[00:00] <iampoz> I have been messing around with trying to get these updates to work for a few days now
[00:00] <Eduard_Munteanu> It's also funny how debootstrap completely ignores you're missing the key, unless you notice the warning.
[00:00] <dimitry7> I erased it because I had no choise, apt-get nor aptitude worked
[00:00] <mathfreak> iampoz: I suppose that means you already ran sudo apt-get update and sudo apt-get upgrade, then?
[00:00] <iampoz> yes
[00:01] <mathfreak> iampoz: Okay. before we go on to check video drivers, can you tell me what happens when you press ctrl+alt+F7? Feel free to try ctrl+alt+F8/F6 as well
[00:01] <iampoz> although at the very end I get this: "[1]+  Stopped                 sudo apt-get update"
[00:01] <rtorres> buenas tardes
[00:02] <mathfreak> iampoz: That last line should be fine. It just tells you that it's done with what it was doing.
[00:02] <dimitry7> rtorres, buenas las tengas y mejor las pases
[00:03] <iampoz> ctrl alt f6 takes me to the screen with the command prompt asking to log in
[00:03] <iampoz> f7 and f8 does nothing
[00:04] <iampoz> I got back by sudo lightdm
[00:04] <dimitry7> rtorres, se espantó con el alb{ur
[00:04] <mathfreak> iampoz: What do you mean by getting back by sudo lightdm?
[00:05] <iampoz> back to the normal desktop or what I assumed to be called unity
[00:05] <SonikkuAmerica> iampoz: That's what it's called.
[00:05] <reisio> presumably he restarted lightdm
[00:05] <iampoz> yup, thats what I think i did
[00:05] <iampoz> f6 must stop lightdm
[00:06] <SonikkuAmerica> iampoz: ... F6 alone?
[00:06] <iampoz> sorry, ctrl alt f6
[00:06] <mathfreak> iampoz: Oh, no no. ctrl+alt+(function key) just brings you to another session (I forgot the exact vocabulary for it).
[00:06] <rtorres> alguien que sepa eliminar carpetas con error "Permission denied"
[00:06] <mathfreak> iampoz: It's handy when you want to use additional terminals when a graphical desktop isn't available.
[00:07] <user__> Is there an easy way to encrypt after installation of ubuntu 13.....
[00:07] <SonikkuAmerica> iampoz: See mathfreak 's comment. From there it's a service stop.
[00:07] <SonikkuAmerica> iam(and restart)
[00:07] <SonikkuAmerica> iampoz: ^ That.
[00:07] <iampoz> oh i see
[00:08] <vlt> !es | rtorres
[00:08] <mathfreak> iampoz: I have the feeling that it might be something with your mounts at boot that's preventing lightdm from starting. Hopefully, someone a bit more knowledgeable than I can confirm this.
[00:08] <vlt> rtorres: `sudo <comando>`
[00:08] <iampoz> right now unity is working... I have not performed the full update from the update manager, first it said 59 avaiable, the sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade took it down to 16 available
[00:08] <SonikkuAmerica> user__: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PostInstallationEncryption
[00:09] <rtorres> vlt soy root
[00:09] <iampoz> I am already afraid that when I reboot it wont work... and I will have to restore back to an image I saved a few weeks ago
[00:09] <c2tarun> Hi friends, I installed chromium on my Ubuntu 12.04. It somehow activated some keyring password. Now everytime I login into my machine I have to enter that keyring password. What is it? and how can I disable it?
[00:09] <mathfreak> iampoz: One thing before we update, can we look at your /etc/fstab file?
[00:10] <rtorres> vlt:rm -Rf client1
[00:10] <rtorres> rm: cannot remove `client1/web1/tmp': Permission denied
[00:10] <vlt> rtorres: Are you on a virtual server? Or does root just no have the permission to <whatever you tried> with <maybe a file>?
[00:10] <SonikkuAmerica> c2tarun: Probably the GNOME keyring. Did you set it to something different than your username and password?
[00:10] <rtorres> no a virtual server, im root in this machine
[00:11] <SonikkuAmerica> c2tarun: s/username and/<nothing>
[00:11] <vlt> rtorres: Is something else mounted into ...tmp?
[00:11] <iampoz> mathfreak: http://pastebin.com/MPcvUsUC
[00:11] <rtorres> is a dictory into /var/www
[00:12] <rtorres> directory
[00:13] <rtorres> the directory permissions is www-data www-data 4096 Aug  8 03:11 clients
[00:13] <mathfreak> iampoz: I'll honestly say that I have no idea what caused that /tmp mount issue at boot. You can update your system now.
[00:13] <mathfreak> iampoz: Feel free to ask others about the /tmp mount issue, though.
[00:14] <iampoz> well I will try rebooting, if it works then I will update the remaining 16 and hope it reboots after that
[00:14] <vlt> rtorres: What does `stat client1/web1/tmp` say?
[00:14] <SonikkuAmerica> rtorres: Ummm, those are not permissions. Try [ ls -la /var/www ] ]
[00:14] <Eduard_Munteanu> Here's a good example: https://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/releng/
[00:14] <iampoz> if not then I will probobly be back sunday... I have to leave shortly... Thanks for your help mathfreak
[00:14] <rtorres> root@apolo:/var/www# stat clients/
[00:14] <rtorres>   File: `clients/'
[00:14] <rtorres>   Size: 4096      	Blocks: 8          IO Block: 4096   directory
[00:14] <rtorres> Device: ca01h/51713d	Inode: 2949723     Links: 3
[00:14] <rtorres> Access: (0777/drwxrwxrwx)  Uid: (   33/www-data)   Gid: (   33/www-data)
[00:15] <rtorres> Access: 2013-08-23 23:52:06.000000000 +0000
[00:15] <FloodBot1> rtorres: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:15] <rtorres> Modify: 2013-08-08 03:11:02.000000000 +0000
[00:15] <rtorres> Change: 2013-08-23 23:51:40.000000000 +0000
[00:15] <Eduard_Munteanu> Arguably they link to the plain 'http' page for some reason I can't really grok.
[00:15] <c2tarun> SonikkuAmerica, hi, its my system password only, still I have to enter it everytime
[00:16] <SonikkuAmerica> rtorres: Please use the pastebin that ubottu mentioned.
[00:16] <rtorres> ok
[00:16] <rtorres> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6019725/
[00:16] <SonikkuAmerica> c2tarun: Hmmm... Open seahorse (Passwords and Keys)...
[00:17] <c2tarun> SonikkuAmerica, yeah, I can see "Passwords: login"
[00:17] <SonikkuAmerica> rtorres: Your permissions are 0777 (all read/write/list)
[00:18] <rtorres> Yes, but try deleting though, it gives me error
[00:19] <SonikkuAmerica> c2tarun: http://askubuntu.com/questions/867/how-can-i-stop-being-prompted-to-unlock-the-default-keyring-on-boot/224777#224777
[00:19] <SonikkuAmerica> c2tarun: Follow the instructions on that particular post.
[00:19] <c2tarun> SonikkuAmerica, ahh... great. thanks a lot
[00:20] <user__> Is there an easy way to encrypt after installation of ubuntu 13.....
[00:21] <rtorres> any idea?
[00:21] <SonikkuAmerica> c2tarun: BUT: Instead of leaving the login password blank, set it to the same password you use to log into the computer.
[00:21] <mathfreak> user__: What are you trying to encrypt? Just a single file?
[00:22] <user__> No, the entire drive.
[00:22] <vlt> rtorres: What about providing answers to questions first?
[00:23] <rtorres> sorry, did not understand the question
[00:23] <mathfreak> user__: I'm not sure how to encrypt the entire drive after installing Ubuntu. Sorry.
[00:24] <user__> mathfreak, thank you for responding,  I appreciate your time.
[00:24] <vlt> rtorres: What does `stat client1/web1/tmp` say?
[00:25] <mathfreak> user__: If the install is a fresh install, you can try re-installing the OS while ticking the checkbox for full disk encryption, though.
[00:25] <rtorres> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6019746/
[00:26] <user__> mathfreak, yes thank  you, that maybe what I will do.
[00:31] <vlt> rtorres: It’s a directory. Is it empty?
[00:32] <anonymous> help
[00:32] <Guest10763> okei
[00:32] <rtorres> yes, it empty
[00:33] <wiak> any way to trace bootup?
[00:33] <wiak> my ubuntu is slow to boot into system
[00:33] <wiak> :/
[00:41] <OerHeks> wiak, install bootchart
[00:41] <OerHeks> !bootchart
[00:43] <netlar> I have a printer set up already, but want to be able to scan with it too.  How can I add the printer as a scanner too?
[00:44] <PoolShark_> I'm having an issue with a RAID array. I can't mount it in /etc/fstab by UUID because for some reason linux is detecting a UUID from /dev/md0 that is not the correct one.. see here: http://pastebin.com/2EvxxULq
[00:44] <netlar> never mind, it works
[00:45] <PoolShark_> If I put the array's UUID in fstab I get a "serious error" with the array on startup and it falls to a shell... if I use the UUID reported by blkid I get a "no such array" message
[00:50] <rtorres> vlt any idea?
[00:52] <ke-esc> Hi all.. Just installed Ubuntu 13.04 on my  Dell XPS12.. It has an interesting security feature- when I boot the computer, it starts up with the screen completely dimmed and I have to Fn+F5 to increase the brightness.. any way I can disable this "feature"?
[00:53] <daftykins> ke-esc: perhaps the first two links can help: https://www.google.com/search?q=dell%20xps12%20ubuntu%2013.04%20screen%20brightness%20off%20at%20boot&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-GB:official&client=firefox-a&channel=np&source=hp
[00:55] <daftykins> ke-esc: this bug specifically: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1177963
[00:55] <ke-esc> looking now, thanks
[00:56] <daftykins> ke-esc: post #9 suggests adding the boot parameter "acpi_backlight=vendor"
[00:58] <ke-esc> okay, lets give this a try. thank you daftykins
[00:59] <netlar> Are there any database programs similar to filemaker on linux?
[01:01] <bobapplepie> is KDE a lightweight DE?
[01:02] <SonikkuAmerica> bobapplepie: It's lighter than it was, but no.
[01:02] <bobapplepie> is it lighter than unity?
[01:02] <SonikkuAmerica> bobapplepie: No.
[01:02] <SonikkuAmerica> bobapplepie: Almost anything (but GNOME 3) is lighter than KDE.
[01:03] <bobapplepie> ok
[01:03] <reisio> I'd say they are of quite similar "weight"
[01:03] <reisio> GNOME/Unity and KDE
[01:05] <SonikkuAmerica> reisio: At this point I'd guess Unity is lighter than GNOME
[01:05] <LMessi10__> Hello everyone, I have a question. I have a not so new netbook, it is 1.6GHz and 2MB of RAM with HD of 140GB... it is currently with Windows XP, but I was thinking on switching to Linux. Do you guys think Xubuntu 13.04 will have a better performance on it? Or should I stick with XP or maybe a different version of Linux? Thanks,
[01:06] <SonikkuAmerica> LMessi10__: I hope not 2 MB O_o
[01:09] <daftykins> LMessi10__: Xubuntu should be quite a good move, maybe even one of the Linux Mint versions. you could definitely do with getting off XP since support ends in April.
[01:09] <LMessi10__> SonikkuAmerica, haha I meant 2GB haha
[01:10] <SonikkuAmerica> LMessi10__: Yeah, Xubuntu is good.
[01:10] <SonikkuAmerica> daftykins: FLAME TIME for mentioning the M-word. :)
[01:10] <Haggard> Hey guys, had a power outage here that took my systems down. Do I need to run any filesystem checks?
[01:11] <SonikkuAmerica> Haggard: Absolutely.
[01:11] <Haggard> SonikkuAmerica: OK. thx
[01:11] <daftykins> SonikkuAmerica: i thought this was ame... freenode?
[01:11] <daftykins> ;)
[01:12] <perrshp> 1600 crap
[01:12] <SonikkuAmerica> daftykins: roflcopter
[01:12] <LMessi10__> thanks for the tips guys!
[01:12] <SonikkuAmerica> daftykins: soi soi soi
[01:12] <SonikkuAmerica> LMessi10__: Any time! Enjoy Xubuntu! http://xubuntu.org
[01:15] <codepython777> does anyone know what vm does Pubuntu use?
[01:16] <perrshp> pubuntu?
[01:16] <daftykins> dread to think what that ubuntu variant is themed after...
[01:17] <codepython777> perrshp: I'm looking to run ubuntu on windows
[01:18] <SonikkuAmerica> codepython777: VBox? VMware? Other hypervisor?
[01:18] <SonikkuAmerica> !vm | codepython777
[01:19] <SonikkuAmerica> SchrodingersScat: F19 much? :)
[01:20] <SchrodingersScat> SonikkuAmerica: huh?
[01:20] <rtorres> help, how to remove a directory that I have root access but it says permission denied
[01:20] <SonikkuAmerica> SchrodingersScat: Your nick is a portmanteau of the Fedora 19 codename
[01:25] <lapion> so can anyone tell me if the recent usb revelation by ms. Sarah Sharp ( very sharp indeed ) will change the policy of disabling hibernation by default?
[01:26] <codepython777> SonikkuAmerica: I need something that will run without installation. portable.
[01:26] <SonikkuAmerica> codepython777: Can you elaborate?
[01:27] <lapion> and if so if there will be an update to patch this for all affected versions?
[01:28] <White`Rabbit> coupons to buy for 0.4 instead of 0.5, that's a joke right?
[01:28] <travis_> Is there anyone that can help me with a raid issue? I accidentally formatted /dev/mapper/isw_cbdacacdde_Volume0p1. I can still see one of the partitions that was on the array but thats it
[01:29] <White`Rabbit> never got any coupons, bought at 1.05 and now get the awesome right to buy new ones for 0.4 instead of 0.5.. woaw... that surely reduces the average per chip :x
[01:29] <codepython777> SonikkuAmerica: I need to take it with me on a usb drive
[01:29] <White`Rabbit> 0.4 discount to get new ones at 0.1 would balance the average to 0.5!
[01:29] <lapion> travis_, what raid level?
[01:29] <travis_> Raid 10
[01:30] <travis_> "fakeraid"
[01:30] <travis_> I could access all of the partitions up until I rebooted the machine yesterday
[01:31] <lapion> depends if the raid synched the changes
[01:32] <travis_> I'm sure by now it has
[01:32] <travis_> This happened like a month ago
[01:32] <johnjohn101> i hope u had a backup.
[01:32] <travis_> I do
[01:32] <travis_> :P
[01:32] <travis_> Well, of the important stuff at least
[01:33] <travis_> Home partition will roll back a week at least
[01:33] <lapion> all you can do is use photorec to recover nameless files for anyy unbackupped files
[01:33] <travis_> but no biggy
[01:33] <travis_> hmm, at this point I think I'll just throw in the towel
[01:34] <travis_> I have backups :P
[01:34] <Extreminador> where can i edit the left click menu that pop's up in e17 desktop environment ?
[01:35] <lapion> much better whish i could say the same of my systems.. any backups are older then a year
[01:36] <SchrodingersScat> lapion: better get on top of that
[01:36] <travis_> Funny thing is, this happened when I bought my new 3TB drive
[01:36] <travis_> for backups
[01:36] <travis_> Gparted was being a dick when I went to format
[01:37] <travis_> and jump to my raid array
[01:37] <travis_> >,<
[01:37] <travis_> But luckily I made a full backup of my machine :D
[01:38] <travis_> Anyways, thanks!
[01:40] <travis_> One more thing, should I go with "fakeraid" again or use software raid :O
[01:43] <lapion> same difference
[01:44] <SoulRaven> hello
[01:44] <SoulRaven> plase help me with something
[01:44] <SoulRaven> i am try to restart the network services
[01:44] <samijam> This bug says a fix was released on May 1, but there's never been an update that includes it for 13.04.  Is there some way I can get this fix?  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/totem/+bug/883272
[01:44] <SoulRaven> but is not working
[01:45] <SoulRaven> i have tryed: http://bin.cakephp.org/view/1629400643
[01:45] <SoulRaven> but is not working
[01:47] <dsnyders> doesn't linux have the sweep command?
[01:49] <OerHeks> SoulRaven, sudo service network-manager restart
[01:49] <Jordan_U> travis_: Definitely go with mdraid rather than FakeRAID>
[01:50] <travis_> Thats my plan :3
[01:50] <travis_> Just wanted to see if anyone was thinking the same :3
[01:50] <OerHeks> Sweep is an audio editor, you want to cleanup settings with uninstall --purge or cleanup your system with  a tool like bleachit ?
[01:53] <travis_> time to go kill a raid array
[01:53] <travis_> thanks again
[01:54] <dsnyders> Is there an equivalent to the sweep command (run a command in each subdirectory)?
[01:55] <elton_> can someone help me, i have a monitor that supports 1680by900 but ubuntu only detects it up to 1024x768 is this fixable?
[01:57] <daftykins> elton_: i'm pretty certain that resolution doesn't exist. maybe 1680x1050 or 1600x900
[01:58] <gooberluvr> Who can recommend a good gui interface for ubuntu server - I use webmin now.
[02:16] <Jordan_U> dsnyders: find's -exec can probably be made to do what you want. I've never heard of sweep before though, can you link to a man page for it?
[02:33] <wiak> ooh snap
[02:33] <wiak> <- messed up gpt/mbr
[02:33] <wiak> wreel
[02:33] <wiak> anyhow, its a laptop so nothing on it is useful
[02:33] <wiak> :P
[02:33] <wilee-nilee> !enter > wiak
[02:46] <pawan> hi
[02:46] <pawan> disk check on every boot
[02:52] <wilee-nilee> pawan, Have you stopped it everytime?
[02:53] <codepython777> is there a way to run ubuntu inside win 7 without installing? (portable version)
[02:53] <pawan> no
[02:54] <SchrodingersScat> codepython777: like a virtual machine?
[02:54] <holstein> codepython777: a live CD.. in virtualbox.. is not technically installed, and is "inside" virtualbox in windows
[02:54] <codepython777> SchrodingersScat: yes, without install
[02:55] <codepython777> holstein: vbox needs to be installed,right?
[02:55] <holstein> codepython777: just run the live CD in virtualization, and dont install it
[02:55] <SchrodingersScat> oh, like a portable version of vbox?
[02:55] <codepython777> give me a virtualization software for windows - that does not need install
[02:55] <holstein> codepython777: you'll need a virtualization platform to run virtulization, yes
[02:55] <codepython777> SchrodingersScat: There is one, that is unmaintained.
[02:55] <holstein> codepython777: give you?
[02:55] <holstein> codepython777: this is a volunteer channel for ubuntu.. i would ask the windows channel to see what they have to "give" you
[02:56] <codepython777> holstein: I was hoping someone needed portable ubuntu for windows here.
[02:56] <holstein> codepython777: a live CD is portable
[02:56] <SchrodingersScat> codepython777: I thought your problem was you needed a portable VM software within windows
[02:57] <codepython777> SchrodingersScat: indeed.
[02:57] <codepython777> SchrodingersScat: Something that is maintained and works
[02:57] <holstein> codepython777: whats the issue? no admin acces to a windows machine? can you boot a USB stick? or cd?
[02:57] <holstein> codepython777: ubuntu is maintained, and works..
[02:57] <SchrodingersScat> codepython777: not the same thing as a portable ubuntu, that's all I'm saying, sounds like your problem exists with windows
[02:57] <codepython777> holstein: cant boot these machines, and no admin access
[02:58] <holstein> codepython777: then, you need to address that.. *all* of these tools are freely available to you
[02:58] <holstein> codepython777: you'll need to have access to be able to use them..
[02:58] <chiques> has anyone installed clipgrab lately? Everything Google brings up has the same URL and it's not responding (404)
[02:59] <pawan> hi
[03:01] <reisio> chiques: I wonder how it compares to youtube-dl
[03:02] <SchrodingersScat> chiques: i also use youtube-dl, so unless youtube-dl happens to not work for the site you want, you should check it out.
[03:03] <chiques> SchrodingersScat, Thanks
[03:09] <outofsync> i have an old Pentium IV laptop and smplayer can play 720p videos but audio is 3 seconds ahead of video. How can i fix this issue? My OS is Trisquel 6 based on Ubuntu 12.04.
[03:09] <issuewithlivecd> hi, im having an issue with the ubuntu 13.04 livecd. On ubuntu, i get stuck in tty1 (and if i try and type startx I get an error saying no screens detected). My log file says VESA(0): V_BIOS address 0x0 out of range (then some other stuff) and a "Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration" error. Does anyone here know how to fix it, or will I forever be stuck on windows :(  btw the graphics card is a Radeon HD 8400
[03:09] <outofsync> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation NV17 [GeForce4 420 Go] (rev a3)    I use the default nouveau drivers
[03:11] <wilee-nilee> outofsync, That OS is not supported here.
[03:12] <wilee-nilee> outofsync, Try #trisquel
[03:13] <outofsync> wilee-nilee, i did
[03:14] <wilee-nilee> outofsync, Cool, this channel does not support derivatives is all there is #linux if your registered
[03:14] <wilee-nilee> ##linux
[03:18] <pvl1> in a hybrid graphics system, do i have to use the i915 intel driver, cant i just tell it to use fglrx all the way? i installed propriety driver
[03:21] <holstein> pvl1: depends..
[03:23] <pvl1> holstein: on?
[03:24] <holstein> pvl1: chipsets.. driver support.. bios.. many many things.. what *actual* hardware you have.. if the vendor allows it to be controlled by linux
[03:24] <issuewithlivecd> hi, im having an issue with the ubuntu 13.04 livecd. I get stuck in tty1 (and if i try and type startx I get an error saying no screens detected). My log file says VESA(0): V_BIOS address 0x0 out of range (then some other stuff) and a "Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration" error. The graphics card is a Radeon HD 8400 graphics card (1366 x 768 resolution) . If you can help it would be very appreciated
[03:24] <holstein> issuewithlivecd: you mean, you switch to tty and cant swtich back?
[03:25] <pvl1> holstein: should i go back to trying to flgrx in the repos?
[03:26] <holstein> pvl1: i dont think anything in the repos is allowed to support it
[03:26] <issuewithlivecd> @holstein the ubuntu loading bar moves, and instead of loading the desktop environment (where you get the option between trying and installing) it just loads tty1. Switching to tty7/xwindow just gives me a black screen, and when I type startx in tty1 it gives me an error
[03:26] <rich_> hi
[03:26] <holstein> pvl1: i would look for other users doing what you want with the hardware you have
[03:26] <pvl1> holstein: well the root of my problem is the fact that im getting all buncha weird errors trying to use the propriety driver
[03:27] <holstein> pvl1: like?
[03:27] <pvl1> holstein: my problem started with the fact that my laptop would get hot even using gnome fallback without graphics
[03:27] <pvl1> so i figured i should change the driver
[03:27] <holstein> pvl1: getting hot is not "a buncha weird errors", though
[03:27] <reisio> show me a laptop that doesn't get hot and I'll show you a rich man
[03:27] <holstein> pvl1: you many want to revert back to that setup
[03:28] <pvl1> holstein:
[03:28] <holstein> !steam | pvl1
[03:29] <holstein> pvl1: ^ i link that because steam suggests a PPA for newer drivers
[03:29] <holstein> pvl1: ppas are not supported officially, however
[03:29] <pvl1> holstein: so after updating to the latest kernel, my last errors from dmesg state  that there is an error  with the driver
[03:29] <pvl1> hm
[03:29] <pvl1> ima look into this holstein thank you
[03:30] <n28714> ello?
[03:30] <n28714> someone private chat me? i need of assistance
[03:31] <SchrodingersScat> !ask > n28714
[03:31] <dw_> qwer
[03:31] <n28714> -_-
[03:31] <n28714> Someone private chat me?
[03:31] <pvl1> issuewithlivecd: id check the bios graphics settings perhaps?
[03:32] <WallFace> Hi, I just plugged in HDMI from computer to TV, and now my TV is my computer monitor, how do I get them to show the same thing?
[03:33] <WallFace> It shows different work stations and I can't get them to join the same
[03:33] <reisio> WallFace: what graphics/drivers?
[03:33] <WallFace> I don't think it matters?
[03:33] <WallFace> I'm not sure, i see my desktop, and I see the lefft with all the icons
[03:34] <WallFace> I just don't see what I'm looking at
[03:35] <SchrodingersScat> WallFace: the display properties don't help you?
[03:35] <root_gnewsense_o> hi
[03:35] <WallFace> How do I get to them SchrodingersScat
[03:35] <reisio> root_gnewsense_o: hiyo
[03:35] <root_gnewsense_o> I built the kernel for gnewsense, fast and sleek
[03:36] <n28714> i seem to have a problem on ubuntu 13.04, my network-manager is gone and going under system settings >Network gives me an error called "The system network serviced are not compatible with this version"
[03:36] <root_gnewsense_o>  but ONLY in recovery mode
[03:36] <n28714> i typed in a cmd and it vanished, i tried rebooting
[03:36] <root_gnewsense_o> how do I copy the to "live" boot ?
[03:36] <reisio> n28714: cmd? vanished?
[03:36] <root_gnewsense_o> I guess I was working in a RAM disk
[03:36] <reisio> root_gnewsense_o: where is it now?
[03:37] <n28714> anyone mind helping?
[03:37] <reisio> you'll have to answer questions to get help
[03:37] <root_gnewsense_o> in a virtual machine on an xp host
[03:37] <n28714> -_- what questions?
[03:38] <n28714> well?
[03:38] <reisio> n28714: seven lines ago? :)
[03:39] <reisio> n28714: cmd? vanished?
[03:39] <root_gnewsense_o> ubuntu was no roblem at all
[03:39] <reisio> root_gnewsense_o: and where's the system you want to copy it to?
[03:39] <n28714> ._.
[03:39] <root_gnewsense_o> I guess in a ram disk
[03:40] <reisio> root_gnewsense_o: you want to modify a kernel for a live OS?
[03:40] <root_gnewsense_o> the normal boot does not have my kernel changes
[03:40] <n28714> :/
[03:40] <n28714> well no ones gonna help
[03:40] <WallFace> HA
[03:40] <WallFace> Nice
[03:40] <WallFace> got it working
[03:40] <root_gnewsense_o> gnewsense can boot in normal or "recovery" mode
[03:40] <caviezel> Whats up people!
[03:41] <reisio> wallzero: gj
[03:41] <reisio> wallzero: sorry, that guy leaves fast :p
[03:41] <reisio> caviezel: suppah
[03:41] <root_gnewsense_o> recovery mode I built in the changes I need, and with startx it works as I want
[03:41] <root_gnewsense_o> fully working
[03:41] <reisio> root_gnewsense_o: okay where did you build the kernel? Where did you place it?
[03:42] <caviezel> Just chilling watching Jimmy Kimmel.
[03:42] <root_gnewsense_o> vboxadd createss the new kernel
[03:42] <root_gnewsense_o> but I asume in a ram disk
[03:42] <root_gnewsense_o> which is lost on reboot
[03:42] <reisio> root_gnewsense_o: vboxadd?
[03:43] <root_gnewsense_o> virtual box build tool, i'm running XP as a host
[03:43] <wilee-nilee> caviezel, If you want to chat #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:44] <caviezel> Ok
[03:44] <caviezel> My bad.
[03:44] <root_gnewsense_o> I had to explicitly donload the kernel headers etc...
[03:44] <root_gnewsense_o> but it runs fine
[03:44] <wilee-nilee> caviezel, wasn't sure what you wanted just info
[03:44] <root_gnewsense_o> I guess this is a normal problem across flavous
[03:44] <root_gnewsense_o> of linux
[03:44] <n28714> Anyone help? - i seem to have a problem on ubuntu 13.04, my network-manager is gone and going under system settings >Network gives me an error called "The system network serviced are not compatible with this version"
[03:45] <reisio> root_gnewsense_o: not really following you, but if you built something related to a kernel, it exists in a file system somewhere
[03:45] <reisio> root_gnewsense_o: you need only copy it from there to where you want it
[03:45] <root_gnewsense_o> does ubuntu have recovery mode ?
[03:45] <reisio> root_gnewsense_o: using scp would probably be simple, as would be using VirtualBox's guest additions to mount a share
[03:45] <reisio> root_gnewsense_o: yes
[03:46] <root_gnewsense_o> yes I thought the whole point of recovery was to change the REAL system
[03:46] <reisio> you should still be accessing the "real" system in recovery mode
[03:46] <reisio> just less of it at once
[03:46] <root_gnewsense_o> VirtualBox's guest additions is what I want in the normal mode
[03:47] <uronu> good day! May I ask what is the best tools for file sharing?
[03:47] <reisio> root_gnewsense_o: oh is that all?
[03:47] <root_gnewsense_o> it seems to forget all my work (because I am only modifying the RAM disk)
[03:47] <reisio> root_gnewsense_o: http://wvarner.blogspot.com/2008/05/installing-virtualbox-guest-additions.html
[03:48] <root_gnewsense_o> I have installed it
[03:48] <root_gnewsense_o> and USED it
[03:48] <reisio> okay
[03:48] <root_gnewsense_o> in the RAM diisk
[03:48] <n28714> anyone gonna help me?
[03:48] <reisio> root_gnewsense_o: those instructions should work in the "real" environment
[03:48] <reisio> n28714: with what?
[03:48] <n28714> i seem to have a problem on ubuntu 13.04, my network-manager is gone and going under system settings >Network gives me an error called "The system network serviced are not compatible with this version"
[03:49] <n28714> priv chat
[03:49] <root_gnewsense_o> ok thanks I will check them out
[03:49] <reisio> n28714: what version of Ubuntu?
[03:56] <root_gnewsense_o> they would work in normal mode, IF I was in it
[03:56] <root_gnewsense_o> I cannot get into it, becuase my mouse and keyboard dont work in normal mode
[03:57] <root_gnewsense_o> if I could break into a terminal in "normal" mode that would be cool
[03:58] <root_gnewsense_o> can to stop ubunyu or gnewsense from running startx ?
[03:59] <holstein> !text
[03:59] <root_gnewsense_o> cool
[03:59] <holstein> root_gnewsense_o: ^ .. though i would ask in a gnusense channel for that
[03:59] <root_gnewsense_o> I did not popular
[04:00] <root_gnewsense_o> i'm running ubuntu to chat here ;O)
[04:00] <root_gnewsense_o> oh I lie i'm running gnewsense in recovery mode !
[04:01] <holstein> root_gnewsense_o: try the #ubuntu-offtopic channel for chat
[04:01] <root_gnewsense_o> so many OS's
[04:01] <root_gnewsense_o> thanks <holstein>
[04:02] <root_gnewsense_o> while I am here what is the opinion og ubuntu versus gnewsense ?
[04:03] <root_gnewsense_o> I found ubuntu slow and greedy
[04:04] <holstein> root_gnewsense_o: this is the ubuntu support channel.. you are free to compare the 2.. ubuntu has other official versions, such as lubuntu, that are "lighter".. ubuntu is not intended to be light
[04:05] <holstein> !lubuntu
[04:05] <root_gnewsense_o> is gnewsense new ? I'm not biased, yet
[04:06] <holstein> root_gnewsense_o: its just not supported here, friend..
[04:06] <root_gnewsense_o> not allow to chat about anyhing other ?
[04:06] <holstein> root_gnewsense_o: you are mentioning an OS that is not supported, or discussed here. .you can try and instigate a discussion about it in the channel i suggested. otherwise, this is ubuntu support
[04:07] <root_gnewsense_o> I'm trying to decide
[04:07] <holstein> root_gnewsense_o: correct.. please see the /topic and visit #ubuntu-offtopic to chat
[04:07] <root_gnewsense_o> ok i'm not wanted ;O(
[04:07] <holstein> root_gnewsense_o: that is *not* the case at all
[04:08] <holstein> root_gnewsense_o: non-ubuntu support is not wanted here.. but, is freely welcome in the channel i suggested, and the /topic suggests officially
[04:09] <root_gnewsense_o> but there are no users there
[04:09] <developer> as a php developer what should i know about ubuntu
[04:09] <root_gnewsense_o> to chat or not to chat, that is the question
[04:09] <holstein> root_gnewsense_o: then, you are in the incorrect channel
[04:09] <holstein> root_gnewsense_o: #ubuntu-offtopic is busy, right now.. and you are not in it
[04:10] <root_gnewsense_o> there is the rub
[04:10] <root_gnewsense_o> it's all LINUX, I have never seen so much falvourism
[04:10] <root_gnewsense_o> get a grip
[04:11] <holstein> root_gnewsense_o: ?
[04:11] <holstein> !guidelines | root_gnewsense_o
[04:11] <holstein> root_gnewsense_o: i am welcoming you to the appropriate channel.. its in an effort to provide better support here.. you can do *exactly* what you want in the appropriate channel
[04:12] <root_gnewsense_o> even if there is no one there
[04:12] <root_gnewsense_o> cool
[04:12] <holstein> root_gnewsense_o: you are not there
[04:12] <root_gnewsense_o> I am in there
[04:12] <anton02> how do u remove a package thats causing segfault on startup due to bad modules if u cant boot into linux
[04:12] <holstein> root_gnewsense_o: no, you are not
[04:13] <holstein> root_gnewsense_o: it is #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:13] <root_gnewsense_o> #gnewsense AND gnewsense-dev
[04:13] <holstein> root_gnewsense_o: and i think you are in the incorrect channel.. it is quite busy and you are not there
[04:13] <anton02> gnewsense is a nuisance
[04:13] <anton02> how do u remove a package thats causing segfault on startup due to bad modules if u cant boot into linux
[04:13] <R0b0t1> What's default perms for /etc
[04:13] <holstein> anton02: that comment goes in the #ubuntu-offtopic channel as well.. and please dont repeat
[04:13] <R0b0t1> I accidentally
[04:14] <root_gnewsense_o> I thought off channel would be even worse than On channel
[04:14] <R0b0t1> Also, how do I chmod /etc if I can't sudo
[04:14] <anton02> robot: su
[04:15] <R0b0t1> I don't know root's pass
[04:15] <holstein> R0b0t1: recover it
[04:15] <R0b0t1> how?
[04:15] <holstein> http://askubuntu.com/questions/24006/how-do-i-reset-a-lost-administrative-password
[04:16] <root_gnewsense_o> i'll go there I seem to have upset you here, that was NOT my intent, thanks for your help anyway
[04:17] <anton02> how come when i enter recovery mode the root filesystem is read only. kind of defeats the purpose doesnt it
[04:17] <R0b0t1> alright thanks
[04:17] <holstein> anton02: whats the question? how to mount to write?
[04:17] <R0b0t1> holstein, what are the permissions for /etc?
[04:17] <holstein> anton02: mount -rw -o remount /
[04:18] <anton02> holstein: its already mounted
[04:18] <holstein> R0b0t1: what are you trying to do?
[04:18] <R0b0t1> fix it
[04:18] <anton02> oh i didnt see remount
[04:19] <XReaper> lolbuntu
[04:19] <anton02> R0b01: are u too lazy to reset the admin password?
[04:20] <holstein> anton02: i think R0b0t1 is going to fix it..
[04:20] <anton02> XReaper: lolarch
[04:20] <R0b0t1> anton02, I can't, because my permissions on /etc are wrong, which prevents me from sudoing, which prevents me from changing the permissions on /etc
[04:20] <R0b0t1> so
[04:20] <R0b0t1> you see my dilemma
[04:21] <holstein> R0b0t1: you recover the password with the link i gave..
[04:21] <anton02> how did etc permissions get changed
[04:21] <R0b0t1> yeah
[04:21] <R0b0t1> anton02: I accidentally
[04:21] <R0b0t1> now, pls sir, what are you permissions on /etc
[04:21] <R0b0t1> 755?
[04:21] <R0b0t1> yes 755
[04:22] <anton02> R0bot1: you could boot a live disk that gives you sudo permissions
[04:22] <holstein> R0b0t1: http://askubuntu.com/questions/123341/what-are-the-standard-file-permissions-for-the-etc-directoryfile
[04:23] <KxTwo> Anyone rune ps3media server?
[04:23] <anton02> R0b0t1: its not like u can change them before u get root access anyways
[04:24] <anton02> is there an IRC channel for discussion of cracking WPA
[04:25] <holstein> !backtrack | anton02
[04:32] <momodi> hi, everyone
[04:33] <momodi> anyone here
[04:33] <muellisoft> yes
[04:33] <DuncanNZ> momodi: yeah, just ask your question
[04:33] <anton02> yes im here
[04:34] <lilcyber> hello
[04:36] <reisio> 'lo lilcyber
[04:36] <dylan> hello
[04:36] <lilcyber> What's up reisio?
[04:36] <DamianDarc> can anyone help me im having problems booting into ubuntu after a fresh install
[04:37] <DamianDarc> the system hangs on a black screen with a flashing white underscore
[04:37] <holstein> !nomodeset
[04:37] <DamianDarc> thanks ill let you know the results in a but
[04:38] <momodi> there always is a title bar on chromium, how can I make it disappear. I'm using Xubuntu 13.04.
[04:39] <wilee-nilee> momodi, I believe it is in the preferences
[04:39] <holstein> momodi: you can try right click on the window decoration and "use system title bar and borders".. or yeah, i think its in the menu somewhere too
[04:39] <apb1963_> Ubuntu Packages - For whatever reason, Ubuntu has stopped updating Kismet in their repositories.
[04:40] <DamianDarc> the thing about this is it seem to require me to get to the grub boot loader, my system won't even get to that
[04:40] <DamianDarc> it works fine on the live cd though
[04:40] <wilee-nilee> DamianDarc, You using the shift key to show grub?
[04:40] <holstein> apb1963_: they dont just roll.. you get security updates.. i think firefox tries to roll now but thats it AFAIK..
[04:40] <momodi> I searched a lot about this, finally I found a software "maximus" can do this, but maximus do this on my all apps, I only want this works on chromium
[04:40] <apb1963_> roll?
[04:41] <holstein> momodi: you tried unticking the box?
[04:41] <DamianDarc> yes grub won't event load
[04:41] <wilee-nilee> rollimg release
[04:41] <wilee-nilee> rolling*
[04:41] <DamianDarc> im using 13.04
[04:41] <wilee-nilee> DamianDarc, Have you modified grub and are you pressing that key as soon as you power on?
[04:41] <holstein> apb1963_: rolling releases just get new packages as they come and are released.. ubuntu is more of a frozen in time kind of thing
[04:42] <apb1963_> ok, that makes sense holstein
[04:42] <holstein> DamianDarc: i would test the hardware at that point.. did you get a live desktop to come up?
[04:42] <DamianDarc> I have not modified grub at all ys im pressing this key from when it turns on.  This is after a fresh install and there were no errors in the install
[04:42] <apb1963_> So is that why kismet isn't being updated?
[04:43] <holstein> apb1963_: thats what im suggesting that only security updates to that version will come in, as for all packages
[04:43] <wilee-nilee> DamianDarc, Did you install with a usb, and is there more than one HD?
[04:43] <apb1963_> ok
[04:43] <holstein> apb1963_: folks add ppa's, which are unsupported officially, for newer packages
[04:43] <DamianDarc> there are 2 Hard drives, a sata an an IDE one I installe using a disk
[04:43] <apb1963_> ppa's?
[04:43] <holstein> !ppa | apb1963_
[04:44] <apb1963_> got it
[04:44] <wilee-nilee> DamianDarc, Grub might be in the secondary HD's mbr, try boot either.
[04:44] <wilee-nilee> booting*
[04:45] <DamianDarc> alright give me a moment
[04:46] <DamianDarc> AHA! I booted from seond hard drive and it worked
[04:47] <apb1963_> so... is there a recommendation for a wireless package?  I don't have any particular objective in mind other than to see what's out on the airwaves I guess?  Make sure my card is working, learn a little maybe.  Nothing too intense, just some light spying I guess maybe?  One thing for sure, I'd like to see what my own router is putting out.
[04:47] <holstein> apb1963_: no
[04:47] <DamianDarc> Thank so much
[04:47] <reisio> lilcyber: playing with pipelight for netflix
[04:47] <apb1963_> ok
[04:47] <holstein> apb1963_: you can try something like backtrack or kali which are not supported here and ot
[04:48] <wilee-nilee> DamianDarc, Cool you can make sure that the drive it is on is the has grub is inn its mbr with sudo grub-install /dev/sdX  X is that HD's letter like sda or sdb .
[04:48] <wilee-nilee> just run a sudo update-grub afterward
[04:49] <apb1963_> I took a quick look at iwconfig and iwspy... said "hmm..."  and started poking around for info on the net.... TMI... nothing stuck out at me.
[04:49] <jorvis> I just did a fresh install of Ubuntu with Gnome3 and things were working great until I had to deal with NetworkManager - When I click it and then choose "Network Settings" I wait and nothing happens at all.  Nothing ever comes up.  Is there a lot somewhere I should be checking?
[04:50] <wilee-nilee> jorvis, This the gnome 3 version I forget the name or an additional desktop?
[04:51] <jorvis> wilee-nilee:  not sure of the distinction.  I just didn't like Unity and followed a tutorial to install gnome-shell instead
[04:52] <apb1963_> nah, those are penetration tools.. I guess I'm looking for more of a discovery tool
[04:52] <apb1963_> I want the discovery channel :)
[04:52] <wilee-nilee> jorvis, Not sure why its not showing the network settings, however the secondary desktop will use what you have done in the unity desktop for example a autologin to wifi,.
[04:52] <holstein> apb1963_: those tools will be at those resources as well, and ot and unsupported here
[04:52] <lilcyber> discovery channel is awesome
[04:53] <wilee-nilee> jorvis, Can I see that tutorial?
[04:53] <jorvis> wilee-nilee: Yeah, it's autoconnecting my wireless just fine.  I just need to set up VPN now
[04:53] <apb1963_> you mean discovery is included in the packages?
[04:53] <apb1963_> so what's supported?
[04:53] <wilee-nilee> lilcyber, #ubuntu-offtopic is your place
[04:54] <holstein> apb1963_: i mean, your desktop operating system is working as promised.. the tools you are looking for are at the sources i have suggested
[04:54] <jorvis> wilee-nilee: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/04/gnome-3-8-ppa-for-ubuntu-gnome
[04:54] <SchrodingersScat>  apb1963_ what are you trying to do exactly?
[04:54] <lilcyber> alright thanks wilee-nilee
[04:54] <anton02> ehci-pci xhci-jcd causing seg fault. wat do
[04:54] <slixz85> anyone know of them troll fuckers?
[04:54] <slixz85> yeah you and you
[04:54] <slixz85> come to newly created #trollcombat
[04:55] <apb1963_> SchrodingersScat: See what's out there... see what my router is putting out on the airwaves.... and if anyone else is out there...
[04:56] <apb1963_> and see if my card is doing what it's supposed to be doing
[04:56] <holstein> apb1963_: and, none of that is a feature of ubuntu, so its OT here, and not supported, but, you should explore kali if interested
[04:56] <apb1963_> ok, thank you
[04:56] <holstein> apb1963_: you are online.. thats what the manufacterer said it would do
[04:56] <wilee-nilee> jorvis, Only problem is that is a ppa, officially not supported here, the gnome shell 3.6 is in the repos. If you need to remove it use ppapurge
[04:56] <apb1963_> I'm not using the wireless to get online
[04:57] <jorvis> wilee-nilee: that's scary at this point, I'm about to travel for a week and don't want to break everything right before I go.  Are there no logs for network manager I can check?
[04:57] <wilee-nilee> jorvis, Does not mean no one will help, I'm just not sure of the fix is all.
[04:58] <wilee-nilee> jorvis, I tried the 3.8 a while back and found some problems, however 13.10 has it.
[04:59] <wilee-nilee> so there is a development in the repos fpr 13.10, not sure on it in 13.04 is all now jorvis
[04:59] <jorvis> wilee-nilee: Ok, thanks.  I'll keep hunting then
[04:59] <wilee-nilee> jorvis, Cool
[05:01] <jorvis> wilee-nilee: Some logging seems to be found via this command, but nothing is written there when I try to open network settings: grep -i networkmanager /var/log/syslog
[05:03] <wilee-nilee> jorvis, you can navigate to it and just open it.
[05:03] <jorvis> Open what?
[05:03] <wilee-nilee> jorvis, /var/log/syslog
[05:04] <jorvis> Oh, I have no problem reading it from the commandline.  I see entries there, just nothing new when I reproduce the error
[05:04] <wilee-nilee> Doh I missed the networkmanager
[05:05] <caf4926> If I format a External USB HD to ext4, it's no longer writeable, how can I make it writeable to whatever device I connect it to?
[05:05] <lotuspsychje> caf4926: it depends on what other Os/device you wanna branch it?
[05:06] <reisio> caf4926: you can either chown it, or change fstab
[05:06] <reisio> or both
[05:06] <caf4926> it's a portable HD and it will be used on multiple Linux machines
[05:07] <wilee-nilee> caf4926, http://askubuntu.com/questions/158735/how-to-set-permissions-so-that-i-can-read-and-write-to-another-partition
[05:07] <reisio> also you might want to put a little FAT or NTFS partition on it, so if it's plugged into a Windows box, Windows doesn't immediately ask the user if they want to format it
[05:07] <wilee-nilee> caf4926, check the others advice as well.
[05:07] <lotuspsychje> will it be readable for mcs too like this?
[05:07] <lotuspsychje> macs
[05:08] <reisio> well, neither Windows nor Mac OS support ext out of the box, AFAIK
[05:08] <caf4926> chown to everyone?
[05:08] <reisio> oh wait, Lion has native ext support
[05:08] <reisio> so just Windows won't
[05:08] <lotuspsychje> cool
[05:08] <caf4926> I don't use windows
[05:08] <reisio> but seriously, if you plug an ext drive into Windows, it will ask immediately if you want to FORMAT IT
[05:09] <lotuspsychje> reisio: how about other linux Os that doesnt use ext4?
[05:09] <reisio> so either keep an eye on your portable drives, or include at least one tiny partition that Windows understands
[05:09] <reisio> lotuspsychje: will assume it's ext2/3
[05:09] <lotuspsychje> ok
[05:09] <reisio> in which case it'll either mount normally, mount not quite so normally, or not at all :)
[05:09] <reisio> but probably the former
[05:11] <reisio> anyone on an ancient Linux box that can't get an ext4 FS to mount will know why, and how to fix it, though :)
[05:15] <caf4926> chmod 777 >path did it thanks wilee-nilee
[05:16] <lotuspsychje> !yay | caf4926
[05:17] <caf4926> *I have done it before on another one but couldn't just remember
[05:17] <uronu> any advice of what tool will i use for file sharing on ubuntu 12.04?
[05:17] <caf4926> uronu: ubuntu one
[05:17] <reisio> uronu: what's your target audience?
[05:18] <Tantor> ls
[05:19] <uronu> ubuntu clients shared  directory on file server with user permission.
[05:19] <Tantor> Hello. I use ubuntu 12.04 and I am trying to install ledgersmb, however when I try to install it with apt-get I get this error: E: Unable to locate package ledgersmb
[05:19] <Tantor> Has ledgersmb been removed or so?
[05:19] <wilee-nilee> !info ledgersmb
[05:20] <Tantor> universe seems to be enabled as a package source
[05:20] <reisio> uronu: so local network only, or on the internet?
[05:21] <uronu> reisio: local network only
[05:21] <wilee-nilee> Tantor, All I see are debs on the web for it in 12.04, but just a quick glance
[05:22] <Tantor> Where did you find these?
[05:22] <wilee-nilee> https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&output=search&sclient=psy-ab&q=12.04+ledgersmb&gbv=1&sei=qkIYUpTQMeS6iwL5i4H4CA
[05:22] <wilee-nilee> google fooie
[05:24] <lotuspsychje> any alternatives for hydrogen, (techno grooveboxes)?
[05:25] <lotuspsychje> !info lmms
[05:25] <lotuspsychje> oh lemme try that1
[05:30] <reisio> uronu: samba or nfs maybe, or just ssh/fs, or hell a web server is quite simple, or an ftp server
[05:31] <root_gnewsense_o> I raised a problem earlier, I fixed it on my own, the problem was a .xauth in boot if anyone was interested
[05:32] <dswhite85> has anyone here tested the new pipelight plugin to allow netflix to work in a browser like chrome/firefox?
[05:33] <yet-zero> join #python
[05:34] <Gerald> never heard of it. googling now
[05:40] <uronu> reisio: thanks.
[05:46] <home555> m
[05:48] <saki`> when you do something like wget http://lulz.com/blabla.zip
[05:48] <saki`> does it download to the current directory you're in
[05:48] <saki`> or what?
[05:49] <nowayride> Yes
[05:49] <IdleOne> yes
[05:49] <yet-zero> yes, current directory
[05:49] <yet-zero> you can man wget
[05:50] <saki`> oh right
[05:50] <saki`> thanks
[05:50] <saki`> also
[05:50] <saki`> actually nvm
[05:53] <yet-zero> anyone has good books about python socket programming?
[05:54] <lotuspsychje> yet-zero: thats not really an ubuntu question mate
[05:54] <lotuspsychje> yet-zero: try #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:55] <yet-zero> OK, i know.
[05:55] <yet-zero> thx
[05:59] <scx> helo
[05:59] <scx> hello*
[05:59] <scx> how to disable team speak 3 client autostart at logon?
[06:00] <lotuspsychje> scx: does't it show in your startup items?
[06:01] <scx> lotuspsychje: i checked all startup items and services
[06:01] <scx> there is no teamspeak entry
[06:02] <schmock> Hi @ all
[06:02] <lotuspsychje> scx: did you check your /home with enable hidden folders?
[06:03] <lotuspsychje> scx: maybe config is over there
[06:03] <schmock> I have a little problem: I installed ubuntu 12.04 LTS on my laptop in dual boot mode together with win 7. All worked fine. I updated 12.04 to 12.10 and after that, whenever I was launching ubuntu, it crashed shortly after it started loading ubuntu.
[06:03] <lotuspsychje> !info teamspeak-client
[06:04] <lotuspsychje> scx: or man teamspeak?
[06:04] <lotuspsychje> schmock: did you try update-grub ?
[06:05] <scx> lotuspsychje: yes: $ grep -E "ts.?client" ~/.*
[06:05] <nowayride> schmock what was the crash output? Ubuntu can be finicky on updates sometimes
[06:05] <nowayride> Or what stage did it crash
[06:05] <scx> lotuspsychje: i dont have man for teamspeak - i installed it from *.tar.* to /opt/
[06:05] <schmock> lotuspsychje: I am quite new to this, where can I access it? In advanced options for ubuntu in the boot selector screen?
[06:06] <lotuspsychje> scx: are you on ubuntu server?
[06:07] <schmock> nowayride: I selected ubuntu in the bootloader, then the screen turned ubuntu violet and then there was some sort of graphically visible crash (about 5 secs in) and then everything was pitch black and nothing happening for quite a while.
[06:07] <lotuspsychje> schmock: in terminal: sudo update-grub and reboot, if it crashes, try a recovery/failsafeX from grub
[06:08] <scx> ok, i found problem: there was symbolic link tsclient to team speak client and i have installed tsclient (terminal server client, not ts3client)
[06:09] <nowayride> schmock: This is server? When grub is starting hit a, it will bring you to an edit line, add nosplash and remove quiet if present, should show you boot sequence
[06:09] <scx> lotuspsychje: ^^
[06:09] <lotuspsychje> !yay | scx
[06:09] <nowayride> It is nosplash and remove quiet right? That's off the top of my head and the servers I deal with don't use plymouth or whatever
[06:10] <scx> anyway, thanks for help
[06:10] <lotuspsychje> nowayride: you mean nomodeset?
[06:10] <nowayride> Isn't that for X11?
[06:10] <lotuspsychje> nowayride: or removing 'quiet splash' to see text boot?
[06:10] <stobix> hi! Is there a way to make X spew out the (automagic) config it has right now? I'd like to make a base xorg.conf with the stuff it imagines I have, and build from there.
[06:10] <nowayride> Maybe that's it
[06:11] <lotuspsychje> !text
[06:11] <nowayride> X -configure?
[06:13] <schmock> lotuspsyche: nowayride: It's for desktop (running on laptop). With my skills I think lotus' approach seems feasible to me. nowayride's approach just seems a little over the top for me... ;) Either way: thanks a lot!
[06:13] <lotuspsychje> schmok: good luck! mostly recovery from grub might work
[06:14] <nowayride> schmock: it's the same place, just different options but yeah try to get a picture of where it fails if you need to hit up the chat again, more specific errors = more chance we know what might be wrong
[06:14] <lotuspsychje> schmock: depending on what went wrong of course
[06:16] <lotuspsychje> schmock: and even a better idea, single install ubuntu on your laptop and loose windows once and for good :p
[06:16] <schmock> lotuspsychje: nowayride: Alright. I'll give it a shot. If I come back here, I hope I will be able to provide something more specific as the logic behind more details = higher chance of success is something I do understand. :)
[06:16] <lotuspsychje> schmock: good luck
[06:17] <schmock> lotuspsychje: I am not ready for that yet... ;) Also: so far I tried ubuntu only through wubi and it has been rather nervwrecking at times... And win 7 had proven to be a good security line to be able to do at least something with my laptop. :D
[06:18] <lotuspsychje> schmock: i really recommend making an ubuntu live usb with diskcreator
[06:19] <nowayride> schmock: also, 12.04 is pretty good bet for server BTW. If you need GUI stuff desktop is fine, but server 12.04 is LTS meaning it will be updated long after 12.10 and even 13.04 go out.
[06:19] <lotuspsychje> schmock: ubuntu will be far more stable then your win7 and more secure
[06:19] <nowayride> ^ Desktop for 12.10 and 13.04 and stuff
[06:20] <schmock> lotuspsychje: that's why I am still willing to give it another go :)
[06:20] <nowayride> lotuspsychje: Win 7 really isn't that bad on stability, well if you don't download crudware, but yeah schmock Ubuntu is nice and secure :)
[06:20] <lotuspsychje> schmock: and if you come back in chat here we will help you around
[06:20] <nowayride> You get loads more control over what your OS does too
[06:20] <schmock> nowayride: I just also have to be able to handle that.... ;)
[06:20] <lotuspsychje> nowayride: we can discuss w7 in ot mate :p
[06:21] <nowayride> Hehe that's okay :P
[06:21] <am42> can anybody help out a noob with an fgrlx driver issue?
[06:21] <lotuspsychje> am42: what goes wrong for you mate?
[06:21] <schmock> nowayride: lotuspsychje: ok, I'll give it a try then! Thanks a lot for the quick and friendly help! Much appreciated! :)
[06:22] <lotuspsychje> schmock: anytime!
[06:22] <am42> lotus: getting unmet dependency errors in the terminal when i try to install
[06:22] <am42> with broken packages
[06:22] <lotuspsychje> am42: what ubuntu version?
[06:23] <am42> 12.04.3
[06:24] <lotuspsychje> am42: might be usefull if you could pastebin that for us
[06:25] <am42> lotus: pastebin.com/w71a4QnT
[06:27] <lotuspsychje> am42: maybe this can help: http://askubuntu.com/questions/193140/cannot-install-ati-amd-proprietary-fglrx-graphics-driver-systemerror
[06:41]  * Dr_Willis looks around..  'its dead Jim!'
[06:43] <nbubuntu> hi , I read the release note , but I still can't understand technically on it.What is Enablement Stack means ? I saw a new roll out of 12.04.3 release today
[06:44] <nbubuntu> May I know what's the difference Enablement Stack on kernel ?
[06:46] <Dr_Willis> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack    This?
[06:47] <Dr_Willis> Updated kernel and stuff to support new hardware on 12.04.X from what im reading.
[06:49] <Dr_Willis> bbl
[06:49] <nbubuntu> Dr_Willis : which and what kind of new hardware needed it ? Since I plan to upgrade my pc
[06:49] <nbubuntu> Dr_Willis : It doesn't list down which hardware required for the release
[06:50] <caf4926> ssh over the net ? I have it working over the LAN, what might I need to do to enable it over the net?
[06:51] <lotuspsychje> !ssh | caf4926
[06:51] <nowayride> caf4926: if it's working over LAN and not internet, you probably need to set port forwarding on your router.
[06:52] <caf4926> nowayride: I figured. But how would I address the server
[06:53] <nowayride> How do you mean? You'd just access it from your WAN IP
[06:54] <caf4926> nowayride: let me clarify... I ask because I have a client who I visit for the first time on Monday and I want to get this clear in my head
[06:55] <caf4926> nowayride: I have a feeling it's going to matter that his ISP uses dynamic addresses
[06:56] <nowayride> His? No. The address you connect from doesn't matter, the address you connect to does
[06:56] <nowayride> The exception is if he has firewall rules for outbound traffic, but it's very unlikely he will be firewalling SSH to a server
[06:57] <caf4926> nowayride: His IP from his ISP is dynamic
[06:57] <nowayride> caf4926: you are connecting from a computer via ssh TO a server?
[06:57] <caf4926> on his server
[06:57] <caf4926> sorry
[06:58] <nowayride> Is his server what's on the dynamic address?
[06:58] <caf4926> nowayride: yes
[06:59] <nowayride> Okay so he's setting up a server on a dynamic address from his ISP, and wants people from other locations to connect to his dynamic IP from SSH?
[06:59] <caf4926> nowayride: :-) yes
[06:59] <nbubuntu> May I know what's the difference Enablement Stack on kernel 12.04.3 vs 12.04 ? which new hardware required the new kernel ?
[07:00] <nowayride> That's generally not a good idea for reliability, but one option is he could use something like dyndns to keep a record of his IP, but generally you can't always rely on a home connection
[07:00] <caf4926> nowayride: this is what I figured
[07:01] <caf4926> nowayride: As I understand it, he has data processing running on the machine and needs to access it
[07:01] <nowayride> Dyndns is his best bet though, if the odd outage is acceptible. It seems like ISP IPs don't change around as much as they use to (I've had an IP for half a year at a time on TWC)
[07:02] <nowayride> It's not a guarantee but as long as he has an internet connection dyndns should keep the IP record updated
[07:03] <caf4926> nowayride: I did wonder if the data could be stored in a cloud for access
[07:03] <expo987> how do I calibrate the color profile in ubuntu?
[07:04] <antii> hi
[07:04] <expo987> through the command line would be best
[07:05] <antii> i'm having trouble installing ubuntu 12.04. I can boot it up but i never get to the setup. I get the following messages in dmesg.. http://pastebin.com/62XcECsY
[07:07] <antii> gonna try this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132
[07:10] <atomickitten> Might be the wrong place to ask this, but... whenever I try to run VLC, it won't load! I can click on it in the menu (I'm using MATE in case that's relevant), or I can try to click on a media file, but it still won't work... :( When I try to run it from the command line, it spits out a few lines of text then it says somthing at the end about a segmentation fault. Could that be the problem? Please help! D:
[07:12] <lotuspsychje> atomickitten: maybe this can help: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1581569
[07:13] <atomickitten> tried that, didn't work :/
[07:14] <ikonia> atomickitten: is there a mate package in the ubuntu repos ? I thought it was totally unsupported on ubuntu ?
[07:14] <ikonia> atomickitten: and a segfault is the problem for sure, but what's causing the segfault is the key
[07:14] <atomickitten> I had to add some extra repository thing
[07:14] <atomickitten> I kinda doubt it has to do with my DE because it won't run from the command line either. Could be wrong though. Assuming you guys know it better than I do...
[07:15] <ikonia> atomickitten: I suspect it's going to be that (as an easy explination) as VLC works fine with the supported desktop
[07:15] <ikonia> and as mate is pretty much a dead codebase that people are trying to keep a alive
[07:15] <ikonia> atomickitten: the command line.....just launches the gui
[07:15] <atomickitten> another relevant piece of info is that I've run it from MATE a bazillion times before, but it stopped. I have no idea what changed
[07:16] <atomickitten> well it didn't launch anything when I entered the vlc command
[07:17] <atomickitten> it just says...
[07:17] <ikonia> ...because it segfaults
[07:17] <atomickitten> VLC media player 2.0.8 Twoflower (revision 2.0.8a-0-g68cf50b) [0x1c2f108] main libvlc: Running vlc with the default interface. Use 'cvlc' to use vlc without interface. Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[07:17] <lotuspsychje> !info vlc
[07:17] <Berengar> morning ^^
[07:18] <lotuspsychje> Berengar: welcome, what can we do for you
[07:18] <atomickitten> so what command should I be entering to test it?
[07:18] <Berengar> so guys, question: my ubuntu (12.04) doesn't boot on kernels newer than 3.5.0-36 anymore. now i noticed that for those newer kernels there isn't an initrd image when i run sudo update-grub . could this have something to do with it?
[07:18] <ikonia> atomickitten have you tried cvlc which won't use any desktop interface
[07:18] <lotuspsychje> atomickitten: i think what ikonia says makes sense, vlc should work out of the box on ubuntu
[07:18] <ikonia> atomickitten: that way you can have at least a clue it's nothing to do with mate
[07:19] <atomickitten> I did try it, and it started some kind of other prompt
[07:19] <ikonia> atomickitten: ok, so you then have an idea that vlc is working - but the displaying of vlc isn't
[07:19] <atomickitten> I'm guessing there's some VLC commands I type in there or something.
[07:19] <atomickitten> sounds like it
[07:20] <ikonia> atomickitten: which suggests an issue with the "visual" or "desktop" component
[07:20] <ikonia> atomickitten: try it with a different DE and confirm it works/doesn't work there
[07:20] <atomickitten> but it worked on MATE before. It worked up until really recently, but I don't know what changed that could have caused this
[07:20] <lotuspsychje> atomickitten: anything in logs maybe?
[07:20] <ikonia> atomickitten: because mate is a dead codebase that no-one is developing for, it's possible that an update to vlc broke it's compatability with the legacy code of mate
[07:21] <ikonia> atomickitten: or a mate update, just had a bug/glitch in it, due to it being maintained by other people who may have made a mistake,
[07:21] <atomickitten> alrighty
[07:21] <nbubuntu> May I know what's the difference Enablement Stack on kernel 12.04.3 vs 12.04 ? which new hardware required the new kernel ?
[07:21] <lotuspsychje> atomickitten: try #mate for any other vlc issues
[07:21] <ikonia> eg: the function that is "gnome-2-support" the vlc developers may have dropped that function because gnome-2/mate is deae
[07:21] <ikonia> dead
[07:21] <ikonia> (just as an easy example)
[07:21] <atomickitten> I'll boot into the default Ubuntu environment
[07:21] <atomickitten> if that doesn't work, I'll be back
[07:22] <Berengar> :\
[07:22] <lotuspsychje> Berengar: what actualy happens when trying to boot a higher kernel?
[07:23] <Berengar> lotuspsychje something like kernel panic, root fs not found
[07:24] <Berengar> when i look at the boot arguments for the newer kernels it just links to /dev/sda3, for the kernel that works it links to a UUID
[07:25] <twenty-three> hi guys, i have reinstalled ubuntu 13.04 a couple of weeks ago and i have this issue where the buttons to adjust brightness don't actually change the brightness of the screen, i am using a sony vaio laptop
[07:25] <lotuspsychje> Berengar: using uefi?
[07:25] <convoi> i have a question about sound device on linux lite, should i ask here?
[07:25] <twenty-three> how do i fix this?
[07:26] <Berengar> lotuspsychje i don't know? this motherboard is 4 years old though, so i doubt it :D
[07:26] <lotuspsychje> convoi: this is an ubuntu support channel mate
[07:27] <convoi> thank lotuspsychje, i found the solution in #linuxlite
[07:29] <kisuke> ok, running lubuntu raring, any clue why synaptic would randomly freeze?
[07:31] <lotuspsychje> Berengar: maybe this can help: http://askubuntu.com/questions/219563/cant-even-try-ubuntu-due-to-error-failure-reading-sector-0x5b500-from-hd1
[07:32] <Berengar> lotuspsychje i just tried to run update-initramfs and i get a cannot open script error even though the package (initramfs-tools) is installed, maybe that's the root of the problem? :o
[07:32] <lotuspsychje> Berengar: not sure mate, maybe doublecheck your logs
[07:34] <atomickitten> Alright, I was unable to get the classic Ubuntu interface to work for some reason. Windows would show up, but they'd be without borders so I guess there's no window manager running. However, I tried it in LXDE and straight OpenBox and it still didn't run. I think it's safe to say it's not MATE's fault.
[07:34] <vipul_> Could any one help me out in knowing the difference between kernel programming and device driver programming?
[07:34] <ikonia> atomickitten: openbox is also not an ubuntu desktop
[07:35] <atomickitten> well, regardless, I'm pretty certain that's not the problem.
[07:35] <ikonia> atomickitten: no you're not certain at all
[07:35] <lotuspsychje> vipul_: maybe the dev guys might help you
[07:35] <atomickitten> This is something I know is possible because I've done it before. I'm not asking to do something that can't be done, I'm just asking how to fix it so it was the way it was before.
[07:35] <ikonia> atomickitten: mate brings in a set of libraries for the desktop to run, there is possabilities they are the problem/part of the problem
[07:35] <lotuspsychje> !dev | vipul_
[07:35] <atomickitten> Okay, cool. BUT VLC worked fine with MATE until recently.
[07:36] <ikonia> atomickitten: as I told you that means nothing
[07:36] <atomickitten> how could it mean anything?
[07:36] <ikonia> it's useful to know it did work - but adds no value to the current issue
[07:36] <atomickitten> There's absolutely zero corellation
[07:36] <lotuspsychje> atomickitten: never heared a vlc segment fault on regular ubuntu before..
[07:36] <atomickitten> how many problems do you get on a daily basis that you've never encountered before?
[07:37] <ikonia> atomickitten: there is also a possibility that you have have a hardware problem, they are a common reason for sefgaults
[07:37] <lotuspsychje> atomickitten: try an ubuntu livecd and vlc
[07:37] <Berengar> lotuspsychje i just reinstalled the initramfs-tools package. created the initrd images for the newer kernels and ran update-grub. cross fingers, ima reboot ;o
[07:37] <lotuspsychje> Berengar: good luck!
[07:37] <atomickitten> That's a thought
[07:38] <ikonia> atomickitten: or an update to the video card module / against your hardware is causing a display problem
[07:38] <atomickitten> hmm, strange. Rhythmbox won't load either.
[07:38] <lotuspsychje> atomickitten: no issues show in your /var/log/syslog.1?
[07:38] <ikonia> atomickitten: define "won't load"
[07:38] <ikonia> atomickitten: does it segfault ?
[07:39] <atomickitten> not sure yet, finding out
[07:39] <atomickitten> by "won't load" I mean, I click on the icon in the menu and nothing happens
[07:39] <atomickitten> "rhythmbox: error while loading shared libraries: libGL.so.1: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS32"
[07:39] <ikonia> 32bit.....
[07:40] <atomickitten> I'm using a 64bit system
[07:41] <lotuspsychje> atomickitten: maybe it stime to reinstall good ol ubuntu :p
[07:41] <ikonia> atomickitten: are you using nvidia modules by any chance ?
[07:41] <atomickitten> damn. Just did a reinstall last week
[07:41] <lotuspsychje> atomickitten: try 13.04 64bit and your vlc will work again
[07:42] <atomickitten> No, but now that you mention it, the one change I made recently was installing a driver for my graphics card. It's AMD.
[07:42] <atomickitten> and actually, this is probably pretty relevant because this does seem to coincide with the time VLC stopped working at all
[07:43] <ikonia> atomickitten would it be fair for me to guess you installed this direct from ati...rather than the ubuntu package manager ?
[07:43] <atomickitten> yes I did
[07:43] <lotuspsychje> :p
[07:43] <ikonia> I think I see the problem......
[07:43] <atomickitten> I was unaware you could do this through the package manager >.<
[07:43] <ikonia> !ati | worth reading atomickitten
[07:44] <ikonia> it's a little dated, but the concepts are still the same
[07:44] <atomickitten> Crap. I remember seeing that article months ago when I made my first Ubuntu install on this machine.
[07:44] <ikonia> I think we have a winner
[07:44] <atomickitten> I just did it the lazy way the second time
[07:44] <Berengar> lotuspsychje it worked :D
[07:45] <nbubuntu> May I know what's the difference Enablement Stack on kernel 12.04.3 vs 12.04 ? which new hardware required the new kernel ?
[07:45] <lotuspsychje> !yay | Berengar
[07:45] <atomickitten> I suppose I'd need to undo what I installed straight from AMD before I did anything there?
[07:45] <ikonia> atomickitten: and this is the restult of being a little sloppy, if you can try to use the official tools, official repos etc etc
[07:45] <lotuspsychje> Berengar: and found it yourself!
[07:45] <nbubuntu> What's the difference between 12.04 vs 12.04.2 vs 12.04.3
[07:45] <atomickitten> To be fair, it's the way I was used to on Windows. Make a new install, go find the vendors sites and start downloading/installing shit.
[07:45] <ikonia> atomickitten: hand on heart, I'd clean install this (unless you have important data) and walk through everything you've done but making sure you use the correct processes to set your machine up properly.
[07:45] <Berengar> lotuspsychje i have a new problem though :D
[07:45] <backtrack> = =
[07:45] <ikonia> atomickitten: yeah, that approach will not work in ubuntu
[07:46] <lotuspsychje> Berengar: spit it out :p
[07:46] <CountryfiedLinux> Is there a way to add optional menu widgets to the lxpanel?
[07:46] <atomickitten> jesus, ANOTHER reinstall. Just so I can listen to Daft Punk. It's gonna be a long night. :P
[07:46] <ikonia> atomickitten: you don't have to do a new install
[07:46] <CountryfiedLinux> what's daft punk?
[07:46] <Berengar> lotuspsychje with the new kernel the network manager doesn't connect automatically to my home wlan anymore. it's not even showing up in the list, i have to use the manual "connect to hidden network" option
[07:46] <ikonia> atomickitten: I just think you'd be better off, anything you don't know how to setup, just ask rather than having a guess
[07:47] <ikonia> atomickitten: that way the end goal will be stable.
[07:47] <atomickitten> CountryfiedLinux: a musical group
[07:47] <CountryfiedLinux> I know who CM Punk is
[07:47] <atomickitten> Technically, I did ask. I asked google. Google gave me the AMD site with their drivers and I thought "Okay sweet. It's that easy!"
[07:47] <nbubuntu> ikonia : May I know what's the difference Enablement Stack on kernel 12.04.3 vs 12.04 ? which new hardware required the new kernel ?
[07:48] <ikonia> nbubuntu: check the release notes,
[07:48] <ikonia> atomickitten: google is not "asking" it's people storing information, it doesn't mean it's right, has experience, is relevent to your specific situation
[07:48] <ikonia> atomickitten: it's a good source of info, but shouldn't be followed blind
[07:48] <atomickitten> trtue
[07:48] <atomickitten> Well guys, I appreciate all your help. Lesson learned the hard way.
[07:49] <atomickitten> You might be seeing lots of me, considering how inept I am, apparently :P
[07:50] <kisuke> atomickitten: we all have to start somewhere.
[07:50] <lotuspsychje> Berengar: your ssid changed to not broadcast?
[07:50] <atomickitten> take care
[07:50] <nbubuntu> ikonia : The release note doesn't list out which hardware to upgrade .Lets say haswell processor and new z87 Motherboard , which one should I install ?
[07:50] <Berengar> lotuspsychje i didn't change anything on the AP/router
[07:51] <ikonia> nbubuntu: what do you mean, "which one should I install"
[07:52] <nbubuntu> ikonia : 12.04 vs 12.04.2 vs 12.04.3
[07:52] <ikonia> nbubuntu: install the latest one available
[07:52] <lotuspsychje> Berengar: maybe new wifi driver after update?
[07:52] <ikonia> nbubuntu: think of them as service packs
[07:52] <ikonia> (if that helps)
[07:52] <nbubuntu> ikonia : ok, then will download it thanks :)
[07:52] <msi> ку
[07:52] <CountryfiedLinux> I haven't had any freeze-ups since upgrading to 12.04.3
[07:52] <lotuspsychje> Berengar: what wifi card chipset?
[07:52] <CountryfiedLinux> I'm using eOS
[07:53] <ikonia> eOS ??
[07:53] <CountryfiedLinux> Elementary OS Luna
[07:53] <ikonia> CountryfiedLinux: ok, so you know that's not supported in this channel right ?
[07:53] <CountryfiedLinux> ikonia, I didn't ask for support
[07:53] <lotuspsychje> oO
[07:53] <ikonia> CountryfiedLinux: no no, I'm just checking you know
[07:53] <Berengar> lotuspsychje lsusb says "Bus 001 Device 002: ID 07d1:3c0a D-Link System DWA-140 RangeBooster N Adapter(rev.B2) [Ralink RT3072]"
[07:54] <msi> кто с россии
[07:54] <msi> есть такие/
[07:54] <lotuspsychje> !ru | msi
[07:54] <argo> msi, I`am
[07:54] <nbubuntu> ikonia : btw , what's the different between cd and dvd version for 64bit ?
[07:54] <ikonia> nbubuntu: it's all DVD size now
[07:54] <kisuke> ok, running lubuntu raring, any clue why synaptic would randomly freeze after changing the state of a package, dmesg|tail shows nothing relevant
[07:55] <nbubuntu> ikonia : ok thanks , I saw wrongly 12.04
[07:55] <argo> msi, only englsih plz
[07:55] <msi> sory
[07:55] <expo987> could someone help me? My screen is really blue, how do I adjust the color profile?
[07:55] <lotuspsychje> !wifi | Berengar
[07:55] <msi> im from rusian
[07:55] <argo> msi, good for you
[07:57] <Berengar> well thanks, i'll check it out :)
[08:00] <nbubuntu> ikonia ; Thanks again , gtg will leave the download overnight :)
[08:00] <JohnC_> ho to move a Primary partition to Extended?
[08:00] <JohnC_> *how
[08:01] <JohnC_> ?
[08:01] <ikonia> JohnC_: you can't, you need to delete the partition and create it inside the extended containers
[08:01] <JohnC_> ikonia, so I need free space?
[08:01] <JohnC_> *unallocated
[08:02] <ikonia> you either need free space to make an extended partition, or an existing extended partition to place your new one in
[08:02] <JohnC_> ikonia, ok
[08:02] <argo> JohnC_, Boot disk with acronics or etc. can do it. Boot need shutdown os.
[08:02] <argo> *but
[08:03] <JohnC_> argo, ok
[08:04] <JohnC_> so how to move unallocated space in Extended partition?
[08:05] <auscompgeek> Hey guys. How would one go about making /usr/bin/python point to Python 3 without breaking things?
[08:06] <wilee-nilee> JohnC_, clone it with clonzilla, and delete the original make the new partitions and reload, you just change the partition number in the clone to the new one is all
[08:06] <wilee-nilee> you need and external or place for the clone is all
[08:07] <JohnC_> wilee-nilee, oh ok
[08:07] <stobix> hm. fglrx seems to break my radeon card whenever it is (automagically?) installed. Can I tell the package managers not to touch it in any way?
[08:08] <argo> JohnC_, http://gparted.sourceforge.net/display-doc.php?name=moving-space-between-partitions
[08:08] <wilee-nilee> JohnC_, If you had the free space you could just copy paste it with gparted, but it sounds like thatis not an option.
[08:08] <argo> JohnC_, if u have GUI
[08:09] <JohnC_> wilee-nilee, yup, I dont have enough free space.
[08:09] <JohnC_> argo, ok.
[08:11] <stobix> Right now, some system seems to have installed fglrx for me again, which means that unless I remove it before restarting, I'm stuck with some "oops, we crashed your card" VESA driver.
[08:12] <Moseco> I have just installed Ubuntu 13.04 and when i restart after the installer finishes i get a message saying could not find bootable device, can anyone help with that?
[08:13] <nowayride> Moseco: did you select "install boot loader on /dev/sda" ?
[08:13] <wolffff> Moseco,  are there any external storage devices connected to your computer while trying to boot?
[08:13] <nowayride> Or Grub rather
[08:15] <Moseco> No, just the ssd i installed the os on
[08:15] <Moseco> I had an empty ssd and i installed through a cd and i just clicked next through it
[08:15] <wilee-nilee> Moseco, You have more than one HD?
[08:16] <Moseco> I had a hd for windows and i have an older hard drive that i reformated and installed ubuntu on
[08:16] <Moseco> When i installed ubuntu i had only the 1 hd connected
[08:16] <wilee-nilee> Moseco, grub might have gone to the other HD's mbr, what windows release?
[08:17] <wilee-nilee> ah one connected
[08:17] <Moseco> I didnt have that drive connected at the time
[08:17] <wilee-nilee> Moseco, You install with a usb?
[08:17] <Moseco> I have an intel dx58so motherboard with the latest bios if that matters
[08:17] <Moseco> With a CD
[08:17] <wilee-nilee> Moseco, Ah uefi?
[08:18] <nKf> hi. are there any known problems with kernel 3.8.0-29 ? two different computers freeze from time to time since last update.
[08:18] <Moseco> I believe i have that set so it doesnt only use that
[08:18] <wilee-nilee> Moseco, This a W8 dual boot?
[08:19] <Moseco> I have 2 HDs one for windows and a seperate for ubuntu, but i only had the ubuntu Hd connected during install
[08:19] <wilee-nilee> Moseco, Your missing that I'm trying to conform this uefi setup that comes with W8.
[08:19] <wilee-nilee> confirm
[08:19] <Moseco> I have W7
[08:20] <wilee-nilee> Moseco, The point here is uefi, here is some specific install parameters is all.
[08:20] <wilee-nilee> has*
[08:21] <Moseco> Im not quite understanding you
[08:21] <Moseco> For UEFI boot, if im remember correctly i have the exclusive UEFI disabled
[08:22] <Moseco> Because i had a problem with windows 7 boot earlier
[08:22] <wilee-nilee> Moseco, Yes I can tell, if you have a uefi setup the installs are different for that. That is to some extent true on the disable, however all the manufacturers have there own little versions and it is not that simpe.
[08:23] <wilee-nilee> simple always.
[08:24] <Moseco> Ok
[08:24] <wilee-nilee> Moseco, You might look here on this thread, and this mod is your best help in general on uefi, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2147295
[08:24] <Moseco> Thanks
[08:24] <wilee-nilee> Moseco, Sounds like you have read the uefi wiki already.
[08:24]  * lotuspsychje really hates dualboots
[08:25] <wilee-nilee> been doing it for years no biggie, I have 4 OS here.
[08:25] <lotuspsychje> :p
[08:26] <wilee-nilee> all mbr however
[08:26] <lotuspsychje> i rather like the power of a clean installed Os single hd
[08:28] <wilee-nilee> I need ms word for papers is all and got the student  discounts, so I use W8, not a bad OS really
[08:29] <lotuspsychje> sold my soul to ubuntu for years now :p
[08:29] <wilee-nilee> I started on ubuntu, and acquired MS with a computer install, so a bit backwards. ;)
[08:30] <long> hello
[08:30] <lotuspsychje> long: hi mate what can we do for you
[08:30] <long> hi
[08:30] <wilee-nilee> purchase not install
[08:30] <long>   someone??
[08:30] <cfhowlett> long, no one?
[08:30] <lotuspsychje> long: you can try asking a question first?
[08:30] <cfhowlett> !ask|long
[08:32] <peitao> hi
[08:32] <peitao> anyone?
[08:32] <cfhowlett> peitao, greetings
[08:32] <cfhowlett> !ask|peitao,
[08:32] <reisio> peitao: salutations
[08:32]  * cfhowlett ... senses minor league trolling
[08:33] <reisio> hey hey, a little humor never got a goat eaten :)
[08:33] <peitao> can you speak Chinese?
[08:33] <cfhowlett> !cn|peitao,
[08:38] <kisuke> any one know the command for apt-get to downgrade a package?
[08:39] <wilee-nilee> kisuke, You can install synaptic and do it and lock it if needed.
[08:40] <wilee-nilee> or purge and install the version needed for apt-get
[08:40] <wilee-nilee> from
[08:40] <kisuke> wilee-nilee: not an option i need to downgrade synaptic. im getting hit with the bug where synaptic will lock up after any given action
[08:40] <kisuke> wilee-nilee: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/synaptic/+bug/1178024 see comment 13
[08:40] <wilee-nilee> kisuke, Purge it and install the version needed
[08:42] <kisuke> wilee-nilee: i think i may have just borked it, aparently lubuntu-desktop depends on synaptic. this will be interesting few minutes
[08:43] <wilee-nilee> kisuke, It's in lubuntu stock yes, you have the option to yes or no on any apt commands, ou can get the deb of the one you need probably and just install that way
[08:44] <wilee-nilee> you*
[08:44] <matthias_> Slart: hey how are you?
[08:44] <expo987> i installed gnome color manager but it won't open... someone help?
[08:45] <lotuspsychje> expo987: try to launch from terminal, see what it says
[08:46] <wilee-nilee> kisuke, If the remove is removing packages you need copy and paste them from a list to a gedit to save the list, and reinstall them, without the synaptic
[08:46] <wilee-nilee> remove is*
[08:49] <wilee-nilee> expo987, You mentioned the  blue earlier, could it be a graphics driver?
[08:49] <expo987> wilee-nilee: Nah, it's fine, I'm just trying to adjust the color profile
[08:49] <expo987> it's a subtle thing
[08:50] <wilee-nilee> cool, not sure on opening the color manager never used it
[08:51] <expo987> wilee-nilee: it looks like the default adobe 'rgb' color profile
[08:51] <wilee-nilee> expo987, I thinks its called color in the menu
[08:52] <wilee-nilee> comes up in synapse here in 13.04
[08:52] <matthias_> i've got a problem with python, i've got a date: 2013-08-26 but how can i remove the '-' and make it to 20130826
[08:54] <matthias_> i've got a problem with python, i've got a date: 2013-08-26 but how can i remove the '-' and make it to 20130826
[08:56] <holyguyver> I am having trouble with my scanner & I want to see if it is a problem with the scanner or my libsane It has worked on all previous Ubuntu's until now
[08:57] <holyguyver> So can someone tell me how to turn on my scanner's lamp? I want to see if at least that is working.
[08:58] <holyguyver> ...Am I the only one in here?
[08:58] <reisio> holyguyver: what make/model?
[08:58] <reisio> no dude, the reisio doesn't sleep, let's be serious
[08:58] <cfhowlett> reisio, vampire?
[08:58] <holyguyver> reisio: Hewlett-Packard ScanJet 6300C
[08:59] <holyguyver> It has worked on every Ubuntu from Dapper Drake until the one before the current one.
[09:00] <reisio> holyguyver: using hplip?
[09:00] <holyguyver> reisio: yap
[09:00] <reisio> oh, really?
[09:00] <reisio> the hplip site says scanjet is libsane alone
[09:01] <holyguyver> reisio: What's your point?
[09:02] <wilee-nilee> he's a Zombie
[09:02] <holyguyver> A Vampire, get it right
[09:02] <kisuke> wilee-nilee: i got it just ended up installing lubuntu-desktop after i locked the version of synaptic.
[09:03] <wilee-nilee> kisuke, Cool I was a little worried I had forgotten the lubuntu or lxde, part I had seen you mention earlier
[09:04] <wutang> what's cracking homebois?
[09:04] <voltagex> hi, I'm getting a black screen after GRUB when trying to boot a liveUSB via UEFI
[09:04] <holyguyver> reisio: Yes I have HPlip installed, & yes I know Scanjet 6300C is 100% sane compliant, so what are you saying?
[09:05] <holyguyver> voltagex: UEFI! *vomits*
[09:05] <kisuke> wilee-nilee: yeah apt-get is adament that lubuntu needs synaptic for lubuntu-desktop, fourtunatly, most *nix systems will run with a nuked drive.
[09:05] <voltagex> holyguyver: when it works, I get 3 second boot times
[09:06] <wutang> what does nuked mean?
[09:06] <reisio> holyguyver: I was saying that hplip's website says it's nothing to do with hplip, that's all ;)
[09:06] <holyguyver> reisio: Well I have HPlip just in case :p
[09:06] <reisio> wutang: as if a nuclear bomb had been dropped upon them*
[09:06] <reisio> that is: they take a beating
[09:06] <wutang> that's quite a beating
[09:06] <reisio> good story about that here: http://justpasha.org/folk/rm.html
[09:07] <reisio> holyguyver: heh
[09:07] <kisuke> wutang: someone running rm with recursive and force switches on root.
[09:07] <holyguyver> voltagex: This computer has UEFI, never again! I hate it.
[09:07] <reisio> I think I actually bricked a scanner with sane once
[09:07] <kisuke> reisio: so its not "sane" any more is it?
[09:07] <holyguyver> reisio: I have done everything short of shaking this baby.
[09:08] <reisio> well this was many years ago, so it may well be saner now? :p
[09:08] <reisio> moments after bricking it I bothered to read the notice that the following if done incorrectly could brick it, so :p
[09:08] <holyguyver> reisio: I have tested it, the track still works, the scanner still slides, but no lamp turns on & it doesn't scan.
[09:09] <holyguyver> reisio: I even tried installing an older version of sane.
[09:09] <reisio> know how to do that?
[09:10] <holyguyver> reisio: so if you would please just tell me how to turn my lamp on?
[09:11] <holyguyver> I want to see if the lamp is burned out or something.
[09:11] <reisio> I wonder if sane even has a unified lamp toggle command
[09:11] <reisio> does hp-scan do anything? :p
[09:12] <holyguyver> reisio: xsane has a turn lamp off button, but I want to turn it on.
[09:12] <reisio> holyguyver: heheheh, the iony
[09:12] <reisio> irrrrony
[09:12] <wutang> I have a 300GB hard drive that's been running pretty much non-stop for 10 years
[09:12] <wutang> no problem
[09:12] <wutang> they don't make them like they used to haha
[09:12] <holyguyver> reisio: Unable to locate package hp-scan
[09:13] <nowayride> wutang: how would you know, there aren't any new drives that have been running for 10 years yet :P
[09:13] <wutang> hipsters don't use hard drive
[09:13] <wutang> they're too mainstream
[09:13] <holyguyver> wutang:  I have an 8 year old drive.
[09:13] <reisio> nowayride: unless...
[09:13] <reisio> wutang: dude, tell me what stock to invest in
[09:14] <wutang> non-Japanese Asian equities
[09:14] <reisio> heh
[09:14] <holyguyver> reisio: peas or even cattle if you are into livestock.
[09:15] <holyguyver> yokel couldn't take my joke
[09:15] <holyguyver> reisio: so any lamp button?
[09:16] <holyguyver> I need to rub the lamp! *Poof* What do you wish of me?
[09:16] <nowayride> Also... inb4 "#Ubuntu-offtopic" :P
[09:17] <holyguyver> Jekyll: I cannot Hyde how much I love Wildhorn's musical
[09:19] <reisio> holyguyver: what's the button text exactly?
[09:19] <reisio> maybe we can figure it out from the xsane source ;)
[09:19] <holyguyver> reisio: "Turn Off Lamp"
[09:20] <reisio> hmmm
[09:20] <reisio> s/h/hr/
[09:21] <reisio> string doesn't occur
[09:24] <reisio> but it does in the actual sane code :)
[09:26] <holyguyver> reisio: So what should I do?
[09:30] <reisio> probes 17...
[09:30] <holyguyver> reisio: ? What part of me are you probing?
[09:32] <reisio> I don't know if they have separate code just for a light test
[09:32] <reisio> I wonder if the hardware even knows how to do that on its own
[09:32] <reisio> what've you been running?
[09:33] <holyguyver> reisio: what do you mean?
[09:33] <reisio> oh you've been using xsane, not a command :)
[09:33] <holyguyver> reisio: Yes
[09:36] <alfreddba> am using ubuntu 12.04 LTS..i installed virt-manager and also installed centos 6.4...now from centos i cant not connect internet..pls guide me...
[09:37] <holyguyver> reisio: Nothing?
[09:38] <alfreddba> kvm centos not connecting internet pls guide me
[09:39] <reisio> holyguyver: you said you did an update and it stopped working?
[09:39] <cuack> Hello, do IPv4 packets with a wrong checksum get delivered to a socket?
[09:39] <reisio> alfreddba: what does CentOS say about lspci | grep -i net
[09:41] <reisio> holyguyver: try 'scanimage' on its own
[09:42] <Guoerkemer> yo
[09:42] <Guoerkemer> anybody there?
[09:42] <alfreddba> reisio: lspci command not found
[09:42] <cfhowlett> alfreddba, best to ask kvm or centos.
[09:43] <Guoerkemer> I'm looking to install Ubuntu, but I only have 21GB free on my C drive, how much storage does Ubuntu use to install and would it be possible to install it on an external hard drive?
[09:43] <cfhowlett> Guoerkemer, stock ubuntu runs about 6 or 7 gigs not counting data
[09:43] <b0x> it only requires ~6gb for install
[09:43] <cfhowlett> Guoerkemer, external install, but a PITA
[09:43] <b0x> think the setup says 5.7gb of free space
[09:44] <b0x> 20gb should be fine for dual boot
[09:44] <Guoerkemer> cfhowlett what's a PITA?
[09:44] <Guoerkemer> b0x When I turn my computer on, how do I choose which OS to run?
[09:44] <cfhowlett> Guoerkemer, google it, amigo
[09:44] <Guoerkemer> Once Ubuntu is installed
[09:44] <mousy> Is there still a bricking problem on Samsung ultrabooks, if so, are there specific models affected?
[09:45] <holyguyver> reisio: the update was to the latest ubuntu, & i don't know how to use scanimage
[09:45] <cfhowlett> mousy, emergency kernel upgrade fixed it (allegedly) ...
[09:45] <reisio> holyguyver: just type 'scanimage' and hit enter, for starters
[09:45] <DJones> Guoerkemer: UBuntu installs a boot loader which appears first when you switch the computer on, it gives you a menu to choose which os to run, by default it'll wait about 10 seconds before booting into Ubuntu, although you can change that
[09:46] <Guoerkemer> Alright thanks, I might give it a go, although not really sure yet
[09:46] <holyguyver> reisio:  scanimage: no SANE devices found
[09:47] <reisio> insane ones? :p
[09:47] <reisio> holyguyver: scanimage -L ?
[09:47] <holyguyver> reisio: No scanners were identified. If you were expecting something different,
[09:47] <holyguyver> check that the scanner is plugged in, turned on and detected by the
[09:47] <holyguyver> sane-find-scanner tool (if appropriate). Please read the documentation
[09:47] <holyguyver> which came with this software (README, FAQ, manpages).
[09:48] <alfreddba> kvm not accessing network
[09:48] <reisio> holyguyver: well you could try that
[09:48] <reisio> holyguyver: what does dpkg -l | grep -i sane | grep -i hp say?
[09:49] <reisio> alfreddba: lspci might need root
[09:49] <alfreddba> reisio:
[09:49] <holyguyver> reisio: it is plugged in, xsane recognises it & when I click scan or preview the scanner moves on its track but the lamp does not turn on & it doesn't scan anything, & then xsane says there is a communication error
[09:49] <Guoerkemer> Any of you guys ever tried Tails OS?
[09:49] <reisio> holyguyver: what does dpkg -l | grep -i sane | grep -i hp say?
[09:50] <alfreddba> reisio: root only its says command not found..
[09:50] <reisio> Guoerkemer: probably someone has
[09:50] <reisio> alfreddba: lspci? Ew
[09:50] <holyguyver> reisio: dpkg -l | grep -i sane | grep -i hp ii  libsane-hpaio  3.13.3-1   i386 HP SANE backend for multi-function peripherals
[09:50] <linux|newb> Guoerkemer: no, but there was an article on stealth flavours in Linux Format last month... did you take a look?
[09:50] <alfreddba> reisio: cent os
[09:51] <alfreddba> reisio: centos
[09:51] <reisio> you said
[09:51] <holyguyver> GNU+Linux!
[09:52] <reisio> agreed
[09:52] <holyguyver> GNU is the best OS in the world!
[09:53] <reisio> hear hear
[09:53] <holyguyver> !GNU
[09:53] <linux|newb> lol
[09:53] <alfreddba> reisio:   02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller (rev 02)
[09:53] <reisio> alfreddba: where'd you get that?
[09:53] <alfreddba> reisio: local maschine
[09:54] <reisio> hrmm? Need it from the guest OS
[09:54] <reisio> you need to make sure you centos has the driver for the VM virtual network adapter
[09:54] <alfreddba> reisio: guestos command not found..
[09:54] <holyguyver> !Ubotu I love you!
[09:54] <reisio> I know, which is why it confused me when you pasted that :p
[09:55] <ljetibo> Hello, I need help in networking department for Ubuntu 10.4 run on Virtualbox is this the right place to ask this?
[09:55] <holyguyver> !Ubottu are you intelligent?
[09:55] <holyguyver> reisio: So what did that latest thing I gave you tell you?
[09:56] <holyguyver> I liked Ubottu better when he only had 1 t & when he knew what love was.
[09:57] <holyguyver> !love
[09:57] <ljetibo> well, I'm going to ask it anyway :D. http://askubuntu.com/questions/336354/virtualbox-suddenly-doesnt-connect-to-networks so it's basically as the links states, I've been having this problem for 2 days now
[09:57] <reisio> holyguyver: not much
[09:58] <ljetibo> I've also checked in the resolve.conf file and it was empty, if that information does you any good
[09:58] <reisio> resolv
[09:59] <holyguyver> reisio: sane recognises it & when I click scan or preview the scanner moves on its track but the lamp does not turn on & it doesn't scan anything, & then xsane says there is a communication error
[09:59] <reisio> nothing happens suddenly on a compute
[09:59] <ljetibo> yes, resolv.conf not resolve
[09:59] <reisio> computer*
[09:59] <reisio> unless your hardware has failed, which is rarely the case
[09:59] <holyguyver> reisio: so it does all of that while sane reports no sane devices
[09:59] <reisio> holyguyver: yeah, it could still be missing support and just fudging what it does do
[09:59] <reisio> maybe talk to #sane
[10:00] <reisio> and not to get too off track, but hardware supported by hplip... ♥
[10:01] <holyguyver> This is Insane!
[10:18] <tom_> hi
[10:19] <ljetibo> hi tom
[10:21] <manik> Does anybody know how to enlarge the Lubuntu Menu?
[10:22] <dubey> Hello
[10:22] <manik> hi
[10:23] <ljetibo> hi dubey
[10:23] <dubey> I am facing a strange issue with my EC2 instances. When i tried to login to the instance, it kind of freez for some time and after 2-3 min. it let it in.
[10:23] <dubey>  I tried -vv and found that shell stops at "debug2: channel 0: open confirm rwindow 0 rmax 32768" stage
[10:24] <dubey> It is happening for some nodes but not all
[10:24] <linux|newb> dubey: can't help but out of interest, how's the hosting?
[10:25] <dubey> it is Amazon AWS
[10:25] <dubey> get this : debug2: channel 0: request window-change confirm 0
[10:25] <dubey> ubuntu@cloud:~$ debug2: client_check_window_change: changed
[10:26] <linux|newb> dubey: no... how is it, like do you find it good?
[10:26] <manik> hello?
[10:26] <dubey> for around 10-20 min to login or if login happens fast i can't even run "ls" command till 10-20
[10:27] <dubey> Yes
[10:27] <linux|newb> :-s
[10:30] <manik> Does anybody know how to enlarge the Lubuntu Menu?
[10:30] <bob666> hi ! I have setup a VM with raw access to hdd partitions in Win7. Now, from windows host I am trying to boot up the VM with ubuntu installer CD.
[10:31] <bob666> when the cd boots, it gets stuck with the text: "there is an unclean partition of windows (0,0). trying to fix..."
[10:32] <bob666> and gets stuck forever. its quite natural that win partition wud be unclean.
[10:32] <bob666> Can i not just skip the unclean check ?
[10:37] <ljetibo> bob666: can't you just use some tool to wipe the disc clean? You know completely format the partition you gave to VM
[10:37] <bob666> the cm has access to the entire hd. few partitions are rw and rest ro (windows partitions)
[10:38] <bob666> *vm
[10:38] <bob666> when the installer boots, it sees the entire hd. and tries to clean it.
[10:39] <linux|newb> bob666: there's something poetic about the vm 'cleaning' the windows
[10:40] <bob666> linux|newb: frankenstein's monster :P
[10:40] <bob666> ljetibo: when the installer boots, it sees the entire hd. and tries to clean it.
[10:41] <nbubuntu> hi I need help , how do I resize my column nautilus ?
[10:43] <gvo> nbubuntu: Can't you grab the line between columns (titles) and drag
[10:43] <nbubuntu> gvo : I can drag it to increase the column wide but not decrease
[10:44] <gvo> It probaby won't go smaller than the largest entry for that column, in some cases.
[10:45] <nbubuntu> gvo : nope , only 1 file was in it and the name was as short is "test"
[10:45] <gvo> What column are you trying to resize?
[10:46] <gvo> There is a minimum width, it appears to be just a bit bigger than the column title width.
[10:46] <nbubuntu> gvo : normal column
[10:46] <gvo> WHich normal column?
[10:47] <gvo> Name type date???
[10:47] <nbubuntu> gvo : Name only
[10:48] <gvo> Well, it does have a minimum size.
[10:48] <bob666> is it not possible to skip checking for unclean partitions while booting the installer ??
[10:48] <nbubuntu> gvo : no matter how I resize the date too , when I open back the folder it change back to default
[10:49] <nbubuntu> gvo : how to edit it ? I try gconf-editor but I can't find which directory to edit
[10:49] <gvo> Don't know.
[10:51] <nbubuntu> gvo : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1109450
[10:52] <gvo> file a bug report.
[10:52] <nbubuntu> gvo : brb restart pc
[10:59] <nbubuntu> gvo : where does those column setting save location?
[10:59] <efxlab> hey
[11:00] <efxlab>  ~/.bashrc are not created by default ?
[11:00] <phogg> efxlab: not necessarily
[11:01] <nowayride> efxlab: might be .profile, is it in /etc/skel to copy over?
[11:01] <efxlab> I would like add :  force_color_prompt=yes
[11:01] <efxlab> in 	 ~/.bashrc
[11:01] <efxlab> but it doesn't seem load
[11:01] <efxlab> I try .profile
[11:01] <phogg> efxlab: Where do you expect it to have an effect?
[11:02] <efxlab> http://ubuntugenius.wordpress.com/2011/07/11/how-to-change-the-command-line-prompt-colour-in-the-ubuntulinux-terminal/
[11:02] <nickkontos> hello, ubuntu 13.04 here with gnome shell 3.8.3, after first restart, the shutdown option in alternative menu that I installed from gnome-shell-extensions is replaced with a log out and nothing I do will get shutdown back... Searched for this persistant log out button but...
[11:02] <efxlab> I would like to have a bit more color in bash
[11:04] <abrkn> in an upstart script where i use "setuid ubuntu" and "setgid ubuntu", why is $USER not set?
[11:05] <nbubuntu> gvo : where does those column setting save location?
[11:08] <tamiya> Can someone explain why Postfix (the MTA) is installed by default? I use Thunderbird/Zimbra as my mail client with Gmail. Would removing Postfix break anything? eg POP, SMTP?
[11:10] <linux|newb> I have an NFS share on ubuntu 12.04 server which I've added 192.168.1.* to permissable clients
[11:10] <tamiya> anyone?
[11:11] <linux|newb> however, from debian laptop where I have a 192...1 address one wlan0, on eth0 I have a 169 address
[11:11] <linux|newb> so when I try and mount nfs share
[11:11] <linux|newb> it tells me server is denying
[11:11] <linux|newb> best method to combat?
[11:12] <linux|newb> don't want to add 169...
[11:14] <nbubuntu> where does those column setting save location?
[11:20] <tanveer> hi all
[11:20] <tanveer> i copied files from xp into my ubuntu 12.04, now i cant find them, space is still occupied
[11:22] <tanveer> any body?
[11:23] <ljetibo> how did you copy them?
[11:23] <ljetibo> did you use a shared folder, or do you have guest additions installed and then drag and drop option enabled?
[11:24] <ljetibo> (I'm presuming here that you too have a VM)
[11:24] <tanveer> ljetibo, sorry it was external drive and i just copy paste
[11:26] <linux|newb> tanveer: pasted to where?
[11:26] <andrea1x2> Hello guys, are you interested in online betting? i have created this website for you http://bet40.site40.net/
[11:26] <ljetibo> well that's weird :D.... try copying something else (something small). Just copying from an usb device shouldn't be anyything problematic. You might have been careless and accidentaly pasted it to a folder you didn't see. You can try searching for it, but something tells me you already did.
[11:27] <tanveer> i pasted it in a drive which was mounted in W
[11:28] <linux|newb> tanveer: ls -l /locationYouPastedTo
[11:28] <linux|newb> tanveer: ls -al /locationYouPastedTo
[11:28] <tanveer> i did used ls -l command
[11:29] <linux|newb> tanveer: I misspoke - meant -al
[11:30] <tanveer> ok thanks
[11:30] <aguitel> how make more faster ubuntu ?
[11:32] <linux|newb> aguitel: xfce as opposed to Unity?
[11:32] <borsuk> hello
[11:33] <borsuk> I installed Ubuntu but I during instalation I did not find any option to encrypt the whole drive. Was it removed?
[11:33] <linux|newb> borsuk: still exists
[11:33] <borsuk> Is it hidden or sth?
[11:33] <linux|newb> not TMK
[11:33] <andrea1x2> are you interested in online betting?
[11:34] <MonkeyDust> andrea1x2  wrong channel
[11:34] <linux|newb> borsuk: just install encfs after the fact
[11:34] <psy^> lol andrea1x2
[11:35] <DJones> andrea1x2: Thats not really a topic for the Ubuntu support channel
[11:35] <tanveer> linux|newb, it is not showing disappeared folders
[11:35] <linux|newb> tanveer: disappointing
[11:36] <linux|newb> tanveer: locate -name foo
[11:36] <linux|newb> tanveer: from dir
[11:36] <borsuk> @linux|newb Can I somehow return to DOS state of my machine and install Ubuntu again? Because AFAIK I need to download 500mb+ os-uninstaller
[11:36] <tanveer> ok i try
[11:37] <MonkeyDust> borsuk  os uninstaller?
[11:37] <linux|newb> borsuk: 13.04?
[11:37] <max64> I have (HP compaq 6730s) laptop .. ite temperature gets about 80 degrees in less than 30 min .. sometimes it gets frozen .. how to reduce electricity consumption and make the laptop less heat?  thanks
[11:37] <borsuk> yes, I want to remove my Ubuntu 13.04 and install a new one
[11:37] <Kartagis> following https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution#Adding_undetected_resolutions, how can I find out what my options for output are? for ex., I have a HDMI output but xrandr --addmode HDMI said HDMI is invalid
[11:37] <MonkeyDust> borsuk  use a live cd, run gparted, delete the ubuntu partition
[11:39] <borsuk> MonkeyDust I cannot - when I try to boot Ubuntu Live from USB, the old Ubuntu starts, don't know why
[11:39] <linux|newb> borsuk: then just insert live cd, choose install and then guided entire disk
[11:39] <linux|newb> borsuk: change boot device in cmos setup
[11:39] <borsuk> I did
[11:39] <borsuk> wait, CMOS setup?
[11:39] <borsuk> I changed in BIOS, is it not enough?
[11:40] <linux|newb> borsuk: in this instance, they're one in the same
[11:40] <MonkeyDust> borsuk  because your BIOS has to 'boot from USB flash drive'
[11:40] <ljetibo> @max64: how old is the laptop. SOmetimes just taking it to get serviced helps because they vacuume it or blow the dust out with a compressor.
[11:41] <borsuk> MonkeyDust I set it in my BIOS, still old Ubuntu starts
[11:41] <borsuk> Could I break something when installing for the first time?
[11:42] <MonkeyDust> borsuk  then how would you install a new ubuntu?
[11:42] <max64> ljetibo .. it is 4 years old .. last time maintained was 2 years ago
[11:42] <borsuk> MonkeyDust I don't like the current one for several reasons - i.e. I forgot to ncrypt the whole drive
[11:43] <MonkeyDust> borsuk  yes, but if you cant boot from USB, how did/will you install ubuntu?
[11:43] <borsuk> I want a fresh start :)
[11:43] <borsuk> It worked then
[11:43] <ljetibo> @max64: what I can basically tell you is that overheating is rarely caused by software and it's almost always hardwares fault.
[11:44] <borsuk> Now it can't
[11:44] <max64> ljeribo: is leaving laptop without maintainance may cause harms?
[11:45] <borsuk> help pls
[11:45] <MonkeyDust> borsuk  how did you install ubuntu the first time?
[11:46] <ihre> My DIY NAS crashed this morning, and I could find the following in my logs: http://dpaste.com/1355022/ How can I identify the actual problem ?
[11:46] <borsuk> MonkeyDust I booted from USB, it worked then. Now it seems to be broken
[11:46] <ljetibo> max64: sometimes. Depends on how clean your room is, if you dust often if you have long hair (trust me on that one, I have long hair and everytime I take it to get cleaned ~once a year they pull out 15m of my hair out of it
[11:47] <MonkeyDust> borsuk  what seems to be broken? the usb stick?
[11:47] <max64> :D
[11:47] <borsuk> MonkeyDust Can't really tell. When I try to boot it, the old Ubuntu starts
[11:48] <borsuk> MonkeyDust (and I set the BIOS to boot from USB)
[11:48] <MonkeyDust> borsuk  first find out what goes wrong, then repair it
[11:48] <MonkeyDust> borsuk  is the usb stick physically damaged?
[11:49] <borsuk> MonkeyDust :D yeah, but how can I check what is broken? The usb disk seems to be alright.
[11:50] <MonkeyDust> borsuk  disk or stick?
[11:50] <borsuk> MonkeyDust It seems like Ubuntu on USB "knows" that Ubuntu is already installed
[11:50] <borsuk> MonkeyDust stick
[11:51] <zizazi> have a friend with a "windows dead" computer (AMD Athlon XP 1800+ 1.53 GHz, 512 MB RAM) .... tried lubuntu which works ok in live mode but crashes during install... how to proceed?
[11:52] <lantizia> zizazi, we'd need more information on the crash - but remember the live cd doesn't need the hdd to work - so if the hdd is faulty that's why the live cd works but installing doesn't
[11:52] <ihre> zizazi: I had the same yesterday, went to install the 13.04 mini.iso, and installed ubuntu-desktop afterwards
[11:52] <lantizia> zizazi, and a possibility for why windows doesn't work now
[11:53] <zizazi> lantizia: windows works but is extremely slow
[11:53] <X-User> hello, I am trying to install this https://launchpad.net/indicator-sysmonitor , better to download .deb file and install or adding a PPA and install via terminal?
[11:54] <zizazi> lantizia: crash with lubuntu does not allow me to get info after; i get message saying i will be able to report bla bla but no it doesnt happen, i can only force shutdown manually
[11:54] <nowayride> X-User: up to you, the PPA would keep it updated though
[11:54] <nowayride> But that's an extra PPA too (not that it matters much)
[11:54] <lantizia> zizazi, did the graphical install manage to appear or is this before that?
[11:55] <zizazi> yes graphical install ok
[11:55] <zizazi> ihre: thanks; that's maybe an idea for me to try
[11:56] <lantizia> i install my ubuntu every time using the mini.iso method - but i'm picky about what I want installed :)
[11:56] <X-User> nowayride, the last update for that software was in 2012-06-30 , so I don't think that the developer is still active.
[11:56] <lantizia> namely MATE :P
[11:56] <gordonjcp> zizazi: "crashes during install" isn't terribly helpful.  What *exactly* happens?
[11:56] <Xethron_> hello
[11:56] <nowayride> X-User: some software can go a few years without update, but yeah .deb wouldn't be a bad idea for stuff like that
[11:57] <zizazi> what are minimum requirements for mini iso? also what comes by default? gui?
[11:57] <Xethron_> my entire system just crashed
[11:57] <Xethron_> refuses to boot
[11:57] <MonkeyDust> !mini | zizazi
[11:57] <Xethron_> boots into busybox
[11:58] <Xethron_> it seems to fail on mounting something
[11:58] <anonee> hello, how do i find out the currently set DNS server? I tried $ cat /etc/resolv.conf but it says it's dynamic set?
[11:58] <X-User> nowayride, ok, thanks.
[11:59] <zizazi> gordonjcp: install goes for some 10 minutes or so and then i get message that installer crashed and i will be able to generate report on exit... but in fact icant even exit... after waiting a lot i force shutdown manually
[11:59] <zizazi> MonkeyDust: thanks
[11:59] <anonee> !DNS
[11:59] <X-User> Xethron_, what is the output while booting?
[12:00] <gordonjcp> zizazi: okay, but what is the actual error?
[12:01] <Xethron_> X-User: im on my tablet. so ill try rettype
[12:01] <zizazi> gordonjcp: installer crashed error... is that not possible? that's the message i get (though not in english)
[12:01] <Xethron_> X-User: the last error seems to be
[12:02] <zizazi> zizazi: my impression is something lighter than lubuntu will work
[12:02] <Xethron_> X-User: well, first mounting /root failed: Invalid argument
[12:02] <gordonjcp> zizazi: you should be able to to bring up a more detailed description
[12:03] <gordonjcp> zizazi: what's the spec of the machine you're installing on?
[12:03] <X-User> Xethron_, maybe you should try to add a keyboard with that.
[12:03] <zizazi> AMD Athlon XP 1800+ 1.53 GHz, 512 MB RAM
[12:03] <Xethron_> X-User: then /root/sys and /root/proc failed
[12:04] <zizazi> ubuntu mini is lighter than lubuntu as i understand
[12:04] <Xethron_> and lastly i got
[12:04] <zizazi> !mini
[12:05] <Xethron_> X-User: Target filesystem doesn't have requested /sbin/init.
[12:06] <Eagleman> Can you use multiple public keys on one user account to login without a password ( SSH ) ?
[12:06] <Xethron_> X-User: No init found. Try passing init= bootarg.
[12:06] <Xethron_> and then it loads busybox
[12:06] <zizazi> ok will go try with mini...
[12:07] <zizazi> gordonjcp: should i remain waiting for a msg from you?
[12:07] <james434> How do I check whether or not the mirror in my country is up-to-date?
[12:07] <Xethron_> X-User: got any ideas?
[12:08] <sylvain_> Hi, I'd like to know if latest ubuntu iso of 13.04 contains the kernel version which disable samsung_laptop module in EFI boot
[12:08] <X-User> Xethron_, like this one? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1606975
[12:11] <abrkn> i'm struggling with an upstart script. why does "exec sudo -u ubuntu bitcoind" not work (upstart log simply says ": command not found") when "echo `sudo -u ubuntu bitcoind`" works?
[12:14] <FireAndIce> Can anyone help me with this issue? http://askubuntu.com/questions/336619/not-able-to-login-through-gui-in-ubuntu-12-04
[12:14] <bekks> FireAndIce: Boot a live cd and run fsck -f
[12:14] <Eagleman> Can you use multiple public keys on one user account to login without a password ( SSH ) ?
[12:14] <ro9> which java tu use? Ubuntu 12.04 and Eclipse Juno
[12:15] <bekks> ro9: The one you want, basically.
[12:15] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:16] <FireAndIce> bekks, ok.. I'll try that..
[12:16] <FireAndIce> thanks.
[12:20] <ro9> currently java sun oracle 7 installed but keep getting this error http://pastebin.com/ytBv5DnX
[12:20] <nowayride> abrkn: I'm thinking exec is trying to execute "password:" as a command
[12:21] <ro9> should i use java from ubuntu repo
[12:23] <abrkn> nowayride: why would it do that? http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/#exec does not imply it would do that
[12:24] <X-User> Xethron_, got any solutions?
[12:27] <X-User> Xethron_, maybe this one can help you https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[12:28] <Xethron_> X-User: wb
[12:28] <ro9> i have django 1.3.1 with easy_install. how to get 1.5
[12:28] <abrkn> nowayride: i think i figured it out
[12:28] <zykotick9> abrkn: is bitcoind in your root's PATH?  try using the full path to bitcoind instead.
[12:28] <X-User> Xethron_, ty
[12:29] <Xethron_> X-User: trying to boot an old ubuntu cd. will let you know once its booted
[12:29] <Xethron_> taking ages
[12:29] <eegore> I forgot the port number for cups
[12:30] <FastCode> 631
[12:30] <X-User> Xethron_, ok
[12:31] <X-User> Xethron_, always prefer USB stick.
[12:31] <airtonix> looking for a reminder about how I send pulseaudio across the network in 13.04
[12:31] <Xethron_> yeah. can see why
[12:32] <X-User> Xethron_, :D
[12:32] <Xethron_> just dont have anything to write an iso to usb right now :p
[12:33] <ro9> which java tu use? Ubuntu 12.04 and Eclipse Juno
[12:33] <ro9> currently java sun oracle 7 installed but keep getting this error http://pastebin.com/ytBv5DnX
[12:34] <X-User> Xethron_, so what are you using right now?
[12:34] <Xethron_> wow. lots has changes since ubuntu 8.10
[12:35] <X-User> Xethron_, 8.10 :O
[12:35] <Xethron_> oh dang. 8.10 doesnt support ext4
[12:35] <bekks> X-User: 8.10 isnt supported anymore ;)
[12:36] <bekks> X-User: I'dsuggest installing a clean 12.04
[12:36] <compdoc> time for a new OS
[12:36] <X-User> bekks, i know :)
[12:36] <bekks> X-User: Mistabbed, sorry ;)
[12:36] <X-User> bekks, it was to Xethron_
[12:36] <braddoro> i am trying to find out if my machine is 32 or 64 bit so I ran lscpu and I am not sure of what it is telling me, it says:    CPU op-mode(s):     32-bit, 64-bit  what does that mean?
[12:36] <X-User> or use 13.10 :P
[12:36] <Xethron_> im only using 8.10 to live boot
[12:37] <bekks> Xethron_: USe a recent live cd.
[12:37] <bekks> Xethron_: Not sth thats 5y old. ;)
[12:37] <X-User> bekks, 2008
[12:37] <Xethron_> dont have 11.10 on cd... its on my hdd which i cant access right now
[12:37] <bekks> X-User: 2013 - 5 = 2008 ...
[12:38] <bekks> Xethron_: Use 12.04
[12:38] <Xethron_> i dont have it :p
[12:38] <Xethron_> lol
[12:39] <eegore> I really really really hate brother printers
[12:39] <X-User> bekks, he is trying to get a system running anyhow fro now.
[12:39] <bekks> eegore: You dont hate them enough for not using them ;)
[12:39] <Xethron_> is there anyway to add support for ext4 in 8.10 live just to get a newer ubuntu iso?
[12:39] <X-User> bekks, *for
[12:39] <bekks> X-User: I know - but thats pretty pointless until now.
[12:39] <eegore> I niked my windows partiution and I inherited it
[12:39] <bekks> Xethron_: No. You have to use a newer live cd.
[12:40] <Xethron_> bekks, yes, but the newer live cd is on my hdd
[12:40] <eegore> windows was not an issue
[12:40] <eegore> linux is an issue
[12:40] <bekks> Xethron_: And you cant access it using your old llive cd. Thats the end of the story. Use a newer live cd.
[12:40] <X-User> bekks, dont you think that 13.04 is a better idea than 12.04 !
[12:41] <bekks> X-User: Nope. 12.04 is LTS, and he is actually trying to update his very old LTS.
[12:41] <Guest12114> hi
[12:41] <Daekdroom> 13.04 has a much shorter life than 12.04
[12:41] <eegore> they onlkky have i386 driver and the backended fix does not work from their site
[12:42] <Xethron_> sigh... so im screwed until i find another pc...
[12:42] <X-User> Xethron_, make a ext3 aprtition
[12:42] <eegore> I wish there was a driver I could compile natively
[12:42] <X-User> Xethron_, *partition
[12:43] <Xethron_> X-User: no, the iso is on my hdd,which is ext4
[12:43] <bekks> Xethron_: Just ask a neighbor to do you a favour.
[12:44] <X-User> Xethron_, you can even use wind0ws for os x to make a live usb
[12:44] <Xethron_> i doubt a neighbor uses linux. this is africa we're talking about. id be surprised if my neighbor has internet :p
[12:44] <X-User> bekks, in 2008 i was using debian
[12:44] <bekks> X-User: Me never did.
[12:45] <X-User> bekks, ok
[12:45] <Xethron_> X-User: yes, true, but i still need to access my hdd to get the iso
[12:45] <bekks> hi WinstonSmith
[12:45] <X-User> Xethron_, then you are stuck.
[12:46] <Eagleman> Can you use multiple public keys on one user account to login without a password ( SSH ) using different private keys?
[12:46] <WinstonSmith> bekks: greetings :D
[12:46] <X-User> Xethron_, what are you using right now?
[12:46] <Xethron_> lemme see if i have another live cd somewhere.meh
[12:46] <eegore> I may have to fork over for an "ugh" hp
[12:46] <Xethron_> my crashed os is 12.04 i think. the live cd is 8.10
[12:47] <jrib> Eagleman: sure
[12:48] <Eagleman> jrib, do i need to add different lines in authorized_keys2?
[12:48] <jrib> Eagleman: one line per public key
[12:48] <Eagleman> ow nice, didnt know that
[12:48] <Eagleman> thanks
[12:48] <Xethron_> oooooohh. i got xubuntu 12.04 on my windows partition
[12:49] <X-User> Xethron_, I thought Ubuntu is pretty famous in South Africa.
[12:49] <Xethron_> thats luck if i ever saw it
[12:49] <Xethron_> not amongst ordinary foaks no... programmers somewhat
[12:50] <X-User> Xethron_, are you using Dual Boot?
[12:50] <X-User> Xethron_, ok
[12:50] <eegore> this looks like a likely candidate
[12:50] <eegore> http://www.frys.com/product/6568323?site=sr:SEARCH:MAIN_RSLT_PG
[12:51] <rigo88> Linux htpc 3.2.0-23-generic #36-Ubuntu SMP Tue Apr 10 20:39:51 UTC 2012 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[12:51] <Xethron_> jup. but only use windows for the occasional gaming
[12:51] <rigo88> i have this fresh install.
[12:51] <eegore> I no longer need windows for gaming
[12:51] <X-User> Xethron_, then make a Live USB with wond0ws
[12:51] <rigo88> is it safe to upgrade to 3.6.3 from here? http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v3.6.3-quantal/
[12:52] <eegore> got everything to work in linux thanks to emulators
[12:52] <Xethron_> lemme try that yes
[12:53] <X-User> Xethron_, try this http://www.linuxliveusb.com/en/download to make a Live USB
[12:55] <X-User> ?
[12:55] <rigo88> if "Two series of kernel are officially available to 12.04.1 LTS. 3.2x-xxx and 3.5x-xxx"  than why is the 3.6.3 named quantal?
[12:55] <bekks> because it was shipped with quantal?
[12:56] <Xethron_> X-User: great. will get that quick
[12:57] <dklobucaric> helo all
[12:57] <X-User> Xethron_, ok
[12:59] <X-User> Xethron_, http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows
[12:59] <rigo88> than is it "safe" to use the 12.04 with 3.6.3?
[12:59] <bekks> rigo88: Officially, 12.04 does not ship with 3.6.3
[12:59] <mamed> hello guys . after a long time i installed 11.04 to my computer . 12.04 is ok but a bit slow and consumes so much cpu(fan makes noise even though i cleaned it) but i cannot update the repositories
[12:59] <bekks> rigo88: So it is your choice.
[12:59] <mamed> did 11.04 repositories changed
[12:59] <rigo88> just because i think that the tevii s471 is only "supported" (so it is only recognised well) with 3.6.3
[13:00] <bekks> mamed: 11.04 is unsupported due to EOL.
[13:00] <OerHeks> mamaed, 11.04 is EOL, repo's are down
[13:00] <lotuspsychje> mamed: what are your system specs?
[13:00] <mamed> bekks: i thought like that way . but i found that old-releases.ubuntu.com work but it didnot work for me
[13:00] <ralphy> mamaed: can you upgrade to 13.04? Ubuntu made alot of speed improvements to Unity in that release
[13:01] <rigo88> i ever used the 12.04 with 3.6.3 for only xbmc.
[13:01] <X-User> mamed, use 13.04
[13:01] <mamed> lotuspsychje: 32 bit asus laptop 2 gb ram
[13:01] <lotuspsychje> ralphy: true
[13:01] <bekks> rigo88: he would have to update to 11.10 first, which is unsupported too.
[13:01] <mamed> 13.04 i bet it will be muh more slower than 12.04
[13:01] <bekks> !eolupgrade | mamed
[13:01] <mamed> ubottu: i know eol
[13:01] <OerHeks> mamed wrong bet
[13:01] <rigo88> well i think since installing linux is not the most complicated thing in the world it would make sence to build a new clean system right? :)
[13:01] <ralphy> mamed: nope
[13:02] <mamed> ok guys why i escape from 12.04 is youtube issue i cannot watch youtube videos and this is not a flash problem
[13:02] <rigo88> meanwhile i get an em: possible missing firmware /lib/firmware/rtl_nic/rtl8106e-1.fw while upgrading.
[13:02] <bekks> mamed: Then which problem is it?
[13:02] <lotuspsychje> rigo88: a clean ubuntu would be nice indeed
[13:03] <rigo88> lotuspsychje: if i have problems, i always rebuild the system.. i like to mess with the stuff.. a hobby..
[13:03] <mamed> bekks: i installed debian 7.0 with xfce and without problem i was able to watch youtube vides
[13:03] <bekks> mamed: And why did you choose an unsupported version?
[13:03] <mamed> i usedto love it
[13:03] <mamed> also for orta theme
[13:03] <lotuspsychje> rigo88: rebuild, meaning clean installs every time?
[13:03] <bekks> mamed: So how does that prove it wasnt a flash issue?
[13:03] <mamed> i think gnome 3 has some internal heaviness also
[13:03] <ralphy> mamed: you have to tell us the specific problem that leads you to believe it is not a flash issue if you want help
[13:04] <rigo88> yep why not.. in fact i use linux only for xbmc and/or home server. the desktop pc runs w7
[13:04] <lotuspsychje> rigo88: same here aswell, always latest ubuntu clean install x64
[13:04] <mamed> ralphy: for example i was able to watch daily motion or any other video site but youtube
[13:04] <bekks> mamed: which does not prove it wasnt a flash issue.
[13:04] <mamed> so?
[13:04] <mamed> how about debian 7.0
[13:05] <bekks> mamed: We dont care about debian.
[13:05] <mamed> but ubuntu is debian based
[13:05] <rigo88> im stucked at 12.04 since it is a lts. but i read somewhere that there are conflicts with 13.10 & xbmc and/or with the ati driver...
[13:05] <bekks> mamed: Every car is based on Ford. Which doesnt make every car a Ford.
[13:05] <mamed> ok when was 13.04 released
[13:05] <bekks> mamed: 13.04 was released in April 2013.
[13:05] <mamed> i have been far away from lates versions of ubuntu
[13:06] <rigo88> thats a wrong metaphor i guess
[13:06] <mamed> hm in normal time
[13:06] <mamed> cool i will upgrade my sys then
[13:06] <lotuspsychje> !yay | mamed
[13:06] <mamed> wht are the improvements?
[13:06] <lotuspsychje> !13.04
[13:07]  * mamed loves scripts:P
[13:07] <mamed> guys i want to as ksth
[13:07] <ralphy> mamed: good luck-I recommend installing chrome as that uses a newer version of flash
[13:07] <mamed> will canonical plan to change ubuntu into something like windows 8
[13:07] <X-User> ubottu, !raring | mamed
[13:08] <X-User> lotuspsychje, oh have not seen you already did.
[13:08] <mamed> i am a conservative computer user and i love menus button i did not like the idea of touch screens bla bla
[13:08] <lotuspsychje> mamed: dont put win and ubuntu in same line :p
[13:08] <mamed> lotuspsychje: yes i know but
[13:08] <lotuspsychje> X-User: no sweat mate we all here for the same
[13:08] <rigo88> do i have to install some special driver for intel hd graphics? (celeron 847 sandy)
[13:08] <mamed> this ubuntu app menu is a small step to something like this
[13:08] <mamed> i think in that way
[13:09] <X-User> lotuspsychje, :DE
[13:09] <ralphy> <lotuspsychje: kinda like saying beetlejuice 3 times
[13:09] <lotuspsychje> ralphy: :p
[13:09] <mamed> ok one last thing how can i remove the app button in the unity interface
[13:09] <X-User> ralphy, :P
[13:09] <ralphy> mamed: app button?
[13:10] <X-User> mamed, what is app button?
[13:10] <mamed> hmm you know when you click it a new menu is open and you can search files see application bla bla
[13:10] <Gerald> riggo88: yes. you probably will to get all of the 3d and video decoding working
[13:10] <mamed> on the unity
[13:10] <mamed> at the top of unity
[13:10] <mamed> top left end
[13:10] <ralphy> mamed: oh... I don't think you can... you may want to try a different desktop
[13:10] <ralphy> mamed: desktop environment
[13:11] <lotuspsychje> mamed: you can autohide dash
[13:11] <mamed> well . i love unity i love global menu i love the dock on the left side
[13:11] <X-User> mamed, you can try XFCE or Cinnamon
[13:11] <mamed> xfce :( cinnamon is like win:(
[13:11] <X-User> mamed, KDE then.
[13:11] <lotuspsychje> mamed: and use docky at bottom example
[13:11] <mamed> too complex and have internal problems
[13:12] <mamed> hm mcan i change the pos of unity dock
[13:12] <mamed> in 13.04
[13:12] <bekks> mamed: Where do you get those wrong information from?
[13:12] <lotuspsychje> mamed: yes
[13:12] <lotuspsychje> !info docky | mamed
[13:12] <rigo88> maybe thisone? https://01.org/linuxgraphics/downloads/2013/intelr-linux-graphics-installer-version-1.0.2
[13:12] <mamed> cool this was impossible in 12.04
[13:12] <bekks> mamed: Can you even prove that KDE "have internal problem"?
[13:12] <mamed> bekks: i am tired of seeing kde has crashed bla bla
[13:12] <mjayk> mamed: no you cant
[13:12] <mamed> also it is a ram eater
[13:13] <mamed> qt is ok but kde:(
[13:13] <X-User> lotuspsychje, cairo-dock / glx dock is better that Docky IMHO
[13:13] <mjayk> mamed: its not a ram eater kde needs you to configure it
[13:13] <mjayk> mamed: if you dont then its bad
[13:13] <lotuspsychje> X-User: advantages?
[13:13] <mjayk> mamed: but if you know what you are doing it is one of the best
[13:13] <ralphy> mamed: ditto, I did not like kde 4
[13:13] <bekks> mamed: "bla bla" is no proof for anything. So stop spreading rumours please.
[13:13] <mamed> yes i know but as i said too complex. also i love global menu which does not exist in kde
[13:13] <mamed> in kde4 . in kde 3 i was
[13:13] <mjayk> mamed: like a search menu ?
[13:14] <lotuspsychje> mamed: bekks is right, you can only speak for your own experiences..
[13:14] <mamed> search menu?  i am talking about global menu . menu bar on the top like mac os
[13:14] <X-User> mamed, then try this DE http://www.enlightenment.org/?p=about/e17
[13:14] <mjayk> mamed: mamed yea thats something you need to configure in kde
[13:14] <mamed> ok . i will upgrade to 13.04 then if i come across any problem and cannot find any solution on the net i will come
[13:15] <mamed> do not get me wrong i dont want to offned anyone
[13:15] <mjayk> mamed: everything is possible you just need to configure it, i use unity but you can change very little
[13:15] <Extreminador> guys i have the "GRUB_TIMEOUT=-1" but after i install e17 desktop environment the grub is waiting 20 seconds to choice an option. Before the e17 installation this was fine... Is there any other file that i should see or any command that i should run ?
[13:15] <ralphy> mamed: dont forget to try google chrome to use a newer version of flash
[13:15] <mamed> why not fox
[13:16] <mjayk> Extreminador: thats very strange did you just install the de enviroment ? anyway try to update grub
[13:16] <braddoro> i am trying to find out if my machine is 32 or 64 bit so I ran lscpu and I am not sure of what it is telling me, it says:    CPU op-mode(s):     32-bit, 64-bit  what does that mean?
[13:16] <X-User> lotuspsychje, it looks much better, have a shut down button, hardware acceleration, themes, can add menus, lots of tweaks and many more
[13:16] <mjayk> Extreminador: grub2-update or something
[13:16] <Extreminador> mjayk, ahhh ok thanks will try that
[13:16] <lotuspsychje> X-User: cool, never tryed it
[13:16] <ralphy> mamed: complicated, adobe stopped releasing new versions of flash for everyone but chrome
[13:16] <X-User> lotuspsychje, give it a shot, its good.
[13:17] <mjayk> chrome is bad anyway
[13:17] <mamed> hm okay then
[13:17] <Gerald> braddoro: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[13:17] <ralphy> Hey, are there any Ubunu developers here?
[13:17] <mamed> maybe we wont see the flash anymore
[13:17] <mamed> html5 is on the way
[13:17] <ralphy> Ubuntu*
[13:17] <Extreminador> mjayk, but yehh i did install some other's programs like x-chat, firefox and a program to disable mouse-pad while a mouse is plug in
[13:17] <lotuspsychje> ralphy: you might wanna try the dev chat
[13:17] <Gerald> and if it says it supports 64 bit. then its a 64bit machine
[13:18] <ralphy> lotuspsychje: on freenode?
[13:18] <mjayk> ralphy: I believe so
[13:18] <lotuspsychje> forgot chan name
[13:18] <MonkeyDust> ralphy  try #ubuntu-app-devel
[13:18] <lotuspsychje> MonkeyDust: tnx
[13:18] <mamed> it would be great if ubuntu create its own DE . with qt based . isaid qt based bec it has lots of functions to create a DE and also c++ is the development lang. which is my favorite c
[13:19] <mjayk> Extreminador: strange to be honest only thing i can think of to do is to run a grub update to make it refresh the cfg
[13:19] <lotuspsychje> !ot | mamed
[13:19] <ralphy> MonkeyDust: thx
[13:19] <mamed> sorry i forgot it again
[13:19] <Extreminador> mjayk, humm i don have any grub2-update
[13:19] <braddoro> Gerald, what am I looking for in that output?  I don't see anything that says 32 or 64 bits
[13:19] <Extreminador> mjayk, have allot of grub- commands but none say update
[13:20] <mamed> ok guys i am downloading the iso and then burn it to a dvd(OMG it is nearly 800 MB)
[13:20] <Extreminador> mjayk, maybe grub-mkrescue ?
[13:20] <mjayk> Extreminador: the command is update-grub2
[13:20] <mjayk> i beliebe
[13:21] <Extreminador> mjayk, ahh yehh that one i have thanks
[13:21] <Extreminador> brb going to reboot
[13:22] <rila> Hello Guys, can someone help me please with an issue in Ubuntu 13.04
[13:22] <ralphy> really quiet in dev chat, i'm a cs senior and i'm looking for a way to contribute to a large foss project
[13:22] <rila> Can i msg someone?
[13:22] <rila> for help
[13:22] <gordonjcp> ralphy: pick a project, find the bug list, start fixing bugs
[13:22] <rila> Its about drivers for graphic card
[13:22] <gordonjcp> rila: best to just ask in channel
[13:22] <rila> Well I have ati drivers installed on Ubuntu.
[13:22] <rila> Everything works
[13:23] <rila> But i want to use the OS also in VMware on Windows as Physicial Machine
[13:23] <Gerald> braddoro. if you see the lm flag. it's 64bit
[13:23] <bekks> rila: Then you cant use the native ATI drivers at all.
[13:23] <rila> But when i start the machine as physical machine i have black screen
[13:23] <rila> Which drivers should I use then?
[13:23] <rila> Radeon?
[13:23] <bekks> rila: No. VESA drivers.
[13:23] <Extreminador> mjayk, that worked thanks
[13:24] <rila> Are VESA the default drivers of ubuntu?
[13:24] <Gerald> grep flags /proc/cpuinfo
[13:25] <ralphy> rila: the virtual machine cuts off access to the graphics hardware-your getting a black screen because the os thinks it needs to use the radeon drivers
[13:26] <rila> Thanks
[13:26] <ralphy> rila: the VESA drivers are the default barebones that you need
[13:26] <rila> Now i can fix it
[13:26] <rila> Thanks guys
[13:26] <rila> Makes sense now lol
[13:26] <bekks> rila: Uninstall the ati drivers.
[13:26] <mjayk> Extreminador: good to hear
[13:27] <braddoro> Gerald, thank you I have  lm in the flags
[13:31] <asdfss> anyone here using myphpamin ?
[13:32] <asdfss> anyone happen to know who to import a csv into a single column table in mysql
[13:32] <bekks> Why?
[13:32] <bekks> asdfss: use "mysql" in a terminal.
[13:32] <aguitel> what twitter client is working under ubuntu ?
[13:32] <bekks> aguitel: firefox
[13:32] <asdfss> i got this file with countries listing and they are spereated by comman
[13:33] <tsongki> how to check for bad blocks in terminal
[13:33] <bekks> tsongki: Using "badblocks".
[13:33] <X-User_> bekks, :D LOL
[13:33] <asdfss> how to import them to a table ?
[13:34] <asdfss> i looks so damn simple yet the damn thing wont import
[13:34] <bekks> asdfss: http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/mysqlimport.html
[13:34] <asdfss> mtfker
[13:34] <bekks> !language | asdfss
[13:34] <tsongki> bekks, do i need to download gparted for that
[13:35] <aguitel> what twitter client is working under ubuntu ?
[13:35] <X-User_> ubottu, !rules | asdfss
[13:35] <tsongki> i mean are there any disk utility available for ubuntu
[13:36] <ryan123> Is anybody getting error, while booting into Ubuntu 13.04 - if, so is it because it's new
[13:36] <ryan123> *errors
[13:36] <ralphy> tsongki: besides gparted?
[13:36] <ralphy> ryan123: what error?
[13:37] <stobix> Hi. Can I block a package/driver from being automatically installed in Ubuntu?
[13:37] <stobix> (fglrx to be precise)
[13:37] <ryan123> Sorry, Ubuntu 13.04 has experienced an internal error
[13:38] <stobix> Ubuntu 13.04 seems to be one big internal error right now.
[13:38] <ralphy> ryan123: there should be a button in the bottom left that allows you to expand to give more information on it
[13:38] <ryan123> I've click "OK" now
[13:39] <ralphy> ryan123, stobix: I can confirm that Ubuntu 13.04 does give those errors at first. I believe update the os fixes them (although it took a few days for them to disappear)
[13:39] <ralphy> updating*
[13:40] <Kartagis> stobix: yeah, add the lines blacklist fglrx in the file /etc/modprobe.conf
[13:40] <stobix> Kartagis: thanks
[13:41] <Kartagis> np
[13:41] <ryan123> ralphy: thank you for letting me know :D
[13:41] <Kartagis> following https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution#Adding_undetected_resolutions, how can I find out what my options for output are? for ex., I have a HDMI output but xrandr --addmode HDMI said HDMI is invalid
[13:41] <ryan123> ralphy: just wondering that's all
[13:41] <home555> эгоисты))))))))))
[13:41] <ralphy> ryan123: :-)
[13:42] <stobix> home555: Ni hao
[13:42] <Kartagis> !ru | home555
[13:42] <home555> =)))
[13:42] <home555> я не умею ты что)
[13:42] <balance> hi, tried to do apt-get install php5-dev to get phpize but i get the error: Err http://ch.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu quantal-updates/main php5-dev amd64 5.4.6-1ubuntu1.1 404 not found    and    failted to fetch http://ch.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/p/php5/php5-dev_5.4.6-1ubuntu1.1_amd64.deb 404 not found
[13:43] <home555> бот может всех поздавать )))ууу
[13:43] <jrib> balance: run « sudo apt-get update » and try again
[13:44] <balance> jrib looks like it works, should i always first update before installing anything?
[13:45] <X-User_> ubottu, !ru | home555
[13:45] <jrib> balance: well not if you just updated recently imo; use your judgement
[13:45] <ralphy> balance: try installing the package now
[13:46] <jrib> balance: update just refreshes the package lists that your computer has for what's on the server.  What happened was that the server changed the package that was on the server (it was updated) and your computer wasn't aware of that because you hadn't updated
[13:47] <ralphy> balance: any luck?
[13:48] <balance> jrib i know, guessed that. ralphy already updated sry but it works now thanks
[13:50] <balance> ralphy yes thanks
[13:50] <xeon123> I have my hostname called Ubuntu. I want to do ping Ubuntu1 but I can't do it. How I associate my IP to the Hostname?
[13:51] <rila> You can
[13:51] <rila> You can't
[13:51] <Screwba> all: is there an upstart channel where I can ask some questions?
[13:51] <Screwba> ;)
[13:51] <Screwba> nevermind...d'oh
[13:52] <bekks> rila: Of course thats possible.
[13:52] <narcos> Any recommendations for a very small Ubuntu install? I want to run it in a VM, with minimal disk space/CPU/RAM.
[13:52] <bekks> xeon123: Add an entry for your IP into /etc/hosts providing all hostnames you want that IP to be associated with.
[13:53] <bekks> narcos: ubuntu server, and uninstall everything you dont want/need.
[13:55] <narcos> bekks: kk
[13:56] <Screwba> any UpStart guru's here?
[13:56] <Screwba> nobody answering on #UpStart
[13:56] <X-User_> !offtopic | Screwba
[13:57] <Screwba> *yawn*
[13:57] <Screwba> X-User: was just a question
[13:58] <X-User_> Screwba, still off topic! :)
[13:59] <Screwba> mad bro?
[13:59] <Screwba> had to check if I was on upstart as well?
[13:59] <Screwba> heheheh
[14:01] <vlitomsk> hello
[14:01] <nishttal2> hi.. i am running 13.04 and having a very annoying problem
[14:01] <nishttal2> when I try to drag windows from the title bar.. the window is maximized
[14:02] <nishttal2> i have to do it really slowly to make sure its dragged and not maximized.. how can i fix this?
[14:04] <stefan_> hi, is it possible to create a temporary hostname to ip setting without modifing the /etc/hosts file?
[14:04] <bekks> stefan_: No.
[14:04] <anonee> hello, how can I tell which program is using 127.0.0.1:9050 ? I used netstat -an | grep ":9050" but just got information that it's listening on tcp... but how can I stop whatever is using it?
[14:05] <bekks> anonee: First, you have to find out whats the program - take a look at sudo lsof -i
[14:05] <Adre> bonjour
[14:06] <ralphy> bekks: I got to remember that command
[14:07] <Adre> c'est français ?
[14:07] <stefan_> is it possoble to set two ip's for one hostname?
[14:07] <Adre> it is french ?
[14:07] <stefan_> one if openvpn is on and the other when vpn is down
[14:07] <stefan_> ?
[14:07] <bekks> !fr | Adre
[14:07] <Adre> OK thank you
[14:08] <bekks> stefan_: What is the actual problem?
[14:09] <stefan_> i have an server on a laptop
[14:09] <stefan_> and the laptop is at different places (second places)
[14:10] <stefan_> so if the laptop is at the second place it is connected as client to the openvpn server
[14:10] <stefan_> but on the laptop-client is a server in virtualbox
[14:10] <stefan_> i can reach the server in the laptop-client from vpn-server via the ip address
[14:10] <stefan_> but the ip address changes
[14:11] <stefan_> if the laptop is at first place, the vpn is not needed
[14:11] <stefan_> and the server in the vm on the laptop has another ip-address
[14:11] <stefan_> problem: I don't want to edit the /etc/hosts every time
[14:12] <stefan_> second problem: the fritz box at first place doesn't allow to enter hostnames from other networks
[14:13] <anonee> bekks done, it worked, thank you.
[14:15] <BluesKaj> stefan_, try adding the IPs to  /etc/hosts.allow
[14:19] <draconus> would you recommend using RAID0/1 or is it better to have 2 separate drives instead?
[14:20] <stefan_> BluesKaj: do you know the syntax for that?
[14:20] <anonee> bekks one more question please, I'm trying to install this latest version of youtube-dl, http://rg3.github.io/youtube-dl/download.html but I got this msg: gpg: Can't check signature: public key not found I've read but I didn't understand actually, how can I add one of the keys mentioned below in the page?
[14:22] <BluesKaj> stefan_,
[14:22] <BluesKaj> portmap
[14:22] <BluesKaj> ALL:192.168.X.X
[14:22] <FloodBot1> BluesKaj: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:23] <stefan_> BluesKaj: and where is the hostname?
[14:26] <BluesKaj> stefan_, check my pm
[14:27] <BluesKaj> stefan_, that's my settings , your Ips will be differnt of course
[14:29] <stefan_> BluesKaj: hmm, perhaps I or you have an another understandig of the problem...
[14:29] <stefan_> my problem is that I have ONE hostname and TWO IP-Adresses for it
[14:30] <BluesKaj> include both
[14:32] <stefan_> BluesKaj: as example
[14:33] <stefan_> BluesKaj: hostname: virtualserver ip (if laptop is in local net) 192.168.1.5
[14:34] <stefan_> if laptop is connectet over vpn, virtualservers ip cloud be 192.168.2.5
[14:35] <stefan_> so if the laptop is local in /etc/hosts must be "192.168.1.5 virtualserver"
[14:35] <stefan_> if it is connected over vpn
[14:35] <stefan_> in /etc/hosts must be "192.168.2.5 virtualserver"
[14:36] <stefan_> BluesKaj: is that what you have done with hosts.allow?
[14:41] <semitones> hello!
[14:41] <ralphy> semitones: greetings!
[14:42] <semitones> I'm looking at my auth.log and I see a lot of the same thing -- is it normal to have lots of cron items there?
[14:43] <semitones> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6021618/
[14:43] <bekks> semitones: Yes.
[14:43] <semitones> what is it?
[14:43] <bekks> Cron entries.
[14:43] <jrib> semitones: it's cron running
[14:44] <jrib> semitones: are you familiar with cron?
[14:44] <semitones> slightly. My root's crontab appears empty though
[14:44] <draconus> can we have cron logins get logged elsewhere?
[14:44] <BluesKaj> stefan_, my vpn protocol doesn't require virtual server settings (l2tp/ipsec)
[14:44] <bekks> semitones: There are other cron entries, too.
[14:44] <semitones> to me it looks like there's a cron job running every hours
[14:44] <semitones> oh, other than in crontab
[14:45] <jrib> semitones: look at /etc/crontab and /etc/cron.*
[14:47] <A1Recon> I am working with the wget command and I am getting a problem here..... I want to download all images on a website. Say that any particular image's address is "www.example.com/images/kk/2/filename.jpg" and I want to download all the images within "www.example.com/images/kk/2/" so I type this into the terminal "wget --no-parent --recursive --level=1 www.example.com/images/kk/2/" and hit enter. But I just get these folders within my working directory
[14:47] <semitones> jrib, ah, cool, it's a job that writes down what hour it is in case of power failure
[14:47] <bekks> A1Recon: Where do you expect wget to store them?
[14:48] <A1Recon> bekks: in my working directory...
[14:51] <harris> anyone here know when ubuntu-touch will be out
[14:52] <A1Recon> bekks: Any idea why it is not working?? I thought that since I can get my hands on the index.html ..... i should be able to download the files too...
[14:52] <Mitchell92> Hi all, I've encrypted my hard drive.. Now I want to remove the encryption, or set it up so I don't have to enter it when turning on my system anymore. Any help?
[14:53] <A1Recon> bekks: Its an apache server which allows indexes (since i can see the list of files.) so wget should work with this...
[14:54] <SchrodingersScat> A1Recon: robots.txt?
[14:54] <A1Recon> SchrodingersScat: yup
[14:56] <draconus> proxmox 3.0 web interface doesn't work with opera... what a shame
[14:57] <bekks> A1Recon: Regardless of the webserver wget stores the content it is downloading in the current directory, or in directories under the current dir - or under the target dir specified.
[14:58] <bekks> A1Recon: So why do you expect wget to guess the target directory
[14:59] <perrshp> hi
[14:59] <perrshp> i need help
[14:59] <perrshp> error http://ppa.launchpad.net raring/main amd64 Packages
[15:00] <bekks> perrshp: Whats the full, exact error message?
[15:00] <perrshp> sudo apt-get update <ENTER>
[15:00] <perrshp> and message..
[15:00] <perrshp> print that message
[15:01] <perrshp> 오류 http://ppa.launchpad.net raring/main amd64 Packages
[15:01] <perrshp>   404  Not Found
[15:01] <A1Recon> bekks: it stores the files in current directory but the thing is it does not download the jpg files that i am trying to download.
[15:02] <nickkkare> hi. wats the best download manager i can use on ubuntu
[15:03] <bekks> nickkkare: a terminal and wget.
[15:04] <bekks> perrshp: 404 not found - the URL is invalid, since it is just the base URL of all PPA on launchpad. You have to enter the correct, full URL.
[15:04] <A1Recon> bekks: oh the robots.txt has this >> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6021651/
[15:04] <SchrodingersScat> nickkkare: I like wget
[15:05] <SchrodingersScat> A1Recon: then don't you need --no-robots or whatever the flag is?  because /images/ is in robots and wget respcets that iirc
[15:05] <perrshp> bekks: full URL
[15:05] <bekks> A1Recon: man wget -> -e robots=off :)
[15:05] <perrshp> error http://ppa.launchpad.net raring/main amd64 Packages
[15:05] <perrshp>   404  Not Found
[15:05] <bekks> perrshp: Thats not the full URL.
[15:06] <perrshp> in sources.list?
[15:06] <bekks> perrshp: Yes, in the sources.list
[15:06] <wilee-nilee> nickkkare, download what?
[15:06] <perrshp> bekks: okay
[15:07] <bekks> perrshp: For example: for the ubuntu-x-swat PPA, the URL is http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates/ubuntu/ and not just http://ppa.launchpad.net
[15:07] <perrshp> bekks: deb http://ftp.daum.net/ubuntu/ raring universe
[15:07] <perrshp> okay
[15:07] <bekks> perrshp: What am I supposed to do with that line you just pasted?
[15:07] <perrshp> bekks: i finding
[15:08] <bekks> perrshp: Whats your native language?
[15:08] <perrshp> bad Englis sorry
[15:09] <perrshp> bekks: http://ppa.launchpad.net/screenlets/ppa/ubuntu
[15:12] <perrshp> http://ftp.daum.net/ubuntu/dists/raring/main/binary-amd64/
[15:12] <bekks> perrshp: It is pointless to paste URLS without any comment, error message or question.
[15:12] <perrshp> Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[15:13] <perrshp> I need
[15:13] <perrshp> download the files
[15:14] <bekks> perrshp: Because the URL you pasted initially is wrong.
[15:14] <perrshp> I know what erorr is
[15:14] <bekks> perrshp: Then you have to fix it.
[15:14] <perrshp> i know 404 Not Found
[15:14] <auronandace> perrshp: we can't support ppas here, if you have a problem with a ppa you need to talk to its maintainer
[15:14] <perrshp> yes, you patient
[15:14] <perrshp> Thankyou
[15:16] <Guest66307> Hi
[15:18] <A1Recon> bekks: SchrodingersScat: Thanks!! A Lot!!
[15:18] <A1Recon> bekks: So the robots.txt was restricting access??
[15:18] <bekks> A1Recon: Thats what a robots.txt is for.
[15:18] <Guest66307> Hello,this is a test
[15:19] <bekks> !test | Guest66307
[15:19] <jacky_bot> ################################
[15:19] <nickkkare> download manager comparable to windows IDM
[15:19] <bekks> nickkkare: please dont expect anyone in here ever seen a specific windows application.
[15:20] <A1Recon> bekks: Hey where can i learn about these things?? robots.txt? Apache? Where do i start?
[15:20] <bekks> A1Recon: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[15:22] <Gr1zzly> Hi
[15:22] <nickkkare> bekks: thanks thot there might be ple like me who are converting to linux from windows
[15:22] <Gr1zzly> is Ubuntu still watching our datas?
[15:22] <SchrodingersScat> Gr1zzly: I still remember the threat about having root.
[15:22] <Gr1zzly> wasn't that more than a therat?
[15:23] <Gr1zzly> Ubuntu uses the information about searches to show the user ads to buy various things from Amazon. Amazon commits many wrongs (see http://stallman.org/amazon.html); by promoting Amazon, Canonical contributes to them
[15:23] <auronandace> nickkkare: search the software centre for download manager
[15:24] <auronandace> nickkkare: also there are several available as firefox addons
[15:24] <bekks> Gr1zzly: ubuntu never was watching your data - and Mr. Stallman didnt even try to get to know on how easy it was always to disable the amazon shopping lense.
[15:24] <Richard_Holland> Can I task a question
[15:24] <Gr1zzly> Well he said it was easy to disable it
[15:24] <Gr1zzly> I just want to know it that feature is still in, since I am a noob
[15:24] <auronandace> Richard_Holland: if its a ubuntu support question go for it
[15:24] <jaapio> how do I add a user for sharing only? So the user will not show up in the login screen?
[15:24] <bekks> Gr1zzly: You can still disable it.
[15:25] <Gr1zzly> This is not the problem for me to be honnest
[15:25] <Gr1zzly> I know this, I just want to know if they still do that thing
[15:25] <Gr1zzly> and does that include kubuntu, lubuntu, xubuntu etc.?
[15:25] <bekks> Gr1zzly: If it isnt the problem - why are we discussing it in a support channel? :)
[15:25] <Richard_Holland> I wanna configur my network so that eth0 has a static IP addres that connects with the modem/router
[15:25] <Gr1zzly> ooh sry
[15:26] <Gr1zzly> I was looking for informations
[15:26] <Gr1zzly> so I went there ^^ didnt know it was just for support sry guys :)
[15:26] <SchrodingersScat> Gr1zzly: try #ubuntu-offtopic maybe
[15:26] <Gr1zzly> thx
[15:27] <Richard_Holland> using the configure file in /etc/networks won't work
[15:28] <bekks> Richard_Holland: why not?
[15:29] <ashwini_> Hi, a simple network query
[15:30] <ashwini_> essentially the same issue as http://askubuntu.com/questions/251580/created-hotspot-not-found-using-other-devices
[15:30] <Richard_Holland> If i configure it with a temporary IP address it goes good
[15:30] <BluesKaj> Richard_Holland, do you mean /etc/network/interfaces
[15:30] <Richard_Holland> If have posted a question on the forum, on network and wifi
[15:30] <Richard_Holland> Yep
[15:30] <Richard_Holland> Still no reaction on there.
[15:31] <Richard_Holland> But it contains all the information
[15:31] <BluesKaj> Richard_Holland, if you are using network manager you have to add the the static IP there too
[15:31] <ashwini_> I'm afraid for my case the issue would be the message "Booting system w/o full network configuration"
[15:31] <ashwini_> everytime
[15:32] <ashwini_> I guess something's not configured right
[15:32] <Richard_Holland> i uninstalled that
[15:32] <Richard_Holland> i am not using any gui  for the network configuration anymore
[15:32] <BluesKaj> !who | ashwini_ , Richard_Holland
[15:32] <Guest68512> !whoami
[15:32] <Guest68512> ahh
[15:32] <Richard_Holland> Sorry, first time us.
[15:32] <Guest68512> brb
[15:33] <Silencieux> Where can I find which build to use for an older Macbook Pro?
[15:33] <ashwini_> ah, it was a general question
[15:35] <BluesKaj> Richard_Holland, ok check this out , http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/howto-ubuntu-linux-convert-dhcp-network-configuration-to-static-ip-configuration.html
[15:36] <Richard_Holland> BluesKaj, I am gonna look that up. Thanks for the information so far.
[15:38] <hypodog> hi
[15:38] <Richard_Holland> BluesKaj, I have quickly scanned the page. And i have done al the things that stand there.  But I am gonna recheck it again. In this line of work one letter can mean lots of differens. ;-)
[15:39] <bekks> Richard_Holland: "quickly scanning" is a secure way into errors, when you dont know what the commands are doing your are just copy and pasting.
[15:39] <wilee-nilee> !mac | Silencieux
[15:39] <Silencieux> thank you wilee
[15:39] <Eagleman> Why can i delete a file using sftp with these permissions and chowned to the user root: -rwxr-x---  1 root root 1.3M Aug 24 17:39, when logged in as another user?
[15:40] <wilee-nilee> Silencieux, Kind of a dated link is all, the builds I'm not exactly sure.
[15:40] <BluesKaj> Richard_Holland, when you get to /etc/resolv.conf  , you have to use this file instead  /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/base , because it writes to /etc/resolv.conf ,
[15:40] <Richard_Holland> Bekks, unix systems and security are not new for me. It's just that Ubuntu acts different then the HP-UX i am used working with.
[15:41] <Silencieux> So maverick or hardy would be best for my model I believe
[15:41] <BluesKaj> Richard_Holland, the tutorial i posted is esentilly correct , but with that one exception
[15:41] <Silencieux> should I use the LTS or recent release?
[15:41] <bekks> Silencieux: If you ask that way - LTS.
[15:41] <Richard_Holland> BluesKaj, the execption you just gave?
[15:41] <BluesKaj> Richard_Holland, yes
[15:41] <Silencieux> thanks bekks
[15:41] <mamed> yhello guyz. newly upgraded to 13.04 how to install / where to install flash player for chro**browser
[15:41] <Richard_Holland> BluesKaj, thanks... I am gonna try it
[15:42] <Eagleman> Why can i delete a file using sftp with these permissions and chowned to the user root: -rwxr-x---  1 root root 1.3M Aug 24 17:39, when logged in as another user ( http://pastebin.com/9HKQgDDp )?
[15:44] <Muelli> Eagleman: deleting files needs permissions on the directory.
[15:50] <linuxuz3r> how do you install ubuntu on a macbook pro 13" 2009
[15:50] <Silencieux> !mac | linuxuz3r
[15:52] <mamed> guys  when i try to type a folder name in a main folder search engine is open . all want to find the directory quciker how can i overcome this
[15:53] <bekks> Muelli: Deleting a file needs permission on the directory, as well as on the file itself.
[15:53] <mamed> i dont want to search in subfolders i just want to find my directory easier that is why i type its name
[15:54] <diphtherial> hey, apparently my colleague's ubuntu installation self-destructed this morning after some routine updates
[15:54] <bekks> diphtherial: Apparently thats impossible. Ubuntu has no AI.
[15:54] <diphtherial> specifically, grub now seems to think that all four of his partitions are MSDOS partitions, and he can't boot his windows partition at all
[15:54] <bekks> diphtherial: Then ask him what he didnt told you yet.
[15:54] <diphtherial> bekks: sorry, i was following it up with more information..
[15:55] <diphtherial> as far as i can tell, he just allowed the updates to install, it rebooted, and now he can't boot it
[15:55] <bekks> diphtherial: Ubuntu does not change the partition layout nor the partition types itself without the user telling Ubuntu to do it.
[15:55] <diphtherial> bekks: right, which is why i'm confused
[15:55] <bekks> diphtherial: So he did not tell you all he did.
[15:55] <mamed> how to handle that search issue in a directory when typing a directory name
[15:55] <bekks> mamed: Which issue?
[15:56] <mamed> bekks, when i am in a directory and want to find a subdirectory i type its name . but in 13.04 it searchs all sub and sub directories
[15:56] <mamed> is this a nautilus issue?
[15:57] <bekks> mamed: When I am in a directory - in a terminal - and I type the name of a directory, I usually get "no such command".
[15:58] <holstein> mamed: try using a file search application
[15:58] <MonkeyDust> mamed  what command are you using to find a directory?
[15:58] <mamed> ii  think i could ot express my problem. bekks  imagine that you are in your home directory. and you want to type Documents . in ubuntu 12.04 and olders it highlghting the desired directory but in 13.04 it searches all sub directories
[15:59] <wilee-nilee> diphtherial, Have them run sudo fdisk -l to confirm what is there
[15:59] <mamed> i dont use a command i am talking about the gui nautilus
[15:59] <bekks> mamed: When I am in my home directory, "cd Documents" will let me change into that directory.
[15:59] <bekks> mamed: I never used a GUI file manager for navigating and searching files.
[16:00] <mamed> dont you have 13.04 with untity DE
[16:00] <bekks> mamed: Sure. But I have a wonderful "terminal" too.
[16:00] <holstein> mamed: the issue is, this is not a "bug".. or something that is "broken".. you want different functionality than the defaults.. i would try an application designed to search for files, and i think you will find more options to edit
[16:00] <MonkeyDust> mamed  in a GUI, you click to open a directory, so where are you typing?
[16:01] <ABDULLAH> Hello ! I'm a novice in both ubuntu and programming.
[16:01] <holstein> ABDULLAH: this channel *only* deals with the ubuntu portion of your query
[16:02] <HypnotiX> evening gents, can you give me a bit of advice please, i have a new hdd should i create more then one partition for linux ? or that isnt necessary
[16:02] <mamed> okay. when i am in the /usr/share where there are lots of directories i just want to find themes directory . (scrolling takes time) when i type themes . find option opens in nautilus(file manager) and it searches in all sub directores . all i want to highlight the /usr/share/themes
[16:02] <mamed> my problem is above
[16:02] <ABDULLAH> I'm using Codeblocks and when I write code and try to run it it shows this
[16:02] <SchrodingersScat> HypnotiX: some make a separate /home/ for upgrading ease and etc.
[16:02] <ABDULLAH> permission denied.
[16:02] <holstein> !info catfish
[16:03] <holstein> mamed: ^ try using an application designed for searching for what you are looking for
[16:03] <HypnotiX> SchrodingersScat: so i should make a partition and set mount point to / and another bigger one with mount to /home ?
[16:03] <holstein> !chmod | ABDULLAH
[16:03] <SchrodingersScat> HypnotiX: that's up to you to decide.
[16:03] <mamed> holstein, it was ok in 12.04 this is not an aother application this is nautilus problem
[16:04] <HypnotiX> ok but that is the safer way to go right
[16:04] <bekks> mamed: And now the behaviour changed.
[16:04] <mamed> yes
[16:04] <holstein> mamed: this is *not* a problem at all...
[16:04] <HypnotiX> are there any drawbacks to creating two partitions for linux ?
[16:04] <ABDULLAH> it shows the directory and then permission denied. how can i fix it?
[16:04] <bekks> HypnotiX: No.
[16:04] <ABDULLAH> Pls .
[16:04] <holstein> mamed: there are many different file managers, and search applications if the default one is not doing what you expect or want
[16:04] <bekks> mamed: The behaviour changed. IT is not a bug, it is not a problem. It is a changed behaviour.
[16:05] <SchrodingersScat> HypnotiX: the main benefit is that then later you can choose to *not* format your /home/ should you decide to overwrite your / or install another distro.
[16:05] <holstein> ABDULLAH: please see the link i gave
[16:05] <MonkeyDust> !partition | HypnotiX start here
[16:05] <holstein> mamed: if you prefer 12.04, 12.04 is still supported
[16:05] <mamed> ok how can i set the nautilusu searhc options
[16:05] <HypnotiX> Thanx guys, a real help as usual :)
[16:05] <bekks> mamed: You cant.
[16:05] <mamed> why not
[16:05] <holstein> mamed: im not sure you can. what i suggest is, use something that is closer to what you are looking for
[16:05] <bekks> mamed: Because it is not implemented to set them.
[16:06] <MonkeyDust> mamed  look in dconf editor, maybe you find something usfeul there
[16:06] <mamed> hm if i downgrade the nautilus it works
[16:06] <holstein> mamed: the code is all open, and you are free to edit what you like, but as default, i dont think you have that option to chage that.. but, there are *many* other filemanagers that will do what you are asking, as well as the search tool
[16:07] <holstein> mamed: sure.. if you use a version of nautilus that has the functions you want, then the functions are there
[16:07] <holstein> !volunteers | HypnotiX
[16:07] <mamed> ok i found sth . this is my problem : http://askubuntu.com/questions/275883/traditional-search-as-you-type-on-newer-nautilus-versions
[16:07] <holstein> mamed: its not a problem, friend.. its a change
[16:08] <mamed> yeah it is a painfull change
[16:08] <bekks> mamed: It is still not a bug, not problem. It is a changed behaviour.
[16:08] <mamed> it takes time to fins a directory
[16:08] <mamed> i see it is not a bug.
[16:08] <bekks> mamed: Then use 12.04
[16:08] <mamed> no i will downgrade nautilus
[16:08] <HypnotiX> holstein: my last statement was not sarcastic
[16:08] <MonkeyDust> mamed  some functionalities have changed in nautilus, that's true: de dual pane is gone, the 'show as list' is gone, other features maybe
[16:08] <holstein> mamed: there are many options, such as downgrading nautilus
[16:09] <mamed> here is an answer : As far as I know the new Nautilus 3.6.X cuts many features from the 3.4 and older versions. Canonical decided to keep using nautilus 3.4.2 in Ubuntu 12.10 because if this even though Nautilus 3.6 was already released.
[16:09] <holstein> HypnotiX: apologies :)
[16:09] <mamed> dual panel also? OMG it was so usefull
[16:09] <HypnotiX> np :)
[16:09] <holstein> mamed: yes.. that is the answer.. the filemanager doesnt have the features by default that you seek
[16:10] <MonkeyDust> mamed  yes, i regret it too, the F3 dual pane
[16:10] <holstein> mamed: there are *many* other ones, such as the one mentioned at the link you gave which is AFAIK a fork of nutilus
[16:10] <mamed> MonkeyDust, :D
[16:10] <mamed> holstein,  yes
[16:10] <mamed> nemo is a fork afaik
[16:11] <holstein> mamed: then, if it better suits your, needs, use it, though i think its only available via PPA and not officially supported. though there are *many* other filemanagers, as i have mentioned
[16:11] <mamed> i will take a look at nemo which is a nau* fork
[16:12] <mamed> thank you so much for your attention guyz
[16:12] <ABDULLAH> holstein it's complicated. Just tell me the command to give permission to it.
[16:13] <holstein> ABDULLAH: i dont feel comfortable doing that.. its your code, and you should understand how to execute it, and what it is going to do on your system, or not be doing what you are doing
[16:14] <ABDULLAH> but i'm totally new. i don't know even a little. i love ubuntu .so i
[16:14] <ABDULLAH> diverted to ubuntu leaving windows.
[16:14] <holstein> ABDULLAH: then, you likely should not be doint what you are doing.. i am *not* new, by any means, and i dont run custom applications i have created on my system
[16:14] <MonkeyDust> ABDULLAH  start with the basics, later on, you can learn about permissions et al
[16:15] <holstein> ABDULLAH: im not trying to discourage you.. im just suggesting, you will want to know about permissions, and executing code and what that means.. and user permissions.. there are not "i just installed linux" friendly topics necessarily.. but i dont feel comfortable giving you a copy-paste command to run code that neither of us fully understand
[16:17] <diphtherial> i'm not sure where to start in figuring out this guy's problem with his bootloader
[16:17] <diphtherial> he claims that he didn't do anything to it in the last session, aside from installing the routine updates
[16:18] <holstein> diphtherial: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[16:18] <ABDULLAH> oh i'm learning programming. i creates .c files and then run it.when i run it then a window opens showing the directory where i saved the .c file and then ":permission denied" without quotation.
[16:18] <wilee-nilee> diphtherial, There is the bootrepiar tool that generates a bootinfo summary alone if you choose just that to analyze the setup.
[16:18] <ljetibo> Hello it's not exactly spot on ubuntu question but close enough, I've just upgraded from ubuntu 10.4 to 12.04 and I'm having problems installing python2.6 (and it needs to be python2.6 because some of the modules I import do not work for other versions) so I installed python 2.6.6 from the ubuntu software center, I also installed "IDLE for python (version 2-6) using Tkinter" and now when I try to start IDLE (from terminal because no new icons were
[16:18] <ljetibo> created) I get the following message ** IDLE can't import Tkinter.  Your Python may not be configured for Tk. **. I looked it up online and they all say you have to install IDLE separately because it's not suported anymore, but I already did that. I installed python2.6-tk despite it  and it still doesn't work (same error message). I've tried other internet advice with some manual install guidelines and now I've just made a mess. Can anyone help me
[16:18] <ljetibo> install python 2.6 on Ubuntu 12.04?
[16:18] <FloodBot1> ljetibo: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:18] <holstein> ABDULLAH: as i said, when you got here, this channel is for ubuntu support, not programming
[16:18] <bekks> ljetibo: tldr; ;)
[16:19] <ljetibo> xD
[16:19] <ljetibo> sorry
[16:19] <ljetibo> I blab too much sometimes
[16:20] <holstein> ljetibo: i might consider https://launchpad.net/~fkrull/+archive/deadsnakes though, keep in mind, ppa's are not officially supported
[16:20] <ABDULLAH> but it asks permission from ubuntu directory. i want to know how to give it permission?
[16:20] <holstein> !chown | ABDULLAH
[16:21] <holstein> !chown
[16:21] <ABDULLAH> or can you refer to a channel of c programming.
[16:21] <ljetibo> holdtein: yeah I already tried http://askubuntu.com/questions/125342/how-can-i-install-python-2-6-on-12-04
[16:21] <bekks> ABDULLAH: It has nothing to do with programming.
[16:21] <diphtherial> wilee-nilee: thanks, i'll have him try that
[16:21] <holstein> ABDULLAH: http://irc.netsplit.de/channels/?net=freenode
[16:23] <raub> abd-allah: I could not find the issue you are having. Care to explain it quickly?
[16:24] <raub> (I did scroll and feel I missed something)
[16:24] <diphtherial> so, this is the output from the boot repair utility: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6021906/
[16:25] <diphtherial> (this is from running boot repair from a live CD; he can't boot into any of his partitions, including his windows one)
[16:26] <diphtherial> if any of you have any ideas about it, i'd be forever grateful
[16:26] <abd-allah> raub: when i write some code in .c file using codeblocks ide then i run the file using F9 command. then it opens a window showing the directory where i saved the .c source file and then "permission denied".it means it can't get permission to the file to execute.
[16:26] <holstein> diphtherial: bad hard drive, or other hardware
[16:26] <diphtherial> holstein: what makes you think that?
[16:26] <diphtherial> it's a new machine, new hard disk afaik
[16:26] <diphtherial> not to say that it's not bad, but i'd rather eliminate other possibilities
[16:27] <holstein> diphtherial: i dont.. its just a possibility.. new stuff breaks too, and *all* hard drives fail
[16:27] <diphtherial> right, eventually
[16:27] <diphtherial> but he was running windows fine before this; the problems started up when he tried to install ubuntu
[16:27] <holstein> diphtherial: i like to eliminate that possibility.. since new hard drives are just as likely
[16:27] <diphtherial> i mean, is there anything in what i pasted that indicates it's hard drive failure? it seems like the tool was able to detect all of the partitions just fine
[16:28] <Aravindgeek> abd-allah : did the source file is in ext2 or similar file systems. and not in fat or ntfs.
[16:29] <wilee-nilee> diphtherial, The live cd in disks has a smart check, the windows partitions are not showing any bootloader info. Did they resize windows with the ubuntu installer?
[16:29] <raub> abd-allah: are you running the program as the same user who saved the .c file? Do you own that directory?
[16:29] <wilee-nilee> when was the original install diphtherial ?
[16:29] <diphtherial> wilee-nilee: i don't believe so, no, although i wasn't there when he installed it
[16:29] <diphtherial> it was about a week ago; everything was running fine, through multiple reboots
[16:30] <ljetibo> anyhow, when I try sudo apt-get install python2.6 returns: python2.6 is already the newest version. Same repeats when I try install python2.6-dev and idle-python2.6
[16:30] <diphtherial> (well, he had some initial trouble getting grub installed, but he eventually did it through the live CD)
[16:30] <raub> diphtherial: can you mount those drives?
[16:30] <raub> (er, partitions) :)
[16:30] <diphtherial> raub: yes, he's able to browse them fine, he says
[16:30] <abd-allah> raub:yes
[16:30] <diphtherial> (this is from the live CD, again)
[16:30] <wilee-nilee> diphtherial, Have they tried previous kernels for the ubuntu there was a upgrade lately some have had problems with, with nvidia drivers.
[16:30] <abd-allah> Aravindgeek:ext4
[16:30] <raub> Did you check if the uuid is still proper?
[16:30] <holstein> diphtherial: i would go to the hardware.. i feel there is not much to do "3rd party" in this way.. it could be anything
[16:30] <diphtherial> when he attempts to boot from the drive, grub thinks all his partitions are MSDOS partitions and doesn't allow any of them to boot
[16:31] <abd-allah> Aravindgeek :ext4 file system.
[16:31] <diphtherial> wilee-nilee: ah, they haven't tried previous kernels afaik; i don't think they can even get that far into the boot process
[16:31] <holstein> diphtherial: an error message about this "msdos" idea would be nicd
[16:31] <holstein> nice*
[16:31] <diphtherial> for what it's worth, i'm providing support over facebook; bandwidth is limited
[16:31] <holstein> diphtherial: send them here
[16:31] <wilee-nilee> diphtherial, That does not make sense that is their interpretation, what eveidence shows msdos the partition table is msdos
[16:32] <Aravindgeek> adb-allah : did you tried to use gcc in terminal and execute in same folder.
[16:32] <wilee-nilee> the script shows standard partitions
[16:32] <raub> abd-allah: as the said user, go to the directory in question and create a dummy file (using touch) and make it executable
[16:33] <diphtherial> wilee-nilee: his current problem started occurring after installing recommended updates this morning, and he does have an nvidia card
[16:33] <diphtherial> let me ask him what he means about the drives being "MSDOS" drives, because i don't know what that means, either
[16:33] <abd-allah> Aravindgeek: I don't know how to use gcc.
[16:33] <holstein> diphtherial: you are assuming the upgrade triggered that.. and im not saying it didnt..
[16:33] <wilee-nilee> diphtherial, Have them run the previous kernel from grub
[16:33] <abd-allah> raub: how to use touch and make it executable?
[16:34] <diphtherial> holstein: well, it's the last thing that changed; i know, user error, he probably deleted his fstab, etc.
[16:34] <holstein> diphtherial: unless you send him here, or you actually go to the machine, i dont think this is going to be very constructive
[16:34] <raub> touch file and then chmod +x file
[16:34] <diphtherial> holstein: fair enough, but i think he's fed up with this already...
[16:34] <luisssss> hello everybody good morning
[16:35] <raub> I wonder what would happen if diphtherial have the guy login using the server install disk, then go to restore mode, mount the root partition, and then do upgrade-grub
[16:35] <diphtherial> still waiting on him for what he means by grub showing MSDOS drives, but perhaps i'll give up after that
[16:35] <diphtherial> raub: is there a difference between using the server install disk and the ordinary live CD?
[16:35] <diphtherial> he can use the live CD fine, it seems
[16:35] <holstein> diphtherial: i understand that can be frustrating, but as a volunteer here, i would prefer dealing with you at least actually being at the hardware, or your friend
[16:36] <raub> diphtherial: if it gives you any hint, last time I had issues like that is because I have a 512MB /boot partition and forget to delete old kernels :)
[16:36] <diphtherial> holstein: i understand, and i apologize that he's not here directly/i'm not there
[16:36] <raub> diphtherial: I think the server cd does the chroot for you
[16:37] <diphtherial> raub: interesting; that'd kind of make sense why it occurred after an update. ah, and he's been doing the chroot himself; in fact, that's how he loads his ethernet drivers when he's booted into the live CD
[16:37] <luisssss> o like to ask for help, i just installed lubuntu 13.04 yesterday, everything od ok, but the sound, the thing is that the icon is manage by "PCM" but when i try to adjust the volume it foed not respond, the one that repond is "master" can some one help me to gix this please
[16:38] <raub> diphtherial: but he does not seem to have a separate boot partition
[16:38] <inerkick> I have a shell script which has to be run just before the system shutdown. What to do, kindly help
[16:38] <raub> It would be smart for him to find out which kernels he has installed and delete the last one
[16:39] <raub> you know, using dpkg
[16:39] <inerkick> my script does nthing more it writes some text to file and
[16:39] <inerkick> waits(sleeps) for 20 second
[16:39] <inerkick> i tried running this script manually it works fine
[16:39] <inerkick> but when i put the same file in etc/init.d
[16:39] <inerkick> and create 2 symlink in  etc/rc0 and etc/rc6 by name 'K95customscript'
[16:39] <FloodBot1> inerkick: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:39] <inerkick> and restart the OS the script is not called as i can see nothing is
[16:39] <diphtherial> raub: i'll suggest that to him, thanks
[16:39] <Navo_Leo> !help
[16:40] <psy^> can anyone recommend a good resource detailing which linux services do what? would like to really lighten my netbook install load
[16:40] <inerkick> sorry FloodBot1 here it is http://paste.ubuntu.com/6021987/
[16:40] <ljetibo> I have been informed that what I'm need to do is "rebuild Python with Tkinter" and that he incantation is something like `apt-get build-deps python2.6` or something
[16:40] <draconus> is it wise to use raid1 these days? or should i rather split those drives?
[16:40] <ljetibo> can anyone here explain more about this?
[16:40] <raub> draconus: my NAS has 2 drives, so I do raid1
[16:40] <O[_]> is there any UI that looks like windows
[16:41] <O[_]> preferably something before vista
[16:41] <pepper_chico> O[_] isn't Mint like that?
[16:41] <psy^> O[_]: i like Linux Mint. its very familair to use
[16:41] <psy^> heh pepper_chico  :)
[16:41] <draconus> raub: just not sure what my gain is when using raid1 compared to non-raid
[16:41] <pepper_chico> heh =)
[16:41] <holstein> O[_]: i think all fo them do to some extent.. i think xfce/xubuntu does in some ways.. so does lxde/lubuntu
[16:41] <Aravindgeek> 0[_]: !xfce4
[16:41] <cgtdk> !xfce4
[16:41] <holstein> psy^: mint is not a UI, its a distro..
[16:41] <cgtdk> damn bot
[16:41] <psy^> ah, true
[16:42] <cgtdk> holstein: He probably means Cinnamon
[16:42] <holstein> cgtdk: ask him
[16:42] <cgtdk> holstein: I refuse to do so
[16:42] <pepper_chico> I've tried the very OS X like elementary, it's cool
[16:42] <holstein> cinammon is in the ubuntu repos now
[16:42] <inerkick> I am having this issue. can anyone help http://paste.ubuntu.com/6021987/
[16:42] <lotuspsychje> !ot | pepper_chico
[16:42] <holstein> elementaryOS is also not a UI.. its a distro
[16:42] <luisssss> i like to ask for help, i just installed lubuntu 13.04 yesterday, everything is ok, but the sound, the thing is that the icon is manage by "PCM" but when i try to adjust the volume it does not respond, the one that repond is "master" can some one help me to fix this please
[16:42] <raub> draconus: it all boils down to how much you like your data
[16:43] <pepper_chico> I know it
[16:43] <psy^> mate and lxde
[16:43] <psy^> those are the most intuitive i've used when coming from a windows mindset
[16:43] <wolffff> hi, im trying this " sudo mount /mnt/home /home /    gives me an error: /mnt/home is not a block device ???? any ideas? this is a VHD , not a physical disk
[16:43] <holstein> mate is not in the default repos, and not officially supported here
[16:43] <lotuspsychje> guys, stick to ubuntu support questionbs only please
[16:44] <pepper_chico> but some distros caries the ui and ties more to it
[16:44] <raub> wolffff: /mnt should not have devices in. Are you sure it is not in /dev/something/home?
[16:44] <luisssss> thats because /mnt/home is a file
[16:44] <O[_]> what uis does mint have
[16:45] <raub> luisssss: like an iso? If so he needs to do the loop mount option thingie
[16:45] <lotuspsychje> luisssss: maybe the #lubuntu guys might know?
[16:45] <O[_]> mint looks more like windows 7 which I hate
[16:45] <luisssss> maybe if you type "lsusb" on terminal it will tell you the right path for your device
[16:45] <pepper_chico> I've opened a bounty at my supporting question: http://askubuntu.com/q/335489/152691
[16:45] <lotuspsychje> O[_]: please use #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:46] <luisssss> ok
[16:46] <luisssss> #lubuntu
[16:46] <pepper_chico> O[_], there was also a distro called PCLinuxOS, not sure it's what you're looking
[16:46] <farinata88> ciao
[16:46] <farinata88> !list
[16:46] <diphtherial> ok, i think it was the nvidia driver, not sure who mentioned that
[16:47] <diphtherial> he apparently was able to boot into his windows partition by holding shift, which predictably showed his installed OSes instead of booting into the first one and crashing...
[16:47] <diphtherial> (sorry, i realize this would've been much more straightforward if i'd been sitting there)
[16:47] <raub> inerkick: Check out update-rc.d
[16:48] <inerkick> what it does raub
[16:48] <wolffff> thanks ...and is the rsync command to copy everything from /home to /destination   " rsync --progresss -r /home /destination " ?
[16:48] <raub> diphtherial: sounds like all he needs to do is fix the default boot thingie in grub
[16:49] <bekks> wolffff: better use rsync -av
[16:49] <wolffff> bekks,  thanks what is the -av for ?
[16:49] <tripelb> psy^: what is a linux 'service"?
[16:49] <bekks> wolffff: That will use the options -a and -v
[16:49] <raub> wolffff: man rsync
[16:49] <wolffff> thanks
[16:50] <raub> wolffff: there are tons of crazy rsync options BTW. Get popcorn
[16:50] <wolffff> lol , i see that ...
[16:51] <Lededje> Hello
[16:52] <Lededje> Is anyone else on this channel?
[16:52] <raub> inerkick: http://www.debuntu.org/how-to-managing-services-with-update-rc-d/
[16:53] <raub> My issue is I don't know if level 6 is the default shutdown
[16:53] <lotuspsychje> Lededje: 1600 users are
[16:53] <domedagen> Hi, I have a ridiculously difficult question
[16:53] <raub> that might be biting you
[16:53] <gordonjcp> lotuspsychje: this is probably one of the most populous channels on freenode, I think
[16:53] <O[_]> I forgot my password
[16:53] <O[_]> now i cant install apps
[16:54] <domedagen> I was about to install new graphics drivers when my computer crashed
[16:54] <domedagen> Now I cant boot to GUI
[16:54] <lotuspsychje> gordonjcp: on the most popular Os :p
[16:54] <raub> O[_]: boot into inslge user, change it, win
[16:54] <domedagen> When I try startx I get no screens found
[16:54] <raub> s/inslge/single/
[16:54] <O[_]> ?
[16:54] <domedagen> What can I do?
[16:54] <inerkick> yes i was going through that initially raub but my issue is to run a process just before shutdown isn't?
[16:54] <O[_]> is this a live cd thingy
[16:54] <gordonjcp> !password | O[_]
[16:56] <inerkick> and will it automatically do it raub
[16:56] <raub> inerkick: I agree. But as I said I do not know if a normal shutdown uses rc6 or not.
[16:56] <Aravindgeek> domedagen : recovery mode - repair broken packages may help
[16:56] <raub> Or that is reboot
[16:56] <lotuspsychje> domedagen: ubuntu version and grafix card?
[16:56] <kisuke> ok any one know how to mount a SMB/NFS share in PCmanfm?
[16:57] <raub> inerkick: Right now I can't remember all the run levels in linux. All that is popping in my mind are solaris ones (5: shutdown, 6: reboot)
[16:57] <psy^> tripelb: daemons, basically. running 'service --status-all' from a bash prompt will show their active status
[16:58] <domedagen> lotuspsychje: Ubuntu 12.04, nvidia 9400 GT
[16:58] <O[_]> shift or esc aint working
[16:58] <O[_]> when rebooting
[16:58] <domedagen> Aravindgeek: Let me try that again
[16:58] <O[_]> its just booting normally
[16:58] <lotuspsychje> domedagen: like Aravindgeek says, recoverymode from grub might help
[16:59] <raub> O[_]: get your favourite livecd and have at it
[16:59] <lotuspsychje> !failsafe > lotuspsychje
[16:59] <O[_]> I dont have one
[16:59] <kisuke> raub: isint system v based on solaris?
[16:59] <holstein> O[_]: http://askubuntu.com/questions/24006/how-do-i-reset-a-lost-administrative-password
[16:59] <anonee> hello ubuntu, do I have to be sudo to add a key using gpg?
[16:59] <O[_]> is there no easier way
[16:59] <kisuke> anonee: you should not.
[16:59] <raub> kisuke: or the other way around. All I know is that I used to love solaris until oracle ate them
[17:00] <O[_]> ive held down shift!
[17:00] <O[_]> it isnt doing anything
[17:00] <kisuke> raub: same with all of suns old stuff.
[17:00] <raub> anonee: a key to what?
[17:00] <lotuspsychje> kisuke: maybe the !smb trigger might be usefull for you?
[17:00] <O[_]> I have the ubuntu cd
[17:00] <O[_]> to install it
[17:00] <kisuke> raub: IIRC system v and solaris levels are almost identical.
[17:00] <anonee> youtube-dl for instance
[17:00] <kisuke> lotuspsychje: thanks
[17:00] <holstein> O[_]: then, boot it.. the option i linked is to repair the lost cd from grub
[17:01] <bekks> kisuke: Solaris uses SMF nowadays.
[17:01] <domedagen> Aravindgeek: "There are no new upgrades available for your system. The upgrade will now be canceled. Do you want to start the upgrade?"
[17:01] <anonee> raub youtube-dl
[17:01] <holstein> O[_]: booting a live CD will depend on your bios setting and particular hardware..
[17:01] <holstein> !bios
[17:01] <anonee> raub and tor...
[17:01] <holstein> O[_]: usually, its F2 or escape or delete key
[17:01] <domedagen> Aravindgeek: Im going to go with a yes
[17:01] <anonee> raub looks like it won't add it
[17:02] <raub> holstein: man to his MB/computer would have an answer
[17:02] <Aravindgeek> domedagen :  I don't get it.
[17:02] <raub> anonee: unfortunatelt I've never used it
[17:03] <RichardHolland> BluesKaj, i tried the instructions on the page you suggested. It doesn't work
[17:03] <domedagen> Aravindgeek: Me neither, it sounded like there was no update, but it still asked to continue
[17:03] <raub> I have added keys to my own user stuff (for emails and such) and for a local repository
[17:03] <holstein> O[_]: to be clear, what raub is suggesting is to refer to the user manual or documenation for the hardware to see how to enter the bios or boot media
[17:03] <kisuke> bekks: to mean that means Simple Machines Forum. I'm pretty sure thats not what you are refering to.
[17:04] <anonee> raub sounds good i wish i could learn such things but dunno... a lot of things to learn!
[17:04] <BluesKaj> RichardHolland , exactly what doesn't work , did you reboot after the settings and run sudo dhclient eth0 ?
[17:04] <bekks> kisuke: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Service_Management_Facility - and now back to something more ontopic.
[17:04] <kisuke> bekks: ty
[17:04] <anonee> i'm getting keyserver receive failed: keyserver error...
[17:04] <O[_]> ok done
[17:05] <RichardHolland> BluesKaj, i restarted the the network interface with the comment networking restart
[17:05] <raub> anonee: pastebin?
[17:05] <RichardHolland> BluesKaj, i didn't reboot. Would that help?
[17:05] <lotuspsychje> RichardHolland: what error did you have?
[17:05] <raub> O[_]: done = boot using livecd?
[17:05] <inerkick> i don't get raub
[17:05] <inerkick> still
[17:05] <domedagen> Aravindgeek: The problem remains. I've tried googling this for hours. Is there a way to make it redo all the GUI set up?
[17:05] <RichardHolland> BluesKaj, if i try a nslookup it time out. On the restart of the service i don't get a error
[17:06] <BluesKaj> RichardHolland, yes , unfortunately it does , linux used to pride itself on not requiring reboots , but that has changed
[17:06] <RichardHolland> BluesKaj, OK. So I'm gonna reboot. No problem.
[17:06] <anonee> raub http://pastebin.com/zBJ4kE5L
[17:06] <BluesKaj> ri run sudo dhclient eth0
[17:06] <BluesKaj> RichardHolland,^
[17:07] <raub> anonee: you can't reach that keyserver
[17:07] <anonee> raub why?
[17:07] <domedagen> Aravindgeek: Like maybe recheck if there is any screens? Should i plug in and plug out GPU?
[17:07] <RichardHolland> BluesKaj, that works
[17:07] <raub> it could be down or having lunch. Maybe there is a backup one
[17:07] <RichardHolland> BluesKaj, why? Please explain.. .I wanna learn
[17:07] <O[_]> unable to read package 'emerald
[17:08] <O[_]> I did sudo apt-get install emerald
[17:08] <raub> O[_]: try apt-cache search emerald
[17:08] <Aravindgeek> domedagen : i am not sure but you may try .
[17:08] <raub> O[_]: I thought you had a pw issue
[17:09] <domedagen> Aravindgeek: Ok trying
[17:09] <bazhang> !emerald | O[_]
[17:09] <RichardHolland> BluesKaj, By the way. Thanks helping solve the problem. I just hope you can explain what just happend.
[17:09] <O[_]> fixed that
[17:09] <O[_]> what is compiz
[17:10] <BluesKaj> RichardHolland, dhclient assigns your static IP to dhcp
[17:10] <anonee> O[_] just google compiz, you should read a little about it if you insist on using emerald
[17:11] <RichardHolland> BluesKaj, But i wanna use a static address. So why is DHCP still in the game?
[17:11] <O[_]> i might not now idk
[17:11] <RichardHolland> BluesKaj, Will it keep working after rebooting?
[17:11] <BluesKaj> dhcpis always in the game , the IP remains static , RichardHolland
[17:12] <Aravindgeek> domedagen : try removing xserver config file and reboot . may work.
[17:12] <RichardHolland> BluesKaj, thanks for explaining. I won't forget it next time
[17:12] <RichardHolland> BluesKaj, I didn't find it anywhere in all the many pages i looked up on this isue
[17:13] <domedagen> Aravindgeek: you mean like /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
[17:13] <domedagen> Just rm?
[17:13] <Aravindgeek> domedagen : yes.
[17:14] <Aravindgeek> domedagen : backup before do.
[17:14] <megonfle167> domedagen, better use mv than rm...
[17:14] <O[_]> whatts the path to desktop
[17:14] <BluesKaj> RichardHolland, http://linux.about.com/library/cmd/blcmdl8_dhclient.htm
[17:15] <O[_]> infact where do I extract this to, its a skin for ubuntu
[17:15] <megonfle167> O[_], ~/Desktop
[17:15] <O[_]> thanks
[17:17] <BluesKaj> O[_], which is short for /home/username/Desktop
[17:17] <RichardHolland> BluesKaj, OK, from her on i am gonna setup the firewall for the server first.  Suggestions on that one. I don't wanna use the GUI version. So I'll guess i am gonna use iptables
[17:17] <O[_]> how do I install this skin for ubuntu
[17:17] <RichardHolland> BluesKaj, i have bookmarked the page on the dhcp. Thanks
[17:17] <O[_]> theres two folders gkt and metacity
[17:17] <O[_]> both have images, menus etc in
[17:18] <BluesKaj> RichardHolland, iptables and servers aren't my strong suit
[17:18] <lotuspsychje> RichardHolland: the #ubuntu-server guys might assist you on it for sure
[17:18] <Aravindgeek> bye. opensource rocks :)
[17:19] <RichardHolland> BluesKaj, no problem. You helped a lot. Thanks for your quick reactions and good suggestions
[17:19] <lotuspsychje> !cookie | BluesKaj
[17:19] <O[_]> its called LUNA EVo
[17:20] <lotuspsychje> O[_]: this chat is not meant to describe every step what your doing mate
[17:20] <lotuspsychje> O[_]: please ask serious questions after you looked it up a bit, and be stuck on it
[17:21] <O[_]> theres nothing in google about how to install it
[17:21] <pepper_chico> I'm stuck with the Launcher unhide  http://askubuntu.com/q/335489/152691
[17:22] <domedagen> Aravind I'll try this thing first, which requires cleaning, which requires disassembly and if I can start it afterward Ill try that
[17:26] <lotuspsychje> !eyecandy | O[_]
[17:34] <O[_]> ok I have the folder in -/themes now
[17:36] <RichardHolland> BluesKaj, Uhmmm. sorry.. but, after rebooting i have to give a manual dhclient eth0 to make it work again. Is it possible that it works right away after a boot? Do I have to make a script for it too work?
[17:37] <O[_]> how do I apply this theme
[17:37] <bazhang> O[_], this is mint?
[17:37] <O[_]> ubuntu
[17:38] <O[_]> I extracted it to -/themes
[17:38] <bazhang> O[_], which version
[17:38] <O[_]> how do I check
[17:38] <O[_]> its like the newest one
[17:38] <bazhang> !version | O[_]
[17:38] <linuxuz3r__> do you really need refit to run ubuntu in macbook pro
[17:39] <lotuspsychje> !mac | linuxuz3r__
[17:40] <O[_]> ubuntu 12.04.2 lts
[17:45] <majornick> I keep seeing this term "swap" with my RAM and HDD. what does this mean?
[17:45] <lotuspsychje> !swap | majornick
[17:49] <wilee-nilee> majornick, Do you use hibernate?
[17:49] <O[_]> ill ask in the forum instead
[17:51] <X-User> Hello, How to disable Ubuntu One?
[17:51] <wilee-nilee> X-User, If you did not enable it is is already.
[17:52] <majornick> ok after reading the "swap" info. i want to ask a stupid question. so i have swap set up already from a Unetbootin iso usb live install clean? or do i need to set this thing up now?
[17:52] <holstein> majornick: you can set up what you need
[17:53] <wilee-nilee> X-User, user otherwise. http://askubuntu.com/questions/23183/how-do-i-disable-ubuntu-one
[17:53] <X-User> wilee-nilee, well, I clicked on the Icon from the Launcher in mistake, from then it is showing a "cloud" icon in my panel, created a folder named "Ubuntu One" and always starting when I start my computer.
[17:53] <majornick> holstein: what do i need? i got 8gb ram so should i set up a 16gb swap or is it already set up for me or should i set it up?
[17:54] <holstein> majornick: you dont need swap if you dont need it.. i usually suggest just letting the automated installer automate that if you are not comfortable
[17:54] <wolffff> hi, what should my  fstab file look like after i move my /home to a new drive. at this stage i have  only  two line in my fstab , one   /       and swap .... must i just add UUID=blablala /home ext4 to the line below the swap ?
[17:54] <majornick> holstein: ok thanks
[17:54] <daftykins> wolffff: you can, though you'll need to delete the contents of the /home on /
[17:54] <X-User> wilee-nilee, I checked that link already, but is not there they are saying to remove the ubuntu one package completely? I just want to disable it.
[17:55] <daftykins> wolffff: so you'll want to do that in a liveCD/USB
[17:55] <wolffff> everything is removed and mounted...just need to make it a permanent mount
[17:55] <HypnotiX> guys i need some serious help i cant get my pc to work again for the passed 2 days
[17:56] <wilee-nilee> X-User, I have not used it, its probably been added to startup applications, or there is a preferences in the app.
[17:56] <lotuspsychje> HypnotiX: what happened mate
[17:56] <HypnotiX> lotuspsychje: its a long story but i think i need to say it to understand better what happend
[17:56] <majornick> holstein: so the "swap" is for if we dont have enogh RAM?
[17:56] <holstein> !swap
[17:56] <holstein> majornick: ^
[17:57] <majornick> holstein: sorry
[17:57] <wilee-nilee> X-User, That link tells you "If all you want to do is disable the file synchronization daemon, however, you can simply disable the service in ubuntuone-preferences, from the Services tab:"
[17:57] <holstein> majornick: nah.. no worries.. just wanting to be clear
[17:57] <HypnotiX> lotuspsychje: so 2 days i got an update error from ubuntu saying that it needs to install a partial upgrade with some microsoft fonts crap
[17:57] <wilee-nilee> not sure if that is what works for you.
[17:57] <Guest9384> Xholy
[17:57] <HypnotiX> wilee-nilee:  if you can please read what im writing too
[17:57] <Guest9384> to you
[17:57] <majornick> holstein: i am reading it man but i gots me some understanding issues no worries thanks you again
[17:57] <HypnotiX> i really need to fix my pc somehow
[17:58] <Guest9384> did you understood me??
[17:58] <Guest9384> ((
[17:58] <lotuspsychje> HypnotiX: i guided you last time to clean install ubuntu, did you not work?
[17:58] <wilee-nilee> HypnotiX, I might if you stop posting stuff like this " some microsoft fonts (crap)" that sort if stuff is offensive.
[17:58] <HypnotiX> next morning when i tried to start my pc ubuntu wouldent load, not even in recovery mode so i tried to format my hdd to start fresh
[17:58] <Guest9384> how change nick to true?
[17:58] <majornick> HypnotiX: live usb?
[17:59] <Guest9384> but I have license!!
[17:59] <HypnotiX> majornick: im on live usb right now yes
[17:59] <majornick> HypnotiX: nice. can you install?
[17:59] <HypnotiX> i tried to do a full wipe with the dd command
[17:59] <X-User> wilee-nilee, where is "Services tab" ?
[17:59] <wilee-nilee> X-User, Not sure I have it removed, must be a drop down in it somewhere.
[17:59] <majornick> HypnotiX: Unetbootin?
[17:59] <HypnotiX> but i was dumb enough to stop it before it finished and then my hdd basicly stopped working properly
[18:00] <Guest9384> /
[18:00] <bekks> HypnotiX: It doesnt matter when it finishes.
[18:00] <X-User> wilee-nilee, ok, I am looking for it.
[18:00] <Guest9384> (((((((((((
[18:00] <bekks> HypnotiX: dd is not responsible for your drive not working correctly anymore.
[18:00] <majornick> Ubuntu is AWESOME!
[18:00] <wilee-nilee> Guest9384, Your not making much sense.
[18:01] <HypnotiX> well right now i tested that hdd on another pc and the software from western digital and it found a lot of bad sectors
[18:01] <Guest9384> hey!!
[18:01] <bekks> HypnotiX: So replace the hdd then.
[18:01] <HypnotiX> after i did a full wipe with it writing zeroes on it
[18:01] <bekks> HypnotiX: The bad sectors were there before.
[18:01] <holstein> Guest9384: please use the #ubuntu-offtopic channel for chat
[18:01] <Guest9384> where are clear water??
[18:01] <HypnotiX> and i did bekks i have a new hdd now that i am trying to install ubuntu on
[18:01] <daftykins> HypnotiX: oh hi again. that disk is toast
[18:01] <daftykins> ah good good
[18:01] <HypnotiX> ok ok
[18:01] <HypnotiX> but nowwwww i still cant install on this one either
[18:02] <Guest9384> I have Question to this chanell
[18:02] <bekks> HypnotiX: Why not?
[18:02] <lotuspsychje> HypnotiX: what error you got now?
[18:02] <Guest9384> problem with change name!!
[18:02] <bekks> Guest9384: So whats your question?
[18:02] <X-User> !ask | Guest9384
[18:02] <HypnotiX> i dont get to the screen to chose how to install ubuntu, im sent straight to the screen with gparted from the installer and i dont see my hdd there
[18:02] <holstein> !freenode | Guest9384
[18:02] <Guest9384> I have name TrueFlow
[18:03] <Guest9384> but x-system do not allow to change name
[18:03] <HypnotiX> this is a new usb stick that i installed the 13.04 distro on like 30mins ago so that cant be the problem
[18:03] <lotuspsychje> HypnotiX: what hd brand and did you connect it well in your box?
[18:03] <holstein> Guest9384: add a new user, move data to that new user account
[18:03] <majornick> HypnotiX: unetbootin?
[18:03] <HypnotiX> western digital
[18:04] <bekks> HypnotiX: And even a new usb stick might be faulty.
[18:04] <HypnotiX> and i did, and i tried different sata slots
[18:04] <lotuspsychje> HypnotiX: you didnt forget jumpers?
[18:04] <Guest9384> so //
[18:04] <HypnotiX> i dont have any jumpers
[18:04] <lotuspsychje> nvm
[18:04] <HypnotiX> sata3 :P
[18:04] <Guest9384> How to change name to real side
[18:04] <majornick> what app are you using to creat the live usb/.
[18:04] <HypnotiX> majornick: what?
[18:04] <bekks> Guest9384: Change which name and where?
[18:04] <HypnotiX> the one from windows
[18:04] <lotuspsychje> HypnotiX: did you check bios if hd shows?
[18:04] <majornick> what "one" from windows
[18:04] <HypnotiX> yeah it shows
[18:04] <Guest9384> here
[18:05] <lotuspsychje> HypnotiX: and ubuntu sees no hd?
[18:05] <HypnotiX> majornick: the one recommended on the ubuntu website
[18:05] <bekks> HypnotiX: just tell us the name.
[18:05] <majornick> what .exe are you using in windows to creat this usb live?
[18:05] <HypnotiX> gparted sees it but the installer does not
[18:05] <HypnotiX> i have to check
[18:05] <HypnotiX> give me a sec
[18:05] <majornick> oh lord
[18:05] <wolffff> this is gonna drive me nuts
[18:05] <lotuspsychje> HypnotiX: on what part of the installer freezes?
[18:05] <X-User> so still unable to find how to Disable Ubuntu One completely other than removing it, anybody know?
[18:05] <bekks> Guest9384: there is no point in contacting me outside this channel.
[18:06] <childcare> ..
[18:06] <HypnotiX> it doesnt freeze i just sends me to the gparted screen and i dont see the partitions or my hdd there
[18:06] <holstein> Guest9384: can i help you find a channel in your native language?
[18:06] <majornick> HypnotiX: start over with Unetbootin okay?
[18:06] <Guest9384> ok
[18:06] <majornick> good
[18:07] <X-User> ok  I give up, Need to Uninstall Ubuntu One.
[18:07] <HypnotiX> majornick: is that for windows ?
[18:07] <majornick> HypnotiX: yes
[18:07] <HypnotiX> majornick: ok i will try
[18:07] <Guest9384> arahna big thanks!!
[18:08] <majornick> HypnotiX: http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/
[18:08] <lotuspsychje> HypnotiX: you mean the screen you choose ubuntu install on your whole hd?
[18:08] <X-User> what is better Uninstalling Ubuntu One with command line as described in here http://askubuntu.com/questions/23183/how-do-i-disable-ubuntu-one , or Uninstalling it with Ubuntu Software Centre?
[18:08] <bekks> X-User: Doesnt matter.
[18:09] <holstein> X-User: i just dont use it.. and see no need to remove it.. if you want to remove it, either should do that
[18:10] <Guest9384> |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| can you understand ancient language??
[18:11] <majornick> I uninstalled Ubuntu One several times but there is no point its actually a nice thingy
[18:11] <waterlite> ya
[18:11]  * lotuspsychje doesnt trust cloud storages
[18:11] <majornick> me niether but what the hell
[18:12] <X-User> holstein, I also don't use it, but I clicked on Ubuntu One icon by mistake, and its started from then, its so annoying.
[18:12] <HypnotiX> lotuspsychje: yes
[18:12] <MonkeyDust> lotuspsychje  wuala encrypts client side, before uploading to the cload
[18:12] <lotuspsychje> MonkeyDust: im aware ubuntu one is safe, but i wotn use it :p
[18:13] <majornick> is there a ghp cloud?
[18:13] <majornick> *gpg
[18:13] <X-User> I know Ubuntu One is great service but I already use other cloud service, so I don't need it.
[18:13] <majornick> encrypted cloud?
[18:14] <MonkeyDust> majornick  exlpore wuala.com
[18:14] <HypnotiX> someone said that on some wd hdd you cant install ubuntu, is there a list?
[18:14] <majornick> MonkeyDust: reallly>?
[18:14] <bekks> HypnotiX: Thats a lie, at all.
[18:14] <lotuspsychje> HypnotiX: tell us at wich part of install you get stuck
[18:15] <lotuspsychje> HypnotiX: doesnt make sense bios sees hd and ubuntu not..
[18:15] <HypnotiX> ubuntu sees it
[18:15] <HypnotiX> the installer does not
[18:15] <X-User> MonkeyDust, hmm, just don't use MEGA :P
[18:15] <lotuspsychje> HypnotiX: so after choosing updates in installer, what happens next?
[18:15] <FireAndIce> bekks, fsck did not help.
[18:15] <majornick> MonkeyDust: that wuala.com thing is so far out of my leauge just looking at the main page is scaring me :(
[18:16] <bekks> FireAndIce: so what did you do? do you have enough free space on the disk?
[18:16] <HypnotiX> i get to the partition screen and i dont see any hdd or partitions to select where to install
[18:16] <OerHeks> HypnotiX, is the size 2gb ormore?
[18:16] <OerHeks> *2 Tb
[18:16] <HypnotiX> 1tb
[18:16] <barnex> Hello, I have a bit of raid1 trouble. Both of my drives are failing and the raid device is inactive and I don't see any other way of reactivating it other than rebuilding with force. Obviously there are no backups.
[18:16] <DX099> hello all
[18:17] <lotuspsychje> HypnotiX: dont you see install ubuntu on whole drive?
[18:17] <barnex> So I dd'd one of mirrors to the new disk, replaced the disk that was holding that mirror originally (sda)
[18:17] <barnex> and now I have sdc3 that upon examination with mdadm -E reports that it is sda3
[18:17] <HypnotiX> lotuspsychje: no
[18:17] <barnex> and I'm not sure what the consequeneces of rebuilding an array with it and empty sda3 will be
[18:17] <lotuspsychje> HypnotiX: you got other sata devices in your box?
[18:17] <FireAndIce> bekks, I've enough space on the disk.
[18:18] <FireAndIce> tried fsck in the rescue mode.
[18:18] <HypnotiX> lotuspsychje: a dvd writer
[18:18] <FireAndIce> but still the same error.
[18:18] <lotuspsychje> HypnotiX: plug the dvd out, and retry ubuntu install
[18:18] <FireAndIce> for update, check http://askubuntu.com/questions/336619/not-able-to-login-through-gui-in-ubuntu-12-04
[18:18] <lotuspsychje> HypnotiX: some mobo's dont like sata dvd conflicting hd
[18:18] <X-User> maybe asking again, but anybody know how to completely disable Ubuntu One?
[18:18] <HypnotiX> whats the command to check my partitions
[18:19] <DX099> I want to run cdrtools 3.0 from source but after compiling, when I install the deb, it doesn't seem to install cdrecord and such though it has been compiled (I found and used the binary). Does anyone use latest cdrecord from source ?
[18:19] <HypnotiX> lotuspsychje: i had ubuntu installed before on this setup just have another hdd no
[18:19] <lotuspsychje> !info cdrecord
[18:20] <lotuspsychje> HypnotiX: it doesnt make sense ubuntu install doesnt show hd, gotta be your hardware layout
[18:21] <HypnotiX> yeah i guess so
[18:21] <sazawal> I just installed Ubuntu 13.04 64-bit on my desktop and installed gnome-shell 3.6. Whenever I switch to overview mode or open any menu from the top panel, my screen freezes and I am forced to do gnome-shell --replace in Ctrl+Alt+F1 command line. Please help
[18:21] <wilee-nilee> X-User, have you looked if it has been added in statrtup applications?
[18:21] <HypnotiX> fdisk -l doesnt show me anything in the terminal
[18:21] <wilee-nilee> startup*
[18:22] <lotuspsychje> HypnotiX: what mobo brand?
[18:22] <HypnotiX> asus
[18:22] <MonkeyDust> HypnotiX  sudo fdisk -l
[18:23] <HypnotiX> maybe this hdd cant be booted from is that possible ?
[18:23] <wilee-nilee> X-User, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ShowHiddenStartupApplications
[18:23] <X-User> wilee-nilee, it is not added in startup applications, I clecked it, it is really annoying now, it added Sync option in context menu, added a icon in Panel, created a folder
[18:23] <bekks> HypnotiX: Nope.
[18:23] <X-User> wilee-nilee, *checked
[18:23] <MonkeyDust> HypnotiX  and sudo blkid
[18:23] <HypnotiX> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6022335/ my partitions right now
[18:24] <bekks> HypnotiX: Is the disk connected correctly? Does it show up in the BIOS?
[18:24] <HypnotiX> yes bekks i have created partitions on it just now
[18:25] <bekks> HypnotiX: you said you have 2TB disk. Your paste does not show one.
[18:25] <HypnotiX> i said 1tb
[18:25] <bekks> ah ok.
[18:25] <lotuspsychje> HypnotiX: so you Can see the drive now?
[18:26] <HypnotiX> well i started a smartest i might wait for it to finish before i restart :))
[18:26] <HypnotiX> 191 min <.<
[18:26] <O[_]> what UI's for ubuntu use GTK2
[18:26] <bekks> O[_]: Hopefully none anymore.
[18:26] <HypnotiX> meh ill do that later ill restart now
[18:26] <O[_]> like main/most common
[18:26] <bazhang> O[_], its gnome3 now
[18:26] <lotuspsychje> HypnotiX: you gonna clean install?
[18:27] <HypnotiX> yes lotuspsychje
[18:27] <lotuspsychje> HypnotiX: good luck!
[18:27] <HypnotiX> brb
[18:27] <O[_]> well I cant find any themes in gnome look.com for gtk3
[18:27] <bazhang> O[_], perhaps you are thinking of MINT
[18:28] <amandasue> I've got this HP device manager program that I'd like to get rid of -- I don't see it in the software center though (it's not hp-toolbox) so I'm not sure how to get rid of it.  Actually, I'm not sure how it ended up on my copmputer in the first place.
[18:28] <O[_]> well I installed ubuntu as im new
[18:28] <O[_]> but Id like a windows classic theme or windows luna
[18:28] <bazhang> O[_], check for unity / gnome-shell themes
[18:29] <O[_]> where abouts
[18:29] <O[_]> gnome-look.com?
[18:29] <bazhang> O[_], where you were looking
[18:29] <O[_]> cant see to see any on there
[18:29] <lotuspsychje> amandasue: hplip tools?
[18:29] <O[_]> I did a search in all categories
[18:30] <X-User> wilee-nilee, ok removed it from startup applications, any way to remove it from panel?
[18:30] <amandasue> lotuspsychje, nope, I guess it is hp-toolbox.  If I start it up and ps -ef | grep hp that's what pops up.  Python script it seems
[18:30] <wilee-nilee> X-User, The left panel, it is a right click.
[18:31] <Shtl> Hello while installing lm-sensors, it asks through apt-get it says "You will have to enable the component called 'universe'", how can i do this?
[18:31] <X-User> wilee-nilee, panel=top panel
[18:31] <wilee-nilee> X-User, this the fallback desktop?
[18:32] <X-User> wilee-nilee, nope
[18:32] <X-User> wilee-nilee, unity
[18:32] <wilee-nilee> X-User, logout and back in and it should be gone if unity I would think.
[18:33] <O[_]> how about if I just use gtk2
[18:33] <X-User> wilee-nilee, ok, let me try.
[18:33] <O[_]> or will nothing be compatable then
[18:33] <wilee-nilee> Shtl, ubuntu software center-edit softwrae sources
[18:33] <O[_]> I dont like unity anhow
[18:33] <thirty3percent> can anyone help me out? Trying to install playonlinux on ubu 13 and I get this error
[18:33] <thirty3percent> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[18:33] <thirty3percent>  playonlinux : Depends: wine or
[18:33] <thirty3percent>                         wine-unstable but it is not installable
[18:33] <thirty3percent> E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[18:33] <FloodBot1> thirty3percent: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:33] <bekks> O[_]: gtk2 is window framework - unity is a desktop environment.
[18:34] <wilee-nilee> thirty3percent, YOU using a PPA?
[18:34] <O[_]> so I can use gtk2 in unity?
[18:34] <thirty3percent> I dont even know. I'm a linux noob. I think so
[18:34] <thirty3percent> whats ppa
[18:34] <MonkeyDust> O[_]  here's what you do if you don't like unity: install something else, logout, switch, login
[18:34] <wilee-nilee> !ppa | thirty3percent
[18:34] <bekks> O[_]: Why do you want to use gtk2?
[18:35] <thirty3percent> yeah I am
[18:35] <O[_]> im trying to install this theme!
[18:35] <wilee-nilee> thirty3percent, You have any links that have helped you in this endeavor?
[18:35] <O[_]> but it uses gtk2
[18:35] <thirty3percent> none. I searched around in google but none of the solutions I tried worked. Im getting ready just to reinstall ubuntu, but I really dont want to do that
[18:35] <MonkeyDust> O[_]  there are plenty other themes available
[18:36] <X-User> wilee-nilee, ok it worked, thanks.
[18:36] <thirty3percent> i think it has something to do with 32 and 64 bit packages, or something. When I try to install wine I get the same message but with other dependencies
[18:37] <thirty3percent> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[18:37] <thirty3percent>  wine1.4 : Depends: wine1.4-i386 (= 1.4.1-0ubuntu5)
[18:37] <thirty3percent> thats when I do sudo wine1.4
[18:37] <bekks> O[_]: You should install a theme matching the framework your desktop environment actually uses. It is pretty pointless to install a gtk2 theme when using gnome3.
[18:37] <thirty3percent> apt get install wine1.4
[18:37] <wilee-nilee> thirty3percent, Not really needed in general, however if we can get to what you have installed we can probably get it cleaned up. Lets start with just running these commands and paste-binning all the text. sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[18:38] <MonkeyDust> thirty3percent  better ask in #winehq
[18:38] <wilee-nilee> thirty3percent, Don't hit yes to install if asked I just want the text kicked out.
[18:38] <thirty3percent> ok
[18:38] <nl287> thirty3percent: apt-get install -f
[18:39] <O[_]> ok but idk if ill like that theme
[18:39] <O[_]> theres like LOADS
[18:39] <O[_]> I want something as close to windows as possible
[18:39] <bazhang> O[_], are you on MATE?
[18:39] <O[_]> ?
[18:39] <wilee-nilee> thirty3percent, the wine channel is helpful for sure, but I'm curios on the broken package notation.
[18:39] <X-User> well now how to disable showing Hidden applications in startup applications?
[18:39] <bazhang> O[_], thats from MINT, otherwise use gtk3
[18:40] <O[_]> i know im being very specific but at least I know I can use it fine
[18:40] <O[_]> im using gtk3
[18:40] <thirty3percent> heres the paste bin http://paste.ubuntu.com/6022399/
[18:40] <wilee-nilee> X-User, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ShowHiddenStartupApplications
[18:40] <bekks> O[_]: If you like that theme - then change your desktop environment to something where you can install that theme.
[18:40] <bekks> O[_]: Otherwise, it is pointless.
[18:40] <O[_]> I dont like having just icons to represent programs
[18:40] <O[_]> bekks?
[18:41] <wilee-nilee> O[_], Just so you are aware some of those convert to a windows look are a one way street and problematic, be careful.
[18:41] <DX099> I want to run cdrtools 3.0 from source but after compiling, when I install the deb, it doesn't seem to install cdrecord and such though it has been compiled (I found and used the binary). Does anyone use latest cdrecord from source ?
[18:41] <O[_]> but dont these desktop enfivoments typically use gtk3
[18:41] <spacebarbarian> is it normal for compiz to be constantly sitting at 50+% cpu ... ?
[18:41] <O[_]> envirmnents*
[18:41] <spacebarbarian> this is on a fresh install
[18:41] <bekks> O[_]: and you cant use gtk2 themes on gtk3.
[18:42] <X-User> wilee-nilee, that link is only showing how to enable it, nothing on disabling it
[18:42] <wilee-nilee> O[_], I'm noticing your in general asking for sweeping generalizations, that is a problem.
[18:42] <O[_]> I cant find anything thats compatable with gtk3
[18:42] <wilee-nilee> X-User, Ah disabling, why?
[18:42] <thirty3percent> wilee did you get a chance to look at my paste bin? http://paste.ubuntu.com/6022399/
[18:42] <O[_]> well unless I just try loads of uis
[18:43] <X-User> wilee-nilee, as it was disabled previously
[18:43] <MonkeyDust> O[_]  find GTK 3.x in the left column http://gnome-look.org/
[18:44] <wilee-nilee> X-User, sure, not sure I believe the code has a disable portion, look close at the link it may tell you. it is not a danger to have it show.
[18:45] <ljetibo> what does it mean when whereis scipy returns scipy:
[18:45] <X-User> wilee-nilee, ok
[18:46] <wilee-nilee> thirty3percent, always use nicks, I just happened to see you posted that text. You have added the cinnamon ppa it is in the repos in 13.04. you can remove ppa's with ppapurge. You want to avoid PPA's in general, always make sure you look in the repos first or just ask here.
[18:47] <thirty3percent> wilee ok. I actually dont even care about cinnamon. I grew to like unity. Would removing the ppa and cinnamon all together possibly fix my problem?
[18:48] <jrib> ljetibo: give full input and full output in a pastebin
[18:48] <wilee-nilee> X-User, http://askubuntu.com/questions/69810/how-do-i-add-remove-the-hidden-startup-applications
[18:49] <Kalel> Greetings.
[18:50] <HypnotiX> i am back
[18:51] <ljetibo> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6022428/ here you go
[18:51] <wilee-nilee> thirty3percent, you have a failed to fetch on the cinnamon that is problematic, that is one problem, what is casuing the original we have still not confrimed a ppa there and what you have or have not done leading to it.
[18:51] <HypnotiX> still doesnt work
[18:51] <bazhang> !info cinnamon
[18:51] <jrib> ljetibo: what ubuntu version is this?
[18:51] <Kalel> I have a HP Pavilion DV6 laptop, it has 4 speakers. When i select 'analogic' rears works. When I select 'speakers' the front works.. Could I link all speaker to work together?
[18:52] <ljetibo> jrib: i.e. whereis python returns python: and a full list of addresses mentioning python. Python version is 2.6.6 (from python -V) and Ubuntu is 12.04.
[18:52] <wilee-nilee> X-User, run this command and pastebin it, it will show both repos sources.list and sources.list.d
[18:52] <HypnotiX> so the ubuntu installer still doesnt see my hdd
[18:52] <thirty3percent> wilee what about the error on the main_amd64 and main_i386 packages
[18:52] <HypnotiX> http://imagebin.org/268639
[18:52] <X-User> wilee-nilee, ok
[18:53] <wilee-nilee> X-User, sorry wrong user.
[18:53] <jrib> ljetibo: what is the output of « type python »?
[18:53] <X-User> wilee-nilee, i got that.
[18:53] <wilee-nilee> thirty3percent,  run this command and pastebin it, it will show both repos sources.list and sources.list.d
[18:53] <ljetibo> jrib: python is hashed (/usr/local/bin/python)
[18:53] <wilee-nilee> thirty3percent, grep -vr "^#" /etc/apt/sources.list{,.d/}
[18:53] <jrib> ljetibo: does this shed some light?
[18:54] <HypnotiX> wilee-nilee: can you help me m8 please im lost here
[18:54] <ljetibo> jrib: it probably would in the case I was "native" to ubuntu. But I only picked it up about 3-4 motnhs ago
[18:54] <wilee-nilee> thirty3percent, lets keep the horse in front of the cart, there is a process.
[18:54] <jrib> ljetibo: you have a copy of python you built yourself (outside the repositories) in /usr/local
[18:55] <HypnotiX> new hdd gparted created the partitions with no problems, but the ubuntu installer doesnt see my hdd
[18:55] <thirty3percent> wilee-nilee, here is the paste bin http://paste.ubuntu.com/6022432/
[18:55] <ljetibo> jrib: yes Ubuntu 12.04 doesn't support older then python2.7 whereas some of the modules I need to use don't really work well past 2.6
[18:55] <ese> Hi!, i own a lenovo z585 and manage after painfully tries install Ubuntu Precise in 32 bits, but i have a few problems, this is my lspci -v output: http://sprunge.us/SNFN  ...the problem is flash videos like youtube or vlc in .avi or .mov etc does not play, i only see one frame and one frame only in firefox, chrome or vlc and then freeze, i have to killall or pkill the process, i manege to have my wireless working, but if i try to play a sound or a mp3 file th
[18:55] <ese> en the same thing happends, , my OS is updated, can someone help me? thank you.
[18:55] <ljetibo> jrib: so it was sort of necessary to build my own
[18:55] <jrib> ljetibo: why aren't you using the python that's on ubuntu?
[18:56] <HypnotiX> sigh
[18:56] <MonkeyDust> HypnotiX  what does     sudo blkid    show?
[18:57] <jrib> ljetibo: i.e. what modules exactly?
[18:57] <ljetibo> jrib: I just "upgraded" from Ubuntu 10.4 today and I need to use "home made" libraries like sdsspy, fitsio.... and some of them don't work on python > 2.6
[18:57] <bekks> HypnotiX: Then the installer cd does not support your mobo hdd controller.
[18:57] <jrib> ljetibo: that's weird.  I believe code that ran on 2.6 should also run on 2.7, no?
[18:57] <ljetibo> jrib: when I started writing my program on win (3 or 4 months ago) I discovered they do not
[18:57] <HypnotiX> bekks: it did before
[18:58] <HypnotiX> MonkeyDust: it shows my partitions
[18:58] <ljetibo> jrib: then through various other outside contraints I was "forced" to go ubuntu, I used Virtualbox
[18:58] <bekks> HypnotiX: With the very same installer?
[18:58] <bekks> HypnotiX: Or with an older version?
[18:58] <ljetibo> jrib: old 10.4 version, and it's default is 2.6.6
[18:58] <HypnotiX> bekks: same one
[18:58] <bekks> HypnotiX: Then what did you change? :)
[18:58] <HypnotiX> bekks: the hdd
[18:58] <jrib> ljetibo: i would fix your programs.  I'm almost 100% certain that python2 versions are backwards compatible
[18:59] <jrib> ljetibo: if they're failing because of some change in a third party library, then I would suggest fixing the code.  If you want to go against my advice, then setup virtualenv and install everything in a 2.6 virtualenv
[18:59] <ljetibo> jrib: I can try it certanly. sudo apt-get python should install the 2.7 version? Also how do I remove the 2.6.6 then?
[18:59] <HypnotiX> http://imagebin.org/268640 look
[18:59] <ljetibo> certainly*
[19:00] <HypnotiX> this is the blkid http://paste.ubuntu.com/6022451/
[19:01] <jrib> ljetibo: you now have both versions.  Your system will, by default, prefer the version in /usr/local when you simply call "python".  If you want to, you can remove the version you installed.  You'll have to read python documentation for that.  Sometimes you can "make uninstall" (in the same directory where you ran "make install".  Otherwise, you have to delete the files that got installed to /usr/local
[19:01] <jrib> manually
[19:01] <wilee-nilee> thirty3percent, So you have a number of ppa, the wine which is probably the conflict with playonlinux, both wine and playonlinux are in the repos, no ppa's needed and not supported here. the cinnamon one is a no fetch. I would use ppa purge to remove both and purge wine and playonlinux remove all the configs and files of these two a try a reinstall. The ubuntu twaek app is a nice config remover in it
[19:01] <wilee-nilee> s janitor portion, and you can search home with the names to get all the files. Cinnamon may or maybe be complety removed with the ppapurge, if not it can just be removed forom the terminal if you want it gone.
[19:01] <HypnotiX> btw if i click on the plus in the installer it just crashes
[19:02] <thirty3percent> wilee-nilee, ok thank you for your help.
[19:02] <ljetibo> jrib: how come then import numpy and import scipy fails if the call python evokes python 2.7?
[19:02] <wilee-nilee> thirty3percent, I hope that makes sense, ask any questions if needed. ;)
[19:02] <ljetibo> jrib: I've included that in the pasta
[19:02] <jrib> ljetibo: calling "python" at the moment obviously does not invoke python 2.7.  It calls python2.6 which you installed to /usr/local.  Try "/usr/bin/python" and then import numpy there.
[19:03] <HypnotiX> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/debconf/+bug/349469 this is the bug report i got after the installer crashed
[19:05] <bekks> HypnotiX: So it has absolutely nothing to do with your hdd.
[19:05] <troyrock> I am looking for information on current projects available in ubuntu 12.10 that do parental control type things: limit available login times and web locations that are accessible.
[19:05] <HypnotiX> bekks: but whats the problem then
[19:05] <bekks> HypnotiX: "/var/cache/debconf/config.dat is locked by another process"
[19:05] <O[_]> ok im trying mint now
[19:05] <bekks> HypnotiX: Did you even read the bug report?
[19:05] <bekks> O[_]: Good luck.
[19:05] <HypnotiX> this is a live cd
[19:05] <HypnotiX> usb even
[19:06] <bekks> HypnotiX: and it has a browser ;)
[19:06] <O[_]> bbl
[19:06] <HypnotiX> bekks:  i tried the installer without running ubuntu
[19:06] <HypnotiX> same problem then
[19:06] <ese> Hi!, i own a lenovo z585 and manage after painfully tries install Ubuntu Precise in 32 bits, i have a few problems, this is my lspci -v: http://sprunge.us/SNFN  ...the problem videos like youtube or vlc in .avi or .mov etc doesnt play, i only see one frame only in firefox, chrome or vlc and freezes, i have to killall, pkill the process, i manage to have my wireless working, but if i try to play mp3,.ogg with same results , my OS is updated, can someone help me
[19:06] <ese> ? thank you.
[19:06] <bekks> HypnotiX: Because the installer isnt the problem.
[19:07] <ljetibo> jrib: yes that seems to work jsut fine. Thank you.
[19:07] <HypnotiX> bekks: then what is :)
[19:08] <ljetibo> jrib: will there be no clashing between two different version?
[19:08] <bekks> HypnotiX: You gave us the URL explaining whats the problem.
[19:08] <chamunks> Hey Something seems to have deleted /proc/net/tcp
[19:08] <jrib> ljetibo: it should be ok, but I would advise letting "python" point to the default version and having only "python2.6" point to 2.6
[19:08] <chamunks> how do get that back.
[19:09] <ljetibo> jrib: is that something that's done in .bashrc?
[19:09] <jrib> ljetibo: ideally though, you would just fix your code so that it works on 2.7.  This is almost certainly do to some change in a third party library you use
[19:09] <jrib> ljetibo: does "python2.6" currently work?
[19:09] <jrib> s/do/due
[19:10] <OEP> I can't seem to login to tty[1-6] (no login prompt), is there some fix for this?
[19:10] <ljetibo> yes, but the default for python is python2.6, only by using python2.7 I get python2.7
[19:10] <jrib> ljetibo: just delete /usr/local/bin/python then
[19:11] <HypnotiX> bekks: this makes no sense how can the installer and the hardware not be the problems ?
[19:11] <HypnotiX> one or the other is the problem
[19:11] <bekks> HypnotiX: Read the link you gave us.
[19:11] <HypnotiX> i am
[19:11] <ljetibo> jrib: just manually brutal delete? no need to make sure all dependencies are hooked off or whatever...
[19:11] <jrib> ljetibo: correct
[19:12] <HypnotiX> if i just boot the live cd hit install and it doesnt work then ......
[19:12] <bekks> HypnotiX: a lock for the package management software is the problem. And the installer is just using this software.
[19:12] <ljetibo> jrib: sometimes ubuntu has it right :D
[19:12] <ese> sorry WRONG PASTE, THIS IS THE ONE, Hi!, i own a lenovo z585 and manage after painfully tries install Ubuntu Precise in 32 bits, i have a few problems, this is my lspci -v: http://sprunge.us/JEWJ  ...the problem videos like youtube or vlc in .avi or .mov etc doesnt play, i only see one frame only in firefox, chrome or vlc and freezes, i have to killall, pkill the process, i manage to have my wireless working, but if i try to play mp3,.ogg with same results , m
[19:12] <ese> y OS is updated, can someone help me? thank you.
[19:12] <FloodBot1> ese: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:12] <jrib> ljetibo: apt should never touch /usr/local/ ; that's your domain to handle
[19:12] <ese> hmm
[19:12] <HypnotiX> bekks:  i tried the commands listed there and nothing
[19:12] <wilee-nilee> ese, did you install the ubuntu-restricted-extras
[19:12] <ese> yes
[19:12] <wilee-nilee> use nicks ese
[19:13] <HypnotiX> now i cant even run the installer
[19:13] <bekks> HypnotiX: You can still install ubuntu using another cd, and manually create a chroot, etc.
[19:13] <HypnotiX> im not skilled enough to do that :)
[19:14] <ese> wilee-nilee,  ubuntu-restricted-extras is already the newest version
[19:14] <ljetibo> jrib: are you sure I need to delete usr/local/bin/python? Also all the outher libraries are installed in usr/local/lib/pythonX.X/dist-packages
[19:14] <cstewart> HypnotiX maybe try the alternate version but i believe that stopped on 12.04 LTS
[19:14] <ljetibo> jrib: what do you mean apt should never go in usr/local?
[19:14] <jrib> ljetibo: you can ignore the apt command
[19:14] <jrib> ljetibo: you can ignore the apt comment
[19:14] <wilee-nilee> ese, .avi and.mov are containers for types of media some do not play.
[19:15] <HypnotiX> cstewart: i installed 13.04 or 3 different systems so far including this one with no problems using that installer, i just changed the hdd on this one and i cant install on it
[19:15] <wilee-nilee> like quicktime...etc
[19:15] <jrib> ljetibo: yes, I am sure that you can just delete /usr/local/bin/python to make "python" call /usr/bin/python (2.7) instead of /usr/local/bin/python (2.6) as it does now
[19:15] <ese> wilee-nilee,  but  .mp3 or any sound file does not play either
[19:15] <wilee-nilee> ese, Downloads?
[19:16] <cstewart> Hypnotix can you boot the live cd and see the new hdd
[19:16] <ese> wilee-nilee,  no, in my firefox or in my usb thumbdrive (i got some files there)
[19:16] <HypnotiX> no i cant see it
[19:17] <HypnotiX> gparted see it after i try ubuntu but not from the installer
[19:17] <M1cha> Hi is it possible to change the screen resolution if a application goes to fullscreen? If not globally maybe just for VLC player via some plugin/scripting API ?
[19:17] <wilee-nilee> ese, Did you install any media codecs to files rather than just apt-getting them and using them, or flash this way, and tar downloads of these?
[19:17] <HypnotiX> cstewart: http://imagebin.org/268640
[19:17] <cstewart> Hypnotix very interesting is this a ssd
[19:17] <HypnotiX> nop
[19:18] <X-User> hello, i ran this command "/bin/sh -c '[ -d "$HOME/Ubuntu One" ] && ubuntuone-launch'" what will this do?
[19:18] <l01> X-User: if your home contains a directory "Ubuntu One", it runs the command ubuntuone-launch
[19:19] <bekks> X-User: It starts ubuntuone.
[19:20] <X-User> well, my home do not contain any Ubuntu One folder (i deleted it) and also do not run Ubuntu One.
[19:20] <ese> wilee-nilee,  no i haven done that, i tried ubuntu 64 but it just can not boot from any .iso, i tried debian 7.0 no boot, ...i manage to install this ubuntu precise 12.04 32 here and after lots of fighting i got the wireless working, this is a lenovo z585 laptop and i google a lot but there is lots of problems in installing this lap i read, soo far i got it in my hard drive but with no sound or video playback.
[19:20] <bekks> HypnotiX: You should close gparted entirely before running the installer.
[19:20] <HypnotiX> i did
[19:20] <HypnotiX> brb ill restart and try one more time and ill remove the dvd writer
[19:20] <bekks> HypnotiX: Your paste shows something different then ;)
[19:20] <bekks> HypnotiX: Why?
[19:20] <Slart> M1cha: I haven't seen anything that does this but have a look at devilspie, it's an app that works with windows, sizes and such.. perhaps you can make it check if a window is maximized and then run some terminal command to change resolution
[19:20] <wilee-nilee> ese, NO sound at all anywhere?
[19:20] <bekks> HypnotiX: The dvd writer is no problem.
[19:21] <HypnotiX> i removed the partitions
[19:21] <HypnotiX> see if that helps i donno
[19:21] <bekks> HypnotiX: stop guessing.
[19:21] <HypnotiX> well thats all i can do right now :)
[19:21] <Slart> M1cha: It might be easier to just make a shortcut to vlc that both changes resolution and starts vlc though.. if it's just for that one application
[19:21] <ese> wilee-nilee, yes no sound at all, and in video i only get 2 settings, am fine with that dho
[19:21] <bekks> HypnotiX: You paste a) does show that you did not remove anything and b) that you are running gparted and the installer in parallel.
[19:21] <HypnotiX> no pc for 2 days just trying to get it working has left me guessing
[19:21] <HypnotiX> thats an old paste
[19:22] <bekks> HypnotiX: Then why do you show it to us?
[19:22] <HypnotiX> i showed it for cstewart
[19:22] <wilee-nilee> ese, Cool we see that on occasion, not an area I can really help in that is the first issue I would be mentioning.
[19:22] <HypnotiX> to understand the problem
[19:23] <M1cha> Slart: Thx for the tip I'll take a look at devilspie or maybe compiz would work, too. The shortcut option wouldn't be good in case I want  to use VLC just to hear some music
[19:23] <HypnotiX> i cant even open the installer now thats why i want to reboot
[19:23] <cstewart> thats very interesting, i'm not sure what else to suggest let me ponder it for minute
[19:23] <ese> wilee-nilee,  i think is the drivers
[19:23] <wilee-nilee> keep it simple to some extent and start at the beginning basically ese
[19:23] <ese> wilee-nilee,  yeah, i like to have sound ...first xD
[19:24] <HypnotiX> so it goes like this i reboot run the installer from the live cd and i see that screen without my hdd or the partitions in the installer
[19:24] <Slart> M1cha: so, use the regular shortcut for vlc for when you just want the regular vlc and the modified shortcut for the "change res and then run vlc" script
[19:24] <cstewart> other then nuke the partition table and create a new one
[19:27] <cstewart> hypnotix it should reconize the partition table but maybe if you wipe it then try and install that will correct the issue. sometimes extended lvm have issue at least i have ran into that when trying to install on an existing HD or maybe barts boot and nuke
[19:28] <HypnotiX> ok i removed all the partitions with gparted
[19:28] <HypnotiX> ill reboot and try again
[19:29] <Falcon82> how do i defrag?
[19:31] <stomanata> Hi, can somebody help me fixind nvidia driver problems
[19:31] <stomanata> here is 1 simple pic that show some of problems http://i43.tinypic.com/316nogg.png
[19:31] <hid> Falcon82: no need to defrag linux fs
[19:31] <growna>  hello, i am trying to understand the "Take ownership of filesystem" option in gparted before formatting/partitioning a drive, but I failed googling. Can someone explain to me if I need this or not, or what it does? Please...
[19:32] <stomanata> other problem is when i scrolling in facebook all aroud browser go out :(
[19:32] <cstewart> Hypnotix windows wasn't previously installed on the hd was it
[19:32] <RileyGuy> Can someone help me? im having problems with a java game yet i have java installed
[19:32] <RileyGuy> think anyone could help? :)
[19:33] <Muelli> !anyone || RileyGuy
[19:33] <RileyGuy> ok
[19:33] <cstewart> RileyGuy apt-get install openjdk-7-jdk
[19:33] <holstein> !java
[19:34] <RileyGuy> I am having trouble with minecraft not working, it starts up to the title but then freezes when i load a world, ubuntu 13.04
[19:34] <sealbhach> RileyGuy: dude we're not psychic, say what problem is
[19:34] <RileyGuy> java 7 installed and everything
[19:34] <holstein> RileyGuy: you might want to ask minecraft for support there.. i would try soemthing to test java.. you are assuming its a java/ubuntu issue.. could be that another version of minecraft would work fine, or that they are not supporting 13.04
[19:35] <RileyGuy> ive seen other people play it on 13.04
[19:35] <Slart> RileyGuy: is it the same with all worlds or just the one?
[19:35] <holstein> RileyGuy: i have ran it on 13.04, but that doesnt help you right now
[19:35] <RileyGuy> might be a lwjgl issue
[19:35] <cstewart> games are outside set of tools
[19:35] <bekks> RileyGuy: You dont need Java 7 for running it.
[19:35] <RileyGuy> all
[19:36] <RileyGuy> java 6?
[19:36] <Muelli> RileyGuy: how do you it freezes?
[19:36] <bekks> RileyGuy: Java 6.
[19:37] <RileyGuy> ok
[19:37] <Slart> RileyGuy: no errors or such if you start minecraft from a terminal?
[19:37] <RileyGuy> it starts up fine and dandy sounds and everything but when i load a world it freezes to a dirt backround
[19:37] <RileyGuy> no errors in the console or anything
[19:37] <sealbhach> Is your graphics card able to run it?
[19:38] <bekks> RileyGuy: Try using Java 6 and check your graphics drivers.
[19:38] <RileyGuy> ok
[19:38] <RileyGuy> my ubuntu already supports the one i have
[19:39] <bekks> RileyGuy: That doesnt matter when the game does not support them.
[19:39] <RileyGuy> ._.
[19:39] <RileyGuy> idk
[19:39] <RileyGuy> ive never really had luck with java 7
[19:39] <bekks> RileyGuy: Then try using Java 6 now.
[19:39] <RileyGuy> so maybe 6 will help like said
[19:40] <RileyGuy> mk
[19:40] <RileyGuy> installing it now
[19:40] <RileyGuy> one more problem tho
[19:40] <RileyGuy> my ubuntu hates it when i install things directly from the software center
[19:40] <RileyGuy> so i gotta use terminal
[19:41] <bekks> RileyGuy: Then use the terminal.
[19:41] <XLV> i got an somewhat older system used as a server.. athlon x2 3800, on an asus a8n sli nf4 mb, using a pci sis6326 8MB vga.. i cant get any latest live usb to run.. i have tried ubuntu and debian live .. it stops with a message about out of sync mode used on the monitor.. i have tried to insert the nomodeset option, there isnt the option available in live usb booting, as per the docs.. i am downloading 12.04 lts now
[19:41] <RileyGuy> ok
[19:41] <ljetibo> jrib: thanks again, everything seems to be in order, much obiged
[19:41] <ljetibo> obliged*
[19:41] <holstein> RileyGuy: you might "hate" i, but i assure you, your ubuntu has not preference
[19:41] <bekks> XLV: Throw that SIS graphics crap away.
[19:41] <RileyGuy> i know xD
[19:41] <holstein> yeah.. i have sis, and i just bypassed it.. never could get it working
[19:41] <XLV> bekks, for a server, its more than sufficient..
[19:42] <bekks> XLV: It causes your current problems.
[19:42] <XLV> bekks, also.. that attitude is more apporopriate for windows lusers channels
[19:42] <holstein> XLV: there is no "live" ubuntu server
[19:42] <bekks> XLV: You never dealt with SIS hardware on Linux then.
[19:42] <sazawal> Where do I get a graphics driver for, Intel Corporation Xeon E3-1200 v2/3rd Gen Core processor Graphics Controller
[19:42] <XLV> holstein, ... i am trying to load a live usb to troubleshoot a grub problem after a failing hdd
[19:42] <holstein> sazawal: shouldnt need one
[19:42] <RileyGuy> nope still freezing
[19:42] <holstein> XLV: good luck.. i would avoid it
[19:42] <sealbhach> XLV: Try nosplash option
[19:43] <bekks> sazawal: sudo apt-get install xf86-video-intel
[19:43] <holstein> XLV: you can try "nomodeset" and forcing vesa..
[19:43] <XLV> bekks, i have been running that system with that sis card for years ( in older systems too ).. you really dont know wtf you are talking about.. pls reply only if you have some valid contribution
[19:44] <XLV> holstein, sealbhach the nosplash and the nomodeset were added in the boot kernel parameters
[19:44] <XLV> same thing
[19:44] <bekks> XLV: Watch your language. And I cant help you if you dont like the answers - it was you who asked.
[19:44] <RileyGuy> can i paste my log?
[19:44] <sazawal> bekks, unable to locate package :(
[19:45] <XLV> bekks, my language is fine.. its the content you dont like.. i have no problem with your answers, just stating its irrelevant and unhelpful, and i ask you to stop trying to "help" me, you seem to not having the experties and you pollute the troubleshooting discussion
[19:45] <holstein> XLV: it many not work.. didnt work for me
[19:45] <bekks> sazawal: Most likely, it is installed already, although it has another name.
[19:45] <bekks> XLV: ignore set.
[19:45] <XLV> bekks, great.. thank you
[19:45] <holstein> XLV: i have never had any luck with sis graphics..
[19:46] <sazawal> bekks, let me find it on google.
[19:46] <sealbhach> XLV: If you just want to fix grub, install a no desktop edition, server edition or whatever or get a boot recovery type distro
[19:46] <XLV> holstein, i really have been using this card for years now.. using it so the pcie ports can be used for storage and/or nic
[19:46] <holstein> XLV: these are ubuntu based, and run "live".. http://www.turnkeylinux.org/ might help
[19:46] <XLV> sealbhach, yeah, i'll try 12.04 lts and alternative version
[19:47] <holstein> XLV: im not debating a server cant utilize the hardware.. im saying, if you are having issues running x on there, so was i
[19:47] <bazhang> !alternate | XLV
[19:47] <sazawal> bekks, yes it is installed. Though I have a problem with the gnome-shell 3.6. I thought may be it is due to the driver. Anyways thanks
[19:48] <gibbs> Do source packages (from apt-get source) upgrade?
[19:48] <Slart> gibbs: afaik they do
[19:48] <bekks> gibbs: No, they dont.
[19:48] <Slart> gibbs: I must admit I haven't really checked if they do but it would be pretty odd if they didn't
[19:48] <XLV> bazhang, i have no problem using an older live cd with alternative offered.. i just want to get to a shell with all commands available to chroot and fix grub
[19:49] <bekks> gibbs: They are "installed" in the current directory, and the package management system does not track them.
[19:49] <holstein> XLV: the alternate's were not live
[19:49] <XLV> holstein, the server ran xorg fine before the hdd and grub bork
[19:49] <gibbs> bekks: how would I upgrade (then recompile)?
[19:50] <bekks> gibbs: run apt-get source again, and recompile.
[19:50] <Slart> gibbs: "upgrade" as in that there will new versions of the source packages when there is a new version of the package.. they won't upgrade the source you have downloaded.. you'll have to remove the source and download again
[19:50] <XLV> holstein, ok.. does anyone remember what was first ubuntu that offered grub2 by default?
[19:50] <holstein> XLV: alternate cd's dont boot live..
[19:50] <holstein> XLV: the turnkey linux appliances do.. though they are not officially supported here
[19:50] <gibbs> thanks. Is there a way to check what the latest source version is?
[19:50] <RichardHolland> i need to use the commando dhclient eth0 to set the static address. But what if i wanna make it persistent? So that with a reboot i still have a working static IP adres on interface eth0?
[19:51] <bekks> gibbs: apt-cache policy packagename
[19:51] <DJones> XLV: I think grub 2 became default from 9.10
[19:51] <XLV> DJones, thanks
[19:51] <Slart> RichardHolland: /etc/interfaces
[19:51] <bekks> RichardHolland: DHCP does not set static addresses.
[19:51] <RichardHolland> Slart, that is configured correctly
[19:51] <gibbs> excellent. thanks bekks and Slart
[19:51] <nl287> Slart: /etc/network/interfaces
[19:52] <RichardHolland> bekks, i know, that is done in /etc/network/interfaces
[19:52] <Slart> RichardHolland: I mean, you'll have to edit that file yourself with the information you want.. I don't think dhclient will do it for you
[19:52] <bekks> RichardHolland: dhclient does not change /etc/network/interfaces, you have to do it yourself.
[19:52] <nl287> RichardHolland: but i think if u edit interfaces u need diable network menager in gnome
[19:52] <RichardHolland> Slart, the static address only worked after using the command dhclient eth0
[19:52] <bekks> RichardHolland: And with doing so, you dont need dhclient anymore to get an ip address.
[19:52] <sazawal> SNA 2D Graphics Acceleration is causing troubles in gnome-shell 3.6. Please help!
[19:52] <growna> have a nice week everybody
[19:53] <M1cha> Ok I finally added a hotkey with compiz config manager to switch between my scaled and native resolution
[19:53] <bekks> RichardHolland: dhclient sets a dynamic address, no static one.
[19:53] <RichardHolland> nl287, how do i disable the network manager?
[19:53] <Slart> RichardHolland, nl287: as nl287 mentioned.. it's in /etc/network/interfaces , my bad
[19:53] <RichardHolland> bekks, i know.. .but it was the solution
[19:53] <bekks> RichardHolland: It cant be the solution, since those two things are contrary.
[19:53] <nl287> RichardHolland: maybe there is option disable in menu
[19:53] <Slart> RichardHolland: hmm.. might be something else that dhclient does ... or it might be a server setting if you have a paranoid dhcp-server/firewall
[19:54] <bekks> RichardHolland: You can set a static IP in the network manager as well.
[19:54] <RichardHolland> bekks, i know... it was strange but true
[19:54] <subcool> what happen between 12.04 and 13? - i copied my fstab to mount my network shares, and now im getting erros
[19:54] <bekks> subcool: which errors?
[19:54] <RichardHolland> bekks, it confusing that you can set the ip address in so many places in ubuntu.
[19:54] <O[_]> downloading linux -- SLOW SLOW SLOW
[19:54] <subcool> bekks wrong fs type
[19:54] <RichardHolland> bekks, and the don't seem to work together.
[19:55] <bekks> RichardHolland: thats just depending on what you want to achieve using which approach.
[19:55] <bekks> subcool: then you are using an fstype thats not installed/supported
[19:55] <RichardHolland> bekks, the old way, not gui. So I can manage, and not the machine
[19:55] <subcool> bekks mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on 192.168.2.6:/mnt/VirtualMachines,
[19:55] <nl287> network menager working very well bu excludes with editing interfaces
[19:55] <bekks> subcool: Whats the fstab line?
[19:56] <bekks> RichardHolland: network manager works flawlessly here.
[19:56] <RichardHolland> nl287, the network manager is through the desktop?
[19:56] <subcool> bekks 192.168.2.6:/mnt/Media                  /mnt/Media              nfs             auto    0       0
[19:56] <bekks> RichardHolland: there is a cli tool: nm-cli
[19:56] <nl287> RichardHolland: yes, this is service i think
[19:56] <bekks> subcool: that will not work. ;)
[19:56] <subcool> bekks works on my other two macines
[19:56] <bekks> subcool: your box is trying to mount before the network is up. Add the "_netdev" option.
[19:57] <RichardHolland> bekks, nm-cli?
[19:57] <subcool> bekks im doing that command with mount -a
[19:57] <bekks> RichardHolland: Thats what I said, yes.
[19:57] <subcool> bekks while the box is on
[19:57] <bekks> subcool: "auto" implies: "whenever the box boots up, run it".
[19:57] <RichardHolland> bekks, how do i install it, or start it
[19:58] <subcool> bekks so change auto to _netdev?
[19:58] <bekks> subcool: And if you dont have the nfs utilities installed, it wont work either.
[19:58] <bekks> subcool: No, "add" means: let it look like this: auto,_netdev
[19:58] <nl287> RichardHolland: i was using manual editing networking and network menager, but if i want warking /etc/network/interfaces i need to disable network menager in menu on panel
[19:58] <subcool> bekks oh ok.. thanks
[19:59] <RichardHolland> nl287, i think i uninstalled the whole network manager. I won't find it anymore in the desktop
[19:59] <nl287> RichardHolland: u dont need uninstall. disable is enough
[20:00] <RichardHolland> nl287, well it's done anyway
[20:00] <RichardHolland> bekks, how do i install it, or start. The program you suggested
[20:01] <subcool> bekks mount: unknown filesystem type '_netdev'
[20:01] <RichardHolland> nl287, Goedenavond trouwens.
[20:02] <bekks> subcool: Then your fstab entry is wrong.
[20:02] <kabamaro> Hello
[20:02] <kabamaro> can i ask something?
[20:03] <kabamaro> somebody installed something called "Sniffer" on my ubuntu server
[20:03] <kabamaro> they can access root through port 22 without me knowing
[20:03] <kabamaro> even when i access my server
[20:03] <kabamaro> root@testnode1:~# w
[20:03] <kabamaro>  20:01:24 up 9 days,  3:55,  0 users,  load average: 0.00, 0.01, 0.05
[20:03] <kabamaro> it shows 0 users
[20:03] <subcool> bekks the only thing was the Ip addy
[20:04] <bekks> RichardHolland: The package is named "network-manager"
[20:04] <bekks> subcool: What does that mean?
[20:04] <subcool> bekks my router is being a d'bag about assigning ips
[20:04] <bekks> kabamaro: How do you know that?
[20:04] <ironfoot495> Hello is there sdomeone who is familiar with restoreing SOAP and mysql back in phpinfo()?
[20:05] <subcool> it keeps chaning the IP address of my machines, so- i have a hard time keeping the ip address to the proper machine. and i cant assing ip's through the router-
[20:05] <RichardHolland> bekks, they told me the network-manager conflicts with /etc/network/interfaces
[20:05] <subcool> bekks, point bieng i adjusted the IP to the proper ip and the error still occurs
[20:05] <bekks> RichardHolland: Which is true. Either use network-manager or manage that file on your own.
[20:05] <rtr-> kabamaro so why do you think there is currently  someone on your system?
[20:05] <ironfoot495> I upgraded php to 5.5.3 and there is no trace of mysq,mysqli and SOAP
[20:05] <bekks> subcool: Then your entry is still wrong.
[20:05] <subcool> bekks, thats my point- it works on my other two machines..
[20:06] <kabamaro> rtr- because i found a directory called "Sniffer"
[20:06] <bekks> subcool: Which I doubt, strongly.
[20:06] <subcool> bekks im coping it from two working computers
[20:06] <kabamaro> in my server
[20:06] <bekks> subcool: Then it cant be working, since it is wrong, simply.
[20:06] <nl287> there maybe another one service conflicting mDNS
[20:06] <rtr-> kabamaro, where did you find this folder?
[20:07] <kabamaro> rtr- in /root
[20:07] <RichardHolland> bekks, i just wanna use the file /etc/network/interfaces. Only after rebooten i don't get a static IP address on eth0 to work. I need the command dhclient eth0 to start the interface eth0
[20:08] <rtr-> kabamaro, and its simply that? /root/Sniffer ? nothing hidden? not even /root/.Sniffer ? whats in it?
[20:08] <kabamaro> there are over 500 files in it
[20:08] <kabamaro> such as
[20:08] <kabamaro> mpaux.h            ssh-keygen
[20:08] <kabamaro> Makefile.in        config.h.in       mpaux.o            ssh-keygen.0
[20:08] <FloodBot1> kabamaro: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:08] <bekks> RichardHolland: you never get a static address, you have to assign it yourself.
[20:08] <DJones> kabamaro: If your server has been compromised, first thing to do would be disconnect it from the internet and then reinstall, you could never be sure that removing the things you don't recognise actually catches everything
[20:08] <nl287> RichardHolland: u need only proper edit interfaces
[20:09] <kabamaro> DJones i do not have physical access to it, only remote access
[20:09] <cstewart> Kabamaro that is present usually when you install wireshark on your system it creates root/sniffer
[20:10] <kabamaro> cstewart yes but i did not install wireshark
[20:10] <syn-ack> Anything with a pcap, for that matter
[20:10] <kabamaro> and i also found some brute-force scanners, something called go.sh, it scans servers for port 22 and brute-forces root password
[20:11] <syn-ack> yeah
[20:11] <syn-ack> destroy and rebuild. You're screwed
[20:11] <cstewart> if its a remote server you might want to install psacct to determine user activity
[20:11] <cstewart> yea reload
[20:12] <kabamaro> its my fault
[20:12] <cstewart> then look up ubuntu hardened server in google
[20:12] <dswhite85> I've got a minor issue with my sound. It randomly crackles from speakers/headphones and the sound crackles/pops noise whenever I adjust the volume up or down with no music playing. Any thoughts?
[20:12] <kabamaro> my root password was 1234
[20:12] <kabamaro> i guess thats how they got in
[20:12] <bekks> ouch
[20:12] <lhx> kabamaro: tsk tsk tsk
[20:12] <rtr-> watch your authorized_keys becuause i see ssh-keygen.0
[20:12] <syn-ack> You're kidding me, right?
[20:12] <syn-ack> 1234?
[20:12] <lhx> kabamaro: needs to be at least 8-10 characters, case sensitive and with a number and a special character
[20:12] <kabamaro> yeah, 1234.
[20:12] <DJones> kabamaro: And this is why ubuntu doesn't recommend setting any root passwords
[20:12] <cstewart> lol
[20:12] <lhx> kabamaro: you deerved to be rooted...
[20:13] <subcool> bekks yeah- it works
[20:13] <syn-ack> I was just going to say the samething
[20:13] <rtr-> how long did you have this password?
[20:13] <kabamaro> rtr about 2 months
[20:13] <lhx> kabamaro: also, you should change your SSH port to something non standard...
[20:13] <RichardHolland> bekks, i posted the whole problem on ubuntuforum with thread number 2169928. Maybe if you have time to react on that i would preciate that. Or somebody else for that matter.
[20:13] <kabamaro> lhx i tried that, i changed it... but even when i change it, port 22 still works
[20:13] <lhx> ummm....
[20:14] <lhx> i mean, before you were rooted
[20:14] <kabamaro> oh
[20:14] <kabamaro> lol
[20:14] <dswhite85> anyone have any ideas if maybe its a software or hardware issue or something in the terminal i could use to fix it?
[20:14] <lhx> you might as well reinstall from scractch dude
[20:14] <subcool> bekks, i just realized i didnt have the softare installed that supports nfs yet
[20:14] <kabamaro> im thinking of changing my internet provider anyway
[20:14] <lhx> you never know what stuff the cracker put on your box... only way to know for sure is to wipe it and start over
[20:14] <lhx> kabamaro: isp has nothing to do with it...
[20:15] <x-yuri> hi, I'm having hard time trying to make rt3090 (wifi) work on ubuntu raring. Does anyone know how to make it work?
[20:15] <kabamaro> lhx yeah i know, but im changing for a better location
[20:15] <cstewart> yea and install ufw and limit who can access the ssh port at minimum
[20:15] <kabamaro> lhx do you know anything about google compute server hosting?
[20:15] <lhx> kabamaro: yup... keeps them from brute forcing you
[20:15] <lhx> kabamaro: I like linode
[20:16] <kabamaro> i just purchased a server from google, it looks good since its hosted by google
[20:16] <holstein> hosting wont help you with security..
[20:16] <reisio> kabamaro: specs?
[20:16] <bekks> kabamaro: why do you need a hosted server?
[20:17] <kabamaro> i run multiple websites
[20:17] <pvtmert> hey ppl
[20:17] <lhx> https://library.linode.com/security
[20:17] <kabamaro> i dont usually use 1234 as a password, it was just a one time thing and they brute forced me
[20:18] <bekks> kabamaro: Which took just a few seconds, with that password. Just dont set a root password at all.
[20:18] <reisio> pvl1: hiyo
[20:18] <kabamaro> reisio 8x intel xeon 2.6ghz - 30gb ram
[20:18] <reisio> well, 1234 isn't so much brute force as instant access :)
[20:19] <reisio> kabamaro: that thing turbo charged? :p
[20:19] <basichash> How do I change nano tab spaces from to 4?
[20:19] <kabamaro> reisio if u want i can give u access to check it out
[20:19] <cstewart> server hardening - www.thefanclub.co.za/how-to/how-secure-ubuntu-1204-lts-server-part-1-basics
[20:19] <kabamaro> user access
[20:19] <kabamaro> since its new and empty
[20:19] <bekks> kabamaro: Do you have any URL about that google hosting?
[20:20] <bekks> kabamaro: If you give access away like that - do you really wonder about being brute forced?
[20:20] <reisio> kabamaro: sure
[20:20] <kabamaro> bekks: https://cloud.google.com/products/compute-engine
[20:20] <bekks> kabamaro: Never, literally never ever, give anyone access to your server. Never.
[20:21] <kabamaro> bekks im re-installing it tomorrow
[20:21] <kabamaro> its just for testing
[20:21] <bekks> kabamaro: Thats a cloud stuff only. :)
[20:21] <basichash> How do I change nano tab spaces from to 4?
[20:22] <kabamaro> bekks yeah but its amazing for web hosting and stuff
[20:22] <bekks> kabamaro: You dont have a "managed server" - you just have "a part of some cloud".
[20:22] <kabamaro> yeah i know
[20:22] <bekks> kabamaro: You said you have a managed server now.
[20:22] <kabamaro> its like a VPS i guess
[20:22] <Extreminador> guys what is the "x-session-manager" for ?
[20:22] <kabamaro> bekks not the google one, the other one that was brute-forced
[20:23] <Extreminador> two hours ago i did use it and the entire desktop have disappear leaving only the background and the desktop icons
[20:24] <bekks> kabamaro: And they are incredibly expensive. Running it 24h/7days will cost you 142$ a week - at least.
[20:24] <slimjimflim> hi, whenever i use sftp and try to upload a file to the remote server i hangs and says -stalled-.  i have a temporary fix of doing: `sudo ifconfig eth0 mtu 1490` but i'd like to find a permanent fix.  can anyone help?
[20:25] <hogilber> hola
[20:26] <Ampelbein> slimjimflim: http://askubuntu.com/questions/230926/how-do-i-change-the-mtu-value-on-ubuntu
[20:26] <reisio> shalom
[20:28] <slimjimflim> Ampelbein: thanks.  could this be an issue with my isp though?  i've been having problems getting flashplayer working consistently too.
[20:30] <Ampelbein> slimjimflim: I can't say. I neither know your ISP nor your method of connecting nor your home network layout.
[20:30] <c31r2g> hello
[20:30] <c31r2g> HisaoNakai: hello
[20:31] <slimjimflim> Ampelbein: no problem, now that i think of it, changing the mtu fixes flash too.
[20:31] <HisaoNakai> !ask | c31r2g
[20:31] <HisaoNakai> :)
[20:32] <dinu> ;)
[20:34] <dinu> why ‎is it so quiet
[20:34] <cgtdk> dinu: because off toptic chatter isn't allowed
[20:34] <dinu> ok
[20:34] <cgtdk> *topic
[20:37] <lhx> kabamaro: go get the cheapest linode $20 a month, full vps... lots of storage and bandwidth... best customer service
[20:38] <kabamaro> lhx i will check it out
[20:38] <ubuntuissues> Hello, I have been the one having issues trying to restore my file system on my server, I ran an fsck and it said it completed with  issues. However, it says that it has created a a lost+found directory, unfortunately, I still am unable to mount it as the ubuntu live cd I am running states this:
[20:38] <ubuntuissues> Error mounting /dev/sda1 at /media/ubuntu/root: Command-line `mount -t "ext4" -o "uhelper=udisks2,nodev,nosuid" "/dev/sda1" "/media/ubuntu/root"' exited with non-zero exit status 32: mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda1,
[20:39] <Megonfle_167> !patience
[20:39] <Jordan_U> ubuntuissues: Is the harware good? Have you checked the S.M.A.R.T. status of the drive? Do you have backups of the important data?
[20:41] <te5ita> linux
[20:41] <ubuntuissues> Jordan_U, I don't have backups of the drive, it was the / partition. The SMART status is fine, and the hardware is good (it was in RAID 1).
[20:41] <ubuntuissues> If I attempt to do dumpe2fs it gives me a buch of information, but none that looks to be usable.
[20:41] <bekks> ubuntuissues: Why dont you try mounting it like: sudo mkdir /mnt/test; sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/test
[20:42] <ubuntuissues> bekks,  I have tried that, and it reacts the same way... "mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda1,"
[20:42] <SkeeterB> what device is usually the CD/DVD drive in linux? I have it set up as the secondary master on my IDE Bus
[20:43] <Jordan_U> ubuntuissues: You said that it was in RAID1, is this a hardware RAID controller?
[20:43] <ubuntuissues> Jordan_U, it was, but it is logical damage to the disk. Considering I already did an fdisk, it should have already mirrored the data.
[20:43] <ubuntuissues> dmesg states this: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6022764/
[20:43] <bekks> ubuntuissues: Then look at dmesg. And pastebin: sudo blkid please
[20:45] <Jordan_U> ubuntuissues: What do you mean by "it was"? Is the device /dev/sda currently representing a hardware RAID1 of two different drives? (Note that true hardware RAID controllers are very expensive, and almost never come with Desktop motherboards).
[20:46] <ubuntuissues> Jordan_U,  Sorry, it should have been It is. The Hardware RAID controller is a PERC 5i. bekks, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6022777/
[20:46] <ubuntuissues> I removed some of the UUID's
[20:46] <ubuntuissues> However, the one I am trying to mount is labeled root
[20:47] <bekks> ubuntuissues: BAckup the disk, and run sudo fsck -f
[20:48] <ubuntuissues> bekks, I aready ran sudo fsck by it self on that drive.
[20:48] <bekks> ubuntuissues: fsck is not the same as fsck -f
[20:48] <ubuntuissues> Is it similar to fsck -y or -a
[20:49] <bekks> ubuntuissues: No.
[20:49] <ubuntuissues> bekks, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6022785/
[20:53] <Jordan_U> ubuntuissues: Did that complete with an exit status of 0?
[20:54] <ubuntuissues> It ended with the last line in the pastebin, and then dropped me to the ability to run another comand. So yes.
[20:54] <Jordan_U> ubuntuissues: (To check, run "echo $?" *immediately* after running the command, or run "sudo fsck -f /dev/sda1; echo $0" if it's too late for that.
[20:54] <ubuntuissues> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6022795/
[20:55] <Jordan_U> ubuntuissues: Sorry, typo. Should have been "$?", not "$0".
[20:56] <ubuntuissues> After displaying the last line (root.......) it has an exit status of 0, yes.
[20:58] <webx> I'm having a whale of a time trying to figure out which init script is hanging my machine.  ubuntu 13.04, and just after init-bottom finishes, it hangs
[20:59] <webx> I can't paste the dmesg output since the machine hangs, so I just took a picture.  the console looks like this: http://bit.ly/18RTxu8
[20:59] <SkeeterB> i have 12.04 LTS myself
[20:59] <webx> I'm wondering how I can figure out the script(s) that are running after init-bottom
[21:00] <Jordan_U> ubuntuissues: Try "sudo grub-mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/".
[21:00] <ubuntuissues> It returned to a new line with no error.
[21:00] <Jordan_U> ubuntuissues: "ls /mnt/" and see if you can see your files.
[21:01] <ubuntuissues> All it is is a lost and found folder now.
[21:01] <ubuntuissues> And it is taking a while to display the contents of it.
[21:01] <Jordan_U> ubuntuissues: Slowness is expected with grub-mount, it's not really intended for normal use.
[21:02] <ubuntuissues> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6022819/ So that is expected?
[21:03] <SkeeterB> have you tried booting using a live CD/DVD and mounting?
[21:03] <ubuntuissues> SkeeterB, I am in a livd disc right now.
[21:03] <bekks> SkeeterB: he is on a cd ;)
[21:03] <SkeeterB> oh
[21:04] <Jordan_U> ubuntuissues: It's not terribly surprising that it might take a long time to complete, but the fact that it only shows lost+found is not comforting.
[21:04] <bekks> ubuntuissues: could you pastebing the entire output of dmesg?
[21:04] <SkeeterB> ok I am on an installed version though
[21:04] <ubuntuissues> Yeah, I know. But, if it even has just the folders I need in lost+found, then I can rebuild the system with the /etc, /var, or /usr folders.
[21:04] <ubuntuissues> Just for my own sanity, can you define 'slowness', should I be waiting hours, or is it just a couple minutes?
[21:04] <ubuntuissues> bekks, hold on
[21:05] <hogilber> exit
[21:05] <Jordan_U> ubuntuissues: After 10 minutes you can probably give up on it ever finishing.
[21:05] <ubuntuissues> bekks, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6022826/
[21:06] <ubuntuissues> So if that fails, is there any other option I have to mount to even see if the files that are located are in there?
[21:06] <Jordan_U> ubuntuissues: And if it does finish after 10 mintues, I would expect it to be because all of your files were placed in the top level of lost+found leading to hundreds of thousands of files to be listed.
[21:06] <ubuntuissues> Jordan_U, shouldn't the second 0 indicate how many files there actually are?
[21:06] <ubuntuissues> Or directories
[21:07] <ubuntuissues> So: dr-xr-xr-x 0 root root 0 Aug 24 15:05 lost+found That number after the owner would indicate if anything was recovered?
[21:07] <Jordan_U> ubuntuissues: grub-mount is not intended for regular use, and does not necessarily represent normal POSIX semantics.
[21:08] <bekks> ubuntuissues: Just look into that folder.
[21:09] <ubuntuissues> bekks, I can't cd or ls into it without it taking some time.
[21:09] <bekks> ubuntuissues: Then you have wait :)
[21:14] <ese> i need help with the sound, here is my lspci -v  thank you http://sprunge.us/JEWJ
[21:15] <bekks> ese: "JEWJ0824 not found"
[21:15] <ubuntuissues> Yeah, neither are doing anything right now.
[21:16] <ese> bekks,  how can i fix that?
[21:16] <Jordan_U> ubuntuissues: Try #linuxfs or  #ext4 on irc.oftc.net.
[21:16] <bekks> ese: By giving us the correct URL.
[21:16] <ubuntuissues> Jordan_U, Alright, thanks.
[21:16] <ubuntuissues> You too bekks thanks
[21:16] <ese> bekks,  http://sprunge.us/JEWJ
[21:17] <ese> with out 09824
[21:17] <ese> *0924
[21:18] <Jordan_U> ubuntuissues: You're welcome. If you get no answers there (after waiting a while, most IRC channels are *much* less active than #ubuntu), try the linux-ext4 mailing list and if you don't mind, CC me on your email ( Whois me, my email is my first name dot my last name at gmail).
[21:19] <ubuntuissues> Jordan_U, alright
[21:19] <ubuntuissues> Uh, from the looks of it, #linuxfs isn't a support channel, it is a dev channel.
[21:20] <Jordan_U> ubuntuissues: Sorry, you're right. I was going by the comment at https://ext4.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Ext4_Howto .
[21:20] <tozen> quit
[21:21] <Jordan_U> ubuntuissues: I think it's safe to say that you have found a bug, though I'm not certain of that.
[21:21] <ubuntuissues> Is this IRC chat recorded publicly anywhere?
[21:21] <ubuntuissues> Cause I don't have logging enabled due to it being on a livecd
[21:21] <sam__> I need to repair grub2 . I have mounted my ubuntu partition in live usb.and now I use this command
[21:21] <sam__> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt/ /dev/sda Path `/mnt/boot/grub' is not readable by GRUB on boot. Installation is impossible. Aborting.
[21:21] <OerHeks> !log
[21:22] <ese> bekks,  ese@ese-IdeaPad-Z585:~$ aplay -l
[21:22] <ese> **** List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices ****  ...but does not show anything
[21:22] <Sector_0> hey guys I'm trying to emulate my mouse and keyboard using qjoypad but when I start the game the character and try to turn the character (via mouse emulation) the character spin violently
[21:22] <Jordan_U> sam__: Please pastebin the contents of /proc/mounts.
[21:22] <Sector_0> the other buttons seems to work though but something seem to be wrong with the mouse aspect of the emulation
[21:23] <Sector_0> I've even tried xpadder on top of wine and I get the same problem
[21:23] <Sector_0> so does anyone know what might cause this?
[21:23] <sam__> Jordan_U__: http://pastebin.com/jnFFSezD
[21:23] <ese> bekks, my sudo aplay -l: http://sprunge.us/HdAM
[21:23] <Sector_0> oh and also the mouse emulation works fine on the desktop, the problem only occurs in the game
[21:23] <ubuntuissues> OerHeks, thank you
[21:25] <Jordan_U> sam__: That's not what I asked for.
[21:25] <cuddylier> Hi
[21:25] <Sector_0> there some vague forum that suggested installing xserver-xorg-input-joystick but that requires xserver-xorg-core, but I'm kind of skeptical about doing so because that seem as though it's likely to brick ubuntu
[21:25] <cuddylier> I'm having issues viewing files on FTP, I can view a folder with the perms:  drwxrwx--- but why can't I view a folder with perms: d-wx--x--x
[21:26] <cuddylier> Also, how do I change this folder to drwxrwx---?
[21:26] <Jordan_U> sam__: It does however show that your root problem is that you haven't actually successfully mounted anything yet.
[21:27] <Jordan_U> sam__: sudo mount /dev/sda6 /mnt/
[21:27] <sam__> Jordan_U__:ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo mount /dev/sda6 mount: /dev/sda6 already mounted or /media/ubuntu/aa9a8b40-8489-4309-992e-5ffe0533bc41 busy mount: according to mtab, /dev/sda6 is already mounted on /media/ubuntu/aa9a8b40-8489-4309-992e-5ffe0533bc41
[21:27] <ubuntuissues> Jordan_U, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6022886/ would this be said bug? I can't tell if it is due to ext4 or something else.
[21:28] <bellatrix> Hello there
[21:28] <sam__> Jordan_U__: so how can i mount it?
[21:28] <silne30> Hello all. I am having an issue with partitions. I resized my drive to make more space for Linux and that operation was successful. When I went back into Linux, the entire HDD shows as unallocated space and when I double click the drive it tells me "Unable to Satisfy All Constraints"
[21:28] <Jordan_U> sam__: It's already mounted, at /media/ubuntu/aa9a8b40-8489-4309-992e-5ffe0533bc41 so run "sudo grub-install --boot-directory=/media/ubuntu/aa9a8b40-8489-4309-992e-5ffe0533bc41/boot /dev/sda".
[21:28] <Naphatul> if i turn on "Record activity" in the privacy settings will anything be sent to canonical/someone ?
[21:28] <Jordan_U> sam__: And be sure to run the exact command I gave.
[21:29] <silne30> I ran this command and get the same messange. sudo parted /dev/sda unit s print
[21:30] <Jordan_U> silne30: What tool did you use to do the resizing?
[21:30] <sam__> Jordan_U__: http://pastebin.com/7XGxtMZm
[21:30] <ubuntuissues> Also Jordan_U I didn't realize you were in the ext4 channel, but, what is the unmount command for grub-mount
[21:31] <bellatrix> i use xubuntu and i install plymouth and sudo update-alternatives --config default.plymouth
[21:31] <bellatrix> and i select number and than i reboot My computer and nothing happen
[21:31] <silne30> A windows tool. Easus partition manager.
[21:32] <bellatrix> plz help me
[21:32] <O[_]> why dont mint boot!!
[21:32] <O[_]> I put the stupid ISO on the usb stick
[21:32] <sam__> Jordan_U__: so grub is installed now? I can login to ubuntu if I reboot?
[21:32] <O[_]> DISK ERROR
[21:32] <O[_]> well that says a lot!
[21:32] <FloodBot1> O[_]: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:32] <Naphatul> if i turn on "Record activity" in the privacy settings will anything be sent to canonical/someone ?
[21:33] <O[_]> so wtf do I do now
[21:33] <silne30> I found that using the linux cd is much better than running from USB. IT's always been hit or miss.
[21:33] <Jordan_U> sam__: Yes, you should be good to go now.
[21:33] <bellatrix> guys help me
[21:33] <O[_]> im not putting it on a fucking cd it takes ages
[21:33] <bekks> O[_]: Ask the mint support and watch your language.
[21:33] <O[_]> ive did that with ubuntu already
[21:33] <Jordan_U> ubuntuissues: sudo umount /mnt/
[21:34] <ubuntuissues> Ah, okay, I thought it was a different command.
[21:34] <sam__> Jordan_U__: thank you verymuch I have been stucked with this problem  for very long time
[21:34] <O[_]> where is the mint support group
[21:34] <bekks> !mint | O[_]
[21:35] <Jordan_U> ubuntuissues: I'll be gone for about an hour (maybe less).
[21:35] <O[_]> lol theres two users in there
[21:35] <Naphatul> O[_]: ... on irc.spotchat.org
[21:35] <bekks> O[_]: Not our business ;P
[21:35] <O[_]> ok
[21:36] <O[_]> im trying it now
[21:36] <silne30> I am telling you O[_]. Using a CD works a lot better. How long have you had this issue?
[21:36] <ubuntuissues> Jordan_U, alright, well, thanks for everything so far. Though, I can't unmont /mnt because ls seems to have stalled, even though the process should have been killed.
[21:36] <IdleOne> silne30: feel free to help him in the mint support channel
[21:36] <O[_]> and if I dont like mint that will be more time wasted!
[21:36] <O[_]> im not using a cd
[21:36] <subcool> whats the attribute to use chown and make all subdirectories and files change permission too
[21:36] <O[_]> I only tried usb boot now
[21:37] <IdleOne> O[_]: Go to the mint support channel. mint is NOT supported here.
[21:37] <Naphatul> subcool: -r
[21:37] <O[_]> well why are you people asking me stuff then!
[21:37] <Naphatul> or -R
[21:37] <O[_]> I am trying to go to there
[21:37] <subcool> i tried R, but its not working wwell
[21:38] <Naphatul> subcool: man chown
[21:38] <subcool> idk y- but those things never make sense to me
[21:38] <subcool> i cant follow the attribute reasons
[21:39] <Naphatul> subcool: -R, --recursive, operate on files and directories recursively
[21:39] <Naphatul> whats so hard about that?
[21:39] <O[_]> how am I supposed to go to  #linuxmint-help
[21:40] <O[_]> it keeps coming up as irc.rizon.net!
[21:40] <subcool> so which is it? or is it both
[21:40] <IdleOne> type /server irc.spotchat.net , then join the channel
[21:41] <Naphatul> subcool: you can use either
[21:41] <O[_]> whats the port and hostname for this
[21:41] <IdleOne> seriously?
[21:41] <O[_]> nm got it
[21:42] <silne30> Any ideas on what may be going on with the partition issue?
[21:42] <silne30> I am all over google but not able to track down the issue yet.
[21:42] <silne30> I tried using fdisk to list my partitions
[21:42] <silne30> it says cannot open /dev/sda
[21:42] <subcool> do you put to --recurive after or before the path
[21:43] <Naphatul> again, does anyone know if any of the data with "Record activity" feature turned on is sent to canonical or anyone else?
[21:43] <silne30> Does that mean I have no partition table?
[21:43] <Naphatul> subcool: just go read the man page it explains how it works
[21:44] <JamoBox> Could anyone perhaps refer me to a channel that could help me with an issue I've been having dual booting Ubuntu with Windows 7?
[21:44] <LordDragon> hey all
[21:45] <silne30> Ooh. I think I found something.
[21:45] <silne30> JamoBox: what is the issue?
[21:45] <silne30> I am dual booted.
[21:45] <silne30> Maybe I can help.
[21:45] <LordDragon> does 13.04 have an issue mounting 64gb FAT32 drives? it mounts my 16gb just fine. but my 64bg thumb drive doesnt show up in /media/username
[21:46] <Slart> LordDragon: anything in the logs when you connect it? var/log/syslog is a good start
[21:46] <JamoBox> silne30: When I start my computer it will automatically boot into windows 7, without bringing up GRUB or anything similar. To get onto Ubuntu I have to press ESC during the bios flashscreen and go through menus selecting to run UEFI application, then select Ubuntu > Grub.efi from the harddisk
[21:46] <Naphatul> LordDragon: is it listed by "lsblk" ?
[21:46] <silne30> Partition 3 does not start on physical sector boundary.
[21:46] <bekks> LordDragon: MAximum volume size for FAT32 is 32GB.
[21:47] <JamoBox> I was wondering how to get GRUB to show up when I boot my computer so I can pick right away
[21:47] <LordDragon> ah thought so bekks
[21:47] <LordDragon> lsblk shows it as sdb
[21:47] <LordDragon> but its not mounted
[21:47] <bekks> LordDragon: Thats a drive, not a filesystem. :)
[21:47] <LordDragon> osx and windows can mount FAT32 volumes over 32GB....
[21:48] <Extreminador> how can i know my local ip address ?
[21:48] <VassiliAr> i'd like to compile a program as a non root user can anyone help me please?
[21:48] <Slart> LordDragon: bekks: Microsoft lists the limit of 32 GB as a limit in the formatting utility shipped with windows.. they mention 127 GB as a limit for reading from drives
[21:48] <JamoBox> Extreminador: ifconfig
[21:48] <Extreminador> thanks JamoBox
[21:48] <JamoBox> no problem
[21:48] <Naphatul> VassiliAr: why do you need root to compile it?
[21:48] <LordDragon> Slart: while its true that widnows doesnt officially let you format over 32GB, you CAN do it and windows will read/write just fine to it
[21:49] <LordDragon> wow. it just mounted itself
[21:49] <crundar> How do I change which proprietary nvidia driver I'm using from the command line. I'm trying to choose the right one (I'm looking for the overscan correction option)
[21:49] <LordDragon> after like 2 minutes
[21:49] <Naphatul> LordDragon: try mount -t vfat /dev/sdb /mnt
[21:49] <Naphatul> if sdb is your usb
[21:49] <LordDragon> it took like 2 -3 minutes of nothing, then suddenly the GUI popped up with it mounted
[21:49] <LordDragon> i wonder why the delay
[21:50] <Slart> LordDragon: yes, that's what I was saying... =)
[21:50] <crundar> I choose .... poorly, and am now not getting a graphical display
[21:50] <VassiliAr> i dont need root to compile i dont know how to compile it without getting error about missing libraries
[21:50] <Naphatul> so no one knows what "Record activiy" in the Privacy panel does?
[21:50] <LordDragon> Slart: you were saying there would be a delay to mount it?
[21:50] <HisaoNakai> crundar: Indian Jones lol
[21:50] <crundar> failsafeX, the backup graphics version, isn't working
[21:50] <linuxuz3r> how to install gnome 3 in 12/04
[21:51] <bekks> VassiliAr: then you have to find out where to find the missing libraries.
[21:51] <Moseco> I have what i hope is a quick question. I have windows 7 on 1 ssd and ubuntu (installed 2nd) on another ssd. What is the best way to dual boot this set up? I am aware of the repair tool, does this create a grub dual boot for this?
[21:51] <Slart> LordDragon: no, that the 32GB limit was just when creating volumes with windows 2000.. but nevermind.. it works for you now?
[21:51] <crundar> HisaoNakai: yeah, It's not quite face-bleeding, arc-of-the-covenant, but I'd sure like to have a graphical display again
[21:51] <OerHeks> linuxuz3r, 12.04 has gnome3 already
[21:51] <LordDragon> Slart: yeah.. suddenly it just popped up after like 2-3 minutes of nothing
[21:51] <visualise> o:
[21:51] <LordDragon> whats the keyboard command to jump to the end of document in pico?
[21:52] <visualise> LordDragon, do you see it gets taken care of after it pops up?
[21:52] <OerHeks> linuxuz3r, open terminal: gnome-about –gnome-version
[21:52] <VassiliAr> i been reading about compiling and missing libraries for 2 days now and feel like i need help please
[21:52] <linuxuz3r> ok
[21:52] <LordDragon> visualise: what do you mean by "taken care of" ?
[21:52] <HisaoNakai> crundar: lol, I'd help if I wasn't a luser
[21:53] <Naphatul> VassiliAr: perhaps ask in the channel for the language you're learning?
[21:53] <LordDragon> ok in the syslog i was getting timeouts
[21:54] <LordDragon> ubuntu udevd: timeout /sbin/blkid -o udev -p /dev/sdb
[21:54] <VassiliAr> im not learning really i already know how to program a bit i havent done it in a long time and the same goes for compiling in linux
[21:54] <squaregoldfish> VassiliAir: What's your question?
[21:55] <LordDragon> it kept trying and trying to mount it
[21:55] <LordDragon> and eventually succeeded
[21:55] <VassiliAr> i want to compile qemu as non root and get a missing libraries error
[21:55] <bekks> VassiliAr: Pastebin the full, exact error message into a pastebin then.
[21:55] <Atlantean> is anyone here?
[21:55] <bekks> !pastebin | VassiliAr
[21:56] <Atlantean> Hi,
[21:56] <bekks> Atlantean: More than 1000 people - why?
[21:56] <Atlantean> bekks: hi
[21:56] <VassiliAr> your offering a program i cannot install lol
[21:56] <Atlantean> bekks: my keyboard doesnt work on fresh install of Debian, cannot use console, help make it work etc.
[21:56] <Atlantean> touchpad also
[21:56] <bekks> Atlantean: We dont support Debian in here.
[21:57] <katkisson> I hear Lubuntu is going to upgrade in Ocotober, and that the old one will only be supported for a couple of months longer. How long is support for the new upgrade for Lubuntu going to last
[21:57] <Atlantean> Ubuntu?
[21:57] <MH53_Intel> lol
[21:57] <bekks> VassiliAr: You can use copy and paste and a browser.
[21:57] <VassiliAr> output : zlib check failed        Make sure to have the zlib libs and headers installed
[21:57] <Atlantean> I have KUbuntu
[21:57] <Moseco> I have what i hope is a quick question. I have windows 7 on 1 ssd and ubuntu (installed 2nd) on another ssd. What is the best way to dual boot this set up? I am aware of the repair tool, does this create a grub dual boot for this?
[21:57] <bekks> VassiliAr: The full error message please, in a pastebin :)
[21:57] <bekks> Atlantean: You just said you have Debian. Please seek their support then.
[21:57] <El_Caballero> Hello people. May I ask a question about aptitude? I know it is an Ubuntu's channel and not aptitude
[21:58] <VassiliAr> i dont have pastebin i dont even know what it is - but the full message was just posted
[21:58] <wilee-nilee> Moseco, You have ubuntu already right, thats what I read?
[21:58] <bekks> VassiliAr: ^Pastebin services are websites...
[21:58] <Moseco> wilee-nilee, i have it installed on the 2nd HD
[21:58] <Atlantean> bekks: Ubuntu is below Debian, anyway I have Ubuntu 10.10 installed and many oters, no keyboard
[21:58] <bekks> VassiliAr: You dont need to install anything for using it.
[21:58] <kostkon> !paste | VassiliAr
[21:59] <bekks> Atlantean: 10.10 is EOL and unsupported.
[21:59] <visualise> "Ubuntu is below Debian"?!
[21:59] <wilee-nilee> Moseco, Partitioned or a wubi install?
[21:59] <bekks> !eolupgrades | Atlantean
[21:59] <Atlantean> everything is based on Debian man
[21:59] <bekks> Atlantean: We dont care. If you have Debian, seek their support.
[21:59] <Atlantean> bekks: I dont have Debian
[21:59] <visualise> I can't understand why people still use redhat, fedora, etc. They must join the debian-blob!
[21:59] <bekks> Atlantean: You said you do.
[22:00] <Moseco> wille-nille, i used a disk to install ubuntu onto the HD while my windows HD was disconected
[22:00] <wilee-nilee> Moseco, You using grub to boot both?
[22:00] <Atlantean> bekks: I said I want to install linux and I cannot any, so I stopped by to look, if when I run Ubuntu now, someone can tell me if there are some drivers for Ubuntu and it is straightforward, cause Linux Mint failed at it totally
[22:00] <LordDragon> is there a GUI app in ubunty for monitor the syslog ?
[22:00] <LordDragon> erm ubuntu*
[22:00] <Moseco> wille-nille, when i have only my ubuntu connected it shows the grub screen but with both HDs connected windows boots
[22:01] <bekks> Atlantean: Use a recent Ubuntu version then. 10.10 is not supported anymore.
[22:01] <kostkon> LordDeath, the default gnome log viewer?
[22:01] <squaregoldfish> VassiliAir: zlib is a library. To compile a program that needs it, you have to install the development package. For zlib, look in synaptic for a package named something like zlib-dev or libzlib-dev.
[22:01] <kostkon> oops
[22:01] <Atlantean> Atlantean: no be sure I have the newest
[22:01] <kostkon> LordDragon, the default gnome log viewer?*
[22:01] <LordDragon> ah found it
[22:01] <LordDragon> thanks
[22:01] <Atlantean> Atlantean: I have the newest one
[22:01] <bekks> Atlantean: you said you have 10.10 - which is not the newest.
[22:01] <Atlantean> too
[22:02] <kostkon> LordDragon, :)
[22:02] <Atlantean> I have installed all versions on hdd
[22:02] <wilee-nilee> Moseco, both are internal HD right, you can have both plugged in and that is a dualboot, am I missing something here?
[22:02] <bekks> Atlantean: However. MAybe someone else will support you - I wont anymore.
[22:03] <Atlantean> ok, I see, Ubuntu is shit
[22:03] <Moseco> wilee-nilee, they are both internal, but when i installed ubuntu i had my windows HD disconnected
[22:03] <silne30> Does anyone have any familiarity with fdisk and issues that can come about?
[22:03] <Atlantean> as someone mentioned on forum "made by laicks for laicks"
[22:03] <Moseco> wilee-nille, Would launching from the install disk and using the repair tool make it so grub came up instead of windows?
[22:03] <kostkon> bye
[22:04] <wilee-nilee> Moseco, Right plug them both in in ubuntu run sudo update-grub and you will either with grub if you have that HD read first in the bios.
[22:04] <wilee-nilee>  you will boot either*&
[22:04] <silne30> http://pastebin.com/wCmEFFPc This is what fdisk records to me. sda3 and sda5 seem to overlap or something and it seems to be sda3's fault.
[22:05] <VassiliAr> http://pastebin.com/aFL59x1L - my pastebin error url i suppose
[22:05] <bekks> VassiliAr: Pastebin the full output, not just two lines.
[22:05] <crundar> Alright, I managed the first step, which is to enable my fs in read/write mode, and I can now edit the /etc/modprobe.d/nvidia-graphics-drivers.conf file
[22:05] <VassiliAr> the full output is 2 lines
[22:05] <crundar> not entirely sure what I need to do from there to reenable the right graphics drivers
[22:05] <VassiliAr> you mean the commnad im using too?
[22:06] <Moseco> wille-nilee, So this will configure the bios to read the ubuntu hard drive first or do i go into bios and change the order to the ubuntu drive?
[22:06] <bekks> VassiliAr: No. The output of the command giving you that error is much much longer. Give us the full output.
[22:06] <LordDragon> so if ubuntu has issues with FAT32 volumes above 32gb, whats the recommended filesystem for large usb thumb drives on ubuntu that isc ompatible with other computers/devices?
[22:06] <darkelfjuggalo> I need Java in ubuntu 13.04; certain websites require it...but unsure which package i need
[22:06] <squaregoldfish> VassiliAr: zlib is a library. To compile a program that needs it, you have to install the development package. For zlib, look in synaptic for a package named something like zlib-dev or libzlib-dev.
[22:07] <Naphatul> VassiliAr: why are you compiling qemu?
[22:07] <VassiliAr> no the output is 2 lines only - i could add a 3rd if you like by adding the command that i used which is configure
[22:07] <wilee-nilee> Moseco, You can tab complete nicks to get them correct, so we are notified you are talking to us. You have to set the bios.
[22:07] <bekks> VassiliAr: We want to see a paste with the command in the first line and the full output of that command.
[22:08] <VassiliAr> i cannot use package manager as non root - but i read and beeng told that it can be done anyway
[22:08] <bekks> VassiliAr: I will not tell it a fourth time.
[22:08] <bekks> VassiliAr: You dont need to install anything.
[22:08] <VassiliAr> man 2 mins ago i didnt know what pastebin was cut me some slack here please
[22:08] <Naphatul> bekks: he means thats why he's compiling qemu, because he can't install it
[22:08] <wilee-nilee> Moseco, There is also a boot from menu outside the bios for a persession choiced of what to boot from, say if you want to boot a cd, or usb or the other HD without changing the bios
[22:08] <bekks> Naphatul: We dont even know the command he is running.
[22:09] <Moseco> wilee-nilee: Ok, so using sudo update-grub will make the grub have windows and ubuntu in it, and then i go into the bios and set the ubuntu drive first in the list. Just to make sure i have it right.
[22:09] <wilee-nilee> Moseco, You have got it. ;)
[22:09] <Moseco> wilee-nilee: Thank you very much, time to hopefully not break my computer :P
[22:10] <squaregoldfish> VassiliAr: If you can't use a package manager to install things, I'm afraid you can't get much further - you'll  need to install the support packages for compilation, and if you can't do that then you're stuck.
[22:10] <VassiliAr> here i updated the pastebin adding commandline (one of many that i tried) : http://pastebin.com/neVQb7GY
[22:11] <bekks> VassiliAr: Where is the FULL output of that command?
[22:11] <VassiliAr> there is nothing else - i dont see anything else printed in the console
[22:11] <bekks> VassiliAr: There is much more, when you press enter after your command.
[22:12] <bekks> VassiliAr: It starts to scroll a lot, and you will see your errors too.
[22:12] <bekks> VassiliAr: Anyway, someone else will help you.
[22:12] <squaregoldfish> bekks: Hate to say it, but you're a bit agressive.
[22:13] <VassiliAr> no that is after configure finishes o have seen it - you mean after make and make install run - but i dont get to that part because to execution stops earlier
[22:13] <bekks> squaregoldfish: I am just refusing to help voluntarely after telling him the same thing 5 times and hearing different reason for why he is not providing the requested information.
[22:15] <VassiliAr> i having a problem compiling a program can anyone help me please?
[22:16] <Jordan_U> VassiliAr: What is your end goal?
[22:17] <VassiliAr> to be able to use it
[22:18] <Jordan_U> VassiliAr: To be able to use what?
[22:19] <VassiliAr> qemu - i managed to compile zlib which is required by qemu
[22:19] <VassiliAr> but when i tried to compile qemu it says i cannot find zlib libraries
[22:20] <Jordan_U> VassiliAr: Why not just use qemu on a computer that you control, or why not ask the Sysadmin to install qemu for you to use?
[22:22] <VassiliAr> i just dont see it happening that way jordan - but i read and been told that i could compile it and use it
[22:24] <VassiliAr> i having a problem compiling a program can anyone help me please?
[22:26] <Anonynimity> Hello all. I'm having an issue with ubuntu raring. anyone help please?
[22:27] <HisaoNakai> !ask | Anonynimity
[22:27] <HisaoNakai> :)
[22:27] <VassiliAr> im having a problem compiling a program can anyone help me please?
[22:28] <Anonynimity> Firefox is downloading at a horrid 12 kbps. I figure something is hogging the bandwidth. I can't figure out what. Could someone help me get my download speeds working correctly?
[22:28] <cgtdk> !patience | VassiliAr
[22:28] <visualise> Anonynimity, did you run a virus scan?
[22:29] <wilee-nilee> VassiliAr, If someone feels they can they will answer, it is expected you wait around 10 min to repost this sort of stuff, and not ask for help but post the actual problem in detail.
[22:29] <ese> Hi, my sound is not working in ubuntu 12.04 Precise 32bits, this is some related hardware pastes: http://sprunge.us/iRYQ  http://sprunge.us/HdAM  and http://sprunge.us/JEWJ  ...thank you.
[22:29] <Anonynimity> nope I have not.
[22:29] <VassiliAr> im having a problem compiling a program can anyone help me please? http://pastebin.com/neVQb7GY
[22:30] <Anonynimity> running clamtk now.
[22:30] <wilee-nilee> Anonynimity, Have you done a speed check?
[22:31] <Anonynimity> yes I have done a speed check. it comes out to 3 MiB/s
[22:31] <wilee-nilee> Anonynimity, Not your computer likely try rebooting the router to start with.
[22:31] <wilee-nilee> Anonynimity, The source could be slow.
[22:32] <wilee-nilee> Anonynimity, thats not slow persay what is the max speed your allowed.
[22:32] <Anonynimity> downloading from solidfiles
[22:32] <scott_ev> I haven't edited my wiki in a very long time.  Now I can't get an 'edit' page even though I'm logged in - any ideas?
[22:32] <mike12> Hi, I just installed Ubuntu 13.04 from dvd. Installation went successful. Upon bootup, the PC is trying to boot from the network.  It doesn't boot into Ubuntu (cd is removed).  Pics: http://imgur.com/a/bwcly
[22:33] <Anonynimity> the max speed I'm allowed is 5 MBps
[22:33] <Anonynimity> I'm downloading at 12 kbps
[22:33] <wilee-nilee> Anonynimity, Make sure you use nicks here.
[22:33] <Anonynimity> sorry wilee-nilee
[22:34] <wilee-nilee> Anonynimity, no biggie it just makes things easier, I'm not sure of the problem but solid files does not carry much info.
[22:35] <VassiliAr> im having a problem compiling a program can anyone help me please? http://pastebin.com/neVQb7GY
[22:35] <Anonynimity> I'm downloading a file stock_android_ics_4.0.3 for my fusion 2. it's 285 MBs. @ wilee-nilee
[22:37] <wilee-nilee> Anonynimity, Sure, I have 7MB but am throttled at 700KB on downloads, you are subject to that possibilty and the speed of the servers between you and the download.
[22:37] <Jordan_U> VassiliAr: Ubuntu has a package manager for a reason, if you try to install programs without using the package manager at all 1: It will be verry difficult, much more so than just compiling a single program normally would be 2: So far away from how Ubuntu is setup to work that I'd almost say it's offtopic for this channel and 3: So tedious that you can't expect people to want to help you through it, so be happy if they do but don't expe
[22:38] <Anonynimity> ok... is there a way to check if there's something hogging my bandwidth @ wilee-nilee?
[22:38] <visualise> Anonynimity, did you run a virus scan?
[22:38] <Anonynimity> it's running visualise
[22:38] <wilee-nilee> Anonynimity, Not sure to be honest, I've never had to check that out.
[22:38] <visualise> Anonynimity, what kind? I hope it check for rootkits too
[22:39] <Anonynimity> clamtk.
[22:39] <Anonynimity> clamtk. @ visualise
[22:40] <wilee-nilee> Anonynimity, Highly unlikely you have anything resembling a badware, in linux it is basically rootkits and keyloggers and have to have root to do anything, can I assume your have not run in root and and a strong password, and know what your doing?
[22:41] <wilee-nilee> you*
[22:41] <Anonynimity> yes, yes, yes, and yes @ wilee-nilee
[22:42] <VassiliAr> offtopic for installing something in ubuntu? isnt this an ubuntu? then where should i go for help?
[22:42] <Guest86931> .
[22:42] <wilee-nilee> Anonynimity, Cool, just had to ask we never know. ;) Kind of out of my area to do a bottom up analysis of what might be happening.
[22:43] <Anonynimity> I understand... just bugging the h377 out of me... ya know?
[22:43] <wilee-nilee> sure
[22:44] <Guest86931> This is by far the coolest thing I've ever seen in my life. How do I change my username from Guest though?
[22:44] <kimir> I installed libreoffice-gtk3 package but it is unaffected by it. How can I make libreoffice use gtk3?
[22:44] <wilee-nilee> !nick
[22:44] <wilee-nilee> Guest86931, ^^
[22:44] <Guest86931> thanks guys
[22:44] <isasha> I feel this is relevant http://i.imgur.com/skeWow2.jpg
[22:45] <VassiliAr> im having a problem compiling a program can anyone help me please? http://pastebin.com/neVQb7GY
[22:45] <rousseaua> so cool
[22:45] <cgtdk> !patience | VassiliAr
[22:45] <Anonynimity> willee-nillee > http://pastebin.com/sHU3GJ6w
[22:47] <wilee-nilee> Anonynimity, Nothing I understand.
[22:48] <Anonynimity> ok...
[22:48] <wilee-nilee> isasha, To what, we just don;t click on links here.
[22:48] <isasha> but you still read it
[22:49] <isasha> :)
[22:49] <wilee-nilee> isasha, Your point is?
[22:49] <isasha> dude, it's imgur - a pointless, utterly useless procrastination tool
[22:49] <isasha> there is no point
[22:49] <wilee-nilee> !ot | isasha
[22:50] <VassiliAr> im having a problem compiling a program can anyone help me please? http://pastebin.com/neVQb7GY
[22:51] <Jordan_U> VassiliAr: The solution for installing qemu in Ubuntu is to run "sudo apt-get install qemu". You are doing something very different, because you don't have admin privileges on the machine you're using. You're also not just compiling a single program, so please clarify that in the future.
[22:51] <Anonynimity> VassiliAr- please try sudo apt-get install zlib zlib-lib linux-headers-generic
[22:51] <Anonynimity> or sudo apt-get install zlib zlib-libs linux-headers-generic
[22:52] <Anonynimity> if that doesn't work remove the zlib-libs command VassiliAr
[22:52] <VassiliAr> anonymity and jordan i cant use package manager cause i dont have root - but i have read that i could be done anyway and even been told so in chat rooms like this one
[22:52] <Jordan_U> VassiliAr: And answers like Anonynimity gave are why you need to clarify what you're actually trying to do. You're *not* just compiling qemu.
[22:53] <Anonynimity> Jordan_U >> line 4 Error:zlib check failed >> Line 5 : make sure to have the zlib libs and headers installed.
[22:54] <Jordan_U> VassiliAr: Please try ##linux, and if you ask your question again without clarifying that you are trying to compile qemu and all of its build dependencies and all of its runtime dependencies without access to the package manager, I will have to mute you as you are wasting helper's time.
[22:54] <Moseco> I have windows and ubuntu installed on two seperate hard drives and i have the ubuntu HD set in the bios to boot first yet windows boots by default, anyone know how to fix this?
[22:55] <wolfspy> who uses ubuntu with gnome 3?
[22:55] <VassiliAr> ok buddy i will clarify
[22:55] <Naphatul> Moseco: do you get to GRUB?
[22:55] <VassiliAr> instead of threatining me you should offer me - you are wating time i think
[22:55] <VassiliAr> why not offering some ideas for a change?
[22:56] <Anonynimity> VassiliAr check p2p msgs
[22:56] <Moseco> Naphatul: If go to the bios screen and select the efi shell associated with ubuntu then i get to grub. But if i let it boot on its own it goes to windows
[22:56] <wilee-nilee> Moseco, down load this app and run the bootinfo summary only, and post the generated url. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[22:57] <rousseaua> anyone have favorite applications for the terminal?
[22:57] <wilee-nilee> Moseco, Ah efi this a uefi W8 dual boot?
[22:58] <Moseco> wilee-nilee: I assume you mean windows 8, i have windows 7
[22:58] <Moseco> wilee-nilee: Here is the link http://paste/ubuntu.com/6023114/
[22:59] <wilee-nilee> Moseco, That script is helpful with some helpers if you have a uefi I can't help. I'm just trying to confirm this is a uefi, generally W8 is involved.
[22:59] <Naphatul> why not just turn off uefi if you have w7?
[22:59] <actarus488> I have countacted WebbyIT.. what is a 'bouncer' please?
[22:59] <Naphatul> it doesn't need it
[22:59] <Moseco> wilee-nilee: I have updated the bios (intel) to the latest and i have set UEFI not to be the only boot option
[23:00] <Jordan_U> VassiliAr: I already asked you before to clarify what you're doing, and said exactly how you should do so.
[23:01] <Moseco> wilee-nilee: Here is the link to boot repair summery: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6023114/
[23:02] <wilee-nilee> Moseco, Here is a good thread on this subject, and the author is one of the best helpers in this area. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2147295
[23:02] <wilee-nilee> Moseco, I'm not up on uefi stuff, it can be different per manufacturers versions...etc
[23:03] <Moseco> wilee-nilee: Ok, thanks
[23:03] <BabsSeed> Hey, I just installed 13.04 from the live CD environment (MD5 of the CD checks out fine). The graphical interface works when I boot the CD but after a reboot I'm stuck with a black screen with a flashing white underscore cursor. Holding shift or esc doesn't bring up a grub menu. I'm running a Phenom II, 16GB RAM, GeForce GTX570. Any suggestions appreciated.
[23:03] <Jordan_U> Moseco: Please pastebin the output of "sudo efibootmgr" then the output of "sudo grub-install".
[23:04] <wilee-nilee> actarus488, what is WebbyIT?
[23:04] <O[_]> in mint how do I rename trasn and computer
[23:04] <Jordan_U> !mint | O[_]
[23:04] <wilee-nilee> !nomodeset | BabsSeed
[23:04] <O[_]> they wont help
[23:05] <O[_]> idk why
[23:05] <VassiliAr> ok i got that jordan
[23:05] <O[_]> nor will #linux
[23:05] <actarus488> hi wilee-nilee! it is a nickname, answered: i am only a bouncer
[23:05] <VassiliAr> now i ask you why dont you offer me a solution then?
[23:05] <jordan> VassiliAr: no problem :/
[23:05] <wilee-nilee> BabsSeed, Ah no grub meanu this a dual boot or multiple HD's?
[23:05] <Jordan_U> O[_]: That's unfortunate, but this channel still does not support Mint.
[23:05] <wilee-nilee> actarus488, Not on this channel
[23:06] <BabsSeed> wilee-nilee: I have 4 HDDs but I chose to install to the specific one, encrypted but didn't manually partition or anything.
[23:06] <O[_]> ok.
[23:06] <Moseco> Jordan_U: I assume you mean to paste what those two commands return?
[23:06] <actarus488> before, he leave i think
[23:06] <BabsSeed> wilee-nilee: No other OS's on the machine, other HDDs are empty.
[23:06] <Jordan_U> VassiliAr: Because what you're doing is incredibly tedious and I don't have the time or motivation to walk you through it (which I also explained).
[23:07] <actarus488> wilee-nilee what is a bouncer, is a irc name?
[23:07] <Jordan_U> Moseco: Yes. The "output" of a command is what it prints to the screen (stdout). Technically what it "returns" would be the exit code (a single number).
[23:07] <Moseco> Jordan_U: Here is the output of sudo efibootmgr: BootCurrent: FFFF Timeout: 2 seconds BootOrder: 0000 Boot0000* Windows Boot Manager
[23:08] <VassiliAr> at least you could point me some basic help or direction to whcih i could go - especially if thats hard to do...
[23:08] <Moseco> Jordan_U: Here is the output of sudo grub-install: installtion finished. NO error reported
[23:08] <wilee-nilee> BabsSeed, I wonder if the grub bootloader is on one of the HD's have you tried booting from anyone of them? Is there anything other then a mbr set up here or an encrypted standard install, like raid...etc?
[23:08] <BabsSeed> VassiliAr:  What are you trying to do?
[23:08] <Jofironses> Hello, does some one know where I could find the source code for symlink(from, to)
[23:08] <Naphatul> VassiliAr: they already did that
[23:08] <BabsSeed> wilee-nilee: It's an encrypted standard install. No RAID active yet (I'm planning to do that after I've got a working setup).
[23:09] <Naphatul> Jofironses: gnu.org/software/coreutils most likely
[23:09] <BabsSeed> wilee-nilee: Is it likely thaat it'd install grub on another HDD? :(
[23:09] <VassiliAr> then i missed that napha ' twhat did they say?
[23:09] <actarus488> wilee-nilee however WebbyIT is in this room now u can see him
[23:09] <wilee-nilee> BabsSeed, You might have the grub someplace other than the HD you installed to, this have a boot partition?
[23:09] <Jordan_U> Moseco: Please post the output of "sudo efibootmgr" again now that you're run grub-install (use pastebin if it's more than one line).
[23:09] <VassiliAr> im trying to compile qemu without root
[23:10] <BabsSeed> wilee-nilee: I'll try manually partitioning, I'm assuming that will allow me to choose where to install grub.
[23:10] <Jofironses> Naphatul: That is exactly where I am looking at right now. I see a declaration of this function in a unistd.h, but unfortunately no real function
[23:10] <VassiliAr> i read that its possible and even beeng told so in these chats
[23:10] <wilee-nilee> BabsSeed, The manual does yes, encryption can be a real hassle, I would not use it myself.
[23:10] <Naphatul> Jofironses: what do you mena no function? the source code is on that page
[23:11] <Jordan_U> VassiliAr: Is there a reason that you haven't tried asking in ##linux, like I've suggested multiple times?
[23:11] <wilee-nilee> BabsSeed, I have an encrypted file, but not the whole OS.
[23:11] <Naphatul> VassiliAr: you need the zlib development libraries, since you can't install them through the package manager you need to find another way
[23:11] <Moseco> Jordan_U: Sorry i am new to this, what is pastebin?
[23:11] <Naphatul> additinally you may need to use fakeroot or something like that
[23:11] <Jordan_U> !pastebin | Moseco
[23:11] <Naphatul> this channel isn't the place to find out how to compile it
[23:12] <Naphatul> either follow the guide or ask in #qemu
[23:12] <VassiliAr> yes napha what im saying is that many guys leave when a difficulty shows up and some go one - especially if i know that it is possible to do it
[23:12] <BabsSeed> wilee-nilee: I need encrypted swap :)
[23:12] <Moseco> Jordan_U: sudo efibootmgr output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6023160/
[23:12] <Jofironses> Naphatul: Seems like I had it wrong. Here is what I have on my unistd.c #include <config.h>
[23:12] <Jofironses> #define _GL_UNISTD_INLINE _GL_EXTERN_INLINE
[23:12] <Jofironses> #include "unistd.h"
[23:13] <Naphatul> VassiliAr: because you're expecting them to do your work for you, also this is the wrong channel to ask
[23:13] <TaZeR> sup noobuntus LOL
[23:13] <VassiliAr> i been to qemu its empty
[23:13] <Naphatul> Jofironses: still no idea what you're looking at
[23:13] <VassiliAr> i been to qemu channel its empty
[23:13] <Naphatul> s/at/for
[23:14] <Extreminador> is i possible to know the command in use for some window program ? like the xwininfo that gives some information but not this one
[23:14] <VassiliAr> napha i been trying to do this for 2 days already - dont you think its time i get some help?
[23:14] <Jordan_U> Moseco: Please join #grub and ask why grub-install isn't succesfully adding a boot entry for your UEFI firmeware, and post a link to the output of "sudo grub-install" and "sudo efibootmgr".
[23:14] <Naphatul> VassiliAr: did you get the zlib development libraries?
[23:15] <Moseco> Jordan_U: Thanks
[23:15] <Jordan_U> VassiliAr: You are not entitled to help, especially not for something like this.
[23:15] <Jordan_U> VassiliAr: If you want to be entitled to support, then pay for support services. We are all volunteers.
[23:16] <VassiliAr> jeez jordan you seem like my judge doing statements like that -  and why do you think other people offer help in situations like mine?
[23:16] <TaZeR> keep noobin it up noobuntus
[23:17] <jordan> VassiliAr: if you mean to address Jordan_U you should probably use his name instead of mine
[23:17] <Jofironses> Naphatul: I am still trying to find symlink(...). I have my /usr/include/sys/unistd.h: "#include <unistd.h>"
[23:17] <Jofironses> Naphatul: Let me get you my unistd.h
[23:19] <VassiliAr> sorry jordan lol
[23:19] <VassiliAr> i find amusing that jordan tells me im not entitle for help - especially in linux where everything is for everyone
[23:19] <Jofironses> Naphatul: My /usr/include/unistd.h: does in fact have extern int symlink(__const char *__from...)
[23:20] <Jofironses> Naphatul: but still no source code
[23:20] <jordan> VassiliAr: I find it amusing that you keep pinging me when you mean to address Jordan_U
[23:20] <Jofironses> Naphatul: i see only the declaration
[23:20] <VassiliAr> funny point of view he has - maybe its beacuse he has some authority in this chat which seems to cloud his judgement
[23:20] <BabsSeed> VassiliAr: In Linux if something doesn't exist, you create it yourself, not complain like a spoilt child that no one's doing it for you.
[23:20] <VassiliAr> sorry again jordan i meant jordan U
[23:20] <BabsSeed> That's my $0.02
[23:20] <Anonynimity> I have a more complicated question... would someone be able to tell me how to port ubuntu phone to the huawei fusion 2?
[23:21] <Naphatul> Jofironses: i don't think they have to ship the source code, only provide it if you ask for it
[23:21] <Naphatul> so it's most likely not included
[23:21] <Naphatul> why aren't you looking at the page i linked? it contains the source code to all the coreutils, find it there
[23:22] <VassiliAr> im not complaining i been trying to do this for days  and thought i was time to get some human help
[23:22] <Jofironses> Naphatul: I have the downloaded project already. Opened it in my netbeans. Still cannot find the source code
[23:22] <BabsSeed> VassiliAr: Try asking on qemu mailing lists, this isnt #qemu
[23:22] <VassiliAr> and again i says i know its possible to do it - i read about it and been told about it in chats
[23:22] <VassiliAr> im not trying to create anything new - just find out how to do it
[23:22] <Jofironses> Naphatul: I am kind of lost and don't know where to look for it
[23:22] <Naphatul> VassiliAr: then ask whoever said it was possible, you keep ignoring advice here
[23:23] <Anonynimity> would someone also be able to tell me if this is a safe thing to do in ubuntu raring? http://www.unixmen.com/resolve-slow-connexion-when-using-wifi-in-ubuntu-1104-natty-narwhal/
[23:23] <VassiliAr> no im not ignoring i just cant speak with everyone at the same time and miss messages
[23:23] <Naphatul> Jofironses: lingrok.org/xref/coreutils/src/ln.c
[23:23] <VassiliAr> i tried other channels and many are empty
[23:23] <BabsSeed> VassiliAr: It is possible, that doesn't mean someone here wants to spend the next 4 hours explaining how to do it. Brain surgery is also possible but most surgeons wouldn't try to give you a 101.
[23:23] <Jofironses> let me check that
[23:24] <Anonynimity> thx Jofironses.
[23:24] <Anonynimity> lol
[23:24] <Jofironses> lol
[23:24] <BabsSeed> VassiliAr: Try asking on SuperUser or ServerFault.
[23:25] <Anonynimity> >> GOOGLE IT!
[23:26] <Naphatul> Anonynimity: since you're asking if it's safe then for you it's probably not
[23:26] <Jofironses> Naphatul: you could check that page you sent me, line 288 there is only a reference
[23:26] <visualise> BabsSeed, not with that attitude
[23:26] <Jofironses> Naphatul: line 322 the same
[23:26] <Anonynimity> Just wondering Naphatul, because it says it's for Natty whirl.
[23:26] <Anonynimity> but I'm running raring.
[23:26] <Anonynimity> so... conflict?
[23:27] <Jofironses> Naphatul: I am not quite sure, but I am starting to guess it is implemented in the kernel. Could that be it?
[23:28] <Naphatul> i don't see anything distro specific there, but if you have to ask if it's safe it means you can't fix it if it breaks something
[23:28] <BabsSeed> VassiliAr: You have a case of entitlement complex unfortunately. People here are volunteers and do a good job helping but what you're asking for is a borderline case that they would have to research and use their time on.
[23:28] <Naphatul> Jofironses: yes the actuall symlink is made with a system call, in the future use google/wikipedia more
[23:29] <Jofironses> Naphatul: I did use it, but could not find the answer. That is the reason I came here to ask
[23:29] <Naphatul> what did you search for?
[23:29] <Jofironses> symlink source code
[23:29] <Naphatul> because i have no idea how it works at all and was able to find the source and how it does it in 10 seconds
[23:30] <Jofironses> symlink source
[23:30] <Anonynimity> Not true Naphatul. I followed a guide once... said to remove the dnsmasq-base package. which *stupidly* I had done. but... then... I lost all my internet connection packages. went and downloaded every single .deb package that it was dependent upon, and, about 3 million terminal lines later, it was fixed.
[23:30] <Anonynimity> :)
[23:30] <Jofironses> Naphatul: Excellent, send me a page with the code then
[23:30] <VassiliAr> no bab you said they dont want to spend 4 hours helping me - i dont want that i just want 1 Minute just 1 for them to point me in the right direction - thats what you dont seem to notice
[23:30] <BabsSeed> VassiliAr: I'm sure if someone knew what to do they would help you. I'd suggest looking into fakeroot
[23:31] <BabsSeed> VassiliAr: Or use another computer and cross compile qemu for your platform
[23:31] <Anonynimity> or just set a password... and install your generic linux headers, then install the zlib package,
[23:31] <Naphatul> Jofironses: so you want the kernel code?
[23:31] <Anonynimity> and be done with it... after that, disable your pw again... ?
[23:32] <Jofironses> Naphatul: I can get it myself, but I'm not sure it will be there
[23:32] <mike12> Hi, I just installed Ubuntu 13.04 from dvd. Installation went successful. Upon bootup, the PC is trying to boot from the network.  It doesn't boot into Ubuntu (cd is removed).  Pics: http://imgur.com/a/bwcly
[23:32] <BabsSeed> Jofironses: The kernel code is at kernel.org
[23:32] <Jofironses> BabsSeed: I know, thanks
[23:32] <Naphatul> Jofironses: how do you mean it won't be there?
[23:32] <Anonynimity> go to your bios settings mike12
[23:32] <Jofironses> Naphatul: I mean I don't know if symlink is implemented by the kernel
[23:33] <mike12> im in my bios
[23:33] <Anonynimity> change your first boot option to hard drive.
[23:33] <BabsSeed> Jofironses: Symlinks are implemented by the filesystem
[23:33] <Anonynimity> then save changes and quit
[23:33] <Anonynimity> see if that doesn't help. :)
[23:33] <mike12> i have it like that i believe
[23:33] <mike12> http://imgur.com/a/bwcly
[23:33] <mike12> 3rd pic
[23:33] <subman> How do I renew a network connection after moving a machine from one place to another?
[23:33] <VassiliAr> i will try what anonymity said - i will add a password
[23:33] <VassiliAr> brb
[23:34] <Jofironses> BabsSeed: I'm sorry I meant, int symlink (__const char *__from, __const char *__to). Not symlinks in general
[23:34] <subman> How to change a static ip address is maybe a better question?\
[23:34] <Anonynimity> ok well then remove the network from boot order, and see what happens?
[23:34] <VassiliAr> i have added your suggestion bab too
[23:34] <Jofironses> BabsSeed: Still both might be the same. Which is what I don't know
[23:34] <VassiliAr> will try them later
[23:34] <james434> mike12: Do you have Secure Boot enabled in the BIOS or anything else that might interfere?
[23:34] <BabsSeed> Jofironses: Yes, symlink returns an int (I believe 0 is success), then accepts two inode references IIRC
[23:34] <mike12> cant remove it from the boot order, but you can disable network boot. Once I disable it, it no longer tries to boot from network, just says that OS not found
[23:35] <mike12> im looking in the BIOS now and I see Secure Boot enabled
[23:35] <subman> hello?
[23:35] <james434> mike12: Might try to disable it to see if it helps.
[23:35] <BabsSeed> mike12: OS not found suggests the install didn't finish successfully
[23:35] <Jofironses> BabsSeed: I'm going to take a peek at kernel.org
[23:35] <mike12> secure boot disable didn't help
[23:36] <subman> hello
[23:36] <BabsSeed> Jofironses: Should be in the ext4 code IIRC, been a while since I looked at that
[23:36] <Extreminador> how can i create a shotcut into the desktop with the enlightenment 17 ?
[23:36] <mike12> when I try to reinstall ubunut it asks me if I want to overwrite existing ubuntu
[23:36] <mike12> thats why i assumed it was installed fine
[23:36] <mike12> ill try reinstalling
[23:36] <Jofironses> BabsSeed: k
[23:36] <Extreminador> it's says that i don have permission
[23:36] <subman> Hello?
[23:36] <BabsSeed> mike12: Most likely your MBR or grub didnt install correctly.
[23:36] <BabsSeed> mike12: Do you have any USB disks or other hard drives plugged in?
[23:37] <mike12> nope
[23:37] <VassiliAr> i cannot change it anony
[23:37] <subman> Hello?
[23:37] <Ari-Yang> Extreminador, join #e for e17 related stuff like "creating shortcuts" etc.
[23:37] <Anonynimity> Extreminador have you tried running it as root?
[23:37] <subman> Can you at least see me?\
[23:37] <Extreminador> nop Anonynimity  not sure how can i do that, but i will join that channel
[23:37] <Extreminador> thanks Ari-Yang
[23:37] <apb1963_> I installed a file from the repos... found out it was old... downloaded and installed current sources, apt-get removed the package... and when I run it, it tries to run the old now removed binary.  How do I rehash it so it finds the new binary?
[23:37] <Ari-Yang> *nod*
[23:38] <Extreminador> Ari-Yang, there is no such channel in  this server grrr
[23:38] <Extreminador> sorry it's #e
[23:38] <Ari-Yang> ;/
[23:38] <james434> mike12: Did you install the 32-bit version?
[23:38] <mike12> no
[23:38] <Extreminador> i did try #e17 not #e only
[23:38] <Extreminador> there is yes thanks Ari-Yang
[23:38] <subman> Hello?
[23:39] <Flannel> Extreminador: #e exists, I just joined it.
[23:39] <subman> Ok, someone just say hi
[23:39] <james434> mike12: If the reinstall doesn't work, then I would try the suggestions on this page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI
[23:40] <mike12> ill give that a shot thx
[23:40] <Jofironses> BabsSeed: Just found static int ext4_symlink(struct inode *dir,...) do you think that might be it?
[23:40] <james434> subman: If you just restart, doesn't that change anything?
[23:40] <apb1963_> answer: hash -r   thanks.
[23:40] <Jofironses> BabsSeed: at fs/ext4/namei.c
[23:41] <Extreminador> Flannel, yup, because at first i try #e17 and not only 3e (like i said before)
[23:41] <wilee-nilee> mike12, Another link worth looking at. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2147295
[23:41] <subman> james434, no
[23:41] <mike12> Mikok
[23:41] <wilee-nilee> subman, no, lol. ;)
[23:41] <james434> subman: Which version of Ubuntu are you using?
[23:42] <subman> james434, 13.04
[23:42] <blkdg> hello, I am using ubuntu 10.10, and i cannot install mupen64plus from it's repo. I tried installing it from apt-get, but it does not work. the error is dlopen('/usr/local/lib/libmupen64plus.so.2') failed: /lib/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.14' not found (required by /usr/local/lib/libmupen64plus.so.2)
[23:42] <subman> james434, server
[23:42] <Anonynimity> then install glibc-2.14 @ blkdg
[23:42] <wilee-nilee> blkdg, 10.10 is end of life you don't have access to the manin repos.
[23:42] <wilee-nilee> main*
[23:43] <blkdg> wilee-nilee, I am comming to understand that.
[23:43] <subman> So reinstall?
[23:43] <james434> subman: I've had issues with network where both Windows and Ubuntu are used, because Windows doesn't free up the resource. Is it a dual boot machine by any chance?
[23:43] <james434> *networks
[23:43] <subman> james434, no
[23:43] <blkdg> Anonynimity, can i get glibc 2.14 from apt-get?
[23:44] <Anonynimity> idk. I haven't used 10.10 in a long time
[23:44] <Anonynimity> I'm on 13.04
[23:44] <wilee-nilee> blkdg, We can help you get to a supported version if you like.
[23:45] <james434> subman: Have you tried this? http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-release-and-renew-a-dhcp-ip-address-in-ubuntu-10-04-lucid9-10-karmic9-04jaunty.html
[23:45] <james434> Should work for 13.04 I think.
[23:45] <Anonynimity> bye guys.
[23:45] <blkdg> wilee-nilee, backup, download latest iso , make disk and install?
[23:45] <Anonynimity> note: ifconfig has been replaced by iwconfig in 12.04 +
[23:46] <wilee-nilee> blkdg, That is the easiest and most reliable, yeah.
[23:46] <blkdg> wilee-nilee, thought so. just wanted to try the emulator though...
[23:47] <blkdg> thanks again.
[23:49] <nullsign> ubuntu 12.04 networking question: trying to setup a pair of bonded nics (eth0/1 = bond0) (eth2/3 = bond1), my interfaces file is right, my /etc/modules lists bonding, i reboot and get a IP bound to only bond0, bond1 is missing entirely, when i cat /proc/net/bonding/bond0 i see both parts as "Mii STatus down"... this worked fine before i went to bond the NICs...
[23:49] <nullsign> nics are broadcom.
[23:49] <nullsign> default ubuntu install 12.04
[23:50] <nullsign> bond0 can ping itself, but nothing else, not the gateway, etc.
[23:50] <ese> Hello i create a new thread in Ubuntuforums in hope someone knows how to fix my problem with sound: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2170099 thank you all
[23:52] <lgc> Hi. How can I enable the swap partition permanently?
[23:52] <Jofironses> lgc: fstab
[23:52] <randomiser> What do you mean pernanently ?
[23:53] <Jofironses> lgc: example entry in your /etc/fstab UUID=c69df4d3-4d56-44bc-a949-93fd8bee058f none                  swap    sw                     0 0
[23:53] <lgc> randomiser: To enable it every time the system boots.
[23:53] <randomiser> That looks good to me unless you're talking about hibernation or similar
[23:54] <Jofironses> you could substitute uuid=... for your path to your swap
[23:54] <james434> Jofironses: Is it safe to disable swap, though? I guess you could also change the swappiness value...
[23:54] <randomiser> Anyone here know about samba4 problems ?
[23:54] <lgc> Jofironses: What's the command to obtain the uuid from a partition?
[23:54] <Jofironses> james434: I guess it depends  on the memory
[23:54] <randomiser> To obtain uuid use blkid
[23:54] <Jofironses> james434: depends on how much you've got
[23:55] <lgc> randomiser: what looks good to you?
[23:55] <Jofironses> lgc: you could check /dev/disk/by-uuid
[23:55] <mike12> after trying to reinstall ubuntu, it asks me to restart then this happens: http://i.imgur.com/5a3G1Uw.jpg   - and then nothing happens
[23:55] <randomiser> Diabling swap is OK in the whort term, longer term you'll see a slowdown as the block cache is impacted
[23:55] <lgc> Jofironses: I will, thanks.
[23:56] <randomiser> lgc: example entry in your /etc/fstab UUID=c69df4d3-4d56-44bc-a949-93fd8bee058f none                  swap    sw                     0 0
[23:56] <lgc> randomiser: OK.
[23:56] <OerHeks> randomiser, samba 4 is not yet available in the repo's.
[23:56] <randomiser> Re: Samba4 I can see it and install it -
[23:56] <Jofironses> lgc: Though do make sure you get the UUID for your swap and not your partition
[23:56] <james434> mike12: Did you check with the LiveCD that the hard drive's health status is OK?
[23:57] <randomiser> Re: samba4: this is a clean 1304 server install
[23:57] <mike12> james434: actually i just had to hit a key and it rebooted fine...im in ubuntu now yay
[23:57] <lgc> Jofironses: I don't think I understand. You mean the uuid for the swap partition, don't you?
[23:57] <Jofironses> lgc: Correct
[23:58] <OerHeks> randomiser, not here, 3.6.9 sorry.
[23:59] <lgc> Jofironses: The swap partition is not on the /dev/disk/by-uuid directory.
[23:59] <Jofironses> lgc: just use your path then
[23:59] <Jofironses> from lsblk
[23:59] <chris310> Hello, I was just wondering if someone could help me with finding a Macro Mouse Recorder.