/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2013/08/26/#ubuntu-za.txt

theblazehenhello theblazesbot05:38
not_found>.>05:43
theblazehenlol05:43
theblazehenHe's not working05:43
Kilosmorning peeps05:46
theblazesbotomega i hate your nick, autocomplete wont work05:46
Kiloshi theblazehen 05:46
theblazehenhi kilos05:46
theblazehenhi theblazesbot05:47
Kiloswho's nick05:47
theblazehenBad bot! Don't be stupid!05:47
Kiloslol05:47
Kiloshi barrydk 05:47
not_found:)05:47
barrydkGood morning everyone05:47
Kilosyo not_found 05:47
theblazehenhello theblazesbot05:47
Kilostheblazehen, what bot is it05:48
theblazehen"Attempt to chat" bot05:48
Kilosoh not an ibid05:48
theblazehennope05:48
theblazehenDamn, this looks nice! http://i.imgur.com/eB9D1xE.png05:49
Kilosdont play here too much with bots , the bosses moan05:49
theblazehenyeah05:49
not_foundalo uncle Kilos05:49
theblazehenhe don't wanna join #test :(05:49
Kilosdont you have to start with the bots name05:57
theblazesbotwas wondering why my old cloak wasn't showing on /whois05:57
theblazehennope05:57
theblazehenI think the creativity is set too high05:57
theblazehen!part #ubuntu-za05:58
theblazehen!theblazesbot part #ubuntu-za05:58
theblazesbottheblazehen, im literally going deaf05:58
theblazehenWell put on your hearing aid and gtfo theblazesbot!05:58
theblazesbottheblazehen, adran, we really don't care about your personal opinions05:59
theblazehentheblazesbot :(05:59
not_foundlol06:11
Kiloshehe shame the young uns06:12
magespawngood morning06:22
Kiloshi magespawn 06:22
magespawnhow are things?06:23
Kilosgreat ty and there06:23
Kiloseverything is working06:23
magespawnawesome stuff, warm and sunny and everything is working06:25
Kilosgreat06:25
inetprogood morning06:49
Kilosmorning inetpro 06:49
not_foundJonathan Carter... anyone here know him?06:53
Kilosya he was here when i started06:53
inetpronot_found: why?06:53
Kilosname rings a bell, why?06:53
Kiloshiya maiatoday 06:54
not_foundah just very active in Linux land and he is from SA... was staying in Canada but now back in SA06:54
Trixar_zaProbably because it's from the Baroom series06:54
magespawnhighvoltage?06:54
Trixar_zaAka John Carter06:54
Trixar_za:P06:54
Kilosyeah06:54
Kilosthis is his channel methinks06:54
not_foundah very possible (I think I did ask many moons ago)06:55
Kilosinetpro, hey?06:55
Trixar_zaI haven't seen highvoltage in years06:55
Kilosi always used to lo highvoltage him06:55
Kilosah he is back here06:56
not_foundwell seeing as he is back on SA soil time to get him here again :p06:56
not_foundhttp://jonathancarter.org/2013/08/25/still-alive/06:56
Kilosthe pro knows what other channels he is on methinks06:56
magespawnMaaz seen highvoltage06:57
Maazmagespawn: highvoltage was last seen 4 months, 9 days, 12 hours, 23 minutes and 16 seconds ago in #ubuntu-za on freenode [2013-04-18 20:33:57 SAST], and has been offline on freenode since 2013-04-23 14:35:02 SAST06:57
inetpronot_found: you'll find highvoltage in #ubuntu-meeting or other channels 06:57
inetproeven #kubuntu-devel06:58
Kilosi go feed sheep06:58
Kilosis that better magespawn ?06:58
not_foundinetpro:k cool06:59
KilosMaaz, coffee on07:12
* Maaz starts grinding coffee07:12
maiatodayHi Kilos07:13
maiatodaymagespawn, I got the info on the ubuntu server book, but it seems that the files are for the person that registered the account only. Not really very useful at all. It basically forces me to hog the book or pass it along illegally.07:14
maiatodayI am still hoping we'll get the print copy in which case we can pass it around.07:14
magespawnty for the info maiatoday07:16
magespawnironic really, where are they selling the book?07:16
MaazCoffee's ready for Kilos!07:16
KilosMaaz, ty07:17
MaazYou are welcome Kilos07:17
Kiloscocooncrash, thanks alot07:17
not_foundwell with the special that they had on the Ubuntu books I am sure any who was serious on having it could have gotten one...07:24
Kiloshi Vince-0 07:30
Vince-0Hi Kilos! Ever vigilant 07:31
Kiloshehe07:32
Squirmhi07:33
Vince-0Squirm, !07:33
* Squirm raises an eyebrow at Vince-0 07:35
SquirmI wish more people were excited to see me :P07:35
Kiloshi Squirm 07:39
Kilosill always greet you. you got my first mxit going on pidgin07:40
Squirmhaha07:40
SquirmI still have mxit connected to Pidgin07:40
Kilosme too07:40
Kilosbut now its not such a schlep to get working07:41
Squirmnot that i chat to anyone there07:41
Kilosi chat family there07:41
Kiloseish just more and more to learn all the time07:43
Kiloshttp://dsl.org/cookbook/07:43
not_found:)07:45
Trixar_zaMaybe I should try my hand at writing one considering books like that sell07:47
Kilosbusiness is business07:48
Kilosone needs to use knowledge to make an income07:48
magespawnhttp://www.informit.com/promotions/promotion.aspx?promo=1393626 for those who are interested07:49
Kiloshey Trixar_za are there lekker repos and all for slitaz or is it hard to use for beginners07:49
Trixar_zaMy trouble is normally that I assume people at least have a competence in it. Most writers of those books assume the person knows nothing more than Windows.07:49
Kilostry write stuff with no pc knowledge07:50
Trixar_zaWe have a ever increasing repo, so it's not too bad. Just creating a stable Linux that can use it is half the problem07:50
not_foundI see the promotion has ended07:50
Kilosok lemme know when you have it done07:50
Trixar_zaBut it's a long story. The short version is that one day there was somebody that tried to change too much and ended up leaving a lot of things broken. Then he quit the project.07:51
magespawnah well not_found07:51
magespawni got the link from here http://ubuntu-discourse.org/t/official-ubuntu-server-book-3d-edition-now-available/935/207:51
not_foundbut it was a good one while it lasted :p07:51
Kiloshey magespawn fixing things at times can make one very tired because it opens other avenues07:51
not_foundI meant to mail it on the mailing list and it just dawned on me I had forgotten :/07:52
magespawnno worries not_found07:52
Kiloslike now maybe the 160g drive that only takes 7 now might be ok07:52
magespawnyes it does Kilos07:52
Trixar_zaHmmm07:52
Trixar_zaThat book came out in 2004 @ Kilos07:52
magespawnalways looking at why things happen07:52
Kilosthey were all crashing with 12.04 and evolution installed07:53
Kilossince purging evo i have had no probs on kde or unity07:53
Trixar_zaoo, Linux Pocket Guide looks good07:58
Kiloslol ya first book i downloaded07:58
KilosMaaz, define GNU07:59
MaazKilos: Gnu \Gnu\, n. [Hottentot gnu, or nju: cf. F. gnou.] (Zool.) One of two species of large South African antelopes of the genus {Catoblephas}, having a mane and bushy tail, and curved horns in both sexes. [Written also {gnoo}.] [1913 Webster]  Note: The common gnu or wildebeest ({Catoblephas gnu}) is plain brown; the brindled gnu or blue wildebeest ({C.07:59
Maazgorgon}) is larger, with transverse stripes of black on the neck and shoulders. [1913 Webster], …07:59
Kilosai!08:00
Kiloswhere do them wild cows fit in to using cli?08:00
* not_found will be back later08:01
Trixar_zaGNU Not Unix08:01
Kilosoh is that same as linux is from unix08:01
Kilosor is gnu linux08:02
magespawni have to go out, bbl08:04
Kilosgo safe08:04
Kilosah GNU/Linux Command-Line 08:06
Kiloshi psyatw 08:06
psyatwhi Kilos08:06
superflygoo afternoon08:07
superfly*good08:07
Kilosyo superfly 08:08
psyatwhi superfly08:09
inetprogood morning superfly08:10
inetproKilos: GNU is a recursive acronym for "GNU's Not Unix!", chosen because GNU's design is Unix-like, but differs from Unix by being free software and containing no Unix code.08:11
Kiloshi ThatGraemeGuy 08:11
Kilosty inetpro 08:11
inetproDevelopment of GNU was initiated by Richard Stallman in 1983 and was the original focus of the Free Software Foundation (FSF), but no stable release of GNU yet exists as of May 2013.08:12
Trixar_zaInteresting thing is that we can have completely non-gnu linuxes08:12
Trixar_za:P08:12
Kilosai!08:12
Trixar_zaBut you still have to build them using gcc which is ironic08:13
Trixar_zaWhich is why I want to ask Richard Stallman that question08:13
Trixar_zaIs it still a GNU/Linux if no part of the end product is made by GNU?08:14
psyatwhi inetpro08:14
psyatwhi Trixar_za08:14
inetprohi psyatw08:14
KilosTrixar_za, what are your pcs specs08:14
superflyTrixar_za: indeed08:15
Kilosas in a wanna try it on an old p308:15
Trixar_zaPretty low. PIII 1,1GHz PC with 256MB RAM of which 16/32 MB is used for Video08:15
Kiloshmm...08:16
Kilosmethinks my p3 is only 450m08:16
Kilosbut runs maverick fine08:18
Trixar_zaMhz?08:21
Trixar_zahow much ram?08:21
Kilosyeah08:21
Kilos640m08:21
Trixar_zaThen it should run fine08:22
Kilosty08:22
Trixar_zaShould be fine for newer kernel versions too considering that most distros are moving to i686 (meaning PIII is the minimum)08:23
Trixar_zaMight be a little slower with processor intensive stuff though08:23
Kilosya maverick also is a bit slow with things but still works08:25
Kilosand does it come with a network manager or must one use sakis3g08:26
Trixar_zaSliTaz? It still needs sakis3g, but my custom package @ http://www.trixarian.net/SliTaz08:27
Kilosseeing you are building from scratch cant you build sakis into it08:28
Kilosexcuse stupid questions08:28
Trixar_zaThat's the plan08:28
Kilosaha08:28
Trixar_zaI also want to include that one network manager08:28
Kilosits good when a pc goes online from bootup without having to open the tool08:30
Trixar_zahttps://connman.net/08:31
Trixar_zaI want to make that the connection manager08:31
Kiloscool08:31
Kilosi looked at connman when i was struggling here08:32
Kilosi see you have xchat but what about pidgin?08:35
Trixar_zaPidgin is in the official package repository08:36
Trixar_zaMy package just adds scripting support to xchat08:36
Kilosah thats good08:36
Trixar_zaWell, for TCL and Python scripts08:37
Trixar_zacan't get the perl ones to work08:37
Trixar_za:P08:37
Trixar_zaI'm considering a Qt based desktop at the moment08:37
Trixar_zahttps://github.com/Razor-qt/razor-qt/wiki/3rd-party-applications <--- pretty08:37
Kilosas long as vlc can work too08:39
Trixar_zaVLC is Qt based08:40
ThatGraemeGuyoh hi08:40
Trixar_zabbl08:50
Kiloshi Cantide 10:38
Cantidehello :)10:39
Cantidei think i am a little early for the meeting >_>10:39
Kiloshaha10:39
magespawno/ Cantide not so you would notice10:42
not_found:)10:44
Cantide\o10:45
Kilostwit,10:46
Kilosjust as well we exporting him10:46
Cantide'o'10:46
Cantidei might be exported quite soon '-';;10:46
Kiloswhats news?10:47
Cantidelooks like i will work in Yeouido, Seoul starting in October10:47
Cantidethe employer was supposed to email me some further details today but didn't -_-10:47
Kilosnice coupla months then10:47
Cantideso now i have to wait until tomorrow to know more10:47
Kilosoh no10:47
Cantidewell, i'll need to get there in 4 or 5 weeks10:48
Cantideso not really much time10:48
Kilosgreat10:48
Cantideassuming all goes to plan10:48
Cantideyeah :)10:48
CantideYeouido is a nice place, too :)10:48
Kilosat least there someone will understand your quit message10:49
Cantidehttp://conradhotels3.hilton.com/resources/media/ch/SELCICI/en_US/img/shared/full_page_image_gallery/main/CN_extandyeouido_8_700x525_FitToBoxSmallDimension_Center.jpg10:49
Cantideoh, what is my quit message? lol10:49
Kilosdunno weird squigles10:49
Cantideoh~10:50
Cantideit's 시작이 반이다10:50
Kilosya that10:50
Cantidewhich is a saying..10:50
Cantideit means something like "getting started is half the work"10:50
Kilosmust you read it backwards or upside down10:50
Cantidenope :p10:51
Kiloshehe10:51
Cantide"well begun is half done"10:51
Kilosah10:51
Cantide:)10:51
Cantideit's pronounced like so - shijaki banida10:52
Kiloswhew10:52
Kiloshow do they make them sounds out of gibberish10:53
Cantidehahaha10:53
Cantidemore logically than English actually10:53
* not_found will be back in time for the meeting hopefully...10:53
Kiloshmm... ms ceo retires/resigns?11:48
Kilosdid i hear wrong11:49
magespawnnope but only in 12 months i think11:54
Kilosah11:54
SilverCodeMS stocked rose 7.5% with the news as well11:59
Kiloslol11:59
SilverCodeand with that rise, Balmer made just under $1B (1M?)11:59
Cantidehttp://www.news24.com/Technology/News/Microsofts-Steve-Ballmer-to-retire-2013082312:00
Kiloson idiot box news they were wondering who would take over and if ms would break up12:00
Cantidei don't think MS will collapse just yet12:00
CantideApple will before them, i think12:00
SilverCodeApple haev too much money to collapse12:01
SilverCode*have12:01
Cantidetrue12:02
SilverCodethey could probably keep trying new things for the next 10 years hoping something sticks before they run out of money12:02
Cantidebut they would shut down if they were running at a loss with no end in sight12:02
Cantideah, true that12:02
Cantidei had the pleasure of sitting with two apple fanboys last night12:02
Cantidetrying to justify some of the apple lunacy12:03
Cantidei was sure to let that conversation die :D12:03
SilverCodeI find myself surrounded by Apple fanboys often, but thankfully their fanboism has died down a little since they lost their God12:03
SilverCodebut it still ammuses me when I show them something like KDE Connect on my Android Phone + KDE Desktop, and they have to try stifle their excitement and pretend they dont care12:04
Kiloshehe12:05
magespawnI recently had a somebody getting really excited about icloud and being able to install software across devices12:23
CantideSilverCode, haha :)12:28
magespawnbbl fish time12:35
Cantidehttps://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/36318710/1236039_631165816915131_955571496_n.jpg12:38
magespawnCantide: happy cat14:02
theblazehenhey guys, maaz coffee please14:04
KilosMaaz, coffee on14:08
* Maaz starts grinding coffee14:08
Kiloshi theblazehen 14:08
theblazehenhey Kilos 14:08
theblazeheny eyes hurt :(14:09
theblazehenMy*14:09
Kilosi see peeps dont even check if there is such a channel as #linux-studies14:09
Kiloswhat you been looking at14:09
theblazehenah14:09
theblazehen60Hz CRT14:10
theblazehenthere is #linux-tutorials,which redirects to #nixtuts14:10
Kilossit further back14:10
theblazehenNot helping. Better at 70.2 Hz, but netbook won't support14:11
Kilosthis studies channel is our own controlled by kbmonkey14:11
Kiloshe did the work14:11
theblazehenYeah14:11
theblazehenjust saysing that people may find -tuts easier than -studies14:11
Kiloslol14:12
MaazCoffee's ready for Kilos!14:12
KilosMaaz, define tuts14:12
MaazKilos: I don't know about tuts. Maybe you meant Tut, nuts, tut, tutsi, guts, tues, tums, tutu, uts, tts or tsts?14:12
KilosMaaz, ty14:12
MaazYou are welcome Kilos14:12
theblazehentutorials14:12
Kiloswe started off with high hopes for LPI14:13
Kilosdo you have the manual14:13
theblazehenmanual?14:13
KilosMaaz, LPI manual14:13
Maazhttp://www.linuxcertification.co.za/lpi-study-manual14:13
theblazehennope14:14
Vince_0there's been a revision in LPI1 from mid 2012 - 14:15
theblazehenWill get later, on desktop. Can't scroll properly here. Too laggy14:15
Kilosget it then , sooner or later it will be done14:15
theblazehenk14:15
Kilosyou can write the exam and be qualified14:15
theblazehenAwesome14:15
theblazehenHow much does it cost to write?14:15
Kilosrecognised world wide14:15
Kiloswhatever the varsity or test centre will cost14:16
Vince_0R1125 per exam x2 - ish at pearsonvue test center 14:16
theblazehenah ok14:16
Kilosty Vince_0 14:16
Vince_0kk, I'm busy practicing 14:16
Vince_0it's not as easy as I thought14:17
theblazehenah hey Vince_0 14:17
Kilosgood man14:17
Vince_0need to get 70% to pass14:17
Kilosi gotta go rest a while14:17
Kilosoh Vince_0 where do i join your lug lists14:18
Kilosbefore i forget again14:18
Vince_0I'm not sure - I can check member list14:19
Vince_0theblazehen, check these blogs about details for comptia Linux+, LPI1 and Novel certs in one14:19
Vince_0http://www.ceyhunkirmizitas.net/linux/linux-certification-pass-only-2-exams-then-get-comptia-linux-lpi-lpic-1-novell-cla-and-novell-dcts/14:19
Vince_0http://greg.porter.name/wordpress/?p=113714:19
Vince_0Kilos, kilosblunt?14:21
theblazehenthanks Vince_0 14:21
Kilos-ai!14:22
theblazehenDC?14:22
Kilos-hey?14:23
theblazehenDicConnected?14:23
Kilos-sorry was disconnected14:23
Kilos-lol ya14:23
Kilos-but modem never showed it14:23
theblazehenah ok14:23
Kilos-oh theblazehen have you joined ours?14:23
theblazehenoUR lug?14:23
Kilos-our mailing list14:24
theblazehenyeah14:24
Kilos-good14:24
Kilos-how come you arent tuning your buddies to join us here14:25
Vince_0meeting tonight!14:25
Kilos-yes Vince_0 14:25
=== Vince_0 is now known as Vince-0
=== Kilos- is now known as Kilos
theblazehenKilos-, I try, but they never really stay14:25
Kiloswashouts14:25
theblazehendocs.google.com14:25
Vince-0at least everyone uses mail so the mail-lists should be first option for contact14:25
theblazehenoop[s14:26
KilosVince-0, where do i join your lug lists please14:26
Kilosmage forgot me14:26
Vince-0Durban LUG, I see a kilosblunt there already14:29
Kilosoh  that was the addy that opened when i last joined g+14:30
Kilosnp14:30
Kilosthere must be more there too14:30
Vince-0https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/dbnlug14:30
Kilosai!14:31
Kilosthat g+ google is painful14:31
Vince-0yep, bit too social14:31
Vince-0not really for organising14:31
Kilosyou can see ms had a finger in the pie there14:31
Kilosok just added kilosblunt to thunderbird, will see if you peeps mail14:35
Kilosinetpro, jaag hulle vanaand14:36
inetprouh?14:37
Kilosby die skool vergadering man14:39
Kilossjoe14:39
inetprooh14:39
inetprowhy?14:39
magespawnVince-0: that is handy info about the linux exam and novell cert ty14:40
Kilosso that you dont miss our meet. we need your input14:41
Kiloseven though the more you put in the worse my head hurts14:41
Kilosnow i go rest14:41
Vince-0magespawn, kk - 14:45
Vince-0im out! bbl14:45
inetproai!14:50
magespawnsee you at the meeting, later all15:07
kbmonkeyyeehaa16:09
Kiloslo monkey16:09
kbmonkeylo grams16:10
Kiloshehe16:10
kbmonkeyhehe16:10
kbmonkeydid you rest Kilos ?16:11
Kilosa while yeah ty16:11
Kiloswill lurk tonight16:11
kbmonkeythat is nice16:11
kbmonkeyi had to make dinner and did washing16:11
Kilosna didnt help16:11
kbmonkeyawe16:11
Kilosgood lad16:11
kbmonkeyit helps even to lie down even if you dont sleep16:12
Kilosits all this new stuffs messing up the head16:12
Kilosneed to play freecell only for a week16:13
kbmonkeythe card game? that is a fun one!16:13
Kilosyeah16:13
kbmonkeyman, this google chrome render bug is so annoying! I hope this update fixes it16:16
Kilosmethinks meet might stretch time a bit tonight16:20
kbmonkeywhy do you say that Kilos ? it starts at 8 right? we moved the time up as I remember16:21
Cantideoh, 8 now? 'o'16:21
Kilos19.3016:21
Cantidewhew :)16:21
Kilosoh is it at 8pm16:21
Cantide._.16:21
Kilosi forget16:21
Cantidei hope i'll still be here then16:22
Kiloshave looked at minutes16:22
magespawnevening16:22
Kiloshope they updated16:22
Cantidekeen to hear more about the python programming plan '<16:22
Kiloshi magespawn is meet a 816:22
magespawninetpro: suggested it, so that lug people can join16:22
KilosCantide, you got the book yet?16:22
magespawnyes Kilos 16:22
Cantidebook? >_> the one from the mailing list?16:22
Cantideunfortunately not..16:23
Kiloswait16:23
Cantidenow is not really a good time for me to invest time in something :/16:23
KilosMaaz, google byte of python16:23
MaazKilos: "A Byte of Python - Swaroop CH" http://swaroopch.com/notes/python/ :: "A Byte of Python - Ibiblio" http://www.ibiblio.org/g2swap/byteofpython/files/120/byteofpython_120.pdf :: "A Byte of Python - Ibiblio" http://www.ibiblio.org/g2swap/byteofpython/read/ :: "Byte Array Objects — Python v2.7.5 documentation" http://docs.python.org/2/c-api/bytearray.html ::16:23
Maaz"A Byte of Python by Swaroop C.H. - Reviews, Discussion, Bookclubs ..." http://www.goodrea…16:23
Kilosthere Cantide you can start16:23
Kilosits quite easy in the beginning16:23
magespawnCantide: why? anybody would think you are going overseas or something16:24
Cantidehehe16:24
Cantidemagespawn, touche :p16:24
Kilosoh my and i told peeps 19.3016:24
kbmonkeymy google reminder issued by the group says 8pm, the G+ event page says 7pm, lol16:24
Cantidehttps://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/36318710/1185220_632316993466680_2074991583_n.jpg16:24
Cantideamidoinitrite?16:24
KilosCantide, never stop learning man16:24
magespawnbetter early than late16:25
kbmonkeybooks are not so nice for coding - they become outdated in a year :(16:25
Kilosbyteof python is not too hard once you figured idle out16:25
Cantidesure, but if i start now, i have a few weeks, then a few weeks / months with no pc...16:25
Cantideand i will have a lot of other things to keep me busy preparing to leave soon :/16:25
Kiloswhy no pc?16:25
Cantidenot taking my PC with me - just the HDD16:25
kbmonkeywat? big snake o_O16:26
Cantidethen i'll build a new one there after a few paychecks :p16:26
Cantidemight get a laptop in the meantime16:26
Kiloslook for a cheap lappy16:26
Cantideyeah16:26
Kilosmust be cheaper there16:26
Cantidei hate windows though :/16:26
Cantidewill have to format it16:26
Kilosand use your drive externally16:26
Cantideyeah16:26
Cantidei have thought of this :)16:26
magespawnesquire has one with no os16:27
Cantidea requirement is also a Korean keyboard.. so..16:27
Cantideanyway, i will check it out over there :p16:27
magespawncan't help with that one16:27
Cantidei should be staying quite close to the electronics district16:27
Kilosthey will surely have them there with korean and peeps keys16:27
Cantideyup16:27
Cantidei have a friend that worked for LG, so i think she can help with cheap laptops16:28
Kilosor make a remastersys dvd of your system now and boot from that with any pc16:28
Cantidebut she left Korea for a while -.-16:28
Cantideheh16:28
Cantidecould do :p16:28
Cantidebut i want my HDD anyway16:28
Cantideso i will just keep it until i get a chance to build a new one16:28
kbmonkeyCantide, you will like this - http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/File:Windows-freebsd.jpg16:29
* Cantide clicks16:29
Cantidehahaha16:29
Cantidenice :D16:29
kbmonkeybutterfly suit wtf?! :D16:29
Kiloswb theblazehen 16:30
theblazehenTy Kilos 16:31
theblazehenXDMX is a POS16:31
theblazehenMeeting in an hour?16:34
Kilos8 pm16:34
theblazehenk16:34
Kilosi forgot time was changed too16:34
Kilossigh16:34
theblazehenah :/16:34
theblazehenPhone usually reminds me 1 hour ahead16:34
kbmonkeyyar, which lug people was it again Kilos ?16:35
Kiloshmm... not the durbs peeps16:36
Kilosyou know the minutes to the last meet16:37
kbmonkeythe folks up north perhaps16:37
Kilosjosie peeps?16:37
nuvolario/ hello's :D16:40
nuvolarihi oom Kilos 16:41
nuvolarilo kbmonkey, theblazehen 16:41
Kiloslo nuvolari wt16:41
theblazehenhi nuvolari 16:41
nuvolariand, Cantide, magespawn, Vince-0 16:41
magespawnhey nuvolari 16:41
* nuvolari wets the floor like a little excited puppy16:41
nuvolariRMS is coming to town!16:41
theblazehenI know!16:42
theblazehenI'm going to see him!16:42
nuvolarihmm, I need to look up the location16:43
theblazehenLol nuvolari when I first heard about it I was like a teen girl with justin bieber tickets :p16:43
theblazehennuvolari, got tickets?16:43
nuvolarilol theblazehen!16:43
nuvolaritheblazehen: well, I've registered for the event here in KZN16:44
nuvolarinot tickets per se16:44
* nuvolari prods Vince-016:44
theblazehenah ok16:44
nuvolarido we get tickets?16:44
theblazehenneed tickets for jhb16:44
theblazehenhttp://sfd-jhb-2013.eventbrite.com/16:44
nuvolaritheblazehen: send joburgers down here if they are out of tickets over there16:44
theblazehenStill got tickets here16:44
nuvolariok, so what questions would not be greeted with his cold response? 16:46
Cantidehey nuvolari :)16:46
theblazehennuvolari, ?16:46
nuvolarithe last time I've listened to a podcast, I thought to myself to maybe never ask him something :P16:46
Cantideoh yeah, when is the event here in SA?16:46
theblazehenCantide, 31 AUG for jhb16:46
nuvolariCantide: you're here in Kzn right?16:47
theblazehenCantide, softwarefreedom.co.za has dates16:47
nuvolariSept. 6th here in KZN16:47
Cantideouch16:48
Cantidei should be able to make that =)16:48
nuvolariCantide: http://rms-durban.eventbrite.com/16:48
kbmonkeythanks nuvolari !16:51
Cantidethanks :)16:51
* kbmonkey add agenda item16:51
Kilosyo queery 16:52
nuvolarihowdy queery 16:52
theblazehenhi queery 16:52
Kilosmeet starts at 20.0016:52
queeryHi all16:53
queeryOh common! 16:53
Kiloswerent you at the last meeting16:53
theblazehenLol queery, also got wrong time16:53
queeryHmmm16:53
queeryNo16:53
* theblazehen points to kilos16:53
nuvolariwha hey? 16:53
nuvolarioh16:53
Kilosthats where dates and time was changed16:53
queeryI c16:54
Kilospoint at kbmonkey he shoulda corrected me inna mail16:54
queeryLet me change the calender16:54
Kilosqueery, wasnt it chaqnged for you peeps16:54
queeryOk so last or 4th Monday? 16:54
Kilosyip16:54
nuvolariwhich yip?16:55
queeryNo that's a question 16:55
nuvolari:P16:55
Kilos4th16:55
queeryAh16:55
queeryOk now the calender don't show nothin16:56
queeryI'm confused 16:56
Kilosyo smile 16:56
Cantidehey smile :)16:56
queeryOh wait I was on wrong week16:57
Kiloslol16:57
theblazehenhi smile 16:57
Kilostheblazehen, you and smile are about the same size16:57
smilehi :D16:57
theblazehenKilos, how?16:58
queeryI see the One from Ubuntu-ZA was changed my personal one was wrong (why do I have that? 16:58
Kilosage wise16:58
Kilosif im not mistook16:58
theblazehenah. How old is smile?16:58
Kilosyoung16:58
Kiloshehe16:58
theblazehenoh lol16:59
queeryThe g+ time is 716:59
smile18, why? :D16:59
Kilosi forget if he finished school yet16:59
theblazehenJust wondering16:59
nuvolariuuugh! how much is a proper chair?16:59
smilenot yet :D three years to go16:59
smile;)16:59
Kilosi think the pro also forgot queery 16:59
Kiloswas his suggestion to change it so it would suit lug peeps17:00
kbmonkeynuvolari, have you grabbed some seatings from RMS yet on that site link you gave?17:01
nuvolarikbmonkey: I have to verify with Vince-0 17:02
nuvolariI think I registered via the dlug website17:02
kbmonkeyI'll love to attend! will need to find out about lifts.17:02
nuvolarikbmonkey: you can grab a lift with me17:03
nuvolariI'm taking half day leave17:03
kbmonkeymy car's battery is dead - I will appreciate that a lot nuvolari :D17:03
nuvolarikbmonkey: cool!17:03
Cantidei want to go..17:03
kbmonkeywe can get lost together finding the place ;)17:03
Cantidedon't think i want to go alone though -.-17:03
nuvolariI'm not sure at what time I'm going, but people from work said I need to go early otherwise traffic will be a mess17:04
Cantideyeah17:04
kbmonkeyindeed, I think the exact same17:04
kbmonkeytraffic starts up around 4pm17:04
kbmonkeyso before that17:04
Vince-0haai17:05
theblazehenkbmonkey, What time does it start in dbn17:05
theblazehenhi Vince-0 17:05
kbmonkeythe page says 5pm theblazehen 17:05
nuvolarihaai Vince-0 17:05
kbmonkeyhai Vince-0 17:05
Vince-0http://rms-durban.eventbrite.com/ for the UKZN register17:05
theblazehenkbmonkey, K thx. Going to jhb anyway, starts at 917:06
Vince-0http://durbanlinux.org.za/?page_id=10 for the LUG register17:06
nuvolariVince-0: should the eventbrite page show if I'm registered? I'm not sure if I completed the form on the dlug website... I know I was busy filling it out, but whether I submitted is a guess :P17:06
Vince-0the confirm page is broken on durbanlinux17:07
Vince-0you're there17:07
Vince-0about 100 people so far!17:07
nuvolari\o/17:07
nuvolariwow17:07
nuvolarithat's great17:07
Cantidecool~17:07
theblazehennuvolari, should send you a pdf in the mail17:07
Cantidemaybe i will go, and meet you guys there?17:07
* Cantide doesn't want to spend 3 or 4 hours alone17:08
Cantidehaha17:08
kbmonkeyregistered, thanks :)17:08
theblazehenWho else is going to jhb one as well?17:08
Cantide>_>17:08
nuvolarikbmonkey: what time will you get off?17:10
nuvolariCantide: depending on the time of arrival, we can hang out17:10
Kiloshi smile 17:10
nuvolarioh hi SmilyBorg_h 17:10
Cantideyay17:10
KilosSmilyBorg_h, 17:10
SmilyBorg_hHey all17:10
=== SmilyBorg_h is now known as SmilyBorg
kbmonkeynuvolari, I can get off any time after 1pm. is that okay?17:10
smilehi Kilos :)17:11
Kiloshehe17:11
nuvolarikbmonkey: cool, I'll be leaving by 12:00-12:3017:11
kbmonkeyhai SmilyBorg !17:11
nuvolariis there stuff to do on campus in the case we get there early and find ourselves thumb-tumbling?17:12
SmilyBorghey kbmonkey :-)17:12
Cantidenuvolari, go across the road to the driving range haha17:12
kbmonkeyin fact I can make it 12 even, just realized that is lunch time :p17:12
nuvolariCantide: cool! I'll go on a golf-cart run :P17:13
Cantidelol17:13
kbmonkeylol17:13
nuvolarithat's the most fun I believe golf can provide17:13
Cantideit's just a driving range though :/ no course there17:14
smile:S17:14
* smile hugs Cantide17:14
Cantide'o'17:14
* Cantide is hugged by smile 'o'17:14
Cantidethere is also a KFC very close to UKZN17:14
Cantidei know i will be hungry between 5 pm and 7 pm17:15
nuvolarigood idea! I'll be missing lunch at work17:15
Cantideso snacking before would help >.<17:15
kbmonkeyapparently there will be eats provided. I hear RMS is baking muffins.17:15
Cantideoh~~17:15
Cantide:p17:15
nuvolariwe should do a picnic :P17:15
Kilosyum snacking on kfc is good17:15
kbmonkeygimme a nice bowl of strawberries anytime!17:16
Cantide>.<17:16
Kiloswith cream17:17
Cantidethis is starting to sound better and better17:17
kbmonkeybettetter?17:17
theblazehenAgreed Cantide 17:17
Kiloskbmonkey, you should try growing your own there17:17
Kilosinna pot17:17
Cantidethe mostest betterest17:17
nuvolariok, I located UKZN on google maps at last17:18
CantideKilos, in Durban? haha17:18
nuvolariwhere exactly do we go?17:18
Cantidenuvolari, I know where it is17:18
Kilosyeah17:18
Cantidei mean i know where UKZN is >.<17:18
Cantidenot too far from where i am17:18
Kilosthey quite hardy plants17:18
CantideDNB is too hot for the fruit though :/17:18
kbmonkeythey don't seem too hard in my blender >.<17:18
Kilosi dunno17:18
Cantidenuvolari, according to that events page they have yet to confirm the building17:18
magespawnmake  nice hanging decorations17:18
Kilosgo check at a nursery they will tell you17:19
nuvolariah, I missed that, thanks Cantide 17:19
Kiloshttp://www.property24.com/articles/grow-your-own-succulent-strawberries/1508417:23
theblazehenhey DarkSurferZA 17:23
Kilosim sure theyll do well in durbs17:24
Kilosyo DarkSurferZA 17:24
DarkSurferZAHi17:24
nuvolarihowdy DarkSurferZA 17:24
DarkSurferZAKilos, your nick sounds fimiliar17:24
theblazehenDarkSurferZA, He always says17:24
theblazehenhi17:24
Cantide:D17:24
Kiloswe have chatted here before methinks17:24
DarkSurferZAThought so.17:25
DarkSurferZAFirst time joining the ubuntu-za channel17:25
DarkSurferZAThought  i could get more involved17:25
Kilosfirst time?17:25
Kiloswelcome to ubuntu-za17:25
DarkSurferZAI am on the mailing list, but havent joined the IRC before17:25
Kiloswhere are you and what do you do17:26
nuvolarithis is where things are happening17:26
Kilosim sure we have chatted17:26
nuvolarihowdy charl 17:26
theblazehenhi ChanServ 17:26
charlhi, is the meeting now?17:26
Kiloshi charl 17:26
theblazehenhi charl*17:26
charloh only at 20:0017:26
Kilos8pm 17:26
theblazehencharl nope not yet17:26
charlhi Kilos, theblazehen 17:26
DarkSurferZAA security consultant at an audit firm17:26
Kiloshmm...17:27
charlbrb17:27
DarkSurferZANot so much fun.Better hacking things at a bank17:27
kbmonkeycool DarkSurferZA , welcome!17:27
theblazehenwb charl 17:27
charlthanks theblazehen 17:27
DarkSurferZAThanks kbmonkey17:27
DarkSurferZAKilos, where r u from?17:28
Kilospta17:28
kbmonkeyoh nuvolari it was ludum dare this past weekend (game coding compo)17:28
DarkSurferZACool. Anyone here alsoon the ZaCon IRC?17:29
kbmonkeywhat is ZaCon IRC DarkSurferZA ?17:29
superflyI thought the meeting was at 19:30?17:30
CantideSouth African IRC network?17:30
charlsuperfly: i thought so too apparently it changed17:30
superflyeish, 20:00 is inconvenient17:30
charlyeah man why move the time17:30
Cantideyeah, i'm sleepy already ._.17:30
charlhey Cantide :)17:30
Cantidemosquitoes kept me up until 2 am last night .-.17:30
Cantidehey charl :)17:30
kbmonkeyaah, infosec.. interesting!17:30
charli also had a mosquito in my apartment yesterday :(17:30
DarkSurferZAZaCon is the local hacker irc channel. Usually linux and hacking go together17:30
charlfortunately it didn't bother or bite me17:30
charlDarkSurferZA: which network?17:31
Cantidei had a giant one that i could feel landing on me as i tried to sleep -.-17:31
Kilosnope sorry superfly 17:31
charlyeah this one also was huge17:31
charli was chasing it around but couldn't kill it17:31
kbmonkeyya superfly, last time someone suggested to try that so the lug folks can join after their meet17:31
Cantidealso, tomorrow might be a really cool day, so i want to sleep early so it will come sooner :)17:31
charlbut that was just before i went to bed17:31
Cantidecharl, tough luck17:31
Cantidehah, maybe it left you and flew to me -_-17:31
kbmonkeyKilos, thinking about that - since the day changed to another monday does that not mean the time wont clash anymore?17:31
charllol17:32
charloh it's on atrum: http://zacon.org.za/irc.html17:32
Kilosi dunno kbmonkey we must ask the pro17:32
DarkSurferZACrud, mosquitos already? Springtime is almost here17:32
Cantideyeah :(17:32
Cantidei will escape before summer :)17:32
Kilosi think 30 mins was added so family peeps can first have some family and supper time17:32
kbmonkeythanks for that DarkSurferZA, I think I'll check it out some time...17:33
kbmonkeyI am interested in crypto and security17:33
DarkSurferZANp17:33
DarkSurferZAAny specific infosec speciality?17:34
kbmonkeyno, but I do implement cryptography and security models in the systems I develop at work. but nothing beyond the ordinary, yet17:34
DarkSurferZACool.17:35
charlhi psychicist 17:35
psychicisthi charl 17:35
charlhow's the weather in poland17:35
charlhere it's an absolutely beautiful day today17:35
Kiloshi psychicist 17:35
psychicistit's still pretty good over here too17:35
psychicisthi Kilos 17:35
charlpsychicist: i assume you get much more sunshine in poland than us :P17:36
psychicistcharl, definitely :P17:36
charllol17:36
charlbig surprise :P17:36
psychicistbut winter is coming and it will also be tougher than back in the netherlands17:36
psychicisthahaha17:37
charloh yes your winters are much more severe17:37
charlwhen we get eastern wind we get german weather, clear skies but ice cold17:37
charlin the winter17:37
superflykbmonkey: how secure are your servers?17:37
kbmonkeysuperfly, well they are not Linux, so probably like swiss cheese XD17:38
Kiloslol17:38
kbmonkeygotta pay those bills ;)17:38
psychicistyeah17:38
nuvolarisounds cheesy to me17:38
psychicisthi bmg505 17:39
psychicisthi superfly 17:39
psychicisthmm17:39
superflykbmonkey: no, you don't understand... can I walk into your data centre and walk out with a server in my arms?17:39
psychicisthi kbmonkey 17:39
superflyhi psychicist17:39
DarkSurferZALol.17:39
DarkSurferZAI have seen this, and worse17:39
theblazehenDarkSurferZA, mind sharing tales?17:39
psychicistI'll be back later, I'm going out for dinner!17:39
charlsuperfly: and if you don't do it, the nsa will do it for you :P17:39
superflykbmonkey: security is not just about protection against crackers and viruses17:39
kbmonkeynot likely superfly, it is a financial firm so security is tight. and the second server is hosted on site with a data center17:40
DarkSurferZASeen a windows NT server at a client once. The last year17:40
Kilosenjoy psychicist 17:40
kbmonkey* I mean at a server farm17:40
charlDarkSurferZA: NT 4.0 ?!17:40
psychicistthanks Kilos 17:40
DarkSurferZAWas so secure cause my shellcode exploits wouldnt compile on it.17:40
DarkSurferZANT 4.0 sp417:40
charllol17:40
charlit's so old it's actually hard to exploit ?!17:40
charlwhow this would be a new problem17:40
Cantidelol17:41
charllast time i used nt was 13 years ago before moving to win2k17:41
DarkSurferZAHad to pull out a cd from my graveyard to research libs and sys calls.17:41
Cantidelast time i used Windows was 5 years ago before moving to Ubuntu >_>17:41
* Cantide hides17:41
theblazehenCantide, no need to hide :P17:42
Cantidenah, i'm a bit off topic :p17:42
DarkSurferZALast time i found a secure server, the power was off17:42
Cantidelol17:42
kbmonkeyha ha!17:42
kbmonkeythe only way to win is to not play, eh?17:43
DarkSurferZATrue17:43
theblazehenrelevant techcrunch.com/2013/04/14/nes-robot/‎17:43
DarkSurferZAOr just apply common sense. As long as your competition loses worse than you, its the same as a win17:44
Kiloshehe17:44
kbmonkeyI just plug in the codes at work. but most of that OS has such insane defaults,it baffles me how it operates17:45
theblazehenhi stegreen 17:45
Kiloshi stegreen welcome to ubuntu-za17:45
DarkSurferZAEasy, it operates badly. Seen ballmer resigned17:45
* kbmonkey hugs terminal17:46
kbmonkeydevelopers! developer! developers! that guy is creepy.17:46
* superfly last used Windows when XP was the latest and greatest17:46
DarkSurferZAMade himself 768 million USD for resigning.Share price increased 7% after the announcement and he owns 330 million shares17:46
theblazehenGood choice :)17:47
superflyhe might have made more if he'd resigned earlier :-P17:47
kbmonkeyno comment or else it will be too rude ;)17:47
theblazehenlol kbmonkey 17:48
DarkSurferZAStep 1 drive company into the ground. Step 2, get lots of cheap shares. Step 3, resign and watch the share price increase17:48
kbmonkey4. ??? 5. profit!17:48
theblazehenskip 417:48
magespawn4. Laugh all the way to the bank17:48
DarkSurferZAHow to make millions - steve ballmer. Best seller btw17:49
Cantidelol17:49
DarkSurferZAFound it ridiculous that he is the second highest shareholder in microsoft17:49
magespawnobvious, he knew what he was doingg17:50
DarkSurferZAObvioushim and bill were buddies17:51
DarkSurferZASoz, my space bar doesnt register if u hit the side of it17:52
magespawnno worries17:52
theblazehenMy "M" Won't if I hit on on the top17:52
kbmonkeytell me you do not detect a slight hint of psychosis in ballmer - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvsboPUjrGc17:52
charlcomplete maniac17:53
DarkSurferZASlight as in slight, or slight as in I am being so sarcastic right now17:53
superflySeriously, either 19:30 or 20:30. 20:00 is bed time for the kids, I cannot be at the meeting.17:53
magespawn no he is rich therefore eccentric not crazy17:53
Kiloswell change it tonight superfly 17:54
Kilosmaybe 8.30 is good hey?17:54
kbmonkeyyes we'll change it tonight17:54
Kiloskbmonkey, have you got the link for the minutes17:54
kbmonkeyyou can check back in after superfly, we may still be going17:54
magespawnthat is also good for me17:55
kbmonkeyI do Kilos 17:55
Kilosmeet starts in 517:55
Kilosgood man17:55
charltalking about security, i was just watching the latest episodeof hak5, they are talking about the usb rubber ducky17:55
charlhttp://www.usbrubberducky.com/17:56
kbmonkeygoing to make some tea then...17:56
kbmonkeyMaaz, coffee on17:56
* Maaz puts the kettle on17:56
charlMaaz: coffee please17:56
Maazcharl: Alrighty17:56
KilosMaaz, coffee please17:56
MaazKilos: Yessir17:56
queeryMaaz coffee for all17:57
MaazCome on ya buncha geeks. Rock up with your mugs with the correct amount of sugar added already17:57
KilosMaaz, large17:57
MaazIn a beer mug just for you Kilos17:57
queeryMaaz coffee please17:57
Maazqueery: Alrighty17:57
theblazehenMaaz large17:57
MaazIn a beer mug just for you theblazehen17:57
charlanother awesome project: https://wifipineapple.com/17:57
DarkSurferZAUsb attacks emulating keyboards is the new best thing. Havent seen this one yet, but it will make epic corp malware17:57
theblazehenlol http://pastebin.com/z78yQY4Z17:57
nuvolariMaaz: coffee please17:58
Maaznuvolari: Sorry, there aren't any more cups left17:58
nuvolari:'(17:58
nuvolariMaaz: tequila-shot please17:58
Maaznuvolari: *blink*17:58
kbmonkeylol17:59
queeryWait Maaz has a limit? 17:59
theblazehen4 cups17:59
MaazCoffee's ready for kbmonkey, charl, Kilos and queery!18:00
KilosMaaz, ty18:00
MaazYou are welcome Kilos18:00
charlMaaz: thanks18:00
Maazcharl: Okay :-)18:00
queeryMaaz ty18:00
MaazYou are welcome queery18:00
nuvolariMaaz: coffee on18:00
theblazehenMaaz ty18:00
* Maaz flips the salt-timer18:00
MaazYou are welcome theblazehen18:00
nuvolarilagging :-/18:00
theblazehenmaaz ty18:00
MaazYou are welcome theblazehen18:00
theblazehenmaaz ty again ?18:01
Maaztheblazehen: Sorry...18:01
nuvolaribadly18:01
kbmonkeyalrighty, let's start eh..18:01
charlok it's time for the meeting18:01
queeryYes please18:01
charlget the show on the road18:01
kbmonkeyMaaz, start meeting about Monthly Ubuntu-ZA IRC meet18:02
* Maaz gets out his memo-pad and cracks his knuckles18:02
queeryBeen waiting a week and one hour :p18:02
nuvolariyeah... running late18:02
nuvolarioh fudge!18:02
kbmonkeyMaaz, topic Introductions and welcome18:02
MaazCurrent Topic: Introductions and welcome18:02
charllos gehts18:02
queeryMaaz in dewald18:02
Maazqueery: What?18:02
kbmonkeyhello everyone, welcome to the meeting!18:02
KilosMaaz, I am Miles Sharpe18:02
MaazKilos: Okay18:02
queeryMaaz I am dewald18:02
Maazqueery: Okay18:02
charlMaaz: i am Charl van Niekerk18:02
Maazcharl: Sure18:02
kbmonkeyplease introduce yourself to the resident bot Maaz 18:02
theblazehenMaaz I am Jeandre Henderson18:02
Maaztheblazehen: Okay18:02
queeryAutocorrect.... 18:02
SmilyBorgMaaz: I am Una Karlsen18:03
MaazSmilyBorg: Yessir18:03
kbmonkeyMaaz, I am Wesley Werner18:03
Maazkbmonkey: Yessir18:03
DarkSurferZAMaaz, I am Cailan Sacks18:03
MaazDarkSurferZA: Okay18:03
SmilyBorgMaaz: thats ma'am18:03
MaazSmilyBorg: Huh?18:03
SmilyBorgsilly bot18:03
kbmonkeyit is not sensitive enough :)18:03
CantideMaaz, I am Karl Wortmann18:04
MaazCantide: Yessir18:04
Kiloshaha @ SmilyBorg 18:04
SmilyBorghad to correct people last week. I'm semi-used to it, but it gets old18:04
kbmonkeyokay all, so what usually happens is we have and agenda and just talk about stuff. sometimes Kilos brings waffles.18:04
MaazCoffee's ready for nuvolari!18:04
Kiloshehe18:04
kbmonkeyexcuse my typos, I type faster than this ssh connection can move the bytes18:05
kbmonkeyour agenda for tonight lives at: http://loco.ubuntu.com/meetings/ubuntu-za/623/detail/18:05
kbmonkeyI will give a minute for that to sink in18:05
* kbmonkey sips tea18:06
Kilossuperfly, do you prefer 8.30?18:07
kbmonkeyI added this new item:18:07
kbmonkeyMaaz, topic Admin18:07
MaazCurrent Topic: Admin18:07
kbmonkeyMeeting Times - what says everybody on this?18:08
Kiloswhatever suits the fly best18:08
Kilosinetpro, ping18:08
kbmonkeywe listen to the people with kids - it is a lot of time management from what I hear!18:08
theblazehenagreed kbmonkey 18:09
kbmonkeythe fly suggested 8:30 or 7:30, I have no issues with either18:10
nuvolariMaaz: I am Johan Mynhardt18:10
Maaznuvolari: Okay18:10
Kilosif 7.30 he has to go at 8.00 anyway so i think 8.30 better18:10
nuvolariwhat's wrong with the webz tonight :/-/18:11
* nuvolari cries in the corner18:11
theblazehennuvolari, why?18:11
theblazehenFine here18:11
nuvolarivodacom is up to no good18:11
nuvolaritried for like 9 minutes to get connected again18:12
theblazehenah. Wired line here18:12
stegreenwhois nuvolari18:12
nuvolariits me18:12
queeryCan we go on18:12
nuvolari:P18:12
kbmonkeyokay, I dont see anyone objecting to 8:30pm meeting times18:12
nuvolariwaaait18:12
kbmonkeylets give it a test run18:13
nuvolariwhy so late?18:13
kbmonkey...lol18:13
kbmonkeythe fly has to put the kids to bed at 8pm 18:13
Kilosand pro18:13
* kbmonkey greps the last logs...18:13
Cantideneither time will help me soon T-T18:13
Kilosand magespawn 18:13
queeryOk 830 next time18:13
nuvolariokay... it's 30 mins past my bed time18:13
queerySay I? 18:13
Kiloscool18:13
queeryI18:13
nuvolari:P18:13
inetproMaaz: I am Gustav H Meyer18:14
Maazinetpro: Righto18:14
Kilosohi inetpro 18:14
Kiloswb18:14
inetprogood evening18:14
kbmonkeyokay, the logs show that our date coincided with the JoziLUG meetings18:15
Kilosnew meeting time is 20.30 inetpro 18:15
inetprowow, that sounds even better than 20:0018:15
kbmonkeyso since we changed our day, we can go back to 7:30 time if we like?18:15
Kiloshehe18:15
inetpro+1 from me18:15
queeryThen we have 30 min for a meeting... 18:15
Kilosnuvolari, have more coffee18:16
kbmonkeyhow is that queery ?18:16
inetproyou guys finished already?18:16
queery8 is when the kids need to be put to bed18:16
Kilos8.30 till all done18:16
kbmonkeyunderstood - sorry18:16
magespawnMaaz I am Greg Eames18:16
Maazmagespawn: Alrighty18:16
queeryI was talking about if the time was 73018:16
Kilosya18:17
Kilos8.30 +118:17
kbmonkeyMaaz, agreed Meeting time moved to 20:3018:17
MaazAgreed: Meeting time moved to 20:3018:17
queeryOk neeeeeext 18:17
Kilossjoe18:17
magespawn+218:17
kbmonkeythanks queery ;)18:17
superflyMaaz: I am Raoul Snyman18:17
Maazsuperfly: Yessir18:17
kbmonkeyMaaz, topic Review previous minutes18:17
MaazCurrent Topic: Review previous minutes18:17
kbmonkeythe log for this lives at: http://maaz.mene.za.net/logs/meetings/freenode-%23ubuntu-za/2013-07-15-17-31-55.txt18:18
inetprohmm... still not much that happened on G+18:18
kbmonkeyWe agreed to put more events up on G+18:19
kbmonkeyinetpro, because we need more events ;)18:19
magespawnah well then, the events have to be organised first than18:19
magespawnthen18:19
kbmonkeyand keep in mind software freedom day, which is in 25 days and is an event!18:19
kbmonkeyhttp://www.softwarefreedomday.org/18:19
queeryWell.... 18:20
inetproat least we have seen a lot of hypoe around SFD18:20
queeryIt's a day18:20
inetprohype*18:20
queeryAn event needs to be organised 18:20
inetprolet's hope that we'll see the people going in numbers18:20
theblazehenHope so. 18:21
theblazehenEstimate at how many people?18:21
kbmonkeyfor durbs myself and nuvolari and Vince-0 will need to throw around some ideas - I foresee cake18:21
Vince-0Maaz: I'm Vincent Swart18:21
MaazVince-0: Huh?18:21
Cantideif i am here, i will join :)18:21
Vince-0Maaz: I am Vincent Swart lool18:21
MaazVince-0: Righto18:21
kbmonkeycool Cantide !18:22
Cantide'-'18:22
kbmonkeyand bomberman agreed to update the google calendar18:22
kbmonkeyI don't think bomberman is here tonight18:22
SmilyBorgHopefully I'll make it for Software Freedom Day, but I'm having surgery next week so will be out of commision for a while18:22
Kilosnope18:23
kbmonkeyMaaz, topic Event - software freedom day 201318:23
MaazCurrent Topic: Event - software freedom day 201318:23
Kilosgood luck SmilyBorg 18:23
queeryIs there something in jhb18:23
magespawnSmilyBorg: get a wheel chair18:23
charlall the best SmilyBorg !18:23
kbmonkeywe will think of you SmilyBorg :]18:23
Kilosqueery, yes18:23
SmilyBorgthanks folks18:23
DarkSurferZAGood luck man. Hope it aint too bad18:24
Kilostheblazehen, give queery the link18:24
theblazehenqueery http://sfd-jhb-2013.eventbrite.com/18:24
queeryDankie18:24
KilosDarkSurferZA, mam not man18:24
SmilyBorgnothing too major, just might not be able to drive for a few weeks18:24
queeryNaaaas18:25
DarkSurferZAMy bad. Was wrong once before so i expected to make another mistake at some stage18:25
Kiloslol18:25
charlDarkSurferZA: happens to everyone online :)18:25
kbmonkeyMaaz, agreed Durban team to plan SFD: kbmonkey, nuvolari, Vince-0 18:25
MaazAgreed: Durban team to plan SFD: kbmonkey, nuvolari, Vince-018:25
inetproqueery: the controversial yet very interesting Richard Stallman will be at SFD in JHB18:25
Kilosi thought the hen was a chick once too18:26
theblazehenLol Kilos, why?18:26
kbmonkeyany CT and JHB peeps who would like to plan something for SFD?18:26
Kiloshen18:26
Kilosshould be rooster18:26
theblazehenKilos, ah. kbmonkey such as?18:26
queeryinetpro: weë will try and be there18:26
queeryIs it on g+ yet? 18:26
* inetpro not sure whether I can make it yet18:27
inetproqueery: no18:27
kbmonkeyjust pointing out, that RMS is not appearing during SFD18:27
DarkSurferZAThe internet is thankfully un-sexed, and therefore cannot slap me across the table just now18:27
inetprowell not on ubuntu-za's g+18:27
theblazehenkbmonkey, He's not?18:27
magespawnVince-0: is RMS still coming to Durban?18:27
queeryPlease create an event on g+ and fb18:27
Vince-0http://durbanlinux.org.za/?page_id=18 RSVP page18:27
theblazehenkbmonkey, why?18:27
queeryEasier to share18:27
kbmonkeythe date does not match up theblazehen, he appears a month before SFD, so perhaps he is going to discuss it18:27
Vince-0OR UKZN register http://rms-durban.eventbrite.com/18:27
Vince-0So far there are about 100 people18:28
theblazehenkbmonkey, ah yes18:28
kbmonkeyshould give some good insight to plan an event though :]18:28
Vince-0RMS Jo'burg is at Wits - official page here: http://softwarefreedom.co.za/18:29
inetprooops, and I didn't even realise that SFD is actually only on 21 September18:29
kbmonkeynobody else for planning a SFD event?18:30
Vince-0the dates couldn't have coincided for RMS tour18:30
queeryIs anyone putting all the on the Ubuntu-ZA site? 18:30
inetproqueery: well we didn't arrange any of it18:31
queerySo? 18:31
queeryWe can promote it18:31
kbmonkeyMaaz, topic RMS talks18:31
MaazCurrent Topic: RMS talks18:31
theblazehentrue queery 18:31
theblazehenJust in time!18:31
queeryArn't we activists for software freedom? 18:31
inetprosure18:32
kbmonkeyso if you havenot yet hurd (he he) Richard Stallman is appearing in SA18:32
kbmonkeyfor the durban registration, you can visit Register for the event at http://durbanlinux.org.za/?page_id=1818:32
* kbmonkey looks for the other region links...18:32
inetproqueery: I just don't want to take away from existing registered events on g+18:33
queeryPlease send all links and info to rmsinfo@queery.co.za18:33
smilebye :)18:33
Kiloscheers smile 18:33
inetprowill confuse people18:33
kbmonkeyfor JHB registration one can visit http://sfd-jhb-2013.eventbrite.com/18:33
queeryOk then at least post the links in one spot18:33
inetprothat seems like a better idea18:34
inetproanyone who has links is welcome to ask me to post on our ubuntu-za profiel18:34
queeryOr send it to Dewaldisalazyass@queery.co.za and I'll post it on Ubuntu-ZA 18:34
kbmonkeyis there a Cape Town registration link?18:34
inetproprofile*18:35
DarkSurferZASoz guys. Gtg now. Promised family I would only be an hour. Will idle and log. Chat to you guys later. Hopefully i am online more18:35
magespawncool DarkSurferZA18:36
kbmonkeycome again DarkSurferZA 18:36
inetproand that counts for any future events, if you feel that an event or info is relevant to ubuntu-za feel free to highlight and talk to me18:36
queeryI can't copy from g+...... 18:36
Kiloscheers DarkSurferZA dont be a stranger18:36
DarkSurferZATy. Cheers.18:36
queery@#?£!#@ g+18:36
* kbmonkey can't find the CT RMS link18:37
queeryOn Google plus just search for it18:37
queery"a free digital society" 18:38
nuvolariok, I give up18:38
Kiloswassup nuvolari ?18:38
kbmonkeywhile I wait for G+ to load, any ideas for activities on SFD?18:38
nuvolariI missed nearly all of the meeting18:38
magespawnnuvolari: internet not showing you the love?18:39
Kilosai!18:39
nuvolarimagespawn: yeah, we're in a love-hate relationship at this stage18:39
Kilosget 8ta man18:39
nuvolariit loves to hate me18:39
magespawnlol18:39
nuvolarioom Kilos, I depleted my 60Gb bundle in 4 months :-/18:39
Kiloswow18:40
nuvolariso I have a truckload of data for after 23:0018:40
nuvolari:P18:40
queeryhttp://www.fsf.org/events/20130906-capetown18:40
nuvolariit still worked out cheaper than what I used to pay per month18:40
Kiloswe can make meets at 11.3018:40
kbmonkeyThe CT RMS event details live at http://www.fsf.org/events/20130906-capetown18:40
nuvolarilol18:40
* Kilos hides18:40
nuvolarithat's a plan oom Kilos !18:40
magespawnnothing from my side kbmonkey18:40
queerykbmonkey: snap18:41
queeryAnd no oom kilos18:41
nuvolaricrackle, pop?18:41
magespawni am too far away18:41
kbmonkeyI'm thinking a 2 hour hackathon to make free software18:41
kbmonkeyor a game tourney - hotseat style18:42
queerySo agreed all links will be sent to me? 18:42
theblazehengood idea kbmonkey 18:42
kbmonkeyI will email those queery. 18:42
kbmonkeyto the list18:42
queeryPlease cc me18:43
kbmonkeysure :)18:43
queeryThanx18:43
kbmonkeygood good. I think we move on?18:43
queeryNEEEEXT18:43
kbmonkeyMaaz, topic Linux studies18:44
MaazCurrent Topic: Linux studies18:44
queery:p18:44
kbmonkeyThe #linux-studies channel is resurrected.18:44
queerySo wanna do that18:44
kbmonkeya quick history: the channel was created as a study group for stuff18:44
queeryBut time and money and where? 18:45
kbmonkeymoney is not so much needed if you have a pc18:45
magespawnjust a study group to go through the LPIC 101 18:45
kbmonkeythere are plenty of online resources18:45
magespawni wouldn't mind organising time etc18:46
kbmonkeywho was it that resurrected this by the way?18:46
queeryYea lpic... 18:46
kbmonkeyI tried roganizing this last time, I moved cities and lost connectivity and it turned out not too good18:46
kbmonkeynow seems a better time :)18:46
magespawncame about because of wanting to learn python from various people, me and Kilos, then thought it mught be better to start with the os18:47
queeryWhere do I find out where to take them and how much they are? 18:47
magespawns/mught/might18:47
Kilosqueery, ?18:47
kbmonkeyId be happy to help too. it should be a group effort18:47
magespawnqueery: i think the exam is about R1200 but stand under correction18:47
Kiloswhat do you wanna find18:47
queerySee money18:48
magespawnmaybe we could organise all the links on the wiki18:48
kbmonkeythose details can be talked about within the group18:48
magespawnsome of the dlug guys posted links on their mailing list to some more resources18:48
Kilosdont worry about the exam yet. classes havent even started yet18:48
queeryCool but maybe also put on webpage as a page18:49
Vince-0I have the info18:49
kbmonkeythe wiki we have for it is at http://linux-studies.za.net18:49
magespawnlike i say i do niot mind be the coordinator for this18:49
queeryDo I have to take classes? 18:49
kbmonkeycourtesey of superfly hosting inc :)18:49
Vince-0see these two blog posts about getting Comptia Linux+, LPI1 and Novel CLA(?) certs18:49
Vince-0http://www.ceyhunkirmizitas.net/linux/linux-certification-pass-only-2-exams-then-get-comptia-linux-lpi-lpic-1-novell-cla-and-novell-dcts/18:49
Vince-0http://greg.porter.name/wordpress/?p=113718:49
magespawnVince-0: what was link from dlug? in the list?18:50
kbmonkey*notes links down for later*18:50
kbmonkeyqueery, the course material is free. you can opt for trainer led classes, those cost quite a sum, or you can self study. our group is self study18:50
Vince-0you want the latest version of materials, LPI1 was revised mid 201218:51
kbmonkeyif you feel you are not confident at the end, you can always take a course18:51
Vince-0or latest 2009? http://www.lpi.org/linux-certifications/programs/lpic-118:51
kbmonkeyI suggest join the channel #linux-studies for a chat around this18:52
inetprokbmonkey: I would say just go ahead and try make #linux-studies work18:53
inetprolots of potential there, though it will always be difficult to keep everyone on the same track18:53
kbmonkeyall these kinds of question queery we must note down into the wiki. it is good to have others ask the questions we do not think of 18:53
queeryAgreed18:53
kbmonkeyI dont see it as too linear - you dont have to all stay on the same trackexactly18:54
queerymagespawn: can you keep an eye on the wiki? 18:55
magespawnsure no problem18:55
queery:D dankie oom18:55
magespawnkbmonkey: those who are more advanced can help those behind18:55
kbmonkeythanks for this magespawn :) we can even throw in some extra beginner programming if anyone wants18:55
kbmonkeyexactly :)18:56
theblazehengood idea kbmonkey 18:56
magespawnbash and then python18:56
theblazehenAgree with magespawn 18:56
kbmonkeyI am in the studies channel whenever I am online (not away)18:57
kbmonkeywe just need to kick up some dirt and talk about it a bit more18:57
magespawnVince-0: may I post the link from the dlug mailing list?18:57
queeryCool in the channel 18:58
Vince-0? gogo18:58
magespawnhttp://www.ict-innovation.fossfa.net/wiki/public-wiki/foss-certification-training-material/lpi-training-materials-and-practice-testing-engines18:58
Kilosty magespawn 18:59
kbmonkeygreat but want to keep the irc meet a reasonable time. we can chat about this in detail at the other place 18:59
magespawnagreed18:59
kbmonkeylots of good links here, I'm grabbing them all for the wiki19:00
inetprokbmonkey: I suggest arranging a fixed meeting on a regular basis at #linux-studies19:00
queeryAgreed19:00
kbmonkeyI was more thinking to pop in once a day or every other day at a certain time19:00
queeryIs this the last topic? 19:01
inetprokbmonkey: sure19:01
kbmonkeyfor casual talk, a schedule is a good idea!19:01
kbmonkeyyes last topic19:01
kbmonkeyI vote to close off the meeting 19:01
inetpro+119:02
Kilossecond19:02
magespawn+319:02
kbmonkeyall interested learners: let us discuss this more after?19:02
kbmonkeyMaaz, topic elect next chair and closing comments19:02
MaazCurrent Topic: elect next chair and closing comments19:02
magespawnin #linux-studies?19:02
Kiloscool19:02
kbmonkeyyes, in the studies channel.19:02
kbmonkeyI invite everyone interested to hear more to join us!19:03
Kilosinterested peeps are there already19:03
kbmonkeyeven if it is brief to decide a time too meet again19:03
Kilosty19:03
queery23 Sep 830 next meet19:03
* inetpro suggests kbmonkey as chair for next meeting19:03
Kilossecond19:04
queery3rde19:04
Kilosty kbmonkey good meet19:04
theblazehen4thd19:04
inetprohmm...19:04
kbmonkeychair vote: me!19:04
kbmonkeyand Kilos second! ;)19:04
queeryAmen19:04
Kiloshehe19:04
kbmonkeyMaaz, agreed next meeting on 24 Sep, chair: kbmonkey19:05
kbmonkeyerr, I am sure I hit 23 there ;p19:05
MaazAgreed: next meeting on 24 Sep, chair: kbmonkey19:05
inetpronee19:05
kbmonkeyMaaz, agreed next meeting on 23 Sep, chair: kbmonkey19:05
MaazAgreed: next meeting on 23 Sep, chair: kbmonkey19:05
queeryHah19:05
kbmonkeycan maaz correct?19:05
inetprono19:05
kbmonkeyoh fiddlestick, nevermind :)19:06
kbmonkeythanks everyone!19:06
queeryMkay19:06
kbmonkeyno worries, just select max(next date)19:06
inetprokbmonkey: the mistake is forever cast in stone :-)19:06
kbmonkeyMaaz, end meeting19:06
MaazMeeting Ended19:06
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queeryLekker aand19:06
queeryBye19:06
Kiloscheers19:07
magespawnthanks kbmonkey19:07
kbmonkeycheers queery 19:07
kbmonkeyalright, updating agenda and creating our next one quickly19:07
Kilosnuvolari, jy nog hier?19:08
Kilosshame19:08
inetprokbmonkey: let me know when you've created the new agenda so I can change the topic above19:09
kbmonkeyinetpro, http://loco.ubuntu.com/meetings/ubuntu-za/645/detail/19:12
inetproty19:12
kbmonkeywe get stuck on reviewing previous minutes, don't we? like get carried away talking about thing we sposed to talk about later19:12
kbmonkeylol19:12
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inetprokbmonkey: true19:13
Kilosty inetpro 19:14
inetprokbmonkey: and that is very typical in everyday meetings as well19:14
kbmonkeyit is! happens every day at work 19:14
charlyeah but it's necessary but you can't just drop everything after the meeting19:15
charlafter the meeting there are action points for people and they need to go out and execute those19:15
charlsorry don't know what you call action points in english19:15
theblazehenooh http://www.vimperator.org/vimperator19:16
kbmonkeytasks :_)19:16
Kiloscharl, you not doing the study bit?19:16
kbmonkeyi love vimperator19:17
theblazehenGreat kbmonkey  :) I'm still learning19:17
theblazehenUsed to use sublime text19:17
Cantidegood night 'o'19:19
inetprokbmonkey: thanks for sitting in the hot seat19:19
charlKilos: maybe i'll sit in but i have quite a bit of experience already19:20
Kilosthen you share man19:21
magespawncharl: come be a mentor to the noobs19:21
charlmagespawn: cool i'm not sure if i'm good at teaching but i'll gladly sit in (when i can)19:27
charlmaybe i can give some tips :)19:27
magespawncool beans charl19:27
kbmonkeytips are always good19:35
Kiloscharl, put #linux-studies in your client 19:36
Kilosothewr wise youll never get there19:36
charlhmm, just remind me on this channel when you guys start please19:37
charlthen i'll join if i forget19:37
charlwhen i'm online is actually quite ad-hoc19:37
Kilosok19:38
Vince-0slaaptyd!19:59
magespawni am off to bed now, good night all20:40

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