[02:02] <TDChief> Hey everyone, I'm having a bit of trouble installing LXLE on an old (2007) laptop - it seems to be freezing at 'parsing digital output script table'. I'm a first time Linux user, so any help would be appreciated
[02:06] <holstein> TDChief: try lubuntu
[04:59] <bioterror> nice wallpapers that LXLE has
[06:54] <jared> I never understood LXLE - it seems like just fragmentation for fragmentation's sake.
[10:09] <TheSchaf> hi! so i want to stop lightdm and then launch some application with xinit. if i just make a sh script with "stop lightdm, xinit ..." all i get is a black screen with a blinking caret... however when i stop lightdm first and then go to ctrl+alt+f1 and do the xinit from there it works fine. any ideas how i can make my script work?
[10:11] <bioterror> dont start lightdm and use .xinitrc for example
[10:11] <bioterror> and make your system boot directly to the text mode
[10:12] <TheSchaf> mhh but i'm using lightdm as some kind of launcher :)
[10:12] <TheSchaf> so i guess i have to create a real launcher, thx
[10:12] <bioterror> I remember when the lightdm was coming
[10:12] <bioterror> and there was some problems with it, so I booted myself into the text mode and then used .xinitrc
[10:13] <bioterror> worked like a charm
[10:13] <TheSchaf> so how do i boot to text mode? :D
[10:13] <bioterror> add to boot line "text"
[10:14] <TheSchaf> ah, boot option, ok
[10:14] <bioterror> yeah
[10:14] <bioterror> init=/bin/blaablaa text
[10:18] <TheSchaf> i'll try, thanks
[10:18] <TheSchaf> first i have to make a loader now :)
[10:23] <voyager> which of these apps is lightweight and which do you recommend will work well with Lubuntu? thanks http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiling_window_manager#Third_party_tiling_applications_on_Xorg
[10:37] <voyager> can anyone on here help?
[10:39] <bioterror> why not just use tiling wm then?
[10:42] <voyager> lubuntu will no longer support me if i do
[10:48] <bioterror> it's all about decissions
[10:49] <Ashif> hi
[10:50] <Ashif> how can i become a member in lubuntu
[10:50] <bioterror> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/GettingInvolved
[14:14] <TheSchaf> how can i setup lubuntu to not start lightdm but to auto-login and auto run some script (with sudo?) :)
[14:30] <TheSchaf> nvm, managed it :)
[17:54] <really> does anyone on this channel help?
[17:54] <bioterror> no
[17:54] <bioterror> we just idle
[17:54] <bioterror> but you can tell us your problem
[17:55] <bioterror> we might help if we know a solution
[17:55] <bioterror> it's always worth to ask
[17:55] <bioterror> last time I checked, it only costs time :D
[18:03] <really> is the windows key used for anything in lubuntu?
[18:04] <bioterror> it's called super
[18:04] <bioterror> you can bind it to open terminals and browsers
[18:04] <really> how do you bind
[18:04] <bioterror> with lubuntu-rc.xml file
[18:05] <really> what's the command for that thanks
[18:05] <bioterror> http://www.lubuntutips.com/2012/05/lubuntu-hotkeys-keybindings.html
[18:05] <bioterror> ps
[18:05] <bioterror> do not "sudo leafpad"
[18:05] <bioterror> !sudo
[18:06] <bioterror> Unit193, what was the command to explain why sudo was bad with GUI editor, and escpecially with stuff inside your home folder :D
[18:07] <really> what is the command to set a program to autostart
[18:08] <bioterror> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Boot_Install_Login#How_I_can_autostart_a_program_when_logging_into_Desktop
[18:18] <really> omg
[18:19] <really> why is there not a simple gui to add a new autostart program just like Ubuntu or Mint?
[18:20] <bioterror> becouse you have not coded it yet
[18:21] <really> Lubuntu is over 5 years old, do the developers just get the latest LXDE and Ubuntu package it together and nothing else?
[18:22] <phillw> the lubuntu developers are the lxde developers :)
[18:22] <bioterror> really, you got it almost right
[18:22] <bioterror> they just update the packages when they can from flying around the glove in expense of canonical
[18:22] <phillw> it was close enough as an easy explanation :)
[18:22] <bioterror> the globe
[18:23] <really> how often is LXDE updated anyways? isn't there just 1 developer developing LXDE?
[18:23] <really> i can't believe i always promote Lubuntu lol
[18:23] <really> an OS is suppose to make things easier to do
[18:23] <bioterror> what's so difficult?
[18:24] <bioterror> I find it more difficult to touch mouse than type one command with keyboard
[18:24] <really> you need to code things to make changes
[18:24] <bioterror> I have to lift my hand and grab the mouse
[18:24] <bioterror> then move it around
[18:24] <really> if that was the case people who use computers in the world will just be using terminals
[18:25] <bioterror> then everybody would be as cool as the matrix movie is
[18:27] <really> if i am autostarting a python command in the autostart config file do i put @python2.7 /...filelocation/asd.py -d
[18:29] <bioterror> I would make a file into /usr/local/bin/ and execute it
[18:29] <bioterror> like /usr/local/bin/fooobar
[18:29] <bioterror> it would contain the line to execute that python comand or something like that
[18:29] <bioterror> and then chmod +x /usr/local/bin/fooobar
[18:30] <bioterror> and now you have a command to execute on startup
[18:30] <bioterror> but that's just me
[18:30] <bioterror> I'm a guy who uses cat and then |less
[18:30] <really> oh so does " @python2.7 /...filelocation/asd.py -d" work also?
[18:30] <bioterror> try
[18:31] <really> lol
[18:38] <really> yeah, its about time lubuntu develop a simple GUI  to add new startup programs
[18:38] <really> they can just easily take it from any popular distro like ubuntu or mint
[18:40] <really> do developers even listen to user concerns or they will just do what they feel like doing, which isn't much lol
[18:40] <really> honestly, does anyone on this channel have close contact with Lubuntu developers?
[18:42] <bioterror> did you just come here to rant about things?
[18:42] <really> bioterror, do you use lubuntu?
[18:42] <bioterror> nope, I'm just using Windows 7
[18:42] <bioterror> I can just drag and drop to "autostart"
[18:43] <really> yeah, windows 7 is actually a good OS and i have i set to default on dual boot mainly for gaming, but i have security and privacy concerns about it
[18:44] <bioterror> me too. I just installed flux thingie for the display and mystical shortcuts appeared on my desktop
[18:45] <really> there are a lot of good third party apps for Windows
[18:46] <really> not a lot of app developers develop of Linux because new releases tend to "break" the apps
[18:46] <really> for*
[18:47] <really> linux desktop is only good for the basics
[18:48] <bioterror> we could continue this discussion on #lubuntu-offtopic
[18:48] <really> sure
[18:48] <bioterror> this channel is mainly for problem solving
[18:49] <really> btw, if you contact the developers i highly recommend they include a new lightweight app in their new release
[18:49] <bioterror> well
[18:49] <really> an app called QuickTile, which is lightweight since it does not use compiz
[18:49] <bioterror> you can suggest these things about week or two after the release
[18:49] <bioterror> when they start brainstorming the next release
[18:50] <really> well you seem more knolwedgeable about how releases work and such, so i'll leave that to you
[18:50] <bioterror> do not leave it to me
[18:50] <bioterror> I might come and go, you never know :D
[18:51] <bioterror> and I'm not a fan of tiling wm's
[18:51] <really> trust me you should install QuickTile yourself it makes life easier
[18:51] <bioterror> does it work like windows has windows key + arrow keys?
[18:51] <really> you don't need to use the mouse to resize your windows
[18:51] <really> yeah similar
[19:01] <bioterror> I decided to grab a saucy iso
[19:34] <bioterror> seems like the installer doesnt like if I do /dev/sda1 into swap and /dev/sda5 into / with brtfs
[19:34] <bioterror> I should have used cfdisk
[20:12] <katkisson> I like the idea of clonezilla to back up data. Is there a way to know how many MB my system has on it right now?
[20:12] <bioterror> df -h
[20:12] <katkisson> thanks!
[20:16] <katkisson_> So, does   /dev/sdal   tell the whole MB amount for the system?
[20:16] <katkisson_> I went to df -h
[20:16] <bioterror> yes if you have one partition
[20:16] <bioterror> it would be /
[20:16] <bioterror> if you have more partitions, then you have to use your math skills
[20:17] <katkisson_> When I downloaded Lubuntu, I had them use it all. Does that mean one partition?
[20:40] <ganjika> how may i establish a high contrast color resolution?