[19:24] <dtrask> I have a question about a "phantom" lxc container showing up on my Edubuntu 12.04 server....it's introducing wonkiness into my network....and I have no real idea where it came from
[19:24] <dtrask> how do I keep it from starting?  Any ideas?  I have a container called lxcbr   It has an IP address....and it's making it so any machine in the 10.0.3.x range cannot ssh or even ping the server...the lxcbr interface has an IP of 10.0.3.1   I never set anything like that up....I can't see how it got there...however...there is evidence of lxc doing something when I ran the last update on 8/12  according to dpkg.log
[19:25] <dtrask> if I force lxcbr down (ifdown) I can then connect...however it restarts on reboot....I need to disable it...I can't see that it actually is doing anything
[19:25] <stgraber> dtrask: lxcbr0 isn't a container, it's just a bridge created for containers
[19:25] <stgraber> dtrask: it's configurable in /etc/default/lxc
[19:25] <dtrask> do I need it?
[19:26] <stgraber> dtrask: not unless you use arkose (which we ship by default and is the reason why lxcbr0 is there)
[19:26] <stgraber> dtrask: so you can either disable it in /etc/default/lxc or remove lxc and all the packages it takes along with it
[19:26] <dtrask> somehow it got the IP address 10.0.3.1....it's preventing my machines that are 10.0.3.x from being able to ping or ssh into the server...it's f**king pissing me off!
[19:27] <stgraber> yeah, it uses 10.0.3.0/24 as it's default subnet
[19:27] <dtrask> BTW how are you?  and where are you now?
[19:27] <stgraber> and can indeed be a bit of a problem when you happen to use the same network for internet access :)
[19:27] <stgraber> (the subnet is also configurable in /etc/default/lxc)
[19:27] <stgraber> I'm good, thanks. Currently at home in Montreal, though only came back there last week. I was in Europe for a month before that.
[19:27] <dtrask> will I break anything by doing so?  What exactly is it needed for?
[19:28] <dtrask> I was unsure what happened to you...I heard Revolution went "belly up"?
[19:29] <stgraber> oh yeah, but I left for Canonical way before that happened, I've been working there since April 2011
[19:29] <dtrask> coolness!
[19:29] <stgraber> dtrask: if you don't use lxc or arkose, you don't need lxc and if you don't know if you're using either of those, then you're not.
[19:29] <dtrask> so...will I break anything by changing the subnet?  OR...is it possible or wise to turn it off?  If so what is the best method?
[19:31] <dtrask> can I set LXC_AUTO=FALSE or does that break stuff?
[19:31] <stgraber> changing the subnet is fine and will work even if you use those tools one day (I believe we've got code to figure out conflicts and do that automatically in later versions), turning it off will be fine too so long as you don't use lxc (which you're unlikely to do)
[19:31] <dtrask> I'm running Edubuntu 12.04 btw
[19:31] <stgraber> I think it's USE_LXC_BRIDGE you want to change
[19:31] <stgraber> set that to false and reboot, lxcbr0 should be gone then
[19:32] <dtrask> local apps doesn't use this at all does it?
[19:32] <stgraber> nope
[19:33] <dtrask> so setting USE_LXC_BRIDGE="false" should do it?  Do I need to set LXC_AUTO="false" as well?  Or leave that one alone?
[19:34] <stgraber> nope, just set USE_LXC_BRIDGE to false, no need to touch LXC_AUTO
[19:35] <dtrask> thx....you da man!
[19:36] <dtrask> you going to BTS this year?
[19:36] <dtrask> hope to see you there
[19:36] <dtrask> I was googling lxc stuff and your name came up a lot...so I figured I'd jump on here and go to the source.
[19:37] <stgraber> I sure hope to make it to BTS. It's not confirmed yet though because of other company travel...
[19:37] <dtrask> BTS is FAR more important
[20:22] <stgraber> highvoltage: finally got around to uploading edubuntu-server to the archive
[20:23] <highvoltage> stgraber: oh cool
[20:23] <highvoltage> stgraber: what does it contain?
[20:24] <highvoltage> I'm flipping between going to BTS and not. it's right when I'm moving into my place and I'll have a lot to do around that time.
[20:27] <stgraber> highvoltage: it's basically what we had in the branch with all pyflakes/pyflakes3/pep8 and lintian warnings fixed. I also clarified the licensing a bit and added some headers here and there.
[20:27] <stgraber> highvoltage: I very much doubt it'll work at all, but the easiest way to test it is to have it in the archive
[20:27] <highvoltage> stgraber: ah, awesome.
[20:28] <stgraber> I fixed an obvious problem in the directory setup script but I doubt that'll be enough to get it working perfectly
[20:28] <highvoltage> stgraber: yep, nice that it's in there. I took thursday/friday off and towards friday I'll probably fire up some 13.10 isos and start poking around
[20:28] <stgraber> but the source package itself has been in uploadable state for a while, so there was no good reason not to get that in before FF