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AskUbuntu | Where do I download the Ubuntu touch Rom? | http://askubuntu.com/q/336876 | 00:19 |
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mhall119 | Aaron1011: cdimage-touch are device images provided by Canonical, community are device images provided by others | 01:26 |
Aaron1011 | mhall119: Thanks! | 02:08 |
akuler | how to install ubuntu touch on galaxy tab 2 10.1 | 02:19 |
jram0421 | how do i join the core apps dev team | 03:02 |
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jram0421 | um hello | 03:05 |
cjohnston | Start working on core apps? | 03:20 |
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RHAN | i think im lost.. | 05:00 |
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ShapeShifter499 | hi | 06:17 |
ShapeShifter499 | what happens to my current edits I made to my local copy of ubuntu touch if I run "repo sync" | 06:18 |
Cyberfarm | hey there | 09:14 |
Cyberfarm | is it really usable on the nexus 4? | 09:15 |
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Jppass01 | can anyone help me to install ubuntu on nexus 7 | 12:22 |
wellsb | Jppass01: What do you need help with? You follow these instructions? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install | 12:23 |
TKOn3 | Hello.Can you help me to install Ubuntu 12.10 on my tf300t ? | 12:57 |
TKOn3 | Hello.Can you help me to install Ubuntu 12.10 on my tf300t Unlocked and root? | 12:58 |
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markusN00b | Hi, it seems I am unable to make phone calls with my phone. I feel like I should update the Ubuntu Touch. (I already tried through "System Settings" without success) So what is the easiest way to update? | 13:44 |
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maximilian_ | markusN00b, just phablet-tools cdimage-touch -d mako, it seems this is what I do and it retains the user data. | 14:48 |
markusN00b | So you are able to make phone calls? | 14:50 |
markusN00b | I used phablet-tools without the -d option. It created a dir suggesting I already have the current version of touch | 14:50 |
markusN00b | $ ls Downloads/phablet-flash/ubuntu-touch/ | 14:51 |
markusN00b | > 20130821 | 14:51 |
maximilian_ | Am trying this version now. I think I had --pending in the command line and had a version from 24th august | 14:52 |
maximilian_ | or maybe an older version, not sure and now the phone is being reflashed so no way to know. | 14:53 |
BEC | Q: is it possible to run touch along side Android? | 14:54 |
maximilian_ | BEC, Nope, not yet. | 14:54 |
BEC | maximilian_, is it planned? | 14:55 |
BEC | I have a Motorola Xoom & can't wait to try it, though specs are not optimal as per site specs | 14:55 |
maximilian_ | That's what they said would be done for the Edge phone... No idea. | 14:55 |
BEC | aha; thanks :) | 14:55 |
maximilian_ | No need to be excited yet, the software is really not ready. | 14:55 |
marcinello | BEC, some users already did it on N7: http://barrenfrozenwasteland.com/2013/03/dual-booting-android-and-ubuntu-touch-on-the-nexus-7/ | 14:58 |
maximilian_ | markusN00b, phone flashed, user data still there, version used is from 21st. | 14:58 |
markusN00b | maximilian_ and calls? Can you put in your Sim card and use it? | 15:00 |
BEC | marcinello, thx | 15:01 |
maximilian_ | phone does not boot to Ubuntu Touch. Does a strange "squeek" sound and the display remains black... | 15:06 |
maximilian_ | Man, are the fonts small on the phone... it's flashing. | 15:24 |
maximilian_ | Black screen of death... | 15:26 |
maximilian_ | a reboot and all is fine again... and yes, it does phone calls. | 15:31 |
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Zackehh | Been trying to port to One S but can't get chroot access because ubuntu_chroot doesn't exist on the device, but it's in the zip output from the build - any ideas? | 16:17 |
HelenaKitty | Hello | 16:22 |
Zackehh | Hey | 16:22 |
HelenaKitty | I've been trying to install Ubuntu Touch onto the Nexus 7 but all the links I've found online are for Windows or use the Nexus Toolkit. I want to use fastboot/adb and I can't search anymore cause my computer is wayyy too slow so please could you PM me with instructions rather than giving me a link? thnx! | 16:24 |
Zackehh | You mean you don't have fastboot/adb access due to drivers? | 16:25 |
HelenaKitty | I have fastboot/adb access | 16:25 |
HelenaKitty | I already said I don't want the Nexus Toolkit and I don't use Windows. | 16:25 |
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AskUbuntu | Change SMSC (Short Message Service Centre) on ubuntu-touch | http://askubuntu.com/q/337124 | 16:33 |
HelenaKitty | http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-preinstalled/current/ gives a 404 error but I found it on this page. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Nexus7/Installation | 16:40 |
hio | hi, where can I order my ubuntu edge? | 16:42 |
hio | is ubuntu optimized for my ipod touch? | 16:44 |
maximilian_ | the ipod would be on the edge with ubuntu touch | 16:45 |
HelenaKitty | hio: Good luck getting Linux on apple hardware. lol | 16:46 |
hio | what do u mean? isnt apple the same as linux? | 16:46 |
HelenaKitty | WTF?! Guys please give me the right link for the img files for the grouper ubuntu touch 13 image! | 16:47 |
HelenaKitty | hio: No | 16:47 |
hio | apple has a linux kernel | 16:47 |
hio | its based on some old linux thing | 16:48 |
HelenaKitty | and Apple don't support Linux. No they don't, they have a BSD kernel. | 16:48 |
hio | yeah right, BSD is linux | 16:48 |
HelenaKitty | No it's NOT, it's Unix! | 16:48 |
hio | uh | 16:49 |
hio | i always thought unix was just how stupid people spelled linux Oo | 16:49 |
HelenaKitty | and either way... Apple don't support UNIX as a whole, they support Mac OS, they don't support BSD, Linux, Unix, Minix, whatever therefore their drivers will ONLY run on Mac OS. | 16:49 |
HelenaKitty | Unix is a family. | 16:50 |
hio | we can just ask apple to support us, open a support ticket or something. they have reallly good apple care, that one time they fixed my broken screen for free | 16:50 |
HelenaKitty | Linux and BSD are kernels within the family. OpenBSD, NetBSD are part of the BSD family and Ubuntu and Debian are part of the Linux Family. | 16:50 |
HelenaKitty | Apple will only support if you're a mulimillianaire and willing to pay a gigantic fee. | 16:51 |
HelenaKitty | This is Ubuntu support and we're getting offtopic. | 16:51 |
hio | that shuttleworth guy is rich right? he should pay for it | 16:51 |
hio | yeah I just wanted an ubuntu edge | 16:52 |
HelenaKitty | If you want to put Ubuntu onto a device the best option is to buy an Android device. | 16:52 |
HelenaKitty | Do NOT go for any ARM device! Going for an iPod wont work, going for a Blackberry wont work. | 16:53 |
hio | i have a samsung ativ s with windows phone 8. | 16:53 |
HelenaKitty | Going for a Nexus device or an Xperia device or even a Huaweii phone will work | 16:53 |
HelenaKitty | hio: It wont work. | 16:54 |
hio | but i wont be able to phone ppl? | 16:54 |
HelenaKitty | Ubuntu Touch are trying to support the phone hio | 16:54 |
HelenaKitty | Ubuntu Touch was MADE for phones. | 16:54 |
HelenaKitty | Meaning it will eventually support Cellular and you will be able to use it like a phone. | 16:55 |
hio | damn but i already ordered the samsung ativ s | 16:55 |
hio | OH OK, so it doesnt work now | 16:55 |
HelenaKitty | Infact I have already seen the Phone and MS apps. | 16:55 |
hio | what phone | 16:55 |
HelenaKitty | What? | 16:55 |
hio | what phone have u seen | 16:56 |
HelenaKitty | It should work with any phone on the Ubuntu Touch compatibility list. I think I saw a list at http://touch.ubuntu.com/ | 16:56 |
hio | says it cant find the website | 16:57 |
HelenaKitty | I think it's http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch | 16:58 |
hio | HelenaKitty, thanks for the help. I have to admit something though | 16:59 |
hio | I'm actually an Opensuse user and I hate ubuntu and would never use it anywhere | 16:59 |
HelenaKitty | I'm not keen on Ubuntu but I want to get rid of Android on my Nexus 7. I'm going to strip the Touch image down and make it somthing minimal. | 17:00 |
hio | hm thats a surprise and a good idea | 17:00 |
hio | but by the time ubuntu will have a working smartphone version, opensuse will have one too | 17:01 |
hio | or gnome | 17:01 |
HelenaKitty | Lol I think I just created a brick | 17:03 |
markusN00b | maximilian_ : I had to disable my PIN. Now I can phone and SMS right away with ubuntu touch. | 17:04 |
markusN00b | jippie | 17:04 |
HelenaKitty | Right pls can someone now tell me where the bugger I find the grouper imgs?! o.o | 17:05 |
hio | markusN00b, what phone do you use | 17:05 |
markusN00b | nexus 4 | 17:05 |
hio | why is it still so expensivE? | 17:05 |
markusN00b | There are some on eBay for like 250 € | 17:06 |
HelenaKitty | Hello? | 17:15 |
HelenaKitty | How do I replace unity with mate? | 18:12 |
HelenaKitty | Yes I want to use mate on a tablet. | 18:12 |
HelenaKitty | You know I am regretting this switch to Ubuntu Touch cause I can't even do what i want with it. | 18:15 |
HelenaKitty | I expected to be able to do more with it than I can do with Android. | 18:15 |
markusN00b | HelenaKitty: You can not expect this. Touch is not alpha, not beta, not final. It is developer! | 18:35 |
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cetkat | would porting to tegra 2 devices (like the samsung captivate glide) be possible? They don't have NEON so I was wondering | 20:27 |
BamDastard | anyone have any info on an installable Ubuntu Touch img for the Asus Transformer Infinity TF700T? | 20:49 |
BamDastard | XDA has a couple of threads but they are not functional | 20:50 |
BamDastard | and not touch | 20:50 |
crypticmofo | hi guys .. im wondering if you can help .. im really anxious about ubuntu-touch for android devices .. since cdma devices aren't ready do you guys know of anything that can simulate this .. i know of glovebox and unity launcher but they stil force me to go to the home screen then try something else .. i want to be able to use a side launcher / or something on the right thats linux | 21:29 |
crypticmofo | ubuntu-touch | 21:29 |
crypticmofo | any ideas ? | 21:29 |
popey | crypticmofo: might be better dropping by during European working day when people are awake / working | 21:32 |
crypticmofo | aw | 21:32 |
crypticmofo | man .. i swear | 21:32 |
crypticmofo | when i saw chanocial or however you say it come out with the first video about the new launcher / phone design | 21:33 |
crypticmofo | i was smitten | 21:33 |
crypticmofo | like when you see a fine women and your like holy shit!!!@#@!# | 21:33 |
mousepie | hello | 21:34 |
mousepie | hows every-body doing | 21:35 |
crypticmofo | mousepie dying inside until cdma devices have a working build | 21:35 |
crypticmofo | :D | 21:35 |
mousepie | hehe yeah glad im not on that train anymore altho sometimes i wish i was | 21:35 |
crypticmofo | heh | 21:36 |
crypticmofo | mousepie why aren't you on the train ? | 21:36 |
crypticmofo | mousepie you have a gsm i gather ? | 21:36 |
mousepie | t-mobile sucks where im at EDGE everywhere i go =( | 21:36 |
mousepie | yes nexus 4 | 21:36 |
crypticmofo | aw | 21:36 |
crypticmofo | mousepie so you have a full os ubuntu-touch ? | 21:36 |
mousepie | yep this town suuucks | 21:36 |
mousepie | yup | 21:36 |
crypticmofo | yea but still | 21:36 |
crypticmofo | how is it as a daily driver ? | 21:36 |
crypticmofo | besides data | 21:37 |
mousepie | well im downloading augest 21st stable | 21:37 |
crypticmofo | aw | 21:37 |
mousepie | well theres no data working yet as far as i know | 21:37 |
popey | yes, data works | 21:37 |
crypticmofo | other then that i know it kills android / no more going to the home screen with a button .. you sype everything right ? | 21:37 |
popey | has worked for a long while now | 21:37 |
popey | if it doesn't then just "adb shell", "restart network-manager"! | 21:37 |
mousepie | skype? | 21:37 |
crypticmofo | if i could code i would be building / or support the cdma project of this | 21:38 |
popey | i thought the cdma problem was one of licensing | 21:38 |
mousepie | wait heres what im getting http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch/daily-preinstalled/current/ | 21:38 |
mousepie | so your saying i just update it anf data should be working or is that on the lastest build for today? | 21:38 |
crypticmofo | i didn't know that | 21:39 |
popey | I am running 20130822 and 20130823 on my devices | 21:39 |
popey | but yes, data should work | 21:39 |
popey | if it doesn't, restart network manager | 21:39 |
mousepie | oh weird | 21:39 |
popey | run nmcli d | 21:39 |
crypticmofo | so | 21:39 |
popey | /ril_0 gsm disconnected | 21:39 |
popey | you see that | 21:39 |
popey | restart network-manager | 21:40 |
crypticmofo | do i wait for a ubuntu device .. or get a used / referb nexus 4 / well it won't make a diff cause this POS CDMA! | 21:40 |
cetkat | can ubuntu touch be ported to devices without neon support (like tegra 2)? | 21:40 |
popey | then you see this... | 21:40 |
mousepie | as far as abd do i need to run it from my lappy? or from phone?> | 21:40 |
popey | /ril_0 gsm connecting (prepare) | 21:40 |
crypticmofo | life is sucking for me as far as phones | 21:40 |
popey | then this... | 21:40 |
popey | /ril_0 gsm connected | 21:40 |
popey | \o/ | 21:40 |
popey | rmnet_usb0 Link encap:UNSPEC HWaddr 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00 inet addr:10.54.142.144 Mask:255.255.255.252 | 21:40 |
popey | \o/ | 21:40 |
popey | mousepie: you can use the terminal on the phone | 21:40 |
popey | or you can use adb from laptop | 21:41 |
mousepie | ah ok sweet thanks | 21:41 |
popey | either way, just restart network-manager, wait ~10 seconds and you're done | 21:41 |
popey | np | 21:41 |
popey | its a known bug we're working on | 21:41 |
mousepie | its funny i know irssi iinstalls and works just fine in it lol | 21:41 |
popey | haha | 21:41 |
popey | irssi on the phone is fun ☻ | 21:41 |
crypticmofo | popey whats the point of life if CDMA is around!!!! | 21:41 |
mousepie | what is -touch coeded in btw | 21:42 |
popey | crypticmofo: never used CDMA, never plan to ☻ | 21:42 |
crypticmofo | lol | 21:42 |
popey | mousepie: qml mosly | 21:42 |
crypticmofo | i had to .. didn't pay att bill was a long crazy thing | 21:42 |
popey | I feel for you. | 21:42 |
mousepie | oh ok i see it there a way to get muiti tabs in the terminal ?> | 21:43 |
popey | i dont think that's implemented yet | 21:43 |
popey | it's on the wishlist | 21:43 |
mousepie_linux | yes well i \f i had the time i would love to help with the project | 21:45 |
mousepie_linux | but i work too much and only have sundays off | 21:46 |
mousepie_linux | blah | 21:46 |
crypticmofo | im watching this video on youtube its a comoparson of ubuntu touch and android .. this guy litterraly loves his ubuntu nexus and is ragging on android | 21:48 |
crypticmofo | lol | 21:48 |
crypticmofo | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7AydM7HpK0 | 21:48 |
crypticmofo | makes you fall in love all over again | 21:48 |
mousepie_linux | ive seen this yeah it really makes melove ubuntu altho i hate the desktop version........... | 21:54 |
mousepie_linux | gentoo ftw lol | 21:54 |
mousepie_linux | dont shun me ... | 21:54 |
dreamer_ | Good evening, could anybody tell me if ubintu is going to work on a samsung Note 2 5.5 inch touch screen | 21:56 |
mousepie_linux | eventuily yes | 21:57 |
popey | dreamer_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices - is it listed there? | 21:57 |
mousepie_linux | hh | 21:57 |
mousepie_linux | ha | 21:57 |
dreamer_ | no it isn't not is it> | 21:59 |
dreamer_ | i see people have make it boot | 22:00 |
dreamer_ | any idea or a weast of my time> | 22:02 |
mousepie_linux | someone has to make an image from what i understand | 22:03 |
crypticmofo | popey want to donate your device ? | 22:05 |
crypticmofo | :D | 22:05 |
crypticmofo | donate to the crypticmofo needs a ubuntu touch device so he can be happy foundation! | 22:05 |
dreamer_ | ok clear,.... https://github.com/drapalyuk/android_kernel_samsung_smdk4412 | 22:06 |
mousepie_linux | im broke other wise i would | 22:06 |
mousepie_linux | lol | 22:06 |
popey | crypticmofo: i think my employer might be cross with that | 22:07 |
dreamer_ | http://phablet.ubuntu.com/gitweb | 22:08 |
Anonynimity | Hello. I have a question... | 22:09 |
crypticmofo | lol | 22:10 |
Anonynimity | would anyone be able to help me port ubuntu-touch to a huawei fusion 2? | 22:10 |
Anonynimity | (the easy way) | 22:10 |
mousepie_linux | i would wait till it get out of dev then in to relise | 22:13 |
crypticmofo | guys | 22:13 |
crypticmofo | when they said the edge or the ubuntu stuff will come out this fall | 22:13 |
crypticmofo | we are close correct | 22:14 |
crypticmofo | sep / oct / nov ? | 22:14 |
crypticmofo | one of those months correct ^ | 22:14 |
popey | the software release will happen in sync with the ubuntu desktop release, at the end of october | 22:14 |
popey | devices will ship next year | 22:14 |
mousepie_linux | +1 ^ | 22:14 |
crypticmofo | popey i read some where that cdma devices will not be ready on the first go round .. that dosen't mean a dev can't hack something up and make it work correct ? | 22:15 |
crypticmofo | or am i wrong ? | 22:15 |
crypticmofo | if they do hack something up .. will it go to chanonical ? | 22:15 |
popey | indeed, we won't ship CDMA support in october | 22:16 |
popey | but if someone wants to work on that, great. | 22:16 |
crypticmofo | yea so what i meant was .. lets say somebody hacks up cdma and it works flawless .. will it just be on the ubuntu-touch list as a working device ? | 22:17 |
mousepie_linux | crypticmofo: ok i just got it booted but i dint have acces to the terminal | 22:17 |
Anonynimity | I have all the repos for the development... | 22:17 |
crypticmofo | mousepie_linux don't ask me ask somebody else lol im on cdma | 22:18 |
popey | Anonynimity: might be better asking during the european working day when devs are about | 22:18 |
mousepie_linux | oh oops lol | 22:18 |
Anonynimity | lol... | 22:18 |
mousepie_linux | forgot | 22:18 |
Anonynimity | well... I work all next week from 11-4p | 22:19 |
mousepie_linux | same here^ | 22:19 |
mousepie_linux | is anyone here thats runing ub-t? | 22:22 |
mousepie_linux | i think im going to flash a later img | 22:23 |
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mousepie_linux | yay linux | 23:06 |
davethefan | Hi! | 23:06 |
mousepie_linux | hello | 23:07 |
davethefan | Has anybody got Touch running on a Galaxy Note 1? | 23:07 |
mousepie_linux | not that i know of | 23:08 |
mousepie_linux | did you look at the wiki? | 23:09 |
davethefan | yeah, couldnt find anything :/ | 23:09 |
davethefan | i think ive found something, but when i run ' sudo fastboot oem unlock' it just sits and waits for the device and never finds it | 23:13 |
mousepie_linux | you runnint windows or linux | 23:17 |
mousepie_linux | davethefan: ? | 23:17 |
davethefan | linux; ubuntu | 23:18 |
mousepie_linux | sudo ./fastboot-linux linux oem-unlock | 23:18 |
mousepie_linux | try that | 23:18 |
mousepie_linux | i think its something like that you need the ./ in front of the fastboot | 23:19 |
davethefan | what directory do i run this from, because it cant find the command | 23:19 |
mousepie_linux | you need to be in the uhhhh 1 sec its been a whle | 23:20 |
mousepie_linux | while | 23:20 |
mousepie_linux | you need to cd in to platform-tools | 23:22 |
davethefan | right, i can grab that from the wiki right? | 23:23 |
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mousepie_linux | cd /home/UserName/Downloads/Nexus4Root/ then ./adb-linux oem unlock | 23:26 |
mousepie_linux | bam | 23:26 |
mousepie_linux | did you put your phoe in fast boot mode? | 23:27 |
davethefan | yeah its in fastboot mode | 23:28 |
mousepie_linux | ok | 23:29 |
mousepie_linux | then ./adb-linux oem unlock | 23:29 |
davethefan | i'm probably being dumb and missing something here, but where did you get Nexus4Root from? | 23:31 |
mousepie_linux | ok did you download the files in oder to root /? | 23:32 |
davethefan | i havent got them, no | 23:32 |
davethefan | that;d be a good start heh | 23:33 |
mousepie_linux | lol | 23:34 |
mousepie_linux | try this | 23:34 |
mousepie_linux | http://smart-phones-how-to.blogspot.com/2013/05/how-to-root-nexus-4-windowsmac.html | 23:34 |
davethefan | i'm not actually running a nexus, should i get the one specific to my phone? | 23:35 |
mousepie_linux | .... then what phone are you running | 23:36 |
crypticmofo | an iphone WTF! | 23:36 |
crypticmofo | lol | 23:37 |
wilee-nilee | !language | 23:37 |
ubot5 | Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional. | 23:37 |
davethefan | haha, not an iphone. A galaxy note. | 23:37 |
mousepie_linux | oh | 23:37 |
mousepie_linux | then i dont know if its the same as a nexus4 | 23:38 |
mousepie_linux | as far as unlicking goes | 23:38 |
mousepie_linux | locking | 23:38 |
davethefan | i would _assume_ all the adb tools would be more or less the same | 23:39 |
davethefan | but i should probably use the SGN unlocking tools really? | 23:39 |
mousepie_linux | not sure on that one | 23:40 |
davethefan | i'm about to find out | 23:41 |
mousepie_linux | ok good | 23:41 |
davethefan | i'm due for an upgrade, so shouldnt matter too much | 23:42 |
Bronze | hi, I'm looking at using an arm-based smart phone as a local file and email server. | 23:42 |
Bronze | would Ubuntu-touch work as a server? | 23:42 |
Bronze | a deadly silence ensues | 23:44 |
Bronze | clearly such an idea is sacrilege! | 23:45 |
wilee-nilee | Bronze, YOu could load saucy | 23:46 |
Bronze | wilee-nilee: saucy is another arm-based distro? | 23:46 |
wilee-nilee | Bronze 13.10 ubuntu | 23:47 |
wilee-nilee | part of the possibilities that are available | 23:47 |
Bronze | thanks | 23:47 |
Bronze | oh good Lord!. I tried to look up "saucy" AND "smart phone" ... Did not get what I expected..... | 23:48 |
RAOF | Bronze: Depending on what your after, either regular Ubuntu or Ubuntu Touch would work fine as a server. | 23:50 |
RAOF | Bronze: The full archive is available on Ubuntu Touch, so you can install whatever you want there. | 23:51 |
Bronze | excellent. | 23:51 |
RAOF | Ubuntu Touch will use the android kernel & drivers, so will be able to do things like use your mobile data connection. | 23:51 |
Bronze | the hard part is going to be soldering an ethernet jack onto the smart phone .................. [kidding] | 23:52 |
crypticmofo | i have a question about a d2vzw right .. according to the wiki •Device names in bold can be flashed by using phablet-flash community --device <vendor> (ie: i9100). .. does this mean i just find a new image with ubuntu touch on it and i can go a terminal and do a phablet-flash communit --d2vzw <ny vendorid) | 23:59 |
crypticmofo | or am i missing something ? | 23:59 |
crypticmofo | the d2vzw under the list of devices is bold | 23:59 |
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