[05:38] hello theblazesbot [05:43] >.> [05:43] lol [05:43] He's not working [05:46] morning peeps [05:46] omega i hate your nick, autocomplete wont work [05:46] hi theblazehen [05:46] hi kilos [05:47] hi theblazesbot [05:47] who's nick [05:47] Bad bot! Don't be stupid! [05:47] lol [05:47] hi barrydk [05:47] :) [05:47] Good morning everyone [05:47] yo not_found [05:47] hello theblazesbot [05:48] theblazehen, what bot is it [05:48] "Attempt to chat" bot [05:48] oh not an ibid [05:48] nope [05:49] Damn, this looks nice! http://i.imgur.com/eB9D1xE.png [05:49] dont play here too much with bots , the bosses moan [05:49] yeah [05:49] alo uncle Kilos [05:49] he don't wanna join #test :( [05:57] dont you have to start with the bots name [05:57] was wondering why my old cloak wasn't showing on /whois [05:57] nope [05:57] I think the creativity is set too high [05:58] !part #ubuntu-za [05:58] !theblazesbot part #ubuntu-za [05:58] theblazehen, im literally going deaf [05:58] Well put on your hearing aid and gtfo theblazesbot! [05:59] theblazehen, adran, we really don't care about your personal opinions [05:59] theblazesbot :( [06:11] lol [06:12] hehe shame the young uns [06:22] good morning [06:22] hi magespawn [06:23] how are things? [06:23] great ty and there [06:23] everything is working [06:25] awesome stuff, warm and sunny and everything is working [06:25] great [06:49] good morning [06:49] morning inetpro [06:53] Jonathan Carter... anyone here know him? [06:53] ya he was here when i started [06:53] not_found: why? [06:53] name rings a bell, why? [06:54] hiya maiatoday [06:54] ah just very active in Linux land and he is from SA... was staying in Canada but now back in SA [06:54] Probably because it's from the Baroom series [06:54] highvoltage? [06:54] Aka John Carter [06:54] :P [06:54] yeah [06:54] this is his channel methinks [06:55] ah very possible (I think I did ask many moons ago) [06:55] inetpro, hey? [06:55] I haven't seen highvoltage in years [06:55] i always used to lo highvoltage him [06:56] ah he is back here [06:56] well seeing as he is back on SA soil time to get him here again :p [06:56] http://jonathancarter.org/2013/08/25/still-alive/ [06:56] the pro knows what other channels he is on methinks [06:57] Maaz seen highvoltage [06:57] magespawn: highvoltage was last seen 4 months, 9 days, 12 hours, 23 minutes and 16 seconds ago in #ubuntu-za on freenode [2013-04-18 20:33:57 SAST], and has been offline on freenode since 2013-04-23 14:35:02 SAST [06:57] not_found: you'll find highvoltage in #ubuntu-meeting or other channels [06:58] even #kubuntu-devel [06:58] i go feed sheep [06:58] is that better magespawn ? [06:59] inetpro:k cool [07:12] Maaz, coffee on [07:12] * Maaz starts grinding coffee [07:13] Hi Kilos [07:14] magespawn, I got the info on the ubuntu server book, but it seems that the files are for the person that registered the account only. Not really very useful at all. It basically forces me to hog the book or pass it along illegally. [07:14] I am still hoping we'll get the print copy in which case we can pass it around. [07:16] ty for the info maiatoday [07:16] ironic really, where are they selling the book? [07:16] Coffee's ready for Kilos! [07:17] Maaz, ty [07:17] You are welcome Kilos [07:17] cocooncrash, thanks alot [07:24] well with the special that they had on the Ubuntu books I am sure any who was serious on having it could have gotten one... [07:30] hi Vince-0 [07:31] Hi Kilos! Ever vigilant [07:32] hehe [07:33] hi [07:33] Squirm, ! [07:35] * Squirm raises an eyebrow at Vince-0 [07:35] I wish more people were excited to see me :P [07:39] hi Squirm [07:40] ill always greet you. you got my first mxit going on pidgin [07:40] haha [07:40] I still have mxit connected to Pidgin [07:40] me too [07:41] but now its not such a schlep to get working [07:41] not that i chat to anyone there [07:41] i chat family there [07:43] eish just more and more to learn all the time [07:43] http://dsl.org/cookbook/ [07:45] :) [07:47] Maybe I should try my hand at writing one considering books like that sell [07:48] business is business [07:48] one needs to use knowledge to make an income [07:49] http://www.informit.com/promotions/promotion.aspx?promo=1393626 for those who are interested [07:49] hey Trixar_za are there lekker repos and all for slitaz or is it hard to use for beginners [07:49] My trouble is normally that I assume people at least have a competence in it. Most writers of those books assume the person knows nothing more than Windows. [07:50] try write stuff with no pc knowledge [07:50] We have a ever increasing repo, so it's not too bad. Just creating a stable Linux that can use it is half the problem [07:50] I see the promotion has ended [07:50] ok lemme know when you have it done [07:51] But it's a long story. The short version is that one day there was somebody that tried to change too much and ended up leaving a lot of things broken. Then he quit the project. [07:51] ah well not_found [07:51] i got the link from here http://ubuntu-discourse.org/t/official-ubuntu-server-book-3d-edition-now-available/935/2 [07:51] but it was a good one while it lasted :p [07:51] hey magespawn fixing things at times can make one very tired because it opens other avenues [07:52] I meant to mail it on the mailing list and it just dawned on me I had forgotten :/ [07:52] no worries not_found [07:52] like now maybe the 160g drive that only takes 7 now might be ok [07:52] yes it does Kilos [07:52] Hmmm [07:52] That book came out in 2004 @ Kilos [07:52] always looking at why things happen [07:53] they were all crashing with 12.04 and evolution installed [07:53] since purging evo i have had no probs on kde or unity [07:58] oo, Linux Pocket Guide looks good [07:58] lol ya first book i downloaded [07:59] Maaz, define GNU [07:59] Kilos: Gnu \Gnu\, n. [Hottentot gnu, or nju: cf. F. gnou.] (Zool.) One of two species of large South African antelopes of the genus {Catoblephas}, having a mane and bushy tail, and curved horns in both sexes. [Written also {gnoo}.] [1913 Webster] Note: The common gnu or wildebeest ({Catoblephas gnu}) is plain brown; the brindled gnu or blue wildebeest ({C. [07:59] gorgon}) is larger, with transverse stripes of black on the neck and shoulders. [1913 Webster], … [08:00] ai! [08:00] where do them wild cows fit in to using cli? [08:01] * not_found will be back later [08:01] GNU Not Unix [08:01] oh is that same as linux is from unix [08:02] or is gnu linux [08:04] i have to go out, bbl [08:04] go safe [08:06] ah GNU/Linux Command-Line [08:06] hi psyatw [08:06] hi Kilos [08:07] goo afternoon [08:07] *good [08:08] yo superfly [08:09] hi superfly [08:10] good morning superfly [08:11] Kilos: GNU is a recursive acronym for "GNU's Not Unix!", chosen because GNU's design is Unix-like, but differs from Unix by being free software and containing no Unix code. [08:11] hi ThatGraemeGuy [08:11] ty inetpro [08:12] Development of GNU was initiated by Richard Stallman in 1983 and was the original focus of the Free Software Foundation (FSF), but no stable release of GNU yet exists as of May 2013. [08:12] Interesting thing is that we can have completely non-gnu linuxes [08:12] :P [08:12] ai! [08:13] But you still have to build them using gcc which is ironic [08:13] Which is why I want to ask Richard Stallman that question [08:14] Is it still a GNU/Linux if no part of the end product is made by GNU? [08:14] hi inetpro [08:14] hi Trixar_za [08:14] hi psyatw [08:14] Trixar_za, what are your pcs specs [08:15] Trixar_za: indeed [08:15] as in a wanna try it on an old p3 [08:15] Pretty low. PIII 1,1GHz PC with 256MB RAM of which 16/32 MB is used for Video [08:16] hmm... [08:16] methinks my p3 is only 450m [08:18] but runs maverick fine [08:21] Mhz? [08:21] how much ram? [08:21] yeah [08:21] 640m [08:22] Then it should run fine [08:22] ty [08:23] Should be fine for newer kernel versions too considering that most distros are moving to i686 (meaning PIII is the minimum) [08:23] Might be a little slower with processor intensive stuff though [08:25] ya maverick also is a bit slow with things but still works [08:26] and does it come with a network manager or must one use sakis3g [08:27] SliTaz? It still needs sakis3g, but my custom package @ http://www.trixarian.net/SliTaz [08:28] seeing you are building from scratch cant you build sakis into it [08:28] excuse stupid questions [08:28] That's the plan [08:28] aha [08:28] I also want to include that one network manager [08:30] its good when a pc goes online from bootup without having to open the tool [08:31] https://connman.net/ [08:31] I want to make that the connection manager [08:31] cool [08:32] i looked at connman when i was struggling here [08:35] i see you have xchat but what about pidgin? [08:36] Pidgin is in the official package repository [08:36] My package just adds scripting support to xchat [08:36] ah thats good [08:37] Well, for TCL and Python scripts [08:37] can't get the perl ones to work [08:37] :P [08:37] I'm considering a Qt based desktop at the moment [08:37] https://github.com/Razor-qt/razor-qt/wiki/3rd-party-applications <--- pretty [08:39] as long as vlc can work too [08:40] VLC is Qt based [08:40] oh hi [08:50] bbl [10:38] hi Cantide [10:39] hello :) [10:39] i think i am a little early for the meeting >_> [10:39] haha [10:42] o/ Cantide not so you would notice [10:44] :) [10:45] \o [10:46] twit, [10:46] just as well we exporting him [10:46] 'o' [10:46] i might be exported quite soon '-';; [10:47] whats news? [10:47] looks like i will work in Yeouido, Seoul starting in October [10:47] the employer was supposed to email me some further details today but didn't -_- [10:47] nice coupla months then [10:47] so now i have to wait until tomorrow to know more [10:47] oh no [10:48] well, i'll need to get there in 4 or 5 weeks [10:48] so not really much time [10:48] great [10:48] assuming all goes to plan [10:48] yeah :) [10:48] Yeouido is a nice place, too :) [10:49] at least there someone will understand your quit message [10:49] http://conradhotels3.hilton.com/resources/media/ch/SELCICI/en_US/img/shared/full_page_image_gallery/main/CN_extandyeouido_8_700x525_FitToBoxSmallDimension_Center.jpg [10:49] oh, what is my quit message? lol [10:49] dunno weird squigles [10:50] oh~ [10:50] it's 시작이 반이다 [10:50] ya that [10:50] which is a saying.. [10:50] it means something like "getting started is half the work" [10:50] must you read it backwards or upside down [10:51] nope :p [10:51] hehe [10:51] "well begun is half done" [10:51] ah [10:51] :) [10:52] it's pronounced like so - shijaki banida [10:52] whew [10:53] how do they make them sounds out of gibberish [10:53] hahaha [10:53] more logically than English actually [10:53] * not_found will be back in time for the meeting hopefully... [11:48] hmm... ms ceo retires/resigns? [11:49] did i hear wrong [11:54] nope but only in 12 months i think [11:54] ah [11:59] MS stocked rose 7.5% with the news as well [11:59] lol [11:59] and with that rise, Balmer made just under $1B (1M?) [12:00] http://www.news24.com/Technology/News/Microsofts-Steve-Ballmer-to-retire-20130823 [12:00] on idiot box news they were wondering who would take over and if ms would break up [12:00] i don't think MS will collapse just yet [12:00] Apple will before them, i think [12:01] Apple haev too much money to collapse [12:01] *have [12:02] true [12:02] they could probably keep trying new things for the next 10 years hoping something sticks before they run out of money [12:02] but they would shut down if they were running at a loss with no end in sight [12:02] ah, true that [12:02] i had the pleasure of sitting with two apple fanboys last night [12:03] trying to justify some of the apple lunacy [12:03] i was sure to let that conversation die :D [12:03] I find myself surrounded by Apple fanboys often, but thankfully their fanboism has died down a little since they lost their God [12:04] but it still ammuses me when I show them something like KDE Connect on my Android Phone + KDE Desktop, and they have to try stifle their excitement and pretend they dont care [12:05] hehe [12:23] I recently had a somebody getting really excited about icloud and being able to install software across devices [12:28] SilverCode, haha :) [12:35] bbl fish time [12:38] https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/36318710/1236039_631165816915131_955571496_n.jpg [14:02] Cantide: happy cat [14:04] hey guys, maaz coffee please [14:08] Maaz, coffee on [14:08] * Maaz starts grinding coffee [14:08] hi theblazehen [14:08] hey Kilos [14:09] y eyes hurt :( [14:09] My* [14:09] i see peeps dont even check if there is such a channel as #linux-studies [14:09] what you been looking at [14:09] ah [14:10] 60Hz CRT [14:10] there is #linux-tutorials,which redirects to #nixtuts [14:10] sit further back [14:11] Not helping. Better at 70.2 Hz, but netbook won't support [14:11] this studies channel is our own controlled by kbmonkey [14:11] he did the work [14:11] Yeah [14:11] just saysing that people may find -tuts easier than -studies [14:12] lol [14:12] Coffee's ready for Kilos! [14:12] Maaz, define tuts [14:12] Kilos: I don't know about tuts. Maybe you meant Tut, nuts, tut, tutsi, guts, tues, tums, tutu, uts, tts or tsts? [14:12] Maaz, ty [14:12] You are welcome Kilos [14:12] tutorials [14:13] we started off with high hopes for LPI [14:13] do you have the manual [14:13] manual? [14:13] Maaz, LPI manual [14:13] http://www.linuxcertification.co.za/lpi-study-manual [14:14] nope [14:15] there's been a revision in LPI1 from mid 2012 - [14:15] Will get later, on desktop. Can't scroll properly here. Too laggy [14:15] get it then , sooner or later it will be done [14:15] k [14:15] you can write the exam and be qualified [14:15] Awesome [14:15] How much does it cost to write? [14:15] recognised world wide [14:16] whatever the varsity or test centre will cost [14:16] R1125 per exam x2 - ish at pearsonvue test center [14:16] ah ok [14:16] ty Vince_0 [14:16] kk, I'm busy practicing [14:17] it's not as easy as I thought [14:17] ah hey Vince_0 [14:17] good man [14:17] need to get 70% to pass [14:17] i gotta go rest a while [14:18] oh Vince_0 where do i join your lug lists [14:18] before i forget again [14:19] I'm not sure - I can check member list [14:19] theblazehen, check these blogs about details for comptia Linux+, LPI1 and Novel certs in one [14:19] http://www.ceyhunkirmizitas.net/linux/linux-certification-pass-only-2-exams-then-get-comptia-linux-lpi-lpic-1-novell-cla-and-novell-dcts/ [14:19] http://greg.porter.name/wordpress/?p=1137 [14:21] Kilos, kilosblunt? [14:21] thanks Vince_0 [14:22] ai! [14:22] DC? [14:23] hey? [14:23] DicConnected? [14:23] sorry was disconnected [14:23] lol ya [14:23] but modem never showed it [14:23] ah ok [14:23] oh theblazehen have you joined ours? [14:23] oUR lug? [14:24] our mailing list [14:24] yeah [14:24] good [14:25] how come you arent tuning your buddies to join us here [14:25] meeting tonight! [14:25] yes Vince_0 === Vince_0 is now known as Vince-0 === Kilos- is now known as Kilos [14:25] Kilos-, I try, but they never really stay [14:25] washouts [14:25] docs.google.com [14:25] at least everyone uses mail so the mail-lists should be first option for contact [14:26] oop[s [14:26] Vince-0, where do i join your lug lists please [14:26] mage forgot me [14:29] Durban LUG, I see a kilosblunt there already [14:30] oh that was the addy that opened when i last joined g+ [14:30] np [14:30] there must be more there too [14:30] https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/dbnlug [14:31] ai! [14:31] that g+ google is painful [14:31] yep, bit too social [14:31] not really for organising [14:31] you can see ms had a finger in the pie there [14:35] ok just added kilosblunt to thunderbird, will see if you peeps mail [14:36] inetpro, jaag hulle vanaand [14:37] uh? [14:39] by die skool vergadering man [14:39] sjoe [14:39] oh [14:39] why? [14:40] Vince-0: that is handy info about the linux exam and novell cert ty [14:41] so that you dont miss our meet. we need your input [14:41] even though the more you put in the worse my head hurts [14:41] now i go rest [14:45] magespawn, kk - [14:45] im out! bbl [14:50] ai! [15:07] see you at the meeting, later all [16:09] yeehaa [16:09] lo monkey [16:10] lo grams [16:10] hehe [16:10] hehe [16:11] did you rest Kilos ? [16:11] a while yeah ty [16:11] will lurk tonight [16:11] that is nice [16:11] i had to make dinner and did washing [16:11] na didnt help [16:11] awe [16:11] good lad [16:12] it helps even to lie down even if you dont sleep [16:12] its all this new stuffs messing up the head [16:13] need to play freecell only for a week [16:13] the card game? that is a fun one! [16:13] yeah [16:16] man, this google chrome render bug is so annoying! I hope this update fixes it [16:20] methinks meet might stretch time a bit tonight [16:21] why do you say that Kilos ? it starts at 8 right? we moved the time up as I remember [16:21] oh, 8 now? 'o' [16:21] 19.30 [16:21] whew :) [16:21] oh is it at 8pm [16:21]