| infinitux | hi | 02:40 |
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| infinitux | anybody know anything about midi pianos? | 02:40 |
| holstein | yes | 02:41 |
| infinitux | great. | 02:41 |
| infinitux | i'm trying to set mine up in linux | 02:41 |
| holstein | with what interface? | 02:41 |
| infinitux | I have no idea what i'm doing. | 02:41 |
| infinitux | lol | 02:41 |
| holstein | infinitux: let me tell you how i set up my maudio keyboard, and maybe that will help | 02:41 |
| infinitux | well i've been trying to get it to work with whatever i need | 02:41 |
| holstein | i plug it in | 02:41 |
| infinitux | okay, i have an maudio oxygen 49 | 02:42 |
| infinitux | i've gotten as far as seeing input from the keyboard | 02:42 |
| holstein | i have another USB midi controller that i use with other keyoards via midi, and this is how i set it up.. | 02:42 |
| holstein | i plug it in | 02:42 |
| holstein | if you need special firmware, i personally havent needed that, so i might not be much help | 02:42 |
| infinitux | if I do: amidi -p hw:2,0,0 -d my piano shows input | 02:42 |
| holstein | you might get more help in #opensourcemusicians | 02:42 |
| infinitux | cool holstein thanks | 02:43 |
| holstein | what do i do? | 02:43 |
| holstein | i plug it in, and i run jack.. i open something like yoshimi, and make connections in jack and test it | 02:43 |
| holstein | its very likely its all just working, and waiting to be properly connected | 02:43 |
| holstein | !info a2jmidid | 02:43 |
| ubottu | a2jmidid (source: a2jmidid): Daemon for exposing legacy ALSA MIDI in JACK MIDI systems. In component universe, is extra. Version 8~dfsg0-1 (raring), package size 32 kB, installed size 118 kB | 02:43 |
| infinitux | okay, that's what i'm trying to do but i'm failing because i don't know how to make the connections right | 02:43 |
| holstein | ^^ is handy, if needed | 02:43 |
| holstein | infinitux: you literally click and drag connections in JACK | 02:44 |
| holstein | !proaudio | 02:44 |
| ubottu | For information on professional audio tools in Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudio/ProAudioIntro | 02:44 |
| infinitux | thanks | 02:44 |
| infinitux | it would be a nice starter to get lmms and rosegarden working | 02:45 |
| infinitux | and mess with some different synth instruments | 02:45 |
| holstein | yeah | 02:46 |
| holstein | dont do that | 02:46 |
| holstein | just keep it simple | 02:47 |
| holstein | open literally the application i suggested.. yoshimi | 02:47 |
| holstein | use the keyboard from the menu to make sure the synth (yoshimi) is making sound | 02:47 |
| holstein | then, connect your keyboard to it (in JACK) and troubleshoot til that makes sound | 02:48 |
| holstein | *then*, you'll know how to run the 3 other things you are talking about | 02:48 |
| infinitux | okay | 02:52 |
| infinitux | that's a starter for me | 02:52 |
| infinitux | thanks | 02:52 |
| infinitux | okay i got yoshimi running | 02:54 |
| infinitux | not getting and sound from the virkbd | 02:55 |
| holstein | then, you start with that | 02:55 |
| holstein | you dont have audio connected properly | 02:55 |
| infinitux | can you help me connect it? | 02:55 |
| infinitux | that's my issue | 02:55 |
| holstein | infinitux: you open jack, and draw a ling between the outputs of yoshimi and the inputs of your sound card | 02:56 |
| infinitux | in connections under audio? | 02:56 |
| holstein | infinitux: "connect" | 02:56 |
| infinitux | readable clients/output ports | writable clients / input ports | 02:56 |
| holstein | correct | 02:57 |
| infinitux | yoshimi | system | 02:57 |
| holstein | and different tabs | 02:57 |
| infinitux | okay | 02:57 |
| holstein | i usually suggest, hook everything to everything, til you sort out what is what | 02:57 |
| infinitux | okay, now i have sound in virKbd | 02:57 |
| holstein | ok.. so you do the same sort of connecting in the alsa and/or midi tab | 02:58 |
| infinitux | okay | 02:58 |
| holstein | if find yoshimi in one place and the keybaord in another, try a2jmidid | 02:58 |
| infinitux | under midi i have: | 02:59 |
| infinitux | readable clients / output ports | writable clients / input ports | 02:59 |
| holstein | infinitux: if you dont have both the keybaord and yoshimi, use a2jmidid | 02:59 |
| infinitux | "Blank" | yoshimi -> midi in | 02:59 |
| holstein | the issue with sharing those with me is, they can be diffent for you hardware than for mine | 02:59 |
| infinitux | and under ALSA: | 02:59 |
| holstein | so, i cant say "click this exact thing" | 03:00 |
| holstein | again, connect them *all* and test what is what | 03:00 |
| holstein | it literally wont hurt to run a2jmidid either.. you open a terminal and type that | 03:00 |
| infinitux | i did install that | 03:01 |
| holstein | you have to run it | 03:01 |
| holstein | open a terminal and type that in | 03:01 |
| infinitux | did that | 03:08 |
| holstein | that? | 03:09 |
| infinitux | lol | 03:17 |
| holstein | ? | 03:17 |
| infinitux | seems like i'm so close | 03:17 |
| holstein | i think so | 03:17 |
| infinitux | i managed to get the audio piping to work between yoshimi and the sound device | 03:17 |
| holstein | yup.. thats a good step | 03:18 |
| infinitux | and i can see my keyboard under alsa, but whatever i pipe it to has no sound | 03:18 |
| holstein | your keyboard is not capable of making sounds | 03:18 |
| infinitux | yes i know | 03:18 |
| holstein | you pipe it to yoshimi | 03:18 |
| infinitux | that's what i'm trying to do, but apparently i'm doing it wrong | 03:18 |
| holstein | OK.. just making sure | 03:18 |
| holstein | infinitux: take a screenie if you thing it'll help.. | 03:18 |
| holstein | !paste | 03:18 |
| ubottu | For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. | 03:18 |
| infinitux | think i'll do that | 03:20 |
| infinitux | think a2j isn't capturing the right device | 03:21 |
| infinitux | if it were i could connect it to yoshimi and it would work | 03:21 |
| infinitux | i just simply ran a2jmidid | 03:21 |
| infinitux | with no parameters | 03:21 |
| holstein | right... you dot have to | 03:22 |
| holstein | it creates an entry you can pipe to the other tab | 03:22 |
| infinitux | http://www.pasteall.org/pic/58135 and http://www.pasteall.org/pic/58136 and http://www.pasteall.org/pic/58137 | 03:27 |
| infinitux | that shows the jack network | 03:27 |
| infinitux | what am i doing wrong? | 03:28 |
| holstein | infinitux: the midi thru port.. pretty sure | 03:29 |
| holstein | in the "alsa" tab | 03:30 |
| infinitux | okay | 03:30 |
| holstein | connect oxygen to midi through | 03:30 |
| infinitux | oxygen to midi through? | 03:30 |
| holstein | then, in midi, connect midi trhough to yoshimi (or whatever) | 03:30 |
| holstein | there *is* an easier way, and i'll have someone show you.. but i forget it | 03:31 |
| holstein | but, that will work | 03:31 |
| infinitux | i did all that, but it's still mute | 03:32 |
| infinitux | I suck! | 03:32 |
| holstein | nah... | 03:32 |
| infinitux | lol | 03:33 |
| holstein | relevant http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1401008 | 03:37 |
| infinitux | kinda complicated! | 03:41 |
| infinitux | your average joe couldn't figure this out | 03:41 |
| holstein | infinitux: its not necessarily "user friendly", but its worth it | 03:43 |
| holstein | and, there is an easier way, i just never learned it | 03:43 |
| infinitux | :( | 03:47 |
| infinitux | still no success | 03:47 |
| holstein | you'll get it.. just hang in #opensourcemusicians and ask | 03:47 |
| infinitux | just a hunch, but maybe there is something wrong | 03:49 |
| infinitux | it seems i'm making the connections right | 03:49 |
| holstein | maybe | 03:49 |
| holstein | i dont know if that particular maudio hardware actually works | 03:49 |
| infinitux | it does | 03:50 |
| holstein | though, i thought it did | 03:50 |
| infinitux | if I execute: amidi -p hw:2,0,0 -d I do see output from my midi piano when pressing keys | 03:51 |
| infinitux | i know the piano works and the driver works | 03:51 |
| holstein | eh.. i believe it when i hear it | 03:51 |
| holstein | though, im sure you're right | 03:51 |
| holstein | anyways.. you'll get it.. you can always try #ardour, but i think the opensourcemsusicians channel is best.. hang here as long as you like as well | 03:52 |
| infinitux | holstein: you still there? | 05:10 |
| ng_ | Hi guys, Im having issues with jackd, the folks at #jack couldnt help me with this, they told me like im having more than one version installed | 21:37 |
| ng_ | so the output of: sudo find / -name libjack\* is http://pastebin.com/3Q3GTbpH | 21:37 |
| zequence | ng_: Having two versions would have to mean you compiled jack aside from installing it | 21:40 |
| zequence | or you used a non official package to install another version of jack | 21:40 |
| zequence | or script, etc | 21:40 |
| zequence | Did you do any of those things, or you just installed using apt? | 21:40 |
| zequence | ng_: And also, have you added any PPAs that have jackd in them? | 21:40 |
| ng_ | well, it is possible I dont rememeber right now, because I have ubuntu desktop with jack working, then I upgraded to ubuntu-studio to hadd realtime support | 21:41 |
| zequence | how did you upgrade? | 21:41 |
| zequence | and what is it that you don't remember? | 21:42 |
| ng_ | I dont rememeber how I did install jack | 21:42 |
| zequence | could you do: ls /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ | 21:42 |
| zequence | ng_: I don't understand. You don't remember if you compiled your own jack, or installed it? | 21:42 |
| ng_ | http://pastebin.com/ThNw9uiM | 21:43 |
| zequence | ng_: You don't have Ubuntu Studio. And you have tons of PPAs | 21:43 |
| zequence | ng_: Including the KXStudio PPA | 21:43 |
| zequence | ng_: Which means, it's not Ubuntu Studio you have installed | 21:44 |
| zequence | ng_: you could try #kxstudio | 21:44 |
| zequence | The KXStudio PPA overrides the packages normally installed with Ubuntu Studio | 21:44 |
| zequence | The only thing you have from Ubuntu Studio is the theme pretty much | 21:44 |
| ng_ | really? I thought I have it because the splash screen says ubuntu-studio | 21:44 |
| zequence | Yes, that's the theming | 21:45 |
| zequence | The way jack is packaged in KXStudio is not the same as in Ubuntu Studio | 21:45 |
| zequence | The jack you have is not Ubuntu | 21:46 |
| zequence | and what is in Ubuntu Studio is the same as in Ubuntu. | 21:46 |
| zequence | apart from setting up realtime privilege, the only thing that differs between Ubuntu and UBuntu Studio is theming | 21:46 |
| zequence | all the packages are the same, as they are in the same repo | 21:46 |
| ng_ | yes now that you mention I rememeber installing jack from kxstudio | 21:46 |
| zequence | but, KXStudio has its own packages | 21:46 |
| zequence | Well, of course you did | 21:46 |
| ng_ | :) | 21:46 |
| zequence | Adding PPAs means you change the system | 21:47 |
| ng_ | what If I just remove the PPa, apt-get pruge and then install them again? | 21:47 |
| zequence | No garantees | 21:47 |
| zequence | but you could ask someone at #kxstudio for help | 21:47 |
| ng_ | ok | 21:48 |
| ng_ | and what shall I do to get ubuntu studio ? | 21:49 |
| zequence | The best would be to do a fresh install | 21:49 |
| zequence | check http://ubuntustudio.org/download | 21:49 |
| ng_ | mm | 21:50 |
| ng_ | is there anyway to 'upgrade' ubuntu desktop to ubuntu-studio ? | 21:50 |
| ng_ | like I did with the theme, but for audio or video ? | 21:52 |
| zequence | ng_: Sure. Install the meta packages | 22:09 |
| zequence | ng_: do: apt-cache search ubuntustudio | 22:09 |
| zequence | install the ones that you are interested in. I suppose -audio | 22:10 |
| zequence | And if you need low latency, install linux-lowlatency | 22:10 |
| zequence | you'll need to add yourself to audio groupt to get realtime privilege | 22:10 |
| zequence | sudo usermod -a -G audio $USER | 22:10 |
| zequence | $USER is an env variable. You can see what it stands for with: echo $USER | 22:10 |
| ng_ | those are package names? | 22:10 |
| ng_ | linux-lowlatency ? | 22:10 |
| zequence | linux-lowlatency is a package name yes | 22:11 |
| zequence | ubuntustudio-audio is another package name | 22:11 |
| ng_ | says ubuntustudio-audio already installed | 22:11 |
| zequence | ng_: Well, yes. But you don't have a clean install of Ubuntu | 22:12 |
| zequence | ng_: You have a lot of stuff in that system | 22:12 |
| zequence | installing Ubuntu Studio metas is not going to remove KXStudio | 22:12 |
| zequence | as I told you before, KX repos override the Ubuntu ones | 22:13 |
| zequence | Ubuntu Studio == Ubuntu | 22:13 |
| ng_ | yep Im also removing kxstudio right now | 22:13 |
| zequence | There's no guarantee the system will be right once you have done that | 22:13 |
| ng_ | ppa purge should work for that | 22:13 |
| zequence | Yeah, but it won't remove the packages | 22:13 |
| zequence | and you can't uninstall them easily | 22:13 |
| zequence | plus you will most probably have some settings left that mess things up | 22:14 |
| zequence | As I said before - do a fresh install | 22:14 |
| zequence | that would be the easiest way | 22:14 |
| ng_ | what if I ppa purge kxstudio, then apt-get purge ubuntustudio-audio, then apt-get intall ubuntustudio-audio | 22:14 |
| zequence | Well, whatever. It's your system :) | 22:15 |
| zequence | removing ubuntustudio-audio will only remove the meta. Not any packages | 22:15 |
| zequence | and you don't need to uninstall ubuntustudio packages | 22:16 |
| zequence | you need to get rid of KXStudio packages plus settings | 22:16 |
| zequence | not sure you'll be able to do that so easily, is what I'm saying | 22:16 |
| ng_ | ok | 22:16 |
| ng_ | thanks again | 22:16 |
| zequence | ubuntustudio-audio is a meta package, meaning it doesn't contain anything. Just dependencies to lots of other packages | 22:16 |
| zequence | removing it won't uninstall the dependencies | 22:17 |
| zequence | and that doesn't matter, since none or very few of them are installed anyway, since KX packages have overridden them | 22:17 |
| zequence | That's usually the case with PPAs. You get newer versions, but they aren't apart of the supported Ubuntu release. | 22:18 |
| ng_ | yes I know, just wanted it to let me install it again | 22:18 |
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