyM-Cld: you need to download this iso Ubuntu 12.04 "Precise Pangolin" Minimal CD 27MB* (MD5: e4d16caf537be112f3dc9ba94e158cf7
[04:10] <Hypnotix> I'm at a screen now where I see (initramfs)  command prompt
[04:10] <holstein> HeyM-Cld: you get it from here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[04:11] <wilee-nilee> Hypnotix, This is an install?
[04:11] <holstein> HeyM-Cld: you can use the md5sum command after downloading to make sure the downloaded image is the same as the above listed one that you are attempting to download
[04:11] <Hypnotix> I'm typing from my phone right now
[04:11] <Hypnotix> No it worked fine last jig t
[04:11] <HeyM-Cld> Matches
[04:11] <holstein> HeyM-Cld: *then* you use the other reference.. http://www.webupd8.org/2012/05/how-to-install-ubuntu-1204-on-non-pae.html
[04:11] <Hypnotix> Night
[04:11] <lotuspsychje> Hypnotix: try a failsafeX from grub recovery
[04:12] <HeyM-Cld> now I have to burn yet another disk ugg
[04:12] <holstein> HeyM-Cld: no.. you need to redownload the proper iso.. the one mentioned above
[04:12] <Hypnotix> How do I get a grub recovery
[04:12] <lotuspsychje> Hypnotix: hold shift at boot, enter grub and choose recoverymode/failsafeX
[04:13] <holstein> HeyM-Cld: please do not complain here about burning discs with images that are not appropriate for your hardware, or isos that your internet have downloaded improperly.. take that to #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:13] <HeyM-Cld> You told me to download it...
[04:13] <R0bin> quick question. OS xmountain lion has been a very hospitable coding and linux server interacting environment. is ubuntu about the same i mean all GNOMEs seam to be the same just look different. i mean the terminal is ubuntu is spittn image and to my knowledge is teh same bash$
[04:14] <lotuspsychje> HeyM-Cld: we are trying to help you here..
[04:14] <holstein> HeyM-Cld: did you download the iso i listed?
[04:14] <wilee-nilee> Hypnotix, In the grub menu.
[04:14] <HeyM-Cld> holstein: When?
[04:14] <HeyM-Cld> holstein: Now? If so, yes.
[04:14] <holstein> HeyM-Cld: just above.. the iso at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD named Ubuntu 12.04 "Precise Pangolin" Minimal CD 27MB* (MD5: e4d16caf537be112f3dc9ba94e158cf7
[04:14] <HeyM-Cld> Yes I did
[04:14] <holstein> HeyM-Cld: see that the image matches..
[04:15] <HeyM-Cld> I did, it does
[04:15] <Hypnotix> Last night Ubuntu  asked me to install a partial update with  some Microsoft  language thing
[04:15] <holstein> HeyM-Cld: then, you can proceed as i stated, to the guide Ubuntu 12.04 "Precise Pangolin" Minimal CD 27MB* (MD5: e4d16caf537be112f3dc9ba94e158cf7
[04:15] <holstein> HeyM-Cld: the guide http://www.webupd8.org/2012/05/how-to-install-ubuntu-1204-on-non-pae.html *
[04:15] <lotuspsychje> Hypnotix: you dualbooting?
[04:15] <holstein> HeyM-Cld: understand?
[04:15] <Hypnotix> Recovery mode failed
[04:15] <HeyM-Cld> Yes
[04:16] <Hypnotix> Yes lotuspshychje
[04:17] <wilee-nilee> Hypnotix, You did a partial upgrade?
[04:17] <lotuspsychje> Hypnotix: can you see previous kernels in grub to try boot?
[04:17] <Hypnotix> Yes wilee
[04:17] <lotuspsychje> !tab | Hypnotix
[04:18] <ntzrmtthihu777> lotuspsychje: what an awesome tool it is, no?
[04:18] <Hypnotix> I can see  3.8.0-27 and - 19
[04:18] <lotuspsychje> ntzrmtthihu777: indeed :p
[04:18] <Hypnotix> lotus I'm on a phone so no tab for me
[04:19] <HeyM-Cld> holstein: It froze when I pressed ENTER on 'Install'
[04:19] <lotuspsychje> Hypnotix: try a previous kernel maybe to enter your system?
[04:19] <Hypnotix> I am trying now
[04:19] <HeyM-Cld> This: http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-B1LNNN2iIXc/T6FG3824aAI/AAAAAAAAI0g/5qCwgtvJwjk/s320/ubuntu1204-mini_1.png
[04:19] <Privacee> is it possible to use a laptop running ubuntu as a wifi extender just like in windows 7?
[04:19] <holstein> HeyM-Cld: i would test the hardware.. you can also have a bad component causing issues
[04:19] <HeyM-Cld> Can you exmplain
[04:20] <HeyM-Cld> Explain
[04:20] <lotuspsychje> Privacee: what you mean by extener
[04:20] <Hypnotix> nope still get lots of errors
[04:20] <wilee-nilee> Privacee, as a hot spot yes
[04:20] <lotuspsychje> Hypnotix: well if recovery and kernel dont boot, something def wrong :p
[04:21] <Privacee> Privacee, is there an app for that?
[04:21] <Privacee> lol
[04:21] <Privacee> i mean wilee-nilee *
[04:21] <lotuspsychje> Hypnotix: maybe its time you single boot ubuntu and loose win once and for good
[04:21] <sam__> hi all, successfully have win8 and ubuntu 13.04 installed on new y510p laptop.  Is there an EASY way to edit the entries for each os (generated after running boot-repair)????
[04:21] <Hypnotix> But my gamesssss  :)
[04:21] <lotuspsychje> Hypnotix: you can game on ubuntu
[04:21] <sam__> Hypnotix....same reason I keep it around
[04:22] <wilee-nilee> Privacee, Never done it but I believe you can have it send the wifi, not sure really.
[04:22] <holstein> HeyM-Cld: sure.. a loose or broken wire somewhere could cause *all* attempts at installing *anything* to not work.. .or installers to freeze.. or bad memory could cause a file downloaded to contain the wrong data
[04:22] <lotuspsychje> Hypnotix: steam, playonlinux, wine..
[04:22] <sam__> its getting better ....gaming on linux.....but still need winblows for some stuff
[04:22] <Ari-Yang> Hyperbyte, there is steam on ubuntu, but not all games are available
[04:22] <HeyM-Cld> holstein: But Windows on it works fine
[04:22] <Privacee> i just want to make sure, do i need 2 wireless adapters or just 1?
[04:23] <holstein> HeyM-Cld: what tests did you run in windows?
[04:23] <HeyM-Cld> I didn't run tests, I'm just saying it works fine
[04:23] <lotuspsychje> Hypnotix: did some went wrong on an update for you?
[04:23] <holstein> HeyM-Cld: then, enjoy it
[04:24] <Hypnotix> so there is no way to recover Ubuntu
[04:24] <HeyM-Cld> I need ubuntu to run a server
[04:24] <holstein> HeyM-Cld: you can likely find out how to confirm in your have pae or not in windows
[04:24] <sam__> Is there an EASY way to edit the entries for each os (generated after running boot-repair)????
[04:24] <lotuspsychje> Hypnotix: you can use livecd to restore aswell and keep your /home files intact
[04:24] <holstein> HeyM-Cld: you dont need ubuntu desktop to run a server.. ubuntu server 10.04 is still supported.. and you can use putty to ssh into an ubuntu server
[04:24] <Hypnotix> I did get an error and u unto asked for a partial update
[04:24] <holstein> HeyM-Cld: you can run virtualbox.. and virtualize ubuntu server...
[04:25] <Ari-Yang> Hypnotix, http://store.steampowered.com/search/?os=linux
[04:25] <wilee-nilee> Privacee, IN the network manager I see use as hot mspot
[04:25] <wilee-nilee> hot spot*
[04:25] <holstein> HeyM-Cld: http://www.turnkeylinux.org/ these are live ubuntu based server appliance isos
[04:25] <HeyM-Cld> The computer can't run vms lol
[04:25] <holstein> !volunteers | HeyM-Cld
[04:26] <holstein> HeyM-Cld: *please* lol in another channel.. ike the #ubuntu-offtopic one i mentioned
[04:26] <HeyM-Cld> I was just saying...
[04:26] <lotuspsychje> Ari-Yang: did you see those alienware ubuntu gaming boxes?
[04:26] <Hypnotix> I booted from my usb stick not
[04:26] <HeyM-Cld> Wow
[04:26] <holstein> HeyM-Cld: you *can* run server VMs. or i wouldnt have mentioned it
[04:26] <Privacee> actually, i just want my phone to have access to the internet since the wifi ranger isn't as good as the laptop, i can probably use internet passthough via USB too right?
[04:26] <Ari-Yang> lotuspsychje, no I have not...
[04:26] <lotuspsychje> Ari-Yang: http://www.alienware.com/ubuntu/
[04:27] <HeyM-Cld> holstein: I didn't come here to argue I came here to find a solution which apperantly cannot be fixed
[04:27] <lotuspsychje> Hypnotix: try recover from your usb then
[04:27] <Hypnotix>  Clicked  continue in the first installation screen and froze
[04:27] <Hypnotix> sigh
[04:27] <lotuspsychje> Hypnotix: you sure your hardware isnt broke?
[04:28] <Privacee> the problem is using internet passthrough isn't as intuitive as in windows
[04:28] <holstein> HeyM-Cld: i assume you i do not intend to argue.. i dont think you have anything broken to fix.. you should confirm if you have pae support or not, and it wont hurt to test the hardware.. since you did have a bad download
[04:28] <holstein> assure*
[04:28] <Hypnotix> All was working fine last night
[04:28] <wilee-nilee> Privacee, In general very little linux is plug and play
[04:28] <HeyM-Cld> holstein: Yeah, but the one I just downloaded didn't work either
[04:29] <sam__> is there a gui program that lets you edit grub2 entries????
[04:29] <lotuspsychje> Hypnotix: i would go for a clean install
[04:29] <wilee-nilee> sam__, To do what?
[04:29] <Hypnotix> Well I am trying to do that
[04:29] <holstein> HeyM-Cld: right.. so what are the common elements? you, the optical drive.. the optical media. the same internet. the same machine
[04:29] <sam__> Is there an EASY way to edit the entries for each os (generated after running boot-repair)????
[04:29] <lotuspsychje> Hypnotix: well if that doesnt work, something def wrong with hardware
[04:30] <wilee-nilee> sam__, Easy is an opinion, what is it you want exactly?
[04:30] <HeyM-Cld> Yes
[04:30] <holstein> HeyM-Cld: what do you need ubuntu for? running an ubuntu server?
[04:30] <holstein> !putty
[04:31] <HeyM-Cld> Running a mc server, I need to have it working, running it on windows is not an option
[04:31] <wilee-nilee> sam__, There are no real gui's for grub basically, you would edit text.
[04:32] <sam__> wilee-nilee i need to get rid of entries that are bogus and I want to change the label of the Windows 8 one so that the word recovery is not in there....it is erroneously
[04:32] <holstein> HeyM-Cld: then, i would check that your CPU is pae or not and let a volunteer here know.. and go from there
[04:32] <lasers> Do Ubuntu have a factoid for virus scanner iso to be tested on Windows machine?
[04:32] <sam__> okay what file do I need to edit (location)
[04:32] <wilee-nilee> sam__, Have you run a update-grub to see if it cleans up?
[04:33] <lotuspsychje> !info clamav | lasers
[04:33] <sam__> I installed ubuntu, then had to run boot-repair....
[04:33] <pepper_chico> by the way, finished installing elementary OS VM, man, this os an OS X copycat
[04:33] <sco_> hello , im having trouble connecting wireless broadband in ubuntu 13.04 . Im not sure how to proceed
[04:33] <sam__> I'm assuming boot repair did all that.
[04:33] <xmetal> there is "grub customizer" (i had to download the deb seperately) though even that doesn't work "perfectly" with grub all the time
[04:33] <pepper_chico> but cool anyway
[04:33] <lasers> lotuspsychje: Ah, not what I was hoping for. Much thanks.
[04:33] <holstein> sam__: i would just use it.. i mean, how often are you trying to show off grub?
[04:33] <sam__> because it did give me a new boot menu.....but there are still some error/erroenous stuff on it
[04:33] <lotuspsychje> pepper_chico: stop using this support chat to troll this
[04:34] <X-User> what is a preferred way to install Ubuntu, with a DVD or USB?
[04:34] <lotuspsychje> lasers: what exactly do you need
[04:34] <sam__> its for my kid
[04:34] <xmetal> either way
[04:34] <wilee-nilee> sam__, Maybe, I would run sudo update-grub and check it, chances are it is just reading what is on the computer.
[04:34] <lasers> X-User: USB if you can. No need to waste a disc.
[04:34] <wwolf> I like using USB as it is typically faster installation.  But both have worked fine for me.
[04:34] <holstein> sam__: i woulld argue a kid doesnt need dual boot
[04:35] <sam__> 18 year old kid
[04:35] <X-User> lasers, Brasero wasted 2 of my Disc already! what a bad piece of software!
[04:35] <Hypnotix> So after booting from usb trying to install it still freezes
[04:35] <holstein> sam__: there are *many* customization options.. and they are all easy to break grub..
[04:35] <sam__> Generating grub.cfg ...
[04:35] <holstein> sam__: if its worth the hassle, go for it
[04:35] <lotuspsychje> Hypnotix: on wich part freeze?
[04:35] <sam__> okay how do I get to see it now?
[04:35] <wwolf> Hypno -- what is the issue your having?
[04:36] <HeyM-Cld> holstein: It supports pae
[04:36] <lotuspsychje> wwolf: his machine freezes after update yesterday
[04:36] <holstein> sam__: you see grub at boot, if you have it set to show
[04:36] <wilee-nilee> sam_ what the terminal says is partially correct but a reboot will show the menu.
[04:36] <X-User> sam__, who is a kid when they are 18? huh? in older days people used to get married on that age?
[04:36] <HeyM-Cld> holstein: Here is proof: http://ark.intel.com/products/27142/Intel-Celeron-M-Processor-350-1M-Cache-1_30-GHz-400-MHz-FSB
[04:36] <Hypnotix> Right before the partition  select screen
[04:36] <holstein> HeyM-Cld: then, your issue is *not* what your friend said earier
[04:36] <wwolf> Thanks lotuspychje
[04:36] <lotuspsychje> wwolf: he tryed recovery from grub, previous kernel and install from usb
[04:36] <lasers> lotuspsychje: Family's friend dropped an old-ish laptop on me. Issues. I looked at it. Meh. Old Windows XP on tiny laptop. Old man. I figure I'd look for iso that linux people often use to do fast clean, fast fix, fast etc. I'm half tempted to dualboot this with ElementaryOS (very friendly *nix OS).
[04:36] <HeyM-Cld> Oh, then what can it be?
[04:37] <holstein> HeyM-Cld: you can confirm the md5 of an appropriate iso
[04:37] <Hypnotix> Yeah and still nothing works so far
[04:37] <sam__> yeah, well the kid is off to University and I'm trying to send him off with decent laptop all fixed up for him.....you know....before I kick him in the ass, throw him out the door, and lock it for good
[04:37] <holstein> HeyM-Cld: i would start with a 32bit lubuntu live iso.. and make certain the md5 sum checks out
[04:37] <holstein> !language | sam__
[04:37] <sam__> I'm a softie
[04:37] <lotuspsychje> lasers: clean install lubuntu on it?
[04:37] <X-User> lasers, Elementary dudes are doing a great job!
[04:37] <sam__> sorry, meant to say arse
[04:38] <holstein> this is not the elementaryOS channel
[04:38]  * lotuspsychje agrees
[04:38] <xmetal> i'd try Lubuntu or (a new one i just found this week .,.. i think it was lotus that got me curious about it) Enlightenmint on older hardware
[04:38] <xmetal> :) i like both
[04:38] <X-User> holstein, -_- i can see that.
[04:38] <xmetal> even on faster hardweare too
[04:38] <lotuspsychje> xmetal: E17 is nice isnt it :p
[04:38] <sam__> i thought there was a gui program that let you easily move the entries around in grub
[04:38] <lasers> lotuspsychje: I would need to communicate with him first (11:31pm here). He left me XP Recovery Disc too in case I can't fix his issues. (I suspect Virus). He said things blowed up when he opened an email. (I'll do LiveUSB).
[04:38] <xmetal> i like it
[04:38] <X-User> sam__, nope, this is just 2013!
[04:39] <holstein> !ot | X-User
[04:39] <X-User> holstein, ok, thanks for telling me that anyway.
[04:39] <Hypnotix> gparted just scanes all devices and doesn't show anything
[04:40] <lotuspsychje> Hypnotix: not even your first hd?
[04:40] <hhee> hi guys. i've laptop celero 1,6 Ghz, 2 core. is it enough to run last ubuntu without brakes?
[04:41] <X-User> hhee, give it a shot.
[04:41] <holstein> hhee: try it live... should be fine
[04:41] <HeyM-Cld> holstein: It doesn't match up, my lubuntu one.
[04:41] <lotuspsychje> hhee: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements
[04:41] <Hypnotix> How do I erase everything from the hdd
[04:41] <hhee> desktop environment i meen
[04:41] <wilee-nilee> hhee, with a gig of ram should be okay.
[04:41] <hhee> X-User holstein tnx guys
[04:41] <holstein> HeyM-Cld: i would say, that has been the issue all along.. burning bad iso's.. you are downloade bad images.. your internet must be "bad"
[04:41] <hhee> wilee-nilee ok, i have 4 gb ram
[04:42] <HeyM-Cld> My internet?
[04:42]  * lotuspsychje hopes hypnotix didnt zero his drive lol
[04:42] <wilee-nilee> hhee, You can try various desktops, depends on how you want to use it.
[04:42] <X-User> wilee-nilee, your name is kinda reminds me of Ubuntu Studio!
[04:42] <HeyM-Cld> He can say 'lol'?
[04:42] <holstein> HeyM-Cld: you downloaded lubuntu over your internet.. and the iso is bad.. and the other isos
[04:42] <xmetal> i agree
[04:42] <HeyM-Cld> How is that fair
[04:43] <lotuspsychje> Hypnotix: wb mate
[04:43] <Hypnotix> Thanx
[04:43] <xmetal> i use a number of DE's honestly
[04:43] <HeyM-Cld> holstein: How does that make my internet bad
[04:43] <xmetal> "whatever i feel like" at a particular time
[04:43] <HeyM-Cld> holstein: And how do I fix it
[04:43] <hhee> wilee-nilee i know there're lots of lightweight desktop env such as openbox, lxde, but i want try official ubuntu unity
[04:43] <Hypnotix> so tell me how to test my hdd pls
[04:43] <lotuspsychje> Hypnotix: try the ##hardware channel mate
[04:43] <holstein> HeyM-Cld: because you used it to get the iso.. and the sum is not matching.. so somewhere between your computer and the hosted iso is the issue
[04:44] <X-User> well Unity works great in high end and mid-range pc.
[04:44] <Etilas> good morning everybody
[04:44] <Hypnotix> Isn't there a Linux terminal command or app
[04:44] <lotuspsychje> Hypnotix: you got a spare drive you can test ubuntu on?
[04:44] <wilee-nilee> hhee, boot a livd usb and try it.
[04:44] <hhee> X-User : ok
[04:44] <wilee-nilee> live*
[04:44] <X-User> Etilas, morning
[04:44] <sco_> could anyone help me with enabling mobile broadband on ubuntu 13.04 ?
[04:44] <lotuspsychje> !info testdisk | Hypnotix
[04:44] <hhee> i understood, need try to find out! :)
[04:44] <lotuspsychje> !ask | sco_
[04:45] <X-User> sco_, what do u mean by mobile broadband? 3g or LTE?
[04:45] <holstein> HeyM-Cld: make certan the sums match before trusting the iso and burning it
[04:45] <holstein> certain*
[04:45] <sco_> it is a 3g usb stick with mobile broadband , there is no option shown in my network manager applet
[04:46] <HeyM-Cld> So the sums have to match up or else the iso is corrupted?
[04:46] <Etilas> sco_, is it shown in "lspci" ?
[04:46] <X-User> ubottu, !iso  > HeyM-Cld
[04:46] <holstein> HeyM-Cld: right.. you can see that in the link i linked you
[04:46] <sco_> http://freetexthost.com/cbq5pdbl2y
[04:46] <holstein> !md5 | HeyM-Cld
[04:47] <HeyM-Cld> That makes no sense
[04:47] <holstein> HeyM-Cld: what is unclear?
[04:47] <holstein> HeyM-Cld: you do not have lubuntu downloaded.. its a corrupt file
[04:47] <holstein> HeyM-Cld: when you try and use or install from the discs, they dont work, since they are corrupt
[04:47] <HeyM-Cld> Not that it's unclear, just it's stupid that my "bad internet" can corrupt a file
[04:47] <wilee-nilee> sco_, Here are some threads to look at. http://askubuntu.com/search?q=+mobile+broadband+13.04
[04:48] <hhee> well guys, is there good documentation for beginner system administrator? i need info about build packages, for example, or wake up usual services, mail ftp what else...
[04:48] <holstein> HeyM-Cld: i used to have dsl, and that was the case.. this was years ago though
[04:48] <sco_> ok , thankyou
[04:48] <sam__> how to hide recovery partitions etc from nautilus/showing up in unity panel
[04:48] <HeyM-Cld> I'm not using dsl tho
[04:48] <lotuspsychje> hhee: server or desktop?
[04:48] <holstein> hhee: if you literally havent installed the os yet, i would start there, and take it slow
[04:48] <hhee> lotuspsychje : server (for beginner sysadmin)
[04:49] <lotuspsychje> !server | hhee
[04:49] <holstein> HeyM-Cld: i didnt mean to imply you were.. im saying *i* was.. back then.. and had bad downloads.. it will between you are your isp to determine the issue you are having..
[04:49] <lotuspsychje> hhee: take a look at !security aswell
[04:49] <holstein> HeyM-Cld: could be a bad mirror as well..
[04:49] <hhee> holstein : ok, (i just already have some expiriment with other linux distro)
[04:49] <HeyM-Cld> http://phillw.net/isos/lubuntu/precise/
[04:50] <sco_> the top question in that askubuntu link was me , and it hasnt helped unfortunately
[04:50] <HeyM-Cld> holstein: Is there anyway I can download it without that happening
[04:50] <holstein> HeyM-Cld: i just implied you should try another mirror.. .let me get the *exact* information for you
[04:50] <hhee> !security | hhee
[04:50] <HypnotiX_> ok
[04:51] <HypnotiX_> can i paste the error im getting when trying to access my partition here?
[04:51] <wilee-nilee> sco_, Here, details count, such as the actual device info.
[04:51] <lotuspsychje> !paste | HypnotiX_
[04:51] <hhee> lotuspsychje : tnx
[04:51] <holstein> HeyM-Cld: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM you can scan to find suggestions about what to do if the sums dont match..
[04:51] <lotuspsychje> hhee: np mate
[04:52] <sco_> the actual device is a huwaei e160e , it worked fine with previous ubuntu installs
[04:52] <HypnotiX_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6016476/
[04:52] <kenonfire> Hey, how do i manually install packages on ubuntu. I have no internet on that computer
[04:53] <lotuspsychje> HypnotiX_: whats your purpose? backup data from your win partition?
[04:53] <HypnotiX_> thats my linux partition
[04:53] <wilee-nilee> sco_, http://askubuntu.com/questions/56960/huawei-e160-wireless-dongle-appears-as-a-drive
[04:53] <lotuspsychje> kenonfire: add your usb/livecd as source
[04:53] <HypnotiX_> i have booted from my usb now trying to reinstall ubuntu
[04:53] <holstein> kenonfire: i would take interenet to that computer.. otherwise, you can use synaptic to generate download scripts for .debs
[04:53] <HypnotiX_> and the installer doesnt work
[04:53] <kenonfire> isn't there a ubuntu official site that host packages to just download
[04:54] <HypnotiX_> it just hangs while trying to read my partition data i guess
[04:54] <wilee-nilee> sco_,  Huawei E160 Wireless Dongle is the device right?
[04:54] <kenonfire> packages.ubuntu.com
[04:54] <HeyM-Cld> holstein: Are you absolutely sure that's the problem?
[04:54] <lotuspsychje> HypnotiX_: at what part of install freeze?
[04:54] <sco_> yes wilee-nilee
[04:54] <holstein> HeyM-Cld: you are.. if the sumes dont match, the dont match.. are you absolutely sure?
[04:55] <HypnotiX_> after i chose download updates while installing and hit continue
[04:55] <HypnotiX_> so i dont get to the option to chose if i want a fresh install or not etc
[04:55] <HeyM-Cld> I mean the not matching can cause the pae problem
[04:55] <wilee-nilee> sco_, I see very little hits on ubuntu on google with it, but the thread I just posted seemed to get it working.
[04:55] <lotuspsychje> HypnotiX_: the step before partition its normal to take some time...endure a little longer
[04:56] <holstein> HeyM-Cld: you have no pae problem
[04:56] <lotuspsychje> HypnotiX_: i had to wait 5min or longer to see that step on 'some' machines
[04:56] <sco_> wilee-nilee , those solutions just say to use network manager to set up the connection , i have tried this quite a few times but still it wont connect
[04:56] <holstein> HeyM-Cld: if you have bad iso's and you try and use them, you will see errors.. like the one your friend gave that made me think you had a pae issue
[04:56] <HeyM-Cld> The problem that the disk thinks I don't have pae
[04:56] <holstein> HeyM-Cld: if you sums dont match, you dont have the iso
[04:57] <holstein> HeyM-Cld: no.. the disks dont "think", friend.. they are not the right data
[04:57] <HeyM-Cld> All 3 iso's had the same error
[04:57] <holstein> HeyM-Cld: right.. and the sums were likely bad,. if you didnt test them.. you have shared 2 bad ones with me so far
[04:57] <holstein> HeyM-Cld: test them.. and see
[04:57] <wilee-nilee> sco_, Yeah, honestly I would get one that plugged and worked, many cheap ones out there, lifes to short to have to mess with getting connected, at least for me. ;)
[04:57] <sco_> wilee-nilee   http://freetexthost.com/cbq5pdbl2y     i cant make sense of this
[04:58] <sco_> this always worked on 11.04 , ive only had an issue since installing 13.04
[04:58] <holstein> sco_: try 12.04, and consider staying there for the support term
[05:02] <lotuspsychje> is there an indicator that could show new syslog data?
[05:05] <molavy> hi
[05:06] <psy^> hai
[05:06] <helmut_> hi
[05:07] <molavy> is there merge folders what is like in windows when i copy files in winows when ask to merge folders and then ask to replace exist files with same name when i copy
[05:07] <molavy> i want do it in shell
[05:09] <molavy> there are some files with same name
[05:10] <molavy> i prefer target files to replace in my current project
[05:10] <molavy> something like merge two folder in windows that ask replace same file names
[05:10] <somsip> molavy: map cp. There is an 'prompt for overwrite' setting
[05:10] <somsip> *man cp
[05:10] <psy^> cp with -r for recursive and -i to prompt to overwrite
[05:10] <molavy> it replace folders but i want merge folders
[05:11] <HeyM-Cld> holstein: I've downloaded lubuntu 12.04 iso and checked the md5sum and it matched
[05:11] <HeyM-Cld> Before I burn it, do you think there could be any other problem?
[05:12] <print_pre1> what's the best feature in this release?
[05:12] <lotuspsychje> !best | print_pre1
[05:12] <HypnotiX_> lotuspsychje: so i waited 15min still nothing
[05:12] <print_pre1> ok
[05:12] <print_pre1> thanks
[05:13] <lotuspsychje> HypnotiX_: thats long indeed, but i know some systems might lag a long time on this step
[05:13] <HypnotiX_> i have a very good pc
[05:13] <HypnotiX_> it didnt lag at all last time i installed ubuntu
[05:14] <lotuspsychje> HypnotiX_: its more a hd scanning issue i think
[05:14] <HypnotiX_> yeah i think so too
[05:14] <lotuspsychje> HypnotiX_: it wants to know what your previous layout is etc
[05:14] <HypnotiX_> so is there any way to erase my hdd from the terminal ?
[05:15] <psy^> can vnc sessions use different xsession configs? my autostart apps keep getting duplicated
[05:15] <lotuspsychje> HypnotiX_: i would maybe delete windows partitions
[05:16] <lotuspsychje> HypnotiX_: maybe try ext4 extend to the max with gparted
[05:16] <holstein> HeyM-Cld: not before you burn it..
[05:16] <lotuspsychje> HypnotiX_: then retry your ubuntu install
[05:16] <HeyM-Cld> holstein: Positive?
[05:16] <HypnotiX_> gparted wont show me the partitions either lotuspsychje
[05:16] <HypnotiX_> hangs the same as the installer
[05:16] <lotuspsychje> HypnotiX_: hmm sounds very like a malfunctioning hd
[05:17] <HypnotiX_> so how do i wipe it clean
[05:17] <HypnotiX_> i need to get a list of the partitions first
[05:17] <lotuspsychje> HypnotiX_: freeze at recovery, freeze at install, freeze at previous kernel,...
[05:17] <holstein> HeyM-Cld: im not able to guarantee you *anything*, friend..
[05:17] <lotuspsychje> HypnotiX_: what hd brand is this?
[05:18] <HypnotiX_> western digital
[05:18] <holstein> HeyM-Cld: you checked the sums.. you burn it they are good.. then, test it out
[05:18] <lotuspsychje> HypnotiX_: speed/space?
[05:18] <HeyM-Cld> Ok
[05:18] <HypnotiX_> 500gb 7200rpm
[05:19] <lotuspsychje> HypnotiX_: there's a zero command to wipe your hd
[05:19] <lotuspsychje> someone wanna pm this command to HypnotiX_ ?
[05:20] <lotuspsychje> HypnotiX_: http://askubuntu.com/questions/142858/how-to-zero-out-a-drive
[05:21] <lotuspsychje> HypnotiX_: you can also test your hd with western digital bootdisc to see if drive fails(if ubuntu doesnt wanna install)
[05:22] <HypnotiX_> i ran that command in the terminal and nothing is happening
[05:22] <HeyM-Cld> holstein: Lets just say it failed with the same pae error. Now what?
[05:23] <lotuspsychje> HypnotiX_: did you replace the X with your drive lettre? sdA
[05:23] <HypnotiX_> and i need to know first what my partitions are named they are not all sda
[05:23] <holstein> HeyM-Cld: you said it supports the pae kernel.. i would revisit why you say that
[05:23] <lotuspsychje> HypnotiX_: sudo fdisk -l
[05:24] <HeyM-Cld> It worked, got past the pae thing holstein
[05:24] <HypnotiX_> lotuspsychje: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6016514/
[05:24] <HeyM-Cld> Woot
[05:25] <lotuspsychje> !yay | HeyM-Cld
[05:25] <holstein> HeyM-Cld: enjoy!
[05:25] <lotuspsychje> !cookie | holstein
[05:25] <HypnotiX_> so if i run the zero out command on the sdb when will i know it finished?
[05:25] <holstein> lotuspsychje: ;) yum
[05:25] <HeyM-Cld> Well, I don't know if it'll work quite yet
[05:25] <lotuspsychje> HypnotiX_: should be yes
[05:26] <lotuspsychje> HypnotiX_: what purpose is your sda?
[05:26] <wilee-nilee> holstein, hehe, take it to the bridge.
[05:26] <holstein> HeyM-Cld: just keep in mind messages are not errors.. and im off fof the night..
[05:26] <holstein> for*
[05:26] <lotuspsychje> HypnotiX_: i think this sda might cause your freezes at install
[05:27] <HeyM-Cld> holstein: Bye, thanks for all your help.
[05:27] <HypnotiX_> thats the virtual one that the usb created :)
[05:28] <lotuspsychje> HypnotiX_: i would format the whole drive, before installing ubuntu on
[05:28] <linux_> http://pastebin.com/rFeVTWsD
[05:28] <HypnotiX_> yeah but how
[05:29] <HypnotiX_> with the dd command how do i know it finished ?
[05:29] <lotuspsychje> HypnotiX_: can you take out this hd and format on other system?
[05:29] <HypnotiX_> i guess i can
[05:29] <HypnotiX_> seems a bit overkill thou :)
[05:29] <lotuspsychje> :p
[05:30] <lotuspsychje> HypnotiX_: http://askubuntu.com/questions/215505/how-do-you-monitor-the-progress-of-dd
[05:30] <linux_> how do i fix "unmet dependences"
[05:31] <lotuspsychje> linux_: what version of ubuntu are you on?
[05:31] <xmetal> at the risk of sounding like a "wise guy" ... install the needed dependencies
[05:31] <linux_> lts
[05:32] <linux_> 64
[05:32] <lotuspsychje> !info gambas3-runtime
[05:33] <lotuspsychje> linux_: http://askubuntu.com/questions/262844/how-do-i-solve-the-following-packages-have-unmet-dependencies-error
[05:33] <linux_> ok
[05:35] <fozzy> anyone use ubuntu on a laptop?
[05:35] <lotuspsychje> !ask | fozzy
[05:42] <dennisxz> hey
[05:42] <dennisxz> is there anyone out here?
[05:43] <lotuspsychje> dennisxz: 1653 users are
[05:43] <dennisxz> where country you are
[05:46] <dennisxz> ?
[05:46] <lotuspsychje> dennisxz: this is an ubuntu support channel
[05:46] <dennisxz> ok
[05:47] <dennisxz> is anyone here know how to insall firesheep in mozilla, im currently using ubuntu 12.4
[05:47] <lotuspsychje> !info firesheep
[05:48] <dennisxz> uhm ok
[05:57] <sam__> I have a ip table on my linux firewall. how can i know which ip belongs to which software?
[05:57] <sam__> there are just port numbers and ip addresses
[05:58] <lotuspsychje> !iptables | sam__
[05:58] <sam__> but I use peer gurdian
[06:00] <psy^> netstat -p should help. shows connections made by different apps / pids
[06:03] <sam__> so how can i know which port and which ip to allow?
[06:05] <sam__> !pglgui | sam__
[06:08] <lightning0> Hello
[06:09] <lightning0> Hello??
[06:09] <helmut_> hi
[06:15] <lightning0> Hello I had a question; I ran [dmesg > dmesg.txt] and then [less dmesg.txt] in a terminal and i got back a huge list of errors. would anybody like to try troubleshooting a few of them with me?
[06:16] <whizken> hey, whats a nice program to record your desktop while working?
[06:16] <whizken> Also what's a nice video editing software?
[06:16] <infamous> hello?
[06:17] <infamous> im new to IRC
[06:17] <somsip> whizken: gtk-recordmydesktop works. Lines edits video. Whether either of them are nice is up to you
[06:17] <whizken> somsip, what's the video editor that comes on media edition?
[06:17] <TishonHeart> infamous: Welcome to the wonderful world of IRC.
[06:17] <somsip> whizken: no idea.
[06:17] <infamous> can you guys see me just wondering, dont mean to be rude
[06:18] <infamous> my text is faded grey...
[06:18] <lightning0> you could try kazam
[06:18] <whizken> infamous, we all have different clients that display things differently
[06:18] <whizken> like how we see each others messages
[06:18] <TishonHeart> infamous: it's like that
[06:18] <lightning0> No it isn't it just looks tht way to you.
[06:19] <infamous> oh okay thanx, um did you guys just pm me?
[06:19] <infamous> it was red
[06:19] <lightning0> not me.
[06:19] <Extreminador> i keep receiving this error on the "instalation" part in the ubuntu software center
[06:20] <Extreminador> 2013-08-23 07:18:23,407 - softwarecenter.ui.gtk3.widgets.exhibits - WARNING - download failed: '<class 'gi._glib.GError'>', 'Operação não suportada'
[06:20] <Extreminador> is this a common error for connection failed or is something else ?
[06:21] <chamunks> I want to use cat to inject some lines into the crontab
[06:22] <chamunks> I've seen lots of reccomendations against editing the crontab directly and everyone suggests using crontab -e
[06:22] <chamunks> what can I do here?
[06:22] <chamunks> I have deployment scripts that I want to write and I cant do that by throwing things into an editor can I?
[06:22] <somsip> chamunks: crontab -l | cat amendments.txt | crontab -
[06:23] <chamunks> smashing!
[06:23] <somsip> chamunks: I use a start comment and end comment and replace everything between as part of deployment, eg:
[06:23] <lightning0> that is crontab?
[06:23] <somsip> chamunks: (crontab -l | sed "/^$CRONTAB_START/,/^$CRONTAB_END/d"; cat $WEBROOT/$PROJECT/deployment/crontabs/crontabs.$1) | crontab -
[06:24] <somsip> shuduo: if you can grab the bits out of that which might help
[06:24] <TishonHeart> This is a kind of stupid question but what would make it so the Hibernate option to not work at all, the option is always greyed out on the newer versions of Ubuntu.
[06:24] <somsip> chamunks: ^^ not shuduo, sorry
[06:24] <shuduo> somsip, :)
[06:25] <chamunks> somsip, thats fantastic!
[06:25] <chamunks> I'll copy this to a text file for my next round of coding bash!
[06:25] <chamunks> thank you very much!
[06:25] <somsip> chamunks: np. Took me long enough to figure out :)
[06:25] <chamunks> Yeah we're handling alot of that regex stuff lately.
[06:25] <sahil_> heloo my system have a broken package libx11-dev,removing it will also remove libgl1-mesa-dev,libxext-dev,libxt-dev and mesa common dev...what to do?
[06:26] <chamunks> anyways thank you very much
[06:26] <lightning0> New to IRC. so is this where i go if i have random questions regarding ubuntu?
[06:26] <sahil_> any sugesstion guys? :)
[06:26] <somsip> chamunks: you're welcome/ PM me if you want any of the surrounding scripts
[06:27] <somsip> lightning0: support related, yes. Random question might belong more in #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:30] <AlexR> HELLO
[06:32] <lightning0> Hi
[06:36] <whizken> what software do you need to make java programs?
[06:36] <AlexR> Imma let you finish, but Windows is the BEST operating system of all time.
[06:37] <whizken> AlexR, true
[06:38] <AlexR> You need the JDK (dev kit)
[06:42] <James0r2> anyone in here an expert with alsamixer and fixing sound issues? can't seem to get my audio device to recognize. my system hibernated during an install and since then no sound
[06:43] <woo> James0r2: ur system went into hibernate while you where installing?
[06:43] <grahamsavage__> i'm having a lot of issue with google chrome
[06:43] <grahamsavage__> it seems very sluggish
[06:44] <grahamsavage__> every time i change tabs, the page is white for a few seconds before it paints it
[06:44] <James0r2> woo: yeah.
[06:44] <James0r2> woo: installing via apt-get
[06:44] <woo> James0r2: been there eventually had to reinstall without add's
[06:44] <James0r2> woo: add's?
[06:44] <woo> James0r2: additional software disabled
[06:45] <woo> James0r2: its a hardware recognition thing.  Ubuntu works on the flash drive still?
[06:45] <James0r2> woo: well the app i was installing was unrelated or so i think. it was dropbox.
[06:46] <lightning0> May i ask what would the best way to set up and partition a single harddrive in a laptop for ubuntu use only. what factors should i be aware of and how can i stop problems from occurring further down the road?
[06:46] <James0r2> woo: i havn't tried but i'm pretty sure since everything was recognized and working yesterday
[06:46] <psy^> single ext4 partition, imho
[06:46] <James0r2> i havn't tried a live usb, i'm just assuming this is a software issue because of the turn of events
[06:47] <psy^> you can use gparted at a later stage if you need to shrink and create additional partitions
[06:47] <woo> James0r2: you can switch back old drivers
[06:47] <lightning0> Ive seen people mount their home folder why would you do that?
[06:47] <woo> !version
[06:47] <James0r2> i'm using KDE, and after i rebooted it asked me if i wanted to 'permenently forget about the audio devices'. stupidly i thought it was talking about how i chose to remove pulseaudio a week ago
[06:47] <lightning0> and swap space?
[06:47] <James0r2> and clicked yes
[06:48] <James0r2> naw no sound, no alsamixer, no audio devices
[06:48] <James0r2> woo: how do i do that?
[06:48] <psy^> lightning0: home folder on seperate partition is for convenience i guess, if at a later stage they want to nuke their install and try a new distro
[06:49] <woo> James0r2: can't remember exactly im looking at some configs
[06:50] <James0r2> woo: cool thx
[06:52] <lightning0> how much room do i leave for the operating system if i mount my home folder? and do i need swap space if I have 6gigs of ram.
[06:53] <woo> James0r2: has something to do with the update manager
[06:53] <opalepatrick> when mysql is started, my desktop CPU goes to 100% and the memory usage shoots up to nearly 100% (I have to stop service) on ubuntu 13.04 64bit with 8gb memory.
[06:53] <opalepatrick>  http://pastebin.com/yD5kk90s - this is the error.log followed by my.cnf. The only thing I have changed in the conf is the location of the data directory.
[06:53] <opalepatrick> the mysql install is new  on new ubuntu install
[06:54] <anonee> I'm trying to batch extract archives using tar -xvzf *.* and getting this error: tar: <filename>: Not found in archive. what could that be?
[06:54] <lightning0> help formating hard drive: how much room do i leave for the operating system if i mount my home folder? and do i need swap space if I have 6gigs of ram.
[06:55] <psy^> sounds literally like the gz archive doesn't contain a tar
[06:55] <woo> lightning0: what will you be using swap for on linux? steam?
[06:55] <psy^> o nvm
[06:55] <lightning0> woo: what is steam?
[06:56] <woo> lightning0: a entertainment system platform
[06:56] <lightning0> woo: So that involve streaming hd movies and stuff
[06:57] <woo> lightning0: think video games
[06:57] <woo> lightning0: swap is nice for heavy buffering
[06:57] <James0r2> woo: reverting to old drivers?
[06:58] <James0r2> woo: using the update manager?
[06:58] <lightning0> woo: how much swap would yyou recomend?
[06:58] <woo> James0r2: yea thats where Im at update-
[06:58] <anonee> psy^ the files are named bk_100.tar.gz, if I double click they can be opened with archive manager, and I can extract them one by one but this is gonna take time
[06:58] <woo> James0r2: I looked in some other system files and it landed me in there
[06:58] <James0r2> woo: oh i'm using Linux Mint. maybe not the same
[06:59] <woo> :o
[06:59] <auronandace> James0r2: mint isn't supported here
[06:59] <woo> ;)
[06:59] <James0r2> oh really my bad
[06:59] <James0r2> i thought it would be because it was ubuntu based
[06:59] <woo> James0r2: deb's are used
[07:00] <woo> deb and ian but thats more for ot
[07:00] <James0r2> woo: gotcha. i think this is a KDE issue anyway. i'll hit the forums. thx anyways
[07:00] <woo> James0r2: good luck
[07:00] <James0r2> woo: thx
[07:01] <lightning0> woo: how many gigs should i leave for my \ and should i put the rest of the partition in \home?
[07:01] <woo> lightning0: swap um its best to let disk managers set it up
[07:02] <woo> lightning0: at best I would use !gparted
[07:02] <anonee> anybody can help me with this? trying to batch extract .tar.gz files using tar -xvzf and I'm getting this error: tar: filename.tar.gz: Not found in archive
[07:02] <woo> lightning0: I have what like a gig or 2 on a 120 gb
[07:03] <woo> lightning0: so 2/12 1/6th of the dive overall
[07:03] <lightning0> woo: that's a 60th lol
[07:03] <whizken> any programs on ubuntu to develop flash games?
[07:05] <auronandace> lightning0: swap is only really necessary if you want to hibernate (your 6gb of ram is plenty for most other things)
[07:05] <woo> lightning0: swap on ssd is smaller normally. if you are just looking for use ablilty I would mess around with some mkfs files and look up fdisk
[07:05] <woo> !fdisk
[07:05] <woo> !pdisk
[07:05] <auronandace> !brain | woo
[07:06] <somsip> !info fdisk | woo
[07:06] <somsip> oh well...
[07:06] <woo> educawhat?
[07:06] <woo> !edubottu
[07:08] <woo> !precise
[07:10] <woo> gnight
[07:11] <Jahm> Can anyone suggest me a good vpn client for Ubuntu?
[07:13] <vlt> Jahm: I've only ever used openvpn itself as client. Works great.
[07:15] <whizken> what's good ide for html?
[07:15] <zahid-nust> whizken: eclipse works well
[07:16] <grahamsavage__> hi guys.. google chrome under ubuntu is performing really really badly and i dont' know how to identify the issue or how to fix it
[07:16] <grahamsavage__> my machine is a beast.. it should be flying
[07:17] <grahamsavage__> i switched to ubuntu from osx about 2 weeks ago and i spend most of my time in chrome
[07:17] <grahamsavage__> and it's driving me crazy
[07:17] <zahid-nust> grahamsavage__: is it just chrome?
[07:18] <grahamsavage__> zahid-nust: hmm possibly.. i dont' use many of applications
[07:18] <grahamsavage__> other*
[07:18] <grahamsavage__> x-chat always works :D
[07:18] <zahid-nust> grahamsavage__: check with some other browser to make sure its just chrome with the problem
[07:18] <zahid-nust> i would suggest firefox
[07:18] <grahamsavage__> skype runs fine, my development IDE is good
[07:19] <zahid-nust> grahamsavage__: it could be a browsing related issue
[07:20] <grahamsavage__> firefox's performance seems good
[07:20] <Jahm> Man, I'm hungry
[07:20] <grahamsavage__> oh DNS queries on my internet are very very slow
[07:20] <zahid-nust> grahamsavage__: try switching dns then?
[07:21] <Jahm> Must be your ISP
[07:21] <grahamsavage__> zahid-nust: to what?
[07:21] <Jahm> Google's DNS?
[07:21] <zahid-nust> grahamsavage__: google dns
[07:21] <grahamsavage__> Jahm: blockexd
[07:21] <zahid-nust> grahamsavage__: try level 3 then 4.2.2.1 and 4.2.2.2
[07:21] <grahamsavage__> oh ok thanks
[07:21] <Jahm> zahid-nust: who owns that DNS?
[07:22] <zahid-nust> Jahm: its operated by verizon i believe
[07:22] <Jahm> Ahh thanks
[07:22] <Jahm> How does it compared to Google?
[07:22] <Jahm> How does it perform* compared to Google?
[07:22] <zahid-nust> performance is on par for me not much of a difference between the two
[07:23] <Jahm> Thanks
[07:25] <Linh> Ari-Yang, help me i upgraded linux-image-3.4.0-030400-generic on xubuntu 12.04. Now I cannot connect to wireless networks WPA/WPA2. Manual create Network connection, it supported only WEP
[07:25] <Z0o> is it true that it is over for Linux desktop because there is no standardization, only decent user support, and still work-in-progress user friendliness, as stated by the creator of GNOME
[07:25] <HypnotiX> does anyone know if there is any difference between IE browsers in native windows and windows on a virtual box ?
[07:26] <zahid-nust> HypnotiX: its going to be the same
[07:26] <HypnotiX> well i have a very nasty inconsitancy
[07:26] <bazhang> !ot | Z0o
[07:27] <HypnotiX> a website form works perfectly on IE in native windows and does not work at all in the virtual box IE
[07:27] <zahid-nust> HypnotiX: check to see that one of those didnt update
[07:27] <zahid-nust> it could be a version issue
[07:27] <zahid-nust> with one being out of date
[07:27] <Linh> what's the web URL Hyperbyte ?
[07:27] <HypnotiX> well i was running IE in compatibility mode
[07:28] <HypnotiX> on both systems
[07:29] <zahid-nust> HypnotiX: im talking about the build version check to make sure its the same
[07:29] <convoi> help me, i upgraded linux-image-3.4.0-030400-generic on xubuntu 12.04. Now I cannot connect to wireless networks WPA/WPA2. Manual create Network connection, it supported only WEP
[07:29] <HypnotiX> of internetexplorer right
[07:30] <zahid-nust> convoi: can you paste output of iwconfig?
[07:31] <convoi> zahid-nust, i'm using windows now to join xchat. i must reboot to login to xubuntu w no internet connection
[07:32] <zahid-nust> convoi: without that its going to be hard. paste thte output to a file and save the file to the windows partition maybe?
[07:32] <convoi> zahid-nust, ok
[07:42] <anonee> ok so I found this script that i used to batch extract archives, and I wanna put it in the right-click scripts directory, the script contains: for file in /source/directory/* and I wanna replace this with a variable so I can use it with any directory. how to?
[07:44] <convoi> zahid-nust, i just pm to you
[07:49] <whizken> is there any type of documentation that's offline for c++?
[07:50] <Luyin> convoi: if you want more people to help, you should paste it here so everybody can see it.
[07:50] <whizken> like all the std libraries
[07:51] <convoi> Luyin, this my output of iwconfig wlan0     IEEE 802.11bgn  ESSID:off/any
[07:51] <convoi>           Mode:Managed  Access Point: Not-Associated   Tx-Power=16 dBm
[07:51] <convoi>           Retry  long limit:7   RTS thr:off   Fragment thr:off
[07:51] <convoi>           Power Management:off
[07:51] <convoi>           
[07:51] <convoi> lo        no wireless extensions.
[07:51] <FloodBot1> convoi: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:51] <trindaz> if i need to use sudo to run my upstart jobs, how do i give the script all my env vars that the script depends on?
[07:51] <convoi> :( flootbot
[07:52] <Luyin> convoi: read the channel's topic plz
[07:54] <convoi> this is my output of iwconfig https://app.box.com/s/n68syvcgwb401pgvu512, i can't connect to WPA/WPA2 wireless networks, only WEP in "Create wireless network"
[07:57] <convoi> i using xubuntu 12.04, This error occurs after dist-upgraded and installed linux-image 3.4
[07:57] <somsip> convoi: where did you install that kernel from?
[07:58] <convoi> somsip, from here http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v3.4-precise/
[07:59] <somsip> !PPA | convoi
[07:59] <somsip> convoi: so, unsupported. Which means we can't help
[07:59] <somsip> convoi: oh...I could be wrong. Maybe the URL is just misleading...
[08:01] <somsip> convoi: Read the quote on here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/47980/are-kernels-from-ubuntu-kernel-ppa-supported-for-the-same-time-frame-as-the-vers
[08:02] <extramarks> hi
[08:03] <extramarks> i ask one ques why not show if IP conflict in linux
[08:03] <grimeton> extramarks: it does, it starts whining in the logs
[08:04] <extramarks> show me with command for this error
[08:05] <grimeton> extramarks: grep -i "ip address" /var/log/dmesg
[08:05] <extramarks> how can edit grub
[08:06] <grimeton> extramarks: it should say something like "the host at aa:bb:cc:dd:ee:ff is using my ip address"
[08:06] <grimeton> http://getprsm.com/
[08:08] <koopa_> connect irc.spotchat.org
[08:09] <koopa_> \connect irc.spotchat.org
[08:09] <marsal> hola
[08:10] <blazemore> !grub | extramarks
[08:10] <marsal> no me deja descargar nada de software center dice que compruebe conesion a internet
[08:10] <blazemore> !es
[08:11] <blazemore> I hope that was Spanish or my ignorance is showing
[08:11] <osse> How can I see the default contents of a file a package contains? I've modified some stuff in /etc and want to compore my stuff with the defaults
[08:14] <isasha> yop
[08:14] <isasha> anyone know what this trackpad change apps shortcut is?
[08:14] <isasha> I keep using it by accident all the time
[08:18] <convoi> hi all
[08:20] <cheesecakes> hello convoi
[08:20] <zoogar> ?
[08:20] <cheesecakes> zoogar: ??
[08:21] <convoi> zoogar, yes?
[08:21] <zoogar> sorry, i'm first time here
[08:21] <convoi> zoogar, welcome!
[08:21] <zoogar> thx
[08:23] <Guest89175> test
[08:24] <somsip> convoi: in relation to your last question, this is a quote from Canonical "The mainline kernels builds are produced for debugging purposes and therefore come with no support. Use them at your own risk." http://is.gd/ZVKLAd
[08:24] <blazemore> Guest89175: We see you
[08:24] <somsip> !test | Guest89175
[08:24] <convoi> !test
[08:25] <convoi> long time no IRC chat
[08:26] <somsip> convoi: no. You were on here 25 mins ago. Anyway - do you have a support question?
[08:27] <convoi> everything is ok w me now somsip, thank you!
[08:48] <seba4> hi to all how can i create my own type of call... in ubuntu
[08:48] <seba4> like nginx -v will call -opt/path/to/somewhere/ -v
[08:49] <seba4> init.d/nginx?
[08:49] <blazemore> seba4: alias foo=bar
[08:50] <blazemore> seba4: http://askubuntu.com/questions/17536/how-do-i-create-a-permanent-bash-alias
[08:50] <seba4> thx
[08:50] <extramarks> what a easy way command on linux
[08:50] <seba4> blazemore,  now i atleast know what to read:) thx
[08:51] <convoi> how to install ubuntu one in terminal?
[08:51] <extramarks>  what basic command of admin
[08:52] <blazemore> convoi: sudo apt-get install ubuntuone-client ubuntuone-client-gnome ubuntuone-control-panel-qt ubuntuone-client-proxy
[08:52] <blazemore> !sudo | extramarks
[08:52] <convoi> ok thank blazemore
[08:53] <christos_> anyone for help?
[08:53] <blazemore> ask your question christos_
[08:54] <christos_> how can i connect my speakers with linux
[08:54] <christos_> they are not playing music
[08:54] <blazemore> Are they USB speakers?
[08:55] <extramarks> just like active directory work in linux?
[08:56] <christos_> anyone
[08:56] <christos_> ?
[08:57] <convoi> christos_, are they usb speakers?
[08:57] <christos_> no
[08:57] <christos_> jack
[08:57] <blazemore> christos_: Is it a laptop?
[08:58] <christos_> no
[08:58] <christos_> pc
[08:58] <blazemore> christos_: do you know what sound card or motherboard you have?
[08:59] <blazemore> christos_: What version of Ubuntu are you running? have you checked the speakers are powered on and their volume is turned up? Have you tried other speakers or headphones in the same jack?
[08:59] <christos_> jack is ok
[09:00] <christos_> and the speakers are on and the volume up
[09:00] <blazemore> So your sound works, but your speakers don't?
[09:00] <convoi> christos_, and soundcard driver for linux installed
[09:00] <christos_> 12.04
[09:00] <blazemore> It works with headphones or something else, christos_ ?
[09:00] <christos_> with my windows are working
[09:00] <christos_> with ubuntu no
[09:00] <christos_> yes
[09:00] <FloodBot1> christos_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:00] <blazemore> christos_: OK. Can you run the command on a terminal: alsamixer
[09:01] <blazemore> christos_: You'll see a number of faders - turn them up with the up arrow, and navigate between them with the left and right arrows
[09:01] <blazemore> Make sure they're all turned to full
[09:02] <convoi> i want to install a desktop clock like voyager desktop, what is the package name?
[09:03] <christos_> ok now are playing thank you
[09:03] <blazemore> convoi: It's called conky
[09:03] <blazemore> !conky
[09:03] <blazemore> convoi: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpConky
[09:03] <christos_> i want to ask t ubuntu 12.04 has cool application
[09:04] <christos_> close windows with fire
[09:04] <christos_> etc..
[09:04] <christos_> ?
[09:04] <blazemore> christos_: That could have all gone on one line. You want to install compizconfig-settings-manager I believe
[09:04] <convoi> ok thank blazemore
[09:05] <gsommer> How do I force Grub to not use UEFI? -no-uefi-secure-boot to grub-install does not work.  (I've disabled UEFI in BIOS)
[09:05] <extramarks> what command repair of grub
[09:06] <gsommer> "grub-install"
[09:06] <christos_> yess
[09:06] <christos_> so how can i do it
[09:06] <blazemore> christos_: Have you installed that package?
[09:06] <blazemore> sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager
[09:07] <convoi> how can i add chromium in "Open Link in Browser" list?
[09:07] <blazemore> convoi: Where is "open link in browser" ?
[09:08] <guest-J7qiqT> music
[09:08] <guest-J7qiqT> hello
[09:09] <extramarks> how can swap size increase? what command and also graphic mode
[09:09] <convoi> when i right-click a link here and choose Open Link in Browser, a drop down list appear with only Firefox, how can i add chromium into that list?
[09:09] <blazemore> extramarks: Is your swap on its own partition?
[09:09] <guest-J7qiqT> running xubuntu 12.04??
[09:09] <blazemore> convoi: where is "here" ?
[09:09] <blazemore> !xubuntu | guest-J7qiqT
[09:10] <extramarks> how can  size increase of home directory
[09:10] <guest-J7qiqT> I was running ubuntu12.04 but was sluggish with unity
[09:11] <aeon-ltd> extramarks: did you mean home partition?
[09:11] <blazemore> extramarks: Again, it depends if it's on its own partition. Can you please run the command "df -h; mount", and paste the output onto http://paste.ubuntu.com
[09:11] <convoi> blazemore, here is this xchat window, but i clicked Firefox, the drop-down list has not appear for the next time
[09:12] <blazemore> Hmm I'm not sure about xchat
[09:12] <blazemore> Does it have its own list of browsers in the preferences?
[09:13] <Elf_> Anyone with some experience of Ubuntu on low end systems around?
[09:13] <blazemore> !anyone
[09:14] <aeon-ltd> Elf_: we talking pentium 4 or lower?
[09:14] <ikonia> Elf_: people have variations of "low end" so just clarify your problem / question - and you'll get a better response
[09:14] <Elf_> 1.3Ghz Celeron and 1GB Ram.
[09:14] <cfhowlett> Elf_, lubuntu or xubuntu ...
[09:15] <blazemore> Elf_: I'd personally recommend lubuntu, or an even more lightweight (but not Ubuntu-based) distro like Crunchbang
[09:15] <aeon-ltd> Elf_: celeron from which generation or year purchased?
[09:16] <Elf_> Celly 430 apparantly - as for distro I have no preference (its for a relative) as long as it has some kinda of photo album thing, can surf the net, and has a music library/
[09:16] <blazemore> Elf_: If it's for a relative, then definitely Lubuntu
[09:16] <aeon-ltd> Elf_: hell that's irrelevant, i'm with cfhowlett+blazemore. xubuntu or lubuntu for the smoothest experience. with a gpu then you could run ubuntu + unity smootly
[09:17] <Elf_> What about a photo album program/music library program with that. (My experience with linux is pretty much server only)
[09:18] <Luyin> Elf_: there are lists of applications on the web;)
[09:18] <aeon-ltd> Elf_: once you get xubuntu or lubuntu installed you're just gonna have to find one a try them yourself
[09:19] <Elf_> Ye; was just if you recommend a particular one
[09:20] <cfhowlett> Elf_, look in the software center.  photo apps are rated
[09:20] <Elf_> Ahh kk (as i said use server with commandline only)
[09:20] <cfhowlett> Elf_, sorry.  missed that
[09:21] <aeon-ltd> Elf_: music program, i personally like rhythmbox for gui, mpd+ncmpcpp for cli
[09:21] <cfhowlett> Elf_, shotwell is pretty well regarded
[09:22] <dry[1]> hi. is there any way to get temperature readings from bios on terminal? lm-sensors doesn't detect my external temperature sensor, but bios does it.
[09:24] <scarrs> I have HUGE cpu usage with nautilus and it is causing my computer to shut down untill I killall nautilus HELP
[09:25] <blazemore> scarrs: It's possibly related to something you have mounted? What's the output of the "mount" command - put it on http://paste.ubuntu.com
[09:27] <scarrs> blazemore: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6017008/
[09:28] <blazemore> /dev/sda2 on /pagefile ?
[09:28] <blazemore> I assume you know what you're doing so I shan't question... :P
[09:28] <aljosa> can anybody recommend a detailed guide on fonts setup for gtk/qt? not gui tools, they don't work
[09:29] <scarrs> blazemore: yes I know what I am doing
[09:29] <scarrs> except with the nautilus eating my cpu 100%
[09:29] <blazemore> scarrs: Are you sure it's nautilus causing high CPU usage? Have you checked with top or something while nautilus is running?
[09:30] <extramarks> how can share file & folder linux to windows
[09:30] <blazemore> !samba | extramarks
[09:30] <scarrs> yes I am sure it's nautilus eating my cpu
[09:30] <blazemore> scarrs: Does it do it immediately on opening?
[09:30] <extramarks> how can share folder linux to windows
[09:30] <scarrs> if I don't kill nautilus my pc shuts down
[09:30] <scarrs> I have about a minute
[09:31] <blazemore> scarrs: Try unmounting all your mounted bookmarks from the sidebar
[09:32] <convoi> extramarks, http://www.noobslab.com/2012/03/configure-samba-sharing-between-ubuntu.html
[09:32] <vlitomsk> Hello
[09:32] <convoi> hi vlitomsk
[09:32] <vlitomsk> I'm configuring kernel sources, and question is: do i need NUMA support for multi-core processor ?
[09:32] <Moony22> why does not "pulseaudio -vvv | grep permission" work?
[09:33] <vlitomsk> Does anyone know?
[09:33] <blazemore> Moony22: Are you trying to get an error message? Error messages are sent to stderr, and pipe only sends stdout by default
[09:33] <blazemore> Moony22: Look here for how to pipe stderr http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2342826/how-to-pipe-stderr-and-not-stdout
[09:33] <Moony22> blazemore, but I mean when running that command
[09:34] <Moony22> the whole thing comes up
[09:34] <blazemore> Moony22: Right, that's because it's printing to stderr
[09:34] <blazemore> Moony22: Look here for how to pipe stderr http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2342826/how-to-pipe-stderr-and-not-stdout
[09:35] <Moony22> so like "pulseaudio -vvv>&1 >/dev/null | grep permission"?
[09:35] <blazemore> yes Moony22
[09:35] <Moony22> Does not work
[09:35] <Moony22> it shows the whole output again
[09:36] <blazemore> Moony22: Read the answer
[09:36] <blazemore> Moony22: I'll just tell you it... pulseaudio -vvv 2>&1 >/dev/null | grep permission
[09:36] <vmachine> i have a slow mouse issue on my ubuntu/linuxmint desktop everytime i boot i have to put this command in xset m 3 3 but then the mouse goes back to being slow after reboot
[09:36] <vmachine> how can i make that settings permanent
[09:37] <blazemore> vmachine: You can run it at startup by putting it in the startup applications
[09:37] <Moony22> oh thank you I thought the answer was saying naming "command 2" as a command
[09:38] <blazemore> vmachine: Also take a look at this Arch Linux wiki page for how to add the acceleration to your xorg file https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Mouse_acceleration
[09:38] <blazemore> you're welcome Moony22 :)
[09:38] <convoi> !apt-fast
[09:39] <blazemore> !info apt-fast
[09:39] <convoi> !jupiter
[09:39] <convoi> !info jupiter
[09:39] <somsip_> convoi: PPA only http://notblog.org/faster-updates-with-apt-fast/
[09:41] <convoi> yes ^^
[09:41] <antonpiatek> Anyone know if/where there are any unity logs? It fails to start for me (see desktop only) and I have no idea why
[09:45] <kenshiro> Hi, will be Ubuntu 12.04.3 released today?  According to wikipedia: (22 August 2013, but not released as of 23 August 2013)
[09:46] <kenshiro> or could it be postponed again?
[09:46] <cfhowlett> kenshiro, relax.  it'll be out when it's out.
[09:47] <cfhowlett> kenshiro, and no one has announced it's released date, so ... chillax
[09:48] <kenshiro> cfhowlett ok, thank you !
[09:48] <christos_> hey
[09:54] <vmachine> blazemore:  thanks i was able to put the command in my startup
[09:55] <jmnoz> Hi, my bluetooth becomes disabled when suspending my laptop and it does not re-enable on resume. How can I fix this?
[09:56] <jmnoz> (on 13.04 Raring Ringtail)
[09:56] <Elf_> Ok ubuntu has changed a bit since i last used it.
[09:59] <christos_> anyone about backtrack?
[09:59] <blazemore> !backtrack
[09:59] <Elf_> !help
[09:59] <cfhowlett> !patience|Elf_,
[09:59] <Elf_> nah was trying to access smth on my IRC server - dont actually need help
[09:59] <Elf_> just wrong channel :)
[10:00] <jmnoz> Elf_: I hope you find the "smth" you've been searching for.
[10:00] <Elf_> yea !nirvana
[10:01] <ILinuxove> Hi
[10:01] <Powermaniac> Hi
[10:01] <Elf_> Aloha
[10:02] <Powermaniac> Does anyone here know about the supposed data leaks and Amazon ads that prism-break.org mentions?
[10:02] <Powermaniac> And if they are still built into Ubuntu, and if so is there anyway to remove it?
[10:02] <ILinuxove> Prison Break ?
[10:02] <Powermaniac> https://prism-break.org/
[10:03] <Powermaniac> PRISM like the surveillance program.
[10:03] <ILinuxove> the name , from where ?
[10:04] <Powermaniac> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PRISM_(surveillance_program)
[10:04] <test_> is it possible to change directory name in home?
[10:05] <ILinuxove> Powermaniac the program between NSA and social networking ?
[10:05] <christos_> help for compiz setting manager pls?
[10:05] <Powermaniac> ILinuxove: It explains it at that wiki page.
[10:05] <gsommer> My newly installed Ubuntu cannot restart (Clicking restart in the login window does nothing). How can I fix this ?
[10:06] <christos_>  help for compiz setting manager pls?
[10:06] <ILinuxove> Powermaniac mmm yeah i see , i think it Prison break it is good series .
[10:06] <Powermaniac> >_>...
[10:08] <christos__>  help for compiz setting manager pls?
[10:09] <varunendra> !details | christos__
[10:09] <christos__> iwant help for how to set the  compiz setting manager
[10:11] <ILinuxove> can any one advice me to be a linux Certified ?
[10:11] <varunendra> christos__, have you installed the compiz-config-settings-manager package ?
[10:11] <blazemore> !ot > ILinuxove
[10:11] <christos__> no i dont know how
[10:11] <vmachine> whats your question ILinuxove
[10:11] <blazemore> christos__: did you run sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager like I said?
[10:12] <gsommer> How do I 'enable' shutdown and restart for Ubuntu 13.04 ?  When I click restart it does nothing at all. The same with shutdown. It's the those buttons have no function at all
[10:12] <christos__> no
[10:12] <ILinuxove> vmachine this is my question
[10:12] <ILinuxove> ...
[10:12] <blazemore> !ot | ILinuxove this is the Ubuntu support channel only.
[10:13] <varunendra> christos__, make sure you are connected to internet, then open a terminal (ctrl+T), and run the command "sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager" like blazemore said.
[10:14] <Powermaniac> blazemore: Does that mean if I ask about the security of ubuntu such as whether there are still data leaks to Amazon etc. would that be allowed here?
[10:15] <jubei> guys why can't the linker find some library?  /usr/bin/ld: error: cannot find
[10:15] <jubei> I can see the library, it's in /usr/local/lib
[10:15] <gsommer> if I do ctrl+alt+f1 and reboot from the console, it works fine.. but.. how do I do it from X ?
[10:16] <fudus> Powermaniac, it is on by default, you need to turn it off in winkey>privacy
[10:16] <blazemore> Powermaniac: Best to keep that sort of thing in offtopic, unless you have a support question
[10:16] <Powermaniac> Okay that you will move along to offtopic, and thanks fudus!
[10:16] <fudus> canonical has to make money somehow, so i understand why they did it, as with the pbs style beg ad when you try to download
[10:16] <sdaob-morte> alguien habla español?
[10:17] <blazemore> !es
[10:17] <christos__> i think i have prob
[10:17] <varunendra> ??
[10:17] <christos__> unable to locate packegee
[10:17] <christos__> said
[10:17] <blazemore> !info compizconfig-settings-manager
[10:17] <blazemore> christos__: sure you're spelling it right?
[10:17] <christos__> yes i think
[10:17] <christos__> how is the coppy paste
[10:18] <christos__> for sure
[10:18] <nl287> what will be price for ubuntu phone?
[10:18] <blazemore> christos__: run "sudo software-properties-gtk" and tick the box to enable the "Universe" repository
[10:18] <sdaob-morte> Fuck, el canal esta vacio
[10:18] <blazemore> !ot > nl287
[10:18] <Luyin> christos__: in the terminal, you can copy&paste with ctrl+shift+c/v or with middle mouse button
[10:19] <fudus> are you using the live usb? the default install enables universe
[10:19] <christos__> i istalled it
[10:19] <blazemore> christos__: run "sudo apt-get update" first then
[10:19] <blazemore> brb 10 minutes
[10:20] <fudus> i wonder if unity still dies if you try to log in as root...
[10:20] <christos__> ok
[10:20] <nl287> gnome should be replaced by kde. QT is much better then gtk
[10:21] <fudus> nl287, wish fulfilled in 14 lts with unity 8
[10:21] <fudus> (qt5)
[10:22] <nl287> i can tell that kubuntu is fucking good now
[10:23] <ikonia> nl287: tone down the language pleas.e
[10:23] <ikonia> please
[10:23] <ikonia> nl287: it's really not needed.
[10:23] <christos__> now?
[10:25] <nl287> christos__: yes, 13.04 is vary polished and speed
[10:25] <christos__> 12.04
[10:26] <christos__> and i habe to do now
[10:26] <christos__> what i have to do now
[10:26] <nl287> christos__: Kubuntu 13.04 Raring Ringtail
[10:26] <christos__> i have ubuntu 12.04 lts
[10:26] <christos__> what i have to do next?
[10:26] <christos__> sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager
[10:26] <christos__> ater this
[10:27] <nl287> christos__: u must install 13.04
[10:27] <christos__> whyy
[10:27] <fudus> what is the error message?
[10:30] <Myrtti> nl287: when helping, be helpful
[10:31] <Myrtti> nl287: installing 13.04 isn't a requirement if you're running 12.04, unless you have set requirements
[10:33] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[10:35] <Cira_> Im trying to install libglib2.0-dev on my 64bit kubuntu. I have the following unmet dependencies: http://pastebin.com/GUBN1A9K. Can anyone help me resolve them?
[10:36] <nl287> christos__: LTS is for servers
[10:36] <ikonia> Cira_: apt-get update first, make sure your cache is good
[10:36] <ikonia> nl287: no it's not
[10:36] <blazemore> nl287: I recommend you stop, because you're wrong
[10:36] <ikonia> nl287: please stop giving miss-information
[10:36] <Cira_> I did, apt-get update and upgrade
[10:36] <blazemore> Cira_: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get -f install
[10:36] <Cira_> then I expanded the allowed sources to inclode everything
[10:36] <Cira_> and update+upgrade again
[10:37] <fudus> go to software sources and tick the sources button?
[10:37] <blazemore> fudus: that won't help.
[10:37] <blazemore> Cira_: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get -f install
[10:37] <Cira_> -f didn't help, same message
[10:37] <Cira_> -f = force?
[10:37] <christos__> really?
[10:37] <ikonia> !info libc6-dev
[10:37] <blazemore> Cira_: *just* sudo apt-get -f install
[10:37] <ikonia> christos__: lts is for desktop or server
[10:38] <blazemore> Cira_: on its own, with no other arguments
[10:38] <christos__> i have dekstop
[10:38] <nl287> but for desktop important are for example last drivers
[10:38] <ikonia> nl287: please stop
[10:38] <ikonia> nl287: you are giving incorrect information
[10:38] <Cira_> blazemore: ok, I did... 0 upgraded, 0 installed, 0 to remove, and 3 not upgraded
[10:38] <blazemore> nl287: 12.04 is supported on the desktop. There are reasons to use later versions, but we DO support 12.04 in here.
[10:38] <blazemore> Cira_: sudo dpkg --configure -a
[10:39] <auronandace> nl287: depends on hardware and requirements, lts is just fine for desktop (hence why its supported for so long)
[10:39] <ikonia> !info libglib2.0-dev
[10:39] <Cira_> blazemore: ok, I did that, -f install and install gliblib2.0-dev still do the same thing
[10:40] <fudus> is one of your mirrors down? it is in main so it should work
[10:40] <ikonia> why would it be a mirror problem
[10:40] <blazemore> fudus: He already ran apt-get update without error
[10:40] <ikonia> it's reporting the right versions
[10:40] <ikonia> the version it wants to install is older than the version in the repo
[10:41] <ikonia> as if the cache is out of date
[10:41] <ikonia> I would clear your apt cache, re-update and re-try the install
[10:41] <blazemore> Cira_: wget rory.sh/fixpackages; sh fixpackages
[10:41] <blazemore> that will do for you what ikonia just said
[10:42] <Cira_> rory.sh/fixpackages 404's on me
[10:42] <runing_froger_> hello, is it possible to scroll screen using rdesktop? something like viewport options to scroll screen if I dont have access to whole destkop?
[10:42] <hdd3> i have a problem with my ext. hd, it is suddenly not shown anymore by fdisk -l, cant mount it, dmesg is showing sth. like [ 4345.144030] usb 4-2: device not accepting address 29, error -71 [ 4345.144055] hub 4-0:1.0: unable to enumerate USB device on port 2, winows 7 is showing error code 43: Windows has stopped this device because it has reported problems. (Code 43)
[10:42] <blazemore> sorry Cira_ try again :3
[10:43] <hdd3> someone here has suggested usbmon as a last resort, can anybody help?
[10:43] <burg> hello. wasn't ubuntu 12.04.3 supposed to be launched yesterday?
[10:44] <blazemore> Cira_: Expect it to hang for a while with no output
[10:44] <Cira_> blazemore: the console hangs, for a while now :/
[10:44] <blazemore> :)
[10:44] <Cira_> ok
[10:44] <Cira_> :)
[10:44] <runing_froger_> I mean when I connect with other computer from ubuntu to windows like this : rdesktop -g1920x1080 hostname and I dont have access to whole remote desktop. Is it possible to scroll the screen somehow?
[10:45] <Luyin> runing_froger_: have you tried a smaller resolution?
[10:45] <runing_froger_> I cannot try smaller resolutions the problems must be resolved with this resolutions
[10:45] <runing_froger_> Im thinking that maybe I can use programs like Xnest
[10:46] <runing_froger_> I create Xnest window on lets say display 2 (Xnest :2)
[10:46] <Cira_> blazemore: so the hang was due to the backing up and removing of the cache, I gather?
[10:47] <runing_froger_> than Im calling rdesktop on display 2, so I got rdesktop session inside my xnest session
[10:47] <blazemore> Yeah it copies your cache to a backup folder
[10:47] <SuperLag> If you install $APP and it creates it's own menu category, how do you get that whole menu and it's items to be found as a submenu under one of the existing options? I installed the Tizen SDK, and I'd like it to be found under Development, rather than making its own menu at the top level. See the screenshot at http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-08232013-034610am.php for context.
[10:47] <runing_froger_> maybe using xnest or something like that I can get access to functions like viewport to scroll the screen
[10:47] <Cira_> blazemore: now, unlike the last time I did the update it is upgrading those 3 packages
[10:47] <daftykins> hdd3: is it a drive within an enclosure, or a retail product (i.e. can you remove the drive from inside it?)
[10:47] <runing_froger_> any ideas?
[10:48] <hdd3> daftykins, nope, i cant open the case of the hdd, its a "one piece" disc
[10:48] <daftykins> hdd3: it's definitely spinning up ok?
[10:48] <blazemore> hdd3: Forgive me, but have you tried a different USB cable just to rule that out?
[10:49] <hdd3> daftykins, it makes the usual soinds, but it is not recognized, blazemore, yes i did i might do that again though
[10:50] <Luyin> SuperLag: edit the tizen sdk's *.desktop. change "Categories=*" to "Categories=development". not sure if it's case-sensitive, though
[10:50] <daftykins> hdd3: i'd listen for clicks coming from it too
[10:50] <daftykins> hdd3: or any repetitive mechanical sounds
[10:51] <Cira_> blazemore:  thanks for the help... hopefully things should work after the restart
[10:52] <Quest> is there a reall working no buggy software to record desktop screen and / or audio by mic?
[10:52] <hdd3> daftykins, yes it clicks when i put it on after putting it of, it really is the usual sounds it alsways made
[10:54] <hdd3> daftykins, blazemore: and i tired this 1 already: http://paulphilippov.com/articles/how-to-fix-device-not-accepting-address-error
[10:54] <blazemore> hdd3: It might just be bad luck, if it's stopped working in other systems too. Your best bet would be to rip the drive apart, put the drive into a different enclosure and see if you can get data off
[10:56] <hdd3> blazemore, have u ever done this? i mean i dont even have another enclosure
[11:00] <hdd3> can anyone help, would usbmon be worth a try???
[11:00] <dry[1]> hi. is there any way to get motherboard temperature readings from bios on terminal? lm-sensors doesn't detect my external temperature sensor, but bios does it.
[11:00] <blazemore> dry[1]: run sudo sensors-detect
[11:01] <Johnny_Linux> you may want to install lm-sensors first
[11:02] <Johnny_Linux> yes to all
[11:05] <SuperLag> Luyin: What that did was simply copy the entries under the "Tizen SDK" menu and put them under Development. The original "Tizen SDK" menu exists at the top level, and all of the child menu options are still there.
[11:05] <hdd3> will data saving tools do anything for the hd although the drive is not recognized?
[11:05] <blazemore> hdd3: It's unlikely, since you're getting USB errors, but you could look at Testdisk
[11:05] <Luyin> SuperLag: then remove the .desktop entry for the original tizen sdk menu and everything should be fine.
[11:05]  * blazemore is going on lunch now, back in an hour
[11:06] <BrunoPT> hdd3 if it's not recognized in Bios you cant do nothing
[11:06] <SuperLag> hdd3: take it to a professional
[11:07] <hdd3> BrunoTP, how do I see it in the bios?
[11:07] <hdd3> SuperLag, thanks, i will consider that
[11:08] <SuperLag> hdd3: no backup of that data?
[11:08] <magdur> guys are there alternative for itunes on ubuntu ?
[11:08] <hdd3> SuperLag, unfortunatley no :( 800gb
[11:09] <SuperLag> hdd3: 800GB of data, and no backup? o.O
[11:09] <honestly> magdur: not really. you can use banshee to sync (some?) ipods
[11:09] <honestly> I'd recommend just abandoning anything apple
[11:09] <honestly> and not looking back
[11:09] <SuperLag> Or just go all Apple.
 no actually i want to use itunes u
[11:09] <SuperLag> it's all or nothing, really
[11:09] <Cira> blazemore: no joy... same dependency isues :/
[11:10] <honestly> magdur: in this case you can't have your pie and eat it too
[11:10] <SuperLag> magdur: You can access MIT OpenCourseware and other such offerings external to iTunes.
[11:11] <Freeder> Is there a way, when using useradd with -m, to create a homedir that is totally blank, as opposed to having .profile, .bashrc, the desktop graphic, etc, created automatically?
  yes i know it but i want to acces with ubuntu
[11:14] <SuperLag> magdur: you can... use your web browser
 yes İ know it :(
[11:15] <dragan_> Any eOS users here?
[11:18] <auronandace> dragan_: not supported here
[11:27] <apb1963_> so ever since adding dmlight my system has been hosed.
[11:27] <apb1963_> Any last thoughts before I reinstall the whole thing?
[11:28] <MonkeyDust> apb1963_  dmlight is not in the repos, what is it?
[11:28] <sdaob-morte> Alguien habla español?
[11:29] <apb1963_> some kind of desktop thingy
[11:29] <MonkeyDust> !es
[11:30] <apb1963_> I was had installed unity, didn't like it...  somebody recommended replacing it with this thing.
[11:30] <apb1963_> s/was//
[11:30] <apb1963_> apparently it doesn't work with my ATI radeon card
[11:31] <daftykins> apb1963_: why don't you just remove it?
[11:31] <apb1963_> tried removing it... didn't help
[11:32] <apb1963_> it hosed my screen... couldn't use anything but CLI - and only one command at a time before I had to switch virtual terminals and back again to clear it for the next command.
[11:32] <apb1963_> So I removed it... which didn't help... and decided to reboot
[11:32] <apb1963_> saw it come up in the bootup sequence
[11:32] <linux|newb> how did you remove it?
[11:32] <apb1963_> oh and I couldn't even stop it with a service dmlight stop
[11:32] <apb1963_> complained about an instance of something or other
[11:33] <apb1963_> apt-get remove dmlight
[11:33] <apb1963_> which is how I installed (using install instead of remove of course)
[11:33] <MonkeyDust> apb1963_  reinstall would be the fastest/easiest/cleanest way, i guess
[11:33] <apb1963_> `12.04 server
[11:34] <apb1963_> well, I do have a recovery USB stick
[11:34] <MonkeyDust> apb1963_  a server with a GUI?
[11:34] <apb1963_> meh, I needed to install it to use wireshark
[11:34] <apb1963_> figured I'd just either shutdown the gui or remove it later
[11:34] <linux|newb> so confused...
[11:35] <linux|newb> nevermind... we digress. reinstall is a bit drastic for a server
[11:35] <linux|newb> has it been in production long?
[11:35] <apb1963_> Yes.  Almost 2 weeks now ;)
[11:35] <linux|newb> haha
[11:35] <linux|newb> fucking re. in. stall.
[11:35] <linux|newb> :P
[11:35] <linux|newb> oops
[11:35] <linux|newb> apologies for language
[11:36] <FloodBot1> linux|newb: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:36] <apb1963_> I'd rather not if I don't have to.  Got asterisk installed and almost working - I say almost because it seems I have a router issue... although that's still undetermined.
[11:36] <usr13> apb1963_: cat /etc/issue  #What does it say?
[11:37] <apb1963_> can't do that... it's stuck in the middle of a reboot... what do you want to know?
[11:37] <usr13> apb1963_: What version of ubuntu do you have installed?
[11:37] <thepeopleschamp> hi
[11:37] <thepeopleschamp> i so need yall help on this one thing
[11:37] <apb1963_> "Checking battery state"... You'd think I had a battery problem if I hadn't put a fresh one in.
[11:37] <apb1963_> 12.04 LTS
[11:38] <thepeopleschamp> i have been tryin to calibrate my web cam through the app Colors
[11:38] <Blackwizard_> Hi...
[11:38] <linux|newb> you're running server off a laptop?
[11:38] <thepeopleschamp> Install of the files needed fails, as usual
[11:38] <apb1963_> Old Dell desktop
[11:38] <thepeopleschamp> no regular on a laptop
[11:38] <thepeopleschamp> *
[11:38] <dry[1]> blazemore: (about sensors - I've been away from my PC) I run that several times, but this sensor is not detected or it returns wrong readings (It is working perfectly on BIOS).
[11:38] <linux|newb> cmos battery :$
[11:38] <thepeopleschamp> i am missing one file that is called wacom.cep
[11:38] <thepeopleschamp> wacomcep
[11:39] <thepeopleschamp> xsetwacom
[11:39] <apb1963_> as I said... I replaced it with a fresh one when I first installed it 2 weeks ago... even less than that.
[11:39] <thepeopleschamp> i already have ready for the calibration
[11:39] <Blackwizard_> I have a problem with my ubuntu 12.04.... after installing cinnamon on my ubuntu 12.04 when I using gnome shell, at startup desktop icons are hidden... as soon as open home folder icons become visible....
[11:39] <Blackwizard_> How can I solve this problem?
[11:39] <thepeopleschamp> i have tried accessing Share, after i installed the packets
[11:39] <thepeopleschamp> but no luck
[11:40] <linux|newb> apb1963: sorry, I was blushing at my weak assumption previously... I get it.
[11:40] <apb1963_> no problem I appreciate the effort
[11:40] <apb1963_> I'll stick in the USB stick and see what happens
[11:40] <thepeopleschamp> so i actually just need to get help on locating the file wacom.cep or if its called wacomcep
[11:41] <apb1963_> that'll help isolate
[11:41] <thepeopleschamp> if i got help on this id be happy
[11:41] <Blackwizard_> any hint???
[11:41] <linux|newb> apb1963: just to clarify, dmlight is a window manager?
[11:41] <MonkeyDust> thepeopleschamp  try    locate wacom
[11:41] <Blackwizard_> is there anybody to help me?!
[11:41] <thepeopleschamp> yea, it is not there
[11:41] <thepeopleschamp> not after showin hidden files either
[11:42] <apb1963_> to be honest, I'm not 100% sure what it is... but yes I think so
[11:42] <thepeopleschamp> can you see if you hae an easyer way off gettin this directly in google?
[11:42] <usr13> apb1963_: What is "dmlight"?
[11:42] <apb1963_> see above
[11:42] <usr13> apb1963_: Could it be lightdm?
[11:42] <Blackwizard_> I have a problem with my ubuntu 12.04.... after installing cinnamon on my ubuntu 12.04 when I using gnome shell, at startup desktop icons are hidden... as soon as open home folder icons become visible....
[11:43] <apb1963_> yes it could
[11:43] <apb1963_> almost 5am here and I haven't slept yet
[11:43] <linux|newb> Blackwizard_: from ubuntuforums.org: Use dconf editor Go to org-gnome-desktop-background and tick "Show desktop icons"
[11:43] <Blackwizard_> any hint???
[11:43] <usr13> apb1963_: And it is server edition  (12.04)?
[11:43] <Blackwizard_> linux|newb: I've check it...
[11:43] <apb1963_> correct
[11:43] <linux|newb> Blackwizard_: and rebooted, right?
[11:44] <Blackwizard_> linux|newb: but it is true... it has been marked!
[11:44] <jahm> The volume in my system tray is gone
[11:44] <jahm> How do I get it back?
[11:44] <usr13> apb1963_: You appear to have unauthorized packages
[11:44] <Blackwizard_> yeah...
[11:44] <jnhghy> I'm having troubles with cups out of a sudden, I can't add printers throw web interface, in the error log I get: http://pastebin.com/hFiXEEdS please help
[11:44] <Blackwizard_> linux|newb: yeah...
[11:44] <Blackwizard_> linux|newb: any another hint???
[11:45] <linux|newb> Blackwizard_: bug number 1085714 on launchpad.net: deleting /etc/xdg/autostart/nautilus-autostart.desktop file solved the issue
[11:45] <Blackwizard_> linux|newb: I think it is because of nemo file manager in cinnamon
[11:45] <Blackwizard_> really?
[11:45] <Blackwizard_> linux|newb: just delete it?
[11:46] <apb1963_> I didn't realize I was doing something illegal
[11:46] <linux|newb> Blackwizard_: I have no experience of issue, just curating responses
[11:46] <Blackwizard_> so nautilus can't autostart?
[11:46] <apb1963_> usb stick appears to be booting... so it's not the battery
[11:46] <apb1963_> "rescue mode"... never thought I'd actually need it... but now I'm glad I thought ahead
[11:46] <linux|newb> apb1963: could you tell me where you got dmlight from?
[11:46] <jahm> Anyone?
[11:47] <apb1963_> not that I know what I'm gonna do about it once it's booted
[11:47] <jahm> How do I add back volume to my tray?
[11:47] <Blackwizard_> any other idea about my problem?
[11:47] <daftykins> jahm: right click and add?
[11:47] <jahm> daftykins: but which app to add?
[11:47] <apb1963_> sorry... don't remember. Somebody here recommended it as his favorite
[11:48] <Blackwizard_> PLEASE! :D
[11:48] <daftykins> jahm: something volume related? :) i'll bet a google result would tell you
[11:48] <jnhghy> I'm having troubles with cups out of a sudden, I can't add printers throw web interface, in the error log I get: http://pastebin.com/hFiXEEdS please help
[11:48] <usr13> apb1963_: Why is it you have a GUI running on a server?
[11:48] <MonkeyDust> !patience | Blackwizard_
[11:48] <usr13> apb1963_: ... or did I missunderstand?  I thought you said 12.04 server?>
[11:49] <linux|newb> usr13: for wireshark apparently
[11:50] <MonkeyDust> apb1963_  so it's a laptop with server and a GUI? sounds odd to me
[11:50] <apb1963_> old Dell desktop
[11:50] <linux|newb> MonkeyDust: not laptop - I misunderstood
[11:50] <Blackwizard_> ubottu: ok... sorry for do this... I've search these sources before... but none of them could help me!
[11:50] <apb1963_> so I could figure out what's wrong with my new router that's not passing specific SIP packets
[11:50] <Blackwizard_> ubottu: ;)
[11:50] <apb1963_> anyway, I'm at a command prompt
[11:51] <Blackwizard_> ubottu: do you have any idea about my problem
[11:51] <Blackwizard_> ?
[11:51] <linux|newb> Blackwizard_: https://github.com/linuxmint/Cinnamon/issues/1235
[11:51] <Blackwizard_> linux|newb: thanks... let me check it....
[11:51] <apb1963_> just not sure what to do from here :)
[11:52] <usr13> apb1963_: So, where is "here"?
[11:52] <linux|newb> what was the package called?
[11:52] <linux|newb> apb1963_: dmlight package name?
[11:52] <apb1963_> any votes for init 3 ? :)
[11:52] <usr13> apb1963_: Did you login yet?
[11:52] <apb1963_> yes
[11:53] <apb1963_> mounted the root file system... that's it
[11:53] <apb1963_> in "rescue mode"
[11:53] <usr13> apb1963_: What exactly do you need to do?  (Not fully understanding your problem.)
[11:53] <apb1963_> avoid reinstalling
[11:53] <apb1963_> get back to where I was before installing lightdm
[11:54] <usr13> apb1963_: The system won't boot anymore?  (You said you were booting to a USB boot device?)
[11:54] <apb1963_> Using a recovery USB stick to boot
[11:54] <usr13> apb1963_: So why won't it boot?  You have a problem with one of the kernels?
[11:54] <linux|newb> apb1963_: what was the dmlight package called?
[11:55] <apb1963_> lightdm
[11:55] <usr13> apb1963_: Try this:  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[11:55] <usr13> apb1963_: Let us know what errors it gives...
[11:55] <MonkeyDust> apb1963_  lightdm is the login screen, it's not "a desktop thingy"
[11:55] <apb1963_> did update & upgrade before I installed lightdm
[11:56] <usr13> apb1963_: But you say it won't even boot now?
[11:56] <apb1963_> not sure.... all I know is it was recommended as a unity replacement
[11:56] <linux|newb> apb1963_:  you've checked in  /var/log/lightdm presumably?
[11:56] <apb1963_> no
[11:57] <usr13> apb1963_: No?   Then what exactly is the problem?  (You said you had use a boot disk to boot it up.  Right?)
[11:57] <ezech> any ubuntu one users?
[11:57] <linux|newb> apb1963_: there is a section on 'What to do if things go wrong' here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LightDM
[11:57] <ezech> wondering how well it integrates with android compared to dropbox
[11:58] <linux|newb> apb1963_: you've been through the process of starting GDM?
[11:58] <apb1963_> fatal server error.... no screens found  ... that log was created 3 days ago
[11:58] <linux|newb> apb1963_: were you connecting via ssh? ;)
[11:58] <usr13> apb1963_: pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log   #Show us resulting URL
[11:59] <apb1963_> no to gdm
[11:59] <apb1963_> yes to ssh
[12:00] <usr13> apb1963_: .... but, if you are having to use a boot disk to boot it up, you have a more serious problem than "no screens found".  Right?
[12:00] <apb1963_> can't pastebin...
[12:00] <usr13> apb1963_: WHy not?
[12:00] <linux|newb> apb1963_: a graphical login won't work via SSH
[12:00] <apb1963_> yes, more serious problem
[12:00] <usr13> apb1963_: Ok, that is what I'm getting at;  What is the problem?
[12:00] <apb1963_> linuxjnewb: I was using console for gui... was also using ssh for just other regular stuff
[12:01] <linux|newb> apb1963_: I digressed again. have you followed the steps on the wiki?
[12:02] <apb1963_> linuxjnewb: no.  At this point I can't.  I believe I'm currently in single user mode (guessing) since I booted from a rescue cd (usb stick)
[12:02] <usr13> apb1963_: Are you saying that you installed lightdm and now it won't boot?  Is that it?
[12:03] <apb1963_> I installed lightdm.  It hosed my screen.  I removed it.  It made no difference.  I rebooted.  The reboot failed.
[12:03] <apb1963_> So I plugged in the USB rescue CD stick. and booted off that.
[12:03] <apb1963_> just now
[12:03] <usr13> apb1963_: Hosed what screen?  Was it a console screen?
[12:03] <apb1963_> yes
[12:03] <linux|newb> apb1963_: you should be able to do this from live install: Edit /etc/X11/default-display-manager and set it to /usr/sbin/gdm
[12:03] <apb1963_> all screens really
[12:04] <apb1963_> ok, I will do that... brb
[12:05] <apb1963_> done
[12:05] <apb1963_> and good call
[12:05] <apb1963_> now what?
[12:05] <linux|newb> apb1963_: you tell me...
[12:05] <linux|newb> reboot :P
[12:05] <apb1963_> init 3 ?
[12:06] <usr13> apb1963_: runlevel doesn't matter
[12:06] <apb1963_> ok
[12:06] <apb1963_> i'll pull the stick and reboot
[12:08] <f3rsportas> All go to dbz-heroes.wu.lt
[12:09] <apb1963_> no dice.  fsck is clean.  Starts Apparmor, starts postfix, asterisk, apache.... hangs on "Checking battery state..."
[12:10] <apb1963_> It's an old Dell Desktop
[12:10] <usr13> apb1963_: http://askubuntu.com/questions/205695/12-04-hangs-at-checking-battery-state
[12:12] <linux|newb> apb1963_: there's also: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1859820
[12:12] <larsjaa> a
[12:17] <apb1963_> followed the first link.  Bottom line...  it was showing me the F7.... so essentially it was lightdm that was failing... switching the F1 gave me a login prompt
[12:17] <apb1963_> F7 screen
[12:17] <apb1963_> to F1
[12:17] <MonkeyDust> apb1963_  i guess reinstalling would have been faster/easier/cleaner than hanging around in this channel for so long
[12:17] <apb1963_> ran a purge
[12:17] <apb1963_> No, I disagree
[12:17] <apb1963_> This took about a half hour and I learned something...
[12:18] <usr13> apb1963_: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade ?
[12:18] <apb1963_> reinstalling would have taken longer and I learned nothing... although I still haven't rebooted yet again
[12:19] <linux|newb> apb1963_: have faith
[12:20] <apb1963_> nice.  clean reboot
[12:20] <apb1963_> all I did was switch to F1 screen and run apt-get purge lightdm
[12:21] <apb1963_> it left an /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf file, but it doesn't hurt anything and now I know it's safe to rm it
[12:21] <apb1963_> although I'm back to needing a window manager :)
[12:21] <usr13> apb1963_: Why?
[12:21] <apb1963_> so I can run wireshark
[12:21] <linux|newb> apb1963_: dude, run wireshark from another box :P
[12:22] <jmnoz> does anyone know how to make my bluetooth start after suspend/resume on laptop?
[12:22] <linux|newb> apb1963_: ...or use sniffit instead :P
[12:22] <apb1963_> hmm... I have 2 machines on my network.  One is windoze XP, the other is ubuntu.  They are both behind a TP-link router
[12:22] <apb1963_> I have asterisk running on ubuntu, and a softphone on windoze
[12:23] <apb1963_> the softphone won't register
[12:23] <apb1963_> that's the problem I started with when I ran into all this other crap
[12:23] <linux|newb> apb1963_: GUIs don't belong on servers
[12:23] <usr13> linux|newb: Exactly
[12:24] <apb1963_> not generally... and if I didn't need to use wireshark, I wouldn't have tried
[12:24] <usr13> apb1963_: And you don't really need wireshark, you could use tcpdump instead, (if that is really what you need in the first place).
[12:24] <apb1963_> tcpdump wasn't giving me what I needed to see
[12:24] <linux|newb> apb1963_: you don#t need to use wireshark. use sniffit - command line alternative
[12:24] <apb1963_> too awkward
[12:25] <plice> hi guys I have a problem with ftp and TLS . . . for some reason when the TLS is running i can log in but client won't show folders, fails to fully connect
[12:25] <usr13> apb1963_: Yes, there is also sniffit
[12:25] <apb1963_> haven't tried sniffit, but I know wireshark well enough and I actually had it working under unity just fine... but then somebody talked me into lightdm since I complained about unity
[12:25] <linux|newb> apb1963_: you're a lost cause, bro :P
[12:25] <apb1963_> lol
[12:25] <linux|newb> apb1963_: 'least the box boots. go, be merry with your GUI
[12:26] <usr13> apb1963_: Not sure you need either of them.
[12:26] <apb1963_> well, I want to use wireshark... I have it running on XP... and I want to capture packets on both sides of the router
[12:26] <apb1963_> so I can tell TP-link their router firmware is busted
[12:26] <stobix> hi. I just upgraded from 12.10 to 13.04, and now ubuntu tries to load the wrong radeon driver! How do I change this?
[12:27] <apb1963_> or they can tell me how to configure it properly so my softphone registers
[12:27] <apb1963_> one or the other
[12:28] <usr13> stobix: mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak
[12:28] <apb1963_> what a stupid error.  checking battery state... sheesh.
[12:29] <usr13> apb1963_: Was it an "error"?
[12:30] <apb1963_> In my opinion no... it was a red freakin' herring
[12:30] <apb1963_> totally threw me for a loop
[12:31] <usr13> apb1963_: Ok, well as you said b4, you learned something.  ;)
[12:31] <linux|newb> apb1963_: well, hang on...
[12:31] <linux|newb> apb1963_: what comes after 'checking battery state...'?
[12:31] <linux|newb> apb1963_: ...also, you're softconsole isn't just a port forwarding issue is it?
[12:31] <apb1963_> and since I haven't used X in years, it never occurred to me there was another screen involved.
[12:31] <stobix> usr13: I have no xorg.conf yet.
[12:31] <linux|newb> your*
[12:31] <apb1963_> Nothing comes after it... it appeared to hang there
[12:31] <apb1963_> When if fact it was actually booting behind the scenes
[12:31] <usr13> stobix: pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[12:31] <apb1963_> scene
[12:31] <usr13> stobix: (Send URL)
[12:32] <usr13> apb1963_: It ended there.
[12:32] <apb1963_> It was a case of misdirection.  They fooled me good
[12:32] <ihre> One way or another, ubuntu's installer defined my usb install media as sda, so grub2 wont install. Whats the fastest way to fix this ?
[12:32] <linux|newb> apb1963_: lol, who's "they"?
[12:32] <stobix> usr13: will do, just a minute
[12:32] <apb1963_> the lightdm guys
[12:33] <usr13> ihre: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub
[12:33] <linux|newb> apb1963_: ...those rotters, hey... building and distributing free solutions to common computing needs.
[12:33] <linux|newb> :P
[12:33] <apb1963_> meh.  They mean well.
[12:33] <apb1963_> I hold no malice
[12:34] <apb1963_> They fooled me... that's all
[12:34] <linux|newb> apb1963_: you'd have difficulty, I hear malices are huge.
[12:34]  * stobix installs pastebinit
[12:34] <apb1963_> Man you should have seen the malice I almost caught once... it was this big!
[12:35]  * linux|newb reveres
[12:35] <stobix> usr13: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6017544
[12:35] <apb1963_> Any relation to Paul Reveres?
[12:35] <linux|newb> we just got all puntastic, huh!?
[12:36] <apb1963_> You started it
[12:36] <apb1963_> I would have said "Don't get me started"... but it was already too late.
[12:36] <Johnny_Linux> autism at its best
[12:37] <apb1963_> Autumn is my favorite time of year
[12:37] <linux|newb> wow.
[12:37] <apb1963_> What about World of Warcraft?
[12:37] <Johnny_Linux> evil
[12:37] <adamk_> stobix, Run 'dmesg | grep pastbinit' please.
[12:37] <linux|newb> I'm going back to work ;)
[12:37] <apb1963_> heh
[12:37] <apb1963_> thanks for the help you and others!
[12:37] <adamk_> stobix, Sorry, make that 'dmesg | pastebinit'
[12:38] <stobix> adamk_: Exacty. That's where I got the errors from.
[12:38] <stobix> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6017560
[12:40] <adamk_> stobix, Your problem has nothing to do with the system trying to load the wrong driver...  Your GPU is locking up and the kernel driver is unable to reset it successfully.
[12:40] <DamienCassou> hi
[12:41] <stobix> adamk_: oh. Hm. I wonder what it was in the upgrade that made it do that...
[12:42] <adamk_> stobix, Quite likely just a bug in the driver.  Make sure you are using the latest kernel.  If you are, see if it works with a slightly older kernel.  You can also ask on #radeon.  One of the driver developers might have some idea what's going on
[12:42] <usr13> stobix: 13.04?
[12:42] <stobix> downgrading the kernel seems like a good idea, yes.
[12:43] <DamienCassou> I successfully mounted a network disk using cifs. I can create and remove files on the root folder of this mount point. But I can't create/remove files on subfolders. (pastbin of some related shell commands that show the problem http://pastebin.com/MJhRwTAv)
[12:43] <stobix> usr13: yep. Installed 10.04 yesterday due to my CD only being 700MB, and then upgraded to 12.XX. Today, I upgraded to 13.04, and I have to log in in the terminal and restart kdm to log in graphically.
[12:45] <Johnny_Linux> prolly just better off burning a new cd and re install
[12:45] <usr13> stobix: Wow, that is a lot of trouble just for not having a big enough CD.  You couldn't use a USB?
[12:46] <bonhoeffer> how do i tell what groups i'm a member of
[12:46] <Johnny_Linux> or, you could also use a usb stick if you dont have a cd
[12:46] <usr13> bonhoeffer: grep username /etc/group
[12:47] <bonhoeffer> usr13: thanks!
[12:47] <stobix> usr13: it was either buying a CD or a USB, and I knew that a CD would definitely work to boot off.
[12:47] <usr13> stobix: Okey dokey.
[12:47]  * stobix has had some problems with PC:s not booting from USB sticks before
[12:48] <stobix> (Also, this was my job computer, so I needed it to work fast. So far, it has only taken two days...)
[12:48] <Johnny_Linux> lol
[12:48] <illi_> Hi
[12:49] <illi_> is the LPIC a good Cert about Linux ?
[12:50] <MonkeyDust> illi_  better ask in ##linux
[12:50] <illi_> I cant
[12:50] <linux|newb> illi_: ...worrying. why not?
[12:50] <latenite> Hi folks, does 3D graphics work with new intel Hasswell GPUs?
[12:51] <illi_> i think that i am not registred
[12:54] <plice> Refusing activation of partial LV share. Use --partial to override.
[12:55] <plice> i have some issues with my lvm :/ any help?
[12:56] <caleress> hi guys i have an upstart script that works on 12.04 but fails on 10.04 :/
[12:57] <caleress> its just a basic run as different user
[12:57] <caleress> exec start-stop-daemon --start -c dev --exec /opt/dev/test.sh
[12:57] <caleress> any ideas ?
[12:58] <MonkeyDust> caleress  10.04 server or desktop? 10.04 desktop is dead
[12:59] <caleress> server of course
[12:59] <MonkeyDust> caleress  tip: there's also #ubuntu-server
[13:00] <Marlenee> is that right setting for screen command  - http://paste.ubuntu.com/6017624/
[13:00] <esing> hi
[13:00] <caleress> thanks, thats a good tip :)
[13:00] <esing> Can I use this script on ubuntu too? https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/UEFI_Bootloaders#Systemd_Automation
[13:01] <esing> Its purpose is to copy the kernel to /EFI/Boot/ if the kernel was updated
[13:01] <Pici> esing: We don't use systemd in Ubuntu.
[13:01] <esing> Pici, Yes, I know, but could I put the script into rc.localß
[13:03] <Marlenee> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6017624/  ??
[13:03] <isanet> hi
[13:04] <Pici> esing: I doubt it.  I don't believe  that we have refind on Ubuntu either.
[13:05] <esing> Pici, refind is a linux program, so you can install it on any linux distru. Refind also comes with a deb package
[13:07] <neetz> hey , my ubuntu doesnt boot into GUI  . its not boot repair i know , my question is how can i connect it to internet , i inserted a lan cable and i enter enable networking mode in adv.option but the cursor remains there
[13:07] <esing> grub2 didn't work on my system and therefor I installed refind. The problem now is, that if ubuntu's kernel gets updated I need to automate the process of copying the kernel from /boot/vmlinuz3.8...... to /boot/efi/EFI/Boot
[13:07] <neetz> hey , my ubuntu doesnt boot into GUI  . its not boot repair i know , my question is how can i connect it to internet , i inserted a lan cable and i enter enable networking mode in adv.option but the cursor remains there
[13:09] <neetz_> hey , my ubuntu doesnt boot into GUI  . its not boot repair i know , my question is how can i connect it to internet , i inserted a lan cable and i enter enable networking mode in adv.option but the cursor remains there
[13:09] <Johnny_Linux> neetz,  if omeone can help, they will, be patient
[13:10] <neetz> ok i think its quite basic , i am a ubuntu newbie here
[13:12] <MonkeyDust> neetz  inserting the cable should be enough, ethernet does not require configuration, normally, as opposed to wifi
[13:13] <MonkeyDust> neetz  what ubuntu version is it?
[13:13] <neetz> 12.04
[13:13] <neetz> and not even enable recovery mode
[13:13] <neetz> ?
[13:14] <neetz> i click enable networking mode , the cursor hangs there
[13:15] <MonkeyDust> neetz  i have never seen 'enable networking mode', it goes out of the box... where do you see that?
[13:15] <BrunoPT> in the nm-applet?
[13:15] <neetz> advanced recovery option , ( advanced options ofr ubuntu )
[13:16] <MonkeyDust> neetz  and why do you go in "recovery"? what goes wrong?
[13:16] <BrunoPT> neetz what is your graphics card?
[13:17] <neetz> its a big big story , coz i cant boot into my system gui coz of graphic card problem , and i have to install bumblebee
[13:17] <neetz> so neither livecd  works
[13:17] <BrunoPT> nVidia graphics are well known to give such problems
[13:18] <ikonia> neetz: enable safe graphics mode to manage a basic desktop and get thing sworking
[13:18] <neetz> true help to get the internet acces from adv,options
[13:18] <BrunoPT> you have to download the driver from nVidia website and install it from the terminal
[13:18] <ikonia> no you don't
[13:18] <neetz> you mean "nomodeset " ?
[13:18] <ikonia> the optimus options from nvidia.com provided modules are no better than the ones provided in the ubuntu packages
[13:18] <ikonia> neetz: no, I mean using the vesa or "safe" xorg driver,
[13:18] <neetz> what is it ?
[13:19] <ikonia> vesa is an xorg driver that's pretty much poor performing, but universal compatible
[13:19] <ikonia> neetz: it will give you a desktop - enough to sort your problems out
[13:19] <neetz> for that also i need internet to install write ?
[13:19] <neetz> right ?
[13:19] <neetz> *
[13:19] <ikonia> no
[13:19] <ikonia> it's part of the standard xorg package
[13:20] <adamk_> Bumblebee should never be required to get Xorg working...  Without it installed, Xorg should use the intel driver...  Heck, even with Bumblebee installed, Xorg should use the intel driver for all 2D functionality.
[13:20] <neetz> how do i enable it ?
[13:20] <ikonia> neetz: there should be a safe graphics mode in recover mode, or you can hardcode vesa into your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file
[13:20] <neetz> there isnt a file called xorg.conf in 12.04
[13:20] <cofffeebean>   newbie here lookin for some linux help..
[13:21] <neetz> that was only in 11.x
[13:21] <gstb> quit
[13:21] <ikonia> neetz: it's not in 11 only - you can use it in 12
[13:21] <ikonia> neetz: xorg is dynamic unless you hardcode options in xorg.conf
[13:22] <neetz> i wanted to delete file but found that there is no such file , there is conf.d folder
[13:22] <ikonia> re-read what I just said
[13:22] <cofffeebean>     HELLLO..,  newbie here lookin for some linux help pls ..
[13:22] <MonkeyDust> cofffeebean  let's hear it
[13:22] <ikonia> cofffeebean: we help with any ubuntu issues
[13:23] <neetz> @ikonia  when i tried to delete there is no such file , ok what do i do now with that file
[13:23] <cofffeebean>   monkey  ok..,  1 on one ??  ez'r for me..
[13:23] <ikonia> neetz: who said delete it ?
[13:23] <neetz> i saw one asnwer on askubuntu
[13:24] <neetz> but there was no such file , there is a x11 folder but
[13:24] <ikonia> can't be bothered anymore, I'm telling you what to do and you're answering my questions with feedback from some forum thread
[13:24] <ikonia> cofffeebean: just ask the channel
[13:24] <pranav> i have installed x11-dev package. but i couldn't find libX11.dylib. any clue guys ?
[13:25] <cofffeebean>   ikonia  is there another room where i can get some 1 on 1 help that u kno of ??..
[13:25] <neetz> ok fine @ikonia , dude tell me what to do with the file , or how do i boot to safe graphics
[13:26] <ikonia> cofffeebean: just ask the channel - the channel will help you
[13:26] <xtalmath> euhm, what is up with openjdk 6 in Ubuntu 12.04 ?
[13:26] <neetz> ok fine @ikonia , dude tell me what to do with the file , or how do i boot to safe graphics
[13:26] <ikonia> xtalmath: try to ask a "real" question, "what's is up" means nothing
[13:26] <neetz> how do i boot to safegraphics ?
[13:27] <neetz> @ikonia
[13:27] <cofffeebean>   iknoia  i'm slow reader/learner..,  i get confused tryin to read everything..
[13:27] <JyZyXEL> why does sshfs require root permission to mount a remote location to my own home directory?
[13:27] <ikonia> cofffeebean: ok, so just ask the channel - people will be patient and hilight you so you can see responses easy
[13:27] <xtalmath> multiple applications that rely on Java (6) are not functioning properly on Ubuntu 12.04, they used to though
[13:27] <ikonia> JyZyXEL: no
[13:27] <ikonia> JyZyXEL: it's user space
[13:27] <MonkeyDust> cofffeebean use your time to ask your question, not to ask where to go
[13:27] <neetz> @ikonia dude tell me how to boot into safe graphics ?
[13:27] <neetz> please helo @ikonia
[13:28] <xtalmath> for example NetBeans can no longer create new files just says "please wait"
[13:28] <JyZyXEL> ikonia: well its telling me "/etc/fuse.conf" permission denied and "failed to open mountpoint or readin: permission denied"
[13:28] <xtalmath> I insist on openjdk, and not oracle
[13:28] <smartboyhw> neetz: After the BIOS screen, click on "Shift" button on your keyboard
[13:28] <ikonia> JyZyXEL: what exactly are you doing
[13:28] <smartboyhw> And choose "Recovery mode"
[13:28] <BluesKaj> neetz, this is irc ,@ isn't needed to highlight nicks , just type the nick
[13:28] <somsip_> xtalmath: can you not use Java 7?
[13:28] <smartboyhw> There should be an option that allows you to go to graphics fallback mod
[13:28] <smartboyhw> *mode
[13:29] <JyZyXEL> ikonia: trying to mount over ssh to a directry in my home
[13:29] <ikonia> JyZyXEL: how are you trying to do that though
[13:29] <xtalmath> somsip_ has java 6 support been officially dropped?
[13:29] <neetz> press shift then ?
[13:29] <cofffeebean>   ikonia  ok then..,  need help tryin to set this up !..,  i didnt kno til earlier that it only runs off memory & not a hsdd..,  i cant find the terminal set-up so i can enter my isps info & stuff in..,  " someone sd. i might need dns nmbrs & stuff & if so..,  i dont kno my isps dns nmbrs "..,  i've never had to ask for them before..
[13:29] <xtalmath> there was a rather recent serious security flaw with 7...
[13:29] <JyZyXEL> ikonia: sshfs user@server.com ~/mount/
[13:30] <JyZyXEL> ikonia: sshfs user@server.com:/var/www/ ~/mount/
[13:30] <somsip_> xtalmath: not that I know of, but I moved to openjdk 7 to get something working that wasn't working on NB with openjdk 6. Can't remember what it was now
[13:30] <Moony22> Hey, how can I delete windows hibernation data
[13:30] <Moony22> from ubuntu
[13:30] <ikonia> JyZyXEL: just having a look
[13:31] <ikonia> JyZyXEL: just run it fine as a non-use
[13:31] <ikonia> non-root-user
[13:32] <JyZyXEL> it tells me permission denied though :\
[13:32] <ikonia> JyZyXEL: can you do it in a terminal - and pastebin you typing + output into a pastebin please
[13:32] <cofffeebean>   i give-up..,  thnks anyway..
[13:32] <ikonia> JyZyXEL: lets have a proper look at it
[13:33] <marawan2> hi guys, when i try to download firefox it shows this error
[13:34] <marawan2> Failed to fetch http://eg.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/f/firefox/firefox_22.0+build2-0ubuntu0.13.04.2_i386.deb 404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.91.13 80]
[13:34] <ikonia> marawan2: apt-get update first,
[13:34] <ikonia> marawan2: then see if it's find
[13:34] <ikonia> found
[13:34] <JyZyXEL> well im not in fuse user group u_u
[13:34] <ikonia> JyZyXEL: there we go, well done
[13:35] <macabre> hey guys - i'm trying to update a ubuntu server (natty) and when i run apt-get update i keep getting 404 errors, even when i try to run update-manager-core, any advice?
[13:35] <JyZyXEL> i wonder if i can mount a directory over ssh somehow still
[13:35] <JyZyXEL> i mean there has to be a way?
[13:35] <marawan2_> ikonia
[13:35] <ikonia> JyZyXEL: just put yourself in the fuse group
[13:36] <JyZyXEL> i don't think a user can do that?
[13:36] <ikonia> JyZyXEL: do you not have sudo permissions ?
[13:36] <homeaway> H4LLO
[13:36] <JyZyXEL> no
[13:36] <ikonia> JyZyXEL: you'll need to ask to get into the group then
[13:37] <JyZyXEL> ikonia: but for now i need to find another way
[13:37] <ikonia> JyZyXEL: you can't
[13:37] <Fireshell> hllw
[13:37] <ikonia> JyZyXEL: contact the admin, it will take 30 seconds for him to put it in the group
[13:37] <marawan> ikonia please explain
[13:37] <Guest37773> HI!
[13:37] <ikonia> marawan: explain what ?
[13:37] <bean__> macabre: do you have any custom PPAs that might be gone now?
[13:37] <JyZyXEL> i need to find a way to edit source code over ssh using the eclipse on this local computer
[13:37] <marawan> what is this update
[13:37] <ikonia> marawan: run the command "sudo apt-get update" then try to install firefox
[13:38] <DJones> !eolupgrade | macabre Natty became eol and no longer supported in October 2012, the bots end of life links may help you to upgrade, but you may find it easier to do a fresh install,
[13:38] <macabre> bean__: it looks like they are all rackspace 404's Err http://mirror.rackspace.com/ubuntu/ natty-updates/main python-apt-common all 0.7.100.3ubuntu6.1
[13:38] <ikonia> JyZyXEL: the way to do that is contact the admin quickly, have him put you in the group, or mount the directory of nfs/samba/whatever for you
[13:38] <bean__> oh, yeah, macabre, natty is EOL
[13:38] <macabre> DJones: a fresh install, is there any way around that?
[13:38] <ikonia> marawan: any way around what ?
[13:39] <ikonia> marawan: sorry macabre
[13:39] <macabre> ikonia: a fresh isntall...
[13:39] <macabre> install*
[13:39] <ikonia> macabre: read the link ubottu just gave yo u
[13:39] <ikonia> the info
[13:39] <Fireshell> i m a new user ..............i dont know how to work .............plz someone is there for helping me ........
[13:39] <macabre> gotcha
[13:39] <iceroot_> !eol | macabre (last link)
[13:39] <DJones> macabre: You can try the EOLUpgrades link, but fresh install may be simpler than having to manually update
[13:39] <ikonia> Fireshell: https://help.ubuntu.com will give you an introduction to ubuntu
[13:39] <macabre> thanks guys
[13:44] <JyZyXEL> i came to school thinking i could easily use the local computers to remotely edit my source code back at home
[13:44] <JyZyXEL> looks like i was wrong :\
[13:44] <JyZyXEL> the admins have sshfs installed on these computers but no users are in the fuse group
[13:45] <bean__> JyZyXEL: you should just use git :)
[13:45] <ladylee> hi
[13:45] <ladylee> guys i need help
[13:45] <bean__> ladylee: ask your question :)
[13:45] <ladylee> Hi bean
[13:45] <ladylee> well i have an issue
[13:46] <iceroot_> JyZyXEL: yes, use git/svn instead of sshfs
[13:46] <JyZyXEL> bean__: its so damn complicated :p
[13:46] <ladylee> the battery indicator has gone bonkers one me. sometimes it shows 1hr sometimes 2hrs.
[13:46] <bean__> JyZyXEL: you'll learn to love it :)
[13:46] <iceroot_> JyZyXEL: you ALWAYS want a version control system when working on source code. ALWAYS
[13:47] <ladylee> i dont know when exactly to charge because it keeps showing different discharge time :S
[13:47] <ladylee> 5 mins ago it was 1hr some minutes now its 2hrs and 20 mins
[13:48] <bean__> ladylee: it could be variable, depending on how much processor you're using, etc
[13:48] <ladylee> in 5mins?
[13:48] <tttt> f
[13:49] <ladylee> bean it took 5 mins to vary from 2hrs to 1hrs :S
[13:49] <iceroot_> bean__: its calculating the CURRENT powerusage and then will calculate how much you will still have with the same power usage
[13:50] <bean__> right, iceroot_
[13:50] <ladylee> like im just using IRC. :S
[13:50] <iceroot_> bean__: so if you have the system heavy under fire it will calculate maybe 1 hour, when you now switch so light work, the system will calculate something different
[13:50] <ladylee> and according to this the calculator thinks i have 2hrs and some minutes?
[13:50] <tttt> f
[13:50] <bean__> iceroot_: i think you're intending to direct these comments to ladylee
[13:50] <Nach0z> ^
[13:50] <Nach0z> lol
[13:50] <iceroot_> bean__: ah sorry
[13:50] <ladylee> lol
[13:50] <bean__> is k
[13:50] <iceroot_> ladylee: see my comment to bean__
[13:50] <ladylee> :D
[13:50] <ladylee> yes im reading those :D
[13:51] <ladylee> should i name myself LADYBEAN?
[13:51] <ladylee> :P
[13:51] <iceroot_> ladylee: and the worst thing is when your bios is using propitary stuff to offer battery information, then the system can only guess
[13:51] <ladylee> can i have an alternative app?
[13:51] <iceroot_> ladylee: so you will have a different view in windows and GNU/Linux
[13:51] <alphix> lol
[13:52] <iceroot_> ladylee: there is normally only one way to ask the battery, ACPI
[13:52] <ladylee> how to do that?
[13:52] <iceroot_> ladylee: and when that is not using standards you may face differences
[13:52] <iceroot_> ladylee: you dont have to do that, the system itself is doing that
[13:52] <ladylee> okay so no app:S
[13:52] <tttt> :quit
[13:52] <ladylee> just the reliable source :S
[13:52] <tharkun> ladylee: remaining battery is not an exact science. It has a high correlation with cpu load and screen brightness.
[13:52] <iceroot_> ladylee: there are "apps" which reads the ACPI information
[13:53] <ladylee> suggest a good one please
[13:53] <iceroot_> ladylee: like the default one from gnome/unity
[13:53] <tharkun> ladylee: acpi -V from a shell should give you a fair hint
[13:54] <xtalmath> is this the developer channel or just the users channel?
[13:54] <ladylee> do u know of an app that detects system heat?
[13:54] <iceroot_> ladylee: sensorsd
[13:54] <iceroot_> ladylee: sensord
[13:54] <xtalmath> ladylee: it is system temperature
[13:54] <iceroot_> xtalmath: its the support channel
[13:55] <xtalmath> then why is openjdk not properly supported?
[13:55] <iceroot_> xtalmath: #ubuntu-dev #ubuntu-devel or something like that, cant remember
[13:55] <iceroot_> xtalmath: it is
[13:55] <iceroot_> xtalmath: you have a real question?
[13:55] <ladylee> alright
[13:55] <ladylee> thank you so much ICEROOT :D
[13:55] <ladylee> thankyou BEAN
[13:55] <ladylee> :D
[13:55] <bean__> np ladylee
[13:55] <iceroot_> ladylee: you are welcome
[13:55] <InfoBeyond> Can I install the same Ubuntu download for a pc and a server?
[13:55] <bean__> btw in IRC you can use "tab" to auto complete nicknames
[13:55] <bean__> :)
[13:56] <iceroot_> InfoBeyond: ubuntu download?
[13:56] <InfoBeyond> yes
[13:56] <bean__> InfoBeyond: usually you'd want desktop version for the desktop, and server for the server.
[13:56] <xtalmath> yes: NetBeans fails to work, and it is documented on ubuntu that users get it to work with openjdk. the NetBeans problem doesnt seem to be reproduced non non-ubuntu based distro's
[13:56] <iceroot_> InfoBeyond: what is ubuntu download?
[13:56] <iceroot_> !bug | xtalmath
[13:56] <MonkeyDust> InfoBeyond  you mean ubuntu version?
[13:56] <InfoBeyond> ubuntu-12.04.2-desktop-amd64.iso
[13:56] <InfoBeyond> That is the one i downloaded
[13:56] <iceroot_> InfoBeyond: you can use it also on servers of course but normally servers dont use a gui
[13:57] <iceroot_> !server | InfoBeyond
[13:57] <iceroot_> there is no server specific kernel anymore, factoid should be changed
[13:58] <InfoBeyond> ok. I just wanted to start using ubuntu. have no experience with linux before. So I will try it out with the desktop version with gui
[13:58] <InfoBeyond> Thanks for the info
[13:58] <iceroot_> InfoBeyond: just a personal note, if you dont have experience with GNU/Linux, dont host a public reachable server
[13:59] <iceroot_> InfoBeyond: normally it will end up in open spam relays, warez-server and so on
[13:59] <InfoBeyond> Sure. Its just for learning and testing
[13:59] <iceroot_> InfoBeyond: ok
[13:59] <MonkeyDust> and warez-servers attract listalians
[13:59] <iceroot_> InfoBeyond: then the version you downloaded is a good way to start
[13:59] <xtalmath> Invalid OpenID transaction
[13:59] <InfoBeyond> I have worked on windows for 10 years and need to learn linux to start using hadoop
[14:00] <InfoBeyond> Thanks guys
[14:01] <xtalmath> iceroot_: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/17892776/netbeans-no-error-message-but-cant-create-a-project this is the problem I have
[14:07] <universe2014> hi
[14:08] <iceroot_> xtalmath: and that link is telling you to use an older version of openjdk
[14:09] <xtalmath> which is telling you to fix the new version of openjdk?
[14:09] <pranav> is there a channel for X11 devs ?
[14:09] <xtalmath> i am no fan of 0-days
[14:10] <eee> ping
[14:10] <honkeyzimbabwean> tried to use youtube-dl under ubuntu to dowload this video:  www.youtube.com/watch?v=wc3f4xU_FfQ thought it didn't work and I got this error: ERROR: YouTube said: This video contains content from Sony ATV Publishing and UMG. It is not available in your country.
[14:11] <eee> hi there
[14:11] <MonkeyDust> pranav  type /msg alis list *x11*     <-- with the asteriks
[14:11] <iceroot_> xtalmath: its also suggesting to use a specific path
[14:11] <slvrnekode> is there a specific filesystem i should use for the ubuntu partition that ic'm migrating a wubi install tok?
[14:12] <eee> help me pls
[14:12] <iceroot_> honkeyzimbabwean: you need a proxy in another country, that is not an ubuntu issue, its a youtube/sony/gema issue
[14:12] <iceroot_> !ask | eee
[14:12] <xtalmath> iceroot_ : where? can you give me the link?
[14:12] <pranav> MonkeyDust: hmm.. there is no channel. but thanks for the new irc command  :)
[14:12] <eee> i wanna use jupiter tool for power managment on my eee 1015pn
[14:12] <iceroot_> xtalmath: http://askubuntu.com/questions/326556/i-cant-start-a-new-project-on-netbeans
[14:12] <eee> it dont support anymore
[14:13] <eee> and dont wanna install under xubuntu 13, are any alternative features for asus eeepc ?
[14:13] <xtalmath> that is for people who agree to using Oracle's JRE
[14:14] <iceroot_> xtalmath: netbeans_jdkhome="/usr/lib/jvm/java-7-openjdk-amd64/jre"
[14:14] <iceroot_> xtalmath: i dont see anything about oracle jdk there
[14:14] <eee> !ask | eee
[14:14] <Wykat> hi
[14:14] <Wykat> does somebody know the error cam
[14:15] <Wykat> oops
[14:15] <Wykat> does somebody know the error can not mount lvm2_user?
[14:17] <burg> do you know when 12.04.3 is going to be released?
[14:18] <hdon> hi all :) is anyone successfully using imap in evolution on ubuntu 12.04 ?
[14:18] <MonkeyDust> burg  scroll down, 22 august https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseSchedule
[14:18] <hdon> my evolution does not actually display new emails until i restart it :(
[14:19] <burg> MonkeyDust, 22 august is yesterday
[14:19] <hdon> even if i click "send and receive" and it appears to connect to my imap server
[14:19] <xtalmath> It shows the splash screen, and a popup "The JDK is missing and is required to run some NetBeans modules Please use the --jdkhome command line option to specify a JDK installation or see http://wiki.netbeans.org/FaqRunningOnJre for more information. ", and I can choose Exit or Disable Modules or continue
[14:20] <eee> !ask
[14:22] <MonkeyDust> burg  yes, so it's available, your lucky day
[14:22] <burg> MonkeyDust, available where? the download page prompts me to download 12.04.2
[14:23] <MonkeyDust> burg  may depend on your timezone, give it few more days, so the links can be updated
[14:23] <holden87> Hi guys, i have  a Libreoffice related problem.  I run 64bit precise, and i installed libreoffice 4.1 via ppa, and it uninstalled my lo global menu. What is the last version in 12.04 with which the global menu is working, and how can i downgrade to it?
[14:23] <sasi> Hello I'm using 	Ubuntu 13.04. I'm getting
[14:23] <burg> MonkeyDust, can you see the new download link?
[14:24] <sasi> THe password you use no longer matches gnome keyring when I Try to add a vpn
[14:24] <MonkeyDust> burg  no, it may not yet be there
[14:24] <sasi> I tried to delete .gnome2/keyrings as said in some post . I couldn't find that
[14:24] <sasi> any ideas?
[14:25] <sasi> I opened seahorse
[14:25] <xtalmath> iceroot_ : hmm not a good solution
[14:25] <sasi> BUt it's totally blank
[14:27] <sasi> um
[14:27] <sasi> Is this the right place?
[14:27] <holden87> anyone?
[14:27] <BluesKaj> sasi, for ?
[14:27] <sasi> to ask for support
[14:28] <sasi> "The password you use no longer matches gnome keyring when I Try to add a vpn"
[14:28] <DamienCassou> I successfully mounted a network disk using cifs. I can create and remove files on the root folder of this mount point. But I can't create/remove files on subfolders. (pastbin of some related shell commands that show the problem http://pastebin.com/MJhRwTAv)
[14:29] <sasi> the thing is I don't know the old password
[14:29] <sasi> it's my friend's pc
[14:29] <sasi> I'm guessing it's the gnome keyring password
[14:31] <sasi> hmm
[14:31] <BluesKaj> the vpn app i use doesn't require a user pw
[14:31] <sasi> I'm asking about how to reset gnome keyring password
[14:31] <sasi> vpn is irrelevant
[14:32] <BluesKaj> ask your friend in that case
[14:32] <sasi> oh god
[14:32] <sasi> :/
[14:32] <sasi> I wouldn't come here if it was  a  solution
[14:33] <sasi> srsly man
[14:33] <blazemore> sasi: Your friend doesn't remember the password?
[14:33] <sasi> no
[14:33] <sasi> We have the current password
[14:33] <sasi> But how to reset this gnome keyring pass?
[14:34] <blazemore> http://askubuntu.com/questions/65281/how-to-recover-reset-forgotten-gnome-keyring-password
[14:34] <sasi> I saw that
[14:34] <blazemore> sasi: that is the first result on Google for "reset Gnome keyring password", what errors did it give you?
[14:34] <sasi> there is no /.gnome2/keyrings
[14:34] <sasi> .gnome2/ has only one folder named accels
[14:34] <blazemore> Start up Ubuntu's Dash (top most icon in Unity) Type Pas, select 'Passwords and Keys'
[14:35] <sasi> Yes. I went to seahorse
[14:35] <sasi> the window that opens is completely blank
[14:35] <sasi> there is a plus sign
[14:35] <sasi> to create new items
[14:35] <sasi> but the main portion of the window is  blank
[14:35] <blazemore> !info seahorse
[14:36] <blazemore> seahorse is different from the included tool I think
[14:36] <blazemore> Start up Ubuntu's Dash (top most icon in Unity) Type Pas, select 'Passwords and Keys'
[14:36] <vishwaprotim> hey guys.....well that wifi issue got fixed finally
[14:36] <vishwaprotim> thank god
[14:36] <sasi> The window I have opened has "password and keys" as titles
[14:37] <sasi> I Am guessing it's the same
[14:37] <sasi> Maybe it's not seahorse
[14:37] <sasi> title*
[14:37] <sasi> and it's blank
[14:37] <vishwaprotim> bdw is it possible to upgrade ubuntu without losing my files?
[14:37] <blazemore> vishwaprotim: yes
[14:37] <blazemore> What Ubuntu version, sasi?
[14:37] <sasi> any idea about this blazemore ?
[14:38] <sasi> 13.04
[14:38] <sasi> raring
[14:38] <smartboyhw> sasi: You mean, raring -> saucy?
[14:38] <sasi> Description:	Ubuntu 13.04
[14:38] <vishwaprotim> I mean suppose I upgrade it to 14 [as it get released] then will I have to backup my home folder? or can I just remain relaxed and upgrade it?
[14:38] <sasi> idk. I haven't used ubuntu before
[14:39] <sasi> lsbrelease. gives me that
[14:39] <burg> is it possible to connect to a wireless network while installing ubuntu server?
[14:39] <mojtaba> Hi, I have shrinked my windows partition with gparted, with ubuntu live, and now I have 100 G unallocated partition.
[14:40] <mojtaba> Could you please let me know how can I add it to my /home?
[14:40] <mitchell_> how do I install the patch supplied for all debian based linux users running vmware workstation 9?
[14:40] <mojtaba> Because I could not see any option in gparted.
[14:40] <pepper_chico> sad thing, at ubuntu with unity I can't get auto-hide working nice, I mean, by auto-hiding when the mouse gets close the corner… while at elementary OS, auto-hiding the Dock just works (note: both being a parallels vm http://bit.ly/1d933Pu)
[14:40] <sasi> mmmm?
[14:40] <nl287> pepper_chico: try kubuntu. much better then gnome
[14:41] <vishwaprotim> ???
[14:41] <MonkeyDust> pepper_chico  that is: if you like it more
[14:42] <pepper_chico> nl287, I accept unity…. just liked that fixed
[14:42] <sasi> you there? blazemore
[14:42] <blazemore> sasi: Sorry I am here but I'm at work, and I just need to do something
[14:42] <sasi> ok sorrry
[14:43] <sasi> anyone else have an idea?
[14:43] <mojtaba> Hi, I have shrunken my windows partition with gparted, with ubuntu live, and now I have 100 G unallocated partition. Could you please let me know how can I add it to my /home? Because I could not see any option in gparted.
[14:44] <compdoc> mojtaba, you sucessfully dual boot?
[14:44] <vishwaprotim> hey...pls answer me...
[14:44] <blazemore> mojtaba: You need to create a new partition formatted as ext4, and mount it as /home
[14:44] <mojtaba> compdoc: What do you mean? I had windows before, and now I have shrinked it.
[14:44] <blazemore> mojtaba: You also need to copy all the files that are already in /home to the new partition
[14:44] <aluminum_> hey, just out of curiosity, does anyone know how to completely reset every random setting you have changed in irssi? I have accidentall-ied auto identified as myself twice, and thus am locked out of my actual account. :p
[14:45] <vishwaprotim> Is it necessary to backup my home folder before I upgrade ubuntu?
[14:45] <justinfrontOA> Hi how do I write the script for autokey so that <ctrl>+c does a copy like on a mac or win?
[14:45] <mojtaba> blazemore: I have /home partition now
[14:45] <blazemore> vishwaprotim: It's not necessary but it's recommended
[14:45] <mojtaba> blazemore: I want to extend my /home parttition
[14:45] <blazemore> mojtaba: You can only expand partitions into free space
[14:45] <universe2014> mojtaba:  you could make an extra partion . however you can exten the home if the free space is touching the current home partition
[14:45] <vishwaprotim> oh...well and if I move entire contents of my home folder to another partition, then I guess no worry..isnt it?
[14:46] <mojtaba> blazemore: universe2014: Could you please let me know how can I do that? It says you can not have more than four partition.
[14:46] <blazemore> vishwaprotim: I'd personally recommend you maintain a backup which is physically separate from your computer
[14:46] <vishwaprotim> oh....
[14:47] <vishwaprotim> thankx
[14:47] <vishwaprotim> another thing
[14:47] <blazemore> mojtaba: If you're trying to create partitions, you can't have more than four primary partitions. You need to use logical partitions or LVM
[14:47] <convoi> hi all, i need a master password package to keep all my passwords
[14:47] <magdur> guys i cant watch video on whromium at youtube
[14:47] <vishwaprotim> well from where can I get a list of drivers supported by ubuntu?
[14:47] <blazemore> convoi: Look at KeePassX
[14:48] <mojtaba> blazemore:  I have shrinked windows partition, and now I have 100G unallocated partition and my /home is almost 90% full. I want to add that space to my home.
[14:48] <iceroot_> vishwaprotim: from the kernel itself, most drivers are in the kernel
[14:48] <blazemore> !details | magdur: What happens when you try?
[14:48] <iceroot_> !hardware | vishwaprotim
[14:48] <universe2014> mojtaba: right click select NEW on the empty space it self
[14:48] <nl287> vishwaprotim: u caninstall live and see if your hardware working
[14:48] <mojtaba> universe2014: What else should I do?
[14:48] <bmomjian> I was was seeing Firefox occasionally stuck at 100% CPU in the past few weeks, but the problem has stopped;  Did Ubuntu 12.04 fix anything in that area recently?
[14:48] <universe2014> select ext4
[14:49] <iceroot_> bmomjian: apt-get changelog firefox
[14:49] <iceroot_> bmomjian: may give you a hint
[14:49] <vishwaprotim> Actually my wifi + Bluetooth driver [rt3290] is supported by ubuntu...but only the WiFi option. Linux though detected BT hardware [used lspci in terminal] still cant find any adapters
[14:49] <vishwaprotim> I have searched the net to know that ubuntu supports only WiFi for rt3290
[14:50] <nl287> vishwaprotim: bluetooth working for me
[14:50] <vishwaprotim> really?
[14:50] <vishwaprotim> it is not working for me
[14:50] <blazemore> !bluetooth | vishwaprotim start here
[14:50] <vishwaprotim> though wifi works smoothly
[14:51] <nl287> vishwaprotim: yes but i have bluetake usb dongle
[14:51] <vishwaprotim> ?? mine is inbuilt in my laptop...driver rt3290
[14:51] <vishwaprotim> laptop model hpdv6 2320tx
[14:52] <convoi> blazemore, thank for keepassx
[14:52] <blazemore> nl287: If you're going to help, please be helpful. Saying bluetooth works for you, when you have completely different hardware from someone else is not helpful
[14:52] <nl287> vishwaprotim: then buy any dongle, there are vary chip
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[14:52] <bmomjian>  iceroot_: bingo,  change made Sat, 03 Aug 2013 19:35:36 +0100.    That must have been the fix.  Thanks  :-)
[14:52] <vishwaprotim> okay then..
[14:53] <vishwaprotim> I need some help about partition
[14:53] <magdur> "bu video şu anda kullanılamıyor"i take this error frequently
[14:53] <vishwaprotim> can I make partions after installing ubuntu, without losing any data?
[14:53] <MonkeyDust> magdur  looks turkish
[14:53] <blazemore> magdur: What does that mean in English, roughly?
[14:54] <blazemore> vishwaprotim: Yes but the fact you have to ask that means you're probably not confident with partitions, so please back up anything important first
 <blazemore>  like "this video cant play now"
[14:54] <blazemore> magdur: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[14:54] <blazemore> magdur: What version of Ubuntu are you using?
[14:54] <justinfrontOA> mmm does no one use autokey I get the impression that it's not a good place for beginners to ask questions.
[14:54] <vishwaprotim> exactly, m not confident at all
[14:55] <blazemore> !info autokey
[14:55] <blazemore> we don't support that here justinfrontOA
[14:55] <nl287> vishwaprotim: it's very simple but if you delete or resize partition there some propability losing data
[14:55] <fossjon> whats a raring?
[14:55] <blazemore> my mistake we do
[14:55] <blazemore> !info autokey-gtk
[14:55] <smartboyhw> fossjon: Ubuntu 13.04
 ubuntu 12.04
[14:55] <smartboyhw> Codenamed Raring
[14:55] <fossjon> oh
[14:55] <vishwaprotim> and though linux uses a very refined file structure [unlike windows where we have to keep C drive as empty as possible, hence we better partition] , do I really need partiton in linux [ubuntu] ?
[14:56] <blazemore> vishwaprotim: It's up to you if you want a separate /home partition
[14:56] <BluesKaj> magdur, or make sure you have ubuntu-restricted -extras installed
[14:56] <blazemore> vishwaprotim: Some people find it fits their workflow better. If you aren't sure, don't bother. Just put everything on one big partition from the very beginning
[14:57] <justinfrontOA> ok I am not using ubuntu but a clone but I am maybe setting a ubuntu vm later so the question remains how can I setup so that copy and paste don't require a shift key maybe it's sane to you but for me I am just loosing too much time.
[14:57] <blazemore> justinfrontOA: Did you look in the documentation for autokey already?
[14:57] <vishwaprotim> oh....and I recently got notifiction from chromium about a java plugin update. I have downloaded a file from their website, it is jre-7u25-linux-x64.tar.gz, how to install it?
[14:58] <blazemore> !java
[14:58] <tmmunq> dont bother with that, just install the icedtea plugin
[14:58] <johndoesz> join #django
[14:58] <johndoesz> wtf
[14:58] <blazemore>  /join #django
[14:59] <nl287> vishwaprotim: ext4 fs is needed becouse of permissions menagement
[14:59] <justinfrontOA> I don't care how I get copy and paste to work sensibly it should surely be something easy in unbuntu systems well if you actually want win/mac users using linux?
[14:59] <BluesKaj> !patience |justinfrontOA
[15:00] <blazemore> justinfrontOA: Globally, ctrl-c is copy and ctrl-v is paste. If another applications has set its own keyboard shortcuts that's something that will need to be set within that application, not in Ubuntu
[15:00] <MonkeyDust> justinfrontOA  shif-insert pastes also
[15:00] <blazemore> justinfrontOA: Also, I know you're trying to get people's backs up to get faster support, but it'll likely have the opposite effect to the desired
[15:01] <justinfrontOA> well everywhere it says it's ctrl+shift+c  I don't know I try copying links from firefox into a terminal and end up using the mouse which is mad.
[15:01] <MonkeyDust> justinfrontOA  try ctrl-v or shift-insert to paste
[15:02] <saml> hey, after upgrading to 13.04, i can't login
[15:02] <saml> i'm in tty1
[15:02] <saml> X is started, i think.. but after typing in my credentials, it just hangs
[15:03] <nl287> vishwaprotim: but u can install everything on one partition, even swap as swapfile
[15:03] <vishwaprotim> oh
[15:03] <vishwaprotim> well the commands I saw was right through the terminal
[15:03] <blazemore> justinfrontOA: ctrl-shift-c and v are used on a terminal, because ctrl-c has a special meaning in a terminal
[15:04] <vishwaprotim> though these are quite easy, I want to know a way to install the binary file....
[15:04] <vishwaprotim> for java
[15:04] <blazemore> vishwaprotim: you want the version of Java from Oracle?
[15:05] <hammond> hi
[15:05] <blazemore> vishwaprotim: I use this http://www.webupd8.org/2012/09/install-oracle-java-8-in-ubuntu-via-ppa.html
[15:05] <vishwaprotim> yeah....
[15:05] <blazemore> vishwaprotim: That has the added benefit of automatically keeping you updated through the package maneger as new upstream versions of Java are released
[15:06] <vishwaprotim> thankx
[15:08] <stobix_> gah, what it is with ubuntu and holding hands‽ Nono, we haven't detected your card, so we won't even let you install the driver.
[15:09] <konadr> Am I missing something here with my PCRE, I am trying to replace part of my bashrc (precise) perl -pi -e 's/\\u@\\h:\\w\\$ /\\u@\\H \[\\t\]\$ /' .bashrc
[15:09] <MonkeyDust> stobix_  start from the beginning, what are you doing and what goes wrong
[15:10] <Stevem737> Is Linux.Ubuntu any safer on public wifi than windows is because of the filing system?
[15:10] <blazemore> Stevem737: Yes but that's not why
[15:10] <stobix_> MonkeyDust: I'm trying to get my wireless network to function on my hp 6735b
[15:10] <blazemore> Stevem737: It's because most malware which targets computers connecting to public wifi will target Windows
[15:10] <stobix_> MonkeyDust: (That, and the graphics drivers...)
[15:10] <blazemore> Stevem737: It is no safer at protecting you against someone sniffing traffic over an unencrypted connection
[15:11] <b0x> hey, can anyone suggest a good app for taking screenshots, but with being able to select specific areas? Similar to SnagIt for windows?
[15:11] <b0x> overriding the prtscn button
[15:11] <stobix_> b0x: scrot
[15:11] <somsip_> b0x: scrot
[15:11] <blazemore> b0x: shutter
[15:12] <Stevem737> blazemore. assuming the bad guy is not simply looking over your shoulder, it would be very difficlut for him to hack into your system if he only has wondows?
[15:12] <somsip_> b0x: xsnap
[15:12] <blazemore> Stevem737: It's very difficult for him to hack into your system if YOU are running a fully-patched Windows anyway
[15:12] <blazemore> Stevem737: You are safe from the majority of malware "out there"
[15:13] <blazemore> Stevem737: However you should obviously take precautions and not use public wifi for any unencrypted communication
[15:13] <Stevem737> blazemore. OK. thanks. I was curious if Ubuntu would give a little extra safety over windows.
[15:13] <Stevem737> ...all things being equal
[15:13] <h00k> Generally, yes
[15:14] <blazemore> Stevem737: Yes it will, because of the malware thing. Please don't go running to a public wifi hotspot and then come back complaining at me that someone stole your Facebook account based on my answer though
[15:15] <Stevem737> blazemore: lol. I have no intention of blaming others for my screw ups. thanks again for your help.
[15:15] <blarghl> Stevem737: in general it's a good idea to invest in a VPN if you're going to be on unencrypted or public networks.
[15:15] <tmmunq> yeah, youre still vulnerable to attacks on cloud or webservices you use, and your network traffic being attacked, mainly because those have nothing to do with choice of OS
[15:16] <blarghl> Stevem737: but as the others are saying, password policies are very important.
[15:16] <tmmunq> install ubuntu on a home computer and make your own vpn :) or use tor
[15:16] <blazemore> Never mind investing in a VPN, just tunnel all your traffic over SSH :)
[15:16] <blazemore> vpn is overkill if you just want to do secure web browsing, since openssh can set up a proxy for you automatically over SSH
[15:17] <eSoul> Hey guys, I am running an Ubuntu 13.04 server box and I have a 2nd network card for my VirtualBox VMs.  Right now, I have to issue a "sudo ifconfig eth1 up" on boot to start the interface but I was wondering if there something something in /etc/network/interfaces I could put in to bring the interface up at boot.   It have no network configuration on it at all, just looking to "turn-on" the
[15:17] <eSoul> interface
[15:17] <Stevem737> blarghl: I disconnect from the wifi and I tether my cell phone when I start to use passowrds but its not conveient. I was looking for an alternative but I will look into VPN
[15:17] <blazemore> Also if you run your ssh server on port 53, most paid-for public wifi hotspots dont look at traffic on this port so you can tunnel all your traffic and browse for free
[15:17] <blarghl> Stevem737: actually what blazemore says is good advice - tunnelling over ssh.
[15:18] <OmSai> Hi all, I'm trying to install automake, but all the automake packages warn of "not authenticated" packages.  Why is this happening?
[15:18] <blazemore> OmSai: run "sudo apt-get update" first
[15:18] <blarghl> Stevem737, blazemore the trouble is that a shedload of apps you'll be running won't use your SSH tunnel, like chat clients, email, etc, (though email should be encrypted anyway.)
[15:18] <Stevem737> I need to do  more research. you're getting a little deep for me at this point
[15:18] <OmSai> blazemore: thanks; will do
[15:18] <vishwaprotim> hey is there any sophisticated editor for flash [as there is adobe flash cs6 for windows] ?
[15:18] <blarghl> Stevem737, blazemore that's why I like VPNs, because all traffic is routed and I don't need to worry.
[15:18] <blazemore> OmSai: Then try installing again. If either gives you an error, put it on http://paste.ubuntu.com
[15:18] <vishwaprotim> and such kind of movie, sound editors?
[15:18] <blazemore> sound editor, the answer is audacity
[15:18] <Mace268> is there a good quality regex tutorial anywhere?
[15:19] <stobix_> MonkeyDust: in more detail: lspci doesn't find my network card. I thought that installing the driver might help.
[15:19] <blazemore> no contest. Not sure about video editors
[15:19] <Stevem737> bye all. thx again
[15:20] <eSoul> vishwaprotim -- You could try OpenShot for video editing.
[15:20] <tmmunq> kdenlive and pitivi are supposed to be good too
[15:21] <vishwaprotim> is open shot good? [ I want some advanced features]
[15:21] <universe2014> vishwaprotim:  kdenlive is a bit more semi pro
[15:21] <eSoul> the homepage touts some advanced features
[15:23] <OmSai> blazemore: thanks, it works now.  I ran "Reload Package Information" from Synaptic Package Manager
[15:23]  * OmSai used Gentoo before this and is getting familiar with apt
[15:24] <eSoul> Just get used to "sudo apt-get update" and "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[15:24] <vishwaprotim> and for sound editing? [some advanced features like adobe audition]
[15:25] <blazemore> vishwaprotim: audacity
[15:25] <vishwaprotim> and is there any softwares for creating swf movies and animations? [like adobe flash]
[15:26] <vishwaprotim> *software
[15:26] <blazemore> vishwaprotim: I'd recommend Googling for these
[15:26] <blazemore> vishwaprotim: Since we're getting somewhat out of the realm of "ubuntu support" ;)
[15:26] <vishwaprotim> oh....nevertheless...thankx a lot ..[actually recently migrated from windows]
[15:27] <eSoul> Does anyone have a possible solution for my network interface issue from above, ill resend the message if you like.
[15:27] <eSoul> very welcome vishwaprotim
[15:27] <NK`> is there a way preventing trusted external repository to upgrade package they do not own ?
[15:28] <NK`> lets say if one of the ppa I added is saying it got a firefox or chromium upgrade for me
[15:28] <NK`> it will be automatically upgraded at next apt-get update && apt-get upgrade or is there something to prevent it ?
[15:29] <DJones> !pinning | NK`
[15:30] <NK`> ok i exactly thought about some pinning concept, thx ubottu
[15:30] <blazemore> *thx DJones
[15:33] <Mace268> !regex
[15:33] <NK`> oups
[15:33] <NK`> thx DJones indeed
[15:35] <DJones> No thanks needed :)
[15:43] <mojtaba> Hi, Does anybody know how can I change windows file attributes in ubuntu?
[15:43] <mojtaba> I want to hidden some files for windows
[15:43] <hexacode> where do file opens get logged.. an example in question is when i do a "require('module');" in node.js i would actually like to see which files linuxed logged as being opened and read from at that same time?
[15:44] <bean__> hexacode: it isn't really logged, persay.
[15:44] <bean__> you'd likely have to read strace output
[15:44] <WilliamS> test I am still learing irc and ubuntu
[15:44] <bean__> or look at LSOF
[15:45] <hexacode> oh coole. thanks bean__ strace will do for me; i can just aim it at the PID
[15:45] <mojtaba> Hi, Does anybody know how can I change windows file attributes in ubuntu? I want to hidden some files for windows
[15:45] <bean__> yep, it'll be pretty verbose, hexacode
[15:45] <bean__> !repeat | mojtaba
[15:50] <Mace268> anyone know of a good quality regex tutorial for a complete noob?
[15:51] <X-User> is there any way to minimize a opened window by clicking on Launcher icon?
[15:52] <phenomous> wo
[15:53] <X-User> anybody can help please?
[15:55] <Guest79594> who here know ubuntu REAL WELL?
[15:56] <bean__> Guest79594: please just ask your question
[15:56] <Guest79594> Thanks
[15:56] <Guest79594> Keyboard issue,....
[15:56] <Guest79594> on the log in
[15:56] <ozzloy> Mace268, have you tried rubular?  not a tutorial, but helpful
[15:56] <ozzloy> Mace268, http://rubular.com/
[15:57] <Guest79594> Ill type my password and when i hit "a",..it prints on screen in the box,.."as"
[15:57] <Mace268> ozzloy, thanks i'll have a look
[15:57] <Guest79594> it does the same for q prints as qw
[15:57] <blazemore> Guest79594: Does it only do it in that field?
[15:57] <Guest79594> got any ideas
[15:57] <Guest79594> no
[15:57] <ozzloy> Guest79594, is your left pinky really big?
[15:57] <Guest79594> it does it al lthru ubuntu
[15:57] <blazemore> So the fact it's your login password dialog is irrelevant?
[15:58] <blazemore> Did you spill coffee on your keyboard at any point?
[15:58] <Guest79594> correct but
[15:58] <Guest79594> thats wher ei seen it first
[15:58] <Guest79594> it happened just after an update about two or threeks ago
[15:58] <Guest79594> it happened just after an update about two or three weeks ago
[15:58] <blazemore> Guest79594: Does it still occur when you choose an older version of the kernel from the boot menu?
[15:58] <X-User> any way to move panel to the bottom in unity?
[15:58] <Guest79594> no on the coffee but that is a good question
[15:59] <Guest79594> I was thinking the kernel issue
[15:59] <Guest79594> Ill try that when i get home
[15:59]  * ozzloy holds out for fat pinky
[16:00] <Guest79594> It is a DELL laptop,..it had been running flawlessly up to that point
[16:01] <dumb_questions> Hey, bare metal restore of Ubuntu Server to a new physical server: does it matter if it's AMD or Intel as long as both are x64?
[16:02] <linux|newb> dumb_questions: you mean the distribution you install?
[16:02] <dumb_questions> from a backup.
[16:02] <MonkeyDust> dumb_questions  better ask in #ubuntu-server
[16:03] <k1l> dumb_questions: the patent is from amd so its called amd64. but both, intel and amd, work with amd64
[16:03]  * linux|newb reread - sorry dumb_questions: it does not matter
[16:05] <dumb_questions> thanks.
[16:06] <linux|newb> out of interest, anyone use a client other than KVIRC?
[16:07] <daftykins> linux|newb: irssi
[16:08] <k1l> linux|newb: there are alot of clients out there. most common are xchat and weechat, irssi besides kvirc. but there are still alot others
[16:08] <linux|newb> daftykins: k1l: cheers. I think I was a little amibiguous... others that you would recommend
[16:08] <Nach0z> irssi <3
[16:08] <linux|newb> Nach0z: cheers
[16:09] <convoi> mIRC
[16:09] <daftykins> heh
[16:09] <Nach0z> I think I'll end up writing an IRC client eventually
[16:09] <linux|newb> convoi: :P
[16:09] <Nach0z> convoi: t(^_^t)
[16:11] <convoi> ^^ goodnight all... 23:10 Vietnam time
[16:13] <megalomix> hello
[16:13] <daftykins> hi
[16:13] <megalomix> i am looking for a soap client
[16:13] <megalomix> could someone advice me ?
[16:16] <daftykins> megalomix: that's more a web developer topic than OS support. i've no idea where you'd get a better answer
[16:16] <megalomix> hmm
[16:16] <megalomix> ok
[16:17] <stobix_> megalomix: google it, I guess?
[16:17] <pranav> sry to ask, but where should i ask questions regarding X11 library based programs using gcc in ubuntu 12.04 ?
[16:17] <megalomix> itried
[16:18] <daftykins> pranav: just ask here and someone that knows what's up may reply
[16:18] <pranav> XImage *image; image = XGetImage (d, RootWindow (d, DefaultScreen (d)), x, y, 1900, 1270, AllPlanes, XYPixmap); //says "X Error of failed request:  BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes)"
[16:18] <pranav>  i can only access points within 1024x768 despite my current resolution is 1920x1280. Please Help!
[16:19] <convoi> megalomix, soapui http://en.sourceforge.jp/projects/sfnet_soapui/downloads/soapui/4.0/soapUI-x32-4_0_0.sh/
[16:19] <stroodlepup> hi
[16:19] <megalomix> i see
[16:19] <stroodlepup> i'm having problems w/ flash player
[16:19] <bean__> pranav: its either 1920x1200 or 1920x1080
[16:19] <linux|newb> stroodlepup: specifically?
[16:21] <daftykins> pranav: 1920x1270 doesn't sound like a real resolution :)
[16:21] <Mace268> 1280
[16:21] <bean__> no, its 1200, or 1080
[16:21] <Mace268> ;D
[16:21] <bean__> not 1280
[16:21] <daftykins> Mace268: no, that's not a real one to be by 1920 either
[16:22] <Mace268> true
[16:22] <daftykins> yeah well done team, state the obvious *thumbs up*
[16:23] <pranav> bean__: daftykins: Foo.. Thanks! I was seeing the Background resolution that comes in Appereance! The program works :)
[16:23] <Mace268> most wide screens are 16:9 or 16:10 i guess
[16:23] <bean__> yep
[16:23] <MonkeyDust> 16:9 here
[16:23] <pranav> mine is even smaller 1366x768
[16:23] <tmmunq> virtual machines can usually be set to weird resolutions like that, but that one is larger than 1080p, so good luck finding a monitor for it
[16:26] <daifuku> i just installed gnome ubuntu, im loving gnome3! why so much hate?
[16:27] <daifuku> hostestly i installed mint and cinnamon depressed me, it was like going back to windows 98  :P
[16:28] <linux|newb> daifuku: some people are creatures of habit
[16:29] <linux|newb> I tend not to deviate much from unity or g3
[16:29] <linux|newb> unless it's a low poered box
[16:29] <daifuku> i dont dislike unity, i think it is right there with gnome 3
[16:29] <linux|newb> in which case I go for xfce
[16:29] <chucktf> hi folks - I tried installing openoffice and seemed to have broken some dependency trees -- i'd like to just remove openoffice AND libreoffice and start over - how can i do that?
[16:30] <linux|newb> chucktf: sudo apt-get purge package-name
[16:30] <Linuxn00b> I installed gnome-session-fallback, how do I start the gnome session now?
[16:30] <k1l> daifuku: we have #ubuntu-offtopic for chatting please stick to technical support in here :)
[16:30] <daifuku> sorry
[16:30] <k1l> Linuxn00b: choose the session on the login screen
[16:31] <chucktf> thanks linux|newb
[16:31] <chucktf> let me try that
[16:31] <MonkeyDust> Linuxn00b  logout, switch, login
[16:32] <Linuxn00b> MonkeyDust: Where do you see that? http://i.imgur.com/Kp5AZRg.jpg
[16:32] <chucktf> that doesnt work - i get dependency errors stil
[16:32] <MonkeyDust> Linuxn00b  klick on the ubuntu sign
[16:32] <k1l> Linuxn00b: click on the little ubuntu symbol right to the nickname
[16:32] <ChogyDan> chucktf: if you pastebin them, I can help you
[16:32] <Linuxn00b> MonkeyDust: thanks! thats really well hidden....
[16:33] <chucktf> ok ChogyDan hang on
[16:35] <chucktf> ChogyDan, http://pastebin.com/0eGkJwRs
[16:36] <ChogyDan> chucktf: what about apt-get -f install?
[16:37] <linux|newb> ChogyDan: rated
[16:38] <chucktf> ChogyDan, http://pastebin.com/ggdKMbFp
[16:38] <johnjackson5055> Does anyone know the fix when you don't even get a purple screen on first boot?
[16:40] <ChogyDan> chucktf: looks like they really aren't compatible for side-by-side installation.
[16:40] <Felishia> how do I change the grub.cfg file so that it first loads the SO I want?
[16:40] <chucktf> ChogyDan, agreed!  but how do i clean up my mess :)
[16:41] <Felishia> it's booting with xubuntu automatically and I want that to be ubuntu
[16:41] <ChogyDan> chucktf: well, I just know the quick ways out.  delete /usr/bin/soffice and the directories /var/lib/libreoffice
[16:41] <chucktf> ChogyDan, nod... ok let me try THAT :)
[16:42] <ChogyDan> chucktf: and then redo -f install
[16:44] <chucktf> ChogyDan, same error
[16:46] <ChogyDan> chucktf: ok, maybe
[16:47] <chucktf> ChogyDan, it keeps trying to overwrite /usr/bin/soffice and is unpacking /var/lib/libreoffice..... argh
[16:48] <ChogyDan> chucktf: dpkg --remove --force-all apache-openoffice
[16:48] <NiNTENDU> Hi all :)
[16:49] <chucktf> ChogyDan, ok that was successful
[16:49] <chucktf> ChogyDan, should i do the same on libre
[16:49] <ChogyDan> chucktf: you can use that for any package that complains
[16:49] <NiNTENDU> I need some help with X11 and /dev/tty
[16:50] <chucktf> ChogyDan, ok cool - cleaning with a wide brush!
[16:50] <ChogyDan> chucktf: then back to -f install, then remove the rest of the *office packages
[16:51] <ChogyDan> chucktf: actually, you may want to do that for the packages from the purge command, libreoffice-core libreoffice-java-common
[16:51] <chucktf> ChogyDan,  i just did the -f install and that completed with no error this time
[16:52] <NiNTENDU> If i run a a simple program that try an ioctl on /dev/tty outside X11 (ctrl-alt-F1) it works fine. Inside X11 it fails. Does someone knows why?
[16:52] <ChogyDan> chucktf: ok, now your package setup is in a cleaned up state, so you can start running the purge commands
[16:52] <ChogyDan> "cleaned"
[16:52] <nikitha> is there any quivalent tool to wine ?
[16:53] <chucktf> ChogyDan,  so purge apache-openoffice AND libreoffice and THEN reinstall
[16:53] <mojtaba> Hi, I ran out of primary partition and would like to use unallocated space in my computer and add it to my /home partition. Could you please let me know what should I do?
[16:53] <ChogyDan> nikitha: for what?  wine is a library mainly
[16:53] <ChogyDan> chucktf: yeah
[16:53] <bhalash> exit
[16:53] <wilee-nilee> nikitha, playonlinux and puechable codeweavers
[16:53] <chucktf> ChogyDan, ok cool
[16:53] <wilee-nilee> purchasable*
[16:54] <Alviur> Hi, can you say me which things can I erase form ubuntu 11.04 to improve speed?
[16:54] <ChogyDan> mojtaba: use a livecd, and start a partitioning tool like gparted
[16:54] <mojtaba> ChogyDan: I have done that.
[16:54] <chucktf> ChogyDan, i did "autoremove" first - hope that works :)
[16:54] <k1l> Alviur: 11.04 is out of support anyway
[16:54] <mojtaba> But it do not let me to create a new partition or move my partitions around to add unallocated area to my /home.
[16:54] <nikitha> wilee-nilee:  which is more user friendly out those 2
[16:54] <mojtaba> ChogyDan:
[16:55] <k1l> Alviur: and if you want a more lightweight desktop better think about lubuntu
[16:55] <ChogyDan> mojtaba: I can't help right now, I have to go, sorry
[16:55] <nikitha>  hi, microsoft word troubles on wine ? it asks for msxml5 ...?
[16:55] <wilee-nilee> nikitha, Both are gui based, one costs, so it is what works for you.
[16:55] <mojtaba> anybody?
[16:55] <nikitha> wilee-nilee: which is free out of both
[16:56] <mojtaba> wilee-nilee: I ran out of primary partition and would like to use unallocated space in my computer and add it to my /home partition. Could you please let me know what should I do?
[16:56] <wilee-nilee> nikitha, playonlinux, and it is in the repos
[16:56] <tmmunq> backup your data before anything else
[16:56] <k1l> mojtaba: unmount the swap
[16:57] <k1l> mojtaba: then you can shove the partitions. but do this from a live-system and better have backups
[16:57] <wilee-nilee> mojtaba, I would want to see a picture of gparted looking at it.
[16:57] <k1l> mojtaba: (and it takes alot time)
[16:57] <nikitha> wilee-nilee: one out of box question, as guest os for windows ... which is best xp  (unstable) or win7 (slow performance) ?
[16:57] <mojtaba> k1l: Everything is unmounted. and ubuntu can not find what is one of my partitions. ( I have encrypted my system); Is it the swap partition?
[16:57] <MonkeyDust> nikitha  better ask in ##windows
[16:57] <wilee-nilee> nikitha, I would not use xp for daily use, it is vulnerable in general.
[16:58] <k1l> mojtaba: im out with encryption
[16:58] <mojtaba> wilee-nilee: I will take a picture next time and will post it here
[16:58] <Felishia> grub doesn't show up!!!!
[16:58] <wilee-nilee> nikitha, IN my opinion anyway.
[16:58] <nikitha> wilee-nilee: same with me , that exactly what i wish to convey to u
[16:58] <mojtaba> bye for now
[16:58] <Felishia> I can't choose the operative system I want
[16:58] <k1l> Felishia: left shift. press it on boot
[16:58] <Felishia> and if I press shift nothing happen
[16:58] <Felishia> k1l, doesn't work :c
[16:59] <wilee-nilee> nikitha, W7 will trim itself to a virtual.
[16:59] <Felishia> I thought it would work, so I changed timeout to 0
[16:59] <Felishia> but now it doesn't even allow me to change the timeout
[16:59] <k1l> Felishia: first you should not be running irc a s root user. what ubunut do you use exactly?
[17:00] <Felishia> k1l, this ubuntu is something I don't care much of u.u don't worry about it, I just need to know now how to change OS on grub
[17:00] <Felishia> because it doesn't show up
[17:00] <wilee-nilee> Felishia, YOu are using backtrack you alwyas have and have a different nick everytime.
[17:00] <Felishia> I always have Felishia as my nick
[17:00] <bazhang> !backtrack | Felishia
[17:00] <Felishia> and this is ubuntu lucid
[17:00] <k1l> Felishia: ok, so you are using backtrack. so ask the backtrack support how to solve this
[17:00] <Felishia> no
[17:00] <Felishia> this is ubuntu lucid geeeeeezz
[17:01] <bazhang> Felishia, /join #backtrack-linux
[17:01] <Felishia> it's not backtrack!!!
[17:01] <konr> -----
[17:01] <Felishia> I only came using "kali linux here once
[17:01] <nikitha> wilee-nilee:  trim ?  what exact u mean, i see win7 is good as master and bit stubborn as secondary ( i mean as guest os ) as it slow in nature, additional addons u have put to it via usb ( adding user to vboxusers)  or shared folder  net use i: //vboxsvr/shared .. blah blah
[17:01] <Felishia> geez this is ubuntu lucid
[17:01] <Felishia> and it's not showing up the boot entry menu
[17:01] <bazhang> !eol| Felishia
[17:01] <k1l> Felishia: dont lie. you are a root user anyway
[17:01] <bazhang> lucid is eol Felishia
[17:02] <Felishia> bazhang, I know...
[17:02] <bazhang> Felishia, not supported
[17:02] <Felishia> that's why I want to see the bot menu
[17:02] <Mace268> When PlayOnLinux says install 7z what is it talking about? 7zip?
[17:02] <tmmunq> yes
[17:02] <wilee-nilee> nikitha, W7 will run what it can in regards to the limitations of a computer or virtual in general I have found in some limitations, it is a OS it can't think.
[17:02] <Felishia> I have xubuntu 13.04 installed in another partition
[17:02] <Felishia> but if it doesn't show the menu entries how am I supposed to change them?
[17:02] <wilee-nilee> Mace268, most likely
[17:02] <smaudet> what is the version of pulseaudio recommended for current users? The output of 'pulseaudio --version' is 'pulseaudio 1.1' for me. Could someone verify this is correct? I'm on 12.04.2
[17:03] <wilee-nilee> Felishia, lucid is end of like
[17:03] <wilee-nilee> life
[17:03] <daftykins> Felishia: back trying to trash those library PCs? :)
[17:03] <Felishia> I don't care about lucid the thing is that I can't load on raring as I can't see the boot menu entry
[17:04] <daftykins> Felishia: run boot repair
[17:04] <Felishia> from lucid?
[17:04] <daftykins> assuming you installed correctly
[17:04] <Felishia> daftykins, they told me they do not care
[17:04] <daftykins> riiiight ;)
[17:04] <Felishia> yes the thing is that I changed timeout to zero
[17:04] <daftykins> no, it's either a package in livecd mode or a boot disc
[17:04] <daftykins> Felishia: so hold shift at boot time...
[17:04] <Felishia> daftykins, I did that
[17:05] <daftykins> and it contains kernels and recovery modes for Lucid only?
[17:05] <stroodlepup> linux|newb, google chrome can't display youtube videos properly, having lots of yellow dots... familliar?
[17:05] <Felishia> daftykins, yes...
[17:05] <daftykins> Felishia: so run boot repair. as i said.
[17:05] <Felishia> in a live usb?
[17:05] <dougl> how do I disable autologin... I want to password protect my login for 13.04
[17:06] <daftykins> nothing like running ones' client by root, no-sir-ee
[17:07] <daftykins> dougl: try http://askubuntu.com/questions/106428/how-to-disable-automatic-login
[17:08] <smaudet> A separate question also: where is pulseaudio started? I already found /etc/init.d/pulseaudio, however that script looks like it is forced to not run, as an environment variable is set disabling its function
[17:10] <Felishia> ahem
[17:10] <Felishia> cant I do a grub-update from my live usb/
[17:10] <wilee-nilee> Felishia, from a chroot yes
[17:10] <daftykins> Felishia: oh so you read some docs now? sure.
[17:11] <Felishia> what?
[17:11] <wilee-nilee> !chroot
[17:11] <Felishia> how can I do that chroot then? :o
[17:11] <wilee-nilee> read the link
[17:13] <daftykins> !chroot | Felishia
[17:13] <Felishia> however wilee-nilee I'm botting with xubuntu 13.04 now at it has instructions for lucid
[17:14] <Felishia> I can't believe just changing the timeout doesn't allow me to boot it
[17:15] <Felishia> when it's supposed to show up if holding shift
[17:16] <Felishia> can't I just do apt-get install grub2?
[17:16] <SwedeMike> a/win 2
[17:17] <lightning0> Hello everyone, my laptop has 2 hard drives in it, one is a msata ssd 20G and one is a traditional hard drive 500G . I would like to do a fresh install of everything. I would like all the system files and preferences to boot from the ssd and all my personal files to be stored on the traditional hard drive. How would i best accomplish this?
[17:17] <daftykins> Felishia: after chrooting yeah, if you install that in livecd it's only going to install it to the live session :P
[17:17] <dougl> daftykins, right on thanks... would you happen to know how to change the splash screen image for the login?
[17:17] <wilee-nilee> lightning0, This have W8?
[17:17] <ezra-s> lightning0, when requested how to partition the disk select the option "another..."
[17:17] <daftykins> dougl: not a clue, sorry
[17:17] <ezra-s> and manually select how you want to partition it
[17:18] <OerHeks> lightning0, easy, install ubuntu on the ssd, and add the hdd later, or choose manual installation and move your /home to the ssd
[17:18] <Felishia> daftykins, what about if I copy all the grub configuration files to the live cd and do update-grub
[17:18] <Felishia> wouldn't that send it to the MBR?
[17:18] <daftykins> Felishia: why do you want to make things more complicated instead of just following the simple commands you've been linked to?
[17:19] <lightning0> ezra-s I understand that. but where do i mount my /home, on the hdd?
[17:19] <manik> Hello. Can anybody here help me in makin the Windows key as a shortcut for the Menu?
[17:19] <Felishia> chrooting I don't know how to do it :c
[17:19] <daftykins> Felishia: do you see the irony of performing a task in a library when you're unwilling to research, read and solve problems? :)
[17:19] <micaelbergeron> lightning0, OerHeks, should the swap partition be on the SSD too?
[17:19] <daftykins> Felishia: i linked you to it!
[17:19] <wilee-nilee> lightning0, This have W8?
[17:19] <daftykins> !chroot | Felishia
[17:19] <daftykins> mmk, no response
[17:20] <wilee-nilee> very key question if you have a uefi setuo
[17:20] <lightning0> wilee-nilee: no it would be Linux not window 8
[17:20] <daftykins> Felishia: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicChroot
[17:20] <daftykins> read ^
[17:20] <Felishia> eh... the thing is that I'm reading but I'm getting even more confused
[17:20] <wilee-nilee> lightning0, Has this computer had W8 is it a uefi?
[17:20] <daftykins> Felishia: if you are unwilling to help yourself, i am unwilling to help you.
[17:20] <Felishia> daftykins, I ran boot-repair
[17:21] <Felishia> daftykins, and I'm reading at the same time
[17:21] <micaelbergeron> fwi, uefi bios are more 'sophisticated' and normally allows you to use your mouse (with icons and stuff)
[17:21] <OerHeks> micaelbergeron, i would do so, yes
[17:21] <micaelbergeron> OerHeks, isn't it a little bit write-heavy for a SSD?
[17:21] <lightning0> wilee-nilee, What do you mean by w8 and uefi?
[17:21] <daftykins> micaelbergeron: only in the case of enthusiast custom builds, more often than not that's not the case for laptops
[17:22] <MonkeyDust> Felishia  what do you want to chroot?
[17:22] <OerHeks> micaelbergeron, ssd's are more reliable now, but you can reduce swapiness and reduce log-time-writing
[17:22] <lightning0> wilee-nilee: Imma noob, sorry.
[17:22] <k1l> Felishia: take 10 minutes and read the chroot howto. then (if you are chrooted) you can remove that 0 timeout and make grub-install.
[17:22] <daftykins> MonkeyDust: honestly don't, it'll just get worse.
[17:23] <micaelbergeron> OerHeks, if you have any documentation about doing that, i'd like to learn about it.
[17:23] <Felishia> I want to change the timeout of grub to 5 or something like that as I put 0 and it doesn't show up anymore, so I want to chroot my /dev/sda6 session
[17:23] <MonkeyDust> daftykins  all right
[17:23] <Felishia> I'm stuck in 4 k1l
[17:23] <wilee-nilee> lightning0, uefi is the fast boot system from MS and part of the bios and chip set, it has some specifics such as gpt partitioning, and needs specialized installs, if you have this and just try and install you will most likelly have problems, just watching out for you is all.
[17:23] <Felishia> it says lucid, shouldn't I put raring?
[17:24] <k1l> Felishia: no, that is not what you want
[17:24] <lightning0> OerHeks how big should the swap file be?
[17:24] <wilee-nilee> this should be confirmed on any installs the small ssd is a red flag
[17:24] <k1l> Felishia: you need the "setting up the chroot" part.
[17:24] <Felishia> k1l, I'm confused, I have ubuntu lucid and ubuntu raring, I want lucid to be the default but also to be able to choose raring
[17:25] <Felishia> with lucid?
[17:25] <lightning0> OerHeks, The ssd formated is about 18.5 gigs and i have 6 gigs of ram.
[17:25] <micaelbergeron> lightning0, from my experience, 1:1 RAM/swap ratio is ALlright
[17:26] <Felishia> bash: cd: /etc/schroot: No such file or directory
[17:26] <micaelbergeron> lightning0, you could even go with 4GB swap, as 6GB is pretty good, unless you run memory intensive tasks (video encoding, ripping, image manipulation...)
[17:26] <lightning0> micaelbergeron and if i put that on the ssd will there be enough room for the system files?
[17:27] <micaelbergeron> lightning0, yes, you will have enough space.
[17:27] <OerHeks> micaelbergeron, http://askubuntu.com/questions/103915/how-do-i-configure-swappiness and lots of tuts for reducing log writing, with -noatime > i used the debian howto  https://wiki.debian.org/SSDOptimization
[17:27] <k1l> Felishia: see this howto: http://karuppuswamy.com/wordpress/2010/06/02/how-to-chroot-to-ubuntu-using-live-cd-to-fix-grub-rescue-prompt/
[17:27] <micaelbergeron> OerHeks, thank you sir.
[17:27] <lightning0> micaelbergeron isthere any other mount points i should make?
[17:28] <micaelbergeron> lightning0, the rest of the installation is pretty standard.
[17:28] <OerHeks> lightning0, let the installer make the size, as it makes the right size of diskspace, ramsize and a few kb's more fore other needed space
[17:29] <OerHeks> lightning0, only if you want hybernate, else you are free to change the size
[17:29] <fartface> I've got a 12.04 x64 Server, and I'm trying to determine where all of my RAM is going.  I have 8gb of RAM, and top is saying that 7195044k is used, and only 155xxxk is free, which is crazy to me as I'm only running SABNZBD+, transmission-daemon, and phpvirtualbox (no VMs running)
[17:29] <micaelbergeron> lightning0, which could come handy on a laptop
[17:29] <micaelbergeron> fartface, run free -m
[17:29] <fartface> If I run top -c, and hit shift-m, the highest %MEM is 0.9
[17:29] <fartface> micaelbergeron: I have, little to no difference.
[17:29] <lightning0> OerHeks, With the ssd  i dont care about hybenation.
[17:30] <OerHeks> lightning0, oke, then maybe 4 gb is enough
[17:31] <lightning0> So will my system prefrences be on the ssd?
[17:31] <fartface> Is there another alternative to top?
[17:31] <micaelbergeron> fartface, http://goo.gl/hERzq
[17:31] <k1l> fartface: htop?
[17:31] <OerHeks> fartface htop, but running sabnzbd and transmisson can suck up your ram, wich is fine
[17:32] <fartface> micael: That's saying that it won't use swap, but top is saying that swap is in use.
[17:32] <k1l> fartface: reading your real issue is: look at free -m and look at the scond line. and remember: ram is to be used. free ram doesnt help anyone
[17:33] <dougl> anyone know how to change the splash screen when 13.04 boots and asks for password...
[17:33] <dougl> I have tried changing the image in system settings under login screen and checked /etc/lightdm/lightdm-kde-greeter.conf...
[17:33] <Nach0z> very carefully
[17:33] <micaelbergeron> fartface, so you are swapping?
[17:33] <dougl> but when I get to the login screen the background is blank (white)
[17:33] <fartface> k1l: Second line being -/+ buffers/cache?
[17:34] <Felishia> now those instructions were understantable
[17:34] <k1l> fartface: yes
[17:34] <fartface> Ah, then yes, looks like a huge chunk of it is cached.
[17:34] <Felishia> I'm chroot now
[17:34] <xyz123> accidentlly deleted /lib : BUT i have a copy of it on another partition, only issue is that ive rebooted and the system won't obviously boot up. :) can i use live cd to restore it? if so how?
[17:34] <fartface> So then, nothing to worry about,  I don't need to add RAM?
[17:34] <k1l> fartface: and that cached stuff is what seeds up your amchine. not free ram
[17:34] <xyz123> fartface: i like your nick hahaha :)
[17:34] <ikonia> xyz123: boot the livecd and copy it from the back to the target
[17:35] <k1l> *speeds your machine
[17:35] <Felishia> I "apparently" fixed the boot... ¬¬
[17:35] <Felishia> hope it works
[17:35] <Felishia> halt
[17:35] <smaudet> re my first question,  nvm I answered it
[17:35] <fartface> xyz123: fartfacepoopypants was too long for the server, but it shortened alright, haha
[17:35] <xyz123> ikonia: im on the livecd right now with an open term. how do i access my old drives to copy it back?
[17:35] <xyz123> fartface: lol :)
[17:35] <reddeath68> is anyone having problems with the latest kernel of 13.04
[17:35] <fartface> Cheers for the heads up everyone
[17:35] <ikonia> xyz123: you mount the disk
[17:36] <k1l> reddeath68: better ask what your real question is
[17:36] <fartface> It's a steep learning curve, but I feel more and more comfortable with it every day haha
[17:36] <Mike9863> I am trying to use my Ubuntu server as a proxy. I connected to ssh with the -D parameter to tunnel the connection, and then setup my browser to point its proxy settings to the tunnel. For some reason when I do something in my browser, the page doesn't load and my shell freezes. Once it stops trying to load the page my shell unfreezes. Does anyone know what could cause this?
[17:37] <reddeath68> basicly i updated to latest kernel I was running fine come home today and find my computer bugging out and my caps lock and scroll lock were flashing while my num lock was off, and i restarted the system only to barley load desktop then it switched itself to text console and said something about kernel panic
[17:37] <ikonia> Mike9863: possible a name server look up?
[17:38] <ikonia> reddeath68: what kernel did you update to ?
[17:38] <wilee-nilee> reddeath68, Latest kernel from the repos?
[17:38] <Mike9863> ikonia: On my end or the server?
[17:38] <reddeath68> yes via system update it installed
[17:39] <ikonia> Mike9863: a good question, I'm "guessing" the lookup is done on your client, then it sends that data down the tunnel - hence the delay
[17:39] <wilee-nilee> reddeath68, notice we use nicks here you can tab complete them.
[17:39] <reddeath68> believe it was 3.8.0.29-generic or something like that
[17:40] <ikonia> reddeath68: can you boot the old kernel, see if the problem is still there ?
[17:40] <wilee-nilee> reddeath68, try the previous kernel to compare.
[17:40] <smaudet> second question still stands, I know how to start pulseaudio, but I'm looking for who starts it ...
[17:40] <reddeath68> i am in the previous kernel with no problems
[17:41] <ikonia> reddeath68: ok, so the key things are 1.) get the kernel panic message 2.) consider using kdump to get the kernel dump, if we cant see the problem from the messages, log a bug attaching the kdump
[17:41] <xteejx> Hi all
[17:42] <Mike9863> ikonia: I just tried going to 74.125.227.164 (google) in my browser using the tunnel as a proxy and it did end up loading, but only after a very long time. Other IPs I'm trying with aren't working.
[17:42] <reddeath68> ikonia, is kdump a command or what im still learning alot about linux and ubuntu itself also how would i retrieve the panic message
[17:42] <xteejx> I have a question but only minorly related to Ubuntu (I'm doing it IN Ubuntu)... I want to split an xml file (from a wikipedia dump) into smaller files by page, using the <page> tag as a document break of sorts. How would I do this in Ubuntu?
[17:43] <ikonia> reddeath68: it's a boot argument you pass to the kernel
[17:43] <Mike9863> xteejx: Write a script that will parse it
[17:43] <reddeath68> never messed with boot arguements before
[17:43] <ikonia> Mike9863: ok, so the lookup is out of the question
[17:44] <JamesK> Hello, I tried to install Ubuntu with Unetbootin, I created installation USB stick, when I plug it in and click on "Default" after selecting boot from USB drive, it is showing me "Kernel Image not found"
[17:44] <xteejx> Mike9863: That's where I'm stumped. I have very basic knowledge of pyhton and not much else... :(
[17:44] <Mike9863> xteejx: You should go to #python then
[17:45] <xteejx> fair enough, cheers...
[17:45] <JamesK> what to do now?
[17:46] <JamesK> can someone help me?
[17:46] <wilee-nilee> JamesK, check the sum of the iso and maybe try another usb loader
[17:47] <reddeath68> ikonia, how would I do the kdump boot arguement as I said I have never messed with boot arguements
[17:47] <wilee-nilee> !md5sum | JamesK
[17:47] <ikonia> reddeath68: well, lets look at it this way
[17:47] <ikonia> reddeath68: you have two options
[17:47] <ikonia> reddeath68: 1.) use the working kernel and just enjoy using your machine
[17:47] <ikonia> reddeath68: 2.) try to debug a kernel problem
[17:47] <[CaBeTuX]> hi guys!
[17:47] <ikonia> reddeath68: if you chose 2.) you're going to have to put in a fair bit of basic research yourself.
[17:48] <[CaBeTuX]> I have a problem with rsyslog
[17:48] <wilee-nilee> JamesK, Using unetbootin to download the iso can be problematic, if that was your approach
[17:48] <reddeath68> ikonia, I would like to debug only because the latest kernel seemed to fix a problem I was having with a removable piece of media I owned always mounting as a read only file system
[17:48] <wilee-nilee> !details > [CaBeTuX]
[17:48] <Richter> #kali-linux
[17:48] <[CaBeTuX]> I created a new .conf file in /etc/rsyslog.d/ but not work... the idea is send messages of catalina.out to tomcat at rsyslog remote server
[17:48] <ihre> JamesK: http://sourceforge.net/projects/win32diskimager/
[17:49] <JamesK> wilee-nilee: thanks for reply, I managed to install it on my compute, and it is installed, now I am wondering is the installation perfect? do I need to reinstall or just update?
[17:49] <wilee-nilee> Richter /j
[17:49] <ikonia> reddeath68: honestly......
[17:49] <wilee-nilee> JamesK, probably okay just run the updates
[17:49] <JamesK> wilee-nilee: I downloaded a ISO file.
[17:49] <reddeath68> ikonia, unless their is a way to fix the read only while using the old kernel which may be easier
[17:49] <ikonia> reddeath68: what was the problem device out of interest ?
[17:49] <wilee-nilee> JamesK, you could check the sum of the iso if it makes you feeel better.
[17:50] <reddeath68> ikonia, a sony walkman nwz-e365 mp3 player
[17:50] <ikonia> reddeath68: so in your current kernel (uname -a please) you can only mount it read only, but in the newer kernel you can mount it read/write , correct ?
[17:50] <reddeath68> ikonia, my old nwz-e344 worked fine however yet when new kernel came out the e365 suddenly started working
[17:51] <[CaBeTuX]> ok ubottu. Version: wheezy/sid Cloud Computing AMI Amazon. I try: send messages of tomcat "catalina.out" log via rsyslog at remote syslog server. Not have output
[17:51] <ikonia> reddeath68: got it with you now ?
[17:51] <wilee-nilee> [CaBeTuX], This ubuntu?
[17:51] <JamesK> wilee-nilee: what could be the cause of showing that "kernel image not found" when clicked "Default" ?
[17:51] <wilee-nilee> JamesK, Not sure.
[17:51] <reddeath68> ikonia, yes that is correct (uname -a: 3.8.0-27-generic) and yes its sitting right next to me
[17:52] <ikonia> reddeath68: lets have a look, I'm interested, can you please it in please and lets have a prod around at it
[17:52] <ikonia> reddeath68: not often you get something interesting, so if you have time, lets have a quick look
[17:52] <TheSpirit> hellome, I have a Nexus 7 (2nd Generation). What is the status of Ubuntu Touch? Will normal Ubuntu work on it? Is it worth it to remove Android?
[17:52] <JamesK> ihre: is not that a win software?
[17:52] <wilee-nilee> JamesK, IF it is installed if it were me I would not worry about that, things happen that finding an exact answer for can be difficult
[17:53] <Nach0z> um
[17:53] <Nach0z> ubuntu touch? o_0
[17:53] <wilee-nilee> !touch | TheSpirit
[17:53] <JamesK> wilee-nilee: yup I am connecting from it right now, just running the updates.
[17:53] <[CaBeTuX]> wilee-nilee, Is a Ubuntu 12.04.2 LTS
[17:54] <reddeath68> its plugged in
[17:54] <[CaBeTuX]> wheezy/sid show in /etc/debian_version
[17:54] <wilee-nilee> [CaBeTuX], how is this related "wheezy/sid " just trying to understand
[17:55] <wilee-nilee> it the sever
[17:55] <caf4926> If I want to setup remote internet (not just over the LAN) access to my files on a server, what is the simplest approach?
[17:55] <Nach0z> kinda sad that the ubuntu edge didn't hit its goal :/
[17:55] <wilee-nilee> server*
[17:55] <Nach0z> I think if funding had gone on a bit longer it would have
[17:55] <ikonia> reddeath68: ok, so, lets look at the first thing, can you put "sudo fdisk -l" in a pastebin please,
[17:55] <akshayPai> when will 13.04  stable version release?
[17:55] <[CaBeTuX]> wilee-nilee, infosec01:/etc/rsyslog.d$ cat /etc/debian_version
[17:55] <[CaBeTuX]> wheezy/sid
[17:55] <[CaBeTuX]> its simple
[17:55] <wilee-nilee> akshayPai, was already
[17:55] <reddeath68> seems to be functioning for now believe the orignal problem may have been a bad file system or something originally as I have compared the file system of the old one with the new one and the new one seemsed to bug out interface wise i did format it via the built in controls also had done ctrl + h  to see if there was maybe a hidden file causing any problems
[17:56] <ikonia> reddeath68: ahh, so it is working with the old kernel too
[17:56] <wilee-nilee> [CaBeTuX], That is debian
[17:56] <[CaBeTuX]> not... is a ubuntu 12.04.02 LTS
[17:56] <wilee-nilee> wheezy/sid is debian
[17:57] <reddeath68> ikonia, here you are http://pastebin.com/7f367LZA
[17:57] <[CaBeTuX]> wilee-nilee, lsb_release -a | grep Description
[17:57] <[CaBeTuX]> Description:    Ubuntu 12.04.2 LTS
[17:57] <ikonia> reddeath68: is it actually working ok now ?
[17:57] <ikonia> [CaBeTuX]: can you show me the output of uname -a please
[17:58] <uhelp> I am running 12.04.2 server -- how do I start up gnome?  startx doesn't work
[17:58] <[CaBeTuX]> ....
[17:58] <akshayPai> wilee-nilee,so 13.04 stable is already out?
[17:58] <wilee-nilee> akshayPai, 13.04 has been released for awhile, what is it you actually need.
[17:58] <reddeath68> ikonia, it appears to be perhaps it was a bad file system and just happened to coincide with the formatting of the player
[17:58] <[CaBeTuX]> inux infosec01 3.2.0-45-virtual #70-Ubuntu SMP Wed May 29 20:31:52 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[17:58] <[CaBeTuX]> ... IS ubuntu, guys
[17:58] <ikonia> [CaBeTuX]: ahh, this is a virtual machine, I wonder if it's a bastardised ubuntu build on a debian hypervisor
[17:58] <ezra-s> uhelp, startx won't work if you don't have xinit and some other X packages installed
[17:59] <[CaBeTuX]> Not because ubuntu leave that file there ... but ... is there!
[17:59] <ezra-s> uhelp, why do you want to use gnome on a server?
[17:59] <wilee-nilee> akshayPai, http://www.ossdoc.com/2013/04/ubuntu-1304-stable-released-and-ready.html  it is not a lt
[17:59] <uhelp> ezra-s: xinit is already the newest version.
[17:59] <ikonia> [CaBeTuX]: sorry, I don't understand your last comment
[17:59] <[CaBeTuX]> yes ikonia. Is a AMI Amazon Virtual Machine Cloud Computing
[17:59] <ezra-s> uhelp, then define "startx doesn't work"
[17:59] <ikonia> [CaBeTuX]: it's an amazon guest, wow, that seems odd
[18:00] <OerHeks> uhelp, ubuntu server has no gnome, only if you installed ubuntu-desktop, start with sudo start lightdm
[18:00] <reddeath68> perhaps someone could help me with one other thing I seem to be having 3 minor issues with my machine that are more of an annoyance then anything if someone would be interested in helping me
[18:00] <daftykins> just ask
[18:00] <akshayPai> wilee-nilee,i installed 13.04 but giving me a lot of system errors , tried 12.04 lts .. and it worked fine but still liked the new features of 13.04 and was wondering if i cld get a stable lt on that
[18:00] <ikonia> reddeath68: we'll try
[18:00] <Extreminador> how can i update my desktop enviroment ?
[18:00] <uhelp> ezra-s: I will try sudo start lightdm but don't I have to tell it which display to use or something?
[18:01] <reddeath68> First on boot i see a message about a module trying to register but it fails as it says it is already registerd
[18:01] <wilee-nilee> akshayPai, stable is an elusive term, you need to be specific in details with your problems for help.
[18:01] <uhelp> OerHeks: start: Unknown job: lightdm
[18:01] <stroodlepup> linux|newb, google chrome can't display youtube videos properly, having lots of yellow dots... familliar?
[18:01] <ezra-s> uhelp,no, you don't
[18:01] <OerHeks> uhelp, did you install any desktop package?
[18:01] <reddeath68> second my graphics seem to crash every once in a while and yes im using a nvidia card a geforce 9400 gt to be precise
[18:01] <uhelp> ezra-s: startx just give me a black screen
[18:02] <[CaBeTuX]> so... I need send "message X" of catalina.out to remete syslog server... using rsyslog. I created a new .conf in /etc/rsyslog.d/ but not are sent.
[18:02] <ezra-s> uhelp, have you checked /var/log/X...?
[18:02] <uhelp> OerHeks:   sudo apt-get install gnome gnome-desktop
[18:02] <reddeath68> and the third one is my ram seems to fill up after a while is there a way to clear it so my system stops trying to freeze?
[18:02] <uhelp> OerHeks: this should install gnome right?
[18:02] <ezra-s> gnome probably comes with gdm
[18:03] <OerHeks> uhelp oh gnome-desktop, i have no experience with that one. ubuntu-desktop is different
[18:03] <reddeath68> any help on any of these three minor annoyances would be welcomed
[18:03] <[CaBeTuX]> and not have output for see... can't debugging the problem!
[18:03] <ezra-s> OerHeks, try "apt-cache search package" first to see if its avaibale
[18:03] <ezra-s> sorry, I mean, uhelp!
[18:03] <wilee-nilee> uhelp, What desktop do you want?
[18:03] <[CaBeTuX]> Why is odd? ikonia
[18:03] <wilee-nilee> gnome 2 is gone
[18:03] <shadej> hello
[18:04] <shadej> I want to contribute to ubuntu localization
[18:04] <shadej> am using launchpad.net
[18:04] <shadej> but dont know how to start ( i can see any starting point on the website)
[18:05] <k1l> shadej: see if your loco team got a irc channel and ask them where they need help
[18:05] <uhelp> ezra-s: apt-cache search gnome | wc -l give me 1441 packages
[18:05] <uhelp> wilee-nilee: I want the same desktop I had in 8.04 without all the fancy things that slow down usage
[18:05] <wilee-nilee> uhelp, That desktop is no more the closest is the fallback
[18:06] <reddeath68> so noone has any clues as to how to fix my three minor annoyances?
[18:06] <andres-kun> O..o
[18:06] <wilee-nilee> uhelp, there are other like xubuntu, lubuntu, and about 50 others
[18:06] <daftykins> reddeath68: re: RAM - www.linuxatemyram.com
[18:06] <uhelp> wilee-nilee: what package should I install?
[18:06] <wilee-nilee> uhelp, For?
[18:07] <daftykins> reddeath68: the module thing doesn't sound critical - and the nvidia card thing, try another driver version
[18:07] <wolffff> uhelp, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-gnome-desktop ubuntu-gnome-default-settings
[18:07] <wilee-nilee> uhelp, most would not add a desktop to a server.
[18:07] <uhelp> wilee-nilee: for the ability of the system to boot into xwindows and give me a desktop without transitional effects and where alt-tab shows me the next item by english name instead of a lot of identical pictures and where there isn't a giant bar on the left using all my screen up
[18:07] <reddeath68> daftykins, ok I will try the different drivers any suggested versions?
[18:08] <AleXa> Guys, what shall I start to learn: Python or C? Which of these are the most used on Ubuntu?
[18:08] <uhelp> wolffff: E: Unable to locate package ubuntu-gnome-desktop E: Unable to locate package ubuntu-gnome-default-settings
[18:08] <reddeath68> ikonia, its not that it appears missing its that it dramatically slows after certain programs are used for a prolonged time then closed and reopened later in the day
[18:08] <wilee-nilee> uhelp, find a supported desktop you like and install it, is all I can really say
[18:08] <ozzloy> AleXa, python
[18:09] <wilee-nilee> uhelp, If you find one and still need help ask us.
[18:09] <uhelp> wilee-nilee: Is gnome-desktop not supported?
[18:09] <uhelp> wilee-nilee: where do I find out which ones are?
[18:10] <wilee-nilee> uhelp, I'm not sure what the gnome-desktop is to be honest sounds like gnome 2
[18:10] <daftykins> reddeath68: anything other than what you're running now :)
[18:10] <ikonia> reddeath68: ok, so here is my tip, open a terminal, type "top" into it - and just leave it running, when you think your machine is out of memory, look at the top 5 processes listed, write them down and report back
[18:10] <moondog> uhelp: I ran into a command string that will uninstall unity entirely and install gnome3
[18:10] <ozzloy> AleXa, i assume since you're asking that, you're not going to be doing hardware level stuff, and you instead will be doing more "software"y stuff
[18:10] <moondog> google is your friend
[18:11] <wilee-nilee> uhelp, The gnome desktop now released is called the gnome-shell in ubuntu but t has more than you describes wanting.
[18:11] <HisaoNakai> !google
[18:11] <reddeath68> ikonia, will do I can tell you the main things that i use and seem to experience this slowdown with are firefox(especially when using youtube) and minecraft
[18:11] <moondog> uhelp: if you want the url I can get it
[18:11] <ozzloy> AleXa, there's probably more c code than python in the whole system, but the code likely to be encountered by someone asking "which is used more: c or python?" is python
[18:11] <wolffff> uhelp,  sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[18:11] <uhelp> wilee-nilee: I am not feature-adverse as long as it doesn't make using the system painfully slower or use up all my screen with toolbars
[18:11] <[CaBeTuX]> bye people... I get tired of waiting, after being questioned!
[18:12] <uhelp> moondog: thank you
[18:12] <ikonia> reddeath68: minecraft, java = risk
[18:12] <uhelp> wolffff: I will try that now
[18:12] <wilee-nilee> uhelp, For a light setup lxde would probably serve you the lubuntu base
[18:12] <wolffff> should work
[18:12] <reddeath68> ikonia, in terms of sucurity or in terms of linux itself?
[18:13] <AleXa> ozzloy, thanks, man!
[18:13] <ikonia> reddeath68: just as an application
[18:13] <snufft> hey guys
[18:13] <csd> hi, I was wondering if anyone knows how to get xchat to provide a persistent notification when I get an irc private message. I've turned all of the alerts on in xchat but that hasn't helped. I get a temporary balloon o a new message but if I miss it nothing remains. What I'm looking for is for the envelope on the top-right to go blue (like pidgin and thunderbird do) or the icon on the left to have some notification (like thunderbird)
[18:13] <wilee-nilee> uhelp, YOU might just research desktops by downloading ISO's and booting them to see what you like.
[18:13] <ozzloy> is there a utility that tells me what kind of ram i should get for my laptop?  i used dmidecode to see what's in there, but i don't know what the mobo can support.  how do i see that?
[18:14] <reddeath68> ikonia, why risk does linux not play well with java or is there more because if i remember my java course correctly it is hard to make java interface directly with a machine as it runs based on a virtual machine
[18:14] <snufft> has anyone had problems with autocomplete_widget not working for anon?
[18:14] <snufft> autocomplete_widget?
[18:14] <snufft> autocomplete_widgets?
[18:14] <ChogyDan> ozzloy: I think newegg.com has one, and corsair.com
[18:14] <micaelbergeron> ozzloy, normally your laptop model will tell you it'S chipset, from which you can find RAM specs.
[18:14] <ozzloy> ChogyDan, oh that'd be cool too
[18:14] <uhelp> wilee-nilee: I need to install a gui on ubuntu server since it is my understanding that only ubuntu server has support for 5 years for the base os?  Anything else I will need to upgrade in 2 years?  Am I missing something here?
[18:14] <wilee-nilee> csd, You will see the nick in the channel panel.
[18:15] <ozzloy> i know the current chip is a single 8G 1333Mhz DDR3
[18:15] <Orioa> does anyone know what the command is to add nitrogen restore to the start up applications
[18:15] <snufft> autocomplete_widgets?
[18:15] <Extreminador> how can i disable the mouse-pad when a mouse exist turned on ?
[18:15] <ozzloy> but idk what the mobo supports for max mhz.  i know it supports a total of 16GB
[18:15] <csd> wilee-nilee, I use multiple desktops so I don't see the xchat window normally. Which is why I'm looking for something that will be visible from any desktop
[18:15] <micaelbergeron> ozzloy, well you are better of getting the same speed
[18:16] <ChogyDan> ozzloy: yeah, if you are adding a module, I suggest getting exactly the same as what you got
[18:16] <ozzloy> micaelbergeron, indeed, but i might just get 2 new sticks
[18:16] <micaelbergeron> ozzloy, i guess that it 'would' take also 1600mhz
[18:16] <wilee-nilee> uhelp, 12.04 has 5years, I believe with lubuntu the de is 3 years, the gnome panel is the fallback it has 5 years and is closest to the gnome 2 setup.
[18:16] <ozzloy> depending on how expensive that is
[18:17] <micaelbergeron> ozzloy, if you bought it with a single 8GB, that is pretty high-end, so my guess is 1600mhz
[18:17] <ozzloy> ChogyDan, micaelbergeron thanks!
[18:17] <ozzloy> for your time
[18:17] <uhelp> wilee-nilee: if I already have ubuntu server installed can I simply install gnome-panel package and be done?
[18:17] <micaelbergeron> ozzloy, 16 GB in 2 sticks @ 1600 will put you down maybe 120$
[18:17] <micaelbergeron> ozzloy, for good quality ram
[18:18] <wilee-nilee> uhelp, NOt sure I install the gnome-shell that is gnome 3 and the fallback is included, but this is 13.04
[18:18] <ozzloy> how about 1 8GB 1333MHz?
[18:18]  * ozzloy should just google it at this point
[18:18] <wilee-nilee> uhelp, http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/03/gnome-classic-in-ubuntu-12-04-its-like-nothing-ever-changed
[18:18] <ozzloy> but i'd still like to know for sure whether my board can take 1600
[18:19] <micaelbergeron> ozzloy, can you tell me your laptop model
[18:19] <ozzloy> thinkpad x1, but not the carbon one, i'll see if i can find a product page
[18:19] <uhelp> thank you for the link .... I am going to go away and come back in a few with results (hopefully or lack thereof)
[18:20] <yannick_gagnon> How can I configure ubuntu server to only upgrade to LTS versions from command line?
[18:20] <wilee-nilee> uhelp, more info. http://askubuntu.com/questions/113989/is-gnome-session-fallback-viable-long-term-solution-in-12-04
[18:20] <wilee-nilee> uhelp, good luck. ;)
[18:21] <Orioa> does anyone know what the command is to add nitrogen restore to the start up applications
[18:22] <Hypnotix> evening, i have a big problem, i cannot reinstall ubuntu
[18:22] <micaelbergeron> from what I see here, you'd be capped @ 8GB 1333, with th Q67 Express chipet.
[18:22] <Hypnotix> i think it may be my harddrive but im not sure
[18:22] <micaelbergeron> Hyperbyte, have you checked the SMART status?
[18:23] <daftykins> Hypnotix: what seems to happen?
[18:23] <Hypnotix> i check with the disk utility and all is assesed as OK
[18:23] <daftykins> no reallocated sectors?
[18:23] <ozzloy> thinkpad x1 type 1286 model CTO
[18:23] <Hypnotix> i have no more data on this harddriver its clean
[18:23] <shashankg> I installed ubuntu 13.04, I can't change my screen brightness using brightness keys or brightness and lock, As written in an answer on ask ubuntu I also made this change.http://pastebin.com/z5xWu7at
[18:23] <Hypnotix> it says 0
[18:23] <daftykins> Hypnotix: so what's happening when you go to install?
[18:24] <ozzloy> micaelbergeron, thinkpad x1 type 1286 model CTO.  and lenovo's site isn't loading the manual page for me
[18:24] <Hypnotix> ill try again and let you know where it hangs
[18:24] <setuid> I need to test some code against the latest upstream kernel.org kernel. How can I take the parameters that were used to build the default Ubuntu kernel, and rebuild an upstream kernel with exactly the same config?
[18:25] <wilee-nilee> shashankg, Did you update-grub?
[18:25] <MonkeyDust> setuid  there's also #ubuntu-kernel
[18:25] <Hypnotix> daftykins: it hangs after i select download updates while installing, install third party etc
[18:25] <daftykins> Hypnotix: could be worth using the live mode to delete the entire disk setup first off, to have a clean slate?
[18:25] <micaelbergeron> ozzloy, you are indeed capped at 8GB unfortunatly.
[18:25] <daftykins> Hypnotix: disable those then. install without and update later
[18:25] <wilee-nilee> shashankg, Did you update-grub? and reboot
[18:26] <shashankg> wilee-nilee: How can I update grub?
[18:26] <ozzloy> micaelbergeron, that's not what dmidecode says
[18:26] <trism> setuid: we have builds already: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/MainlineBuilds
[18:26] <wilee-nilee> shashankg, sudo update-grub then rebbot any mods there need a update
[18:26] <Hypnotix> daftykins: i have booted from the usb right now
[18:26] <ozzloy> micaelbergeron, could dmidecode be wrong?
[18:26] <wilee-nilee> reboot*
[18:27] <Hypnotix> and its not the downloading that causes the hanging it just doesnt read my hdd i guess
[18:27] <setuid> trism, looking
[18:27] <daftykins> Hypnotix: use disk utility to nuke the disk then
[18:27] <daftykins> Hypnotix: are you choosing manual partitioning or telling it to just do whatever it wants?
[18:27] <Hypnotix> daftykins:  i dont even get to that screen
[18:28] <micaelbergeron> ozzloy, I have no idead with dmidecode would be wrong, but you only have 1 SODIMM so you can't add any more RAM.
[18:28] <Hypnotix> so i chose erase disk quicly and no partitioning ?
[18:28] <Guest80307> nour
[18:29] <Guest80307> marcel kaledfk
[18:29] <Guest80307> dfkd
[18:29] <shivani> Hi my sudo apt-get install isnt working and neither is sh :\
[18:29] <shivani> *ssh
[18:29] <wilee-nilee> !ot | Guest80307
[18:29] <daftykins> Hypnotix: perhaps run a "dmesg | pastebinit" to see if there are any errors streaming?
[18:29] <wilee-nilee> Guest80307speak english
[18:29] <Hypnotix> daftykins:  i get this error when i try to format Error synchronizing after initial wipe: Timed out waiting for object (udisks-error-quark, 0
[18:29] <shivani> need some help here -> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6018805/
[18:30] <setuid> trism, No way to wget the directory, and no sources.list entry
[18:30] <setuid> bleh
[18:30] <shivani> ^ that is the output I get when I run "sudo apt-get update"
[18:30] <setuid> Manually downloading from browser -> ssh -> wget is a pain in the arse
[18:30] <daftykins> Hypnotix: hmm, perhaps your ISO download wasn't perfect, making your flash drive wasn't quite right or your system isn't stable? sounds very odd
[18:30] <shivani> I have set the proxy too
[18:30] <shivani> could someone suggest a fix /?
[18:31] <linux|newbB> shivani: DNS?
[18:31] <Hypnotix> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6018808/
[18:31] <ozzloy> micaelbergeron, oh dang.  i didn't even think about how many slots there were.  just assumed 2
[18:31] <shivani> linux|newbB : what about it ?
[18:31] <linux|newbB> shivani: set DNS to 8.8.8.8 and test again
[18:31] <uhelp> wilee-nilee et all: I am back   Is ubuntu-desktop supported?
[18:31]  * ozzloy wonders if there are 16GB sticks
[18:32] <uhelp> I installed ubuntu-desktop and when I reboot I get a black screen
[18:32] <MonkeyDust> uhelp  this is the ubuntu support channel
[18:32] <wilee-nilee> uhelp, you mean unity that is the ubuntu-desktop
[18:32] <uhelp> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop = unity = supported??
[18:32] <shivani> linux|newbB: Do you mean edit /etc/resolv.conf by hand?
[18:32] <linux|newbB> shivani: yep - just to tes
[18:32] <linux|newbB> ^t
[18:33] <Hypnotix> daftykins: what do you make of those errors in the pastebin
[18:33] <uhelp> when I reboot I get a blank screen  sudo apt-get stop lightdm ; sudo apt-get start lighdm (and same with gdm) doesn't fix problem
[18:33] <wilee-nilee> uhelp, Yes but didn't you install the gnome-desktop as well, are you using the choice at login?
[18:33] <linux|newbB> uhelp: had a lightdm issue earlier
[18:33] <uhelp> wilee-nilee: there is no login screen (but yes, I did install gnome-desktop previously and didn't remove it)
[18:34] <uhelp> linux|newbB: I also tried gdm
[18:34] <shivani> linux|newbB:  edited -> nameserver 8.8.8.8
[18:34] <linux|newbB> uhelp: see 'what to do if things go wrong: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LightDM
[18:34] <shivani> I get http://paste.ubuntu.com/6018820/
[18:34] <shivani> linux|newbB:  ^
[18:34] <wilee-nilee> uhelp, For me the picking at it to get a desktop makes it more than I have the patience for to help fix even if I could.
[18:35] <uhelp> i tried to install it again and it just gives me: ubuntu-desktop is already the newest version.
[18:35] <wilee-nilee> not sure I can anyway, lol. ;)
[18:35] <linux|newbB> shivani: hmm
[18:35] <shivani> linux|newbB:  any suggestions ?
[18:35] <shivani> p.s. it was working fine till about yesterday :(
[18:35] <linux|newbB> shivani: ping http://in.archive.ubuntu.com
[18:35]  * wilee-nilee is not a clean up helper
[18:35] <micaelbergeron> ozzloy, found 3 spec sheets, all saying 8GB max, I don't think a 16GB stick would do any better (and they aren't cheap these days)
[18:36] <daftykins> Hypnotix: i sense possibly a bad cable. can you screenshot your SMART status details just to confirm?
[18:36] <shivani> linux|newbB:  shivani@shivani:~$  ping http://in.archive.ubuntu.com
[18:36] <shivani> ping: unknown host http://in.archive.ubuntu.com
[18:36] <linux|newbB> likewise
[18:36] <ozzloy> micaelbergeron, thanks!
[18:36] <ozzloy> micaelbergeron, thanks for your time
[18:36] <shivani> linux|newbB:  sorry ?
[18:36] <ozzloy> i guess i'll stick with 8 :/
[18:36] <micaelbergeron> ozzloy, you are welcome
[18:37] <linux|newbB> ooo, my bad. error expected
[18:37] <linux|newbB> you can browse to it?
[18:38] <shivani> linux|newbB:  let me try
[18:38] <shivani> linux|newbB:  yes , can browse to it
[18:38] <linux|newbB> shivani: http://askubuntu.com/questions/310131/something-wicked-happened-error-in-apt-get
[18:39] <linux|newbB> shivani: sudo apt-get update --fix-missing
[18:39] <shivani> linux|newbB:  whats the lock file ?
[18:39] <daftykins> Hypnotix: they look like LVM errors
[18:39] <Hypnotix> daftykins: i dont really know what that means :)
[18:39] <shivani> I have a feeling its somthing to do with screwed ssh ports
[18:40] <uhelp> [+0.55s] MESSAGE: Couldn't find primary device <-- this is in lightdm greeter log
[18:40] <daftykins> Hypnotix: a type of partitioning/disk setup.
[18:41] <Hypnotix> i see
[18:41] <Hypnotix> so what do you suggest i should do
[18:41] <linux|newbB> shivani: sudo apt-get update --fix-missing didn't work?
[18:41] <daftykins> Hypnotix: try running gparted and delete every partition on the disk
[18:41] <shivani> nope :\
[18:41] <shivani> linux|newbB: ^
[18:41] <linux|newbB> screwed SSH ports, why, what you been doing?
[18:41] <shivani> linux|newbB: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6018839/
[18:42] <ericjung> after I press Ctrl+Alt+F1, how can I restore the desktop?
[18:42] <shivani> linux|newbB:  well we have been trying to create VMs over LAN , after which ssh stopped working , and I removed it to reinstall the ssh servers
[18:42] <shivani> and then apt-get failed too
[18:42] <ws2k3> hello i'm trying to setup zfs replication between boxes the replication itself works fine only i'm unable to find the data that should be replicated
[18:42] <shivani> so I cant even reinstall ssh
[18:42] <shivani> :\
[18:42] <shivani> linux|newbB:  ^^
[18:42] <linux|newbB> shivani: yer, line 7 holds solid with your theory
[18:42] <shashankg> wilee-nilee: I updated grub. now the brightness keys are working in weird manner. It's not working properly
[18:43] <daftykins> Hypnotix: hang on i'm being really stupid, do you have more than one hard disk?
[18:43] <Hypnotix> daftykins:  no
[18:43] <shivani> linux|newbB:  I am sorry which line 7 are you refering to?
[18:43] <ikonia> ws2k3: this channel is for ubuntu support - not freebsd support,
[18:43] <daftykins> Hypnotix: if you run "sudo fdisk -l" what are sda and sdb?
[18:43] <linux|newbB> shivani: Cannot initiate the connection to extras.ubuntu.com:80 (fe80::a2b3:ccff:fee0:d988). - connect (22: Invalid argument) [IP: fe80::a2b3:ccff:fee0:d988 80]
[18:44] <shivani> linux|newbB:  so could you tell me some fix for it ?
[18:44] <Hypnotix> daftykins:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/6018843/
[18:44] <Hypnotix> daftykins:  gparted just keeps scanning for partitions for the last 5mins
[18:44] <ericjung> after I press Ctrl+Alt+F1, how can I  exit the console return to the desktop?
[18:45] <ericjung> "Exit" just logs me out
[18:45] <ericjung> keeps me in the console
[18:45] <Myrtti> ctrl-alt-f7
[18:45] <daftykins> Hypnotix: ok yep sdb is definitely your 500GB hard disk. what is on there already? an older ubuntu?
[18:45] <ericjung> Myrtti: yay! thanks
[18:45] <Hypnotix> daftykins: its empty right now
[18:46] <linux|newbB> shivani: ein moment
[18:46] <daftykins> Hypnotix: it still shows three partitions though
[18:46] <shivani> linux|newbB: oka ..
[18:46] <uhelp> Myrtti: ctrl-alt-f7 gives me a list of processes which started when the machine booted
[18:46] <Hypnotix> daftykins: http://pastebin.com/tEhMDkfi
[18:47] <daftykins> Hypnotix: that's the same paste as before?
[18:47] <uhelp> Myrtti: service gdm start or service lightdm start or startx would all seem to fix the problem according to instructions I read or followed or advice but none of them do
[18:47] <linux|newbB> uhelp: http://pkgs.org/ubuntu-10.04/ubuntu-main-i386/openssh-client_5.3p1-3ubuntu3_i386.deb.html
[18:47] <linux|newbB> dpkg it
[18:47] <Hypnotix> daftykins: ah i think so sry
[18:47] <linux|newbB> linux|newbB: http://pkgs.org/ubuntu-10.04/ubuntu-main-i386/openssh-client_5.3p1-3ubuntu3_i386.deb.html
[18:48] <linux|newbB> uhelp: ignore me :)
[18:48] <daftykins> Hypnotix: is it a desktop PC?
[18:48] <Hypnotix> daftykins: yes
[18:48] <uhelp> linux|newbB: I can ssh into the box just fine
[18:48] <uhelp> linux|newbB: i see, you intended that for someone else
[18:48] <daftykins> Hypnotix: are you comfortable with hardware? i would try another SATA cable / SATA port on the motherboard with the disk
[18:48] <Hypnotix> daftykins: gparted shows an LVM flag on my biggest partition
[18:48] <linux|newbB> uhelp: yep
[18:49] <Hypnotix> daftykins: i can switch the cable sure
[18:49] <linux|newbB> shivani: I've made assumptions about your architecture, amend as neccesary
[18:49] <shivani> linux|newbB: shoot
[18:49] <figgycity50> hi
[18:49] <daftykins> Hypnotix: sounds good - then keep trying the livecd + running gparted, and deleting the partitions
[18:49] <linux|newbB> shivani: huh?
[18:49] <Hypnotix> daftykins: ok thanx brb
[18:49] <shivani> linux|newbB: I mean tell me about them
[18:49] <linux|newbB> only you know :P
[18:49] <figgycity50> how do i install xfce on ubuntu????????
[18:50] <ericjung> lduros: hi
[18:50] <linux|newbB> 64 or 32
[18:51] <uhelp> I pasted my greater log here in case someone has some ideas: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6018862/
[18:51] <figgycity50> fkldsjjd;sldfas;ldcdls;adfjs;lajf;aslfdkj;lsdjf;dlsf;ldsjf;dlafjldas;kjfldsa;jfsld;ajkf;sldajkf;djfs;sdjkf;;;;;;;l;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;djadsjksadlfkhdfshkldkfsajhlkdsakdflsakdldksjalksdfjhlakdsfhfdhlksalsdjkfhhldsakhdsflsdalhdflsdlhdlsdkhjdflhdslkhas
[18:51] <figgycity50> h
[18:51] <DJones> figgycity50: Don't do that
[18:51] <shivani> linux|newbB: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6018865/
[18:51] <shivani> Hope this is good for the system info :)
[18:51] <ChogyDan> figgycity50: try install xubuntu
[18:51] <uhelp> figgycity50: probably you don't know but you are just suppose to post your question ... only people in the Southern USA say hello anymore
[18:52] <figgycity50> HI
[18:52] <figgycity50>  
[18:52] <figgycity50>  
[18:52] <figgycity50>  
[18:52] <FloodBot1> figgycity50: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:52] <linux|newbB> shivani: how old is that box?
[18:53] <shashankg> My screen brightness is not working. I modified the /etc/default/grub file.  I changed the prev line to this line . GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="quiet splash acpi_backlight=vendor". and updated grub+rebooted. It is still not working
[18:53] <shivani> linux|newbB:  this os is like 3 months old .. and hardware is 2 years
[18:54] <linux|newbB> shivani: I have a skype I need to attend. just openssh client for your architecture and ubuntu release 10.04 should be good >>
[18:54] <linux|newbB> download*
[18:54] <linux|newbB> and dpkg it
[18:54] <linux|newbB> try again
[18:54] <linux|newbB> adios
[18:54] <shivani> okay thanks for your time
[18:55] <shivani> Okay I dont want to change my distro and still want sudo apt-get to work, is that an option ?
[18:55] <shivani> anyone who can help?
[18:56] <ezra-s> shihan, it is
[18:57] <shivani> ezra-s : could you please help ?
[18:57] <uhelp> here is lightdm log file for anyone who might have a clue http://paste.ubuntu.com/6018883/
[18:57] <ezra-s> shihan, I don't remember it perfectly, but I know where you must look into, check /etc/sudoers, "man sudoers"
[18:57] <ezra-s> Shivani
[18:58] <shashankg> My screen brightness is not working. I modified the /etc/default/grub file.  I changed the prev line to this line . GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="quiet splash acpi_backlight=vendor".  and updated grub+rebooted. It is still not working
[18:58] <dinu> shashank
[18:59] <trism> setuid: maybe a text browser? seems to work fine in elinks
[18:59] <shivani> ezra-s : I am sure the problem isnt with sudo but with apt-get
[18:59] <shivani> I cant even ping the ubuntu archives from my terminal
[18:59] <setuid> trism, I got it, now patching vmmem tools for VMware,
[18:59] <shivani> while I can browse them from firefix
[18:59] <shivani> *firefox
[18:59] <uhelp> this channel doesn't know how to get a gui working on ubuntu server --- is there another channel I might be able to find the answer in?
[19:00] <dinu> shivani are you usong a proxy server to connect  to internet
[19:00] <shivani> dinu : yes
[19:00] <ikonia> uhelp: what's the issue ?
[19:00] <shivani> I have my proxy variables set
[19:00] <GiantApple> uhelp: install ubuntu desktop if you want a gui
[19:00] <shivani> also have proxy configured in my bashrc
[19:00] <GiantApple> uhelp: why install ubuntu server if you want a gui
[19:00] <shivani> dinu ^^
[19:01] <dinu> ok shivani then just update your apt.conf file
[19:01] <uhelp> ikonia: service lightdm start doesn't up the gui ... I posted logs to http://paste.ubuntu.com/6018862/ and http://paste.ubuntu.com/6018883/
[19:01] <dinu> let me send you a apt.conf file
[19:01] <shivani> dinu : my /etc/apt/apt.config is empty right now
[19:01] <dinu> shivani: wait for a sec
[19:01] <shivani> how do i update it ?
[19:02] <uhelp> GiantApple: need 5 years of os upgrades not 2-3
[19:02] <ikonia> uhelp: what desktop enviornment do you want ?
[19:02] <dinu> wait shivani
[19:02] <shivani> oka
[19:02] <uhelp> ikonia: whatever would be most like 8.04 and actually work
[19:02] <ikonia> 8.04 is dead
[19:02] <ikonia> uhelp: it's EOL and the repos are archived
[19:03] <uhelp> ikonia: 8.04 is dead but I have 12.04.2 server LTS installed and want whatever gui is currently supported most like 8.04 gui
[19:03] <equus> http://www.ubuntugeek.com/install-gui-in-ubuntu-server.html   look at things like this uhelp
[19:03] <ikonia> uhelp: ok, so that's not going to happen, as unity is totally different
[19:03] <uhelp> ikonia: and currently I have NO GUI so any gui is better than none
[19:03] <ikonia> uhelp: 2 questions so I understand your situation better
[19:03] <ikonia> uhelp: 1.) why did you not install ubuntu desktop 12.04 if you wanted a desktop enviornment ?
[19:03] <shashankg> some one please help. My screen brightness is not working. I modified the /etc/default/grub file.  I changed the prev line to this line . GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="quiet splash acpi_backlight=vendor".  and updated grub+rebooted. It is still not working
[19:03] <ikonia> uhelp: 2.) why are you doing "startx" if you install a desktop it should be setup to autostart
[19:04] <shivani> Guys can anyone please help about my apt-get not working in ubuntu 13.04 ?
[19:04] <dinu> shivani:
[19:04] <dinu> shivani: wait and see
[19:04] <shivani> dinu : yes
[19:04] <dinu> shivani: Acquire::http::proxy "http://192.168.0.1:3129/";
[19:04] <dinu> Acquire::https::proxy "https://192.168.0.1:3129/";
[19:04] <dinu> Acquire::ftp::proxy "ftp://192.168.0.1:3129/";
[19:04] <dinu> Acquire::socks::proxy "socks://192.168.0.1:3129/";
[19:04] <uhelp> ikonia et all: I issued a sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop and it is working on the packages (before I had done sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop)
[19:04] <shivani> dinu : what does this do ?
[19:04] <uhelp> ikonia: I did startx because service start gdm and service start lightdm didn't work
[19:05] <dinu> just keep your proxy address and port in its place
[19:05] <ikonia> uhelp: why did you install ubuntu desktop after you had put xubuntu desktop already on it
[19:05] <uhelp> ikonia: I didn't install the desktop version because it isn't supported for 5 years like server
[19:05] <ikonia> uhelp: yes, but the desktop component on the server, will only be 3 years
[19:05] <shivani> dinu : are these to be put into my apt.conf ?
[19:05] <ikonia> uhelp: so you still only get 3 years really
[19:05] <dinu> shivani: this will make your terminal or bash to download updates and packages through it
[19:05] <uhelp> ikonia: after everything is running I will uninstall the desktop component but I cannot do the setup without it
[19:06] <ikonia> uhelp: putting the ubuntu desktop install on may just be easy/quck fix
[19:06] <dinu> shivani: yes but use your proxy settings as set in your browser
[19:06] <ikonia> uhelp: just install from the desktop CD - you'll find it easier than the situation you are currently in
[19:06] <uhelp> ikonia: I am mailing off this server to Panama City, Panama and I need it to work for 5 years if possible
[19:06] <shivani> dinu : these will make apt-get work without proxy ?
[19:06] <ChogyDan> uhelp: try adding a ^ onto the end of the ubuntu-desktop install command, ie ubuntu-desktop^
[19:06] <ikonia> uhelp: it will not stop working after 3 years
[19:06] <dinu> like  instead of 3129 use your port
[19:06] <ikonia> ChogyDan: why ?
[19:06] <dinu> shivani^^
[19:07] <ikonia> ChogyDan: what does the ^ do ?
[19:07] <uhelp> ikonia: if there is a security hole it won't be patched :(  could be a disaster
[19:07] <shivani> dinu and instead of the former address use my lan address ?
[19:07] <ikonia> uhelp: no, no no no no no no
[19:07] <ikonia> uhelp: I think you need to think a lot here
[19:07] <ChogyDan> ikonia: it does a tasksel install rather than a package
[19:07] <ikonia> uhelp: 1.) if you can't confiugre the server without a desktop - you are probably not the person to make it secure
[19:07] <uhelp> ikonia: I am listening
[19:08] <dinu> look for my pm shihan
[19:08] <uhelp> ikonia: you cannot configure the system without a desktop PERIOD.  There is no command-line admin program.  I suppose you could do remote xwindows without a desktop.
[19:08] <ikonia> uhelp: 2.) the "components" are not supported, eg: an ubuntu desktop install, will still get kenrel updates, libc updates etc etc as they are shared with the server install repos - it just won't get desktop component updates such as the desktop, or say firefox
[19:08] <ikonia> uhelp: you'll find it much much simpler, install ubuntu 12.04 lts desktop - configure your applications, then shutdown/disable X11
[19:09] <ezra-s> uhelp, you are probably the first one I see that uses desktop to configure a server
[19:09] <ikonia> ezra-s: some applications require a gui to install
[19:09] <shashankg> My screen brightness is not working. I modified the /etc/default/grub file.  I changed the prev line to this line . GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="quiet splash acpi_backlight=vendor".  and updated grub+rebooted. It is still not working
[19:10] <smaudet> ikonia: that's not entirely true, firefox still gets updates
[19:10] <ezra-s> ikonia, ssh x forwarding does fine
[19:10] <ikonia> ezra-s: it depends on your situation, using a local desktop can be easier
[19:10] <croki> hi
[19:10] <smaudet> ikonia: at least, I do. But I may have configured it specially?
[19:10] <smaudet> I run ff 23 anyways
[19:10] <ezra-s> ikonia, that does not apply on a server in a production environment
[19:10] <ikonia> smaudet: what do you mean you do - it's not EOL
[19:10] <ikonia> ezra-s: yeah, it does
[19:10] <uhelp> ezra-s: lots of programs no longer allow their configuration via a gui --- or it is damn-near-impossible to do so   (try to use eclipse without the gui to get a project to the point where you can build it from the command line)
[19:10] <ezra-s> ikonia, if you mean your house computer, it does yes
[19:11] <ikonia> ezra-s: no, I mean enterprise setups
[19:11] <ezra-s> eclipse is not something to use in a SERVER
[19:11] <smaudet> ikonia: 'it just won't get desktop component updates such as the desktop, or say firefox'
[19:11] <ikonia> ezra-s: who said eclipse ?
[19:11] <ikonia> smaudet: yes, when it's EOL
[19:11] <ikonia> smaudet: it's not EOL, so still gets update
[19:11] <smaudet> ikonia: sure, does 12.04 come default configured with EOL?
[19:11]  * ezra-s reading up, perhaps Im imagining things
[19:12] <ikonia> smaudet: what are you talking about "EOL"
[19:12] <lhx> yuck... forget eclipse... learn vim or emacs... it's worth the investment
[19:12] <ikonia> smaudet: Eol = End Of Life support
[19:12] <ikonia> smaudet: it's not an application
[19:12] <ezra-s> ikonia, you're right, it was uhelp mumble
[19:12] <ezra-s> I apologize
[19:12] <ikonia> ezra-s: no need,
[19:12] <smaudet> ikonia: nvm, I thought you meant Extended Release, didn't think the acronym through :)
[19:13] <uhelp> ezra-s: lots of people need to do a nightly build and use eclipse to automate the process since they use it on the desktop to create the application
[19:13] <iampoz> hi guys, has there been a large number of people coming in here talking about nvidia problems in the last 2 weeks?
[19:13] <uhelp>  ezra-s: the nightly build is on the server with a cron job
[19:13] <iampoz> seems like the next update messes up my computer
[19:13] <smaudet> ikonia: I probably jumped in without all the facts of the convo, but it sounded like you were saying firefox on 12.04.2 doesn't get firefox upgrades
[19:13] <uhelp> ezra-s: but you can't easily get to the point of the nightly build without using the gui to configure the project
[19:13] <smaudet> Firefox is not EOL, for sure.
[19:13] <mojtaba> wilee-nilee: Hi, could you please let me know to where can I upload the picture of the Gparted?
[19:13] <ezra-s> what I meant, most enterprise software that needs a gui, does so for installation (oracle software anyone?), and for that ssh x forwarding is what most do.. because you want to limit the amount of packages susceptible of security issues in a production environment
[19:14] <ezra-s> uhelp, ssh x forwarding
[19:14] <ezra-s> monitoring software may need a gui for usage, but still you can run that from a desktop and connect to necessary servers
[19:14] <ikonia> uhelp: seriously, quick fix, install from the desktop cd, configure your applicaiton, disable X - job done
[19:14] <ikonia> uhelp: make it easy and clean on yourself
[19:15] <ezra-s> where I work If I ask for X to be installed anywhere they will probably cut me in two
[19:15] <smaudet> ikonia: I am not getting other upgrades I noticed like pulseaudio, which is version 1.1 when the latest version is 4.0, but that's not firefox. I'm seriously thinking about upgrading, as it may be one contributing factor to some flash issues I'm having atm.
[19:15] <lhx> ezra-s: all the more reason to use vim or emacs in a terminal window(s)
[19:15] <ikonia> smaudet: what are you talking about ????
[19:15] <lhx> ezra-s: what language are you coding?
[19:15] <iampoz> this is what happends if i update my computer: it does not start unity and if i type in sudo lightdm, i get this "* Starting load fallback graphics devices        [fail]"
[19:15] <ikonia> smaudet: I said you don't get updates when your release is EOL - youre release is not EOL, so why are you telling me you're getting/not-getting updates
[19:15] <uhelp> all: I will go away again and come back ... arg!
[19:15] <ezra-s> lhx, I am no coder, I mainly do administration tasks
[19:16] <shashankg> Is this the right place to ask for help for my screen brightness issue. I can't change my screen brightness in ubuntu 13.04.
[19:16] <ikonia> uhelp: no need for htat
[19:16] <uhelp> (but thank you)
[19:16] <ikonia> uhelp: is there a problem with my suggestion ?
[19:16] <ikonia> uhelp: if so we can worth it through
[19:16] <ezra-s> lhx, bash, a bit of python is all I do, all to help me with those admin tasks
[19:16] <iampoz> it just takes me to a command prompt asking for my log in and password...
[19:16] <smaudet> ikonia: what am I talking about? http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=pulseaudio precise (12.04.2) only has pulseaudio 1.1
[19:17] <smaudet> saucy has 4.0
[19:17] <mojtaba> wilee-nilee: I want to expand my /home partition, but I ran out of primary partitions. Do you know what should I do? http://picpaste.com/Screenshot_from_2013-08-23_15_07_58-h60MKA12.png
[19:17] <ikonia> smaudet: you won't get offered those updats, they are a different release
[19:17] <nl287> shashankg: have try keys to changing brightness?
[19:17] <iampoz> mojtaba, cant you just use logical partitions?
[19:17] <smaudet> ikonia: I know, but several times now I've been presented with some dialog letting me know there are latency problems in PA, which suggests to upgrade to version >= 3.0
[19:18] <ikonia> smaudet: so ? I'm missing the point here, what are you expecting to happen ?
[19:18] <mojtaba> iampoz: Could you please let me know how should I do that?
[19:18] <uhelp> ikonia: perhaps I could install the desktop version but I will never understand why there isn't set of package(s) that I cannot install onto the server, do my thing, then uninstall -- in the past with 8.04 server that worked perfectly (12.04 is a step backwards if you cannot do the same)
[19:18] <ikonia> uhelp: there is - but you have messed up your install
[19:18] <pepper_chico> what's a good book, online reference, anything, that's a good reference for commands like readelf, ldd, strace, env that help at diagnostics, process monitoring, dependencies and stuff?
[19:18] <smaudet> ikonia: which has usually occured when flash has frozen. Point? I was just saying I'm considering trying to upgrade it myself.
[19:18] <ikonia> uhelp: it's fixable, however, it will be quicker to just do my other suggesiton
[19:18] <ikonia> uhelp: so if there is a reason we can't do the quick suggestion, we can work through the problem
[19:19] <ikonia> smaudet: how are you going to upgrade it ???
[19:19] <iampoz> are you using gpart? - but really I am not the best person to do this kind of stuff since you could lose all your data if you do somthing wrong...
[19:19] <smaudet> ikonia: perhaps more conversational, so more appropriate for #ubuntu-offtopic, but...
[19:19] <ikonia> smaudet: you'd need to upgrade the howle OS to the development release.
[19:19] <mojtaba> iampoz: Because when I right click on the unallocated area, it just has new and properties options. and when I click new, it says you have four primary partition and you can not make any other partition.
[19:19] <smaudet> ikonia: manually
[19:19] <shashankg> nl287: thanks for the response. I tried using the keys fn+f3/f4. also tried using brightness and lock. none works
[19:19] <ikonia> smaudet: you can't do that
[19:19] <iampoz> oh i see
[19:19] <mojtaba> Yes, I am using Gparted
[19:19] <nl287> pepper_chico: for example arch linux and gentoo wiki
[19:20] <mojtaba> Does anybody know what should I do?
[19:20] <mojtaba> I am new to linux by the way.
[19:20] <iampoz> mojtaba: humm, not sure then... sorry
[19:20] <mojtaba> iampoz: no problem.
[19:21] <nl287> shashankg: it's strange brightness keys working very wall for me
[19:21] <mojtaba> Anybody else?
[19:21] <mojtaba> http://picpaste.com/Screenshot_from_2013-08-23_15_07_58-h60MKA12.png
[19:21] <geri> hi whats the difference between tap interface and a tun interface?
[19:21] <iampoz> so I know nvidia is a sensative subject here, but has anyone else reported problems with the lastest update?
[19:21] <add1ct3dd> hi there - is there anywhere known to get support specifically to do with bind9 not working properly on ispconfig? im a newbie.
[19:21] <add1ct3dd> i am of course on ubuntu
[19:22] <shashankg> nl287: I also tried http://askubuntu.com/questions/128463/how-to-control-brightness the top answer mentioned here. it didn't help.
[19:22] <atrus> mojtaba: what partition in there is your home dir, that you want to expand?
[19:22] <OerHeks> mojtaba, 4 primairy partitions max, true, so remove 1 partition, make an extended, and in that extended start over agin, making logical partitions
[19:22] <mojtaba> atrus: /dev/sda6
[19:22] <nl287> shashankg: i dont know maybe its gnome problem. I have kubuntu
[19:22] <JamesK> Hello, I have a Ubuntu 13.04 64-bit ISO that I downloaded about 2 months ago from www.ubuntu.com that is 823.1Mb of file size, but when I trying to download the same file from the same location, it is showing 785Mb, why is that? is the previous file I have is corrupted one? I have installed the 1st ISO in a computer and it is working fine BTW. what to do now?
[19:22] <iampoz> thanks Oerheks, that was a good answer, i think thats what I had to do awhile back when I was messing around with that stuff
[19:22] <mojtaba> OerHeks: I am not sure which one should I remove. :(
[19:23] <Guest47892> hi
[19:23] <atrus> mojtaba: ugh. yeah, you're in a rough spot. you may need to back up everything elsewhere, repartition dramatically, and then restore.
[19:23] <shashankg> ok, thanks anyways .
[19:23] <julian-delphiki> JamesK: what 13.04 version? :)
[19:23] <Guest47892> was wondering if someone can help a noob out... i have 10.04 with linuxcnc. it has been working fine for a while, then i couldnt access the folders through my network all off a sudden. i rebooted ubuntu, and then it appears i lost all privileges somehow. if i click on the applications dropdown menu, it shows nothing. If i click on the system tab, it only shows a few items like about gnome or whatever.
[19:23] <mojtaba> OerHeks: Could you please tell which ones are primary? (which one should I delete?)
[19:23] <iampoz> mojtaba, "Eeny, meeny, miny, moe"
[19:24] <iampoz> lol jk
[19:24] <mojtaba> iampoz: What is that?
[19:24] <lhx> ezra-s: then why do you need eclipse?
[19:24] <JamesK> julian-delphiki: dont't get what you mean.
[19:24] <smaudet> ikonia: again, that's not entirely true...unless by 'you can't' you mean the whole depedency tree upgrade (dependent packages) is synonymous with the full dist-upgrade - however I thought ubuntu was more than just an audio server, so forgive me if I have some doubts about that. Its certainly not something I'll find nicely packaged in ubuntu-packages.
[19:24] <julian-delphiki> JamesK: are both of them 13.04 desktop?
[19:24] <OerHeks> mojtaba, ilooking at your screenshot, remove ALL except sda1 and sda2, those are your windows partitions, and the unallocated space will be freed
[19:24] <iampoz> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eeny,_meeny,_miny,_moe
[19:25] <smaudet> ikonia: it is also certainly something I would approch with tepidity and reserve, it is quite difficult to do.
[19:25] <smaudet> s/approch/approach/
[19:25] <mojtaba> OerHeks: Then I will lost all of my data!!
[19:25] <ikonia> smaudet: pulse audio is so intergratted into the desktop you'll find the depenedency tree huge, andyou'll basically end up with a conflicting system - you may as well do it
[19:25] <iampoz> so I know nvidia is a sensative subject here, but has anyone else reported problems with the lastest update?
[19:25] <JamesK> julian-delphiki: yup, both of them are 13.04, downloaded in same process as described above.
[19:25] <ikonia> smaudet: tehnically you can do it - but common sense says you shouldn't,
[19:25] <evilrob> well crap... I suppose it's time to upgrade.  chrome won't run on my laptop anymore :(
[19:26] <julian-delphiki> JamesK: you can verify the checksum of the CD
[19:26] <OerHeks> mojtaba, back it up, this configuration looks like a mess
[19:26] <julian-delphiki> to be sure they're good.
[19:26] <JamesK> julian-delphiki: how to do so?
[19:26] <julian-delphiki> !verify | JamesK
[19:26] <mojtaba> OerHeks: I have also encrypted my computer, does that effect backing up and restoring?
[19:26] <smaudet> ikonia: what do you mean by 'desktop'? The DE?
[19:26] <iampoz> so I am assuming no nvidia problems aside from me?
[19:27] <ikonia> smaudet: yes
[19:27] <iampoz> I mean with the lastest update
[19:27] <shalini> When I do sudo gedit I get this warning IBUS-WARNING **: The owner of /home/shashank/.config/ibus/bus is not root!. what does it means?
[19:27] <smaudet> ikonia: then its not much of an issue: I'm not using Unity.
[19:27] <ikonia> smaudet: you are using a desktop though are you not ?
[19:27] <smaudet> ikonia: I am. KDE to be precise. Which I am using the latest KDE stuff
[19:27] <ikonia> smaudet: so kde is the desktop too
[19:28] <smaudet> 4.11
[19:28] <ikonia> pulse audio is still used by kde
[19:28] <mojtaba> OerHeks: Do you know what is /dev/sda3?
[19:28] <OerHeks> mojtaba, encryption can have effect, losing your keys, etc. and recovering an encrypted partition is hard, so a backup is wise.
[19:28] <mojtaba> OerHeks: Is it swap?
[19:28] <OerHeks> mojtaba, it is an unrecognized partition, i guess it is empty
[19:29] <smaudet> ikonia: sure, I know; the desktop environment however is divorced somewhat from the distro release
[19:29] <wilee-nilee> Guest47892, Are you running 10.04 as a server only?
[19:29] <mojtaba> OerHeks: How can I make sure? and if it is empty, is it counted a primary partition? Can I just delete this one?
[19:29] <smaudet> ikonia: what remains is to know the graph structure and manually plot the difference(s). Something, as I said, I would approach with great trepidation.
[19:29] <Guest47892> wilee-nilee:  no i dont think so
[19:29] <HypnotiX> wilee-nilee: can you help me out a bit m8, i get an error when i try to install ubuntu
[19:30] <Guest47892> wilee-nilee: it's a cnc mill
[19:30] <ikonia> smaudet: yes, but as the desktop DEPENDS on pulse versions, you'll find that to install pulse, you'll end up upgrading the desktop, and as everything depends on the desktop, other things will update, so basically you'll ennd up with almost full distro upgrade, and a few lose non-upgrade packags which may well break incompatible
[19:30] <HypnotiX> ubi-console-failed at code 1
[19:30] <ikonia> smaudet: I'm not going to argue this any more - just do it, I've lost interest
[19:30] <OerHeks> mojtaba, you might want to check it within windows, my best opinion it is empty space
[19:30] <wilee-nilee> Guest47892, Just a heads up that the desktop is end of life, but the server is still supported, I saw the linuxcnc so I figured you have a X, not sure on any permissions.
[19:31] <iampoz> wilee-nilee: Got a quick question - Has there been anyone talking about nvidia problems with the lastest update? (in the last 1-2 weeks)
[19:31] <mojtaba> OerHeks: You mean I should boot to windows and then see what is it?
[19:31] <smaudet> ikonia: ... I don't know what 'interest' there was to have. I never disagreed that it was difficult.
[19:31] <mojtaba> OerHeks: Is it possible to see what is it in ubuntu?
[19:31] <wilee-nilee> iampoz, what makes you think I know?
[19:31] <Guest47892> wilee-nilee: i have no options other than running 10.04
[19:31] <smaudet> ikonia: unless you have a graph to show me then your words don't mean much to me at the moment.
[19:31] <wilee-nilee> Guest47892, I suspected that.
[19:32] <iampoz> wilee-nilee: because you are awesome and from past experiences with your help, you know everything.
[19:32] <mojtaba> OerHeks: I see in disks in ubunut, it shows: size: 4.1 GB (4,096,000,000 bytes)      Partition Type: Linux swap     Content: Unknown
[19:32] <wilee-nilee> iampoz, hardly I know nothing about nvidia. ;)
[19:33] <uhelp> ikonia: i would like to fix the existing install if possible even if it isn't as easy as reinstalling since I feel I will have a better understanding if I fix it
[19:33] <mojtaba> OerHeks: Can I delete the swap partition and then make another one, considering it is encrypted.
[19:33] <julian-delphiki> smaudet: what ikonia is saying is true...
[19:33] <julian-delphiki> smaudet: i don't understand your very rude attitude, when you're the one wanting help
[19:33] <iampoz> wilee-nilee: Okay, thanks aways, this is just the first place to go for things need help with
[19:33] <pranav> i went offline.. is there a tool or command, to get click location in linux ubuntu terminal ? xdotool only gets current location
[19:33] <iampoz> things I need help with*
[19:33] <ikonia> uhelp: then do it - if there is a technical reason not to do it, i'll help, but if it's just because you want to fix a mess rather than do a simple solution, I've not got the interest
[19:33] <JamesK> julian-delphiki: hello, it is showing the same MD5Sum as in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes ubuntu-13.04-desktop-amd64.iso , how can be the file size of the ISO differ then?
[19:34] <mojtaba> wilee-nilee: Could you please take a look at this http://picpaste.com/pics/Screenshot_from_2013-08-23_15_07_58-h60MKA12.1377285497.png
[19:34] <uhelp> ikonia: ok, I will be back if that doesn't work and then reinstall doesn't work
[19:34] <mojtaba> wilee-nilee: and let me know what should I do?
[19:34] <smaudet> julian-delphiki: where am I being rude? I apologize if it seems that way.
[19:35] <wilee-nilee> mojtaba, You have been being advised, what is the end goal here?
[19:35] <smaudet> julian-delphiki: I think perhaps irc is not a good medium to be judging whether someone is being rude.
[19:36] <mojtaba> wilee-nilee: I want to add that unallocated area to my /home partition, but it says that I have four primary partition and it does not allow me to make new one.
[19:36] <julian-delphiki> smaudet: you seem to be rejecting help and telling someone who KNOWS WHAT THEYRE DOING that their words dont mean anything to you.
[19:36] <wilee-nilee> mojtaba, which is the home partition?
[19:36] <mojtaba> wilee-nilee: sda6
[19:36] <nl287> mojtaba: then add logical partition
[19:37] <uhelp> mojtaba: you can mount the largest user's home partition into this space
[19:37] <mojtaba> nl287: It does not allow me to add anything
[19:37] <smaudet> julian-delphiki: The only 'help' I was offered was to run a dist-upgrade. If I don't want to run a dist-upgrade, that's not a lot of help, is it?
[19:37] <julian-delphiki> smaudet: why would you not want to run a dist-upgrade?
[19:37] <nl287> mojtaba: then remove one of primary
[19:37] <mojtaba> uhelp: I have just one user.
[19:37] <smaudet> julian-delphiki: Are you aware of what LTS is?
[19:37] <wilee-nilee> mojtaba, You can only exspand the extended to take up that space after removing the swap to do so, andf then resize the home, then put the swap in the extended, I would not run an encrypted OS either.
[19:38] <julian-delphiki> smaudet: are you aware that dist-upgrade doesn't remove you from LTS, all it does it maybe upgrade the kernel
[19:38] <JamesK> julian-delphiki: please, reply.
[19:38] <bazhang> smaudet, a dist-upgrade does NOT change versions
[19:38] <mojtaba> nl287: Is swap partition primary partition? (it is encrypted at the moment though)
[19:38] <uhelp> mojtaba: then you can mount a directory of your user as this partition (maybe media files, etc)
[19:38] <smaudet> julian-delphiki: no, I was not. How is that possible?
[19:38] <julian-delphiki> JamesK: I'm not sure.
[19:38] <wilee-nilee> mojtaba, its not in a extended it is a primary
[19:38] <julian-delphiki> smaudet: because do-release-upgrade or w/e is the command that upgrades toa different ubuntu version
[19:38] <bazhang> !dist-upgrade | smaudet
[19:38] <mrmowgli> Anyone know what package includes the 'elf' command line tool?
[19:38] <uhelp> mojtaba: you can combine the partitions but to do so you need to take the data off of them, delete the partitions, make a new partition the size of both, and then put the data back
[19:39] <mojtaba> wilee-nilee: swap should be in extended?
[19:39] <wilee-nilee> uhelp, Thats incorrect
[19:39] <HypnotiX> should i create ext2 or ext4 for my main partition
[19:39] <fbdystang> Hi, please help. I have ubuntu 13.04 getting stuck at boot and giving me a blinking cursor. nomodeset and removing quiet splash allow text but it still gets stuck. Please advise
[19:39] <smaudet> So if I run dist-upgrade,  what, that will do what? Upgrade all my packages? And leave me on 12.04.2?
[19:39] <uhelp> wilee-nilee: that is the easiest way
[19:39] <wilee-nilee> mojtaba, Not necessarily you could move ot to being next to the first two primaries.
[19:39] <mojtaba> uhelp: Will I lose my data if I delete the swap partition?
[19:39] <wilee-nilee> uhelp, To you maybe
[19:40] <wilee-nilee> mojtaba, no
[19:40] <smaudet> This concept is rather confusing.
[19:40] <HypnotiX> should i create ext2 or ext4 for my main partition anyone please
[19:40] <smaudet> Will this get me to pulseaudio >=3?
[19:40] <mojtaba> wilee-nilee: What is the swap partition for?
[19:40] <uhelp> mojtaba: be sure to use swapoff before you remove a swap partition then it should be ok to remove it
[19:40] <micaelbergeron> mojdata, the swap partition is just a 'working' area for your system in the event it needs more virtual memory.
[19:40] <wilee-nilee> mojtaba, For when the memeory gets used up and hibernating
[19:40] <mojtaba> wilee-nilee: If I delete the swap partition, then can I make a new partition using the unallocated one and the removed swap?
[19:41] <wilee-nilee> mojtaba, Yes, you can have 3 primaries there.
[19:41] <mojtaba> uhelp: As you can see, ubuntu can not determine the file system; I think because it is encrypted. What should I do now?
[19:41] <wilee-nilee> in that space on the HD you have two with windows now. mojtaba
[19:41] <HypnotiX> sigh have been trying to get my pc working again since last night after ubuntu decided not to boot anymore
[19:41] <nl287> mojtaba: u cen safely remove swap
[19:42] <julian-delphiki> smaudet: it may take you to 12.04.3
[19:42] <julian-delphiki> (if thats out yet, i forget)
[19:42] <wilee-nilee> HypnotiX, ext4 is the standard use
[19:42] <julian-delphiki> ah, nope, it hasn't
[19:42] <uhelp> mojtaba: if you have a swap partition which you are not currently using as swap you can always remove that partition
[19:42] <mojtaba> nl287: Without swapping off?
[19:42] <wilee-nilee> mojtaba, has to be off to remove, are you on a live cd?
[19:42] <uhelp> mojtaba: sudo swapoff -a
[19:43] <nl287> mojtaba: with swapping off
[19:43] <HypnotiX> so why do i always get an error with 13.04 on install if i create a swap partition is so dumb
[19:43] <mojtaba> wilee-nilee: Yes, I am using live cd
[19:43] <wilee-nilee> cool
[19:43] <smaudet> julian-delphiki, bazhang: Actually, I just ran that in my term, I'm already on 12.04.3 (my bad), and it only is going to install 6 new packages, and no new pulseaudio =/
[19:43] <mojtaba> uhelp: Thanks.
[19:43] <wilee-nilee> HypnotiX, Are you breaking the partitio type and amount rules?
[19:43] <smaudet> 12.04.2 was the release last I checked, I didn't know if I'd been put on 12.04.3 yet was all
[19:43] <julian-delphiki> smaudet: *shrug* it was worth a shot, they usually don't update major versions in LTS
[19:43] <shashankg> I want to scan my hardrive using clamav. when I tried sudo freshclam it returned  "/etc/clamav/freshclam.conf must have no more than 0700 permissions." what is it. and how to update my virus database to scan the hard drive.
[19:44] <julian-delphiki> so, smaudet, do YOU know what LTS is ;)
[19:44] <julian-delphiki> :p
[19:44] <nl287> mojtaba: u can very easy odd swapfile on any partition, even on '/'
[19:44] <smaudet> Yes, I do.
[19:44] <HypnotiX> no i just hit install and the installer creates an ext4 and a swap and then i get an error saying swap cant be mounted
[19:44] <smaudet> Stable packages, for the most part. I.e. I'm not on the crazyness of the 6 month release cycle.
[19:44] <nl287> odd/add
[19:44] <wilee-nilee> HypnotiX, Can you take a screen shot of the HD with gparted and imagebin it?
[19:44] <julian-delphiki> smaudet: right, and it won't upgrade a packge from 2->3 in an LTS
[19:44] <smaudet> Or 1 year, whatever it is.
[19:45] <smaudet> julian-delphiki: exactly
[19:45] <mojtaba> nl287: odd swapfile?
[19:45] <guntbert> shashankg: show us the output of   ls -l /etc/clamav/freshclam.conf
[19:45] <uhelp> mojtaba: he meant add
[19:45] <HypnotiX> wilee-nilee: its empty right now no partitions on the HDD, im on a live cd
[19:45] <mojtaba> uhelp: nl287: Thank you all. wilee-nilee
[19:45] <HypnotiX> wilee-nilee:  tryied to create an ext4 partition with gparted and i get an error
[19:45] <nl287> mojtaba: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-add-a-swap-file-howto/
[19:45] <smaudet> julian-delphiki: nevertheless if a package starts showing signs of wear and tear it might be a good idea to try to look at manually upgrading, depending on how much trouble it is.
[19:46] <wilee-nilee> HypnotiX, make a new partition table then do the install, I'm not sure what you problems actually are I have not followed.
[19:46] <wilee-nilee> your*
[19:46] <shashankg> guntbert: -r--r--r-- 1 clamav adm 830 Aug 22 12:49 /etc/clamav/freshclam.conf
[19:46] <julian-delphiki> smaudet: i'd say it's probably not worth the trouble, since a bunch of ubuntu-desktop packages rely on it
[19:47] <smaudet> julian-delphiki: right,  and I'm using kubuntu-desktop - so I have to look at my graphs to see exactly how much troulbe that is.
[19:47] <wilee-nilee> HypnotiX, Didn't you 0 out the HD?
[19:47] <smaudet> Without graphs, I can't see how much trouble it is.
[19:47] <nl287> mojtaba: 1. dd if=/dev/zero of=/swapfile bs=1024 count=524288 2. mkswap /swapfile 3. swapon /swapfile ... and u have swap without swap partition
[19:47] <HypnotiX> wilee-nilee:  tried to
[19:47] <smaudet> Hence the comment about ikonia's words not being of very much use to me.
[19:47] <julian-delphiki> smaudet: i'm not sure what you mean by "graphs"
[19:47] <smaudet> Since I want to see how much trouble it is
[19:47] <smaudet> Dependency graphs
[19:48] <wilee-nilee> HypnotiX, YOu need a new partition table you can do it in gparted
[19:48] <mojtaba> nl287: Is it better to have swap file or swap partition?
[19:48] <smaudet> At least I will once these 6 or so packages upgrade :)
[19:48] <uhelp> mojtaba: the best answer is to have a device just for swap like a small but very fast ssd
[19:48] <wilee-nilee> mojtaba, file works nicely, but I don't think it works for a hibernate sistuation is all.
[19:48] <HypnotiX> wilee-nilee:   i am trying but it wont work
[19:48] <nl287> mojtaba: i think swap partition may be faster but i am not sure
[19:48] <wilee-nilee> HypnotiX, trying what and how?
[19:49] <uhelp> mojtaba: however that is overkill so the next best option is a partition
[19:49] <smaudet> julian-delphiki: I'll show you the graph once I get it generated
[19:49] <HypnotiX> wilee-nilee:   to created a primary ext4 partition with gparted
[19:49] <uhelp> mojtaba: although a file may be equally fast as all options if swap isn't used (much)
[19:49] <julian-delphiki> smaudet: oh, using apt-rdepends?
[19:49]  * OerHeks never seen encrypted swap with encrypted partitions
[19:49] <wilee-nilee> HypnotiX, You need a new partition table first.
[19:49] <guntbert> shashankg: you can fulfill the requirements with    sudo chmod -v 0700 /etc/clamav/freshclam.conf
[19:49] <HypnotiX> wilee-nilee:   ok
[19:49] <smaudet> julian-delphiki: sure, I was using debtree, but that could work too
[19:49] <wilee-nilee> OerHeks, lvm does that I have seen it
[19:50] <wilee-nilee> as I have seen rather*
[19:50] <wilee-nilee> HypnotiX, Do you know how to do that?
[19:50] <HypnotiX> wilee-nilee:   of course not :)
[19:51] <OerHeks> wilee-nilee, i know it is possible, but regarding security i think it is not done.
[19:51] <shashankg> guntbert: now sudo freshclam is showing Can't open/parse the config file /etc/clamav/freshclam.conf error.
[19:51] <fbdystang> Hi, please help. I have ubuntu 13.04 getting stuck at boot and giving me a blinking cursor. nomodeset and removing quiet splash allow text but it still gets stuck. Please advise
[19:51] <HypnotiX> wilee-nilee:   so i hit create partition table, i select msdos ?
[19:51] <wilee-nilee> HypnotiX, gparted-device-create new partition table accept the msdos
[19:52] <wilee-nilee> yep Hyperbyte
[19:52] <HypnotiX> :)
[19:52] <wilee-nilee> HypnotiX, yep
[19:52] <wilee-nilee> Hyperbyte, sorry
[19:52] <HypnotiX> ok done now
[19:52] <chamunks> cannot open protocol file /proc/net/tcp no such file or directory
[19:52] <chamunks> from running fuser -n tcp 25511
[19:53] <wilee-nilee> OerHeks, I think you are right, why anyone bothers is the question. ;)
[19:53] <HypnotiX> wilee-nilee: i think its done now i create my ext4 ? and swap maybe?
[19:53] <wilee-nilee> HypnotiX, Should work now.
[19:53] <mojtaba> OerHeks: sudo ecryptfs-setup-swap. This will encrypt your swap partition
[19:53] <chamunks> I'm trying to fix a "Failed to bind to port" problem.
[19:53] <shashankg> guntbert: I use internet via proxy server. so I added the following to the freshclam.conf http://pastebin.com/Nq5finVa maybe it is causing a problem
[19:54] <mladoux> OS: Ubuntu 13.04 Server Issue: Apache can't find java because the JAVA environment variable is not set. Which file would I set this in?
[19:54] <guntbert> shashankg: sorry, I am not good with clamav, please try      sudo chmod -v 0660 /etc/clamav/freshclam.conf (I don't know how serious they take that <0700  requirement)
[19:54] <smaudet> mladoux: .bashrc
[19:54] <mladoux> I don't want to set it system-wide for everyone. I'm trying something with the envvars file right now...
[19:55] <mojtaba> OerHeks: This is the link: http://www.howtogeek.com/116032/how-to-encrypt-your-home-folder-after-installing-ubuntu/
[19:55] <pranav> is there a small terminal based tool in ubuntu which can return me the mouse clicked location ?
[19:55] <guntbert> shashankg: shouldn't cause that problem, and if that was really your password please remove that entry again from the pastebin
[19:56] <HypnotiX> wilee-nilee: i still get an error when i try to create a partition
[19:56] <wilee-nilee> HypnotiX, what is the error?
[19:56] <chamunks> any idea as to how I can fix this tcp thing?
[19:56] <HypnotiX> wilee-nilee: i dont know gparted just doesnt create the partition
[19:57] <wilee-nilee> HypnotiX, have you rebooted the live cd since you have done all this voodoo?
[19:57] <DereC> hi all, running ubuntu 12.04 headless, and trying to connect external usb hdd, but im not able to mount it, basicly ubuntu cant read it, but on laptom with same ubuntu works allright, any idea?
[19:57] <HypnotiX> wilee-nilee: no
[19:57] <shashankg> guntbert: still showing the same cant' parse... error. Thanks for your concern but the proxy password is not a serious issue.
[19:57] <pranav> k time to write a c program to do that now..
[19:58] <pranav> *ok
[19:58] <HypnotiX> wilee-nilee: actually i rebooted right before we started talking
[19:58] <wilee-nilee> HypnotiX, I would and try again, I assume you have used gparted by actually running it with the green check mark.
[19:58] <ironfoot495> Hi how do you instLL .SO FILE IN THE PHP.INI FILE AND WHICH ONE IS THE MOST IMPORTANT?
[19:58] <adamk> DereC: What does 'dmesg' show after you plug the drive in?
[19:58] <ironfoot495> INSTALL
[19:58] <smaudet> ick
[19:58] <smaudet> the r-depends are not very bad
[19:58] <wilee-nilee> HypnotiX, Try one partition at a time, have you just run the auto install?
[19:58] <smaudet> its the forward depends which are a nightmare
[19:58] <ironfoot495> mladoux: are you there???
[19:58] <shashankg> guntbert:  can you tell me what this means IBUS-WARNING **: The owner of /home/shashank/.config/ibus/bus is not root!
[19:58] <HypnotiX> wilee-nilee: green checkmark ? i just ran it from unity
[19:59] <wilee-nilee> HypnotiX, gparted has a run in its panel looks like a green check mark generally
[19:59] <wilee-nilee> HypnotiX, Take a screenshot of gparted and imagebin it.
[20:00] <ironfoot495> I found out that all my .so files are not seen in the php.ini file.
[20:00] <guntbert> shashankg: I haven't seen such a warning, from what command do you get it - that file should NOT be owned by root
[20:00]  * ezra-s bye
[20:00] <wilee-nilee> !imagebin
[20:00] <uhelp> pranav: perhaps I missed your msg but you want something that tracks mouse usage?
[20:00] <DereC> adamk, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6019056/
[20:00] <ironfoot495> so I'm trying to find a clean way to install them on my php.ini.
[20:00] <chamunks> "cannot open protocol file /proc/net/tcp no such file or directory"  from running fuser -n tcp 25511
[20:00] <uhelp> pranav: I would look at the source for xeyes
[20:00] <HypnotiX> wilee-nilee: http://imagebin.org/268545
[20:00] <shashankg> guntbert:  it happens every time I do sudo gedit /etc/anyfile
[20:01] <ironfoot495> is that possible?
[20:01] <wilee-nilee> HypnotiX, This is a western digital HD right?
[20:01] <HypnotiX> wilee-nilee: yes
[20:01] <pranav> uhelp: hmm.. thanks!
[20:01] <mladoux> ironfoot495, what?
[20:01] <guntbert> shashankg: ah, you shouldn't do that (never call a GUI app with sudo, use gksudo instead)
[20:02] <adamk> DereC: Either there is a problem with the USB port(s) on that computer, there's a bug in the xhci kernel driver, or there's some incompatibility somewhere.
[20:02] <guntbert> !gksudo | shashankg
[20:02] <wilee-nilee> HypnotiX, If I recall a couple of them did not work with linux, look on the web with that exact model and check this
[20:02] <HypnotiX> wilee-nilee: i had ubuntu running fine for the last two weeks on this exact same hardware
[20:03] <Extreminador> how can i run some programs with administrator privileges ? i mean if i open the program a password input shold appear before
[20:03] <DereC> adamk, tried to turn off usb3.0 support on mobo, and tried blacklist uas but no succes
[20:03] <ironfoot495> I've left some messages along the way.
[20:03] <wilee-nilee> HypnotiX, I have to assume you know what your doing the hd looks to be ready for partitions, I would try a reboot, then do a partition build or auto install.
[20:03] <ironfoot495> mladoux:
[20:03] <HypnotiX> wilee-nilee: this morning after some partial upgrade thing it just went nuts, and i tried to reinstall it
[20:03] <guntbert> shashankg: about clamav: please revert what I made you try with      sudo chmod -v 0444 /etc/clamav/freshclam.conf   then ask the channel again to find someone with better knowledge about clamav
[20:03] <DereC> adamk, so try to update kernel?
[20:04] <Extreminador> using the desktop... i am asking this because the ubuntu software center is not working corrrectly with enlightment desktop enviroment
[20:04] <HypnotiX> wilee-nilee: now here i am with my hdd wiped and no hope in sight :)
[20:05] <HypnotiX> wilee-nilee: ill reboot now and try again
[20:05] <chamunks> I know that a reboot would be helpful but I've got a heap of servers that cant really afford the reboot at the moment.
[20:05] <shashankg> ok. Can you help with the brightness issue with my laptop . I can't change the brightness of my laptop. I tried the top  answer here. It doesn't help. http://askubuntu.com/questions/128463/how-to-control-brightness
[20:05] <wilee-nilee> HypnotiX, the disks app on the live cd have a smart check as well
[20:06] <shashankg> guntbert: ok. Can you help with the brightness issue with my laptop . I can't change the brightness of my laptop. I tried the top  answer here. It doesn't help. http://askubuntu.com/questions/128463/how-to-control-brightness
[20:07] <wilee-nilee> shashankg, Have you searched google with the exact computer model, hardware and this problem?
[20:07] <uhelp> shashankg: on mine you have to plug it in for maximum brightness
[20:07] <uhelp> shashankg: (at least on my old lenovo)
[20:08] <guntbert> shashankg: sorry, never had to do anything in that way - I carefully (and somewhat expensively) picked my laptop for compatibility with linux
[20:10] <shashankg> wilee-nilee: uhelp: I searched and found that solution. but it doesn't work for my laptop.
[20:10] <uhelp> shashankg: check proc for some directory having do to with your screen and also bios
[20:10] <shashankg> guntbert: ok thanks for helping me.
[20:11] <guntbert> shashankg: I didn't really, did I?
[20:11] <mdev> how can I terminate a shell script with killall
[20:11] <uhelp> shashankg: i had a laptop with a file in /proc that I could echo -n numbers into to change the brightness
[20:12] <shashankg> Well you tried and that is really appreciable.
[20:12] <uhelp> mdev: killall -9 bash
[20:12] <uhelp>  mdev: killall -9 sh
[20:12] <mdev> thanks
[20:12] <uhelp> mdev (depending on which shell your script is using)
[20:13] <saxin> When you are using netflix in Ubuntu, I can't use the addon that makes me able to see the movies from the USA. Anyone know how I can get around that? :)
[20:13] <shashankg> unhelp: which file in /proc?
[20:13] <mladoux> meh, gotta run, I think I got it figured out.
[20:14] <uhelp> saxin: you could use vmware for netflix only (cheat your way out of the problem) I don't know about the plugin but windows-only sofware is a hard problem to fix
[20:15] <uhelp> cat /proc/acpi/video/GFX0/DD02/brightness
[20:15] <syntroPi> why on earth is remmina so badly broken? it wont connect anymore, purging it and releting ~./remmina then reinstalling it and i cant even save any session templates anymore? is there a ppa for better quality package?
[20:15] <uhelp> (but your /proc will be different)
[20:16] <shashankg> unhelp: What will this solution do? http://thanhsiang.org/faqing/node/180 can it help. ?
[20:16] <smaudet> https://mega.co.nz/#!IAgAzC6a!NlwWg3K0A_E3HK6Y7xIXIglxJKNijq5YSXhnCOcKDdQ , <julian-delphiki>
[20:17] <uhelp> shashankg: you have to find your files in /proc because every vendor is different
[20:17] <uhelp> shashankg: or maybe you don't have it at all
[20:17] <uhelp> shashankg: or maybe you need to install some device driver to have it
[20:17] <julian-delphiki> smaudet: oh my
[20:17] <julian-delphiki> thats a mess
[20:17] <shashankg> ok.
[20:17] <uhelp> shashankg: so look for it in all of proc and if you find it GREAT and if not so sorry it isn't your answer
[20:17] <mdev> thanks
[20:21] <goose209> When will ubuntu 13.10 be officially released
[20:21] <bekks> In 10/2013.
[20:21] <uhelp> goose209: OCT(10) 20(13)
[20:24] <smaudet> julian-delphiki: yeah partly 'cause I don't know how to use debtree very effectively yet, here's a cut down version without recursive dependencies: http://imagebin.org/268548
[20:24] <smaudet> julian-delphiki: what would be useful to me know would be the dependency graph from 13.04 or 13.10; anyone mind running a couple command for me so I can compare?
[20:24] <smaudet> commands*
[20:25] <uhelp> does anyone have a question that hasn't been answered? (not that I would know but I have a minute while I am waiting for a reboot)
[20:25] <Extreminador> uhelp, me
[20:25] <smaudet> uhelp: if you have 10 minutes an raring/saucy and some terminal chops, perhaps
[20:25] <Extreminador> how can i run some programs with administrator privileges ? i mean if i open the program a password input shold appear before
[20:26] <Extreminador> using the desktop... i am asking this because the ubuntu software center is not working corrrectly with enlightment desktop enviroment
[20:26] <argo> may be need use sudo
[20:26] <uhelp> Extreminador: you can type su then root password then start the app from the command line
[20:26] <bekks> gksudo / gksu / kdesu
[20:26] <bekks> sudo for graphical applications is - no good idea.
[20:27] <Extreminador> well but i was asking something like to change that in the menus with out the need of use a terminal
[20:27] <bekks> uhelp: you cannot type su since that bwould require a root password being set.
[20:27] <Extreminador> becuase actuyaly is what i am using sudo software.center
[20:27] <bekks> !root | uhelp
[20:27] <bekks> Extreminador: You want to use gksu instead of sudo
[20:27] <Kalel> Greetings..
[20:28] <daftykins> hi
[20:28] <Extreminador> bekks, ahhh thats why sometimes some things does not work
[20:28] <uhelp> bekks: you can set a root password -- it isn't as much a problem as some people would have you believe
[20:28] <bekks> uhelp: I know that - by default, there is no pw set.
[20:28] <Kalel> I'm tryin' to burn an iso W7 onto a dvd. I got an error: Anybody already had this situation?
[20:29] <Extreminador> sow i will always need to use a terminal ?
[20:29] <bekks> Kalel: Without knowing the ubuntu version, the burning program, and the error message? No.
[20:29] <bekks> Extreminador: No.
[20:29] <uhelp> Extreminador: you can change the icon to run something like ssh -X root@localhost your-app and add id_rsa,pub to your root authorized_keys
[20:30] <uhelp> Extreminador: correction id_rsa.pub
[20:30] <OerHeks> Kalel maybe a bad download, who can tell with w7 ?
[20:30] <Extreminador> and where is the file or how can i change that option menu (not a icon)
[20:30] <bekks> ssh root login should always be disabled due to security reasons.
[20:30] <Extreminador> i am using the enlightment desktoptop enviroment
[20:30] <bekks> It is one of the worst ideas to enable ssh root login.
[20:30] <Extreminador> but bekks  i want that only active for the software-center
[20:30] <Kalel> bekks: Ubuntu 13.04 - Brasero : Error while burning.. Thats it.
[20:30] <Kalel> OerHeks: Windows 7 iso..
[20:30] <bekks> Extreminador: Then forget about ssh root login.
[20:31] <bekks> Kalel: NEver used braser. I always use k3b.
[20:31] <ipauldev> I am having an issue with apt-get. System ran out of disk space during an upgrade... now a broken apt-get
[20:31] <uhelp> bekks: it would solve his problem
[20:31] <bekks> uhelp: It will not. It will enable security risks he isnt even aware of.
[20:31] <Kalel> 'SCSI error on write(0,16): [2 04 08] Drive not ready. Logical unit is not ready.'
[20:31] <DalePlummer> #quit
[20:32] <smaudet> If someone using 13.04 or 13.10 (and who uses pulseaudio) could give me the output of this command: debtree -R --max-depth 1 pulseaudio > pulseaudiodeps.dot && dot -Tpng pulseaudiodeps.dot > pulseaudiodeps.png
[20:32] <Kalel> I cannot eject the media. I have to reboot the machine. I'll come back fellas...
[20:32] <uhelp> bekks: what is the security risk if the files he cares about are under his personal account anyway?  This isn't a big multi-user system.
[20:32] <Extreminador> humm well i don want to have unecessary risks
[20:32] <bekks> Extreminador: Then dont use ssh root logins.
[20:33] <ipauldev> unmet dependencies, must force, so I add -f, then Internal Error, No file name for libssl1.0.0, then I try to remove that and I get a bunch of packages with "but it is not going to be installed"
[20:33] <smaudet> Note; to run that you will need to 'sudo apt-get install debtree dot' if you don't already have those
[20:33] <bekks> uhelp: The risk is opening up a system to an attacker. You arent safe just because you leave your car open and no one steals it. It just that no one stole it yet.
[20:34] <Extreminador> sow there is no way for example to use pop up a password input when opening the software-center
[20:34] <uhelp> bekks: what is the risk that wouldn't exist for ssh open for the user if the account is secured by a private key?
[20:35] <uhelp> bekks: I am not sure why this is a bad idea for single-user systems in the case of private key?
[20:35] <smaudet> Extreminador: This isn's so much advice as a technical possibility; you could setup root with a desktop environment, but then that would only be for root...and there are a bunch of other problems with doing that, so don't.
[20:35] <bekks> uhelp: having a root pw in addition to a key auth and not disabling pw auth explicitely is in invitation for brute force attacks.
[20:36] <smaudet> Extreminador: otherwise the best solution would be a 'preview mode'
[20:36] <uhelp> bekks: password auth isn't worse than key auth if the password isn't weak (for instance use base64 of key as password)
[20:37] <smaudet> In the case of the software center you could just use only apt-get
[20:37] <bekks> uhelp: Basically, it is worse.
[20:37] <smaudet> sudo stays logged in as long as you are using it frequently
[20:37] <uhelp> bekks: if someone uses 12345 as their password it is bad but if the password is strong I am not aware of any issues
[20:37] <bekks> uhelp: You cant type a 4096bit key that easy - using a password.
[20:37] <smaudet> Is it possible to purchase stuff using the software center?
[20:37] <smaudet> err
[20:37] <smaudet> I mean
[20:37] <smaudet> apt-get
[20:37] <uhelp> bekks: you can if it is a phrase or if you copy/paste
[20:37] <FloodBot1> smaudet: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:38] <bekks> uhelp: And if you cant, it is not that easy.
[20:38] <smaudet> FloodBot1: thanks, I'm not flooding.
[20:38] <Extreminador> smaudet, yup...
[20:38] <Extreminador> smaudet, apt-get install program
[20:38] <bekks> uhelp: and brute force attackers mostly dont copy&paste your password.
[20:38] <smaudet> Extreminador: no I mean for stuff that requires a credit card
[20:38] <smaudet> e.g. purchased apps
[20:39] <uhelp> bekks: everyone can use a phrase -- there is nothing which prevents strong passwords other than people just not bothering to type them
[20:39] <Extreminador> smaudet, that i don know...
[20:39] <smaudet> Extreminador: that's pretty much the only reason to use the software center, other than I suppose previews
[20:39] <smaudet> I've never used it myself.
[20:39] <uhelp> bekks: a key is just a long password
[20:40] <smaudet> I 'shop' on the interwebz for applications, then apt-get them if they exist.
[20:40] <smaudet> Usually has better documentation and pictures online anyways.
[20:40] <bekks> uhelp: Nope. key based auth and passphrase based auth work differently.
[20:40] <Extreminador> well smaudet u use it because it's easyer to read and search for stuff
[20:40] <Extreminador> instead use the terminal
[20:40] <smaudet> Extreminador: synaptic does the same job
[20:41] <smaudet> if you don't want to search with apt-cache
[20:41] <smaudet> If you aren't buying an application its just slightly prettier...although it sucks for package management.
[20:41] <Extreminador> specialy that... the cache search it's a little un-praticak
[20:41] <Extreminador> un-ptratical
[20:42] <smaudet> Extreminador: not for someone comfortable (like me) with cmd line
[20:42] <uhelp> bekks: they need not.  What I think you mean is that linux passwords don't use public key cryptography but they could if that was the chosen method.  Keys don't need to be used with public key cryptography systems either even though ssh does use it in this fashion.
[20:42] <smaudet> Extreminador: synaptic is nicer for showing dependencies than apt-cache
[20:42] <smaudet> but if you don't care about dependencies apt-cache is better.
[20:42] <bekks> uhelp: They are different, in fact. Even if they dont need to be - bot approaces are implemented differently.
[20:43] <Extreminador> uhelp and bekks , sow the problem that you guys are talking about is about if my password is a easy password or a hard one
[20:43] <smaudet> e.g. if I want to find a browser in cmd line its just: apt-cache search browser
[20:43] <Extreminador> smaudet, i will try it...
[20:43] <bekks> Extreminador: Basically - instead of a password, you can use stronger key based authentication, without the need to type a password.
[20:43] <uhelp> Extreminador: ssh keys can be up to 4096 bits
[20:43] <smaudet> and if you are looking for a particular browser e.g. apt-cache search browser | grep chrome
[20:43] <bekks> Extreminador: And, in addition, you can even use keys that require a password, too.
[20:44] <Extreminador> uffffff lool
[20:44] <Extreminador> let me check what a key based authentication is
[20:45] <smaudet> Extreminador: long password
[20:45] <qwertyf> im trying out pear os and i broke it and where should i go to talk about how to fix it
[20:45] <smaudet> That you will never remember ;)
[20:45] <bekks> Extreminador: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH
[20:45] <smaudet> Extreminador: they look a little like this:
[20:45] <smaudet> kahe;fhaielhurfalsdfmhklweop389ryia8ou2h3l;1i;lasdkjfihj
[20:45] <Extreminador> ahh ok got it...
[20:45] <Extreminador> like a 64bits password
[20:45] <smaudet> yeah
[20:46] <Extreminador> but the guys were discussing back there they talk about the password being easy or harder
[20:46] <delinquentme> is there a command to toggle the windowed vrs full screen state of a window?
[20:46] <uhelp> Extreminador: although you don't type the password the key is like a password stored as a file on your hard drive
[20:46] <smaudet> Extreminador: the password is still there though, because generally you protect the password with a password
[20:47] <smaudet> So you encrypt the password, now called the key, with a shorter password
[20:47] <uhelp> Extreminador: anyone who can get access to your hard drive can extract that key (which in turn can be password protected but need not be)
[20:47] <Extreminador> what diference there is beetween a pop up window password (to write the password before the program opens) and write it on a terminal ?
[20:47] <smaudet> uhelp, Extreminador: which, again, means choosing strong passwords is still important
[20:47] <bekks> Extreminador: There is no difference in typing the password. There is a huge difference in the named applications.
[20:47] <smaudet> since its still possible to just brute force the encryption on the key...
[20:48] <smaudet> Especially if you chose something simple like 'dog' or 'cat' for your key-password
[20:48] <Extreminador> sow having a pop up windows to ask for the password for a particular program is not the real issue right ?
[20:49] <smaudet> For super important passwords I recommend writing down a giant password and locking it up in a safe. That way, at least they have to break into the safe to get the key to your key >_>
[20:49] <bekks> Extreminador: One of the issues is: do not use sudo for graphical applications.
[20:49] <uhelp> Extreminador: actually they can shine a lazer at your window from a km away and when you type the sound waves vibrate the lazer and they can record your key strokes
[20:49] <Extreminador> bekks, yup that i did not knew i am using now gksu
[20:50] <smaudet> uhelp: article?
[20:50] <Extreminador> uhelp, and that will not happen if is it on a terminal ?
[20:50] <ihre> I have 2 LANS, .1.0 and .2.0, my laptop is connected to the .2.0 network, and my desktop to the .1.0. If I connect a cable to the laptop on the .2.0 LAN, could I access the .1.0 LAN with my desktop in any way?
[20:51] <smaudet> Extreminador: it will, the only difference is that they have to break into your house later
[20:51] <Extreminador> ahhh  got it...
[20:51] <smaudet> So in case of government agents with super-lasers, lock the hard drive up in the safe when you leave as well ;)
[20:51] <smaudet> And get one of those really big safes that require at least an hour to saw into with more lasers.
[20:52] <Extreminador> well my password has letter, numbers and some special chars
[20:52] <Extreminador> but yehh i will use them a terminal to open the software-center
[20:52] <Extreminador> but i will test as well the
[20:52] <Extreminador> synaptics
[20:52] <smaudet> bekks: re not using sudo for graphical applications; how about text editors?
[20:53] <smaudet> And command lines, for that matter.
[20:53] <smaudet> bekks: drop into vt1 whenever you need to sudo?
[20:53] <uhelp> Extreminador: don't worry -- the donut-super-sausage-tits agents mainly focus their surveillance on teenage girls in USA http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/Parenting/pennsylvania-school-fbi-probe-webcam-students-spying/story?id=9905488
[20:53] <smaudet> Or did you just mean graphical as in gimp, inkscape, photoshop, firefox, etc
[20:54] <xteejx> Q: Can sed split files?
[20:54] <Cira> heya... I had wireshark up and running, then I uninstalled it, then I reinstalled it, and now it wont start. Keeps saying it cant find libwiretap.so.2... Running Kubuntu... Any ideas what's wrong?
[20:54] <Cira> I have located the missing library in: /usr/lib/libwiretap.so.2
[20:54] <smaudet> uhelp; true, but who says someone didn't sell one of those lasers to a foreign government when then recruited the local Mexican maffia to spy on your house?
[20:54] <Extreminador> lool uhelp well actualy i have my web cam with the "door" close
[20:55] <Extreminador> it's rare i use that...
[20:56] <uhelp> smaudet: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laser_microphone  <-- I am not joking that these things exist
[20:57] <smaudet> uhelp: and I'm not joking either; who says they don't sell those to the highest bidder in XYZ country?
[20:57] <uhelp> smaudet: and you can absolutely record sound and turn it into keystrokes
[20:57] <smaudet> The mexican maffia is still a problem last I check as well
[20:57] <smaudet> And whatever other maffia you like in non US countries for that matter
[20:58] <Extreminador> uhelp, record sound and turn it to keystrokes ohhh... the correct keystrokes ?
[20:59] <Extreminador> i know some people that it seems they are using a hammer when writing in a keyboard
[20:59] <Extreminador> will that work as well ?
[20:59] <uhelp> Extreminador: yes ... even the amount of time between keys alone gives a good clue as to what is typed
[20:59] <Dillons> I have a question
[21:00] <smaudet> uhelp: there are several companies which specialize in virus and exploit creation, and sell 'surveillance' packages to global governments. Why not throw a couple mics in to boot?
[21:00] <HypnotiX> How can i check if my hdd is dead or dying on a live cd
[21:00] <uhelp> Extreminador: the space bar often sounds different enough to the human ear to to know the number of words and the number of characters in each
[21:00] <compdoc> HypnotiX, read the SMART info
[21:00] <Dillons> If i use Ubuntu ami still able to use windows 7 if i ever want to
[21:00] <compdoc> disk utility can do that
[21:00] <uhelp> smaudet: windows has enough 0-day boogs to not need too many microphones
[21:01] <HypnotiX> compdoc: it says ok on all
[21:01] <smaudet> uhelp: I hope no one in here is using windows regulalry
[21:01] <Dillons> uhelp: If i use Ubuntu ami still able to use windows 7 if i ever want to
[21:01] <HypnotiX> comdoc but i cant install any partitions on it
[21:01] <compdoc> HypnotiX, it says healthy?
[21:01] <IdleOne> !ot
[21:01] <smaudet> IdleOne: srry
[21:02] <Extreminador> Dillons, atm i have both installed... you need to configure your boot to pop up always to ask what you want to open
[21:02] <HypnotiX> assesments are ok
[21:02] <compdoc> HypnotiX, does it have a partition type set? use gparted to set the type: either ms-dos or gpt
[21:02] <frenk> 56
[21:02] <Dillons> Is there anything you have to do specifically to make it where you can still use windows 7
[21:03] <HypnotiX> the table is msdos
[21:03] <smaudet> Regards to my question: can anyone run 'debtree -R --max-depth 1 pulseaudio > pulseaudiodeps.dot && dot -Tpng pulseaudiodeps.dot > pulseaudiodeps.png' for me, who has 13.04/13.10?
[21:03] <frenk> palomo
[21:03] <uhelp> smaudet: I use Windows all the time for websites that won't allow me to use anything other than IE
[21:03] <smaudet> uhelp: that's what god made vm's for
[21:04] <compdoc> HypnotiX, gparted is pretty good at creating partitions. but if the drive had some error, it may be in read-only mode as set in fstab
[21:04] <uhelp> smaudet: do I have any native windows installs --- no ... but I do use it in the VM when I am forced
[21:04] <smaudet> !ot | uhelp
[21:04] <IdleOne> uhelp smaudet Please feel free to join #ubuntu-offtopic and chit chat :)
[21:04] <HypnotiX> compdoc:  so how can i check if thats the case?
[21:04] <Extreminador> Dillons, i don't remember very well what you need to do... but i have done it 3 days ago... i was traying to remember as well  the expression the people uses to that boot login
[21:04] <frenk> sudo
[21:04] <Extreminador> wait for someone else to explain to you...
[21:05] <uhelp> smaudet: why am I being told it is off topic if you are saying "uhelp: that's what god made vm's for"
[21:05] <smaudet> !ot | uhelp
[21:05] <F00LY|LovesAmand> Hey guys! Student here with a question if someone doesnt mind answering or PMing me. I'm taking some Bioinformatics programming courses. Lots of programming work (Perl / Python / C) and learning terminal commands (sed, ls, cd, etc).  I did this for undergrad, and working on Windows at home, but on Mac OSX at school was a nightmare.  I was considering buying a Macbook Pro to make my life easier
[21:05] <F00LY|LovesAmand> .  Then I saw the price *_*  If I buy a Windows based PC and install Ubuntu on it, will I still have the same nightmare learning programming commands / system administration commands? Should I just buy the Macbook to make my life easier? Or does Linux have a similar "Terminal" to mac that can make my life easy?
[21:06] <uhelp> smaudet: why would you be happy to talk about this then "!ot | uhelp"?
[21:06] <Extreminador> Dillons, it's called grub
[21:06] <frenk> mailto:AndresSM@186.4.143.100
[21:06] <Dillons> what happens if we dont have a disk to burn it to
[21:07] <compdoc> HypnotiX, not certain how to tell. maybe if you opened a term window and tried to create a file with nano or something
[21:07] <frenk> sudo ifconfig
[21:07] <Extreminador> Dillons, you mean the ubuntu instalation ?
[21:07] <NikTh> Ah, finally..  → http://releases.ubuntu.com/12.04.3/
[21:07] <HypnotiX> comdoc but i have no partitions right now, im on a live cd
[21:07] <Dillons> yes
[21:08] <HypnotiX> and my hdd is unpartitioned
[21:08] <Dillons> ubuntu-13.04-desktop-amd64.iso
[21:08] <Dillons> i dont have a disk around my house
[21:08] <Extreminador> Dillons, you can use a pen ... but them you need to put the pen bootable
[21:09] <Extreminador> Dillons, i remember long time ago that i did that... but i don't remember what did i do...
[21:09] <Extreminador> Dillons, google for create a pen bootable
[21:09] <F00LY> Repeating myself for anyone who just joined, sorry for the inconvenience.
[21:09] <F00LY> Hey guys! Student here with a question if someone doesnt mind answering or PMing me. I'm taking some Bioinformatics programming courses. Lots of programming work (Perl / Python / C) and learning terminal commands (sed, ls, cd, etc).  I did this for undergrad, and working on Windows at home, but on Mac OSX at school was a nightmare.  I was considering buying a Macbook Pro to make my life easier
[21:09] <F00LY> .  Then I saw the price *_*  If I buy a Windows based PC and install Ubuntu on it, will I still have the same nightmare learning programming commands / system administration commands? Should I just buy the Macbook to make my life easier? Or does Linux have a similar "Terminal" to mac that can make my life easy?
[21:09] <FloodBot1> F00LY: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:10] <compdoc> HypnotiX, ooops, sorry
[21:10] <dopie> how do i move a file to another destination
[21:10] <bekks> F00LY: You will have to learn the same with MacOSX.
[21:10] <frenk> Andrew J. Caines
[21:10] <NikTh> Unetbootin is a good creation tool for Ubuntu Live USB sticks.. http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/
[21:11] <compdoc> HypnotiX, do you open gparted with sudo? or does it ask a password when it opens?
[21:11] <smaudet> FOOLY: questions in one paragraph
[21:11] <F00LY> Hmm? I thought that was one paragraph.
[21:11] <smaudet> FOOLY: re your question, no, Linux has better terminals that OSX
[21:11] <smaudet> FOOLY: then your agent is splitting the question, your question is too verbose?
[21:12] <HypnotiX> compdoc: sec im trying something
[21:12] <smaudet> FOOLY: although i've not used 10.8 (last used 10.6.8), osx's Terminal was pretty atrocious.
[21:12] <F00LY> Smaudet: Ah, thats probably it then. Okay. So, if I buy a PC-based laptop and install Ubuntu, I can do any "administration" style homework / programming homework, and bring it to the school MAC
[21:12] <F00LY> Smaudet: and be okay?
[21:12] <bekks> F00LY: No, since MacOSX isnt Ubuntu.
[21:12] <smaudet> FOOLY: unless you need a mac for some other reason, definitely.
[21:13] <F00LY> Okay, im getting 2 conflicting answers.
[21:13] <smaudet> FOOLY: All the unix stuff you need is going to be there.
[21:13] <smaudet> If you need a more 'native' UNIX implementation, you could always use FreeBSD
[21:14] <NikTh> dopie:  From terminal, you can use mv command or cp (to just copy it)
[21:14] <smaudet> FOOLY: the only reason you'd need an osx would be if you needed to learn some specific OSX administration stuff, or if you needed an OSX program e.g. Final Cut Pro, but it doesn't sound like you do.
[21:15] <F00LY> Yeah, Im just learning to program and do basic terminal commands for moving files, password protecting, etc.
[21:15] <fbdystang> Alright ubuntu ninjas, I am getting a blinking cursor everytime on boot now. How can I fix it? Thanks in advance
[21:15] <smaudet> FOOLY: then ubuntu should do you fine :)
[21:15] <F00LY> Thank you :)
[21:16] <HypnotiX> compdoc: i think it worked, i had to create the partitions in an extended and not as primary to work
[21:16] <Dillons> i downloaded UUI But sience im not using a Ubuntu my .iso is a disc file instead of iso
[21:16] <HypnotiX> compdoc: ah nevermind the installer gave me an error and closed
[21:19] <fbdystang> Really? nobody knows how to fix a blinking cursor?
[21:22] <smaudet> fbdystang: what is a 'blinking cursor'?
[21:22] <IdleOne> !nomodeset | fbdystang
[21:22] <smaudet> What would need fixing about it?
[21:23] <smaudet> fbdystang: I'd check ccsm or kde desktop effects first
[21:24] <smaudet> fbdystang: graphics drivers, cards, parameters etc.
[21:24] <smaudet> Other than that I'm no help
[21:24] <Cheery> is there way to broadcast my desktop on ubuntu?
[21:24] <smaudet> Cheery: sure, xrdp, vnc
[21:25] <smaudet> Cheery: teamviewer
[21:25] <reisio> Cheery: broadcast?
[21:25] <smaudet> Cheery: I think skype too
[21:25] <smaudet> Cheery: half a dozen websites too
[21:26] <smaudet> smaudet: used teamviewer myself on ubuntu, so I know it work(s|ed)
[21:26] <smaudet> Used wine I think though
[21:26] <Cheery> what's the simplest way to do it? It'd only need to be seen.
[21:27] <smaudet> VNC/teamviewer: VNC is supported by tons of software
[21:27] <smaudet> But there may be a config issue or two
[21:27] <smaudet> teamviewer is supported only be teamviewer
[21:27] <smaudet> by*
[21:27] <reisio> Cheery: seen by whom?
[21:27] <smaudet> But you just share a code
[21:27] <Cheery> reisio: enough if a friend would see.
[21:28] <smaudet> Websites are supported nearly everywhere, but may have perf/quality issues
[21:28] <smaudet> And again are only supported by that website
[21:28] <guntbert> !enter | smaudet
[21:28] <smaudet> guntbert: thanks, I was breaking it down by option
[21:29] <HypnotiX> compdoc: are u still here?
[21:29] <compdoc> HypnotiX, yeah.
[21:29] <smaudet> guntbert: also by pros/cons
[21:29] <compdoc> HypnotiX, what size is the hdd?
[21:29] <reisio> Cheery: teamviewer would probably take the least effort altogether
[21:29] <HypnotiX> compdoc: 500gb
[21:30] <Cheery> reisio: when I google it, why do I end up to a retard site?
[21:30] <compdoc> HypnotiX, you were using gparted?
[21:30] <guntbert> smaudet: please don't - you are scrolling the channel even faster
[21:30] <HypnotiX> compdoc: yes
[21:30] <benzrf> hello bobapplepie
[21:30] <smaudet> Cheery: because it is a bit of a retard program; it likes to crash a bit
[21:30] <reisio> Cheery: if you mean teamviewer.com, that's just how retarded their site is :p
[21:30] <smaudet> Cheery: also it runs on wine like I said so that's a cause for some instability
[21:31] <reisio> I haven't noticed any instability
[21:31] <smaudet> guntbert; I'm sorry, that's just how I think; I say what I think, and then remember something later.
[21:31] <reisio> it's unfortunate it's not a native app, but there isn't much that's a competitive alternative
[21:31] <Cheery> smaudet: oh if it's windows software, then I understand. won't touch that with a stick.
[21:31] <reisio> Cheery: well it's all bundled, you just run it
[21:31] <smaudet> Cheery: then I'd suggest the vnc route.
[21:31] <smaudet> reisio: but its still windows software
[21:32] <bobapplepie> is cinnamon a lightweight DE?
[21:32] <gibbs> how do I reload AppArmor on Ubuntu 12.04? /etc/init.d/ only has apparmpr.removed
[21:32] <k1l> bobapplepie: no. lubuntu got a lightweight desktop
[21:32] <k1l> bobapplepie: (lxde)
[21:32] <bobapplepie> is cinnamon significantly lighter than unity?
[21:32] <mmazing> having a strange problem, when i search in unity for any application, i get no results, all the .desktop files are intact in /usr/share/app-install/
[21:32] <mmazing> any ideas?
[21:33] <k1l> bobapplepie: no. its on the same gnome3 base
[21:33] <benzrf> bobapplepie is my brother btw
[21:33] <benzrf> I am trying to assist him
[21:33] <compdoc> HypnotiX, should just work. what does fdisk -l say about it?
[21:33] <eSoul> Hey guys, I am running an Ubuntu 13.04 server box and I have a 2nd network card for my VirtualBox VMs.  Right now, I have to issue a "sudo ifconfig eth1 up" on boot to start the interface but I was wondering if there something something in /etc/network/interfaces I could put in to bring the interface up at boot.   It have no network configuration on it at all, just looking to "turn-on" the
[21:33] <eSoul> interface
[21:33] <smaudet> Cheery: although it just occured to me that if you go vnc and this friend is not on the same network as you, but in e.g. a different country this friend will need to access your IP address, and you will have to setup some port forwarding...if you want something as easy as teamviewer you could try Skype, but again, windows software :P
[21:34] <reisio> smaudet: mmhmm
[21:34] <certanly_not_me> guyz help me pls
[21:34] <certanly_not_me> how to reset ip adress
[21:35] <lakmuz> hello, how to install subversion >=1.7v?
[21:35] <Cheery> smaudet: if I have my own server, could I get something done with avconv?
[21:35] <smaudet> Cheery: sorry I'm not familiar with that package
[21:35] <k1l> certanly_not_me: reset ip adress? that depends on your ISP and netowrk setup. that is more a topic for #networking than for ubuntu
[21:35] <k1l> lakmuz: for which ubuntu?
[21:35] <reisio> Cheery: probably, but it'd be more work; http://www.google.com/search?q=stream%20desktop%20ffmpeg
[21:35] <certanly_not_me> k1l, pls maybie some sort of command will help, ubuntu 13.04
[21:35] <lakmuz> server
[21:35] <lakmuz> 12.04.2
[21:36] <mmazing> figured it out myself - removed ~/.cache/software-center and ran unity --reset &
[21:36] <Cheery> reisio: I'm probably happier to the result. I just silently hoped those live streaming web sites wouldn't exist, because they are so terribly bad.
[21:36] <smaudet> Cheery: I used to run vnc servers on windows and mac and got it to work, the linux configuration is only potentially more difficult if you need to some X config.
[21:36] <k1l> lakmuz: for 12.004 the latest is 1.6.17dfsg-3ubuntu3.3   do you really need >1.7?
[21:36] <reisio> Cheery: heh
[21:37] <HypnotiX> compdoc: meh my hdd might be the problem but i need to be sure
[21:37] <lakmuz> yeah, sh~t i should download 13
[21:37] <compdoc> 500g sounds old
[21:37] <k1l> lakmuz: you could look out for a PPA for 12.04. but again: do you really need 1.7?
[21:38] <lakmuz> yeah already googled it - -
[21:38] <smaudet> Cheery: the hassle with vnc is all on your end though, so if you are prepared to setup a server and stream audio/video to it, you might as well just use vnc, which does the video already
[21:38] <reisio> well, mostly, you still have to get someone else to install a vncviewer, run it, type in an address (that must be accessible)
[21:39] <k1l> lakmuz: http://askubuntu.com/questions/65468/where-can-i-find-a-subversion-1-7-binary lists some possible solutions
[21:39] <reisio> most people can manage going to a website, though
[21:39] <smaudet> Cheery: as long as you test your setup locally and ensure the ports are open the other user just needs to a) install vncviewer  b) grap url c) grab port
[21:39] <reisio> just more work
[21:39] <benzrf> hey, I installed cinnamon, but when I started it it's super zoombed in
[21:39] <benzrf> *zoomed
[21:39] <benzrf> it follows the cursor around and is completely unusable
[21:39] <smaudet> reisio: right, but they still need to install skype/teamviewer
[21:40] <reisio> not exactly
[21:40] <smaudet> And skype/teamviewer still need that identification
[21:40] <reisio> teamviewer you just download and run
[21:40] <reisio> you can even run it from the browser's download link
[21:40] <k1l> benzrf: check the video card settings. watch out for the panning option
[21:40] <smaudet> reisio: right but they need a code
[21:40] <reisio> yes
[21:40] <reisio> it's still simpler than vnc
[21:40] <smaudet> which is your url/port
[21:40] <reisio> not like, massively simpler
[21:40] <reisio> but simpler
[21:40] <smaudet> reisio: not really, copy-paste
[21:40] <smaudet> in both cases
[21:41] <benzrf> k1l: how do I do that?
[21:41] <smaudet> reisio: if anything the url/port look nicer, with teamviewer you get this garbled number that looks like nothing in particular
[21:41] <reisio> smaudet: there's really no comparison, one you run by the download link, one you download, explicitly install, find the launcher for, type in a number for
[21:42] <smaudet> reisio: download/install vncviewer, run the link/find the launcher, type in the url/port
[21:42] <smaudet> Same difference.
[21:42] <reisio> no, as I said, it can launch from the "installer"
[21:42] <k1l> benzrf: depends on your video card /driver. are other desktops ok?
[21:42] <reisio> it's not a large difference, but some users have a lot of time with the whole installation and use of programs :p
[21:43] <smaudet> reisio: fine, vncviewers can do the same
[21:43] <benzrf> k1l: yup
[21:43] <benzrf> tried multiple ones, all fine
[21:43] <benzrf> both vanilla cinnamon and 2d
[21:43] <smaudet> reisio: the 'installer' is just an added convenience to make it easier to uninstall/organize
[21:44] <k1l> benzrf: i could be still a cinnamon issue. in that case ask the cinnamon guys whats going wrong
[21:44] <smaudet> reisio: especially on windows/mac, where the whole thing comes bundled
[21:44] <reisio> they can do the same, sure, they just don't on average
[21:44] <reisio> I have no dog in this fight, guy, it's just an obvservation of reality
[21:44] <reisio> an observavavation
[21:44] <Bauer> can anyone help me test my upnp script for my router? I need someone to try and telnet me from the outside, see whether the router really has opened a port
[21:45] <smaudet> reisio: Not really, its an equal observation of reality that VNC viewers are just exes you double click (or launchers).
[21:45] <reisio> smaudet: yes, and then you have to run something else
[21:45] <benzrf> Bauer: sounds like fun
[21:45] <k1l> !ot | Bauer
[21:45] <benzrf> what do I connect to?
[21:45] <reisio> agreed
[21:45] <benzrf> !list
[21:46] <benzrf> hm
[21:46] <geri> how can i test if my traffic is routed from eth2 to tap0...they are connected over a vbridge!?
[21:46] <benzrf> I thought ubottu was a supybot?
[21:46] <reisio> what is it people expect !list to do?
[21:46] <reisio> oh list commands?
[21:46] <benzrf> reisio: supybot uses !list for modules
[21:46] <benzrf> *list of modules
[21:46] <reisio> ah, ok
[21:46] <Bauer> benzrf: telnet 109.226.15.122 12345
[21:46] <benzrf> !version
[21:46] <smaudet> reisio: packaging detail of some vnc packages; Cheery: if you are worried about the 'install' step just make sure to send them a single click VNC application. You might have to hunt for it on Windows, but they all comes like that on Mac
[21:46] <benzrf> huh
[21:47] <benzrf> Trying 109.226.15.122...
[21:47] <benzrf> telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: No route to host
[21:47] <geri> how can i test if my traffic is routed from eth2 to tap0? ...they are connected over a vbridge!
[21:47] <k1l> Bauer: benzrf i already told you its offtopic in here
[21:47] <benzrf> k1l: sorry
[21:47] <lakmuz> #svn is dead
[21:47] <lakmuz> :S
[21:47] <reisio> smaudet: yes indeed
[21:48] <k1l> lakmuz: did you read the link i got you?
[21:48] <benzrf> lakmuz: that's because svn is silly
[21:48] <benzrf> lakmuz: why would you use a centralized vcs
[21:49] <lakmuz> k1l: asked about bug in windows) got out of memory crash after add file to repo and commit it in windows and cygwin too ;D
[21:49] <smaudet> Cheery: I'd recommend UltraVNC on Windows, or TightVNC, ChickenoftheVNC on mac
[21:50] <reisio> I recommend tigervnc for any
[21:50] <smaudet> Cheery: vinagre on linux
[21:50] <reisio> Ubuntu comes with a VNC server, IIRC
[21:50] <smaudet> reisio: tightvnc comes on linux/windows, but doesn't play well with mac
[21:51] <reisio> smaudet: so?
[21:51] <smaudet> reisio: and I'd trust a native implementation on linux more; as for ultravnc, it has by far been my best experience with vnc on windows
[21:51] <reisio> not sure why you're telling me this :)
[21:52] <smaudet> reisio: there are always the java vnc apps if you want cross platform
[21:52] <reisio> ...
[21:52] <smaudet> reisio: there's nothing wrong with java (I'm not talking about applets).
[21:53] <reisio> keep talking, don't mind my lack of participation :p
[21:53] <smaudet> reisio: you just participated; twice; re my mention; I'm just explaining the reasoning for my recommendations.
[21:54] <reisio> just don't see why you think I'd be interested...
[21:57] <akinanub> anyone able to fix this overheating mac with ubuntu problem?
[21:58] <kingnick42> I've got this new mouse - http://dx.com/p/r-horse-rh-3200-usb-wired-800-1600-2400-3200dpi-gaming-optical-mouse-black-golden-190cm-cable-133967
[21:58] <kingnick42> The left and right click buttons work fine, as does the middle click. Can't find a way to configure the other three buttons, and, most annoyingly, the scrollwheel doesn't work. Any ideas?
[21:58] <kingnick42> running xev in the terminal, the side buttons have numbers assigned, the scrollwheel doesn't
[21:58] <kingnick42> any ideas?
[21:58] <arooni-mobile> whats the best chat client for integrating with facebook?
[21:59] <arooni-mobile> whats the best way to send/receive facebook messages through a client on ubuntu?  i hate having to talk through a browser tab
[22:10] <g0twig> does launchpad accept lintian overrides for PPA packages
[22:11] <snthtns> I just rebooted after an nvidia update and now X won't boot, thanks for the mess
[22:11] <Haymaker> is this thing working?
[22:11] <Haymaker> Sorry
[22:11] <Haymaker> never mind
[22:11] <k1l> snthtns: were there errors?
[22:12] <trism> g0twig: I don't think launchpad runs lintian on the package, maybe ask in #launchpad
[22:12] <k1l> snthtns: and where was the driver from you installed?
[22:12] <snthtns> k1l: driver update screws up
[22:12] <snthtns> it was from update-manager
[22:12] <g0twig> trism: of yourse they do
[22:12] <snthtns> updated, rebooted, X won't start
[22:12] <g0twig> trism: and when your package does not pass certain warnings, lp does not accept it
[22:12] <[Gentoo]> snthtns: paste /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[22:12] <snthtns> did nothing out of the ordinary, have been running this for years now
[22:13] <g0twig> #launchpad is in general a very lonely place
[22:13] <Dr_Willis> kingnick42:  check the archlinux wiki pages - they often have very good info on setting up unusual hardware
[22:13] <k1l> snthtns: get the syslog, apt-log and the .xsession-errors to a pastebin, please
[22:13] <kingnick42> Dr_Willis, thanks
[22:13] <snthtns> the Xorg log is right after I tried to fix it with nvidia-xconfig
[22:13] <snthtns> so its not much use
[22:13] <snthtns> and I dont really have a web browser
[22:13] <snthtns> maybe lynx
[22:13] <johnrb> hey guys, I am kind of new to the UNIX world (less than 2yrs) and learning stuff everyday and wanted to run something by more experienced users, I am running Ubuntu sever 13.04, with Ubuntu-desktop on top of it, and have a HighPoint SAS RAID card installed that uses a web based management system named hptsvr. Now i would have to run "# hptsvr" after logging in, then open the web page. Instead i installed "@reboot
[22:13] <johnrb> /usr/bin/hptsvr"  to roots crontab and it works fine. Is there any reason I should not due that and use another way?
[22:13] <[Gentoo]> use wgetpaste or something
[22:13] <k1l> snthtns: use pastebinit
[22:14] <k1l> !pastebinit | snthtns
[22:14] <snthtns> I dont need to paste these errors
[22:14] <snthtns> How can I recover what I used to have?
[22:14] <k1l> snthtns: if you dont want help stop ranting in here.
[22:14] <[Gentoo]> why you asking for help then
[22:14] <trism> g0twig: it does reject if it can't unpack the package but I've never seen it reject for lintian stuff, what are you getting rejected on?
[22:14] <[Gentoo]> snthtns: modprobe nvidia work?
[22:14] <snthtns> let me try
[22:14] <g0twig> trism: my package is not ready yet, we chat on #launchpad
[22:15] <snthtns> [Gentoo]: yes
[22:15] <snthtns> no errors
[22:15] <[Gentoo]> snthtns: just paste the logs
[22:15] <snthtns> there were also kernel headers/images installed
[22:15] <[Gentoo]> with a pasting program
[22:15] <snthtns> I dont have the logs
[22:15] <[Gentoo]> ls -a /var/log there will be lots in there
[22:15] <snthtns> I tried to fix it with nvidia-xconfig
[22:15] <snthtns> and those logs arent useful
[22:16] <[Gentoo]> did you move the new xorg.conf?
[22:16] <k1l> snthtns: does the headers match the kernel?
[22:16] <[Gentoo]> as it doesnt move it by default
[22:16] <snthtns> new x0rg.conf is basic
[22:16] <Dr_Willis> i dont even need an xorg.conf for my nvidia setup in most cases
[22:16] <snthtns> I dont think its used
[22:16] <reisio> it is if it is, and not if it isn't :)
[22:16] <[Gentoo]> for nouveau you dont but nvidia most of the time you need one
[22:16] <snthtns> all I have are consoles
[22:17] <Dr_Willis> I definatly have not needed an xorg.conf for  my nvidia drivers
[22:17] <Dr_Willis> only time i have one is when i enable twinview or do other tweaks
[22:17] <k1l> if we could see some logs there would be no need to search in the dark
[22:17] <Dr_Willis> at least not since 12.10 or so ;)
[22:17] <snthtns> I suppose I will download a system recsue cd
[22:17] <Johnny_Linux> my toaster has twin view
[22:17] <[Gentoo]> well nvidia-xconfig wont hurt
[22:17] <snthtns> k1l: I don't have the logs man
[22:17] <k1l> Johnny_Linux: i thought we had an agreement on the nonsense
[22:17] <[Gentoo]> should generate a good basic config
[22:17] <snthtns> they are useless
[22:18] <Johnny_Linux> okok k1l
[22:18] <k1l> snthtns: you dont have them? or do you think they are useless?
[22:18] <snthtns> says unknown screen
[22:18] <k1l> snthtns: just hand them over so we can decide if its useless or not.
[22:18] <snthtns> I have them, but its after I modified my X0rg.conf
[22:18] <snthtns> How the hell do I upload them from a console
[22:18] <Dr_Willis> via the pastebinit command snthtns
[22:18] <k1l> !pastebinit | snthtns
[22:19] <snthtns> I cant even cut and paste
[22:19] <johnrb> LOL
[22:19] <Dr_Willis> pastebinit  filename
[22:19] <snthtns> yeah, then you search that site for the post?
[22:19] <johnrb> comical watching this
[22:19] <Dr_Willis> command to show the info | pastebinit
[22:19] <k1l> snthtns: if you would listen to what people tell you instead of ranting and playing  mr. "i know everything" then people could actually help you
[22:19] <snthtns> suck a cock
[22:19] <Johnny_Linux> sheesh
[22:20] <[Gentoo]> runs away all giddy
[22:20] <Dr_Willis> id start with NO xorg.conf file and then check those logs.. but what do i know.. ive only used nvidia for like decades
[22:20] <k1l> *sigh*
[22:20]  * Dr_Willis closes the ticket
[22:21] <smaudet> ...snthtns:   echo "language please" | pastebinit
[22:21] <k1l> lets move on.
[22:21] <johnrb> im gonna repeat my msg because i sent it in the middle of all that ignorance dont yell
[22:21] <johnrb> hey guys, I am kind of new to the UNIX world (less than 2yrs) and learning stuff everyday and wanted to run something by more experienced users, I am running Ubuntu sever 13.04, with Ubuntu-desktop on top of it, and have a HighPoint SAS RAID card installed that uses a web based management system named hptsvr. Now i would have to run "# hptsvr" after logging in, then open the web page. Instead i installed "@reboot
[22:21] <johnrb> /usr/bin/hptsvr" to roots crontab and it works fine. Is there any reason I should not due that and use another way?
[22:22] <smaudet> echo "better example" | pastebinit | xclip -selection clipboard
[22:22] <Haymaker> Since I installed Ubuntu 13.04 my battery only get half charged no matter how long I leave computer plugged-in.  any idea how to fix this?
[22:22] <holstein> ubuntuserver *is* ubuntu.. so if you have added a desktop, you basically have ubuntu now
[22:22] <reisio> Haymaker: how are you determining that?
[22:22] <[Gentoo]> johnrb: if it needs to be run once use a local script
[22:22] <holstein> Haymaker: graphics drivers, maybe.. or many not at all ...if you are comparing to a supported operating system
[22:22] <Haymaker> battery status
[22:23] <johnrb> it needs to be run once at startup
[22:23] <johnrb> by root
[22:23] <[Gentoo]> johnrb: rc.local is better way than cron for that
[22:23] <smaudet> Haymaker: 1) check that your battery charge capacity hasn't gone down 2) turn off all visual effects 3) use up-to-date graphics drivers
[22:23] <k1l> Haymaker: old batteries cant get to full charge. so its a regular progress for batteries to take less charge while getting older
[22:23] <Haymaker> this is a new computer
[22:24] <johnrb> [Gentoo]: so shouldnt use a crontab? I was having issue using rc.local not sure why.
[22:24] <smaudet> Haymaker: how new?
[22:24] <Haymaker> 6 months
[22:24] <smaudet> That sounds reasonable
[22:24] <smaudet> Your battery could be going.
[22:24] <akinanub> so im the only one with a mac overheating on ubuntu?
[22:24] <[Gentoo]> johnrb: well rc.local is for scripts running at boot, if your way is working then no point changing it
[22:24] <holstein> akinanub: same thing as above.. graphics drivers might help
[22:24] <smaudet> macbook air's battery dies in...what, a year?
[22:25] <smaudet> So in half a year easy, battery could have degraded
[22:25] <akinanub> no i already tried that, I start up from efi too but it still gets a little hotter on ubuntu then osx
[22:25] <reisio> anyways, I'd check something other than the GUI you're looking at
[22:26] <johnrb> [Gentoo]:  ok i wanted to know if there was a downside i didnt know about, I had it in rc.local but for some reason it was not working and cron was the only other thing I could think of
[22:26] <johnrb> [Gentoo]: ty
[22:26] <Haymaker> thanks
[22:26] <[Gentoo]> johnrb: make sure theres no typos in it, but rc.local is what i would use
[22:27] <xyz123> how do you go about backing-up Samba users and passwords?
[22:27] <holstein> akinanub: osx is what the vendor officially supports.. you should expect "compromises"
[22:28] <johnrb> [Gentoo]: I'll try it again, its in my env/var so I should just have to add "hptsvr" to rc.local correct? Or is that a newbie mistake and the reason it was not working in rc.local
[22:29] <akinanub> damn, i like linux so much more but im worried itll hurt the battery runnng it for  too long
[22:29] <Dr_Willis> rc.local is ran as root at boot time..  If you want to set a variable for the USER - you need to do it in their bash configs. NOT rc.local
[22:29] <[Gentoo]> johnrb: make a script and chmod +x it, and put the path to the script in the rc.local file
[22:29] <holstein> !language
[22:29] <holstein> akinanub: no need to be "worried".. try other drivers, and see if you can get better support
[22:29] <Dr_Willis>  there are the /etc/bash.bashrc  and other bash config files to put in settings for system variables and so forth for the users shells
[22:30] <cofffeebean>   " linux will or can ruin a battery " ??..
[22:30] <akinanub> oh no way, this is a real thing?
[22:30] <Dr_Willis> cofffeebean:  useing a battery can ruin a battery. from my experience
[22:30] <johnrb> [Gentoo]: I did, and it was +x but i added "hptsvr" not "/usr/bin/hptsvr"
[22:30] <holstein> akinanub: on my macbook, it gets hotter,the battery life is shorter, and the webcam doesnt work.. but i still prefer, and accept the compromise
[22:30] <johnrb> tnx again glad i asked
[22:30] <akinanub> im just worried cuz it voids the warranty and they wont replace the battery if it dies cuz of linux heh
[22:30] <holstein> akinanub: you can always let the vendor know you are having issues with the hardware in the operating system you are choosing to run
[22:31] <holstein> akinanub: you could void a warranty changing OS's
[22:31] <reisio> akinanub: that's why you make a dd backup first ;)
[22:31] <smaudet> Haymaker: http://www.ifweassume.com/2013/08/the-de-evolution-of-my-laptop-battery.html?bg <-- reference for the macbook air
[22:31] <Dr_Willis> HW makers dont support the linux devs and dont supply info. so the kernel makers and other devs cant use the various power saveing tricks that are used by OS-X or Windows
[22:31] <cofffeebean>   dr  wear one out in time  yeah !  that goes with everything tho..
[22:31] <akinanub> oh true, i can back it up, restore it, and send it in
[22:31] <akinanub> ok ill try different drivers for now
[22:32] <Dr_Willis> i alwyas get a new laptop hd when i buy a new laptop. :) and keep the windows HD on a shelf..  and then use the shiny new HD (hopefully a SSD) for my Laptop-linux setup
[22:32] <Dr_Willis> bbl
[22:34] <smaudet> One would think we'd have enough RE's to figure out what those tricks are. But I suppose they're buried in Windows kernel code somewhere.
[22:35] <Johnny_Linux> if you dont really need speed, a 16g usb stick with ubuntu on it runs excellent
[22:35] <Johnny_Linux> a usb runs 1/2 the speed as an ide
[22:37] <Johnny_Linux> or an sd card even
[22:37] <Johnny_Linux> very portable
[22:37] <akinanub> is there a task manager for linux i can open with terminal
[22:38] <Johnny_Linux> system monitor
[22:38] <reisio> akinanub: a GUI one, or not?
[22:38] <akinanub> system monitor works
[22:40] <akinanub> this cant be right.... everything  is at 0% but the system monitor, and that is fluctuating between 4 and 30% cpu usage
[22:40] <Johnny_Linux> try top
[22:40] <Johnny_Linux> in terminal
[22:40] <holstein> akinanub: that can be right...
[22:40] <akinanub> really?
[22:40] <akinanub> ubuntu is this efficient?
[22:40] <holstein> akinanub: its not ubuntu, friend.. its more than that
[22:41] <holstein> akinanub: its driver support.. and what exactly you are doing on the machine
[22:41] <Freeder> Is there a way, when using useradd with -m, to create a homedir that is totally blank, as opposed to having .profile, .bashrc, the desktop graphic, etc, created automatically?
[22:41] <reisio> Freeder: could just rm that afterwards
[22:41] <holstein> akinanub: mine are reading at around 10% now, but i am using the machine..
[22:41] <akinanub> so i am
[22:41] <akinanub> im watching video
[22:41] <Freeder> well yes, I could obviously, but thats not what I asked :)
[22:41] <akinanub> coding
[22:42] <akinanub> talking to you guys
[22:42] <akinanub> and on system monitor
[22:42] <holstein> akinanub: then, why do you think it should be less than 30%?
[22:42] <reisio> Freeder: indeed, not exactly :)
[22:42] <akinanub> because only system monitor is taking 30%
[22:42] <akinanub> and every other program is at 0%
[22:42] <Johnny_Linux> top
[22:42] <reisio> Freeder: -k maybe?
[22:42] <holstein> akinanub: that is different.. and how did top work?
[22:42] <akinanub> ya top wors
[22:43] <reisio> Freeder: or SKEL=nonsense useradd
[22:43] <Johnny_Linux> if you want colors, install htop
[22:43] <Johnny_Linux> ntop
[22:43] <Freeder> reisio: yes, that does look like it may be the answer
[22:43] <Johnny_Linux> h
[22:44] <Freeder> this is for a guide for noobs, so I dont want to have a lot of commands in it though
[22:45] <reisio> Freeder: no explanation required :p
[22:45] <Freeder> yeah, i think thats the answer I'm looking for. Not quite what I wanted, but its the answer. Ok, thank you
[22:45] <akinanub> root user is taking 27%, i assume that means everything i am doing right now is 27% total?
[22:45] <reisio> Freeder: what did you want?
[22:46] <Freeder> -<something> that created the blank dir, w/o having to set SKEL
[22:46] <Freeder> think it will be easier to just have them mkdir it
[22:47] <reisio> Freeder: easier than -k /dev/null ?
[22:47] <reisio> more straightfoward, perhaps, dunno about easier
[22:47] <reisio> Freeder: what's the use with no skel files for, exactly?
[22:48] <aguitel> how configure epson cx5600 scanner in ubuntu?
[22:48] <Freeder> like i said, for noobs to use to set up an environment for some code
[22:48] <ayashi> ok I installed a software and its not finding (karnel header 3.8.0-29-generic). that version of karnel is already installed. but software can't find its location
[22:48] <Freeder> just dont want to have a bunch of wierd looking stuff in there
[22:48] <ayashi> what am i supposed to do
[22:49] <reisio> Freeder: for some code?
[22:50] <ayashi> !karnel header 3.8.0-29-generic |sam__
[22:50] <reisio> heh
[22:53] <ayashi> !moblock |sam__
[22:53] <smaudet> Freeder: Just make sure to do all your config in the system prefs, you should be ok.
[22:53] <ayashi> !karnel header 3.8.0-29-generic |sam__
[22:54] <ayashi> why isn't the bot answering me  :(
[22:54] <smaudet> Although if they install python/nodejs directories things could get cluttered I suppose
[22:57] <svetter> where can I contact a canonical admin? is there anyone on irc, web form or email address?
[22:57] <reisio> for what?
[22:58] <svetter> point them to a DNS configuration issue
[22:58] <syntnys> thanks for nothing, restored my box without any problems, kernel update fucked up the nvidia binary
[22:58] <syntnys> typical ubuntu
[22:58] <syntnys> nice test/release system
[22:59] <osubuntu> hi
[22:59] <osubuntu> nice test/release system?
[22:59] <mathfreak> hello osubuntu
[22:59] <reisio> hello
[23:00] <osubuntu> but is there any way to make the top and bottom side of compiz desktop cube a screen?
[23:00] <reisio> a desktop?
[23:00] <reisio> pretty sure
[23:00] <osubuntu> yeah desktop cube
[23:00] <reisio> go into desktop/workspace prefs
[23:00] <osubuntu> compiz only supports setting colors of the top and bottom side of the cube...
[23:00] <osubuntu> what happend?
[23:02] <quietone> the installer isn't detecting Vista and I want to dual boot
[23:02] <reisio> quietone: what makes you think it isn't detecting it?
[23:02] <osubuntu> quietone, than manually add a boot entry
[23:02] <osubuntu> or just exit GRUB and it would boot to Vista
[23:02] <osubuntu> since Windows also have a bootloader
[23:03] <osubuntu> at GRUB, press c and enter exit and the bootloader switches!
[23:03] <quietone> The partition disks screen don't show it. I am using ubuntu-alternate
[23:03] <reisio> quietone: screenshot?
[23:03] <osubuntu> quietone, what is your partiton type?
[23:03] <osubuntu> gpt? msdos?
[23:03] <OerHeks> quietone, vvista on a Sata hdd in IDE mode?
[23:03] <osubuntu> (I have a gpt hard drive with working Windows 8)
[23:04] <osubuntu> and Ubuntu
[23:04] <quietone> reisio, I don't know how to get a screenshot for you
[23:04] <osubuntu> Of course, Print Screen!
[23:04] <quietone> osubuntu, I don't know the partition type. It is just a Vista box to me
[23:04] <mathfreak> osubuntu: I think with the alternate installer, that function is not available.
[23:04] <osubuntu> quietone, run gparted
[23:04] <ayashi> there used to be people who help in this chanel.
[23:05] <osubuntu> but do not press Alt + Print Screen + c.... it crashes the kernel
[23:05] <osubuntu> but Alt + Print Screen + s is okay :P
[23:06] <mathfreak> osubuntu, quietone: I don't think the alternate installer is meant to automatically partition the hard drive for Windows and Linux dual-boot. The regular installers do that, but I don't recall the alternate installers having the same feature.
[23:06] <quietone> mathfreak, thx.
[23:07] <osubuntu> why alternative installer? just use regular installers, and WUBI doesnt work in my computer since mine is UEFI...
[23:07] <mathfreak> The alternate installers are more suited for features that most people usually don't use (e.g. LVM, encrypted partitions, etc)
[23:07] <quietone> mathfreak, I want to run LTSP on that machine, but it needs to dual boot for a while
[23:08] <osubuntu> btw what is 'alternative installer'?
[23:08] <reisio> osubuntu: it's minimal now, I think
[23:08] <reisio> osubuntu: it doesn't load as much, so it's more likely to work
[23:08] <reisio> but it also doesn't load as much :)
[23:08] <osubuntu> hmm... I used ISO to install Ubuntu..
[23:08] <osubuntu> Is it a 'regular expression'?
[23:08] <osubuntu> oh sorry
[23:08] <osubuntu> regular installer
[23:08] <quietone> anyone know if I can use the desktop install and then install LTSP?
[23:09] <quietone> last time I tried that for 10.04 it didn't work. I had to use alternative install
[23:09] <mathfreak> quietone: I think you can do that. You can use the regular installer to create the partitions for Windows and Linux
[23:09] <reisio> osubuntu: there is a regular one, it isn't called that explicitly, though :)
[23:09] <quietone> mathfreak, yes, I need the installed to do the partitioning
[23:10] <reisio> quietone: I'm sure you could, but you can no doubt also use the "alternative"
[23:10] <reisio> I lost track of the problem... can't find Vista?
[23:10] <mathfreak> quietone: I don't have experience with LTSP (so take this with a grain of salt), but it's just a package from the repos you can install to set up what you need, right?
[23:10] <osubuntu> reisio, thx
[23:10] <osubuntu> btw regualr expression was not joke...
[23:10] <ironfoot495> mladoux: are you buzy?
[23:10] <quietone> mathfreak, looks like I will have to try that.
[23:11] <quietone> mathfreak, thank you for your time
[23:11] <mathfreak> quietone: You're welcome
[23:18] <iampoz> linux-headers-3.5.0-40 is causing my computer to not boot into unity
[23:18] <iampoz> anyone else have this problem?
[23:18] <iampoz> I also get some error about the main drive not mounting on the splash screen, but this is a hit and miss
[23:20] <iampoz> anyone here?
[23:21] <bekks> iampoz: several hundreds of people.
[23:21] <bekks> !anyone | iampoz
[23:21] <iampoz> This is the first time in a long time that updates have been so unstable... I am not sure what the deal is
[23:22] <iampoz> I did bekks... it was this: linux-headers-3.5.0-40 is causing my computer to not boot into unity; anyone else have this problem?
[23:23] <osubuntu> echo abc
[23:23] <osubuntu> !echo abc
[23:24] <iampoz> I have been updating by component one by one until my computer stops booting, then restoring with clonezilla and trying again but skipping the update that caused the problem
[23:24] <bekks> iampoz: linux-headers is not causing it. the package contains just a lot of header files which are not even necessary to boot.
[23:24] <bekks> iampoz: Most likely, the linux-image package is causing the problems due to a broken graphics driver.
[23:25] <iampoz> eventually I released that sometimes when I select an update, the ... I stopped becuase what you said makes more sense
[23:26] <iampoz> okay, well some how the linux-image package is getting selected when I try to install certain components... I thought it was the headers, but perhaps the image is being installed as well
[23:27] <iampoz> so how can I fix the broken graphics driver once I update?
[23:28] <iampoz> OR prevent the graphics driver from braking to begin with
[23:30] <iampoz> As I am relatively new to ubuntu, can anyone inform me of how often updates are unstable? and if they are eventually fixed?
[23:31] <iampoz> ?
[23:31] <mathfreak> iampoz: Which version of Ubuntu are you running? What video driver are you installing?
[23:31] <Eduard_Munteanu> Hi. Does Ubuntu provide *verifiable* signatures for downloads?
[23:31] <iampoz> 12.04 lts
[23:32] <mathfreak> iampoz: What happens at boot? You said something about the hard drive not getting mounted. Do you remember what the screen says exactly?
[23:33] <dni> hello all,. can someone help me out with an issue im having please..  im trying to build a source which seems to be dependent on kernel-headers,.. so i've apt-get'd linux-headers-2.6.32-38,linux-headers-2.6.32-38-generic, linux-headers-generic ??   but the build directory seems to be missing from /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.32-38-generic/source -> /build/buildd/linux-2.6.32
[23:33] <Eduard_Munteanu> By verifiable I mean either checksums downloadable over a secure channel or some other kind of signature, not just a checksum on a http server.
[23:33] <mathfreak> Eduard_Munteanu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto
[23:33] <osubuntu> why is ppl good at computer called greek?
[23:33] <iampoz> Nvidia has some updates... not sure what the driver is that is being installed or that I have installed.
[23:33] <osubuntu> isnt it geek
[23:34] <mathfreak> osubuntu: You might want to try #ubuntu-offtopic for those sorts of topics.
[23:34] <osubuntu> mathfreak, thx
[23:34] <iampoz> The screen says somthing about /tmp not being mounted and that I can press S to skip or M to manually mount (I think manually mount, but I am not sure, manually somthing anyways)
[23:34] <Eduard_Munteanu> mathfreak: hm... that links to a http-only checksum file
[23:35] <OerHeks> Eduard_Munteanu, setup pgp with ubuntu https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GnuPrivacyGuardHowto
[23:35] <OerHeks> *ubuntu servers
[23:36] <mathfreak> Eduard_Munteanu: Ah, sorry. This one should offer a more complete list. Signatures are passed along with the hashes.
[23:36] <mathfreak> Eduard_Munteanu: http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/
[23:36] <Eduard_Munteanu> OerHeks: ok, but where do I check fingerprints?
[23:36] <OerHeks> Eduard_Munteanu, same pages, they appear to be https then
[23:37] <iampoz> maybe if I put a list of all the available updates I have, it will be easyer to identify my problem? how to do that?
[23:37] <Eduard_Munteanu> Um, is there an *official* https-hosted fingerprint?
[23:38] <WallFace> How do I install Nero if it's in a zip?
[23:38] <Eduard_Munteanu> I mean it's rather useless to get a random key off a keyserver.
[23:38] <WallFace> I'm unfamiliar with the codes of Ubuntu 10.04
[23:39] <jrib> !checksums | Eduard_Munteanu
[23:39] <mathfreak> Eduard_Munteanu: Well, if you want ultimate security, you have to meet with the people that own the key in person. There is always a risk when you have to get a key online.
[23:39] <jrib> !md5sums | Eduard_Munteanu
[23:40] <Eduard_Munteanu> mathfreak: that's "basic" security in my book :)
[23:40] <mathfreak> Eduard_Munteanu: I think you're stuck then.
[23:40] <reisio> WallFace: probably have to unzip it first
[23:41] <reisio> WallFace: but I wouldn't bother, there are other apps that you can install normally
[23:41] <WallFace> reisio: unsure of how to do that
[23:41] <Jeruvy> WallFace The download I'm looking at is a rpm, not a zip.  Where did you get it and are you sure its the linux version.
[23:41] <Eduard_Munteanu> jrib: thanks. Is that page locked from editing?
[23:41] <jrib> Eduard_Munteanu: no.
[23:41] <reisio> WallFace: you can double-click it from the file manager, or use 'unzip' from a terminal
[23:41] <WallFace> It's Nero Linux in zip
[23:41] <WallFace> it's a friends copy
[23:41] <iampoz> sooo I guess I should not do any updates?
[23:41] <mathfreak> iampoz: What happens when you press 'S' to skip mounting?
[23:41] <WallFace> Once I double click it goes to rb and other stuff
[23:42] <iampoz> takes me to a command prompt to log in
[23:42] <reisio> WallFace: rb?
[23:42] <jrib> Eduard_Munteanu: or maybe it is.
[23:42] <Eduard_Munteanu> I don't know, how hard is it to provide reasonable checksums on https?
[23:42] <jrib> Eduard_Munteanu: not sure :)
[23:42] <Eduard_Munteanu> (not to mention md5sums are rather poor)
[23:42] <WallFace> deb, rpm,
[23:42] <mathfreak> iampoz: Okay, go ahead and log in through the command line.
[23:42] <WallFace> reisio deb rpm, those are the 2 folders I see
[23:42] <iampoz> I did
[23:43] <jrib> Eduard_Munteanu: yeah, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes is locked
[23:43] <reisio> WallFace: Ubuntu is Debian based
[23:43] <iampoz> everything works aside from any graphics
[23:43] <reisio> WallFace: I suggest installing brasero or k3b from software center instead, though
[23:43] <Eduard_Munteanu> h.
[23:43] <Eduard_Munteanu> *Ah.
[23:43] <WallFace> A movie file I tried to put on a dvd
[23:43] <WallFace> it didn't wor
[23:44] <WallFace> work
[23:44] <jrib> Eduard_Munteanu: also see the *SUMS files here: http://releases.ubuntu.com/13.04/
[23:44] <WallFace> reisio:
[23:44] <WallFace> I got it man
[23:44] <mathfreak> iampoz: Do you have the packages for Unity installed?
[23:44] <reisio> WallFace: what didn't work?
[23:44] <WallFace> my common sense
[23:45] <Eduard_Munteanu> jrib: I see... unfortunately unless I can get a fingerprint for those .gpg files, the SUMS files are rather useless since it doesn't support https.
[23:45] <mathfreak> iampoz: You can check by typing 'apt-cache show unity'
[23:45] <iampoz> yes, unless the updates somehow uninstall any unity packages currently installed
[23:46] <jrib> Eduard_Munteanu: presumably the key that you need to trust is available somewhere.  I don't know where.
[23:46] <iampoz> http://pastebin.com/S9s1vzQx
[23:48] <WallFace> Wanted to thank you reisio for your help
[23:48] <mathfreak> iampoz: Sorry about this. I meant 'aptitude show unity'
[23:48] <reisio> WallFace: :)
[23:48] <WallFace> Quick question to eveyone, is there a way to turn mp4 or other file formats to ISO?
[23:48] <iampoz> its okay, I appreciate your help
[23:48] <reisio> WallFace: to DVD-Video?
[23:49] <WallFace> yea
[23:49] <reisio> WallFace: nope
[23:49] <jrib> Eduard_Munteanu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto tells you the key you need to trust
[23:49] <reisio> WallFace: dvd-video is an ancient format
[23:49] <reisio> WallFace: you have to re-encode the mp4 to the antiquated mpeg-2
[23:49] <reisio> and do other black magicks
[23:49] <WallFace> shiet
[23:49] <reisio> I highly recommend not wasting your time on it, get something that can play video files off a usb stcik
[23:49] <WallFace> I want to put this on a dvd player
[23:49] <WallFace> I might have to resort to Windows...
[23:50] <reisio> I know, but you should consider replacing your dvd player with a smart tv or computer
[23:50] <c2tarun> Hi friends, I installed chromium on my Ubuntu 12.04. It somehow activated some keyring password. Now everytime I login into my machine I have to enter that keyring password. What is it? and how can I disable it?
[23:50] <Eduard_Munteanu> jrib: I read through that... I might as well not check a checksum because they suggest getting them through unsecure channels.
[23:50] <reisio> it'll save you massive amounts of time and heartbreak
[23:50] <WallFace> Yea
[23:50] <iampoz> mathfreak: http://pastebin.com/YDs59znS
[23:50] <jrib> Eduard_Munteanu: suggest getting what through insecure channels?
[23:50] <mathfreak> Eduard_Munteanu: How do you normally get your keys?
[23:51] <Eduard_Munteanu> jrib: the checksum, signatures and keys
[23:51] <Eduard_Munteanu> mathfreak: normally you get a checksum over https, unless you have a rather solid web of trust.
[23:51] <jrib> Eduard_Munteanu: well all you need is to obtain the key securely, no?
[23:51] <Eduard_Munteanu> jrib: yep
[23:51] <jrib> Eduard_Munteanu: does gpg not do that (I don't know)?
[23:52] <Eduard_Munteanu> jrib: no
[23:52] <WallFace> Thanks again reisio
[23:52] <mathfreak> iampoz: Can you run 'aptitude show lightdm'?
[23:52] <jrib> Eduard_Munteanu: ok.  Suppose it does.  Why should you trust the key anyway?
[23:53] <Eduard_Munteanu> jrib: I trust that Ubuntu signed the download, that's all.
[23:53] <Eduard_Munteanu> That's all a secure signature says.
[23:53] <jrib> Eduard_Munteanu: I don't see why.
[23:53] <mathfreak> Eduard_Munteanu: Would you be happy if we shared with you the fingerprint of the cdimage@ubuntu.com key that we already have from the CD?
[23:53] <jrib> Eduard_Munteanu: you don't know that the key is from ubuntu
[23:53] <mathfreak> Eduard_Munteanu: That way when you download the key off a keyserver, you can check the fingerprint
[23:53] <Eduard_Munteanu> jrib: if I obtained from https://www.ubuntu.com, I'm pretty sure
[23:53] <iampoz> mathfreak: http://pastebin.com/TFuGTaLa
[23:54] <jrib> Eduard_Munteanu: sure
[23:54] <Eduard_Munteanu> mathfreak: against what? A plain http page?
[23:54] <jrib> Eduard_Munteanu: I thought we were supposing you grabbed the key securely from the random key server
[23:55] <Eduard_Munteanu> jrib: the keyserver can't really give me the key securely, unless some other signature proves it is authentic
[23:55] <Eduard_Munteanu> Either web of trust or HTTPS.
[23:55] <mathfreak> You can check the fingerprint of the key from the keyserver using gpg. We can share with you the fingerprint of the key that's on our own machines (although this still leaves a hole, in that you can't really trust us over IRC)
[23:55] <jrib> Eduard_Munteanu: right, that's what I was trying to get at.  But we were thinking of different hypotheticals :P
[23:56] <Eduard_Munteanu> mathfreak: I know, but the point still remains :)
[23:56] <Eduard_Munteanu> It's pretty easy to publish the damn key on https. :)
[23:56] <jrib> Eduard_Munteanu: you could open up a bug (there's a note about editing that wiki page with the hashes in the footer; start there), and see what the response is
[23:56] <Eduard_Munteanu> Ah.
[23:57] <jrib> Eduard_Munteanu: though you did get secured md5sums
[23:57] <mathfreak> iampoz: What happens when you try to run 'lightdm'?
[23:57] <Eduard_Munteanu> Sorry if I'm a bit edgy but I had the same conversation on Debian, and someone explained the archive keys on https that sign a deb that sign a bazillion other thing that then sign a CD release key that then signs my ISO. WTF. :)
[23:58] <iampoz> it starts loading a bunch of stuff, most say [OK]
[23:58] <Eduard_Munteanu> jrib: sort of :)
[23:58] <jrib> Eduard_Munteanu: why do you say that?
[23:58] <iampoz> it just stops at some point and does not do anything...
[23:58] <Eduard_Munteanu> jrib: yeah, I was nitpicking at MD5 calling itself a checksum these days, but for most purposes it's ok.
[23:59] <jrib> Eduard_Munteanu: I see
[23:59] <iampoz> sometimes it stops on a screen and says somthing about "Starting load fallback graphics devices        [fail]"
[23:59] <jrib> Eduard_Munteanu: well the hashes, you received securely.  Whether they are of value...
[23:59] <dimitry7> Hello Guys! I have uninstalled open office but merely just erased it.... It is not in my system anymore but I still see it when I do # dpkg -l | grep openoffice
[23:59] <dimitry7> How can I do to delete it from dpkg installed packages list?
[23:59] <iampoz> not sure if it is consistent everytime