[00:01] <jcorgan> well, thanks
[00:04] <mjw99> wilee-nilee; it's been insightful and thanks for the clarification
[00:04] <lloowen> Hello all -- Just migrated my Ubunt 12.04 LTS from an OpenVZ container to my local system. Things wen't OK but I just noticed that iptables has not been compiled into the kernel, which was copied from the backup. I've installed a newer kernel and it works OK. But when i reboot, some setting is not enabling iptables into the new kernel. Any ideas where I should look to delet this setting?
[00:06] <pinPoint> is there a way of creating your own cloud storage in ubuntu?
[00:09] <Anho> how do I copy/paste from host to ubuntu running in VirtualBox?
[00:10] <reisio> Anho: you'd want virtualbox guest additions installed
[00:11] <reisio> Anho: http://wvarner.blogspot.com/2008/05/installing-virtualbox-guest-additions.html
[00:11] <Anho> I did
[00:11] <reisio> Anho: you might have to enable it in prefs, too, I forget
[00:11] <reisio> I doubt it, think that's vmware
[00:12] <Anho> hmm
[00:13] <reisio> Anho: ah
[00:14] <reisio> Anho: prefs > General > Advanced (tab) > shared clipboard
[00:15] <Anho> ty!
[00:17] <heroinhero115> i keep getting an error when trying to install
[00:18] <heroinhero115> its the same error with any version of linux/ubuntu
[00:18] <heroinhero115> i'm stuck with 12.10 and really hate it
[00:18] <heroinhero115> is uprading advisable?
[00:18] <wilee-nilee> heroinhero115, Might you share the error?
[00:20] <heroinhero115> http://askubuntu.com/questions/65830/errno-5-input-output-error-when-trying-to-install
[00:20] <heroinhero115> this one
[00:22] <wilee-nilee> heroinhero115, Have you done any of the suggested options?
[00:22] <heroinhero115> yeah
[00:23] <wilee-nilee> heroinhero115, I will be glad to help you, however I am noticing just a lack of detailed posts and answers, does this make sense to you for a quick resolution, this is a free service. ;)
[00:24] <heroinhero115> not sure what you mean
[00:25] <wilee-nilee> heroinhero115, Cool, someone can help, not me best of luck. ;)
[00:27] <loadid_czech> heroinhero115: sounds like a hard drive failure
[00:27] <adminewb> is someone aware of the rationale, for why ubuntu consistently doesn't provide jigdo and jigdo template files, for "desktop" variants on a given release; alternate and server editions consistently do! 12.04.3 latest case in point
[00:27] <heroinhero115> would formatting do anything?
[00:27] <loadid_czech> if you used to use windows on it.. maybe needs a thourough chkdsk to fix errors first.
[00:28] <heroinhero115> windows and linux mint
[00:28] <startek> is there a Ubuntu iso that doesn't include all the ads to make you buy stuff like on the software center, Ubuntu One, Rhythmbox, Amazon.. etc
[00:28] <loadid_czech> if you can still boot into windows run scandisk and shutdown properly then try to reinstall
[00:29] <wilee-nilee> startek, You can turn all that off and remove it if needed.
[00:29] <loadid_czech> would be cool to have an analog clock widget that also shows lunar cycle
[00:29] <wilee-nilee> some of it anyway, not sure on the software center I never use it
[00:29] <heroinhero115> startek: anything but unity
[00:30] <startek> loadid_czech, i saw someone have one on a customized conky
[00:30] <wilee-nilee> adminewb, you can just do rsync or zsync unless you have to have gui.
[00:30] <heroinhero115> i think unity is the only one with spyware
[00:31] <adminewb> wilee-nilee ok but it still makes no sense to not provide jigdo's
[00:31] <wilee-nilee> adminewb, Its a 3rd party right?
[00:31] <adminewb> pardon?
[00:31] <startek> heroinhero115, is there a way to just use the unity side panel quick lanucher?
[00:32] <wilee-nilee> adminewb, Who puts together jigdo?
[00:32] <adminewb> i'm looking at http://releases.ubuntu.com/12.04/, it's been this way for years afaict
[00:32] <heroinhero115> not that i know of
[00:32] <adminewb> i've pointed it out before on this channel and nothing gets done
[00:32] <startek> i actually kinda like the unity quick launch panel heh
[00:33] <wilee-nilee> adminewb, look in development here. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jigdo#History
[00:34] <wilee-nilee> "Jigdo is no longer undergoing active development, but is in "maintenance mode" - development has stopped"
[00:34] <wilee-nilee> took ablut 3 seconds to find that
[00:35] <adminewb> wilee-nilee, i'm aware that no one is improving jigdo, but it's still plenty useful from my standpoint; debian still uses it to distribute images and so does ubuntu for some of the builds
[00:36] <heroinhero115> startek: it's such an eyesore. would be better if it wasn't fixed
[00:38] <wilee-nilee> adminewb, I suspect that what you find important is not necessarily shred b y everyone, debian is a good system, but is old in every respect but the unstable and it is undated. Maybe you should add in some way to having it work the way you think it should I guess. ;)
[00:38] <startek> when WinXP support ends i'll install a distro that has a single click quick launch on relatives' computers who are not good with computers
[00:39] <GSilva> I installed Ardour on Ubuntu 13.04 and I have no sound since that. Can anyone help?
[00:39] <Dr_Willis> XP the zombie of all OS's that MS just cant kill.. Wife and grandkids can handle Unity and Lubuntu just fine.
[00:40] <Dr_Willis> !info ardour
[00:40] <wilee-nilee> Dr_Willis`224 days till its death
[00:40] <Dr_Willis> wilee-nilee:  i belive its death has been reported/tried several times in the past also. ;)
[00:40] <adminewb> due to inertia then, the senselessness of partial support will continue
[00:41] <wilee-nilee> Dr_Willis, heh, yeah, that's the ##windows Chanel chant
[00:41] <GSilva> well, Clementine is working, but other then that... Nothing has sound
[00:42] <wilee-nilee> adminewb, There is a reason why we are not hunter gathers anymore in general, its called adaptation, it can be quite helpful to move on rather than stew on unfixable issues.
[00:42] <shortstraw8> I am looking for a program that I can modify some PDF files. All I need to do is add some red lines for a final positions on our antennas. I have tried gimp, libre draw and cad, and also blender none of these allow me to just draw. Anyone know of a good editor? running 12.04
[00:43] <mjayk> shortstraw8: gimme 2 secs
[00:43] <mjayk> shortstraw8: replicago reader
[00:44] <startek> shortstraw8, did you try copying the text to libre draw stuff and resave it as pdf?
[00:44] <mjayk> that never works formatting and funny chars go to pot
[00:44] <adminewb> the analogy doesn't work, sorry, and unfixable also is a distortion
[00:44] <pfifo> Hello everyone
[00:44] <mjayk> hihi
[00:45] <GSilva> can anyone help?
[00:45] <loadid_czech> shortstraw8: gimp would do what you needed it to do?
[00:45] <shortstraw8> startek, yes it is in pdf now, I have taken it to jpg, but the issue is I lose the the approved stamps from all the parent companies and engineers. I will try that mjayk thanks
[00:46] <loadid_czech> why would you take it to jpg shortstraw8?
[00:46] <loadid_czech> just edit the pdf and export a new pdf
[00:47] <startek> GSilva, maybe its muted
[00:47] <shortstraw8> loadid_czech, How do I just do a solid line cause my lines are all over the place
[00:47] <Muelli> I'd probably use TikZ.
[00:47] <shortstraw8> loadid_czech, So I could use libre draw
[00:48] <loadid_czech> shortstraw8: http://docs.gimp.org/en/gimp-using-simpleobjects.html
[00:48] <away99> i prefer inkscape
[00:49] <loadid_czech> you can use lots of things to draw simple straight lines shortstraw8...
[00:49] <startek> GSilva, maybe some kids made a how-to tutorial on youtube, try this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43ES7p4ejX0
[00:50] <shortstraw8>  loadid_czech sweet thanks! I seriously look for this exact thing, guess I should have just gone to the source.
[00:51] <GSilva> startek, I'm not interested on the application, I just removed it and... no sound
[00:51] <loadid_czech> GSilva: have you checked your audio prefs? you mabey need to move your sound card to the top of the list?
[00:52] <GSilva> btw, I have no sound on Chrome..
[00:52] <GSilva> loadid_czech, it's activated
[00:52] <loadid_czech> not activated, prefered
[00:52] <GSilva> yes, re-checked
[00:53] <GSilva> clementine works now (re-boot the pc)
[00:53] <GSilva> and so does Chrome
[00:53] <GSilva> thanks anyway :)
[00:53] <loadid_czech> sounds like somethings gettings piped incorrectly if clemintine still works... maybe your jack settings?
[00:53] <GSilva> I've removed jack and something went wrong in there...
[00:54] <loadid_czech> yeah, i don't think ardour would have messed up your sound... because I don't think it can, it would be dependent on the jack settings
[00:55] <pfifo> GSilva, you likely didnt stop jack, removing it might not actually stop the service
[00:55] <GSilva> yes, probably pfifo
[00:56] <loadid_czech> to get the obvoius out of the way GSilva.. you've rebooted?
[00:57] <loadid_czech> apt-get remove --purge jack
[00:57] <GSilva> loadid_czech, yeah, I did that and everything went back to normal :) Kind of new to Linux... Can't work out problems that easily
[00:57] <loadid_czech> or jackd maybe?
[00:57] <Dr_Willis> removeing jack may have removed other bits.. reinstalling 'ubuntu-desktop'or whatever desktop you use should make sure they are installed
[00:57] <loadid_czech> ugh
[00:57] <Dr_Willis> jackd confuses me too much. ;)
[00:58] <Seven_Six_Two> I'm guessing that this has already happened to someone, but I did a recent dist-upgrade on 13.04 server, and now grub doesn't timeout to the first option, it just waits, obviously that's not an option for a server...
[00:58] <loadid_czech> jackd is confusing, but works nicely in some cases
[00:59] <wilee-nilee> Seven_Six_Two, Have you tried running update-grub
[00:59] <pfifo> Seven_Six_Two, change the GRUB_TIMEOUT line in /etc/defaults/grub and then run `sudo update-grub`
[01:00] <pfifo> brb, switching kernels
[01:01] <TLoFP1> hi guys easy question: how can I change sound device?
[01:01] <TLoFP1> alsamixer lets me change sound card... but my sound card has HDMI and analog out
[01:01] <TLoFP1> I need to have it play on analog out, not hdmi
[01:02] <Dr_Willis> TLoFP1:  i seem to recall pavucontrol for that
[01:02] <TLoFP1> Dr_Willis: giving it a shot
[01:04] <TLoFP1> Dr_Willis: didn't work
[01:04] <TLoFP1> it doesn't have a section to switch between HDMI and analog
[01:04] <loadid_czech> TLoFP1: you need to have pulse audio installed for pavucontrol to work
[01:05] <TLoFP1> loadid_czech: already installed
[01:05] <TLoFP1> the thing is UBUNTU is talking to a sound card but no sound emits from laptop
[01:05] <TLoFP1> on either headphone jack OR build in speaker
[01:07] <Seven_Six_Two> wilee-nilee, not yet. I just got it down from the shelf and plugged it in to find the grub screen\
[01:07] <loadid_czech> TLoFP1: in pavucontrol what do you have selected as output device/port?
[01:08] <Seven_Six_Two> pfifo, I'll give that a shot, thanks.
[01:09] <loadid_czech> ohh... nevermind, i see you tried both.  have you rebooted TLoFP1?
[01:09] <TLoFP1> loadid_czech: no
[01:10] <Sach> Just did a fresh install of ubuntu, but the OS doesnt see my wireless hardware.  How do I 'activate' it?
[01:10] <TLoFP1> loadid_czech: pavucontrol seems to give me the option to switch to analog out
[01:10] <TLoFP1> but still no noise emittes from speakers
[01:10] <pfifo> Sach, what wireless hardware do you have?
[01:10] <Seven_Six_Two> interestingly, GRUB_TIMEOUT=2
[01:10] <TLoFP1> even though pavucontrol seems to indicate that it is playing
[01:10] <Dr_Willis> make sure you got the volume up on the speakers? ;)
[01:11] <wilee-nilee> Sach, this an internal wifi, can you identify it, lspci internal lsusb if usb.
[01:11] <Dr_Willis> and no headphones plugged in.. (did that last week)
[01:11] <usr13> TLoFP1: alsamixer
[01:11] <TLoFP1> usr13: alsamixer doesn't allow me switch away from HDMi
[01:11] <Sach> wilee-nilee: it's the wireless card that is preinstalled in my laptop
[01:11] <loadid_czech> TLoFP1: have you tried to do any interesting hacking to pipe audio into a recordable channel? that can mess things up sometimes
[01:11] <TLoFP1> it shows however that I am still set on HDMI, no matter what I select in pavucontrol
[01:11] <usr13> TLoFP1: You don't see the option(s) in alsamixer  ?
[01:11] <wilee-nilee> Sach, lspci in the terminal and tell up what it is.
[01:12] <TLoFP1> loadid_czech: no, im vanilla
[01:12] <Sach> pfifo: not sure exactly...whatever was preinstalled in the laptop by the manufacturer.
[01:12] <TLoFP1> usr13: no, I do not, I can change soundcards via f6
[01:12] <TLoFP1> but that is not what I am trying to accomplish
[01:12] <wilee-nilee> Seven_Six_Two, This sever the only OS installed on the HD?
[01:12] <loadid_czech> have you tried unplugging the hdmi.. maybe something is prefering hdmi over pavucontrol
[01:12] <pfifo> Sach, can you pastebin the output of `lshw`
[01:13] <TLoFP1> loadid_czech: hdmi is not pluged in
[01:13] <TLoFP1> just using laptop as is
[01:13] <usr13> TLoFP1: Anything muted? or turned down? (like PCM maybe?)
[01:13] <Seven_Six_Two> wilee-nilee, yes, and I did as you suggested and this reboot it defaulted properly
[01:13] <Seven_Six_Two> wilee-nilee, thanks!!
[01:13] <TLoFP1> usr13: no everything on 100%
[01:13] <wilee-nilee> cool
[01:13] <Sach> wilee-nilee: broadcom
[01:13] <loadid_czech> pavucontrol levels are moving you said, which means the system sees sound.. do you have jack installed?
[01:14] <TLoFP1> loadid_czech: jack as in software, or a audio jack pluged in?
[01:14] <wilee-nilee> Sach, Cool, we have broadcom wiki, pfifo is more knowledgeable here.
[01:14] <loadid_czech> jack software
[01:14] <TLoFP1> no
[01:14] <wilee-nilee> !broadcom | Sach just for info
[01:14] <Seven_Six_Two> although now I've noticed that it requires some usb keys that have fstab entries in order to boot. that shouldn't be. It should just put an error entry and resume as it's just data.
[01:14] <TLoFP1> installing now, report in a sec
[01:14] <usr13> TLoFP1: play /usr/share/sounds/alsa/*
[01:15] <loadid_czech> have you checked the audio settings of the individual program to make sure it's not piping audio somewhere wierd?
[01:15] <TLoFP1> usr13: play not installed
[01:15] <usr13> TLoFP1: install sox
[01:15] <TLoFP1> loadid_czech: all programs don't work
[01:15] <TLoFP1> across the board
[01:15] <TLoFP1> installing sox
[01:15] <loadid_czech> didn't you said clemintine worked? or was that someone else?
[01:16] <TLoFP1> loadid_czech: I made no reference to clemintine
[01:16] <TLoFP1> usr13: it is playing
[01:16] <TLoFP1> but no sound
[01:16] <TLoFP1> no error of any sort, just indicates sucessful playing, but my ears hear nothing
[01:16] <loadid_czech> when did sound break?
[01:16] <TLoFP1> loadid_czech: never worked
[01:17] <TLoFP1> fresh install of ubuntu
[01:17] <usr13> TLoFP1: Did you install sox?
[01:17] <TLoFP1> (you know: NSA + windows 8 = not fun)
[01:17] <TLoFP1> usr13: yes sox is installed now
[01:17] <loadid_czech> maybe hardware issue?  are you sure the speakers work?
[01:17] <TLoFP1> it allowed me to play alsa/*
[01:17] <Psil0Cybin> Hey guys quick question so when ever i randomly turn on my laptop sometimes out of the blue it will boot into console instead of the GUI i have tried to figure it out but i cant find a fix, and alot of people with an Acer Aspire one Laptop so someone suggested to look at Xorg.0.log and I have and posted the results here http://pastebin.com/13GhXjQY but i cannot figure out why it is happening
[01:17] <TLoFP1> loadid_czech: yes I dual boot Win7
[01:17] <TLoFP1> speakers work fine
[01:17] <loadid_czech> type beep in a console? do you get a post beep?
[01:17] <usr13> TLoFP1: It is a hardware issue.  Is it a laptop?
[01:17] <Psil0Cybin> can someone help me further diagnose the problem it happends randomly, and is fixed by a quick restart but it never used to happen
[01:17] <TLoFP1> loadid_czech: when I open alsamixer it clearly indicates that it is streaming to HDMI
[01:17] <TLoFP1> usr13: yes laptop
[01:18] <usr13> TLoFP1: Trun speaker volume(s) up.
[01:18] <TLoFP1> I just need to convnice the laptop to not pipe the audio to HDMI
[01:18] <TLoFP1> usr13: 100%
[01:18] <usr13> TLoFP1: Function Keys?
[01:18] <loadid_czech> TLoFP1: in you sound control prefs do you have hdmi prefered over your built-in-analog?
[01:18] <TLoFP1> usr13: controll system settings, tried all
[01:18] <usr13> TLoFP1: Or a mechanical volume control?
[01:19] <TLoFP1> loadid_czech: yes, in puvcontrol I see this
[01:19] <TLoFP1> usr13: nothing mechanical
[01:19] <loadid_czech> no, not in pavucontrol... in sound prefs
[01:19] <TLoFP1> loadid_czech: but selecting another "profile" did not change what alsamixer reports
[01:19] <usr13> TLoFP1: Function key combination?
[01:19] <TLoFP1> loadid_czech: I do not know how to get to "sound prefs"
[01:19] <TLoFP1> I can only get to "sound settings"
[01:19] <TLoFP1> from the pics I saw online these are two very different dialogs
[01:19] <loadid_czech> ok.. maybe sound settings.. looking for phonon
[01:19] <mouses> does anybody have a live stream MTV link?
[01:19] <TLoFP1> http://askubuntu.com/questions/41858/shortcut-to-switch-between-analog-stereo-output-hdmi-audio-output
[01:19] <loadid_czech> i think..
[01:20] <loadid_czech> or is phonon only a kde thing?
[01:20] <usr13> TLoFP1: What is the make and model of your laptop?
[01:20] <TLoFP1> i do not know how to pull up that window, it is what I need, I belive
[01:20] <loadid_czech> it's in your control panel
[01:20] <TLoFP1> Panasonic Toughbook CF31-MK2
[01:20] <TLoFP1> loadid_czech: how to get to control panel?
[01:20] <loadid_czech> where you set mouse things, and display resolutions etc... there's a sound one
[01:20] <pfifo> Psil0Cybin, im not seeing any X errors in that log, what exactly does it boot to?
[01:20] <TLoFP1> since unity I can't find my ass with a map in ubuntu anymore
[01:20] <Psil0Cybin> pfifo: randomly when i turn on my laptop instead of getting to the GUI I get to a Terminal login
[01:21] <Psil0Cybin> so username and password
[01:21] <Psil0Cybin> and the only way to get into gui is to type startxfce4
[01:21] <Psil0Cybin> but then it loads without Window Compositing or what ever (so no transparency) but then I restart
[01:21] <Psil0Cybin> and it works perfectly fine
[01:21] <Psil0Cybin> and it happens just randomly out of the blue
[01:21] <TLoFP1> when I type control panel into the unity launcher I only get pictures of womens underware
[01:21] <TLoFP1> while pleasent to look at, they don't get my sound working
[01:21] <pfifo> Psil0Cybin, startxfce4 isnt the right way to start X
[01:21] <Psil0Cybin> so technically i cannot turn on my laptop and go to the other room because 1/9 chances it will boot into terminal instead of my login screen...and i have to fix it by restarting
[01:21] <Psil0Cybin> but it just boots into terminal
[01:22] <Psil0Cybin> without a GUI
[01:22] <loadid_czech> Psil0Cybin: sounds like a driver issue.. your gui crashes when it tries to start with composting
[01:22] <Psil0Cybin> which is abnormal
[01:22] <Dr_Willis> !manual | TLoFP1
[01:22] <Psil0Cybin> loadid_czech: but it happens once in a blue moon
[01:22] <loadid_czech> do you have an nvidia card Psil0Cybin?
[01:22] <Psil0Cybin> nothing consistant
[01:22] <Psil0Cybin> nope i have a acer aspire one
[01:22] <Dr_Willis> top right gear/whatever it is - icon - has some menu/with a settings item
[01:22] <Psil0Cybin> loadid_czech: but it only started doing it randomly
[01:22] <Psil0Cybin> like out of th blue this never used to happen
[01:22] <Psil0Cybin> and i didnt change anything
[01:22] <pfifo> Psil0Cybin, is this log from when you experience this problem?
[01:23] <Dr_Willis> then i  notice  a 'system settings' icon in the unity left side panel. ;)
[01:23] <Psil0Cybin> pfifo: this is a log from the second i got back into Xfce after restarting
[01:23] <Psil0Cybin> so i have to record a log from when it happens?
[01:23] <usr13> TLoFP1: How about the "keyboard volume and mute controls"?
[01:24] <usr13> TLoFP1: (Page 2 of  http://www.cdsofficetech.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/tb31.pdf )
[01:24] <pfifo> Psil0Cybin, next time it happens get the most active log while at the terminal, and grep it for the string EE to see if there are errors
[01:24] <Psil0Cybin> pfifo: just because it happens every random time
[01:24] <Psil0Cybin> okay thanks pfifo
[01:24] <Psil0Cybin> i will try that!
[01:24] <loadid_czech> it doesn't sound to me like anything is muted, you just have the wrong sound card selected
[01:24] <simon_> hi, all
[01:25] <loadid_czech> hello simon_
[01:25] <simon_> is this offfical of ubuntu?
[01:25] <loadid_czech> this is a community driven public help chat room
[01:26] <pfifo> simon_, yes it is
[01:26] <simon_> Wow, the first i use it!
[01:27] <pfifo> welcome
[01:27] <TLoFP1> mhh so, laptop froze... :( anyways, ubuntu has super fast boot :)
[01:27] <simon_> Wow, the first i use it!! but now i use the OS with Windows XP SP3
[01:28] <TLoFP1> now I still haven't found out how to access "sound preference"
[01:28] <TLoFP1> and every mention of "control panel" refers to a time when unity didn't exist
[01:28] <usr13> TLoFP1: What about the keyboard volume and mute controls?
[01:28] <loadid_czech> i'm pretty sure it's in there somewhere TLoFP1... the gear icon thing
[01:28] <Dr_Willis> !manual | simon_
[01:28] <pfifo> simon_, normally this channel is reserved for support requests, for general chat, /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:28] <Dr_Willis> simon_:  you install it..or run it in virtualbox. - then use the OS.
[01:28] <TLoFP1> loadid_czech: thats settings
[01:29] <loadid_czech> yeah, sound settings
[01:29] <TLoFP1> I can get to sound settings, but thats not the same as sound preference
[01:29] <loadid_czech> symantics
[01:29] <tragalo> ahh it's a wonderful day
[01:29] <TLoFP1> loadid_czech: http://i.stack.imgur.com/VbPFu.png
[01:29] <TLoFP1> that is what I am looking for
[01:29] <simon_> Oh, I have installed the Ubuntu 12.04.3, the really is i have a question about Gnome-shell
[01:30] <TLoFP1> my sound settings does give me those options
[01:30] <loadid_czech> there you go
[01:30] <TLoFP1> loadid_czech: thats not my screen, thats some one elses
[01:30] <TLoFP1> loadid_czech: it is to show what I am looking for
[01:31] <TLoFP1> loadid_czech: in sound settings, I have all the tabs the above pictures shows: EXCEPT for Hardware
[01:31] <TLoFP1> which seems to be where the crucial setting is hiding out
[01:33] <usr13> TLoFP1: cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp
[01:34] <TLoFP1> usr13: permission denied
[01:34] <TLoFP1> even with sudo
[01:35] <usr13> TLoFP1: Never mind.    What about the keyboard volume and mute controls?
[01:35] <Ubuntu> Yo.
[01:35] <TLoFP1> usr13: everythign turned up
[01:39] <usr13> TLoFP1: Do you have 13.04 Ubuntu?  32bit?
[01:39] <TLoFP1> 64bit
[01:39] <TLoFP1> 13.04
[01:39] <usr13> TLoFP1: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[01:40] <TLoFP1> already did that
[01:40] <Sach> Trying to run this from terminal: "sudo apt-get remove --purge bcmwl-kernel-source", but am asked if another process is using it.  What is this?
[01:40] <usr13> TLoFP1: Reboot?
[01:40] <loadid_czech> bcmwwl is broadcom wireless drivers Sach
[01:41] <Sach> loadid_czech: yes, but why won't it allow me to remove it?
[01:41] <pfifo> Sach, please pastebin the error
[01:41] <loadid_czech> sounds like it's being used.. maybe disable wi-fi and try again?
[01:41] <Sach> pfifo, how do I do that?
[01:41] <usr13> TLoFP1: sudo apt-get remove pulseaudio ?
[01:41] <loadid_czech> that's an idea TLoFP1
[01:41] <TLoFP1> done
[01:41] <TLoFP1> now what? reinstall?
[01:41] <loadid_czech> apt-get remove --purge pulseaudio
[01:42] <pfifo> Sach, got http://fpaste.org and copy and paste the output thats in the terminal
[01:42] <lgc> Hi, my Ubuntu is in /dev/sda3. If I join /dev/sda1 and /dev/sda2 (Windows partitions) with Gparted, will it take care of updating Grub's and fstab entries?
[01:42] <TLoFP1> loadid_czech: done
[01:42] <TLoFP1> looks like I need to reboot
[01:42] <TLoFP1> brb
[01:42] <usr13> TLoFP1: play /usr/share/sounds/alsa/*
[01:42] <pfifo> lgc, no
[01:42] <wilee-nilee> lgc, no
[01:43] <lgc> Oops, pfifo wilee-nilee.
[01:43] <Sach> pfifo, done.
[01:43] <wilee-nilee> lgc, YOu can;t join with gparted per-say
[01:43] <pfifo> Sach, and then paste the link to the resulting webpage here
[01:43] <wilee-nilee> lgc, Is sda1 the boot partition for winodws?
[01:43] <Dr_Willis> lgc:   you may need to resize sda1, copy the data from sda2 to sda1 then resize again.. untill you take up all of sda2
[01:43] <lgc> wilee-nilee: By joining I mean deleting and reformatting to NTFS.
[01:43] <polluxtroy> new to using linux as main os have tried it before liked it decided to switch.... any advice
[01:43] <Sach> pfifo: http://fpaste.org/34706/48136713/
[01:44] <Dr_Willis> polluxtroy:  totally depends on what you need the OS to do. ;)
[01:44] <pfifo> Sach, it looks like your running another instance of apt-get or another package manager
[01:44] <palos> polluxtroy: I love linux, but at work I continue with Windows
[01:44] <wilee-nilee> lgc, Ah cool, if you delete them partitions above can change numbers so be careful to remake one as is.
[01:44] <lgc> wilee-nilee: Yes.
[01:44] <startek> is the windows key used for anything in ubuntu?
[01:44] <loadid_czech> Sach: reboot and try again
[01:44] <TLoFP1> back
[01:45] <TLoFP1> all sound gone now :)
[01:45] <Dr_Willis> startek:  Unity makes  a LOT of use of the windows key
[01:45] <wilee-nilee> startek, winodws key?
[01:45] <usr13> TLoFP1: play /usr/share/sounds/alsa/*
[01:45] <loadid_czech> windows key unlocks the basement door?
[01:45] <palos> polluxtroy: I don't have time to convert all my documents & templates
[01:45] <wilee-nilee> wnndows*
[01:45] <Dr_Willis> startek:  press hold windows = shows list of shortcuts.. tap it = brings up the Dash
[01:45] <lgc> Dr_Willis: I am not interested in keeping sda1 and sda2's info.
[01:45] <wilee-nilee> lol
[01:45] <TLoFP1> usr13: its playing
[01:45] <TLoFP1> but no sound
[01:45] <Dr_Willis> lgc:  then you are not joining :) you are deleteing/remakeing. ;P
[01:45] <lgc> Dr_Willis: right.
[01:45] <usr13> TLoFP1:  What about the keyboard volume and mute controls?
[01:46] <pfifo> windows key doesnt do anything in lubuntu, might as well pry it off the keyboard
[01:46] <TLoFP1> usr13: don't work anymore
[01:46] <palos> polluxtroy: LibreOffice isn't 100% compatible (they're very close)
[01:46] <loadid_czech> you can remap the key
[01:46] <usr13> TLoFP1: So, it is broken?
[01:46] <TLoFP1> usr13: yes because I just unsitalled, as was suggest
[01:46] <loadid_czech> i think it should open the K menu by default.. but that's for another #
[01:46] <TLoFP1> now I do not have any sound settings anymore
[01:46] <lgc> Still, Dr_Willis, wilee-nilee, what matters to me is /dev/sda3 and its ability to boot after such operation.
[01:47] <usr13> TLoFP1: *keyboard* volume and mute controls?
[01:47] <TLoFP1> alsamixer still works though
[01:47] <TLoFP1> usr13: yes, they no longer change system settings
[01:47] <wilee-nilee> lgc, What are you actually doing just one new partition or two?
[01:47] <usr13> TLoFP1: Not sure I understand what you are saying.  What no longer changes system settings?
[01:48] <TLoFP1> usr13: the physical buttons, no longer change the volume in alsamixer
[01:48] <loadid_czech> as long as you don't move sda3 or mess with the boot loader you'll be good lgc.. resizing partitions won't hurt
[01:48] <TLoFP1> usr13: furtheremore in the system bar, I no longer have a speaker icon
[01:48] <usr13> TLoFP1: Have you tried headphones?
[01:48] <TLoFP1> usr13: sound settings also does not report a sound card anymore
[01:48] <TLoFP1> usr13: yes I have
[01:48] <loadid_czech> maybe if you delete sda1 if that's where grub resides could cause a problem but i'm not sure on that one
[01:48] <lgc> wilee-nilee: From two partitions I want to have just one. I wonder if Gparted will do the renumbering or if the numbering can be non-consecutive.
[01:49] <usr13> TLoFP1: Have you tried a set of headphones?
[01:49] <TLoFP1> usr13: yes
[01:49] <wilee-nilee> lgc, what are sda1 and sda2?
[01:49] <usr13> TLoFP1: Update alsa
[01:49] <lgc> loadid_czech: You mean that after I delete and reformat the partitions before sda3 it will still be sda3?
[01:49] <TLoFP1> usr13: newst version
[01:49] <dassouki> looking for a document collab and task management CMS of some sort for a group of 10 folks .. low budget so FOSS is ideal
[01:50] <loadid_czech> yes lgc
[01:50] <wilee-nilee> loadid_czech, Not in my exsperience at least in a exteneded
[01:50] <Obi1Kenobe> hello
[01:50] <lgc> wilee-nilee: They are Windows recovery and Windows. If I am right, you were kindly giving me advice as to what could be wrong with them the other day.
[01:51] <Obi1Kenobe> any way i can install gnome 2.6 on ubuntu 12.04?
[01:51] <usr13> TLoFP1: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshootingProcedure
[01:51] <lgc> loadid_czech: So it won't be automatically renumbered.
[01:51] <TLoFP1> usr13: looked at that already
[01:51] <usr13> TLoFP1: "Step 3"?
[01:51] <loadid_czech> nope, won't be renumbered
[01:52] <loadid_czech> sda3 will stay sda3
[01:52] <wilee-nilee> lgc, When I have removed partitions in a extended partitions with gparted they ones above went down a number, I assume this happens with primaries.
[01:52] <lgc> loadid_czech: Allright!
[01:52] <loadid_czech> you may actually have trouble removing sda2
[01:52] <ice-man> how to fix "cheking battery state '' on backbox
[01:52] <ice-man> ?
[01:52] <loadid_czech> you can format it.. and resize it.. but sometimes you thing they will join together.. but the partitions act like jackasses and won't combine like you think they should.  still will be okay though
[01:52] <Dr_Willis> ice-man:   the 'backbox' linux disrto?
[01:53] <ice-man> yeah , i guess
[01:53] <Dr_Willis> mergeing 2 primary partions  or 2 logicals in a extendeed partion should work.
[01:53] <usr13> ice-man: What version of Ubuntu is it?
[01:54] <lgc> wilee-nilee: this is somewhat in contradiction with what loadid_czech says, I'm afraid. loadid_czech, what do you say about this?
[01:54] <usr13> ice-man: 12.04?
[01:54] <Dr_Willis> ice-man:  if its not an official ubuntu variant.. then its not supported here. Id check that disrtos web site to find its support channels.
[01:54] <usr13> ice-man: Ctrl-Alt-F6  ?
[01:54] <Dr_Willis> http://www.backbox.org/
[01:54] <loadid_czech> maybe that does depend on if they are primary or logical partitions
[01:54] <TLoFP1> usr13: http://pastebin.com/VKJeMG6S
[01:55] <Dr_Willis> BackBox is a Linux distribution based on Ubuntu. It has been developed to perform penetration tests and security assessments
[01:55] <loadid_czech> just make sure you update-grub before you reboot after partition editing and you should be fine.
[01:56] <loadid_czech> if you're at all concerned.. don't delete any partitions.. just use them as extra storage
[01:56] <ice-man> what i get if i use  Ctrl-Alt-F6 ?
[01:56] <Obi1Kenobe> how can bring down the menu from top corner to the bottom corner on Gnome  12.04?
[01:56] <ice-man> excuse for my english
[01:56] <lgc> loadid_czech: I need the space in order to mount Windows again.
[01:57] <Dr_Willis> Obi1Kenobe:  you mean in gnome-shell? or unity? or gnome-classic mode?
[01:57] <usr13> ice-man: What *do* you get when you do Ctrl-Alt-F6 ?
[01:57] <machstem> hey, anyone here ?
[01:57] <usr13> ice-man: tty6?
[01:57] <Obi1Kenobe> gnome-shell
[01:57] <machstem> that can help me?
[01:57] <bim> nope...place is empty
[01:57] <wilee-nilee> !anyone | machstem
[01:57] <Dr_Willis> Obi1Kenobe:  i would check out the various gnome-shell ext4ensions to see what tweaks they have
[01:57] <machstem> hey, I was wondering if anyone is around to help me out with a weird issue installing xubuntu on a ASUS EEE PC Flare Series
[01:57] <TLoFP1> usr13: let me try turning sound on in windows real quick, brb
[01:57] <lgc> loadid_czech: Can I run Gparted from sda3 if I am not going to move it?
[01:58] <machstem> I wanted to install xubuntu 12.10 for my daughter on this thing, and the process seems to go, but all throughout the install I see a message about "unable to enumerate usb device on port 1".  It goes on, over and over and over again, throughout the installer, and then on reboot after a successful install, it constantly floods the screen.  I never end up seeing a GUI, just a init3 login prompt.  It's so bad I can't even see myself type si
[01:58] <machstem> over and over again.
[01:58] <wilee-nilee> machstem, State the issue for help.
[01:58] <machstem> I installed the OS using a USB drive; having use the ubuntu usb installer method.  There are no options for me to disable USB ports in the BIOS of this thing.  I'm at a loss as I haven't been able to find anyone who can help.  I tried a command:  update-usbids and the command worked, but the messages keep appearing repeatedly.
[01:58] <machstem> there :)
[01:58] <loadid_czech> illogical question lgc
[01:58] <machstem> copy/pasted from #xubuntu
[01:58] <Obi1Kenobe> thanks Dr_Willis
[01:58] <lgc> Why so, loadid_czech ?
[01:58] <Dr_Willis> machstem:  seen a similer issue on a laptop i had with a Bad Webcam built in. But i was able to start the Live-cd Desktop installer with no issues. the console was constantly flooded with messages.
[01:59] <ice-man> soo can i fix this fuckin' problem ?? i don't know how to fix it ... i guess i have to say tht i'm a begginer , i use linux from 3 days nd after i made the 'updates' i get this error
[01:59] <Dr_Willis> machstem:  i either disabled the webcam in the bios. or i edited the /etc/sysctl.conf once i had it installed to turn off the logging of messages.
[01:59] <ice-man> its possible to fix tht error ???
[01:59] <Dr_Willis> ice-man:  you are using  the Linux from    http://www.backbox.org/  ?
[01:59] <Obi1Kenobe> what error ice man?
[01:59] <loadid_czech> i don't think you'll have a problem lgc.. just make sure you run update-grub before you reboot.. if your partition numbers change update-grub will catch it and still let you boot into linux
[02:00] <usr13> ice-man: What *do* you get when you do Ctrl-Alt-F6 ?
[02:00] <Sach> just ran a command in the terminal, but got a message I don't understand: http://fpaste.org/34708/74823661/
[02:00] <usr13> ice-man: What error do you get?
[02:00] <usr13> ice-man: What *do* you get when you do Ctrl-Alt-F6 ?
[02:00] <machstem> Dr_Willis:  the BIOS is really limited and I can't seem to disable anything but the SATA controller (ugh)…but that's definitely a good start.  But what would prevent me from seeing the xubuntu login prompt; I sit at a init3 login prompt
[02:01] <Dr_Willis> machstem:  could be a bad cd/iso/burn/made usb. would be my guess.
[02:01] <Dr_Willis> machstem:  you see the login: on the INSTALL cd/usb? correct?
[02:01] <usr13> ice-man: Ctrl-Alt-F6 =  Hold down Ctrl and Alt keys while hitting the F6 key.  (Tell us what happens when you do that.)
[02:01] <lgc> yes, loadid_czech, that part I got. What I'm not sure of is if I can afford to run grub from my HD without risking my linux.
[02:02] <loadid_czech> still not making sense lgc
[02:02] <machstem> Dr_Willis:  I get a successful install, but when I expanded the details during the installer I could see that enumeration over and over again.  The installer completed and I rebooted and now I only see the textbased login prompt
[02:02] <TLoFP1> usr13: im back
[02:02] <TLoFP1> still no sound :(
[02:02] <lgc> sorry, loadid_czech. What doesn't make sense?
[02:02] <loadid_czech> missing that hardware tab may be of issue TLoFP1
[02:03] <Dr_Willis> machstem:  you may need to get the proper video drivers setup and thats being a pain due to the hardware issue.
[02:03] <TLoFP1> loadid_czech: yes, what did we unstill earlier (I can't scroll back due to reboot)
[02:03] <Sach> how do I remove bcmwl-kernel-source ?
[02:03] <loadid_czech> pulse audio TLoFP1
[02:03] <pfifo> Sach, when you run a program that installs packages it creates a file to say 'hey, im installing stuff' if any other program should then decide to install stuff, and it sees that file is there it will say 'Hey, i cant safely install this right now'
[02:03] <loadid_czech> sach apt-get remove bcmwl-kernel-source
[02:03] <machstem> yeah, on the #xubuntu chan someone suggested i find a different version, 13.04 possibly will work
[02:03] <TLoFP1> i reinstalled pulse audio and rebooted, but still don't see the speaker symbol in the system tray
[02:03] <TLoFP1> i used before uninstalling pulse audio
[02:03] <usr13> TLoFP1: Did you update alsa ?
[02:04] <Sach> pfifo, I just rebooted, so there is no other program running...
[02:04] <TLoFP1> usr13: alsa is up to date
[02:04] <TLoFP1> usr13: via sudo apt-get install alsa
[02:04] <loadid_czech> is it in the extended system tray TLoFP1? maybe you have a little arrow icon that shows extra system tray icons?
[02:04] <pfifo> Sach, then you can safely delete /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[02:04] <usr13> TLoFP1: "Step 3"?
[02:04] <TLoFP1> loadid_czech: no arrow icon
[02:04] <Sach> pfifo, what is the command to do so?
[02:04] <TLoFP1> usr13: posted output already
[02:04] <Dr_Willis> !fixapt
[02:05] <netlar> Is Ubuntu planning on integrating Google calendar in the system tray calendar?
[02:05] <usr13> TLoFP1: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshootingProcedure  "Step 3"  (Do it.) Update alsa  using instructions in "Step 3".
[02:05] <pfifo> Sach, `sudo unlink /var/lib/dpkg/lock`
[02:05] <pfifo> Sach, do what ubottu said
[02:06] <loadid_czech> lgc: let's start at the begining... why are you resizing partitions?
[02:07] <TLoFP1> usr13: I ran step3, now what?
[02:07] <lgc> I never said I am resizing partitions, loadid_czech. I said I wanted to leave sda3 untouched. Perhaps it makes sense to you now.
[02:07] <usr13> TLoFP1: I don't know, you tell me  ;)
[02:07] <Sach> pfifo, the first command from ubottu worked, but the second command produced this: http://fpaste.org/34709/13774828/
[02:07] <loadid_czech> what are you trying to do lgc?
[02:08] <TLoFP1> usr13: well I will try another reboot
[02:08] <pfifo> Sach, you put that » in there, its not part of the command
[02:08] <lgc> loadid_czech: I want to wipe out sda1 and sda2, which are Windows and Windows Recovery, and reinstall Windows in that space, leaving sda3 untouched.
[02:08] <wilee-nilee> lgc, You want windows again right in the same place?
[02:09] <loadid_czech> you're confused lgc
[02:09] <lgc> wilee-nilee: Yes, but I don't need the recovery partition anymore.
[02:09] <pfifo> Sach, its all one command, sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[02:09] <lgc> loadid_czech: Am I?
[02:09] <Dr_Willis> lgc:  if you just delete sda1 and sda2 and leave them unallocated. the system should still boot in my experience. reinstaling windoww will overwrite the  bootloader
[02:09] <loadid_czech> but besides being confused about what you are trying to accomplinsh...
[02:09] <wilee-nilee> lgc, Use the windows manual install to remove those partitions and install
[02:09] <loadid_czech> if you reinstall windows, you're going to bork your grub, not your sda3
[02:10] <wilee-nilee> lgc,yeah and you will have to reload grub in  the mbr no biggie use the bootrepair tool from a live cd.
[02:10] <Dr_Willis> lgc:   it also may depend on how you are putting windows back on. some system 'recovery' modes may erase other partions on the hard drive. while a Normal Windows installer should give you options
[02:10] <loadid_czech> and if you can't figure out how to resize partitions correctly, i'm definatly not going to try and explaining chrooting into your existing ext3 to update-grub on your newly installed bootloader compliments of windows
[02:10] <loadid_czech> good luck
[02:10] <TLoFP1> usr13: listening to radio
[02:11] <TLoFP1> ears are engulfed in musical glory :-)
[02:11] <TLoFP1> wow this was retarded
[02:11] <TuRnIP> what file explorer begings with n or r ahain
[02:11] <loadid_czech> TLoFP1: what was the fix?
[02:11] <TuRnIP> 4 letters
[02:11] <TLoFP1> loadid_czech: boot into windows, unmute sound
[02:11] <TLoFP1> boot back into linux
[02:11] <loadid_czech> what?
[02:11] <loadid_czech> wtf?
[02:11] <TLoFP1> yea
[02:11] <TLoFP1> I saw a reference to it on the googles
[02:11] <TLoFP1> it mentioned a particular toshiba laptop that exhibited this behavior
[02:12] <loadid_czech> must be a bios setting?
[02:12] <Dr_Willis> TLoFP1:  ;) ive seen some WEIRD sound cards where if i cold booted straight to ubuntu/linux they would work.. if i booted to windows. then rebooted back to linux without powering off - they wouldent initilize properly. ;)
[02:12] <TLoFP1> since very view people have a panasonci CF-31, and even viewer install linux on it, not much about my particular laptop was available online
[02:12] <TLoFP1> but I guess im one of those lukcy laptops :P
[02:12] <loadid_czech> interesting...
[02:13] <loadid_czech> i wonder if the aliens know about that yet
[02:13] <TLoFP1> I belive that "muting" under windows changes something in bios
[02:13] <usr13> TLoFP1: Ok, glad you got it.  (It may be that it is a BIOS setting to mute it.)
[02:13] <lgc> wilee-nilee, Dr_Willis so I proceed with normal Windows installation and I'll eventually run into some options to proceed with the partitions. Am I right?
[02:13] <usr13> TLoFP1: Right
[02:13] <usr13> TLoFP1: I think you are correct.
[02:13] <TLoFP1> this laptop has a "stealth" mode that among other thing has the ability to mute all sounds from bios
[02:13] <TLoFP1> and I belive this is also controllable via windows through a panasonic driver
[02:14] <TLoFP1> it could be that this was somehow embbeded into the sound controll
[02:14] <loadid_czech> would have to be bios or some kind of bios-level chip on the sound card itself
[02:14] <usr13> TLoFP1: Quite possibly.
[02:14] <TLoFP1> so when I muted it, it physically turned it oof
[02:14] <TLoFP1> off*
[02:15] <TuRnIP> help
[02:15] <wilee-nilee> lgc, This a standard windows install disc?
[02:15] <TLoFP1> anyways, quite interesting stuff
[02:15] <TuRnIP> what file browser begins with r or n 4 letters
[02:15] <loadid_czech> you need to yell fire TuRnIP.. no one cares when people need help
[02:15] <lgc> wilee-nilee: Fresh from the Internet... ;) .
[02:16] <lgc> wilee-nilee: So I suppose it is standard.
[02:16] <wilee-nilee> lgc, this a legitimate MS disc?
[02:16] <pfifo> TuRnIP, try asking best bot in #ubuntu-bots
[02:16] <lgc> wilee-nilee: It's a test version, I suppose.
[02:17] <wilee-nilee> lgc, What release?
[02:17] <usr13> TuRnIP: Are talking about a file manager?
[02:17] <lgc> wilee-nilee: 8.
[02:17] <TuRnIP> nero i think it is
[02:17] <wilee-nilee> lgc, 8.1?
[02:17] <lgc> wilee-nilee: I'm not sure.
[02:17] <TuRnIP> how do I remove the delete option from its file right click menu
[02:17] <Hexagonite> Can anyone help me with Virtualbox? I get 'The VirtualBox Linux kernel driver (vboxdrv) is either not loaded or there is a permission problem with /dev/vboxdrv.' when starting a machine.
[02:17] <xmetal> ok trying to figure out how to get that other distro i use installed on my older laptop ... not counting the issues with ploop boot manager (not getting into that) it seems like its about to boot (liveusb) then suddenly the external CRT goes out and doesn't come back on
[02:18] <Hexagonite> I tried running the command it says but it couldn't find the script.
[02:18] <TuRnIP> move to trash should still be there tho
[02:18] <pfifo> TuRnIP, likely have to edit the source code
[02:18] <loadid_czech> Hexagonite: you need to run /usr/share/virtualbox.drv or something
[02:18] <xmetal> (old laptop with burnt out LCD light.. .hence the reason for the CRT)
[02:18] <usr13> TuRnIP: Why?
[02:18] <Hexagonite> loadid_czech: couldn't find it :(
[02:18] <TuRnIP> incase I hit the wrong option
[02:18] <usr13> TuRnIP: Why would you want to remove the delete option?
[02:18] <wilee-nilee> lgc, You want the manual part of the partitioning is all it will allow you to remove those partions and reinstall in its place, you will need to reload grub to the mbr is all the bootrepair tool from the live ubuntu disk works nicely.
[02:18] <loadid_czech> i can't remember the exact path.. but it's something like that Hexagonite
[02:19] <TuRnIP> im kinda blind almost too...
[02:19] <qin> TuRnIP: attach red tape to Del key?
[02:19] <Hexagonite> loadid_czech: the error said the path but just like what I said
[02:19] <wilee-nilee> lgc, Just be sure you hit the manual portion of the partitioning.
[02:19] <TuRnIP> that key will be mapped to move to trash
[02:20] <pfifo> I had a system once, it was running a website, and I had it move stuff to /dev/null instead of deleting things due to technical limitations, it only took 4 months until I ran out of inodes
[02:20] <loadid_czech> run as sudo Hexagonite?
[02:20] <usr13> TuRnIP: Delete option as well.
[02:20] <TuRnIP> then stuff can be deleted from there
[02:20] <Hexagonite> loadid_czech: of course, still not found
[02:20] <qin> TuRnIP: or remap key so new Del would be somwhere far...
[02:20] <TuRnIP> serioustly bro
[02:20] <wilee-nilee> lgc, This is a mbr setup as of now right not a uefi gpt partitioning right?
[02:20] <lgc> wilee-nilee: OK, so the boot repair tool will spare me from reinstalling Ubuntu and I must proceed with manual partitioning on Windows.
[02:21] <xmetal> hmm
[02:21] <qin> There is no gui file manager deleting file with no shift-del combo
[02:21] <wilee-nilee> lgc, This is a mbr setup as of now right not a uefi gpt partitioning right?
[02:21] <TuRnIP> how to make wizards for linux
[02:21] <lgc> wilee-nilee: what is a uefi gpt?
[02:21] <loadid_czech> what command did you try Hexagonite?
[02:21] <wilee-nilee> lgc, Are you in ubuntu?
[02:21] <xmetal> will finish my snack and start googling
[02:21] <TuRnIP> is there some tool in ubuntu for to do this
[02:21] <pfifo> TuRnIP, look into programming with quickly
[02:21] <Hexagonite> loadid_czech: sudo '/etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup'
[02:22] <loadid_czech> and that said not found Hexagonite?
[02:22] <TuRnIP> ?
[02:22] <lgc> It's on my other machine, wilee-nilee. Do I need to check it?
[02:22] <Hexagonite> loadid_czech: yep
[02:22] <Hexagonite> loadid_czech: 'sudo: /etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup: command not found'
[02:22] <loadid_czech> i'd try installing again, something didn't take right?
[02:22] <wilee-nilee> lgc, If you don't know already yes, run sudo fdisk -l from that ubuntu and pastebin it.
[02:22] <loadid_czech> do you have a /etc/init.d/vboxdrv folder?
[02:22] <Hexagonite> I tried to reinstall it again with 'sudo apt-get install --reinstall virtualbox'
[02:23] <TuRnIP> bash can do all this?
[02:23] <loadid_czech> apt-get remove --purge virtualbox and download the .deb file from virtualbox.org
[02:23] <Rallias> Is there a ubuntu equivelant to RHEL et al.'s kickstart system?
[02:23] <Hexagonite> loadid_czech: there are no folders on /etc/init.d :(
[02:24] <TuRnIP> whats the equivelant to an api or runtime library in bash
[02:24] <Hexagonite> loadid_czech: I also got this on reinstall 'No suitable module for running kernel found'
[02:24] <Dr_Willis> TuRnIP:  bash, python, perl, depends on what you want to do exactly
[02:24] <loadid_czech> ummm... no folders in init.d
[02:24] <loadid_czech> you have other problems
[02:24] <wilee-nilee> lgc, I suspect you are mbr, just making sure don't want to live up to my nick. ;)
[02:24] <lgc> wilee-nilee: not much from fdisk -l
[02:25] <Dr_Willis> TuRnIP:  python may be the best tool for the job on ubuntu. but it depends on what you need the wizards to do exactly
[02:25] <loadid_czech> sudo fdisk -l
[02:25] <wilee-nilee> lgc, sudo fdisk -l
[02:25] <TuRnIP> ah ok
[02:25] <Hexagonite> loadid_czech: does that include financial problems
[02:25] <lgc> Yes, that's what I did.
[02:25] <TuRnIP> bbl
[02:25] <wilee-nilee> lgc, l is a small L
[02:25] <Dr_Willis> l as in List. ;)
[02:26] <lgc> Yes, of course.
[02:26] <wilee-nilee> lgc, its a partition lister
[02:26] <lgc> What info do you want.
[02:26] <Dr_Willis> poor fdisk - dosent support --list ;)
[02:26] <wilee-nilee> lgc, all of it
[02:26] <lgc> It reports four partitions.
[02:26] <loadid_czech> Hexagonite: i would try to download virtualbox .deb file and try again
[02:26] <wilee-nilee> !pastebin | lgc
[02:26] <Hexagonite> I'm actually downloading it right now
[02:27] <Dr_Willis> sudo fdisk -l | pastebinit
[02:27] <wilee-nilee> lgc, put all of it including the command in the pastebin and post the url/
[02:28] <wilee-nilee> or  sudo fdisk -l | pastebinit if you have pastebinit installed
[02:29] <lgc> pastebin.com/y2VTTE1S, wilee-nilee
[02:30] <wilee-nilee> lgc, Looks good no gpt you can just use the manual install from the windows disc
[02:30] <lgc> Dr_Willis: when I do that nothing happens. Is it supposed to return the URL?
[02:30] <wilee-nilee> lgc, The W8.1 is supported free for just a short time is all.
[02:30] <lgc> wilee-nilee: OK, thanks.
[02:31] <wilee-nilee> allowed free that is
[02:31] <lgc> wilee-nilee: OK.
[02:31] <wilee-nilee> enjoy
[02:31] <lgc> wilee-nilee: you bet! Thanks!
[02:34] <Dr_Willis> lgc:  it works here
[02:34] <wilee-nilee> Dr_Willis, has to be installed I  believe.
[02:35] <Dr_Willis> should return a command not found/use the following....   if its not installed i imagine
[02:35] <wilee-nilee> should be part of the install, I mean we are beyond a cd anyway, "my rant"
[02:35] <majornick> I need to get familiar with the filesystems. my question is on 13.04 desktop. when i want to search for a certian file. I can use nautilus to navigate to my file system under "computer" but then once i am there i need a linux background to understand where to look for certain files. is there an easier way or do we need to learn all the file systems and where to look for certain files to use Ubuntu effectively?
[02:36] <loadid_czech> what files are you looking for majornick?
[02:36] <Dr_Willis> majornick:  most of the  'bash' tutorials will cover file/path basics. thats where i would start
[02:37] <Dr_Willis> majornick:  in nautilus (the file manager) you can hit ctrl-l i think to show the path to where the stuff is you are looking at
[02:37] <reisio> majornick: what sort of files are you looking for?
[02:37] <Dr_Willis> 'computer' here is just the /  of the filesystem
[02:37] <majornick> loadid_czech: Well today i was wondering to browse to lok for a possilbe Unity-greeter-wallpaper file to see if i could change the unity greter log in scren wall paper. i al ready removed the white dots from that screen so i was looking for that where those files might be
[02:37] <Dr_Willis> so a better name would be 'root filesystem'  instead of 'computer;
[02:37] <qin> majornick: in terminal: man fs #manual for file system in your box
[02:38] <reisio> majornick: configuration things like that tend to be in /etc/
[02:38] <wilee-nilee> majornick, Once you figure it out I believe it has to be a ping
[02:38] <reisio> majornick: if you have locate or mlocate, you can also use 'locate *foo*' to find things, and for more dynamic searching, you can use find / -iname '*foo*'
[02:38] <Dr_Willis> the default wallpaper used to be in /usr/share/backgrounds/
[02:38] <palos> Hello!
[02:38] <reisio> majornick: but most of the time what you should do is ask the package manager where things are
[02:38] <Dr_Willis> i never have figured out the reason for the 'dots' on the lightdm wallpaper
[02:39] <reisio> majornick: dpkg -l lists installed packages (dpkg -l | grep -i konversation)
[02:39] <reisio> majornick: dpkg -L konversation would list where that package's files are
[02:39] <majornick> Dr_Willis: see that is what i was talking about. you know that by heart. i ned to obviously get familiar with where file slike this reside in general
[02:39] <Dr_Willis> majornick:  just explore the filesystem
[02:39] <wilee-nilee> for the graphing aficionados to feel at home. ;)
[02:39] <palos> I'm trying to make Xubuntu 13.04 faster. Any advice?
[02:39] <reisio> palos: more ram
[02:39] <wilee-nilee> more power captain
[02:40] <Dr_Willis> palos:  moar ram.. :) or switch to lubuntu.
[02:40] <reisio> if there were really simple ways to make it much faster, I'm sure the Xubuntu guys would've already implemented them
[02:41] <majornick> reisio: so -l is list and -i is "information" about that package file sytem list of files?
[02:41] <palos> reisio: You're right...
[02:41] <Dr_Willis> sudo apt-get install moar-ram ;P
[02:41] <reisio> you can build Xfce without GNOME support, but that'd be a lot of work, and the moment you installed anything else it'd be blown away
[02:41] <reisio> majornick: no, for dpkg, -l is list installed packages, and -L foo is list files installed by package foo (run 'man dpkg')
[02:41] <palos> Dr_Willis: Thanks...
[02:41] <Sillvester> -i is ignore case
[02:41] <majornick> -L foo got it
[02:41] <reisio> majornick: | grep -i foo means pass the output to the 'grep' command, and case-insensitively (-i) search for the string 'foo'
[02:42] <reisio> probably isn't necessary for dpkg -l's output, but it frequently is necessary, and causes no harm :)
[02:42] <majornick> man i gotta get this CBT nugget comp tia training vids for Linux + and stop being so lazy :(
[02:43] <Sillvester> ps
[02:44] <uronu> Hello guys, I got a problem using vncveiwer remote desktop.
[02:44] <uronu> ssh: connect to host administrator port 22: No route to host
[02:44] <uronu> vncviewer: Tunneling command failed: /usr/bin/ssh -f -L 5599:localhost:5900 192.168.x.x@administrator sleep 20.
[02:44] <wilee-nilee> majornick, always be certifiable. ;)
[02:45] <majornick> wilee-nilee: Ubuntu and this whole experience has motivated me to learn these things as well as Net+ and Sec+. Ubuntu has changed my life recently for the better. If it wasnt for ther core group of sould here on this IRC this would not be happening to me. thanks guys .. really...
[02:47] <basix> hello, all. I am running Ubuntu 12.04 LTS and would like to install jetty 8. I enabled the backports but jetty 8 doesn't seem to present there. How do I install jetty 8? It only seems to be available starting Quantal's repo( https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/jetty8 ). WOuld not like to upgrade since I want to stay with LTS.
[02:47] <wilee-nilee> majornick, heh, I learned what I know while studying several other fields in college, just having to get my first computer and it happened to have ubuntu 6.0, mine is all armchair obsession.
[02:48] <wilee-nilee> !info jetty
[02:50] <wilee-nilee> basix, I find this on google, not in the repos for 12.04 I believe. https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&output=search&sclient=psy-ab&q=+jetty+8+12.04&btnG=&gbv=1&sei=PMIaUqWgAui8igKm04D4AQ
[02:51] <majornick> wilee-nilee: i am obsessed now too. i guess thats why the "open source" is so important. 20 years of this and i will still be learning something new every day. I am here for the long haul. good to meet you  guys and thanks for being so patient and helpful
[02:51] <cac> HELP!!! i accidentally my hard drive after installing ubuntu!!!
[02:51] <basix> wilee-nilee, yeah ok i'd rather use a ubuntu package
[02:51] <loadid_czech> i do that to my hard drive all the time
[02:51] <wilee-nilee> basix, Cool, not an area I'm familiar with.
[02:52] <reisio> cac: pardon?
[02:52] <basix> wilee-nilee, http://blog.sleeplessbeastie.eu/2012/10/08/ubuntu-precise-install-youtube-dl-package-using-quantal-repo/
[02:52] <basix> that is the solution to be problem - i think
[02:52] <cac> reisio: I accidentally my hard drive
[02:52] <loadid_czech> just p-flash the d-ram and awol be okay
[02:52] <reisio> cac: did you? :)
[02:52] <reisio> cac: accidentally my?
[02:52] <cac> I DID NOW HURRY QUICK
[02:52] <reisio> hehehe
[02:52] <cac> im about to leave
[02:53] <wilee-nilee> basix, This for downloading youtube?
[02:53] <wilee-nilee> don't let the door hot you on the way out
[02:53] <wilee-nilee> hit*
[02:53] <L3top> cac you have not stated a problem
[02:54] <majornick> i have been using ProTUbe on my iPhone for so long i dont even know. then i just ftp the files to me comp if i need to.
[02:54] <cac> L3top: i accidentally my hard drive
[02:54] <L3top> you accidentally (did what with) your hard drive
[02:54] <loadid_czech> if you're trying to save youtube files try the dlhelper add-on in firefox
[02:54] <L3top> cac: ^
[02:54] <reisio> L3top: he's just kidding around
[02:55] <loadid_czech> NOTHING!!! ABSOLUTELY NOTHING!!!
[02:55] <cac> L3top: i accidentally my hard drive after installing linux ubuntu
[02:55] <reisio> loadid_czech: ?
[02:55] <loadid_czech> what cac did to the hard drive
[02:55] <basix> wilee-nilee, it talks about using the quantal repo to install a package on precise. thats what i wanted to do - instead of youtube i will install the jetty8 package
[02:55] <loadid_czech> nothing
[02:55] <reisio> ah
[02:55] <basix> looks like it worked
[02:56] <cac> >.< you guys are terrible i have to leave
[02:56] <reisio> heh
[02:56] <loadid_czech> another satisfied customer... WTG team! thanks for working at comcast
[02:56] <wilee-nilee> basix, keep an eye on that repo is all for anything added you might not want or comment it out when done.
[02:57] <basix> yep
[02:57]  * wilee-nilee looks for my worlds smallest violin
[02:57] <alumno> wne
[02:58] <majornick> root acess on an iPhone is a must. its  just a fancy phone without it...:(
[02:58] <alumno> hlasssss
[02:58] <majornick> bbl #ubuntu thanks again
[03:08] <neurocache> exit
[03:13] <elementary-site2> Hi all, can anyone make partition recommendations for a full install on an 8gb pendrive?
[03:14] <cfhowlett> elementary-site2, xubuntu or lubuntu is my recommendation
[03:15] <elementary-site2> cfhowlett: I'm after partition sizing recommendations rather than variant recommendations. Sorry if I didn't make that clear.
[03:15] <cfhowlett> elementary-site2, stock ubuntu filesystem takes about 6 gigs ...
[03:16] <wilee-nilee> elementary-site2, ext4 and a swap if you think you needs one
[03:16] <wilee-nilee> may be n room for a swap it seems
[03:16] <wilee-nilee> no*
[03:16] <digs> I moved a website from freebsd to ubuntu. I am having issues with some config due to a reference to /usr/home/foo... when ubunutu only has /home/foo.
[03:16] <digs> How can find those references on the command line?
[03:16] <digs> or should I just do a ln.?
[03:18] <digs> This is not going to be the only site... and I don't know if I want to spend hours and hours fixing those paths. However, ln seems like a bad cheat that isn't a good long term migration solution.
[03:18] <digs> comments?
[03:20] <MasterChef> hello all
[03:21] <reisio> 'lo MasterChef
[03:21] <wilee-nilee> MasterChef, How are rouge you
[03:21] <wilee-nilee> are
[03:21] <reisio> digs: ln might work
[03:21] <reisio> digs: and if it works you can use lsof and figure out what you might want to change to not have it
[03:21] <MasterChef> !sound | grep alxndr
[03:23] <MasterChef> it's 'Chief' but nick is too long :-<
[03:23] <reisio> 'lo MasterChief in perfect world
[03:23] <digs> reisio - thank you for the comment.
[03:23] <elementary-site2> cfhowlett: (I'm a complete noob to Linux in general) so should I have a single partition of the full ~7.2gb or whatever free space is available? Do i need to specify anything for a swapfile or seperate the boot from the general filesystem etc?
[03:24] <Aethrs> Is there a way to disable/eradicate cram-md5 authenticate and enable plaintext authenticateion for uw-imap ?  I don't have access to plaintext passwords for the config file so I absolutely can not utilize cram-md5... yet it seems mandatory without a recompile?
[03:24] <cfhowlett> elementary-site2, use the whole stick, follow the
[03:24] <MasterChef> man i slept for 4 hours after working on the 'phone'.... i was tweeking
[03:24] <MasterChef> haha
[03:25] <reisio> digs: also egrep -ilr '\/usr.*?home' / (will take ages)
[03:25] <cfhowlett> elementary-site2, try without swap for now.  If it runs superslow, you might consider adding swap on, but it IS a stick so ...
[03:28] <elementary-site2> cfhowlett: ok cool. Do I need to set a partition for /boot?
[03:28] <rmichnik> Elem
[03:29] <cfhowlett> elementary-site2, nope.  install process will handle it for your
[03:29] <cfhowlett> *you*
[03:29] <reisio> what'd you settle on, one big partition?
[03:29] <wilee-nilee> elementary-site2, What is the OS on the computer?
[03:30] <elementary-site2> cfhowlett: Ok, thanks
[03:30] <elementary-site2> reisio: following cfhowlett's advise, yes
[03:30] <cfhowlett> elementary-site2, best of luck
[03:30] <reisio> elementary-site2: what fs? :)
[03:31] <Sach> did a fresh install of ubuntu 13.04. Struggling to install a driver for wireless. My wireless hardware is BCM 4311.
[03:31] <reisio> elementary-site2: mkfs.ext4 -O ^has_journal might give you a performance boost (over plain ext4)
[03:31] <elementary-site2> wilee-nilee: I have Windows 7 on this laptop. However I'm currently running a Live CD of Elementary and about to make a full install onto the pendrive
[03:32] <elementary-site2> reisio:  8GB
[03:32] <MasterChef> reisio, you are very kind :/
[03:32] <elementary-site2> 8gb*
[03:32] <reisio> fs type I meant :)
[03:32] <reisio> MasterChef: :)
[03:32] <cfhowlett> Sach, get a hardline connection, run your additional drivers script and it should automagically install
[03:33] <elementary-site2> reisio: my bad. ext4.
[03:33] <wilee-nilee> elementary-site2, Cool,  make sure you have a windows install or recovery disc, onec in a graet while people get the grub bootloader put into the MBR of the computer.
[03:33] <reisio> elementary-site2: mkfs.ext4 -O ^has_journal might give you a performance boost (over plain ext4)
[03:33] <Sach> cfhowlett: sorry, can you break that down for me please?  what is a hardline connection? And how do I run my additional drivers script?
[03:34] <cfhowlett> Sach, wired connection?  not wifi.  then see settings>additional drivers
[03:34] <wilee-nilee> elementary-site2, Will not happen with a manul install and grub pointed correctly, but you want to be prepared is all.
[03:34] <xmetal> hunting down my issue on my distro's forums
[03:34] <xmetal> brb
[03:35] <Sach> cfhowlett: additional drivers is not listed under settings.  However, I remember that it used to be there in previous ubuntu versions...
[03:36] <elementary-site2> reisio: ill check it out, thanks!
[03:36] <elementary-site2> wilee-nilee: i
[03:37] <elementary-site2> *i'm hoping I get it right :p
[03:37] <reisio> you better get it right, or the world will end
[03:37] <wilee-nilee> likely you will, just having the right tools makes life easier
[03:38]  * wilee-nilee ducks and covers
[03:38] <cfhowlett> Sach, sorry.  I'm on xubuntu so my setup is different.  but if you plug your computer into your wifi router, you'll get a hardline connection.  then run the additional drivers utility
[03:39] <Sach> ok, I'm on a hardline connection right now.  But how to I run the additional drivers utility?
[03:39] <wilee-nilee> Sach, Have you run a update?
[03:39] <cfhowlett> Sach, as I said, I don't run ubuntu, so I can't specifically guide you to the right place.  perhaps use dash to search for "additional drivers"?
[03:40] <wilee-nilee> Sach, You can get to it via the software center-edit
[03:40] <lotuspsychje> morning to all
[03:41] <wilee-nilee> top oh the mornin
[03:41] <lotuspsychje> :p
[03:41] <revolver14> I think the unity ui makes things more complex, personally.
[03:41] <reisio> revolver14: what do you think impersonally?
[03:41] <wilee-nilee> lol
[03:41] <elementary-site2> is the bootloader installed on /dev/sda or /dev/sda1 (ie the partition)?
[03:41] <revolver14> Try LXDE.
[03:42] <Sach> wilee-nilee: I am in 'Additional Drivers', but do not see my wireless hardware (BCM 4311) listed.  Why might this be?
[03:42] <reisio> elementary-site2: for keeping Windows on the hard disk?
[03:42] <wilee-nilee> elementary-site2, sdx or A be sure that is the mbr of the usb run sudo fdisk -l to check
[03:42] <lotuspsychje> !b43 | Sach
[03:42] <reisio> elementary-site2: you'll probably want to put the boot loader on the usb device, and use your bios boot menu to boot to it, or Windows' boot menu
[03:44] <elementary-site2> Sorry, it's not sda. It's sdc. I think I gave everybody a heart attack (including myself) when i read over that, haha
[03:44] <wilee-nilee> elementary-site2, I was ready to hde under my oak desk. ;)
[03:44] <reisio> hahahah
[03:44] <reisio> did you use hde on purpose? 'cause that's awesome
[03:45] <wilee-nilee> just me and my tinfoil fez
[03:45] <reisio> as in /dev/hda, /dev/hdb, … /dev/hde
[03:45] <reisio> puntastic
[03:46] <revolver14> Sach, you'd better download it from the manufacturer's website.
[03:46] <wilee-nilee> the cats outside everyman for themselves. ;)
[03:46] <elementary-site2> So, should the bootloader be in /dev/sdc or /dev/sdc1?
[03:46] <wilee-nilee> elementary-site2, sdc
[03:46] <reisio> elementary-site2: of sdc is the right device :)
[03:46] <reisio> s/of/if
[03:46] <reisio> sofif
[03:47] <dyu> what's the advantage of using the chris-lea ppa?
[03:47] <cfhowlett> !ppa|dyu,
[03:47] <wilee-nilee> free dinks
[03:47] <wilee-nilee> drinks*
[03:47] <reisio> elementary-site2: it's normal for the boot loader to be installed to the beginning of a device and not a partition, but when you're dual booting with a _single_ drive (as opposed to two or more, as you are), you sometimes want to install it to a partition instead
[03:47] <dyu> i'm in a new project and it seems to use it a lot
[03:48] <reisio> dyu: sure chris lea isn't a coworker?
[03:49] <dyu> pretty sure he isn't ;-) seems to be a somewhat popular ppa
[03:49] <lotuspsychje> any way i could see syslog errors in a unity indicator somehow?
[03:49] <reisio> seems to have a lot of web-related stuff in it
[03:50] <reisio> I'm guessing someone had some reason
[03:50] <reisio> like some support in some app that they wanted was missing
[03:50] <reisio> probably for something new and fancy
[03:50] <elementary-site2> reisio: so it should be placed in the partition? the main issue that has me concerned is that i only have the single partition with all of the available storage space dedicated to it, so i'm not exactly sure where it'd go if i was to select /sdc
[03:50] <reisio> elementary-site2: the device, sdX not sdX#
[03:50] <reisio> elementary-site2: don't worry about that, your partition application left space
[03:51] <reisio> if you installed to a partition it wouldn't actually be put into the filesystem of that partition, either
[03:51] <reisio> but right before the partition itself
[03:53] <MasterChef> One american, one french and one bulgarian were riding in a train in Indonesia. As they were talkin',
[03:53] <MasterChef> a fine lady walks in. So, the bulgarian, being the gentleman he is offered her a seat next to him. But she
[03:53] <MasterChef> chose to sit between the French and The American. They involved her in the conversation and she was moved
[03:53] <MasterChef> A LOT by the kind words by the gentlemen around them. So, all of a sudden, she rips one out loud. The
[03:53] <MasterChef> American being the gentleman he is said: 'scuse me! They kept talking without paing much attention to
[03:53] <FloodBot1> MasterChef: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:53] <MasterChef> what just happend. I minute later , the lady rips one out loud again. The French, being the gentleman he is
[03:54] <cfhowlett> !ot|MasterChef,
[03:54] <MasterChef> pardon me
[03:54] <MasterChef> i couldn't hold it
[03:57] <Sach> wilee-nilee: I followed the instructions that you pointed me to, but I still don't have wireless connectivity :(
[03:59] <wilee-nilee> Sach, that is the general wiki we show I thought the other nick responding pfifo would know more I'm not up on broadcom.
[04:00] <dyu> reisio: yeah, i'm under the impression that it's for the shiny. thanks! :D
[04:00] <xmetal> hmm never considered this method  before but looking at wubi for older laptop i have
[04:02] <user_> Greetings, anyone here know if there is a list of phased updates that failed, and were cancelled?
[04:02] <wilee-nilee> Sach, here is more info that might be relevant. http://askubuntu.com/search?q=BCM+4311
[04:03] <xmetal> wonder if that world work with my other distro
[04:04] <exidos> !guidelines
[04:04] <exidos> thx ubottu
[04:06] <wilee-nilee> Sach, THis looks to be the most relevant. http://askubuntu.com/questions/55868/how-to-install-broadcom-wireless-drivers/60395#60395
[04:10] <wilee-nilee> user_, Never seen such a list myself, is there a problem?
[04:12] <Sach_> Does anyone here have experience with installing the BCM4311 wireless driver?
[04:12] <cfhowlett> Sach_, I've done it..
[04:13] <Sach_> cfhowlett: I've been trying to hours now, no luck  :(
[04:13] <cfhowlett> Sach_, I used the No Internet Connection method and had it up and running after 2 minutes of terminal commands.
[04:13] <cfhowlett> Sach_, ubuntu version?
[04:13] <Sach_> cfhoelett: I just upgraded to 13.04
[04:14] <Sach_> cfhowlett: I've tried the no internet connection method too, but no luck.
[04:14] <cfhowlett> Sach_, ow.  not cool.
[04:15] <Sach_> cfhowlett: I've also visited 'Additional Drivers' and Broadcom is not even listed there...
[04:15] <Sach_> cfhowlett: but it was under 12.03 from whcih I upgraded!
[04:15] <cfhowlett> Sach_, that means ubuntu didn't detect it right.  Final option: go to broadcom, download the driver and compile it yourself
[04:16] <Ubnoobtu> How do I change rooms in this IRC?
[04:16] <wilee-nilee> Ubnoobtu, /join #channel
[04:16] <Ubnoobtu> yo, Wilee, What's up
[04:16] <Sach_> cfhowlett: wow.  seems like I might have to, but I'm not very good with that stuff..
[04:17] <wilee-nilee> just my blood pressure. ;)
[04:17] <wilee-nilee> heh not really
[04:17] <cfhowlett> Sach_, no better way or time to learn.  Pain in the neck, but ... you'll officially become an ubuntu guru!
[04:18] <user_> wilee-nilee, Myself and others are noticing problems since the phased-upgrades, see here for example: https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/1209442
[04:18] <Sach_> cfhowlett: oh dear.  I don't even know how to install a tar.gz file  :s
[04:18] <Ubnoobtu> Okay, does anyone know what the best channel to go to would be to learn more about being anonymous and secure.
[04:18] <cfhowlett> Sach_, there is a "ReadMe" with the download
[04:19] <cfhowlett> Sach_, http://www.broadcom.com/support/802.11/linux_sta.php
[04:20] <Sach_> cfhowlett: actually, there's no readme.  But there is a "Makefile (text/x-makefile)"
[04:20] <cfhowlett> Sach_, I beg to differ   http://www.broadcom.com/docs/linux_sta/README.txt
[04:21] <Sach_> cfhowlett: strange, I don't see that in my download.
[04:21] <cfhowlett> Sach_, you have to get the driver and the README.txt.  It's on the download page.
[04:22] <wilee-nilee> user_, have you seen this, we have not seen this in general on this channel. http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/04/how-to-reset-unity-compiz-in-ubuntu-12-10-and-13-04
[04:23] <Sach_> cfhowlett: thanks, I'll try my luck  ;-)
[04:23] <wilee-nilee> user_, You using any PPA's?
[04:24] <DotCom123> Hello there. I have some problem in my CD ROM. While reading its contents it often shuts down automatically after about 15-20 minutes. Now i have downloaded ubuntu 12.04.3 LTS ISO and successfully wrote it on DVD on another computer. Now my question is that does ubunut 12.04.3 supports RAM boot, in which initially all the contents of DVD are copied on to RAM and then installation can begin...
[04:24] <DotCom123> ...from RAM?
[04:24] <cfhowlett> DotCom123, why not use USB?
[04:24] <DotCom123> cfhowlett: My PC don't supports it.
[04:24] <DotCom123> It's old :/
[04:25] <DotCom123> I have seen this option of RAM booting in Gparted and Backtrack.
[04:25] <cfhowlett> DotCom123, if it's that old, you might be better off with xubuntu/lubuntu which will fit on a CD so ... no dvd
[04:25] <wilee-nilee> user_, I also notice mention of the closed source drivers in the bug report so we have some possible variables to contend with, so details will go a long way.
[04:26] <MasterChef> I have seen the same stuff in SUSE and Slackware, but this is different man, all 'bout the QT, now
[04:27] <MasterChef> run lspci
[04:27] <DotCom123> cfhowlett: That is my main problem. My CD/DVD player don't last longer than 15-20 minutes. Are you sure that the full installation of xubuntu/lubuntu completes within this time limit?
[04:27] <MasterChef> lsusb
[04:27] <MasterChef> in my case was the RALink making problems
[04:27] <cfhowlett> DotCom123, less to install so ... yeah?
[04:28] <MasterChef> chipset
[04:28] <MasterChef> change the source
[04:28] <MasterChef> make
[04:28] <MasterChef> compile
[04:28] <MasterChef> reboot
[04:28] <DotCom123> ok
[04:28] <MasterChef> should get some lights on
[04:28] <wilee-nilee> user_, Whoa I would not touch that phased upgrades with a 100 ft pole, I had not even known they were doing that.
[04:28] <xmetal> well there goes my wubi idea
[04:29] <xmetal> lol
[04:29] <MasterChef> lol, QoS is kinda hard to get working uh?
[04:29]  * cfhowlett ... wishes wubi would just die already.
[04:30] <wilee-nilee> I gotta guy thats will takes care of that a cleanup man
[04:30] <Ubnoobtu> wilee-nilee, What should I do to tighten up my security ?
[04:31] <wilee-nilee> Ubnoobtu, not sure not an area I have really worried about.
[04:31] <MasterChef> run a md5 on the matrix set array in the healthy disk space
[04:31] <wilee-nilee> !security
[04:31] <wilee-nilee> Ubnoobtu, ^^^^^^^^
[04:32] <Ubnoobtu> wilee-nilee, thanks man. Does this help with virus?
[04:33] <cfhowlett> !virus|Ubnoobtu,
[04:34] <Ubnoobtu> how does Ubuntu connect to the internet differently than windows?
[04:34] <aeon-ltd> Ubnoobtu: it doesn't
[04:34] <cfhowlett> Ubnoobtu, ??? what are you talking about?
[04:35] <MasterChef> socially acceptable rhetoric, man
[04:35] <Ubnoobtu> aeon-ltd, cfhowlett, I'm just thinking how does linux avoid getting viruses, beside being coded differently. Is there something more?
[04:36] <cfhowlett> Ubnoobtu, it's different, yes.
[04:37] <Ubnoobtu> (I;m trying to observe and learn, but I want to kick my own ass, and dig for knowlegde, where do I begin????
[04:38] <user_> wilee-nilee, Yeah I tried resetting unity, reinstalling unity, even gnome and fluxbox were having weird graphics glitches. I wonder if there is any list of which phased updates were cancelled, not installed for all users?
[04:38] <aeon-ltd> Ubnoobtu: being a smaller target, default separation of users and superusers on most distros, wide variation of software (i.e. too many distros are different),
 1.) The reason for GNU/Linux (and BSD) systems being FAR less susceptible (but not IMMUNE) to malware has been hotly disputed for some time
[04:39] <MasterChef> cool
[04:40]  * Ubnoobtu nods slowly.
[04:41] <Ubnoobtu> I'm learning about GNU now, atleast the history.
[04:41] <Ubnoobtu> I want to start learning how to navigate linux.
[04:41] <urandom_> aeon-ltd: " default separation of users and superusers on most distros": how much, if at all, that actually accounts is subject to dispute
[04:42] <xmetal> ah heck i am throwing in the towel for no for getting linux on that old laptop
[04:43] <MasterChef> what's wrong with the wubi, again?
[04:43] <MasterChef> hahah
[04:43] <cfhowlett> MasterChef, wubi is for testing.  It is NOT a long-term installation solution.
[04:43] <aeon-ltd> urandom_: yeah, i suppose it only seems that it's effective at all in comparison to win is because a large majority of xp users defaulted to one admin account only and vista users turned of uac
[04:43] <MasterChef> hmm
[04:44] <urandom_> ubottu: "Antivirus is something you don't need on !Linux"
[04:44] <aeon-ltd> *off
[04:44] <urandom_> overstatement
[04:45] <urandom_> until now, there have been almost-to-none viruses in the wild but that could change
[04:45] <wilee-nilee> user_, here is the developers blog. http://www.murraytwins.com/blog/?p=127 Are you certain that this type of upgrade is at fault here, these are stable releases that would run normally to everyone. here is more info. http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/08/phased-updates-to-start-rolling-out-for-ubuntu-13-04?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+d0od+%28OMG!+Ubuntu!%29
[04:45] <MasterChef> wubi I beg to differ
[04:45] <urandom_> aeon-ltd: yes, that's just what I was thinking
[04:46] <Ubnoobtu> I want to learn how to be anonymous on the internet. my concerns with the NSA and others has piqued my interest in learning the dynamics of this world and community.
[04:46] <urandom_> Ubnoobtu: https://torproject.org https://tails.boum.org
[04:46] <Ubnoobtu> I heard the NSa took it down
[04:47] <MasterChef> what does urandom, do anyway?
[04:47] <urandom_> "urandom" is pseudo-random data stream
[04:47] <MasterChef> aren't they all :/
[04:48] <MasterChef> thx
[04:48] <urandom_> I use it to overwrite a drive or volume that I intend to encrypt
[04:48] <urandom_> /dev/urandom
[04:49] <urandom_> /dev/zero is MUCH faster and should be just as effective for wiping data but when you intend to encrypt,
[04:49] <Ubnoobtu> uh, this is something I'm assumed, but do I download the x64 bit, or the regular gnu/linux? I'm really a scrub here.
[04:49] <urandom_> it is recommened to use /dev/urandom
[04:49] <urandom_> Ubnoobtu: depends on your HW
[04:50]  * Ubnoobtu listens
[04:50] <urandom_> in order to use x64, your CPU has to support 64-bit
[04:50] <urandom_> I assume your computer came with Windows?
[04:51] <MasterChef> windows can see Linux machines?
[04:52] <lotuspsychje> MasterChef: samba?
[04:52] <MasterChef> java
[04:52] <urandom_> I meant simply that if a given computer came with, for example, Windows 7, 64-bit, then you would know that you can run the x64 version of Ubuntu on it
[04:53] <Ubnoobtu> vista?
[04:53] <Ubnoobtu> is that x32
[04:53] <aeon-ltd> x86
[04:53] <Ubnoobtu> this is why im confused
[04:53] <aeon-ltd> +x64
[04:53] <urandom_> Didn't Vista come in both 32 as well as 64-bit?
 i need some help on identifiyng a game with bandits
[04:54] <Ubnoobtu> why is it so complicated
[04:54] <aeon-ltd> Ubnoobtu: what os are you running now?
[04:54] <Ubnoobtu> 12.4 LTS
[04:54] <aeon-ltd> Ubnoobtu: or better yet what cpu do you have and how much ram have you got?
[04:54] <Ubnoobtu> how can I find out?
[04:55] <urandom_> a few ways...
[04:55] <aeon-ltd> Ubnoobtu: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[04:55] <MasterChef> they had masks and clubs man, remember that shit, lol
[04:56] <IdleOne> !language
[04:56] <user_> wilee-nillee, is this the list I'm looking for? http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/phased-updates.html
[04:56] <urandom_> lotuspsychje: Samba is a program for sharing files between Windows and Linux systems
[04:56] <lotuspsychje> urandom_: i know that
[04:56] <MasterChef> !language
[04:56] <elementary-site2> Ok. Installed. Now to reboot the computer and see if I've installed to USB drive correctly, or if I've overwritten my HDD to which no backups exist :-)
[04:57] <urandom_> @ ubottu: yes, we want to encourage youth to be geeky
[04:57] <Ubnoobtu> Can I post this wall of text here?
[04:57] <urandom_> lotuspsychje: Sorry, I thought you were asking what Samba is
[04:57] <MasterChef> first of, get the drive out dude
[04:58] <kabamaro> Click There -> #pwpwq
[04:58] <kabamaro> Type: /join #pwpwq
[04:59] <aeon-ltd> Ubnoobtu: use pastebin
[04:59] <MasterChef> !ubuntu
[04:59] <urandom_> " Pastes to http://paste.ubuntu.com/"
[05:00] <MasterChef> !lubuntu
[05:00] <IdleOne> !msgthebot > MasterChef
[05:00] <MasterChef> !kubuntu
[05:00] <MasterChef> what's ap
[05:01] <urandom_> MasterChef: Did someone ask about the difference b/w the *buntus?
[05:01] <IdleOne> MasterChef: cut it out please
[05:01] <wilee-nilee> user_, I just gave you the info for more info such as there is a two way communications on the errors and such, I'm not sure you are not assuming that this sis the problem, rather than a problem that would be there otherwise.
[05:01] <Ubnoobtu> http://pastebin.com/fytNfyK9
[05:02] <Jaberwocky> Hi, got a problem
[05:02] <wilee-nilee> user_, The only difference is this phase, these are stable updates that would be released to everyone normally, from what I read.
[05:02] <wilee-nilee> Jaberwocky, spill it.
[05:03] <Jaberwocky> can't login in 13.04, makes a loop
[05:03] <aeon-ltd> Ubnoobtu: your cpu, http://ark.intel.com/products/37251/Intel-Pentium-Processor-T4200-1M-Cache-2_00-GHz-800-MHz-FSB yes it is under intel64
[05:03] <Jaberwocky> in the main user
[05:03] <wilee-nilee> Jaberwocky, Unity? any info leading to this?
[05:03] <MasterChef> when i see the sea once more... will the sea have seen or not seen me
[05:04] <kelvinella> bekks, hello are you there?
[05:04] <wilee-nilee> Jaberwocky, Have you tried a tty login then startx
[05:04] <kelvinella> bekks, my computer is slow again even i have close firefox
[05:04] <Jaberwocky> yes, first i had a lot ofo problems with unity, then i'd to reinstall and now can't log in
[05:04] <Ubnoobtu> Whooo
[05:04] <urandom_> Ubnoobtu's CPU looks like 320bit, doesn't it?
[05:04] <Ubnoobtu> Thanks aeon-ltd
[05:04] <urandom_> 32-bit, that is
[05:04] <Jaberwocky> startx?
[05:04] <Jaberwocky> from tty?
[05:05] <wilee-nilee> Jaberwocky, reinstalled what, use nicks they can be tab competed
[05:05] <urandom_> oh, sorry, missed aeon'
[05:05] <wilee-nilee> Jaberwocky, tty is a cli gotten to with ctrl-alt f1 then login and run startx
[05:05] <aeon-ltd> urandom_: the link i posted, it's marked yes next to intel64
[05:06] <Ubnoobtu> Are you sure now, educate me furter
[05:06] <Ubnoobtu> oh i missed it too
[05:07] <Ubnoobtu> i want learn more to protect knowledge and free learning
[05:08] <aeon-ltd> Ubnoobtu: learn about what?
[05:08] <MasterChef> i kind of have a grudge with the whole ARM thing goig on
[05:08] <urandom_> aeon-ltd: sorry, I had missed your latest post, and from Ubnoobtu's paste, couldn
[05:08] <urandom_> couldn't figure it out (sorry, hit enter by mistake there)
[05:09] <Ubnoobtu> I want to use the internet to educate myself, to download ebooks, docs, and
[05:09] <urandom_> BTW, isn't there a command or even a right-click on some icon, that gives much shorter output and tells whether a CPU is 32 or 64 bit?
[05:10] <aeon-ltd> urandom_: heh probably
[05:10] <ui_> command is uname -p
[05:11] <trindaz> I can run scripts by using ". myscript.sh"
[05:11] <trindaz> but if i type "sudo . myscript.sh"
[05:11] <trindaz> I get "command not found ."
[05:11] <trindaz> why is that?
[05:11] <ui_> trindaz: sudo ./myscript.sh
[05:12] <ui_> . is a builtin, that is it's not a copmmand, it's parsed specially by the shell
[05:12] <MasterChef> use: sh name.sh
[05:12] <ui_> and therefore cannot be used with sudo
[05:12] <trindaz> ui_ sudo ./myscript.sh fails with same error message
[05:13] <ui_> Also, . myscript.sh will work if myscript.sh was written for the same shell you're using now
[05:13] <trindaz> why would it disappear just because i'm using sudo
[05:13] <trindaz> i must not understand what sudo does
[05:13] <ui_> trindaz: do not put a space after the .
[05:13] <trindaz> i thought it was identical to logging in as root and running something
[05:13] <trindaz> i didn't put a space after it
[05:13] <trindaz> copy pasted straight from my terminal: sudo ./sync_production_projects.sh
[05:14] <MasterChef> Intel Corporation (INTC) $22.44
[05:14] <ui_> chmod +x ./myscript.sh
[05:14] <trindaz> so if . is not in .bashrc, where is it defined? how is it different to using sh?
[05:15] <MasterChef> ignore
[05:15] <trindaz> ha ui_ chmod did the trick
[05:15] <bhch> what is meaning of Cortex in ARM Processes ?
[05:15] <trindaz> thanks
[05:16] <MasterChef> yo GDP of the US is 12 trill
[05:16] <magdur> guys do you know any linux channel speaking turkish
[05:16] <ui_> trindaz: you're running a shell at this very moment. sh myscript will launch /bin/sh passding the string "myscript" as an argument, and sh will run the script. The dot will be parsed directly by your shell (it's not looked into the $PATH) and will load all the function definitions in your current shell
[05:17] <ui_> Now, if myscript was written for the language of your current shell, OR you want to directly use in the shell the function defined in the script, the dot should be fine.
[05:17] <ui_> Otherwise, if your script was written in the language of another shell, avoid the dot and just do ./myscript or sudo ./myscript
[05:17] <ui_> You can check by looking at the first line (head myscript)
[05:17] <urandom_> ui_: Re: "uname -p": Interesting, in both Tails as well as Kanotix (both Debian-based) I get "unknown". Unfortunately, I cannot try in a *buntu atm
[05:17] <trindaz> well i wrote it myself
[05:17] <ui_> which is called "hashbang"
[05:18] <aeon-ltd> !turkish | magdur
[05:18] <trindaz> thanks ui_
[05:18] <ui_> urandom_: try uname -a
[05:18] <chris310> Hello
[05:18] <urandom_> but uname -r does report the kernel version
[05:19] <vtux> Hello, can someone provide insight into apache - can't find a resolution on google. After last night update, it stopped loading all conf.d files
[05:19] <thetinyjesus> hey guys, i am trying to edit the repo's and change one i added to a different distribution and it doesn't seem to want to do it
[05:19] <thetinyjesus> how do i do it through a text editor instead of the gui software sources
[05:21] <thetinyjesus> anyone
[05:21] <ui_> thetinyjesus: edit /etc/apt/sources.list. But what are you trying to do? what's "the real problem"?
[05:21] <thetinyjesus> ui_, i am trying to add ps3 media server repo to saucy but it needs to be backported to raring
[05:22] <Yaberwocky> Hello, Just tried startx from tty, but get stucked  loading extension GLX
[05:22] <thetinyjesus> ui_, the repo i added through software sources isn't listed in that sources file
[05:22] <X-User> !adblock
[05:23] <X-User> why i even typed that? :O
[05:23] <user_> wilee-nilee, I have both of the packages mentioned on that page http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/phased-updates.html Is that bad?
[05:23] <Yaberwocky> My situation is that after a clean reinstallation of 13.04, couldn't login with main user
[05:24] <Yaberwocky> just from guest
[05:24] <bansi> how to boot ubuntu 12.04 in text mode?
[05:24] <urandom_> thetinyjesus: I would suggest that nick could be offensive to many people
[05:25] <thetinyjesus> urandom_, i could careless about peoples religion i use this nick from everything from my icloud email to twitter
[05:25] <urandom_> thetinyjesus: According to Ubuntu Code of Conduct...shouldn't user names that are likely to offend be avoided?
[05:25] <trindaz> how do I debug my cron script? I'm using` /home/app/myscript.sh  2>&1 > /mnt/logs/log.log` but the log file doesn't get created, even though I can see in syslog that the job was definitely run
[05:26] <Yaberwocky> Using TTY can log the user
[05:26] <thetinyjesus> urandom_, then stop being so sensitive
[05:26] <Yaberwocky> but not in the graphic mode
[05:26] <Yaberwocky> and need to restore my backups
[05:26] <Yaberwocky> guest have no permission for nothing
[05:27] <ui_> trindaz: do ''/home/app/myscript.sh  > /mnt/logs/log.log 2>&1 '' because redirection is performed in textual order
[05:28] <trindaz> with the double quotes?
[05:28] <Nothing_Much> How do you make an ".sh" file execute without using the terminal? IE, double click?
[05:28] <ui_> no do not mind the double quotes
[05:28] <ui_> I mean the redirection
[05:29] <ui_> 2>&1 > log.log will first redirect stderr to stdout, which is the terminal, then redirect stdout to the logfile
[05:29] <qin> Nothing_Much: ...right click, properities. or simply: chmod +x file.sh
[05:29] <Nothing_Much> No I mean
[05:29] <Nothing_Much> It opens with gedit
[05:29] <ui_> if you want to redirect both, you first red. stdout to the file, then red. stderr to stdout which is the file
[05:29] <Nothing_Much> And I want to completely avoid the terminal at all costs
[05:29] <ui_> trindaz: I assumed that you want to redirect both to file, but if I was wrong, please ignore me
[05:30] <urandom_> aeon-limited and Ubnoobtu: ui_ told me about command "lscpu", much shorter, clearer output for seeing whether 32- or 64-bit
[05:30] <trindaz> "both"? I don't really get what the "1" and "2" mean, but it
[05:30] <Nothing_Much> I'm trying to get me and my mother completely comfortable with Linux, I don't mind the occasional terminal commands, but come on.. there has to be a way to completely disregard the "open with gedit" crap
[05:30] <trindaz> s something related to stdout, stderr right?
[05:30] <qin> feel evil in such moments, your "mime" is wrong, right click in select open with, Nothing_Much
[05:31] <trindaz> i just want to see why my script is not working
[05:31] <ui_> 1 is standard output, 2 is standard error output
[05:31] <Nothing_Much> It only wants to open with libreoffice and gedit
[05:31] <Nothing_Much> How do I fix the mime then?
[05:31] <qin> Nothing_Much: make it executable?
[05:32] <ui_> Nothing_Much: does the script begin with this line? #! /bin/bash
[05:32] <Nothing_Much> No no, it's already executable
[05:32] <ui_> Nothing_Much: also called hashbang or sheban
[05:32] <Nothing_Much> Yes
[05:32] <ui_> shebang*
[05:32] <Nothing_Much> It has that in the script
[05:32] <Nothing_Much> But I can't install it
[05:32] <magdur> guys what is the differrent about linux discdistributions? why there is not  just a  distribution ?
[05:32] <Nothing_Much> I want to COMPLETELY AVOID the use of a terminal
[05:32] <Nothing_Much> At all costs
[05:32] <ui_> Nothing_Much: is it the very first line?
[05:32] <Nothing_Much> Isn't there a gui application that fixes these "mimes" you were talking about?
[05:32] <Nothing_Much> #!/bin/sh
[05:33] <urandom_> magdur: You might as well ask , "What is different about cars? Why is there not just one model of car?"
[05:33] <trindaz> won't seem to work - i've tried the same command with various delimiters (`, '', none) and still no file containing the output of my script when run with cron
[05:34] <chris310> How can I change my desktop Environment?
[05:34] <ui_> trindaz: does the script print the error messages if you run it manually in terminal?
[05:34] <DarkAlice> what can I do?
[05:34] <DarkAlice> help please
 but dor instance necesaary other packets additable ubuntu  isnt it ?
[05:35] <xmetal> was that english?
[05:35] <xmetal> :|
[05:35] <chris310> DarkAlice, Do with what?
[05:35] <trindaz> if i run as user 'ubuntu' it works great. If I run as 'sudo' I get errors related to virtualenvwrapper not working, which I expected, however I wanted to confirm that I get those same errors when run with cron (to check that it's a user issue that's causing it to not work when run with cron, as opposed to some other error that I'm not aware of yet)
[05:35] <urandom_> magdur: Sorry, I don't understand what you asked
[05:35] <acidrain> what is the best ftp program for ubuntu?
[05:35] <Nothing_Much> So how do I fix the mime type or something?
[05:35] <acidrain> i need one that is easily configurable and one that preferably uses virtual users so i dont have to set the user up on my box
[05:36] <xmetal> dont know if ifs the "best" though i'd go with what i use on Windows too ... Fizizilla
[05:36] <xmetal> oops
[05:36] <qin> Nothing_Much: my appologies, that's wired but apprently you cannot click scripts.
[05:36] <xmetal> i typo'ed that
[05:36] <DarkAlice> chris, Ive just reinstalled 13.04, but it doesn't allow me login with main user,
[05:36] <magdur>  <urandom_> i say that, when you need different  package  you can add isnt it ?
[05:36] <xmetal> FileZilla
[05:36] <Nothing_Much> qin, What? I was able to successfully do so some time ago..
[05:36] <AcidRain2012> xmetal, so you are suggesting the filezilla ftp server for linux and it supports virtual users?
[05:36] <trindaz> tempted to try installing cellery just to get this scheduled job working, feels like cheating though
[05:36] <Nothing_Much> I was using the teamspeak .sh thing
[05:36] <Nothing_Much> It worked flawlessly
[05:37] <urandom_> magdur: Yes, there are many different packages that one has the option of adding to Ubuntu
[05:37] <Nothing_Much> If you're saying that it's impossible, then that's ludicrous because this just HAS to cater to users who don't want to use the terminal at all..
[05:37] <DarkAlice> It just loops to first screeen
[05:37] <tabbytabtab> hey
[05:37] <AcidRain2012> The current FZ Server code cannot be ported to *NIX. Too much Windows dependencies in there. To make it multi-platform, a complete rewrite is required (as already happened with the client). Unfortunately, the development focus is almost entirely on the client right now.
[05:37] <urandom_> but different distros still offer, in many cases at least, considerably different experiences
[05:37] <AcidRain2012> so filezilla is out of the picture
[05:37] <AcidRain2012> any other ideas?
[05:38] <Flynn__> I'm really trying to get my parents hooked on Ubuntu.  I'm using 12.04 64 bit on a hp all in one.  But, they love faremville two. and the animation is slow in firefox chromium and chrome.  Any suggestions?  (it works fine on the same computer in Win,. 7
[05:38] <tabbytabtab> how do you install a bcw4311 wlan driver?
 for example if you need a package from linux mint or backtrack you can add to ubuntu isnt it ?
[05:38] <trindaz> not even this works
[05:38] <trindaz> */1 * * * * ''echo 'hello' > /mnt/logs/log.log  2>&1''
[05:38] <ChogyDan> Flynn__: what tech does it use?
[05:39] <Flynn__> flash
[05:39] <trindaz> and yet /mnt/logs definitely exists
[05:39] <aeon-ltd> Flynn__: install latest graphics drivers, update flash or whatever plugin farmville runs on, then if the problem persists ask here again
[05:39] <aeon-ltd> !broadcom | tabbytabtab
[05:39] <chris310> Ok, I want to get rid of all the effects on Ubuntu, just get a simple desktop and taskbar, I tried going to log in screen, but i do not have any options, any suggestions?
[05:39] <trindaz> and syslog has Aug 26 01:38:01 ip-10-170-70-131 CRON[20694]: (ubuntu) CMD (''echo 'hello' > /mnt/logs/log.log  2>&1'')
[05:39] <Flynn__> I thought flash was preinstalled in chrome.
[05:39] <chris310> Also, I am running Ubuntu 13.04
[05:39] <aeon-ltd> Flynn__: then do the first part
[05:40] <Flynn__> I tried both additional drivers for the graphics card to no avail.
[05:40] <urandom_> magdur: I would think /most/ pkges in Mint and BackTrack (now KaliLinux, BTW) would be available for Ubuntu but I'm not sure that /all/ are
[05:40] <aeon-ltd> chris310: use a different DE, unity depends on the effects. i don't think unity 2d exists anymore
[05:40] <ChogyDan> Flynn__: you can check the plugins at chrome://plugins/ in chrome
[05:40] <urandom_> magdur: someone more knowledgable could tel you for sure
[05:41] <ChogyDan> chris310: I just switched to xubuntu in order to get rid of desktop effects
[05:41] <qin> Nothing_Much: http://askubuntu.com/questions/138908/how-to-execute-a-script-just-by-double-clicking-like-exe-files-in-windows
[05:41] <tabbytabtab> what driver do i download
[05:41] <AcidRain2012> you know its hard to find good documentation on setting up virtual users with their own home folders and applying permissions without gui
[05:42] <chris310> Is there an easy way of switching to that? or do i have to start a fresh install?
[05:42] <Flynn__> ChogyDan, youtube and other games work fine.  Wouldn't the pluggin have to be right for that?
[05:43] <ui_> chris310: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[05:43] <chris310> ui_, Thank you :)
[05:45] <DarkAlice> How can i fix the login loop?
[05:45] <DarkAlice> or at least enter the gui with main user?
[05:45] <Flynn__> shouldn't there be a folder for chrome under home?
[05:46] <ui_> DarkAlice: to restore your backups, you could boot into a live cd
[05:47] <Nothing_Much> I figured it out! Yay!
[05:47] <DarkAlice> and? save'em in which folder?
[05:47] <tabbytabtab> i am computer stupid and dont know how to install this driver. can someone help? please?
[05:48] <DarkAlice> I really want to fix this login loop
[05:48] <DarkAlice> i tried login from TTY and run startx
[05:48] <ChogyDan> Flynn__: look under .config and .cache for the chrome folders, afaik
[05:49] <DarkAlice> but it stucked loading extension GLX
[05:49] <tabbytabtab> can i have help?
[05:49] <DarkAlice> another Idea?
[05:49] <ChogyDan> DarkAlice: can you ask your full question, all on one line?
[05:49] <Jacta___> Does anyone have any experience with vmware player and ubuntu server and shared folders?
[05:50] <ChogyDan> tabbytabtab: which driver?
[05:50] <tabbytabtab> how do you install a bcw4311 wlan driver? i dont understand the instructions
[05:51] <DarkAlice> Yes of course ChogyDan:. I can't login with main user, it loops to login window. User and password are correct, but it loops. Any idea how fix this using TTY or loged in guest?
[05:52] <ChogyDan> DarkAlice: do you see any errors in /var/log/Xorg.0.log?
[05:52] <tabbytabtab> ChogyDan: the bcw4311 one
[05:53] <ChogyDan> tabbytabtab: which directions are you following?  Which step is confusing?
[05:53] <ChogyDan> tabbytabtab: and what version of ubuntu?
[05:53] <DarkAlice> mmm how can I acces that report?
[05:53] <Flynn__> I still don't get how to check version in chrome.
[05:53] <tabbytabtab> ChogyDan: im using the sta instructions and i dont even get step 1
[05:54] <ChogyDan> DarkAlice: gedit /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[05:54] <tabbytabtab> ChogyDan: 13.04
[05:54] <DarkAlice> chogydan ok
[05:55] <ChogyDan> tabbytabtab: do you have internet access? if so, System > Administration > Hardware/Additional Drivers
[05:55] <ChogyDan> tabbytabtab: actually, that might be wrong
[05:56] <v1c3> Hi, where are the files? I need to change one and have no clue where to search
[05:56] <v1c3> sorry,  where are the UPSTART files stored?
[05:57] <DarkAlice> sorry, ChogyDan it gives me a lot of lines,  not sure what I'm looking for
[05:57] <tabbytabtab> ChogyDan: I dont have internet because i would have to unplug my desktops internet cord
[05:58] <ChogyDan> v1c3: /etc/init/
[05:58] <Flynn__> So, how do I upgrade flash in Ubuntu 12.04
[05:58] <v1c3> ChogyDan: Thanks! Only looked at /etc/init.d/ ^^
[05:59] <ChogyDan> v1c3: I think that's where the old style files live, take care  :)
[05:59] <v1c3> ChogyDan: where is defined which user starts a service?
[05:59] <ChogyDan> Flynn__: if you check about:plugins, and you have 11.8, I think you are good
[06:00] <Flynn__> I have 11.8
[06:00] <ChogyDan> v1c3: in the file, right?
[06:00] <sepero> Flynn__: the package is flashplugin-installer
[06:00] <DarkAlice> in guest profile all works but the main user loops at the beginning
[06:00] <Flynn__> flashpluggin-installer is installed.
[06:00] <ChogyDan> DarkAlice: if you pastebin it, I could take a look.  But it is weird that your guest works ok
[06:01] <tabbytabtab> ChogyDan: any other help you can give to me?
[06:01] <v1c3> ChogyDan: aaaaah now I see it
[06:01] <ChogyDan> v1c3: I only have a little experience, I just know it is event driven.  Don't know about the user part
[06:02] <Flynn__> sepero, flashplugin-installer is installed.
[06:02] <sepero> Flynn__: right. i thought you wanted to upgrade it
[06:02] <ChogyDan> Flynn__: you actually don't want that package, it has 11.2 I think
[06:03] <v1c3> ChogyDan: Its in there and I can change it. Only have experience with OpenRC and systemd.
[06:03] <Flynn__> sepero, I think my version is latest
[06:04] <ChogyDan> tabbytabtab: I guess you could follow the STA no internet access
[06:05] <v1c3> ChogyDan: Have to rename default user of raspberryy pi. and now a few things are fucked up :) Thank you very much!
[06:05] <sepero> Flynn__: upgrading that package will give you the latest from the repositories. If upgrading in doesn't give you the latest flashplayer from adobe, then you should follow You may ChogyDan's advice
[06:05] <tabbytabtab> ChogyDan i have the driver orig.tar.gz on my laptop but i dont understand how to install
[06:06] <ChogyDan> tabbytabtab: why can't you just plug in your ethernet cable, just so you can use the gui?  I mean, it would be easier
[06:06] <Flynn__> I'm not really sure what ChogyDan's advice was.
[06:07] <tabbytabtab> ChogyDan: ok. brb. im going to lose conection
[06:08] <ChogyDan> Flynn__: google-chrome has the latest flash built in.  As for advice, maybe use a different DE than unity.  Other than that, i think flash is just slower on linux
[06:08] <Flynn__> Isn't there an open source flash player?  Maybe that would be better.  Can it be installed to chrome.?
[06:08] <Flynn__> ChogyDan, DE?
[06:08] <sepero> Flynn__: Well other than the repositories, you could get it directly from Adobe, or a ppa. I wouldn't recommend downloading directly from adobe though, cause that could lead to more complicated things
[06:09] <ChogyDan> sepero: the only way to get the latest flash is through chrome.  It's a thing
[06:09] <Flynn__> Adobe does not support linux.
[06:09] <sepero> Flynn__: the open source flash player is called gnash
[06:10] <Flynn__> sepero, would that be better?
[06:10] <urandom_> sepero: Does gnash offer comparable performance?
[06:10] <ui_> Flynn__: there are gnash and shumway, but I do not think they have better performance
[06:10] <Flynn__> Ok.
[06:10] <sepero> Flynn__: urandom_: I don't currently use gnash, so I'm not sure
[06:11] <Flynn__> ChogyDan, what is DE?
[06:11] <urandom_> I've always hated Flash and, for the most part, avoid it like the plague
[06:12] <Flynn__> Thwe only thing the average person does on the internet anymore involves flash.
[06:12] <sepero> urandom_: probably a good call  ;)
[06:12] <ChogyDan> Flynn__: desktop environment.  I meant, use something other than unity/ubuntu.  From what ive heard, unity impacts performance a bit
[06:12] <histo> !best | Flynn__
[06:13] <sepero> !help
[06:13] <sepero> How do I get a list of commands from ubottu?
[06:14] <julianwa> Hey, anyone knows where I can get nx3fwct.bin for NetXen NX3 serious adapter under 12.04?
[06:14] <urandom_> Flynn_: I'm not so average... ;)
[06:14] <ui_> !factoids
[06:14] <ui_> sepero: ^^^
[06:14] <ui_> factoids.cgi
[06:14] <sepero> ui_: thx
[06:14] <Flynn__> ChogyDan, such as...  I can't think of it.  The distro with the lizard emblem?
[06:15] <DarkAlice> ChogyDan here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6027608/plain/
[06:15] <ChogyDan> Flynn__: I've moved to xubuntu, and then turned off effects
[06:15] <Flynn__> how do I do that?
[06:15] <trindaz> GOT it! thanks uid_ for your help before - i was using crontab -e to control user cron jobs, which didn't have permission to save to that log location I was trying. All sorted now.
[06:15] <tabbytabtab> ChogyDan: i cant find system
[06:15] <sepero> julianwa: i never heard of nx3fwct.bin
[06:16] <sepero> Flynn__: opensuse
[06:16] <tabbytabtab> ChogyDan: im on my ubuntu laptop now
[06:16] <Flynn__> that was it!
[06:16] <julianwa> sepero: when I trying to install 12.04 server on HP DL580 G7, it asks me provide that driver with floppy.
[06:16] <ChogyDan> Flynn__: install xubuntu-desktop, then switch to xubuntu on your login page
[06:16] <sepero> Flynn__: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop-environment
[06:17] <gordonjcp> o_O
[06:17] <ui_> ubutnu asks for a floppy?
[06:17] <histo> !notunity > Flynn__
[06:17] <gordonjcp> installing XFCE to help flash performance? madness...
[06:17] <gordonjcp> ui_: shouldn't do
[06:17] <ui_> that's what I was thinking
[06:18] <julianwa> sepero: it's debian non-free firmware
[06:18] <sepero> hehe
[06:18] <ChogyDan> tabbytabtab: try opening the software center
[06:18] <AcidRain2012> ok, so according to vsftp documentation, its not logical at all to have an ftp server where all home folders arent located in a single folder? :/
[06:19] <sepero> julianwa: i wish i could help, but your questions is maybe a little too specific for most ppl in here
[06:19] <tabbytabtab> ChogyDan: ok i did
[06:19] <AcidRain2012> i have like 15 hdds, how can i setup virtual users home folders to different paths other than ex: /var/www/$USER
[06:19] <ChogyDan> tabbytabtab: edit > software sources > additional drivers.   hopefully it shows up
[06:20] <sepero> AcidRain2012: I might be able to help you
[06:20] <histo> AcidRain2012: mount whatever device to their directory etc...
[06:20] <julianwa> sepero: yep... from lp bug 880541, it should be there :(
[06:20] <tabbytabtab> ChogyDan: No proprietary drivers in use.?
[06:21] <AcidRain2012> histo, will vsftp follow sym links?
[06:21] <ChogyDan> tabbytabtab: does it show anything else?
[06:21] <sepero> AcidRain2012: I use vsftp, but I'm not familiar with "virtual users". Where are you reading this
[06:21] <tabbytabtab> ChogyDan: Nothing shows up exept that at the bottom
[06:21] <Flynn__> sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop-environment
[06:21] <Flynn__> [sudo] password for frankie:
[06:21] <Flynn__> Reading package lists... Done
[06:21] <Flynn__> Building dependency tree
[06:21] <Flynn__> Reading state information... Done
[06:21] <FloodBot1> Flynn__: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:21] <Flynn__> E: Unable to locate package xubuntu-desktop-environment
[06:21] <AcidRain2012> http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=4&ved=0CEkQFjAD&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.sigerr.org%2Flinux%2Fsetup-vsftpd-custom-multiple-directories-users-accounts-ubuntu-step-by-step&ei=lPEaUtDTO8XI2wW6yIHQCg&usg=AFQjCNFaIzzF-gHqn7jvCzZYZjDuzTM8Lg&sig2=TuG0ME6F8nx54eB5fC39QA
[06:22] <sepero> Flynn__: apt-cache search xubuntu desktop
[06:22] <histo> Flynn__: apt-get update first then install xubuntu-desktop
[06:23] <DotCom123> histo: Is there Boot to RAM option in ubuntu 12.04 LTS?
[06:23] <owen__> Hello all -- Having problems with an Ubuntu 12.04LTS migration from OpenVZ to a local device. The kernel which was imported was 'linux-kernel-3.2.2.0-........' Basically when I try to run 'iptables -L' I get ... 'FATAL v1.4.12: can't initialize iptabes 'filter' : Table does not exist (do you need to insmod)?'  ........ So I installed kernel 3.4..... instead and removed the original kernel that was copied from the OpenVZ container , now ipta
[06:23] <AcidRain2012> quite honestly, proftpd is the best one ive used. but it doesnt want to work at all in ubuntu 12. it allowed me to setup home directories all over my filesystem.
[06:23] <DotCom123> Or its not supported anymore?
[06:24] <histo> !ftpd | AcidRain2012
[06:24] <ChogyDan> AcidRain2012: you can just hack it with sym links.  ln -s actual/folder desired/location
[06:24] <AcidRain2012> pureadmin has failed me
[06:25] <sepero> AcidRain2012: do you have apache running?
[06:26] <AcidRain2012> ChogyDan, ok, but what about file permissions? this is what im worried about. lets say i want one user to have access to /var/www/site, and be able to upload and do anything there. how do i allow him to do that, while still allowing other users to read from that folder as a website?
[06:26] <AcidRain2012> sepero, apache is indeed running
[06:26] <histo> DotCom123: not out of the box.
[06:26] <tabbytabtab> ChogyDan: any other suggestions?
[06:27] <DotCom123> histo: Can you give some general directions how to use it?
[06:27] <ChogyDan> tabbytabtab: not atm, sorry
[06:27] <AcidRain2012> sepero, ill try pureftp again. last chance though. if i get a single login error im giving up on it. lol
[06:27] <tabbytabtab> ChogyDan: :/ thanks for trying
[06:28] <sepero> AcidRain2012: I would try symlinks
[06:28] <histo> DotCom123: http://askubuntu.com/questions/194501/instruct-ubuntu-to-boot-toram-from-flash-drive-using-unetbootin
[06:29] <AcidRain2012> sepero, but you see. i get login error again. the folder: /home/ftpusers is there, nothing is in it. but its there. why is it not allowing me to login?
[06:30] <AcidRain2012> filezilla says: Error:	Critical error. Error:	Could not connect to server
[06:30] <sepero> AcidRain2012: good question
[06:30] <AcidRain2012> i know this is false, because it checked my username and password
[06:30] <sepero> AcidRain2012: I only use vsftp with real users.
[06:30] <histo> AcidRain2012: permissions on the ftpusers directory?
[06:30] <AcidRain2012> owner: 120 - user #120
[06:31] <AcidRain2012> ftpgroup
[06:31] <AcidRain2012> i have user set to ftpuser 120, and group set to ftpgroup
[06:31] <sepero> AcidRain2012: "Could not connect to server" sounds like a pre-login error
[06:32] <AcidRain2012> sepero, which means?.... im using the pureadmin gui right now.
[06:32] <sepero> AcidRain2012: make sure the ip+port is correct, and vsftp is listening
[06:32] <AcidRain2012> sepero, im also using pureftpd
[06:33] <sepero> AcidRain2012: ok
[06:33] <owen__> Does anyone know how to enable iptables module for the kernel at boot time?
[06:34] <Guest24679> i am trying to install additional proprietory drivers on ubuntu 12.04 pc. but i get an error which says check dpkg log http://pastebin.com/uAsMgB5B
[06:34] <Guest24679> what should i do?
[06:34] <sepero> AcidRain2012: you can run them at the same time, just use diferent ports
[06:35] <Guest24679> and now my wifi has stopped working..
[06:35] <Guest24679> i am connected through a lan cable
[06:35] <AcidRain2012> sepero, pureftpd said to create a file called Bind and set the ip,port. that didnt help
[06:36] <Guest24679> this never happened earlier
[06:36] <AcidRain2012> Response:	530 Login authentication failed
[06:37] <sepero> AcidRain2012: unfortunately i'm not familiar with proftpd
[06:37] <Flynn__> how do you change login from automatic?
[06:37] <AcidRain2012> sepero, well its pureftpd :P
[06:37] <AcidRain2012> sepero, but im about to try out vsftpd again
[06:38] <sepero> AcidRain2012: ok
[06:38] <AcidRain2012> sepero, ill let you know when ive ran into any problems
[06:38] <sepero> AcidRain2012: ok
[06:38] <Guest24679> my wifi is not working..
[06:39] <tabbytabtab> ChogyDan: i found broadcom's official linux driver but how do i install a tar.gz?
[06:39] <yeni> here http://sourceforge.net/projects/linux-secure/files/   the linux-secure-13.04-64bit.iso is which one of those in Usb Installer ? ( kubuntu | lubunu | xubuntu )?
[06:39] <gordonjcp> tabbytabtab: there will be instructions for it somewhere on the site
[06:39] <Guest24679> ???
[06:40] <tabbytabtab> no there isn't
[06:40] <Guest24679> its a broadcom chip it was workiing when i installed the system
[06:40] <Guest24679> then i saw a message for activating proprietory drivers
[06:40] <Guest24679> i clicked there
[06:40] <Guest24679> and then i got this error
[06:41] <helge_> Anyone have any idea why gnome-keyring-daemon out of nowhere starts whining about "invalid or unrecognized private SSH key: helge@helge", making any ssh with key files attempts not working anymore? afaics, theres nothing wrong with my ~/.ssh/
[06:41] <tabbytabtab> gordonjcp: nope
[06:41] <flynn__> Once you install xubuntu you just have to log out and back in?  Or restart?
[06:42] <ooko0> hey, i am running three monitors did ubuntu fix the issue with dragging windows from one monitor to the other?
[06:44] <Guest24679> please check whats the error in here http://pastebin.com/uAsMgB5B
[06:44] <ooko0> sounds like a terrible idea
[06:45] <owen__> Hi does anyone know anything about how to enable iptables module at boot time?
[06:46] <Guest24679> http://pastebin.com/uAsMgB5B
[06:47] <Guest24679> Wifi not workiing: http://pastebin.com/uAsMgB5B
[06:47] <Guest24679> Wifi not workiing: http://pastebin.com/uAsMgB5B
[06:47] <ooko0> so what is the identified with services?
[06:51] <Guest24679>  Wifi not workiing: http://pastebin.com/uAsMgB5B
[06:53] <stobix> hi. what is the command for opening Update Manager? (I have a WM without menus and such, so no "go to blah->blah->blah" is gonna help.)
[06:54] <ezra-s> with unity you would have had to type 3 characters most to find it ;P
[06:55] <stobix> heh. well. I wouldn't have found it even if I found it. :þ
[06:55] <ezra-s> stobix, "update-manager"
[06:55] <ezra-s> yes you would
[06:55] <stobix> ezra-s: hm. Is it possible it isn't installed for me?
[06:56] <ezra-s> so much hate for unity, but it is faster than menu's or having to guess what binaries are called like
[06:56] <owen__> Does anyone know how to enable iptables module for the kernel at boot time?
[06:56] <stobix> huh, seems so...
[06:56]  * stobix installs update-manager
[06:56] <stobix> no wonder it couldn't be found...
[06:56] <helge_> Hi! I'm getting an error, "Agent admitted failure to sign using the key.", when logging into ssh servers using an identity file. The logs says "gnome-keyring-daemon: invalid or unrecognized private SSH key: helge@helge". Anyone got an idea what's wrong?
[06:56] <ezra-s> stobix, seeing how you don't know how to use unity dash, and you probably don't know what you installed, yes, it's possible :P
[06:56] <chiques> USB is always a tease for me
[06:57]  * ezra-s judging finger points to stobix, hehhee
[06:57] <chiques> always gotta resort to the good ol' CDR
[06:57] <stobix> ezra-s: when unity lets me do all the stuff that XMonad lets me do, I'll maybe consider taking a second look at it.
[06:57] <ezra-s> stobix, yes yes, but you're stuck trying to find the simple update-manager
[06:57] <chiques> USB installation boot that is...
[06:57]  * xmetal shrugs ... unity is really the only DE i dont care for
[06:58] <ezra-s> stobix, don't get mad at me though, I'm just picking on you, without malice
[06:58] <AcidRain2012> sepero, may i pm you?
[06:58] <stobix> ezra-s: guessed as much.
[06:58] <stobix> ezra-s: if you run emacs as well, we can really have an all-out war... ;)
[06:58] <gordonjcp> stobix: what does xmonad do that you can't do with Unity?
[06:59] <ezra-s> stobix, nah, you can shoot me, but never passed more than 5 seconds with emacs, kind of like you have done with unity :P
[06:59]  * ezra-s looks for all about "XMonad", Im intrigued.
[07:00] <ezra-s> ohh, another tiling wm
[07:00] <stobix> gordonjcp: on several screens, the desktops are taken from ONE pool (configurable), not one per screen. This is what got me to switch (from openbox). Also, the config file is a haskell module. I can basically just write my own functions to change the window manager in exactly the way I want. A while ago I wrote ~72 keyboard shortcuts in one using a list comprehension.
[07:00] <ezra-s> i have to try one sooner or later, it's just another style to get used to
[07:00]  * stobix uses vim
[07:00] <sepero> AcidRain2012: sure
[07:01] <ezra-s> stobix, I use vim too when on console
[07:01] <gordonjcp> stobix: see, that's exactly why I couldn't get into xmonad
[07:01] <stobix> anyhow, back to work. Thanks ezra-s. I'll continue to play with you in ~4-8 hours...
[07:02] <gordonjcp> stobix: I don't have time to do a degree in Comp Sci so I can learn Haskell so I can make it not have tiny pixelly grey-on-grey fonts
[07:02] <ezra-s> stobix, lol, have fun, don't work too hard ;)
[07:02] <stobix> gordonjcp: I already did that. :þ
[07:02] <stobix> ezra-s: thanks
[07:02] <ezra-s> btw, learning 72 shortcuts to handle a WM is not practical!!!
[07:03] <ooko0> LMAO agree
[07:03] <gordonjcp> stobix: for me, time spent fannying about writing pages of haskell to make a DE usable is time wasted
[07:04] <stobix> ezra-s: each of wasd+win+each of all permutations  of ctrl+alt+shift+none (Maybe not exactly 72, but meh.)
[07:04] <gordonjcp> stobix: I use unity because it works and that's what it comes with out of the box
[07:04] <stobix> gordonjcp: you have fun with that. Unity doesn't work IMO, and never will.
[07:04] <helmut_> hi
[07:04]  * stobix runs off to desktop 3 and starts working
[07:04] <gordonjcp> stobix: "doesn't work" in what way?
[07:05] <compx0_> Hi
[07:05] <burg> hello. no matter how i try to create a bootable usb, when i boot from it and choose 'check disk' it finds a file with a different md5sum. the iso image is not corrupted (i checked the md5sum)
[07:05] <ezra-s> stobix, in unity all you really need to learn is how to switch desktop to desktop, dash key, ALT, a maybe 2 or 3 more... but I understand some may prefer tiling
[07:05] <gordonjcp> stobix: I *used to* use multiple desktops, but now I can afford a large monitor, over 1000 pixels wide!
[07:05] <ooko0> you're doing it wrong then Burg
[07:05] <ezra-s> comparing unity vs titling is futile, they are totally different styles
[07:05] <compx0_> Hi
[07:05] <ooko0> hu
[07:05] <gordonjcp> ezra-s: yeah
[07:06] <ezra-s> is like comparing X with console
[07:06] <compx0_> need help
[07:06] <compx0_> hu
[07:06] <gordonjcp> ezra-s: tiling is horrible, why do people want to use an environment that looks like the 1980s?
[07:06] <burg> ooko0, i tried with twi different applications, then on command line with dd -- same result
[07:06] <gordonjcp> burg: USB stick dying?
[07:06] <ooko0> have you tried your drive on a different computer?
[07:06] <compx0_> need help
[07:07] <gordonjcp> !help | compx0_
[07:07] <ooko0> All i am saying is try the usb drive on a different computer to make sure that it works
[07:07] <compx0_> http://pastebin.com/uAsMgB5B
[07:08] <ooko0> ^^^ virus?
[07:08] <burg> gordonjcp, thought that and tried with another usb stick -- same result.
[07:09] <compx0_> my wifi is not working in laptop.
[07:15] <pradeepg> Hi ! I'm not able to connect to the MySQL DB which is running on AWS(Ubuntu 13.04) from another AWS server or even from my localhost. I have opened the port 3306 under security groups but still I don't know what's the problem.
[07:15] <compx0_> my wifi is not working
[07:15] <burg> also, the default bootable usb creator from ubuntu always fails (i use ubuntu gnome 13.04)
[07:16] <ooko0> so the other IRC servers suck
[07:17] <compx0_> my wifi is not working
[07:18] <weblife> my life is not working
[07:18] <weblife> can you fix it
[07:18] <weblife> ;x
[07:19] <compx0_> http://pastebin.com/uAsMgB5B
[07:19] <compx0_> when i installed it was
[07:19] <compx0_> working
[07:20] <wilee-nilee> !broadcom
[07:20] <quinnat> I am having a lot of trouble figuring out how to figure out what dhcp options i received, I thought they would be in the file /var/lib/dhcp/dhcp.leases
[07:21] <quinnat> searching on Google for dhcp leases file and linux gives me a lot of info on the server piece and or Microsoft (even with linux) attached
[07:21] <wilee-nilee> burg, I only see the usb creator not working I just came on there are handfuls of others unetbootin is commonly used
[07:22] <burg> wilee-nilee, same md5sum problem with unetbootin
[07:22] <wilee-nilee> burg, So te md5sum is wrong?
[07:22] <wilee-nilee> the*
[07:22] <wilee-nilee> of the iso?
[07:23] <tokern3> i installed juju but when i used it it gave me this error:           error: No environments configured. Please edit: /root/.juju/environments.yaml   it seems it's a bug . what should i do?
[07:24] <burg> wilee-nilee, the md5sum of the iso is correct
[07:24] <wilee-nilee> burg, Can you reiterate the problems you are having?
[07:30] <wilee-nilee> tokern3, I see a #juju channel as well
[07:34] <burg> wilee-nilee, no matter what i use to create the bootable usb, when i try to install it either tells me that one of the files is corrupted or that the installation cd-rom couldn't be mounted. the iso mdsum is correct
[07:36] <wilee-nilee> burg, So in general all you can do is knock out variables, I have had iso's that the sum was correct that did not work, are you getting to the desktop?
[07:37] <burg> wilee-nilee, i want to install ubuntu server 12.04 . i was trying with 12.04.2 and now i am trying with 12.04.3, but no success
[07:38] <wilee-nilee> burg, So this is the server download a text install?
[07:38] <burg> yes
[07:39] <wilee-nilee> burg, There is the mini netload that might be worth a try the download is tiny for the iso.
[07:39] <bu5m4n> Hello together, I have to setup a few laptops for multiple users, but these users should not be able to change/read the wlanpassword ... can any of you help me ?
[07:39] <bu5m4n> I want to use networkmanager !
[07:40] <wilee-nilee> burg, You could check the iso you have with the torrent download by changing their names to it.
[07:40] <wilee-nilee> iso's
[07:42] <reisio> bu5m4n: so don't tell them the keyring password
[07:43] <bu5m4n> okay thx for the tipp I will see if I get it ;) do you have any wiki entry how to do this ?
[07:45] <reisio> bu5m4n: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1919254
[07:45] <bu5m4n> thx :)
[07:46] <quinnat> for the record: nmcli dev list iface wlan0 to see which dhcp options were passed to the client
[07:51] <SwashBuckla> The price of an eight year-old dromedary camel: $1000qq
[07:57] <hacktus0> hi evrybody, how can i do for install dip (dial-up ip protocol) ? please ?
[08:09] <convoi> hacktus0, look here http://www.ubuntugeek.com/setting-up-dial-up-connection-in-ubuntu.html
[08:13] <hacktus0> convoi, OK thanks you for this help
[08:19] <matanya> is there anyone with access to the ubuntu website on this channel? there is a mistake there
[08:20] <wilee-nilee> matanya, not really, whats the mistake?
[08:20] <matanya> on some machines, when I choose the 64bit versions i get the 32 version
[08:21] <matanya> not sure if there is an error in the place the link is pointing to
[08:21] <matanya> but on some i get the correct link
[08:22] <tabby_> i downgraded to 12.04.3 LTS and when it scans for drivrs it gives me my wifi driver and says it cant install it
[08:22] <tabby_> because i couldnt have wifi in 13.04
[08:23] <wilee-nilee> matanya, Do hyou have noscript or a flash block running?
[08:23] <tabby_> i need help
[08:24] <wilee-nilee> matanya, Same happened here till I okayed the flash, in noscript, I think the cookies are in that.
[08:25] <wilee-nilee> tabby_, can you identify the wifi hardware?
[08:26] <tabby_> wilee-nilee: bcw4311
[08:26] <wilee-nilee> tabby_, were you in earlier with this problem and another nick?
[08:27] <tabby_> wilee-nilee: i was on before with another nick but it was a different problem and a different ubuntu version
[08:28] <wilee-nilee> !broadcom | tabby_ Not sure if you have seen this
[08:29] <tabby_> wilee-nilee: yes i saw it but i dont have a clue as to install it
[08:29] <wilee-nilee> tabby_, There is also this link. http://askubuntu.com/questions/55868/how-to-install-broadcom-wireless-drivers/60395#60395
[08:29] <wilee-nilee> tabby_, I'm not up on theses cards so all I can do is give theses links.
[08:29] <wilee-nilee> these*
[08:30] <matanya> wilee-nilee: i don't have noscript/flash block on this machine
[08:31] <wilee-nilee> matanya, I'm not sure than, I just found that as I described my attempt. There is an alternative downloads option though.
[08:32] <matanya> I know. i think it is related to the mirror you pick
[08:32] <kilopopo> ubuntu is nice
[08:32] <kilopopo> ;p
[08:33] <kilopopo> very looking good
[08:33] <matanya> when i use mirror.ox.ac.uk it happens every time
[08:33] <matanya> with others it doesn't
[08:33] <punzilla> hi all
[08:34] <punzilla> I'm attempting to run my work Citrix - using Citrix receiver, and I am having issues.
[08:34] <punzilla> can someone please assist, there doesn't seem to be a solution available on the internet.
[08:34] <gordonjcp> !help | punzilla
[08:35] <nu11s37> When using Ubuntu 12.04 using kernel 3.5.39. If I open firefox and then a terminal and then close the terminal, the system hangs
[08:35] <nu11s37> does not happen in 3.5.37
[08:36] <nu11s37> what should I do ?
[08:36] <penguinman> nu11s37, sounds like a kernel bug. you can backport the 3.8 kernel from raring if you want
[08:36] <wilee-nilee> penguinman, Tha would not be supported here is all.
[08:37] <wilee-nilee> and bad advice in general
[08:37] <nu11s37> I am using 12.04
[08:37] <nu11s37> I think the repos will be messed
[08:37] <nu11s37> dunno for sure
[08:38] <nu11s37> I am using 3.5.37
[08:38] <k1l> 12.04 got the kernel enablement stack.
[08:38] <nu11s37> Infact yesterday everything was working fine
[08:38] <k1l> but i dont think its the kernels fault in first place. take a look at syslog to see what is happening
[08:39] <penguinman> nu11s37, file a bug report.
[08:39] <nu11s37> I don't if it has been previously reported
[08:39] <penguinman> I don't think 12.04 is using staggered upgrades is it?
[08:40] <penguinman> the only reason I mention that is because if only a few people have they might not have run into that.
[08:40] <k1l> penguinman: please take care of what you advice :/ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack
[08:42] <nyuszika7h> hi, I was trying to debug why the PulseAudio alert sound is not working, and I found this with pulseaudio -v:
[08:42] <nyuszika7h> I: [pulseaudio] module-x11-bell.c: Ringing bell failed, reverting to X11 device bell.
[08:42] <nu11s37> does ubuntu use rsyslog
[08:42] <nu11s37> or syslog
[08:43] <nyuszika7h> nu11s37: it uses rsyslog by default.
[08:44] <nu11s37> k1l, where do I find syslog ?
[08:44] <k1l> nu11s37: /var/log/
[08:45] <nu11s37> It also sometimes say's xorg crashed or something
[08:46] <k1l> nu11s37: again: take a look into the logs. we cant just guess what is happening
[08:47] <nu11s37> should I pastebin it ?
[08:47] <k1l> yes
[08:47] <k1l> but i am afk now, so maybe other in here could help
[08:50] <nu11s37> Syslog is also reflecting network traffi
[08:50] <nu11s37> traffic*
[08:51] <runy> hi
[08:51] <reisio> suppah
[09:06] <Roland-> hello, simple question: how do I give write access to multiple users which are not in the same group ?
[09:08] <reisio> you could put them in a group
[09:12] <gribouille> hi
[09:12] <gribouille> hi
[09:13] <gribouille> when trying to remove a snapshot, I get an error message like this : Unable to deactivate open station-home-real (252:10)
[09:14] <diegothinkpad> hi
[09:29] <fat_zer0> test
[09:32] <auronandace> !test | fat_zer0
[09:33] <diegothinkpad> whats up
[09:35] <Guest85261> hey french?
[09:36] <vlt> !fr | Guest85261
[09:36] <gribouille> when trying to remove a snapshot, I get an error message like this : Unable to deactivate open station-home-real (252:10)
[09:36] <stardiviner> 请问这个二手的thinkpad X40 http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.14.4.lGOQWj&id=16676413833 怎么样？会不会有啥问题啊？
[09:37] <Guest85261> yes im french
[09:37] <convoi> !vi
[09:37] <Guest85261> and you?
[09:37] <convoi> !vn
[09:38] <Myrtti> !cn | stardiviner
[09:38] <lenzeor> Hey guys!
[09:39] <lenzeor> Have you tried elementaryOS?
[09:39] <Guest85261> hi ym a girl french xD
[09:39] <lenzeor> Guest85261, c'est pas possible! :o
[09:39] <convoi> Guest85261 type: /nick frenchgirl
[09:40] <ingrid_> je revien
[09:42] <ingrid_> y'a des français?
[09:43] <Roland-> ok I have a group, I add write access to that group but whenever a user edits a file another user cannot edit it naymore what can I do
[09:43] <ingrid_> :'CCCCC
[09:43] <ingrid_> xD
[09:46] <lenzeor> ingrid ily y en a tjrs! :)
[09:47] <SwashBuckla> lenzeor: they've disconnected
[09:48] <nopf> hi. on a 12.10 running 27 i sudenly lost the ability to switch workspaces via c-a-arrows. (super-s switcher works). also in firefox keys don't get through to the vimperator plugin, except i right-click the status bar, press ESC. then the keys get through for about 3 seconds. after that time, they get to the firefox itself only. i restartet firefox to no avail. any idea?
[09:48] <nopf> running for 27 days that is
[09:49] <zipper> For some reason apt isn't automatially installing dependencies even when I pass the --install-suggests param :C
[09:50] <Bella_> xD
[09:50] <zipper> I'm always getting
[09:50] <zipper> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[09:50] <Bella_> french?
[09:51] <MonkeyDust> !fr
[09:51] <Bella_> yes
[09:51] <Bella_> and girl xD
[09:51] <Bella_> mi little speak english
[09:51] <SwashBuckla> how do I revert back to the default X setup? I installed a proprietary AMD/ATI post-release driver and it's horribly broken. The display is shredded into lots of little slices of colour & no-color
[09:52] <SwashBuckla> and it flikers constantly
[09:53] <Bella_> join me by #ubuntu-fr
[09:53] <Bella_> the french ^^
[09:54] <Bella_> :'(
[09:54] <Bella_> :(
[09:54] <DJones> !clones
[09:55] <Bella_> monkeydust you french?
[09:56] <Kimberley_> french?
[09:56] <Bella_> :o
[09:56] <Bella_> une fr?
[09:56] <Kimberley_> ouiiiiii génial
[09:56] <Kimberley_> on parle dans le fr?
[09:57] <Bella_> oui sa serai mieu xD
[09:58] <Artog> Hello! I'm in a little pinch and need some help.
[09:58] <SwashBuckla> Artog: !ask
[09:58] <SwashBuckla> !ask | Artog
[09:59] <Artog> !patience
[09:59] <SwashBuckla> !patience | Artog
[09:59] <handuel> Is it possible to set up Ubuntu so users can use the mount and umount commands without sudo?
[10:00] <Artog> Right, Something on my server is eating memory, but nothing is showing in neighr top nor pas aux
[10:00] <Artog> ps aux*
[10:00] <Ben64> Artog: how do you know something is eating memory
[10:00] <handuel> Artog: how do you know memory is eaten if it isn't showing up
[10:01] <norbi> hi guys, ive installed arm-linux-gnueabi gcc but i cant find c++ in the include folder, why is that?
[10:01] <SwashBuckla> bite marks in the RAM
[10:01] <Artog> "free -m" is listing free memory as 9 mb free
[10:01] <lenzeor> Does anybody know if I can install the elementaryOS music app (noise) in ubuntu? I really like the polish and te sorting via albums...
[10:01] <handuel> norbi: I think you need arm-linux-gnueabi g++ as well
[10:01] <handuel> gcc only does C
[10:02] <MonkeyDust> norbi  there's also #ubuntu-arm
[10:02] <handuel> lenzeor: elementary OS has a debian PPA you can add, which allows you to install any elementary software.
[10:02] <ezra-s> Artog, how much mem do you see in "cached" when you do free -m ?
[10:03] <Artog> loads under free
[10:03] <Artog> so its some cache issue?
[10:03] <ezra-s> Artog, can you answer my question?
[10:03] <norbi> handuel: thanks
[10:03] <lenzeor> Thanks a lot, handuel. Do you have any links?
[10:03] <norbi> MonkeyDust: thank you
[10:04] <Artog> Can i paste the out put here ?
[10:04] <handuel> lenzeor: looking for one now
[10:04] <Artog> or is that spamming :)
[10:04] <ezra-s> Artog, you can use a pastebin if there are more than 1 lines
[10:05] <lenzeor> Got it
[10:05] <lenzeor> It's ppa:elementary-os/daily, handuel...
[10:05] <lenzeor> Let's see if it works
[10:05] <Artog> http://pastebin.com/EWm3LkuN
[10:05] <handuel> lenzeor: gd gd, sos I kept on finding the bzr repo instead
[10:06] <ezra-s> Artog, in any case when you have used your system for a while and it is not recently booted up Linux caches mem for fast access, Linux handles memory usage very well for speed, so unless you see some programs being killed due to all mem really used and swap being totally consumed, you don't need to worry
[10:06] <handuel> Is it possible to set up Ubuntu so users can use the mount and umount commands without sudo?
[10:06] <srinivas> aneesh
[10:07] <ezra-s> Artog, that shows as no mem is being used at all, all is cached
[10:07] <Ben64> only 37MB used? whats going on there
[10:07] <ezra-s> you probably ran an application that used some of it, and linux has cached it all in case you reopen it
[10:08] <ezra-s> Artog, you don't have any issues with memory usage
[10:08] <caf4926> I'm looking at using Bumblebee on 12.04 for a client, is there much maintenance involved? I mean does it look after itself?
[10:08] <Artog> I see, i use the server for a java-app. The app sometimes starts a subprocess. That subprocess can allocate memory and fails
[10:09] <ezra-s> Artog, why does it fail? how much memory is assigned to that process?
[10:09] <ezra-s> use pastebin for the output, although we're in offtopic already probably
[10:09] <Artog> i run the VM with 1024mb atm
[10:09] <ezra-s> it should fit in the total mem you have
[10:10] <Artog> even with 2048 i get "java.io.IOException: Cannot run program "ffmpeg": java.io.IOException: error=12, Cannot allocate memory"
[10:11] <Artog> there you also see the subprocess its trying to run
[10:11] <Ben64> Artog: looks like you've got a bug in whatever you're running on there
[10:11] <Artog> Maybe its just java that is the problem and the question should be asked elsewhere
[10:12] <Artog> can i clear the cache?
[10:13] <ezra-s> Artog, try assigning it 512 MB instead, use lower values
[10:13] <ezra-s> Artog, not that I know off, but you don't need to either, if it's cached most of it is available for use
[10:13] <navheb> Hello?
[10:13] <ezra-s> Artog, also try running it with root to see if it's a priviledge problem instead
[10:15] <ezra-s> Artog, I will bet your right hand it is not an issue with Linux memory handling, so forget that
[10:15] <Artog> I will try, some parts of the program takes some time. So i'll have to wait a bit until ill know
[10:15] <ezra-s> I'm 99,999999999999999999% sure
[10:15] <Artog> Ok, then I know. Thank you very much for the help :)
[10:16] <ezra-s> Linux handles memory very very very nicely
[10:16] <SwashBuckla> nicely!
[10:16] <SwashBuckla> nice :P
[10:16] <ezra-s> Artog, also, if you want more detailed info about usage, do "cat /proc/meminfo"
[10:17] <ezra-s> SwashBuckla, true, my bad
[10:17] <ezra-s> very very very very super hyper nice
[10:17] <ezra-s> :P
[10:17] <Artog> Thanks
[10:17]  * SwashBuckla renices ezra-s to lowest priority
[10:18] <SwashBuckla> ezra-s: no you were correct with the "nicely"
[10:18] <gribouille> when trying to remove a snapshot, I get an error message like this : Unable to deactivate open station-home-real (252:10)
[10:18] <ezra-s> Artog, a good indicator when memory is heavily used is when swap reaches it's peak, but if you see swap hardly touched... then there's surely not enough use
[10:18] <SwashBuckla> ezra-s: I was picking up on a joke
[10:18] <Artog> I should have thought of that ;)
[10:19] <ezra-s> SwashBuckla, ohh, english is not my first language so I'm deemed to fail in grammar once in a while, I thought you were right, didn't catch the joke, hehehe
[10:20] <Artog> Seems to be working now, though i really havn't done anything ^_^
[10:20] <navheb> I'm new to the IRC but would like to ask for help to what I feel is a simple issue that I simply can't find a solution to
[10:20] <navheb> Would this be the place to ask?
[10:20] <Artog> So, im off and thanks again :)
[10:20] <ezra-s> Artog, hehehe
[10:20]  * Artog waves
[10:20] <MrS1lentcz> hello, i have installed ubuntu 13 now and my browsers (chromium and firfeox) cannot loads css/images file from "com" domains, does anyone know why? i am from czech republic using english localization and prague timezone
[10:22] <ikonia> MrS1lentcz: is it every .com or just a few ?
[10:22] <X-User> MrS1lentcz, are you sure it is a problem with ubuntu 13.04 and not your ISP?
[10:23] <MrS1lentcz> ikonia:  google.com is ok, but skype.com, facebook.com not, czech domains are ok...
[10:23] <ikonia> MrS1lentcz: ok - so have you only tested sykpy.com and facebook.com
[10:23] <MrS1lentcz> X-User: i am using this computer for long time under windows 7 and i have not any problems
[10:23] <ikonia> MrS1lentcz: try some more, ebay.com, amazon.com etc etc.
[10:23] <ikonia> MrS1lentcz: there are a few things that can cause this .
[10:24] <MrS1lentcz> ikonia: amazon, ebay not...
[10:24] <ikonia> MrS1lentcz: not what ?
[10:24] <vice_> Hi guys, maybe someone can help me on that question? http://askubuntu.com/questions/337200/iphone-6-1-manager-for-ubuntu-unsupported-checksume
[10:24] <ikonia> MrS1lentcz: not broken, not working,
[10:24] <MrS1lentcz> ikonia: browser is reporting, css files is pending and there is failed status
[10:24] <ikonia> vice_: iphone / linux = unworkable solution
[10:24] <ikonia> MrS1lentcz can you take a screen shot of one of the failing sites please.
[10:24] <X-User> MrS1lentcz, is .org .net etc ok?
[10:25] <vice_> ikonia a u completely sure? is it really impossible to sync?
[10:25] <ikonia> vice_: not impossible, unworkable solution,
[10:25] <MrS1lentcz> i cannot login to my jabber/facebook/icq accounts
[10:25] <MrS1lentcz> too
[10:25] <vice_> ikona, ty :(
[10:25] <MrS1lentcz> X-User: yes
[10:26] <X-User> MrS1lentcz, as ikonia said take a screenshot and share.
[10:27] <MrS1lentcz> X-User:  ikonia  i have to go to lanch, i will write a 1 hour late, ok? :(
[10:27] <MrS1lentcz> *later
[10:27] <ikonia> MrS1lentcz: what's the point of asking for help to then leave ?
[10:27] <MrS1lentcz> ikonia: i had a phone by my friend now... :/
[10:27] <MrS1lentcz> ikonia: he is waintg before my house for me :/
[10:28] <MrS1lentcz> ikonia: i am so sorry..
[10:32] <X-User> vice_, is not AmaroK and Banshee working?
[10:34] <sunal> is there any way to undo changes I made to applications icons from preferences?
[10:37] <deanrock0> hi, is there any pdf plugin for chromium? hate to download pdfs just to see them
[10:38] <k1l> deanrock0: yes there is
[10:38] <deanrock0> k1l: would you please share the name:)
[10:39] <sunal> or you can use google's chrome, it by default can view pdf
[10:39] <k1l> deanrock0: then ask for the name ;p  Google Docs Viewer for PDF/PowerPoint
[10:43] <deanrock0> looks cool and works in most cases ... is there any that isn't tied to google cloud?
[10:52] <punzilla> Hi can someone please assist me to install and run icacitrix.
[10:52] <MonkeyDust> !find icacitrix
[10:53] <punzilla> I am using a 64bit linux
[10:54] <punzilla> when I tried installing citrix it exited with an error.
[11:00] <labsin> punzilla, maybe try out OpenXenManager
[11:00] <parapan> hi fellows, is anyone experienced with upgrading evolution mail client to the latest version ? or knows the proper ppa's ?
[11:01] <labsin> !find openxenmanager
[11:01] <punzilla> ok, I'll try downloading it now.
[11:02] <punzilla> I've had no luck with Citrix receiver all night, it's driving me bananas.
[11:03] <punzilla> I have a broken icaclient installed, should I try to uninstall it?
[11:04] <MonkeyDust> punzilla  80+ people in #citrix
[11:08] <labsin> I have installed it before, but can't remember if I had problems
[11:13] <g0to> hi
[11:13] <g0to> is it possible to install a Saucy package in Raring?
[11:14] <labsin> g0to, yes but some dependies could go wrong
[11:14] <g0to> labsin, any tip on the procedure to do it?
[11:14] <jonascj> anyone using Intel AMT kvm and Ubuntu server 12.04? I
[11:15] <jonascj> I'm getting blank screen after boot.
[11:15] <labsin> g0to, easieas is to download it from http://packages.ubuntu.com/ and install it using `dpkg -i ./*.deb` It will see if the dependies can match
[11:16] <labsin> and install the ones needed if available. Else you get a warning and possibly a lot of work
[11:16] <labsin> *Error
[11:16] <g0to> labsin, I already have the Raring version installed. Do you know if I can use the downloaded package to upgrade the package to the Saucy version?
[11:17] <MonkeyDust> g0to  saucy is not yet ready and stable
[11:19] <g0to> MonkeyDust, I know. But the package has a few bugs on Raring and I think the Saucy version will be better
[11:19] <g0to> Raring is using an alpha version of the program and Saucy a beta.
[11:19] <labsin> g0to, which package actually? It could, it could not. If it's the same name and new version, then yes, it'll upgrade it.
[11:20] <labsin> g0to, I've also had to install some Sausy packages on my Raring machine because Ubuntu doesn't update many packages after release because they don't want to introduce problems.
[11:21] <g0to> labsin, I'm talking about moc. The Music On Console application -> http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=moc&searchon=names&suite=all&section=all
[11:22] <labsin> g0to, then i'd look for a beta ppa
[11:22] <Dev_Antar> Hi
[11:22] <labsin> g0to, it has a lot of dependencies that are updated in sausy
[11:24] <labsin> g0to, like libmodplug1 etc...
[11:24] <wilee-nilee> labsin, g0to packages from ppa's and another release then you running are not supported here I hope you know.
[11:24] <labsin> wilee-nilee, yes. I know
[11:24] <wilee-nilee> cool, just making sure
[11:25] <g0to> wilee-nilee, me too. Thanks for the advice anyway ;)
[11:26] <fadim> what about Lubuntu then?
[11:26] <testUbuntu> I got pinged!
[11:27] <labsin> g0to, you could also just try. And to be completely safe, you could try in a VM.
[11:29] <Neroon> Hi there. wpa_supplicant problem (ndiswrapper) here, it say, i might have another process already running, but there is none. Anyone up for the task? :-)
[11:29] <testUbuntu> I got pinged!
[11:29] <k1l> testUbuntu: no bots/scripts in here, please
[11:29] <ZooIrene2> hey
[11:30] <ZooIrene2> Hello!
[11:30] <ZooIrene2> hey
[11:31] <testUbuntu> I got pinged!
[11:31] <jonascj> does the ubuntu server 1204 CD have live cd capabilities_?
[11:32] <jrib> jonascj: no, why do you want that?
[11:32] <Bella> hey irene
[11:32] <jonascj> I
[11:32] <Bella> ^^
[11:32] <g0to> labsin, the upgrade worked just fine. \o/ Thanks! ;)
[11:33] <funga> does palalk work with ubuntu?
[11:33] <funga> paltalk
[11:33] <g0to> labsin, no lack of dependencies nor any warning
[11:33] <g0to> labsin, now it's time to test the new version
[11:33] <jonascj> jrib: i have a remote machine stuck in grub rescue. I can make it boot (i think), but get a blank screen imediately after boot and SSH does not work. The only media available to the machine is a server 12.04 cd in it's optical drive ...
[11:33] <duoi> Hi all. I installed Ubuntu today (my first linux install!) but I'm having some issues with Wine if someone could kindly help. I keep getting the error "create_storagefile Storage share mode not implemented" and I'm not exactly sure how to go about fixing it.
[11:34] <jonascj> jrib *ssh does not work after what I think is a boot of the os (which leaves my vnc client with a blank screen)
[11:34] <jrib> jonascj: I see
[11:35] <Begginer555> I got pinged!
[11:38] <Neroon> duoi: not that i'm a wine expert, but when do you get that message? even when you start winecfg?
[11:38] <sonus> I have changed the icons for certain applications be launching nautalus in sudo and going to usr/share/applications and going into the applications prefrences and changing the icon from there, now I can't get it back to default
[11:39] <duoi> Neroon: I get it when opening the browser after installing pipelight. It attempts to install itself or bind to the plugin container at that stage I guess.
[11:39] <duoi> It follows with "err:mscoree:LoadLibraryShim error reading registry key for installroot" several times and then times out.
[11:39] <sonus> How can I make it so when I change the icon theme from something like unity tweak these icons will change too (I can still change them by going in through this long process
[11:42] <Neroon> duoi: so wine itself works with other windows applications or haven't you tried any other yet?
[11:43] <duoi> Neroon: I haven't tried yet. My main intention was to be able to get Silverlight running.
[11:44] <MonkeyDust> is silverlight still being maintained?
[11:44] <wilee-nilee> sonus, Using a hackneyed approach to this will not garner help from knowledgeable helpers, it takes to much time to find what you have done and trusting you to accurate in it is not likely.
[11:44] <MonkeyDust> or is it moonlinght?
[11:45] <wilee-nilee> be*
[11:45] <usr13> MonkeyDust: I think the Linux version is moonlight, but don't know if it is still active or not.
[11:45] <usr13> I think I heard that it's not.
[11:46] <funga> is it possible to use paltalk on ubuntu?
[11:46] <duoi> BRB
[11:46] <efxlab> hey girls
[11:47] <MonkeyDust> usr13  yes, just read, stopped "with no future plans"
 sorry, I am new to this
[11:47] <cfhowlett> !topic>efxlab,
[11:47] <cfhowlett> !topic|efxlab,
[11:47] <Neroon> can anyon help with a ndiswrapper/wpa_supplicant problem?
[11:48] <funga>  /msg nickserv identify douchebag
[11:48] <wilee-nilee> !anyone | Neroon
[11:48] <funga> oh sorry, oops
[11:48] <efxlab>  /topic
[11:48] <efxlab> ops
[11:48] <MonkeyDust> funga  change your password
[11:48] <efxlab> I dont understand bots
[11:48] <Neroon> wilee-nilee: thanks, but i tried that already
[11:49] <MonkeyDust> efxlab  nothing to understand: they are scripts, (ro)bots
[11:49] <usr13> !ubottu | efxlab
[11:49] <wilee-nilee> Neroon, Than have some patience, and give some details, details are the key for help.
[11:49] <efxlab> okay MonkeyDust ty
[11:49] <efxlab> when I say 'girls' it launch a script ?
[11:50] <usr13> no
[11:50] <efxlab> :)
[11:50] <Neroon> Hi there. wpa_supplicant problem (ndiswrapper) here, it say, i might have another process already running, but there is none. Anyone up for the task? :-)
[11:50] <cfhowlett> efxlab, no but it does invoke rage and irritation.  perhaps you might try a different channel ...
[11:50] <efxlab> rm -rf .
[11:50] <efxlab> okay
[11:50] <cfhowlett> !ops|efxlab,
[11:50] <wilee-nilee> !details > Neroon
[11:51] <efxlab> hey folks
[11:51] <efxlab> folks is ok ?
[11:51] <k1l> !guidelines | efxlab
[11:52] <k1l> efxlab: stick to technical support in here. we have #ubuntu-offtopic for the chatting
[11:52] <efxlab> I don't anything I did in this guideline
[11:52] <efxlab> strange
[11:52] <efxlab> I dont see
[11:53] <ojdo> mcabber (cli jabber client) newbie question: what does a "r->" next to a sent message in a one-to-one conversation mean? "read", "received"? I couldn't find it mentioned in the user guide or through google.
[11:53] <usr13> efxlab: /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:53] <efxlab> ok usr13
[11:53] <jonascj> any suggestions to blank screen on Ubuntu Server 12.04 just after booting, i.e. after seeing all the mount commands etc. being run?  I'm booting form grub "manually" so I can set kernel options if that helps.
[11:54] <Neroon> wilee-nilee: Details would be quite a lot. I tried this and that for two days now. All I can say at this point, when I star ndwiswrapper at the console with wpa_supplicant -iwlan0 -c/etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf, I get the message that it thinks I might have already another process of wpa_supplicant running which isn't the case, regarding to ps
[11:54] <wilee-nilee> jonascj, Just a server no X?
[11:54] <Marlenee> how i transfer files form ssh server to another ssh server
[11:54] <usr13> !nomodeset | jonascj
[11:55] <usr13> Marlenee: scp
[11:55] <jonascj> wilee-nilee: no x, just a server with what it the text terminal is called.
[11:55] <MonkeyDust> Marlenee  make sure both openssh-server and openssh-client are installed
[11:55] <wilee-nilee> jonascj, Try the nomodeset
[11:56] <jonascj> usr13: i have tried the nomodeset... but ill try a few more times
[11:56] <wizard_A> i have an wired internet connection, & then i create an ad-hoc network that is shared to other computers. What are the processes that are running that automatically assigns ip address to the node that connects to me?
[11:56] <motaka2> hello does anyone know a software which changes a scanned pdf of a book to a text pdf ?
[11:56] <Marlenee> MonkeyDust : how i know if they are openssh-server and openssh-client are installed
[11:56] <usr13> Marlenee: scp Documents/file-name.doc user-name@192.168.x.x
[11:56] <wilee-nilee> jonascj, adding it to the kernel? has this ever shown more than a black screen?
[11:56] <MonkeyDust> Marlenee  apt-cache policy [package name]
[11:57] <usr13> Marlenee: apt-get install openssh-server
[11:58] <jonascj> wilee-nilee: from grub rescue I do something like "linux /vmlinuz root=/dev/mapper/vg0-root ro nomodeset" and that still produces a blank screen when I do "initrd /initrd.img" followed finally by "boot"
[11:58] <urandom_> hi, I'd like to ask if anyone has had experience running Ubuntu on a specific laptop
[11:58] <Marlenee> <sr13 :openssh-server is already the newest version.
[11:58] <Marlenee> *usr13
[11:58] <cfhowlett> urandom_, yes I have run ubuntu specifically on a laptop.
[11:58] <usr13> jonascj: Anything at all on the "black screen"?
[11:59] <usr13> Marlenee: When you get that, you'll know that it is installed and running.
[12:00] <urandom_> cfhowlett: I meant a specific model laptop, will specify in a moment
[12:00] <cfhowlett> urandom_, details matter.
[12:00] <sonus> When running unity tweak tool what path is changed to make the icons different?
[12:00] <sonus> (I assume this is how this works)
[12:00] <jonascj> usr13: nope - but I suspect it is because I'm doing this via vnc. I however have read (like you made the bot suggest) that it is simply a matter of setting the right options in the kernel. Alot of people report ubuntu 10.x working just fine with their Intel AMT VNC while 12.x gives them headaches. And the thing that changes from version to version is how graphics are handled (changes to xorg...
[12:00] <jonascj> ...etc.). So I'm still hoping to make it work
[12:01] <urandom_> cfhowlett: yes, yes, of course, I was just feeling-out the question, wasn't sure how it would be received
[12:01] <cfhowlett> urandom_, OK this is silly.  ASK the frackin' question already and stop teasing!
[12:01] <cfhowlett> :)
[12:01] <urandom_> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834101309 Gateway NE51B16u
[12:02] <urandom_> sorry
[12:05] <usr13> urandom_: http://www.yumapk.com/how-to-install-ubuntu-13-04-on-gateway-ne51b16u.html
[12:07] <usr13> urandom_: Well, not real fond of those instructions, but it answers your question, "has anyone installed on the Gateway NE51B16u?"
[12:07] <jonascj> hmm now I do not even get to my blank screen because the boot is halted by "fsck: error 2 while executing fsck.erros=remount-ro for dev/mapper/vg0-root"
[12:08] <Myrtti> usr13: yeah, that page is a bit iffy
[12:08] <usr13> urandom_: In other words, I do *not* recommend what it is telling you to do in that article, (just to set the record straight).
[12:08] <urandom_> usr13: understood and thank you very much
[12:08] <usr13> NP
[12:09] <Myrtti> urandom_: my problem with the information on the newegg site is that it doesn't tell what wifi it has exactly
[12:09] <Myrtti> urandom_: googling the GPU name and model might tell you better if people have problems with getting the graphics right on it
[12:11] <usr13> Myrtti: http://us.gateway.com/gw/en/US/content/model/NX.Y1GAA.009
[12:11] <jonascj> usr13: after a few tries it worked with the no modeset. I do not know what was different form the unsuccessful tries to the successful one
[12:12] <Marlenee> any paste image site for ubuntu
[12:12] <wilee-nilee> !imagebin
[12:12] <basichash> How can I get sublime working so I can call it from terminal?
[12:13] <onlozz> Hello. Let's try a new chat app called Metahill. It will have all the good features of IRC, while adding something useful on top of that. For example the backlog of the channel/room is available for you even if you weren't in the room. You can join the newly created ubuntu room @  www.metahill.com/join/ubuntu  or read http://www.metahill.com/help/ for more info. What u think ?
[12:13] <urandom_> Myrtti and usr13: Thank you, will get back to you
[12:13] <usr13> Myrtti: urandom_ Looks like it is "Atheros", (see http://support.gateway.com/us/en/product/default.aspx?tab=1&modelId=4265 )
[12:13] <cfhowlett> onlozz, not the right channel for that ...
[12:14] <Marlenee> usr13 : mean transfer files like this - http://imagebin.org/268798
[12:14] <grimeton> is there any info available on which devices ubuntu one is already working>
[12:14] <grimeton> ?
[12:14] <basichash> How can I get sublime working so I can call it from terminal?
[12:14] <cfhowlett> grimeton, devices?  ubuntu one works on any device that'll run ubuntu.
[12:15] <aguitel> what twitter client is working under ubuntu ?
[12:15] <grimeton> cfhowlett: isn't ubuntu one the phone thing?
[12:15] <airtonix> basichash: install it properly? there is a .deb package you can install.
[12:15] <MonkeyDu1t> grimeton  you mean ubuntu ubuntu phone?
[12:15] <MonkeyDu1t> typo*
[12:15] <cfhowlett> !touch|grimeton, nope.
[12:15] <basichash> thanks
[12:15] <grimeton> ah thanks
[12:16] <Marlenee> i need filemanger like this -  http://imagebin.org/268799
[12:16] <usr13> Marlenee: What exactly is it?  (Which file manager is it?)
[12:16] <SwashBuckla> wahoo! I have Ubuntu 12.04.3 successfully installed on a laptop that came with Windows 8 :)
[12:17] <MrS1lentcz> hello, i have installed ubuntu 13 now and my browsers (chromium and firfeox) cannot loads css/images file from "com" domains, does anyone know why? i am from czech republic using english localization and prague timezone
[12:17] <usr13> Marlenee: I don't think that is an image of a file manager.  So, what is it exactly that you want?
[12:17] <MrS1lentcz> ikonia: i am back...
[12:17] <MonkeyDu1t> SwashBuckla  tip: share your experience with the community, in a blog or so
[12:17] <SwashBuckla> The SONY Vaio SVE1712Q1EW
[12:17] <SwashBuckla> MonkeyDu1t: yeah ok. Where would be an appropriate place to share it with the community?
[12:18] <SwashBuckla> MonkeyDu1t: ubuntu forums?
[12:18] <Marlenee> usr13 this if file on free host site
[12:18] <usr13> Marlenee: Although I do not think webmin is supported anymore, some type of customized version of it may be what you are looking for, or something similar. Right?
[12:18] <Marlenee> *file mangager
[12:18] <usr13> Marlenee: Where?
[12:19] <ZooIrene2> hey
[12:19] <Marlenee> http://www.3owl.com
[12:19] <usr13> Marlenee: It is not really a file manager.  It is a GUI for a server.  (Web-based interface.)
[12:19] <MrS1lentcz> ikonia: are you here? i am uploading screen shot now
[12:19] <ZooIrene2> Great!!
[12:20] <usr13> Marlenee: Where did you get that image from?
[12:20] <MonkeyDu1t> MrS1lentcz  ask the channel, don't highlite the same person too often if s/he is not there
[12:20] <usr13> !webmin | Marlenee
[12:20] <SwashBuckla> MonkeyDu1t: Where would be an appropriate place to share it with the community?
[12:21] <Marlenee> usr13: i get this from my account that site
[12:21] <Marlenee> its free
[12:21] <usr13> Marlenee: Are you building a server?
[12:21] <Marlenee> i have ssh server and i want to install this filemanger (Web-based interface.)
[12:21] <MonkeyDu1t> SwashBuckla  anywhere, yes, look in ubuntu forums
[12:21] <Marlenee> yes
[12:22] <sun_a> where are the default icons for applications stored (or do they always draw on the global icon folder?)
[12:23] <vice_> Guys, why Skype always asking me link open source (chromium)? How can i do it forever. Theres no checkbox for that. Thx!
[12:24] <outch3> ubottu : just installed webmin fore some initial mail server  configuration 2 days ago, yes some parameters of the config files were wrong, had to edit manually and shut down webmin after but it can still be useful for a "kick-start" config,
[12:24] <usr13> Marlenee: http://vdeck.com/
[12:24] <outch3> oh
[12:24] <outch3> i see
[12:27] <Marlenee> usr13: apt-get install vdesk ??
[12:28] <usr13> Marlenee: No
[12:28] <outch3> look at this marlenee
[12:28] <outch3> http://lifehacker.com/5993596/how-to-set-up-your-own-private-cloud-storage-service-in-five-minutes-with-owncloud
[12:28] <outch3> lien pour utiliser le démo :
[12:28] <outch3> http://demo.owncloud.org/index.php/apps/files
[12:28] <FloodBot1> outch3: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:28] <outch3> I think this is what you want
[12:28] <cfhowlett> !fr|outch3,
[12:29] <outch3> ok ok
[12:29] <outch3> so many bots
[12:29] <outch3> Just pasted a bit of french (from an email that I sent) and policebots are all over me
[12:29] <z0ran> im using 12.04 ubuntu, and im trying to install  "python-virtinst"..it tells me that is unable to locate package...any idea why...please...thanks in advance
[12:29] <urandom_> Myrtti: usr13: yeah, checked the Gateway link you posted and also the Amazon page for that model...looks like there is no way to tell exact wifi chip
[12:30] <MrS1lentcz> test
[12:30] <MrS1lentcz> hello, can somone help me with my troubles?
[12:30] <usr13> Marlenee: but are you sure you need all that?
[12:31] <cfhowlett> !ask|MrS1lentcz,
[12:31] <jonascj> finally back in my ubuntu server 12.04 after being stuck in grub rescue and at a blank screen after boot. Now I need to reinstall grub but I'm getting an error: "sudo grub-install /dev/mapper/vg0-root: warn: Attempting to install grub to a partitionless disk or to a partition. This is a BAD idea"... but as far as I know /dev/mapper/vg0-root is what is mounted my root /
[12:31] <MrS1lentcz> cfhowlett:  i asked maybe third at top
[12:31] <MrS1lentcz> *3x :))
[12:32] <cfhowlett> MrS1lentcz, sorry didn't spot it.  but if no one is responding , be patient and check other resources, forums
[12:32] <MrS1lentcz> cfhowlett:  but i am from web client here and i cannot find history...
[12:32] <outch3> MrS1lentcz : any funky proxy?
[12:32] <MrS1lentcz> cfhowlett:  i cannot read forums if com domains not work on my system
[12:33] <outch3> MrS1lentcz : try via a free proxy to see if the error still occurs
[12:34] <outch3> MrS1lentcz : http://www.ninjaproxy.ca/
[12:34] <MrS1lentcz> outch3:  where can i find it?
[12:34] <urandom_> I wouldn't consider a random proxy safe
[12:34] <MrS1lentcz> oh
[12:34] <MrS1lentcz> outch3: fhx
[12:34] <MrS1lentcz> *thx
[12:34] <urandom_> Beter to use Tor
[12:35] <outch3> urandom : just to trobleshoot an issue? no.
[12:35] <outch3> lifelike : hey fellow canadian
[12:36] <lifelike> outch3: hello
[12:36] <MrS1lentcz> outch3: mmm, proxy works, but i need it at this time... i have many pcs and notebooks and they are working without problems... windows 7 and linux minut...
[12:36] <MrS1lentcz> outch3:  why ubuntu not? :/
[12:36] <MonkeyDu1t> MrS1lentcz  start from the beginning, what brings you here
[12:36] <outch3> MrS1lentcz : good question
[12:36] <gnerd> Whats up with ubuntu 13.04 screen flickering on some pcs but not all?
[12:37] <outch3> MonkeyDu1t : scroll up, css/images no load in firefox/chrome
[12:37] <gnerd> Worked on my desktop but was buggy as hell on laptop
[12:37] <usr13> MrS1lentcz: So you are filtering content with a proxy?
[12:37] <outch3> MrS1lentcz : any add-ons in your browser
[12:37] <MrS1lentcz> usr13:  i have new system with default settings
[12:37] <MrS1lentcz> a few minutes
[12:38] <usr13> MrS1lentcz: If you have a proxy server, you'll have to tall FF and apt to use it.
[12:38] <usr13> *tell*  not tall
[12:38] <MrS1lentcz> usr13:  i have never proxy
[12:39] <usr13> MrS1lentcz: And your problem is that you are unable to access the internet?
[12:39] <MrS1lentcz> usr13:  not really, " com"  domains cannot load css files and images
[12:39] <MrS1lentcz> usr13:  look here http://2imgs.com/5a1e2f05d6
[12:40] <Dark_light> Is anyone already using 13.10 on a daily basis, if so how's it shaping up ? already usable?
[12:40] <MonkeyDu1t> Dark_light  #ubuntu+1
[12:40] <Dark_light> MonkeyDu1t: thanks
[12:40] <usr13> MrS1lentcz: Not sure what I am looking at.  What problem are we actually trying to solve here?
[12:40] <cfhowlett> !ubuntu+1|Dark_light
[12:41] <Marlenee> usr13 : this links are not helping me
[12:41] <usr13> MrS1lentcz: Internet conection problem?
[12:42] <MrS1lentcz> usr13:  on my notebook is all ok
[12:43] <MrS1lentcz> usr13:  oh, not sure, i am so sorry
[12:43] <usr13> Marlenee: http://vdeck.com/  (Click "CONTACT")
[12:43] <MrS1lentcz> usr13:  internet problems... i am so sorrryyy :(
[12:43] <usr13> MrS1lentcz: What is your native language?
[12:45] <usr13> Marlenee: Is it that you don't really want vDeck but you want something similar to it?
[12:45] <MrS1lentcz> usr13:  czech - but now i know, there is internet problem, so i am so sorry for your last time :(
[12:47] <Antar> Hi
[12:47] <Marlenee> usr13 : yes
[12:48] <Antar> 100% cpu usage when using flash player on chrome ??
[12:49] <Antar> .... ???
[12:49] <usr13> !ebox | Marlenee
[12:49] <Antar> anibdy hir ??
[12:51] <litropy> What log do I read for PCI events? I'm thinking there's a short in my hardware, but I'm not sure.
[12:51] <usr13> litropy: lspci
[12:53] <litropy> usr13, doesn't that just list the PCI devices and not events such as deregistration and re-registration?
[12:54] <usr13> litropy: Correct  Maybe you want dmesg
[12:54] <usr13> litropy: or  /var/log/syslog
[12:55] <litropy> usr13, last I checked, what I'm looking for wasn't there, but I'll check again thx
[12:56] <The_Phoenix> Am using Ubuntu Cuztomization Kit to remaster a LiveISO. apt-get upgrade from the console seems to keep crashing when updating the kernel?
[12:57] <lmat> On `man 2 connect`, which interface is used to connect ?
[12:59] <igalic> Hello happy people o/~
[13:00] <lmat> perhaps I see it... setsockopt ?
[13:00] <usr13> litropy: tail -f /var/log/syslog
[13:00] <igalic> since my last reboot something's changed: all my window decorations are gone, as is transparency, screen-edges and everything else that would otherwise be associated with a working Desktop Environment.. like, you know, managing more than one window and stuff like that.
[13:00] <igalic> I was wondering, how do I find out what the heck is going on?
[13:01] <lmat> igalic: What version of Ubuntu, happy person ?
[13:02] <igalic> lmat: 13.04, Kubuntu, amd64
[13:02] <usr13> igalic: http://askubuntu.com/questions/17610/how-do-i-reset-my-unity-configuration
[13:02] <igalic> usr13: no.
[13:03] <mnewton> How do I edit the service that start by default on login - I dont want memcache, nginx, and mongo running by default until I sudo service __ start them
[13:03] <lmat> usr13: I don't think he's using unity.
[13:03] <usr13> igalic: Are you having problems with unity?
[13:03] <lmat> mnewton: What ubuntu version ?
[13:03] <lmat> mnewton: What window manager ?
[13:03] <usr13> igalic: What Desktop Environment are you using?
[13:03] <mnewton> lmat: 12.10 and xmonad
[13:03] <lmat> usr13: He said he's using kubuntu...
[13:04] <usr13> igalic: Are you using KDE?
[13:04] <igalic> usr13: no. I'm using KDE, and I don't have any problems with KDE which would warrant a "reset".
[13:04] <litropy> igalic, you might want to head over to #kde
[13:04] <ojdo> [repost] mcabber (cli jabber client) newbie question: what does a "r->" next to a sent message in a one-to-one conversation mean? "read", "received"? I couldn't find it mentioned in the user guide or through google.
[13:04] <mnewton> lmat: I also have gnome3 instaleld
[13:04] <wizard_A> i have an wired internet connection, & then i create an ad-hoc network that is shared to other computers. What are the processes that are running that automatically assigns ip address to the node that connects to me?
[13:04] <usr13> igalic: http://askubuntu.com/questions/109530/how-do-i-restore-my-kde-desktop-to-default
[13:05] <litropy> or #kwin, for that matter
[13:05] <lmat> mnewton: Well... I happen to be familiar with the unity way, and I don't know what it's doing under the covers ^_^
[13:06] <mnewton> lmat: what's the unity way, it will give me a point of googling
[13:06] <zlude> Hello! i need a help with ssh client options. when i try ssh to a host and is busy i can exit with CRTL+C, sure? but, when i'm using a script with ssh keys? and host is busy? connection does not exit from a busy host. can i set something like timeout in ssh options?
[13:06] <lmat> mnewton: I assume you tried http://askubuntu.com/questions/19320/ ?
[13:06] <igalic> usr13: again, this is not necessarily something that warants a reset of my configuration - hardly anything does.
[13:07] <usr13> igalic: What do you want to do?
[13:07] <usr13> igalic: /join #kde  ?
[13:07] <litropy> igalic, the program that manages the stuff you're having a problem with is kwin
[13:08] <litropy> in normal ubuntu, as opposed to kubuntu, that program is unity.
[13:08] <siva> hi every one
[13:08] <lmat> igalic: Try running glxgears ?
[13:08] <litropy> You're talking to people who know much more about unity than kwin
[13:09] <lmat> igalic: I had a windowing problem before and it was because I had the wrong graphics driver.
[13:09] <urandom_> There's a #kubuntu channel
[13:10] <usr13> igalic: KDE System Settings is more-than-likely what you want, or kwin
[13:10] <igalic> usr13: yes. kwin is what I want.
[13:11] <igalic> I accidentally uninstalled kde-window-manager
[13:11] <igalic> so kwin was failing to start.
[13:11] <lmat> igalic: Glad you got sorted :) Good luck!
[13:11] <Guest87353> i installed ubuntu 13.04 2weeks back..now whats my problem is when ever i am using ubuntu an window is displaying saying" system program problem detected"...
[13:11] <Guest87353> how to solve this problem
[13:13] <ooko0> nothing is going on
[13:13] <MonkeyDu1t> Guest87353  you can disable that, it's apport
[13:13] <Guest87353> any solution
[13:13] <Felishia> got a question, why suddenly my hda intel sound card works without doing anything when before I had to do a hundred million tasks to make it work
[13:13] <Guest87353> MonkeyDu1t, how
[13:13] <Felishia> I mean it's the same distro, no updates :s
[13:13] <Felishia> xubuntu 13.04
[13:14] <tq> Guest87353 I've seen this, a minute
[13:14] <Felishia> some people here must remember me battling with the sound card in live season but when I perform the installation without doing configuration then my speakers sound properly
[13:14] <Guest87353> tq, ok
[13:14] <thepeopleschamp> hi
[13:14] <MonkeyDu1t> Guest87353  here http://askubuntu.com/questions/93457/how-do-i-enable-or-disable-apport
[13:14] <thepeopleschamp> i need some help
[13:15] <cfhowlett> !details|thepeopleschamp,
[13:15] <thepeopleschamp> is someone available to chat private?
[13:15] <thepeopleschamp> so i can easyly just write down all in one?
[13:15] <Felishia> ubuntu is always giving me surprises... that's just so weird
[13:15] <cfhowlett> thepeopleschamp, not how it works.  put your problem up so all can see.
[13:15] <usr13> thepeopleschamp: Yes
[13:15] <Leidenfrost> Hi guys, my ubuntu install doesn´t boot. Can someone give me a hand please?
[13:15] <Leidenfrost> It just hangs after mounting the root partition
[13:15] <MonkeyDu1t> thepeopleschamp  careful with private advice, in case it's wrong, there's no one to correct it
[13:16] <Felishia> nah I don't really have a question for a issue, the problem solved by itself, alone; that's my question, how can that happen?
[13:17] <Felishia> I was thinking about updates but I didn't update anything :s
[13:18] <thepeopleschamp> my problem is
[13:18] <thepeopleschamp> i just got my webcam workin with my computer HP 635 on ubuntu
[13:18] <thepeopleschamp> but the quality is just gray
[13:18] <ses1984> i'm using 12.04, i just installed a couple of network printers and there's a red exclamation mark emblem next to their icons in the printer administration window, but their status says idle - ready to print,
[13:18] <ChogyDan> thepeopleschamp: please put it all in one line
[13:18] <ses1984> so i'm trying to figure out what's the cause of the red exclamation mark
[13:19] <ses1984> also, it was no problem re-adding them, but i had them before and for some reason last time i rebooted, they all disappeared, like my entire printer configuration was wiped out
[13:19] <thepeopleschamp> like it isnt a icc profile workin, i got it workin with firefox in a webcam chat page nice, i am just tryin to change the quality on my cam, so it shows colors , how can i fix this?
[13:19] <thepeopleschamp> latest ubuntu, hp 635
[13:21] <thepeopleschamp> if someone could help me find the files, so i could calibrate it?
[13:21] <thepeopleschamp> i have tried searchin for the files wacom, but i cant seem to find both files, either if i try the suo code in terminal, or in google, can someone help me locate a download to each of these files?
[13:22] <ChogyDan> thepeopleschamp: maybe try guvcview
 http://www.techdrivein.com/2013/06/30-things-to-do-after-installing-ubuntu1304-raring.html
[13:25] <thepeopleschamp_> still there?
[13:25] <ChogyDan> Leidenfrost: how did you install ubuntu?  what version?
[13:25] <thepeopleschamp_> it looks like i need files for calibration
[13:26] <thepeopleschamp_> can someone help me find a pair?
[13:26] <thepeopleschamp_> cep and image file it says
[13:27] <Marlenee> why "byobu" keep running after i treminate it ?
[13:28] <bean> Marlenee: because byobu is screen, it's meant to run in the background
[13:28] <Guest87353> tq, how to come out from apport after editing
[13:29] <Marlenee> bean : i treminate it and its keep runnig i also restart  the server and when i log on my server its start by default
[13:30] <MonkeyDu1t> thepeopleschamp_  if you don't get an answer here, try #ubuntu-studio, it's multimedia dedicated
[13:30] <Marlenee> and it show me line at the end of putty programme - http://paste.ubuntu.com/6028651/
[13:30] <bean> Marlenee: yes, by default it can be set up to run once a login shell is enabled.
[13:31] <bean> Marlenee: use "byobu-disable" if you dont want it to start automatically
[13:35] <Guest87353> i have only  one user.which i created during installation...which i felt it is an root..but now it is asking enter root paswd ...how to know my root paswd
[13:35] <cfhowlett> !root|Guest87353,
 its your password
[13:36] <tq> if U created only one account, then it has access to sudo
[13:36] <Guest87353> but it is asking root paswd..i never created any such user..i know only one paswd
[13:36] <Wodabe> hi. is there an easy way to log every connection on a specific port for next 24 hour?
[13:36] <tq> that account is an administrator of the system
[13:37] <Marlenee> i install VNC on my server - what next - http://askubuntu.com/questions/229536/how-enable-desktop-sharing-for-vps-server-ubuntu-12-04?rq=1
[13:38] <Guest87353> sorry i got it...
[13:38] <tq> Guest87353, have you tried your regular password?
[13:38] <tq> ok :)
[13:39] <florentin> hello
[13:39] <florentin> I have a problem with my kubuntu
[13:39] <florentin> can you help me?
[13:39] <jonascj> when booting I see "fsck: error 2 while executing fsck.erros=remount-ro for /dev/mapper/vg0-root". vg0-root is my logical volume containing /. What should I do. This halts my boot process. I can get into the OS by pressing I for ignore and a couple of S's for skip. But that doesn't feel like a solution. Any hints?
[13:40] <bean> florentin: just ask your quuestion
[13:40] <Marlenee> bean : how i login to my vnc what programme ?
[13:40] <bean> jonascj: is that a direct copy paste?
[13:41] <bean> Marlenee: you don't need VNC.
[13:41] <Leidenfrost> ChogyDan: Raring, I tried using both debootstrap and the ubuntu installer
[13:41] <cfhowlett> !ask|florentin,
[13:41] <jonascj> bean: sorry, a direct copy of what?
[13:42] <bean> the error.
[13:42] <florentin> thanks bean :  today i put a new graphic card in my computer but now i need to go in recovery mode to use kubuntu,if I lauch kubuntu in grub i see no signal
[13:43] <jonascj> bean: yes. But I actually think I've found the cause. Somehow the space between /dev/mapper/vg0-root and / (which is the mountpoint) has disappeared. That causes it to try to mount it on /ext4 which does exist. I'll try to fix that and see if it helps
[13:43] <bean> florentin: please don't direct questions at me :) just write to the channel. I don't know anything about video cards in linux.
[13:43] <Guest87353> tq,actually i tried to edit apport file using gksu command...thats why it asked for root paswd of su...then i realized and changed to gksudo...then it works
[13:43] <bean> jonascj: yep, also make sure that its "errors=remount-ro", not "erros"
[13:44] <Guest87353> Why in my system it is asking every time to enter key ring....what is that for....
[13:44] <florentin>  today i put a new graphic card in my computer but now i need to go in recovery mode to use kubuntu,if I lauch kubuntu in grub i see no signal  can you help me?
[13:45] <k1l> Guest87353: password encryption for wifi password
[13:45] <Guest87353> how to desable it
[13:45] <jonascj> bean> that was it. a mistake in fstab. Thanks for asking/trying to help.
[13:45] <Guest87353> disable
[13:46] <bean> jonascj: np
[13:46] <bean> Guest87353: you dont want to disable it
[13:46] <Guest87353> i am getting irritation on seeing that....while doing my work..
[13:46] <Guest87353> bean,then what to do
[13:46] <bean> Guest87353: type your password?
[13:47] <Guest87353> bean, are u joking...i asking for solution not same
[13:47] <bean> Guest87353: It's asking for your keyring password, no?
[13:48] <pbt> !emacs
[13:52] <Guest87353> bean,but how many times i have to enter the same...
[13:52] <bean> how often does it apepar
[13:57] <thepeopleschamp_> somebody gotta know this
[13:57] <bean> !ask | thepeopleschamp_
[13:57] <thepeopleschamp_> when ubuntu color app is tryin to get webcam installed during calibration
[13:57] <thepeopleschamp_> witch files is it tryin to install?
[13:57] <thepeopleschamp_> i need to find these files and choose them manually?
[13:58] <bean> thepeopleschamp_: I can't say I've ever done anything with that -- most webcams i've used have "just worked'
[13:58] <thepeopleschamp_> yea mine to, its just the color is so gray
[13:58] <thepeopleschamp_> basically not working
[13:59] <arivendu> m getting the error:could not update /home/user/.ICEauthority file...at login
[13:59] <arivendu> did ls-l .ICEauthority
[13:59] <arivendu> it shows the owner as the <user>
[13:59] <bean> arivendu: what are the permissions on it
[14:00] <arivendu> -rw
[14:00] <bean> thepeopleschamp_: have you tried to find your cam in this list https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeWebCams
[14:00] <arivendu> bean:its -rw-r--r---
[14:01] <arivendu> bean:lso tried mv with it
[14:02] <bean> arivendu: and your username is 'user'?
[14:03] <arivendu> bean: by <user> i mean the user name at log in
[14:03] <bean> arivendu: and it's owned by your username, and your group name?
[14:03] <arivendu> yes
[14:04] <bean> arivendu: hmm, is it causing things to not work?
[14:04] <arivendu> bean:m not able to login
[14:04] <bean> sudo chown username:username .ICEauthority
[14:04] <bean> sudo chmod 0644 .ICEauthority
[14:04] <bean> that should do it.
[14:04] <arivendu> bean:olredy tried dat
[14:05] <ChogyDan> my ICEauth is 600
[14:05] <bean> thats worth a shot too
[14:05] <bean> what are are the permission on your home directory, arivendu
[14:06] <arivendu> u mean /home
[14:06] <bean> no /home/$USER
[14:06] <arivendu> or /home/<user>
[14:06] <ocooel> When installing google-chrome.deb does this continue to update without adding google repo..?
[14:08] <arivendu> its -drwxr-xr-x
[14:08] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[14:09] <bean> arivendu: whats the output of ls -la /home/
[14:09] <ziadingo> hi
[14:09] <cfhowlett> ziadingo, greetings
[14:09] <ziadingo> help me, how install  libasound2-plugins:i386
[14:09] <Chloro> Hello Blueskaj, ziadingo, cfhwlett
[14:10] <BluesKaj> hi Chloro
[14:10] <bean> ziadingo: "apt-get install libasound2-plugins" ?
[14:10] <ziadingo> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13: Permission denied)
[14:10] <ziadingo> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
[14:10] <bean> sudo
[14:10] <ziadingo> im write but get this result
[14:10] <bean> ziadingo: sudo apt-get install libasound2-plugins
[14:10] <cfhowlett> sudo apt-get install libasound2-pluglins
[14:11] <BluesKaj> ziadingo, do you have a package manager open?
[14:11] <MonkeyDu1t> !info libasound2-plugins
[14:12] <runing_froger> hello, I got question. Im wondering which signals are sending to all processes during the shutdown on Ubuntu. I know that system is sending signals like SIGTERM and after that SIGKILL, but are there others? Is it possible to s it (for runing application/process) possible to distinguish whether the system shuts down or just reboot ?
[14:13] <runing_froger> or is there maybe an application that can detect whitch signals are send to process duing shut down/reboot
[14:13] <bean> runing_froger: i believe it will send a SIGTERM, and then if they don't all close it'll send a SIGKILL
[14:14] <bean> so i'm not sure what you're asking
[14:14] <runing_froger> yes I already know that
[14:14] <runing_froger> but my problem is
[14:14] <runing_froger> can process know if system, is going to shut down or reboot
[14:15] <bean> runing_froger: unlikely, and it wouldn't matter anyways
[14:16] <runing_froger> so where is saved information for machine that system is going to reboot
[14:16] <runing_froger> probably system need save somewhere this information
[14:16] <bean> runing_froger: it's not saved anywhere, it's just a different "run level"
[14:16] <MonkeyDu1t> runing_froger  there's upstart-monitor, maybe that's what you want   "Upstart is an event-based replacement for the /sbin/init daemon which handles starting of tasks and services during boot, stopping them during shutdown and supervising them while the system is running."
[14:16] <messa4> hi
[14:16] <messa4> anyone here?
[14:17] <bean> runing_froger: when you tell it to shut down, your computer enters run level 0, when it reboots, it enters run level 6.
[14:17] <cfhowlett> messa4, greetings
[14:17] <messa4> :)
[14:18] <mefistochen> @messa4: a lot of people here
[14:19] <messa4> What is the best "block size" and "bytes per inode" for cheap SSD card? (prom perspective of endurance - not speed)
[14:19] <messa4> for ext4
[14:20] <runing_froger> ok so last question im little newbie on irc, how u make highlighted response on my questions? :)
[14:20] <messa4> ssd block is 512kb, but i can choose only 1024, 2048 and 4098 block sizes [bytes]. which one is the best for me?
[14:20] <MonkeyDu1t> runing_froger  by putting you nick in front, type two letters and the [tab] to complete
[14:21] <MonkeyDu1t> typos*
[14:21] <runing_froger> which letters?
[14:21] <ocooel> Does google-chrome.deb update itself once installed..?
[14:21] <runing_froger> runing_froger AaaA
[14:21] <bean> runing_froger: by starting to type your name and hitting tab.
[14:21] <runing_froger> runing_froger: ok
[14:22] <runing_froger> bean: ok thx
[14:22] <bean> np
[14:22] <runing_froger> does it work ?
[14:22] <bean> yes
[14:22] <runing_froger> thank you very much :)
[14:22] <bean> messa4: i'd probably just leave it at the default
[14:22] <runing_froger> I think that this runlevel should resolve my problem aswell
[14:22] <thepeopleschamp> hi
[14:23] <thepeopleschamp> anyone knows how i can easy get american radio station hot97 ?
[14:23] <messa4> bean: heh no
[14:23] <thepeopleschamp> playin in ubuntu?
[14:23] <thepeopleschamp> maybe an app that works crossing to american ip
[14:23] <bean> messa4: why? if you make it any  bigger you'll have HUGE effective writes.
[14:23] <bean> thepeopleschamp: you'd need a proxy to america,
[14:24] <messa4> bean: i just want to know which size is better: 1024, 2048 or 4096.
[14:24] <messa4> for ssd
[14:25] <bean> messa4: so, it won't really help you speed wise, really it depends on the size of your files.
[14:25] <compdoc> messa4, best to let the OS or gparted decide
[14:26] <messa4> compdoc: im using fdisk
[14:26] <mefistochen> try this http://www.hot97.com/StreamHot/index.aspx
[14:26] <bean> messa4: seriously, if you set very large, your files will use more disk space than they take up
[14:26] <bean> messa4: best to keep it at the default.
[14:27] <messa4> compdoc: im expert user. I know waht im doing. I just dont know which block size is best for SSD (never used them before).
[14:27] <messa4> i know all penatlies about size, inodes etc. but no about ssd wear-out etc
[14:27]  * cfhowlett ... biting my cheek quite hard now ...
[14:28] <bean> ....
[14:28] <bean> lol
[14:28] <messa4> any ssd expert here?
[14:29] <mefistochen> Do someone know how to easily install a php debugger. Didn't work with Eclipse.
[14:29] <bean> messa4: an SSD has a finite number of writes, I doubt /any/ of those options will have an effect on how many writes you can do.
[14:30] <bean> mefistochen: I would just debug it by adding in print statements, no need for an IDE
[14:30] <A1Recon> sometimes when i use the wget command i get "403 forbidden"? Is it because of the robots.txt file??
[14:31] <sinjax> hello! I'm having some strange problems with eclipse in ubuntu. Eclipse has been crashing without any warning whatsoever. This happens occationally when the window gets focus, but not all the time. Sometimes when switching from debug to java perspectives, but not all the time. It is fairly infrequent. Not sure whether to post this on #ubuntu or #eclipse, so i'll try both with this same message!
[14:31] <mefistochen> I want to watch every variable after every step. Sometimes I want to go into a function or something. There's a lot of code. Print-messages after every step? Breakpoints can be easily set and get unactived etc.
[14:33] <sinjax>  ...but sometimes it isn't infrequent and will happen every 1 minute or so! :D I've checked the log in workspace/.metadata/log but there doesn't seem to be any specific thing that happens when the crashes occur  I've also tried upgrading eclipse (from Juno to Kepler) and that doesn't seem to have done anything either  the weirdest thing is that there is no error, ubuntu doesn't even seem to notice it has even closed! It just..
[14:33] <sinjax> .closes...gone....  i'm really not sure how to begin debugging this, all my googling has come across some similar errors but with very old version so eclipse (2011? or so)  so yeah! anyone know how i can investigate?
[14:37] <daftykins> sinjax: my first recommendation would be talking to java or eclipse people rather than ubuntu
[14:37] <sinjax> daftykins, hadn't thought of the java people, i'll get on that
[14:37] <sinjax> but the eclipse channel seems rather quiet
[14:37] <daftykins> yeah, just gotta be patient i guess
[14:38] <evenflowz> hi, very weird problem, one process (nagios agent) runs with uid 4294967295, if i su - nagios and run somehting, it is run as normal (uid/gid 1001).  user min uid is set to 1000 so im not sure how this is happening, anyone seen this before?
[14:40] <linda> Is there a way to remove numbers from names in multiple folders? I know how to rename multiple folders, but I just want to do a find and replace, to remove the numbers in front of the folder name. Hopefully I'm making sense
[14:41] <dr_herbalist> Hello everyone.
[14:41] <visualise> hello doctor
[14:41] <tmmunq> not sure exactly how to do that, but tokenizing the string is probably the way to go
[14:43] <dr_herbalist> I have a question relating to networking and I wonder if anyone here could help.
[14:43] <cfhowlett> !ask|dr_herbalist,
[14:43] <MrS1lentcz> hello, i was solving problem with ¨com¨ domains today. just i have installed ubuntu and i want install skype in first run and what? com domains not download css and some js files, so web page not works and renders correctly. i mean there is internet problem, but i was rebooting to windows 7 now and all works correctly, wtf? i was changed distribution after instroduction unity into it, but i was wanted come back to this distribution from linux mint, but i
[14:44] <dr_herbalist> I want to run a script when my wireless network is up so I placed my shell script into /etc/network/if-up.d/ and edited the interfaces file to include if-up /path to script/ but its not working
[14:44] <dr_herbalist> any ideas why not or anything I am missing?
[14:48] <nathanr> hi, does anyone know why my vpn connection keeps hanging when transferring files (ie. anything over 2mb it seems)
[14:48] <mefistochen> Is it possible to fade out the "has joined" and "has quit" messages in this forum?
[14:48] <Pici> !quietwebchat | mefistochen
[14:49] <MonkeyDu1t> mefistochen  what chat client are you using?
[14:49] <MonkeyDu1t> or irc client, rather
[14:50] <mefistochen> I think the problem was solved already. I use the chat via my Browser: http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=ubuntu
[14:51] <daftykins> it's not a problem it's a configuration preference
[14:51] <mefistochen> Ok. Thanks for the help!
[14:52] <mefistochen> Does anyone have experience in php debugging via IDE? Why is it that much easier in Java?
[14:52] <katycorp> Is there anyone here that uses Cinnamon? Just upgrade to 12.04 and installed Cinnamon 1.8. However it will not change themes. It keeps resetting to the default theme every time I log in
[14:55] <pdimov> hi
[14:55] <irvin> hi
[14:55] <visualise> hihi
[14:55] <pdimov> I want to copy hard disk content to dir in external hdd
[14:56] <pdimov> what is the best way?
[14:56] <HisaoNakai> pdimov: Ctrl+A Ctrl+C Ctrl+V ?
[14:56] <HisaoNakai> pdimov: jokes apart try filezilla maybe. Depends on requirement really.
[14:56] <mefistochen> katycorp: when you login with your username and password you are able to choose the desktop environment. Did you do that?
[14:57] <HisaoNakai> pdimov: also - cp command? :))
[14:57] <bean> rsync > cp
[14:57] <Myrtti> pdimov: depends on what exactly do you you want to copy, dd, cp, rsync are some options
[14:57] <pdimov> i want to copy hdd that is separated on 3 partions
[14:58] <pdimov> 1-bootable with windows, and other with data
[14:58] <pdimov> can I  use dd to copy in folder?
[14:58] <john_john> Hey! How well does Ubuntu or any other linux distro work with Ati, specifically crossfire nowadays? I remember having a lot of troubles with it when I last used Ubuntu. I've stopped gaming and I'm thinking about moving back to Linux
[14:59] <Johnny_Linux> john_john,  i have an asus board w onboard hd330, works excellent
[14:59] <Johnny_Linux> 3300
[14:59] <esing> Hi
[15:00] <john_john> My graphic cards are pretty old though, I have two HD5770 in my rig. Do you think I can manage to get it to work?
[15:00] <esing> Teamviewer isn't starting anymore for me. This is the error: http://dpaste.com/1356873/
[15:00] <Johnny_Linux> if you stick with what it comes with and dont use too new of drivers
[15:01] <Johnny_Linux> john_john,  can you clock your card in bios ?
[15:01] <john_john> But will I be able to utilize them to the max?
[15:01] <Johnny_Linux> i can
[15:01] <john_john> Johnny_Linux: I'm not very experienced on that area D:
[15:01] <Johnny_Linux> youll just have to try it
[15:01] <john_john> Alright
[15:02] <katycorp> mefistochen: yup cinnamon starts fine, but when I go into cinnamon-settings and select a theme, it doesn't take. Neither do edits to the panel. Everything looks like a fresh install every time I log out and log back in
[15:02] <john_john> thanks
[15:02] <Kaapa> hey there
[15:03] <Kaapa> most of my unity-webapps crash firefox (eg: twitter)
[15:03] <dr_herbalist> anyone got any idea about my question?
[15:03] <daftykins> Kaapa: try a clean profile
[15:03] <Kaapa> daftykins: ok
[15:04] <daftykins> dr_herbalist: i don't understand enough about it, but i suspect network manager might prevent your method from working, if you're using it to manage the wireless connection
[15:05] <mefistochen> katycorp: Maybe I am thinking of something else. But I installed ubuntu. And this comes with Unity. Because I didn't like it I installed gnome, too. But when I logged out and logged in again I had still the unity environment. I had to choose the gnome environment when logging in. But the themes which you are talking about are perhaps something else I don't know yet.
[15:05] <dr_herbalist> daftykins, It is possible but this method should work. I read it here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OnNetworkConnectionRunScript And it said network manager works with it.
[15:06] <john_john> I think you have to put gnome as default after installing it
[15:06] <Kaapa> daftykins: also crashes with a new profile
[15:06] <esing> Found the reason for tv not working
[15:06] <Kaapa> starts by opening a new window, then seems to start working, but eventyally crashes
[15:06] <esing> (Because of iptables)
[15:06] <Kaapa> google calendar works, oddly
[15:07] <nathanr> hi, does anyone know why my vpn connection keeps hanging when transferring files (ie. anything over 2mb it seems)
[15:07] <Kaapa> huym.... or not, doesn't work either
[15:07] <Kaapa> it "seemed" to work because I have google calendar as a pinned tab
[15:08] <xiaoqiang> test
[15:09] <BluesKaj> esing, does your tv have networking ? if so that would explain the iptables block , but otherwise why would iptables prevent a graphics interface from connecting .
[15:11] <phyzix2425> hey guys I just got a Nook HD+ and I wanted to connect it to my computer. When I open it, it requires me to download a dmg file to setup the connection. But I can't seem to open the .dmg file with ubuntu. Any help?
[15:12] <daftykins> phyzix2425: .dmg files are Mac disk images
[15:12] <phyzix2425> yes daftykins I am aware.
[15:12] <daftykins> yet you're trying to use it? :)
[15:12] <daftykins> phyzix2425: you may want to look up Linux support for that device
[15:12] <phyzix2425> But I read online that .dmg files can be opened on linux
[15:13] <bean> yes but that does not mean the files they contain will be usable by you.
[15:13] <phyzix2425> As far as I know there is no linux support for that device daftykins
[15:13] <daftykins> right but you think a Mac .dmg is going to have something useful for Linux? no.
[15:13] <phyzix2425> ok
[15:14] <phyzix2425> is there any way to simulate a Mac OS like wine does for windows?
[15:14] <john_john> What is the device?
[15:14] <daftykins> read up.
[15:15] <john_john> sorry
[15:15] <phyzix2425> john_john, it's a nook HD +
[15:16] <reddeath68> I am having issues with my audio modules and infrequent crashing where my audio stutters and my mouse and keyboard become unresponsive I believe it is linked to an error i see at start up about not being able to register pcspkr because it is already registerd
[15:17] <bean> reddeath68: no, that wouldn't be related.
[15:17] <reddeath68> bean: then any ideas?
[15:17] <obbe> Problem: On some boots, after logon the system menu doesn't show the "power off" option, only log out and lock. When this happens there is also no sound - nothing except the dummy device is listed in the output device list in the sound control panel. Ubuntu 13.04, x64, gnome-shell.
[15:18] <obbe> Any ideas?
[15:18] <bean> nope, but reloading a module wouldn't cause that, reddeath68
[15:18] <reddeath68> bean: the friend i told said it seemed to be a audio module problem but he was on a train and unable to help
[15:18] <bean> reddeath68: i'm at work and basically unavailable to help :)
[15:18] <reddeath68> bean: lol ok ill have to see what i can find
[15:24] <kriskropd> does anyone have suggestions for a lightweight media streaming server that supports heavy compressioning? notice the "lightweight" portion: I'm looking for something aside from vlc.1
[15:25] <MonkeyDu1t> kriskropd  i guess that's offtopic here
[15:26] <kriskropd> msg ubotto
[15:28] <nathanr> hi, does anyone know why my vpn connection keeps hanging when transferring files (ie. anything over 2mb it seems)
[15:31] <kutchbhi> http://www.seanswers.com/linux - Try my search utility for Linux please. It searches various stackexchange forums related to linux
[15:34] <MonkeyDu1t> kutchbhi  if i type "what is", it immediately goes to a bunch of "what" questions i don't need
[15:36] <subhadeep> hi
[15:37] <subhadeep> ok...got it.
[15:39] <obbe> How to I check if PolicyKit is running properly?
[15:40] <_kas> I have generated my own key pair to use for email encryption and signing.  Is it best to upload the public key to multiple key servers or just one?  Also, if there is a better channel to ask this in, please let me know.
[15:41] <phyzix2425> how do I get eclipse to recognize my device
[15:41] <phyzix2425> ?
[15:42] <phyzix2425> whoops wrong chat
[15:42] <phyzix2425> sorry
[15:43] <OerHeks> _kas if you trust that key server, you'll be fine
[15:43] <birulangit> night
[15:43] <birulangit> assalamualaikum :)
[15:44] <stevenm> Lo, despite having btrfs-tools installed, I don't seem to be able to resize my btrfs partition in GParted (the Resize option is there but under "Information" there is a warning it can't read inside the filesystem - which is why I guess it can't shrink as it doesn't how small it can get) any ideas?
[15:44] <explodes> Aw man, when I try to upgrade plexmediaserver with apt-get, I get this error: update-rc.d: /etc/init.d/plexmediaserver exists during rc.d purge (use -f to force)
[15:44] <explodes> so I tried this: sudo update-rc.d -f plexmediaserver remove, and then tried the upgrade again
[15:44] <explodes> but I get the same problem
[15:44] <linuxuz3r> ;p
[15:45] <OerHeks> explodes, did you stop the service before purging it?
[15:45] <explodes> This is the full output http://explod.io/paste/9b5200f28a082007121e867ed7a51ac06d7921285359e409c3ae5176160f8851/
[15:46] <explodes> I didn't get an error during the purge
[15:46] <explodes> But, I stopped it and tried again, still exit status of 0
[15:48] <domedagen> Hi! Why aren't Warsow in the standard repositories? What is the policy here. It is free and open source
[15:48] <explodes> K i figured it out i think
[15:48] <explodes> I moved /etc/init.d/plexmediaserver to /etc/init.d/plexmediaserver.bak and tried agian
[15:49] <Ascavasaion> I am running Lubuntu... Is there a mixer I could use that will change base settings for the sound card?  laptop's speakers are really tinny, and a little 'duller' sound would be better.  I tried xfce4-mixer but nothing there.  lspci gives me sound card as a 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation N10/ICH 7 Family High Definition Audio Controller (rev 01)
[15:50] <linuxuz3r> aumux?
[15:50] <psy^> domedagen: Warsow might be released on Steam soon if it gets greenlit
[15:50] <linuxuz3r> Ascavasaion, try aumux
[15:50] <psy^> :D
[15:50] <domedagen> psy^: Why is that? It is supposed to be free.
[15:51] <loadid_czech> Ascavasaion: http://askubuntu.com/questions/72679/is-there-any-sound-enhancers-equalizer
[15:51] <psy^> yes, still free.
[15:51] <psy^> http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=125965803
[15:52] <OerHeks> domedagen, warsow is available tru getdeb >> http://askubuntu.com/questions/301619/how-to-install-warsow
[15:53] <Ascavasaion> thank you guys... Appreciate the pointers.
[15:53] <domedagen> OerHeks: Yes I know, but wouldn't it be better if it could just be in the standard repository?
[15:55] <toil> Hey, I'm trying to update my Ubuntu (10.04 ATM), using sudo do-release-upgrade, but I'm getting 'Fetching the upgrade failed. There may be a network problem.'.. Any idea what I can do to fix it?
[15:56] <daftykins> toil: it may require a different strategy for EOL installs, hang on i think there was a guide
[15:56] <daftykins> !eol
[15:56] <OerHeks> domedagen, then warsow needs to be hosted on ubuntu servers, maybe there is an issue. i don't know.
[15:56] <daftykins> toil: yeah try that last link from ubottu
[15:56] <wiehan> How do I access a samba share via the CLI. I want to run a command line directory comparison tool.
[15:57] <daftykins> wiehan: smbclient will allow a remote browsing
[15:57] <toil> Seems to have worked.
[15:57] <toil> Thanks daftykins.
[15:57] <somsip> wiehan: cheat approach - open it in filemanager and (is it) F4 to open a terminal for that directory?
[15:57] <wiehan> daftykins, the directory is already mounted. I need to know the path basically: e.g. //smb/media
[15:58] <Marlenee> i got error - http://paste.ubuntu.com/6029147/
[15:58] <wiehan> How do I know what the path is to an already mounted samba share
[15:59] <daftykins> wiehan: "df -h" or "mount"
[15:59] <daftykins> wiehan: but how would you not know where you mounted a share? 0o
[15:59] <jhutchins> Marlenee: Disk quota exceeded
[16:00] <wiehan> daftykins, it is easy to access through a file browser like nautilus, but I need to run a terminal command, so I need the exact path
[16:00] <linuxuz3r> whats a good game to download in ubuntu store?
[16:00] <daftykins> wiehan: such graphical share browsers tend not to actually mount the share, they just view it
[16:01] <wiehan> daftykins, How do I mount it then? And msut the SMB client first be disconnected?
[16:01] <somsip> wiehan: you could try looking in ~/.gvfs That's where mine end up auto-mounted
[16:01] <Marlenee> jhutchins : you see  "df -h" on my disk there 16 GB free
[16:01] <daftykins> wiehan: depends if you want it permanently or temporarily mounted
[16:03] <wiehan> daftykins, temporarily
[16:04] <daftykins> wiehan: something like 'sudo mount -t cifs //ip/share /media/share/ -o username=x,password=y'
[16:04] <daftykins> probably need something else to specify that users are allowed permissions on it
[16:05] <Marlenee> any idea i cant install anything plz help
[16:06] <wiehan> daftykins, I get this " wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on //ubuntu-server/Media"
[16:07] <daftykins> wiehan: it then tells you to run 'dmest | tail' to see what the error(s) are doesn't it? :)
[16:08] <wiehan> daftykins, yes it does.. I don't know how that command would look
[16:08] <wiehan> daftykins, in full I mean..
[16:08] <daftykins> google some examples
[16:09] <bean> Marlenee: a quota is not the same as how much free disk you have
[16:09] <bean> is this a VPS? they may have put quotas on there for you...
[16:09] <linuxuz3r> hi
[16:09] <linuxuz3r> how do i disable su -
[16:09] <bean> linuxuz3r: what do you mean
[16:09] <Marlenee> bean : you mean queta for bandwidth
[16:10] <bean> Marlenee: no, i mean disk quota
[16:10] <linuxuz3r> bean can you su - in your machine
[16:10] <linuxuz3r> before i cant even do su -
[16:10] <bean> linuxuz3r: I can sudo su -, but not su -
[16:10] <linuxuz3r> yes
[16:10] <thepeopleschamp> hi
[16:10] <linuxuz3r> i want to disable useraccess to su -
[16:10] <Marlenee> bean : how i know my disk quotas ?
[16:11] <thepeopleschamp> anyone know bout a nice app that i can have music videos in nice application?
[16:11] <Sach> Just did a fresh install of ubuntu 12.04. Trying to enable wireless through 'Additional Drivers', but I get the message: "Please have a look at the log file for details: /var/log/jockey.log"
[16:11] <Marlenee> by : df -h
[16:11] <Marlenee> or what
[16:11] <thepeopleschamp> like plex but just a folder type
[16:11] <bean> Marlenee: the command is "quota"
[16:12] <bean> linuxuz3r: they won't be able to su - unless they have sudo access.
[16:12] <linuxuz3r> [ kilopopo@ubuntu: ~ ]
[16:12] <linuxuz3r>  $ su -
[16:12] <linuxuz3r> Password:
[16:12] <linuxuz3r> root@ubuntu:~#
[16:12] <FloodBot1> linuxuz3r: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:12] <bean> linuxuz3r: then you set a root password, normal ubuntu doesn't have a root password.
[16:13] <bean> !root | linuxuz3r
[16:13] <Marlenee> bean : i perform this command "quota" and its print nothing
[16:13] <linuxuz3r> been yes i set my root password
[16:13] <linuxuz3r> how do i disable it
[16:14] <kelvinella> What is the difference between chrome and chromium?
[16:14] <MonkeyDu1t> kelvinella  https://code.google.com/p/chromium/wiki/ChromiumBrowserVsGoogleChrome
[16:14] <bean> linuxuz3r: "sudo passwd -l root" i believe.
[16:14] <bean> that will disable "su -"
[16:14] <bean> you'll still be able to sudo su -
[16:14] <OerHeks> kelvinella, chrome = chromium + pdf reader + flash + hidden serial number
[16:14] <bean> i think
[16:14] <kelvinella> which one is better?
[16:15] <daftykins> !better
[16:15] <jwtiyar> after i did apt-get dist-upgrade i cant login to unity
[16:15] <kelvinella> I mean which one has better flash support and less problematic
[16:15] <MonkeyDu1t> kelvinella  depends on what you prefer. Chrome is based in Chromium, the latter is open source, Chrome is not
[16:16] <linuxuz3r> bean, is this disabled  $ su -
[16:16] <linuxuz3r> Password:
[16:16] <linuxuz3r> su: Authentication failure
[16:16] <OerHeks> kelvinella, try them both, you can install them side-by-side
[16:16] <SoulRaven> hello
[16:16] <SoulRaven> plase help me
[16:16] <MonkeyDu1t> SoulRaven  start wuith a question
[16:16] <SoulRaven> i don't know if exists, such king of application
[16:16] <linuxuz3r> bean please help
[16:17] <flyn4x4> your pass not roots
[16:17] <Sach> Just did a fresh install of ubuntu 12.04. Trying to enable wireless through 'Additional Drivers', but I get the message: "Please have a look at the log file for details: /var/log/jockey.log"
[16:17] <SoulRaven> but i am search a application, that log's in DB or somthing list of IP's connected from outside, and in the same time check if allready exist an the same IP in a list
[16:17] <SoulRaven> to not be added again
[16:17] <visualise> hi
[16:18] <jwtiyar> after i did apt-get dist-upgrade i cant login to unity
[16:18] <linuxuz3r> bean thanks so much
[16:18] <linuxuz3r> bean
[16:18] <k1l_> SoulRaven: fail2ban
[16:19] <daftykins> Sach: can you pastebin that log file?
[16:19] <SoulRaven> k1l_: thx, but is posibile to filter on a single port or multipe ports?
[16:19] <Marlenee> bean : what i have to do in "quota"
[16:20] <SoulRaven> i want to save the IP's from specific ports
[16:22] <wiehan> I have two directories, I have found great tools like Meld and diff in the command line, to compare files. Unfortunately these files only compare file names, I want to check whether any copy errors happened, thus maybe checking filesizes or md5 checksums on individual files - as there are too many files and they are too large to restart.. the whole process and overwrite..
[16:22] <Kaapa> wiehan: mc
[16:22] <Kaapa> ctrl-x d
[16:22] <wiehan> Kaapa, what is mc?
[16:23] <Kaapa> midnight commander, one of the best apps ever
[16:25] <wiehan> Kaapa, thx
[16:25] <Marlenee> bean : du -sh  ==>  63M     .
[16:25] <Mitchell92> Hi... I'm running a HP Mini 2133, when it is idle for a while, there are all of these lines that go through the screen and are moving, and it is stuck in a loop as regards to that, I move the mouse and tap keys on the keyboard, and it still stays that way.
[16:25] <Mitchell92> Does anyone have any suggestions?
[16:29] <juniour> hi can i use eclipse in ubuntu???
[16:29] <jhutchins> Mitchell92: Can you switch to the console?  (Ctrl-Alt-F1)?
[16:29] <linuxuz3r> juniour, yes
[16:29] <linuxuz3r> hi
[16:29] <juniour> and eclipse support JQuery,javascript,php means all web programing language
[16:29] <juniour> ??
[16:29] <linuxuz3r> how come when i click icons on the desktop gnome 3 it is slow to highlight
[16:30] <Mitchell92> jhattara: Possibly. What would that do?
[16:30] <juniour> linuxuz3r is it nescessary to use a tool for web programming
[16:30] <juniour> ???
[16:30] <Sach> daftykins: http://pastebin.com/UmZczxvT
[16:31] <daftykins> Mitchell92: can you take a pic?
[16:31] <thepeopleschamp> hi
[16:31] <thepeopleschamp> i would like to find a nice way to have my video files managed
[16:31] <daftykins> Sach: no, can you pastebin the contents of /var/log/jockey.log ?
[16:31] <thepeopleschamp> can comeone help me with this?
[16:32] <thepeopleschamp> i know itunes has a beautiful way or sorting video files
[16:32] <thepeopleschamp> has ubuntu an app like this?
[16:32] <Sach> daftykins: how do I find the contents?
[16:32] <jhutchins> thepeopleschamp: I've seen them for audio, but not for video.
[16:33] <daftykins> Sach: open it with a text editor like gedit or similar
[16:33] <jhutchins> thepeopleschamp: VLC might have developed that feature.
[16:33] <Mitchell92> daftykins: No. I think I fixed it, disabled screensaver.
[16:33] <Mitchell92> What is the difference between Chromium and Chrome?
[16:33] <daftykins> this has already come up earlier, are you not the person who asked it before?
[16:34] <Mitchell92> No.
[16:34] <CatKiller> One is open source the other one isn't?
[16:34] <Mitchell92> But will they function the same?
[16:34] <Sach> daftykins: yes, but how do I find the file on my system?
[16:34] <CatKiller> Probably not
[16:34] <CatKiller> otherwise they'd be the same
[16:34] <Mitchell92> I mean as far as plugins.
[16:34] <CatKiller> The question is quite vague
[16:34] <CatKiller> Ah, I don't know then
[16:35] <CatKiller> no idea. I would hope that Google kept some sort of nice API for plugins but that could be wrong
[16:35] <daftykins> Sach: tell you what, open a terminal and type "cat /var/log/jockey.log | pastebinit" you may have to install the program 'pastebinit'
[16:36] <Sach> daftykins: http://pastebin.com/hjpUTUuM
[16:37] <OerHeks> Mitchell92, yes, you can use google chrome appstore in chromium
[16:38] <daftykins> Sach: try "sudo apt-get install bcmwl-kernel-source dkms"
[16:38] <Marlenee> cp: cannot create regular file `/var/lib/dpkg/status': Disk quota exceeded   !!!!
[16:39] <smokingfreak> hi there,i have a question about the terminal
[16:40] <BluesKaj> smokingfreak, as away
[16:40] <BluesKaj> ask
[16:40] <Sach> daftykins: http://pastebin.com/0HFUQWDp
[16:40] <daftykins> Marlenee: yes, you've been sat on that for hours. have you looked up disk quotas yet?
[16:40] <smokingfreak> When i open me terminal how do i show all the spec about me computer whit out using a command?
[16:41] <tabbytabtab> i need help with my wifi card
[16:41] <auronandace> smokingfreak: you can't
[16:41] <smarty> is this a chat?
[16:41] <domedagen> smarty: yes
[16:41] <k1l_> !ot | smarty
[16:41] <auronandace> smarty: this is a support channel for ubuntu
[16:41] <Marlenee> daftykins : du -sh ==> 63M
[16:41] <DJones> smarty: Sort of yes, its a Support channel to help with Ubuntu issues
[16:42] <smokingfreak> i know there is a way to set it on default in your terminal
[16:42] <tabbytabtab> help?
[16:42] <smokingfreak> me i don't know how
[16:42] <wiehan> Kaapa, this mc and gnome-commander are very difficult to use.. I'm not getting it to compare the files within the directories..
[16:42] <daftykins> tabbytabtab: ask in full detail please.
[16:42] <auronandace> smokingfreak: you mean including it in your prompt?
[16:42] <SolarisBoy> smokingfreak: you need to have this stuff in your start scripts
[16:42] <smokingfreak> yeah
[16:42] <daftykins> Sach: can you pastebin the output of "lspci" and "lsusb" ?
[16:42] <SolarisBoy> when you start a new terminal - your start scripts are executed and print out info - like that?
[16:43] <smokingfreak> so if i open my terminal it will be the first thing i see
[16:43] <tabbytabtab> daftykins: When i try to install my wifi driver (in ubuntu 12.04) it says it failed and to look at var/log/jockey
[16:43] <SolarisBoy> smokingfreak: add these things to your start scripts for your shell like .bash_profile or .zsh_profile etc
[16:44] <SolarisBoy> smokingfreak: for instance if you place echo "hostname: $(hostname)" at the end of your shells initialization files you should get that output on terminal when logging in (or opening a new term)
[16:44] <daftykins> tabbytabtab: yeah that's what Sach has right now too. did you look at that log file to see the error at the very end?
[16:44] <Sach> daftykins: http://pastebin.com/XfPj9FWT  and http://pastebin.com/pi7p1523
[16:45] <daftykins> Sach: and this is ubuntu 13.04?
[16:45] <Sach> daftykins: 12.04 lts
[16:45] <daftykins> Sach: sudo apt-get remove --purge bcmwl-kernel-source
[16:46] <daftykins> Sach: then sudo apt-get install linux-firmware-nonfree
[16:46] <wiehan> how does one compare two folders (with slightly different file structures) recursively so that the files that corresponds gets checked by size and say md5 hash to see whether copy errors might have arose
[16:47] <samuell> Is JeOS available in Ubuntu Server 13.04?
[16:47] <Sach> daftykins: http://pastebin.com/d0QznH7Z
[16:47] <tabbytabtab> daftykins: http://pastebin.com/RAkTyvRG
[16:47] <auronandace> samuell: not supported here
[16:47] <DJones> !jeos | samuell
[16:48] <SolarisBoy> wiehan: sounds like you would need to script it out considering the situation of varying file structure otherwise i would say try diff -r
[16:48] <auronandace> samuell: sorry i'm wrong
[16:48] <linuxuz3r> wiehan, try bash
[16:48] <daftykins> tabbytabtab: can you pastebin lspci and lsusb as well please? or just tell me what model wireless adapter you have
[16:48] <DJones> samuell: Actually, that looks an old factoid, the link just goes go normal Ubuntu server info now
[16:48] <samuell> DJones, Yea, that's why I'm a bit confused
[16:48] <Marlenee> daftykins : any idead about quota
[16:49] <Elico> anyone installed xrdp on server??
[16:49] <daftykins> Marlenee: did you look it up?
[16:49] <SolarisBoy> wiehan: maybe some find logic to find each file - check if it is in the other folder - and then if found possibly pass the two files to diff for comparison?
[16:49] <tabbytabtab> daftykins: i have bcw4311
[16:49] <SolarisBoy> or whatever other comparison steps you need etc.
[16:49] <Elico> I want to run gnome-desktop on a server..
[16:49] <daftykins> tabbytabtab: follow the same lines i said to Sach then - "sudo apt-get remove --purge bcmwl-kernel-source" then "sudo apt-get install linux-firmware-nonfree"
[16:50] <SolarisBoy> Marlenee: http://www.yolinux.com/TUTORIALS/LinuxTutorialQuotas.html
[16:50] <meet> hi. need a quick suggestion for a ubuntu based light weight distro. lxde works good but need something better. having a really old pc and please don't suggest me to add hardware and stuff.. not an option. :D thanks.
[16:51] <tabbytabtab> daftykins: ok i did that. now what
[16:51] <DJones> samuell: https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/jeos-and-vmbuilder.html This references 12.04 and Jeos
[16:51] <daftykins> meet: puppy linux, dsl, ?
[16:51] <daftykins> oh ubuntu based, not sure on those ^_^
[16:51] <daftykins> oh, quit.
[16:51] <Sach> daftykins: what else must I do?
[16:51] <daftykins> Sach: reboot after those two
[16:51] <SolarisBoy> maybe you just want to switch window managers meenal
[16:51] <samuell> DJones, Right, thx! Will have a look.
[16:52] <SolarisBoy> awesome window manager is light
[16:52] <tabbytabtab> daftykins: ok im on my ubuntu so brb
[16:52] <meet> hi. need a quick suggestion for a ubuntu based light weight distro. lxde works good but need something better. having a really old pc and please don't suggest me to add hardware and stuff.. not an option. :D thanks.
[16:52] <SolarisBoy> meet: maybe you just want to switch window managers. awesome window manager is light.
[16:52] <meet> *sry if I reposted
[16:53] <auronandace> !mini | meet
[16:53] <smokingfreak> nvm found it
[16:54] <Johnny_Linux> meet, http://www.tecmint.com/linux-lite-1-0-6-review/
[16:54] <Johnny_Linux> ubuntu lite LTS
[16:55] <Sach_> daftykins: rebooted.  What next?
[16:55] <Johnny_Linux> what for pbt
[16:55] <wiehan_> SolarisBoy, All I hear is headaches
[16:55] <Marlenee> daftykins : http://paste.ubuntu.com/6029356/
[16:55] <pbt> john_john: irc client
[16:55] <pbt> Johnny_Linux: irc client
[16:55] <daftykins> Sach_: network manager icon should show wireless now, no?
[16:56] <daftykins> Marlenee: is there a question buried in that highlight? :)
[16:57] <helmut_> hi
[16:58] <Sach_> daftykins: I'm afraid not  :(
[16:58] <meet> SolarisBoy: how do install it?
[16:58] <tabbytabtab> now i have vireless as an option but no networks show up
[16:58] <meet> i mean can i directly remove linux lite's default stuff and install it
[16:58] <tabbytabtab> wireless*
[16:59] <meet> Johnny_Linux: I am currently on linux lite. It works well. But i am curious whether anything lighter is present. because the machine is hardly used only for mail, facebook and some vlc.
[16:59] <daftykins> tabbytabtab / Sach_ : have a look at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1997880
[17:00] <daftykins> meet: we don't support anything other than *exactly* Ubuntu
[17:00] <SolarisBoy> wiehan_: ?
[17:00] <SolarisBoy> meet: it's installed by default afaik
[17:00] <SolarisBoy> your probably interested in disabling or bringing down your disk usage
[17:00] <SolarisBoy> use that link to figure out how  -
[17:00] <meet> daftykins: just curious about other ubuntu based distros..
[17:01] <auronandace> meet: ask in ##linux
[17:01] <meet> auronandace: ok
[17:01] <Johnny_Linux> meenal,  try distrowatch. com
[17:01] <Johnny_Linux> meet
[17:02] <tabbytabtab> daftykins: thats what you just told us to do
[17:04] <meet> Johnny_Linux: ok.. thanks..
[17:04] <Johnny_Linux> np
[17:05] <caf4926> anyone using Bumblebee on 12.04?
[17:05] <Elico> anyone have expirence with installing gnome-desktop on a server??
[17:06] <CatKiller> Elico: I think I've done it once
[17:06] <CatKiller> It was just an apt-get install command
[17:06] <CatKiller> and that was it
[17:06] <CatKiller> took a while
[17:06] <SolarisBoy> yea once here as well - same apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[17:06] <CatKiller> I think that's it actually
[17:08] <tabbytabtab> daftykins: omfg it worked
[17:09] <Sach> daftykins: that worked! thank you!
[17:09] <tabbytabtab> daftkins: thank you so much
[17:09] <Sach> tabbytabtab: daftykins is a genius :-p
[17:09] <OerHeks> !cookie | daftykins
[17:09] <tabbytabtab> Sach: definantly
[17:10] <Sach> daftykins: I see wireless connections, just not yet my own.  It's been 4 mins...I guess I keep waiting?
[17:11] <badass> There is possibly a bug in Samba/Winbind that is preventing the require_membership_of option in Winbind from restricting access to a user that has the "User must change password at next logon" flag on their Active Directory account.
[17:12] <flyn4x4> i couldnt get samba to share with win7
[17:12] <caf4926> *samba works here fine
[17:12] <exaem> Sach: try changing the amount of channels in your router
[17:12] <exaem> on your router settings even
[17:13] <Sach> exaem: how do I do that?
[17:13] <exaem> Sach: do you know how to access your router?
[17:13] <exaem> Sach: it's usually 192.168.1.1 or 192.168.0.1
[17:13] <daftykins> OerHeks: thanks!
[17:13] <daftykins> Sach: what extra did you need to do to get it going?
[17:13] <Sach> daftykins: I just used the two commands from the link you pointed me to
[17:14] <daftykins> Sach: oh right, i thought it didn't work after reboot though?
[17:15] <Sach> daftykins: it didnt work after the first attempt with the command you gave me
[17:15] <web-brandon> juju/pkgs for the latest charm-tools right?
[17:21] <bobapplepie> I changed my password but now I can't chamge it back to what it was before because it says it is too weak.  Help?
[17:25] <RoyK> hm... I have a freshly installed laptop with a process running 100% on one core, called 'update-software'. The system runs 12.04 and is fully updated already - any idea what this thing is doing?
[17:27] <daftykins> RoyK: i'd just kill it
[17:28] <RoyK> daftykins: well, I want to know what it's doing
[17:28] <daftykins> RoyK: re-run it from a terminal maybe
[17:28] <daftykins> i don't know if it has a log file
[17:30] <ui_> RoyK: man update-software
[17:31] <ui_> RoyK: lsof | grep update-software
[17:31] <ui_> this last one will return the open files by that process
[17:33] <antig74> ciao a tutti
[17:33] <ui_> !italiano | antig74
[17:34] <mango_> hi
[17:34] <mango_> I'm having blank screen problems
[17:35] <ChogyDan> !details | mango_
[17:35] <mango_> ubottu: ok!
[17:35] <mango_> ChogyDan: details on they'e way.
[17:36] <ws> hi
[17:37] <ws> i am having issues with my nvidia drivers installation
[17:37] <daftykins> what's happening?
[17:37] <mango_> I have a problem with Ubuntu 12.04 LTS (and Linux Mint), when the laptop (Acer Aspire One D150) automatically boots from disk, I get a blank screen. However when I force the booting process to boot to GRUB, and then manually select the disk to boot from, Ubuntu boots up nicely. I have take a log of X0rg.0.log on both occasions, as I think the problem is the screen. I have tried using nomodeset to no avail.
[17:37] <mango_> Good X0rg.0.log: http://pastelink.me/dl/38ec13, Bad X0rg.0.log: http://pastelink.me/dl/38ec13
[17:38] <ws> its GT 540 M i have downloaded official drivers and installed it. but the screen resolution is way worse
[17:38] <Dr_willis> mango_,  mint has its own support channels and forums. its not ubuntu.
[17:38] <Dr_willis> !mint
[17:38] <Siecje> I'm using ubuntu 13.04 and I created a user but it was not sudo so I removed it and then tried again with sudo but now it says user does not exist
[17:38] <ChogyDan> Dr_willis: I think he means both 12.04 and mint
[17:38] <DJones> Dr_willis: They are also using Ubuntu 12.04
[17:39] <daftykins> ^
[17:39] <mango_> Dr_willis: I am using Ubuntu right now, and I will stick to it, if I have a solution. I only mentioned Linux Mint because I just suffered the same problem in previous installs.
[17:39] <daftykins> can't send 'em away when they say both :(
[17:39] <Dr_willis> they really shouldent have mentioned mint if hes on ubuntu. :)
[17:39] <Dr_willis> and its not clear what 'force the booting process to boot to grub' means..
[17:40] <ChogyDan> mango_: both your pastes are the same
[17:40] <flyn4x4> he has a bootable cd in the drive or usb
[17:40] <mango_> 'force the booting process to boot to grub' - means, when I switch the laptop on, I hold down the 'shift' button
[17:40] <mango_> ChogyDan: ok let me check.
[17:40] <osse> I have changed some files in /etc. How can I see how a file from a certain package looks by default?
[17:41] <ChogyDan> mango_: no need to check, you put the same link twice
[17:41] <Dr_willis> mango_,  making grub appear.. really dosent do anything differntly then having grub hidden. Unless you  got 2 grubs on the hard drives You can  select the option in /etc/default/grub to make grub NOT auto-hide so there will be no need to hold shift.
[17:42] <Dr_willis> mango_,  so this Laptop ONLY has ubuntu on it right now? or both Mint and Ubuntu?
[17:43] <mango_> Dr_willis: only Ubuntu 12.04LTS
[17:43] <Siecje> I am trying to create a user with adduser but the terminal says user does not exist
[17:43] <Dr_willis> Siebjee,  whats the exact command you are using?
[17:43] <c3l> Does anyone know if there's a way to get functionality similar to that of nohup, but not putting the process in my "jobs" list? Ultimately I want a sccript "detatch" that I can use as: "detatch <command>" that runs <command> standalone, not in the shell. so that I can exit the terminal, not see any output of it, and not put it in my jobs list
[17:44] <mango_> Dr_willis: I did a clean install, I can't imagine having two grubs
[17:44] <ChogyDan> mango_: when you do the custom grub thing, which option are you choosing?
[17:44] <Siecje> sudo adduser name sudo
[17:44] <Dr_willis> mango_,  ive seen it happen if you have more then 1 hd.. or somehow got grub on the USB, or flash drives.
[17:44] <Dr_willis> Siebjee,  its 'sudo adduser username'
[17:45] <Dr_willis> and you want to make a user named sudo?
[17:45] <mango_> ChogyDan: I just choose the top option, the other options are recovery and the memtest stuff
[17:45] <ChogyDan> c3l: try, & disown
[17:45] <chop> Siecje: isnt it useradd instead of adduser?
[17:46] <Dr_willis> mango_,  id start by making grub Unhidden by default.  the top option in the grub menu should be the default and whats selected when it auto starts up.
[17:46] <Dr_willis> Siecje,  useradd has very differnt syntax then adduser
[17:46] <mango_> Dr_willis: I will check.
[17:47] <mango_> Dr_willis: which variable is it?
[17:47] <mango_> GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT_QUIET?
[17:47] <Dr_willis> should be right near the top of /etc/default/grub  some timeout.. id have to refer to the grub wiki.
[17:48] <Dr_willis> !grub
[17:48] <mango_> Dr_willis: GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT_QUIET? is currently set to true
[17:50] <mango_> Dr_willis: GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT_QUIET? is now set to false and I'm doing a restart
[17:50] <Dr_willis> you did rerun sudo update-grub ?
[17:50] <mango_> oops forgot that
[17:50] <thepeopleschamp> can someone help me with this easy thing?
[17:50] <mango_> one moment
[17:50] <c3l> ChogyDan, Still puts it in my jobs list
[17:51] <thepeopleschamp> is there a nice app out there where i can have my video files nicely shown?
[17:51] <Dr_willis> !ask | thepeopleschamp
[17:51] <Dr_willis> thepeopleschamp,  clarify what you mean.
[17:51] <ChogyDan> c3l: what is the jobs list?
[17:51] <thepeopleschamp> like itunes has albums nice shown
[17:51] <thepeopleschamp> i need an app that has my videos in ubuntu
[17:52] <Dr_willis> thepeopleschamp,  xbmc  can work as a nice media center
[17:52] <thepeopleschamp> too much off a memory user
[17:52] <thepeopleschamp> is there a more smaller app like itunes?
[17:52] <Dr_willis> itunes small? ;)
[17:53] <miguel123> hello guys, I use xfce. Somehow I broke the video dvds autoplay function and I can't figure out why and how to fix it. Audio cds autoplay fine, but video dvds autoplay (thunar-volman) doesn't trigger any binary I point it to
[17:54] <CyL> Okay, running a program in terminal with ./binname in 12.04.2 yelds a bash error 'command not found' even if I'm in the directory the file is, it is owned by me and has proper permissions. Any clue on what might be going on?
[17:54] <c3l> ChogyDan, some bash-specific thing I think. A list of background processes
[17:54] <Dr_willis> CyL,  look at the first line of the file. if its a bash script. it may be incorrect. its also possible its a currupted binary
[17:54] <mango_> Dr_willis: Well well, I'm getting Ubuntu toboot
[17:55] <mango_> Dr_willis: what could that variable be doing to prevent a boot up
[17:55] <CyL> Dr_willis: It'sa an executable, let me check md5
[17:55] <ChogyDan> c3l: well, I think the disown should work.  But it isn't working for me on a gui program... so I dunno
[17:55] <MonkeyDu1t> thepeopleschamp  try this, plenty similar tutorials to be found http://www.ubuntuka.com/itunes-ubuntu-linux/
[17:55] <Dr_willis> mango_,  nothing as far as i know - hidden or not. it shouldent matter. Unless its the display MODE that grub is using thats confuseing things.
[17:56] <ChogyDan> c3l: what is the command you are running?
[17:56] <CyL> Dr_willis: Although I think that even if it is correct, bash should find it
[17:56] <c3l> ChogyDan: disown also puts it in my jobs list. I think I need to talk to bash folks for the jobs-list related part of the question
[17:56] <Dev_Antar> hi
[17:56] <c3l> ChogyDan, no command in particular: any command that starts any kind of process is my target
[17:57] <CyL> Dr_willis: Anyway, MD5 sums says the files is intact
[17:57] <c3l> ChogyDan, anything that could have been started from the graphical system application menu
[17:57] <DoYouKnow> how do I adjust wifi parameters in ubuntu? for example, the various timeouts in 802.11?
[17:57] <c3l> like firefox
[17:57] <Dr_willis> CyL,  only time ive seen that issue is when. its not executable. the #! line is wrong. its currupted. or its a 64bit binary on a 32bit system
[17:57] <Dev_Antar> my CPU usage approach the 100 % while using flash player ?
[17:57] <ChogyDan> c3l: yeah, this is a bash question.  But last comment: try this: `command` & disown
[17:58] <CyL> Dr_willis: None of the above are true for me :/
[17:58] <Dr_willis> CyL,  what does 'file thefilename' say about it?
[17:58] <Marlenee> deb conf - http://paste.ubuntu.com/6029587/
[17:58] <CyL> Dr_willis: ./adb: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.8, not stripped
[17:59] <kelvinella> do you guys use chrome instead of chromium?
[17:59] <Dr_willis> kelvinella,  ive used them both.. cant say ive really noticed much differance. ;)
[17:59] <ChogyDan> kelvinella: I do, simply because there was a time that the ubuntu community was not keeping chromium up to date
[18:00] <Dev_Antar> any idea ..
[18:00] <kelvinella> Dr_willis, because firefox and chromium here giving me trouble once a while
[18:00] <Dev_Antar> Dr_wilis
[18:00] <ChogyDan> Marlenee: what happened to get you in that state?
[18:00] <kelvinella> both firefox or chromium will make xubuntu here unusable
[18:00] <Dev_Antar> Dr_willis ...
[18:00] <kelvinella> using 99% CPU time
[18:00] <Dr_willis> kelvinella,  i tend to keep all 3 installed.. dependong on what im doing. ;)
[18:01] <Dr_willis> kelvinella,  sure its not flash doing that? Google-chrome does have its own flash
[18:01] <kelvinella> maybe flash i donno how to fix so i just use chrome now
[18:01] <Sach> daftykins: bad news.  I'm still not able to see my wireless connection  :(
[18:01] <kelvinella> even after i close firefox down the computer is slow and forces me to reboot
[18:02] <kelvinella> like 1 fps
[18:02] <daftykins> Sach: did you try changing wireless channel on your router like someone suggested?
[18:02] <ChogyDan> kelvinella: gnome-system-monitor     see what it is
[18:02] <Dev_Antar> so what is the solution to the flash overheating ................ ?
[18:02] <karab44> Hello!
[18:03] <karab44> I need serious help.
[18:03] <karab44> My RAID0 disks somehow are not RAID anymore... after I tried to mount them under ubuntu
[18:03] <karab44> ubuntu server 12.04LTS
[18:03] <kelvinella> ChogyDan, once it is slow i almost cant even open terminal
[18:03] <wilee-nilee> Dev_Antar, Never heard of this, don't call people randomly.
[18:03] <mango_> Dr_willis: thanks, seems to be good, any tweaks I can do for netbooks?
[18:04] <kelvinella> i dont wanna reproduce it
[18:04] <Dev_Antar> weille_nelie .... what
[18:04] <ChogyDan> kelvinella: might be a memory or harddrive issue
[18:04] <karab44> how to connect them again together?
[18:05] <Dev_Antar> wilee_nilee ?
[18:05] <kelvinella> ChogyDan, but everything's fine after reboot
[18:05] <owen__> Hello all -- Having problems with an Ubuntu 12.04LTS migration from OpenVZ to a local device. The kernel which was imported was 'linux-kernel-3.2.2.0-........' Basically when I try to run 'iptables -L' I get ... 'FATAL v1.4.12: can't initialize iptabes 'filter' : Table does not exist (do you need to insmod)?'  ........ So I installed kernel 3.4..... instead and removed the original kernel that was copied from the OpenVZ container , now ipta
[18:05] <wilee-nilee> Dev_Antar, question marks mean nothing by themselves, if you want help give details.
[18:05] <kelvinella> ChogyDan, I will try sticking to chrome and see if i will run into the same problem for now
[18:05] <dunn1> install gentoo
[18:06] <Dev_Antar> wilee_nilee if you know the the solution try to answer if no , dont tell me how to ask ?
[18:07] <wilee-nilee> !attitude | dev
[18:07] <bazhang> !details | Dev_Antar
[18:07] <wilee-nilee> !attitude | Dev_Antar settle doen there are rules here
[18:07] <bazhang> Dev_Antar, give the *exact* details
[18:08] <Sach> daftykins: yes, didnt help  :(   I can still see other networks, just nt mine  :(
[18:09] <Dev_Antar> bazhang why the cpu usage is 100% while using flash , the video become freezing ......
[18:10] <bazhang> Dev_Antar, install flashblock. launch them individually, try to use the download-helper extension and play in mplayer and see if you get the same results
[18:10] <owen__> Does anyone know how to enable iptables module for the kernel at boot time?
[18:12] <ChogyDan> Dev_Antar: I agree with bazhang, flashblock is a lifesaver.  Flashblock is for firefox.  On chrome, I think it is just a setting, Settings > content > Plugins > click to play
[18:12] <karab44> I used mdm tool to recreate RAID0 array and now disk is parted to two devices and does not work! What to do?
[18:14] <Dr_willis> Dev_Antar,  adobe really dosent care about flash on linux, so flash on linux often has issues.   Google-chrome has its own implemation of flash that may work better.
[18:14] <wilee-nilee> karab44, What OS are you running?
[18:14] <daftykins> Sach: that's quite weird. is it a 2.4/5GHz issue maybe?
[18:14] <karab44> 1204 LTS
[18:14] <Dr_willis> theres no magical quick fix's to get flash working perfectly on linux.
[18:15] <karab44> I just wanted to mount another partition, made of RAID0
[18:15] <karab44> and of course on Linux nothing can be done easly
[18:15] <Dr_willis> !fud
[18:16] <MonkeyDu1t> karab44  please don't start
[18:16] <karab44> haha
[18:16] <Dr_willis> given the disasters ive had on windows... really really dont want to start that  discussion. ;)
[18:16] <karab44> Do you have this bot command on every occasion? :D
[18:16] <MonkeyDu1t> karab44  or do you mean linux cannot be hacked easily
[18:17] <karab44> MonkeyDu1t: It's not easy to steal jumbojet
[18:17] <ChogyDan> karab44: you may have better luck posting on the forums, or askubuntu
[18:18] <karab44> I think it's over. RAID0 array has been removed
[18:18] <RoyK> karab44: to mount a raid, simply assemble it, it should be done automatically, then check /proc/mdstat
[18:18] <RoyK> karab44: try mdadm --assemble --scan
[18:18] <karab44> haha funny, I did that
[18:18] <RoyK> raid0 isn't very good in terms of safety, though
[18:18] <karab44> and now 1TB data is permanently gone
[18:19] <karab44> there is no RAID0 array anymore
[18:19] <RoyK> karab44: did you overwrite the disks or something?
[18:19] <h4xx> hello! :)
[18:19] <karab44> no, but driver sees it as 2 separate disks
[18:20] <RoyK> well, it's two separate disks
[18:20] <RoyK> karab44: have you read https://raid.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/RAID_Recovery ?
[18:20] <Siecje> Dr_willis: what command should I use to create a new user with sudo permission?
[18:20] <karab44> RoyK: I havn't read anything. I just panic here
[18:21] <Jacta___> how do I save the current ip from eth0 to use in a script
[18:21] <Jacta___> is that easy?
[18:21] <RoyK> karab44: don't panic :)
[18:21] <karab44> I use Hirens Boot CD but there's dozens of tools that you don't know how works
[18:22] <karab44> They should make just one
[18:22] <ChogyDan> Jacta___: I'm sure you could craft a regex for it from ifconfig
[18:22] <Dr_willis> Jacta___,  pipe ifconfig output through grep or awk would be one way to get just the number
[18:22] <Dr_willis> Siecje,  they need tobe a member of the admin group i belive.  I rarely need more then one user with sudo rights
[18:22] <h4xx> try this Scieje
[18:22] <h4xx> sudo useradd -m username
[18:22] <h4xx> sudo passwd username
[18:23] <h4xx> Siecje. sry
[18:23] <Dr_willis> useradd  can take a lot of other options i belive if you want a home director and other stuff made
[18:23] <RoyK> Jacta___: something like ifconfig eth0 | perl -ne 'print "$1" if (/inet addr:([0-9\.]+)/)'
[18:24] <RoyK> Jacta___: as in MYIP=`ifconfig eth0 | perl -ne 'print "$1" if (/inet addr:([0-9\.]+)/)'`
[18:24] <zangaroo> how long does it take for a package to go from Build to the official repositories. For example, https://launchpad.net/~cmiller/+archive/chromium-browser-stable-daily/+build/4906532, this package ?
[18:25] <Dr_willis> zangaroo,  ubuntu normally dosent move new (or updated) packages into the repos - once a release has been done. theres some exceptions
[18:25] <Dr_willis> !latest
[18:25] <ChogyDan> zangaroo: there is no automated process.  That is just someone's workspace, so it will happen when they are done working on it, in theory
[18:26] <Dr_willis> zangaroo,  if you want the latest - theres PPA's for stuff.  then some things May get into the backports repos.
[18:26] <duoi> Hi all. Does anybody recommend disabling the swapfile for a full install on a USB? For some reason it's running extremely slow; even slower than a persistent Live copy, with ridiculous hang times.
[18:26] <zangaroo> latest is pretty important if there are security updates
[18:26] <wilee-nilee> duoi, YOu can set the swappiness.
[18:26] <Dr_willis> duoi,  ive had no issues with a swap partion on a usb hd. You CAN however put a swap partion (or file) on an internal hd and set the usb hd to use it.
[18:26] <_2cool4me4_> I just got GNOME 3 and really like it, but for some reason the Chromium title bar and tab bar are separate. Is there a way to change this?
[18:26] <RoyK> duoi: no reason to disable swap - just set vm.swappiness=0 so that linux won't swap unless it has to
[18:26] <RoyK> sysctl vm.swappiness=0
[18:27] <RoyK> duoi: for this to work after a reboot, add it to /etc/sysctl.conf
[18:27] <ChogyDan> RoyK: will that level of swappiness actually work?  I've had trouble with 10
[18:27] <kashif_islam> Guys how can i download webinar video from this website ? http://www.10gen.com/presentations/webinar-mongodb-and-hadoop-essential-tools-your-big-data-playbook
[18:27] <duoi> Thanks everyone, i'll do that now.
[18:28] <Siecje> ty so much h4xx
[18:28] <RoyK> ChogyDan: ChogyDan I think the raspberry pi uses 1 by default, or was that 0 ...
[18:28] <ChogyDan> go figure
[18:29] <karab44> ok guys, now different task. I want to format USB drive with two partitions. Possible on desktop ubuntu?
[18:29] <_2cool4me4_> gparted
[18:29] <karab44> cool
[18:29] <karab44> :)
[18:29] <karab44> known reason, I make rescue drive
[18:29] <Dr_willis> karab44,  gparted makes it trivial
[18:30] <karab44> I remeber, last time I used gparted to recover broken windows
[18:30] <Dr_willis> just be sure the usb is unmounted befor you try to repartion it. (may best to unmount it via the command line, or let gparted unmount it)
[18:30] <karab44> Dr_willis: Good point
[18:30] <wilee-nilee> kashif_islam, FF add on downloadhelper will do it.
[18:31] <zangaroo> Dr_willis, can i use the source package to build the same binary in the ppa ?
[18:31] <Siecje> h4xx: how do I add that new user to sudoers
[18:32] <ChogyDan> zangaroo: google-chrome might be uptodate
[18:32] <Dr_willis> zangaroo,  you could i imagine, but  i dont see why.
[18:32] <zangaroo> because it tracks you
[18:32] <zangaroo> and chromium doesn't
[18:32] <h4xx> hi! i'm new to ubuntu. I set a program to full screen. how to i resize it?
[18:33] <ChogyDan> zangaroo: is that really true?  not that chrome tracks you, but that chromium is better
[18:33] <karab44> hehe one day I'll start to answer more than ask questions... :)
[18:33] <zangaroo> ChogyDan, it's exactly the same
[18:33] <Dr_willis> zangaroo,  paranoid much?
[18:33] <MonkeyDu1t> h4xx  F11 to leave full screen, then drag the edges to resize
[18:33] <Dr_willis> ;)
[18:33] <auronandace> ChogyDan: chrome has closed source bits in it, chromium doesn't
[18:33] <zangaroo> Dr_willis, better be safe than sorry
[18:33] <wilee-nilee> h4xx, pull it down with the cursor or hit the buttons in the header, did you hit f12?
[18:33] <h4xx> okay ty
[18:33] <Dresk|Laptop> I'm kind of looking to streamlined Ubuntu installation, in the sense that I just want to add openssh-server to the package list when installing - I realize it's probably not on the installation medium, but is there a way I can add it to mine so it gets installed?
[18:33] <Dr_willis> zangaroo,  better to not waste hours for no real gain.
[18:34] <Dr_willis> and google-chrome's main benifit these days is the flash its using. but i have both installed.
[18:34] <zangaroo> if i learn it once, i can have the computer do it
[18:34] <bazhang> !mini | Dresk|Laptop
[18:34] <_2cool4me4_> Dresk|Laptop, you could start with a minimal install and build up from there
[18:34] <fak3r> zangaroo: agree, chrome vs chromium, but firefox is still the best, open ness wise
[18:34] <_2cool4me4_> I was too late.
[18:34] <h4xx> got it. thanks again!
[18:34] <zangaroo> Dr_willis, Chromium plays nice with google's flash
[18:35] <Dresk|Laptop> bazhang / ubottu / _2cool4me4_ : Is there a listing of the default packages that Ubuntu comes with anywhere for reference?
[18:35] <Dr_willis> so use what you want then? ive missed the point of the question/discussion
[18:36] <zangaroo> Dr_willis, can i use the source package to build the same binary in the ppa ?
[18:36] <MonkeyDu1t> zangaroo  better ask in #ubuntu-app-devel
[18:36] <zangaroo> okay
[18:37] <wesley_> Anybody know how to fix this http://i39.tinypic.com/3026uc3.png
[18:38] <wesley_> I just switched back to Ubuntu after months of debian
[18:38] <tmmunq> *thumbs up*
[18:38] <wesley_> I installed with the latest version of 12.04 64bit
[18:38] <ChogyDan> wesley_: is it that you just dont like the new gui?
[18:38] <RoyK> wesley_: fix what?
[18:38] <MonkeyDu1t> wesley_  i see perfectly healthy dash screen,
[18:38] <wesley_> Oh that is how it looks now?
[18:38] <MonkeyDu1t> wesley_  welcome to the future
[18:38] <Dr_willis> !manual | wesley_
[18:39] <wesley_> last time I used it the unity dash extended the whole length of the screen
[18:39] <wesley_> I thought that was weird
[18:39] <_2cool4me4_> Dresk|Laptop, there's a list of all packages available, but I haven't found one for a default install: http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[18:39] <Kev1> hi, how can i update menus on elementary desktop?
[18:39] <Dr_willis> may as well have the dash fill the whole screen. :) not like you can do much untill it closes.
[18:39] <Dev_Antar> Dr_willis
[18:40] <wesley_> How do I do that though?
[18:40] <Dr_willis> Kev1,  ask in the elementary os  support chat/forums.. and i think theres some tweak tools mentioned on their forums.
[18:40] <Kev1> is it on free node Dr_willis ?
[18:40] <_2cool4me4_> I'll ask my first question again.
[18:40] <wesley_> so just to be clear this is the new unity
[18:40] <ChogyDan> Dev_Antar: just post your questions, if someone knows the answer, they will answer
[18:40] <wesley_> ?
[18:40] <Dresk|Laptop> _2cool4me4_: I greatly appreciate your assistance, I figured I'd pick your brain on something if you have knowledge on it, though it's off Ubuntu topic - would you mind?
[18:40] <Dr_willis> Kev1,  no idea. check their homepage.
[18:40] <_2cool4me4_> I just got GNOME 3 and really like it, but for some reason the Chromium title bar and tab bar are separate. Is there a way to change this?
[18:40] <Kev1> thank you
[18:40] <_2cool4me4_> Dresk|Laptop, if it's off topic, do it in a PM
[18:41] <Dr_willis> _2cool4me4_,  check the various gnome-shell plugins perhaps? you may want to post a screenshot of what you mean.
[18:41] <MonkeyDu1t> wesley_  yes, this is unity you're seeing, now you can get familiar with it, like we all did
[18:41] <wesley_> okay then
[18:41] <Dr_willis> chromium has that feature where it dosent use the system decoration i thought
[18:41] <wesley_> I actually like unity better than gnome at this point
[18:41] <Dev_Antar> My FlashPlayer is freezes with 100% CPU
[18:41] <wesley_> thank you all
[18:41] <tmmunq> yes.... we all got used to it... didnt install anything else...
[18:42] <Dresk|Laptop> Dev_Antar: A lot of times that can be solved by disabling Flash Hardware Acceleration - it just doesn't work in LInux
[18:42] <Dr_willis> Dev_Antar,  try  google-chrome and its flash - would be a good idea.
[18:42] <Dr_willis> Hardware acceleration on = I got Purple people in youtube videos. ;)
[18:42] <Dev_Antar> Dr_willis what should i do
[18:43] <_2cool4me4_> Okay, here's a screenshot: http://tinypic.com/r/25tumue/5
[18:43] <Dr_willis> Dev_Antar,  try  google-chrome and its flash - would be a good idea.  <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
[18:43] <Dev_Antar> Dr_willis to activate the integrated flash
[18:43] <Dev_Antar> i think i am using the normal flash
[18:43] <Dr_willis> google-chrome uses its flash by default last i looked.
[18:43] <Dr_willis> you can even set up the other browsers to use googles flash variant
[18:43] <_2cool4me4_> Chrome's title bar and tabs bar are the same. On 10.04 with Gnome or on Windows, they are the same.
[18:43] <Nach0z> chrome uses its builtin crap flash unless you tell it otherwise
[18:44] <Dev_Antar> ooooh so its the same problem there Dr_willis
[18:44] <Dr_willis> Dev_Antar,  you are using google-chrome then?
[18:44] <Dev_Antar> Dr_willis Chrome is my favourit
[18:44] <aFeijo> Hey guys! I have a very weird request by a user... where is HIS OWN site hosted? lol. What tools can I use to investigate it?
[18:44] <Dr_willis> Dev_Antar,    check askubuntu.com for other potential flash tweaks also perhaps.
[18:45] <Dev_Antar> ok Dr_willis
[18:46]  * Dr_willis tends to disable flash
[18:46] <_2cool4me4_> aFeijo, Try localhost
[18:46] <aFeijo> _2cool4me4_, what?
[18:46] <_2cool4me4_> aFeijo, is he on the same computer that the site is hosted on?
[18:46] <Felishia> I formatted my USB stick with gparted on ubuntu 13.04 and it doesn't want to work anymore
[18:46] <smokingfreak> instal LAPM for Ubuntu
[18:46] <aFeijo> _2cool4me4_, his site is online
[18:47] <Felishia> it asks me "open with"...
[18:47] <_2cool4me4_> aFeijo, ignore me then
[18:47] <aFeijo> ok
[18:47] <MonkeyDu1t> aFeijo  whois [domain name]
[18:47] <smokingfreak> i had the same problem
[18:47] <Dr_willis> Felishia,  what asks open with?   give the channel details of what you are doing exactly. and what filesstem you put on the USB stick
[18:47] <smokingfreak> there is a pop up box that asked you how you want to open it right!?
[18:48] <_2cool4me4_> You want to open it with nautilus, don't you?
[18:48] <Dr_willis> you can also try mounting it by hand first to see if it works that way
[18:48] <Felishia> when I format to Fat32 it says "open with" as if it were a file when it's mounted
[18:48] <aFeijo> MonkeyDu1t, thanks, the registrar is godaddy
[18:48] <smokingfreak> no he wants to extract it in his browser
[18:48] <Felishia> when I format to ext4 it says unknown error when saving files
[18:48] <Felishia> 3 minutes ago it worked perfectly
[18:48] <Dr_willis> Felishia,  you are delete/remakeing the partions? not just formating them?
[18:48] <Dr_willis> and setting the proper partion type?
[18:49] <Felishia> Dr_willis, yes
[18:49] <Dr_willis> try to mount it by hand. look for errors.
[18:49] <smokingfreak> D_willis, Dit you check you path
[18:49] <smokingfreak> ?
[18:50] <RoyK> Dr_willis: IIRC partition types aren't too relevant anymore - linux will look at the content of the partition regardless of its type
[18:50] <Felishia> Dr_willis it says error that the device is busy or already mounted
[18:50] <Felishia> it's not even looking at it
[18:50] <Felishia> it just says error
[18:50] <RoyK> Felishia: and it's not mounted?
[18:50] <Felishia> no...
[18:50] <Felishia> it says it's mounted but it isn't
[18:51] <RoyK> Felishia: what sort of device is this?
[18:51] <Felishia> No object for D-Bus interface now
[18:51] <Felishia> the hell?
[18:51] <Felishia> it's an average USB stick that worked 5 mins ago
[18:52] <ChogyDan> Felishia: maybe dbus is crashing.  If so, I suggest rebooting
[18:52] <ChogyDan> just my experience
[18:52] <Felishia> then it says open file with....
[18:52] <Felishia> like if my usb stick were a file
[18:53] <RoyK> Felishia: does sfdisk/fdisk/something list partitions on the device?
[18:53] <Felishia> yes it does list the partition as FAT32
[18:53] <Felishia> /dev/sdb is Fat32
[18:53] <RoyK> that's usually the partition/filesystem type on a memory stick
[18:54] <Felishia> I formatted it 10 times now
[18:54] <RoyK> Felishia: can you pastebin the output of 'mount', please?
[18:54] <RoyK> Felishia: with what filesystem?
[18:54] <Felishia> mount: /dev/sdb already mounted or /mnt busy
[18:55] <Felishia> RoyK Fat32 and Ext4
[18:55] <RoyK> Felishia: can you pastebin the output of 'mount', please?
[18:55] <Felishia> that is the only ouput!
[18:56] <Felishia> the line: mount: /dev/sdb already mounted or /mnt busy
[18:56] <_2cool4me4_> These join/leave messages are getting annoying. Must disable them...
[18:56] <RoyK> Felishia: no, only 'mount', please
[18:57] <Felishia> oh shit...
[18:57] <RoyK> :)
[18:57] <Felishia> my hard drive is doing the same
[18:57] <Felishia> I can't even save files to my hard drive
[18:57] <RoyK> Felishia: doing what?
[18:57] <RoyK> pastebin output of dmesg
[18:57] <Felishia> it's not recognizing itself
[18:57] <Felishia> RoyK should I add a tail option?
[18:58] <RoyK> just pastebin the lot
[18:58] <Felishia> or like a grep sdb... something
[18:58] <Felishia> ok
[18:58] <RoyK> along with mount output
[18:58] <RoyK> !pastebin | Felishia
[18:59] <marco__> hi
[18:59] <marco__> is any human here?
[18:59] <RoyK>  
[18:59] <_2cool4me4_> Yes
[19:00] <marco__> great
[19:00] <RoyK> !ask | marco__
[19:00] <bkuberek> depends what you mean by humnas
[19:00] <Felishia> http://pastebin.com/zmsM9ReR
[19:00] <marco__> i'm triyng to install clang using sudo apt-get install clang, but it says it's not in my repositories
[19:00] <marco__> that just doesnt make sense
[19:00] <Felishia> this is ridiculous my hard drive and most my devices are working now
[19:01] <Felishia> let see what happened with the USB stick
[19:01] <wilee-nilee> !clang
[19:01] <RoyK> Felishia: don't see any errors there
[19:01] <wilee-nilee> !find clang
[19:01] <Felishia> RoyK I don't
[19:01] <RoyK> Felishia: can you write to your root fs?
[19:01] <RoyK> Felishia: touch asdf
[19:01] <marco__> i know clang is supposed to be in my repos, but its not. what can i do?
[19:01] <Felishia> RoyK now I can...
[19:02] <Felishia> after I closed a webpage :s
[19:02] <Ev0> i thoght the linux kernel was coded in UNIX :(
[19:02] <Felishia> may it be the webpage?
[19:02] <RoyK> Felishia: huh?
[19:02] <ChogyDan> marco__: are your repos correct?
[19:02] <Ev0> the kernel is the source code right?
[19:02] <Felishia> that the webpage caused the computer to crash?
[19:02] <vanishing> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6029789/
[19:02] <RoyK> Felishia: a webpage definetely don't make your filesystem remount as read-only
[19:02] <vanishing> anyone know what this is about?
[19:02] <ChogyDan> Felishia: maybe check your diskspace, make sure you aren't running out
[19:02] <trism> marco__: do you have universe enabled? have you run: apt-get update; yet?
[19:03] <marco__> ChogyDan: i dont know, how can i check? i've updated it and it doesnt help
[19:03] <Felishia> I have 40GB of space
[19:03] <wilee-nilee> marco__, You have the development repo open?
[19:03] <RoyK> Felishia: can you pastebin the output of just 'mount', please?
[19:04] <marco__> trism: i dont know about universe. i did indeed run apt-get update
[19:04] <ChogyDan> marco__: maybe pastebin the output of apt-get update
[19:04] <Ev0> hellooo
[19:04] <Felishia> RoyK I did... it's just that line
[19:04] <Felishia> see this
[19:04] <marco__> wilee-nilee: i dont think so, im new to ubuntu and i havent played with that kind of settings
[19:04] <bazhang> Ev0, any actual ubuntu support questions?
[19:04] <Ev0> well this is for ubuntu too
[19:04] <Felishia> http://pastebin.com/fe7ynPyb
[19:05] <RoyK> Felishia: it should be several lines, several metafilsystems should be mounted
[19:05] <bazhang> Ev0, what is
[19:05] <Ev0> what is the ubuntu source code coded in
[19:05] <Ev0> i thought it was unix
[19:05] <bazhang> Ev0, did you have an actual support issue?
[19:05] <Ev0> is the kernel the same thing as the source code
[19:05] <RoyK> Felishia: just type 'mount' and pastebin the output
[19:05] <Felishia> oh oh
[19:05] <Felishia> :p sorry
[19:05] <ChogyDan> !manual | Ev0
[19:06] <vanishing> I might have messed up my dbus...
[19:06] <wilee-nilee> marco__, ubuntu software center-edit software sources make sure the 3rd party independent is ticked, might be the backports not sure really
[19:06] <vanishing> does anyone have experience with it?
[19:06] <Felishia> http://pastebin.com/jWZfnxUt
[19:06] <bazhang> Ev0, these are NOT support issues
[19:06] <Ev0> ohhh!
[19:07] <RoyK> Felishia: /dev/sdb1 on /media/onza/Xubuntu
[19:07] <RoyK> Felishia: it's mounted
[19:07] <marco__> here's a pastebin of apt-get update
[19:07] <marco__> http://pastebin.com/nDy5FT1T
[19:07] <marco__> (its in spanish)
[19:08] <Felishia> RoyK but I umount it
[19:08] <RoyK> try again
[19:08] <RoyK> umount /dev/sdb1
[19:08] <marco__> ChogyDan: i've pastebin-ed it: http://pastebin.com/nDy5FT1T
[19:08] <Felishia> RoyK did that like 10 times
[19:09] <Felishia> I did that after showing it to you
[19:09] <ChogyDan> marco__: what does apt-cache policy clang say?
[19:09] <Felishia> and it still says that it's busy
[19:09] <RoyK> Felishia: lsof /media/onza/Xubuntu
[19:09] <Guest20483> russian?
[19:09] <RoyK> Felishia: it won't be unmountable if files are open on the filesystem
[19:10] <Felishia> no such file or directory
[19:10] <wilee-nilee> !ru | Guest20483
[19:10] <karab44> can my usb second partition /dev/sdb2 be my bootable partition?
[19:10] <Felishia> da fuq
[19:10] <RoyK> Felishia: then install lsof
[19:10] <_2cool4me4_> karab44, How are you installing?
[19:10] <RoyK> Felishia: apt-get install etc
[19:11] <Felishia> no... wait look
[19:11] <RoyK> Felishia: apt-get install lsof
[19:11] <RoyK> to be precise
[19:11] <Felishia> it's installed
[19:11] <Felishia> my device is totally empty with no partitions
[19:11] <Felishia> and it still opens something
[19:11] <Felishia> it mounts the live of xubuntu
[19:11] <karab44> _2cool4me4_: BIOS, F12 select drive
[19:11] <marco__> ChogyDan: "cant locate package Clang"
[19:11] <RoyK> Felishia: no, there's a partition there, with a filesystem, and it's mounted
[19:11] <ChogyDan> marco__: it is lower case
[19:11] <Felishia> but gparted shows nothing
[19:11] <RoyK> type vfat, meaning FAT32
[19:12] <Felishia> /dev/sdb on /media/onza/Xubuntu 13.04 i386 type iso9660 (ro,nosuid,nodev,uid=1000,gid=1000,iocharset=utf8,mode=0400,dmode=0500,uhelper=udisks2)
[19:12] <RoyK> yes
[19:12] <joe_b> Anyone know of somewhere I can order a bootable _usb_ of 13.04?
[19:12] <RoyK> uh
[19:12] <RoyK> iso9660?
[19:12] <Felishia> that iso9660 is indestructible
[19:12] <Felishia> yes
[19:12] <Felishia> written with dd
[19:12] <RoyK> that's not your USB thing
[19:12] <Felishia> it i
[19:12] <Felishia> it is
[19:12] <RoyK> ok
[19:12] <FloodBot1> Felishia: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:13] <RoyK> Felishia: the one you pasted said vfat
[19:13]  * RoyK kicks FloodBot1 
[19:13] <marco__> ChogyDan: it cant find it neither
[19:13] <Felishia> RoyK I have no idea I just take my usb stick and put it again
[19:13] <RoyK> try that
[19:14] <ChogyDan> marco__: can you pastebin all this?  I mean, I dunno, it should be there.  Maybe there is a typo in your command
[19:14] <wilee-nilee> marco__, What release are you running and did you enable the repos I told you?
[19:14] <_2cool4me4_> karab44, ???
[19:14] <marco__> ChogyDan: ok, but it'll be in spanish
[19:15] <marco__> wilee-nilee: what repos? i dont really know how to do that
[19:15] <Felishia> RoyK I did umount the device and format it and now it's being treated as a file
[19:15] <marco__> wilee-nilee: im using raring ringtail
[19:15] <karab44> give me a second
[19:16] <wilee-nilee> marco__, I gave you the info, and so did trism look up in the posts.
[19:16] <Felishia> I can't erase the iso9660 partition
[19:16] <wilee-nilee>  marco__, ubuntu software center-edit software sources make sure the 3rd party independent is ticked, might be the backports not sure really
[19:17] <wilee-nilee> trism suggests the universl repo marcepan
[19:17] <wilee-nilee> marco__, ^^^^
[19:17] <wilee-nilee> marcepan, sorry
[19:17] <marco__> ChogyDan: http://pastebin.com/ig7h2uDY
[19:18] <wilee-nilee> marco__, It is in raring, you have to have the correct repo open stop and do it.
[19:18] <RoyK> Felishia: dd if=/dev/zero of=/your/pen/device bs=1M count=4
[19:18] <RoyK> Felishia: should do the job rather well
[19:18] <RoyK> Felishia: it'll erase the partitions (and data) on the device
[19:18] <Felishia> ok
[19:19] <wilee-nilee> marco__, Open the repos, run a update and then try the install.
[19:19] <IMTheNachoMan> hey guys. anyone know why after a fresh install, instead of booting ubuntu it boots into initramfs?
[19:21] <Dr_willis> IMTheNachoMan,  try the boot-repair tool/guide to reinstall grub.
[19:21] <Dr_willis> !fixgrub
[19:21] <Felishia> RoyK, oh!!!! yes it worked!!!
[19:21] <marco__> wilee-nilee: i've just done the software center thing, it was already ticked
[19:21] <Felishia> that must be added to gparted
[19:21] <Felishia> like "destroy everything"
[19:22] <Felishia> iso9660 partitions seems to be a huge pain
[19:22] <Dr_willis> its not a iso9660 'partition'
[19:22] <IMTheNachoMan> Dr_willis, thanks. I wonder why it would do that with a fresh install. It boots to some menu where I select Ubuntu but then it drops to initramfs. Is this a common problem?
[19:22] <Dr_willis> its an iso9660 image :)
[19:22] <marco__> wilee-nilee: how do i open the repos?
[19:22] <Felishia> Dr_willis, filesystem?
[19:22] <Dr_willis> IMTheNachoMan,  it can happen.
[19:22] <wilee-nilee> marco__, tck the box next to the ones I have mentioned.
[19:23] <wilee-nilee> tick*
[19:23] <Dr_willis> Felishia,  and having to use the dd zero, trick on a usb flash to blank it from a iso dd to it. :) has been around for years.
[19:23] <Dr_willis> but only in the last year or 2 - have you been able to 'dd' an ubuntu iso straight to flash.
[19:23] <Felishia> Dr_willis... I was searching for something :p but didn't notice that was the proper answer
[19:24] <wilee-nilee> marco__, Go through the tabs and find the correct reference and tick the boxs then run a update and try again.
[19:24] <Felishia> quick help :p I have a 2200 mb of a bz2 file and I need to break in in 1900mb and 300mb :p
[19:24] <Dr_willis> Felishia,  you can even make a USB flash that shows up as a 'cdrom' and a normal flash drive. with some work.
[19:24] <Felishia> Dr_willis, that's what my usb stick used to be
[19:25] <Dr_willis> those U3 secure flash drives had that setup on them
[19:25] <Felishia> U3 secure flash drives?
[19:25] <RoyK> Felishia: man split
[19:26] <Felishia> I'm reading RoyK :p
[19:26] <worrow> In need of some help if someone is available. I am unable to change brightness on my laptop. It goes down to 90% or max only.
[19:26] <Felishia> but I wanna do it now to go home and eat
[19:27] <Felishia> split SIZE=1990M file.bz2
[19:27] <Felishia> like that?
[19:27] <marco__> wilee-nilee: i've ticked absolutely everething, updated, and didn't work
[19:27] <wilee-nilee> worrow, check askubuntu with your computer model and brightness, and post that info here, details make a difference.
[19:27] <Felishia> and how do I fusion it again?
[19:27] <marco__> wilee-nilee: i'm done with this.
[19:27] <marco__> wilee-nilee: i just hate linux now
[19:27] <RoyK> Felishia: cat file1 file2 > bigfile
[19:27] <wilee-nilee> marco__, Your choice.
[19:27] <marco__> wilee-nilee: so much frustration
[19:28] <Felishia> it'd be so good if I could compress it to something smaller
[19:28] <Felishia> 7zip :D
[19:28] <marco__> wilee-nilee: operative systems should be there to make things easier
[19:28] <marco__> bye.
[19:28] <Felishia> RoyK it's not a text file...
[19:28] <RoyK> Felishia: cat works for binary files too ;)
[19:28] <worrow> Asus K55A and I did check askubuntu and followed a few different theories. 1 was adding a ling to the grub which didn't change anything
[19:28] <Dr_willis> rar the zip. then 7zip the rar.
[19:28] <Dr_willis> ;)
[19:28] <Felishia> wow really?
[19:28] <RoyK> Felishia: just try
[19:29] <Felishia> Dr_willis it's bzipped :p do you think I can 7zip it?
[19:29] <RoyK> Felishia: then check with sha256sum or something
[19:29] <Felishia> RoyK, okies :3 but gonna try to make the file smaller :)
[19:29] <Dr_willis> Felishia,  what kind of data is in it?
[19:29] <Felishia> iso file u.u
[19:29] <Felishia> it's .iso.bz2
[19:30] <Dr_willis> and what kind of data is on the iso?
[19:30] <wilee-nilee> worrow, Did you update-grub
[19:30] <worrow> absolutely. I am at a loss.
[19:30] <Felishia> Dr_willis HTML files as it's a complete server data
[19:30] <Felishia> well only the webpages actually
[19:30] <worrow> It does work but only lets me move it down to 90% and back to 100%
[19:30] <Felishia> and the scripts and stuff
[19:30] <Dr_willis> Felishia,  i imagine its about as compressed as its going to get then. text stuff should compress very well.
[19:31] <wilee-nilee> worrow, Not sure myself, be sure to use nicks.
[19:31] <Dr_willis> you could extract it and try differnt compression tools and options.
[19:31] <Felishia> Dr_willis, what about if I take the iso out?
[19:31] <Felishia> like taking the files out of the iso and then put 7zip in them?
[19:31] <worrow> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1103620
[19:31] <Dr_willis> Felishia,   go for it.
[19:31] <XMlnewbi> what can cause an "mixed content" https error? did i mess something up setting up the SSL?
[19:31] <worrow> I followed those directions
[19:31] <Felishia> :) trying...
[19:31] <Dr_willis> !iso
[19:32] <Felishia> firsly I'll try the easier that's compress the compressed...
[19:32] <Dr_willis> i doubt if comrpessing a comrepessed file will gain anything
[19:32] <tmmunq> XMlnewbi: mixed content is a page with some content that was sent encrypted and some that was not
[19:32] <worrow> is there an alternate app to control my brightness with those keys?
[19:33] <Felishia> Dr_willis, hoping it wasn't well compressed :p
[19:33] <Dr_willis> rar might be able to get it a few % smaller if you use the right options
[19:33] <dniz0> hell all,.. im trying to build a package that is looking for a build/ directory that im assuming would be a  par of the linux-kernel-headers package?  and located at /lib/modules/2.6.32-38/build -->  /usrc/src/2.6.32-38/build     ??  however i dont see that build/ directory anywhere?  Can someone point out what im doing wrong please
[19:33] <Felishia> Dr_willis, rar?... :s isn't rar licensed¡??
[19:33] <Dr_willis> Felishia,  thats even worse then. ;)
[19:33] <Dr_willis> Felishia,  so?
[19:33] <Dr_willis> !rar
[19:33] <Dr_willis> ubuntu cant use licensed stuff? :)
[19:34] <Dr_willis> wine winrar.exe      ;P or use the rar binaries
[19:34] <Felishia> Dr_willis, I know but I'd need to buy the licenses... :p
[19:34] <Felishia> I hate wine ¬¬
[19:34] <Dr_willis> err.. buy? since when?
[19:35] <Felishia> wine is an effort to unencrypt what windows say the way they say :(
[19:35] <Felishia> if it were allowed to be perfect it'd be so good
[19:35] <IMTheNachoMan> Dr_willis, thanks
[19:35] <IMTheNachoMan> are there any tools on ubuntu live cd to format an HD, write 0s, and check it?
[19:35] <Dr_willis> IMTheNachoMan,  boot-repair tool worked?
[19:35] <Felishia> you know... ¬¬
[19:35] <Dr_willis> IMTheNachoMan,  you can use the cli tools. or install gparted (thats easier)
[19:35] <Felishia> I think I'm buying a DVD xD
[19:36] <IMTheNachoMan> Dr_willis, Oddly enough, I didn't need it. I turned it on today and it booted up. I don't know. Either way I want to null the disk out and start from scratch.
[19:36] <IMTheNachoMan> Dr_willis, which cli tools?
[19:37] <Felishia> so "split SIZE=1990M file.bz2"
[19:37] <Felishia> would that work? or do I have a syntax error?
[19:37] <Stuttergart> known issue: displayport on Macbook 9,2 not working at all with raring?
[19:38] <Stuttergart> The Google isn't returning much and the compat page says extdisplay works fine.
[19:39] <Dr_willis> http://www.computerhope.com/unix/usplit.htm   split examples
[19:39] <wilee-nilee> IMTheNachoMan, format with gparted, or the installer, 0 with the cli. the disks app has a smart tool.
[19:39] <Felishia> split works with bytes... that confuses meeeeee!
[19:39] <Dr_willis> IMTheNachoMan,  parted, fdisk, cfdisk.   mkfs.XXXX
[19:40] <Dr_willis> 1990M is in megs..
[19:40] <Felishia> yes
[19:41] <mustmodify> I'm sure the answer is SUPER OBVIOUS but I'm apparently not firing on all cylinders today. WHat's the difference between writing a PDF to a file in binary mode vs not?
[19:41] <Felishia> bzip2 is taking years o.o
[19:41] <Dr_willis> mustmodify,  writing with what?
[19:42] <IMTheNachoMan> Dr_willis, thanks sir
[19:43] <owen__> Does anyone know how to enable iptables module for the kernel at boot time?
[19:43] <mustmodify> Dr_willis: ruby. I'm receiving a PDF and writing it to a file locally. But it apparently isn't valid and I need to figure out WTF I did wrong.
[19:43] <wilee-nilee> !iptables
[19:43] <SolarisBoy> Felishia: you can put split into line mode with -l and providing the amount of lines you want per file
[19:43] <Dr_willis> mustmodify,  id say it should be in binary mode.
[19:43] <wilee-nilee> owen__, see bots message
[19:43] <mustmodify> Dr_willis: Yeah, that's the consensus. But what's the other option?
[19:44] <mustmodify> ASCII?
[19:44] <mustmodify> I mean...
[19:44] <mustmodify> what?
[19:44] <Felishia> split -b 1990 m file.bz2
[19:44] <Dr_willis> mustmodify,  about the only time ive heard 'ascii' mode is for old ftp file transfers.. and even then . you wanted binary mode 99% of the time. :)
[19:44] <owen__> wilee-nilee: Doesn't help unfortunately
[19:45] <mustmodify> I'm just asking... what's the other option other than Binary?
[19:45] <SolarisBoy> plain text? ascii?
[19:45] <wilee-nilee> owen__, Do you not understand the instructions?
[19:45] <Felishia> I'm noticing so much of linux like how the output is designed to be read by awk
[19:45] <Dr_willis> mustmodify,  perhaps ask in #ruby ? :) i can only think of binary and ascii
[19:45] <Dr_willis> awk is a wonder-tool :)
[19:45] <Jordan_U> mustmodify: ASCII or EBCDIC
[19:45] <mustmodify> Dr_willis: Ah, it's 'text'
[19:45] <mustmodify> whatever that means.
[19:45] <SolarisBoy> mustmodify: are you having an issue with ruby or ftp?
[19:46] <Felishia> Dr_willis, however awk = awkard X3 how annoying it is when you're learning
[19:46] <vanishing> can someone take a look at this?
[19:46] <vanishing> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6029789/
[19:46] <IMTheNachoMan> If I use Ubuntu's use entire disk option at install time, it will set up partitions and GPT and all that for me, right?
[19:46] <mustmodify> SolarisBoy: It's not clear at this point.
[19:46] <vanishing> im not sure whats wrong with that
[19:46] <mustmodify> :(
[19:46] <Jordan_U> mustmodify: It means that it's not 8 bit clean, and other phrases that you never hear anymore because a lot has happened in the many decades since FTP was first introduced.
[19:46] <wizard_A> how can i see the shared folders of my clients?
[19:47] <SolarisBoy> mustmodify: when ruby grabs your file - execute "file <filename>" see if it recognized as a pdf file so if any modules your using that write to pdf - you'll be sure they are working with the right data
[19:47] <Dr_willis> wizard_A,  hmm.. smbtree, findsmb,   smbclient,     may be other ways.
[19:47] <SolarisBoy> so i assume your FTP download via ruby net/ftp or so forth -
[19:47] <mustmodify> SolarisBoy: I was just looking at that. Result is: public/system/reports_of_record/pdfs/000/000/001/original/report.pdf: PDF document, version 1.3
[19:47] <mustmodify> so that seems good.
[19:48] <SolarisBoy> is that the problematic PDF? and what error are you actually getting ?
[19:49] <wizard_A> i've created an ad-hoc that shares my ethernet inernet connection with others over the wireless. i cannot even see their systems in the network directory but arp cmd tells me that they are connected.
[19:49] <mustmodify> SolarisBoy: So I guess my thinking is... "If file recognizes it but Chrome says "Failed to load PDF document... does that mean there is an encoding problem? Or that the PDF is just corrupt? And if so how did it get that way?"
[19:49] <Dr_willis> 'file' just reads like the first line or 2 i think.
[19:49] <SolarisBoy> mustmodify: its possible it's corrupt - i guess it depends on where/how the pdf header is written
[19:50] <SolarisBoy> so it's possible a corrupt one still makes file print it as pdf
[19:50] <Jordan_U> mustmodify: It's also possible that it's a PDF that chrome can't handle but another PDF reader might.
[19:51] <Felishia> bz2 deleted my compressed file T_T
[19:54] <GH0> I know everyone is getting tired of me asking file system recovery questions. But, if dumpe2fs doesn't recognize any superblock's and I can't run fsck -nt ext4 /dev/sdf, what can I attempt to do to regain the files. Right now I am working off a cloned drive.
[19:55] <Dr_willis> ddrescue it to a image, and work on the image you made. is common practice.
[19:55] <vanishing> anyone know about Could not create object for (null): No session found for uid 1000 (unknown)
[19:55] <vanishing> this error?
[19:55] <Jordan_U> GH0: It sounds like your primary problem might be that you're trying to work with the entire drive, while the filesystem is on a partition.
[19:55] <mustmodify> so I opened the problem PDF and another one in vim, and it's clear that the working one is binary and the other is plaintext or something: https://url.odesk.com/4atwti
[19:56] <Dr_willis> GH0,  ddrescue Might be able to recover more of the data and the  other info. it may take several tries however.
[19:56] <Dr_willis> yea. definatly ddrescue one partion into a file at a time. not the whole drive. that saves a lot of hassles
[19:56] <Felishia> gota goo
[19:56] <GH0> Jordan_U, noo, I am specifying /dev/sdf1 (sorry, I didn't specify a partition in that line)
[19:57] <Dr_willis> vanishing,  and when are you getting that error?
[19:58] <Jordan_U> GH0: What problem are you having with running "fsck -nt /dev/sdf1" and why are you specifying -t?
[19:58] <HouseLegend> Hello everyone, can anyone give me a hand in installing ubuntu. Im having trouble with partitions... for some reason it wont recognize partitions... Thanks
[19:58] <Dr_willis> HouseLegend,  common issue = a windows setup thats allready using 4 primary partitions.
[19:58] <owen__>  wilee-nilee: It is iptables I want not ufw. Problem is when I installed a newer kernel, iptables works, but when I reboot it doesnt. I can reinstall the kernel to get the iptables working again, but it is not persistent. I have deleted the old kernel, but somewhere old settings are finding their way into the new kernel at boot time.
[19:58] <vanishing> Dr_willis: I have been dealing with this for sometimes now
[19:58] <HouseLegend> Dr_willis i have 2 partitions ...
[19:59] <vanishing> Dr_willis: this is in .xsession-erros
[19:59] <vanishing> errors*
[19:59] <Jordan_U> HouseLegend: Please pastebin the output of "sudo parted -l". You probably have an invalid partition table.
[19:59] <Jordan_U> Dr_willis: libparted based tools showing the drive as completely "unallocated" generally means invalid partition table.
[19:59] <Dr_willis> vanishing,  and whats trying to get started thats giving that error?
[19:59] <HouseLegend> Jordan_U, let me boot up Ubuntu
[19:59] <vanishing> Dr_willis: gnome-session
[20:00] <vanishing> Dr_willis: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6029789/
[20:00] <vanishing> network-manager is greyed out, and cpu-freq indicator cannot be switched
[20:00] <Dr_willis> Hmm. session managers are a bit out dated i thought. havent really messed with sessions in ages. How are you logging into X?
[20:01] <vanishing> by greyed out I mean it wifi/network enable option is greyed out
[20:01] <pepper_chico> I have a bounty here guys, a bounty! http://askubuntu.com/q/335489
[20:01] <vanishing> im using lightdm
[20:01] <vanishing> using systemd
[20:02] <Jordan_U> vanishing: What do you mean by "using systemd"? I don't think that using systemd on Ubuntu is supported, and I don't expect it works well without some work either.
[20:03] <vanishing> Jordan_U: I thought they switched to systemd already..
[20:03] <Dr_willis> i was wondering when the big move to systemd will take place. ;)  not sure if thats in 13.10 or slated for 14.x or perhaps 15.x
[20:03] <HouseLegend_> Im back on Ubuntu booted from USB stick, what did you told me to do from terminal once again ?
[20:04] <Jordan_U> vanishing: Nope, no current plans to switch to systemd at all. Ubuntu has chosen to stick with upstart.
[20:04] <Jordan_U> HouseLegend_: sudo parted -l
[20:04] <WormDrink> hi
[20:04] <psy^> haha
[20:05] <WormDrink> can unetbootin reserved space be used by xubuntu also ?
[20:05] <HouseLegend_> Jordan_U where can i paste it ?
[20:05] <Jordan_U> !pastebin | HouseLegend_
[20:05] <wizard_A> i've created an ad-hoc that shares my ethernet inernet connection with others over the wireless. i cannot even see their systems in the network directory but arp cmd tells me that they are connected.
[20:05] <Dr_willis> WormDrink,  should work for making persistant ssessions for all the ubuntu variants.
[20:05] <Dr_willis> WormDrink,  if not tgheres tools at the pendrivelinux site that can
[20:05] <HouseLegend_> Jordan_U, Here http://paste.ubuntu.com/6030011/
[20:06] <HouseLegend_> And yes it shows 4 ...
[20:06] <wilee-nilee> WormDrink, You can make a persistent partition as well if you want more than 4 gigs and have the space
[20:06] <Jordan_U> HouseLegend_: What did you mean by Ubuntu "not recognizing partitions"? Please be specific about what you saw and where.
[20:07] <HouseLegend_> Jordan_U, i dosnt show me that i have 2 parition and like 200GB of unllocated space ... i will take a screenshot of installation in a sec
[20:08] <wilee-nilee> HouseLegend_, 4 primaries is the limit you need to lose one and put a extended in for logical partitions for ubuntu.
[20:09] <HouseLegend_> wilee-nilee i would if i knowd how... thats the problem i deleted 2 partitions on Windows, and now on Windows i have only 2 ...
[20:10] <wilee-nilee> HouseLegend_, Can you give a screen shot of gparted in  an imagebin?
[20:10] <Dr_willis> so you should be seeing a large part of 'unallocated' space on the fdisk -l or gparted  output.
[20:10] <mango_> anyone know if grub2 suffers from timing issues
[20:10] <Dr_willis> Unless the 2 were IN a extended partion. but then you wouldent have 4 primaries.
[20:10] <wilee-nilee> mango_, IN what manner?
[20:10] <HouseLegend_> just a sec wilee
[20:12] <mango_> wilee-nilee: Dr_willis was helping me on this earlier, but it seems my machine only boots up in certain states
[20:12] <joshuag> hello
[20:12] <HouseLegend_> wilee-nilee, it shows them rly wrong ...
[20:12] <HouseLegend_> PS uploading image
[20:13] <mango_> wilee-nilee: the screen never appears when starting from a cold boot.
[20:13] <owen__> When I run 'iptables -L' I get this FATAL: Module ip_tables not found.
[20:13] <owen__> iptables v1.4.12: can't initialize iptables table `filter': Table does not exist (do you need to insmod?)
[20:13] <owen__> Perhaps iptables or your kernel needs to be upgraded.
[20:13] <owen__> Did the upgrade, but same problem..
[20:13] <FloodBot1> owen__: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:13] <joshuag> any one wanna help me out my ubuntu keeps freezeing after a few mins. i have ubuntu 64bit 13.04
[20:13] <wilee-nilee> mango_, Fresh install, has been working, some details please?
[20:13] <owen__> does anyone know anything about kernel modules here?
[20:14] <Ari-Yang> owen__, just ask your question, and somebody is free to get to you....
[20:14] <wilee-nilee> !details | joshuag,
[20:14] <joshuag> i ran a memtest86+
[20:14] <joshuag> passed
[20:14] <mango_> wilee-nilee: the screen works in these situations, when I force the bootup process to go into grub, or after the screen has gone blank, I force a shutdown, and start the machine again.
[20:15] <HouseLegend_> wilee-nilee, http://i.imgur.com/sMjsGpF.jpg
[20:15] <wilee-nilee> mango_, Any proprietary graphic drivers involved?
[20:15] <mango_> Good X0rg.0.log: http://pastelink.me/dl/38ec13, Bad X0rg.0.log: http://pastelink.me/dl/38ec13
[20:15] <agyzone> hello ... i need help please
[20:15] <owen__> Having problems with an Ubuntu 12.04LTS migration from OpenVZ to a local device. The kernel which was imported was 'linux-kernel-3.2.2.0-........' Basically when I try to run 'iptables -L' I get ... 'FATAL v1.4.12: can't initialize iptabes 'filter' : Table does not exist (do you need to insmod)?'  ........ So I installed kernel 3.4..... instead and removed the original kernel that was copied from the OpenVZ container , now iptables works, b
[20:15] <mango_> wilee-nilee: it's just onboard intel
[20:16] <mango_> VESA
[20:16] <Jordan_U> HouseLegend_: Are you still working on the screenshot of the installer?
[20:16] <agyzone> i am tryin to installing ubuntu12 on my laptop .. when i boot from cd .. it shows me a purple screen and then shows an error [7.980172] Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0)
[20:16] <agyzone> please help ...
[20:17] <HouseLegend_> Jordan_U its same as this one ... but wait a sec, shows same partitions ... http://i.imgur.com/sMjsGpF.jpg
[20:17] <mango_> wilee-nilee: So far I have, played around nomodeset, tried uncommenting GRUB_GFXMODE and setting it at 640x480 and the native 1024x576, I've set GRUB_HIDDEN_TIME_QUIET=false, none of these have worked
[20:17] <wilee-nilee> !pastebin | mango_ no one will download stuff
[20:17] <Dr_willis> agyzone,  first guess would be   a bad iso image, or burn to disk
[20:18] <agyzone> @dr_willis - i tried downloading and burning the image on two seperate DVD's ... both showed the same issue
[20:18] <agyzone> even i tried pendrivelinux.com to install it on pen drive ... still the same issue
[20:18] <Dr_willis> agyzone,  you did verify the iso image and burnt at the slowest speed?  I tend to make bootable USB flash drives
[20:19] <Jordan_U> HouseLegend_: You have 4 partitions and 1 MiB of unallocated space. If Windows is showing something else then I'm almost certain Windows is wrong.
[20:19] <Dr_willis> agyzone,  you can also 'dd' the iso straight to the usb  which normally works for most people
[20:19] <Toil> Hi. I've just upgraded from. 10.04. To 13.04
[20:20] <HouseLegend_> Jordan_U im sure Windows is wrong ... But im not sure how to fix that ...
[20:20] <X-User> what will running just this command in terminal will do "crontab" ?
[20:20] <Toil> But it doesn't boot. Sorry for the short / bad text, I'm on an iPad
[20:20] <wilee-nilee> Toil, This a fresh install?
[20:20] <HouseLegend_> Jordan_U, i would do full format but i have ~1.3TB of data, websites and music/project movies stuff
[20:20] <agyzone> @dr_willis - i tried using the flash drive too ... but same issue
[20:20] <Toil> No. Upgrade.
[20:20] <HouseLegend_> Jordan_U, http://i.imgur.com/JJruWIg.jpg
[20:20] <Dr_willis> data worth keeping - is data worth backing up. ;)
[20:20] <HouseLegend_> That is installer
[20:21] <wilee-nilee> Toil, through what other releases?
[20:21] <Dr_willis> agyzone,  that points to the  iso file being bad..  verify the md5sum of it. and perhaps use torrents to download it.
[20:21] <X-User> can anybody help?
[20:21] <_2cool4me4_> Oh. The grub update deleted Windows from my list of options at boot. Fun.
[20:21] <agyzone> i downloaded it from the torrent itself
[20:21] <Dr_willis> !cron | X-User
[20:21] <Toil> No other release.
[20:22] <wilee-nilee> _2cool4me4_, run update-grub
[20:22] <Toil> Wai5
[20:22] <X-User> Dr_willis, you dont get my queation
[20:22] <wilee-nilee> Toil, Then you did it wrong
[20:22] <Jordan_U> HouseLegend_: To be honest I think it's most likely that Windows is not wrong, and that you're simply misinterpreting what you're seeing in Windows. But if you want two of those partitions gone, then you can just delete them from GParted. That said, I agree 100% with Dr_willis that data worth keeping is data worth backing up. You'll eventually regret it if you don't backup the data you care about.
[20:22] <Toil> Wait, I mean 10.04 to 12.04
[20:22] <Dr_willis> X-User,  if you want to know what a command does  use 'man thecommand'
[20:22] <X-User> what will running just this command in terminal will do "crontab" ?
[20:23] <wilee-nilee> Toil, Ah, did you use the end of life upgrade, is this a 10.04 with a desktop?
[20:23] <_2cool4me4_> wilee_nilee: Wow, that was easier than expected. Thanks!
[20:23] <Dr_willis> X-User,  if you want to learn about the crontab system. then see the url above.. why would you just be running commands at random.
[20:23] <Toil> Eol, I assume
[20:23] <wilee-nilee> _2cool4me4_, no problem.
[20:23] <HouseLegend_> Jordan_U, sure its worth but, i dont have free HDD with 1.3TB. Once i get it i will back it up. Now im gonna go on Windows and if you want i can show you ss of partitions there. Just to confirm with you what is windows showing
[20:24] <wilee-nilee> Toil, yes eol from the terminal changing the repos.
[20:24] <X-User> Dr_willis, i got that already, seems like just "crontab" command will not do anything its a cli app
[20:24] <Dr_willis> X-User,  it is a cli app correct..   crontab - maintain crontab files for individual users
[20:24] <Jordan_U> HouseLegend_: Yes, please post the Windows screenshots here and in ##Windows.
[20:24] <Dr_willis> http://linux.die.net/man/1/crontab
[20:24] <wilee-nilee> Toil, only if a desktop version, is it?
[20:24] <X-User> Dr_willis, ok thanks
[20:25] <mango_> wilee-nilee: this is the bad X0rg.0.log file
[20:25] <Toil> I went through do release upgrade
[20:25] <mango_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6030068/
[20:25] <wilee-nilee> Toil, desktop version of 10.04?
[20:25] <Toil> Laptop.
[20:25] <Toil> http://postimg.org/image/5b38ocnrx/
[20:26] <wilee-nilee> Toil, Desktop meaning does it have a desktop not on a desktop.
[20:26] <Toil> No. It boots up to the circles part
[20:27] <Toil> Ten flashes then goes into the stage in that pic
[20:27] <Toil> I can alt f1 to login through a shell though
[20:27] <wilee-nilee> Toil, Here is the deal the 10.04 server is still supported, the 10.04 withy a desktop enviroment is eol, I'm just trying to confirm this was not a server with no desktop.
[20:28] <HouseLegend> Jordan_U, here is what Windows shows... http://i.imgur.com/dF6zsPx.png
[20:28] <_2cool4me4_> Is it a bad idea to run e4defrag?
[20:28] <Toil> It was with a desktop,  correct.
[20:28] <hpprinter100> hey how can i get the latest version of tshark?
[20:29] <wilee-nilee> Toil, The upgrade method you used was faulty, it is hard to say what happened.
[20:29] <Dr_willis> !ppa | hpprinter100
[20:29] <wilee-nilee> !eol | Toil here is what should have been done
[20:29] <mango_> wilee-nilee: this is the good X0rg.0.log: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6030087/ , this is the bad X0rg.0.log: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6030068/
[20:29] <Jordan_U> HouseLegend: You haven't posted the screenshot to ##windows yet.
[20:30] <HouseLegend> Jordan_U, i should go ask there ? or ?
[20:30] <Toil> Hmm.. Anyways to fix it?  >.<
[20:30] <wilee-nilee> Toil, YOU might try the recovery cli and running sudo apt-get -f install if its root no sudo
[20:31] <mango_> wilee-nilee: what I don't understand is why grub2 doesn't pick up the modes
[20:31] <Toil> It's root no sudo but for some reason networking isn't working
[20:31] <Toil> I've got my LAN set up into my laptop but it just says network is unchallenged
[20:31] <Toil> I reachable
[20:31] <Toil> ... Unreachable
[20:31] <Jordan_U> HouseLegend: My guess is that Windows considers a partition "unallocated" when it doesn't contain a filesystem, whereas Gparted and Ubuntu's installer consider space unallocated when there is no partition at all.
[20:32] <wilee-nilee> Toil, I'm  not your best help in fixing this, I would never do a upgrade myself, others may take the time. ;)
[20:32] <HouseLegend> Jordan_U, how do i fix that ? Without formating my whole PC. and if you want we can move this to ##windows so people here dont get mad :D
[20:32] <Toil> No problem thanks
[20:33] <usr13> Toil: You have your network setup on your laptop but the network is unreachable?
[20:33] <Jordan_U> HouseLegend: If my guess is correct, you just use GParted to actually remove the partitions.
[20:33] <Toil> No, I means I have a Ethernet cord in my laptop
[20:33] <Toil> So not wireless
[20:33] <usr13> Toil: I see.  So, what is the problem?
[20:34] <wilee-nilee> usr13, a non eol upgrade from 10.04 to 12.04
[20:34] <HouseLegend> Jordan_U Gparted shows them a bit weird.. it shows one partition of 1.7TB and there is no single partition like that here
[20:34] <usr13> wilee-nilee: Oh.
[20:34] <wilee-nilee> just info
[20:35] <usr13> wilee-nilee: But that shouldn't be a problem.  Right?  Should work ok.
[20:35] <wilee-nilee> usr13, Not the correct repos for the upgrade is all.
[20:36] <wilee-nilee> not sure in general I assume there is a eol upgrade path for good reasons
[20:36] <usr13> wilee-nilee: But as long as 10.04 was up-to-date, it should be ok, the repos would just change to the ones for 12.04
[20:36] <Jordan_U> HouseLegend: Look at your screenshot again, partition 4 is listed as being 1081.77 GiB large.
[20:36] <wilee-nilee> usr13, Cool I just don;t feel I can fix this is all.
[20:37] <usr13> wilee-nilee: What is broken?
[20:37] <wilee-nilee> usr13, You will ahve to ask the user all I had gotten was a no boot.
[20:37] <HouseLegend> Jordan_U, can you send me link i gave from ubuntu Gparted
[20:37] <wilee-nilee> have*
[20:38] <wilee-nilee> and a screenshot not readable
[20:38] <mojtaba> Hi, Does anybody know how can I install viber?
[20:38] <mojtaba> I heard viber for linux has been released.
[20:38] <wilee-nilee> !find viber
[20:40] <mango_> wilee-nilee: this is the good X0rg.0.log: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6030087/ , this is the bad X0rg.0.log: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6030068/
[20:40] <Toil> Sorry about that.
[20:40] <mango_> just comparing the files, I notice intel (0) doesn't get compiled
[20:40] <mango_> and I don't know why
[20:41] <Toil> I need to connect to the interwebs to apt get install -f, as I've just upgraded from 10.04 to 12.04, but it doesn't seem to boot past the Ubuntu loader(graphically)
[20:41] <pepper_chico> whoever answered the bounty tks =)
[20:41] <wilee-nilee> Toil, Have you tried nomodeset?
[20:41] <wilee-nilee> !nomodeset | toil
[20:41] <Toil> Nope?
[20:42] <Jordan_U> HouseLegend: http://i.imgur.com/sMjsGpF.jpg
[20:42] <juanki> hola
[20:42] <wilee-nilee> Toil, graphic drivers often do not follow distro upgrades
[20:42] <hpprinter100> can't find it in the PPA
[20:42] <hpprinter100> trying to compile from src
[20:43] <HouseLegend> Jordan_U, in that SS there is Parition of 1.58 TB, which dosnt exist ... This is driving me crazy ...
[20:43] <Jordan_U> HouseLegend: Ahh, the "Dynamic" might also mean that this is a Windows Dynamic Disk, in which case it shouldn't have an msdos label like the one that it does.
[20:43] <Toil> Ok just updating grub now
[20:43] <Toil> Rebooting
[20:43] <hpprinter100> needs gtk to run but i'm on headerless server
[20:43] <wilee-nilee> Toil, If you add nomodeset at the grub menu you will lose it in a reboot.
[20:44] <Toil> I added it to /etc/default/grub
[20:44] <Toil> Bu it don't see to have worked
[20:44] <wilee-nilee> Toil, chrooted in?
[20:44] <HouseLegend> Jordan_U, This is a SS from some Parition Tool software for Windows, maybe it helps ... http://i.imgur.com/UP8OT4b.png
[20:44] <Toil> After the Ubuntu splash screen, it goes toalac screen, with a. Loading mouse cursor.
[20:45] <Toil> Wit
[20:45] <Toil> Wait
[20:45] <Toil> Broke pipe something?
[20:45] <Toil> Loss of data
[20:45] <Jordan_U> HouseLegend: Yes, you have a Windows Dynamic Disk, which is similar to LVM.
[20:45] <wilee-nilee> Toil, You can remove the splash to see all the text.
[20:45] <HouseLegend> Jordan_U, so whats my next step. What should i do ?
[20:47] <Jordan_U> HouseLegend: You'll probably want to somehow convert the disk from WDD to a standard msdos partition table. I don't know how to do that, but someone in ##windows might.
[20:47] <HouseLegend> Jordan_U, thanks i will ask there
[20:47] <pepper_chico> anyone know if it's possible to turn Super click into Alt+F1?
[20:47] <Jordan_U> HouseLegend: You're welcome.
[20:49] <Toil> It's a start I think
[20:49] <Toil> It's now just black and cursor
[20:49] <Toil> Nvm
[20:49] <Toil> Still the same
[20:50] <Toil> In apt get infallible -f, there are a few thins that it wants me. I install
[20:50] <_2cool4me4_> That's it. I'm waiting to get a smartphone until 2014.
[20:51] <Toil> I'll try an older kernel
[20:52] <Toil> Nope. I'll try and see if I can e ack into a terminal and say what it wants to install. / upgrade
[20:52] <_2cool4me4_> Was Ubuntu Phone inspired by Palm WebOS?
[20:53] <wilee-nilee> !touch | _2cool4me4_
[20:53] <Dr_willis> _2cool4me4_,  I imagine it was inspired by everything that has came befor it.
[20:53] <Toil> Wot is this
[20:53] <Toil> It randomly loaded
[20:54] <Toil> Mouse doesn't work and when logging in it says
[20:54] <Toil> Failed to load session Ubuntu
[20:55] <grojass> hi there
[20:55] <grojass> did syslog-ng get replaced by syslog?
[20:55] <grojass> or they are two diferent things?
[20:56] <wilee-nilee> Toil, If you can access this with a live cd I would pull out what you need and do a fresh install, if you can.
[20:56] <Toil> Mm
[20:56] <Toil> Does 12.04 use unity?
[20:56] <wilee-nilee> Toil, yes, and others
[20:56] <Pici> grojass: they are two different things.  We use rsyslog by default in Ubuntu.
[20:57] <Toil> Is it bad that unity isn't installed? Lol
[20:57] <grojass> Pici: thanks, where can i find the rsyslog conf file is it /etc/syslog.conf?
[20:57] <holstein> Toil: if you dont have unity, you didnt install main ubuntu
[20:57] <wilee-nilee> Toil, can you install the ubuntu-desktop that is unity
[20:57] <Pici> grojass: /etc/rsyslog.conf
[20:57] <Toil> Ubuntu 10 didn't use unity though did it?
[20:58] <wilee-nilee> Toil, Nope but a correct eol upgrade would have installed it.
[20:58] <atrus> grojass: "syslog" is sort of a concept. it's provided/implemented by rsyslog, syslog-ng, and several others.
[20:59] <Toil> So the problem could be the lack of unity ?
[20:59] <grojass> thanks
[20:59] <holstein> Toil: the problem could be, that you think you downloaded main ubuntu, but didnt
[20:59] <wilee-nilee> Toil, hard to say you started out completely wrong in this upgrade
[21:00] <wilee-nilee> Toil, Can you get to the sources.list and pastebin it?
[21:01] <Jordan_U> Toil: Did you use do-release-upgrade to upgrade?
[21:01] <Smilo> My mic was working fine yesterday and the only updates i have had have been a kernel update and i installed python3. Suddenly my mic is picking up tonnes of background noise making it barely audible. The slider bar for my mic in pulseaudio volume control keeps in locking, if that helps. I am running 12.04 thanks.
[21:01] <Toil> Yes Jordan I did
[21:01] <Toil> 10.04 to 12.04
[21:01] <jordan> Jordan_U: Toil did
[21:01] <Toil> While, I can take aa pic lol
[21:01] <jordan> :)
[21:02] <Smilo> Can anyone help?
[21:02] <Smilo> please
[21:02] <holstein> i know, i would just fresh install.. i did a fresh install of 12.04 yesterday.. took about 6 minutes
[21:02] <holstein> Smilo: boot the older kernel and test
[21:02] <Smilo> I dont know how :/
[21:02] <Toil> But I'd hAve to reinstall everything :C
[21:02] <wilee-nilee> Smilo, Maybe give it more than a minute for begging for help, which is not a good idea anyway.
[21:03] <Dr_willis> !clone
[21:03] <Dr_willis> Smilo,  the grub menu has options for the older kernels
[21:03] <holstein> Toil: you *get* to reinstall everything, and see that the system is installed properly, and "everything" is working, without having to mess about like you are
[21:04] <Toil> Well, that's the optimistic way of looking at it :D
[21:04] <Jordan_U> jordan: They said that they were going to but that it didn't work, then came back saying they had upgraded. I'd like confirmation that they got do-release-upgrade working rather than trying to do something else.
[21:05] <Jordan_U> jordan: D'oh, I missed Toil's comment, which explains your comment :)
[21:05] <juan_> hola
[21:05] <marcoo> hola
[21:05] <Toil> Well if you'd like to help debug, I'm all ears :P
[21:05] <juan_> quien vive ?
[21:05] <wilee-nilee> !es
[21:05] <juan_> spain
[21:05] <WinstonSmith> Dr_willis: in regard to that clone factoid, is that the way to go now? i always used dpkg --get-selections|--set-selections?
[21:06] <marcoo> nadie vive, son usuarios de linux
[21:06] <wilee-nilee> juan_, marcoo /join #ubuntu-es
[21:06] <jordan> Jordan_U: I feel like I should give you my login, as many times as I get pinged as you in #ubuntu :-)
[21:06] <juan_> por esto estoy aquí
[21:06] <marcoo> wilee-nilee: i'm the packages guy.
[21:06] <marcoo> wilee-nilee: i'm back
[21:07] <wilee-nilee> marcoo, This is an english channel is all.
[21:07] <marcoo> wilee-nilee: this time with a little more patience
[21:07] <marcoo> wilee-nilee: trying to install clang, remember?
[21:07] <wilee-nilee> yes
[21:08] <marcoo> i feel marooned, ive tried everything
[21:09] <wilee-nilee> marcoo, I'm not sure here it is in my synaptic, and I have no specialized repos for it to show.
[21:09] <wilee-nilee> I'm on 13.04
[21:09] <z4> does ubuntu still have that game called four in a row?
[21:09] <marcoo> any ideas on why i dont have them in my repos?
[21:10] <marcoo> or how can i get your repos?
[21:10] <marcoo> wilee-nilee: i'd gladly let you ssh access if that can help
[21:10] <wilee-nilee> marcoo, Run this command and pastebin all the text. grep -vr "^#" /etc/apt/sources.list{,.d/}
[21:12] <marcoo> wilee-nilee: pastebin.com/psr9MueZ
[21:12] <wilee-nilee> I don;t access other OS
[21:13] <marcoo> wilee-nilee: www.pastebin.com/psr9MueZ
[21:16] <Toil> Ok I've got some useful info
[21:17] <Toil> http://postimg.org/image/u3yfe1viz/
[21:17] <Toil> http://postimg.org/image/bn40n8fkr/
[21:17] <Toil> Again sorry for upside down
[21:17] <Toil> On iPad.
[21:18] <Toil> S the last thing it does before it goes into infinite cursor mode is Anac h ronisitic
[21:19] <wilee-nilee> marcoo, You have a number of problems, in the software sourecs.d you have a quantal repo, you have a cinnamon ppa it bis in ythe repos, and you are missing the standrad ubuntu repos.
[21:19] <mango_> http://askubuntu.com/questions/337644/grub2-doesnt-load-screen-only-when-i-shift-into-grub2-menu
[21:19] <holstein> Toil: i like to run a live CD, *even* if im going to try and upgrade.. i like to know the that the hardware supports the operating system
[21:20] <wilee-nilee> marcoo, This is ubuntu 13.04 right not mint or any other?
[21:20] <Guest79760> hi guy
[21:20] <marcoo> yes
[21:21] <Guest79760> i need a script to make increase brightness at the most high level before i shutdown
[21:21] <Toil> Sigh.. Guess my only option is to reinstall ?
[21:21] <Guest79760> i saw that there is a possibility to make it increase when i startup  inn this way echo 9 > /sys/class/backlight/acpi_video0/brightness
[21:22] <Guest79760> but i need the same thing, but when i shiut down
[21:22] <marcoo> wilee-nilee: i have some cinnamon repos because i didnt like unity
[21:22] <marcoo> wilee-nilee: but im using unity now
[21:22] <wilee-nilee> marcoo, Go to this link make a new 13.04 sources list and replace the one in gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list    then you need to clean up the bad PPA's with ppapurge. The correct sources should get you clang. http://repogen.simplylinux.ch/
[21:22] <marcoo> wilee-nilee: how can i clean everything and get the standart repos for raring?
[21:23] <Toil> Ok we'll thanks for the help anyways :/
[21:23] <wilee-nilee> marcoo, cinnamon is in the 13.04 ubuntu repos
[21:23] <OerHeks> ppa-purge
[21:23] <Guest79760> anyone knows?
[21:23] <blazemore> Toil: if you back up your entire home directory and then reinstall, you can copy the backup acrsoss afterwards and keep all your...
[21:23] <blazemore> k
[21:24] <Guest79760> blazemore, can you help me?
[21:29] <blazemore> !ask
[21:31] <RoyK> !ask | Guest79760
[21:31] <marcoo> "ppa-purge is not installed. You can install it writing sudo apt-get install ppa-purge" sometimes i feel like being trolled
[21:32] <RoyK> marcoo: did you try to install it?
[21:32] <marcoo> yes, i had the same problem i'm trying to solve
[21:32] <linux-ninja> having a issue where I mount a remote NFS filesystem and the soft link do not work, any ideas?
[21:33] <Jordan_U> !details | linux-ninja
[21:33] <iceroot_> linux-ninja: symlinks are not working on nfs shares
[21:33] <madeinkobaia> Hi all, I recently done a wallpaper pack for Ubuntu, may I share a link here (or elsewhere ?) with the community ?
[21:33] <wilee-nilee> madeinkobaia, Not here.
[21:33] <iceroot_> madeinkobaia: http://ubuntu-art.org/
[21:33] <Dr_willis> madeinkobaia,  perhaps in #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:33] <wilee-nilee> use the ubuntu forums, that is spam in the irc
[21:34] <RoyK> marcoo: pastebin exports
[21:34] <linux-ninja> ubottu, I have server A acting as NFS server, when I mount this into server B using NFS, the links within server A do not traverse under server B, makes sense?
[21:34] <marcoo> IT WORKED!
[21:35] <RoyK> marcoo: :)
[21:35] <marcoo> sorry for the caps
[21:35] <marcoo> yeeessss
[21:35] <marcoo> i'm *so* happy nowwww
[21:35] <madeinkobaia> willee-nilee: Ok no worries guys . I was just asking. See you all and thanks for the answer.
[21:35] <linux-ninja> iceroot_, This used to work fine in other systems
[21:35] <Dr_willis> linux-ninja,  you mean 'ln -s'  soft links and hard links?
[21:35] <linux-ninja> Dr_willis, yeah
[21:35] <marcoo> wilee-nilee, million thanks. thank you, thank you.
[21:36] <marcoo> wilee-nilee, sorry for leaving earlier
[21:36] <marcoo> you guys rock, i'd gift you a free beer if i knew you phisically
[21:37] <RoyK> (or physically)
[21:37] <kaya> I would like to install "all video downloader" but i receive: Unable to load page
[21:37] <kaya> Problem occurred while loading the URL https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/tos/plain/
[21:37] <kaya> Cannot resolve proxy hostname ()"
[21:37] <kaya> I have ubuntu 12.04 LTS
[21:37] <linux-ninja> Dr_willis, any clues as to why this is happening.
[21:37] <linux-ninja> The soft links should work across NFS mounts
[21:37] <jrib> kaya: well have you done anything related to a proxy?
[21:38] <Dr_willis> linux-ninja,  not really. I barely use nfs - askubuntu.com may have some others asking it.. Id guess its some nfs server setting. but its been ages since ive used nfs
[21:38] <kaya> Not really, 2 days ago I change a proxy in skype since it wasn't working anymore
[21:38] <RoyK> linux-ninja: symlinks across filesystems will not work with nfs
[21:38] <Dr_willis> if the soft links were relative id say yes.. but if not.. then id say they would break
[21:38] <indium> linux-ninja: it SHOULD NOT work
[21:38] <indium> this would pose a security issue
[21:39] <RoyK> Dr_willis: if on the same filesystem, and relative, yes, but not otherwise
[21:39] <Dr_willis> make a simple link and see. :)    ln -s foo bar   (in the same dir)
[21:39] <RoyK> that'll work
[21:40] <RoyK> but symlinking to another fs will not
[21:40] <indium> when you export a filesystem (part) over NFS, you don't want users to have access to other parts or file systems via symlinks
[21:40] <RoyK> indium: indeed
[21:40] <Dr_willis> http://docstore.mik.ua/orelly/networking_2ndEd/nfs/ch06_04.htm      NFS and SYmlinks. :)
[21:40] <brett2342> I'm attempting to install Ubuntu Server 12.04 LTS on my server that doesn't have a CDROM drive or internet access, so I'm attempting to install via USB. However, when I go through the installl I'm getting errors while installing openssh-server with aptitude. Could anyone give me advice on how to troubleshoot this?
[21:40] <worrow> is there a brightness hotkey fix for Asus K55A in Ubuntu 12.04??
[21:40] <kaya> Jrib; Not really, 2 days ago I change a proxy in skype since it wasn't working anymore
[21:41] <jrib> kaya: echo $http_proxy $ftp_proxy
[21:42] <jrib> brett2342: what errors?
[21:42] <jrib> brett2342: and how are you using aptitude during the install?
[21:43] <brett2342> jrib: using "manual selection" checkbox, because i need to install build0essentials too (ethernet driver not working on install)
[21:43] <brett2342> jrib: one sec, i'll try getting the exact error; it's hard to see because i can't scroll
[21:43] <jrib> brett2342: ok, so you're just assuming that's aptitude?  You're not actually calling aptitude yourself?
[21:43] <linux-ninja> indium, I do not understand. I got the same mount in another box and it works...
[21:44] <linux-ninja> using the same credentials and everything, what is the difference....
[21:44] <indium> hmmm: then that's security risk!
[21:44] <brett2342> jrib: well, yeah, not calling it myself, just thought that's what came up when you did "manual selection"
[21:45] <jrib> brett2342: ok.  So what can you see about the error?
[21:45] <brett2342> jrib: is there a way to scroll up? the error just scrolls by really fast and I can't page up to read it
[21:47] <kaya> jrib; can you explain briefly what you mean by that (I am still a beginner in ubuntu), I tried to copy it in dash home and firefox but nothing happend
[21:47] <linux-ninja> indium, what do you mean
[21:48] <worrow> is there a brghtness hotkey fix in ubuntu 12.04 it works but only lets me lower it to 90% minimum
[21:48] <Dr_willis> so you want to get the brightness below 10%?
[21:48] <worrow> below 90%
[21:49] <worrow> with the hotkeys
[21:49] <Jordan_U> linux-ninja: Please pastebin the contents of /proc/mounts and the output of "ls -l /path/to/symlink".
[21:49] <indium> linux-ninja: if you export some part of your file system, but you have symbolic links on that file system, pointing to other file systems (or other parts), then everybody that can mount your exported file system, has access to the other one.
[21:50] <Jordan_U> linux-ninja: My guess is that you're simply misunderstanding how symlinks work, but those details should confirm that.
[21:50] <worrow> I did add the extra ling in grub which didn't make any difference
[21:50] <Dr_willis> worrow,  perhaps some of the answeres here may help --> http://askubuntu.com/search?tab=votes&q=brightness%20control
[21:51] <indium> linux-ninja: I have to go.... good luck!
[21:51] <Guest25092> Hi, I have a question abou the TOS for the software centre.
[21:51] <Guest25092> "We may collect certain non-personally-identifiable information, which is located on your computer. The information collected may include statistics relating to the types of apps you download, how often you download apps, and which apps you download. You agree this information may be retained and used by Canonical. "
[21:51] <Dr_willis> worrow,  theres also ->   https://launchpad.net/~indicator-brightness/+archive/ppa
[21:51] <Guest25092> does this only appy to the software cenrtre
[21:51] <Guest25092> or is the command apt-get affected as wll
[21:52] <Siraris> I just enabled ssl on my Ubuntu web server, but when I navigate to https://mysite.com it says the page can't be loaded because it took too long to load
[21:52] <Guest25092> can use the Software center and turn it off?
[21:52] <Dr_willis> I would think just the software center - is how i read it.
[21:53] <Guest25092> Dr_willis: can i turn it off?
[21:53] <Guest25092> or do i have to turn it on?
[21:53] <Guest25092> in the privacy settoings, there's an option to turn sending anomnymous data to canonical
[21:54] <Guest25092> it this the same as software center, or is this a completely different thing?
[21:54] <Dr_willis> sounds like the same thing to me.
[21:55] <worrow> Dr_willis, in my backlight folder there are 2 other folders 1=asus-nb-wmi and 2- intel_backlight am I suppose to have 2?
[21:55] <Dr_willis> worrow,  no idea. i dont even use laptops any more.
[21:55] <worrow> So in my backlight folder there are 2 other folders 1=asus-nb-wmi and 2- intel_backlight am I suppose to have 2?
[21:56] <worrow> Dr_willis, I submitted to room
[21:56] <wilee-nilee> Guest25092, Turn it off in privacy and it is off.
[21:56] <Guest25092> wilee-nilee: for software center as well?
[21:57] <wilee-nilee>  Guest25092, Turn it off in privacy and it is off.
[21:57] <wilee-nilee> YES
[21:57] <Siraris> Anyone know how to configure HTTPS for apache?
[21:57] <Dr_willis> thats how i read it.. ;)
[21:57] <Dr_willis> why does it really matter. ;)
[21:58] <Guest25092> wilee-nilee: :D
[21:58]  * wilee-nilee thinks the bot needs a tinfoil hat comment
[21:58] <Guest25092> i hope ure right
[21:58] <Dr_willis> Guest25092,  and it really matters why exactly? If you are worried about it.. DONT use the software center
[21:59] <Dr_willis> Men In Black:  - ' Look! this one is downloading Wesnoth! he must be a Commie!'
[21:59] <Dr_willis> ;P
[21:59] <jablo> How long time should it take to run "unity --reset" on ubuntu 12.04 (+kxstudio)? It's been running for several minutes now but seems stuck... (I logged in now to lxde to see if it helps not running unity while reseting unity...).
[21:59] <Guest25092> Dr_willis: i dont want my information to get collected
[21:59] <Dr_willis> Guest25092,  and it matters because?
[21:59] <Guest25092> i want to use a gui
[21:59] <Dr_willis> !info synaptic | Guest25092
[22:00] <Dr_willis> I cant even rember the last time i used the 'software center'
[22:00] <Guest25092> Dr_willis: but software center is nicer
[22:00] <Guest25092> and eaiser
[22:00] <Dr_willis> actually i find it a lot WORSE and HARDER
[22:00] <Dr_willis> but do what you want. ;)
[22:01] <Guest25092> Dr_willis: i want the best of both worlds
[22:01] <Guest25092> :)
[22:01] <Dr_willis> then use them both..
[22:02] <Guest25092> Dr_willis: i want both the privacy and the nice UI
[22:02] <wilee-nilee> Dr_willis, Don't tell them about the backdoor.
[22:02] <arthurdent> where does the default dconf file live?
[22:03] <wilee-nilee> ;)
[22:03] <Dr_willis> or the super-secret mind controll interface.
[22:03] <Dr_willis> and the anti-tinfoil-hat beams.
[22:03] <Dr_willis> its anonymous.. so  you do have privacy.. but this is getting OT i imagine.
[22:04] <dodo1997> Hello, Whenever I am booting into ubuntu (After the loading screen), all that is displayed is a black/white checkerboard-like pattern and I have to force shutdown my computer, can anyone potentially help?
[22:04] <wilee-nilee> tinfoil just gets a better reception, a MIT research project showed this
[22:04] <Dr_willis> we got stainless steel foil at work.
[22:04] <Guest25092> Dr_willis: i dont want data leak from my pc
[22:04] <Dr_willis> Guest25092,  watever.. its gotten OT.. and pointless discussion.
[22:05] <loadid_czech> what happens if you control+alt+f1 does it drop you to a shell prompt
[22:05] <Dr_willis> i imagine your IRC client is leaking more info then the software center is.
[22:05] <wilee-nilee> always stay in touch with the mothership "they mean you no harm"
[22:05] <Guest25092> Dr_willis: nope, using FLOSS
[22:05] <Guest25092> and i know that freenode collects my data
[22:06] <Guest25092> and i agreed to that
[22:06] <Guest25092> i didnt know that software center did that, though
[22:06] <Guest25092> and i didnt agree to it either
[22:07] <dodo1997> Hello, Whenever I am booting into ubuntu (After the loading screen), all that is displayed is a black/white checkerboard-like pattern and I have to force shutdown my computer, can you guys help?
[22:07] <Dr_willis> !nomodeset | dodo1997
[22:07]  * wilee-nilee pulls out his copy of the Emperors new Clothes
[22:07] <loadid_czech> Guest25092: ^^
[22:08] <loadid_czech> whoops.. that was supposed to be a paste of the rules that fly by when you connect to the server.
[22:08] <Dr_willis> :)
[22:08] <loadid_czech> By connecting to freenode you indicate that you have read and agree to adhere to our policies and procedures as per the website (http://freenode.net/).
[22:09] <netlar> Is that the whole complaint against Ubunut is the privacy issue?
[22:09] <loadid_czech> blah blah blah... everything is logged yada yada
[22:09] <Guest25092> loadid_czech: and i did
[22:09] <blbef_> how can i automate 'write first line of a txt file in the file name of the same text file'?
[22:09] <dodo1997> Dr_willis, thanks!
[22:09] <Dr_willis> blbef_,  you want to rename the file to be the 'first' line of the file?
[22:10] <wilee-nilee> canonical is the least of the worries if one has any really.
[22:10] <blbef_> dr_willis, add to the existing name would be better
[22:10] <loadid_czech> did Dr. Evil tell you to say that Dr_willis?
[22:10] <Dr_willis> blbef_,  sounds like a job for 'awk'
[22:10] <netlar> Truely, Ubuntu is not evil, it is all so funny
[22:10] <loadid_czech> sounds like something he would have someone say
[22:10] <Guest25092> netlar: what i write here is what have chosen to share, by my own will
[22:10] <Dr_willis> blbef_,  or a bit of awk and a bit of bash.
[22:11] <wilee-nilee> freewill is an illusion
[22:11] <netlar> Or is it??
[22:11]  * Dr_willis watches it get more and more OT.
[22:11] <Guest25092> what im doing on my private system is my private life
[22:11] <pepper_chico> I got my first question answered =), any help here now? http://askubuntu.com/q/337663
[22:11] <Guest25092> why do i need to explain it?
[22:11] <wilee-nilee> anyway time for lunch, keep an eye on them DR
[22:11] <jrib> brett2342: /what
[22:11] <jrib> brett2342: ignore me
[22:11] <blbef_> dr_willis, i tried mv 'F:/1.txt' "'F:/1.txt'_$(cat 'F:/1.txt' | head -n1)" but with no success
[22:11] <jrib> kaya: run the command I gave in a terminal
[22:11] <Guest25092> i just wanted to know if the privacy settings affected software center as well
[22:12] <Dr_willis> blbef_,  f:/ ? where is f:/ comming from?
[22:12] <jrib> brett2342: why don't you proceed without installing openssh-server (and build-essential)? And then install them later?
[22:12] <netlar> Everyone should be transparent anyway
[22:13] <blbef_> dr_willis, at the moment i run it on cygwin
[22:13] <netlar> I mean literally. People should be see through.
[22:13] <Dr_willis> blbef_,  id try a more elaborate script then that. and be very carefull with spaces in filenames
[22:14] <brett2342> jrib:  haha ok, still working on getting that error again
[22:15] <blbef_> dr_willis, i have no further ideas, i tried different variations..
[22:15] <Dr_willis> blbef_,  theres the #bash channel. I imagine you can do it a dozen differnt ways
[22:16] <brett2342> jrib: oh, didn't see your second message there. i'll give that a try, see if it makes a difference. i was trying to do it all at once because i couldn't figure out how to install it from the USB source without internet access
[22:19] <jrib> brett2342: yeah, cross that bridge later.  I'm not sure those packages are available on the cd anyway. So it may be failing because it needs internet access
[22:19] <arooni-mobile> trying to install nginx on ubuntu 12.04;  i have previously installed from source in /opt/nginx when running an older version of ubuntu.  how can i install correctly?  when i do sudo apt-get install nginx i see this https://gist.github.com/arooni/d27e1b6cc6443fcf4a4b
[22:20] <netlar> There is a strange behavior that happens occasionally.  I have an '.exe' application that appears and will sometimes go away or I will need to reboot to remove it.  What could be causing that.  I do not even have wine installed
[22:20] <histo> arooni-mobile: wow that's busted pretty good. What version of ubuntu are you running?
[22:20] <Marble68> Hello all. OS: Ubuntu Server 12.10. Ubuntu / Linux skill level: low - I'm trying to learn how to build stuff. I started with apache HTTPD because it is pretty common. Does anyone have experience doing this with APR-UTIL with Mysql support? in the HTTPD channel, not many people can help me because I am on Ubuntu. Basically, everything but when APR-UTIL configures, it can't fine the mysql files. It says they're not in /usr/include or
[22:21] <Marble68> /usr/include/mysql even through they are there if I ls the folders or do a find * | grep mysql.h (or my_global.h or my.config.h)
[22:21] <Marble68> I'm a bit at a loss
[22:21] <histo> netlar: appears where?
[22:21] <Dr_willis> netlar,  some mono apps use the .exe extension also i recall
[22:21] <loadid_czech> maybe you have a mount problem arooni-mobile?
[22:21] <netlar> histo: in the launcher with Unity
[22:21] <jrib> !compile | Marble68
[22:21] <Dr_willis> netlar,  and some apps have their own wine included. like teamviewer. and others
[22:21] <netlar> Dr_willis: What is a mono app?
[22:21] <Dr_willis> !mono
[22:22] <Dr_willis> mono = .net  for linux i guess you can  say.
[22:22] <netlar> Dr_willis: did not know that some apps include wine
[22:22] <histo> netlar: not wine but mono
[22:22] <histo> two different things netlar
[22:22] <netlar> ok
[22:23] <netlar> But why would an app icon '.exe' show up in the launcher
[22:23] <histo> netlar: because you have some mono app installed and running most likely
[22:24] <netlar> histo: So a seperate icon shows up?
[22:25] <histo> netlar: We can only guess since you won't show us a screenshot or provide more info.
[22:25] <Guest94271> !list
[22:25] <ASHER1> I syndicate the following:
[22:25] <netlar> histo: Not happening at the moment, not even sure which app is the mono app
[22:25] <histo> netlar: dpkg -l | grep mono
[22:26] <brett2342> jrib: i recreated the usb drive and i'm getting a new error now: "There was a problme readind ata from the CD-ROM..." looks like i may have this problem: http://askubuntu.com/questions/127398/usb-drive-install-of-ubuntu-12-04-server-fails-cant-find-components-from-cd-r
[22:28] <netlar> A lot of libmono shows up
[22:28] <Dr_willis> tomboy is a mono app i recall
[22:30] <ForSpareParts> I've got a 12.04 guest (virtualbox/vagrant) inside a 13.04 host, and the guest is reseting all connections to a forwarded port. Is there a log I can check to see why that happens?
[22:31] <Siraris> Does anyknoe now how to get https setup on amazon AWS?
[22:31] <netlar> Not that big of a deal, I just do not like mysteries
[22:31] <Siraris> I've followed instructions to the T, but whenever I try to make an HTTPS request the site never responds
[22:33] <cjosephson> I'm using 12.04 and the projector is being treated as a second monitor
[22:33] <daftykins> Siraris: are you here because the cloud instance is ubuntu server?
[22:33] <cjosephson> I do not want that, I want to have the same thing on the screen as on the projector
[22:33] <Siraris> daftykins: Correct
[22:34] <Siraris> daftykins: 12.04 LTS
[22:34] <daftykins> Siraris: ok, likely a more appropriate place would be say, apache or nginx if that's your web server choice
[22:34] <ironfoot495> Hello I just installed 12.04 and I cANT GET APCHE2 LOClhost to display the files??
[22:34] <Siraris> daftykins: k
[22:34] <cjosephson> there is a likely looking fn key, but something eats it and presents a useless keyboard shortcut thing instead of a screen selector
[22:34] <ironfoot495> Can someone help me to fix this??
[22:34] <linux-ninja> I need to sync multiple directories from a server into a CIFS share, is there an easy way to do this besides rsync cli?
[22:35] <daftykins> !backup | linux-ninja
[22:35] <daftykins> ironfoot495: so you just installed Apache on a GUI desktop install and you're trying what?
[22:36] <linux-ninja> what do you guys use>?
[22:36] <ironfoot495> trying to get apache2 to display php files
[22:37] <daftykins> ironfoot495: got PHP installed and enabled?
[22:37] <somsip> linux-ninja: rsync for backing up multiple dirs to CIFS share :)
[22:37] <ironfoot495> yes I do.
[22:37] <daftykins> ironfoot495: i'm gonna recommend you hit up the fine apache folks in a channel of their own
[22:38] <ironfoot495> daftykins: been working on it all Day. what chaannel is that?
[22:38] <Marble68> jrib: Thanks. that helped, friend.
[22:38] <daftykins> ironfoot495: at a guess, #apache
[22:39] <iceroot_> ironfoot495: #httpd
[22:39] <ironfoot495> I dont have that file on this machine?
[22:40] <cjosephson> why is the "mirror display" option greyed out?
[22:40] <cjosephson> I desperately need it
[22:41] <iceroot_> ironfoot495: sudo apt-get install apache2 php5; sudo a2enmod php or sudo a2enmod php5 (dont know anymore)
[22:41] <Dr_willis> cjosephson,  depends on your video card/drivers and setup
[22:42] <Jordan_U> cjosephson: Please pastebin the output of "xrandr" and post a link to a screenshot of the display dialog.
[22:42] <cjosephson> Dr_willis: nvidia, defaily 12.04 setup
[22:42] <cjosephson> *deault
[22:43] <mango_> anyone know where I can find grub2 linux options
[22:43] <Jordan_U> cjosephson: No proprietary drivers have been installed?
[22:43] <Dr_willis> cjosephson,  you may need the actual nvidia drivers. I cant really recall ever using 2 monitors with  the open sourced nvidia drivers
[22:43] <cjosephson> I can use 2 monitors fine
[22:43] <Jordan_U> mango_: What type of options are you looking for? Different kernel parameters?
[22:43] <cjosephson> I did not install any proprietary drivers
[22:44] <cjosephson> Jordan_U, Dr_willis: xrandr http://pastebin.com/vMX7sJ0L
[22:44] <mango_> Jordan_U: maybe, if the options found in grub.conf
[22:44] <mango_> if - it's
[22:44] <Dr_willis> I definatly can clone, or use twinview/extended  here on my rather low end nvidia card with the nvidia drivers. I dont recall ever doing it  with the open sourced drivers.
[22:45] <mango_> e.g. ro splash quiet nomodeset etc.
[22:46] <Jordan_U> mango_: Nothing is found in grub.conf. You should change grub options in /etc/default/grub, then run "sudo update-grub" which updates /boot/grub/grub.cfg (not .conf). https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/KernelBootParameters
[22:46] <cjosephson> Dr_willis, Jordan_U: screenshot http://imgur.com/7Srk0V4
[22:46] <cjosephson> I need to have it on the same screen so I can present
[22:47] <mango_> Jordan_U: ok I will take a look
[22:47] <mango_> Jordan_U: Are you saying updating /boot/grub/grub.cfg makes no difference?
[22:48] <Jordan_U> mango_: You shouldn't manually edit /boot/grub/grub.cfg as your changes will be lost at the next kernel upgrade (unless you want to disable automatic updating of the grub.cfg entirely, which I don't recommend).
[22:49] <mango_> Jordan_U: ok, thanks.
[22:50] <linu> sup
[22:50] <cjosephson> OK, apparenly there are no matching resolutions
[22:50] <cjosephson> xrandr claims my screen only supports 1600x900, which is absurd
[22:50] <Jordan_U> mango_: You're welcome.
[22:50] <linu> what does it support ?
[22:51] <mango_> Jordan_U: problem I'm trying to solve is here;  http://askubuntu.com/questions/337644/grub2-doesnt-load-screen-only-when-i-shift-into-grub2-menu
[22:51] <cjosephson> it should be able to support several fallback resolitions like 1280x1024
[22:51] <cjosephson> even if black bars are necessary
[22:52] <Jordan_U> mango_: Next time that would be the type of thing you should mention first.
[22:53] <mango_> Jordan_U: Sure.
[22:53] <leeping> Hi there, I'm using 12.04 LTS.  I'm trying to kill the X server so I can reinstall my NVidia drivers.  However, my Ctrl+Alt+F1 key is not bringing me to the (non-X) terminal.
[22:54] <leeping> How can I drop to the terminal and kill X?
[22:54] <daftykins> leeping: you really don't want to be installing nvidia drivers manually like that
[22:54] <leeping> daftykins, I do.
[22:54] <daftykins> why not use the package?
[22:54] <leeping> daftykins, the package is not new enough to be compatible with CUDA 5.5.
[22:54] <daftykins> i see
[22:54] <daftykins> none of your TTYs work?
[22:54] <linu> are you pressing it right leeping
[22:54] <linu> press control and alt
[22:54] <leeping> daftykins, none of ctrl+alt+f[1-6] work.
[22:55] <linu> then hold down F!
[22:55] <linu> F1
[22:55] <linu> try F3 too
[22:55] <FloodBot1> linu: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:55] <leeping> linu, none of them work.
[22:57] <mango_> Jordan_U: Any ideas would be appreciated, but I've been here for two days, so I'm expecting any answers.
[22:57] <mango_> I'm not expecting I mean*
[22:58] <brett2342> jrib: no problems installing this time, may need help with getting my ethernet going w/out build-essentials
[22:59] <brett2342> brett
[23:00] <usr13> mango_: To ____________ ?
[23:01] <mango_> Jordan_U: problem I'm trying to solve is here;  http://askubuntu.com/questions/337644/grub2-doesnt-load-screen-only-when-i-shift-into-grub2-menu
[23:05] <cj> wow that's a lot of nicks
[23:05] <OerHeks> mango_, after pressing shift to get into grub, does your ubuntu properly load?
[23:05] <mango_> yes
[23:05] <cj> so, I'm trying to pxe boot a system and my kernel panics after trying to load the initrd
[23:05] <cjosephson> agh
[23:05] <mango_> OerHeks: yes.
[23:06] <cj> this is on the 3.5.0-23-generic kernel
[23:06] <cjosephson> this stupid stupid sytem can't get me anything except 1600x9000
[23:06] <cjosephson> *1600x900
[23:06] <ziadingo> hi
[23:06] <cj> cjosephson: that sounds like a lot more than 80x25
[23:06] <cjosephson> so now it can mirror but a large portion is cut off on the projector
[23:07] <stirnwer> cj, what is the specific kernel panic message?
[23:07] <Sach> How do I install bleeding edge for precise?
[23:08] <cjosephson> and there are a few threads
[23:08] <RoyK> Sach: update to 13.04? or use a ppa?
[23:08] <Sach> RoyK: which ppa?
[23:08] <cjosephson> and it looks like NOBODY has gotten their screen to have more options than 1600x900
[23:08] <RoyK> Sach: depends what you want
[23:09] <Sach> RoyK: I want bleeding edge
[23:09] <mango_> OerHeks: but when I don't press shift - it doesn't load at all, well it does, just no screen, this is evident when see the Xorg.0.log logs I posted.
[23:09] <RoyK> Sach: then upgrade to 13.04
[23:09] <RoyK> Sach: you won't get the bleeding edge with an LTS release
[23:09] <Sach> RoyK: ok, thanks.
[23:10] <ziadingo> hi, i want to install xampp but needs super user, how do it?
[23:10] <iceroot_> ziadingo: dont install xampp
[23:10] <RoyK> Sach: edit /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades to allow normal upgrades and run do-release-upgrade
[23:10] <iceroot_> ziadingo: use a real lamp installation instead
[23:10] <ziadingo> :( xampp have alternative?
[23:10] <iceroot_> ziadingo: sudo apt-get install apache2 mysql-server php5
[23:10] <RoyK> Sach: that'll tak you to 12.10, then once more to take you to 13.04
[23:10] <Sach> RoyK: is that for 13.04?
[23:11] <iceroot_> ziadingo: xampp is a very bad alternative to a real lamp system
[23:11] <brett2342> jrib: ok, got it all installed. now, ifconfig shows just local loopback, no eth0.
[23:11] <RoyK> Sach: then run it again with the -d flag to take you to the 13.10 alpha
[23:11] <Sach> RoyK: ok thanks.  But it seems that 13.04 doesnt like my laptop.  I tried it out last night.
[23:11] <ziadingo> thx, i try this
[23:11] <jrib> brett2342: you said you needed to build something for your network?  What? Why?
[23:11] <cj> stirnwer: moment
[23:11] <RoyK> Sach: what issues?
[23:12] <cj> [    1.301635] NULL pointer dereference at 0000000000000008
[23:12] <cj> [    1.307758] IP: [<ffffffff811b06f0>] __mark_inode_dirty+0x1f0/0x2a0
[23:12] <brett2342> jrib: so for some reason, ubuntu doesn't detect my ethernet controller, so i had to install/build driver manually last time
[23:12] <RoyK> cj: panic?
[23:12] <cj> [    1.316996] Oops: 0002 [#1] SMP
[23:12] <Sach> RoyK: Mostly that it doesn't restart (just freezes), setting up my broadcom wireless driver is not user friendly)
[23:13] <cj> RoyK: oops sounds like a panic to me
[23:13] <jrib> brett2342: so you want to do that again?
[23:13] <RoyK> cj: you'll know if it were a panic ;)
[23:13] <brett2342> jrib: yeah, i'll just have to get build-essentials installed without internet access, which i'm not sure how to do
[23:13] <jrib> !offline | brett2342
[23:14] <jrib> brett2342: if you don't mind resolving deps yourself, you can also grab them from http://packages.ubuntu.com
[23:14] <cj> RoyK: well, I got a stack trace and the watchdog says I got a hard lockup.  sounds like a panic.
[23:14] <RoyK> Sach: perhaps 13.10 might be better
[23:14] <brett2342> jrib: ok, i'll give this a try. i'm not sure how to resolve dependents myself. would the first link be best?
[23:17] <usr13> brett2342: apt-cache showpkg package-name  will list dependencies
[23:17] <brett2342> jrib: "unable to locate package build-essential"
[23:17] <brett2342> jrib: could i just download and install from here: http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/build-essential ?
[23:19] <daguilar> hello
[23:19] <daguilar> I have some issue with the booting
[23:19] <RoyK> !ask | daguilar
[23:20] <daguilar> !ask
[23:21] <daguilar> Ok, there's one thing with the booting, sometimes at random occasions the boot fails, after GRUB, it shows only a _ as prompt and it remains indefinitely, I've let pass up to an hour, and best I could do was to wait for a while and try again until I get it to load. I blame it to a line: [ 0. .... ]Booting Node 0, Processors #1
[23:22] <daguilar> I already updated BIOS, but there's something I think it might be the issue and that's the Hyperthreading, I had disabled it after BIOS update and it stopped happening, now I enabled it for installing a 64 bits OS in VMWare Player and it happened again.
[23:23] <jrib> brett2342: you can either follow one of the methods ubottu suggested or you can download debs yourself.  But you can't just download build-essential, you need to also download any dependencies listed there that you don't need.
[23:24] <ziadingo> i am istall apache php mysql,  how i cand find public_html folder?
[23:24] <cj> well, it looks like using the 3.2.0-49 kernel fixes the boot problem
[23:24] <daguilar> ziadingo, go to /var/www
[23:25] <daguilar> cj, so whenever I start GRUB I should pick such kernel? Or updating it?
[23:25] <brett2342> jrib: could you help me figure out hwo to use the link from ubottu? i choose AMD64, Precise, and "build-essential" but it doesn't result anything; not sure what i'd put in the meta package textbox
[23:25] <jrib> brett2342: ubuntu-desktop
[23:25] <ziadingo> thx, i am find, but there i dont create new folder or file :(
[23:26] <josh_> hi
[23:26] <josh_> any body here
[23:26] <jrib> brett2342: are you on precise?
[23:26] <brett2342> jrib: it says "There is no such package in Precise" for "build-essential" -- this is the package i'd use, right?
[23:26] <brett2342> jrib: 12.04 Server, yes
[23:27] <jrib> brett2342: then try a different method; that page probably isn't up to date
[23:27] <brett2342> jrib: ok
[23:27] <brett2342> !APTonCD
[23:30] <brett2342> jrib: can't do the other method b/c i don't have another linux based computer. i think i found a windows based apt though, i'll give that a go
[23:31] <iverson0881> hello, i have an ip alias (i believ that's what it is called) it only shows up in ip addr show eth0 and not in ifconfig….
[23:31] <iverson0881> anyway i believe i need to add a static route on the secondary IP that the interface has. how can this be done?
[23:31] <iverson0881> the primary ip of the interface works fine with the static route*
[23:31] <wilee-nilee> daguilar, YOu have to update-grub to add
[23:33] <visualise> teaaaaa
[23:34] <mango_> is there anyway of avoiding grub2
[23:35] <reisio> mango_: so many ways
[23:37] <andrej> Is there a way to stop UFW from logging certain events?  I don't need dmesg, kern.log and syslog hammered by notifications of anycasts or certain protocol types being dropped
[23:38] <andrej> I don't want all logging gone, just two or three frequent types
[23:38] <reisio> if it doesn't have built-in options, you can find wherever its logging bits are and pipe them through a grep
[23:38] <daguilar> wilee-nilee, what's the proper way of doing kernel updating?
[23:39] <LavaLevel> I <3 WINDOWS VISTA!!!!
[23:39] <BadK1tty> eewww
[23:39] <wilee-nilee> daguilar, In grub or in general?
[23:39] <andrej> reisio - was that response aimed at me?
[23:39] <reisio> andrej: yup
[23:40] <andrej> If it was it was orthogonal to my question
[23:40] <andrej> I don't want the stuff logged, not not to see it in the logs
[23:40] <Jrizzlin> So Im using Windows and all my software and hardware work great and I was wondering if you guys are jealous?
[23:40] <andrej> They fill up too fast
[23:40] <reisio> andrej: right, you can grep it as it's logged, most likely
[23:40] <goguda> Jrizzlin: Is your system also slow and buggy??? ;)
[23:40] <reisio> Jrizzlin: so jealous
[23:40] <Jrizzlin> No, 2 gigs of ram and it runs like a dream
[23:41] <wilee-nilee> Jrizzlin, No, many of us dual boot many OS, and use them when appropriate.
[23:41] <reisio> I lay awake, upset at my choice to use the OS that supports more hardware than any other :)
[23:41] <daftykins> reisio: there are pills for that
[23:41] <reisio> daftykins: don't I know it :)
[23:41] <daftykins> d'aww
[23:41] <daguilar> wilee-nilee in general
[23:42] <Jrizzlin> So When is unix appropriate? Thats the same thing as ubunto right?
[23:42] <reisio> Jrizzlin: close enough
[23:42] <reisio> Jrizzlin: I'd say always
[23:42] <goguda> Jrizzlin: Ubuntu is linux. Linux is a unix clone.
[23:42] <Jrizzlin> So what's Windows and whys it work so much better?
[23:43] <reisio> Jrizzlin: windows is another os, and it doesn't :)
[23:43] <RoyK> goguda: linux *was* a unix clone...
[23:43] <RoyK> some 30 years ago
[23:43] <goguda> RoyK: True... I guess it's kinda gone off in its own direction now
[23:44] <wilee-nilee> daguilar, sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade dist-upgrade is the key
[23:44] <RoyK> biggest unix-like system on the planet
[23:44] <reisio> was, is...
[23:44] <wilee-nilee> daguilar, The update manager will update kernels too.
[23:44] <xatr0z> unix is for old bearded people.
[23:44] <goguda> Jrizzlin: WIndows doesn't work better. It's just easier to get running most of the time.
[23:45] <reisio> xatr0z: no shortage of those
[23:45] <RoyK> xatr0z: not really - systems like aix or solaris are still very good
[23:45] <reisio> goguda: is it? :p
[23:45] <daftykins> you guys really ought not to feed the troll
[23:45] <wilee-nilee> big bucks for unix admins
[23:45] <reisio> goguda: I s'pose if having someone else install it counts, heh
[23:45] <goguda> daftykins: trolls are fun
[23:45] <andrej> goguda - not in my experience.  it's *easy* when it comes preinstalled on your hardware
[23:45] <xatr0z> was meant to be funny, not trolling :)
[23:46] <dw5304> im having difficulties trying to get a on air usb hdtv creater pro to detect in ubuntu 12.04 anyone able to give me a hand?
[23:46] <Jrizzlin> Have you ever used machine code?
[23:46] <goguda> andrej: True. If you want to reinstall it can be a disaster
[23:46] <daguilar> wilee-nilee, if I'm using Ubuntu LTS
[23:46] <daguilar> and I do the dist upgrade
[23:46] <daguilar> wouldnt it update me to another version¡
[23:46] <daguilar> wilee-nilee
[23:46] <daguilar> ?
[23:46] <RoyK> dist-upgrade doesn't take you to another release
[23:46] <RoyK> do-release-upgrade does
[23:46] <wilee-nilee> !dist-upgrade | daguilar
[23:47] <xatr0z> dw5304: you could try opening a terminal and type lsusb to find out the code, you can then google that for people with the exact same product
[23:47] <dw5304> thats part of the issue xatroz i have
[23:49] <zipper> I'm having trouble installing the tor-browser on kubuntu 12.04
[23:49] <xatr0z> dw5304: by 'the code' i meant the device ID. But please explain why thats part of the issue, can you find the device in the output from lsusb?
[23:50] <Chaser> Weird. When I chose to download 64bit 12.04.3 LTS from ubuntu.com it still downloads i386 iso. I was expecting amd64. Have I lost my mind ?
[23:50] <zipper> I get the following error http://pastebin.com/FxrNNXPm
[23:50] <dw5304> device id is Bus 002 Device 008: ID 11ba:1003
[23:50] <daftykins> zipper: hey mate, tried "sudo dpkg-reconfigure unzip:i386" ?
[23:51] <daftykins> zipper: may i also point out the irony in 'zipper' having an issue with 'unzip' :>
[23:52] <shaneH> i have a server on the network but cant connect to it using pynaberhood making a webdev folder to acces my owncloud files on this computer  but i can connect to it by a web brouser if i enter the url
[23:52] <dw5304> dmesg says it loads but its missing all the qam stuff
[23:52] <wilee-nilee> zipper, YOu can download the tor browser from them unpack it and not even run it in root, thats what I would do.
[23:52] <Chaser> Ubuntu download page is messed up.
[23:52] <wilee-nilee> from a root install that is
[23:52] <reisio> Chaser: how so?
[23:52] <dw5304> xatr0z:went looking for the firmware but have been unable to find anything of relivance
[23:53] <xatr0z> dw5304: some debian page mentiosn this device id and that it should work with the driver pvrusb2
[23:53] <reisio> Chaser: http://mirror.clibre.uqam.ca/ubuntu-releases/
[23:53] <Chaser> reisio: So I go to www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop. Select 64-bit from the drop down menu "Choose your flavor" it still download i386 version of the iso
[23:54] <dw5304> xatr0z: it is not working across the board
[23:55] <Chaser> reisio: Thanks, started downloading it from releases.ubuntu.com though.
[23:55] <BadK1tty> crap i found this vid dude had a window manager made his desktop look like the predator now i can't find the damn file
[23:55] <zipper> daftykins: uh that didn't have any actual output
[23:55] <reisio> Chaser: not over here, maybe it has some backend magic that failed for you, though
[23:55] <zipper> daftykins: I tried an -f install and that didn't seem to work right
[23:55] <Chaser> reisio: so you have tried ? And it downloads amd64 version for you ?
[23:55] <reisio> Chaser: ffr you can get a geographically close mirror from https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+cdmirrors
[23:56] <reisio> Chaser: yup
[23:56] <reisio> Chaser: it's possible they're randomly picking mirrors server-side, though
[23:56] <reisio> or even based on location
[23:56] <Chaser> reisio: ok cool, very weird though.
[23:56] <reisio> so it could conceivably be a single mirror's issue
[23:56] <reisio> yeah, definitely a bug if it happened :)
[23:57] <xatr0z> dw5304: are you using pvrusb2 already? there is a guide here, but it could be very outdated http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=159989
[23:58] <dw5304> xatr0z:49] pvrusb2: Hardware description: OnAir Creator Hybrid USB tuner [ 4420.670580] saa7115 0-0021: saa7115 found (1f711
[23:58] <dw5304> is being detected in dmesg
[23:58] <xatr0z> ok
[23:58] <charles_> test
[23:58] <dw5304> but channles and the qam's dont work
[23:59] <histo> BadK1tty: gnome-look.org ??
[23:59] <Chaser> reisio: I tried from my home PC (was doing from work) - its  downloading 64bit.
[23:59] <BadK1tty> not sure i was rooting around i think on omg ubuntu
[23:59] <xatr0z> dw5304: im affraid i cant find anything, maybe someone else knows more about this
[23:59] <BadK1tty> he did have a bottom docky
[23:59] <reisio> Chaser: <shrug>