=== udsbotu changed the topic of #ubuntu-uds-client-2 to: Currently no events are active in this room - http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1305/client-2/ - http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2013/08/27/%23ubuntu-uds-client-2.html === udsbotu changed the topic of #ubuntu-uds-client-2 to: Currently no events are active in this room - http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1308/client-2/ - http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2013/08/27/%23ubuntu-uds-client-2.html === dednick is now known as dednick|lunch === udsbotu changed the topic of #ubuntu-uds-client-2 to: Track: Client | Oxide: using the Chromium Content API in Ubuntu | Url: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1308/meeting/21932/client-1308-oxide/ === dednick|lunch is now known as dednick [15:06] session starting? [15:07] in a bit, plenary overrun [15:07] hi ryanprior [15:07] probably will take a minute or two for the organizers to set it up [15:07] and then there is the slight lag [15:08] How long is the lag these days? 45 seconds? [15:09] qengho, chrisccoulson, chrisccoulson2: https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/78ddd832135a6ec210e7fa014ac7d2b560b35935?authuser=0 [15:09] if you want to join the hangout [15:09] others^ [15:09] * jdstrand joins [15:10] qengho, coming? [15:10] seb128: I am. [15:11] great [15:11] anyone else want to join? maybe from webapps? [15:13] I'm trying. The trouble with running a browser that you just built for testing. ... [15:13] I would join the hangout but I'm audio-only, no video [15:13] is that acceptable? [15:15] pmcgowan: can someone from webapps join the hangout? [15:15] jdstrand, pmcgowan: alex-abreu says he's joining [15:15] he had tz confusion [15:16] seb128, let me know if he doesnt join [15:17] pmcgowan, he's on the hangout, all good [15:17] great [15:32] For history, is zeitgeist a good place to store it? [15:34] we've been talking about transitioning to u1db to store history in browser [15:34] currently using sqllite [15:34] is there a good reason to divert from that plan? [15:36] bfiller: I think Olivier / oSoMoN was planning something like that. [15:37] bfiller: Oh, I misunderstood. [15:37] bfiller: Hrm. Another DB to consider. [15:40] i may have missed the beginning of the session -- when is most of this work targeted to land? [15:40] jdstrand: ^^ [15:41] achiang: before 14.04. No prograstinating because of 13.10 though. [15:42] qengho: ok, so for 13.10, continue with existing qtwebkit stuff; then as soon as 14.04 dev opens up, switch over to oxide development? [15:42] chrisccoulson: oSoMoN: ^^ did i get that right? [15:43] achiang: We *hope* it's just an import change, so yes. [15:43] qengho: hm... not sure how to reconcile your statement with this blueprint i'm staring at that has lots of WIs :) [15:45] chrisccoulson: thanks. guess i'm wondering what happens with the existing web app stuff that's in-flight that folks are hacking on for 13.10... [15:46] i'm concerned because we're trying to "stabilize" to the extent we can for OEMs :-/ === udsbotu changed the topic of #ubuntu-uds-client-2 to: Track: Client | Push Notifications (v0) | Url: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1308/meeting/21935/client-1308-push-notifications/ [16:09] no video? [16:10] robru, starting it, I was waiting for the session lead to join [16:10] ah [16:10] but seems he's on holidays [16:11] * kenvandine nominates dobey, because dobey rocks! [16:11] ;-) [16:12] * dobey is just lurking [16:13] lucio is coming [16:16] https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/be9944c51c1acb76b3ae351abb663eff69f38489?authuser=0 [16:17] http://youtu.be/7HGbXSAW1K8 [16:17] ^ video link [16:18] it's streeming. [16:18] yay [16:23] Q: are we planning only one connection from the phone to our server to be multiplexed for all apps? [16:27] __lucio__: sounds like dropped packets [16:29] https://lists.launchpad.net/ubuntu-push-devs/msg00000.html [16:31] <__lucio__> alecu, yes. one connection by the client daemon, used by all apps [16:33] <__lucio__> bye bye netwrok? [16:36] QUESTION: how will the server filter which messages my phone gets? [16:40] things to consider: reconnections on clients: exponential backoff + random time (to avoid ddos after server outages) [16:42] <__lucio__> SimonK1, we plan to have the user select the filters they want, but not for v0. [16:43] How is the "push"-indicator different from the "messages"-indicator? [16:44] SimonK1: all notifications aren't messages [16:44] lucio, I meant a different filter (with "broadcasting" in mind) but broadcasting dosn't seem to be planned for v0 [16:45] v0 is a way to get a working API for validating it's the right API to move forward with, not so much an actual server [16:46] (hence the v0 not being v1) [16:46] Q: do we have a list of use cases for this? [16:48] dobey, I think about push-notification like "new information arrived on your device". This would perfectly fit into the messages-indicator. If we don't merge those two we would end up with two indicators for "new informations". [16:48] SimonK1: no. messages indicator is for messages from other people, such as IM/twitter/e-mail/etc [16:49] push notifications don't necessarily need to have any UI displayed to the user at all [16:49] it depends on what the notification is [16:50] i see, makes sense. [16:52] so in case of other question I'll ask at the ubuntu-push-devs mailing list. Thanks for the provided infos :) [16:54] hello guys === udsbotu changed the topic of #ubuntu-uds-client-2 to: Currently no events are active in this room - http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1308/client-2/ - http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2013/08/27/%23ubuntu-uds-client-2.html === udsbotu changed the topic of #ubuntu-uds-client-2 to: Track: Client | Accessibility in Ubuntu Touch 14.04 | Url: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1308/meeting/21947/client-1308-touch-1404-a11y/ [18:04] TheMuso, the hangout is open on https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/ff15e632070786351f22a797e5fcf553212c43a8?authuser=0 [18:04] TheMuso, share the url with the people you want in the session please [18:05] Ok, just trying to work out if anybody is going to attend... [18:06] I was going to watch or review the video later === olli_ is now known as olli [18:10] hi, question, is this in scope: providing keyboard navigation to apps developed with Ubuntu SDK, that are running on a desktop [18:12] greyback_, you're a unity dev! [18:12] pmcgowan: I dropped out there [18:13] thanks, I see what you mean [18:13] not navigation, just basic tab-tab-tab support [18:29] Out of curiosity, what do the KDE/Kubuntu people use? [18:33] I'm late! [18:37] Not sure what was discussed but have you consider blind and deaf users. I have friends who work in that field and it is an extremely important [18:39] not just brail but audio for every action [18:46] thanks! === udsbotu changed the topic of #ubuntu-uds-client-2 to: Currently no events are active in this room - http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1308/client-2/ - http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2013/08/27/%23ubuntu-uds-client-2.html === bfiller is now known as bfiller_afk