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| dmbQs | Need some help reconfiguring Grub after restoring to a new VM. Can anyone help me with the instructions here: I restored a Tar backup to a new VM. Now I need to reconfigure Grub. Need some help with the commands found here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem/TAR. Would anyone mind helping?? | 01:21 |
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| delinquentme | sshfs is supposed to create the mount dir on execution right? | 02:47 |
| delinquentme | im getting a complaint from bash: fuse: bad mount point `/home/thrive/www': No such file or directory | 02:47 |
| sarnold | delinquentme: no, a directory needs to exist somewhere before you can mount a filesystem on it | 02:48 |
| delinquentme | sarnold, much apreesh | 02:51 |
| babak_ | question mod_security comes on 12.04 as 2.6.3 and the current version is 2.7.5 is it ok to stay with 2.6.3 ? I though we where supposed to use LTS for things like this. | 04:35 |
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| rbasak | Daviey: I'm looking at http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/ubuntu-server/merges.html. It looked truncated; then I realised that it's being updated as I read it. What do you think about changing the cronjob to write to a temporary file and then renaming in, so we get an atomic update? Not worth it for the one time I hit the problem? :) | 07:49 |
| Daviey | rbasak: Yeah, i can do that. | 08:30 |
| Daviey | rbasak: if you saw this crontab... you'd be wishing we had wrappers :) | 08:31 |
| Daviey | (busy) | 08:31 |
| rbasak | :) | 08:31 |
| Daviey | rbasak: should be good now | 08:36 |
| rbasak | Daviey: thanks! | 08:36 |
| Daviey | zul: hey, can you check if kombu can be sync'd? kombu 2.5.12-0ubuntu2 -> 2.5.12-1 | 09:01 |
| Daviey | jamespage: looks like gdisk can be sync'd? | 09:02 |
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| jamespage | Daviey, probably | 09:12 |
| yolanda | zul, trying to build ceilometer for the tests, but having a lot of RuntimeError: No 'ceilometer.storage' driver found, looking for '' | 11:37 |
| zul | yolanda: yeah ill have a look at it today | 11:43 |
| yolanda | i was trying to build ceilometer to run the tests, do you prefer that i wait for it? | 11:43 |
| zul | yolanda: yeah | 11:47 |
| yolanda | ok | 11:47 |
| yolanda | zul, please let me know when it's fixed so i can add my tests | 11:47 |
| zul | jamespage/roaksoax: https://code.launchpad.net/~zulcss/python-novaclient/babel/+merge/182367 | 11:52 |
| wsk233 | hello i need to setup a ftp server for some internal use the only thing i need to be able to configure is chroot which is the most easy ftp server to set this up | 12:04 |
| greppy | wsk233: I've always liked proftpd if I *really* had to setup a plain ftp server, I much prefer using sftp. | 12:05 |
| wsk233 | ofcrouse i understand | 12:05 |
| zul | jamespage: https://code.launchpad.net/~zulcss/python-neutronclient/deps-refresh/+merge/182372 | 12:08 |
| zul | Daviey: should be ok to sync | 12:16 |
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| crass | I'd like to run the server iso from an iso on a filesystem on a usb stick. Is this possible? | 12:40 |
| crass | this can be done using the loopback.cfg with the desktop iso, but server's loopback.cfg just has an entry for testing the iso, not actually running it | 12:41 |
| Monotoko | what should I be allowing through the firewall to stop a DNS lookup failure when doing a proxypass? | 12:57 |
| Monotoko | outgoing is allowed... I don't see the problem | 12:58 |
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| hallyn_ | zul: if/when my laptop(s) overheat can you step in for a few mins in the virt stack talk (in 1.5 hrs) | 14:25 |
| zul | hallyn_: sure | 14:26 |
| hallyn_ | thx | 14:26 |
| zul | hallyn_: if my network connection doesnt crap out on me :) | 14:28 |
| hallyn_ | sbux? | 14:28 |
| zul | hallyn_: rural internet | 14:28 |
| disposable | i have a vlan interface on top of bond(active-backup) interface on top of 2 physical interfaces. I recently upgraded from 10.04 to 12.04 and suddenly I see a lot of dropped packets on my bond0 and the inactive underlying eth interface. same problem on 3.2, 3.5, 3.8, 3.9 kernels. it seems about a 1/5 of received packets are dropped. my cards use igb module (intel 82576). has anybody come across this? | 14:46 |
| disposable | i've tried juniper and procurve switches | 14:47 |
| zul | roaksoax: mind +1ing https://code.launchpad.net/~zulcss/python-novaclient/babel/+merge/182367 and https://code.launchpad.net/~zulcss/python-neutronclient/deps-refresh/+merge/182372 please | 14:54 |
| zul | yolanda: ceilometer should be fine now | 14:54 |
| roaksoax | zul: done | 14:54 |
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| yolanda | zul, thx | 14:55 |
| zul | thanks | 14:55 |
| patdk-wk | disposable, works great for me | 14:55 |
| disposable | patdk-wk: if you type ifconfig bond0, do you not see any dropped packets? | 15:03 |
| patdk-wk | oh, that, your suppost to see that | 15:08 |
| patdk-wk | every single multicast/broadcast packet it sends out one nic, will be dropped when it's received on the other nic | 15:08 |
| disposable | patdk-wk: i'd understand seeing dropped packets on the ethX device that isn't the current slave, but not on bond0 | 15:10 |
| disposable | patdk-wk: on your bond0 interface is the number of dropped packets also around 1/5 of all received? | 15:11 |
| patdk-wk | 1/230th | 15:20 |
| disposable | patdk-wk: thanks. | 15:20 |
| patdk-wk | it exactly matchs the received and dropped count of my backup nic | 15:20 |
| disposable | patdk-wk: yes, same here. | 15:21 |
| patdk-wk | so that easily explains it | 15:21 |
| patdk-wk | it's a backup, anything received isn't suppost to be, and is a dup | 15:21 |
| patdk-wk | and is dropped | 15:21 |
| patdk-wk | as I said | 15:21 |
| disposable | patdk-wk: weird thing is that every couple of reboots i get 0 dropped packets. | 15:21 |
| disposable | by couple i mean >20 | 15:21 |
| Shadowandlight | anyone have ideas on how to deploy a cloned copy of Ubuntu faster? I need to change passwords (mysql and linux) and settings faster then doing everything by hand... if possible http://askubuntu.com/questions/337503/easiest-solution-to-modifying-linux-mysql-passwords-and-other-settings-after-c | 15:28 |
| disposable | Shadowandlight: i'd suggest chef/puppet/cfengine but that may be too much overhead if you're just changing a few things. in your case i'd simply start clusterssh, log into all machines at once and just click into individual windows to enter different passwords. | 15:30 |
| Shadowandlight | do the config tools run locally or do they need to be web based like webmind / cloudmin? | 15:34 |
| thebwt | are there any reccomendations for a php ppa? I'm trying to get newer version stuff for a 12.04 server | 15:52 |
| arosales | jamespage, smoser is there goingto be a Server IRC meeting today since there is 1308 vUDS? | 15:55 |
| jamespage | arosales, nope | 15:56 |
| jamespage | can't do sessions and irc meeting at the same time | 15:56 |
| arosales | jamespage, ok | 15:57 |
| arosales | jamespage, I thought so just wanted to confirm | 15:57 |
| smoser | arosales, i say no | 16:00 |
| arosales | smoser, ack thanks. I'll put a reminder in ubuntu-meeting since we didn't get a mail out to the list | 16:01 |
| arosales | or I may have missed it if it did go out :-) | 16:01 |
| disposable | Shadowandlight: unfortunately, chef/puppet require installation of ruby and lots of additional software. cfengine is smaller and faster but with the steepest learning curve. for clusterssh, you just need ssh. | 16:23 |
| rbasak | disposable: is there a real world problem with pulling in all this "overhead"? apt-get does it automatically for you, and it doesn't use a significant amount of space on an installed server node. I also don't like the ruby dependency, but I don't think it'd affect my recommendiation to look into chef/puppet over anything else. | 16:33 |
| wedgwood | Is there a good way to set environment variables when calling lxc-attach? I need something like --clear-env plus a few extra values. | 16:54 |
| wedgwood | hallyn_: If I might trouble you, any ideas? ^ | 16:58 |
| rbasak | wedgwood: I call env after lxc-attach. lxc-attach --clear-env ... -- env foo=bar my_command | 16:58 |
| wedgwood | rbasak: ah, I'll give that a shot. there are ~a dozen things to set in some cases, but I still think that could be manageable | 16:59 |
| smoser | ok. i have a stupid question. | 17:25 |
| smoser | i wnat to make 'cloud-utils' package basically only depend on another package now. | 17:26 |
| smoser | transitional if you will. | 17:26 |
| hallyn_ | wedgwood: had to look back at the changelog; right now rbasak's is the best option. There is code for 'extra_keep_env', but it's not yet hooked up to the cli | 17:28 |
| hallyn_ | smoser: what is your q? (does it belong in -devel? :) | 17:29 |
| smoser | i think its never mind. | 17:29 |
| hallyn_ | ok :) | 17:30 |
| roaksoax | smoser: yeah that would work | 17:30 |
| roaksoax | smoser: cloud-utils would become a transitional package indeed | 17:30 |
| roaksoax | smoser: or you could make it a meta-package | 17:31 |
| smoser | whats a meta-package specifically ? a task? | 17:31 |
| roaksoax | smoser: no, a metapackage are packages that simply depend on others and do not install anything | 17:31 |
| smoser | example? | 17:31 |
| roaksoax | smoser: for example, 'maas' is a metapackage that installs 'maas-region-controller', 'maas-cluster-controller' | 17:32 |
| smoser | perfect. thank you. | 17:32 |
| roaksoax | smoser: now, transitional packages are usually needed for upgrades | 17:33 |
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| gartral | hey all, I've been looking into Landscape to help manage a private server and I was wondering if I install the landscape-client package, and decide later that I don't want it, will it break the server if I remove it? | 18:11 |
| sarnold | gartral: I had no trouble on my machine removing the landscape client after playing with it for a few weeks | 18:12 |
| gartral | sarnold: and exactly how much IS the Landscape service, I'm quite dismayed and put off by Cononical's secrecy on that subject | 18:13 |
| sarnold | gartral: heh, I'm sorry I can't actually fix that :) I had a free account on account of being an employee... | 18:14 |
| sarnold | gartral: hey! this looks like it. :) http://www.canonical.com/enterprise-services/ubuntu-advantage/server | 18:17 |
| gartral | sarnold: 320 USD *PER SERVER*?! holey crap! never mind that! | 18:18 |
| sarnold | gartral: yes that seems a bit steep if landscape is the only part of the plan you want | 18:19 |
| gartral | sarnold: yea.. I was thinking it would be like $10-20 US/year for a single server.. $320 is far, far *far* too rich for my blood | 18:21 |
| sarnold | gartral: yes, it looks like it was priced to be competitive against rhel and sles: https://www.redhat.com/apps/store/server/ https://www.suse.com/products/server/how-to-buy/ | 18:23 |
| gartral | sarnold: yea.. I'd rather just run my single server through an SSH console.. | 18:25 |
| sarnold | gartral: and perhaps the "unattented-upgrades" package would provide a lot of what you'd want from landscape anyway | 18:25 |
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| mgw | Is btrfs recommended for general use on server machines? I'm interested to use in conjunction with lxc. As I understand it, this will help reduce disk usage from duplicated container file systems. | 18:38 |
| RoyK | mgw: btrfs is not recommended for production systems | 18:41 |
| mgw | RoyK, thanks | 18:41 |
| xnox | mgw: you can equally use overlayfs or lvm snapshots for that. | 18:41 |
| RoyK | mgw: afaik btrfs doesn't have any dedup stuff yet | 18:41 |
| xnox | mgw: which are more stable than btrfs. | 18:42 |
| RoyK | xnox: 'cept lvm snapshots are dead slow :P | 18:42 |
| mgw | xnox: thanks, looking at overlayfs | 18:42 |
| xnox | RoyK: well dedup is being packaged by me, soon ;-) | 18:42 |
| RoyK | mgw: try zfs | 18:42 |
| xnox | RoyK: not in my testing. | 18:42 |
| sarnold | RoyK: is the zfs support entirely via fuse? | 18:42 |
| RoyK | mgw: zfs has a decent dedup implementation if you have *lots* of memory | 18:42 |
| RoyK | sarnold: there's zfsonlinux - separate ppa | 18:43 |
| * xnox wouldn't recommend zfs on linux to anyone. Solaris or Freebsd maybe. | 18:43 | |
| RoyK | sarnold: works well | 18:43 |
| xnox | sarnold: zfsonlinux is not legally clean. | 18:43 |
| sarnold | RoyK: hrm. how is that legal? | 18:43 |
| sarnold | aha :) hehe | 18:43 |
| RoyK | xnox: heh - I've worked with zfs on rather large systems, as in quater of a petabyte, works well | 18:43 |
| sarnold | RoyK: linux? | 18:43 |
| RoyK | sarnold: it's legal, it's legal to download and install non-gpl software on your own | 18:43 |
| RoyK | sarnold: zfsonlinux does just that | 18:44 |
| mgw | ubuntu-zfs is zfsonlinux? | 18:44 |
| RoyK | sarnold: it's like graphics drives that compile on install | 18:44 |
| RoyK | mgw: no, ubuntu-zfs is fuse-based, dead slow | 18:44 |
| mgw | RoyK: ok… so I'll need to download the package from http://zfsonlinux.org/ | 18:47 |
| RoyK | mhm | 18:47 |
| sarnold | RoyK: neat. thanks :D | 18:48 |
| RoyK | mgw: keep in mind that zfs doesn't support things like expanding a VDEV (that is, a RAIDz1 or RAIDz2 aka RAID-5 or RAID-6) | 18:48 |
| mgw | RoyK: I *think* that would be ok for us. | 18:49 |
| keithzg | xonx: It's only not legally clean to distribute the code compiled into the kernel; but for example a binary module for the kernel is just fine, same as the proprietary NVIDIA blobs are. | 18:49 |
| RoyK | mgw: takes a wee bit more of planning | 18:50 |
| keithzg | ^xnox, I mean. | 18:50 |
| uvirtbot | keithzg: Error: "xnox," is not a valid command. | 18:50 |
| sarnold | I think the zfs modules work in part because the code clearly originated elsewhere, rather than works only on linux. | 18:51 |
| sarnold | it's hard to claim it's a derived work when the primary platform was something else entirely :) | 18:51 |
| mgw | RoyK, xnox, sarnold: thanks for the assistance | 18:52 |
| sarnold | mgw: thanks for asking the question at the right time :) I'd not seen zfsonlinux before. it looks cool. :) | 18:52 |
| mgw | RoyK: is it stable? | 18:54 |
| RoyK | mgw: works for me (tm) | 18:54 |
| RoyK | mgw: and it's used by some large storage providers | 18:54 |
| mgw | ok, great | 18:54 |
| RoyK | mgw: what sort of storage are you planning? | 19:04 |
| mgw | RoyK: you mean the use case, or the type of hardware? | 19:07 |
| RoyK | mgw: both | 19:22 |
| RoyK | mgw: ping? | 19:34 |
| mgw | RoyK: most of my machines have 2x1TB with HW RAID | 19:34 |
| mgw | SATA | 19:34 |
| RoyK | ok | 19:34 |
| RoyK | for that, zfs should work well, that is, for even larger stuff like multihundred terabytes, zfs should work well, if properly planned | 19:35 |
| mgw | I'm wanting to back lxc containers in such a way as to not have to replicate the 500MB ubuntu files for every container…. does zfs have a versioning system that would allow that? | 19:36 |
| lifeless | mgw: have a look at lxc-start-ephemeral | 19:36 |
| lifeless | mgw: which does exactly that | 19:36 |
| RoyK | mgw: somehow, yes, you can clone a filesystem which will make it dedup what's there, but not the new stuff | 19:36 |
| RoyK | mgw: you can turn on dedup on the dataset, but it'll require large amounts of RAM to run efficiently | 19:37 |
| mgw | lifeless: lxc-start-ephemeral… so the / filesystem would be read only/shared? | 19:37 |
| lifeless | mgw: have a look at the script; it should answer your questions :) | 19:38 |
| mgw | (looking at man now) | 19:38 |
| stuxlof | I'm running ubuntu 11.10 x86_64 with a dell h700 raid controller containing megaraid sas firmware. I'm not sure if I either need to install megasasctl or megacli. I've got megacli64 running but it only gives me an 'Exit Code: 0x00'. Now megasasctl needs some 32 bit libraries (https://github.com/gnif/ARMT/tree/master/utils/megactl) to function, and this is where I'm stuck at atm | 20:23 |
| stuxlof | the megaraid_sas driver is loaded in the kernel | 20:26 |
| mgw | lifeless: do I understand that lxc-start-ephemeral still needs overlayfs? | 20:27 |
| lifeless | or aufs yeah | 20:28 |
| lifeless | you could do a similar script though | 20:28 |
| lifeless | or manually setup your lxc mount tables | 20:29 |
| lifeless | so that you have a readonly fs and a /var/state/myproject that is readwrite | 20:29 |
| mgw | yeah, i'm thinking i'd need to use that script as a ref | 20:29 |
| mgw | but create my own | 20:29 |
| delinquentme | I've got a file I've used for sshfs mounting remote files | 20:45 |
| delinquentme | I want to delete the local version of this file | 20:45 |
| delinquentme | sudo rm -rf localFile/ | 20:45 |
| delinquentme | will do that without removing the content of the remote dir | 20:46 |
| delinquentme | correct? | 20:46 |
| sarnold | delinquentme: does the output of mount show the mount currently active? | 20:48 |
| delinquentme | mount: can't find dopamine_live/ in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab << looks like im good | 20:51 |
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| Darkstar1 | I can't seem login via ssh. I'm on 12.04 | 22:17 |
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| RoyK | Darkstar1: what error message? | 22:22 |
| Darkstar1 | None. I think the server was hacked | 22:23 |
| Darkstar1 | just looking through the bash history | 22:23 |
| RoyK | lots of nice stuff? ;) | 22:23 |
| Darkstar1 | it seems someone got in yesterday and unpacked something called portuser. | 22:24 |
| Darkstar1 | Just trying to get ssh back | 22:24 |
| Darkstar1 | ssh logs to system normally right? | 22:25 |
| RoyK | Darkstar1: try rkhunter and chkrootkit | 22:25 |
| Darkstar1 | RoyK: It's a remote vm | 22:26 |
| Darkstar1 | but I'll look at those toools | 22:26 |
| RoyK | they attempt to do the same job, but may overlap a bit | 22:26 |
| RoyK | Darkstar1: yiu can run those on a remote machine | 22:26 |
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| Darkstar1 | Think I need to boot into single user mode | 22:30 |
| sarnold | Darkstar1: best would be taking the machine entirely offline and inspecting the filesystem from a known-good system. preferably a known-good system you can throw away when you're done. | 22:32 |
| Darkstar1 | sarnold: thing is I don't know what to look for tbh. I looked at the history of bash and managed to find the one thing that was installed. What that thing did I do not know, but I removed the compromised user and inspecting the bash history has allowed me to remove the unpacked stuff | 22:35 |
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| sarnold | Darkstar1: check especially for unexpected dot files in all directories, debsums mismatches, unexpected kernel modules, etc. | 22:36 |
| Darkstar1 | debsums? | 22:36 |
| sarnold | Darkstar1: debsums checks the sizes / hashes of dpkg-managed files, it's a useful way to get a quick overview of what might have changed if an installed rootkit is pretty amateurish | 22:37 |
| Darkstar1 | ok. | 22:39 |
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| crass | something has changed wrt to how ubuntu handles inactive lvm vgs within the last few releases | 23:52 |
| crass | any one have ideas on how to really release all resources using a vg so that I can luksClose the underlying device? | 23:52 |
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