[02:40] hi [02:40] anybody know anything about midi pianos? [02:41] yes [02:41] great. [02:41] i'm trying to set mine up in linux [02:41] with what interface? [02:41] I have no idea what i'm doing. [02:41] lol [02:41] infinitux: let me tell you how i set up my maudio keyboard, and maybe that will help [02:41] well i've been trying to get it to work with whatever i need [02:41] i plug it in [02:42] okay, i have an maudio oxygen 49 [02:42] i've gotten as far as seeing input from the keyboard [02:42] i have another USB midi controller that i use with other keyoards via midi, and this is how i set it up.. [02:42] i plug it in [02:42] if you need special firmware, i personally havent needed that, so i might not be much help [02:42] if I do: amidi -p hw:2,0,0 -d my piano shows input [02:42] you might get more help in #opensourcemusicians [02:43] cool holstein thanks [02:43] what do i do? [02:43] i plug it in, and i run jack.. i open something like yoshimi, and make connections in jack and test it [02:43] its very likely its all just working, and waiting to be properly connected [02:43] !info a2jmidid [02:43] a2jmidid (source: a2jmidid): Daemon for exposing legacy ALSA MIDI in JACK MIDI systems. In component universe, is extra. Version 8~dfsg0-1 (raring), package size 32 kB, installed size 118 kB [02:43] okay, that's what i'm trying to do but i'm failing because i don't know how to make the connections right [02:43] ^^ is handy, if needed [02:44] infinitux: you literally click and drag connections in JACK [02:44] !proaudio [02:44] For information on professional audio tools in Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudio/ProAudioIntro [02:44] thanks [02:45] it would be a nice starter to get lmms and rosegarden working [02:45] and mess with some different synth instruments [02:46] yeah [02:46] dont do that [02:47] just keep it simple [02:47] open literally the application i suggested.. yoshimi [02:47] use the keyboard from the menu to make sure the synth (yoshimi) is making sound [02:48] then, connect your keyboard to it (in JACK) and troubleshoot til that makes sound [02:48] *then*, you'll know how to run the 3 other things you are talking about [02:52] okay [02:52] that's a starter for me [02:52] thanks [02:54] okay i got yoshimi running [02:55] not getting and sound from the virkbd [02:55] then, you start with that [02:55] you dont have audio connected properly [02:55] can you help me connect it? [02:55] that's my issue [02:56] infinitux: you open jack, and draw a ling between the outputs of yoshimi and the inputs of your sound card [02:56] in connections under audio? [02:56] infinitux: "connect" [02:56] readable clients/output ports | writable clients / input ports [02:57] correct [02:57] yoshimi | system [02:57] and different tabs [02:57] okay [02:57] i usually suggest, hook everything to everything, til you sort out what is what [02:57] okay, now i have sound in virKbd [02:58] ok.. so you do the same sort of connecting in the alsa and/or midi tab [02:58] okay [02:58] if find yoshimi in one place and the keybaord in another, try a2jmidid [02:59] under midi i have: [02:59] readable clients / output ports | writable clients / input ports [02:59] infinitux: if you dont have both the keybaord and yoshimi, use a2jmidid [02:59] "Blank" | yoshimi -> midi in [02:59] the issue with sharing those with me is, they can be diffent for you hardware than for mine [02:59] and under ALSA: [03:00] so, i cant say "click this exact thing" [03:00] again, connect them *all* and test what is what [03:00] it literally wont hurt to run a2jmidid either.. you open a terminal and type that [03:01] i did install that [03:01] you have to run it [03:01] open a terminal and type that in [03:08] did that [03:09] that? [03:17] lol [03:17] ? [03:17] seems like i'm so close [03:17] i think so [03:17] i managed to get the audio piping to work between yoshimi and the sound device [03:18] yup.. thats a good step [03:18] and i can see my keyboard under alsa, but whatever i pipe it to has no sound [03:18] your keyboard is not capable of making sounds [03:18] yes i know [03:18] you pipe it to yoshimi [03:18] that's what i'm trying to do, but apparently i'm doing it wrong [03:18] OK.. just making sure [03:18] infinitux: take a screenie if you thing it'll help.. [03:18] !paste [03:18] For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [03:20] think i'll do that [03:21] think a2j isn't capturing the right device [03:21] if it were i could connect it to yoshimi and it would work [03:21] i just simply ran a2jmidid [03:21] with no parameters [03:22] right... you dot have to [03:22] it creates an entry you can pipe to the other tab [03:27] http://www.pasteall.org/pic/58135 and http://www.pasteall.org/pic/58136 and http://www.pasteall.org/pic/58137 [03:27] that shows the jack network [03:28] what am i doing wrong? [03:29] infinitux: the midi thru port.. pretty sure [03:30] in the "alsa" tab [03:30] okay [03:30] connect oxygen to midi through [03:30] oxygen to midi through? [03:30] then, in midi, connect midi trhough to yoshimi (or whatever) [03:31] there *is* an easier way, and i'll have someone show you.. but i forget it [03:31] but, that will work [03:32] i did all that, but it's still mute [03:32] I suck! [03:32] nah... [03:33] lol [03:37] relevant http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1401008 [03:41] kinda complicated! [03:41] your average joe couldn't figure this out [03:43] infinitux: its not necessarily "user friendly", but its worth it [03:43] and, there is an easier way, i just never learned it [03:47] :( [03:47] still no success [03:47] you'll get it.. just hang in #opensourcemusicians and ask [03:49] just a hunch, but maybe there is something wrong [03:49] it seems i'm making the connections right [03:49] maybe [03:49] i dont know if that particular maudio hardware actually works [03:50] it does [03:50] though, i thought it did [03:51] if I execute: amidi -p hw:2,0,0 -d I do see output from my midi piano when pressing keys [03:51] i know the piano works and the driver works [03:51] eh.. i believe it when i hear it [03:51] though, im sure you're right [03:52] anyways.. you'll get it.. you can always try #ardour, but i think the opensourcemsusicians channel is best.. hang here as long as you like as well [05:10] holstein: you still there? [21:37] Hi guys, Im having issues with jackd, the folks at #jack couldnt help me with this, they told me like im having more than one version installed [21:37] so the output of: sudo find / -name libjack\* is http://pastebin.com/3Q3GTbpH [21:40] ng_: Having two versions would have to mean you compiled jack aside from installing it [21:40] or you used a non official package to install another version of jack [21:40] or script, etc [21:40] Did you do any of those things, or you just installed using apt? [21:40] ng_: And also, have you added any PPAs that have jackd in them? [21:41] well, it is possible I dont rememeber right now, because I have ubuntu desktop with jack working, then I upgraded to ubuntu-studio to hadd realtime support [21:41] how did you upgrade? [21:42] and what is it that you don't remember? [21:42] I dont rememeber how I did install jack [21:42] could you do: ls /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ [21:42] ng_: I don't understand. You don't remember if you compiled your own jack, or installed it? [21:43] http://pastebin.com/ThNw9uiM [21:43] ng_: You don't have Ubuntu Studio. And you have tons of PPAs [21:43] ng_: Including the KXStudio PPA [21:44] ng_: Which means, it's not Ubuntu Studio you have installed [21:44] ng_: you could try #kxstudio [21:44] The KXStudio PPA overrides the packages normally installed with Ubuntu Studio [21:44] The only thing you have from Ubuntu Studio is the theme pretty much [21:44] really? I thought I have it because the splash screen says ubuntu-studio [21:45] Yes, that's the theming [21:45] The way jack is packaged in KXStudio is not the same as in Ubuntu Studio [21:46] The jack you have is not Ubuntu [21:46] and what is in Ubuntu Studio is the same as in Ubuntu. [21:46] apart from setting up realtime privilege, the only thing that differs between Ubuntu and UBuntu Studio is theming [21:46] all the packages are the same, as they are in the same repo [21:46] yes now that you mention I rememeber installing jack from kxstudio [21:46] but, KXStudio has its own packages [21:46] Well, of course you did [21:46] :) [21:47] Adding PPAs means you change the system [21:47] what If I just remove the PPa, apt-get pruge and then install them again? [21:47] No garantees [21:47] but you could ask someone at #kxstudio for help [21:48] ok [21:49] and what shall I do to get ubuntu studio ? [21:49] The best would be to do a fresh install [21:49] check http://ubuntustudio.org/download [21:50] mm [21:50] is there anyway to 'upgrade' ubuntu desktop to ubuntu-studio ? [21:52] like I did with the theme, but for audio or video ? [22:09] ng_: Sure. Install the meta packages [22:09] ng_: do: apt-cache search ubuntustudio [22:10] install the ones that you are interested in. I suppose -audio [22:10] And if you need low latency, install linux-lowlatency [22:10] you'll need to add yourself to audio groupt to get realtime privilege [22:10] sudo usermod -a -G audio $USER [22:10] $USER is an env variable. You can see what it stands for with: echo $USER [22:10] those are package names? [22:10] linux-lowlatency ? [22:11] linux-lowlatency is a package name yes [22:11] ubuntustudio-audio is another package name [22:11] says ubuntustudio-audio already installed [22:12] ng_: Well, yes. But you don't have a clean install of Ubuntu [22:12] ng_: You have a lot of stuff in that system [22:12] installing Ubuntu Studio metas is not going to remove KXStudio [22:13] as I told you before, KX repos override the Ubuntu ones [22:13] Ubuntu Studio == Ubuntu [22:13] yep Im also removing kxstudio right now [22:13] There's no guarantee the system will be right once you have done that [22:13] ppa purge should work for that [22:13] Yeah, but it won't remove the packages [22:13] and you can't uninstall them easily [22:14] plus you will most probably have some settings left that mess things up [22:14] As I said before - do a fresh install [22:14] that would be the easiest way [22:14] what if I ppa purge kxstudio, then apt-get purge ubuntustudio-audio, then apt-get intall ubuntustudio-audio [22:15] Well, whatever. It's your system :) [22:15] removing ubuntustudio-audio will only remove the meta. Not any packages [22:16] and you don't need to uninstall ubuntustudio packages [22:16] you need to get rid of KXStudio packages plus settings [22:16] not sure you'll be able to do that so easily, is what I'm saying [22:16] ok [22:16] thanks again [22:16] ubuntustudio-audio is a meta package, meaning it doesn't contain anything. Just dependencies to lots of other packages [22:17] removing it won't uninstall the dependencies [22:17] and that doesn't matter, since none or very few of them are installed anyway, since KX packages have overridden them [22:18] That's usually the case with PPAs. You get newer versions, but they aren't apart of the supported Ubuntu release. [22:18] yes I know, just wanted it to let me install it again