| ChrisMorgan | The latest updates have changed the keyboard input stuff significantly; I had Caps Lock mapped to Backspace with the old scheme, but the new UI doesn't seem to expose any way of achieving the same result. How can I do it? | 09:54 |
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| ChrisMorgan | Hang on... when I started a terminal, Caps Lock started acting as Backspace again. | 10:00 |
| ChrisMorgan | How could I figure out why that happens, and how to make it happen earlier? | 10:02 |
| ChrisMorgan | It's clearly not the same as it was, though, as holding down Caps Lock only triggers one backspace. | 10:08 |
| ChrisMorgan | And ``xmodmap -e 'remove lock = 0x42'`` (because xmodmap is showing "lock Caps_Lock (0x42)") fixes up that problem, so that it then *does* repeat as backspace... but this isn't a stable solution. | 10:11 |
| theadmin | Hi. I'm trying to follow the Chromium vs Firefox as 13.10 default discussion but can't quite keep up, what's the current situation? | 10:48 |
| BluesKaj | Howdy all | 12:17 |
| penguin42 | Hey BK | 12:32 |
| BluesKaj | Hi penguin42 | 12:34 |
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| scotty^ | Can someone please do me a favour and have a look at Evince in Saucy. I have heard the zoom control has been overhauled. What is the maximum zoom level nowdays? | 15:22 |
| * penguin42 checks | 15:27 | |
| penguin42 | scotty^: Somewhere around 400% | 15:28 |
| penguin42 | hmm no, it's more complex | 15:28 |
| penguin42 | scotty^: The largest on the clicky is 400%, you can type in arbitrary %'s but it won't always obey them | 15:29 |
| penguin42 | scotty^: I'd say the max is 434.19% (!) | 15:30 |
| scotty^ | hmm | 15:30 |
| scotty^ | I'd heard about being able to type in a custom zoom level, but 434.19% is not much of an improvement on the 400% available in previous versions | 15:31 |
| penguin42 | hmm, the 434 is different on different docs - I'm wondering if it's a max diff | 15:31 |
| scotty^ | It doesn't always obey what you typed in, you say? | 15:31 |
| penguin42 | scotty^: Yeh it limits it to something - I've just not figured out what to | 15:31 |
| scotty^ | hmm | 15:32 |
| penguin42 | scotty^: I'm gbetting it's a maximum dimension | 15:32 |
| penguin42 | Okular's limit seems to be 1600% | 15:33 |
| scotty^ | Can I run that on standard Ubuntu with Unity? | 15:33 |
| penguin42 | yes | 15:33 |
| scotty^ | Cool. I'll check it out. Thanks. | 15:35 |
| dupondje | Saucy is getting more unable every day :( | 18:33 |
| BluesKaj | unable ? | 18:35 |
| BluesKaj | dupondje, I'm on kubuntu and don't see that at all , almost the opposite , seems more stable everyday | 18:36 |
| dupondje | almost everyday, complete lock of my graphical interface | 18:41 |
| dupondje | strange | 18:41 |
| dupondje | restarting lightdm fixes it then | 18:41 |
| IdleOne | probably has to do with graphic drivers | 18:42 |
| penguin42 | probably important stuff to watch out for at the moment for any Mir-iness | 18:43 |
| BluesKaj | yeah , nice to be on KDE and and a solid Xserver | 18:45 |
| BluesKaj | I'm afraid canonical is leading a lot of users down the road to anger and frustration with likes of Mir ...I hope Mir works out for them. | 18:48 |
| dlynch | is there a command or code snippet to determine the automount location that will work on different distros, older and newer? | 18:51 |
| BluesKaj | dlynch, mount ? | 19:23 |
| dlynch | BluesKaj, I need something that tells me where a plugin device will be mounted, i.e. one of /media , /media/username, or /run/media/username | 19:25 |
| BluesKaj | dlynch, afaik normally it's /media/nameofdevice and it should show up in the filemanager places | 19:28 |
| dlynch | BluesKaj, historically yes, but not anymore and it's not consistent between distros :( | 19:28 |
| BluesKaj | dlynch, on KDE it's still the same , shows up in dolphin | 19:29 |
| dlynch | redhat changed the udisks2 behavior | 19:30 |
| dlynch | that's why it's changed | 19:30 |
| BluesKaj | i wouldn't know about RH , this is 'buntu 13.10 support | 19:31 |
| ChogyDan | dlynch: you can use fstab to set the location, but for me, a few releases ago, it changed from /media/mountpoint, to /media/<user name>/mountpoint | 19:34 |
| dlynch | ChogyDan, actually I'm the developer of a python program that needs to work cross distro and while I can hack some code that will account for the various distros, it would be nice to be able to call a command that simply reports the default location! | 19:35 |
| ChogyDan | dlynch: hmm, yeah, I dunno. Trying to predict that... | 19:36 |
| dlynch | ChogyDan, I'm sure RedHat had their reasons for the change, but I can only assume that there would be a standard way to figure this out from the command line | 19:38 |
| BluesKaj | dlynch, ls /media/username seems to work here | 19:40 |
| BluesKaj | altho one external drive uses it;s fstab assigned uuid | 19:42 |
| penguin42 | it does kind of make sense | 20:02 |
| penguin42 | given that the perms of the device are set by the person logged in on the console, so if you have multiple people logged in then it gets a bit confusing | 20:02 |
| FernandoMiguel | hi | 20:55 |
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| ChogyDan | so, I upgraded just because the saucy kernel had a fix for my webcam. I'm running into bugs. Should I report them? I feel like I should wait till the beta before I bother | 22:37 |
| IdleOne | reporting bugs as early as possible would be more helpful | 22:37 |
| k1l_ | if you report the bugs there is a chance that it gets fixed. if no one knows that something is broken, no one will fix it | 22:38 |
| IdleOne | right now it might just be a little thing, if you wait it could turn into something more complicated | 22:38 |
| ChogyDan | ok, if you guys think so, I can. In the past, many bugs have worked themselves out, but my report wasn't touched... | 22:38 |
| penguin42 | ChogyDan: Yeh also possible; can you describe the bugs? | 22:39 |
| ChogyDan | well, right now, it is a random wpa_supplicant crash | 22:39 |
| wilee-nilee | ChogyDan, Having a upgrade has its own problems I would do a check on a live cd or even install it to check. | 22:39 |
| wilee-nilee | can have problems that is | 22:39 |
| ChogyDan | wilee-nilee: yeah, that's true, but am I wrong to want to wait till the beta for that extra work? Sorry if I'm being... lax and lazy. | 22:40 |
| wilee-nilee | ChogyDan, wrong is a personal decision in if it is. IT really depends on the hassle's you want to experience. | 22:42 |
| wilee-nilee | If it were me I would do a frsh install alongside or in a vm and check it out, but I do this all the time, I alwyas fresh install. | 22:43 |
| ChogyDan | actually, I forgot, I didn't find installable isos of 13.10 | 22:44 |
| wilee-nilee | ChogyDan there are daily's | 22:46 |
| wilee-nilee | http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/ | 22:47 |
| wilee-nilee | ChogyDan, And you can rsync them if needed. | 22:47 |
| ChogyDan | wilee-nilee: so do you just test them out in a vm first? I tried a daily last week, and it failed to boot | 22:49 |
| ChogyDan | i mean, I guess I obviously should | 22:49 |
| ChogyDan | !zsync | 22:49 |
| ubottu | Use zsync to update your Ubuntu CD image without needing to download the parts that didn't change. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ZsyncCdImage | 22:49 |
| wilee-nilee | ChogyDan, Being lazy is okay, I'm a slacker from way back, but I make sure my slacking is covered with thought through methodology, I want to really slack, ;) | 22:54 |
| wilee-nilee | not saying your lazy just it can be done with some thought. ;) | 22:55 |
| penguin42 | ChogyDan: I normally try stuff in vms first; but you do get bugs that affect VMs but not real machines and the other way | 22:55 |
| ChogyDan | :) | 22:55 |
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