[00:18] <jono> mhall119, around?
[00:19] <mhall119> jono: finishing dinner, what's up?
[00:19] <jono> mhall119, can you reddit http://www.jonobacon.org/2013/08/27/ubuntu-in-a-nutshell-unity-and-convergence/ :-)
[00:19] <mhall119> ok
[00:19] <jono> when you get a sec
[00:19] <jono> thanks, pal
[00:19]  * mhall119 was just reading it :)
[00:20]  * jose goes
[00:22] <mhall119> jose: I wasn't even done reading it yet :-P
[00:22] <jose> :P
[00:22] <jose> I read very quickly
[00:23] <jono> mhall119, :-)
[05:35] <Tm_T> good morning community
[13:48] <jcastro> hey balloons
[13:49] <smartboyhw> Oh, we are starting vUDS soon right/
[13:49] <jcastro> any idea if power management for Mir is coming sooner rather than later?
[13:49] <jcastro> I want to test Mir but losing power management is kind of a deal breaker for me
[13:49]  * smartboyhw recommends jcastro to ask in #ubuntu-mire
[13:49] <smartboyhw> #ubuntu-mir
[13:49] <jcastro> bah
[13:49] <jcastro> I prefer my own personal valet
[13:50] <smartboyhw> jcastro, nice;P
[13:50] <jussi> hehe
[13:50] <jussi> #ubuntu-mire
[13:50] <jussi> is that where we go to get mired in long pointless discussions?
[13:50] <smartboyhw> jussi, good question...
[13:58] <balloons> hey jcastro
[13:58] <smartboyhw> Hey balloons
[13:59] <jcastro> hey balloons
[13:59]  * smartboyhw beats jcastro to it:)
[14:00] <balloons> time to join all the rooms :-)
[14:00] <smartboyhw> balloons, holy, Community Roundtable crashes with Community testing
[14:28] <smartboyhw> balloons, do a test hangout with me
[14:28] <balloons> ohh
[14:28] <balloons> smartboyhw, ohh
[14:29] <smartboyhw> balloons, can you hear me?
[14:30] <smartboyhw> No.
[14:33] <smartboyhw> balloons, Hangout sucks:(
[14:33] <balloons> smartboyhw, there is a gear in the upper right that lets you select the input device
[14:33] <smartboyhw> balloons, I know
[14:33] <smartboyhw> It doesn't work
[14:34] <smartboyhw> I did try to use earphones once
[14:34] <smartboyhw> (On Mumble)
[14:34] <smartboyhw> It worked
[14:35] <balloons> right.. it must be unamplified or something. a proper microphone would be helpful
[14:39] <smartboyhw> balloons, no microphone here:(
[14:40] <balloons> I'm just surprised it doesn't work with your internal mic
[14:40] <smartboyhw> balloons, no it doesn't
[14:44] <smartboyhw> Sigh, can't join:(
[14:45] <balloons> smartboyhw, so your laptop has an internal mic, but it doesn't work.. or it doesn't have an internal mic?
[14:46] <balloons> you also might need to select an input device and make sure it's not muted, etc in the pulseaudio panel
[14:46] <smartboyhw> balloons, it should have a internal mic
[14:46] <balloons> smartboyhw, check to make sure it's not muted as well with alsamixer
[14:46] <smartboyhw> balloons, it isn't
[14:47] <balloons> all input is unmuted, etc? sometimes alsamixer will reveal things the gui panel doesn't
[14:47] <smartboyhw> balloons, no
[14:48] <smartboyhw> I mean, not muted
[14:48] <smartboyhw> Wait, my MIc IS muted
[14:48] <smartboyhw> DAMN
[14:48] <smartboyhw> balloons, starting another one with you?
[14:49] <smartboyhw> YAY!
[14:49]  * smartboyhw hugs balloons 
[14:49] <balloons> smartboyhw, :-p
[14:50]  * smartboyhw can finally participate in vUDS this year
[14:50] <smartboyhw> :)
[15:11] <jono> roundtable session happening now: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1308/meeting/21900/community-roundtable-tue/
[15:13] <dholbach> we're hanging out in #ubuntu-uds-community-1
[15:29] <smartboyhw> martboyhwubuntu.wordpress.com/2013/08/27/google-please-let-me-join-vuds/
[15:29] <smartboyhw> *smartboyhwubuntu.wordpress.com/2013/08/27/google-please-let-me-join-vuds/
[15:29] <smartboyhw> Have to write this
[15:40] <popey> smartboyhw: lie about your age ☻
[15:40] <IdleOne> yeah, that is the solution
[15:40] <smartboyhw> popey, uh hum
[15:40] <smartboyhw> I don't lie in my email account
[15:41] <IdleOne> OMG!Ubuntu: Canonical tells under age users to lie about their age!
[15:41] <smartboyhw> IdleOne, \o/
[15:43] <popey> meh, i would
[15:47] <elfy> I'm 15
[15:47] <elfy> I always lie about my age
[15:48] <smartboyhw> elfy, bah
[15:48] <smartboyhw> That's seriously lying for no good reason
[16:44] <jono> dholbach, who is responsible for click packages installing on the Nexus devices?
[16:44] <jono> I noticed that the packages are not installing to /opt when I download them
[16:44] <dholbach> jono, alecu brought it up in #ubuntu-touch earlier
[16:44] <dholbach> it might have to do with the switch to read-only images
[16:45] <dholbach> lool, cjwatson, sergiusens should be able to help I guess
[16:45] <dholbach> I just got too busy to follow the discussion on the channel
[16:45] <jono> dholbach, np
[17:00] <jono> balloons, you need to bang the drum more on Mir MM testing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mir/MultiMonitorTesting/results
[17:00] <jono> one person has participated so far
[17:42] <jono> balloons, ?
[17:42] <jono> did you see my message?
[17:55] <balloons> jono, ohh I see it now.. flakyness. There is also http://packages.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/298/builds/51476/testcases/1572/results
[17:56] <balloons> so 5 altogether it looks like
[17:56] <jono> balloons, so what is the difference between the wiki page and that?
[17:56] <balloons> jono, nothing.. you can report either place
[17:57] <jono> balloons, why don't we just ask people to use one place?
[18:00] <balloons> jono, the wiki was used originally so they retained it.. typically everything would be recorded in the tracker
[18:00] <jono> balloons, so there is no good reason
[18:00] <jono> balloons, I see little point in having two places to file reports
[18:01] <jono> lets ask people to use the tracker
[18:01] <balloons> jono, the reason is that they didn't ask people originally to use the tracker, but instead to use a wiki page
[18:01] <balloons> they don't want to alienate anyone now, so both still exist. They want as many reports as possible
[18:02] <balloons> I agree about it's potential for confusion..
[18:03] <jono> balloons, right, but my point is...why didn't they use the tracker at first?
[18:03] <jono> we have a QA tracker for tracking manual testing, which this is
[18:04] <jono> dholbach, can you throw me the hangout URL for the click session?
[18:04] <dholbach> done
[18:05] <balloons> jono, you originally created the wiki page for tracking results from the Xmir testing :-) I didn't realize you had done that when we were using the tracker at the same time
[18:05] <balloons> regardless, we can edit the links out. only 2 people used the wiki
[18:06] <asomething> dholbach, planet checker script - https://gist.github.com/andrewsomething/6356278
[18:06] <balloons> let me know and I'll make the edits, which should just more or less freeze the wiki results page from getting further results
[18:06] <jono> balloons, no, I created the GPU testing wiki page, which was not intended for deep testing
[18:07] <jono> I didn't createhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mir/MultiMonitorTesting/results
[18:09] <dholbach> asomething, you are the hero of heroes
[18:09]  * dholbach hugs asomething
[20:00] <dholbach> see you guys tomorrow
[20:01] <balloons> jono, I think doing it on the wiki was confusing.. it was not my intention to do it that way, but I'm making the best of it for testing as it's been done. There is an article on omg that landed this afternoon.. that should help reach more folks. I'm sending reminders that we only have one more day before the testing closes
[20:02] <jono> balloons, ok, just in the future, lets focus on the tracker
[20:13] <dpm> see you all tomorrow!