=== bschaefer_ is now known as bschaefer [03:41] Good morning [03:44] morning [04:38] RAOF, robert_ancell: ah, yay for xmir xrandr! [04:38] now I can actually use it \o/ (running from PPA now) [04:38] but it's really sluggish, especially in weechat but also in firefox [04:40] pitti, all thanks for RAOF! yeah, there's a known problem with lag when using two monitors [04:40] pitti, does the lag go away when using one monitor? [04:40] ah, known? good; I'm going to report the wrong default resolution [04:40] robert_ancell: I disabled the internal panel, I only have my external DVI on [04:41] pitti, oh interesting - that's a good point to note. I'll find you the bug number [04:41] I need to rearrange things a bit to test it with the laptop only, can do [04:41] ah, bug 1216224, someone else got it as well [04:41] Launchpad bug 1216224 in XMir "[multimonitor] XMir defaults to wrong resolution 1152x864 instead of 1920x1200." [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1216224 [04:43] pitti, does bug 1216472 sound like your case? [04:43] Launchpad bug 1216472 in Mir "xmir multimonitor Frames eventually get slightly out of order, look like glitches or typing will feel slow" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1216472 [04:43] robert_ancell: could be; typing in weechat feels like a 300ms lag ssh connection [04:44] pitti, that sounds like what I've seen here [04:44] and mouse wheel scrolling in firefox causes a lot of flicker in the lower third [04:44] robert_ancell: ok, so it's consistent [04:44] robert_ancell: I'll check with LVDS only, too === duflu_ is now known as duflu [04:57] pitti: if you have a moment, this morning's ack-needed would be gallery-app adding a dependency http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6031287/ and ubuntu-keyboard adding autopilot package http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6031288/ [04:57] (a peek at the latter at https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-unity/+archive/daily-build/+sourcepub/3447670/+listing-archive-extra - I was interested in checking how the autopilot package turned out) [04:58] Mirv: gallery-app ack [04:59] Mirv: ubuntu-keyboard ack (argh more py2 stuff, but that's due to autopilot) [04:59] pitti: thanks... and right, that's unfortunate [07:15] Morning! [07:15] Mirv: hi! How's the nvidia machine today? === tkamppeter_ is now known as tkamppeter [07:16] Ah, I see it's fixed now [07:40] sil2100: hi! I wasn't sure what's up with it, but yes it seemed to be running smoothly :) [07:45] queued rerun of platform + mirslave tests, seem random [08:03] morning [08:07] good morning desktopers [08:08] Morning [08:08] Mirv: I guess it was fixed when the container got updated [08:09] Or maybe cyphermox somehow resolved it [08:09] hello seb128 [08:09] how's it going? [08:09] hey Laney sil2100 [08:09] mornig seb128, Laney [08:09] Laney, good mostly, would be better without vUDS though (too much to do) [08:09] hey Mirv [08:09] mmm [08:09] I see there are lots of s-s reviews [08:09] Laney, you? had a good long w.e? [08:09] will do those [08:10] yes, did a lot of climbing [08:10] Laney, thanks, that's the other thing that annoyed me, nobody did any review since thursday [08:10] ken is too busy [08:10] and you had friday busy and yesterday off [08:10] we need to bring more people in u-s-s ;-) [08:10] yeah [08:10] ho hum [08:10] jhodapp wants me to update gstreamer to a snapshot too [08:11] * Laney urghs [08:11] welcome back :p [08:11] i'm guessing it's only because they are using a trunk shapshot which bumped the configure.ac requirements and it doesn't actually need it [08:11] but ho hum [08:11] reviews first :P [08:13] thanks ;-) [08:13] oh look, an i-keyboard [08:13] shouldn't that be hidden if I only hve one layout? [08:14] Laney, it should yes, that's a bug [08:15] filin' dis [08:28] Mirv: hi! Do you know by any chance why those *-service packages didn't make it to -proposed? [08:28] Mirv: I mean, did the services stack get redeployed and released? [08:30] new poppler out, with massive improvements in the backend used by the poppler-qt5 code in some particular pdf files [08:30] sil2100: yes it got released [08:30] improvements in speed that is [08:30] sil2100: it's in NEW queue [08:31] sil2100: actually, just handled by probably seb12_8 or Lane_y [08:31] tsdgeos, 0.24.1? [08:31] yep [08:31] tsdgeos, I'm going to do the update today, thanks for pointing it out [08:32] cool [08:34] jibel: hi! could you add a "Services" view to http://10.97.0.1:8080/view/cu2d/view/Head/ for the 'services' stack? [08:38] grrrr jbicha, some days I wonder if we should remove him upload rights for the desktop set [08:38] :D [08:38] What's wrong? [08:38] he started doing updates of some GNOME components to 3.9.90 [08:38] e.g 3.10 cycle tarballs [08:38] where we said we would stay on 3.8 [08:39] that's not a decision he should be taken in an unilateral way without discussing it here first [08:40] sil2100: I marked the -service tasks still undone, I want to mark them done only when I see them in release pocket [08:41] ACK [08:42] Mirv, done and RT submitted to do the same on public instance [08:43] jibel: glad to see you back ;) Morning! [08:43] jibel: thanks, looks good! [08:43] sil2100, Thanks and good morning :) [09:03] Mirv: I'll re-run platform if you don't mind [09:06] hum, something wants to change my /etc/init.d/networking on upgrade [09:06] That's not me [09:07] seb128: save /etc/init.d/network.dpkg* files; file bug [09:07] Mirv: I'll fix the extra packages for indicators too [09:07] Laney, bug on what package? [09:07] ifupdown presumably [09:08] Mirv: since I don't see any branch merge proposal :) [09:08] that owns the file [09:08] and just saw an update [09:08] Laney, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6031850/ is the diff [09:08] * Laney nods [09:08] a bug with .dpkg-old and the new file should be enough [09:08] same diff in http://launchpadlibrarian.net/148488266/ifupdown_0.7.5ubuntu4_0.7.44ubuntu1.diff.gz [09:08] Laney, thanks [09:09] stgraber, ^ known issue? [09:09] sil2100, what is the status for ATI, does it stay offline or we try to restart the machine after mir tests or between each set of tests? [09:09] I guess zgrep ifupdown /var/log/dpkg.log* too [09:12] jibel: hm, not sure what Didier had planned, but I think it would be safer to keep it offline for now - since restarting the machine after mir tests might sound ok, but I'm afraid it might introduce additional complications [09:12] Laney, stgraber: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ifupdown/+bug/1217263 [09:12] Launchpad bug 1217263 in ifupdown (Ubuntu) "conffile change prompt on upgrade" [Undecided,New] [09:13] Mirv: https://code.launchpad.net/~sil2100/cupstream2distro-config/extra_packages_indicators/+merge/182305 [09:13] seb128: ^^ see my zgrep line [09:13] that's sometimes helpful to see your upgrade path [09:13] Laney, did you need more than " 2013-08-27 11:05:36 upgrade ifupdown:i386 0.7.5ubuntu4 0.7.44ubuntu1" [09:13] Laney, oh, ok, I though you were just trying to get the previous version info [09:13] sil2100, k [09:13] nope [09:14] it's not universal since I didn't get the prompt [09:14] Laney, your cmd returns 120 lines going over year, that seemed like flooding [09:14] it sometimes depends on things previous versions if they did stuff to the conffile [09:14] attach it in a file if it's large [09:15] Laney, https://launchpadlibrarian.net/148521364/upgrade.log [09:15] ty [09:16] should be enough for Stéphane to go on ;-) [09:16] I've all the infos locally if he needs more [09:18] Did Gnome really disabled middle-click paste?! [09:18] Oh, and hello everyone. :) [09:18] gosh, I hope so [09:18] BigWhale, hey, and yes, new GTK does that, but we don't have that yet in Ubuntu [09:18] Laney, you hate middle click to paste? ;-) [09:19] so much [09:19] I've never done it on purpose [09:19] triple tap = middle click = accidental paste [09:19] touchpad users... :p [09:19] Mirv: in the meantime, publishing services and some other stacks [09:19] You managed to triple tap by accident? :) [09:19] Wow. I use it all the time. At least on machines where the touchpad can distinguish triple fingers. [09:20] so so many times [09:20] * seb128 doesn't use touchpads [09:20] you nipple perverts [09:20] oh triple tap = tap with three fingers [09:20] ;-) [09:20] yeah [09:20] I am on a one butan laptop [09:20] People will go crazy over this. I need popcorn. :) [09:24] sil2100: ok. like I said earlier, I already queued platform rerun. indicators failed to build earlier. [09:24] Mirv: you think I should publish phone stack? [09:25] Mirv: since I'm not sure if there were things to release for -service packages, or maybe it's just because it wasn't in -proposed yet? [09:26] pitti, hey, could you help getting http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/devkit-devel/2013-August/001416.html reviewed/having a reply? [09:27] Mirv: can you review the extra-packages merge? [09:27] Mirv: https://code.launchpad.net/~sil2100/cupstream2distro-config/extra_packages_indicators/+merge/182305 ;) [09:28] seb128: ah yes, can do; I was waiting for a few days for Richard, but I can do that, too [09:28] pitti, thanks, I just noticed that it's waiting for almost a month (well the guy just pinged back today ont he list and commented onhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1066208) [09:28] Launchpad bug 1066208 in indicator-power (Ubuntu Quantal) "power indicator shows a mouse battery as a laptop battery" [High,In progress] [09:30] sil2100: I think phobe is fine not released for this tick [09:32] Mirv: ok, as for indicators, I'll let the next tick handle it - once the branch gets approved and redeployed (by me) [09:33] sil2100: ok. approved the extra-packages. [09:35] Mirv: redeploying, thanks! [09:38] just remembered that I probably ought to make my webcam/mic work [09:39] that would be better for vUDS [09:39] or you could carry your phone around ;-) [09:40] it's hard to join the hangouts then though :( [09:40] seb128: can you mark https://code.launchpad.net/~seb128/ubuntu-system-settings/battery-wifi-controls/+merge/181867 with the right prerequisite? [09:40] want to approve it but I'm not sure what will happen [09:42] Laney, done^Wstupid launchpad keeps timeouting [09:42] Laney, ah, worked [09:43] shrug, no, wait [09:43] LAUNCHPAAAAAAAAAAAAAAADDDDDDDDDDDDDD [09:44] oh, and of course, resubmitting eats the commit message [09:44] Laney, ok, there we go, you can refresh [09:44] such fun [09:44] thanks [09:45] oops [09:45] commented on a superseded one [09:51] Laney, "using the same interface in both directions" ... you mean writing to dbus to set the wifi on/off as well? [09:51] I mean NM [09:51] but that also [09:51] I'm not sure how much magic the libnm-glib api has [09:51] like writing to NM and reading NM instead of reading QtSystems writing NM [09:51] IYSWIM [09:51] but for getting the status that would be better indeed [09:51] it seems to be fairly close to the dbus api [09:51] though "is wifi on" should really be provided by the platform [10:01] chrisccoulson, hey [10:01] hi seb128, how are you? [10:01] chrisccoulson, I'm good thanks, how are you? [10:01] seb128, yeah, not too bad thanks [10:01] chrisccoulson, https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/client-1308-oxide is on schedule for today 3pm utc ... that works for you? [10:02] hah :) [10:02] chrisccoulson, just checking ;-) [10:02] chrisccoulson, http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1308/2013-08-27/display [10:02] seb128, yeah, i guess so, although i've had little time to prepare (public holiday yesterday) [10:03] chrisccoulson, would you prefer it moved to thursday 4pm utc? [10:03] seb128, no, i think i'll be able to do 3pm today :) [10:03] ok, great [10:04] chrisccoulson, I guess you don't know what's the status of fixing https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/chromium-browser/28.0.1500.95-0ubuntu2 builds btw? [10:04] seb128, i don't. i've not looked at those yet [10:04] qengho, ^ [10:05] chrisccoulson, don't worry, I'm going to check with qengho, he said he had a new version almost ready that should build, but that's a week now that we have the failing to build version in proposed [10:05] we should try to have a better turnover than a week to fix broken builds [10:14] seb128: quick question - when will, for instance, dialer-app be retried to move out of -proposed into release? As the deps are now in release [10:18] sil2100, on next publisher run [10:18] which is less than half an hour [10:19] sil2100, OH [10:19] sil2100, http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses.html [10:19] dialer-app/i386 unsatisfiable Depends: qtdeclarative5-ubuntu-history-plugin [10:19] dialer-app/i386 unsatisfiable Depends: qtdeclarative5-ubuntu-telephony-plugin [10:19] sil2100, we need to fix dialer-app to use the right naming [10:19] e.g -ubuntu-history0.1 [10:19] not -plugin [10:19] same of telephony [10:24] Ah! [10:24] seb128: right, sorry, I missed the naming change [10:24] sil2100, I can mp the fix if you want, was just doing it [10:24] seb128: thanks! [10:25] I'll approve [10:25] Suuucks though, but maybe we'll make it for this tick [10:26] seb128: all because I pushed the rdeps first... ;) [10:27] pstolowski, Mirv: https://code.launchpad.net/~sil2100/unity-scope-home/remove_openweather/+merge/182334 [10:27] Mirv: and for you an additional https://code.launchpad.net/~sil2100/cupstream2distro-config/remove_openweathermap/+merge/182335 [10:28] sil2100, https://code.launchpad.net/~seb128/dialer-app/update-depends-for-rename/+merge/182342 [10:32] seb128: thanks, approved [10:32] sil2100, thanks [10:32] sil2100, when is the next tick? or do you plan to retry that stack? [10:34] sil2100, urg, lot of yellow/red in the stack [10:34] network and phone are yellow, is anyone looking at those? [10:34] oh, they just run [10:36] seb128: we're still not looking as stacks are still running [10:36] Most of them [10:36] sil2100, right, I just saw that ;-) [10:36] :) [10:40] sil2100, I guess next dialer-app build is going to be in 4 hours then? [10:48] seb128: I'll check, but we can do a re-run earlier [10:48] seb128: btw. can you ACK https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/view/cu2d/view/Head/view/QA/job/cu2d-qa-head-3.0publish/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/packaging_changes_autopilot_1.3.1+13.10.20130827-0ubuntu1.diff ? [10:48] sil2100, +1 [10:48] asac, ^ [10:48] thx [10:48] ! [10:48] :) [10:48] yw ;-) [10:49] \o/ [10:49] Publishing! [10:51] seb128: btw. messaging-app is clean? i.e. it doesn't require the same rename? [10:51] sil2100, looking [10:51] seb128: since we'll make it for this tick [10:51] seb128: since phone stack is still waiting for other stacks to finish ;) [10:51] So, if it lands soon, we'll have it released [10:52] sil2100, it needs the same fix, doing it [10:53] sil2100, https://code.launchpad.net/~seb128/messaging-app/update-depends-for-rename/+merge/182349 [10:56] seb128: approved, fingers crossed that we'll make it [10:56] let's see [11:00] guys [11:00] overrid_dh_install in a rules file is a typo, right? [11:01] sounds like one [11:01] yay! [11:01] the accountsservice stuff works [11:02] after fixing a series of stupid errors... [11:09] aloha [11:11] g'day mate [11:21] seb128: eh, autolanding for the messaging-app failed ;/ [11:21] Re-approving [11:23] sil2100, thanks [12:08] pitti: since you're talking about keymaps, do you know what do i have to do so that the combination Fn+toggle monitor in my laptop actually produces XF_TOGGLE_MONITOR (or whatever is the correct name) isntead of Windows+Enter+s+p keypresses? [12:09] all the other Fn keys work expect this one :D [12:09] tsdgeos: sorry, that's the second-most stupid thing ever [12:09] that's an old known issue afaik [12:09] oem hacked that key for win [12:09] tsdgeos: Micro$oft forced that into the BIOS specification as apparently they were too lazy to handle that properly [12:09] tsdgeos: i. e. it's hardwired, you can't change it [12:09] (or maybe in some ACPI tables) [12:10] oh [12:10] sad [12:10] lunch! [12:37] tjaalton, mlankhorst: libx11 libxcb libxi libxkbcommon libxrandr libxres libxvmc are outdated in saucy compared to upstream/debian ... is that wanted? (most of those seem a minor version behind, and in some cases it's mostly bug fixes it seems) [12:37] seb128: I tried uploading libx11 but that one seems to crash in w3m somewhere [12:37] I tried debugging why, didn't get very far :/ [12:38] k, that might be the hardest one in the list :p [12:38] * Laney is in binding loop hell [12:38] e.g libxrandr has some security fixes (that mdeslaur backported) and a bug fix [12:38] Laney, those are annoying :/ [12:38] I think the security team did handle all security fixes [12:41] ah maybe I can fix it on the C++ side [12:42] seb128: I'll toss it in the ppa and see what builds :P [12:45] ah yes that fixed it [12:45] I was emitting the changed signal too often [12:45] now that's changed it works? :P [12:54] seb128: is it ok if I kill off the .txt documentation entirely for libx11? I have no idea about what's causing the bug.. [12:55] do you know what the offending file is? [12:55] you could check its diff [12:56] mlankhorst, I don't know, but seems like we should rather not upgrade if it's creating issues, there is no real reasons we need to update [12:56] I was mostly asking for those since some seem bug fix updates that might be nice to get in this cycle [12:56] Laney: it's really some w3m internal issue, I tried tracing it down and it doesn't occur in valgrind for example :/ [12:57] seb128: well I want to upgrade it for some fixes that were reported by xorg-integration-tests [12:57] yes, so if you find the diff that exposes the problem you have a nice example to forward and also to work around the problem [12:59] lunchies [12:59] I can't even reliable trigger it [12:59] except on the builders it seems [13:08] hm libxi and libxcb can't be copied directly, would need a branch for now, or have the upstream changes integrated. but it doesn't look like the delta with those 2 are important. [13:13] xkbcommon looks like it could be copied directly, xrandr seems to have a patch that is upstream but not in debian yet, need to carry that. === m_conley_away is now known as m_conley [13:17] libxres could be updated too, but the new release was just an autotools thing + security updates.. [13:18] same with libxvmc [13:21] so all in all, only libxcb, libxkbcommon and libx11 would be useful to backport.. [13:22] is there any package depending on libxkbcommon? [13:25] mlankhorst, gtk weston mir [13:26] I've added it to my list to look at, probably will fix it tomorrow :) [13:28] seb128: published phone, the components should be unblocked now [13:29] sil2100, great! [13:29] pitti, do you plan to backport http://cgit.freedesktop.org/upower/commit/?id=07b95b8e27e7c488828c46a28df96f1c83b185c8? === m_conley is now known as m_conley_away [13:34] catfish postinst having issues with invalid syntax in FSM.py (Flying Spaghetti Monster?). Is that a known issue? [13:34] seb128: yes, I do; our upower pacakge currently has Seth's original patch [13:34] Mirv: you think it's safe to publish the Apps stack without WebApps? [13:34] pitti, oh ok, good [13:34] seb128: so it's not urgent, but I think I fixed it in a more elegant way (and in a way which doesn't cuase the test suite to encounter CRITICALs [13:35] pitti, mpt hit a bug on friday that I though might have been the same issue, but maybe it's not === Sweetsha1k is now known as Sweetshark [13:35] pitti, he had the battery charge level as NaN and we do remainingCapacity/maxCapacity to calculate the % [13:36] sorry, need to run out to the market to buy some food before vUDS, brb [13:36] so I though maybe it was upower return some null values, which seemed somewhat similar to that bug [13:36] pitti, ttyl! [13:44] sil2100: I think, WebApps had a successful release last evening and there is not much in terms of dependencies [13:46] Releasing then, thanks === dednick is now known as dednick|lunch === om26er is now known as om26er|away [14:13] Laney, did you see that your mp has a conflict as well as the missing commit message? [14:13] just pushed [14:13] cool [14:14] going to review in a bit [14:14] during vuds, brave ;-) [14:14] vuds? [14:14] bah, just tried to open a webkit build log in firefox [14:14] oh, jono's intro ... it's like security instructions in plane, I stopped listening to those a long time ago [14:14] chrisccoulson, your firefox is frozen for a minute now? ;-) [14:15] seb128, longer than a minute so far [14:15] heh [14:15] starting to think about killing it ;) [14:15] seb128: there's a sabdfl keynote too ;-) [14:16] Laney, yeah, I noticed that on the title, that's why I've jono's comment running in background :p [14:16] locked and loaded... but can take hints & tips on IRC ;) [14:16] * Laney tests hangouts [14:18] sabdfl, hey ;-) [14:18] sabdfl, hint: "make sure you mic is working an non muted" :p [14:18] ack, tak :) [14:21] seb128: I just pushed LO 4.1.1~rc2 to the PPAs (the general ones and the 4.1.x one). I assume it to be declared final upstream in two days. So we might try to get a 4.1.1 release into saucy at the same time as upstream ;) [14:22] Sweetshark, great! [14:23] bah [14:25] Laney, what? [14:26] still no mic [14:26] :-( [14:43] Sweetshark: hah I'll beat you with mesa 9.2 :P [14:43] well probably not because it requires copying llvm 3.3 from universe to main [14:43] but still! [14:45] Sweetshark: on saucy when you open a document and go to the file or edit tab or any of them, can you see any of the text the first time? I know if I close the menu and go back to it I see text but never on the first time [14:46] czajkowski: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libreoffice/+bug/1204592 [14:46] Launchpad bug 1204592 in libreoffice (Ubuntu) "LibreOffice unity menus populate sluggishly the first time" [Medium,Triaged] [14:52] oh well [14:52] nexus 7 it is :| [14:52] Sweetshark: bah medium :p [14:53] mlankhorst: oh, I was mostly kidding. I dont want to dump a libreoffice build into main which hasnt seen testing in the ppa for a few days. And the ARM build still takes ~30 hours ... [14:54] :P [14:55] Sweetshark: I swear you do some sort of magiv antivoodoo to your PPAs [14:56] czajkowski: how so? [14:57] 30 hours :) [14:58] he never leaves the builds running unattented either! === dednick|lunch is now known as dednick [14:59] czajkowski: thats not a ppa build. that was the build in -proposed: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libreoffice/1:4.1.0-2ubuntu1/+build/4845479 . Also notes that this was the second try, on the first build gcc failed with an internal compiler error (giving me almost a heart attack). [14:59] czajkowski: the second build had no issues. So likely gcc was just exhausted the first time around. [15:01] I'm not LP any more so it's fine :) [15:01] hehehehehe === m_conley_away is now known as m_conley [15:05] mlankhorst: of course not! I can tell you dancing around the builder exstactally with a shamans mask and chanting kumbayaas to Ada Lovelace, Alan Turing and the other great ghosts of computation gets tiresome after 30 hours. [15:09] that's why you stop at 30 :-) [15:10] is this the channel of one hundred paper cuts? [15:12] kenvandine, hey [15:12] hey seb128 [15:12] kenvandine, do you know if somebody from webapps want to join the oxide session? [15:12] alex-abreu, ^^ [15:12] kenvandine, alex-abreu: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1308/meeting/21932/client-1308-oxide/ [15:13] alex-abreu, you would probably have the best input there [15:13] alex-abreu, https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/78ddd832135a6ec210e7fa014ac7d2b560b35935?authuser=0&hl=fr [15:13] alex-abreu, https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/78ddd832135a6ec210e7fa014ac7d2b560b35935?authuser=0 [15:13] rather [15:13] (if you don't want the french version) [15:14] Mirv, ^ maybe as well? [15:14] ah it has started! [15:15] alex-abreu, yes, please join the hangout ;-) [15:15] sorry thought it was 1 hour from now [15:16] alex-abreu, coming? should we wait for you? [15:16] seb128: in the daily process session [15:16] Mirv, ok, fine [15:17] alex-abreu, thanks [15:17] is this the channel of one hundred paper cuts? [15:18] sam113101, I don't think there is a specific channel for those [15:18] you can discuss desktop issues here [15:19] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList [15:19] there are so many channels [15:22] where do I find the "papercuts" to fix? [15:22] I want to get involved [15:24] sam113101, try asking on #ubuntu-devel or #ubuntu-motu maybe === om26er|away is now known as om26er [15:24] sam113101, you have the bug list on https://bugs.launchpad.net/hundredpapercuts/ [15:25] seb128: thanks [15:32] seb128: meeting time? :P [15:32] mlankhorst, no meeting, read your emails :p [15:32] mlankhorst, vUDS ongoing [15:33] g2g for a bit :/ [16:54] TheMuso, hey, are you going to lead https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/client-1308-touch-1404-a11y in one hour? who is joining for the session? [17:00] bcurtiswx, you still in DC area? [17:00] seb128: I will be leading, yes. I don't know who else will be joining, but I did put out feelers in the Mir/Unity 8 teams with Pat's help to try and get some people along to attend who can advise etc. [17:01] TheMuso, ok, thanks === olli_ is now known as olli === sam113101 is now known as sam113101_afk === sam113101_afk is now known as sam113101 [18:22] cyphermox, hey, libcolumbus is stucked in saucy-proposed for some weeks because its soname changed and unity-lens-applications needs to be rebuilt with it ... is that on your todolist? [18:39] seb128: yes, it's on my todo [18:40] cyphermox, great, thank you [18:49] sil2100, cyphermox: the indicator stack is unhappy because of a new package, can you fix that? [18:49] http://10.97.0.1:8080/job/autopilot-saucy-daily_release/1335/label=autopilot-intel/console [18:50] "/var/log/upstart/otto-setup.log: +gnome-control-center-datetime" [18:50] I wish people would stop landing new dependencies [18:50] :D [18:50] sil2100, cyphermox: tedg split out the control panel so we don't bring g-c-c in the touch image [19:28] cyphermox, kenvandine, robru, Mirv: I'll be archiving this weeks tasks in the spreadsheet now [19:29] sil2100, ok [19:45] sil2100, thanks === slomo__ is now known as slomo [20:34] jbicha, darkxst, is there any good reason why saucy shouldn't get evince 3.9/3.10? I'd like evince 3.9/3.10 because its got better accessibility support, particularly caret/document navigation with cursor keys. [21:09] TheMuso, provided it doesnt require gtk 3.10 it should be ok === seb128_ is now known as seb128 === m_conley is now known as m_conley_away === bschaefer_ is now known as bschaefer [21:29] darkxst: No it doesn't, it builds against GTK 3.8 without issue. [21:37] TheMuso, looking through the NEWS, updating evince seems to be ok [21:42] seb128: Thats what I thought, but was just checking to see whether anybody else had a good reason to hold it back. [21:43] TheMuso, +1 from me for updating, thanks for checking [21:43] np [21:44] jbicha, hey, if you plan to update other components to 3.10 please discuss those here before uploading [21:48] seb128: yes I will [21:48] thanks [21:48] What is the rule of thumb with regards to updating a package in the archive based on a PPA package, shoudl I leave the PPA changelog entries in place, or should I combine them into a single entry? [21:48] Or somethign else? [21:49] pitti, good morning (guess you are going to read that tomorrow), could you look at http://10.98.0.1:8080/view/Saucy/view/AutoPkgTest/job/saucy-adt-libgtkada/18/ARCH=i386,label=adt/console ? [21:49] pitti, not sure what's going on, that's blocking the new cairo but I'm not sure it's a cairo issue... [21:51] TheMuso: either keeping the ppa changelog entries or rewriting them into a single changlog entry is fine [21:51] Ok, I'll keep them. [21:58] I assume you know about passing -v to debuild to include all the new changelog entries [22:01] Yes I do. [22:01] Its so damn easy to forget. [22:01] I've forgotten with many a merge. [22:01] Particularly if I am working with bzr builddeb or git buildpackage. :) [23:47] cyphermox, Mirv: can one of you confirm that http://10.97.0.1:8080/job/autopilot-saucy-daily_release/1344/label=autopilot-intel/testReport/junit/unity8.shell.tests.test_notifications/EphemeralNotificationsTests/test_summary_and_body_Desktop_Nexus_4_/ looks like it is caused by a missing dependency on ubuntu-ui-toolkit-theme? That's the package that provides that file in the error [23:49] robru: looking [23:49] I'm just trying to reproduce it in pbuilder... [23:49] what's the code branch for ubuntu-ui-toolkit-theme? [23:50] anyway, rather than fixing it ourselves, we should throw it back to the unity7 team [23:50] unity8 I mean [23:50] cyphermox, really? I thought we were supposed to fix simple dep problems... [23:51] cyphermox, https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-sdk-team/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/trunk [23:52] robru: packaging problems, yes [23:52] code errors, I'd say no [23:52] well, you know, with reason [23:53] well the test failure is due to a missing file, and that missing file is provided by a pakcage that i don't see listed as a depin debian/control [23:53] yuck [23:53] well then :) [23:53] cyphermox, the part i'm not sure about is that i thought maybe the dep might get pulled in indirectly by something else [23:53] and i'm not sure how to check for that. i'd be annoyed if i added this dep and it didn't fix the problem. [23:54] seems like it should be [23:54] or you know, picked by something else [23:54] http://10.97.0.1:8080/job/autopilot-saucy-daily_release/1344/label=autopilot-intel/consoleFull [23:54] ^ the package does get installed [23:55] running the stuff in sbuild / pbuilder will tell you, it would be in the depends [23:55] as it's not really a library thing, I'd expect it to be listed explicitly [23:55] but then, I don't know why it doesn't work if the package in included on the container [23:56] cyphermox, hmmm, it is being installed. then i have no idea why the test fails to find it [23:57] cyphermox, ok, I'll file a bug i guess