=== virusuy_ is now known as virusuy === acrocity is now known as Guest44945 [01:21] Need some help reconfiguring Grub after restoring to a new VM. Can anyone help me with the instructions here: I restored a Tar backup to a new VM. Now I need to reconfigure Grub. Need some help with the commands found here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem/TAR. Would anyone mind helping?? === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away === jtv2 is now known as jtv [02:47] sshfs is supposed to create the mount dir on execution right? [02:47] im getting a complaint from bash: fuse: bad mount point `/home/thrive/www': No such file or directory [02:48] delinquentme: no, a directory needs to exist somewhere before you can mount a filesystem on it [02:51] sarnold, much apreesh [04:35] question mod_security comes on 12.04 as 2.6.3 and the current version is 2.7.5 is it ok to stay with 2.6.3 ? I though we where supposed to use LTS for things like this. === freeflying is now known as freeflying_away === freeflying_away is now known as freeflying === smb` is now known as smb [07:49] Daviey: I'm looking at http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/ubuntu-server/merges.html. It looked truncated; then I realised that it's being updated as I read it. What do you think about changing the cronjob to write to a temporary file and then renaming in, so we get an atomic update? Not worth it for the one time I hit the problem? :) [08:30] rbasak: Yeah, i can do that. [08:31] rbasak: if you saw this crontab... you'd be wishing we had wrappers :) [08:31] (busy) [08:31] :) [08:36] rbasak: should be good now [08:36] Daviey: thanks! [09:01] zul: hey, can you check if kombu can be sync'd? kombu 2.5.12-0ubuntu2 -> 2.5.12-1 [09:02] jamespage: looks like gdisk can be sync'd? === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte [09:12] Daviey, probably [11:37] zul, trying to build ceilometer for the tests, but having a lot of RuntimeError: No 'ceilometer.storage' driver found, looking for '' [11:43] yolanda: yeah ill have a look at it today [11:43] i was trying to build ceilometer to run the tests, do you prefer that i wait for it? [11:47] yolanda: yeah [11:47] ok [11:47] zul, please let me know when it's fixed so i can add my tests [11:52] jamespage/roaksoax: https://code.launchpad.net/~zulcss/python-novaclient/babel/+merge/182367 [12:04] hello i need to setup a ftp server for some internal use the only thing i need to be able to configure is chroot which is the most easy ftp server to set this up [12:05] wsk233: I've always liked proftpd if I *really* had to setup a plain ftp server, I much prefer using sftp. [12:05] ofcrouse i understand [12:08] jamespage: https://code.launchpad.net/~zulcss/python-neutronclient/deps-refresh/+merge/182372 [12:16] Daviey: should be ok to sync === natefinch is now known as natefinch-afk === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte [12:40] I'd like to run the server iso from an iso on a filesystem on a usb stick. Is this possible? [12:41] this can be done using the loopback.cfg with the desktop iso, but server's loopback.cfg just has an entry for testing the iso, not actually running it [12:57] what should I be allowing through the firewall to stop a DNS lookup failure when doing a proxypass? [12:58] outgoing is allowed... I don't see the problem === dduffey_afk is now known as dduffey === acrocity_ is now known as acrocity [14:25] zul: if/when my laptop(s) overheat can you step in for a few mins in the virt stack talk (in 1.5 hrs) [14:26] hallyn_: sure [14:26] thx [14:28] hallyn_: if my network connection doesnt crap out on me :) [14:28] sbux? [14:28] hallyn_: rural internet [14:46] i have a vlan interface on top of bond(active-backup) interface on top of 2 physical interfaces. I recently upgraded from 10.04 to 12.04 and suddenly I see a lot of dropped packets on my bond0 and the inactive underlying eth interface. same problem on 3.2, 3.5, 3.8, 3.9 kernels. it seems about a 1/5 of received packets are dropped. my cards use igb module (intel 82576). has anybody come across this? [14:47] i've tried juniper and procurve switches [14:54] roaksoax: mind +1ing https://code.launchpad.net/~zulcss/python-novaclient/babel/+merge/182367 and https://code.launchpad.net/~zulcss/python-neutronclient/deps-refresh/+merge/182372 please [14:54] yolanda: ceilometer should be fine now [14:54] zul: done === freeflying is now known as freeflying_away [14:55] zul, thx [14:55] thanks [14:55] disposable, works great for me [15:03] patdk-wk: if you type ifconfig bond0, do you not see any dropped packets? [15:08] oh, that, your suppost to see that [15:08] every single multicast/broadcast packet it sends out one nic, will be dropped when it's received on the other nic [15:10] patdk-wk: i'd understand seeing dropped packets on the ethX device that isn't the current slave, but not on bond0 [15:11] patdk-wk: on your bond0 interface is the number of dropped packets also around 1/5 of all received? [15:20] 1/230th [15:20] patdk-wk: thanks. [15:20] it exactly matchs the received and dropped count of my backup nic [15:21] patdk-wk: yes, same here. [15:21] so that easily explains it [15:21] it's a backup, anything received isn't suppost to be, and is a dup [15:21] and is dropped [15:21] as I said [15:21] patdk-wk: weird thing is that every couple of reboots i get 0 dropped packets. [15:21] by couple i mean >20 [15:28] anyone have ideas on how to deploy a cloned copy of Ubuntu faster? I need to change passwords (mysql and linux) and settings faster then doing everything by hand... if possible http://askubuntu.com/questions/337503/easiest-solution-to-modifying-linux-mysql-passwords-and-other-settings-after-c [15:30] Shadowandlight: i'd suggest chef/puppet/cfengine but that may be too much overhead if you're just changing a few things. in your case i'd simply start clusterssh, log into all machines at once and just click into individual windows to enter different passwords. [15:34] do the config tools run locally or do they need to be web based like webmind / cloudmin? [15:52] are there any reccomendations for a php ppa? I'm trying to get newer version stuff for a 12.04 server [15:55] jamespage, smoser is there goingto be a Server IRC meeting today since there is 1308 vUDS? [15:56] arosales, nope [15:56] can't do sessions and irc meeting at the same time [15:57] jamespage, ok [15:57] jamespage, I thought so just wanted to confirm [16:00] arosales, i say no [16:01] smoser, ack thanks. I'll put a reminder in ubuntu-meeting since we didn't get a mail out to the list [16:01] or I may have missed it if it did go out :-) [16:23] Shadowandlight: unfortunately, chef/puppet require installation of ruby and lots of additional software. cfengine is smaller and faster but with the steepest learning curve. for clusterssh, you just need ssh. [16:33] disposable: is there a real world problem with pulling in all this "overhead"? apt-get does it automatically for you, and it doesn't use a significant amount of space on an installed server node. I also don't like the ruby dependency, but I don't think it'd affect my recommendiation to look into chef/puppet over anything else. [16:54] Is there a good way to set environment variables when calling lxc-attach? I need something like --clear-env plus a few extra values. [16:58] hallyn_: If I might trouble you, any ideas? ^ [16:58] wedgwood: I call env after lxc-attach. lxc-attach --clear-env ... -- env foo=bar my_command [16:59] rbasak: ah, I'll give that a shot. there are ~a dozen things to set in some cases, but I still think that could be manageable [17:25] ok. i have a stupid question. [17:26] i wnat to make 'cloud-utils' package basically only depend on another package now. [17:26] transitional if you will. [17:28] wedgwood: had to look back at the changelog; right now rbasak's is the best option. There is code for 'extra_keep_env', but it's not yet hooked up to the cli [17:29] smoser: what is your q? (does it belong in -devel? :) [17:29] i think its never mind. [17:30] ok :) [17:30] smoser: yeah that would work [17:30] smoser: cloud-utils would become a transitional package indeed [17:31] smoser: or you could make it a meta-package [17:31] whats a meta-package specifically ? a task? [17:31] smoser: no, a metapackage are packages that simply depend on others and do not install anything [17:31] example? [17:32] smoser: for example, 'maas' is a metapackage that installs 'maas-region-controller', 'maas-cluster-controller' [17:32] perfect. thank you. [17:33] smoser: now, transitional packages are usually needed for upgrades === giovani_ is now known as giovani [18:11] hey all, I've been looking into Landscape to help manage a private server and I was wondering if I install the landscape-client package, and decide later that I don't want it, will it break the server if I remove it? [18:12] gartral: I had no trouble on my machine removing the landscape client after playing with it for a few weeks [18:13] sarnold: and exactly how much IS the Landscape service, I'm quite dismayed and put off by Cononical's secrecy on that subject [18:14] gartral: heh, I'm sorry I can't actually fix that :) I had a free account on account of being an employee... [18:17] gartral: hey! this looks like it. :) http://www.canonical.com/enterprise-services/ubuntu-advantage/server [18:18] sarnold: 320 USD *PER SERVER*?! holey crap! never mind that! [18:19] gartral: yes that seems a bit steep if landscape is the only part of the plan you want [18:21] sarnold: yea.. I was thinking it would be like $10-20 US/year for a single server.. $320 is far, far *far* too rich for my blood [18:23] gartral: yes, it looks like it was priced to be competitive against rhel and sles: https://www.redhat.com/apps/store/server/ https://www.suse.com/products/server/how-to-buy/ [18:25] sarnold: yea.. I'd rather just run my single server through an SSH console.. [18:25] gartral: and perhaps the "unattented-upgrades" package would provide a lot of what you'd want from landscape anyway === natefinch-afk is now known as natefinch [18:38] Is btrfs recommended for general use on server machines? I'm interested to use in conjunction with lxc. As I understand it, this will help reduce disk usage from duplicated container file systems. [18:41] mgw: btrfs is not recommended for production systems [18:41] RoyK, thanks [18:41] mgw: you can equally use overlayfs or lvm snapshots for that. [18:41] mgw: afaik btrfs doesn't have any dedup stuff yet [18:42] mgw: which are more stable than btrfs. [18:42] xnox: 'cept lvm snapshots are dead slow :P [18:42] xnox: thanks, looking at overlayfs [18:42] RoyK: well dedup is being packaged by me, soon ;-) [18:42] mgw: try zfs [18:42] RoyK: not in my testing. [18:42] RoyK: is the zfs support entirely via fuse? [18:42] mgw: zfs has a decent dedup implementation if you have *lots* of memory [18:43] sarnold: there's zfsonlinux - separate ppa [18:43] * xnox wouldn't recommend zfs on linux to anyone. Solaris or Freebsd maybe. [18:43] sarnold: works well [18:43] sarnold: zfsonlinux is not legally clean. [18:43] RoyK: hrm. how is that legal? [18:43] aha :) hehe [18:43] xnox: heh - I've worked with zfs on rather large systems, as in quater of a petabyte, works well [18:43] RoyK: linux? [18:43] sarnold: it's legal, it's legal to download and install non-gpl software on your own [18:44] sarnold: zfsonlinux does just that [18:44] ubuntu-zfs is zfsonlinux? [18:44] sarnold: it's like graphics drives that compile on install [18:44] mgw: no, ubuntu-zfs is fuse-based, dead slow [18:47] RoyK: ok… so I'll need to download the package from http://zfsonlinux.org/ [18:47] mhm [18:48] RoyK: neat. thanks :D [18:48] mgw: keep in mind that zfs doesn't support things like expanding a VDEV (that is, a RAIDz1 or RAIDz2 aka RAID-5 or RAID-6) [18:49] RoyK: I *think* that would be ok for us. [18:49] xonx: It's only not legally clean to distribute the code compiled into the kernel; but for example a binary module for the kernel is just fine, same as the proprietary NVIDIA blobs are. [18:50] mgw: takes a wee bit more of planning [18:50] ^xnox, I mean. [18:50] keithzg: Error: "xnox," is not a valid command. [18:51] I think the zfs modules work in part because the code clearly originated elsewhere, rather than works only on linux. [18:51] it's hard to claim it's a derived work when the primary platform was something else entirely :) [18:52] RoyK, xnox, sarnold: thanks for the assistance [18:52] mgw: thanks for asking the question at the right time :) I'd not seen zfsonlinux before. it looks cool. :) [18:54] RoyK: is it stable? [18:54] mgw: works for me (tm) [18:54] mgw: and it's used by some large storage providers [18:54] ok, great [19:04] mgw: what sort of storage are you planning? [19:07] RoyK: you mean the use case, or the type of hardware? [19:22] mgw: both [19:34] mgw: ping? [19:34] RoyK: most of my machines have 2x1TB with HW RAID [19:34] SATA [19:34] ok [19:35] for that, zfs should work well, that is, for even larger stuff like multihundred terabytes, zfs should work well, if properly planned [19:36] I'm wanting to back lxc containers in such a way as to not have to replicate the 500MB ubuntu files for every container…. does zfs have a versioning system that would allow that? [19:36] mgw: have a look at lxc-start-ephemeral [19:36] mgw: which does exactly that [19:36] mgw: somehow, yes, you can clone a filesystem which will make it dedup what's there, but not the new stuff [19:37] mgw: you can turn on dedup on the dataset, but it'll require large amounts of RAM to run efficiently [19:37] lifeless: lxc-start-ephemeral… so the / filesystem would be read only/shared? [19:38] mgw: have a look at the script; it should answer your questions :) [19:38] (looking at man now) [20:23] I'm running ubuntu 11.10 x86_64 with a dell h700 raid controller containing megaraid sas firmware. I'm not sure if I either need to install megasasctl or megacli. I've got megacli64 running but it only gives me an 'Exit Code: 0x00'. Now megasasctl needs some 32 bit libraries (https://github.com/gnif/ARMT/tree/master/utils/megactl) to function, and this is where I'm stuck at atm [20:26] the megaraid_sas driver is loaded in the kernel [20:27] lifeless: do I understand that lxc-start-ephemeral still needs overlayfs? [20:28] or aufs yeah [20:28] you could do a similar script though [20:29] or manually setup your lxc mount tables [20:29] so that you have a readonly fs and a /var/state/myproject that is readwrite [20:29] yeah, i'm thinking i'd need to use that script as a ref [20:29] but create my own [20:45] I've got a file I've used for sshfs mounting remote files [20:45] I want to delete the local version of this file [20:45] sudo rm -rf localFile/ [20:46] will do that without removing the content of the remote dir [20:46] correct? [20:48] delinquentme: does the output of mount show the mount currently active? [20:51] mount: can't find dopamine_live/ in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab << looks like im good === freeflying_away is now known as freeflying === dduffey is now known as dduffey_afk [22:17] I can't seem login via ssh. I'm on 12.04 === Jikan is now known as Jikai [22:22] Darkstar1: what error message? [22:23] None. I think the server was hacked [22:23] just looking through the bash history [22:23] lots of nice stuff? ;) [22:24] it seems someone got in yesterday and unpacked something called portuser. [22:24] Just trying to get ssh back [22:25] ssh logs to system normally right? [22:25] Darkstar1: try rkhunter and chkrootkit [22:26] RoyK: It's a remote vm [22:26] but I'll look at those toools [22:26] they attempt to do the same job, but may overlap a bit [22:26] Darkstar1: yiu can run those on a remote machine === nxvl_ is now known as nxvl [22:30] Think I need to boot into single user mode [22:32] Darkstar1: best would be taking the machine entirely offline and inspecting the filesystem from a known-good system. preferably a known-good system you can throw away when you're done. [22:35] sarnold: thing is I don't know what to look for tbh. I looked at the history of bash and managed to find the one thing that was installed. What that thing did I do not know, but I removed the compromised user and inspecting the bash history has allowed me to remove the unpacked stuff === raininja is now known as jekel [22:36] Darkstar1: check especially for unexpected dot files in all directories, debsums mismatches, unexpected kernel modules, etc. [22:36] debsums? [22:37] Darkstar1: debsums checks the sizes / hashes of dpkg-managed files, it's a useful way to get a quick overview of what might have changed if an installed rootkit is pretty amateurish [22:39] ok. === Jikai is now known as Jikan [23:52] something has changed wrt to how ubuntu handles inactive lvm vgs within the last few releases [23:52] any one have ideas on how to really release all resources using a vg so that I can luksClose the underlying device?