| robert_ancell | brb | 00:01 |
|---|---|---|
| robert_ancell | RAOF, MM8 seems to run better for some simple test cases with mir_demo_server | 00:13 |
| robert_ancell | still falls apart if I plug a monitor while running unity or from the greeter though | 00:15 |
| RAOF | Ah, good. Valgrind sees all! | 00:39 |
| robert_ancell | :) | 00:40 |
| RAOF | Mir doesn't handle monitor unplug, apparently. | 00:40 |
| RAOF | Unplugging my HDMI monitor and then querying the display config crashes u-s-c | 00:41 |
| robert_ancell | ah | 00:42 |
| * robert_ancell -> lunch | 00:56 | |
| robert_ancell | RAOF, any thoughts on that unplug issue? Are you working towards a MM9? | 02:02 |
| robert_ancell | RAOF, Is there anything I can do to help here - multi-monitor isn't working on my system at all and I don't know of any specific bugs I can fix. If there's no new packages coming I | 02:28 |
| robert_ancell | 'm not doing anything useful here | 02:28 |
| RAOF | robert_ancell: I don't think there's anything to test that can't be more easily done by me locally at the moment. | 02:31 |
| robert_ancell | ok, any idea when something will be testable? | 02:31 |
| RAOF | I don't think I can give a useful estimate. | 02:32 |
| RAOF | Should be soonish, but that depends on my understanding of the current problems. | 02:32 |
| kgunn | what' s up fella's i'm back | 02:45 |
| kgunn | anything to test ? | 02:45 |
| robert_ancell | kgunn, nothing at the moment | 02:47 |
| * RAOF tries with the next set of debug spew. | 02:48 | |
| RAOF | That's *better*; now I merely need to find out where I'm setting the stride incorrectly. | 03:10 |
| RAOF | Ah! | 03:15 |
| RAOF | And that's where the pitch is wrong. | 03:15 |
| duflu | Erm, both testing PPAs populated? Which one should I use? | 03:20 |
| RAOF | qa-testing2 | 03:20 |
| robert_ancell | duflu, qa-testing is MM+bypass, qa-testing2 is just MM | 03:21 |
| duflu | Okee | 03:22 |
| kgunn | duflu: ....just to add, qa-testing2 is a non-starter atm | 03:25 |
| duflu | Argh. | 03:25 |
| * duflu cancels upgrade | 03:25 | |
| RAOF | But might soon start & win! | 03:27 |
| kgunn | RAOF: curious...why is qa-testing xorg mm8 & qa-testing2 mm7 ? | 03:27 |
| RAOF | kgunn: Because I uploaded mm8 to the wrong PPA | 03:28 |
| kgunn | :)) | 03:28 |
| duflu | This could cause some pinning confusion... | 03:28 |
| kgunn | i love you guys....make me feel normal :) | 03:28 |
| kgunn | duflu: how so ? | 03:29 |
| duflu | kgunn: My system was pinned for qa-testing. So switching to qa-testing2 might not get all the packages from it | 03:30 |
| kgunn | duflu: right...you'd have to purge first | 03:30 |
| robert_ancell | yep, always do a purge | 03:30 |
| duflu | Hmm, the pointer lag that I previously attributed to software cursors is mostly gone when using a PPA with bypass enabled | 03:46 |
| kgunn | robert_ancell: you updated qt-testing2 from archive basically ?...thanks for that | 03:46 |
| duflu | ... mostly | 03:46 |
| robert_ancell | kgunn, no, just rebasing on archive when it changes | 03:46 |
| kgunn | robert_ancell: yeah...what i meant...thanks for that | 03:47 |
| robert_ancell | np | 03:47 |
| kgunn | i was semi worrying about that | 03:47 |
| kgunn | btw...did you see olli's ping earlier about u-s-c crashing on him ? | 03:48 |
| RAOF | When he removes a monitor? | 03:48 |
| kgunn | no it was just random use of xmir (i think) | 03:48 |
| kgunn | but then apport said something like...can't report because | 03:48 |
| kgunn | version of u-s-c changed ? | 03:49 |
| robert_ancell | kgunn, was he using a PPA? | 03:49 |
| kgunn | <olli> kgunn, tvoss|dinner_and_benchmarking seeing something weird | 03:49 |
| kgunn | <olli> while working on my kernel issue, I got an apport report of u-s-c crashing | 03:49 |
| kgunn | <olli> which in iteself sucks but is no surprise | 03:49 |
| kgunn | <olli> however I have #seat=unity | 03:49 |
| kgunn | <olli> and when proceeding to file the bug through apport, it complains that the bug can't be filed since u-s-c has changed since the crash occured | 03:49 |
| robert_ancell | might be an old crash report | 03:50 |
| RAOF | Ok. Lets see if mm9 + a new intel driver gets us all the way to spanned displays. | 03:50 |
| duflu | Is anyone testing non-intel? I can't with saucy :( | 03:53 |
| RAOF | It almost certainly won't work with !intel at the moment; I'll get to that after intel works. | 03:53 |
| duflu | I can test radeon and nouveau on raring tho... Need to build everything by hand | 03:55 |
| RAOF | Hm. Might be lunch time. | 03:58 |
| duflu | Hm. Might be breakfast time | 04:03 |
| robert_ancell | Hm. Might be dinner time | 04:04 |
| olli | Hm. Might be bed time | 04:06 |
| olli | is there anything worth testing? | 04:07 |
| tvoss | good morning :) | 04:12 |
| olli | kgunn, I was bisecting kernels and it might have been just a weird side effect | 04:12 |
| olli | tvoss says: Hm. Might be breakfast time | 04:13 |
| * duflu concurs. | 04:13 | |
| duflu | Brunch even | 04:13 |
| tvoss | olli, indeed :) | 04:13 |
| olli | well, it's beer o'clock somewhere | 04:13 |
| kgunn | olli: i thot you were in some remote forest or canyon or something | 04:14 |
| olli | kgunn, I will be in 12h | 04:15 |
| olli | right now though I am having ice cream and redwine | 04:16 |
| olli | waiting for the miracle in #ubuntu-mir street | 04:16 |
| olli | duflu, anything worth giving a shot? | 04:17 |
| kgunn | i think waiting on a mir-acle makes you gain weight...waffling between beer & choc chip cookies | 04:17 |
| olli | hah, kgunn just inspired me for the blog post once everything has landed | 04:18 |
| olli | +title | 04:18 |
| * tvoss hands coffee to RAOF :) | 04:41 | |
| duflu | olli: I know as much as you. RAOF and robert_ancell are in control of PPAs | 04:46 |
| robert_ancell | olli, there's no changes worth testing. RAOF is working on X changes and the PPAs are ready for that when available | 04:47 |
| RAOF | Xserver MM9 should be in qa-testing2, but that's not going to work properly until xf86-video-intel mm5 | 04:48 |
| RAOF | Which, assuming I've fixed the build properly this time, should be uploaded soon. | 04:49 |
| * tvoss hugs RAOF | 04:50 | |
| olli | alrighty, will keep my fingers crossed | 04:50 |
| olli | (start getting calluses though) | 04:50 |
| RAOF | Ok. Let's see if this works? | 05:01 |
| kgunn | RAOF: amd64 failed | 05:02 |
| tvoss | kgunn, in qa-testing2? | 05:03 |
| kgunn | tvoss: my bad | 05:04 |
| kgunn | too many tabs | 05:04 |
| tvoss | RAOF, did you upload mm5, yet? | 05:05 |
| olli | RAOF, qa-testing2? | 05:12 |
| RAOF | Yeah, that's where it'll end up | 05:12 |
| RAOF | Just testing it locally. | 05:12 |
| tvoss | duflu, did you see https://code.launchpad.net/~robertcarr/mir/weak-session-for-session-mediator/+merge/181924 | 05:12 |
| tvoss | ? | 05:12 |
| olli | RAOF, ok | 05:12 |
| RAOF | Just worked out why it tends to turn my HDMI output off, too, which once fixed will make it easier to test :) | 05:13 |
| duflu | tvoss: I intentionally don't look at code reviews until I have a longer stretch of hours to fuss over them. So... soon | 05:13 |
| tvoss | duflu, ack :) | 05:13 |
| RAOF | Win! | 05:25 |
| duflu | Where? | 05:28 |
| RAOF | qa-testing2, xorg-server MM10, xf86-video-intel MM5 | 05:28 |
| duflu | Righto | 05:28 |
| RAOF | You'll need to wait for them to build, obviously. | 05:29 |
| RAOF | Well, not obviously. But you will need to wait for them to build :) | 05:29 |
| duflu | Now obvious | 05:29 |
| kgunn | in the words of tom petty "the waiting is the hardest part" | 05:30 |
| * kgunn subscribes to the theory there's a song lyric for every situation | 05:31 | |
| duflu | RAOF: You silently switched from qa-testing to qa-testing2 ... is that because bypass is still suspicious? or you want to keep it simple testing one thing at a time? | 05:31 |
| RAOF | Oh, because bypass is still suspicious. | 05:31 |
| duflu | kgunn: Generally true. | 05:31 |
| duflu | RAOF: Suspected of ... (something I can test for?) | 05:32 |
| RAOF | Suspected of failing to send buffers appropriately. | 05:32 |
| RAOF | Now that MM works I can dig deeper there. | 05:32 |
| duflu | RAOF: How so? | 05:32 |
| robert_ancell | I have to go, I'll try and hop on later tonight and check in | 05:33 |
| kgunn | or duflu could dig there...while you dig on ati :) | 05:33 |
| kgunn | robert_ancell: o/ | 05:33 |
| RAOF | duflu: Because, when XMir is driving multiple displays, unity-system-compositor only shows the first frame since it was VT switched to. | 05:33 |
| RAOF | robert_ancell: Have fun wherever :) | 05:33 |
| duflu | kgunn: Due to multiple kernel bugs, I cannot test bypass on radeon. Only alf could | 05:33 |
| kgunn | duflu: even after the 3.11 arrival ? | 05:34 |
| duflu | kgunn: Because of 3.11. Booting 3.11 on raring broke too much, and booting saucy on my radeon machine fails to boot at all for unknown reasons | 05:35 |
| tvoss | RAOF, did you upload mm5 for the intel driver, yet? | 05:36 |
| duflu | kgunn: So I was going to call that a blocker till alf tested it for me | 05:36 |
| kgunn | yeah | 05:37 |
| duflu | RAOF: I got exceptions from USC yesterday suggesting bypass might fail due to outputs not having CRTCs assigned at times. Is that meant to be possible? | 05:38 |
| duflu | It's not possible to reproduce with plain Mir. Only saw it with XMir + MM setup | 05:38 |
| duflu | Which reminds me. I need to beef up our exceptions if it happens again | 05:39 |
| RAOF | tvoss: Yeah, I've uploaded MM5 of -intel | 05:43 |
| tvoss | RAOF, in qa-testing2? | 05:44 |
| RAOF | ...but I don't see it in the PPA, so I'll check my email. | 05:44 |
| tvoss | yup :) | 05:44 |
| RAOF | Hah! Which says ‘you sent it to qa-testing, dufus’ | 05:44 |
| kgunn | tvoss: so i was playing with lttng....trying to follow the http://unity.ubuntu.com/mir/component_reports.html | 05:45 |
| kgunn | so when i cd into /tmp/ i don't mirsession | 05:45 |
| RAOF | Why is everything terrible? | 05:46 |
| kgunn | or rather...if i follow those instructions...what is substituted for <sub dir> in ....babeltrace /tmp/mirsession/<trace-subdir> | 05:46 |
| * RAOF cancels the amd64 xserver build that hung in the xvfb-run test | 05:46 | |
| tvoss | RAOF, kgunn moving over to the new house with a second monitor with me :) back in ~20 | 05:49 |
| RAOF | Hm. Damage is slightly off. | 05:58 |
| RAOF | But mostly ok. | 05:58 |
| RAOF | i386 build, take 2, is done. | 06:01 |
| RAOF | amd64 build is nearly done. | 06:05 |
| RAOF | Happy testing, gentlemen. | 06:05 |
| RAOF | I'm off to get groceries. | 06:06 |
| tvoss | back again | 06:11 |
| tvoss | RAOF, dist-upgrading | 06:12 |
| tvoss | kgunn, can you check your lttng version? please see the remark at the bottom of the page | 06:13 |
| kgunn | tvoss: hmm, says 2.1.1... | 06:15 |
| kgunn | but thanks for that...that pointer to the 2.2+ might be an issue on my android effort | 06:17 |
| olli | kgunn, which PPA did RAOF suggest | 06:18 |
| kgunn | https://launchpad.net/~mir-team/+archive/qa-testing2/+packages | 06:18 |
| kgunn | olli: ^ | 06:18 |
| kgunn | olli: don't forget to purge first (if you had been using qa-testing....not qa-testing2) | 06:19 |
| kgunn | and of course updaet your pinning pref file | 06:19 |
| olli | kgunn, on it | 06:20 |
| tvoss | kgunn, did you try the ppa, yet? | 06:21 |
| kgunn | tvoss: yep...just incessant punting to the greeter | 06:21 |
| kgunn | i wanna double check all my packages first thos | 06:21 |
| kgunn | just in case | 06:21 |
| * olli finishes the install of qa-testing2 | 06:25 | |
| olli | what do we expect to work? | 06:25 |
| kgunn | tvoss: you ? | 06:25 |
| kgunn | olli: i would just try vga hotplug | 06:25 |
| kgunn | all my packages match :( | 06:27 |
| olli | kgunn, should I refrain from testing? | 06:27 |
| olli | or are you talking lttng? | 06:27 |
| kgunn | second data point can't hurt | 06:27 |
| kgunn | unfortunately....i'm talkin' bout qa-testing2 | 06:28 |
| olli | brb | 06:28 |
| kgunn | hmmmm....hdmi worked....after 1 punting to greeter | 06:29 |
| kgunn | all the sizes even look proper (mirrored) | 06:30 |
| kgunn | ooo, it's pissed...did not like me unchecking mirrored | 06:31 |
| kgunn | just hung | 06:31 |
| olli | arg | 06:33 |
| olli | can't find the vga cable | 06:33 |
| olli | am on dvi via dock | 06:33 |
| olli | so far it's just mirrored | 06:33 |
| olli | doesn't detect 2nd display | 06:33 |
| duflu | Are we meant to having working hotplugging yet? Even when I had two monitors working this morning, I had to reboot before xrandr detected the second one | 06:36 |
| * tvoss reboots | 06:36 | |
| kgunn | hotplugging works on standalone X | 06:36 |
| kgunn | and at least that was the goal...to have parity | 06:36 |
| duflu | kgunn: Yeah. But I mean have we implemented it yet? | 06:36 |
| * duflu isn't sure | 06:37 | |
| kgunn | at least mir mm (demo clients) was ok with this (i think...) | 06:37 |
| * kgunn now doubts self | 06:37 | |
| tvoss_ | RAOF, are we supposed to have hotplugging working? | 06:39 |
| kgunn | ok...so hotplug on vga (1 test) didn't work, hdmi hotplug punted me to greeter but then on login worked... | 06:39 |
| kgunn | from boot both vga & hdmi work in mirror mode | 06:39 |
| kgunn | ooo, take that back hdmi worked in mirror mode, vga does not | 06:40 |
| kgunn | hdmi also worked when in mirror mode...deselect mirror + built in display off.....it went to 2nd monitor only | 06:41 |
| kgunn | (which is a lot like hotplug) | 06:41 |
| kgunn | and hdmi was ok, with switching mirror mode on (from the state of built in display off) | 06:41 |
| kgunn | ok....that does it for me...i'm totally crashing (i feel asleep mid reboot) | 06:41 |
| kgunn | vga no good...hdmi seems pretty ok (mirror & going to second display only) | 06:42 |
| kgunn | hotplug wonky on hdmi, no good on vga | 06:42 |
| duflu | RAOF: Looks like XMir is honouring the desktop's alpha channel. I can "see through" the unity launcher when dragged | 06:42 |
| olli | well, that didn't work so well | 06:44 |
| olli | I am off for today | 06:45 |
| olli | good luck gentlemen | 06:45 |
| olli | appreciate your work on the weekend | 06:45 |
| duflu | Alright. Later olli | 06:45 |
| RAOF | See you. | 06:45 |
| duflu | Hmm, X died and took me back to lightdm. But no logs show a crash... ? | 06:46 |
| tvoss_ | duflu, RAOF hotplug with vga not working for me | 06:46 |
| tvoss_ | I'm afk for some 30 minutes now, with you later | 06:47 |
| RAOF | Hm. | 06:47 |
| RAOF | duflu: What do you mean by "see through"? | 06:55 |
| RAOF | Well, HDMI hotplug worksish for me, although X doesn't seem to notice when its connected. | 06:55 |
| duflu | RAOF: Drag the launcher down and you can see a stationary one underneath. Perhaps an old frame or intended for a different screen | 06:55 |
| duflu | It seems Compiz/Unity has some pixels with alpha < 1.0, which never used to matter but now they're translucent | 06:56 |
| RAOF | They *shouldn't* be translucent. If they are it's a Mir bug, as Xmir chooses an xrgb pixel format. | 06:57 |
| duflu | Hmm, well that's the least severe issue right now | 07:00 |
| RAOF | Resolution changing seems to be working pretty well here. | 07:01 |
| RAOF | Turning the hdmi off, turning it on, changing the mode, moving it, all work. | 07:02 |
| * duflu restarts with a more sane single output setup | 07:02 | |
| RAOF | Although I *am* ussing the locally built packages | 07:02 |
| * RAOF upgrades from the PPA | 07:02 | |
| duflu | Hmm, I don't get any resolution choices for LVDS. Only DisplayPort | 07:04 |
| RAOF | Yup. | 07:05 |
| RAOF | We only pass on the modes the monitor supports. | 07:05 |
| RAOF | Internal panels almost uniformly lack scalers, so they only support their native mode. | 07:05 |
| duflu | Really? Every laptop I've tried had reasonable scaling for low-res modes | 07:08 |
| RAOF | No, it's had faked scaling for low-res modes :) | 07:11 |
| RAOF | Or, rather, the scaling has been done on the GPU rather than by the panel. | 07:11 |
| duflu | RAOF: Yeah. For many people trying to run Unity on full-HD laptops, that feature is rather important | 07:17 |
| tvoss_ | back | 07:48 |
| tvoss_ | RAOF, duflu anything you want me to test? | 07:48 |
| duflu | tvoss_: Can you confirm any of my bugs? https://bugs.launchpad.net/xmir/+bugs?field.tag=multimonitor | 07:49 |
| tvoss_ | duflu, walking through them | 07:49 |
| duflu | It's rather cool that you can still start native Mir clients inside unity-system-compositor and XMir just (correctly) gets out the way | 08:01 |
| duflu | Oh wow, my translucent desktops are responding separately. It really is two launchers | 08:09 |
| RAOF | duflu: Can you modeset/change layouts with the xrandr tool? | 08:14 |
| tvoss_ | duflu, you might want to give https://code.launchpad.net/~thomas-voss/glmark2/mir-no-deprecated-functions a spin | 08:14 |
| duflu | RAOF: I was just about to. Got side-tracked taking awesome blurry-cam video | 08:15 |
| RAOF | :) | 08:16 |
| duflu | RAOF: I suspect the blending issue is just "normal" for Compiz/Unity when you have two different displaybuffers physically overlapping | 08:17 |
| RAOF | Likely, yes. | 08:17 |
| duflu | Hence, it's "pre-blended" before it hits Mir | 08:18 |
| duflu | RAOF: Yes, xrandr layout changes work. | 08:20 |
| duflu | Only crashes with Control Center | 08:20 |
| RAOF | Yeah. I suspect that it's actually broken with xrandr too, but we mostly don't hit it, whereas the little labels gnome-control-centre has makes it hit. | 08:21 |
| duflu | RAOF: Kinda. I tried some --off and then on again. And eventually broke it with xrandr | 08:23 |
| duflu | RAOF: Do the labels cause immediate damage or something strange? | 08:24 |
| duflu | tvoss_: Cool. But I've never built glmark2 and might not get to it today | 08:26 |
| tvoss_ | duflu, I will produce some numbers over the weekend for intel and amd | 08:26 |
| duflu | tvoss_: Excellent. Can you see if a single build can support X and native Mir? Because glmark2 does. Then we can compare them directly. Even both running on the same USC instance :) | 08:27 |
| tvoss_ | duflu, yup, you can build multiple flavors | 08:27 |
| duflu | tvoss_: I mean build once, run anywhere | 08:27 |
| tvoss_ | duflu, yup, that's what I mean, too :) | 08:27 |
| duflu | tvoss: Nice. You could even run an X glmark2 and Mir glmark2 simultaneously on USC :) | 08:28 |
| tvoss_ | duflu, exactly ;) | 08:28 |
| tvoss_ | duflu, makes for nice blurry cam videos, too | 08:28 |
| duflu | Though they would fight for GPU | 08:28 |
| tvoss_ | duflu, right, not so interesting for producing numbers | 08:29 |
| tvoss_ | duflu, walked through the multi-monitor bugs and tagged them with affects me | 08:30 |
| duflu | tvoss_, New --> Confirmed ? | 08:30 |
| tvoss_ | duflu, nope, only affects me. Can set to confirmed | 08:31 |
| duflu | Please | 08:31 |
| tvoss_ | duflu, I will confirm against xmir | 08:32 |
| tvoss_ | duflu, cannot check on displayport, though | 08:33 |
| duflu | tvoss_: In theory the connector doesn't matter. Mir has no connector-specific code | 08:33 |
| duflu | Anyway, this is Intel, which means DisplayPort + DVI adapter = "HDMI" :) | 08:34 |
| duflu | That's an old bug | 08:34 |
| tvoss_ | duflu, ack | 08:40 |
| * duflu wonders why we don't have an xrandr equivalent for Mir yet | 08:44 | |
| duflu | We have a demo client which shows it's possible. But that's just a toy | 08:45 |
| robert_ancell | RAOF, what's the state of MM10? | 08:59 |
| duflu | robert_ancell: Unchanged for a while. Bugs are against mir/xmir projects with "multimonitor" tag | 09:03 |
| robert_ancell | duflu, is MM10 considered mostly working? | 09:03 |
| duflu | robert_ancell: Hard to judge what mostly would be. I think maybe 30% | 09:04 |
| robert_ancell | ok | 09:04 |
| duflu | robert_ancell: The strangest one is X crashes if you use Control Center to change settings. xrandr works much better, but not 100% | 09:06 |
| duflu | Going | 09:23 |
| duflu | Going | 09:24 |
| duflu | Gone | 09:26 |
| tvoss_ | RAOF, ping | 10:12 |
| === tvoss_ is now known as tvoss|test | ||
| === tvoss|test is now known as tvoss_ | ||
| RAOF | tvoss_: Pong | 10:18 |
| tvoss_ | olli, ping | 10:44 |
| === tvoss_ is now known as tvoss|test | ||
| olli | tvoss|test, pong | 13:12 |
| kgunn | RAOF: vga connected at boot, just checked the xorg log its shows EE backtrace but nothing under it (like crashed before write out) | 14:36 |
| kgunn | right at "updated configuration" where it has output5/12 connected..then post-modeset config | 14:36 |
| kgunn | https://pastebin.canonical.com/96336/ | 14:45 |
| kgunn | to be clear that was pre-boot vga connected....never got past greeter (greeter cycling) | 14:46 |
| kgunn | ok...then i retested vga hotplug and got this https://pastebin.canonical.com/96336/ | 15:06 |
| kgunn | seems different...like it almost reconfigured, but then went thru a bunch of keyboard/trackpad setup then bailed | 15:07 |
| kgunn | huh...hotplug on hdmi worked (with adjusted res) but upon second connect/disconnect....its not alter the second screen res properly to fit it | 15:11 |
| kgunn | but hdmi hotplug seems robust enough to have repeated connect/disconnect | 15:12 |
| kgunn | oh...and on hdmi hotplug...let it sit...not its frozen, can't even vtswitch | 15:14 |
| kgunn | corraction vga hotplug > https://pastebin.canonical.com/96337/ | 15:25 |
| kgunn | seems hdmi hotplug will eventually fail in the same way | 15:25 |
| rigved | hi everyone. | 17:37 |
| rigved | i am running xmir on my 13.10 laptop. | 17:38 |
| rigved | everytime i try to open the dash or click on the shutdown menu item, my system freezes for a 2-3 minutes and then comes back to normal. | 17:39 |
| rigved | everything else seems to be running fine. | 17:39 |
| rigved | can someone help me diagnose the problem? | 17:40 |
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| robert_ancell | RAOF, morning | 23:06 |
| robert_ancell | kgunn, around? | 23:23 |
| kgunn | robert_ancell: hey kinda | 23:42 |
| kgunn | robert_ancell: i was actually thinking about going to bed early and getting up around 4....since images don't usually show up until 1 -ish | 23:43 |
| kgunn | my time... | 23:43 |
| robert_ancell | kgunn, I get slight improvements with MM10, looking at logs I don't think there's been any improvement until then | 23:43 |
| robert_ancell | right | 23:43 |
| robert_ancell | Chris said he'd be here in ~1:15, which means an image in ~2hrs perhaps? | 23:44 |
| kgunn | robert_ancell: what are your results for hot plug? | 23:44 |
| robert_ancell | kgunn, I got it spanning on the greeter once, but it seems a bit random | 23:44 |
| kgunn | robert_ancell: right...but you can't ever get past greeter? | 23:44 |
| robert_ancell | most of the time it mirrors and u-g/XMir restarts quite a bit | 23:44 |
| robert_ancell | I can without the external monitor | 23:44 |
| robert_ancell | otherwise it's a bit random, sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't | 23:45 |
| robert_ancell | I've only seen mirroring inside Unity | 23:45 |
| kgunn | robert_ancell: right...i roughly see the same... | 23:46 |
| kgunn | altho hdmi more stable than vga.... | 23:46 |
| kgunn | which i never would've bet on | 23:46 |
| robert_ancell | yeah! | 23:46 |
| robert_ancell | I'm just testing VGA here | 23:46 |
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