[00:00] <Jofironses> lgc: If you still prefer UUID you could use gparted for that
[00:00] <randomiser> lgc: you can get the swap uuid by means of blkid
[00:00] <chris310> I know this isn't probably the best channel to ask.
[00:01] <james434> chris310: I think there's a program called xnee.
[00:01] <james434> I haven't used it myself, though.
[00:03] <randomiser> OerHeks:  Sorry, I'm confused - I see pkgs samba4, smab4-clients samba4-dev samba4-common-bin samba4-testsuite
[00:03] <Moseco> I have 2 drives, one with windows the other with ubuntu 13.04. I have grub installed and i have the ubuntu drive set first in the boot order. But if i let the computer start up on its own it boots windows. http://paste.ubuntu.com/6023178/
[00:06] <BabsSeed> Jofironses: Definitely looks like it
[00:07] <Jofironses> BabsSeed: k, Thanks! :)
[00:07] <james434> Moseco: Does grub show up before it boots to Windows?
[00:08] <Moseco> james434: No, only shows if if i manually boot ubuntu
[00:09]  * visualise pentests secured's box
[00:09] <visualise> (just to check)
[00:10] <VassiliAr> im having a problem compiling a program without root can anyone help me please? http://pastebin.com/neVQb7GY
[00:11] <lgc> Jofironses: randomiser I added the corresponding entry to /etc/fstab but it doesn't seem to mount. No error either.
[00:11]  * visualise pets ris
[00:11] <Jofironses> did you try using swapon?
[00:11] <james434> Moseco: If you physically disconnect the Windows drive, then it works as you intend?
[00:11] <Jofironses> sudo swapon
[00:12] <lgc> Jofironses: no. But It should mount nevertheless, shouldn't it?
[00:12] <Moseco> james434: Yes, it boots the ubuntu disk and grub comes up
[00:12] <Jofironses> Yeah it should, but swapon could at least give us a log of why it is not mounting
[00:13] <Moseco> The default boot is the windows boot manager, is there a way to set the efi shell associated with ubuntu disk first?
[00:13] <james434> Moseco: Have you tried the suggestions on this page? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI
[00:13] <lgc> Jofironses: when I do sudo swapon it prints the options list.
[00:13] <BabsSeed> Jofironses: No problem.
[00:13] <Jofironses> lgc: sudo swapon UUID=XXXX
[00:13] <Moseco> james434: Ill take a look, thanks
[00:14] <chris310> james434, Xnee seems a bit confusing, and it crashed when i wanted to record/ :(
[00:14] <visualise> pwned
[00:14] <lgc> Jofironses: I used /dev/sda4 on the fstab table.
[00:14] <Jofironses> lgc: actually sudo swapon -v /dev/sda4
[00:15] <Jofironses> lgc: or "sudo swapon -v -a"
[00:15] <lgc> Jofironses: it seems it worked.
[00:15] <james434> chris310: I just found out there's also a program called xmacro for that.
[00:15] <Jofironses> lgc: great, I guess it should work from now on then
[00:15] <lgc> Jofironses: but I'm puzzled because it doesn't appear in the mount table.
[00:16] <Jofironses> lgc: It shouldn't
[00:16] <Jofironses> lgc: You can check it with free
[00:16] <lgc> Jofironses: how come?
[00:17] <Jofironses> lgc: I don't know, I guess that is just how things are.
[00:17] <Jofironses> lgc: Because you don't actually moun tit
[00:17] <lgc> Jofironses: what do you mean by free?
[00:17] <Jofironses> execute free
[00:17] <Jofironses> in command line
[00:17] <lgc> Jofironses: Oh, I got it.
[00:18] <lgc> Yes, it reports the swap space, Jofironses .
[00:18] <Jofironses> lgc: great
[00:19] <lgc> Jofironses: Indeed! One last thing: I'm not sure why swapon made the change permanently. Does it modify some configuration table or such?
[00:19] <lgc> Jofironses: I mean file, not table.
[00:19] <Jofironses> lgc: On the contrary, it does not make it permanent. It is only until you reset your computer. But since it works your fstab is also working
[00:20] <Jofironses> lgc: Therefore once you reboot it should work too
[00:20] <VassiliAr> im having a problem compiling a program without root can anyone help me please? http://pastebin.com/neVQb7GY
[00:20] <lgc> Jofironses: Thanks. Let me try that.
[00:22] <james434> VassiliAr: Why not compile on a system where you have root? Or on a live system?
[00:22] <DougsTech> foot
[00:22] <lgc> Jofironses: In fact, it's there after reboot. Thanks a lot!
[00:23] <VassiliAr> james you mean i could try getting a pre built package or similar?
[00:27] <james434> VassiliAr: That could be an option, yes.
[00:29] <pie_> if I installed ubuntu onto an sd card for use in a laptop, the installer being run on a different computer, will i run into any driver issues or other issues?
[00:29] <wilee-nilee> Moseco, Have you gone to the #grub channel as suggested earlier?
[00:29] <Moseco> wilee-nilee: I did, no one responded
[00:30] <james434> pie_: It depends on the hardware that the other system uses.
[00:30] <wilee-nilee> Moseco, Takes some time. AS of now you can boot either OS righ, you just want grub to be what you see first, am I correct?
[00:31] <Moseco> wilee-nilee: That is right
[00:31] <pie_> james434, as far as i can tell neither has anything special, ie raid or stuff
[00:32] <pie_> though i do need to change /dev/sdb1 to /dev/sda1 on the new machine
[00:32] <pie_> i thingk
[00:32] <wilee-nilee> Moseco, I'm not sure but I suspect that you are set, withe uefi setup it is a little different is all. I would be really careful in getting any help here, you had one person who is the only one I would trust suggest grub.
[00:32] <lgc> When I do sudo halt the poweroff process is not completed. What gives?
[00:32] <james434> pie_: If they are more or less similar, then it should be fine. But also check what graphics cards they use as that is one of the most common problems.
[00:33] <daftykins> lgc: because that's not how to turn off a computer. sudo shutdown -h 0
[00:33] <pie_> heh, too poor for graphics cards, though the laptop has one, so ill look into that
[00:33] <Moseco> wilee-nilee: Ok, thanks.
[00:33] <lgc> daftykins: It used to work.
[00:33] <wilee-nilee> Moseco,Otherwise I would use the ubuntu forums and the author of that thread I believe I linked you to.
[00:33] <pie_> lgc, halt is only part of the general shutdown process isnt it?
[00:34] <lgc> pie_: Is it? I would think otherwise, but please enlighten me.
[00:34] <Moseco> wilee-nilee: Ok
[00:35] <pie_> lgc, im asking, idk (too busy to google)
[00:35] <fabioporto> anyone would care to help here?
[00:36] <james434> fabioporto: Help with what?
[00:36] <fabioporto> did something stupid while installing 13.04
[00:36] <daftykins> !ask | fabioporto
[00:37] <Sector_0> does anyone know of anyway to escape from a non-responsive fullscreen program?
[00:37] <daftykins> Sector_0: switch to a TTY and kill the process? *shrug*
[00:37] <Sector_0> ctrl-alt-f1 does not work for me and I can't seem to get it to work
[00:37] <james434> Sector_0: Alt+F2, then type xkill and click on the program.
[00:37] <fabioporto> hmm, ok, no pvt msgs huh? ok...
[00:38] <Sector_0> james434: alt-f2 doesn't bring up a menu
[00:39] <fabioporto> well, I replaced my latest distro (Mint 15) with ubuntu 13.04 and I lost everything I had ... tried using " TestDisk" but no luck there, so this is my last resource
[00:40] <wilee-nilee> fabioporto, Are you using the HD right now?
[00:42] <fabioporto> unfortunately, yes, it's the only one I have... I know I shouldn't be... but there's simply no other way I can use the computer... and I even tried running TesDisk while using a bootable pendrive, but i got nothing
[00:42] <james434> Sector_0: Do you mean nothing happens if you try that?
[00:43] <fabioporto> the partitions where I used to keep all my personal files were gone
[00:43] <fabioporto> :/
[00:43] <wilee-nilee> fabioporto, If you used testdisk correctly I doubt there is anything can be done, and if so I doubt you will get it here. And continuing to use the HD is not a smart idea, you would use a live cd.
[00:44] <james434> fabioporto: Have you backed up your files to somewhere else? Also keep in mind that any drive could fail at any time, regardless of the operating system. So, you should always have a backup of important files...
[00:46] <fabioporto> I know... right know I can't even remember what files I had in this computer that could possibly be important, but I'm afraid I might just find that out someday and then it will be long gone
[00:47] <fabioporto> I haven' t been using this laptop that much, and yes I do have a portable drive, I'm just not sure everything was there, you know? I'm afraid I might have lost something important nad just not realized yet
[00:48] <james434> fabioporto: Well, if I were you, I would make a backup image of that drive, just in case.
[00:49] <fabioporto> how is that so?
[00:49] <james434> fabioporto: If you are not sure if you lost important files, then it's probably a good idea to make a backup anyway.
[00:49] <fabioporto> you mean even know when everything is lost? could I keep trying to recover anything from this image?
[00:51] <james434> fabioporto: If you didn't overwrite the entire disk with new data, then there is a fair chance to get the files back.
[00:51] <fabioporto> how am I supposed to do that? backup everything? even the "blank" areas of the HD? 'cause right now all I've got is a 320GB hd with only ubuntu installed and my lost files hidden there, somewhere, underneath a new partition that is has created
[00:52] <fabioporto> Please teach me how to do that, I'll try anything
[00:55] <james434> fabioporto: You could boot into a live system and use TestDisk.
[00:55] <Sector_0> james434: yes that's what I mean
[00:56] <Sector_0> the screen just remains the same
[00:56] <fabioporto> TestDisk can do that?
[00:57] <fabioporto> which option should I use? Would you happen to know that? :)
[00:57] <james434> fabioporto: In any case, you should not be using the drive that you are trying to restore files from. Any write activity on that drive could overwrite your files.
[00:57] <fabioporto> I know :/
[00:58] <fabioporto> I'll only use the live usb drive from now on
[00:58] <james434> Sector_0: You could also use another tty to kill the process.
[00:58] <fabioporto> I still don't understand how it can be possible to create that image
[00:59] <Sector_0> james434: none of them work :/
[00:59] <fabioporto> I mean, including my files that are marked as blank now
[00:59] <Sector_0> tried Ctrl-Alt-f1-f6
[00:59] <james434> fabioporto: If you just create a new partition, then it doesn't overwrite the entire drive with new data.
[00:59] <Sector_0> the sreen just goes black
[00:59] <fabioporto> I know
[00:59] <james434> fabioporto: The underlying data is probably still there. :)
[01:00] <Sector_0> but I can return from it using ctrl-alt-f7 like normal
[01:00] <fabioporto> that's why I haven't given up yet
[01:00] <Sector_0> I've read that it has something to do with video cards but I'm not sure how to fix it
[01:00] <james434> Sector_0: What happens if you press ctrl+alt+T ?
[01:00] <fabioporto> but I'm not so confident... I mean... the partitions were deleted and another one was created on top of them... how bad that can be?
[01:01] <james434> Sector_0: Can you open a terminal window?
[01:01] <Sector_0> james434: that brings up a normal terminal window
[01:01] <Sector_0> but that doesn't happen in a fullscreen application
[01:02] <james434> fabioporto: You could still give TestDisk a try.
[01:02] <lgc> What's the command to find out my machine's IP address?
[01:03] <usr13> lgc: ifconfig
[01:03] <lgc> usr13: thanks.
[01:03] <fabioporto> ok, I'll do that. Thank you for the support James434. :)
[01:04] <james434> Sector_0: If you have a terminal window open, then you can type killall processname.
[01:05] <lgc> How can I start the ssh-server without rebooting?
[01:06] <usr13> james434: Sector_0 You can also do Ctrl-F2
[01:06] <usr13> lgc: service
[01:07] <lgc> usr13: Actually, no. It doesn't give me the IP address.
[01:07] <james434> usr13: I told him that previously :)  but it didn't work apparently.
[01:07] <SchrodingersScat> those sound like different problems
[01:08] <usr13> lgc: ifconfig |grep Bcast
[01:08] <fabioporto> James434: can I paste a link here? So you can tell me if this is a valid try?
[01:08] <usr13> lgc: service  ssh start
[01:09] <james434> fabioporto: Sure, but I don't know very much about TestDisk myself.
[01:09] <usr13> james434: (He probably just didn't scroll up.)
[01:09] <lgc> usr13: It doesn't.
[01:09] <usr13> lgc: It doesn't _______________?    (Do what?)
[01:10] <fabioporto> http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/19446/make-a-drive-image-using-an-ubuntu-live-cd/
[01:10] <Sector_0> james434: the problem is that I can't access the terminal from a fullscreen program
[01:10] <lgc> usr13: Sorry, I mean that Bcast gives only the internal IP.
[01:10] <fabioporto> do you think this DD tool could help me with that image?
[01:10] <Sector_0> usr13: ctrl-f2 doesn't do anything
[01:10] <usr13> lgc: firefox ipchicken.com
[01:11] <Sector_0> and if you mean alt-f2, I can't access that from a fullscreen app
[01:11] <lgc> usr13: whatismyip.com gives me an address I can't find on the ifconfig report.
[01:12] <SchrodingersScat> lgc: correct
[01:12] <james434> fabioporto: I would suggest something easier, like CloneZilla or Ghost4Linux.
[01:12] <lgc> SchrodingersScat: but there must be some command to find out, I gather.
[01:12] <SchrodingersScat> lgc: people have arrived at several solutions
[01:13] <usr13> lgc: Correct.  (That is not what ifconfig is for.) (ifconfig [without argument[ tells you information about your network interface.)
[01:13] <lgc> SchrodingersScat: like which ones?
[01:14] <fabioporto> it says here that only the used blocks are copied with clonezilla :/
[01:15] <SchrodingersScat> lgc: http://www.commandlinefu.com/commands/matching/external-ip-address/ZXh0ZXJuYWwgaXAgYWRkcmVzcw==/sort-by-votes there's some
[01:15] <james434> fabioporto: It also supports sector-to-sector copy by using dd.
[01:16] <fabioporto> hmm... ok then
[01:16] <NickNomenclature> Very quick question. I'm writing something basic in python (on 12.04) but getting ridiculous errors for the while loop. Pastebin: http://pastebin.com/ZhCLV1BX
[01:18] <lgc> SchrodingersScat: Interesting. But I wonder why one has to go out and ask for it. It should be stored on the machine somewhere, shoudn't it?
[01:19] <usr13> lgc: curl ifconfig.me
[01:19] <SchrodingersScat> lgc: why? that's mostly my router's business
[01:20] <lgc> SchrodingersScat: OK, so why isn't there a command to prompt the router for the IP address?
[01:21] <usr13> lgc: There are many types of routers.
[01:21] <fabioporto> James434: once again, thanks for your help
[01:21] <fabioporto> I'll see what I can do here
[01:22] <usr13> lgc: wget -O - -q icanhazip.com
[01:23] <lgc> usr13: It's still like "go ask John Doe what my IP is".
[01:23] <usr13> lgc: curl ident.me
[01:24] <usr13> lgc: So login to your router's status page.
[01:24] <SchrodingersScat> or better yet, learn to use curl to login to your router's status page
[01:24] <lgc> usr13: ident.me is an external site?
[01:25] <lgc> usr13: Yes, but that's not quite direct.
[01:26] <lgc> SchrodingersScat: I can't quite make out what curl does.
[01:26] <SchrodingersScat> lgc: it's not directly your IP either, so an indirect answer may have to suffice.
[01:26] <lgc> SchrodingersScat: I see.
[01:27] <usr13> lgc: But, even if you log into your router's status page, you'll see the router's outside IP but that still may not really be your "outside" IP, (or at least not your "public" IP on the internet, if that is in fact what you are looking for).  ("outside IP" is a bit vague or ambiguous)
[01:27] <lgc> usr13: OK.
[01:28] <usr13> lgc: ... so you would have to define "outside IP", (more fully).
[01:29] <usr13> lgc:  *Your* "ooutside" IP may not realy be *yours*, it may be your ISP's and you may be sharing it with lots of other people.
[01:30] <lgc> usr13: The IP address your provider assigns to you.
[01:30] <usr13> lgc: It all depends on your type of connection to the outside
[01:30] <lgc> usr13: As far as I know it's unique, albeit on a temporary basis.
[01:31] <lgc> What I mean is that if you have a certain address, no one can have it.
[01:31] <usr13> lgc: Not always, actually usually not.
[01:32] <usr13> lgc: In other words, not true.  It depends on what kind of service you have.
[01:32] <Morgan_Freeman> Herbal Incense, Legal Buds, Enhancements, Scales, Vapes, Extracts,  http://legal.smokemarket.ru/
[01:33] <lgc> usr13: Hmmm...
[01:33] <ese> Hello i create a new thread in Ubuntuforums in hope someone knows how to fix my problem with sound: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2170099 thank you all
[01:34] <usr13> lgc: There are a number of different types of connections we may have to the "outside" [internet], and one single "outside" IP address is often times shared by many users.
[01:35] <lgc> usr13: This is the first time I hear this.
[01:36] <somsip> lgc: lots of information can be found here http://is.gd/mcJvOt
[01:36] <lgc> usr13: How would the data packets that are bound to your machine would arrive if there are more with the same IP?
[01:36] <usr13> lgc: Many ISPs will charge extra for a dedicated "outside" IP, (otherwise, you share one with many other users, sometimes hundreds).
[01:37] <usr13> lgc: Well, one way would be a process refered to as ipmasquerading
[01:37] <lgc> Ah, OK, usr13 .
[01:38] <lgc> usr13: It's been an enlightening conversation. I've got now reading material. For the time being I need to go.
[01:39] <usr13> lgc: Ok, let us know if there is anything else we can do.
[01:39] <lgc>  By the way, in passing, I mention an offtopic: "Obama has given a green light to military intervention in Syria!". (OMG!)
[01:39] <lgc> usr13: You bet! Thanks a lot.
[01:40] <reisio> is that a surprise? :p
[01:41] <fajung> is there any way to install friends in ubuntu 12.04 ?
[01:41] <reisio> I hope that isn't the name of... anything
[01:42] <SchrodingersScat> !friends
[01:44] <SchrodingersScat> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/f/friends/
[01:45] <VassiliAr> hi i need help to compile a program without root - can anyone help me or tell me where i could get help please?
[01:46] <jrib> VassiliAr: explain in detail what you want to accomplish exactly
[01:47] <VassiliAr> i want to compile and install qemu in my user dir - i been reading and trying for days - and seen people do it and even been told so in cahts - but it seems that each situation is different
[01:48] <usr13> fajung: http://askubuntu.com/questions/322795/install-latest-gwibber-friends-app-in-ubuntu-12-04
[01:50] <usr13> VassiliAr: sudo ?
[01:50] <SchrodingersScat> VassiliAr: which step is tripping you up?
[01:51] <usr13> VassiliAr: Why not just use the package manager?
[01:52] <usr13> !compile | VassiliAr
[01:54] <VassiliAr> sudo wont work and neither wont pack manager cause i dont have root
[01:54] <VassiliAr> but it is still possible
[01:55] <usr13> VassiliAr: Why would sudo not work?  (Did you forget your password?)
[01:56] <Guest67927> is there a reall working no buggy software to record desktop screen and / or audio by mic?
[01:57] <VassiliAr> no i dont have root - im a regular user
[01:59] <usr13> VassiliAr: But why is it you can not use sudo?  (Being a "regular user" does not explain why you are not able to use sudo.) (We need more details.)
[02:01] <usr13> VassiliAr: Is it *your* computer you are working on?
[02:01] <usr13> VassiliAr: cat /etc/issue   #What does that say?
[02:02] <VassiliAr> im not very linux savvy buddy - i dont know why - i just know i cannot use sudo
[02:02] <VassiliAr> i been trying to learn about linux theses days
[02:02] <IdleOne> VassiliAr: is this your computer?
[02:03] <reisio> VassiliAr: why wouldn't you use a binary
[02:03] <VassiliAr> no its not but i use it frequently
[02:03] <usr13> VassiliAr: Open a terminal window and type   "cat /etc/issue"  (without the quotes), hit enter, tell us what it says?
[02:03] <VassiliAr> the output i got is : Ubuntu 12.04.2 LTS \n \l
[02:03] <IdleOne> VassiliAr: ok, if you don't know the sudo password then you should ask the administrator to install qemu for you.
[02:04] <usr13> VassiliAr: Ahhh ok.  Well it is not a good idea to try install software on someone else's computer without their permission. (Did you ask first?)
[02:04] <SchrodingersScat> I didn't think people built as root anyway...
[02:04] <usr13> VassiliAr: Or as IdleOne suggests, ask your system administrator
[02:05] <VassiliAr> admins dont care about their users - thats not gonna work
[02:05] <VassiliAr> only what i can do
[02:05] <usr13> VassiliAr: Well, that is not really the way it works.
[02:05] <IdleOne> VassiliAr:  This channel can't help circumvent sudo, if the admins wanted you to have the ability to install software they would have given it to you.
[02:06] <IdleOne> Please ask your admin to install what you need
[02:06] <usr13> VassiliAr: What is your end goal?  (What is it you really want to accomplish.)  (Maybe there is something else we can help you with.)
[02:06] <VassiliAr> i bet not everyone thinks like you idle - but i got you
[02:07] <VassiliAr> to put some life and fun to this stinking computer lol
[02:07] <IdleOne> VassiliAr: Does not matter what everyone thinks, what matters is channel policy.
[02:13] <art24243232> hello
[02:14] <art24243232> fs
[02:14] <art24243232> join #django
[02:19] <linuxuz3r> hi
[02:19] <Fren> hi
[02:19] <linuxuz3r> i get lagged when i switch workspaces in gnome shell does anyone know how to fix this
[02:20] <linuxuz3r> hi fren
[02:20] <holstein> linuxuz3r: you can try "living with it", maybe there is nothing to do about it.. but you can try other graphics drivers, assuming there are ones available.. or, a non-3d desktop like xfce/xubuntu
[02:25] <wilee-nilee> linuxuz3r, Since your using the shell, have you had a chance to peruse the extensions?
[02:25] <linuxuz3r> not yet
[02:25] <linuxuz3r> just got it reinstalled again
[02:26] <linuxuz3r> side question: when i change the passwd of a user does the sudo passwd also changes?
[02:26] <linuxuz3r> the root passwd?
[02:27] <wilee-nilee> linuxuz3r, The admin password is the sudo password, and there is no root password.
[02:28] <kostkon> linuxuz3r, and you can have more than one users with administrator rights and thus more than one admin passwords
[02:28] <scarrz> i just installed ubuntu 13.04 and the desktop wont show up it just shows a terminal screen saying "dannyedwardslaptop Logon: *Starting" i dont know what to do i tried startx and it says display not detected
[02:28] <linuxuz3r> so if i change the user passwd it also changes the sudo passwd?
[02:28] <linuxuz3r> just to confirm
[02:29] <holstein> !nomodeset | scarrz
[02:29] <holstein> scarrz: did the live desktop work?
[02:29] <scarrz> the live one worked
[02:30] <kostkon> linuxuz3r, if it's the password of an admin user then yes
[02:30] <holstein> scarrz: if you installed upgrades during the installation, then you might have different packages than the live environment had
[02:30] <wilee-nilee> linuxuz3r, Your defintion here of user is the account made on install right, there are at least two types od users.
[02:30] <wilee-nilee> of*
[02:30] <ConfusdUser7800> Hi I am a windows user and I wanna get a chrome book but I don't like chrome so I wanted to install chrubuntu, is it worth the cost cut?
[02:31] <scarrz> holstein: i didnt install updates during install
[02:31] <holstein> ConfusdUser7800: chrubuntu is not ubuntu.. i would ask a hardware channel.. if i wanted a well supported ubuntu/linux machine i would look at system76
[02:31] <wilee-nilee> ConfusdUser7800, Not supported here I would install ubuntu on a regular computer for support.
[02:32] <scarrz> i used unetbootin to create  a live cd on the usb drive i have
[02:33] <holstein> scarrz: something is different.. the hard drive wasnt being used from the live CD
[02:33] <linuxuz3r> i cannot remember if i did su -
[02:33] <linuxuz3r> and then change passwd
[02:34] <scarrz> holstein the livecd didnt work the only thing that showed up was install menus for ubuntu
[02:35] <wilee-nilee> linuxuz3r, You would not use su in ubuntu to start with, and would only run passwd to change the admin password.
[02:36] <scarrz> whats the best way to create a live cd on a usb drive
[02:36] <holstein> scarrz: that would be a "no" then, when i asked if the live desktop worked?
[02:37] <holstein> scarrz: could be as simple as supported graphics drivers needing installed
[02:37] <wilee-nilee> linuxuz3r, I think you may need to get a little more orientated with ubuntu and do some research on super user access.
[02:37] <scarrz> how do i do that?
[02:38] <holstein> scarrz: you would need to determine if that is necessary/possible. what would i do? make the live cd go to the desktop. maybe using nomodeset that i linked you already would help do that
[02:39] <holstein> scarrz: from there i would learn what graphics card i have, and if the desktop works on the hardware.. then i would reference..
[02:39] <holstein> !ati | scarrz this if its needed
[02:39] <scarrz> i dont have any dvds only a usb drive
[02:39] <DarwinSurvivor> !usb | scarrz
[02:40] <holstein> scarrz: live CD via USB is fine. i use unetbootin, and there are many options listed above ^
[02:43] <blackzombie> hola
[02:43] <scarrz> what do i do if none of  the things listed works?
[02:44] <blackzombie> alguien usa bugtraq 2
[02:44] <Prock81> when is 14.04 comming out?
[02:45] <holstein> Prock81: the "14" referes to 2014.. the ".04", to the month.. april
[02:49] <Shadowandlight> how can i restrict ip addresses that can access ssh?
[02:50] <Shadowandlight> i have already changed the port to something non-standard
[02:50] <Shadowandlight> sudo gedit /etc/ssh/sshd_config ..  im not seeing ip specific info
[02:53] <flystom> hi
[02:54] <reisio> hi fly
[02:55] <scarrz> holstein: the live cd doesnt work
[02:55] <holstein> scarrz: with nomodeset?
[02:55] <scarrz> holstein i ca
[02:56] <scarrz> i cant even get to that option
[02:56] <holstein> scarrz: what do you "get to"
[02:58] <brady> The latest ubuntu kernel has a bug in the network driver. How do I convince apt-get to install a newer (or older) kernel?
[03:00] <CarlFK> brady: I don't think you can downgrade with apt
[03:01] <qin> brady: apt-get install linux
[03:01] <qin> brady: apt-get install linux-headers-<number>
[03:11] <ubuntuissues> Hello, so I seem to be having another problem. I am unable to format a disk, and every time I use gparted/partitionmanager the new partition table does not apply/stay.
[03:12] <holstein> ubuntuissues: i would look at the disk then.. maybe its bad or failing..
[03:13] <Koveryl> Hello
[03:14] <Koveryl> Anybody here have experience with xubuntu?
[03:14] <Koveryl> I'm having a little trouble with it.
[03:14] <holstein> Koveryl: just ask.
[03:15] <ubuntuissues> Does someone with ops mind kicking ChukwaTa, he is a spam bot and just PM'ed me the N word.
[03:15] <Koveryl> Alright. Well, I'm trying to figure out how to make the icons work kinda like the ones in Win7/Ubuntu. But instead, to access any window I have open, I have to alt-tab to it.
[03:15] <BluesKaj> ubuntuissues, you can't make a new partition table with gparted unless you're on the gparted live cd or the ubuntu live cd
[03:15] <Prodego> ubuntuissues: use your /ignore feature
[03:16] <ubuntuissues> BluesKaj, that would seem ridiculous, especially if the drive isn't mounted.
[03:19] <Hexagonite> If the bug is marked as 'Fix released', it means the fix is already available for everyone, right?
[03:19] <Koveryl> ChukwaTa is... interesting
[03:19] <Hexagonite> a bug*
[03:19] <IdleOne> Koveryl: received some spam?
[03:20] <Koveryl> Yeah. He's an interesting person, alright.
[03:20] <BluesKaj> ubuntuissues, it's a partition table you're trying to create not just a partition
[03:20] <Hexagonite> Anyone?
[03:21] <holstein> Hexagonite: "Fix released" means that... a fix is released.. is in in the repos? not sure if its there yet, it'll depend, and you'll have to look, on a per case basis AFAIK..
[03:22] <Hexagonite> holstein: this bug specifically: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-themes/+bug/1154814
[03:23] <holstein> Hexagonite: im not sure how much attention gnome is getting..
[03:24] <Koveryl> Could somebody tell me a better way to go to different windows on xubuntu?
[03:24] <Koveryl> Right now I have to alt-tab
[03:24] <holstein> Koveryl: i use workspaces
[03:24] <Hexagonite> So how do I get the fix?
[03:24] <Koveryl> Oh yeah, I just discovered those today. Those are cool.
[03:24] <Koveryl> That's a great idea.
[03:24] <Koveryl> I'll do that
[03:24] <holstein> Hexagonite: are you running a ppa?
[03:25] <Hexagonite> holstein: running a ppa?
[03:25] <holstein> Hexagonite: are you using a PPA, or have you found one that has the "fix" in it?
[03:26] <Hexagonite> holstein: the fix was released on the Ubuntu ppa (correct me please), the one that I linked?
[03:26] <Koveryl> Holstein, this works great. Thanks!
[03:27] <holstein> Koveryl: enjoy!.. i prefer it that way, when i want most apps fullscreen on a workspace
[03:28] <holstein> Hexagonite: you could try contacting someone from the bug report.. or the dev mailing list.
[03:38] <a1cypher> Hey folks.   Having a small issue with a recently updated ubuntu.   When booting, it brings up my lightdm login screen.  If I enter my password and select Ubuntu or Ubuntu 2D and hit enter the screen blinks black and then lightdm loads up again and no desktop starts.  Any ideas what trouble could be?
[03:39] <holstein> a1cypher: your session.. i would try another user, or the guest account to test that theory.. or move/remove/rename .config files in your /home
[03:39] <a1cypher> looking in /var/log/lightdm/lightdm.log I see "Session 3687 got 1 message(s) from PAM"
[03:39] <a1cypher> holstein: only one user on the box.  I'll try guest.
[03:40] <holstein> a1cypher: you can always add a user via commandline to see.. this will help you determine if its a system issue, or user config issue
[03:40] <a1cypher> hrm.. guest seems to work.  What do I delete to get my user working again?  I dont care much about any lost settings or whatever, its just an XBMC box.
[03:41] <holstein> a1cypher: then, you can move *everything* out of your /home if you want.. all the .files.. someitmes, i just move them all, and test and put back what i need
[03:42] <juanjo> rip dvd
[03:42] <a1cypher> hrm...
[03:43] <juanjo> mejor programa para rpear dvd's
[03:43] <reisio> juanjo: dvdrip? mplayer dvd:// -dumpstream -dumpfile foo
[03:44] <juanjo> en menos de 700 mb
[03:44] <reisio> juanjo: hrmmm?
[03:44] <juanjo> buena calidad
[03:44] <reisio> ah :)
[03:45] <CountryfiedLinux> Is there a way to get synapse-indicator to work in Mate desktop
[03:45] <CountryfiedLinux> s/
[03:45] <CountryfiedLinux> ?
[03:45] <holstein> CountryfiedLinux: mate is not in the ubuntu repos. though, i use kupfer on whatever desktop i choose
[03:46] <juanjo> gracias
[03:46] <juanjo> reisio
[03:46] <reisio> np
[03:46] <juanjo> bye
[03:46] <CountryfiedLinux> holstein, what's kupfer?
[03:46] <holstein> !info kupfer
[03:47] <holstein> CountryfiedLinux: its like synapse, AFAIK
[03:47] <holstein> !info synapse
[03:49] <lotuspsychje> morning to all
[03:50] <reisio> mornin'
[03:52] <a1cypher> Thanks holstein,  seems to have worked.
[03:52] <a1cypher> cheers
[03:52] <holstein> a1cypher: enjoy!
[03:53] <Seegee_> Hey guys, Im looking for someone named Joobz, or Koobz, or something like that xD Anyone know him?
[03:54] <holstein> Seegee_: try the #ubuntu-offtopic channel
[03:54] <Seegee_> Ok
[04:08] <DougsTech> Is there any way to remotely capture an image of a server, when only having SSH?
[04:08] <DougsTech> the server is on Amaazon EC2
[04:08] <reisio> DougsTech: you can just copy all its files over ssh
[04:09] <DougsTech> reisio, I'm new to linux. I know with windows, that would BSOD it. so, I can just SCP everything from the server to a new drive and it will boot just fine?
[04:10] <reisio> DougsTech: almost
[04:10] <reisio> you might have to change some kernel configurations/modules
[04:10] <reisio> and the partition/layout/configuration/grub stuff
[04:10] <reisio> but that's all really
[04:11] <DougsTech> ah ok, but those are just config file changes for the most part, right? not stuff like drivers?
[04:11] <reisio> yeah, I mean
[04:11] <reisio> you copy the filesystem
[04:11] <reisio> what changes is the hardware
[04:11] <reisio> and where those files are
[04:11] <reisio> so drivers & grub, basically
[04:11] <reisio> if the partition layout changes, that too
[04:12] <reisio> but just copying the data is 99.999% of the way there
[04:12] <DougsTech> ah ok. thanks!
[04:12] <reisio> the simplest way would probably be to tar it up
[04:12] <reisio> then you won't have to worry about special files and permissions getting messed up on any other FS you transfer to
[04:13] <usr13> DougsTech: tar -zxvf docs.tgz -C /mnt/memstick/backup/ or gzip < /dev/hda > /mnt/hdb1/system_drive_backup.img.gz  or dd if=/dev/sda2 | ssh $user@$host 'gzip - > /pub/image.gz'
[04:13] <reisio> you can tar and redirect the output of the network to save space, or just tar it up remotely and transfer the tar file alone
[04:13] <DougsTech> see this is the tricky part, its an amazon EC2 server, so no access other than SSH, so I have nowhere to save the tar besides the sam drive I'm taring
[04:13] <reisio> but not dd, that'll waste your time :)
[04:14] <reisio> DougsTech: or to a drive connected to your network
[04:14] <syn-ack> scp it to your local system
[04:14] <syn-ack> man 1 scp
[04:14] <hex20dec1> Hey people, question.. My tty1-6 suddenly stopped working. All I get is no signal from my monitor but I can still go back to my gui.
[04:14] <reisio> it'd be simpler to tar it up remotely and then copy the tarball alone, but I don't know if that'll cost you extra in storage
[04:15] <DougsTech> reisio, yea can you save the tar to the same drive your taring?
[04:15] <reisio> DougsTech: yup
[04:15] <usr13> DougsTech: gzip < /dev/hda | ssh remote-machine "cat >system_drive_backup.img.gz"
[04:15] <DougsTech> syn-ack, what do you mean scp to local?
[04:15] <reisio> DougsTech: cd / && tar -czf everything.tar.gz .
[04:15] <reisio> DougsTech: it'll probably complain about some things, but it shouldn't be anything to worry about, otherwise you can exclude certain things if you want: http://www.gentoo-wiki.info/HOWTO_Custom_Stage4#Tar_the_System
[04:16] <syn-ack> DougsTech: Pack the tarball and scp it from their to your local system
[04:16] <syn-ack> from there, even
[04:16] <reisio> right, scp is just cp for over ssh :)
[04:16] <reisio> s/for //
[04:16] <usr13> DougsTech: cp /dev/hda1 /mnt/hdb1/system_partition_backup.img
[04:16] <turbulence> I had a boyfriend named Ubuntu once.  He used to "play the bongos" on my ass.
[04:16] <turbulence> I had a boyfriend named Ubuntu once.  He used to "play the bongos" on my ass.
[04:16] <FloodBot1> turbulence: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:17] <DougsTech> thanks much guys, going to give this a try now!
[04:17] <reisio> DougsTech: some of the commands some people have sent you are... silly :p fyi
[04:17] <hexy> Hey does anyone know why my tty1-6 suddenly stopped working? All I get is no signal from my monitor but I can still go back to my gui.
[04:18] <reisio> hexy: pressing keys does nothing?
[04:18] <hexy> Nope
[04:18] <hexy> As I said, I get a 'no signal' from my monitor.
[04:19] <reisio> mmm, dunno
[04:19] <reisio> reboot recently?
[04:19] <hexy> 100 times.
[04:20] <reisio> heh
[04:21] <hexy> tbh, I haven't tried it on this machine in a while, and last time I changed anything was my video driver..
[04:21] <hexy> I did change some settings, but I don't remember what
[04:21] <hexy> At all..
[04:21] <hexy> /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
[04:21] <hexy> Could that be it?
[04:23] <usr13> hexy: New kernel?
[04:24] <hexy> usr13: No idea
[04:24] <hexy> =\ Sorry
[04:25] <usr13> hexy: ls -ltr /var/lib/dpkg/info/linux-image-*list  #Take a look.
[04:26] <usr13> hexy: (What is the install date of the one you use now?)
[04:26] <hexy> usr13: Why not uname -a?
[04:27] <hexy> 3.2.0-52-generic-pae #78-Ubuntu SMP Fri Jul 26 16:43:19 UTC 2013 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
[04:27] <ese> Can someone help me with my sound? http://sprunge.us/GdCT
[04:27] <usr13> !sound | ese
[04:27] <usr13> hexy: ls -ltr /var/lib/dpkg/info/linux-image-*list  | pastebinit #Send URL
[04:28] <hexy> k
[04:29] <hexy> usr13: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6023834/
[04:29] <ese> usr13,  am working in the soundtroubleshooting you name, thats the output of the script
[04:30] <HailDarkAle> Evening, folks!
[04:30] <usr13> hexy: So, when did you first notice it?  (Just within the last day or so?)
[04:30] <miguel123> i'm using xubuntu, is it possible to completely remove the "save session for future logins" option from xfce4-session-logout? I want to block it, so that the user can't change the default session
[04:30] <usr13> hexy: If so, try booting the 3.2.0-51 kernel.
[04:31] <hexy> usr13: Yes, but as I said, I haven't tried it in a while since I use synergy and if I go to any (tty1-6), I can't control the machine anymore and I'd have to use a direct keyboard to go back to gui
[04:31] <HailDarkAle> Hola!
[04:32] <usr13> hexy: I don't know.
[04:32] <hexy> usr13: Well, how do I boot into a different kernel??
[04:33] <reisio> miguel123: probably, I know they have some prefs for that, avialable via xfconf, I think
[04:34] <reisio> miguel123: stuff like this: http://forum.xfce.org/viewtopic.php?id=4781
[04:34] <usr13> hexy: Hold shift key as it boots, you'll get the grub menu and see a list of installed kernels available to boot, you should see  several.
[04:34] <hexy> Okay, thanks.
[04:34] <reisio> miguel123: I forget the commands, but xfconf-/whatever will be able to list all the options
[04:34] <usr13> hexy: Use up or down arrows to select
[04:35] <miguel123> xfconf-query, yes reisio but I'm not seeing any option related to disable the save session option
[04:35] <reisio> miguel123: you figure out the command to list everything yet?
[04:37] <miguel123> I do xfconf-query -l -c xfce4-session
[04:37] <reisio> miguel123: you could just disable the session manager altogether
[04:37] <Chris123> Hello, I have installed Ubuntu last night, my internet speed was real slow last night, I selected Download updates while installing, and I go to sleep. Next morning I found that Ubuntu installation is completed and it was telling me to restart my computer, Now I am bit worried that was the installation have gone right? is just running Software Updater enough now? or do I need to reinstall?
[04:37] <miguel123> I have two interesting options here, AutoSave and SaveOnExit
[04:38] <Chris123> Hello, I have installed Ubuntu last night, my internet speed was real slow last night, I selected Download updates while installing, and I go to sleep. Next morning I found that Ubuntu installation is completed and it was telling me to restart my computer, Now I am bit worried that was the installation have gone right? is just running Software Updater enough now? or do I need to reinstall?
[04:38] <miguel123> but I think none of them is the one reisio
[04:38] <miguel123> how could I disable the session manager reisio ?
[04:38] <reisio> xfce4-session
[04:38] <reisio> don't run it
[04:39] <Chris123> Hello, I have installed Ubuntu last night, my internet speed was real slow last night, I selected Download updates while installing, and I go to sleep. Next morning I found that Ubuntu installation is completed and it was telling me to restart my computer, Now I am bit worried that was the installation have gone right? is just running Software Updater enough now? or do I need to reinstall?
[04:39] <hexy> usr13: So I see the boot menu but I can't go up or down for some reason... Either way, I only have: ubuntu with linux 3.2.0-52-generic-pae   Ubuntu.........3.2.0-52....(recovery mode) and then I have Previous linux versions.
[04:39] <qin> Chris123: Apart of repeating, did you restarted your machine?
[04:39] <reisio> miguel123: how about this
[04:40] <reisio> miguel123: make sure the 'save session on logout' pref is set to no
[04:40] <hexy> usr13: I fixed the selection... which should I select?
[04:40] <Chris123> qin: yup, I restarted it then.
[04:40] <xmetal> "previous linux versions" is a submenu with older kernels
[04:40] <xmetal> or at least it should be
[04:40] <qin> Chris123: and?
[04:40] <reisio> miguel123: then just remove any things for logout, and replace them with a shortcut to xfce4-session-logout
[04:40] <hexy> xmetal: Yes, you're right
[04:40] <hexy> Thanks
[04:40] <reisio> miguel123: oh bah nevermind, that's the gui
[04:41] <reisio> miguel123: okay I got it
[04:41] <reisio> miguel123: alias xfce4-session-logout to xfce4-session-logout --logout ;)
[04:41] <reisio> then any logout buttons/items will just log them out without a prompt
[04:42] <Chris123> what I am trying to say is, as my Internet was real slow last night and i selected download updates from online, was the installation go erfect?
[04:42] <reisio> miguel123: or even --fast, man xfce4-session-logout has everything you need :)
[04:42] <hexy> usr13: Well, even after booting to 3.2.0-51, I can't use my tty
[04:42] <hexy> =[
[04:42] <xmetal> i am still not sure what the question is
[04:42] <reisio> Chris123: either it was or it wasn't, reboot and find out
[04:42] <xmetal> hmm
[04:42] <alxndr> yo , is chanserv set to steal nicknames around here
[04:43] <miguel123> it would be dangerous to do that: when the battery power is low, the xfce4-session-logout gui appears, or when you press the power button, it also appears, so I wouldn't want that to happen
[04:43] <miguel123> what's the difference if I use --fast?
[04:43] <qin> Chris123: type in terminal: sudo apt-get install -f #to install any missing updates; then: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade #that all.
[04:43] <reisio> miguel123: good question
[04:43] <reisio> seems like either would suffice
[04:44] <Chris123> reisio: ok, if it was not able to update  from internet due to bad in ternet speeds, can I just update now via software updater, or need to reinstall?
[04:44] <reisio> Chris123: if your network works, you can update all you like
[04:44]  * xmetal agrees with reisio
[04:44] <Chris123> qin: ok
[04:45]  * reisio agrees with xmetal 
[04:46] <hexy> Hey xmetal, would you care to help a bit please?
[04:46] <hexy> Would you happen to know why would tty1-6 stop working? All I get is a 'no signal' from my monitor
[04:47] <qin> hexy: did you try to boot with "text" parameter?
[04:48] <hexy> qin: Nope, how do I do that?
[04:49] <miguel123> reisio, so I'm afraid there isn't really a way to remove the "save session" option, which is quite annoying
[04:49] <qin> wonder what was facoid for that...
[04:49] <reisio> well there are lots of ways :)
[04:49] <reisio> you could even remove it from the source and compile the binary
[04:49] <reisio> there may well be no very simple way, though :)
[04:50] <miguel123> i tried to compile xfce4-session
[04:50] <qin> hexy: in grub (shift at boot) you can edit booting flags, so change splash to text in kernel line (e for edit)
[04:50] <miguel123> but there's no option to disable it in the configure file
[04:50] <hexy> qin: Is this good ? http://askubuntu.com/questions/92276/how-do-i-boot-into-true-text-mode
[04:50] <reisio> miguel123: delete it from the source :)
[04:50] <hexy> qin: Okay, I'll use your method
[04:50] <qin> hexy: probably
[04:51] <miguel123> I don't know C to do it reisio
[04:52] <reisio> you don't need to, really
[04:52] <miguel123> I think I found a way to do it
[04:52] <reisio> yeah?
[04:52] <miguel123> you can lock the xml files properties in kiosk mode
[04:53] <miguel123> I'll fiddle with that
[04:53] <Liquidedge> I got a brand new Toshiba Satellite and I can't get the wireless to work.  I've done a bunch of stuff on the forums.
[04:53] <Liquidedge> Can't seem to get it to come up.
[04:53] <Liquidedge> Can someone help?
[04:55] <reisio> Liquidedge: what's the output of lspci -nn | grep -i net ?
[04:56] <Liquidedge> I have a Realtek
[04:56] <Liquidedge> 10ec:8179
[04:57] <Liquidedge> It just says "Network Controller"
[04:57] <Liquidedge> And then there's an "Ethernet Controller"
[04:57] <hexy> qin: I changed splash to text, been waiting for it to do something, but yet all I see is a black screen. In the beginning I saw a blinking cursor on the top left corner
[04:58] <hexy> Now, nothing.
[04:58] <reisio> Liquidedge: which realtek?
[04:58] <hexy> qin: It's better than the 'no signal' at least.
[04:58] <hexy> Or so I think..
[04:59] <Liquidedge> Reisio: It just says "02:00.0 Network Controller [0280]: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. Device [10ec:8179] (rev 01)
[04:59] <xmetal> graphics driver issue perhaps?
[05:00] <VassiliAr> i need help about compiling programs - any channels or places where i could go please?
[05:00]  * xmetal shrugs
[05:01] <wilee-nilee> Liquidedge, I think this is your wifi and a bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1096989
[05:02] <BAMbanda> I ran sudo apt-get install gnome-shell. The terminal did all the unpacking, but how do I activate it?
[05:03] <wilee-nilee> BAMbanda, at the login choose gnome
[05:03] <BAMbanda> wilee-nilee, so I gotta restart?
[05:03] <reisio> just log out
[05:03] <BAMbanda> cool thanks
[05:03] <wilee-nilee> BAMbanda, YOu can logout
[05:03] <Liquidedge> wilee-nilee:  So, I'm just out of luck?
[05:03] <Liquidedge> Man, Ubuntu is brutal when it comes to wireless.
[05:03] <reisio> Liquidedge: read the comments, looked promising towards the end
[05:03] <reisio> Liquidedge: it really isn't
[05:04] <reisio> your computer was simply assembled with a specific OS in mind
[05:04] <xmetal> i did have issues with wireless on my OLD laptop and ubuntu 9.04 .. .though with 10.04 and 10.10 that was fixed
[05:04] <xmetal> well i take that back really
[05:04] <Liquidedge> reisio, True.  It's Windows 8.
[05:04] <xmetal> it "didn't work out of the box" with 9.04 i meant
[05:05] <reisio> doesn't matter it's not a problem with Ubuntu, it's a problem with buying hardware that was designed for software you have opted to not use
[05:05] <Liquidedge> reisio, But, it's for my son for school and trying to spread ubuntu.
[05:05] <reisio> Liquidedge: :) read the comments
[05:05] <wilee-nilee> Liquidedge, You might consider getting a cheap wifi plugin, depends on how you feel.
[05:05] <wilee-nilee> usb*
[05:06] <alxndr> yea 3.1
[05:07] <xmetal> cant remember the nick of the person in here who got one of those ... i never really thought of a usb wifi plug before ... nice idea if it works
[05:10] <Liquidedge> Sad.  :(
[05:10] <Liquidedge> I'll try to grab a usb one.  Hopefully this one gets resolved.
[05:11] <Liquidedge> Okay.  Next problem:
[05:11] <Liquidedge> Everytime a boots up.  Screen is dark and I have to go in to settings to turn it up.
[05:20] <ese> !sound
[05:25] <DragYourHalo> Yeah I'm having some serious issues trying to install libmysqlclient. I did the sudo apt-get blah blah blah and it installs just fine. Well when I tried to do a ./configure on another install that requires libmysqlclient, it says it doesn't exist. Suggestions?
[05:28] <jose> DragYourHalo: try installing libmysqlclient-dev?
[05:29] <DragYourHalo> Lemme get a paste. One sec. You'll see the problem.
[05:32] <DragYourHalo> Here's the paste to my problem.
[05:32] <DragYourHalo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6023929/
[05:36] <starbuck> hi, i have a problem waking up my server in my home lan over internet. when i do it within a few minutes after shutdown it works, but after that nothing happens. any advice?
[05:37] <reisio> sounds like maybe after that interval it goes from suspended to powered off
[05:37] <reisio> has to have a little power still to be able to be woken up
[05:40] <waterlite> Hi
[05:41] <starbuck> reisio: the thing is that it always works from within the home LAN. but over internet only the first few minutes after shutdown
[05:42] <waterlite> hello alll
[05:43] <wilee-nilee> waterlite, Do you have a support issue?
[05:43] <ShapeShifter499> hi
[05:43] <waterlite> Im the guy with the friend
[05:43] <waterlite> Who  had that wifi issue
[05:43] <waterlite> Remember ?
[05:43] <xmetal> Liquidedge, did water
[05:43] <wilee-nilee> waterlite, no, thos is a huge channel with 100's of people a day state the problems.
[05:43] <reisio> starbuck: would ask #networking about that
[05:43] <reisio> ShapeShifter499: hi
[05:44] <ShapeShifter499> so I made a backup moved everything over resized the new install and everything seems to be booting but I just wanted to reinstall grub for good measure but I'm getting these errors, any ideas?   http://pastebin.com/PCpt0ZFf
[05:45] <reisio> ShapeShifter499: indicates a system that uses UEFI, I believe
[05:45] <reisio> the most straightforward fix, I believe, is to resize the first partition so that it starts a little later, to make room
[05:46] <ShapeShifter499> that takes so long D:
[05:46] <ShapeShifter499> but what I thought
[05:46] <ShapeShifter499> reisio, quoting the error "blocklists are UNRELIABLE "  what are blocklists exactly and why are they unreliable ?
[05:47] <DragYourHalo> Anyone have an answer to my paste?
[05:48] <reisio> ShapeShifter499: I'm assuming it's a list that says "instead of looking here where you'd like to look, look for the stuff over here"
[05:48] <wilee-nilee> DragYourHalo, This is a server?
[05:48] <reisio> ask #grub if you're really interested
[05:48] <ShapeShifter499> reisio, mmk
[05:48] <DragYourHalo> Well, it's a desktop but I'm running a couple of eggdrops that use sql on it.
[05:48] <DragYourHalo> Hence the necessity to install libmysqlclient-dev
[05:49] <wilee-nilee> DragYourHalo, Ah, i have seen this a couple times lately, kinda slow right now you just need the right people to see it.
[05:50] <DragYourHalo> :(
[05:50] <DragYourHalo> I shall idle I guess and wait for the nick highlight
[05:50] <wilee-nilee> DragYourHalo, You get what you pay for here. ;)
[05:55] <ShapeShifter499> I can fix my grub issue by moving all my partitions over a 1mb?
[05:55] <ShapeShifter499> leaving roughly 1mb of empty space?
[06:03] <wiak> should i add my www user to the www-data group?
[06:03] <wiak> so i can read and write in the same dir
[06:03] <wiak> its so anyoing to use chown
[06:05] <nowayride> Soooo for %pre and %post, where during the install do those fire
[06:09] <helpitalian> guys, any italian here?
[06:09] <wiak> nope only an stupid norwegian ;)
[06:10] <helpitalian> someone just post a message saying: Tale l'aruso une e pighia na cucutza e inficatelo no cu acusi forse ti si piglia
[06:10] <helpitalian> I dont quite understand
[06:11] <lotuspsychje> !it | helpitalian
[06:11] <tozen> helpitalian: /join #ubuntu.it
[06:23] <Shadowandlight> how do i lock a new ubuntu user to one directory, i want them to be able to upload files to /var/www/wordpress but nothing else
[06:23] <Shadowandlight> i made the user already
[06:25] <aeon-ltd> Shadowandlight: never done this but, i'm thinking you could remove write access to everything but that dir. someone else should probably chime in incase this is a stupid idea
[06:27] <e_t_> upload files how?
[06:28] <lotuspsychje> e_t_: upload where?
[06:28] <Shadowandlight> via ftp
[06:29] <e_t_> Shadowandlight: you should be able to chroot the FTP user to your upload directory.
[06:30] <Shadowandlight> sudo usermod -d /var/www/wordpress  -m username gave me an error
[06:30] <Shadowandlight> cause the directory already exsists
[06:31] <e_t_> was it an actual error or just a warning?
[06:32] <Shadowandlight> well good question - usermod: directory /var/www/wordpress exists
[06:32] <Moseco_> I have a problem with grub. I have windows 7 installed on 1 disk and ubuntu on a 2nd disk (it is efi type). I have installed grub and used the repair tool but when i default boot it boots windows even though i have the ubuntu disk 1st in the bios boot order. Here is the output of sudo efibootmgr http://paste.ubuntu.com/6023160/
[06:33] <lotuspsychje> Moseco_: why not use ubuntu single on your system
[06:33] <e_t_> Shadowandlight: check /etc/passed to see if the homedir was set anyway.
[06:33] <xmetal> that is a grub configuration thing ... dont think it matters where the disks are
[06:34] <xmetal> (ok i didn't word the second half of that the way i wanted)
[06:34] <Psil0Cybin> hey guys quick question, how can i check if im allowing people to connect to my laptop with SSH. I use Xubuntu for a desktop and i want to make sure you cannot access my computer via SSH
[06:34] <Psil0Cybin> i tried running service ssh stop
[06:34] <Psil0Cybin> and it said unrecognized
[06:34] <tozen> Moseco_: GRUB has to be installed on /dev/sda
[06:34] <Psil0Cybin> so that means im not running it?
[06:34] <e_t_> Shadowandlight: passwd*
[06:34] <Mace268> sshd i think
[06:34] <Moseco_> lotuspsychje: You mean only use ubuntu?
[06:34] <lotuspsychje> Psil0Cybin: nmap yourself
[06:35] <tozen> Moseco_: not /dev/sda1 or /dev/sda2
[06:35] <lotuspsychje> Moseco_: yes, your system will be great
[06:35] <Psil0Cybin> sshd: unrecognized service it says that
[06:35] <Shadowandlight> user:x:1003:1004:user user,user,,:/var/www/wordpress:/bin/bash
[06:35] <Psil0Cybin> so im guessing it isnt running?
[06:35] <Shadowandlight> e_t_:
[06:35] <xmetal> i will be honest (esp with grub2) i am not sure how to edit the files manually (harder than grub legacy, and i thought that was a piece of cake) ... i would run "grub-customizer" and tell it to boot ubuntu first
[06:35] <Moseco_> lotuspsychje: I want to play games on windows side
[06:35] <lotuspsychje> !ssh | Psil0Cybin
[06:36] <Psil0Cybin> i know all that lotuspsychje i was just wondering how i can check quickly if my computer is able to be accessed via ssh
[06:36] <lotuspsychje> !info playonlinux | Moseco_
[06:36] <Psil0Cybin> i tried in my own terminal doing username@ip and trying to connect and it doesnt
[06:36] <xmetal> https://duckduckgo.com/?q=grub-customizer
[06:36] <Psil0Cybin> but im not sure if thats how i would check
[06:36] <vedrit> Hey, I'm trying to get my server (With a desktop environment) to share a secondary drive (Which is in NTSF format) on my network, but no matter which guide I follow, or what I do, I always get "Access denied" when I try to access from another machine
[06:36] <xmetal> cant remember the "offical homepage" for that
[06:36] <Moseco_> tozen: How do i change this?
[06:36] <lotuspsychje> Psil0Cybin: if ssh server deamon not running you cant ssh the machine
[06:37] <e_t_> Shadowandlight: yeah, so it warns you that the Dir exists, but still completes the command.
[06:37] <Shadowandlight> ok
[06:37] <tozen> Moseco_: just pop in installation cd and tipe in console sudo grub-install .dev.sda
[06:37] <tozen> */dev/sda
[06:37] <Moseco_> lotuspsychje: Cool, thanks ill check it out
[06:37] <tozen> sorry
[06:37] <lotuspsychje> !steam | Moseco_
[06:38] <Psil0Cybin> kk but what process does the ssh server deamon use lotuspsychje.
[06:38] <Moseco_> tozen: I can get to ubuntu so can i do this command in the installation
[06:39] <tozen> Moseco_: what??
[06:39] <Moseco_> tozen: and do you mean /dev/sda?
[06:39] <lotuspsychje> Psil0Cybin: read the url on ssh ive triggered you
[06:39] <tozen> Moseco_: I fix it aleady, pal ;)
[06:39] <Psil0Cybin> okay
[06:39] <Psil0Cybin> thanks\
[06:40] <Moseco_> tozen: i see it now :P
[06:40] <xmetal> i'd look at http://www.noobslab.com/2013/04/customize-grub-with-grub-customizer-in.html
[06:40] <lotuspsychje> Psil0Cybin: you can nmap -PN -sV yourIPadress to see what open ports you have
[06:40] <Moseco_> tozen: Will doing this effect my windows installation on a seperate disk or does this just make it so grub is booted first?
[06:40] <xmetal> and tell it where ubuntu is and "set that as default"
[06:40] <lotuspsychje> !info nmap > Psil0Cybin
[06:41] <tozen> Moseco_: grub will be booted first
[06:41] <Psil0Cybin> perfect thank you lotuspsychje you are a ton of help1
[06:41] <Hexagonite> I have an integrated Radeon HD graphics card; what proprietary driver should I install? Experimental beta of post-release updates?
[06:41] <lotuspsychje> Psil0Cybin: no problem mate :p
[06:41] <tozen> Moseco_: showing sitems list to be booted
[06:41] <Guest10099> gserg
[06:41] <xmetal> isn't the issue grub boots, but windows is set to default?
[06:41] <lotuspsychje> Hexagonite: what driver did ubuntu choose as default?
[06:42] <xmetal> (and they want ubuntu as default)
[06:42] <Hexagonite> lotuspsychje: None of them? It's from the Additional Drivers window.
[06:42] <lotuspsychje> Hexagonite: does it show 2 grafix drivers?
[06:42] <Moseco_> tozen: when i run sudo efibootmgr it still says http://paste.ubuntu.com/6023160/
[06:43] <Hexagonite> lotuspsychje: yes, just what I said
[06:43] <lotuspsychje> Hexagonite: try one out, and see for yourself if graphics work for you
[06:43] <tozen> Moseco_: have u tried to reboot yor machine?
[06:44] <Psil0Cybin> xNmap scan report for 192.168.0.185 Host is up (0.0018s latency).All 1000 scanned ports on 192.168.0.185 are closed....looks like i am in the clear.
[06:44] <Moseco_> tozen: I will try the reboot now, thanks for the help if i dont make it back :P
[06:44] <Psil0Cybin> right lotuspsychje
[06:44] <Hexagonite> lotuspsychje: that sounds extremely helpful.
[06:44] <Hexagonite> What driver do I install, anyone?
[06:44] <lotuspsychje> Psil0Cybin: try nmap -PN -sV localhost too
[06:44] <Psil0Cybin> but im running a server off my raspberry pi, so would it pick that up
[06:44] <Psil0Cybin> if im canning local host?
[06:45] <Psil0Cybin> i know i can ssh into the Pi, im just curious if i dint install any ssh server stuff if it was still possible
[06:45] <helmut_> hi
[06:45] <lotuspsychje> Psil0Cybin: oh sorry, you where doing localhost try external ip
[06:45] <Moseco> tozen: I rebooted and windows still boots by default
[06:45] <Psil0Cybin> lotuspsychje: when i scanned for localhost i got this
[06:45] <Psil0Cybin> 53/tcp  open  domain  dnsmasq 2.59
[06:45] <Psil0Cybin> 631/tcp open  ipp     CUPS 1.5
[06:46] <lotuspsychje> Psil0Cybin: your good to go :p
[06:46] <lotuspsychje> !security > Psil0Cybin
[06:47] <tozen> Moseco: what if try to push and hold Shift during startup?
[06:47] <Psil0Cybin> wowww thats bomb! I love it i used nmap to scan my ip :P and it found my Pi it showing ssh server and nginx :) the ssh server being my raspberry pi
[06:47] <Psil0Cybin> oh man this is nice
[06:47] <Psil0Cybin> thanks for telling me about this tool
[06:47] <Psil0Cybin> linux networking applications are incredible.
[06:48] <Psil0Cybin> i fall more and more inlove with linux as the days go on.
[06:48] <Psil0Cybin> wow
[06:48] <lotuspsychje> !yay | Psil0Cybin
[06:48] <lotuspsychje> Psil0Cybin: if you need any other handy ubuntu toolz just ask :p
[06:49] <tozen> Moseco: I would recomend to read this manual as well:https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI
[06:49] <Moseco> tozen: still boots windows, was holding shift from splash screen until i say windows start up
[06:49] <Psil0Cybin> Yea i will! Thank you for being so friendly lotuspsychje one day i will among you answering questions (my goal within the end of the year.)
[06:49] <LSNH>  /ns register lsnh_px lsnh@foxmail.com
[06:49] <lotuspsychje> Psil0Cybin: we are all here for same reason :p
[06:50] <Moseco> tozen: saw*
[06:50] <wilee-nilee> !register | LSNH
[06:50] <tozen> Moseco: just let to know if it helps
[06:51] <Moseco> tozen: Ill take a look, thanks
[06:54] <lotuspsychje> are there indicators for unity that can show syslog errors?
[06:55] <Moseco> tozen: When i set the bios to boot in uefi mode it does not find any bootable disk
[06:55] <Moseco> tozen: (that was something in the tutorial)
[06:55] <xmetal> i must be missing something here
[06:55] <xmetal> i would think its a simple grub config issue
[06:56] <Moseco> tozen: So basically it either boots windows or does not find a bootable disk
[06:56] <lotuspsychje> Moseco: i would disable uefi and single install ubuntu :p
[06:57] <xmetal> ah ha ... the codename for Unbuntu is raring? ... just found that out
[06:57] <xmetal> lol
[06:57] <Moseco> lotuspsychje: Youre quite adamant about ubuntu being the answer to everything :P
[06:57] <funyboy240> Eureka! What is your real name? Welcome to my chat room, found that out.
[06:57] <xmetal> i see "raring" and i think programs like winrar and file compression
[06:57] <funyboy240> Where do you see it? Since when? Is that a sign?
[06:57] <lotuspsychje> !raring | xmetal
[06:57] <funyboy240> I've never heard of them before.
[06:57] <xmetal> i see an irc ignore coming on
[06:58] <funyboy240> Where do you see it?
[06:58] <lotuspsychje> funyboy240: plz stop it
[06:58] <funyboy240> "it" being an irc ignore coming on?
[06:58] <lotuspsychje> funyboy240: this is an ubuntu support channel
[06:58] <funyboy240> I think funyboy240 this is much more than that.
[06:58] <lotuspsychje> !ops | funyboy240
[06:58] <funyboy240> Hey, MindysAss. Are we still talking about trying to run an application which depends on libwx gtk2u core 2 point 8 so point 0 the file?
[06:59] <xmetal> ;) i am on a different distro ... though the next one i'd download would be ubuntu (i'd be unsure if i'd go for a LTS release or the brand new version)
[06:59] <funyboy240> :-) How do you like being on it? Who told you that?
[06:59] <xmetal> ignored
[06:59] <Flannel> funyboy240: Please stop.
[06:59] <xmetal> :)
[06:59] <funyboy240> When do you think Mindy's Ass will take over the world?
[07:00] <funyboy240> !ops | lotuspsychje
[07:00] <funyboy240> I'm a funny boy!
[07:00] <vedrit> Hey, I'm trying to get my server (With a desktop environment) to share a secondary drive (Which is in NTSF format) on my network, but no matter which guide I follow, or what I do, I always get "Access denied" when I try to access from another machine
[07:01] <lotuspsychje> vedrit: did you try samba?
[07:01] <lotuspsychje> Flannel: tnx
[07:01] <vedrit> lotuspsychje: That's what I'm trying to host through
[07:01] <lotuspsychje> !samba | vedrit
[07:01] <vedrit> Yes, I've read through those
[07:01] <fuunnyboy243> Aha. I don't think I've read that. Can you give me a reference?
[07:01] <vedrit> I still can't access my drive
[07:01] <fuunnyboy243> What would make you stop can not access your drive? Why can't you do it?
[07:02] <vedrit> fuunnnyboy243 what?
[07:02] <lotuspsychje> vedrit: got a router blocking maybe?
[07:02] <hexy> Hey people, I installed a bad grahics driver and now I can't see anything, how do I remove all graphic drivers to revert to generic default??
[07:02] <hexy> I'm in shell on recovery mode
[07:02] <lotuspsychje> hexy: what grafix card chipset and driver?
[07:02]  * xmetal thanks Flannel for that :)
[07:03] <vedrit> My router shouldn't be filtering any local traffic
[07:03] <lotuspsychje> vedrit: wich ubuntu version?
[07:03] <vedrit> lotuspsychje: 12.04.02
[07:03] <wguo> rtl8188ce driver sucks,
[07:03] <hexy> nvidia geforece gt520
[07:03] <hexy> lotuspsychje:
[07:04] <lotuspsychje> !language | wguo
[07:04] <wguo> rtl8188ce driver not good
[07:04] <lotuspsychje> vedrit: how do you trying to access your ntfs drive?
[07:05] <vedrit> lotuspsychje: Map Network Drive
[07:05] <Moseco> tozen: The way i access my two OS is by loading manual select, if i want windows i select the windows boot manager, if i want ubuntu i pick a efi shell (which brings up grub). Is there a way  to set the efi shell as higher priority then windows boot manager?
[07:06] <vedrit> tried supplying login cridentials that I added with smdpasswd -a
[07:07] <sasuke> hi all, Can any one  tell me command  to get the "domain info" of vms in kvm with out sudo permission
[07:08] <wguo> any idea about http://coreos.com/
[07:08] <doomfail> hello
[07:08] <Caveat4U> sasuke, Could you be a little more verbose about yrou issue?
[07:08] <Caveat4U> hey doomfail
[07:08]  * doomfail 
[07:08] <wguo> i saw the doc said which os owns two root space
[07:08] <wguo> i saw the doc said coreos owns two root space
[07:09] <sasuke> Caveat4U, i am looking for the details of vms which are installed in kvm
[07:10] <Caveat4U> sasuke, what guest systems are you virtualizing?
[07:10] <sasuke> i got this "sudo virsh dominfo domain-name" .. But i dont have sudo privelages. I am looking for alternative command
[07:11] <sasuke> its kvm
[07:11] <Caveat4U> ohhhhh
[07:11] <Caveat4U> *cough* - sorry
[07:11] <Caveat4U> Just clicked
[07:11] <hypodog> ubuntor strikes back
[07:13] <ubuntor> rawrrrr
[07:13] <hypodog> good fun
[07:14] <Caveat4U> sasuke, well the vm is looped through /dev/kvm
[07:14] <sasuke> ?/
[07:15] <sasuke> can you elaborate
[07:15] <Caveat4U> gimme a minute here
[07:15] <Caveat4U> I'm trying to remember that damn command
[07:15] <DragYourHalo> Can anyone tell me why I'm getting errors? I posted a paste earlier but no one was around to answer.
[07:15] <DragYourHalo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6023929/
[07:17] <vedrit> Does Samba record and store logs anywhere?
[07:17] <vedrit> samba
[07:17] <sasuke> Caveat4U, can i open a private chat regarding this. it will be mess here if i paste the egs
[07:17] <vedrit> oops, wrong screen
[07:17] <Caveat4U> sasuke, I'm afraid all I've got is a wild guess
[07:18] <Caveat4U> Because I would say maybe you should try udisks to mount /dev/kvms
[07:18] <vedrit> sasuke: why not use pastebin?
[07:18] <Caveat4U> (since you don't have access to root)
[07:18] <Caveat4U> That's my only idea though
[07:19] <Caveat4U> I'm not that familiar with it - you had the right command is you were using root
[07:20] <sasuke> np
[07:20] <sasuke> i googled it . These are the exact commands 1. "sudo virsh list --all" or virsh -r -c qemu:///system list --all and 2. "sudo virsh dominfo domain-name" , but didnt get the alternative command for 2nd cmd
[07:20] <Caveat4U> Since linux tries to turn everything into a file, it MIGHT be possible to use the file as an interface
[07:21] <ShapeShifter499> is there a way to read the clock of my GPU?
[07:21] <ShapeShifter499> in ubuntu
[07:22] <Caveat4U> ShapeShifter499, maybe http://askubuntu.com/questions/277418/program-to-monitor-gpu-temp-usage-for-amd-cards
[07:22] <sasuke> Caveat4U, my eng is little bit bad. have you got the problem what i'm facing
[07:23] <aeon-ltd> ShapeShifter499: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[07:23] <Caveat4U> sasuke, unfortunately I don't think I'm gonna be able to help you on this one. Sorry :-(
[07:23] <ShapeShifter499> Caveat4U, I have a AMD card but not those fglrx drivers
[07:23] <Caveat4U> aeon-ltd, does that really show more than cpuinfo?
[07:23] <ShapeShifter499> aeon-ltd, um GPU not CPU
[07:24] <aeon-ltd> oh orry
[07:24] <aeon-ltd> *sory
[07:24] <aeon-ltd> damnit
[07:24] <ShapeShifter499> :p
[07:24] <aeon-ltd> dammit
[07:24] <sasuke> :) np
[07:24] <FloodBot1> aeon-ltd: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:24] <xmetal> blame the keyboard
[07:24] <Caveat4U> aeon-ltd, I know
[07:24] <xmetal> :P
[07:26] <Caveat4U> ShapeShifter499, maybe `sudo lshw -C display`?
[07:26] <Caveat4U> or do you have the `glxinfo` or `aitconfig` packages installed?
[07:27] <Caveat4U> DragYourHalo,
[07:27] <Caveat4U> Hey
[07:28] <DragYourHalo> Hello
[07:28] <ShapeShifter499> Caveat4U, lshw says my GPU clock is 33MHz..... um that can't be right, can it?
[07:28] <Caveat4U> DragYourHalo, I see your pastebin, but I wasn't in the channel earlier - could you paste your infor again?
[07:29] <DragYourHalo> Caveat4U what info? PC info? Desktop Ubuntu 12.10
[07:29] <Caveat4U> ShapeShifter499, I think that's just what you're processor is set to run at, but not the active usage, which is I think what you're trying to get...right?
[07:30] <ShapeShifter499> no
[07:30] <DragYourHalo> Trying to install mysqltcl3.05 and it keeps telling me libmysqlclient isn't installed and it is.
[07:30] <ShapeShifter499> I want to know how fast this goes at
[07:30] <Caveat4U> DragYourHalo, I found your error
[07:30] <Caveat4U> my bad
[07:30] <lotuspsychje> !lamp | DragYourHalo
[07:30] <ShapeShifter499> Caveat4U, I have a hacked bios option to overclock but I haven't a clue if it's working
[07:30] <DragYourHalo> Seriously?
[07:30]  * DragYourHalo smacks forehead
[07:30] <DragYourHalo> Lemme try that real quick.
[07:31] <Caveat4U> ShapeShifter499, ahhh
[07:32] <Caveat4U> ShapeShifter499, the only way I could think of checking it would be to go back into your bios, change it back, and re-enter the OS
[07:32] <ShapeShifter499> Caveat4U, right now it should be at default
[07:33] <Caveat4U> ShapeShifter499, Off the top of your head, do you know your graphics card model?
[07:33]  * Caveat4U doesn't know mine...
[07:33] <ShapeShifter499> Caveat4U, it's a  ATI Radeon HD 4200
[07:35] <Caveat4U> ShapeShifter499, What were you getting?
[07:35] <Caveat4U> 33?
[07:35] <ShapeShifter499> well if that command is correct, yes
[07:35] <DragYourHalo> Caveat4U: I went to the page and did tasksel and it flashed an install screen and then went back to bash. Still same error.
[07:35] <ShapeShifter499> if that program is right....
[07:35] <Caveat4U> ShapeShifter499, According to Dr. Google your card should be clocking 500 MHZ
[07:36] <Caveat4U> So that isn't working
[07:36] <ShapeShifter499> I haven'
[07:36] <ShapeShifter499> I haven't changed anything is bios yet
[07:36] <Caveat4U> I know - I'm saying, bu default, it should be at 500 MHZ
[07:37] <Caveat4U> ...I think
[07:38] <DragYourHalo> Caveat4U: all parts of lamp are already installed to newest version.
[07:38] <Caveat4U> ShapeShifter499, MAYBE you might be able to find something in phoronix-test-suite
[07:39] <Caveat4U> ShapeShifter499, don't quote me on this, but I would be that the GPU would be clocked in one of those tests
[07:39] <Caveat4U> DragYourHalo, OK - gimme a sec here
[07:40] <ShapeShifter499> Caveat4U, http://www.phoronix-test-suite.com??
[07:40] <Caveat4U> ShapeShifter499, yup. But like I said - just a shot in the dark at this point
[07:41] <ShapeShifter499> should give me something
[07:41] <ShapeShifter499> Caveat4U, trying it now
[07:41] <Caveat4U> DragYourHalo, OK - can you try:
[07:42] <Caveat4U> `ps aux | grep mysql`
[07:42] <Caveat4U> I have a hunch
[07:42] <DragYourHalo> Want the two lines in here or pastebin?
[07:42] <Caveat4U> here's fine
[07:42] <DragYourHalo> mysql 1128 0.0 1.0 317924 34000 ? Ssl 01:07 0:08 /usr/sbin/mysqld
[07:42] <DragYourHalo> jared 12037 0.0 0.0 4396 840 pts/2 S+ 03:42 0:00 grep --color=auto mysql
[07:43] <Caveat4U> DragYourHalo, I hate asking this question (because I hate BEING asked this question) but what are you trying to do?
[07:43] <ShapeShifter499> Caveat4U, I give up
[07:43] <Caveat4U> Just run a LAMP stack
[07:44] <Caveat4U> Sorry ShapeShifter499
[07:44] <ShapeShifter499> at least I don't run the risk of lighting my computer on fire
[07:44] <Caveat4U> ShapeShifter499, that could be a fun night with teqila
[07:44] <Caveat4U> Like burning man
[07:44] <Caveat4U> ...
[07:44] <ShapeShifter499> lol
[07:45] <DragYourHalo> Caveat4U, I am trying to install mysqltcl 3.05 so I can link my eggdrop bot to my sql database. The script uses mysqltcl and it's what I'm stuck on.
[07:45] <Caveat4U> DragYourHalo, gotcha
[07:46] <Caveat4U> And it says that mysqlclient....dev is not installed - right?
[07:46] <DragYourHalo> Correct
[07:46] <DragYourHalo> I removed and reinstalled the libmysqlclient via apt-get a couple of times to no avail
[07:46] <DragYourHalo> ubuntu says it installed... but the libmysqlclient.so file doesn't exist anywhere.
[07:47] <DragYourHalo> I've NEVER had this problem before.
[07:47] <Caveat4U> DragYourHalo, I've run into something like this before and as strange as this is going to sound, I've had luck through (get this) the aptitude UI
[07:47] <Caveat4U> syntaptic*
[07:47] <DragYourHalo> You mean that ugly Software center?
[07:47] <Caveat4U> no no no
[07:48] <Caveat4U> sudo apt-get install syntaptic
[07:48] <BullShark> can i compile that ugly software center in debian lol
[07:49] <DragYourHalo> Installing it now
[07:49] <Caveat4U> DragYourHalo, play with it - I'm switching Distros really fast - brb
[07:50] <BullShark> can ubuntu Unity be compiled in Arch Linux?
[07:52] <BullShark> where's the source so i can run a make install
[07:52] <HypnotiX> morning
[07:52] <ese> i want a thank averybody for your help on this lenovo z585 with dual boot win 7 + precise, my issue its been solved with the sound driver http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2170099  ...now i need the touch keys to work , thank you again
[07:52] <lotuspsychje> HypnotiX: hi mate
[07:52] <HypnotiX> i figured it out lotuspsychje
[07:53] <Slart> BullShark: isn't unity a regular package? apt should be able to find the source if it is
[07:53] <BullShark> Hyperbyte :: too early. go back to sleep.
[07:53] <lotuspsychje> !yay | ese
[07:53] <lotuspsychje> HypnotiX: what was the issue mate?
[07:53] <HypnotiX> this hdd was previously used in a raid
[07:53] <HypnotiX> thats why the ubuntu installer didnt see
[07:53] <BullShark> Slart :: i don't know. i don't run ubuntu.
[07:53] <HypnotiX> i had to remove the raid stuff from the hdd, and then it worked just fine
[07:53] <xmetal> i know mint has unity in the repo
[07:53] <lotuspsychje> HypnotiX: ive suspected it, it maked no sense ubuntu could not see
[07:54] <Slart> BullShark: ah.. not enough coffee in the system yet.. check packages.ubuntu.com  if you find the unity package there should be links to the source as well
[07:54] <BullShark> Slart :: apt-get --simulate --print-urls install unity
[07:54] <HypnotiX> tell me how to scan this hdd for bad sectors and do a smart test pls
[07:54] <lotuspsychje> HypnotiX: so you know are full ubuntu clean install?
[07:54] <HypnotiX> yes lotuspsychje
[07:54] <BullShark> Slart :: i meant apt-get source, not install
[07:54] <lotuspsychje> !info testdisk | HypnotiX
[07:54] <BullShark> should give a url to the source
[07:56] <HypnotiX> smart data shows 22 bad sectors, can i try to repair them ?
[07:56] <nowayride> HypnotiX: what does smartctl -a /dev/sda (or sdX or whatever) about uncorrectable offline, reallocated, pending, etc
[07:56] <lotuspsychje> HypnotiX: in your new WD drive?
[07:57] <nowayride> 22 is kind of a lot of bad sectors...
[07:57] <HypnotiX> have to install smartctl first :)
[07:57] <nowayride> If it already had raid metadata I'd question if it was new..
[07:57] <Caveat4U> nowayride, Agreed - time for a new HD
[07:57] <HypnotiX> its not new, i got it from a friend that didnt use it much
[07:58] <HypnotiX> nowayride: what do i need to install to run smartctl
[07:58] <nowayride> smartmontools
[07:58] <HypnotiX> ok
[07:58] <nowayride> Just typing smartctl (or any package) should tell you the base package(s) you need to install BTW
[07:59] <lotuspsychje> HypnotiX: man badblocks
[07:59] <HypnotiX> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6024199/ smartctl output
[07:59] <alxndr> i suspect phone kernel is throwing an excenption and a bunch of ones
[07:59] <nowayride> So %pre should trigger before the installer starts hitting downloads no?
[08:00] <alxndr> 12.04.2 LTS
[08:00] <lotuspsychje> HypnotiX: smart test passed, i would use the drive till it dies
[08:00] <Caveat4U> Who was I working with with the mysql issue?
[08:00] <lotuspsychje> HypnotiX: you got other errors on ubuntu or freezes?
[08:00] <Caveat4U> I can't remember the damn nick
[08:00] <HypnotiX> no m8, i just need to decide if i should buy it or not
[08:00] <lotuspsychje> Caveat4U: Sharp...
[08:00] <nowayride> That drive has like 280 days of use on it.. so it wasn't that lightly used. 22 isn't terrible and they're pending, the offline unc isn't good though
[08:01] <lotuspsychje> HypnotiX: lol dont buy a hd with bad sectors
[08:01] <nowayride> lotuspsychje: smart can "pass" and the drive still corrupts data
[08:01] <Caveat4U> lotuspsychje, I changed Linux distros and lost all my logs
[08:01] <user> nowayride: 20 pending sectors? Throw it away
[08:01] <user> A drive with 1 pending sector should be written off
[08:02] <lotuspsychje> nowayride: i know, but if he had the hd fofr free, i would use it till it dies completly
[08:02] <nowayride> user: I agree, if it was free I'd still find a use for it, HypnotiX basically it isn't "dead" but if it gets any more errors you'll be getting filesystem issues prett yquickly
[08:02] <HypnotiX> damn ok
[08:02] <lotuspsychje> :p
[08:02] <nowayride> lotuspsychje: exactly, it's not completely gone but it's not something I'd put my homework on
[08:02] <lotuspsychje> HypnotiX: i got good experiences on seagates and ubuntu
[08:02] <HypnotiX> so i shouldnt buy it
[08:02] <nowayride> Buy? No
[08:03] <Caveat4U> HypnotiX, definetely not
[08:03] <nowayride> Unless it's dirt cheap and you want a junk drive to play with, I wouldn't use it for a normal drive
[08:03] <lotuspsychje> HypnotiX: if you want rocketfast ubuntu, buy a cheap ssd
[08:03] <HypnotiX> this smart data cant be wrong right?
[08:03] <nowayride> Um, no. That's from the drive's controller
[08:03] <HypnotiX> okay
[08:04] <nowayride> What size/how much is he asking
[08:04] <DX099> hellhello, I'm trying to have docky to load at the start of my mate session : http://paste.ubuntu.com/6024194/ . This is the .desktop file in /etc/xdg/autostart. Is anything wrong ?
[08:04] <HypnotiX> so what hdd do you guys recommend if im not too offtopic :)
[08:04] <nowayride> Just curious
[08:04] <lotuspsychje> nowayride: its a 1tb WD
[08:04] <HypnotiX> well its like 30% off shop price
[08:04] <lotuspsychje> HypnotiX: lol def not buy it
[08:04] <nowayride> Yeah no..
[08:05] <lotuspsychje> DX099: this is an ubuntu support channel, not mate
[08:05] <HypnotiX> i really want a viable hdd, wd or seagate? :P
[08:05] <HypnotiX> i dont care much for speed
[08:05] <lotuspsychje> HypnotiX: seagate is stable as rock
[08:06] <Caveat4U> HypnotiX, oh wait - wait is the type of HD you were considering buying off your friends?
[08:06] <Caveat4U> as in brand?
[08:06] <HypnotiX> wd
[08:06] <HypnotiX> black
[08:06] <lotuspsychje> HypnotiX: try the ##hardware channel to ask best buys mate
[08:07] <nowayride> HypnotiX: depending on budget, the 2tb-3tb range is a pretty good bang for buck. I forget which, but one costs really close to the next lowest size tier, and the next up is way more
[08:07] <Monkeytoe> is there any way to get rid of desktop tearing in xubuntu? I have the nvidia drivers installed, its on 120hz ... not sure what else to do
[08:07] <DragYourHalo> Caveat4U: tried synaptic and manually installing the .deb file via sudo dpkg and still getting that error. I even went as far as to remove LAMP completely and reinstall. Nothing.
[08:07] <Caveat4U> DragYourHalo, OK -
[08:07] <DragYourHalo> Could it be a fullblown bad base system?
[08:07] <Caveat4U> Can you throw me your pastebin one more time
[08:08] <DragYourHalo> Can anyone tell me why I'm getting errors? I posted a paste earlier but no one was around to answer.
[08:08] <DragYourHalo> bah
[08:08] <DragYourHalo> Wrong line
[08:08] <DragYourHalo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6023929/
[08:08] <Caveat4U> DragYourHalo, nah - there's ALWAYS something funky that happens with libmysqlclient-dev
[08:08] <Monkeytoe> the system runs steam games fine, plays HD movies fine with no tearing... but any time I drag a window around on the desktop or scroll in firefox I get massive screen tearing
[08:08] <DragYourHalo> Probably a stupid question... BUT... could upgrading to 13.04 fix the problem or make it owrk?
[08:09] <Monkeytoe> I am using 13.04 :(
[08:09] <Caveat4U> DragYourHalo, defintely not
[08:09] <HypnotiX> thanx guys
[08:09] <lotuspsychje> Monkeytoe: are you using default driver from ubuntu install
[08:09] <Monkeytoe> no, using the nvidia one
[08:09] <lotuspsychje> Monkeytoe: did it show in your additional drivers?
[08:10] <Monkeytoe> yep
[08:10] <lotuspsychje> Monkeytoe: did default driver caused problems?
[08:11] <Monkeytoe> default drivers wouldnt show second monitor and the first monitor wouldnt use the full screen .. its like it was running at 1280 x 720 when the monitor runs at 1920x1080..
[08:11] <Caveat4U> DragYourHalo, give me a minute - I have another hunch
[08:11] <lotuspsychje> Monkeytoe: but you didnt experience tearing on default driver?
[08:12] <Monkeytoe> yes I experienced tearing
[08:12] <Monkeytoe> on both drivers
[08:12] <lotuspsychje> hmm
[08:12] <Monkeytoe> from what I understand from the searches I have done is this is an issue with compositing
[08:12] <lotuspsychje> Monkeytoe: what graphics card chip?
[08:12] <Monkeytoe> GTX Titan
[08:13] <gordonjcp> DragYourHalo: so what does the error line actually say?
[08:14] <DragYourHalo> checking for libmysqlclient lib... configure: error: Cannot find libmysqlclient.so in /usr/lib/mysql use --with-mysql-lib=?
[08:15] <lotuspsychje> Monkeytoe: maybe #xubuntu guys might know what causes the tearing, still looking up
[08:15] <Caveat4U> Ha - OK DragYourHalo - I THINK I found something
[08:15] <Caveat4U> Let me write the command
[08:15] <lotuspsychje> Monkeytoe: maybe this can help too: http://www.webupd8.org/2012/10/xfce-sync-to-vblank-support-for-xfwm.html
[08:16] <Monkeytoe> also I have tried installing compton as well
[08:16] <Monkeytoe> didnt seem to help
[08:17] <Monkeytoe> im thinking of just ditching xfce
[08:17] <lotuspsychje> Monkeytoe: can your system handle regular ubuntu?
[08:18] <Monkeytoe> yes but I dont like unity at all
[08:18] <lotuspsychje> Monkeytoe: test gnome shell maybe?
[08:19] <Monkeytoe> just install gnome from the software center?
[08:19] <lotuspsychje> !gnome | Monkeytoe
[08:19] <lotuspsychje> hmm
[08:19] <lotuspsychje> !info gnome-shell
[08:20] <Caveat4U> DragYourHalo, do you have the libmysqld-dev library installed to?
[08:20] <Caveat4U> too*
[08:21] <BabsSeed> wilee-nilee: Thanks for your help last night, looks like the default installer put grub on the wrong HDD. When I set up manual partitions it worked. Now I have RAID-10 working as well, Ubuntu looks much better than my old distro, far more desktop-worthy.
[08:21] <DragYourHalo> Caveat4U: installing it now. Apparently it wasn't.
[08:21] <DragYourHalo> I will attempt to install once more.
[08:21] <DragYourHalo> Caveat4U: same error
[08:21] <Caveat4U> damn
[08:22] <DragYourHalo> I just wanna smack it in the face lol
[08:22] <wilee-nilee> BabsSeed, No problem, glad you git it all going.
[08:22] <Monkeytoe> brb
[08:23] <Caveat4U> I COMPLETELY understand
[08:24] <DragYourHalo> Well I think I'm going to crash for the night. I will leave this channel open. If anyone gets any ideas, shoot me a pm and I will try them when I wake up.
[08:24] <DragYourHalo> Thanks again Caveat4U for the attempts. It'll get figured out.
[08:24] <Caveat4U> DragYourHalo, sorry dude - night
[08:25] <DragYourHalo> It's no problem. Thank you for your time.
[08:26] <bekks> DragYourHalo: Looks like you ae compiling your own LAMP stack?
[08:26] <Caveat4U> bekks - he was trying to install mysqltcl-3.05
[08:27] <bekks> tcl? OMG :D
[08:27] <Caveat4U> bekks, his pastebin is here http://paste.ubuntu.com/6023929/
[08:28] <bekks> Caveat4U: DragYourHalo: "use --with-mysql-lib=?" -- did you use that, when configuring?
[08:28] <Caveat4U> bekks, If you search is username - you can see what we tried
[08:28] <Caveat4U> http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2013/08/25/%23ubuntu.txt
[08:28] <Caveat4U> The problem was bekks that the program was looking in /usr/lib/mysql already
[08:29] <Caveat4U> which was supposedly where his schtuff was installed per a simple ls we did
[08:29] <Caveat4U> I couldn't figure out where else to specify
[08:30] <gordonjcp> Caveat4U: were the development headers installed?
[08:30] <gordonjcp> Caveat4U: installing just the client libraries isn't enough
[08:30] <bekks> Caveat4U: "--with-mysql-lib=/usr/lib/mysql" and the mysql headers are needed.
[08:31] <DragYourHalo> Saw you guys talking as I walked past... what do I need to see if it's installed?
[08:31] <Fudge> hi all, Ubuntu Precise using a 3.5 Quantal backported kernel. In a rescue prompt are the same Kernel modules able to be loaded, in this case speakup and speakup_soft
[08:32] <Caveat4U> gordonjcp, we did libmysqld-dev and libmysqlclient-dev
[08:32] <Caveat4U> gordonjcp, what other package(s) would you recommend?
[08:34] <nowayride> Okay so last shot before I pass out.. anyone know why wget might not be working on %pre? I just have a simple %pre \n wget url -O /dev/null but my webserver never sees the hit
[08:40] <Caveat4U> nowayride, maybe try a log fille
[08:41] <xkernel> where is the PAM log file? or how to investigate if an application failing to authenticate?
[08:41] <nowayride> Tried but it's before it installs so it never really saves it anwhere
[08:41] <Caveat4U> Like %pre --log=/root/my-post-log
[08:41] <Caveat4U> ?
[08:41] <nowayride> That logs to the final filesystem?
[08:41] <Caveat4U> Technically this is in centos's docs, http://wiki.centos.org/TipsAndTricks/KickStart
[08:42] <Caveat4U> Look for "Logging %pre and %post"
[08:42] <nowayride> O snap that might work
[08:42] <Caveat4U> Once again - a shot in the dark
[08:43] <nowayride> Progress over what I had
[08:43] <Caveat4U> nowayride, I'm out for the night - but good luck?
[08:43] <nowayride> Heh thanks that's a good find at least
[08:43] <Caveat4U> no worries
[08:43] <Caveat4U> night!
[08:46] <yellabs-r2> hello there
[08:46] <hexy> Hello
[08:46] <yellabs-r2> got new firefox, but it does not open transmission when opening torrents , it used to , but no any more..
[08:47] <Calrik> hi all I just after some advice Im not sure if I should run vmware-esx and run my ubuntu server in that with other vm's such as a windows xp client or run ubuntu server natively then use virtual box or something like that for the windows guest?
[08:47] <yellabs-r2> the "magnet" extension does not show either
[08:48] <nowayride> Calrik: how often are you going to use xp vs ubuntu
[08:49] <yellabs-r2> woud go for virtual box.. check it out, they got two versions though  one in ubuntu package channel ( open source version ) and one from website ( .deb ) the latter i found better
[08:49] <yellabs-r2> dual boot is also option afcause ..
[08:49] <Calrik> well the xp machine will need to provide ui for my security cameras
[08:49] <Calrik> I would have have both running
[08:50] <yellabs-r2> dedicated separate machine would be best ( in this case )
[08:50] <Calrik> ubuntu server going to hosting plex plus my web development server
[08:51] <saki`> does duplicate sources.list fuck with anything?
[08:51] <saki`> or is it entirely benign?
[08:51] <Calrik> would there a big performance drop if I use a virtual ubuntu appliance on esx server as a plex media server?
[08:51] <nowayride> ESXi might be a better bet, it's a true hypervisor meant for keeping multiple OSes running
[08:52] <Calrik> yer Im just installed ESXi
[08:52] <nowayride> There's also Xenserver and Xen :)
[08:52] <Calrik> but worried about the performance hit for server media files
[08:52] <Calrik> serving media files rather
[08:52] <BabsSeed> I can vouch for Xen not sucking
[08:53] <BabsSeed> I use it to run 4 OS's simultaneously
[08:53] <nowayride> Really if one is utilized a lot less than the other VB would be fine but XP is a little heavy compared to Ubuntu and might just drag it down a bit
[08:53] <Calrik> I would be running ubuntu server with no ui
[08:53] <nowayride> Xenserver's a lot easier to manage with CLI from what I've been finding
[08:53] <Calrik> xenserver got a mac client?
[08:54] <nowayride> Does ESXi? Pretty sure vSphere is Windows only
[08:54] <Calrik> esxi doesnt thats right
[08:55] <nowayride> I think both require Windows but there's openxenmanager for Xen/xapi that runs on mac/linux
[08:55] <nowayride> Linux version was really flaky for me though
[08:55] <Calrik> if xenserver does that I would be happy to reinstall esxi for xenserver otherwise no point wasting the 3 hours I spent on it already lol
[08:56] <nowayride> Ah.. I can't speak for the OS X client but http://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/openxenmanager/
[08:57] <nowayride> It runs on python and as I mentioned it was buggy for me, but it could have been Python version issues too
[08:58] <nowayride> But ESXi works fine too, a big diff is ESXi is heavily proprietary and Xenserver is built on Xen which is open source (which is where you get stuff like openxenmanager)
[09:00] <Calrik> thanks heaps all for your advice
[09:02] <Fudge> hi all, Ubuntu Precise using a 3.5 Quantal backported kernel. In a rescue prompt are the same Kernel modules able to be loaded, in this case speakup and speakup_softs
[09:26] <erdm> goog morning guys
[09:27] <kelvinella> hello guys, why recently my firefox is making the whole OS like a zombie??
[09:27] <bekks> kelvinella: Define "like a zombie" please.
[09:27] <kelvinella> even after i close firefox, the system is very unresponsive
[09:27] <kelvinella> i have to restart
[09:27] <kelvinella> just like something is using 100% CPU time
[09:27] <bekks> kelvinella: Then you have to check whats causing it - firefox is closed, so it cant be the reason then.
[09:28] <kelvinella> it usually happens on certain sites only
[09:28] <kelvinella> sometimes facebook
[09:28] <bekks> kelvinella: Then you have to check whats causing it.
[09:28] <kelvinella> i do killall firefox, the problem still exists
[09:28] <kelvinella> i dont know whats causing it and i dont know how to check
[09:29] <SwedeMike> kelvinella: start a terminal window, use "top"
[09:29] <kelvinella> i did
[09:29] <bekks> top, ps -aux, dmesg and lsb_release -a in a pastebin please.
[09:30] <kelvinella> I did "top" but I cant find anything suspicious
[09:30] <kelvinella> so i am stuck
[09:30] <erdm> i have an problem with my hd resolution in chromium/ytube. the newest nvidia drivers is installed, but scpae or hair is just with alittle blur
[09:30] <kelvinella> I think think it may have something to do with flash???
[09:30] <kelvinella> but i am not sure
[09:30] <erdm> in firefox it is the same
[09:31] <kelvinella> i am using chrome now and it has no problem for now
[09:31] <kelvinella> but i want to use firefox as my primary browser
[09:31] <erdm> ok, can i do a flash update ?
[09:31] <Monkeytoe> I have partitioned my usb stick as ext 4... when I copy files to it.. it never gives  a progress meter... it just acts like the files are instantly copied there... then when I try to unmount it ... it says I have to wait for files to finish writing.... how do I get it to write the files when I drag and drop them and more importantly show the progress?
[09:32] <bekks> kelvinella: Put the requested information into a pastebin please.
[09:32] <kelvinella> bekks, what information?
[09:32] <bekks>  < bekks> top, ps -aux, dmesg and lsb_release -a in a pastebin please.
[09:32] <bekks> That one.
[09:32] <kelvinella> now?
[09:32] <bekks> Yes.
[09:32] <kelvinella> but now i dont have any problem
[09:32] <Guest___> __
[09:32] <gwc593> ...
[09:33] <kelvinella> Because I havent fire up the firefox
[09:33] <bekks> kelvinella: Then reproduce it, and put the information into a pastebin.
[09:33] <kelvinella> let me try hold on
[09:34] <kelvinella> I am running firefox now, but sometimes it wont run into problems, so wait
[09:39] <jahm> Good day
[09:39] <sadgdagdas> good day
[09:40] <jahm> My Ubuntu xfce is acting weird
[09:40] <efxlab> morning
[09:40] <jahm> Every time I boot, the minimize, restore and close buttons are gone
[09:40] <jahm> I need to do xfwm4 --sm-client-disable
[09:40] <jahm> Is it always like this?
[09:40] <theadmin> jahm: That sounds like the window manager isn't getting started. I'm not sure what the reason may be, but you can simply add this command to your Startup Applications for a quick and dirty fix.
[09:41] <jahm> theadmin: how?
[09:41] <theadmin> jahm: Um. I can't remember Xfce, but go into Menu -> Settings -> Settings Manager and find... uh, "Startup Applications" or something along those lines.
[09:42] <theadmin> jahm: Can't remember the exact name
[09:43] <jahm> theadmin: no startup applications, but xfwm4 is present though
[09:48] <theadmin> jahm: xfce4-session-settings is the command to launch that startup apps thing.
[09:48] <dyu> how do i reduce the border size in byobu?
[09:51] <kelvinella> bekks, damn I still cant generate the problem yet
[09:51] <kelvinella> bekks, sometimes it just happen out of no where its hard to predict
[09:56] <bekks> kelvinella: Then you have to wait till it happens - without the information requested and gathered when it happens it is impossible to tell you whats actually happening.
[09:56] <kelvinella> bekks, ok
[09:56] <kelvinella> bekks, i am keep trying
[09:56] <oceanbreeze> Hello guys, can you please recommend me a nice, easy to set up ftp server for Ubuntu server 13.04?
[09:57] <bekks> oceanbreeze: vsftpd - but you should use SFTP instead of FTP nowadays.
[09:57] <oceanbreeze> bekks: Hey, whats the difference?
[09:57] <theadmin> oceanbreeze: FTP must die. Use SFTP instead -- just install openssh-server.
[09:58] <theadmin> oceanbreeze: Well, they are entirely different protocols. But SFTP is secure.
[09:58] <oceanbreeze> bekks: I need to simpy upload WP theme to my server from my pc :)
[09:58] <kelvinella> bekks, now its kinda slow
[09:58] <kelvinella> bekks, but not to a point where its extremely slow
[09:58] <kelvinella> do i do top now ? bekks
[09:58] <bekks> kelvinella: If you think you have that problem now, yes. Provide all the information requested.
[09:59] <kelvinella> its slow like hell
[09:59] <kelvinella> wait
[09:59] <bekks> oceanbreeze: If you just need a theme upload, use scp.
[09:59] <jahm> Man my xfce is broken
[10:00] <kelvinella> god it is slow openning pastebin
[10:00] <kelvinella> my computer is too slow now worse than win95
[10:01] <bekks> !pastebinit | kelvinella
[10:02] <kelvinella> i know where pastebin is but my computer is in zombie mode now
[10:02] <theadmin> I can't print from Chromium, what gives? "Something went wrong when trying to print.  Please check your printer and try again."
[10:02] <bekks> kelvinella: Whatever "zombie mode" is.
[10:02] <theadmin> bekks: It's when it needs extra brains ;)
[10:02] <kelvinella> nothing responding
[10:03] <kelvinella> i am still trying to get to pastebin wait
[10:04] <bekks> kelvinella: Then use pastebinit.
[10:04] <kelvinella> not the website
[10:04] <kelvinella> its my computer
[10:04] <kelvinella> even xchat is slow
[10:04] <bekks> Use pastebinit instead of your browser.
[10:04] <bekks> It will do the job much faster.
[10:04] <bekks> OR stop complaining and just wait.
[10:05] <HisaoNakai> kelvinella: try hastebin too.
[10:05] <theadmin> kelvinella: If you have slow hardware, maybe Lubuntu is a good choice. Just saying.
[10:06] <bekks> theadmin: He is having performance issues currently, and we are trying to investigate the reason.
[10:06] <kelvinella> not the hardware
[10:06] <kelvinella> nothing is wrong until using firefox
[10:06] <bekks> kelvinella: We dont know whats wrong, you dont either. ;)
[10:06] <bekks> kelvinella: Thats why I requested the information you are trying to get.
[10:07] <kelvinella> its a little alright now
[10:07] <kelvinella> there is a box popup saying unresponsive script
[10:07] <kelvinella> and i click stop
[10:07] <bekks> kelvinella: Use pastebinit to provide the information requested.
[10:07] <kelvinella> bekks, http://pastebin.com/btJFEijB
[10:08] <kelvinella> not website problem
[10:08] <bekks> kelvinella: In addition, we need "about:plugins" from firefox too.
[10:08] <kelvinella> its the computer not responding so i cant get to pastebin now i can
[10:08] <bekks> kelvinella: You dont have to repeat that on an on again.
[10:09] <bekks> kelvinella: But without all the information requested we cant help you.
[10:09] <oceanbreeze> bekks: I installed the vsftpd, i have a folder @ /var/www/html/wordpress with chmod -R 777 wordpress/ priviledges. While trying to access ftp://mysite.com, it ask for  login and password, but my default root password is not suitable.
[10:09] <kelvinella> wait
[10:09] <bekks> !root|oceanbreeze
[10:10] <HypnotiX> bekks: the problem i had with the installer was because the hdd was previously used in raid
[10:10] <bekks> oceanbreeze: And setting the HTML dir for wordpress to 777 - why dont you put the root account on the frontpage then? That will safe hackers from bruto forcing you.
[10:11] <bekks> HypnotiX: Blame it to your Dell PERC hw then ;)
[10:12] <HypnotiX> yeah :)
[10:14] <ChrisMorgan> I have had Caps Lock mapped to Backspace using the tools exposed in the control centre; Ubuntu 13.10 seems to have just scrapped that and I'm stuck with a partially broken Caps Lock key. By fiddling variously with xmodmap and telling it Caps Lock is *not* a lock key I can get it to work as Backspace correctly, but I don't know where the config is coming from. How did it work?
[10:14] <ChrisMorgan> How, then, can I modify the Caps Lock key behaviour config (as set in older versions of Ubuntu) without using the UI which is no longer in 13.10?
[10:14] <bekks> !ubuntu+1|ChrisMorgan
[10:15] <kelvinella> bekks, http://img818.imageshack.us/img818/7008/4ix0.png
[10:15] <MonkeyDust> ChrisMorgan  13.10 isn't ready yet
[10:15] <kelvinella> bekks, http://pastebin.com/btJFEijB
[10:15] <ChrisMorgan> bekks: I'm in there but getting no response; I changed the form of my question about so that it *does* apply to older versions: how is that config stored and enacted in the older versions?
[10:15] <jahm> Is there any way to uninstall xfce4?
[10:16] <theadmin> ChrisMorgan: Add this to startup: xmodmap -e 'keysym Caps_Lock = BackSpace'
[10:16] <bekks> kelvinella: And the other information requested?
[10:16] <kelvinella> bekks, my computer is super smooth now after i click the STOP button in the warning on unresponsive script in firefox but i dont know which site giving me this problem?
[10:16] <bekks> kelvinella: You dont have to tell us your computer is slow in every single sentence again and again.
[10:17] <theadmin> jahm: Yes, which environment do you want to switch to?
[10:17] <kelvinella> so any idea?
[10:17] <bekks> kelvinella: Where is the other information requested?
[10:17] <kelvinella> what do u mean?
[10:18] <kelvinella> http://img818.imageshack.us/img818/7008/4ix0.png , http://pastebin.com/btJFEijB
[10:18] <bekks> kelvinella:  < bekks>  < bekks> top, ps -aux, dmesg and lsb_release -a in a pastebin please.
[10:18] <kelvinella> oh i forgot that command
[10:18] <bekks> kelvinella: All you pasted until now is top and about:plugins
[10:19] <kelvinella> but now it isnt slow, so i have to wait?
[10:19] <kelvinella> or i do it now?
[10:19] <jahm> theadmin: well, my xfce4 is broken
[10:19] <jahm> I'm currently on Unity right now
[10:19] <jahm> Was hoping that by removing xfce4, and install it again, it will fix my xfce4
[10:19] <bekks> kelvinella: dmesg and lsb_release -a will stay the same.
[10:19] <bekks> kelvinella: So finally pastebin them.
[10:19] <theadmin> jahm: Ah. You can restore Xfce to default settings simply by removing .config/xfce4 from your $HOME.
[10:20] <jahm> theadmin: no need for me to uninstall it?
[10:20] <WinstonSmith> g'morning bekks
[10:20] <theadmin> jahm: Nope. Ain't Windows.
[10:20] <bekks> hi WinstonSmith
[10:20] <jahm> Ahh
[10:21] <jahm> Gonna log back to my xfce4
[10:21] <kelvinella> http://pastebin.com/cYbnD81Z
[10:21] <oceanbreeze> bekks: Haha, should i then put it somewhere else?
[10:21] <theadmin> jahm: No, do that from Unity or a TTY, not from Xfce.
[10:21] <bekks> oceanbreeze: No. You should never ever set 777 on a webserver directory.
[10:22] <kelvinella> http://pastebin.com/R9vzNgZ8
[10:22] <blablablub> q
[10:22] <oceanbreeze> bekks: Ok i got it, what should i set instead?
[10:22] <blablablub> \help
[10:22] <Aaruni> for some reason I cannot ssh into my ubuntu machine from my macintosh on my local network..
[10:22] <bekks> oceanbreeze: 755.
[10:22] <theadmin> Aaruni: Is openssh-server installed?
[10:22] <kelvinella> http://pastebin.com/Ju7xbji2
[10:22] <Aaruni> theadmin: yep
[10:23] <theadmin> Aaruni: Hmm. What do you get when you try to connect?
[10:23] <bekks> kelvinella: Your flash version 11.2 is freaking out. Since there is no newer version, put your complains to Adobe. Or use Chrome, not Chromium, to use PepperFlash 11.7
[10:23] <Aaruni> theadmin: it times out. ping gives 1 ms, but ssh times out
[10:23] <theadmin> Aaruni: Huh. That's... odd.
[10:23] <theadmin> Aaruni: On your Ubuntu box, do ssh $USER@localhost
[10:23] <theadmin> Aaruni: Does it work?
[10:24] <kelvinella> bekks, i think the problem happens after i installed the adobe pdf reader
[10:24] <Aaruni> theadmin: yes. works perfectly
[10:24] <kelvinella> because i need it to print pdf from the work
[10:24] <bekks> kelvinella: The adobe PDF reader has nothing to do with your flash freaking out.
[10:24] <theadmin> Aaruni: Okay, do you have any sort of firewall up?
[10:24] <kelvinella> so how do i update my flash?
[10:24] <theadmin> kelvinella: You can't. Adobe decided to kill Flash for Linux.
[10:24] <Aaruni> theadmin: I have firestarter installed, but I keep it off, except when needed to monitor connections
[10:24] <bekks> kelvinella: You cant. You have to use Chrome with PepperFlash 11.7
[10:24] <theadmin> kelvinella: Google have their own implementation of Flash, but you can only use it in Chrome.
[10:25] <bekks> kelvinella: Adobe stopped providing newer versions than 11.2 natively.
[10:25] <oceanbreeze> bekks: Ok, done. Now back to topic :) What is the default login and password to access my ftp server created via vsftpd? Or should i create em manually?
[10:25] <kelvinella> so what do i need to do now?
[10:25] <kelvinella> i want to use firefox
[10:25] <theadmin> Aaruni: Please say what "sudo ufw status" says,
[10:25] <bekks> oceanbreeze: There is no default. You have to configure your server.
[10:25] <bekks> kelvinella: Dont use those sites then. You've been toild the only solution.
[10:25] <Aaruni> theadmin: Status: inactive
[10:25] <theadmin> Aaruni: ...Huh. Any sort of firewall on your LAN, e.g. a router etc?
[10:26] <jahm> theadmin: sir
[10:26] <jahm> theadmin: how do I remove the thing that you told me earlier?
[10:26] <Aaruni> theadmin: there is a router, but it doesn't provide firewall. I can ssh into macintosh just fine, but not the other way round
[10:27] <theadmin> jahm: That'd be "ma'am", please avoid gender-related assumptions. But just open a terminal and paste this in: rm -r ~/.config/xfce4. Do NOT do this from inside of Xfce (removing a program's settings while it's running is always a rather bad idea)
[10:27] <jahm> Oh sorry ma'am
[10:27] <oceanbreeze> bekks: Can't i just use my root user for that purpose?
[10:27] <jahm> theadmin: oh I'm on xfce right now
[10:28] <theadmin> Aaruni: Hmm... This is strange, please pastebin your /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[10:28] <jahm> Could you do me a favour and paste that again later when I'm on Unity please/
[10:28] <theadmin> jahm: Sure thing
[10:28] <bekks> oceanbreeze: Your dont have a root user with a valid password. And using FTP as root is even more insecure as setting 777 for a webserver. Dont even think about doing it.
[10:28] <Aaruni> theadmin: http://txt.krow.me/1271/
[10:29] <jahm> Hi back
[10:29] <jahm> theadmin: what was it again mam?
[10:29] <jahm> Sorry for the hassle :\
[10:30] <usr13> oceanbreeze:  Using root for user for any purpose is not an option.
[10:30] <Aaruni> jahm: rm -r ~/.config/xfce4
[10:30] <theadmin> jahm: What Aaruni said, sorry, was looking at his/her/its pastebin
[10:30] <jahm> Aaruni: thanks
[10:30] <Aaruni> theadmin: "its" ? :/
[10:31] <usr13> oceanbreeze: I'm late in the conversation. Is this a webserver you are working on?
[10:31] <theadmin> Aaruni: I don't discriminate, not even against robots :D
[10:31] <Aaruni> I assure you I am a human, not a bot
[10:31] <theadmin> Aaruni: Sorry, is joke
[10:31] <jahm> So does this fix my startup manager problem?
[10:31] <oceanbreeze> usr13: vsftpd
[10:31] <Aaruni> theadmin: no offence taken
[10:31] <theadmin> jahm: Probably. It just resets Xfce to default settings, is all
[10:31] <oceanbreeze> I have a folder @ /var/www/html/wordpress
[10:31] <jahm> I see
[10:31] <usr13> oceanbreeze: And what are you using vsftpd for?
[10:31] <theadmin> Aaruni: Hm. This looks correct. Sorry, I have no idea what the problem may be
[10:32] <oceanbreeze> usr13: I have a folder @ /var/www/html/wordpress with 755 priviledges.
[10:32] <jahm> Gonna transfer to my xfce4 now
[10:32] <Aaruni> you think its a problem on the macintosh side of things ?
[10:32] <usr13> oceanbreeze: Ok.  And you are running apache webserver serving from /var/www/ ?
[10:32] <theadmin> Aaruni: Maybe. What's the command you're using to connect?
[10:32] <oceanbreeze> usr13: WP themes upload/ Yep, apache2 with mysql.
[10:32] <Aaruni> theadmin: ssh -X user@ip
[10:32] <theadmin> Aaruni: Try without -X for starters
[10:32] <usr13> oceanbreeze: yes 755 for directories
[10:33] <WinstonSmith> Aaruni: may i suggest that you run ssh -vvv for verbose output
[10:33] <theadmin> Aaruni: -X may not work on Mac, it'd need a local Xorg server I think
[10:33] <oceanbreeze> usr13: We got to the point where most likely i need to create users somehow, if i got it right :)
[10:34] <usr13> oceanbreeze: 755 for directories, 644 for files, (S.O.P.)
[10:34] <jahm> Man
[10:34] <jahm> This problem is annoying
[10:34] <usr13> oceanbreeze: Yes, create users. Exactly.  Here is the way I would handle it.
[10:34] <theadmin> jahm: Is it still broken?
[10:34] <jahm> Yeah
[10:34] <jahm> :(
[10:35] <Aaruni> theadmin: doesn't work w/o -X either
[10:35] <theadmin> Aaruni: Blimey... :/
[10:35] <oceanbreeze> usr13: Yes? :)
[10:35] <usr13> oceanbreeze: Create user account for each site or set of sites and use symlinks.  That way each separate user logs in to it's own /home/ account.
[10:35] <theadmin> Aaruni: Try with ssh -2 -4 user@ip
[10:35] <Aaruni> theadmin: ok
[10:36] <usr13> oceanbreeze: Use symlinks from the /home/ accounts to /var/www/
[10:36] <oceanbreeze> usr13: Let's start with one! :)
[10:36] <Aaruni> ok, this is strange
[10:36] <Orpheon> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6024569/ <-- Any help?
[10:36] <Aaruni> instead of switching systems, I decided to ssh into macintosh, and then ssh back into ubuntu
[10:36] <Aaruni> but..
[10:37] <usr13> oceanbreeze: Instead of having the actual files in /var/www/  they can all just be symlinks.  Move the directories to the various /home/ directories and create symlinks.
[10:37] <WinstonSmith> Aaruni: as i said before, try connecting with "ssh -vvv user@host", as it will give you a ton of output. else look at the ssh server log
[10:37] <Aaruni> theadmin, WinstonSmith : http://txt.krow.me/1272/
[10:37] <usr13> oceanbreeze: The ftp server by default, jails the user in his /home/dir
[10:38] <oceanbreeze> usr13: Aha.
[10:38] <oceanbreeze> usr13: useradd <username>, should i create a user this way?
[10:38] <WinstonSmith> Aaruni: is that box accessible? is the port open? is the ssh server running?
[10:38] <theadmin> oceanbreeze: Use "adduser", it's easier
[10:38] <Aaruni> WinstonSmith: how do I check ?
[10:38] <theadmin> WinstonSmith: Yes, yes and yes, I checked those for him/her already
[10:38] <jahm> :(
[10:39] <Aaruni> theadmin: him
[10:39] <theadmin> WinstonSmith: (s)he can ssh into localhost from that box
[10:39] <theadmin> Aaruni: Ah, okay, thanks
[10:39] <usr13> oceanbreeze: ln -s /home/user1/html /var/www/site1  or  ln -s /home/user1/public_html  /var/www/wrodpress-site1
[10:39] <WinstonSmith> theadmin: oh sorry for hijacking then :/
[10:39] <WinstonSmith> Aaruni: is a firewall running on the server?
[10:39] <oceanbreeze> theadmin: Thanks
[10:39] <theadmin> WinstonSmith: No prob, just speeding it up for ya :D
[10:40] <WinstonSmith> \o/
[10:40] <oceanbreeze> usr13: Ok, let me create users first :)
[10:40] <Aaruni> WinstonSmith: installed, but not running.
[10:40]  * WinstonSmith speeds up
[10:40] <usr13> oceanbreeze: adduser jack
[10:40] <naveen_> i am having a problem while installing program from its source code
[10:40] <naveen_> can any one tell me about that
[10:40] <usr13> oceanbreeze: sudo adduser jill
[10:40] <theadmin> naveen_: You should avoid that if at all possible, it's usually a proper pain
[10:40] <Orpheon> I'm having trouble getting jack to run properly, clicking on the start button of qjackctl returns this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6024569/
[10:40] <WinstonSmith> Aaruni: well timed out is rather strange. can you access other services on that box?
[10:41] <oceanbreeze> usr13: Done, the new user is ocean :)
[10:41] <Aaruni> WinstonSmith: like ftp ?
[10:41] <usr13> oceanbreeze: And do not give the user any additional rights, doesn't need anything but rights to the /home/user files.
[10:41] <WinstonSmith> Aaruni: yes ftp www etc
[10:41] <Aaruni> ftp doesn't work either, from macintosh
[10:41] <usr13> oceanbreeze: Now create a directory for files, like mkdir /home/ocean/public_html
[10:42] <Aaruni> WinstonSmith: ftp says "can't connect"
[10:42] <oceanbreeze> usr13: Should i log as user now, or create em as root?
[10:42] <theadmin> Aaruni: Are you sure the IP is correct? What username are you using?
[10:42] <usr13> oceanbreeze: sudo mkdir /home/ocean/public_html  ; sudo chown ocean /home/ocean/public_html  #Or just mkdir as ocean
[10:43] <jahm> This: http://pastebin.com/qFTzpmAs
[10:43] <usr13> oceanbreeze: YEa, login as user and do it.
[10:43] <usr13> oceanbreeze: su - ocean
[10:43] <Aaruni> theadmin: yes, ip and user are correct.
[10:43] <oceanbreeze> usr13: You are so helpful :)
[10:43] <theadmin> usr13: sudo -iu
[10:43] <oceanbreeze> usr13: Give me few minutes please :)
[10:43] <theadmin> usr13: su isn't a good idea most of the time lol
[10:43] <usr13> oceanbreeze: then just mkdir public_html
[10:44] <usr13> theadmin: sudo -iu ?  Isnt'   sudo - ocean the same thing?
[10:44] <WinstonSmith> Aaruni: are you sure that fw is off? can you ping the box from the mac?
[10:44] <Aaruni> WinstonSmith: yes I can ping it. 1ms
[10:44] <theadmin> usr13: Not entirely sure, but "su" is using the target password to authenicate, which isn't very secure, is it now?
[10:44] <usr13> theadmin: What is the difference?  I have always just used  su - username
[10:44] <wolffff> hallo....i have moved my /home directory to another hard drive using live cd. everything went well but when i restart the computer and i get to the display manager and type my password it would not do anything , any ideas?
[10:45] <oceanbreeze> usr13: Done
[10:45] <Orpheon> I'm having trouble getting jack to run properly, clicking on the start button of qjackctl returns this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6024569/
[10:45] <oceanbreeze> usr13: Now i should move my WP directory to this new folder?
[10:46] <usr13> oceanbreeze: Ok, now just create the symlink to a directory name of your choosing in the /var/www area
[10:46] <oceanbreeze> usr13: Aye, symlinks, forgot about em :)
[10:47] <usr13> oceanbreeze: sudo ln -s /home/ocean/www  /var/www/wordpress1     #Or what ever you want it to be.
[10:47] <WinstonSmith> Aaruni: can you pastebin "netstat -lanpt" please
[10:48] <martin_> wolffff: you need crtl+alt+f1 login in console as root, use usermod -d /new/homedir yousername  also fix /etc/fstab?
[10:48] <oceanbreeze> usr13: ln -s /home/ocean/public_html /var/www/html/wordpress ?
[10:48] <usr13> oceanbreeze: Then when the user ocean logs in, he just puts his files in the www/ dir.  (Name is not important, you can call it public_html if you want.
[10:48] <usr13> oceanbreeze: Yes
[10:49] <Aaruni> WinstonSmith: from ubuntu box ?
[10:49] <WinstonSmith> Aaruni: yes
[10:49] <usr13> oceanbreeze: If /var/www/html  is where you have apache serving from.
[10:49] <oceanbreeze> usr13: /var/www/html/wordpress ?
[10:49] <oceanbreeze> usr13: I need a wordpress folder? Right?
[10:49] <oceanbreeze> usr13: Then should i create a wordpress folder for user too?
[10:50] <oceanbreeze> usr13: Like /home/ocean/public_html/wordpress ?
[10:50] <martin_> oceanbreeze: if you use FollowSymlink option enabled
[10:50] <usr13> oceanbreeze: Look in /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/000-default
[10:50] <Aaruni> WinstonSmith: http://txt.krow.me/1273/
[10:50] <oceanbreeze> usr13: I am using sites-available
[10:51] <apb1963_> I've been looking over apt-get options, but I don't see how to out what versions of a package are available?  For example I'm trying to build a package that specifies  mysql-client-core-5.5... but how do I know if (for example) there's a 7.7 available?
[10:51] <oceanbreeze> usr13: default
[10:51] <usr13> oceanbreeze: Ok.  The choice is yours.
[10:51] <apb1963_> s/out/find out/
[10:51] <WinstonSmith> Aaruni: sorry that has to be run with sudo
[10:51] <Aaruni> ok, doing again
[10:51] <usr13> oceanbreeze: Look for the DocumentRoot line, set is as you see fit.
[10:52] <Aaruni> WinstonSmith: http://txt.krow.me/1274/
[10:52] <usr13> oceanbreeze: The default is more-than-likely just   /var/www/
[10:52] <oceanbreeze> usr13: Done it already :) My site is up and running fine, just need to setup ftp file transfer to that folder i chose in DocumentRoot
[10:52] <oceanbreeze> usr13: For Wordpress themes
[10:52] <jahm> theadmin: thanks ma'am
[10:53] <jahm> I fixed it
[10:53] <jahm> Idk how
[10:53] <jahm> :)
[10:53] <theadmin> jahm: hehe :D
[10:53] <oceanbreeze> usr13: ln -s /home/ocean/public_html/wordpress  /var/www/html/wordpress . Should look like this then :)
[10:53] <usr13> oceanbreeze: Ok, there you go.
[10:54] <WinstonSmith> Aaruni: hmm. and you try to ssh directly from the mac? or are you ssh'ing to the mac and then back?
[10:54] <usr13> oceanbreeze: Yep. that should do it.
[10:54] <Orpheon> I'm having trouble getting jack to run properly, clicking on the start button of qjackctl returns this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6024569/
[10:54] <Orpheon> Any help?
[10:55] <usr13> oceanbreeze: You should also see "Options FollowSymLinks" in the DocumentRoot section of apache2's config file, so you're good to go.
[10:56] <oceanbreeze> usr13: Ok added symlink, rebooting now, just incase :)
[10:56] <usr13> oceanbreeze: No need to reboot.
[10:56] <usr13> oceanbreeze: No need to do anything.
[10:56] <stroodlepup> hi is there a fix for google chrome bad display of flash?
[10:57] <usr13> stroodlepup: I just don't use google chrome
[10:57] <oceanbreeze> usr13: Ok nice i logged in ftp as ocean
[10:57] <usr13> oceanbreeze: Yea, and then cd wordpress and upload
[10:57] <theadmin> stroodlepup: Disable Chrome's built-in Flash and use one from the repositories. Or just use Chromium.
[10:57] <oceanbreeze> usr13: But the *****.com/public_html/wordpress/ directory is empty
[10:58] <pbase> one can try gnash instead of flash..
[10:59] <theadmin> pbase: Chrome comes with its' own version of Flash provided by Google. It's sometimes buggy.
[10:59]  * pbase uses chromium
[10:59] <bekks> theadmin: Chrome does not have its own flash version.
[10:59] <theadmin> bekks: Sure it does, PepperFlash.
[10:59] <bekks> theadmin: It does not.
[11:00] <bekks> PepperFlash is built by Adobe - and built for the Chrom-shipped Pepper-API.
[11:00] <theadmin> bekks: Yeah, well. The thing is, it's a different version than the one in the repos. A more recent one
[11:00] <saki> i can't find what the command ls -al does, googling it or looking up the man page doesnt say.
[11:00] <WinstonSmith> saki: ls --help
[11:01] <WinstonSmith> would be a good starting point
[11:01] <pbase> it simply lists the cotnents of the current dierctory including hidden files with their compete attributes
[11:01] <pbase> list form
[11:02] <saki> ohhhhhh its a combination of -a and -l?
[11:02]  * WinstonSmith thinks "give a man a fish..."
[11:02] <theadmin> saki: Yes, according to the GNU specification short options start with -, consist of 1 letter/number and can be combined by supplying all of the options' letters/numbers together: ls -lAR, for example.
[11:02] <pbase> saki:  yes
[11:02] <saki> i know what ls does, what ls -a does, what ls -l does. i didn't know what ls -al was
[11:03] <saki> thanks
[11:04] <WinstonSmith> Aaruni: sorry i have to go, good luck
[11:04]  * WinstonSmith &
[11:04] <usr13> Time for me to go too.
[11:07] <saki> just to double check
[11:07] <saki> sudo adduser --home /home/music/uploads --shell /usr/lib/sftp-server uploads
[11:07] <nbubuntu> Hi , I need help , I can't copy a Link to my thumbdrive .It said Error while copying Link to my thumbdrive.Filesystem does not support symbolic links . How to solve it ? it's easier if there's a way to do a shortcut
[11:07] <saki> this command is going to create a directory called uploads and make it available under the user 'uploads'. and said user via ftp, won't be able to access anything besides that folder because that's the only permissions he'll have, yes?
[11:08] <saki> nbubuntu, why do you want to copy a shortcut to your thumbdrive?
[11:08] <theadmin> saki: Uh. Specifying that as a shell is a bad idea. Use /bin/false if you want to disallow shell logins.
[11:09] <wino> hello
[11:10] <stroodlepup> thanks guys :)
[11:10] <nbubuntu> saki : I though it's easier for me to access files.I though everyone did that ?
[11:11] <saki> no as in, do you want a shortcut, or the actual file? the shortcut's not the file if thats what you're after
[11:11] <saki> theadmin: whoops
[11:11] <saki> i already did it
[11:12] <bekks> saki: Then revert it.
[11:13] <saki> no i did it a little while back
[11:13] <bekks> saki: Then revert it.
[11:14] <foofoobar> Hi. I just formated an external usb drive with gparted
[11:15] <wolffff> still am stuck at login screen after i move my /home to a new drive ...the fstab is fixed , still cant login after reboot
[11:15] <foofoobar> It's show under unity as "ext3/ext4" but "mount" tells me its ext2
[11:15] <foofoobar> however, when I go in the file explorer to it I cant create folder because it's "root" owned
[11:15] <foofoobar> which rights do I have to give the folder? Especially when I want to use this drive at more than one computer
[11:16] <saki> okay
[11:16] <saki> so i have no idea how to revert it. can't i just manually remove the user?
[11:16] <pbase> foofoobar: create a folder as root
[11:17] <pbase> change its owner then
[11:17] <nbubuntu> saki : just a shortcut , I can do it in window easily , but why not on ubuntu ? weird , I though it's my USB crash
[11:18] <foofoobar> pbase, so to which should I change the permissions?
[11:18] <foofoobar> pbase, lets say I have to computer, one has the user "foo" and the second "bar".
[11:18] <foofoobar> I want to read/write from both users
[11:18] <pbase> you will have root on all computers
[11:18] <foofoobar> but then I have to do some owner changes every time I plug it into a different computer?
[11:18] <wolffff> i boot into a live cd , copied all the files from /home to my new /home with rsync, then deleted the old home and edited my fstab ...when i reboot and i get to the login manager and type my password nothing happens.....
[11:19] <pbase> probably
[11:20] <apb1963_> I've been looking over apt-get options, but I don't see how to find out what versions of a package are available?  For example I'm trying to build a package that specifies  mysql-client-core-5.5... but how do I know if (for example) there's a 7.7 available?
[11:20] <muellisoft> apb1963_: apt-cache policy
[11:20] <MonkeyDust> apb1963_  apt-cache show    to see details
[11:23] <apb1963_> hard to say if that works or not... it does tell me there's a 5.5.x ... but since I don't know if there's a 6.x or not, I can only hope it works??
[11:24] <nbubuntu> Hi , I need help , I can't copy a Link to my thumbdrive .It said Error while copying Link to my thumbdrive.Filesystem does not support symbolic links . How to solve it ? it's easier if there's a way to do a shortcut
[11:25] <bekks> nbubuntu: Solution: Do not copy symbolic links to your thumb drive.
[11:25] <apb1963_> nbubuntu: What is the format of your thumbdrive?
[11:25] <nbubuntu> bekks : how to create a shortcut link ?
[11:25] <nbubuntu> bekks : normal fat system
[11:25] <apb1963_> fat doesn't support symlinks
[11:25] <bekks> nbubuntu: FAT does not support symbolic links.
[11:26] <apb1963_> reformat it :)
[11:26] <nbubuntu> bekks : then how to create a shortcut with a symbolic  link ?
[11:26] <apb1963_> derp
[11:26] <nbubuntu> bekks : then how to create a shortcut without a symbolic link ?
[11:26] <bekks> nbubuntu: You cant.
[11:26] <bekks> nbubuntu: Use a filesystem capable of doing so.
[11:27] <nbubuntu> bekks : no otherway round ? I see window can do it on fat
[11:27] <bekks> nbubuntu: No other way around it.
[11:27] <bekks> nbubuntu: Windows does not create symbolic links. It creates files with a specific content that is evaluated as "link".
[11:28] <bekks> nbubuntu: FAT isnt capable of symbolic links.
[11:28] <nbubuntu> bekks : ok , then how I create a file with an evaluted as "link"
[11:28] <apb1963_> I wonder why there's no "shortcut" type file so windoze users can stop complaining :)
[11:28] <bekks> nbubuntu: Ask ##windows :)
[11:30] <apb1963_> I suspect he's not going to get a good answer there...  Even if he creates such a file, what is going to evaluate that "link" ?
[11:32] <apb1963_> there needs to be support for it... in ls for example and in the shell I'd imagine
[11:32] <alxndr> Can anyone recommend a ssh/telnet/../etc data logger tool for Windown and Linux
[11:32] <nbubuntu> bekks : weird,  but I can burn into a CD with symbolic link
[11:35] <apb1963_> CD isn't FAT
[11:37] <nbubuntu> gtg , thanks for the information
[11:37] <oceanbreeze> vsftpd failed 550 permission denied while trying to upload file to my ftp server
[11:38] <kapcom01> my laptop has internal bluetooth but has signal problems. i want to use a usb bluetooth. how can i tell ubuntu to use the usb instead of the internal?
[11:39] <saki> can i just remove a user by doing deluser?
[11:39] <bekks> oceanbreeze: Then you have to fix the permissions of the target directory.
[11:39] <seekwill> Hello! I would like an automated/scripted way to create OS users. I know I can use a Perl/PHP/Python script and shell out to do so, but I was wondering what the recommended practice to do so
[11:39] <oceanbreeze> bekks: I even set em to 777
[11:40] <bekks> seekwill: Use "adduser" and put it into a shell script.
[11:41] <oceanbreeze> bekks: Ok worked after a reboot
[11:41] <oceanbreeze> finally
[11:41] <oceanbreeze> :)
[11:41] <oceanbreeze> Thanks all
[11:42] <oceanbreeze> I owe you a lot of beer guys :)
[11:43] <apb1963_> Hmmm... personally I'd prefer a beer girl ;)
[11:47] <oceanbreeze> Or two :D
[11:52] <apb1963_> if you've seen one.... you've seen them both
[11:54] <NewWorld> haha
[11:56] <Orpheon> I'm having trouble getting jack to run properly, clicking on the start button of qjackctl returns this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6024569/
[11:56] <Orpheon> Any help?
[12:06] <PapaSierra> we're running a dodgy site that keeps crashing php-fpm. we're working replacing the site, but for now what tool can we use to restart phpfpm every time it crashes? is it upstart?
[12:06] <Fudge> any known software to overclock z87 from inside Ubuntu
[12:06] <Fudge> PapaSierra  a crontab to check running pids maybe?
[12:12] <saki> theadmin, the guide i'm following specifies this command, specifically so only SFTP commands work and nothing else
[12:12] <saki> sudo adduser --home /srv/airtime/uploads --shell /usr/lib/sftp-server uploads
[12:12] <saki> what should i be using instead, if the shell as that is a bad idea like you said?
[12:13] <Orpheon> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6024841/  Jack is installed, and ulimit -l returns 64. Where should I go searching for the problem? OS: Ubuntu 12.04 64-bit
[12:14] <cfhowlett> Orpheon, more likely to find out in #opensourcemusicians or #ubuntustudio
[12:14] <Orpheon> ok
[12:16] <bekks> saki: You have been told to use /bin/false as shell when the user is not going to be allowed to log in.
[12:17] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[12:18] <Anho> hello every1
[12:18] <saki> i just wanted to know if sftp would still work that way?
[12:19] <visualise> hah, /bin/false is a real thing? o:
[12:19] <visualise> damn, even options are a file in *nix
[12:19] <gordonjcp> visualise: hm?
[12:20] <bekks> visualise: Which options?
[12:21] <chaprasiman> how to broadvast wifi on ubuntu?
[12:21] <cfhowlett> chaprasiman, with a router ...
[12:21] <visualise> no adhoc?
[12:22] <Anho> any1 here have experience in VirtualBox?
[12:22] <chaprasiman> cfhowlett: i wanted to broadcast wifi from my computer so that i can use another laptop to connect locally
[12:22] <cfhowlett> Anho, yes probably most of us.
[12:24] <chaprasiman> i wanted to broadcast wifi from my computer so that i can use another laptop to connect locally, would like if i can get a response, i am travelling so my net keeps dc, that's the only hurry
[12:25] <gordonjcp> chaprasiman: tried ad-hoc mode?
[12:25] <chaprasiman> gordonjcp: i dnt know how to reach there
[12:25] <chaprasiman> oh guys got it thanks :D use as a hotspot option is there under network :D
[12:27] <kelvinella> Hi
[12:28] <cfhowlett> kelvinella, greetings
[12:34] <PapaSierra> how would i count how many php5-fpm processes are running?
[12:37] <OerHeks> PapaSierra, find the parent, and count the child processes i guess > pstree -p <PID>
[12:37] <auronandace> PapaSierra: ps aux | grep fpm
[12:38] <PapaSierra> well, i'm trying to write a restart script in case is crashes
[12:38] <A1Recon> Say a wallpaper is at 2560 res can i download it and run on a 1080p res monitor? Will there be any problem? It works I know !! But will there be any problem??
[12:38] <silne30> Hello all. Has anyone here used clonezilla?
[12:38] <silne30> I am having a partition issue where one of my partitions does not start where it should so I was going to do a backup using clonezilla and reinstall Linux.
[12:39] <OerHeks> A1Recon, i do not see any problem too
[12:41] <BluesKaj> A1Recon, no problem
[12:44] <wolffff> i have a dual display setup, when i press print screen it captures both screens , how do i change this ?
[12:44] <cfhowlett> A1Recon, no problem.
[12:53] <rudolf_> hi
[12:53] <rudolf_> I am having a problem in installing and even trying ubuntu.
[12:53] <shubb> What's the problem rudolf
[12:54] <rudolf_> When I boot through my usb, the install menu comes for 1-2 seconds and then some black screen with many commands comes up.
[12:55] <shubb> 'a black menu with many commands', do you mean a menu that asks you if you want to install ubuntu etc? you probably want the first option from that...
[12:55] <shubb> or do you mean a whole bunch of scrolling white text on a black screen?
[12:56] <rudolf_> http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/689/lkrs.jpg/
[12:56] <rudolf_> this is it.
[12:56] <rudolf_> It comes before I am able to select any of the options from the installation menu.
[12:56] <shubb> oh dear...
[12:57] <rudolf_> What is it?
[12:57] <shubb> well, it means it's trying to boot from the usb drive, and it has booted from the usb drive, but then it got stuck
[12:58] <rudolf_> So what do I do now?
[12:58] <shubb> one mo,
[12:59] <rudolf_> ok
[13:02] <rudolf_> got anything?
[13:02] <Vlad916> Salut
[13:02] <Vlad916> Este cineva?
[13:03] <rudolf_> what? russian?
[13:04] <bekks> !ro | Vlad916
[13:05] <rudolf_> shubb, did you see anything?
[13:06] <angela> hi I'm having trouble install mysql server for this message The following packages have unmet dependencies:  libapache2-mod-auth-mysql : Depends: apache2.2-common (>= 2.2.3-3) but it is not going to be installed
[13:06] <angela> however, when I try to install apache2.2-common it has a similar message for apache2.2-bin, which I have already installed
[13:06] <angela> but still can't continue installation because
[13:06] <angela> The following packages have unmet dependencies:  apache2.2-common : Depends: apache2.2-bin (= 2.2.22-6ubuntu5.1) but it is not going to be installed
[13:07] <bekks> angela: Which ubuntu do you use?
[13:07] <angela> apache2.2-bin is already in the list when I try dpkg --list | grep apache
[13:07] <angela> bekks: 13.04
[13:07] <bekks> angela: Then why do you use those old packages?
[13:07] <angela> Welcome to Ubuntu 13.04 (GNU/Linux 3.8.0-19-generic x86_64)
[13:07] <sanka> somewhere halfway my session the global keyboard shortcuts stopped working (they are registered but don do their function). I looked at most of the /var/log/ failes but there is nothing there which indicates the issue. Someone got a pointer where to look?
[13:08] <rudolf_> and yeah it is ubuntu 12.
[13:08] <angela> bekks: because mysql-server won't continue
[13:08] <angela> installing mysql-server
[13:08] <rudolf_> Anyone ?
[13:08] <bekks> angela: Whats the entire command you are issuing and whats the entire output?
[13:09] <rudolf_> :(
[13:09] <angela> bekks: see http://paste.ubuntu.com/6024987/
[13:10] <bekks> angela: run: sudo apt-get update
[13:10] <angela> bekks: no change
[13:11] <cebor> how can i update ubuntu 12.04.2 -> 12.04.3  ?
[13:11] <bekks> angela: Please pastebin: apt-cache policy apache2.2-common
[13:11] <bekks> cebor: By running regular updates using apt-get update and apt-get upgrade.
[13:12] <angela> bekks: see http://paste.ubuntu.com/6024991/
[13:12] <rudolf_> no one to answer my ques?
[13:12] <cfhowlett> cebor, and you might want to run sudo apt-get dist-upgrade to capture new packages as well
[13:13] <cebor> cfhowlett:  thx that helped
[13:20] <raven_> possible to "upgrade" 32bit to 64 / install it with saving all settings?
[13:20] <bekks> You need to reinstall.
[13:20] <raven_> bekks, yes but will all settings be saved?
[13:21] <cfhowlett> raven_, possibly if you've got your /home in it's own partition.
[13:21] <bekks> raven_: Only if you backup everything that you want to restore afterwards.
[13:21] <cfhowlett> raven_, best to just bite the bullet and redo the settings
[13:21] <raven_> ok so it will be a "normal" reinstall
[13:21] <raven_> tnx
[13:21] <angela> bekks: did you see my last msg?
[13:22] <obi1kenobe> hello
[13:22] <mikubuntu> got a laptop that won't boot past this point -- trying to install via cd :: http://imagebin.org/268731
[13:22] <obi1kenobe> i can`t do any updates in Ubuntu
[13:22] <L3top> I am trying to detect physical connections (audio). I know that some nvidia drivers will create an eld#* file at /proc/asound/card*/ which I can grep an eld_valid value. I think that codec#*  Pin-ctls can determine an HDMI connection as well... though I am experimenting. Any direction would be helpful. Thanks.
[13:22] <cfhowlett> obi1kenobe, not enough detail
[13:23] <obi1kenobe> Ign http://archive.canonical.com natty Release
[13:23] <L3top> (above examples are HDMI specific obviously)
[13:23] <obi1kenobe> Err http://dl.google.com stable Release.gpg                                       Something wicked happened resolving 'dl.google.com:http' (-5 - No address associated with hostname)
[13:23] <L3top> (or DVI I guess...)
[13:24] <cfhowlett> obi1kenobe, dude.  Natty?  End of life ... upgrade to a supported version
[13:24] <cfhowlett> !eol|obi1kenobe,
[13:25] <obi1kenobe> thats i was try to do is update
[13:25] <sanka> mikubuntu, if this happens during the installation it seems like some files cannot be read from the cd/dvd. If this happens at boot from HDD the install failed
[13:26] <cfhowlett> obi1kenobe, download the 12.04 ISO.  make a boot USB.  install.  You can't update from a non-supported version.
[13:27] <mikubuntu> sanka -- i used the same disk for a relatively successful install on another machine (i say relatively because i had to run a boot repair) ... oops, did i just answer my own question?
[13:27] <sable> Hi everyone. I'd like to try to find a product that isn't as simple and error prone as shell scripts and ssh, yet not a systems management thing like Puppet or cfengine. This product should be able to recognize when I restart service A that I also need to restart its dependent service B. These services could reside on different hosts.
[13:27] <obi1kenobe> ok thanks will do
[13:27] <sable> What's more, I need a product that will work on Solaris as well as Linux
[13:27] <mikubuntu> so, maybe i should try 12.10 disk i have instead of 13.04 that needed boot repair?
[13:28] <sable> I could do this with Veritas Cluster Server, but that's really expensive. I already have VCS for the Solaris hosts, but when I try to migrate services to Linux I need to retain the capability at least
[13:29] <sanka> mikubuntu, or try to reburn the iso (or try install from usb)
[13:29] <sanka> mikubuntu, or try to reburn the iso (or try install from usb)
[13:29] <mikubuntu> sanka, ok thx, will do
[13:30] <X-User> My Ubuntu Restricted Extras installation stuck in middle in "Progress" it is showing "Installed" in Software Centre home page, and showing "Removing" while clicked on that app page, not letting me install other apps even, what to do how?
[13:30] <mikubuntu> sanka, i'll let you know :P
[13:30] <sanka> mikubuntu, sure, not sure how long I'll be idling here
[13:31] <X-User> anybody can help?
[13:31] <cfhowlett> X-User, use the terminal.  sudo apt-get ubuntu-restricted-extras.   Note the messages
[13:31] <X-User> cfhowlett, ok
[13:32] <cfhowlett> X-User, be aware that if software center HAS glitched, that command will not run ... which is what you need to know
[13:33] <NewWorld> sable:  maybe look for something with systemd, it's the new way of managing services
[13:34] <NewWorld> sh*t's going down
[13:35] <sable> NewWorld, systemd and SMF in Solaris fit the bill for managing services. But what I need is some sort of glue between systems such that if I restart service A, then service B is restarted also. To my knowledge, neither technology is "networked"
[13:35] <mikubuntu> sanka -- same thing with 12.10 disk -- what does ''try passing init = bootarg" refer to?
[13:37] <yeni> hi, i just installed ubuntu 12.04 and at the end of installation after restart there were no any pages to choose what OS we prefer, always start with win7 , what do i do ?
[13:38] <cfhowlett> !grub|yeni
[13:38] <cfhowlett> yeni, sounds like grub needs some help.  reinstall/restore per the instructions
[13:40] <ActionParsnip> usually a bit busier on a Sunday :-)
[13:40] <L3top> I am trying to detect physical connections (audio). I know that depending on the hw, nvidia drivers will create an eld#* file at /proc/asound/card*/ which I can grep an eld_valid value. I think that codec#* Pin-ctls can determine an HDMI connection as well... though I am experimenting. Any direction would be helpful. Thanks.
[13:40] <mikubuntu> sanka -- same problem with another disk, and same problem with usb stick
[13:41] <ActionParsnip> mikubuntu: whats the issue?
[13:41] <sanka> mikubuntu, so perhaps it's the hardware having issues booting ubuntu. What's your hardware
[13:41] <Darryl> Hi everyone
[13:42] <arka> what this command does? "sudo apt-get install -f"
[13:42] <alxndr> L3top, i know nvidia-settings is is not being upgraded on 12.04.2 LTS, I was working on !sound this morning
[13:42] <yeni> I have no idea of what grub is , but my friend told me Grub is hard for beginners and he told me to install with "install ubuntu 13.04 alongside windows" option
[13:42] <Darryl> arka, It removes a damaged package and it repairs it
[13:42] <mikubuntu> sanka -- its an acer laptop, that previously was running ubuntu -- belongs to my friends son, so i don't know what he did to the machine. he says just one day it stopped booting
[13:43] <arka> Darryl, ok thanx!
[13:43] <yeni> what's the differences between these two option ?
[13:43] <mikubuntu> ActionParsnip: http://imagebin.org/268731
[13:43] <Darryl> arka, Enjoy using Ubuntu.
[13:43] <alxndr> also checking the hw, show a schematic for a sound chip on the NVIDIA GPU
[13:44] <alxndr> which is weird
[13:44] <ActionParsnip> mikubuntu: tried the omgubuntu guide: sticking it to grub
[13:44] <L3top> Correct alxndr. It hasn't changed much at all for a long time. I need to detect across manufacturers/drivers. This should be simple enough to do in linux... I just  cant find the magic.
[13:44] <cfhowlett> yeni, you did NOT use the windows installer?
[13:44] <sanka> mikubuntu, just to be sure. You're sure it boots from cd/usb and not hdd
[13:45] <yeni> what do mean  ?
[13:45] <ActionParsnip> arka: man apt-get ,would tell you
[13:45] <cfhowlett> yeni, if you don't know, then you probably didn't.  you need to reinstall grub.  your ubuntu is likely safe, but grub can't find it so ... no bot.
[13:45] <cfhowlett> boot
[13:46] <mikubuntu> sanka -- i set the boot sequence to cd, if thats what you mean. just now lastly changed it to usb fdd to try the stick
[13:46] <Darryl> araka, "man" command will help you allot it  stands for manual use it to learn how a certain command works
[13:46] <yeni> ok i'll try to fix ty
[13:47] <mikubuntu> ActionParsnip: not sure what you're saying "tried the omgubuntu guide: sticking it to grub"
[13:47] <alxndr> LTS offers support for nvidia... NOT? hm, haven't run update-grub in a long time ;)
[13:47] <sanka> mikubuntu, or remove HDD from the sequence at all just to be sure
[13:48] <sanka> mikubuntu, it seems unlikely to me that all the installation disks have errors
[13:48] <ActionParsnip> mikubuntu: search and you'll find the guide. You can reinstall and reconfigure grub2 using a chroot from livecd
[13:48] <sanka> the error you see seem to indicate the filesystem is corrupt
[13:48] <mikubuntu> sanka, let me see if this bios allows me to remove hdd from the list
[13:49] <methuzla> radio check
[13:49] <sanka> methuzla, one two
[13:49] <ActionParsnip> mikubuntu: you could also fsck the unmounted partitions from the livecd too, make sure they are healthy
[13:49] <ActionParsnip> alxndr: on Precise here wiyh nvidia 6150 works like a dream
[13:50] <sanka> ActionParsnip, if you want to try to fix the issue instead of doing a reinstall that indeed that is a good option
[13:50] <ActionParsnip> alxndr: needs an xorg.conf file but my TV is weird
[13:50] <sanka> mikubuntu, #sudo fdisk -l
[13:50] <ActionParsnip> sanka: makes sense to try.
[13:50] <vice_> Hi folks, i have a trouble with iPhone sync on Ubuntu, can someone help me?
[13:50] <ActionParsnip> vice_: try banshee
[13:50] <sanka> mikubuntu, locate the harddisk and do something like this #sudo fsck /dev/sda1
[13:51] <vice_>  im using banshee already
[13:51] <Darryl> vice_, What problem do you have with iPhone sync with Ubuntu
[13:51] <ActionParsnip> sanka: why the hash character?
[13:51] <joli609> my comp works fine but desktop has some weird dotted black lines going through it in the upper half
[13:51] <vice_> and the problemm is that i cant copy my songs to sync
[13:51] <vice_> coz simple sync gona delete all of them
[13:51] <bobapplepie> I'm new to ubuntu, and is there an equivalent of the windows task manager?
[13:51] <joli609> tried with hardware drivers but didnt solve the problem
[13:51] <mikubuntu> sanka and ActionParsnip it won't run the live-cd either -- is there a way for me to bring up a terminal?
[13:51] <sanka> ActionParsnip, oh thats to indicate its the shell command instead of me saing something ;)
[13:51] <alxndr> all SiS here, lol
[13:51] <Darryl> vice_, Are you using LTS
[13:51] <ActionParsnip> joli609: what is the output of: cat /etc/issue
[13:52] <ActionParsnip> sanka: ahh i see
[13:52] <ActionParsnip> mikubuntu: if it wont run livecd how did you install
[13:52] <joli609> Joli OS 1.2 \n \l
[13:52] <alxndr> couldn't get the help on phone facility though
[13:52] <ActionParsnip> joli609: not supported here
[13:53] <joli609> ActionParsnip: why?
[13:53] <mikubuntu> ActionParsnip: thats what i'm trying to do is install, but it stops here :: http://imagebin.org/268731
[13:53] <vice_> Darryl, i have no idea what LTS is
[13:53] <ActionParsnip> joli609: this is ubuntu suport only
[13:53] <vice_> Long Term Support
[13:53] <vice_> all i found
[13:53] <Darryl> Ubuntu 12.04 LTS I ment
[13:53] <X-User> !offtopic | joli609
[13:53] <vice_> Last version
[13:54] <badkid> yes ,you are right
[13:54] <alxndr> yea, don't know if kernel is asking for a modem, throws (Segmentation faults)
[13:54] <joli609> ActionParsnip: ubuntu and not lubuntu?
[13:54] <X-User> ubottu,  !offtopic | joli609
[13:54] <ActionParsnip> joli609: lubuntu is an official canonical release so it is supported here
[13:55] <vice_> to be fair im using xfce ubuntu, but i think banshee have no differences
[13:55] <ActionParsnip> joli609: sadly lubuntu 12.04 is not LTS :-(
[13:55] <mikubuntu> sanka -- boot order currently set at 1) usb fdd, 2) usb cdrom, 3) hdd
[13:56] <joli609> ActionParsnip: could you just tell me what should i try please?
[13:56] <mikubuntu> sanka -- it doesn't seem to have an option to completely remove any boot source from list
[13:57] <ActionParsnip> joli609: /join jolicloud
[13:57] <_JuJuBee> I am having trouble with ssh, cannot ssh to localhost ... connection refused.  I purged and reinstalled ssh, suggestions?
[13:57] <ActionParsnip> joli609 /j #jolicloud
[13:57] <sanka> mikubuntu, you see that it boots from CD (something along the line booting from cd on the console)
[13:57] <joli609> ok thankss
[13:58] <ActionParsnip> jujubee: rename ~/.ssh ,for that user. does it help?
[13:58] <mikubuntu> sanka -- i don't see any indication of it on the screen -- i hear momentary whir from the cd on startup, then it goes to http://imagebin.org/268731
[13:59] <_JuJuBee> ActionParsnip: no
[13:59] <ActionParsnip> jujubee: is the service running? have you changed the port ssh runs on?
[13:59] <_JuJuBee> ActionParsnip: this is a fresh install
[13:59] <_JuJuBee> Not configured ssh other than installing
[13:59] <ActionParsnip> _jujubee: if you nmap localhost ,do you see the service running?
[14:00] <_JuJuBee> ActionParsnip: no
[14:01] <ActionParsnip> _jujubee: try restarting ssh service
[14:01] <sanka> mikubuntu, its been a while since I last installed but it seems it doesn't boot from cd
[14:02] <_JuJuBee> ActionParsnip: sudo service ssh start -> ssh start/running, process 3083, but when I nmap again, not there
[14:02] <mikubuntu> sanka, but not from usb either
[14:02] <ActionParsnip> _jujubee: have you configured ufw or iptables?
[14:02] <_JuJuBee> no
[14:03] <ActionParsnip> _jujubee: could reboot....
[14:03] <mikubuntu> sanka -- as i think you said -- its unlikely that the cd's AND the usb are faulty
[14:03] <_JuJuBee> ActionParsnip: tried that
[14:03] <ActionParsnip> have you tested your RAM using memtest?
[14:03] <cfhowlett> sanka, you DID md5sum check the iso, right?
[14:03] <SwashBuckla> Hi there. I am currently running a livecd of Ubuntu 13.04 on a laptop with Windows 8 installed. Is it possible to install Ubuntu alongside Windows 8 so that it doesn't touch my Windows 8 partition? Note: I only have one hard drive.
[14:04] <ActionParsnip> _jujubee: can you telnet to the socket?
[14:04] <_JuJuBee> no
[14:04] <sanka> cfhowlett, I'm not the one with the issue :)
[14:04] <cfhowlett> !uefi|SwashBuckla, yes it is
[14:04] <ActionParsnip> swashbuckla: resize ntfs in windows then install
[14:04] <cfhowlett> mikubuntu, did you md5sum the iso?
[14:04] <sanka> but good point mikubuntu  :)
[14:04] <SwashBuckla> ActionParsnip: how do I do this? It seems like the installer doesn't explicitly provide this feature
[14:05] <ActionParsnip> swashbuckla: you can have multiple partitions one one disk so the fact you only have one is pretty irrelevant
[14:05] <cfhowlett> ActionParsnip, he's got the uefi thing as well
[14:05] <ActionParsnip> swashbuckla: it does but there is a tool in Windows to resize
[14:05] <mikubuntu> cfhowlett: no, don't know how -- but if i have used it (and the usb) previously doesn't that mean the .iso should be good?
[14:06] <SwashBuckla> ActionParsnip: these are the partitions I can see: http://i.imgur.com/tj3sWuy.png
[14:06] <SwashBuckla> cfhowlett: I have currently disabled UEFI in order to boot the liveUSB environment of Ubuntu 13.04
[14:06] <SchrodingersScat> SwashBuckla: that was neccessary for you?
[14:06] <SwashBuckla> SchrodingersScat: I'm not sure it was
[14:07] <sanka> mikubuntu, is there something like this on the boot screen: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootFromCD#PC_requires_you_to_hold_down_or_press_a_key_to_boot_from_CD
[14:07] <cfhowlett> !md5sum|mikubuntu, I've only been half following your thread.  first, usb's do fail.  second, if you downloaded rather than torrented the ISO, it's more likely to get scrambled.  MD5sum is an integrity test of the downloaded iso
[14:07] <yeni> what is the size of boot repair ? is there another way not to use this and fix Grub?
[14:07] <alxndr> ouch
[14:08] <BrixSAt> Hello, i have installed a 13.04 64bit on a new computer (6 months) and the system says  missing operating system, reboot and select proper boot device, is it the efi or uefi?
[14:08] <mikubuntu> ubottu ok lemme try to md5sum
[14:08] <ActionParsnip> swashbuckla: you can resize partitions from sda6 and higher as they are logical partitions. sda5 is the extended partition they sit in
[14:08] <SwashBuckla> so in summary here is what I did (each step may or may not have been necessary to boot the LiveUSB): 1) Disable SecureBoot 2) Disable FastBoot (in Windows 8) 3) Disabled UEFI 4) Boot from LiveUSB Ubuntu 13.04
[14:08] <mikubuntu> but, but, bot --- you said ....
[14:09] <cfhowlett> mikubuntu, meet ubottu.  ubottu; mikubuntu.  shake hands and be friends.
[14:09] <ActionParsnip> mikubuntu: users trigger her, she is only a bot
[14:09] <SwashBuckla> ActionParsnip: ok, and what tool (and in what Operating System) should I resize the partition?
[14:09] <ActionParsnip> swashbuckla: disk manager in windows......
[14:09] <X-User> can I uninstall a app that was installed via command line (i.e, apt-get) via Ubuntu Software Centre?
[14:10] <SwashBuckla> ActionParsnip: OK, and how can I be sure which partition(s) are able to be resized safely?
[14:10] <ActionParsnip> swashbuckla: lots of guides on youtube etc
[14:10] <BluesKaj> X-User, yes
[14:10] <X-User> BluesKaj, ok
[14:10] <SchrodingersScat> SwashBuckla: you'll probably not want to touch the various smaller partitions that windows makes, like the recovery partitions, but that sda5 looks like it might have some space, right?
[14:10] <ActionParsnip> swashbuckla: the ones that are logical can be resized to make free space. you'll need about 10Gb to be comfortable
[14:11] <BluesKaj> X-User, apt and the software center both use dpkg to install and remove apps anyway
[14:11] <SwashBuckla> SchrodingersScat: I don't know.
[14:11] <ActionParsnip> swashbuckla: make sure your backups are up to date and you have nothing to worry about
[14:11] <SwashBuckla> ActionParsnip: I have done that already. I just like to save hassle :P
[14:12] <ActionParsnip> swashbuckla: absolutely.
[14:12] <X-User> BluesKaj, what about tasksel, aptitude and apt-fast?
[14:13] <yeni> does ubuntu 12.04 has Boot-Repair preinstalled ?
[14:14] <BluesKaj> X-User, apt links to dpkg , dunno about tasksel , never used it
[14:14] <X-User> BluesKaj, ok
[14:14] <X-User> BluesKaj, have to look for it
[14:14] <BrixSAt> Hello, i have installed a 13.04 64bit on a new computer (6 months) and the system says  missing operating system, reboot and select proper boot device, is it the efi or uefi?
[14:14] <SwashBuckla> ActionParsnip: ok, I'm going to boot back into Windows to resize a Windows partition with Disk Manager
[14:15] <SwashBuckla> brb
[14:15] <BluesKaj> aptitude links to dpkg as well, all the package managers in the various ubuntu flavours do
[14:15] <Ampelbein> X-User: It's always dpkg that installs and removes software. tasksel, apt, aptitude, synaptic etc are all just different front-ends as far as I know.
[14:15] <ActionParsnip> !efi
[14:15] <alxndr> heimdal ??? anyone...
[14:18] <b0unce> hi guys, on my ubuntu raring firefox crashes continuously. What could be?
[14:19] <elementary-site8> I have tried clearing CMOS, Flashing BIOS, R&R HDD, still ANY os I install begins to fail in 2-24 hours! controls go then access to objects downhill from there any ideas?
[14:20] <yeni>  is that possible to lost grub right after installing ubuntu . why is that so ?????????
[14:20] <X-User> Ampelbein, ok, thanks for reply.
[14:20] <Ampelbein> b0unce: Bad RAM, bad harddisk, temperature problems, buggy website,.... There are many different causes for crashes. Is firefox the only application? Did you try with a clean user profile? Does it always crash on the same website? Did you try without any extension?
[14:21] <Ampelbein> yeni: In rare cases, yes, it's possible that the installer chose the wrong device for the bootloader.
[14:21] <cfhowlett> b0unce, run it from the terminal and see what message it returns
[14:22] <b0unce> Ampelbein: in the same PC, with Ubuntu 12.04 all was fine. My OS is freshly-installed and without any extensions. It crashes on many websites. It stucks for a lot of time and got obliged to kill it.
[14:23] <Ampelbein> b0unce: Do you get any messages in /var/log/syslog around the time of the hangs/crashes? What does the terminal show if you start firefox from there? Please use paste.ubuntu.com to paste relevant logfiles.
[14:24] <mikubuntu> cfhowlett: ActionParsnip sanka the md5sum seems ok :: 486d94f51b42b401ab72ca8fcedb2e97  lubuntu-13.04-desktop-i386.iso
[14:24] <cfhowlett> mikubuntu, and that matches what's it's supposed to be?
[14:25] <funga> when using youtube-dl how can you continue where the download left off if the connection breaks, instead of starting again?
[14:25] <cfhowlett> funga, don't think that's capability is built in ...
[14:25] <sanka> cfhowlett, seems to be: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes
[14:25] <ActionParsnip> !hashes
[14:25] <b0unce> Ampelbein: I've started it from terminal. As soon as it crashes, i paste the logs.
[14:25] <funga> cfhowlett: ok, was one hour into a two hour programming tutorial video when it broke, ouch
[14:26] <mikubuntu> cfhowlett: yes, matches the codes on the check page
[14:26] <SchrodingersScat> cfhowlett: funga -c
[14:26] <ActionParsnip> funga: i dont think that is in the app. Are you intending to rip the audio from it after?
[14:26] <cfhowlett> sanka, so then you've got a good iso.  try a different USB just for grins and giggles.
[14:26] <funga> SchrodingersScat: excellent thanks
[14:26] <sanka> mikubuntu, ^^ <cfhowlett> sanka, so then you've got a good iso.  try a different USB just for grins and giggles.
[14:27] <SchrodingersScat> ActionParsnip: funga: from youtube-dl --help ##-c, --continue             resume partially downloaded files
[14:27] <cfhowlett> sanka, dern, I done it again, boss.  sorry.
[14:27] <ActionParsnip> schrodingersscat: sweet. learned something today
[14:27] <mikubuntu> sanka, only have one usb :(
[14:27] <sanka> mikubuntu, I'm still not convinced you boot from cd/usb\
[14:28] <ActionParsnip> funga: are you going to rip to audio out to ogg/mp3 after download?
[14:28] <sanka> can you press F12 or something to get a boot menu at startup?
[14:30] <mikubuntu> sanka -- i suppose the only way to be sure its not somehow defaulting to hdd is to physically remove hdd?
[14:30] <funga> ActionParsnip: i doubt it, it's a video tutorial for python, the code examples in the video are important
[14:30] <ActionParsnip> funga: i see. cool :-D
[14:31] <SwashBuckla> ActionParsnip: hi again. I have used Disk Manager to shrink the C: drive by 80GB. It has left me with 78.13 GB of Unallocated space: http://i.imgur.com/rzqggvT.png
[14:31] <SwashBuckla> am I safe to reboot and pick up from the LiveCD again?
[14:31] <ActionParsnip> veni: its a simple enough creature
[14:32] <SwashBuckla> ActionParsnip: do I need to do anything else within Windows?
[14:32] <perrshp> i need help
[14:32] <BrixSAt> Hello, i have installed a 13.04 64bit on a new computer (6 months) and the system says  missing operating system, reboot and select proper boot device, is it the efi or uefi?
[14:32] <perrshp> anyone know Desura?
[14:32] <ActionParsnip> swashbuckla: just leave unpartitioned space. you can then install ubuntu to it
[14:32] <ActionParsnip> !anyone | perrshp
[14:32] <SwashBuckla> ActionParsnip: cool! I'll fire up the LiveUSB with Ubuntu on it again :) Thanks a lot ActionParsnip
[14:33] <perrshp> !gq
[14:33] <perrshp> !anyone
[14:33] <perrshp> !poll
[14:33] <perrshp> !anyone
[14:34] <perrshp> okay, i'm sorry
[14:34] <MonkeyDust> perrshp  use /msg ubottu to test factoids
[14:34] <ActionParsnip> !botabuse | perrshp
[14:34] <perrshp> what?
[14:34] <perrshp> you are human?
[14:36] <opalepatrick> mysql data directory on a shared partition. It is owned by mysql and works fine. When I go into mint 15, the permissions are completely different for that directory. I would have thought they would be the same?
[14:36] <opalepatrick> Had this working before re-installing both without any issues. Strange. ANy ideas?
[14:37] <alami> hi all, i have a bug, and i don't know how to fix, i run ubuntu 13.03, and where i service restart networking X goes down and i have to restart the computer
[14:38] <opalepatrick> the shared partition is ext4 as well
[14:42] <sarthor> How to extract file.tar.lzo file?
[14:43] <Muelli> sarthor: tar xvf file.tar.lzo I would guess
[14:43] <ActionParsnip> sarthor: install unp then use:  unp filename
[14:44] <ActionParsnip> sarthor: works on any compressed file
[14:44] <saki> ah so apparently
[14:44] <saki> all i had to do
[14:44] <ActionParsnip> opalpatrick: mint isnt supported here
[14:45] <saki> was run the command sudo chmod 777 <directory i needed to be write enabled>
[14:45] <saki> thanks guys!
[14:46] <ActionParsnip> saki: 777 isnt a good fix but if you are happy then finr
[14:49] <saki> oh jeez
[14:49] <saki> what's wrong with it?
[14:50] <MonkeyDust> saki  with 777 anyone could do anything, also lock you out
[14:51] <saki> okay. :/
[14:51] <saki> all i want to do
[14:51] <saki> is make a directory that people can SFTP to, with a user that only has privileges in said directory
[14:52] <ActionParsnip> saki: sftp uses the linux permissions on the data. so set the folder as owned by username:username and chmod 700. ONLY that user (and root) will have any access at all
[14:53] <saki> ah so chmod 700 is what i use then?
[14:53] <saki> i've already set the user to that particular directory
[14:53] <ActionParsnip> saki: yes but set the owner and group to the users name you want to give access
[14:53] <mikubuntu> so sanka, ActionParsnip is there not some clue in the screen output i put on imagebin? :: http://imagebin.org/268731
[14:53] <saki> and made it the home directory
[14:54] <ActionParsnip> mikubuntu: did you try the guide i said?
[14:54] <ActionParsnip> saki: 777 will give any user at all full access to the data. zero security
[14:54] <saki> yeah i'm not arguing with you
[14:54] <mikubuntu> ActionParsnip: where is it? omgubuntu?
[14:54] <ActionParsnip> saki: just educating
[14:55] <ActionParsnip> mikubuntu: search the web you will find it.
[14:55] <saki> i'm just saying that i had set the home directory for the user as said directory that i applied that to
[14:55] <saki> i'll just run chmod 700 now
[14:55] <ActionParsnip> saki: not really necessary but makes things quicker i guess
[14:57] <alami> hi all, i have a bug, and i don't know how to fix, i run ubuntu 13.03, and where i service restart networking X goes down and i have to restart the computer
[14:58] <MonkeyDust> alami  you mean 13.04
[15:00] <saiarcot895> alami: Is there a particular reason you need to do "service restart networking"?
[15:00] <cptcel> has anyone else's software updater been broken for months? (13.10)
[15:01] <saiarcot895> cptcel: I would ask in #ubuntu+1
[15:01] <cptcel> what's that?
[15:03] <saki> wait so do i have to remove the previous flag, or does setting a new flag replace it?
[15:03] <SublimeFreak> Good Morning can anyone assist me?
[15:03] <cptcel> what's #ubuntu+1
[15:03] <SchrodingersScat> !ask | SublimeFreak
[15:04] <SchrodingersScat> cptcel: iirc that's for talk about the next release
[15:04] <wolffff> alami, yep i got the same issue
[15:04] <cptcel> how do i actually find out what version i'm on as i'm not totally sure?
[15:05] <SublimeFreak> I don't know what happened but everytime I open a terminal it says: Command 'lesspipe' is available in the following places
[15:05] <SublimeFreak>  * /bin/lesspipe
[15:05] <SublimeFreak>  * /usr/bin/lesspipe
[15:05] <SublimeFreak> The command could not be located because '/usr/bin:/bin' is not included in the PATH environment variable.
[15:05] <SublimeFreak> lesspipe: command not found
[15:05] <FloodBot1> SublimeFreak: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:05] <SublimeFreak> Command 'dircolors' is available in '/usr/bin/dircolors'
[15:05] <Shadowandlight> [question] - Trying to get vsftpd to work, I have installed it but everytime i try to start the service "sudo start vsftpd" it tells me its an unknown job
[15:05] <jrib> Shadowandlight: output of « echo $PATH »?
[15:05] <SchrodingersScat> cptcel: what does cat /etc/issue #say?
[15:05] <saiarcot895> !version | cptcel
[15:06] <cptcel> ah - 13.04
[15:06] <Shadowandlight> jrib:
[15:06] <Shadowandlight> /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games:/usr/local/games
[15:06] <saiarcot895> cptcel: in that case, you're in the right channel
[15:06] <SchrodingersScat> cptcel: oh, saiarcot895's way was better
[15:06] <cptcel> XD great
[15:06] <saiarcot895> cptcel: my software updater's been working fine; is sudo apt-get update working?
[15:07] <cptcel> yeah manual works fine
[15:07] <jrib> Shadowandlight: « ls -l /usr/bin/{lesspipe,dircolors} »
[15:07] <wolffff> alami,  apparently service network-manager restart bypasses the problem
[15:07] <cptcel> whenever i try and run the graphical it just stays in the sidebar, clicking it does nothing, window won't render
[15:07] <cptcel> but it appears every so often wiggling at me telling me i need updates
[15:07] <Shadowandlight> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 39568 Jan 17  2013 /usr/bin/dircolors
[15:07] <Shadowandlight> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root    13 Jul 31 02:15 /usr/bin/lesspipe -> /bin/lesspipe
[15:07] <alami> wolffff: i thing someone from the ubuntu team can help us to fix that for sure
[15:07] <Shadowandlight> but im having an ftp problem?
[15:08] <wolffff> lol yeah alami  , it is quite upsetting
[15:08] <jrib> Shadowandlight: pastebin your ~/.bashrc.  Have you done anything involving bash configuration or path manipulation?
[15:08] <SublimeFreak> I don't know what happened but everytime I open a terminal I get this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6025327/
[15:08] <jrib> Shadowandlight: erm, I'm miking up you and SublimeFreak sorry.
[15:08] <jrib> SublimeFreak: : output of « echo $PATH »?
[15:09] <ikonia> SublimeFreak: you've got commands that don't exist in on your system in your profile
[15:09] <jrib> Shadowandlight: as for your vsftp, issue.  What package did you install?
[15:10] <SublimeFreak> jrib: $/home/darkstar/android-sdk-linux/platform-tools
[15:10] <jrib> SublimeFreak: so have you manipulated your PATH recently?
[15:10] <Shadowandlight> yea the package is installed and i've try to setup vsftpd.conf right
[15:10] <jrib> Shadowandlight: *what* package?
[15:11] <Shadowandlight> apt-get install vsftpd
[15:11] <cptcel> I don't understand how this can be a problem that's only affecting me :/
[15:11] <SublimeFreak> jrib: Yeah I was trying to build Cyanogenmod and it got mucked up
[15:11] <jrib> Shadowandlight: what exactly did you mean when you said "I've setup vsftp.conf right"?  What did you change exactly and what is the full path to tho file you modified?
[15:11] <Malgorath> Is there some issue with 13.04 having a lot of crash reports going on? or is it something in general with some part of ubuntu/linux?
[15:11] <jrib> SublimeFreak: so how did you change your PATH?
[15:11] <jrib> Malgorath: that's too vague
[15:12] <Malgorath> jrib: not really, I'm asking if there have been a large number of crash reports. Everytime I have attempted to install 13.04 I start seeing 3 or 4 complete crashes of the desktop per day. The same system runs 12.04.2 without issue.
[15:12] <SublimeFreak> jrib: I believe I used 'export PATH=$PATH:/home/darkstar/android-sdk-linux/platform-tools'
[15:13] <jrib> Malgorath: what exactly is crashing...
[15:13] <jrib> SublimeFreak: if you didn't put that in any file, then you can just start up a new terminal
[15:13] <cptcel> can anyone tell me how to run the software updater from cmd line?
[15:13] <Malgorath> Seems to be unity as I loose all desktop function and have to use CTRL+ALT+F2 to get a terminal up and sudo reboot
[15:13] <jrib> !apt | cptcel
[15:13] <cptcel> doesn't help :()
[15:13] <jrib> cptcel: if you really just want to start the gui, then you can call update-manager
[15:13] <Malgorath> cptcel: sudo apt-get update
[15:14] <jrib> cptcel: what doesn't that help?
[15:14] <Malgorath> cptcel: sudo apt-get upgrade (after the update)
[15:14] <cptcel> ah ok update-manager thanks
[15:14] <jrib> Malgorath: check http://bugs.ubuntu.com I guess
[15:14] <cptcel> ugh. doesn't give me any errors in the console
[15:15] <Shadowandlight> jrib: full path is /etc/vsftpd.conf and here is the entire file - http://www.privatepaste.com/f8ffdb616d
[15:15] <jrib> cptcel: you should say your real issue...
[15:15] <cptcel> just refuses to draw its window
[15:15] <SublimeFreak> jrib: I also change it using "gedit ~/.bashrc' but I can't get gedit to work from the command line anymore
[15:15] <jrib> Shadowandlight: dpkg -L vsftpd | grep init
[15:15] <cptcel> jrib, i did earlier sorry - software updater runs but will never display its window
[15:15] <jrib> SublimeFreak: use /usr/bin/gedit
[15:15] <Shadowandlight> /etc/init.d
[15:15] <Shadowandlight> /etc/init
[15:15] <Shadowandlight> /etc/init/vsftpd.conf
[15:15] <Shadowandlight> /etc/init.d/vsftpd
[15:15] <FloodBot1> Shadowandlight: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:16] <jrib> cptcel: and the same thing happens when you execute it in a terminal?
[15:16] <cptcel> have had the issue for months. yep same in terminal
[15:16] <jrib> Shadowandlight: try « sudo service vsftpd status »
[15:16] <Malgorath> cptcel: open a terminal and use the commands I typed and it will update for you
[15:16] <weblife> Would anyone know why my grub2 theme.txt file won't work on Ubuntu 13.04 and up but work on 12.10 and below. Guess I should link the themes: https://github.com/webbrandon/Surface-Boot-Themes
[15:16] <cptcel> Malgorath, i know. but i want to use the graphical updater
[15:16] <jrib> cptcel: see if it happens with a fresh new user account
[15:17] <Malgorath> cptcel: perhaps getting a clean update might fix the issue and allow it to work.
[15:17] <Shadowandlight> jrib: http://www.privatepaste.com/f6c7ec44bb
[15:17] <cptcel> jrib, good call - it does work as a different user
[15:18] <RoDiMuS-X> Is there a way to get Google Chromes Appindicator back in Unity?
[15:18] <weblife> Anyone familiar with Grub2 in here??? Having issues with theme.txt on 13.04 and up but not 12.10 and below.
[15:18] <jrib> cptcel: yeah, start renaming related .directories I guess.  You can probably look at what exists on the new user for some good candidates
[15:19] <SublimeFreak> jrib: ok that opened gedit but now I don't know what to do.
[15:19] <jrib> SublimeFreak: undo your PATH change.  Or if you still need to change your path, copy and paste the line you used here
[15:20] <jrib> Shadowandlight: try « initctl reload
[15:20] <cptcel> :D Thanks jrib! totally worked - why didn't I think of that :)
[15:20] <jrib> erm
[15:20] <jrib> Shadowandlight: try « initctl reload »
[15:20] <Shadowandlight>  initctl reload vsftpd
[15:20] <Shadowandlight> initctl: Unknown job: vsftpd
[15:20] <cptcel> some files in .cache were breaking it - i would have thought .cache would occasionally get cleared.. weird
[15:20] <opalepatrick> ok, mysql shared data directory permissions change when I boot into other distro (mint 15) so mysql wont work. I reset them to mysql:mysql and it works. Botto back into ubuntu 13.04 and permissions have  changed again. Reset and everything works fine. All partitions ext4. What am I missing?
[15:21] <jrib> Shadowandlight: no.  Just « sudo initctl reload »
[15:21] <opalepatrick> Botto = Back to
[15:21] <Shadowandlight> initctl: missing job name
[15:21] <opalepatrick> Botto = Boot :-)
[15:21] <SublimeFreak> jrib: That worked! Thank you so much :)
[15:21] <bekks> opalepatrick: Different permissions between mint and ubuntu.
[15:21] <jrib> SublimeFreak: no problem
[15:22] <opalepatrick> bekks, shouldnt assigned ownership stay the same on a separate partition
[15:22] <jrib> Shadowandlight: indeed.  Upstart docs seem to be outdated or incorrect.  Try « sudo initctl reload-configuration »
[15:23] <bekks> opalepatrick: No.
[15:23] <RoDiMuS-X> How about bringing back the appindicator whitelist in 13.04 is that possible?
[15:23] <bekks> opalepatrick: Because group ID are different.
[15:23] <Shadowandlight> ok that ran successfull
[15:23] <jrib> Shadowandlight: see if « sudo service vsftpd status » works now
[15:23] <Shadowandlight> status: Unknown job: vsftpd
[15:24] <jrib> Shadowandlight: pastebin /etc/init/vsftpd.conf
[15:25] <Shadowandlight> hmm its empy
[15:25] <Shadowandlight> can i uninstall and reinstall vsftpd so it goes to the right directory?
[15:25] <jrib> Shadowandlight: this may be a problem :)
[15:25] <jrib> Shadowandlight: purge the package and reinstall it
[15:26] <ikonia> it's not installed
[15:26] <zenger> Hi guys, I've tried a dist-upgrade on my ubuntu notebook, and now it won't boot stuck at "Setting up X socket directories", what's even worse I can't get into any of the terminals to boot and try to fix something
[15:26] <zenger> can someone suggest me how to fix this ?
[15:26] <jrib> zenger: what does "tried a dist-upgrade" mean?
[15:27] <zenger> jrib: It means I haven't updated in quite a while
[15:27] <jrib> zenger: what did you do exactly?
[15:27] <zenger> sudo apt-get update then sudo apt-get upgrade, then sudo apt-get dist-upgrade, then reboot and boom
[15:27] <jrib> zenger: what ubuntu version?
[15:27] <zenger> I'm not sure
[15:27] <zenger> I think it was 12.10
[15:28] <cptcel> thanks again jrib - was great thinking. see you cats around
[15:28] <jrib> cptcel: no problem
[15:28] <zenger> I tried googling around
[15:28] <zenger> some suggest it could have been the xorg driver
[15:28] <jrib> zenger: can you boot into recovery mode?
[15:28] <zenger> nope it freezes at the same point
[15:28] <zenger> I'm gonna try once again
[15:29] <jrib> zenger: that suggests it's not X related
[15:29] <jrib> zenger: you're trying to start a root prompt through recovery right?
[15:29] <zenger> yes, in grub under Ubuntu, there is Advanced Options, next Ubuntu (recovery mode) right ?
[15:29] <zenger> well it's stuck at the same point
[15:30] <zenger> just "Setting up X socket directories..."
[15:30] <florentin> bonjour
[15:30] <zenger> CTRL + ALT + F1 has a few errors
[15:31] <ikonia> zenger: that can't be possible as recovery mode doesn't start X
[15:31] <zenger> Running scripts/init-bottom/udev: line 26 nuke not found
[15:31] <ikonia> zenger: so either a.) you are not going into recovery mode b.) you are not reading the error correctly
[15:31] <zenger> probably
[15:31] <zenger> I'm on the first terminal window
[15:31] <zenger> and there are other errors
[15:31] <zenger> first I mentioned earlier with the nuke not found
[15:31] <zenger> then
[15:32] <zenger> input: failed to attach handler evbug to device input7, error: -1
[15:32] <zenger> then
[15:32] <zenger> Error; driver pcspkr is already registered
[15:32] <ikonia> zenger: it's impossible to help while you a.) cannot post a clear description of the problem b.) cannot follow instructions
[15:33] <zenger> ikonia: I can not boot into recovery mode
[15:33] <zenger> ikonia: The recovery mode freezes at the errors I mentioned earlier
[15:33] <ikonia> zenger: again, that cannot be correct as you are quoting Xorg errors, a recovery shell will not try to start X
[15:33] <zenger> ikonia: I'm not quoting, I'm assuming
[15:34] <Shadowandlight> jrib: ok thanks... its working now... how can i verify that my new ftp user has limited rights on the server??
[15:34] <ikonia> zenger: so basically you are just making up errors now ?
[15:34] <zenger> ikonia: I stated all the errors from the output I got
[15:34] <zenger> I assumed it was an x related issue
[15:34] <ikonia> zenger: when you try to boot into single user mode - do you get errors about X ?
[15:35] <ikonia> zenger: as in the erros you posted about not being able to open X11 sockets
[15:35] <zenger> I assume not
[15:35] <ikonia> zenger: does that actually happen when you try to boot into a recovery shell ?
[15:35] <ikonia> zenger: no no no
[15:35] <ikonia> zenger: not "assume"
[15:35] <zenger> I don't know how an X error looks like
[15:35] <ikonia> zenger: you said - you got xorg errors when you botted into a recovery shell
[15:35] <zenger> no no no
[15:36] <zenger> I assume those were xorg errors
[15:36] <ikonia> zenger: do you get this line when you boot into a recovery shell
[15:36] <ikonia> zenger: "Setting up X socket directories..."
[15:36] <zenger> although I don't know what an xorg error looks like
[15:36] <zenger> yes
[15:36] <zenger> is that a Xorg related issue?
[15:36] <ikonia> zenger: then I don't believe you are booting into a recovery shell - as the recovery shell does not start X
[15:36] <zenger> ikonia: hm
[15:37] <zenger> ikonia: I'm 100% i'm trying to boot into recovery, the problem is why does recovery attempt loading xorg
[15:37] <zenger> I'm booting the pc, grub shows up
[15:37] <zenger> I select Advance Options next Ubuntu (recovery mode)
[15:38] <zenger> and I get the same error
[15:38] <wardsegers> I just entered. What's the problem?
[15:38] <zenger> am I not doing things correctly ?
[15:38] <ikonia> zenger: I would suggest trying to boot into "single user mode"
[15:38] <Shadowandlight> how do i restrict an FTP user to only 1 directory?  sudo usermod -d /path/to/new/home -m didnt seem to do the trick
[15:39] <ikonia> Shadowandlight: you would need to chroot, or force the user to have the ftp shell that's locked to their home directory
[15:39] <angy> fusion
[15:39] <zenger> ikonia: I'm gonna try it now, just a sec
[15:40] <Shadowandlight> ikonia: in vsftpd chroot_local_user=yes (its uncommended)
[15:40] <ikonia> Shadowandlight: and has vsftpd been restarted since you set that  ?
[15:41] <Shadowandlight> now i am confused... in vsftpd.conf there are 2 lines both having chroot_local_user=YES
[15:42] <opalepatrick> so bekks, thanks for your teaser of an answer. Enough to off searching again but not quite enough info to solve the issue.
[15:42] <ikonia> Shadowandlight: then your config is wrong and you didn't answer my question
[15:42] <Shadowandlight> its a brand new install and i did restart vsftpd
[15:42] <ikonia> opalepatrick: he's told you the problem in correct clear detail
[15:43] <zenger> ikonia: I tried booting into single and it still stops at "Setting up X socket directories..."
[15:43] <opalepatrick> you are making assumptions ikonia that everyone has the same level of knowledge as you. I was being genuine, not sarcastic btw
[15:44] <ikonia> opalepatrick: I'm not making any assumption at all
[15:44] <zenger> I have no idea how and why, It had the "nomodeset" and "single" option on the linux line
[15:44] <ikonia> opalepatrick: if you are unsure of what that means, just ask
[15:44] <ikonia> zenger: single is for single user mode.
[15:44] <zenger> I added that to grub
[15:45] <ikonia> zenger: get rid of nomodeset for a test
[15:45] <zenger> gimme a sec
[15:45] <ikonia> zenger: it really shouldn't matter, but I'm curious
[15:46] <opalepatrick> OK ikonia, how does one solve the problem of different group ids relating to permissions on a shared directory? Any help appreciated.
[15:46] <zenger> well this time it seems to be loading x, as the screen resolution has changed
[15:46] <zenger> and yup
[15:46] <zenger> it stops there again
[15:46] <zenger> I have an old cd ubuntu '10.10'
[15:47] <zenger> maybe I can use it to destroy the xorg somehow
[15:47] <ikonia> opalepatrick: you need to either a.) stop using a shared directories between two OS's - mysql is not designed to work like that or b.) change tue users UID/GID's  on one of the distros to match the other
[15:47] <zenger> or restore the old ubuntu setup
[15:47] <ikonia> zenger: single user should not launch X unless you have modified your init system/scripts
[15:47] <zenger> I did not modify anything, I assure you
[15:47] <zenger> I suppose the update did that
[15:47] <opalepatrick> Cheers ikonia, I will need to go back and see how I got it to work before I trashed the two previous installs
[15:48] <BlueSquirrel> Hello guys, I'm trying to access data in a Mac Time Machine Backup hard drive and copy it to another hard drive. However, altho I can see the data, I can't copy any of it. Can someone help?
[15:49] <ikonia> BlueSquirrel: what do you mean by can't copy it, explain the problem please.
[15:49] <BlueSquirrel> ikonia:  I'm trying to grab the files and put them on a folder on a different ahrd drive, but tells me i have no permission
[15:49] <BlueSquirrel> ikonia:  at first I couldnt even see them, but after a sudo nautilus it let me go through them
[15:49] <GH0> Hello, I was in here under the nick ubuntuissues with drive and file system problems. Well, I had to re-initialize a RAID 0 Array, and lost the data. However, no matter how many times I try to create a new partition using fdisk, partitionmanager, gparted, etc, it constantly fails.
[15:49] <ikonia> BlueSquirrel: permissoin to write to the target drive perhaps as if you can read the source drive, you can copy off
[15:50] <ikonia> GH0: how big is your raid 0 stripe ?
[15:51] <GH0> I believe it is 128
[15:51] <ikonia> GH0: 128 what
[15:51] <GH0> 128 kb
[15:51] <ikonia> GH0: no, sorry, I mean how big is the stripe of the two disks,
[15:51] <GH0> Here is what fdisk /dev/sdb keeps reporting every time I attempt to create a new partition: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6025458/
[15:51] <enkindle> Is there a good channel for asking about hardware issues?
[15:52] <GH0> Oh, in total the storage iis 500 GB. Unless I don't understand what you are asking. :/
[15:52] <zenger> I tried everything :( it won't boot, I tried xforcevesa and still no change
[15:52] <ikonia> GH0: ok, that's good
[15:52] <zenger> I found another issue "input: failed to attach handler evbug to device input7, error: -1"
[15:52] <ikonia> GH0: how did you setup the raid stipe
[15:52] <BlueSquirrel> ikonia: nice point, I did another sudo nautilus in a different terminal to open the target hard drive, and it's working now! thanks ikonia! this is the second time I come here and you save my ass :)
[15:52] <GH0> ikonia, not on or near the machine, it;s about two hours away. So. :/
[15:52] <zenger> could it somehow stop the boot ?
[15:52] <Dr_Willis> BlueSquirrel:  use 'gksudo nautilus' and really its not a great idea to run nautilus as root.
[15:52] <ikonia> zenger: more context would be needed
[15:52] <GH0> But, even if I try to w and then have it automatically quit, nothing seems to be resolving itself. It just doesn't seem to sync the disks.
[15:53] <ikonia> GH0: that isn't what I asked
[15:53] <zenger> ikonia: what more information do you require ?
[15:53] <ikonia> GH0: how did you create the raid array was the question
[15:53] <Dr_Willis> zenger:  thats just some sort of mouse, or device on a usb port. I doubt if its the cause of any issue
[15:53] <zenger> then I'm out of ideas
[15:53] <bwayne> greetings fellow earth_creatures
[15:54] <Dr_Willis> zenger:  perhaps restate the whole issue from the beginning to the channel.
[15:54] <GH0> ikonia, It is using a PERC 5i hardware raid, with two 250 GB disks. In Write Through Mode
[15:54] <Dr_Willis> bbl
[15:54] <ikonia> GH0: ahh, so it's a hardware raid array
[15:54] <GH0> I had this same setup earlier, and something caused it to freak out, which Is why I thought the initialization would help fix it. I looked at the SMART status being reported on the RAID card, and it says it is fine.
[15:55] <ikonia> GH0: ok, so you're in good shape as a hardware raid array should be easier to manage
[15:55] <ikonia> GH0: you need a partition table on there obviously, so lets see if you can get one on there,
[15:55] <zenger> I have an old laptop, I had ubuntu running on him for about half a year. didn't update or anything. today I decided to update. I updated the way I usually do. "sudo apt-get update", then "sudo apt-get upgrade", then "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade". Afterwards I rebooted, now the notebook won't start: It stops booting at this line "Setting up X socket directories..."
[15:55] <ikonia> GH0: sudo fdisk /dev/sdb - then "n" then the setup, then "w", what happens
[15:56] <zenger> This issue persist through everywhere, in recovery mode with single option or "xforcevesa" option.
[15:56] <GH0> ikonia, It will go through the setup process, tell me that I can create a primary partition in slot 1. Press w, says it finishes, then check with fdisk -l and nothing is listed
[15:56] <GH0> Unfortunately, that is what I have been trying.
[15:56] <enkindle> Some programs will send an email report on issues but it just winds up in /var/mail/root ... does anyone know of an article that would show me how to set up the system to use my SMTP to actually send these emails? Or at least what I should google for, I'm just getting generic mail crap.
[15:56] <ikonia> GH0: so it doesn't error in any way at all
[15:57] <GH0> Nope
[15:57] <GH0> I can try one more time though.
[15:57] <GH0> Hold on
[15:57] <OfficerFlyingGur> i would like to ask. what is the most resource friendly flavor of ubuntu?
[15:57] <zenger> OfficerFlyingGur: I think lubuntu
[15:58] <OfficerFlyingGur> thanks.
[15:58] <GH0> ikonia, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6025475/
[15:59] <ikonia> GH0: ok, so two things spring to mind here
[16:00] <ikonia> GH0: 1.) try using parted - lets see what happens there 2.) the last time I saw this was on a HP p210 array with a failing battery backup, and the battery backup couldn't commit changes
[16:00] <karab44> hello
[16:01] <karab44> what does it mean by typing fdisk -l, that Disk /dev/mapper/aq-root doesn't contain partition table
[16:01] <karab44> is this serious error?
[16:01] <karab44> I got the same for swap partition aswell
[16:01] <ikonia> karab44: is it a logical volume ?
[16:02] <karab44> ikonia: you mean Lvm ?
[16:02] <waterlite> hi ya'll
[16:02] <ikonia> karab44: yes, that's one way to have one
[16:02] <GH0> ikonia, Unfortunately, the battery backup is not installed, so they are in the mode that doesn't matter.
[16:02] <karab44> ikonia: yes, it is logical volume
[16:02] <GH0> Unless I incorrectly configured it. I will have to call the people that are hosting it and ask them to change it.
[16:02] <ikonia> GH0: ok, that's good, so that's one problem resolved
[16:03] <ikonia> karab44: then no, it's not a problem, logical volumes shouldn't have partition tables
[16:03] <rhumbot> hi all, i have a problem: when starting ubuntu 12.04 i get a black screen when i should enter the password. in fact it looks like an input line, where the system prints information when i plug in an usb stick for example. i also see the mouse curser
[16:03] <GH0> I can't remember if it is in Write Back or Wrtie Through mode, but it is supposed to automatically switch it over when the battery fails.
[16:03] <GH0> Either way, hold on, let me try parted
[16:03] <zenger> ikonia: I've noticed something odd. when I'm trying to boot normally the resolution changes. when i'm trying to go into recovery the resolution doesn't change but the it freezes at the same point.
[16:03] <rhumbot> when starting from the usb stick and using "try ubuntu without installing" it works fine
[16:04] <GH0> Not really familiar with this one though.
[16:04] <rhumbot> is there anything i can do to fix this ?
[16:04] <karab44> ikonia: swap and this mapper-root has Disk-identifier: 0x0000000
[16:04] <karab44> is this serious issue?
[16:04] <ikonia> karab44: where are you getting that error
[16:04] <karab44> ikonia: Okay
[16:04] <karab44> after typing fdisk -l
[16:05] <Shadowandlight> i cannot get a new vsftpd user to make directories in their home folder... what am i doing wrong?  they are getting Command:	MKD test
[16:05] <Shadowandlight> Response:	550 Permission denied.
[16:05] <karab44> ikonia: I read what you wrote above, if it's not serious issue, then that's ok :)
[16:05] <ikonia> karab44: zero issue
[16:06] <GH0> ikonia, you don't happen to have a link to a guide for creating a partition through parted do you?
[16:06] <ikonia> GH0: no to hand, I know it's a bit more complex, but the help comand normally works enough for me
[16:06] <karab44> ikonia: thank you very much
[16:06] <karab44> for helping me :)
[16:07] <rebbecajohnson20> Hy evrybody :-)
[16:07] <Migthymind> hi rebecajohnson20
[16:07] <GH0> Well, I think I am off to a great start:
[16:07] <GH0> (parted) mkpart
[16:07] <GH0> Error: /dev/sdb: unrecognised disk label
[16:08] <ikonia> GH0: no no, that's good
[16:08] <ikonia> GH0: label it
[16:08] <ikonia> GH0: mklabel I think is the command
[16:08] <ikonia> GH0: check though as I'm rusty
[16:09] <GH0> ikonia, You found a bug in GNU Parted! Here's what you have to do:
[16:09] <GH0> I don't think that is going to work either. :P
[16:10] <ikonia> GH0: what happened ?
[16:12] <alxndr> booted up and then kernel panic on the ubuntu facility man that ain't right
[16:12] <pure> Hello!
[16:12] <alxndr> just run phone
[16:12] <pure> How does Ubuntu Mobile compare to Android?
[16:12] <waterlite> Anone from India?
[16:13] <waterlite> Anyone from India*
[16:13] <waterlite> Im Indian
[16:13] <GH0> ikonia, it looks like it creates a msdos label, but it doesn't actually do it. So I thought I would try creating a GPT tabel, and that failed too.
[16:13] <B0r3dw15dom> waterlite hi
[16:14] <alxndr> forget about it, i am just unlucky
[16:14] <rhumbot> could some expert please help me: my booting into a blackscreen can be fixed by using restart lightdm. but i have to do this every time i boot....
[16:14] <pure> Also, how does one get Ubuntu for Phones?
[16:15] <wseg> pure: Ubuntu for phones is still in development
[16:15] <alxndr> Ubuntu howE 3.5 man
[16:16] <mjayk> Haya has anyone managed to sync music with a wp8 within Ubuntu ?
[16:16] <ikonia> GH0: that's a similar behaviour you're seeing with fdisk
[16:16] <ikonia> GH0: that suggest the array/controller is the problem to me
[16:17] <GH0> Yeah, I seem to have a bigger problem: aptitude: error while loading shared libraries: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libsigc-2.0.so.0: invalid ELF header
[16:17] <GH0> How can I reinstall that?
[16:17] <GH0> would it just be "apt-get --reinstall libsigc++-2.0"
[16:18] <alxndr> i did some work on the vsftp how to get the debug menu?
[16:18] <ikonia> GH0: whoaaaa that looks like 32bit packages on a 64bit host ?
[16:19] <ikonia> GH0: (or viceaversa)
[16:19] <pure> Has anything been said about a projected price for the Edge?
[16:19] <GH0> ikonia, yeah... well... that application is needed for tons of CLI commands apparently.
[16:19] <ikonia> pure: the edge is dead ,
[16:19] <GH0> Causing me to run into some issues.
[16:19] <GH0> It is a manually installed package
[16:19] <ikonia> GH0: yes, but what's happened to it ? run file against that library please.
[16:19] <ikonia> GH0: manually installed.....from where/how
[16:19] <SchrodingersScat> pure: the low, low price of doesn't exist.
[16:21] <pure> Well, is there any form of Ubuntu available on phones?
[16:21] <GH0> From the install disc I think.
[16:21] <GH0> I have to go, wiill you be on later ikonia
[16:21] <ikonia> GH0: let me know what you find.
[16:23] <mjayk> Haya has anyone managed to sync music with a wp8 within Ubuntu ?
[16:24] <kostkon> mjayk: just to clarify, you mean windows phone 8 right?
[16:24] <AcidRain2012> where can i install apc with ubuntu? its not in the repos
[16:25] <kostkon> !find apc
[16:25] <ikonia> AcidRain2012: apc ? as in the ups software ?
[16:26] <AcidRain2012> ikonia, no. as in an upload progress bar support for apache
[16:26] <AcidRain2012> ikonia, sry, its called APC
[16:26] <ikonia> AcidRain2012: not a problem, was just clarifing which software you wanted
[16:27] <AcidRain2012> ikonia, i found it. thx. its under php-apc
[16:27] <pure> So what happened to Ubuntu Mobile?
[16:27] <kostkon> !info php-apc
[16:28] <kostkon> indeed
[16:28] <ikonia> AcidRain2012: ah, so it's not actually an apache thing, it's php for apache
[16:30] <deemeetar> Hey guys, what's the best way to make app indicator with more complicated buttons then just regular menu items in python?
[16:30] <deemeetar> I know there is a way since ubuntu has such indicators but i don't know how to go about them
[16:31] <kostkon> deemeetar: you could get and examine the code of one of those indicators
[16:32] <cjpcjp> hey all, odd problem, my server has literally stopped functioning however I've noticed that on reboot, my prompt is no longer colored and bash aliases don't function, as if I'm in a different mode (it's not recovery, checked grub). Any ideas, I'm at a loss
[16:32] <kostkon> deemeetar: easy way to do it if they are in the repos,  apt-get source package_name
[16:32] <deemeetar> kostkon: I found just the netwrok and battery indicator which aren't that complicated... i think i want to see the me menu
[16:33] <foo> Gah, this dropbox daemon is being a pain. It's throwing this error: Can't sync "burger_grill.jpg": permission denied - the problem: I have a dozen files with this name in different directories. The user who is running dropbox is part of www-apache group, and every file has at least 755 and is owned by my user or www-data. Any tips on how I can fix this? been having this issue for months but have never dealt with it
[16:33] <kostkon> deemeetar: just fetch the code with apt-get source. simples
[16:33] <Smilex> When running an executable, is /usr/local/lib always checked for libraries?
[16:34] <deemeetar> kostkon: ok ty
[16:37] <zteam> Hi all!
[16:37] <hio> hi guys, who do I talk to, to get a ban reversed?
[16:37] <zteam> I'm having problems with compiz crashing  so my desktop gets restarted quite often
[16:37] <zteam> how can I troubleshoot this?
[16:38] <zteam> I'm on Ubuntu 13.04
[16:38] <aj_> have u tried a good ol' google searcH?
[16:38] <aj_> at the compiz homepage, i remember a section in their troubleshooting with something about frequent reboots.
[16:38] <zteam> aj_, do you mean me?
[16:39] <aj_> might wanna check those two spots
[16:39] <aj_> yeah
[16:39] <zteam> aj_, yes i have searched aslot about it
[16:39] <hio> where can I order the ubuntu edge?
[16:39] <DJones> hio: You can't can't
[16:39] <zteam> aj_, but I'm gonna check their webpage too oft course
[16:39] <Luyin> hio you can't
[16:40] <DJones> !touch | hio You can discuss the Ubuntu mobile platform in the channels the bot suggest though,
[16:41] <aj_> zteam, does it make your computer freeze up and you have to manually reboot?
[16:41] <zteam> aj_, nope it doesn't
[16:42] <SwashBuckla> !sparse file not allowed
[16:42] <zteam> aj_, it only reboots itself
[16:42] <SwashBuckla> !"sparse file not allowed"
[16:42] <SwashBuckla> !UEFI
[16:42] <aj_> the computer reboots or the software compiz reboots?
[16:42] <zteam> aj_, compiz (not the computer)
[16:42] <aj_> got it.
[16:43] <SwashBuckla> Hi there, I am getting the error "Sparse File Not Allowed, Press Any Key To Continue...." When I boot my computer. I am using 13.04 on a Windows 8 laptop with UEFI disabled (Legacy mode is enabled instead)
[16:43] <aj_> do you get a blank desktop when compiz fails?
[16:43] <SwashBuckla> btrfs is my partition format for Ubuntu
[16:43] <ShapeShifter499> hi
[16:43] <zteam> aj_, so I tried reseting compiz but it had no effect
[16:43] <mjayk> SwashBuckla: is that before or after grub/
[16:44] <zteam> aj_, yes exactly
[16:44] <SwashBuckla> mjayk: after grub
[16:44] <SwashBuckla> mjayk: Immediately after grub.
[16:44] <mjayk> only occurs when you select ubuntu, SwashBuckla
[16:44] <Anho> I am following a guide on how to browse completely anonymously.  Basically, I am running VirtualBox in Win7 with TOR running already on host.  I am using Damn Small Linux just as a firewall. I enable Network Adapter 2 and set "Attached to" to "Internal Network". I start it then right click on the desktop, go to System, go to Daemons, ssh, and start.  Then, I right click again on the desktop, go to XShells -> Root Access -> Transparent 
[16:44] <SwashBuckla> mjayk: correct
[16:45] <Anho> ifconfig eth1 10.0.3.1     then Snapshot the state so I can just restore every time.  For Ubuntu, I change Network Adapter 1  "Attached to" to "Internal Network" then start it (Ubuntu is already set up).  In Firefox on Ubuntu I change "HTTP Proxy" and "SSL Proxy" to 127.0.0.1 with both ports being 8118.  Then "SOCKS Host" to 127.0.0.1 port 9150.  Then in Terminal I type "sudo bash" and enter Ubuntu password then "ifconfig eth0 10.0.3.2
[16:45] <Anho> enter "ssh -N -L 9150:10.0.2.2:9150 root@10.0.3.1" it says, "ssh: connect to host 10.0.3.1 port 22: Network is unreachable".  Any ideas why? Also, I keep getting a pop-up saying, "Wired Network Disconnected - you are now offline".  I can link the guide if need be.
[16:45] <zteam> aj_, I also tried to wipe my home folder from every trace of compiz that I could find
[16:45] <ShapeShifter499> can someone confirm for me that zram is broken in the latest kernels?
[16:46] <ShapeShifter499> seems broken in any kernel between 3.8 and 3.10
[16:46] <aj_> i'm browsing some support pages. i hope to find something useful
[16:46] <mjayk> SwashBuckla: can you run sudo gedit /etc/grub.d/00_header
[16:46] <SwashBuckla> mjayk: here is my Boot-Repair summary http://paste.ubuntu.com/6025637/
[16:46] <SwashBuckla> mjayk: ok I will run that too
[16:47] <mjayk> SwashBuckla: do you have "if [ -n ${have_grubenv} ]; then save_env recordfail; fi"  in that file
[16:47] <SwashBuckla> mjayk: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6025643/
[16:47] <ShapeShifter499> just run "sudo apt-get install zram-config" then make the computer use swap, if the system hangs then run "sudo apt-get purge zram-config" on the next boot and tell me about it
[16:47] <SwashBuckla> mjayk: I will search for that string
[16:47] <mjayk> SwashBuckla: kk gimme a sec
[16:48] <zteam> aj_, any ideas :-) ?
[16:48] <Anho> I am following a guide on how to browse completely anonymously.  Basically, I am running VirtualBox in Win7 with TOR running already on host.  I am using Damn Small Linux just as a firewall. I enable Network Adapter 2 and set "Attached to" to "Internal Network". I start it then right click on the desktop, go to System, go to Daemons, ssh, and start.  Then, I right click again on the desktop, go to XShells -> Root Access -> Transparent 
[16:48] <mjayk> SwashBuckla: ok line 93 in the paste bin
[16:48] <Anho> ifconfig eth1 10.0.3.1     then Snapshot the state so I can just restore every time.  For Ubuntu, I change Network Adapter 1  "Attached to" to "Internal Network" then start it (Ubuntu is already set up).  In Firefox on Ubuntu I change "HTTP Proxy" and "SSL Proxy" to 127.0.0.1 with both ports being 8118.  Then "SOCKS Host" to 127.0.0.1 port 9150.  Then in Terminal I type "sudo bash" and enter Ubuntu password then "ifconfig eth0 10.0.3.2
[16:48] <mjayk> SwashBuckla:   if [ -n "\${have_grubenv}" ]; then if [ -z "\${boot_once}" ]; then save_env recordfail; fi; fi
[16:48] <Anho> enter "ssh -N -L 9150:10.0.2.2:9150 root@10.0.3.1" it says, "ssh: connect to host 10.0.3.1 port 22: Network is unreachable".  Any ideas why? Also, I keep getting a pop-up saying, "Wired Network Disconnected - you are now offline".  I can link the guide if need be.
[16:49] <SwashBuckla> mjayk: no I do not have that line exactly as you first posted it
[16:49] <SwashBuckla> but line 93 is the most similar
[16:49] <mjayk> yea thats right
[16:49] <mjayk> two things to try
[16:50] <SwashBuckla> mjayk: so it is correct in the file already?
[16:50] <caf4926> Looking for advice on Samba > totally new to it, well not even installed but want to know..
[16:50] <mjayk> SwashBuckla: first comment out that line, then run "update-grub" and or "update-grub2" I cant remeber which 1 but doing both wont hurt
[16:51] <caf4926> Can you access shares remotely over the net?
[16:51] <SwashBuckla> mjayk: remember, I am within the livecd. Would running update-grub do anything to the installed Ubuntu on the HDD?
[16:52] <SwashBuckla> mjayk: unless you mean: Comment out the line on the HDD from the LiveCD, reboot, and then run update-grub (assuming commenting out that line allows me to boot)
[16:52] <caf4926> SwashBuckla: update-grub in live session? are you chroot
[16:52] <SwashBuckla> caf4926: no
[16:52] <mjayk> SwashBuckla: It will update the grub configuration menu, i think doing it from the HDD would be best
[16:52] <SwashBuckla> caf4926: is suggesting to run update-grub from the LiveCD
[16:53] <SwashBuckla> caf4926: mjayk is
[16:53] <SwashBuckla> sorry
[16:53] <mjayk> SwashBuckla: no :) i think best from within the HDD install not live cd
[16:53] <SwashBuckla> mjayk: is it "best" or the only option
[16:53] <SwashBuckla> mjayk: because I can't boot the HDD install
[16:53] <caf4926> SwashBuckla: what you trying to fix
[16:54] <mjayk> caf4926: its the old "sparse file" warning on a btrfs install
[16:54] <Anho> I am following a guide on how to browse completely anonymously.  Basically, I am running VirtualBox in Win7 with TOR running already on host.  I am using Damn Small Linux just as a firewall. I enable Network Adapter 2 and set "Attached to" to "Internal Network". I start it then right click on the desktop, go to System, go to Daemons, ssh, and start.  Then, I right click again on the desktop, go to XShells -> Root Access -> Transparent 
[16:54] <Anho> ifconfig eth1 10.0.3.1     then Snapshot the state so I can just restore every time.  For Ubuntu, I change Network Adapter 1  "Attached to" to "Internal Network" then start it (Ubuntu is already set up).  In Firefox on Ubuntu I change "HTTP Proxy" and "SSL Proxy" to 127.0.0.1 with both ports being 8118.  Then "SOCKS Host" to 127.0.0.1 port 9150.  Then in Terminal I type "sudo bash" and enter Ubuntu password then "ifconfig eth0 10.0.3.2
[16:54] <Anho> enter "ssh -N -L 9150:10.0.2.2:9150 root@10.0.3.1" it says, "ssh: connect to host 10.0.3.1 port 22: Network is unreachable".  Any ideas why? Also, I keep getting a pop-up saying, "Wired Network Disconnected - you are now offline".  I can link the guide if need be.
[16:54] <SwashBuckla> caf4926: immediately after grub, I get the error: "error: sparse file not allowed. Press any key to continue..."
[16:54] <FloodBot1> Anho: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:54] <caf4926> *not btrfs...sigh
[16:55] <SwashBuckla> caf4926: yes it is btrfs
[16:56] <SwashBuckla> caf4926: here is my Boot-Repair summary  http://paste.ubuntu.com/6025637/
[16:59] <caf4926> SwashBuckla: I don't know the answer but I see you also have efi with win8
[16:59] <root____1> Hello
[16:59] <SwashBuckla> caf4926: yes
[16:59] <root____1> I am just testing irssi
[17:00] <SwashBuckla> caf4926: mjayk mentioned update-grub from the HDD, but I can't boot into the HDD
[17:00] <SwashBuckla> so mjayk's advice falls over
[17:00] <caf4926> SwashBuckla: do you know what partition format ubuntu would choose if you let it default install?
[17:00] <Zildjiandrummerx> Any ideas why Empathy does work with FB chat? Or does it take some time to propagate after you gramted access to the application?
[17:00] <Zildjiandrummerx> *granted
[17:01] <ShapeShifter499> Everyone please ignore my request to test zram
[17:01] <SwashBuckla> caf4926: none. There was none available. I had to explicitly shrink a Windows 8 partition
[17:01] <ShapeShifter499> zram is the issue and will cause system hangs and crashes when swapping
[17:02] <caf4926> SwashBuckla: well I think you miss my point... it would default to ext4
[17:02] <Zildjiandrummerx> Never mind, that was the case..its working now
[17:02] <SwashBuckla> caf4926: oh which FORMAT
[17:02] <SwashBuckla> caf4926: yes I did miss your point :P
[17:02] <SwashBuckla> c	it defaulted to Ext4, yes
[17:02] <SwashBuckla> caf4926: ^
[17:03] <SwashBuckla> I could completely reinstall.. won't take too long
[17:03] <SwashBuckla> caf4926: is this a BTRFS-specific bug?
[17:03] <SwashBuckla> perhaps choosing Ext4 will allow me to get further
[17:03] <caf4926> SwashBuckla: just wondered how and why btrfs got in there
[17:04] <SwashBuckla> caf4926: I chose btrfs
[17:04] <caf4926> SwashBuckla: I recommed ext4
[17:04] <caf4926> SwashBuckla: you should also check https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI
[17:05] <caf4926> SwashBuckla: I see you have a GPT table
[17:06] <caf4926> SwashBuckla: don't you just hate what freekin' mess winders makes of things
[17:07] <SwashBuckla> eh, I'll give it a shot
[17:07] <caf4926> SwashBuckla: if you do a clean install, don't let the installer manage the setup, you need to go advanced (something else)
[17:08] <caf4926> SwashBuckla: and point to the existing partitions, and format where necessary
[17:08] <SwashBuckla> caf4926: winders! Are you from yorkshire?
[17:08] <caf4926> SwashBuckla: lake district
[17:08] <caf4926> winders is slang for windows
[17:11] <SkeeterB> can someone help me with a Wine question?
[17:12] <SkeeterB> I installed Q4wine and i need to locate the WINE libraries to continue the Q4Wine setup
[17:12] <ikonia> SkeeterB: I'd suggest working with the wine providers, the wine support channel is #winehq
[17:12] <SwashBuckla> caf4926: oops, shell died
[17:12] <SwashBuckla> I'm from Bristol
[17:13] <SwashBuckla> some people here say winders too :P
[17:14] <caf4926> SwashBuckla: there is an interesting BSL sign for Bristol
[17:17] <DaphneGreengrass> hi beboj
[17:19] <ggherdov> hello. when you boot w/ the ubuntu live CD, at what path is th hard disk mounted? I am recovering data in a ill system, did CTRL+ALT+F2 to get into a tty since w/ 512 MB of ram the GUI was too slow, now need to know at what place I can find my hd.
[17:19] <ggherdov> any thought?
[17:20] <ikonia> ggherdov: if you're not using the gui - you need to mount your hard disk
[17:20] <ggherdov> ikonia: well, the guy did kick in, and I opened nautilus and sow the HD.
[17:20] <ikonia> ggherdov: mount will show you then
[17:21] <ikonia> ggherdov: top tip, use the lubuntu livecd and you can use a gui that's reasonably responsive on your lower spec machine
[17:21] <ggherdov> ikonia: that's what I did but the output is confusing. cannot clearly see a thing that recalls me of my hd
[17:21] <katkisson> Does anyone know what is a VGA monitor and what is a DVI monitor? I have a broken computer screen and I have hooked it up to a seprate monitor to work with it. Which is which?
[17:22] <ggherdov> ikonia: ah, nice... lubuntu
[17:22] <ikonia> katkisson: talk to the ##hardware channel
[17:22] <ggherdov> like light-ubuntu ?
[17:22] <mjayk> kaktuskuchen: VGA and DVI refer to the type of plugs that go into the graphics card
[17:22] <katkisson> o.k. thanks
[17:22] <SkeeterB> DVI is Digital Video Input
[17:22] <ikonia> ggherdov: pretty much
[17:23] <logicshan> coq
[17:23] <mjayk> SkeeterB: what does VGA stand for ? out of curiosity
[17:23] <SkeeterB> Video Graphics Adaptor... DUH
[17:36] <RenAstimpY> hey, if i connect my TV with my laptop with hdmi but no sound
[17:36] <RenAstimpY> why is that so :S
[17:39] <Jacta___> Does anyone have expierence with wmvare player5 and shared folders?
[17:39] <bekks> Jacta___: How is that related to Ubuntu? :)
[17:40] <alxndr> `MArceLL`,
[17:42] <seronis> every time i click an http link in a non web browser the Muon Software Center pops open asking me to install firefox, instead of the webpage just opening in chrome which is already installed.
[17:42] <seronis> anyone able to help resolve this ?
[17:43] <OerHeks> seronis, set chrome as default.
[17:44] <katkisson> what am i doing wrong. hardware ware says, "hardware : cannot send to channel".
[17:44] <bekks> katkisson: You need to have a registered nickname.
[17:44] <katkisson> well this is my computer's name. What do you mean registered nickname?
[17:45] <OerHeks> seronis, open 'system settings' > sytem > details - 2nd tab 'default applications'
[17:45] <katkisson> I mean this is my user name
[17:46] <bekks> katkisson: The name of your computer is totally irrelevant in IRC.
[17:46] <bekks> !freenode | katkisson
[17:46] <IdleOne> !register
[17:46] <OerHeks> katkisson, some channels require registration
[17:46] <katkisson> oh, so is this the regular chat most everybody gets on?
[17:47] <OerHeks> katkisson, this channel is low level entry, others are more strict
[17:47] <katkisson> o.k.  how do I register?
[17:48] <OerHeks> see ubottu's message
[17:48] <bekks> katkisson: Please read the text ubottu wrote to you.
[17:49] <katkisson> you mean on the hardware channel?
[17:49] <bekks> katkisson: No, it was posted to you in this channel.
[17:49] <RoyK> hi all. trying to make a bootable usb thing from a mac, and the docs say use "hdiutil convert -format UDRW ...", but the output file is identical to the input file, and things doesn't work
[17:49] <andybrine> Evening Everyone
[17:50] <katkisson> hummm o.k. I'll quit and turn it on again to see. thanks
[17:50] <andybrine> Does anyone know a good program to record a video dvd?
[17:50] <Luyin> !anyone
[17:50] <qwjdoi> I tried to share HP laserjet P1102. There is some prompt and confirmination before the drivers install... anyone know how this could happen in my ubuntu server?
[17:51] <andybrine> thanks Luyin, the question is there lol
[17:51] <katkisson> o.k.  I chose the Ubuntu channel and now I would like to go to the "hardware channel".  How do I do that?
[17:52] <bekks> katkisson: The same way you did a few minutes ago.
[17:52] <bekks> katkisson: Register your nickname first.
[17:52] <andybrine> im trying to create a video dvd and im looking for a good application to do that
[17:52] <katkisson> oh   o.k.
[17:54] <really> what do i type to know what python version i have? thanks
[17:55] <RoyK> python -V # ?
[17:55] <NewWorld> really:  man python
[17:55] <WinstonSmith> or --version?
[17:55] <qwjdoi> followup. I have successfully installed the propr~ driver on Ubuntu desktop. Where are the settings/etc.. can I copy them to the Ubuntu Server
[17:55] <RoyK> NewWorld: the manpage doesn't always reflect the installed version
[17:56] <mykinz> Hello, I just installed Ubuntu and am having problems with battery life.  Can anyone here help me?
[17:56] <NewWorld> RoyK:  I was implying he can find the argument to show version in the man
[17:56] <Max-Powerz> just type python
[17:56] <Max-Powerz> and then exit it
[17:56] <RoyK> NewWorld: easier to just do python -V
[17:56] <WinstonSmith> RoyK: but --help should ;-)
[17:57] <Max-Powerz> lolcatz@ubuntu:~$ python
[17:57] <Max-Powerz> Python 2.7.2+ (default, Oct  4 2011, 20:03:08)
[17:57] <Max-Powerz> [GCC 4.6.1] on linux2
[17:57] <Max-Powerz> Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.
[17:57] <Max-Powerz> >>>
[17:57] <FloodBot1> Max-Powerz: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:57] <plumblum> hello peeps
[17:58] <NewWorld> teach a man to fish... it's important to know how to use man instead of asking easy questions
[17:58] <plumblum> for file permissions, which groups non groups are included in others ?
[17:58] <plumblum> or is others anyone else
[17:59] <plumblum> is others for example everyone except local/system users
[17:59] <Zenger> Hi guys, well I've decided to reinstall ubuntu. And now I'm stuck with a wi-fi problem. It won't install. I'm trying to install wi-fi through Additional drivers but at a certain point it gives an error,although it seems to work I'm not sure it does. this is my third attempt at installing the driver. Now the dmesg has a very odd error which I can not understand.
[17:59] <Leidenfrost> Hello. I have a repeated issue with ubuntu (and all its derivatives). The boot process just hangs itself, leaving no exception nor exception. I tried to boot without the ¨ro quiet¨ option and it just mounts the ext4 / partition and hangs
[17:59] <Zenger> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6025856/ here about 400 sec you can see some big difference
[17:59] <mykinz> If anyone is interested in helping me with my battery issue, I explained the whole thing here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/337130/poor-battery-life-on-samsung-series-5-np550p5c
[18:00] <vice_> Folks, me again
[18:00] <vice_> All soft for iphone managment errors
[18:00] <vice_> Unsupported checksum type
[18:01] <vice_> How the hell can i upload files on my iphone?:<
[18:07] <mahi_> need some help..... how can I delete (I use this on run in windows) temp; %temp%; prefetch
[18:07] <MonkeyDust> vice_  sure you're in the right channel?
[18:13] <mahi_> How ca I delete Temp, Cookies and Prefetch?
[18:14] <Jaap_Jansen> .
[18:14] <mahi_> How can I delete Temp, Cookies and Prefetch? Sorry, miss-spelled 1st time....
[18:15] <alxndr> history -c
[18:15] <Jaap_Jansen> I am in the proces of building a firewall with Ubuntu 13.04 server. I wanna configure the iptables in order to get it work right. I saw the application FirewallBuilder.  Does anybody used this program? Is it a good help in configurating the firewall? Or are there better methods?
[18:17] <elricsfate__wrk> Test
[18:17] <elricsfate__wrk> Greetings all. Is there a way to use fdisk during the Ubuntu alternate server install
[18:18] <elricsfate__wrk> In short I'm trying to be sure RAID is configured properly. The curses setup screen is slightly difficult understand in the that regard
[18:21] <vice_> Folks, someone faced with unsupported checksum type?
[18:22] <alxndr> constructor method iw dev loop4 cycle || pingback()
[18:23] <vice_> are u talking for me alxndr?
[18:23] <vice_> to me*
[18:23] <alxndr> i was thanking Jaap
[18:23] <vice_> okay, fast question, do u have apple devices? :>
[18:25] <alxndr> omitted the loop6 on a NOK device
[18:25] <alxndr> none vice_
[18:26] <alxndr> i saw a nice mac video today though
[18:34] <SwashBuckla> I'"
[18:34] <SwashBuckla> whoops :)
[18:35] <dark_lord> hello guys, I am having a doubt. What happened when we do sudo ? I mean is the effective id changed to 0 or something else ? Is sudo a setuid program like s
[18:36] <ActionParsnip> dark_lord: if you are in the sudo group then the commands will have root access but use your profile and settings
[18:36] <Migthymind> Hi girl! how are u?
[18:37] <Migthymind> oh sorry i wrong window ;p
[18:37] <Jaap_Jansen> I am in the proces of building a firewall with Ubuntu 13.04 server. I wanna configure the iptables in order to get it work right. I saw the application FirewallBuilder.  Does anybody used this program? Is it a good help in configurating the firewall? Or are there better methods?
[18:37] <ActionParsnip> dark_lord: you can setup groups of users and command aliases to restrict commands users can use sudo with if you wish too
[18:37] <Guest87745> hi girl
[18:37] <bazhang> !ufw | Jaap_Jansen
[18:37] <Guest87745> hello
[18:38] <SwashBuckla> people -- pray for my Ubuntu 13.04 to work
[18:38] <SwashBuckla> it's in the process of installing now
[18:38] <ActionParsnip> dark_lord: you can also make groups of commands not need password entry but this reduces security
[18:38] <dark_lord> ActionParsnip, yeah. I am talking about when I am in sudo group. But I am not getting how sudo gives root access. I am talking about the implementation of sudo command. Is it changes the effective user id to 0 like su.
[18:38] <Jaap_Jansen> ubottu, i deinstalled the network manager, will that be a problem using the ufw
[18:38] <ActionParsnip> swashbuckla: glad you are reaching the goal :-)
[18:38] <SwashBuckla> Dear Linus, please help me
[18:39] <SwashBuckla> guide me safe and true through this mire of Windows mess
[18:39] <ActionParsnip> dark_lord: su just means switch user. So 'like su' doesnt mean much
[18:40] <ActionParsnip> dark_lord: when you use su to root, your uid becomes 0 but the profile also changes to roots
[18:40] <ActionParsnip> dark_lord: wirh sudo the profile is your own
[18:40] <dark_lord> ActionParsnip, yeah. thats what I am asking, what happens then in case of sudo then ? Is my uid changes ?
[18:41] <ActionParsnip> dark_lord: for that one shot command, yes
[18:42] <dark_lord> ActionParsnip, Can you suggest me some source to read so that I can get more knowledge on that .
[18:42] <ActionParsnip> dark_lord: and as only root and other sudoers can set up users to be in the sudo group, it prevents users promoting themselves
[18:42] <mahi_> Can any one tell me which is help channel for Ubuntu?
[18:42] <bekks> mahi_: This one.
[18:42] <[Gentoo]> mahi_: this
[18:42] <ActionParsnip> mahi_: you are in it
[18:43] <mahi_> Thanks guys.... Please tell me which tool can I use as privacy cleaner? I use ccleaner on windows..
[18:43] <FlowMan> mahi_, BleachBit
[18:44] <MonkeyDust> mahi_  http://ubuntu-tweak.com/    <-- janitor
[18:44] <Antar> hi
[18:44] <jonascj> Hi all. I'm stock in the grub rescue promt but I am unable to input "=" which is required for commands like "set root=/dev/...". Any suggestions? I'm using a danish keyboard. [shift]+[0] gives a "+" not a "=" as it it does in a texteditor / is suppsoed to.
[18:45] <xangua> mahi_: deleating cache and cookies is not gonna keep your privacy online if that is what you expect
[18:45] <FlowMan> mahi_, BleachBit is in Software centre
[18:45] <Antar> when i try to install squid i get E : Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[18:45] <Antar> what is the solution ?
[18:45] <bekks> Antar: Whats the entire output of which command you are running?
[18:46] <mahi_> I found some error while cleanning... like these
[18:46] <mahi_> [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/usr/share/i18n/locales/pa_PK'
[18:46] <FlowMan> mahi_, with what?
[18:46] <jrib> jonascj: echo '\075'
[18:46] <mahi_> in BleachBit
[18:46] <Antar> 1 m to pastbin
[18:47] <FlowMan> mahi_, it depends on what you are cleaning
[18:47] <mahi_> Cann't I Clean System?@ flowman
[18:48] <[Gentoo]> mahi_: what are you trying to clean
[18:48] <Antar> bekks http://paste.ubuntu.com/6026061/
[18:48] <tripelb> 12.04 i want to pit something into ~/.xchat but i am PROTECTED from seeing it by the overarching wisdom of my.masters. Can you help me? Will you?  PS gnome-classic
[18:49] <bekks> Antar: And please provide "lsb_release -a" in a pastebin.
[18:49] <bazhang> tripelb, a script? you can do this via the xchat preferences itself
[18:49] <MonkeyDust> tripelb  ask your masters to help you, i'm sure they have a reason to hide it for you
[18:49] <FlowMan> mahi_, open the root bleachbit
[18:49] <jrib> jonascj: you might also take a look at the output of « dumpkeys » and search for '='
[18:49] <mahi_> Gentoo......System cache, localization, recent doc, temp files
[18:50] <jonascj> jrib: I think your suggestion is very good. It however took me to a ">" promt instead of "grub rescue>" ... maybe I used the wrong quotes
[18:50] <mahi_> how to open root bleachbit?
[18:50] <Antar> bekks http://paste.ubuntu.com/6026069/
[18:50] <jrib> jonascj: hmm.  in grub rescue, I am not sure you have echo.  I'm not sure of the environment there
[18:50] <[Gentoo]> mahi_: gksudo bleachbit
[18:50] <[Gentoo]> mahi_: why do you need root for that
[18:50] <FlowMan> mahi_, search for bleachbit in dash
[18:50] <[Gentoo]> wouldnt trust that
[18:51] <FlowMan> [Gentoo], gksu is no longer installed
[18:51] <jrib> jonascj: are you able to change your keymap?
[18:52] <jonascj> jrib: I'm using VNC to access this computer. On the computer running the VNC viewer I am able to change the keymap. I do not think I can change keymap in the rescue promt it self.
[18:52] <Antar> bekks ?
[18:53] <mahi_> thanks guys
[18:53] <tripelb> for the isnorant who replied CONTROL-H REVEALS HIDDEN FILES.
[18:54] <bazhang> tripelb, yes, thats correct
[18:54] <bazhang> tripelb, you can also choose "load script" or inside of xchat prefs, open the folder
[18:55] <Jaap_Jansen> Suggestion on setting up the firewall?
[18:55] <bazhang> Jaap_Jansen, not seen the ufw that I linked earlier?
[18:55] <Jaap_Jansen> bazhang, sorry
[18:56] <bazhang> !ufw | Jaap_Jansen
[18:56] <Antar> bekks if you arent ready to answer me i will reboot my computer and back ?
[18:57] <Jaap_Jansen> bazhang, i know ufw.  But I uninstalled the networkmanager. Wil it also work without the networkmanager?
[18:57] <Jaap_Jansen> bazhang, and why ufw and not the iptables?
[19:00] <OerHeks> Jaap_Jansen, ufw is just a ip table builder, and gufw the frontend
[19:00] <OerHeks> enable ufw, and you will notice all running services are written in the rules
[19:01] <Jaap_Jansen> OerHeks, OK, I saw the app. firebuilder what you can use to set up the iptables. UFW does the same as firebuilder then? It configure iptables?
[19:02] <CurseNobody> this is showing in terminal, The following package was automatically installed and is no longer required:  linux-image-generic Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove it. what to do?
[19:02] <OerHeks> Jaap_Jansen, Yes. UFW is disabled by default, so it won't bite firewallbuilder
[19:03] <OerHeks> CurseNobody, leave it, or remove it.
[19:03] <Jaap_Jansen> OerHeks, so I can try UFW first. I think UFW is easier to configure. But i don't know if i can use it for a configuration with a WAN, LAN en DMZ as interface cards
[19:03] <katkisson> Man, I can't get on hardware for anything, even if I try to change my nickname. Does anyone know if  a refresh of 60 is cooler or hotter than 75 for a monitor?
[19:04] <OerHeks> Jaap_Jansen, that could be tricky, multiple lancards.
[19:04] <Newbie10> OerHeks, thats my question, should i leave it or remove it? is it gonna cause anything?
[19:04] <Antar> Hi
[19:04] <Antar> bekks --
[19:05] <OerHeks> Newbie10, it just takes diskspace.
[19:05] <Newbie10> OerHeks, nothing else? gonna leave it then anyway
[19:05] <Antar> my ubuntu is slow , is there anyway to increase my speed a little guys ?
[19:05] <Jaap_Jansen> OerHeks, i thought so, that is why i looked a bit further and saw firewalbuilder to configure the iptables. But it is far more complicated then the use of ufw
[19:05] <Newbie10> Antar, slow?
[19:05] <OerHeks> Newbie10, and your grub menu will be 1 instance longer.
[19:06] <Antar> Yeah Newbie10
[19:06] <Antar> Yeah Newbie10 after click something on the behavior
[19:06] <Newbie10> OerHeks, ohh, so just "sudo apt-get autoremove" will remove it?
[19:07] <Antar> newbie10 my computer is 1GB of ram
[19:07] <DragYourHalo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6023929/ - Had a couple of people help a few things last night to no avail. Anyone have any ideas?
[19:07] <Newbie10> Antar, please use Lubuntu or Xubuntu
[19:07] <SkeeterB> UGH Adobe pisses me off by stopping support flash player for linux
[19:07] <Newbie10> ubottu, !lubuntu | Antar
[19:08] <Antar> Newbie10
[19:08] <Antar> no
[19:08] <Newbie10> Antar, what?
[19:08] <Antar> i want to use the default ubuntu it a good theme and envirenoment
[19:08] <ActionParsnip> dragyourhalo: is there not a PPA for what you need?
[19:09] <Newbie10> Antar, well, looks like your hardware cant run unity
[19:09] <SkeeterB> Antar: just download ubunt from ubuntu.com
[19:09] <Antar> Newbie10 anyway to increase the speed without using the lxde or xsfce
[19:09] <cheesecakes> ActionParsnip: google-chrome solved the flash slowness thing
[19:09] <cheesecakes> thanks
[19:09] <ActionParsnip> anyar: you can makebother sesions look like Ubuntu with Ambiance-like themes
[19:09] <ActionParsnip> cheesecakes: awesome
[19:10] <blaircse> hey ppl, I've been getting the error    "ata_id[293]: HDIO_GET_IDENTITY failed for '/dev/sdb': Invalid argument "   on boot, and one of my external usb drives isn't working properly. The drive takes about 5 - 10 extra min from boot up to mount, any suggestions would be awesome
[19:11] <pure>  /wc
[19:11] <SkeeterB> my hardware is pretty old, but it runs Unity fine. Its a Via VA10 mobo using an AMD 1800+ CPU ,1 GB RAM and a NVIDIA vid card w/ 512MB onboard
[19:11] <ActionParsnip> blaircse: set the sata to ide compatibility mode
[19:12] <Antar> SketterB which command i use to get the info ?
[19:12] <Antar> i will pastebin
[19:12] <DragYourHalo> ActionParsnip: PPA?
[19:12] <ActionParsnip> skeeterb: the nvidia will help things. i suggest a ram upgrade. ram is stupidly cheap
[19:12] <ActionParsnip> dragyourhalo: yes
[19:12] <v33> did nvidia release a driver which natively supports optimus, or, are we stuck with bumblebee still?
[19:12] <DragYourHalo> ActionParsnip: Brain fart... elaborate lol
[19:12] <ActionParsnip> v33: bumblebee is native
[19:12] <B0Rg666>  zorin os 7 is based off part of ubuntu for new users
[19:13] <B0Rg666> isnt it
[19:13] <v33> ActionParsnip: i thought they had a driver which took care of all that so there was no longer a need for it...i may be mistaken
[19:13] <ActionParsnip> dragyourhalo: its a 3rd party package source of someone that has already compiled and package at that version
[19:13] <B0Rg666> to give new users a windows like interface to learn from
[19:13] <OerHeks> B0Rg666, zorin has a wiki, we do not know really
[19:13] <ActionParsnip> b0rg666: maybe but its not supported here
[19:14] <cheesecakes> getting 30fps like a boss
[19:14] <B0Rg666> ok i was reading about distros
 :   thanks, do you know a command for this?
[19:14] <ActionParsnip> v33: it still uses the nvidia driver. its just a switch. optimus (imho) is best avoided
[19:15] <B0Rg666> im looking to walk away from windos
[19:15] <B0Rg666> windows
[19:15] <schoppenhauer> hello. I have a kyocera fs 1030d. i can install it, and it appears to be recognized. but even when trying to print a test page, i get an error "client-error-document-format-not-supported"
[19:15] <DragYourHalo> ActionParsnip: I've lookd all over google for help with this, an rpm or something and I haven't found anything at all. I just don't understand how apt-get says that libmysqlclient installs but there is nothing there at all.
[19:15] <SkeeterB> i have 2 gigs not 1gig i forgot that
[19:15] <ActionParsnip> blaircse: its a setting in bios. not in ubuntu so no there is no command
[19:15] <andycc> DragYourHalo: I'm no expert, but why not try finding libmysqlclient.so and pass it to ./configure using --with-mysql-lib= ?
[19:15] <v33> ActionParsnip: agreed on the avoiding part, however i already have a laptop that has it. lol so essentially i still have to use bumblebee
[19:15] <ActionParsnip> skeeterb: 2Gb ram is fine
[19:16] <ActionParsnip> dragyourhalo: google isnt very good here.
[19:16] <blaircse> ActionParsnip:   awesome! thanks :D
[19:17] <SkeeterB> the only thing that bothers me about linux is how some media producters (Adobe) has stopped support for Linux users
[19:17] <ActionParsnip> dragyourhalo: go to http://www.duckduckgo.com and search for: !ppa mysqltcl
[19:17] <ChogyDan> SkeeterB: you can still get flash on chrome
[19:18] <ActionParsnip> dragyourhalo: it will send the search to launchpad and search for the package. You will need to trawl the results to see if they support your release etc.
[19:20] <schoppenhauer> anyone?
[19:21] <ActionParsnip> schppenhauer: how did you install the printer?
[19:21] <ActionParsnip> schppenhauer: what is the output of: cat /etc/issue
[19:22] <schoppenhauer> ActionParsnip: Ubuntu 12.04.3 LTS \n \l
[19:22] <schoppenhauer> ActionParsnip: I used the usual UI-Method from XFCE4 (xubuntu)
[19:24] <SkeeterB> i don't trust google
[19:25] <bazhang> !ot | SkeeterB
[19:26] <ActionParsnip> schoppenhauer: try removing the printer from Ubuntu and powering it off and reboot. Try adding it from http://localhost:631
[19:27] <schoppenhauer> ActionParsnip: how can I activate localhost:631. it is disabled under ubuntu per default.
[19:28] <ActionParsnip> schoppenhauer: its active and available. Not disabled at all.
[19:28] <Lope> Hi I'm having problems hibernating. when I click Quit>Hibernate, the next time I boot my PC it is as if I just pressed "Shut Down" because it just does a fresh boot.
[19:28] <ActionParsnip> lope: does the system have a make and model
[19:28] <schoppenhauer> ActionParsnip: well, when trying to access it with firefox, I get an empty page
[19:29] <schoppenhauer> ActionParsnip: that was why I used the GUI-thingy in the first place.
[19:29] <Lope> Action: I've got a Laptop, Asus N53SV i7 16GB RAM my linux partition is 32GB (EXT4), my swap partition is 32GB (Linux Swap).
[19:29] <cjpcjp_> Would there be a reason why bash wouldn't startup on.. well, startup?
[19:30] <cjpcjp_> When I reboot, I'm not in bash anymore. Not sure why?
[19:30] <auronandace> Lope: 32gb swap seems rather excessive
[19:30] <Lope> auronandace: well I have 16GB RAM and I might upgrade to 32GB so I disagree.
[19:31] <bekks> For hibernation, thats needed.
[19:31] <schoppenhauer> ActionParsnip: the error_log sais "Error in the push function." and "A TLS fatal alert has been received." when trying to access it.
[19:32] <auronandace> Lope: wow, 32gb of ram seems huge to me, just out of curiosity what do you use it for?
[19:32] <Lope> I run VM's and also use ramdisks sometimes
[19:32] <Lope> I run servers and use my development PC for testing and developing stuff involving VM's
[19:34] <Lope> So far 16GB is working well, but I haven't been running more than 1 VM at a time usually. that can change.
[19:34] <ActionParsnip> aurondance: really? I work on multi VM servers with terabytes of RAM...
[19:34] <Lope> on average I have 12GB used.
[19:35] <Lope> at the moment its quite time consuming opening and closing all my programs each time I want to switch off my PC. so I'd like to get hibernation working.
[19:35] <ActionParsnip> lope: whybdid you not add the model to the inotial question?
[19:36] <ActionParsnip> lope: do you have the latest bios?
[19:37] <ActionParsnip> lope: are there any bugs reported?
[19:37] <Lope> I do have the latest BIOS yes.
[19:37] <andycc> lope: is GRUB2 configured correctly? https://wiki.debian.org/Grub#line-95
[19:37] <Lope> does GRUB affect the ability to hibernate?
[19:38] <X-User> is Brightside a good app?
[19:38] <jpds> Lope: I can run 4 KVM VMs on my i5/8GB Dell at a time.
[19:39]  * bekks can run even more than 4 vms on am i5/8GB at a time.
[19:39] <jpds> bekks: ...before things start feeling slow.
[19:39] <Lope> jpds: Yes it depends how much ram you give them and how much ram your host is using etc of course you can squeeze loads of VMs out of most PCs, but getting them running smoothly is another story.
[19:39] <bekks> jpds: Yes.
[19:40] <andycc> Lope: GRUB needs to pass your swap partition to the kernel at boot. On Ubuntu, it _should_ do that automatically.
[19:40] <jpds> Lope: Usually I give them 512/1G each, and things do feel smooth.
[19:40] <Lope> I've run loads of VMs as well. i wasn't implying I'm limited to 1. I only need one lately thats all I was saying. and my PC normally has 12GB ram used.
[19:40] <carael> how can I install ubuntu on my pc ??
[19:40] <jpds> !install | carael
[19:41] <schoppenhauer> does anybody have an idea?
[19:41] <Lope> andycc: well my system boots without any problems so I imagine my GRUB is fine then?
[19:41] <andycc> Lope: well, that's the problem, it _just boots_. It should resume.
[19:42] <Lope> andycc: so does resuming have different requirements regarding GRUB
[19:42] <andycc> Lope: take a look at the Archwiki section on GRUB configuration - https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Hibernate#Required_kernel_parameters
[19:43] <jpds> Lope: No.
[19:44] <jpds> Lope: Check /var/log/pm-suspend.log
[19:45] <funga> are there a lot of freelance elisp jobs out there - say - compared to php/msql/apache or python... what kind of work would you usually be doing in elisp? or would you mostly be configuring your editor so you can code in another language?
[19:45] <Sadodah> hello
[19:45] <funga> or compared to c#, .NET ... etc
[19:46] <Lope> andycc: I've just checked out /etc/default/grub and I see that my GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX=""
[19:46] <andycc> funga: wrong channel, try #programming.
[19:46] <Lope> so I will change it to add the resume option for my swap partition.
[19:46] <Sadodah> i have question
[19:46] <Lope> hopefully I won't break my ability to boot :)
[19:46] <funga> andycc: alrighty then thanks
[19:46] <jpds> Lope: I have the same and my laptop works fine with suspend/hibernate.
[19:46] <abaddon_> Hey, does anyone know the key combination to grab windows and move them about?
[19:47] <jpds> abaddon_: Alt, left click on window?
[19:47] <andycc> Lope: yeah, just booted up my Ubuntu system and it's the same... looks like it's not GRUB
[19:47] <Lope> jpds: you mean you don't have the resume option set in your GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX ?
[19:47] <jpds> Lope: I don't.
[19:47] <Lope> ah, I wonder why I can't hibernate then :/
[19:47] <jpds> Lope: That's why I told you to check the log to found out what the systme is actually complaining about rather than guessing.
[19:48] <Lope> oh sorry I missed that.
[19:48] <abaddon_> jpds, nope, not working?
[19:48] <jpds> Lope: /var/log/pm-suspend.log
[19:48] <wilee-nilee> abaddon_, alt to move with cursor
[19:49] <Lope> /usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/75modules hibernate hibernate: not applicable.
[19:49] <Lope> /usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/94cpufreq hibernate hibernate: success.
[19:49] <abaddon_> wilee-nilee,  not doing it ether?
[19:50] <Lope> oh actually there are a lot of diff lines
[19:50] <jpds> Lope: Find an error message or so.
[19:50] <wilee-nilee> abaddon_, What release and desktop?
[19:50] <andycc> abaddon_: what desktop environment are you using?
[19:50] <abaddon_> wilee-nilee,  Wait, sorry, I didn't hold left mouse
[19:50] <Lope> there are a few errors, none look too critical so far... /usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/99video: 22: /usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/99video: shopt: not found
[19:50] <jpds> Lope: That's fine.
[19:50] <abaddon_> wilee-nilee,  I assumed itd grab by default and id just drag
[19:51] <abaddon_> Thanks guys
[19:51] <Lope> is it safe to delete this log so I can try hibernate and resume again to reduce the clutter?
[19:51] <wilee-nilee> abaddon_ the header will left click and grab.
[19:51] <Lope> jpds: suspend works fine by the way. its just hibernate that has problems,.
[19:52] <abaddon_> wilee-nilee, Ahhh, it worked thx
[19:52] <jpds> Lope: How much RAM/swap do you have?
[19:52] <Lope> 16GB RAM 32GB swap
[19:52] <jpds> Lope: Interesting, using any special modules?
[19:53] <wilee-nilee> Lope, this a desktop? does the sleeo work?
[19:53] <Lope> hmm, not that I can think of I mean I have LVM running for a data partition, but my linux and swap partitions are separate to that.
[19:53] <wilee-nilee> sleep*
[19:53] <Lope> Laptop suspend works.
[19:53] <jpds> Lope: That's irrelevant, my swap sits in LVM.
[19:54] <wilee-nilee> Lope, I would use the suspend myself, hibernate takes a s long to work as a boot but thats just me.
[19:54] <Lope> I can try delete the log /var/log/pm-suspend.log and try again to see exactly whats up
[19:54] <jpds> Lope: Start here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingKernelSuspendHibernateResume
[19:54] <Lope> wilee-nilee: its more so that I don't have to open and close all my programs
[19:54] <dosas> I have a strange problem with my sound settings in ubuntu 12.04
[19:54] <usr13> Lope: What size is your swap partition?
[19:55] <jpds> usr13: 32GB.
[19:55] <Lope> 16GB RAM 32GB swap
[19:55] <wilee-nilee> Lope, suspend you would not it just eats battery time in small increments is all.
[19:55] <dosas> i can choose analog surround 5.1 for analog output
[19:55] <dosas> but i cannot choose it over spdif in the digital output tab
[19:55] <Lope> wilee-nilee: trying to save electricity though
[19:55] <Lope> :/
[19:55] <Lope> maybe its silly hehe
[19:56] <Lope> Laptop is plugged in so battery is not an issue.
[19:56] <dosas> and another strange thing is that the subwoofer for the analog sourround soudn is only active for one song
[19:56] <BluesKaj> dosas, install pavucontrol , also in alsamixer choose spdif if possible
[19:56] <wilee-nilee> Lope, Hehe, you can only go so OCD on that sort of thang. ;)
[19:57] <dosas> i have already isntalled pavucontrol and in alsamixer spdif is enabled 00
[19:57] <dosas> there is no level adjustement though
[19:58] <dosas> i cannot choose digital surround in pavucontrol
[19:59] <jpds> Lope: I would go through the debug page
[19:59] <Lope> cat /etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d/resume gives me the UUID of my swap partition.
[19:59] <Lope> jpds: doing it now, thanks
[19:59] <BluesKaj> dosas, there is no level ctrl , but there is an option if you use up/down arrow key to find the pcm out option
[19:59] <Lope> oh I found the cause!!!
[20:00] <BluesKaj> dosas, in the spdif ctrl
[20:00] <schoppenhauer> well, when I increase the loglevel to "debug", i get Unsupported format "application/octet-stream". but in /usr/share/cups/mime/mime.types, there is an entry application/octet-stream
[20:00] <Lope> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingKernelSuspendHibernateResume my home partition is encrypted and therefore so is my swap. Hibernation works with an encrypted swap, but resume fails.... lol.
[20:00] <jpds> Lope: Just reformat your swap, uncrypted.
[20:01] <Lope> jpds: I'd rather not.
[20:01] <Lope> They have a workaround where you choose a password for your swap, and enter it at bootup.
[20:01] <usr13> Lope: swap encrypted?  Never heard of that?  Didn't know you could.
[20:01] <Lope> usr13: See the link I pasted.
[20:03] <jpds> Lope: No, I don't see that working.
[20:03] <Lope> to encrypt your swap: sudo ecryptfs-setup-swap
[20:03] <wilee-nilee> Lope, If you are registered with freenode you might try ##linux as well.
[20:04] <Lope> another page about it: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedHome
[20:04] <Lope> okay thanks
[20:05] <usr13> Lope: sudo fdisk -l | pastebinit #Send us resulting URL.
[20:06] <dosas> solved it thanks
[20:06] <X-User> anybody know how to control volume in Radio Tray?
[20:06] <dosas> i think spdif only works in 12.10
[20:07] <BluesKaj> dosas, nope I've used since 8.10
[20:07] <dosas> okay but what's the trick
[20:08] <dosas> analog surround works fine
[20:08] <Lope> http://codepad.org/QrwfnFZB
[20:08] <SwashBuckla> It seems that my new install of Ubuntu 13.04 loads _no_ modules _whatsoever_
[20:08] <dosas> libasound2-plugins-extra
[20:08] <dosas> is what i foudn but i cannot install it
[20:09] <SwashBuckla> A quick inspection of lsmod shoes that no modules were loaded. This is a stark contrast to the state of my machine in livecd, which loads _all_ of the appropriate modules
[20:09] <BluesKaj> trick , make sure your pcm level is above 80%
[20:10] <dosas> i cannot choose surround for the digital output only stereo
[20:10] <mattwj2002> hi people
[20:10]  * mattwj2002 is currently installing ubuntu
[20:10] <BluesKaj> dosas, which player are you using
[20:11] <dosas> guayadeque
[20:11] <dosas> it's not the player
[20:11] <Lope> I found a guide to getting hibernation working with encrypted swap: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EnableHibernateWithEncryptedSwap
[20:11] <mattwj2002> I love vlc
[20:11] <dosas> me too
[20:11] <mattwj2002> :)
[20:11] <dosas> but not for music
[20:11] <mahi_> Hello, Can anyone tell me which application is alternative for Adobe Photoshop and Illustrator in Ubuntu?
[20:11] <dosas> inkscape
[20:11] <dosas> or gimp
[20:11] <mattwj2002> gimp
[20:12] <Anho> Could someone please help me with this? http://paste.ubuntu.com/6026348/ may be kind of complicated
[20:12] <mattwj2002> I like gimp but it sounds bad
[20:12] <mattwj2002> :)
[20:12] <compex> gimp is nice. Very powerful once you learn to use it
[20:12] <compex> You can always just run photoshop in wine
[20:12] <compex> it runs pretty well
[20:12] <X-User> where to get equalizer presets for Audacious?
[20:12] <mattwj2002> gimp in American English is a negative term for someone that is handicapped :)
[20:13] <BluesKaj> dosas, in pavucontrol , no spdif out ?
[20:13] <Anho> also dont know how get http://paste.ubuntu.com/ to NOT be only on one line
[20:13] <mattwj2002> a derrogatory term for someone that is disabled or has a medicial problem that results in physical impairment.
[20:13] <wilee-nilee> Anho, This is ubuntu support only.
[20:14] <mattwj2002> I am recreating my mythtv box :)
[20:14] <dosas> BluesKaj: no in pavu control i have analog output of every kind and stereo iec958
[20:14] <dosas> i tried already loading kernel moules snd-hda-intel  and all that stuff
[20:14] <BluesKaj> dosas , does the pcm option show up in alsamixer/
[20:15] <dosas> yes
[20:15] <dosas> it shows
[20:15] <Anho> yes I know problem is ubuntu in VirtualBox just u need to know about the firewall
[20:15] <dosas> it is cranked up to amx
[20:15] <BluesKaj> then it should show in pavuci=ontri=olk as well
[20:15] <BluesKaj> pavucontrol rather
[20:15] <SwashBuckla> Hi there -- It seems that my new install of Ubuntu 13.04 loads _no_ modules _whatsoever_. Can anyone diagnose this problem? `lsmod` shows nothing but the column headers. `lspci -nnn -k` shows that no modules loaded for the pci cards it sees.
[20:16] <maxflax> How do I fix so I don't need to be root for reading USB devices on my computer
[20:16] <mattwj2002> if I see the facetime app commercial again.... I am going to vomit
[20:17] <wilee-nilee> maxflax, usb devices? be specific, and if partitioned what type.
[20:17] <mattwj2002> does anyone else have a mythtv box?
[20:17] <maxflax> wilee-nilee,  Any Usb flash stick
[20:18] <reisio> mattwj2002: probably someone else
[20:18] <wilee-nilee> !ot | mattwj2002 keep the opinions to yourself
[20:18] <BluesKaj> SwashBuckla, install dkms then update, upgrade and dist-upgrade
[20:18] <wilee-nilee> maxflax, With what type of partitions?
[20:18] <jwtiyar> when i want to update system shows this http://tinyurl.com/mo4cwxa ,i dont know how to fix
[20:19] <maxflax> wilee-nilee,  Doesn't matter all usb sticks regardless partition type
[20:19] <SwashBuckla> BluesKaj: I can't do anything of the sort. I don't have any modules for my network interface devices
[20:19] <dosas> BluesKaj: should yes
[20:19] <Alaev> hi guys, how to I remove the quit and join message in xchat? [first time using it on ubuntu].
[20:20] <SwashBuckla> BluesKaj: right now I am in a livecd environment
[20:20] <bazhang> Alaev, right channel name
[20:20] <wilee-nilee> maxflax, That makes no sense a fat 32 would not need root how are you mounting them, in fstab or plugging? What is the OS?
[20:20] <maxflax> wilee-nilee, The one im trying to access now is fat32 thou
[20:20] <bazhang> Alaev, right click
[20:20] <BluesKaj> SwashBuckla, sounds like you have an incomplete install
[20:20] <maxflax> wilee-nilee,  plugging and running ubuntu 13.04
[20:20] <Alaev> bazhang,  and?
[20:20] <BluesKaj> dosas try a reboot
[20:21] <wilee-nilee> maxflax, Have you reformatted any in 13.04?
[20:21] <bazhang> Alaev, see the menu?
[20:21] <dosas> i already did several times
[20:21] <nutzz> hey guys, i'm a beginner in linux, i'm trying to change the value of $PS1 env. variable with this value "[\t \j] ", but it returns me  this error http://pastium.org/view/ae41a90581c4acb9f8293e88b08072d9
[20:21] <Alaev> bazhang, yep.
[20:21] <dosas> http://fransdejonge.com/2011/04/dolby-digital-5-1-over-spdif-with-pulseaudio/
[20:21] <dosas> already tried this
[20:21] <SwashBuckla> BluesKaj: this has happened 4 times now. I'll admit I'm using the same install media each time I retry though
[20:21] <maxflax> wilee-nilee, So I figured that I must have messed up the groups on my user or something.
[20:21] <dosas> but then then nothing worked anymore
[20:21] <SwashBuckla> BluesKaj: perhaps I can try again with a new install medium
[20:21] <bazhang> Alaev, settings> hide joins/parts?
[20:22] <Alaev> bazhang, i tryed via the advanced "QUIT" [removing the snippets]. didnt save my changes.
[20:22] <Anho> I know that it is a bit detailed but could someone please look at http://paste.ubuntu.com/6026348/ for me? The problem is with Ubuntu
[20:22] <wilee-nilee> maxflax, Do run in terminal in general with sudo -l to get no sudo access?
[20:22] <maxflax> wilee-nilee, Yes I have formatted stuff in 13.04
[20:22] <Alaev> bazhang, Done! thank you!
[20:22] <BluesKaj> SwashBuckla,well you know waht they say about trying something the same several times expecting a different result
[20:22] <SwashBuckla> BluesKaj: I tried different things within the install process
[20:23] <wilee-nilee> maxflax, What I wonder is if like some users you have been using su, or using a rooted terminal....etc or have run in rot?
[20:23] <SwashBuckla> BluesKaj: now it's time to try a different install image altogether
[20:23] <wilee-nilee> root*
[20:23] <SwashBuckla> BluesKaj: and if that doesn't work a different distribution
[20:23] <Alaev> bazhang, is there any way to push the join/quit log into new tab?
[20:24] <BluesKaj> SwashBuckla, ok good luck , perhaps a different image will be successful
[20:24] <bazhang> Alaev, not sure , perhaps try #xchat
[20:24] <mahi_> As I can see from the review of Gimp, It is similar to Photoshop......Is there any other App as alternative for Illustrator?
[20:24] <Anho> I know that it is a bit detailed but could someone please look at http://paste.ubuntu.com/6026348/ for me? The problem is with Ubuntu 12.04 LTS
[20:24] <maxflax> wilee-nilee, I use sudo all the time ofc, but for me to be able to read a inserted usb memory I need to gksudo thunar or nautlius
[20:24] <wilee-nilee> jwtiyar, pastebin sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get upgrade
[20:25] <Alaev> bazhang, Tnx. will give it a try now.
[20:25] <bazhang> !equivalents | mahi_
[20:25] <bazhang> mahi_, check that link
[20:25] <JacobGuy7800> hello?
[20:25] <mahi_> Thanks guys
[20:25] <wilee-nilee> maxflax, I'm not sure I have never had that happen. You mention permissions is all, can you elaborate on that in what you have done there.
[20:26] <JacobGuy7800> I wanted to ask you guys
[20:26] <wilee-nilee> JacobGuy7800, ask away the channel is busy
[20:27] <JacobGuy7800> the channel is busy so I should Not ask?
[20:27] <usr13> maxflax: pastebinit /etc/group  #Lets have a look.
[20:27] <wilee-nilee> JacobGuy7800, No just stae the issues. ;)
[20:27] <BluesKaj> dosas, this might work , open /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf with root permissions , thenadd this line at the bottom , options snd-hda-intel index=0 , save the file and reboot
[20:27] <wilee-nilee> state*
[20:27] <maxflax> wilee-nilee, I do alot of stuff, tinkering and such and wouldn't surprise me if I did something with a group. Is there a certain group I need to be in in order to read and write to a usb stick?
[20:28] <wilee-nilee> maxflax, Not sure, my assumption is just the regular user, not an area I fully up on, if you tinker be sure to document. ;)
[20:28] <JacobGuy7800> well I'm thinking a bout buying a chromebook and putting Ubuntu on it is it worth it or should I spend more on a win 8 licence
[20:29] <maxflax> wilee-nilee, http://pastebin.com/3xxaaUg0
[20:29] <bazhang> JacobGuy7800, try #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:29] <wilee-nilee> JacobGuy7800, That has a specialized kernel that would not be supported.
[20:29] <JacobGuy7800> Ok.
[20:29] <usr13> maxflax: netdev
[20:29] <JacobGuy7800> Then I have a mother question
[20:29] <Anho> I know that it is a bit detailed but could someone please look at http://paste.ubuntu.com/6026348/ for me? The problem is with Ubuntu 12.04 LTS
[20:30] <maxflax> usr13,  then it might be it.. im not in that group
[20:30] <wilee-nilee> maxflax, I'm  not up on al of that basically, not sure I can help beyond getting this far. ;)
[20:30] <JacobGuy7800> if i share a drive via the properties panel in win 7 over a network, will it show up in Ubuntu?
[20:30] <dosas> BluesKaj: no that didn't do it
[20:31] <dosas> in the forums is always talk about the a52
[20:31] <dosas> which should be enabled in asound.conf
[20:31] <BluesKaj> dosas, did you create that /etc/asound.conf file as suggested in the tutorial you posted ?
[20:31] <wilee-nilee> JacobGuy7800, I would not bother with that chrombook just to save money, get a computer that will run what you want that has good support.
[20:32] <dosas> yes i did but then i started having problems getting sound
[20:32] <dosas> but do i have to add this to existing asound.conf or completely new
[20:32] <usr13> maxflax: sudo usemod -a -G netdev max
[20:32] <wilee-nilee> JacobGuy7800, YOu get what you pay for, don;t forget.
[20:32] <BluesKaj> dump it , it's not meant for ubuntu anyway, dosas
[20:32] <JacobGuy7800> I had the question specific to Ubuntu though
[20:32] <ahmed_> Hello friends ..how can i to open facebook on ubuntu?  it's censorship in my country
[20:32] <maxflax> usr13,  Jupp I known ;)
[20:33] <wilee-nilee> ahmed_, we can't help you there.
[20:33] <ahmed_> why?
[20:33] <usr13> maxflax: reboot
[20:33] <JacobGuy7800> I wanted to network my desktop Pc with Ubuntu and I share my drive via the properties panel in win. will it show up in raring?
[20:33] <BluesKaj> ahmed_, you'll have to use a vpn like any other OS
[20:35] <usr13> maxflax: Or log out and back in again and restart udev
[20:35] <JacobGuy7800> hello?
[20:36] <maxflax> usr13, googling a way to avoid logging out :)
[20:36] <odyssey4me> I need to set my dns server temporarily while I resetup a server's networking. For some reason it's not working. Any thoughts on how I can do this.
[20:36] <wilee-nilee> JacobGuy7800, You are asking a cross OS question.
[20:36] <JacobGuy7800> yes.
[20:36] <wilee-nilee> no supported
[20:36] <wilee-nilee> not*
[20:36] <really> hey wilee-nilee :)
[20:36] <JacobGuy7800> I'm asking if it is compatible with UBUNTU RARING
[20:36] <usr13> maxflax: Wait, I'm wrong, netdev is for network manager.
[20:36] <DoctorD90> !help
[20:37] <DoctorD90> !patience DoctorD90
[20:37] <wilee-nilee> JacobGuy7800, Don't shout and have some patience, use samba.
[20:37] <JacobGuy7800> sorry than
[20:37] <DoctorD90> !help DoctorD90
[20:37] <usr13> maxflax: It's plugdev and you are already member of that one.  (wont hurt to be a member of netdev as well though....)
[20:37] <JacobGuy7800> I gues the reason #ubuntu is so awesome is case everyone's nice
[20:38] <JacobGuy7800> sorry
[20:38] <bazhang> JacobGuy7800, using samba?
[20:38] <JacobGuy7800> uhmmm
[20:38] <BluesKaj> DoctorD90, just ask your question
[20:38] <dosas> !patience
[20:38] <JacobGuy7800> I dunno
[20:38] <really> is it true that Ubuntu released are not even tested before it is released to the public? security concerns?
[20:38] <bazhang> JacobGuy7800, network file sharing/ samba, or what
[20:38] <usr13> maxflax: So how are you mounting the usb devices?  Automount?
[20:38] <Antar> Hi evrbdy
[20:38] <Anho> I know that it is probably quite inconvenient to read all this but could someone please look at http://paste.ubuntu.com/6026348/ for me? The problem is with Ubuntu 12.04 LTS
[20:38] <OerHeks> really, no.
[20:39] <Anho> please :)
[20:39] <maxflax> usr13, Jepp.. automount ubuntu style
[20:39] <JacobGuy7800> no, just using the properties panel in windows 7
[20:39] <bazhang> JacobGuy7800, doubtful
[20:39] <Antar> can i export an application from a ubuntu iso file ?
[20:39] <dosas> Anho: you sure TOR is anonymous
[20:39] <usr13> maxflax: mount | pastebinit
[20:39] <usr13> maxflax: Show us....
[20:39] <JacobGuy7800> rite click on a drive select properties and share it
[20:39] <JacobGuy7800> that's what i do
[20:39] <BluesKaj> really, nor=t true there are several stages/phases of testing by brave volunteers who sacrifice their time for free to test alpha abd beta releases
[20:39] <dosas> Anho: why don't you use the livecd of TOR
[20:40] <bazhang> JacobGuy7800, on the windows end? or the ubuntu side
[20:40] <Anho> yes TOR is running and says connected
[20:40] <dosas> https://tails.boum.org/
[20:40] <Anho> on win7
[20:40] <JacobGuy7800> on the windows end
[20:40] <Antar> any one with me ?
[20:40] <JacobGuy7800> I share a disk on my windows Pc
[20:40] <OerHeks> Anho sounds like a Damm small linux issue
[20:41] <bazhang> JacobGuy7800, no, you'd need to configure it on ubuntu as well
[20:41] <really> Anho, you can use TAILS
[20:41] <JacobGuy7800> there's two computers...
[20:41] <Anho> hmm
[20:41] <JacobGuy7800> the drive is in one
[20:41] <bazhang> JacobGuy7800, yes. so configure both
[20:41] <really> Anho, or you can use the Tor browser or the new PirateBay Tor browser
[20:42] <xatr0z> well he wants a secure vm, so in that case i would suggest tails as well instead of tor client
[20:42] <JacobGuy7800> okay. I'll test it when I get home
[20:42] <xatr0z> just make sure the host is is secure and minimal setup
[20:42] <Alaev> quick one, did any one use digital ocean as cloud server? are they good?
[20:42] <bazhang> Alaev, thats not on topic here
[20:42] <bazhang> Alaev, try #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:42] <Antar> any bdy here ?
[20:43] <really> i think the i2p network is more secure, anonymous and more decentralized than Tor, but Tor is easier to use with regular webpages
[20:43] <mnewton> I have a a script when i need to do sudo make install, after that all the stuff in my script gets put in the password - how do i prevent that?
[20:43] <Alaev> bazhang, tnx
[20:43] <xatr0z> Antar: probably, would know how. But cant you just download the specific application?
[20:43] <wilee-nilee> Antar, get more ram what is the chip>?
[20:43] <maxflax> usr13,  http://pastebin.com/M0EStkKS
[20:43] <Antar> i havent a good internet connection
[20:43] <OerHeks> mnewton, why sudo + make install ?
[20:44] <Antar> wilee-nilee Intel
[20:44] <guest792> hi
[20:44] <mnewton> OerHeks: Install vim from source want to install on whole system
[20:44] <Antar> Dell Latitude D610 famous
[20:44] <reisio> hi guest792
[20:45] <wilee-nilee> Antar, you will get no real help here without specific details to be honest.
[20:45] <usr13> maxflax: ls -l /media/max/PENDRIVE |pastebinit
[20:45] <Antar> wilee-nilee ok
[20:45] <MonkeyDust> Antar  repeat your question every 10-15 minutes, until someone enters who can help
[20:45] <dosas> Antar: what is your question
[20:46] <OerHeks> mnewton, i would use checkinstall > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CheckInstall
[20:46] <jwtiyar> wilee-nilee, sorryy , http://paste.ubuntu.com/6026440/
[20:46] <wilee-nilee> dosas, YOU have been on long enough to look for that info.
[20:46] <Antar> i wounder if can i export an application from a ubuntu iso file ?
[20:46] <dosas> wilee-nilee: to lazy to scroll back
[20:47] <MonkeyDust> Antar  you mean extract?
[20:47] <Antar> export it then import to my ubuntu
[20:47] <maxflax> usr13, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6026443/
[20:47] <mnewton> OerHeks: wont the sudo aptitude install checksinstall break the script
[20:47] <mnewton> when the user enters the password for sudo?
[20:48] <wilee-nilee> dosas, Then expect to be reminded of this it is busy here, to busy to be stupid.
[20:48] <maxflax> usr13,  Had to sudo to be able to list it thou :)
[20:48] <Anho> please allow me to link the guide https://docs.google.com/document/d/1c6FqP33qjp67-INWv1cjMd_eXrnS25DS-mcaVh2a8JY/edit?usp=sharing         step 9-10 & 16 is where something could have gone wrong b/c I am just following directions and dont know linux well enough to get what it is doing.  also guide was written almost 9 months ago
[20:48] <OerHeks> mnewton, nope, not to my knowledge
[20:49] <reisio> Anho: that your document?
[20:49] <xatr0z> Antar: you probably could just mount it by rightclicking the iso and open with -> disk image mounter
[20:49] <Antar> MonkeyDust understand me ?
[20:49] <usr13> maxflax: ls -ld /media/max/pendrive
[20:49] <xatr0z> Antar: then you should be able to access the contents, maybe you can find a ubuntu or dists directory somewhere
[20:50] <Anho> from a poster on onion site
[20:50] <Antar> xatr0z i know but where can i found my application on milions of files :) ?
[20:50] <xatr0z> im not sure if that really is the case but i suspect it just looks like a normal mirror, which means you can browse it and install teh program you want
[20:50] <xatr0z> which application?
[20:50] <Anho> but that is my google account yes
[20:50] <wilee-nilee> jwtiyar, Your first mini url had no real info, you have a gpg error in this update, what is the actual problem will it not install the updates, you would need a dist-upgrade for the kernels run.
[20:51] <maxflax> usr13, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6026450/
[20:51] <Antar> xatr0z lets say Gimp =
[20:51] <reisio> Anho: you might mention to him that the internet supports this format called HTML :p
[20:52] <Antar> xatr0z ....
[20:52] <Antar> MonkeyDust ....
[20:52] <Anho> haha
[20:53] <wilee-nilee> jwtiyar, Can you pastebin what you get with his command. grep -vr "^#" /etc/apt/sources.list{,.d/}
[20:54] <xatr0z> Antar: /ubuntu/pool/main/g/gimp/
[20:54] <Antar> xatr0z .... Greate
[20:54] <Antar> xatr0z .... Lets Search
[20:54] <Anho> reisio: so yes I have done EVERYTHING it said and am at the end
[20:54] <usr13> maxflax:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/6026443/ is not what I wanted to see, (I wanted to see the error).  But I see that /media/max/pedrive is drwx------ when it should be drwxr-xr-x and am not sure why.
[20:54] <jwtiyar> wilee-nilee, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6026464/
[20:54] <Antar> xatr0z what is the Extention ?
[20:55] <reisio> Anho: neat
[20:55] <usr13> maxflax: pastebinit /etc/fstab
[20:55] <xatr0z> Antar: you need to have a .deb file for your setup
[20:55] <Antar> xatr0z soooo
[20:55] <Anho> when I enter "ssh -N -L 9150:10.0.2.2:9150 root@10.0.3.1" it says, "ssh: connect to host 10.0.3.1 port 22: Network is unreachable".  Any ideas why? Also, I keep getting a pop-up saying, "Wired Network Disconnected - you are now offline".
[20:55] <xatr0z> amd64 is for 64bit, i386 for 32bit
[20:56] <usr13> maxflax: chmod 755 /media/max/pendrive  #Should fix it, but am wondering why it is the way it is now.
[20:56] <maxflax> usr13, the error message is just saying access denied
[20:56] <jwtiyar> wilee-nilee, i did update from terminal with no problem just mentioned that some packages can not be install with out authentication so i said install it without auth.
[20:56] <xatr0z> Antar: you can find out which one you have by opening an terminal and typing uname -a
[20:56] <xatr0z> and probably as well in the about this computer screen
[20:57] <Antar> xatr0z Yeah exactly thx
[20:57] <watt_> #Rossw.net/otherpower
[20:57] <Antar> xatr0z there is main
[20:57] <wilee-nilee> jwtiyar, I would be running sudo apt-get dist-upgrade everytime thats what I do, and make sure you are not doing partital upgrades is al. And check if you really need all those PPA's they are not technically supported here is all.
[20:57] <maxflax> usr13,  chmod 755 will work even after removing and insering again?
[20:57] <Antar> xatr0z on the pool dir
[20:58] <jwtiyar> wilee-nilee, i just like some ppa's so i will install it thats problem made problem .
[20:58] <usr13> maxflax: pastebinit /etc/fstab   #Send URL
[20:58] <Anho> for anyone who missed the link to the guide https://docs.google.com/document/d/1c6FqP33qjp67-INWv1cjMd_eXrnS25DS-mcaVh2a8JY/edit?usp=sharing         step 9-10 & 16 is where something could have gone wrong b/c I am just following directions and dont know linux well enough to get what it is doing.  also guide was written almost 9 months ago
[20:58] <wilee-nilee> jwtiyar, You do have a gpg error I would fix, U can't tell what it is though.
[20:58] <wilee-nilee> I*
[20:59] <reisio> Anho: you experiencing some problem?
[20:59] <Anho> 2nd to last step
[20:59] <jwtiyar> wilee-nilee, if u need any more info i will
[20:59] <Anho> when I enter "ssh -N -L 9150:10.0.2.2:9150 root@10.0.3.1" it says, "ssh: connect to host 10.0.3.1 port 22: Network is unreachable".  Any ideas why? Also, I keep getting a pop-up saying, "Wired Network Disconnected - you are now offline".
[20:59] <maxflax> usr13, solved it.. did chmod 755 on my /media/max and now it works
[21:00] <reisio> Anho: what is that step meant to accomplish?
[21:00] <usr13> maxflax: Okey dokey
[21:00] <maxflax> usr13,  thanks for all the help :)
[21:00] <usr13> maxflax: Not sure how it got that way tho ...
[21:00] <wilee-nilee> jwtiyar, Try this tehn run a update agian to see if the error shows.  sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys 8D8847D52F4AAA66
[21:01] <jwtiyar> wilee-nilee, ok will see
[21:01] <Anho> reisio: "Now you have told your Ubuntu machine to join the same network that your Firewall is on. Now we can establish a tunnel for TOR data to flow from our Ubuntu machine, through the Firewall, into your Windows guest machine. We need to establish two such tunnels."
[21:02] <Anho> "The first tunnel for port 9050 data, and the second tunnel for port 8118 data. When these two tunnels are set up, it will be possible for you to use your Ubuntu machine to access any website using TOR."
[21:02] <jwtiyar> wilee-nilee, problem gone
[21:02] <maxflax> usr13,  I think that I might have created that folder with root or something - Could have been that it mounted to a folder in my homefolder and I didn't like that..
[21:02] <reisio> Anho: windows guest machine?...
[21:02] <maxflax> usr13,  So I created that path instead-
[21:03] <wilee-nilee> jwtiyar, Cool, enjoy, I would just use dist-upgrade in general, and make sure you don't do any partial upgrades.
[21:03] <jwtiyar> wilee-nilee, what will happen if i did sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[21:03] <jwtiyar>  ?
[21:03] <Anho> guide says 9050 but TOR recently changed to 9150 so I use that
[21:03] <wilee-nilee> !dist-upgrade
[21:03] <jwtiyar> wilee-nilee, what u mean by partial updates?
[21:03] <Anho> yes Win7
[21:03] <BlitzHere> !upgrade
[21:04] <wilee-nilee> jwtiyar, Partial updates is what you see when not all dependencies are available yet, it can brick you easily.
[21:05] <jwtiyar> wilee-nilee, i did fresh install of 13.04 before 4 months the partial updates windows every time shows when i want to update
[21:06] <wilee-nilee> jwtiyar, Well, you did not know what that means and have a ton of PPA's, I'm not surprised, I suspect you have run those partials right?
[21:06] <Anho> reisio: using Windows 7
[21:07] <jwtiyar> wilee-nilee, LOL yes all ppa's worked when i install them
[21:07] <reisio> Anho: can you ping -c 3 www.yahoo.com ? are the IP's used correct?
[21:07] <wilee-nilee> jwtiyar, I think you may not understand the definition of partial, a kernel being held is not a partial in the context I'm using, but a partial when you run a dist-upgrade, asically missing packages in a app.
[21:07] <wilee-nilee> basically*
[21:08] <jwtiyar> wilee-nilee, so its not good idea to install ppa's ?
[21:09] <wilee-nilee> jwtiyar, Takes a little while to fully understand what and what not to do.....etc, I would just be sure to be backed up and even clonede on know2n working setups for easy of travel basically.
[21:09] <jwtiyar> wilee-nilee,  ok thank you very much
[21:09] <agora> do you guys provide help with ubuntu based distros like mint?
[21:10] <wilee-nilee> jwtiyar, I would only use a PPA as a last resort, they are not supported here technically, and can cause problems at times.
[21:10] <Anho> reisio: "ping -c 3 www.yahoo.com" yields "ping: unknown host www.yahoo.com"
[21:10] <wilee-nilee> agora, Sorry no, they have a channel.
[21:10] <wilee-nilee> !mint
[21:11] <agora> wilee-nilee dang, ok thanks
[21:11] <wilee-nilee> agora, Sorry, you might consider ubuntu mint is just ubuntu with a few easy plug and play options and I believe way less solid support.
[21:13] <Elico> anyone have experience with KVM on ubuntu
[21:13] <reisio> Elico: probably some ones have
[21:13] <Elico> here...
[21:13] <reisio> probably some ones here
[21:13] <xatr0z> just ask your question, maybe someones knows the answer
[21:14] <Elico> ok
[21:14] <Elico> thank xatr0z
[21:14] <Elico> I want to install the basic OS on one SSD drive and the VMs on another storage..
[21:14] <Elico> like a raid5..
[21:15] <reisio> mmhmmm
[21:15] <Elico> I dont want just the answer but more I want to hear about it from someone that have done this before...
[21:17] <cstewart> I have used Hardware KVM and synergy...what kind of KVM are you planning on using
[21:17] <ihre> kernel virtualisation method I presume?
[21:18] <Elico> cstewart: Windows, linux and BSD..
[21:18] <wilee-nilee> Elico, cstewart for this discussion you might take it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:18] <Elico> wilee-nilee: in couple secs..
[21:18] <wilee-nilee> or as pm
[21:18] <usr13> Anho: What is in your /etc/resolv.conf  file? (nameserver)
[21:20] <Elico> burn the ISO on the DOK is by dd if=.. etc anyone remember it?
[21:22] <violinappren> Elico: is that a usb stick or a blank cd/dvd?
[21:22] <Elico> usb stick..
[21:22] <Elico> from ISO to usb DOK..
[21:23] <violinappren> Elico: then better use unetbootin instead of dd to lessen the risk of accidentally damaging another disk
[21:23] <violinappren> !unetbootin
[21:23] <Elico> who is afraid of damagin the disk??
[21:24] <Anho> usr13: # Dynamic resolv.conf(5) file for glibc resolver(3) generated by resolvconf(8)       # DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE BY HAND - - YOUR CHANGES WILL BE OVERWRITTEN
[21:24] <violinappren> Elico: im talking in general
[21:24] <reisio> Elico: dd can overwrite partitions and filesystems, is all
[21:24] <reisio> if you give it the "wrong" command
[21:25] <chiques> Will Ubuntu 10.04.4 LTS still have security updates available?
[21:25] <Elico> OK so just know what drive you are working with...
[21:25] <wilee-nilee> chiques, server is all that is supprted
[21:25] <wilee-nilee> no on the desktop
[21:25] <Elico> "sudo dd if=xyz.iso bs=4096 of=/dev/sdb"
[21:25] <Elico> this is why sudo is there..
[21:26] <reisio> Elico: right, don't mess up the of= bit
[21:26] <Elico> nice!!
[21:26] <chiques> wilee-nilee, ok, thanks
[21:26] <wilee-nilee> chiques, NO problem, that is good info to know. ;)
[21:27] <Elico> this is what gedit and geany is there for.. to pre write the command..
[21:27] <reisio> Elico: eh...
[21:27] <WinstonSmith> :O
[21:27] <reisio> Elico: if you do it in a terminal, tab completion will keep you safer
[21:27] <WinstonSmith> exactly
[21:27] <reisio> what I do, when being ultra paranoid, is to run cfdisk /dev/foo
[21:27] <reisio> and observe the attributes of the device
[21:27] <reisio> then I know it's the right device
[21:27] <reisio> press up, leave the /dev/foo and replace the 'cfdisk'
[21:28] <violinappren> and then write the command on a paper clip...
[21:28] <reisio> mmm
[21:29] <Elico> reisio: thanks.
[21:30] <visualise> meow
[21:30] <visualise> wrong, wrong chan! visualise!
[21:30]  * visualise spanks visualise
[21:30] <chiques> wilee-nilee, I believe the server version would be ubuntu-10.04.4-server-i386.iso for my 32 bit system
[21:31] <bekks> chiques: You should use 12.04 nowadays
[21:31] <usr13> Anho: If that is all that is in your /etc/resolv.conf file, that would explain why you can not resolve domain names.
[21:31] <wilee-nilee> chiques, okay, you have checked the support time ending? NOt sure your point is all. ;)
[21:31] <Anho> oh?
[21:32] <usr13> Anho: host av.com
[21:32] <chiques> bekks, my system sucks in performance with anything newer than 10.04
[21:32] <chiques> bekks, it's an old faithful box
[21:33] <usr13> Anho: edit /etc/resolv.conf and add line:  nameserver 8.8.8.8    And try again.
[21:33] <Anho> after both comments?
[21:35] <Anho> usr13: it is read-only
[21:36] <bekks> Anho: gksu gedit ...
[21:36] <usr13> Anho: gksudo gedit /etc/resolv.conf
[21:37] <usr13> Anho: Yea, on a line by itself,  nameserver 8.8.8.8
[21:42] <Anho> usr13 ok we r closer lol, umm
[21:43] <Obi1Kenobe> i have ubuntu11.04  and downloaded ubuntu12.04 haow can i upgraded and keep my files ?
[21:43] <bekks> Obi1Kenobe: Create a full backup of all your files, and reinstall.
[21:43] <Obi1Kenobe> beks any other way?
[21:43] <k1l_> !upgrade | Obi1Kenobe
[21:43] <fommil> hi all… I tried using the ubuntu cross compiler for gnueabihf but the binaries didn't work on my RPi  any ideas what could have been wrong? Am I using the right cross compiler?
[21:44] <bekks> Obi1Kenobe: No other way tjan backing up your data. Otherwise, it is not worth to be kept.
[21:45] <Anho> "ssh -N -L 9150:10.0.2.2:9150 root@10.0.3.1"  works fine now but on the next terminal  "ssh -N -L 8118:10.0.2.2:8118 root@10.0.3.1" it says, "ssh: connect to host 10.0.3.1 port 22: Network is unreachable"
[21:45] <Anho> usr13
[21:45] <Obi1Kenobe> I have dual booth windows 7  and ubuntu Naty i don`t want delete anyting i have 85 Gig of documents
[21:46] <bekks> Obi1Kenobe: Then backup your entire system before reinstalling Ubuntu.
[21:46] <k1l_> Obi1Kenobe: did you acutally read what the bot said?
[21:46] <violinappren>   Anho: ping the host? (if its pingable, anyway)
[21:46] <usr13> Anho: ifconfig  |pastebinit
[21:46] <k1l_> Obi1Kenobe: and for 11.04 (its out of support for some time now) you need that too:
[21:47] <k1l_> !eol | Obi1Kenobe
[21:47] <Obi1Kenobe> i did but my upgrade manage don`t have the optin to upgrade  don`t know why i try using it
[21:47] <bekks> Anho: Are you using vbox vms? The IP addresses look pretty familiar :)
[21:47] <usr13> Anho: What is your IP address?
[21:48] <Anho> Oracle VM VirtualBox
[21:48] <orianny_machado> malditos
[21:48] <k1l_> Obi1Kenobe: please read the latest message from the bot addressed to you
[21:48] <orianny_machado> hi
[21:48] <bekks> Anho: So you are ssh'ing from your host into one vm (which uses NAT) and then, from that vm trying to ssh into a second vm (which uses NAT,too)?
[21:48] <bekks> Anho: If so, thats not possible using your setup.
[21:49] <Anho> pastebin not installed
[21:49] <Anho> no umm
[21:50] <orianny_machado> perros
[21:50] <orianny_machado> malditos
[21:50] <Anho> firewall (Damn Small Linux) Adapter 1 NAT, Adapter 2 Internal Network
[21:51] <k1l_> orianny_machado: stop that nonsense
[21:51] <Anho> Ubuntu Adapter 1 Internal Network
[21:51] <chiques> k1l_, ban him!!!!
[21:51] <Anho> bekks usr13
[21:51] <usr13> Anho: I think bekks has explained your issue.
[21:52] <bekks> Anho: As I said, thats not possible in your setup.
[21:52] <arooni-mobile__> how do i share my mobile broadband connection (connected via usb stick) over wifi?  ubuntu 13.04
[21:53] <bekks> Anho: VM2 does not have access to VM1 using NAT, because it isnt able to connect to the NAT address of VM1.
[21:53] <arooni-mobile__> how do i share my mobile broadband connection (connected via usb stick) over wifi?  ubuntu 13.04
[21:54] <OerHeks> !ics | arooni-mobile__
[21:54] <violinappren> arooni-mobile__: i dont recall any maintained GUI apps for doing that, but you can do it using dnsmasq + hostapd
[21:54] <Anho> how would I fix it? the guide used to work flawlessly the ppl on HackBB claim
[21:55] <arooni-mobile__> violinappren, have a guide or something for thaqt
[21:56] <reisio> Anho: most things work flawlessly at a single point in time :)
[21:57] <bekks> Anho: Then ask those people to help you - I just can tell you that it isnt technically possible using your setup-
[21:57] <Anho> how would you fix it?
[21:58] <bekks> Anho: I'd use a complete different setup and throw away that guide :)
[21:58] <Anho> lol
[21:59] <Anho> You would still use a vm right?
[22:00] <trixiepat> i want to stick my tongue into gamerkitten''s asshole
[22:00] <trixiepat> and run my tongue around in circles
[22:00] <trixiepat> putting it in very deep
[22:00] <violinappren> arooni-mobile__: it's not that hard if you understand some networking basics, configure hostapd (see the man page) to act as a wireless access point on your wireless interface (with a fixed IP address), configure dnsmasq to listen on that interface for DHCP and DNS requests, configure your usb modem to automatically connect (you can use the network manager nm-tool and nm-cli for that) .. and configure IP masquerading/forwarding with ufw
[22:01] <iampoz> I am having some problems with updates
[22:01] <wilee-nilee> !details > iampoz
[22:01] <bekks> Anho: Actually no. I'd use a dedicated computer running the firewall.
[22:01] <violinappren> arooni-mobile__: you can find plenty of guides for each one of those steps, the trick is getting them all to work together..
[22:01] <iampoz> I am getting there.
[22:02] <Anho> Yeah I dont have the resources to do that :/
[22:02] <violinappren> arooni-mobile__: i have done that but on a fedora box, the networking stuff is somewhat different
[22:02] <wilee-nilee> iampoz, Announcing to the channel helps no one, just state the problems. ;)
[22:02] <sabboo> heh
[22:03] <bekks> Anho: Then I'd use a single vm having one host-only adapter, and one NAT. Host-only for "internal LAN <-> firewall" and NAT for "firewall <-> internet"
[22:03] <bekks> Anho: You dont even need more. :)
[22:04] <iampoz> When I update my computer with all or individually with linux-image-3.5.0-40 and/or nividia-319 and/or nvidia-304. My computer will not boot
[22:04] <iampoz> it fails to load lightdm
[22:05] <violinappren> arooni-mobile__: if you are not feeling so hack-happy, tplink makes tiny routers/access points that does exactly that, it can share 3g or a LAN connection through wifi
[22:06] <Anho> bekks would that be as secure as having a 2nd vm being the firewall? just from a people-are-trying-to-infiltrate-your-system-perspective
[22:07] <wilee-nilee> iampoz, Can you get to the dektop at all on any of the kernels, if so rerun the lightdm with. sudo service lightdm restart
[22:07] <wilee-nilee> iampoz, Are you sure you should be using lightdm?
[22:07] <Anonynimity> hello. I'm wondering if someone might have an easy way to port ubuntu phone to the huawei fusion 2. any help would be greatly appreciated.
[22:07] <wilee-nilee> !touch | Anonynimity
[22:07] <popey> Anonynimity: you probably want #ubuntu-touch
[22:07] <sabboo> if I install like "fvwm" right out of software center, how do I switch between desktops?
[22:08] <Anonynimity> my fusion 2 is running android 4.0.3 (ice cream sandwich)
[22:08] <reisio> sabboo: #fvwm
[22:09] <Anonynimity> thx willee-nilee
[22:09] <violinappren> sabboo: you should find an option in the display manager (lightdm in ubuntu default packages)
[22:10] <iampoz> wilee-nilee, not sure... right now I have unity loaded (i restored to a previous image that I had) and did all of the updates aside from the ones that mess up my computer
[22:10] <iampoz> why wouldnt I use lightdm?
[22:11] <wilee-nilee> iampoz, here is a link that includes amd/intel hybrid graphics info if needed. http://askubuntu.com/questions/139486/lightdm-wont-start-unity-automatically
[22:11] <reisio> iampoz: if you were using another DE, for example
[22:12] <wilee-nilee> yep
[22:12] <Anho> bekks would that be as secure as having a 2nd vm being the firewall? just from a people-are-trying-to-infiltrate-your-system-perspective
[22:13] <wilee-nilee> iampoz, I really like that your imaging, that gets a big gold star. ;)
[22:13] <iampoz> :D
[22:14] <iampoz> I dont think that link is going to help me
[22:14] <GH0> I seem to be having an issue with apt-get and some file, that causes apt-get to not want to download any new packages. I also have another issue, but I think I can fix that after I fix this apt-get issue. Issue: http://pastebin.com/0RMS0FEr
[22:15] <iampoz> I am starting to think that I just wont be able to update my computer anymore
[22:16] <wilee-nilee> iampoz, I think you need to share more info like the graphic card/card's etc, it's hard to help without details is all.
[22:17] <iampoz> yeah that makes sense...
[22:17] <wilee-nilee> GH0, Packages have to be in the repo called to be downloaded.
[22:18] <wilee-nilee> or the release supported
[22:18] <GH0> wilee-nilee, I believe debsums is supported.
[22:18] <iampoz> but I think I need to submit a bug some place
[22:18] <iampoz> not sure where
[22:18] <GH0> The issue is the last two lines of the pastebin file.
[22:18] <GH0> pkg: unrecoverable fatal error, aborting:
[22:18] <GH0>  files list file for package 'linux-headers-generic' is missing final newline
[22:18] <xatr0z> the file is corrupted
[22:18] <wilee-nilee> !bugs | iampoz
[22:18] <GH0> I am not sure where that is ocated.
[22:19] <GH0> Rather, where the newline is missing.
[22:19] <xatr0z> is the drive full? this happened after an upgrade?
[22:19] <wilee-nilee> !enter | gholder
[22:19] <xatr0z> it just means the file is broken, could be due to a lot of things
[22:19] <wilee-nilee> GH0, bots message for you
[22:19] <GH0> xatr0z, me? If it is, I am going to be pissed. This is a brand new SSD and a new install.
[22:19] <wilee-nilee> gholder, Sorry bro.
[22:19] <User_Sherloc> Hello everyone.
[22:19] <GH0> Well, is there any way to replace or correct the file? Because I can't do anything at this point.
[22:20] <xatr0z> the file needs to be reinstalled, so remove and then reinstall again with apt-get purge and apt-get install
[22:20] <OerHeks> GH0, hardware breaks within 2 weeks, or after 5 years these days
[22:20] <GH0> OerHeks, Yeah, well, I am two hours away from the hardware, that is the problem.
[22:20] <xatr0z> but this corrupted file are the kernel header files, and i dont know if its possible to just remove that
[22:20] <GH0> That is why I would be pissed.
[22:21] <wilee-nilee> GH0, No one cares for your emotions, keep them to yourself, and be professional here if you can. ;)
[22:21] <TheUser> Hi
[22:21] <reisio> hi TheUser
[22:21] <User_Sherloc> Hello TheUser
[22:21] <GH0> Well, if I attempt to purge the linux-headers-generic I get the following: http://pastebin.com/zqZ1mxYL
[22:22] <michael1> I am trying to set per user mime types
[22:22] <TheUser> Is there a easy and quick way to make LXDE look Lubuntu "pretty" on Ubuntu
[22:22] <xatr0z> ahh same issue
[22:22] <wilee-nilee> TheUser, define pretty.
[22:22] <xatr0z> maybe apt-get autoremove or apt-get autoclean will do any good
[22:22] <reisio> TheUser: install lubuntu-desktop?
[22:22] <reisio> TheUser: or even just some of the packages it installs
[22:23] <michael1> when I edit ~/.local/share/applications and then run update-mime-database i get Directory '/home/user/.local/share/applications/packages' does not exist!
[22:23] <xatr0z> GH0: otherwise you would need to remove the header files or package (wouldnt know which) manually and apt-get install -f
[22:24] <xatr0z> GH0: but again not sure if its any different with kernel headers, with normal packages it should work however
[22:24] <GH0> http://pastebin.com/fcjSpdS9 Yeah, was going to say autoremove and autoclean didn't do it.
[22:25] <xatr0z> GH0: hmm, it says 'file list file', maybe its just /var/lib/dpkg/info/linux-headers-generic.list
[22:25] <TheUser> Ok so this would be different than just installing LXDE ?
[22:26] <arooni-mobile> how do i share mobile broadband connection (usb stick) over wifi?  please help.  ubuntu 13.04
[22:26] <GH0> http://pastebin.com/SNfcTkg3 So just remove the generic .list and the .md5 and it should be alright?
[22:28] <wilee-nilee> arooni-mobile, You looked in the network manager network settings?
[22:28] <wilee-nilee> not sure using a double wifi is possible easily
[22:28] <reisio> double double wifi
[22:29] <xatr0z> GH0: im thinking that would work yes. maybe make a backup instead of remove to be sure :)
[22:29] <GH0> Yeah.
[22:29] <rbtnc> Hello all quick question if i execute "$ sudo dd if=/dev/sdb of=/archive/sara/sdb.img" will that clone the whole hard drive, and make it possible for me to restore it exactly? Because Its a windows drive i am cloning, then wiping to install ubuntu,  with 5 or so partions GPT/EFI.
[22:29] <wilee-nilee> arooni-mobile, If you can get the wifi why keeps the others from it/
[22:29] <wilee-nilee> what*
[22:30] <wilee-nilee> rbtnc, I would clone it with clonezilla
[22:31] <wilee-nilee> I assume it does gpt
[22:31] <rbtnc> wilee-nilee: all my storage drives are on a RAID card and im having issues getting the driver into clonezilla
[22:32] <rbtnc> I would much rather be using clonezilla ;)
[22:32] <wilee-nilee> rbtnc, Ah, that sounds like a mess with failure waiting to happen, not sure why you would have to remove it to install ubuntu, and even if you do it will work, a vm might be better.
[22:33] <wilee-nilee> I believe the windows vm runs linux
[22:33] <rbtnc> it will windows is terrible and windows 8 without a touch screen is even worse than terrible
[22:33] <GH0> xatr0z, http://pastebin.com/cX1Rfj4W moving the file to *.bak didn't seem to solve it either. Now it just complains that the file isn't there.
[22:34] <rbtnc> its not this machine, its a laptop im working on
[22:34] <wilee-nilee> rbtnc, I use W8 without a touch screen easily I just have a 3rd party menu.
[22:34] <wilee-nilee> runs like w7 basically in context
[22:34] <rbtnc> i refuse to its dumb
[22:34] <wilee-nilee> rbtnc, and that is your error, oh well good luck.
[22:35] <rbtnc> not really
[22:35] <wilee-nilee> core values can be problematic if faulty
[22:35] <Johnny_Linux> win 8 has no core values
[22:36] <wilee-nilee> people do
[22:38] <rbtnc> My core values are fine, I refuse to support a product I do not like, so I'm not going to find a way to deal with something I don't want.
[22:38] <Sach> So ubuntu 13.04 is supported for 9 months. What happens after that?
[22:39] <rbtnc> 13.10
[22:39] <rbtnc> lol
[22:39] <rbtnc> and so on...
[22:39] <k1l_> Sach: after that there are no updates. so you need to upgrade to the next version
[22:40] <Johnny_Linux> 14.04
[22:40] <Sach> k1l: Okay, so how do I decide if I stick with 12.04 LTS or upgrade to 13.04?
[22:40] <rbtnc> I'm sure they will do another LTS 12.04 is the current LTS I believe
[22:40] <wilee-nilee> Sach, you ponder it.
[22:40] <rbtnc> Sach: new pc?
[22:41] <Sach> rbtnc: yes.
[22:41] <rbtnc> then u dont need to worry really
[22:41] <wilee-nilee> Sach, Only you know what you want in the end.
[22:41] <rbtnc> u will be able to upgrade for a while before you run into issues
[22:41] <k1l_> Sach: 12.04 gets updated kernels, too. with the 12.04.2 and 12.04.3 releases. that are like servicepacks from windows
[22:41] <Sach> wilee-nilee: are there disadvantages to going with a version that is not LTS?
[22:42] <GH0> xatr0z, yeah, copying all those lines didn't work for this. It is still complaining about a newline missing. Even though the file has been changed.
[22:42] <k1l_> Sach: shorter support frames
[22:42] <Sach> k1l_: do you know is 13.04 is stable?
[22:43] <Sach> *if
[22:43] <rbtnc> Sach: hope so since stable release has been out for 3/4 months
[22:43] <k1l_> Sach: it is a stable relase
[22:43] <reddeath68> I am having trouble with my ubuntu crashing when the crash happens it has the numbers lock turn off and the caps and scroll lock flash repeatedly until I hard reboot the system, also after such a crash it takes multiple attempts to get the system to load under any version of the 3.8 kernel this was working fine until the upgrade to 3.8.0.29-generic
[22:44] <rbtnc> reddeath68: 3.8.0-30-generic
[22:44] <wilee-nilee> Sach, The support time is the main one, some want the newest iterations of apps, it is what fits your needs in the end. ;)
[22:45] <reddeath68> rbtnc, you mean upgrade to that kernel?
[22:45] <wilee-nilee> !reisub | reddeath68
[22:45] <Sach> ok, thanks everyone.  I'll think I'll test drive 13.04 and see how it goes...
[22:45] <rbtnc> reddeath68: can u get into recovery drop to shell and update, yes thats the current 30
[22:45] <wilee-nilee> reddeath68, hard shutdowns are a bad idea.
[22:46] <reddeath68> wilee-nilee, i should be able to get into recovery but my computer relies on wifi not hardwire
[22:46] <reddeath68> ubottu, i had seen something about that when i was on here yesterday but didnt think about it
[22:46] <rbtnc> reddeath68: >recovery> enable netwroking> drop shell> update
[22:47] <wiak> how do i continue in a bash script?
[22:47] <rbtnc> should load your drivers
[22:47] <reddeath68> rbtnc, ok I will try that also sometimes the crash happens in a different way it kicks me to a console screen with lots of everrors if i read the screen right
[22:48] <rbtnc> reddeath68: console is fine u can update from there
[22:48] <Johnny_Linux> reddeath68, try what rbtnc  said
[22:48] <rbtnc> reddeath68: sudo apt-get update then sudo apt-get upgrade
[22:48] <wilee-nilee> reddeath68, ubottu is the bot, I triggered it, I'm not sure of the context of the recovery and wifi inthe info shared so far.
[22:49] <wiak> sudo apt-get install && sudo apt-get upgrade
[22:49] <wiak> will do the same :P
[22:49] <rbtnc> reddeath68: should roll u up to 30 and hopefully get rid of your issues
[22:49] <wiak> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[22:49] <wiak> trallala
[22:49] <rbtnc> if u want to get technical
[22:49] <rbtnc> ;)~
[22:49] <reddeath68> I will trym I know one of the crashes mentioned a kernel panic if that matters before i go do the upgrade
[22:50] <rbtnc> same happened to me u should be fine
[22:50] <Johnny_Linux> getting to .30 kernel should fix thigs
[22:50] <reddeath68> ok ill report back if things persist after this
[22:50] <reddeath68> thank you very much
[22:50] <rbtnc> 29 was out for less than a day, so that should tell u something ;) go upgrade
[22:50] <wilee-nilee> reddeath68, If you have done enough hard shutdowns you may want to fsck the setup, those can be damaging on top of whateverv problems are causing the lockups.
[22:51] <User_Sherloc> `
[22:54] <jasondazombie> Hello!
[22:56] <brenden> Hi, i have a acer s3-391 running ubuntu 13.04. my problem is that the fan constantly keep runing. Is this normal behavior or is there something i can do to fix it?
[22:56] <wilee-nilee> !lm-sensors | brenden maybe this
[22:57] <wilee-nilee> brenden, YOu can see the temps than and go from there.
[22:57] <brenden> wilee-nilee: thanks, i'll check it out
[22:57] <reddeath68> rbtnc, ok i got to all but the last step you gave me and when i typed update it told me command not found am i missing something (very possible im still learning to use linux)
[22:58] <wilee-nilee> brenden, You can use a conky, or a panel applet to see the temps, I use a exstension in the gnome-shell.
[22:58] <User_Sherloc> d
[22:59] <brenden> wilee-nilee: the current temps are 45 and 46 degrees celcius
[22:59] <wilee-nilee> reddeath68, can you pastebin sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade  hit n for no to run it
[22:59] <cornell> Hello
[22:59] <reddeath68> wilee-nilee, sure give me one second my computer is a touch slow
[23:00] <wilee-nilee> brenden, That's not bad, the fans can be hard to control on some computers, so I believe the lm-sensors wiki has some info there, not sure.
[23:01] <alvarus> hello , somebody from israel?
[23:01] <brenden> wilee-nilee: i just ran the sensor-detect command. gonna reboot and see if it helps
[23:01] <rbtnc> reddeath68: do what wilee-nilee said cause somethings not right
[23:01] <wilee-nilee> alvarus, Not a ubuntu support issue, would you like the channel?
[23:02] <reddeath68> working on it
[23:02] <alvarus> yes wilee-nilee
[23:02] <rbtnc> cause im missing something dont really work for troubleshooting lol
[23:02] <wilee-nilee> alvarus, cool, #ubuntu-il
[23:03] <alvarus> ok , thank
[23:03] <wilee-nilee> no problem
[23:03] <rbtnc> reddeath68: did u sudo the commands?
[23:03] <rbtnc> reddeath68: had to ask ;/
[23:04] <reddeath68> rbtnc, why sudo when i was in root?
[23:04] <rbtnc> ok thats fine
[23:04] <rbtnc> sure you were root?
[23:04] <alvarus> but all of them are sleeping now , jaja
[23:04] <brenden> wilee-nilee: the fan noise wen down considerably. thanks for the help
[23:05] <Johnny_Linux> i dont think it goes into root automatically
[23:05] <reddeath68> http://pastebin.com/zWzDnptT for apt-get update  http://pastebin.com/TVjuDYQK for apt-get dist-upgrade
[23:05] <wilee-nilee> brenden, cool, enjoy
[23:05] <brenden> sensor-detect worked
[23:05] <rbtnc> reddeath68: $ or #
[23:05] <wilee-nilee> reddeath68, What OS os this, and why would you be in  root?
[23:05] <quidnunc> Is gparted included in the alternate install cd?
[23:06] <reddeath68> wilee-nilee, it is ubuntu 13.04 and i was in root because i dropped down shell in recovery
[23:06] <wilee-nilee> quidnunc, no it is all text
[23:06] <quidnunc> wilee-nilee: There must be some partition manager, right?
[23:06] <reddeath68> rbtnc, what do you mean $ or # iv seen different people with either but i never knew why they were different
[23:06] <wilee-nilee> quidnunc, yes, there is you will see it.
[23:06] <rbtnc> reddeath68: # = root $ not root
[23:07] <quidnunc> wilee-nilee: What is it? I need to know if it supports resizing btrfs partitions
[23:07] <wilee-nilee> quidnunc, Which release alternative are you wanting, above 12.04 it is a net install the mini.
[23:07] <rbtnc> reddeath68:  when your in terminal # means your logged in as root
[23:07] <quidnunc> wilee-nilee: Yeah net install
[23:07] <quidnunc> 13.04
[23:07] <reddeath68> rbtnc, o i c well i used drop down to root option in recovery so I assume i was running as root when it told me upgrade command didnt exist
[23:07] <rbtnc> reddeath68: do "uname -a"
[23:07] <wilee-nilee> quidnunc, I'm not sure on btrfs
[23:08] <reddeath68> rbtnc, http://pastebin.com/TVjuDYQK
[23:08] <quidnunc> wilee-nilee: what is the partition utility included on the net install iso?
[23:08] <reddeath68> rbtnc, woops wrong p[aste
[23:08] <wilee-nilee> reddeath68, YOU may not be mounted in  recovery
[23:08] <zykotick9> reddeath68: it's "apt-get upgrade", BUT i'd suggest you want "apt-get dist-upgrade" for a kernel update (perhaps)
[23:08] <reddeath68> rbtnc, Linux reddeath68-desktop 3.8.0-29-generic #42-Ubuntu SMP Tue Aug 13 23:12:18 UTC 2013 i686 athlon i686 GNU/Linux
[23:09] <rbtnc> reddeath68: ^^^
[23:09] <wilee-nilee> quidnunc, I though btrfs could be resized live
[23:09] <reddeath68> so jump back to recovery and try apt-get upgrade and apt-get dist-upgrade ?
[23:09] <rbtnc> yes
[23:09] <quidnunc> wilee-nilee: It can but gparted doesn't seem to want to do it (the option is greyed out)
[23:09] <reddeath68> ok will do also when we get this all fixed i got a few questions but lets fix this first
[23:11] <wilee-nilee> quidnunc, This might be helpful. http://askubuntu.com/questions/75120/how-can-i-safely-resize-shrink-a-btrfs-partition
[23:12] <wilee-nilee> quidnunc, just more info here. http://askubuntu.com/search?q=resize+btrfs
[23:13] <cjpcjp_> forgive me if this sounds naive, but should the root directory /var/www owner be root or the user?
[23:13] <rbtnc> root
[23:14] <rbtnc> well maybe not depends
[23:14] <xatr0z> root by default, but most people change the group to www-data
[23:14] <wilee-nilee> cjpcjp_, this might help. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1922768
[23:15] <xatr0z> and then add your user to www-data so both apache and you can write to it
[23:15] <rbtnc> here he is...
[23:15] <rbtnc> shhhh hes back
[23:15] <rbtnc> hi reddeath68
[23:15] <tgm4883> where does apt download packages to before installing?
[23:16] <xatr0z> tgm4883: /var/cache/apt/archives/
[23:16] <rbtnc> ./var/cache/apt
[23:16] <tgm4883> xatr0z, bummer. Is that cleaned out often?
[23:16] <reddeath68> ok i ran both commands and both times received this output: the following packages have been left back   libpam-modules   libpam-modules-bin  libpam0g
[23:16] <rbtnc> tgm4883: no
[23:16] <xatr0z> tgm4883: only if you do it i
[23:17] <rbtnc> tgm4883: open synaptic open settings you can change the setting and clear the packs from there
[23:17] <xatr0z> i installed ubuntu tweak for things like that and more (like removing old kernels)
[23:17] <xatr0z> but its not really stable or officially supported
[23:17] <kevin> hey guys. so i have a folder in my home directory named 'x' as well as an application named 'x'. if i use alt+f2 and want to run 'x', it instead opens the folder. is there a way i can change this? or do i just have to put full path for executable 'x'
[23:18] <rbtnc> u can do alot of damage with that lol
[23:18] <tgm4883> rbtnc, nah, I'm looking for an older package kernel package, but it's not on this machine I'm on
[23:18] <tgm4883> someone else must have cleaned this :(
[23:18] <rbtnc> o ok
[23:18] <reddeath68> so any ideas on that weird output when running the commands
[23:18] <rbtnc> reddeath68: are you on the system now?
[23:18] <tgm4883> Is there someplace to download older kernels? It doesn't appear to be available in apt anymore
[23:18] <reddeath68> yes i am
[23:19] <reddeath68> rbtnc, my other system is in for warrenty =(
[23:19] <rbtnc> so everything is fine now? what if you run the gui updater
[23:19] <reddeath68> rbtnc, gui updater? you mean system updater?
[23:19] <rbtnc> yes
[23:20] <rbtnc> do you get an error?
[23:20] <reddeath68> rbtnc, idk ill run it right now
[23:21] <xatr0z> tgm4883: you could run into troubles, but you could download the .deb's
[23:21] <xatr0z> probably need to install them with dpkg -i
[23:21] <tgm4883> xatr0z, I don't see anywhere to download the debs. They aren't on the repos
[23:21] <reddeath68> rbtnc, the problem is it crashes randomly gives me trouble booting a few times then works for a bit and repeats
[23:21] <reddeath68> well i wait for the updater i did have a few quick questions
[23:22] <zykotick9> reddeath68: IF (big If there) you are running the default ubuntu repos, i wouldn't expect anything to be left/held back, if you run "sudo apt-get update" then "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade".  IF on the other hand, you are mixing repos (or using any PPAs) then all-bets-are-off.
[23:22] <tgm4883> xatr0z, looking at http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux-meta/
[23:22] <reddeath68> first i want my pidgin to start on system load how would i do that?
[23:22] <rbtnc> reddeath68: LOL if we knew you where logged into the system we wouldnt have told you to do that other stuff
[23:23] <rbtnc> reddeath68: dont matter it shouldnt be holding updates back unless u did something, so updater crashed?
[23:23] <reddeath68> rbtnc, lol o well at least it shows it lets me lof in when it wants too....
[23:23] <reddeath68> rbtnc, i ran updater once it said it couldnt load a repository told me to check connection hit try again and it worked
[23:24] <rbtnc> you prob have non official PPAs
[23:24] <rbtnc> so it gave you stuff to update including Kernel?
[23:24] <Johnny_Linux> uncheck them in sources and ty again
[23:24] <reddeath68> rbtnc, showed no new updates
[23:24] <rbtnc> go to you Software Sources
[23:25] <reddeath68> rbtnc, also i did install a ppa last night manually via a deb i could remove the repo and try again?
[23:25] <rbtnc> setting > Software Sources
[23:26] <wilee-nilee> !who | Johnny_Linux
[23:26] <reddeath68> rbtnc, ok the ppa i installed didnt show under sources I may have missed it in the list
[23:27] <wilee-nilee> Johnny_Linux, You are not actually helping anyone but piggy backing and making comments at least use nicks.
[23:27] <k1l_> reddeath68: show a "ls -al /etc/apt/sources.list.d/" in a pastebin please
[23:28] <xatr0z> tgm4883: i dont know what linux-meta means, but sounds okay. maybe youd better use http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux/
[23:28] <xatr0z> but either way changing kernels is not something to do for fun, could introduce alot of problems
[23:28] <reisio> or even a lot
[23:28] <xatr0z> and sorry it took so long to respond :)
[23:29] <tgm4883> xatr0z, I know. I'm actually trying to fix an issue though. That site doesn't list the version I'm looking for either
[23:29] <reddeath68> kil_    http://pastebin.com/wYmBJzRu
[23:29] <ChogyDan> xatr0z: linux-meta is the source package for all the linux meta packages, ie, the packages which aren't headers and images
[23:29] <tgm4883> I'll have to try the later version and hope it works
[23:29] <ChogyDan> xatr0z: linux-generic linux-headers, etc etc
[23:29] <rbtnc> LOL
[23:30] <rbtnc> wtf dude
[23:30] <xatr0z> ah makes sense :)
[23:30] <tgm4883> rbtnc, at me?
[23:30] <rbtnc> no
[23:30] <wilee-nilee> rbtnc, acronyms are not acceptable
[23:30] <rbtnc> sorry
[23:31] <reddeath68> if it matters this is what i did to install the ppa last night gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv 0xb6f77e28fe4f4eac && gpg --export --armor 0xb6f77e28fe4f4eac | sudo apt-key add -
[23:31] <wilee-nilee> no biggie. ;)
[23:32] <rbtnc> reddeath68:  you have to remember PPAs are basically a free unabated line into your PC
[23:32] <rbtnc> so u should really only add them if you 100% trust them
[23:33] <zykotick9> reddeath68: that's just adding a gpg key, only part 1 of adding a repo.  while adding PPAs isn't the greatest idea IMO, use "add-apt-repo"-OR_SIMILAR_NAME to do it, it takes care of both the key and the repo in 1 easy step.
[23:33] <reddeath68> rbtnc, understood here is the official page for what I installed last night https://mapcrafter.readthedocs.org/en/latest/installation.html    but these problems have been ongoing since the kernel upgrade to 3.8.0.29-generic
[23:34] <reddeath68> zykotick9, please see the link i just posted for a full list of what i did under dection debian
[23:34] <reddeath68> section*
[23:34] <rbtnc> what ver are you runnin
[23:34] <rbtnc> of ubu
[23:35] <zykotick9> reddeath68: sorry, i don't go to pastebin.com
[23:35] <rbtnc> cause u have a raring ppa and a quantal
[23:35] <reddeath68> zykotick9, no the mapcrafter link shows what i did last night
[23:36] <reddeath68> rbtnc, i upgraded from 12.10 when 13.04 came out so it probably left the old ppas there
[23:36] <reddeath68> rbtnc, i do see the ppa i installed last night should i disable it and try to upgrade again?
[23:38] <qin> Wonder why not pastebin.com...
[23:40] <zykotick9> qin: <OT this is from #debian's dpkg bot> <dpkg> pastebin.com mangles input, takes forever to load, often makes us enter a CAPTCHA to see your paste and fills the screen with ads.  Please use a different site, like http://paste.debian.net/ </OT> use paste.ubuntu.com here...  ;)
[23:41] <wilee-nilee> never seen any of that but I have flash and adblock
[23:42] <mjw99> I've just downloaded the 12.04.3 X86_64 desktop iso and attempted to burn it to a CD, but my burner tool states it's too large to burn to a CD. The md5sums indicate that the iso image is good, have I missed something here?
[23:42] <wilee-nilee> mjw99, Check the properties size
[23:42] <zykotick9> mjw99: isn't it a dvd?  how big is it?
[23:43] <mjw99> 724,992 KB.... hmmm ok
[23:44] <wilee-nilee> mjw99, cd's genrally will go to 720
[23:44] <zykotick9> mjw99: ahhh that looks more like a cd to me?  are you using a 650 or 700 cd?
[23:45] <mjw99> 700MB cd
[23:45] <wilee-nilee> mjw99, Ubuntu has been above a cd load size for awhile, not sure when it started.
[23:45] <zykotick9> ?
[23:46] <juki> alternate cd?
[23:47] <mjw99> So, going from 12.04.2 --> 12.04.3 I can no longer burn to a CD? Is this mentioned in the release notes? I could understand going from a major release, e.g. 12.04 to 13.04 that such a behaviour change could be expected, but not for a point release.
[23:47] <mjw99> hmmm as much as I dislike the idiots over at reddit; there seems to be chatter about this:
[23:47] <mjw99> http://www.reddit.com/r/Ubuntu/comments/1kywq9/12043_too_big_to_fit_on_cd/
[23:48] <wilee-nilee> mjw99, Why are you just not upgrading in the terminal
[23:49] <jcorgan> Is there a way to install gcc 4.7 without compiling from source?
[23:49] <reisio> jcorgan: with a binary :)
[23:49] <jcorgan> sorry, on 12.04
[23:49] <mjw99> wilnee-nilee, because I like to test to see if it actually works. 12.04.1 was the only version that worked on my latop; 12.04.2 crashed on boot.
[23:50] <wilee-nilee> mjw99, The oversizing of the iso is common knowledge.
[23:50] <wilee-nilee> not put in sky writing locally is all
[23:50] <mjw99> wilnee-nilee; ok, but something in the release notes?
[23:51] <mjw99> and making such a change on a point release?
[23:51] <wilee-nilee> mjw99, Not sure, it is of your interest and in your craw look it up, I surprised to be honest this is a big deal, there are many other issues in the world to focus on, ;)
[23:52] <mjw99> I'm sorry I don't follow the term "in your craw look it up"?
[23:53] <ChogyDan> mjw99: it might be that for a point release, they didn't take the time to make sure that it was small enough for a cd
[23:53] <Psil0Cybin> hey guys i have a question when i randomly start up my laptop sometimes itXubuntu boots into terminal instead of the GUI. How can i attempt to diagnose the problem
[23:53] <Psil0Cybin> it only happens randomly
[23:53] <Psil0Cybin> only once every couple of restarts
[23:53] <Psil0Cybin> and when i restart sometimes it just works and goes into the GUI
[23:53] <mnathani> How can I fix this error: [3732448.908209] non-accessible hardlink creation was attempted by: named (fsuid 105)
[23:53] <wilee-nilee> ChogyDan, The info was announced and why
[23:54] <mjw99> wilee-nilee; I assume that was a reference to the link I pasted? That was just a quick search to see if anyone else was having such an issue.
[23:54] <ChogyDan> Psil0Cybin: try /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[23:54] <wilee-nilee> a long time ago
[23:55] <zykotick9> jcorgan: changing gcc on precise MAY not be trivial to do.  gcc is a pretty "core" component.  best of luck (maybe it's simple, i've certainly never done it)
[23:55] <Psil0Cybin> Thank you ChogyDan
[23:55] <wilee-nilee> when each iteration of ubuntu is released on the ubuntu website that info is there they disappear on the next release basically
[23:55] <jcorgan> zykotick9: not trying to change it out, just need to compile something that uses c++11 features supported in 4.7
[23:56] <jcorgan> so i want to install 4.7 along side the system gcc
[23:56] <jcorgan> was hoping there were packages but i guess 4.7 didn't get packaged back that far
[23:57] <zykotick9> jcorgan: i doubt the "package" system would allow you to have two concurrent versions like that...
[23:57] <jcorgan> i did find a page on compiling 4.7 from source but that's a lot of work and i'm lazy
[23:57] <ChogyDan> jcorgan: I think there are ways of setting up build environments inside a chroot.  Maybe sbuilder or pbuilder is what you are looking for?
[23:57] <zykotick9> ChogyDan: +1 for chroot
[23:57] <ChogyDan> jcorgan: that way, it doesn't matter what your base system has...
[23:57] <jcorgan> ChogyDan: chroot 13.04 is exactly what i was thinking of
[23:58] <mjw99> wilee-nilee; to address your second comment, doing something out of character (and I perceive this to be) on a point release does not instill confidence in the LTS governance of that distrobution.
[23:58] <mjw99> *distribution
[23:59] <jcorgan> zykotick9: it is possible to have deb installs of multiple compilers; one gets to be 'gcc'; the rest are gcc-x.x and all the support stuff has prefixed directory names
[23:59] <jcorgan> but it has to be packaged that way