[00:25] <TJ-> tgm4883: see http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux/  ... or for out-of-support packages, http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux/
[00:27] <tgm4883> TJ-, TheLordOfTime 12.04. It's not on either of those sites, although I found it on the kernel team PPA. I'm going to attempt using a newer version and seeing if that will resolve the issue I'm having
[00:27] <tgm4883> if not, I'll attempt the one from the PPA
[00:27] <TheLordOfTime> tgm4883, i was going to link you to the archive for it
[00:27] <TheLordOfTime> because i believe i could get those packages
[00:30] <TheLordOfTime> tgm4883, but why do you specifically need the linux-image-server package?
[00:30] <TheLordOfTime> i don't think there's a server-specific image now, but I might be wrong...
[00:30] <tgm4883> TheLordOfTime, not necessarily the server package, but that particular version number
[00:31] <tgm4883> I've got a test server and a production server. The test server works fine, but the production server doesn't work quite right when it comes to backing up the virtual machine, so I'm trying to make it identical to the test server (the previous admin didn't do that)
[00:33] <Patrickdk_> exactly, how do you backup the machine?
[00:34] <tgm4883> Patrickdk_, using a windows program called vm explorer. It uses the vmware API to backup the machine
[00:35] <TJ-> tgm4883: https://launchpad.net/~canonical-kernel-team/+archive/ppa/+sourcepub/3248693/+listing-archive-extra
[00:35] <tgm4883> TJ-, awesome, I'll grab that. Thanks
[00:35] <Patrickdk_> funny, vmware has no backup api, only a cbl
[00:36] <tgm4883> Patrickdk_, we use this http://www.trilead.com/
[00:36] <Patrickdk_> ya, looking, I use veeam
[01:48] <dassouki> looking for a document collab and task management CMS of some sort for a group of 10 folks .. low budget so FOSS is ideal
[01:54] <soy_el_pulpo> dassouki: we are using asana, I think is free for less than 10
[01:55] <dassouki> ok
[01:55] <dassouki> does it include document sharing? and task management?
[01:56] <soy_el_pulpo> you can add documents to the proyects...
[01:56] <soy_el_pulpo> up to 15 users is free..
[01:56] <soy_el_pulpo> the good thing is that it has iOS and android app to keep you working on the road, they work very nicely
[01:56] <dassouki> does it work on the ipad you know?
[01:57] <soy_el_pulpo> documents per project, photos, etc...
[01:57] <soy_el_pulpo> we spent so much time looking for something...
[01:57] <soy_el_pulpo> also we tried social office form Liferay that I also liked, but my team has old-fashion people that cannot use "modern" tools very well... jeje
[01:58] <soy_el_pulpo> dassouki: take a look to it...
[01:58] <soy_el_pulpo> msg dassouki
[15:25] <zul> is there a python way of determining number of cpu threads?
[16:16] <brendan-> is there a way to find out when a specific package was added to the repos?
[16:16] <brendan-> http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/libssl1.0.0
[16:17] <brendan-> im building a debian package to for ruby & there's a dependency for libssl0.9.8 according to the script i came across, but im not sure if that dependency was as a result of when it was created (about 1yr ago) or for another reason
[16:19] <FunnyLookinHat> Hey guys - is there a reason that apache2-mpm-prefork is still the default?  I had thought that worker was the best means to take advantage of modern hardware ?
[16:22] <TJ-> FunnyLookinHat: Good question; it's down to PHP and some of the libraries it depends on not being thread-safe, but I've not been able to find a list of the supposedly unsafe libraries
[16:22] <FunnyLookinHat> Yeah - that's what I thought.
[16:22] <FunnyLookinHat> I asked in #httpd and got the usual "use worker but don't use mod_php" - which is more or less a PITA
[16:29] <TJ-> I installed php5 on a new 13.10 apache 2.4 install and it replace worker with prefork. I quickly reversed that, switched to event, and installed php5-fpm
[16:35] <patdk-wk> and?
[16:35] <patdk-wk> you should have install php5-fpm first, instead of plain php5
[16:35] <patdk-wk> plain php5 defaults to mod_php
[16:41] <ivoks> zul: there is
[16:41] <ivoks> zul: i remember doing that for one project
[16:41] <zul> ivoks:  cpu threads?
[16:42] <ivoks> give me a second to check, it was long long time ago
[16:43] <ivoks> multiprocessing.cpu_count()
[16:43] <ivoks> ah, just the number of cpus
[16:43] <ivoks> zul: ^
[16:45] <zul> ivoks:  yeah thats what i used ;)
[16:46] <TJ-> zul: ivoks: wouldn't a simple read of /proc/cpuinfo and then look at "siblings" and "cpu cores"?  see http://www.richweb.com/cpu_info
[16:47] <zul> TJ-:  thanks
[16:50] <TJ-> zul: also, look for the "ht" flag
[17:21] <Serhad> hey volks
[17:22] <Serhad> I got a question to commerce? How can I create a ney payment method like paying if the guy pick the product at my office
[17:22] <Serhad> ney = new
[17:22] <yolanda> jamespage, zuul https://code.launchpad.net/~yolanda.robla/horizon/autokpgtests/+merge/182168
[17:22] <yolanda> sorry, zul.. . that's consequence of my CI work :)
[17:27] <jamespage> yolanda, comments on MP
[17:29] <yolanda> jamespage ok, i'll fix t
[17:32] <Serhad> sorry wrong chat...
[17:37] <yolanda> jamespage, updated mp
[21:37] <kurt_> how does one install the software in a bzr branch once its downloaded?
[21:38] <sarnold> kurt_: depends upon the software in question; bzr is just a source control system similar to git, mercurial, subversion, bitkeeper, perforce, etc.
[21:39] <kurt_> sarnold: I'm trying to install juju 1.12
[21:39] <kurt_> :)
[21:39] <sarnold> kurt_: aha! :) can you use their ppa? that will provide you with precompiled packages for several distributions and architectures and save you the hassle of building it yourself
[21:40] <kurt_> I could, sure… more googling ha ha
[21:40] <sarnold> kurt_: that'd be the add-apt-repository and following command here: https://juju.ubuntu.com/docs/
[21:44] <kurt_> sarnold: too easy thanks.  seems this version doesn't support --version flag or -version flg
[21:44] <sarnold> kurt_: try just "juju version"?
[21:44] <sarnold> I've got a vague memory that something there was a bit goofy
[21:44] <kurt_> :) duh
[21:44] <kurt_> 1.12.0-quantal-amd64
[21:44] <kurt_> perfect!
[21:45] <kurt_> thank you sir
[21:45] <sarnold> woo, back to fighting your fight :) good luck! hehe
[21:45] <kurt_> yes indeed.  I'm sure you've been reading on juju list…. her hee
[21:46] <sarnold> kurt_: just irc, I try to not subscribe to too many lists, it's an easy wya to lose hours every day :)
[21:46] <kurt_> indeed and understood.  I appreciate your help. :)
[22:28] <koolhead17> hi all
[22:29] <arooni-mobile> trying to install nginx on ubuntu 12.04;  i have previously installed from source in /opt/nginx when running an older version of ubuntu.  how can i install correctly?  when i do sudo apt-get install nginx i see this https://gist.github.com/arooni/d27e1b6cc6443fcf4a4b
[22:34] <sarnold> arooni-mobile: yikes you've got a good problem there to solve. echo $PATH as root will probably give you different results than the actual environment that apt-get was executed with. try this instead: sudo env
[22:34] <arooni-mobile> sarnold, what about adding /sbin to roots path?
[22:35] <sarnold> arooni-mobile: ooh, note this too: "...chasetoys/.bashrc:10:PATH=/bin:/usr/bin:..."
[22:35] <arooni-mobile> sarnold, i updated root's path to add /sbin ... but doesnt seem to make a difference
[22:35] <sarnold> arooni-mobile: whatever you've currently got is also scribbling over the path you've got
[22:35] <arooni-mobile> sarnold, should i get rid of my users path additions?
[22:36] <sarnold> arooni-mobile: you should at least inspect them to make sure they make sense
[22:36] <arooni-mobile> havent messed with them for awhile
[22:36] <sarnold> arooni-mobile: I personally would be terrified to have a user's home directory contents in root's PATH anywhere, but that might be difficult to fix.
[22:37] <arooni-mobile> sarnold, i think i just copied thie bashrc file from my home laptop
[22:38] <arooni-mobile> the only thing i need is the ruby gem stuff
[22:39] <arooni-mobile> sarnold, i commented out all that stuff modfiying the $PATH