[03:02] <bluesabre> micahg: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/catfish/+bug/1216741
[03:02] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1216741 in catfish (Ubuntu) "Please update catfish on saucy to 0.8.0" [Undecided,Confirmed]
[03:03] <bluesabre> Please let me know if you need additional details.
[04:15] <micahg> bluesabre: can I get a Debian dir debdiff?
[04:16] <micahg> bluesabre: also, your changelog doesn't log all the debian/control changes
[10:20] <bluesabre> micahg: debian is out of date, I have a sponsored package sitting on mentors for 0.6.4 that has gone ignored, didn't know if you wanted to get this into xubuntu before FF because debian might take a while.  Going to get 0.8.0 onto mentors tonight most likely.  Will also update with the additional debian/control changes
[10:28] <knome> bluesabre, re: what?
[10:28] <bluesabre> knome: ?
[10:28] <ochosi> :D
[10:29] <knome> bluesabre, 0.6.4, 0.8.0 ?
[10:29] <ochosi> catfish
[10:29] <knome> :P
[10:29] <knome> okay
[10:29] <bluesabre> stable -> stable
[10:29] <knome> yeah, wondering about *what* it was about
[10:29] <bluesabre> ah
[10:29] <ochosi> bluesabre: btw, catfish really really rocks...
[10:29]  * knome read "sucks" :P
[10:29] <bluesabre> lol
[10:29] <ochosi> making a simple xfce-panel-plugin for that would be awesome
[10:30] <bluesabre> (and not so simple most likely)
[10:30] <ochosi> possible, no idea how easy it is to run an app without decoration and position it accordingly
[10:31] <bluesabre> not too difficult
[10:32] <ochosi> anyway, let's first finalize parole
[10:49] <bluesabre> micahg: just uploaded a new debdiff with better changelog
[10:56] <elfy> anyone got any idea what's going on with indicator-sound - will it get fixed before we release 13.10 that is - seems a bit silly to have something in the panel with one working indicator in it
[10:56] <bluesabre> not sure, last comment seemed like they were working on it, but the workaround was sufficient.  Should we just ship that workaround?
[10:57] <elfy> I guess if we have to do that we will have to
[10:58] <bluesabre> its a bug, so we can ship the fix later in the game if needed
[10:59] <elfy> yep
[10:59] <knome> hey elfy 
[10:59] <elfy> hi knome 
[10:59] <bluesabre> knome, micahg: for reference: https://bugs.launchpad.net/indicator-sound/+bug/1208204
[10:59] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1208204 in indicator-sound (Ubuntu) "indicator-sound no longer functions with xfce4-indicator-plugin" [Low,Triaged]
[10:59] <knome> aha
[10:59] <knome> bluesabre, want me to fix it?
[10:59]  * knome ROFL
[10:59] <bluesabre> yes
[10:59] <knome> haha
[11:00] <bluesabre> :D
[11:00] <knome> expect a patch to land in september
[11:00] <knome> 2023
[11:00] <bluesabre> sounds legit
[11:00] <elfy> I never understand how they mark duplicates - how is it that the bug I reported is a duplicate of one that go reported later
[11:01] <elfy> but it is launchpad :p
[11:02] <knome> elfy, see the right-hand side sidebar in LP
[11:02] <knome> elfy, "Mark as duplicate"
[11:03] <knome> elfy, (bit above the duplicates list)
[11:03] <bluesabre> better write a blog post about that knome
[11:03] <knome> bluesabre, hah
[11:03] <knome> bluesabre, you think? :P
[11:03] <elfy> knome: I'm not that worried about it :)
[11:03] <bluesabre> definitely
[11:03] <knome> ha
[11:03] <knome> elfy, well good to know anyway
[11:04] <elfy> yea - I'd never noticed that beforehand :)
[11:04] <knome> the thing that bothers me a bit about launchpad is that some features can't be done "both ways"
[11:04] <knome> eg the duplicates
[11:05] <knome> you have to go to the bug that is the duplicate
[11:05] <knome> there is no way to go to the "main bug" and mark any bug a duplicate of that
[11:05] <knome> same was for linking bugs to branches, which is even more weird
[11:07] <bluesabre> for duplicates, that makes sense to me
[11:07] <knome> kind of...
[11:07] <bluesabre> almost forces you to read the bug description
[11:07] <knome> :P
[11:07] <knome> but the branches stuff was weirder
[11:07] <bluesabre> for linking to branches, yeah, I agree there should be a way to do it from the branch
[11:08] <knome> also because you have to type the branch name rather than type a bug number
[12:47] <ochosi> elfy: indicator-application isn't only for one app, it's for all apps that use indicators but don't have a separate package for it. iirc pidgin uses that (but as i don't use pidgin i wouldn't know for sure)
[12:47] <ochosi> but i agree that the sound indicator needs to be fixed
[12:47] <ochosi> it's one of the more useful ones
[12:47] <elfy> ochosi: add by default showing on elfy's panel then :p
[12:48] <elfy> pidgin doesn't show up there by the way
[12:49] <ochosi> aha
[12:49] <ochosi> i think it used to
[12:49] <ochosi> does it use a trayicon now?
[12:49] <ochosi> guess you better ask a pidgin user (like bluesabre)
[12:50] <elfy> I just booted it - doesn't show up anywhere here
[12:50] <elfy> but that's all beside the point, I was more worried about the sound indicator being broken - but bluesabre put my mind at restr
[16:08] <GridCube> knome, i've updated the wiki you made with the desktop of the week proposals
[17:49] <ochosi>  \o/ gtk3 indicators are working in my panel!
[17:49] <ochosi> (and it's a gtk2 xfce panel)
[17:50] <ochosi> knome, micahg, bluesabre, mr_pouit ^
[17:52] <elfy> I assume that's good then ... 
[18:01] <ochosi> it's extremely good :)
[18:01] <pleia2> \o/
[18:02] <elfy> :)
[18:06] <ochosi> we'll see whether it's too late for 13.10 and what micahg thinks about it
[20:11] <knome> ochosi, :)
[20:22] <ochosi> knome: got a working messaging-menu again :)
[20:22] <knome> good
[20:22] <elfy> ochosi: woohoo :)
[21:26] <ochosi> it seems the indicators would only look fine with our themes (as they'd require extra theme patches)
[21:26] <ochosi> that's the price we have to be willing to pay if we want gtk3 indicators in our gtk2 panel
[21:27] <ochosi> micahg, bluesabre, knome ^
[21:27] <knome> yep, but since the patch would be pretty much xubuntu-specific as well, i don't think that's a huge con
[21:27] <ochosi> yup, there's some truth to that
[21:31] <Unit193> Just have to know that not all users use stock, but broken vs working, I'd sure take working.  How bad would it look unpatched?  (And I'm guessing it's something I can copy too. ;) )
[21:32] <ochosi> it's just an additional .css file that you have to adjust and add to your include-list
[21:33] <GridCube> !es
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[21:34] <GridCube> ok
[21:34] <ochosi> Unit193: we could add it to an FAQ and blog about it
[21:35] <Unit193> GridCube: It just needs to be dropped, so it'll change when someone changes !es
[21:35] <Unit193> ochosi: Sure.
[21:36] <GridCube> Unit193, yes, i dont know how to do that tho