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AlanBellhi all18:01
AlanBell#startmeeting IRC team18:02
meetingologyMeeting started Sun Aug 25 18:02:23 2013 UTC.  The chair is AlanBell. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.18:02
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AlanBellhi, who is here for the IRC team meeting?18:02
Flannelo/18:03
ikoniaI'm certainly watching18:03
AlanBellPici: Tm_T: funkyHat: o/18:04
Tm_Thi18:05
Tm_Tonly partially available, sorry18:06
AlanBellok18:06
AlanBellagain, not a heap of stuff on the agenda18:06
AlanBell#topic Review last meetings action items18:06
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IdleOneo/18:07
AlanBelllast meeting was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs/IRCC/20130630 and no actions recorded18:07
AlanBellbut I never got round to doing a list of things the bots say18:08
AlanBellanyhow, lets move on and come back to new actions because I can think of a few things we need to do18:09
AlanBell#topic Open items in the IRCC tracker18:09
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AlanBellnone in the tracker, there have been no recent formal appeals18:09
AlanBell#topic Review Bugs related to the Ubuntu IRC Council18:09
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AlanBellno new bugs filed18:09
AlanBell#topic Membership applications18:10
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AlanBellwe have no new membership applications18:10
AlanBell#topic Any Other Business18:10
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AlanBellgosh that was quick :)18:10
bazhangnot m4v ?18:10
IdleOnem4v was finnaly approved18:10
AlanBellm4v is a member now, was approved a few months ago18:10
bazhangalright18:10
IdleOnelittle while ago18:10
AlanBellcloak and everything :)18:10
IdleOne there have been no recent formal appeals ?18:11
AlanBellindeed, there have not18:11
IdleOneThis confuses me18:11
IdleOnewhat exactly constitutes a formal appeal?18:11
AlanBellsomeone sending us an email with the details of what they want to appeal about18:12
IdleOneI see18:12
IdleOneSo joining the council channel and making a complaint does not count?18:13
AlanBellthere have been some discussions with users where we have advised them of how to appeal and we let them talk if they want to say their piece18:13
AlanBellanyone can pop in to the #ubuntu-irc-council for a chat at any time, but an appeal is by email18:14
Tm_TAlanBell: does appeal process say that?18:14
IdleOneit should if not18:15
ikoniaif you follow the process it says you should email the council on the list after discussing it with the ops18:15
IdleOneI haven't read it recently but I recall it saying they can also join the ircc channel. It should be made clear if not18:16
AlanBellhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/AppealProcess18:16
AlanBellthere is a bit of an OR in there18:16
IdleOnethere is an either or18:17
IdleOneI suggest it be cleared up18:17
DJonesOn the basis that the purpose of #ubuntu-irc-council has never been explained to me since I was accepted as an op in #ubuntu, what is its purpose? is it a a private channel with no idling or something that #ubuntu* ops should be aware of?18:18
AlanBellso yes, if people pop in to the channel we do try and sort out what the problem is, but I was generally counting emails as formal appeals18:18
AlanBellthe channel is very rarely used, it is handy if we want to discuss something with someone so that all the council can see discussions rather than having private messages with us as individuals18:19
IdleOneI am fine with making it email if you want this to be a formal complaint OR join the channel if you want to alert the council to something without it being a huge deal type thing18:19
AlanBellyeah, that might be good to clarify in the documentation18:23
IdleOneAlanBell: only because some of us were under the impression there had been a formal complaint made against some of the ops.18:24
IdleOneleast that is what we were told.18:25
IdleOneGood to know we can continue to abuse our powers without consequence :)18:25
IdleOnethat was a joke, just in case nobody got it.18:26
AlanBell /kick IdleOne18:26
Tm_TIdleOne: this is serious business, we don't understand humout18:28
Tm_Tr18:28
bazhanghummus is welcome though18:28
AlanBellhmm, something weird going on with my connection :(18:28
IdleOneTm_T: plz2email for formal complaint. kthx18:29
bazhangfalafel not included18:29
Tm_Tdone18:29
AlanBellok, so from that18:31
AlanBell#action ircc to discuss and clarify what constitutes a formal complaint18:31
meetingologyACTION: ircc to discuss and clarify what constitutes a formal complaint18:31
AlanBellis there any other other business?18:31
FlannelAlanBell: You said you had things earlier (at :09)18:32
AlanBellyup, just we need to do a round of cloak audits for people who are expired or whatever18:33
FlannelWell, that's not very exciting at all.  What are we paying you for?18:34
AlanBell#action AlanBell to make a list of cloaks to remove as per https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Cloaks18:34
meetingologyACTION: AlanBell to make a list of cloaks to remove as per https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Cloaks18:34
AlanBelland the other thing to mention is that we had a catchup meeting with the CC about a month ago, I will try and find the logs to link18:36
AlanBellhttp://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2013/ubuntu-meeting.2013-08-01-17.00.log.html#l-8118:36
AlanBellok, anything else to add?18:37
AlanBelllets wrap it up there then18:37
AlanBell#endmeeting18:37
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meetingologyMeeting ended Sun Aug 25 18:38:18 2013 UTC.18:37
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AlanBellthanks everyone18:38
ikoniaAlanBell: anything of note we should look at in the CC review ?18:38
IdleOnethank you18:38
cjohnston/2618:39
AlanBellikonia: not really, it was fairly brief18:39
AlanBelljust wanted to point to those logs in these logs really18:39
IdleOneBINGO18:40
IdleOneslowly getting BINGO in all my channels18:40
funkyHatwhat!19:12
funkyHatWhich timezone am I in? I thought 20:00 UTC was 40 minutes from now!19:18
bazhang@now UTC19:18
meetingologybazhang: Error: "now" is not a valid command.19:18
ubottuCurrent time in Etc/UTC: August 25 2013, 19:19:1819:18
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