[01:39] <Lehthanis> Heya, has anyone made an ubuntustudio ascii logo for motd?
[01:42] <Unit193> You could use the one from archey, though it isn't in the repos.
[01:46] <Lehthanis> whats archey?
[01:48] <wilee-nilee> archlinux probably
[01:50] <Unit193> No, archey is a basic sysinfo tool.
[01:50] <Unit193> (Why would it be archlinux?  Doesn't make sense in context.)
[01:50] <Unit193> It outputs a color ascii Ubuntu logo.
[01:53] <wilee-nilee> Unit193, YOU said not in the repos.
[01:54] <Unit193> archlinux is an operating system.
[01:54] <wilee-nilee> close enough context to say probably
[01:55] <wilee-nilee> not everyone here knows every single possible part of any OS, we are bound to make a mistake.
[01:56] <Lehthanis> well if it's not in the repos, whats the best way to get it? andis it just an ubuntu logo or a studio logo?
[01:58] <Unit193> Sadly, Ubuntu only.
[01:58] <Lehthanis> I'm trying to figure out how to get a motd to display in the first place on my .bashrc
[01:59] <Lehthanis> I know I can put the ascii art in /etc/motd.static
[01:59] <Unit193> https://github.com/djmelik/archey  and cat /etc/motd ?
[01:59] <Lehthanis> then I can sudo ln -s /etc/motd.static /etc/motd
[02:00] <Unit193> if [ -f /etc/motd ]; then cat /etc/motd;fi
[02:01] <Lehthanis> nice!  That's easy!
[02:02] <Unit193> You can pad it or change color too.
[02:03] <Lehthanis> do I do that in the file itself?  using bash color codes?
[02:07] <Unit193> YELLOW='\e[1;33m'   and then you can call it in an echo -e statement.
[02:08] <Unit193> http://bodhizazen.net/Tutorials/envrc example.
[02:11] <Lehthanis> you mean call the motd using an echo command instead of cat?
[08:46] <caodepalha> hi everyone! i just downloaded the distrho plugins. how do i add them/install to use in ardour?
[08:47] <cfhowlett> caodepalha, distro plugins?  what are you talking about?
[08:48] <cub> cfhowlett, seems to be https://github.com/falkTX/DISTRHO/issues/8
[08:48] <cfhowlett> cub, thanks.  looking ...
[08:48] <cub> also http://manual.ardour.org/working-with-plugins/getting-plugins/ there's a link. Never heard of it either..:)
[08:49] <cub> caodepalha, have you tried the instructions on http://manual.ardour.org/working-with-plugins/getting-plugins/ ?
[08:49] <cfhowlett> caodepalha, best you talk to the package maintainer as this stuff is not in the normal distro channel.
[08:49] <cub> After the plugins list there's a part on "How do I install plugins?"
[08:50]  * cub becomes a bit concerned when the page has the download links saying "donwload"
[08:51] <cfhowlett> cub, yeah, I'd have to say that's a level 4 alarm...
[08:52] <cub> maybe it's some 1337-speak I'm to old to understand. ;)
[08:52] <cub> it's falkTX stuff so should be good.
[08:53] <caodepalha> thanks cub as always
[08:54] <cub> caodepalha, if you have a standard Ubuntu Studio installation you need to install p7zip
[08:55] <caodepalha> already have it
[08:55] <caodepalha> :9
[08:55] <caodepalha> :)
[08:55] <cub> hmm no readme
[08:57] <cub> caodepalha, I would use the LV2 folder and follow the instructions on the Ardour manual page above "LV2 plugins are folders/directories. They need to installed in either /usr/lib/lv2, /usr/local/lib/lv2 or a directory mentioned in your LV2_PATH environment variable."
[08:58] <cub> I can't test on this machine myself though.
[08:58] <caodepalha> i'll check it
[12:24] <Sakrecoer> Hi!
[12:24] <Sakrecoer> I am installing 13.04 for the second time in my life on a brand new machine...
[12:25] <Sakrecoer> but this time, it's not going well at all....
[12:25] <Sakrecoer> It wont detect my ethernet...
[12:25] <Sakrecoer> which i can live with for now...
[12:25] <Sakrecoer> but i want to put it on the SSD, not the HDD...
[12:26] <Sakrecoer> HDD is SDA, and SSD is SDB...
[12:26] <Sakrecoer> at the end of the installation i get fatal error: "couldn't install grub on SDA"...
[12:27] <Sakrecoer> my motherboard support both legacy and UEFI...
[12:27] <Sakrecoer> i'm using legacy....
[12:28] <Sakrecoer> it's the second time i install 13.04, but i have done this so many times on so many different computers (don't get me wrong: i would never dare call myself an expert)... i just don't get it
[12:29] <Sakrecoer> could it be that i have to invert my drives? and put the SSD on the SATA1, so that it becomes /dev/sda ?
[12:30] <Sakrecoer> well.... yes... it seems to be like that.... installing on HDD just rendered freed from errors...
[12:32] <Sakrecoer> could there be some sort of hardcoded issue with the ubuntustudio live installer, forcing it to be on /dev/sda/ to succeed?
[12:35] <cub> Sakrecoer, hang around for a while and I hope someone with more installation skills than me comes along.
[12:35] <Sakrecoer> thanks cub! :)
[12:36] <cub> All my computers are too old to have such fancy stuff. ;)
[12:36]  * smartboyhw has never used SSD or UEFI so can't help too, sorry
[12:36] <Sakrecoer> tell me about it.... i worked my ass off a year and a half to get this super computer :D
[12:37] <Sakrecoer> oops sorry for that word ...
[12:37] <Sakrecoer> i'm just getting grey here...
[12:37] <cub> hehe
[12:37] <zequence> I've installed on SSD without problems
[12:38] <Sakrecoer> UEFI is not an issue i can do without... and SDD shouldn't much different... the thing is, grub installs if i run the ubuntu 13.04 live installer...
[12:38] <zequence> this is on a ASUS netbook, that has two small ones
[12:38] <Sakrecoer> this is why i'm thinking there is an issue with the ubuntustudio installer, that makes it impossible to install the system on /dev/sdb/
[12:39] <zequence> There's no problem installing it on any of the drives, generally
[12:39] <zequence> and you can also choose on which drive to install GRUB
[12:39] <zequence> the installer is not specific to Ubuntu Studio though
[12:39] <zequence> the installer is a program called ubiquity, and is the same one that all flavors use on their live systems
[12:39] <zequence> just with a few different settings and plugins involved
[12:40] <Sakrecoer> yeah... that my point zequence ... but if i try to put it on sdb it gives fatal error, also the possiblity to chose which drive to put grub on.... but the errors just repeats itself, regardless what i chose...
[12:40] <zequence> well, Kubuntu has their own version of the installer I think..
[12:40] <zequence> Sakrecoer: I'd check out #ubuntu-installer
[12:40] <Sakrecoer> thanks!
[12:40] <zequence> or ask on general installation ubuntu forums
[12:41] <xnox> Sakrecoer: enter manual partitioning, the drop down to select where to install grub is there.
[12:41] <xnox> zequence: i have highlights on "ubiquity" ;-)
[12:42] <zequence> xnox: Are you a ubiquity developer? Yeah, I have a few alerts on myself on half of freenode basically :P
[12:42] <smartboyhw> LOL
[12:42] <cub> ans Sakrecoer if you get a solution, please come back and post the solution. So for the next one we might know.
[12:43]  * smartboyhw wonders what's on zequence's alert list
[12:43] <zequence> smartboyhw: Just lowlatency and ubuntu studio basically
[12:43] <xnox> zequence: yes, I am. I believe we also met in Switzerland?! =)
[12:43] <zequence> xnox: Oh, right. By the stone table :)
[12:43] <xnox> zequence: correct.
[12:43] <xnox> =)
[12:43]  * smartboyhw thinks of a stone table as spooky.
[12:44] <Sakrecoer> oh i will for sure!
[12:44] <Sakrecoer> especially the hole ethernet issue... it seems to be common, but the sollution is totaly disparessed all over...
[12:44]  * cub was hoping to see Hyuri do the same thing for his deleted Windows partition solution ...
[12:50] <Sakrecoer> so i'm trying manual partitioning...
[12:50] <Sakrecoer> and i'm getting unsure about the moint point....
[12:50] <Sakrecoer> should it be just "/" ?
[12:52] <Sakrecoer> hmm.... i see that none of the previous installation have a mount point...
[12:55] <zequence> Sakrecoer: "/" is for the entire file system. You need at least that, and it would be best also to include a SWAP partition - roughly twice the size of your RAM
[12:56] <zequence> If you want, you can also keep a separate "/home" partition, so you can keep files there between installs
[12:56] <zequence> another solution is to create a paritition, and manually name the mount point to something like "/data"
[12:57] <zequence> "/data" is not a Unix/linux filesystem type, but it will be mounted in /data. Then just change ownership to your user in that folder, and you can reuse it between installs
[12:58] <zequence> Each time you make a new install, do not format that paritition. Only set it to use "Ext4" and manually write the mountpoint, for example "/data"
[12:58] <zequence> Only format it the first time, of course
[12:58] <Sakrecoer> ok...
[12:59] <Sakrecoer> i would really like to have my  /home located on the HDD... in the scenario where my system is on the SSD...
[13:00] <Sakrecoer> but i'm in total doubt in front of the manual partitioner.... i have there /dev/sda with only freespace (this is the HDD),  and then there is /dev/sdb, with /dev/sdb1 in ext4 with mountpoint /
[13:01] <Sakrecoer> and /dev/sdb5 swap with no mount point...
[13:01] <Sakrecoer> now... should grub go to /dev/sdb, or /dev/sdb1 ?
[13:03] <Sakrecoer> another question is: should the type for the mount point /home be logical or primal?
[13:04] <zequence> Sakrecoer: What do you have on sda?
[13:05] <zequence> Do you have a Windows boot loader on it?
[13:05] <zequence> If you do, that meanst GRUB will replace it
[13:05] <zequence> If you aren't worried about that, put GRUB onto /sda
[13:05] <zequence> If you want to keep the boot loader on /sda, put GRUB onto /sdb
[13:06] <zequence> If you put it onto /sdb1, that means it will be insider the partition only, not in the MBR
[13:06] <zequence> which means, you can't boot from it
[13:06] <zequence> not without using another boot loader
[13:06] <Sakrecoer> aah!! i get it zequence!!
[13:06] <zequence> You can set your BIOS to boot from either drive
[13:07] <zequence> So, if you want, you can have one boot loader on each
[13:07]  * Sakrecoer is considering asking "but what is windows?" :D
[13:07] <Sakrecoer> thanks a million!
[13:07] <Sakrecoer> it is much clearer now!
[13:15] <Sakrecoer> YESS!!!!!!!!!! grub installed on /dev/sdb !!!!
[13:15] <Sakrecoer> <3
[13:16] <smartboyhw> \o/
[13:16] <Sakrecoer> now i need to solve the ethernet issue...
[13:16] <Sakrecoer> :)
[13:16] <cub> Sakrecoer, yay
[13:16] <Sakrecoer> it seems to be recommended to use the partioner if you install on a machine with many operating drives...
[13:16] <Sakrecoer> :)
[13:17] <holstein> well, you either need a partitoner or not
[13:17] <holstein> if you have already made partitions, then, you can just specify that the system use/format the ones you want to use
[13:18] <Sakrecoer> yeah... not sure i understand... but before i went pretty straight forward, and grub just wouldn't settle in /dev/sdb .... even when i picked it as drive for everything, including /home
[13:18] <Sakrecoer> aah ok,... now i see holstein :)
[13:18] <holstein> if you dont want a "pretty straight forward" install, then it gets as complex as you want it to
[13:19] <holstein> grub is assumed these days.. from all the installers
[13:19] <holstein> at least AFAIK, it is
[13:19] <Sakrecoer> maybe i should say: " it seems to be recommended to chose to put the system on /dev/sda/ when doing the automatic formating...
[13:19] <holstein> !mini
[13:19] <holstein> ^^ you can use this, for that older "alternate cd" functionality.. which will install the OS and either not install grub, or ask where you want it to go
[13:20] <holstein> then, you can add whatever you like to it.. ubuntustudio packages or whatever
[13:20] <zequence> Sakrecoer: No, it should work putting it anyway. I often put it on something else than /sda, especially when installing to a usb stick
[13:20] <holstein> i think the rationale is, if you want something custom, you'll know how to get it..
[13:20] <zequence> anywhere, I mean
[13:21] <holstein> i like to just put grub on the USB stick its self if im doing a USB stick install
[13:21] <Sakrecoer> hmm... it worked, but now i have a beutyfull terminal... no sight of desktop...
[13:21] <holstein> Sakrecoer: what did what?
[13:21] <zequence> The USB stick is usually not /sda, which is why you need to specify where GRUB goes specifically
[13:21] <zequence> and putting it on sdb or sdc works just as well
[13:21] <Sakrecoer> holstein it looks like the server version...
[13:21] <Sakrecoer> :/
[13:22] <holstein> Sakrecoer: in what way *secifically*
[13:22] <holstein> specifically*
[13:22] <holstein> ah.. i gotta run..
[13:23] <Sakrecoer> i just get pushed into terminal... no desktop, no "interface"
[13:23] <Sakrecoer> on boot...
[13:23] <holstein> sounds like you have installed something without X.. or have no graphics card support
[13:23] <holstein> Sakrecoer: i assure you, there *is* a desktop :)
[13:23] <zequence> Sakrecoer: You are sure this is Ubuntu Studio?
[13:23] <holstein> Sakrecoer: did you see it from the live CD?
[13:23] <holstein> Sakrecoer: did you get to a desktop from the live installer disc?
[13:23] <Sakrecoer> my bad... it seems i was booting from something else... probably need to go look at what i have done in the bios...
[13:24] <Sakrecoer> yes... its ubuntustudio... 13.04 .
[13:25] <Sakrecoer> ubuntustudio is the hole reason behind me getting into this linux thing in the first place :D
[13:25] <Sakrecoer> it works great!!
[13:26] <Sakrecoer> i just had to reverse my boot order :D
[13:26] <Sakrecoer> home is on HDD, and system is on SSD :)
[13:26] <Sakrecoer> WITH a desktop heheh
[13:29] <Sakrecoer> thank you so much guys, girls and robots! :) i have learned alot from this!
[13:29] <zequence> Sakrecoer: Hope you have fun with it :)
[13:30] <Sakrecoer> oh i will!!!
[13:31] <Sakrecoer> but first i need to understand how to "claim" my network device...
[13:40] <Sakrecoer> well..... that was fun while it lasted.... now i got "error: file '/boot/grub/i386-pc/normal.mod' not found.
[13:40] <Sakrecoer> and "grub rescue>" waiting for me to do something i might regret... HAHAH
[13:43] <Sakrecoer> anyways.... i'm gonna go cry a little river over some food now... thanks a million for your helping hands!
[13:52] <Sakrecoer> ok i didnt...
[13:52] <Sakrecoer> its insane.. started all over... it works fine on first boot...
[13:53] <Sakrecoer> then i'm back in the desktop free version...
[13:53] <Sakrecoer> and yeah.. i changed the boot order to the adequate one...
[13:53] <cub> Sakrecoer, do you get a ubuntu terminal?
[13:54] <Sakrecoer> yes...
[13:54] <Sakrecoer> but now... at thirs boot... i got back to desktop...
[13:54] <cub> can you log in there? And perhaps do 'startx'?
[13:54] <cub> Aha so it intermittent? :/
[13:54] <Sakrecoer> yes random....
[13:54] <cub> crap
[13:54] <Sakrecoer> thinking my machine might be not good :(
[13:54] <Sakrecoer> i will try startx next it happens..
[13:56] <Sakrecoer> i can login... terminal asks me for user and pass.. but go figure... 5th reboot and all fine....
[13:56] <Sakrecoer> sorry for bugging your mind with mine.... :/ now i will eat.
[13:56] <Sakrecoer> Thanks again!
[13:56] <cub> good luck, I hope you get it solved.
[13:57] <Sakrecoer> thanks!!!
[13:57] <Sakrecoer> btw i really recommend SSD for system: the speed of start up is just insane!
[15:40] <sirriffsalot> Hey guys! I've downloaded the 13.04 32-bit .iso image two times now, via torrent, and my md5sum has both times ended up being "9ef83c65f489ffd534b8bf95d4a652f0  ubuntustudio-13.04-dvd-i386.iso"
[15:40] <sirriffsalot> Anything I should know here, because the md5 on ubuntustudio.org is "6e7db5ffdb954a05545940a7bc18d00d"
[15:42] <smartboyhw> sirriffsalot: oh?
[15:42] <sirriffsalot> smartboyhw: yes :(
[15:43] <sirriffsalot> smartboyhw: http://ubuntustudio.org/download/ > md5-link
[15:43] <smartboyhw> sirriffsalot: hmm you have a corrupted download
[15:43] <sirriffsalot> smartboyhw: I know that -.-
[15:44] <sirriffsalot> smartboyhw: But I've downloaded it twice and I get the same erronious checksum! :(
[15:44] <smartboyhw> sirriffsalot: Try not to use torrent this time
[15:44] <sirriffsalot> I am.. takes longer :(
[15:44] <sirriffsalot> erroneous *
[15:44] <OvenWerks> try zsync
[15:44] <smartboyhw> And zsync:)
[15:44] <sirriffsalot> What is that?
[15:45] <smartboyhw> sirriffsalot: zsync is a tool that downloads AND checks the sum for you:P
[15:45] <OvenWerks> zsync will only download parts that are not right and it will also check you checksum for you
[15:45] <sirriffsalot> OvenWerks, smartboyhw aha..
[15:46] <OvenWerks> you will have to install zsync ( sudo apt-get install zsync )
[15:46] <sirriffsalot> Did so just now
[15:47] <OvenWerks> I don't have the link you need off the top of my head though
[15:47] <OvenWerks> I am not in a boot where I have all my links :)
[15:48] <sirriffsalot> Why "sudo apt-get install zsync -y" anyway?
[15:48] <smartboyhw> sirriffsalot: -y will skip the step of you confirming the installation
[15:48] <sirriffsalot> Ah, haha
[15:48] <OvenWerks>  the -y should not be needed really.
[15:48] <sirriffsalot> How do I use this program...? Can't work it out
[15:49] <OvenWerks> in the same directory as your downloaded ISO run zsync url_of_ISO.zsync
[15:50] <sirriffsalot> Ah, found out :)
[15:52] <sirriffsalot> This was pretty useful.. how come it isn't more apparent to people unless I come here with the issue I have?
[15:53] <OvenWerks> Most people aren't downloading a new ISO every day
[15:53] <OvenWerks> It is great for keeping up with the daily builds
[15:53] <sirriffsalot> Perhaps a little * under the checksums at least, in case they fail repeatedly
[15:55] <OvenWerks> We could do that in a wiki somewhere, but we don't have access to the download page itself.
[15:55] <OvenWerks> (if it is the one I am thinking of)
[15:56] <sirriffsalot> Uhm, what the hell.. I just began that zsync download a few minutes ago in a new directory..
[15:56] <sirriffsalot> It's already downloaded 2.6 GB??
[15:56] <smartboyhw> sirriffsalot, that's your old one, probably:P (It does sync the contents for you if you have a old ISO)
[15:56] <sirriffsalot> Lol
[15:57] <sirriffsalot> You're right
[15:57] <sirriffsalot> 6e7db5ffdb954a05545940a7bc18d00d
[15:57] <smartboyhw> sirriffsalot, yeah, that.
[15:57] <sirriffsalot> Well, I'm satisfied, putting it to a stick :)
[15:57] <sirriffsalot> 16gb 3.0 USB-stick :D:D
[15:58] <OvenWerks> sirriffsalot: how fast is it to write to?
[15:58] <sirriffsalot> 3.0
[15:58] <sirriffsalot> Oh
[15:58] <sirriffsalot> Specifics, lol
[15:58] <OvenWerks> I found that with my USB sticks the USB IF was not the bottleneck
[15:59] <sirriffsalot> 50 MB/s read, 20 MB/s write
[15:59] <OvenWerks> My USB drive was much faster for writes than the usb stick.
[15:59] <OvenWerks> That is much better.
[15:59] <sirriffsalot> Your usb drive being?
[15:59] <OvenWerks> An old 40G out of a lap top
[16:00] <OvenWerks> Not even SATA
[16:00] <OvenWerks> just IDE
[16:01] <sirriffsalot> Curious
[16:02] <OvenWerks> Both are USB 2.0, but like I say the USB IF is obviously not the limiting factor
[16:02] <OvenWerks> I can run my system off the USB drive, but the USB stick is painfully slow... unusable
[16:04] <sirriffsalot> OvenWerks: what usb-stick is it?
[19:40] <thurstylark> Does anybody here use a Blue Snowball (or other usb mics/soundcards) with JACK? I can't seem to get mine to play nice with anything  but Audacity and I would like more options.
[19:42] <OvenWerks> thurstylark: if it works with pulse it should work with jack
[19:42] <OvenWerks> which distro are you using?
[19:43] <OvenWerks> (and version)
[19:43] <thurstylark> Stock Ubuntu 13.04 with Ardour and it's dependencies.
[19:43] <thurstylark> (keepin it light as i can)
[19:44] <thurstylark> Do you think I need to install the ubuntustudio-audio (or whatever it's called) package to get more control over my sound cards?
[19:44] <OvenWerks> is jack installed RT?
[19:45] <thurstylark> Hmm. i don't remember. is there a simple way to check that?
[19:45] <OvenWerks> ls /etc/security/limits.d/ should show audio.conf
[19:46] <thurstylark> yup.
[19:46] <thurstylark> it does
[19:46] <OvenWerks> have you put yourself in the audio group?
[19:47] <thurstylark> hmm... apparently not.
[19:48] <OvenWerks> sudo usermod -a -G audio <userid>
[19:49] <thurstylark> can I use the username instead of userid?
[19:50] <OvenWerks> the user at the prompt
[19:50] <thurstylark> or, how do I find my userid?
[19:51] <OvenWerks> echo $USER
[19:51] <thurstylark> Cool
[19:51] <thurstylark> Got it.
[19:51] <thurstylark> So, what all should that change, as far as my capabilities?
[19:51] <OvenWerks> jack should run
[19:52] <OvenWerks> Are you using qjackctl to start jack?
[19:52] <OvenWerks> (recomened)
[19:52] <OvenWerks> You may have to stop any running jacks
[19:53] <OvenWerks> killall -9 jack
[19:53] <OvenWerks> I think
[19:53] <OvenWerks> may have to do one for jackd and one for jackdbus
[19:54] <thurstylark> Yeah, I use it to test jack config, but I usually let Ardour start jack for me when I want to use it
[19:54] <OvenWerks> that works too, if that interface is easier for you
[19:54] <OvenWerks> qjackctl has a logs window for debugging
[19:55] <thurstylark> Does Ardour care whether it starts jack or I do?
[19:55] <OvenWerks> not at all.
[19:55]  * thurstylark feels like i should know this by now...
[19:55] <thurstylark> cool
[19:56] <OvenWerks> I think the ardour devs would prefer jack to be already running
[19:56] <thurstylark> makes sense.
[19:57] <OvenWerks> Something to note, some audio IFs will only start at 48k, not 44.1k. others are opposite.
[19:57] <OvenWerks> however 48K is the standard everywhere but CDs
[19:58] <OvenWerks> Pulse will have figured that out on it's own, not jack
[19:58] <thurstylark> Yeah, I think the snowball is locked at 44.1k...
[19:58] <OvenWerks> The logs should tell you if jack failed to set rate
[19:59] <thurstylark> Cool.
[20:00] <thurstylark> That tells me what I need to know about it.
[20:00] <thurstylark> I don't have it with me to test right now, but I had some time on my hands
[20:00] <thurstylark> Thanks for the help!
[20:01] <OvenWerks> If your USB audio IF siglently fails to set rate, then the sound will have crackles in it.
[20:01] <OvenWerks> no prob
[22:06] <nacho> oal
[22:06] <nacho> hello
[22:06] <nacho> my