[01:38] <projectmanga> is there antone there to help me
[01:41] <nukke> !help
[01:41] <ubottu> Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience
[01:44] <projectmanga> ok here we go im having problems wiht connecting with my zaurus i know the problem but i want an easier way to fix the problem (im only 12 years old and yes i installed linux myself)
[01:44] <nukke> a Zaurus PDA?
[01:45] <projectmanga> yea why i got it from someone who didnt need it its a sl-5500
[01:46] <nukke> what kind of problems are you having? is Xubuntu not recognizing the device?
[01:48] <projectmanga> yes.. well it thinks its a usb network (its 13.04 by the way)
[01:52] <projectmanga> i cant find any drivers and i need to install a rom update if could get a terminal command that could work
[01:53] <nukke> a quick Google search yielded this: http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/Networking/Zaurus_USB_network_how_to
[01:55] <projectmanga> i feel as if i need to learn some things this may take awhile
[02:22] <zy_guy> I need 24 bit color depth in 13.04 with intel igp can someone please help?
[02:22] <xubuntu629> I have an old computer that allows me to start installation of Ubuntu 10.04 most of the way but always there is issues that arise that make things go wacky and not work. I want to get Xubuntu on them but the installation comes and goes or does not load. I guess it may be the type of CPU's I have (from what I see in other forums about AMD CPU's)
[02:23] <Unit193> zy_guy: Can you run xdpyinfo | grep root ?
[02:24] <zy_guy> Did you try 12.04 xubuntu629, i would startwith that sinve 10.04 is no longer support
[02:24] <zy_guy> I'll run it 1 sec
[02:24] <xubuntu629> My current problem was with having installed Ubuntu 10.04 and then installing all programs I wanted then my computer just froze and then none of the USB ports worked....so no keyboard or mouse functionality. I had to just hold power button down b/c not even ctrl del worked
[02:26] <zy_guy> you might have bad instrall media, try downloading 12.04 iso and start with that
[02:27] <zy_guy> unit193 it says depth of root window 15 planes
[02:27] <zy_guy> The problem is i want to run xbmc on it, and xbmc wants 24 bit
[02:27] <xubuntu629> I started with Xubuntu and then Ubuntu 12.04's but they did not work. With Xubuntu 12.04 or higher I just got past Language and then slide show goes away and the loading circle ball shows up and spins for days if I let it but installation does not complete
[02:28] <Unit193> zy_guy: You are on raring, using Intel SNA.  Drop http://paste.openstack.org/show/4JH73LTTi5F0V4dFKnG6 into /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:28] <Unit193> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/1173649
[02:28] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1173649 in xserver-xorg-video-intel (Ubuntu) "incorrect color depth - intel graphics card" [Undecided,Opinion]
[02:30] <xubuntu629> I did download and burn 12 discs of all versions but still nothing. I have not problem with installing them on my other PC's and laptops that are not AMD
[02:30] <projectmanga> is there any single commands that can help my priblem
[02:31] <zy_guy> xubuntu629, try running the install with the kernel parameter  acpi=off
[02:31] <zy_guy> or pass the kernel parameter noapic
[02:32] <xubuntu629> Hmmm??? Ummm I don't know how to do all that stuff. I am basically lucky I can use internet and email correctly.
[02:32] <zy_guy> unit194 what does that do?
[02:32] <xubuntu629> I have done some stuff with terminal with my sons help but he moved to Japan
[02:32] <zy_guy> xubuntu629 look here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions
[02:32] <xubuntu629> Ok
[02:36] <xubuntu629> btw I have Windows XP on and Dual booted Xubuntu or Ubuntu on Install along side Windows choice
[02:36] <Unit193> zy_guy: Might want to use the tab key, but it's configuration to change the default backk to 24bit.  You can read the bug report for more information too.
[02:37] <zy_guy> can you post thaqt link again please
[02:38] <zy_guy> I can't seem to be able to cut and paste and i need to have it fopr my othe copmputer
[02:39] <zy_guy> http://paste.openstack.org/show/4JH73LTTi5F0V4dFKnG6
[02:39] <zy_guy> nm got it
[02:42] <xubuntu629> Well I am reading the Boot Options link but it will take me some time to figure it all out and try it. Thanks for help, though. I will have to get back to you on if it is what I need to fix the problems with my USB ports stop functioning. Laterz
[02:42] <Unit193> Restart, or restart xorg, zy_guy.
[02:43] <Unit193> In theory, 15 bit is faster.
[02:44] <zy_guy> i can't really even notice the difference. the only reason I'm asking is because XBMC won't start in less than 24bit. I can't find a comand line argument to force 15 bit
[02:45] <zy_guy> Im' restarting right now, cross your fingers for me please
[02:45] <zy_guy> Yes, it worked!! Thank you much!
[02:48] <Unit193> Sure, nice to help
[04:04] <xubuntu067> hola alguien me puede apoyar con una problema de fusion icon ???
[04:05] <holstein> !es
[04:05] <ubottu> En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #xubuntu-es; escriba "/join #xubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro. Si nadie responde, puedes intentar preguntando en #ubuntu-es.
[04:34] <Privacee> i'm just curious what are your favorite features of Xubuntu?
[04:36] <well_laid_lawn> I like that it's blue
[04:37] <Privacee> why do you prefer Xubuntu over other distros
[04:37] <well_laid_lawn> I like that it's blue
[04:38] <well_laid_lawn> xfce is nice and xubuntu has lots of apps to choose from
[04:40] <Privacee> well_laid_lawn, do you know of an calculator app that has unit conversions?
[04:41] <Privacee> something similar to what Windows 7 has
[04:44] <well_laid_lawn> not offhand no
[04:47] <Privacee> so it i install the latest version of Xubuntu today, it is only supported for 3 months??? WTF
[04:47] <Privacee> if*
[04:50] <holstein> Privacee: its supproted for 9 monhts total
[04:50] <holstein> you can get the lts.. 12.04
[04:50] <holstein> !lts
[04:50] <ubottu> LTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Xubuntu will be supported for 3 years. The current LTS version is !Precise (Precise Pangolin 12.04)
[04:50] <Privacee> what's the point in installing any of the latest Xubuntu releases? why not just have 1 LTS release every 2 years
[04:51] <pleia2> a lot of people like upgrading every 6 months for the latest software
[04:51] <Privacee> pleia2, so in 3 months the latest release won't support the latest firefox?
[04:52] <pleia2> Privacee: it's supported through January, so I don't know where you get 3 months
[04:52] <holstein> Privacee: in 3 months, the free sources online that provide upgrades will move on to support other versions
[04:52] <pleia2> firefox is a special case, it is kept upgraded
[04:52] <holstein> Privacee: you are welcome to keep *any* version of linux or ubuntu manually up to date for as long as you like
[04:53] <Privacee> so i can just type the update command and it will keep any version up to date?
[04:53] <holstein> Privacee: there is an update manager
[04:54] <holstein> Privacee: it will update from the sources during the official support cycle
[04:54] <Privacee> and once it is not officially supported can i manually update it with an update command?
[04:55] <holstein> Privacee: no.. by manually installing whatever packages ,by whatever means you want
[04:56] <Privacee> does the XFCE file manager have side by side window option in one folder?
[04:58] <holstein> Privacee: you can add *any* filemanger if thunar doenst suit you
[04:58] <Privacee> i'm sure, but i want to know about the default xubuntu file manager
[04:58] <holstein> Privacee: try it..
[04:59] <Privacee> have you tried it?
[04:59] <holstein> Privacee: would you like for me to try that for you, friend? right now?
[04:59] <Unit193> Never needed that feature so never looked, but I don't think it does.
[04:59] <holstein> Privacee: what *exactly* do you want to know?
[05:01] <holstein> i can open 2 of them, side by side.. i can install a heavier filemanger.. i can search for a plugin
[05:01] <holstein> if i want to see files side by side, i have *many* ways to do that..
[05:02] <holstein> the reason i use thunar or pcman is because they are fast
[05:05] <Privacee> when i was using Linux Mate it had a side-by-side window open which made it quick and easier to transfer files compared to tabs on pcman
[05:05] <Privacee> options*
[05:08] <Privacee> Linux Mint Mate had a lot of nice features and it was almost as lightweight as the XFCE version whilst providing more convenience for users, but i was experiencing some bugs so i decided to try lightweight Ubuntu options
[05:09] <Unit193> Xfce isn't mate or Gnome.
[05:10] <Privacee> Mint has an older release of XFCE
[05:10] <Privacee> although they stopped releases since Mate isn't much different than XFCE
[05:11] <Privacee> they also stopped the LXDE version, which i think was a bad move
[05:13] <Privacee> WinXP support is ending in a in a few of months many people will likely be looking for a lightweight alternative instead of just throwing out their older PCs
[05:16] <holstein> !mint
[05:16] <ubottu> Linux Mint is not a supported derivative of Ubuntu. Please seek support in #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org
[05:17] <holstein> AFAIK, dual pane is not in thunar by default.. but many other fm's have it
[05:17] <Privacee> over 37% of the world market still uses Windows XP https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_share_of_operating_systems
[05:18] <holstein> Privacee: this is also not XP support or discussion
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[05:21] <Privacee> Linux desktop market share is only 1.25% as of July 2013, since support of Windows XP ends next year, Linux has the potential to more than double its user base with a lightweight supported OS, such as with LXDE
[05:21] <Unit193> This isn't on topic for this channel.
[05:23] <holstein> Privacee: lubuntu is the OS.. lxde is just that.. the desktop environment
[05:24] <Privacee> !ot
[05:24] <ubottu> #xubuntu is the Xubuntu support channel, #xubuntu-devel for discussion regarding development of Xubuntu, and #xubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[09:24] <saulolguin> hola hola
[09:24] <saulolguin> hello hello
[09:29] <cfhowlett> !es
[09:29] <ubottu> En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #xubuntu-es; escriba "/join #xubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro. Si nadie responde, puedes intentar preguntando en #ubuntu-es.
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[11:22] <xubuntu832> Hi guys!
[11:23] <xubuntu832> How can I change the keyboard layout in the system settings and no int the personal settings
[11:24] <xubuntu832> The problem is when I want to login, i have the default layout. After logging in, I have my personal layout
[11:25] <TheSheep> xubuntu832: sudo dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration
[11:26] <xubuntu832> TheSheep: Thanks mate!
[11:29] <xubuntu832> TheSheep: this apparently is to define a keyboard model.but What I meant is to change the keyaboard layout (according to the language or country )
[11:30] <xubuntu832> France for example has a different keyboard layout
[11:32] <TheSheep> xubuntu832: it sets everything
[11:32] <TheSheep> xubuntu832: just go through all the steps
[11:39] <xubuntu832> TheSheep: You are absolutely right, we have to choose a keyboard model first and then the other options are configurable.
[11:40] <xubuntu832> TheSheep: thanks!
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[12:12] <_1nd1g0> Hello there guys)
[12:13] <_1nd1g0> Anyone to answer some simple tech question?
[12:14] <Soul-Sing> I am not in good shape, but go ahead:)
[12:16] <_1nd1g0> OK ^_^ Does your xubuntu 13.04 use real DPMS (monitor power management), or just blanks the screen out in black and does NOT turn the monitor to standby state as it has to do (because I've set such option in prefs)?
[12:16] <_1nd1g0> The same problem with the laptop screen
[12:17] <_1nd1g0> Laptop screen does not "sleep" either, so my CCFL backlight lamp keeps burning while the screen is black (((
[12:17] <Soul-Sing> Sorry not fam. with on xubuntu, gnome turns the of mine monitor into stanby
[12:17] <koegs> _1nd1g0: easy one
[12:17] <koegs> disable monitor management in power-options and enable them within xscreensaver advanced options
[12:18] <koegs> at least that did the trick for me
[12:19] <Soul-Sing> power management indeed
[12:22] <_1nd1g0> Thanks a lot, will try and see )
[12:23] <koegs> _1nd1g0: good luck, had the same issues and all systems, searched a lot, and then found the solution i just told you :D
[12:23] <koegs> s/and/on/
[12:23] <Braindead> _1nd1g0: worst case scenario, in case the previous solutions don't work for you: xset dpms force off (manually or via a script)
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[12:25] <cub> koegs, great. A solution to a problem I haven't bothered to investigate. :D
[12:25] <koegs> you are welcome, cub :)
[12:26] <_1nd1g0> Well, you do bother when your laptop lamp goes bad some day )
[12:30] <_1nd1g0> Or battery is drained by the backlight turned on forever )
[12:35] <_1nd1g0> Well, guys, this trick works perfect, thanks again)
[12:36] <_1nd1g0> The backlight CCFL lamp on old laptop is almost dead now, so it worth bothering.
[12:41] <_1nd1g0> Best regards.
[12:53] <Monkeytoe> Is there a program for ubuntu that will image my operating system hard drive so I can restore it later if something goes wrong?
[12:54] <koegs> clonezilla, partimage, fsarchiver, dd
[13:03] <pmjdebruijn> Monkeytoe: generally that might not be the best approach though, if you save your /home
[13:03] <pmjdebruijn> make a list of the installed packages
[13:03] <pmjdebruijn> it should be easy to have your system back working quite quickly
[13:03] <bgardner> pmjdebruijn: +1
[13:04] <pmjdebruijn> :)
[13:04] <pmjdebruijn> and then at least you have a clean slate :)
[13:04] <pmjdebruijn> both have their pro and cons of course
[13:06] <Monkeytoe> well im wanting to mess around with a pax + grsec hardened kernel build ive got going in a vm.... ive set up this laptop and now want to menuconfig a new kernel... currently its about 95 percent where I want it functionally, I just need to add in the security features.. ive not really done any kernel changes on a live system so am unsure what to expect... and typically only do them on server installs not desktops... so not knowing
[13:06] <Monkeytoe> what to expect has me leaning towards a drive image
[13:07] <Monkeytoe> hmm it seems to have cut off some of what I said
[13:07] <Monkeytoe> well im wanting to mess around with a pax + grsec hardened kernel build ive got going in a vm
[13:42] <pmjdebruijn> Monkeytoe: if you're doing this in a VM, why not backup the VM disk image?
[13:43] <pmjdebruijn> or did I misunderstand
[13:43] <Monkeytoe> not doing anything more with the vm... doing a real deploy on a laptop now... vm was just practicing building the kernel
[13:43] <Braindead> on a real machine... LVM snapshots
[13:44] <Monkeytoe> ive got lvm installed since I encrypted the disk.. do you have a link that shows how to do lvm snapshots?
[13:47] <Braindead> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lvm
[13:55] <Braindead> http://www.thatsongsoundslike.com/
[13:55] <Braindead> whooops sorry wrong channel
[14:00] <pmjdebruijn> Monkeytoe: do you have full disk crypto? because that add another level of complexity (and potential breakage) when updating with experimental kernels
[14:00] <pmjdebruijn> since you need the right kernel modules and initramfs properly built
[14:02] <Monkeytoe> yeah I did full disk encryption...
[14:03] <Monkeytoe> could I reinstall without full disk encryption, then build the kernel... then add full hard disk encryption afterwords?
[14:03] <Monkeytoe> or even better... could I just build the kernel and include it in a custom version of the xubuntu installer ?
[14:10] <pmjdebruijn> you could do all of those things
[14:10] <pmjdebruijn> but if you need to ask, it's going to be a stretch to archive in short amount of time
[14:11] <pmjdebruijn> I'd recommend the explorer all the area's seperately before attempting to do anything "together"
[14:12] <Monkeytoe> yeah
[14:39] <pmjdebruijn> oh damn, I made a bunch of typo's there :s
[14:39] <pmjdebruijn> but I guess the message got acros :)
[14:39] <pmjdebruijn> across even :(
[15:18] <xubuntu873> hello
[15:18] <xubuntu873> install xubuntu after try from my pen drive
[15:18] <xubuntu873> i have a xubuntu in my pen drive. i tried xubuntu from my pen drive. now i want to install it on my pen drive . but when i am clicking on install package which is on desktop xunbuntu is not going to install. my keyborad is working fine. and also mouse is working fine. Guide me.
[15:19] <Sysi> you need to install from another pendrive or a cd
[15:19] <Sysi> you can't install from the same drive you're installing to
[15:20] <xubuntu873> :( i think this is a very bad luck for me..
[15:21] <xubuntu873> why not i cant install OS .. no any trick is there means any file to remove which is preventig to install..
[15:22] <Sysi> if stick is big enough, you can maybe add another partition where you can install to
[15:22] <Sysi> at least 8GB, preferably more
[15:22] <xubuntu873> nop its 4 gb
[15:23] <Sysi> it's not gonna be big enough for complete xubuntu installation
[15:24] <xubuntu873> hmm.. k thankx
[15:24] <xubuntu873> bye ..
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[19:28] <novato> could you help me please? There is a Brazilian community that operating system here on IRC?
[19:32] <David-A> novato: there is #ubuntu-pt for portugese ubuntu community
[19:34] <novato> I know that the ubuntu community, I would like to know the Xubuntu.
[19:34] <bazhang> !br
[19:34] <ubottu> Por favor, use #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Para entrar no canal por favor faça "/join #ubuntu-br" sem as aspas. Para a comunidade local portuguêsa, use #ubuntu-pt. Obrigada.
[19:35] <bazhang> they should support all there
[19:35] <David-A> novato: aha, not what i know of
[19:36] <novato> ubottu: thank you
[19:36] <ubottu> You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[19:37] <novato> a bot? 'm new!
[19:37] <novato> David-A: thank you..
[21:03] <kingnick42> I've got this new mouse - http://dx.com/p/r-horse-rh-3200-usb-wired-800-1600-2400-3200dpi-gaming-optical-mouse-black-golden-190cm-cable-133967
[21:04] <kingnick42> The left and right click buttons work fine, as does the middle click. Can't find a way to configure the other three buttons, and, most annoyingly, the scrollwheel doesn't work. Any ideas?
[21:34] <David-A> kingnick42: run "xev" in a terminal, roll the wheel with the mouse in the xev window, and see if it sends button codes, and if so what buttons? (wheel should be button 4 and button 5)
[21:36] <David-A> kingnick42: for the additional buttons, use xev to see if they have button codes, then you can "program" them with e.g. xbindkey
[21:37] <kingnick42> David-A, no button codes for the scrollwheel
[21:39] <kingnick42> David-A, the side buttons have button codes (8,9)
[21:39] <kingnick42> the top one doesn't (maybe its not a button after all?)
[21:45] <David-A> kingnick42: (don't know what to do about the scroll wheel. you can wait here or try #ubuntu or http://ubuntuforums.org )
[21:48] <kingnick42> David-A, ok. Thanks
[21:48] <Viva_Nero> anybody tried to get Eurotruck Simulator 2 to run in wine and had any success?
[22:08] <xubuntu060> hello! i want to make a live usb stick XUBUNTU using unetbootin! i am using right now windows 7 so i guess i ll format to fat32 the usbt stick
[22:09] <xubuntu060> but i want also to have the possibility to install programs to this usb live stick XUBUNTU like having it on my hard disk installed
[22:11] <xubuntu060> its a option on unetbootin like Space used to preserve files across reboots so if i want 500 mb  free space to my usb live stick Xubuntu to save scripts files or install programs like skype i put 500 mb to this option?
[22:12] <David-A> xubuntu060: yes, that is right
[22:14] <xubuntu060> thank you so much
[22:14] <xubuntu060> :)
[22:14] <David-A> xubuntu060: select more than 500mb if there is space on the usb-stick. 500mb is enough for skype and a bunsh of scripts or documents, but by time you will wish you had a little more space.
[22:17] <xubuntu060> David-A i will install later when i take back my laptop from my cousin so now i just have a 4 gb usb stick :P
[22:17] <xubuntu060> i wonder also if this "Space used to preserve files across reboots" option can work for backtrack distro...
[22:17] <xubuntu060> because its says (ubuntu) only but backtrack is based on ubuntu
[22:17] <holstein> !backtrack
[22:17] <ubottu> There are some Ubuntu derivatives that we cannot provide support for due to repository and software changes. Please consult their websites for more information. Examples: gNewSense (support in #gnewsense), Linux Mint (see !mint), kali-linux (#kali-linux), CrunchBang (support in #crunchbang), BackTrack (support in #backtrack-linux)
[22:18] <holstein> i usually just do a normal install to a usb stick.. i put grub right on the stick
[22:18] <holstein> i prefer that to a traditional persistent live session
[22:19] <xubuntu060> sounds a very good alternative option but how can i do a normal install to a usb stick?
[22:19] <xubuntu060> from a iso?
[22:20] <holstein> xubuntu060: i use whatever installation media i choose, and install to whatever destination i choose
[22:20] <holstein> xubuntu060: sometimes, i use a desktop machine that i dont have any hard drives in.. so that i can use the default installer and default options..
[22:22] <xubuntu060> aha thank you so much so i guess i use something like poweriso to mount in my windows7 the xubuntu iso and then choose as a installation destination my usb stick!
[22:25] <David-A> xubuntu060: with a 4GB usb-stick there should be room for ca 3GB space to save things between sessions, with a live usb install. if you make a normal install on the usb-stick, there will be a little less free space, still enough for skype I think.
[22:26] <xubuntu060> ok i hope so...soo making a normal install on the usb stick what else things they got installed that i cant have them on a unetbootin install?
[22:26] <holstein> dont hope, just test and see