[01:02] <sensae> I'm trying to install Xubuntu on an x120e. The installer performs a GPT/UEFI installation, and when I reboot I get an "Operating System Not Found" error.
[01:03] <sensae> parted reports that the drive is gpt formatted, but 'does not have a valid fake msdos partition table, as it should'
[01:25] <kgb> sensae: this won? http://shop.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/thinkpad/x-series/x120e
[01:26] <sensae> kgb: yeah
[01:29] <kgb> err, do you RLY need it 2 be GPT? :-0
[01:31] <sensae> kgb: no, I could care less. I'm rebooting now trying a manual msdos partition layout
[01:31] <sensae> Looks like grub didn't install properly anyway
[01:31] <kgb> sensae: hang on
[01:31] <kgb> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI
[01:34] <kgb> *if it helps
[01:46] <sensae> kgb: was able to manually install grub and get the thing to boot in legacy mode finally.
[01:51] <kgb> sensae: nice! :-D
[01:51] <kgb> so, hopefully, after the updates..
[01:54] <kgb> sensae: just btw., teh 2 programs eye rly like (for GRUB, mostly): 'Boot Repair' && 'Grub Customizer' (both have PPAs)
[02:07] <sensae> kgb: cool, thanks.
[09:50] <olbi> hello guys, I want to help with writing posts on main Xubuntu sites, which sometimes isn't updated at time :)
[09:56] <bekks> And what help do you need with then?
[09:58] <didier1> Hello
[10:00] <didier> I can't find how I can update the speed of the wheel of my mouse. I found no parameters in the configuration panel. Did I miss something ?
[10:15] <crepito> hello. I'm thinking of installing xubuntu as my main OS. The question is regarding versions. My main purpose is to do development (c++,java,etc), watch movies and ocasionally play some steam games. I heard the compilers in lts are way older than in the new version. Am i better of with the LTS 12.04.3 or with the 13.04 release?
[10:17] <ui_> crepito: you should check case by case
[10:17] <ui_> e.g. gcc is 4.6.3 in precise and 4.7.3 in raring http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=gcc
[10:18] <ui_> openjdk-7-jdk is 7u25 in both http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=openjdk-7-jdk
[10:18] <crepito> i c. thanks
[10:18] <ui_> check in gcc 4.7's changelog whether there's something you need for your work http://gcc.gnu.org/gcc-4.7/changes.html
[10:18] <ui_> etc...
[11:09] <_potato_> anyone had experience installing xubuntu 13.04 on a macbook pro retina 15" ?
[11:09] <_potato_> ubuntu 13.04 installs fine, but xubuntu just gives me a blank screen with blinking cursor on first post-install boot
[11:11] <_potato_> i'm not using and boot options, nor installing any updates or drivers after installing the base system
[11:13] <_potato_> I'm not sure what the differences are between xubuntu and ubuntu in this case, or how I can get around them. Otherwise I will try to install xfce4 on top of the ubuntu version and see how I go
[11:14] <ui_> _potato_: you might want to install xubuntu-desktop, see http://askubuntu.com/questions/91380
[11:15] <ui_> _potato_: about the problem: if you are using GRUB, you could find some system messages by booting without the "splash" option
[11:16] <ui_> or something might have been logged under /var/log
[11:17] <_potato_> ui_: thanks. yep I will try install xubuntu-desktop on top of ubuntu.
[11:17] <_potato_> I'm not sure how to disable the "splash" option. I mostly just said "yes" to all the default installation options with xubuntu and ubuntu
[11:19] <ui_> to disable it, either press 'e' at the GRUB menu, then move to the 'linux' line, delete the splash word, and boot (if I recall correctly, with Ctrl+F10)
[11:20] <_potato_> oh I don't even get to see a grub menu
[11:20] <ui_> ... or boot a Live CD, chroot into the installed sytstem by following the official instructions, then sudo nano /etc/default/grub, delete the splash word, press Ctrl+O to sav and Ctrl+X to quit, and finally sudo update-grub
[11:20] <_potato_> after holding the 'option' key at boot, then selecting the xubuntu option instead of os x, i just get the blinking cursor
[11:21] <_potato_> oh yeah, good idea. I'll do that, thanks :)
[11:22] <_potato_> (btw, after installing ubuntu instead, I choose the ubuntu partition instead of os x, and it then gives the grub menu)
[12:54] <xubuntu677> what is the recommended system ram
[12:55] <bgardner> xubuntu677, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements
[13:01] <xubuntu677> thank you
[13:02] <xubuntu677> I Love Xubuntu
[13:04] <vice_> Hi! I need help with iPhone mount ;<
[13:05] <cfhowlett> ipod|vice_
[13:05] <cfhowlett> !ipod|vice_
[13:06] <vice_> Wow, thx
[13:40] <vice_> folks, sry, one more time
[13:41] <vice_> someone using banshee player for sync with iphone?
[13:41] <vice_> i fixed my question except music coppy
[13:41] <vice_> copy*
[13:41] <cfhowlett> vice_, you are aware that the good folks at Apple DELIBERATELY design their stuff so every upgrade breaks whatever hacks have been done in linux?
[13:42] <Wulfe> this is why i am an android guy
[13:42] <Wulfe> Apple is so proprietary
[13:43] <vice_> so the question is: how can i download all songs by banshee?
[13:43] <vice_> yep, i know all troubles of apple, but i cant use other devices right now
[13:43] <Wulfe> wish i knew buddy. wait long enough though someone will be able to tell you.
[13:43] <cfhowlett> vice_, well, if you were on android, airdroid would be the tool.  On apple ... good luck with that.  Might not be possible.
[13:44] <Wulfe> not to name drop but maybe the good folks in ##linux know it has some activity atm you could take advantage of.
[13:44] <vice_> I read much manuals, its possible, but i just cant understand how sync works
[13:45] <vice_> I just want to add a couple of songs
[13:45] <vice_> Without deleting current collection
[13:49] <vice_> Noone has an iPhone? I though its popular
[13:49] <vice_> Inlcuding unix community :)
[13:50] <cfhowlett> vice_, trying not to LOL, but if you had android, you'd be DONE.
[13:56] <vice_> i cant upload music while charging :<
[14:08] <olbi_> bekks: I need only account there :D
[14:36] <xubuntu111> hi, how can I use my side button for minimize a windoww in xubuntu ? It is Microsoft Intellimouse 4000 .. thx
[15:10] <luke___> Is this channel strictly support or is discussion encouraged when things are quiet?
[15:17] <Sysi> there's #xubuntu-offtopic for general chatter
[15:27] <luke___> Thanks!
[18:02] <vice_> hey guys, me again
[18:02] <vice_> All soft for iphone managment errors unsupported checksum type
[18:03] <vice_> How the hell can i upload files on my iphone?:<
[18:04] <pmjdebruijn> you're on 13.04?
[18:04] <vice_> yep
[18:04] <pmjdebruijn> define "all soft"?
[18:04] <pmjdebruijn> did you google for the error you got?
[18:04] <pmjdebruijn> since it's rather device specific
[18:04] <vice_> i tried: amarok, banshee, gtkpod, clementine, rhytmbox
[18:05] <pmjdebruijn> I guess they all depend on the same library for iDevice related stuff
[18:05] <vice_> i found 2 decisions but they didnt help me
[18:05] <pmjdebruijn> "decisions"?
[18:06] <vice_> ehm solution, sorry
[18:06]  * pmjdebruijn would guess it might have to do with libgpod
[18:06] <vice_> so please tell me what i have to do with libgpod
[18:06] <vice_> mkdir
[18:07] <pmjdebruijn> which seems to have stagnated in development
[18:07] <Viva_Nero> i think all the devs went to andriod
[18:07] <pmjdebruijn> you should probably get in touch with the gtkpod people
[18:08]  * pmjdebruijn doesn't own any iDevices, so I have little experience there
[18:08] <vice_> it must be at /usr/lib/ ?
[18:09] <pmjdebruijn> of course
[18:09] <pmjdebruijn> dpkg -L libgpod4
[18:09] <pmjdebruijn> but that will be fine
[18:09] <pmjdebruijn> it's probably a problem in the library itself, not how it is installed
[18:09] <pmjdebruijn> Apple's devices aren't particularly easy to support I guess
[18:10] <vice_> dpkg -L libgpod4
[18:10] <vice_> /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libgpod.so.4
[18:10] <pmjdebruijn> yes that's fine, and not really relevant
[18:11] <vice_> so it says that i dont have right file?
[18:11] <pmjdebruijn> huh?
[18:11] <pmjdebruijn> how do you figure that
[18:11] <vice_> I just assumed
[18:12] <pmjdebruijn> don't assume
[18:12] <pmjdebruijn> your library is just fine
[18:12] <pmjdebruijn> it's probably just a bug in the library
[18:12] <pmjdebruijn> nothing easy to do about that
[18:12] <vice_> is it possible to fix?
[18:13] <pmjdebruijn> easily, probably not
[18:13] <pmjdebruijn> but this is the wrong place to ask
[18:13] <vice_> ouch
[18:13] <vice_> which plays is correct?
[18:13] <vice_> place*
[18:13] <pmjdebruijn> you should try to get in contact with the gtkpod people, as they wrote the thing
[18:13] <vice_> ./join gtkpod doesnt work :<
[18:14] <pmjdebruijn> #gtkpod I'd guess of course
[18:14] <pmjdebruijn> vice_: anyhow checkt he gtkpod website for more information
[18:18] <vice_> they have inactive irc channel :(
[18:19] <pmjdebruijn> that happens
[18:19] <pmjdebruijn> people have to sleep you know
[18:19] <pmjdebruijn> patience is key
[18:21] <vice_> patience doesnt work when u have to fly away in 2 hours ;(
[18:22] <pmjdebruijn> heh
[18:22] <vice_> and only god knows how i hate flights
[18:22] <vice_> without music its like passive suicide
[18:22]  * peyam Offtopic in #xubuntu-offtopic
[18:27] <vice_> http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.ipod.gtkpod.user/2714
[18:27] <vice_> so it says 'fly without mucis'? did u correctly understand?
[18:27] <bekks> No. It says: "Use iTunes only."
[18:28] <vice_> its impossible to run itunes on xubuntu, isnt it?
[18:28] <bekks> Correct.
[18:28] <vice_> hmm
[18:28] <vice_> i cant believe that ubuntu cant work with IOS 6
[18:28] <vice_> it sounds dumb
[18:29] <pmjdebruijn> vice_: it's not like Apple makes it easy
[18:29] <pmjdebruijn> so they're to blame, if anybody
[18:29] <bekks> vice_: Blame it on Apple.
[18:30] <vice_> in my country iMac costs about 3000$
[18:30] <vice_> but iMac - thats realy difficult
[18:30] <vice_> difficult like manage iphone on ubuntu ;M
[18:30] <pmjdebruijn> not really relevant is it
[18:30] <vice_> okaay its banshee time
[18:30] <bekks> vice_: You dont need an Apple computer for iTunes. You need either Windows or MacOSX. And it is offtopic in here :)
[18:30] <pmjdebruijn> there are lot of music players on the market which should work just fine
[18:32] <vice_> which works fine with iPhone?
[18:32] <bekks> vice_: iTunes, basically.
[18:33] <vice_> bekks, i know, but i need other software, im pretty sure its possible
[18:34] <bekks> vice_: If you want a "possible" and "working" software, use iTunes. If you want a "man, I have to test this out and see if I can get it working" software - use whatever :)
[18:34] <vice_> bekks, i cant use iTunes, thats main problemm
[18:35] <vice_> iTunes that installed by POL cant see device
[18:35] <bekks> Whats "POL"?
[18:35] <vice_> (yes i checked that problemm at google)
[18:35] <vice_> PlayOnLinux
[18:36] <bekks> Forget PlayOnLinux. Install iTunes on a native Windows installation.
[18:36] <vice_> native Windows installation is a software or?
[18:37] <bekks> That means: Install Windows on your computer. Install iTunes on Windows.
[18:37] <vice_> Ehm i can emulate it
[18:37] <vice_> its impossible to install windows, i have something like allergic reaction on it
[18:37] <bekks> You have to install natively.
[18:38] <bekks> And its all offtopic in here.
[18:38] <pleia2> vice_: you may want to try askubuntu.com or ubuntuforums.org, it seems pretty clear no one here knows how to do this on Linux if it's possible
[18:39] <pleia2> (and as bekks says, getting quite off-topic as apple doesn't support this)
[18:47] <pmjdebruijn> this does make we wonder why many apps are still using gpod, instead of libimobiledevice
[18:48] <pmjdebruijn> oh wait
[18:48] <pmjdebruijn> they complement eachother
[18:48] <pmjdebruijn> so nevermind on that
[18:56] <xubuntu259> My wireless don't working anymore. The wi-fi is not enabled anymore. How can i fix it ? I dont know how this happens.
[18:58] <TheSheep> what did you do just before it stopped working?
[18:59] <xubuntu259> I used a unknow network. Later i turn of the computer and when i wake up next morning it is not working anymore.
[19:00] <xubuntu259> Now i use wired only.
[19:01] <TheSheep> I don't think using an unknown network would cause that
[19:02] <xubuntu259> I think the same. but i can not longer see networks. Only if i goto connect to hidden networks. but it will not connect.
[19:03] <xubuntu259> maybe the user of the other network go into my computer and make this change. i dont know.
[19:07] <TheSheep> !network
[19:13] <xubuntu259> Why is the wi-fi network meny gray ?
[20:33] <skorpio> hello, how can I reset xubuntu 12.04 to its original settings?
[20:35] <skorpio> i was using compiz with xfce and i think this might have caused some problems with suspend etc
[20:35] <ochosi> skorpio: depends on how far you want that to go, but creating a new user does that to some extent
[20:36] <skorpio> is it enough to uninstall compiz?
[20:37] <ochosi> it could be, it depends on what exactly causes the issue
[20:37] <ochosi> could also be the graphics driver
[20:37] <ochosi> or anything else
[20:37] <bekks> skorpio: It doesnt help at all, when you uninstall something.
[20:37] <bekks> That will not affect a single setting.
[20:37] <skorpio> than what do i have to do to make xfce fprget about compiz?
[20:38] <ochosi> to the worst you can do a clean install
[20:38] <skorpio> i think its because of compiz because on my other very same laptop xfce is suspending fine without compiz
[20:43] <skorpio> i have changed xfce4.session.xml
[20:43] <skorpio> does this affect suspend
[23:03] <arst> Reading around, it seems that vanilla ubuntu suports things like the ipod touch out of the box. Is it different for Xubuntu? Plugging in a gen 4 touch with iOS 4, nothing happens, and I see this in dmesg: http://sprunge.us/gDdU
[23:13] <ochosi> arst: depends on what kind of support you're looking for
[23:13] <ochosi> there are some music apps that support syncing, then there's gtkpod for syncing music and probably other stuff
[23:13] <ochosi> and then there's the basic filesystem access you get when you use thunar 1.6.x (from the xfce4.12 xubuntu-dev ppa)
[23:18] <arst> Well, the only thing I really need to happen is for my windows xp virtual machine under virtualbox to recognize it like it does other usb devices, and hopefully to have a way of backing up apps and music on the device or at least adding them to the windows itunes library before first syncing
[23:21] <ochosi> arst: i assume you've installed the vbox extensions from the vbox website?
[23:21] <arst> yeah
[23:21] <ochosi> then you have to add your ipod to the known devices
[23:21] <ochosi> in the vbox settings
[23:22] <arst> you mean in Settings > USB?
[23:22] <ochosi> then you start up your vbox, connect the ipod (prevent it from being mounted in linux)
[23:22] <ochosi> yes, there
[23:23] <ochosi> and then you might have to mount it manually from the devices-menu
[23:23] <arst> Yeah, well the problem there is that the system doesn't recognize the ipod :(
[23:23] <arst> there was no option in the USB place for the ipod
[23:23] <ochosi> the pastebin looks ok
[23:25] <arst> ochosi: I'm gonna start up virtualbox and look again; if I leave suddenly, it's because virtualbox brought down my system again, like it keeps doing.
[23:25] <ochosi> that doesn't sound like fun
[23:25] <arst> yeah
[23:25] <arst> Did't happen the last couple of times though
[23:25] <ochosi> if i'm not here anymore, it means i went to sleep ;)
[23:25] <arst> k
[23:31] <arst> ochosi: aaaand it happened again. However, it seems that windows is still unable to see the ipod
[23:35] <arst> lol
[23:35] <arst> ochosi: and again :/
[23:35] <arst> wish I knew why that was happening too
[23:43] <Viva_Nero> Is there a way to make a program lose mouse focus?
[23:46] <David-A> Viva_Nero: most simply, you can click another window with the mouse, but guessing you dont mean that. with xdotool you can specify than another window should have focus, but not sure this solves your problem. what is your problem?
[23:48] <Psil0Cybin> hey guys i have a question when i randomly start up my laptop sometimes itXubuntu boots into terminal instead of the GUI. How can i attempt to diagnose the problem
[23:48] <Psil0Cybin> it only happens randomly
[23:48] <Psil0Cybin> like after 5 restarts it will happen once
[23:49] <Psil0Cybin> and i have to do startxfce4 or restart to get it to boot the GUI again
[23:49] <Viva_Nero> the cursor gets stuck inside the window, even when it's visible instead of hidden
[23:49] <Viva_Nero> but it needs to hold the cursor sometimes, cause when it's hidden the mouse is used to control steering
[23:51] <Viva_Nero> stuck inside as I can't get to the frame or title bar of it even
[23:51] <David-A> Viva_Nero: is this when running a game?