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LehthanisHeya, has anyone made an ubuntustudio ascii logo for motd?01:39
Unit193You could use the one from archey, though it isn't in the repos.01:42
Lehthaniswhats archey?01:46
wilee-nileearchlinux probably01:48
Unit193No, archey is a basic sysinfo tool.01:50
Unit193(Why would it be archlinux?  Doesn't make sense in context.)01:50
Unit193It outputs a color ascii Ubuntu logo.01:50
wilee-nileeUnit193, YOU said not in the repos.01:53
Unit193archlinux is an operating system.01:54
wilee-nileeclose enough context to say probably01:54
wilee-nileenot everyone here knows every single possible part of any OS, we are bound to make a mistake.01:55
Lehthaniswell if it's not in the repos, whats the best way to get it? andis it just an ubuntu logo or a studio logo?01:56
Unit193Sadly, Ubuntu only.01:58
LehthanisI'm trying to figure out how to get a motd to display in the first place on my .bashrc01:58
LehthanisI know I can put the ascii art in /etc/motd.static01:59
Unit193https://github.com/djmelik/archey  and cat /etc/motd ?01:59
Lehthanisthen I can sudo ln -s /etc/motd.static /etc/motd01:59
Unit193if [ -f /etc/motd ]; then cat /etc/motd;fi02:00
Lehthanisnice!  That's easy!02:01
Unit193You can pad it or change color too.02:02
Lehthanisdo I do that in the file itself?  using bash color codes?02:03
Unit193YELLOW='\e[1;33m'   and then you can call it in an echo -e statement.02:07
Unit193http://bodhizazen.net/Tutorials/envrc example.02:08
Lehthanisyou mean call the motd using an echo command instead of cat?02:11
=== HisaoNakai_ is now known as HisaoNakai
caodepalhahi everyone! i just downloaded the distrho plugins. how do i add them/install to use in ardour?08:46
cfhowlettcaodepalha, distro plugins?  what are you talking about?08:47
cubcfhowlett, seems to be https://github.com/falkTX/DISTRHO/issues/808:48
cfhowlettcub, thanks.  looking ...08:48
cubalso http://manual.ardour.org/working-with-plugins/getting-plugins/ there's a link. Never heard of it either..:)08:48
cubcaodepalha, have you tried the instructions on http://manual.ardour.org/working-with-plugins/getting-plugins/ ?08:49
cfhowlettcaodepalha, best you talk to the package maintainer as this stuff is not in the normal distro channel.08:49
cubAfter the plugins list there's a part on "How do I install plugins?"08:49
* cub becomes a bit concerned when the page has the download links saying "donwload"08:50
cfhowlettcub, yeah, I'd have to say that's a level 4 alarm...08:51
cubmaybe it's some 1337-speak I'm to old to understand. ;)08:52
cubit's falkTX stuff so should be good.08:52
caodepalhathanks cub as always08:53
cubcaodepalha, if you have a standard Ubuntu Studio installation you need to install p7zip08:54
caodepalhaalready have it08:55
caodepalha:908:55
caodepalha:)08:55
cubhmm no readme08:55
cubcaodepalha, I would use the LV2 folder and follow the instructions on the Ardour manual page above "LV2 plugins are folders/directories. They need to installed in either /usr/lib/lv2, /usr/local/lib/lv2 or a directory mentioned in your LV2_PATH environment variable."08:57
cubI can't test on this machine myself though.08:58
caodepalhai'll check it08:58
SakrecoerHi!12:24
SakrecoerI am installing 13.04 for the second time in my life on a brand new machine...12:24
Sakrecoerbut this time, it's not going well at all....12:25
SakrecoerIt wont detect my ethernet...12:25
Sakrecoerwhich i can live with for now...12:25
Sakrecoerbut i want to put it on the SSD, not the HDD...12:25
SakrecoerHDD is SDA, and SSD is SDB...12:26
Sakrecoerat the end of the installation i get fatal error: "couldn't install grub on SDA"...12:26
Sakrecoermy motherboard support both legacy and UEFI...12:27
Sakrecoeri'm using legacy....12:27
Sakrecoerit's the second time i install 13.04, but i have done this so many times on so many different computers (don't get me wrong: i would never dare call myself an expert)... i just don't get it12:28
Sakrecoercould it be that i have to invert my drives? and put the SSD on the SATA1, so that it becomes /dev/sda ?12:29
Sakrecoerwell.... yes... it seems to be like that.... installing on HDD just rendered freed from errors...12:30
Sakrecoercould there be some sort of hardcoded issue with the ubuntustudio live installer, forcing it to be on /dev/sda/ to succeed?12:32
cubSakrecoer, hang around for a while and I hope someone with more installation skills than me comes along.12:35
Sakrecoerthanks cub! :)12:35
cubAll my computers are too old to have such fancy stuff. ;)12:36
* smartboyhw has never used SSD or UEFI so can't help too, sorry12:36
Sakrecoertell me about it.... i worked my ass off a year and a half to get this super computer :D12:36
Sakrecoeroops sorry for that word ...12:37
Sakrecoeri'm just getting grey here...12:37
cubhehe12:37
zequenceI've installed on SSD without problems12:37
SakrecoerUEFI is not an issue i can do without... and SDD shouldn't much different... the thing is, grub installs if i run the ubuntu 13.04 live installer...12:38
zequencethis is on a ASUS netbook, that has two small ones12:38
Sakrecoerthis is why i'm thinking there is an issue with the ubuntustudio installer, that makes it impossible to install the system on /dev/sdb/12:38
zequenceThere's no problem installing it on any of the drives, generally12:39
zequenceand you can also choose on which drive to install GRUB12:39
zequencethe installer is not specific to Ubuntu Studio though12:39
zequencethe installer is a program called ubiquity, and is the same one that all flavors use on their live systems12:39
zequencejust with a few different settings and plugins involved12:39
Sakrecoeryeah... that my point zequence ... but if i try to put it on sdb it gives fatal error, also the possiblity to chose which drive to put grub on.... but the errors just repeats itself, regardless what i chose...12:40
zequencewell, Kubuntu has their own version of the installer I think..12:40
zequenceSakrecoer: I'd check out #ubuntu-installer12:40
Sakrecoerthanks!12:40
zequenceor ask on general installation ubuntu forums12:40
xnoxSakrecoer: enter manual partitioning, the drop down to select where to install grub is there.12:41
xnoxzequence: i have highlights on "ubiquity" ;-)12:41
zequencexnox: Are you a ubiquity developer? Yeah, I have a few alerts on myself on half of freenode basically :P12:42
smartboyhwLOL12:42
cubans Sakrecoer if you get a solution, please come back and post the solution. So for the next one we might know.12:42
* smartboyhw wonders what's on zequence's alert list12:43
zequencesmartboyhw: Just lowlatency and ubuntu studio basically12:43
xnoxzequence: yes, I am. I believe we also met in Switzerland?! =)12:43
zequencexnox: Oh, right. By the stone table :)12:43
xnoxzequence: correct.12:43
xnox=)12:43
* smartboyhw thinks of a stone table as spooky.12:43
Sakrecoeroh i will for sure!12:44
Sakrecoerespecially the hole ethernet issue... it seems to be common, but the sollution is totaly disparessed all over...12:44
* cub was hoping to see Hyuri do the same thing for his deleted Windows partition solution ...12:44
Sakrecoerso i'm trying manual partitioning...12:50
Sakrecoerand i'm getting unsure about the moint point....12:50
Sakrecoershould it be just "/" ?12:50
Sakrecoerhmm.... i see that none of the previous installation have a mount point...12:52
zequenceSakrecoer: "/" is for the entire file system. You need at least that, and it would be best also to include a SWAP partition - roughly twice the size of your RAM12:55
zequenceIf you want, you can also keep a separate "/home" partition, so you can keep files there between installs12:56
zequenceanother solution is to create a paritition, and manually name the mount point to something like "/data"12:56
zequence"/data" is not a Unix/linux filesystem type, but it will be mounted in /data. Then just change ownership to your user in that folder, and you can reuse it between installs12:57
zequenceEach time you make a new install, do not format that paritition. Only set it to use "Ext4" and manually write the mountpoint, for example "/data"12:58
zequenceOnly format it the first time, of course12:58
Sakrecoerok...12:58
Sakrecoeri would really like to have my  /home located on the HDD... in the scenario where my system is on the SSD...12:59
Sakrecoerbut i'm in total doubt in front of the manual partitioner.... i have there /dev/sda with only freespace (this is the HDD),  and then there is /dev/sdb, with /dev/sdb1 in ext4 with mountpoint /13:00
Sakrecoerand /dev/sdb5 swap with no mount point...13:01
Sakrecoernow... should grub go to /dev/sdb, or /dev/sdb1 ?13:01
Sakrecoeranother question is: should the type for the mount point /home be logical or primal?13:03
zequenceSakrecoer: What do you have on sda?13:04
zequenceDo you have a Windows boot loader on it?13:05
zequenceIf you do, that meanst GRUB will replace it13:05
zequenceIf you aren't worried about that, put GRUB onto /sda13:05
zequenceIf you want to keep the boot loader on /sda, put GRUB onto /sdb13:05
zequenceIf you put it onto /sdb1, that means it will be insider the partition only, not in the MBR13:06
zequencewhich means, you can't boot from it13:06
zequencenot without using another boot loader13:06
Sakrecoeraah!! i get it zequence!!13:06
zequenceYou can set your BIOS to boot from either drive13:06
zequenceSo, if you want, you can have one boot loader on each13:07
* Sakrecoer is considering asking "but what is windows?" :D13:07
Sakrecoerthanks a million!13:07
Sakrecoerit is much clearer now!13:07
SakrecoerYESS!!!!!!!!!! grub installed on /dev/sdb !!!!13:15
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smartboyhw\o/13:16
Sakrecoernow i need to solve the ethernet issue...13:16
Sakrecoer:)13:16
cubSakrecoer, yay13:16
Sakrecoerit seems to be recommended to use the partioner if you install on a machine with many operating drives...13:16
Sakrecoer:)13:16
holsteinwell, you either need a partitoner or not13:17
holsteinif you have already made partitions, then, you can just specify that the system use/format the ones you want to use13:17
Sakrecoeryeah... not sure i understand... but before i went pretty straight forward, and grub just wouldn't settle in /dev/sdb .... even when i picked it as drive for everything, including /home13:18
Sakrecoeraah ok,... now i see holstein :)13:18
holsteinif you dont want a "pretty straight forward" install, then it gets as complex as you want it to13:18
holsteingrub is assumed these days.. from all the installers13:19
holsteinat least AFAIK, it is13:19
Sakrecoermaybe i should say: " it seems to be recommended to chose to put the system on /dev/sda/ when doing the automatic formating...13:19
holstein!mini13:19
ubottuThe Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want.  The installer is text based (rather than graphical as used on the Desktop DVD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD13:19
holstein^^ you can use this, for that older "alternate cd" functionality.. which will install the OS and either not install grub, or ask where you want it to go13:19
holsteinthen, you can add whatever you like to it.. ubuntustudio packages or whatever13:20
zequenceSakrecoer: No, it should work putting it anyway. I often put it on something else than /sda, especially when installing to a usb stick13:20
holsteini think the rationale is, if you want something custom, you'll know how to get it..13:20
zequenceanywhere, I mean13:20
holsteini like to just put grub on the USB stick its self if im doing a USB stick install13:21
Sakrecoerhmm... it worked, but now i have a beutyfull terminal... no sight of desktop...13:21
holsteinSakrecoer: what did what?13:21
zequenceThe USB stick is usually not /sda, which is why you need to specify where GRUB goes specifically13:21
zequenceand putting it on sdb or sdc works just as well13:21
Sakrecoerholstein it looks like the server version...13:21
Sakrecoer:/13:21
holsteinSakrecoer: in what way *secifically*13:22
holsteinspecifically*13:22
holsteinah.. i gotta run..13:22
Sakrecoeri just get pushed into terminal... no desktop, no "interface"13:23
Sakrecoeron boot...13:23
holsteinsounds like you have installed something without X.. or have no graphics card support13:23
holsteinSakrecoer: i assure you, there *is* a desktop :)13:23
zequenceSakrecoer: You are sure this is Ubuntu Studio?13:23
holsteinSakrecoer: did you see it from the live CD?13:23
holsteinSakrecoer: did you get to a desktop from the live installer disc?13:23
Sakrecoermy bad... it seems i was booting from something else... probably need to go look at what i have done in the bios...13:23
Sakrecoeryes... its ubuntustudio... 13.04 .13:24
Sakrecoerubuntustudio is the hole reason behind me getting into this linux thing in the first place :D13:25
Sakrecoerit works great!!13:25
Sakrecoeri just had to reverse my boot order :D13:26
Sakrecoerhome is on HDD, and system is on SSD :)13:26
SakrecoerWITH a desktop heheh13:26
Sakrecoerthank you so much guys, girls and robots! :) i have learned alot from this!13:29
zequenceSakrecoer: Hope you have fun with it :)13:29
Sakrecoeroh i will!!!13:30
Sakrecoerbut first i need to understand how to "claim" my network device...13:31
Sakrecoerwell..... that was fun while it lasted.... now i got "error: file '/boot/grub/i386-pc/normal.mod' not found.13:40
Sakrecoerand "grub rescue>" waiting for me to do something i might regret... HAHAH13:40
Sakrecoeranyways.... i'm gonna go cry a little river over some food now... thanks a million for your helping hands!13:43
Sakrecoerok i didnt...13:52
Sakrecoerits insane.. started all over... it works fine on first boot...13:52
Sakrecoerthen i'm back in the desktop free version...13:53
Sakrecoerand yeah.. i changed the boot order to the adequate one...13:53
cubSakrecoer, do you get a ubuntu terminal?13:53
Sakrecoeryes...13:54
Sakrecoerbut now... at thirs boot... i got back to desktop...13:54
cubcan you log in there? And perhaps do 'startx'?13:54
cubAha so it intermittent? :/13:54
Sakrecoeryes random....13:54
cubcrap13:54
Sakrecoerthinking my machine might be not good :(13:54
Sakrecoeri will try startx next it happens..13:54
Sakrecoeri can login... terminal asks me for user and pass.. but go figure... 5th reboot and all fine....13:56
Sakrecoersorry for bugging your mind with mine.... :/ now i will eat.13:56
SakrecoerThanks again!13:56
cubgood luck, I hope you get it solved.13:56
Sakrecoerthanks!!!13:57
Sakrecoerbtw i really recommend SSD for system: the speed of start up is just insane!13:57
sirriffsalotHey guys! I've downloaded the 13.04 32-bit .iso image two times now, via torrent, and my md5sum has both times ended up being "9ef83c65f489ffd534b8bf95d4a652f0  ubuntustudio-13.04-dvd-i386.iso"15:40
sirriffsalotAnything I should know here, because the md5 on ubuntustudio.org is "6e7db5ffdb954a05545940a7bc18d00d"15:40
smartboyhwsirriffsalot: oh?15:42
sirriffsalotsmartboyhw: yes :(15:42
sirriffsalotsmartboyhw: http://ubuntustudio.org/download/ > md5-link15:43
smartboyhwsirriffsalot: hmm you have a corrupted download15:43
sirriffsalotsmartboyhw: I know that -.-15:43
sirriffsalotsmartboyhw: But I've downloaded it twice and I get the same erronious checksum! :(15:44
smartboyhwsirriffsalot: Try not to use torrent this time15:44
sirriffsalotI am.. takes longer :(15:44
sirriffsaloterroneous *15:44
OvenWerkstry zsync15:44
smartboyhwAnd zsync:)15:44
sirriffsalotWhat is that?15:44
smartboyhwsirriffsalot: zsync is a tool that downloads AND checks the sum for you:P15:45
OvenWerkszsync will only download parts that are not right and it will also check you checksum for you15:45
sirriffsalotOvenWerks, smartboyhw aha..15:45
OvenWerksyou will have to install zsync ( sudo apt-get install zsync )15:46
sirriffsalotDid so just now15:46
OvenWerksI don't have the link you need off the top of my head though15:47
OvenWerksI am not in a boot where I have all my links :)15:47
sirriffsalotWhy "sudo apt-get install zsync -y" anyway?15:48
smartboyhwsirriffsalot: -y will skip the step of you confirming the installation15:48
sirriffsalotAh, haha15:48
OvenWerks the -y should not be needed really.15:48
sirriffsalotHow do I use this program...? Can't work it out15:48
OvenWerksin the same directory as your downloaded ISO run zsync url_of_ISO.zsync15:49
sirriffsalotAh, found out :)15:50
sirriffsalotThis was pretty useful.. how come it isn't more apparent to people unless I come here with the issue I have?15:52
OvenWerksMost people aren't downloading a new ISO every day15:53
OvenWerksIt is great for keeping up with the daily builds15:53
sirriffsalotPerhaps a little * under the checksums at least, in case they fail repeatedly15:53
OvenWerksWe could do that in a wiki somewhere, but we don't have access to the download page itself.15:55
OvenWerks(if it is the one I am thinking of)15:55
sirriffsalotUhm, what the hell.. I just began that zsync download a few minutes ago in a new directory..15:56
sirriffsalotIt's already downloaded 2.6 GB??15:56
smartboyhwsirriffsalot, that's your old one, probably:P (It does sync the contents for you if you have a old ISO)15:56
sirriffsalotLol15:56
sirriffsalotYou're right15:57
sirriffsalot6e7db5ffdb954a05545940a7bc18d00d15:57
smartboyhwsirriffsalot, yeah, that.15:57
sirriffsalotWell, I'm satisfied, putting it to a stick :)15:57
sirriffsalot16gb 3.0 USB-stick :D:D15:57
OvenWerkssirriffsalot: how fast is it to write to?15:58
sirriffsalot3.015:58
sirriffsalotOh15:58
sirriffsalotSpecifics, lol15:58
OvenWerksI found that with my USB sticks the USB IF was not the bottleneck15:58
sirriffsalot50 MB/s read, 20 MB/s write15:59
OvenWerksMy USB drive was much faster for writes than the usb stick.15:59
OvenWerksThat is much better.15:59
sirriffsalotYour usb drive being?15:59
OvenWerksAn old 40G out of a lap top15:59
OvenWerksNot even SATA16:00
OvenWerksjust IDE16:00
sirriffsalotCurious16:01
OvenWerksBoth are USB 2.0, but like I say the USB IF is obviously not the limiting factor16:02
OvenWerksI can run my system off the USB drive, but the USB stick is painfully slow... unusable16:02
sirriffsalotOvenWerks: what usb-stick is it?16:04
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thurstylarkDoes anybody here use a Blue Snowball (or other usb mics/soundcards) with JACK? I can't seem to get mine to play nice with anything  but Audacity and I would like more options.19:40
OvenWerksthurstylark: if it works with pulse it should work with jack19:42
OvenWerkswhich distro are you using?19:42
OvenWerks(and version)19:43
thurstylarkStock Ubuntu 13.04 with Ardour and it's dependencies.19:43
thurstylark(keepin it light as i can)19:43
thurstylarkDo you think I need to install the ubuntustudio-audio (or whatever it's called) package to get more control over my sound cards?19:44
OvenWerksis jack installed RT?19:44
thurstylarkHmm. i don't remember. is there a simple way to check that?19:45
OvenWerksls /etc/security/limits.d/ should show audio.conf19:45
thurstylarkyup.19:46
thurstylarkit does19:46
OvenWerkshave you put yourself in the audio group?19:46
thurstylarkhmm... apparently not.19:47
OvenWerkssudo usermod -a -G audio <userid>19:48
thurstylarkcan I use the username instead of userid?19:49
OvenWerksthe user at the prompt19:50
thurstylarkor, how do I find my userid?19:50
OvenWerksecho $USER19:51
thurstylarkCool19:51
thurstylarkGot it.19:51
thurstylarkSo, what all should that change, as far as my capabilities?19:51
OvenWerksjack should run19:51
OvenWerksAre you using qjackctl to start jack?19:52
OvenWerks(recomened)19:52
OvenWerksYou may have to stop any running jacks19:52
OvenWerkskillall -9 jack19:53
OvenWerksI think19:53
OvenWerksmay have to do one for jackd and one for jackdbus19:53
thurstylarkYeah, I use it to test jack config, but I usually let Ardour start jack for me when I want to use it19:54
OvenWerksthat works too, if that interface is easier for you19:54
OvenWerksqjackctl has a logs window for debugging19:54
thurstylarkDoes Ardour care whether it starts jack or I do?19:55
OvenWerksnot at all.19:55
* thurstylark feels like i should know this by now...19:55
thurstylarkcool19:55
OvenWerksI think the ardour devs would prefer jack to be already running19:56
thurstylarkmakes sense.19:56
OvenWerksSomething to note, some audio IFs will only start at 48k, not 44.1k. others are opposite.19:57
OvenWerkshowever 48K is the standard everywhere but CDs19:57
OvenWerksPulse will have figured that out on it's own, not jack19:58
thurstylarkYeah, I think the snowball is locked at 44.1k...19:58
OvenWerksThe logs should tell you if jack failed to set rate19:58
thurstylarkCool.19:59
thurstylarkThat tells me what I need to know about it.20:00
thurstylarkI don't have it with me to test right now, but I had some time on my hands20:00
thurstylarkThanks for the help!20:00
OvenWerksIf your USB audio IF siglently fails to set rate, then the sound will have crackles in it.20:01
OvenWerksno prob20:01
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