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| * barry waves | 15:00 | |
| * tumbleweed is here to chair a DMB meeting, if we do one | 15:06 | |
| tumbleweed | but it sounds like we have nothing to dicuss | 15:06 |
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| tumbleweed | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DeveloperMembershipBoard/Agenda | 15:06 |
| barry | i'm happy skipping it | 15:06 |
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| jdstrand | hi! | 16:31 |
| jdstrand | #startmeeting | 16:31 |
| meetingology | Meeting started Mon Aug 26 16:32:03 2013 UTC. The chair is jdstrand. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. | 16:31 |
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| jdstrand | The meeting agenda can be found at: | 16:31 |
| jdstrand | [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/Meeting | 16:31 |
| jdstrand | [TOPIC] Weekly stand-up report | 16:33 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Weekly stand-up report | ||
| jdstrand | I'll go first | 16:33 |
| jdstrand | I'm on triage this week | 16:33 |
| jdstrand | I have several pending updates I'm working on | 16:33 |
| jdstrand | I plan to test/sponsor tyhicks' saucy uploads this week | 16:34 |
| jdstrand | I have a couple of august work items to do | 16:34 |
| jdstrand | and participate in vUDS | 16:34 |
| jdstrand | mdeslaur is not here today. sbeattie, you're up | 16:34 |
| sbeattie | I'm again working on apparmor testing this week, looking at IPC issues | 16:35 |
| sbeattie | I need to review work items, and make sure I don't have anything outstanding | 16:35 |
| sbeattie | as well as attend vUDS. | 16:35 |
| sbeattie | that's it for me, tyhicks? | 16:36 |
| jdstrand | sbeattie: how is the IPC testing going? | 16:36 |
| sbeattie | slow | 16:36 |
| sbeattie | making progress but slow. | 16:36 |
| jdstrand | sbeattie: you have one work item for august that I left for you. please focus on IPC | 16:37 |
| sbeattie | jdstrand: okay, will do | 16:37 |
| tyhicks | sbeattie: are you writing tests? if so, do you plan on incorporating the simplified socketpair() testcase that I wrote last week? | 16:37 |
| tyhicks | (or should I do that?) | 16:37 |
| jdstrand | sbeattie: it is the device-specific accesses. I may try to do soemthing with that, but will likely want to discuss it with you | 16:37 |
| sbeattie | tyhicks: yeah, I can take that. | 16:37 |
| jdstrand | might just postpone the work item. we'll see | 16:37 |
| jdstrand | tyhicks: please proceed | 16:38 |
| jdstrand | (with your status update) | 16:38 |
| tyhicks | I'll be handing jdstrand a couple debdiffs and test results for saucy uploads this morning | 16:38 |
| jdstrand | \o/ | 16:39 |
| tyhicks | there's still one known bug in dbus, around how we're handling eavesdropping, I'll be working on fixing this this week | 16:39 |
| tyhicks | then I'll probably take a look at the 'update apparmor_parser to add v3 open rules to v2 policy' work item | 16:40 |
| tyhicks | I also need to spend a little time getting ecryptfs ready for the next merge window | 16:41 |
| jdstrand | tyhicks: so, you addressed the dbus rules in abstractions issue with the tools? | 16:41 |
| tyhicks | and I need to test jj's fix for a socketpair() labeling bug that I came across last week | 16:41 |
| tyhicks | jdstrand: yes - I need to send that patch out to the list | 16:41 |
| tyhicks | jdstrand: apparmor - 2.8.0-0ubuntu24+dbusdev4 contains the fix | 16:42 |
| jdstrand | tyhicks: iirc, there were some test-dbus.py failures. is that the socketpair() issue? | 16:43 |
| tyhicks | jdstrand: that was one issue | 16:44 |
| jdstrand | ok, let's back up | 16:44 |
| tyhicks | ok | 16:44 |
| jdstrand | tyhicks: you are going to give me pacakges to upload. it sounds like there are bugs that are known to exist. what are they? | 16:44 |
| tyhicks | jdstrand: the known bug remaining is around eavesdropping | 16:45 |
| tyhicks | jdstrand: when we grant permissions in policy, we imply some permissions | 16:45 |
| tyhicks | jdstrand: so when you have permission to send a message, you implicitly have permissions to receive a method_return or error message from the peer that you can send a message to | 16:46 |
| tyhicks | jdstrand: our short-circuit code in dbus to allow the method_return or error messages to slip through is too loose | 16:46 |
| jdstrand | I see | 16:47 |
| tyhicks | jdstrand: it also allows eavesdroppers to see those messages | 16:47 |
| jdstrand | so no problem uploading to saucy. we'll just fix that in the next upload | 16:47 |
| tyhicks | exactly | 16:47 |
| tyhicks | the only time that someone would see it is if they used dbus-monitor | 16:47 |
| tyhicks | it is a very important bug to fix, but it doesn't affect day to day use | 16:48 |
| jdstrand | yes | 16:48 |
| jdstrand | tyhicks: ok, I'm done. please proceed :) | 16:48 |
| tyhicks | I think that's it for me | 16:48 |
| tyhicks | jjohansen: you're up | 16:48 |
| jjohansen | I'm working on apparmor this week, specifically the ipc work items | 16:49 |
| jdstrand | tyhicks: btw, after we upload to saucy, can you file a bug on the eavesdropping issue? | 16:50 |
| tyhicks | jdstrand: yes | 16:50 |
| jdstrand | jjohansen: sorry for interrupting | 16:51 |
| jjohansen | jdstrand: heh thats fine | 16:52 |
| * jjohansen will coordinate with tyhicks and sbeattie to get more testing of a couple of fixes I pushed out last week | 16:53 | |
| jjohansen | I'll dump a bunch of kernel and parser patches for sarnold to review | 16:53 |
| jjohansen | hrmmm, I have some compatibility patches to update for 3.10, and 3.11 but some how I don't think I will get to that this week | 16:55 |
| jjohansen | to preempt jdstrand's question on how ipc is going, its slow once I get a major crash bug fixed we should be able to start playing with several parts of it this week | 16:56 |
| jdstrand | well, I wasn't going to ask this week-- you only worked last friday :) | 16:57 |
| jjohansen | that is other people can start playing with | 16:57 |
| jdstrand | jjohansen: but thanks! that sounds agreat :) | 16:57 |
| jjohansen | oh? I did? | 16:57 |
| jdstrand | jjohansen: ok, I was only aware that you worked one day last week | 16:57 |
| jdstrand | jjohansen is a sneaky one | 16:58 |
| jjohansen | vacation was last week? sigh that is so depressing | 16:58 |
| sarnold | take two they're small | 16:58 |
| jjohansen | alright so it feels like Its been a few weeks since vacation, anyways thats it for me sarnold your up | 16:59 |
| sarnold | I'm on community this week | 16:59 |
| sarnold | I'm also on MIR duty this week, I'm the blocker for six or seven audits. | 17:00 |
| sarnold | and I've got an apparmor parser patch to prepare for SRU for precise, the features buffer size problem -- and I'm curious if I should prepare packages for all releases or just precise, which is the current problem for kernel team preparing saucy-on-precise LTS kernels.. | 17:01 |
| jjohansen | sarnold: precise is the important one | 17:01 |
| sarnold | jjohansen: okay, sounds good to me :) | 17:02 |
| sarnold | will any saucy-kernel installed on precise poke the problem? | 17:02 |
| jjohansen | sarnold: if you find yourself without something to do poking the other releases would be nice | 17:02 |
| jjohansen | sarnold: yes it will | 17:03 |
| sarnold | jjohansen: oh I don't think I'll be in that position this week, feature freeze is soon and I owe a lot of people ACKs or NACKs on MIRs.. | 17:03 |
| sarnold | jjohansen: cool. thanks :) | 17:03 |
| jjohansen | err, that is any saucy kernel after the alpha4 apparmor sync, so all future saucy kernels | 17:04 |
| sarnold | jjohansen: would e.g. 3.11.0-3.8 do the job? | 17:05 |
| jjohansen | sarnold: yes that kernel will cause things to fail nicely | 17:06 |
| sarnold | jjohansen: woot! \o/ | 17:06 |
| sarnold | okay, I think that's me finished, and chrisccoulson has time'd out, so jdstrand, back to you | 17:07 |
| jdstrand | thanks, sorry, got pulled aside | 17:13 |
| jdstrand | [TOPIC] Highlighted packages | 17:13 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Highlighted packages | ||
| jdstrand | The Ubuntu Security team will highlight some community-supported packages that might be good candidates for updating and or triaging. If you would like to help Ubuntu and not sure where to start, this is a great way to do so. | 17:13 |
| jdstrand | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/UpdateProcedures for details and if you have any questions, feel free to ask in #ubuntu-security. To find out other ways of helping out, please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/GettingInvolved. | 17:13 |
| jdstrand | normally at this point I would provide a list of packages, but python-apt broke UCT so I don't have them atm. | 17:14 |
| jdstrand | I will update https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/HighlightedPackages once I fix that | 17:14 |
| jdstrand | [TOPIC] Miscellaneous and Questions | 17:14 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Miscellaneous and Questions | ||
| jdstrand | Does anyone have any other questions or items to discuss? | 17:14 |
| jdstrand | sbeattie, tyhicks, jjohansen, sarnold: thanks! | 17:24 |
| jdstrand | #endmeeting | 17:24 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendar | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | ||
| meetingology | Meeting ended Mon Aug 26 17:24:46 2013 UTC. | 17:24 |
| meetingology | Minutes (wiki): http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2013/ubuntu-meeting.2013-08-26-16.32.moin.txt | 17:24 |
| meetingology | Minutes (html): http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2013/ubuntu-meeting.2013-08-26-16.32.html | 17:24 |
| tyhicks | thanks! | 17:24 |
| jjohansen | thanks jdstrand | 17:24 |
| sarnold | thanks jdstrand! :) | 17:24 |
| sbeattie | thanks, jdstrand | 17:25 |
| soren | o/ | 19:59 |
| * soren checks calendar | 20:00 | |
| soren | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TechnicalBoardAgenda is fairly out-of-date (very likely my fault), but today should be a meeting day. | 20:01 |
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| stgraber | soren: 2013-08-05 + 2 weeks == 2013-08-19 (last week) + 2 weeks == 2013-09-02 (next week) | 20:27 |
| soren | stgraber: Your arithmetic is impeccable. | 20:40 |
| soren | stgraber: Unlike mine. | 20:40 |
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