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=== udsbotu changed the topic of #ubuntu-uds-client-2 to: Track: Client | Oxide: using the Chromium Content API in Ubuntu | Url: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1308/meeting/21932/client-1308-oxide/ | ||
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ryanprior | session starting? | 15:06 |
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seb128 | in a bit, plenary overrun | 15:07 |
rickspencer3 | hi ryanprior | 15:07 |
rickspencer3 | probably will take a minute or two for the organizers to set it up | 15:07 |
rickspencer3 | and then there is the slight lag | 15:07 |
qengho | How long is the lag these days? 45 seconds? | 15:08 |
seb128 | qengho, chrisccoulson, chrisccoulson2: https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/78ddd832135a6ec210e7fa014ac7d2b560b35935?authuser=0 | 15:09 |
seb128 | if you want to join the hangout | 15:09 |
seb128 | others^ | 15:09 |
* jdstrand joins | 15:09 | |
seb128 | qengho, coming? | 15:10 |
qengho | seb128: I am. | 15:10 |
seb128 | great | 15:11 |
jdstrand | anyone else want to join? maybe from webapps? | 15:11 |
qengho | I'm trying. The trouble with running a browser that you just built for testing. ... | 15:13 |
ryanprior | I would join the hangout but I'm audio-only, no video | 15:13 |
ryanprior | is that acceptable? | 15:13 |
jdstrand | pmcgowan: can someone from webapps join the hangout? | 15:15 |
seb128 | jdstrand, pmcgowan: alex-abreu says he's joining | 15:15 |
seb128 | he had tz confusion | 15:15 |
pmcgowan | seb128, let me know if he doesnt join | 15:16 |
seb128 | pmcgowan, he's on the hangout, all good | 15:17 |
pmcgowan | great | 15:17 |
qengho | For history, is zeitgeist a good place to store it? | 15:32 |
bfiller | we've been talking about transitioning to u1db to store history in browser | 15:34 |
bfiller | currently using sqllite | 15:34 |
bfiller | is there a good reason to divert from that plan? | 15:34 |
qengho | bfiller: I think Olivier / oSoMoN was planning something like that. | 15:36 |
qengho | bfiller: Oh, I misunderstood. | 15:37 |
qengho | bfiller: Hrm. Another DB to consider. | 15:37 |
achiang | i may have missed the beginning of the session -- when is most of this work targeted to land? | 15:40 |
achiang | jdstrand: ^^ | 15:40 |
qengho | achiang: before 14.04. No prograstinating because of 13.10 though. | 15:41 |
achiang | qengho: ok, so for 13.10, continue with existing qtwebkit stuff; then as soon as 14.04 dev opens up, switch over to oxide development? | 15:42 |
achiang | chrisccoulson: oSoMoN: ^^ did i get that right? | 15:42 |
qengho | achiang: We *hope* it's just an import change, so yes. | 15:43 |
achiang | qengho: hm... not sure how to reconcile your statement with this blueprint i'm staring at that has lots of WIs :) | 15:43 |
achiang | chrisccoulson: thanks. guess i'm wondering what happens with the existing web app stuff that's in-flight that folks are hacking on for 13.10... | 15:45 |
achiang | i'm concerned because we're trying to "stabilize" to the extent we can for OEMs :-/ | 15:46 |
=== udsbotu changed the topic of #ubuntu-uds-client-2 to: Track: Client | Push Notifications (v0) | Url: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1308/meeting/21935/client-1308-push-notifications/ | ||
robru | no video? | 16:09 |
seb128 | robru, starting it, I was waiting for the session lead to join | 16:10 |
robru | ah | 16:10 |
seb128 | but seems he's on holidays | 16:10 |
* kenvandine nominates dobey, because dobey rocks! | 16:11 | |
seb128 | ;-) | 16:11 |
* dobey is just lurking | 16:12 | |
kenvandine | lucio is coming | 16:13 |
seb128 | https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/be9944c51c1acb76b3ae351abb663eff69f38489?authuser=0 | 16:16 |
seb128 | http://youtu.be/7HGbXSAW1K8 | 16:17 |
seb128 | ^ video link | 16:17 |
SimonK1 | it's streeming. | 16:18 |
alecu | yay | 16:18 |
alecu | Q: are we planning only one connection from the phone to our server to be multiplexed for all apps? | 16:23 |
alecu | __lucio__: sounds like dropped packets | 16:27 |
lool | https://lists.launchpad.net/ubuntu-push-devs/msg00000.html | 16:29 |
__lucio__ | alecu, yes. one connection by the client daemon, used by all apps | 16:31 |
__lucio__ | bye bye netwrok? | 16:33 |
SimonK1 | QUESTION: how will the server filter which messages my phone gets? | 16:36 |
alecu | things to consider: reconnections on clients: exponential backoff + random time (to avoid ddos after server outages) | 16:40 |
__lucio__ | SimonK1, we plan to have the user select the filters they want, but not for v0. | 16:42 |
SimonK1 | How is the "push"-indicator different from the "messages"-indicator? | 16:43 |
dobey | SimonK1: all notifications aren't messages | 16:44 |
SimonK1 | lucio, I meant a different filter (with "broadcasting" in mind) but broadcasting dosn't seem to be planned for v0 | 16:44 |
dobey | v0 is a way to get a working API for validating it's the right API to move forward with, not so much an actual server | 16:45 |
dobey | (hence the v0 not being v1) | 16:46 |
alecu | Q: do we have a list of use cases for this? | 16:46 |
SimonK1 | dobey, I think about push-notification like "new information arrived on your device". This would perfectly fit into the messages-indicator. If we don't merge those two we would end up with two indicators for "new informations". | 16:48 |
dobey | SimonK1: no. messages indicator is for messages from other people, such as IM/twitter/e-mail/etc | 16:48 |
dobey | push notifications don't necessarily need to have any UI displayed to the user at all | 16:49 |
dobey | it depends on what the notification is | 16:49 |
SimonK1 | i see, makes sense. | 16:50 |
SimonK1 | so in case of other question I'll ask at the ubuntu-push-devs mailing list. Thanks for the provided infos :) | 16:52 |
istimsak | hello guys | 16:54 |
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=== udsbotu changed the topic of #ubuntu-uds-client-2 to: Track: Client | Accessibility in Ubuntu Touch 14.04 | Url: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1308/meeting/21947/client-1308-touch-1404-a11y/ | ||
seb128 | TheMuso, the hangout is open on https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/ff15e632070786351f22a797e5fcf553212c43a8?authuser=0 | 18:04 |
seb128 | TheMuso, share the url with the people you want in the session please | 18:04 |
TheMuso | Ok, just trying to work out if anybody is going to attend... | 18:05 |
AlanBell | I was going to watch or review the video later | 18:06 |
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zyga | hi, question, is this in scope: providing keyboard navigation to apps developed with Ubuntu SDK, that are running on a desktop | 18:10 |
pmcgowan | greyback_, you're a unity dev! | 18:12 |
greyback_ | pmcgowan: I dropped out there | 18:12 |
zyga | thanks, I see what you mean | 18:13 |
zyga | not navigation, just basic tab-tab-tab support | 18:13 |
greyback_ | Out of curiosity, what do the KDE/Kubuntu people use? | 18:29 |
CheeseBurg | I'm late! | 18:33 |
CheeseBurg | Not sure what was discussed but have you consider blind and deaf users. I have friends who work in that field and it is an extremely important | 18:37 |
CheeseBurg | not just brail but audio for every action | 18:39 |
elopio | thanks! | 18:46 |
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