[10:49] <cub> OvenWerk1, are you around?
[12:41] <smartboyhw> Sure, the one asking for help isn't around:P
[13:57] <OvenWerk1> smartboyhw: My BZR pushes link again....
[13:57] <smartboyhw> OvenWerk1, :O
[13:57] <smartboyhw> AGAIN!?
[13:57] <OvenWerk1> Ya, it worked when I first started then stopped..
[13:58] <smartboyhw> Eh
[13:58] <smartboyhw> WEIRD
[13:58] <OvenWerk1> It seems I needed to put <> around my address
[13:58] <smartboyhw> OvenWerk1, it's like
[13:58] <smartboyhw> bzr whoami "Howard Chan <smartboyhw@gmail.com>"
[13:58] <smartboyhw> bzr launchpad-login smartboyhw
[13:58] <smartboyhw> (PLEASE DO NOT USE MY DATA OR INFORMATION OR I WILL KILL YOU:P)
[13:59] <OvenWerk1> Why would I do that?
[13:59] <smartboyhw> OvenWerk1, I am not talking about you, but who knows
[14:00] <OvenWerk1> Anyway, All fixed.
[14:02] <OvenWerk1> I think I have done any of the mods I will do for 13.10
[14:03] <smartboyhw> OvenWerk1, that's good;)
[14:03] <smartboyhw> Now we can plan for 14.04 (LOL)
[14:03] <OvenWerk1> ardour3
[14:04] <OvenWerk1> netjack2 with opus
[14:06]  * OvenWerk1 thinks he might do some patches for grub2 upstream
[14:09] <OvenWerk1> So what is the package x264? And why is it failing to build? Why are we building a lucid package every night?
[14:10] <smartboyhw> OvenWerk1, you mean, in Ubuntu Studio?
[14:10] <smartboyhw> x264 would probably mean a codec name for me
[14:10] <OvenWerk1> Ya, I get email every day
[14:10] <smartboyhw> Apple stuff I think
[14:10] <smartboyhw> no;p
[14:10] <smartboyhw> OvenWerk1, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/x264
[14:11] <OvenWerk1> thankyou
[14:12] <OvenWerk1> I don't see anywhere that it belongs to Studio though
[14:13] <smartboyhw> OvenWerk1, the main question is: Why are you getting these notifications?
[14:15] <OvenWerk1> “Ubuntu Studio Nightly” team gets them
[14:16] <OvenWerk1> It seems someone started this a long time ago and never turned it off
[14:16] <smartboyhw> Mmm
[14:16] <smartboyhw> Basically, I don't even understand the existence of Nightly team
[14:16] <smartboyhw> zequence, is it possible to remove it?
[14:17] <OvenWerk1> I think we have it for newer stuff too.
[14:17] <OvenWerk1> The idea is that we can have current packages in a US PPA we can try.
[14:17] <smartboyhw> OvenWerk1, but now that PPA is with lucid and maverick
[14:18] <smartboyhw> And in ~ubuntustudio-dev we got our own PPA.
[14:18] <smartboyhw> Anyways, it might be possible to stop the build charm
[14:18] <OvenWerk1> I am not directly in that team
[14:18] <OvenWerk1> It belongs to development
[14:19] <smartboyhw> OvenWerk1, me too
[14:19] <smartboyhw> OvenWerk1, would it be a better idea if I switch the x264 build recipe to "Build on request"?
[14:19] <smartboyhw> OvenWerk1, or maybe you should unsubscribe to the mailign list itself
[14:20] <OvenWerk1> I think we need to fix the problem. It is not a good idea to waste resources on this.
[14:21] <OvenWerk1> We are building 12 packages for nothing.
[14:21] <smartboyhw> zequence, what do you think? ^
[14:21] <OvenWerk1> Anyone who wants "bleeding edge" is not running mavrick or lucid
[14:22] <smartboyhw> OvenWerk1, and actually we have already stopped support for Lucid (let alone Maverick)
[14:22] <OvenWerk1> At the very least they should be set to trunk
[14:23] <OvenWerk1> I think that way they would build for whatever is current. maybe for the LTS too
[14:23] <smartboyhw> OvenWerk1, yeah
[14:23] <smartboyhw> Not such old rotten releases
[14:24] <OvenWerk1> Also we should look at the packages, The stable release might be mature enough not to need this.
[14:26] <OvenWerk1> I suspect that when these were started, the ubuntu version was not usable for some things.
[14:26] <smartboyhw> OK
[14:27] <OvenWerk1> Are all those packages a part of blender? (or depends?)
[14:28] <smartboyhw> OvenWerk1, at least x264 isn't included in saucy
[14:29] <OvenWerk1> But there is a build for it anyway
[14:31] <OvenWerk1> Ga! even worse, the versions that are being built are hard coded so they are older than what is in the main repo now.
[14:31] <smartboyhw> SIGH\
[14:31] <smartboyhw> We should create our own nightly PPA in ~ubuntustudio-dev and just abolish this team.
[14:31] <smartboyhw> i.e. ~ubuntustudio-nightly
[14:33] <OvenWerk1> I stopped blender from building
[14:34] <OvenWerk1> I don't know where the others are though
[14:41] <OvenWerk1> smartboyhw: ok is turned off
[14:41] <OvenWerk1> (the one that failed)
[14:44] <OvenWerk1> owner says Andrew Hunter, but I was able to stop the recipes, so maybe we have the access to drop this team.
[14:44] <OvenWerk1> Should pass it by zequence  though.
[14:45] <OvenWerk1> We do have a PPA already.
[14:46] <smartboyhw> OvenWerk1, OK
[15:12] <OvenWerk1> smartboyhw: I have put a list of new stuff for saucy in the ML
[15:12] <OvenWerk1> it can be used with whatever else happens for the saucy release notes
[15:14] <smartboyhw> OvenWerk1, I know, replying. Do you remember the first name of cub?
[15:14] <smartboyhw> Ah, Jimmy
[15:18] <zequence> smartboyhw: OvenWerk1: That team is not apart of Ubuntu Studio anymore. Andrew still uses it for something. I know Scott was in contact with him. I could send him an email about it as well
[15:19] <zequence> It's not a Ubuntu Studio team. But, it's not bothering us either, so there's no hurry to get that solved
[15:20] <smartboyhw> zequence, OK...
[15:20] <smartboyhw> OvenWerk1, zequence sent a reply to the list of saucy things:P
[15:22] <smartboyhw> It looked like an appraisement mail-.-
[16:17] <OvenWerk1> smartboyhw: you forgot Mish who did most of the icon work :)