=== at is now known as Guest6835 === edo is now known as Guest95282 [02:37] * Guest95282 slaps Guest95282 around a bit with a large trout [02:37] * Guest95282 slaps Guest95282 around a bit with a large trout === udsbotu changed the topic of #ubuntu-uds-plenary to: Currently no events are active in this room - http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1305/plenary/ - http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2013/08/27/%23ubuntu-uds-plenary.html [13:02] does this start in 3 hours? === udsbotu changed the topic of #ubuntu-uds-plenary to: Currently no events are active in this room - http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1308/plenary/ - http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2013/08/27/%23ubuntu-uds-plenary.html [13:08] 14 utc is in 50 minutes [13:08] morning all [13:10] netcurli, the bots are British. They enjoy to come soon at sessions. [13:43] On time, sweet [13:44] :3 === krish is now known as Guest54290 [13:46] hi !! [13:47] are we going to start [13:47] ?? [13:47] 13 minutes [13:48] hey all [13:49] heya [13:50] Sup === udsbotu changed the topic of #ubuntu-uds-plenary to: Track: | Intro by Jono Bacon | Url: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1308/meeting/21887/intro-and-keynote/ [13:50] I'm really excited, I missed the intro last time [13:51] is this being recorded? [13:51] Yea it is [13:51] ikt, yep [13:51] all sessions are recorded :-) [13:54] hi [13:54] * adarsh slaps cjohnston around a bit with a large trout [13:54] hi [13:54] hi [13:54] uhh [13:54] * smartboyhw waves to watch jono's face [13:55] * Timsgo slaps cyball around a bit with a large trout [13:55] * Timsgo slaps cyball around a bit with a large trout [13:55] * Timsgo slaps cyball around a bit with a large trout [13:55] * Timsgo slaps cyball around a bit with a large trout [13:55] * Timsgo slaps cyball around a bit with a large trout [13:55] * Timsgo slaps cyball around a bit with a large trout [13:55] * Timsgo slaps cyball around a bit with a large trout [13:55] * Timsgo slaps cyball around a bit with a large trout [13:55] * Timsgo slaps udsbotu around a bit with a large trout [13:55] * Timsgo slaps udsbotu around a bit with a large trout [13:55] * Timsgo slaps udsbotu around a bit with a large trout [13:55] * Timsgo slaps udsbotu around a bit with a large trout [13:55] * Timsgo slaps udsbotu around a bit with a large trout [13:55] * Timsgo slaps udsbotu around a bit with a large trout [13:55] * Timsgo slaps udsbotu around a bit with a large trout [13:55] * Timsgo slaps udsbotu around a bit with a large trout [13:55] * Timsgo slaps udsbotu around a bit with a large trout [13:55] * Timsgo slaps udsbotu around a bit with a large trout [13:55] * Timsgo slaps udsbotu around a bit with a large trout [13:55] * Timsgo slaps udsbotu around a bit with a large trout [13:55] * Timsgo slaps Timsgo around a bit with a large trout [13:55] !irc [13:55] A list of official Ubuntu IRC channels, as well as IRC clients for Ubuntu, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat - For a general list of !freenode channels, see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#channellist - See also !Guidelines [13:55] !ops [13:55] Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - elky, Madpilot, tritium, Nalioth, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici, jpds, gnomefreak, bazhang, Flannel, ikonia, maco, h00k, IdleOne, bkerensa, nhandler, Jordan_U, DJones or k1l! [13:55] whatever it is [13:56] 4 more minutes? [13:56] how much more time? [13:57] https://www.filepicker.io/api/file/FTs3BGvQAGAEtrkIEwAW [13:57] 4 minutes yep [13:57] Please, be patient:) [13:57] Hmm, can anyone launch Chromium and go the session page? [13:57] I can't see 1. notes 2. webchat [13:57] Only the video [13:58] * Timsgo slaps udsbotu around a bit with a large trout [13:58] * Timsgo slaps ChanServ around a bit with a large trout [13:58] Timsgo, STOP SPAMMINGT [13:58] I'm in Chromium [13:58] On the summit page. [13:58] hey guys [13:58] * DS_McGuire slaps Timsgo around a bit with a large trout [13:58] * Timsgo slaps DS_McGuire around a bit with a large trout [13:58] Hello [13:59] Huh, after logging in to the pad using another window now the pad shows up === Narcosis is now known as Guest50385 [13:59] joined [13:59] dixit singla [14:00] * sirra slaps Abhilashorg around a bit with a large trout [14:00] phew, got join/parts off. [14:00] So guys... GS or Unity? [14:00] Unity [14:00] unity. [14:00] unity [14:00] kde [14:00] unity [14:01] unity [14:01] awesomewm [14:01] 7 - Unity 1 KDE [14:01] emacs [14:01] OK, we aren't arguing about DEs here:) [14:01] bbbuuurrraaaaa.... [14:01] @sirra bbbuuurrrraaaaa....... [14:01] when does it begins [14:01] I use a combination of punch cards and a brainwave inducer [14:02] yeaaaah [14:02] o/ [14:02] \o/ [14:02] * Timsgo slaps Joel38603 around a bit with a large trout [14:02] * ogra_ waves === Ian is now known as Guest36646 [14:02] hey jono [14:02] \^_^/ [14:02] o/ [14:02] We;re STARTING [14:02] Joel38603: Howdy! [14:02] Hey jono [14:02] * xnox \o/ yeah =))))) [14:02] hello [14:02] \m/ [14:02] so why doesnt the video work on my android phone :( [14:02] jono: see you here [14:02] cookie [14:02] hey rickspencer3 [14:02] we can see you jono [14:02] hey sexy ;) [14:02] I see you! [14:02] :) [14:02] we see you [14:02] jono: see you too [14:02] jono: Looking good [14:02] hey [14:02] hola! [14:02] I can't see you [14:02] y [14:02] it works [14:02] sup, yep live and loud Jono [14:02] up loud and clear [14:02] works [14:02] jono: looking good [14:02] play a gig [14:02] we can hear you!! [14:02] up [14:02] works superb [14:02] refreshing did it for me === jimmy_why_did_yo is now known as jimmyStoleMyNick [14:03] works awesome! [14:03] Oh, I have you now :D [14:03] jono, get yourself a better house (at least match sabdfl's) :P [14:03] here we go === petros is now known as Guest89325 [14:03] yay :) [14:03] jono, lound, clear, visual [14:03] great [14:03] wokrinf [14:03] bah [14:03] Works [14:03] doesnt work on my desktop either === Guest89325 is now known as petros__ === wards is now known as wardsegers === megatron is now known as Guest71873 [14:04] How many viewers are there? [14:04] Looks like glimpses of mark there :) [14:04] * ogra_ would love to be a viewer if the video would work at all [14:04] ogra_, huh === AndreW is now known as Guest28955 [14:04] Hi everybody [14:04] "your browser doe not support the required video formats" [14:04] *does [14:04] use chrome [14:05] i get that in all browsers here [14:05] do u use ie 5 XD [14:05] :D === Guest71873 is now known as elctrotron [14:05] lol [14:05] is it html5 or flash? === Mauricio is now known as Mauricio_Ocampo [14:05] flash probably [14:05] fanys, chrome or FF doesnt seem to matter, i tried on 4 different installs (and releases) and on android [14:05] orga_ do you have flash? [14:05] flash [14:05] looks pretty slick yea [14:05] if it is flash [14:05] oh, android [14:05] ogra_: are you missing codecs? [14:05] browser is not the prblem [14:05] use computer :P [14:05] nice [14:05] oh ok [14:05] best phone ever =( [14:05] I like 720p [14:05] I can see you. [14:06] mhshow would i on a machine wheer i usually do hangouts ? [14:06] try watching from youtube app [14:06] mhall119, ^^^ [14:06] huh [14:06] * Timsgo slaps Guest36646 around a bit with a large trout === Chaotic is now known as Guest39877 [14:06] grear [14:06] 13.10 worries me. [14:06] Timsgo: please stop [14:06] hi Squirm :p [14:06] nah [14:06] i thought its closed :) [14:06] will be better [14:06] hi Cantide [14:06] i think [14:06] i still use 12.04 [14:06] XD [14:06] I am soon switching to arch linux [14:06] 12.04 too [14:06] I am too lazy now [14:07] but ubuntu is good [14:07] Unity is going to be so kickass! [14:07] yeah [14:07] it is great [14:07] Unity 8* [14:07] push WEB programming to DESKTOP programining without using JS [14:07] actually [14:07] DS_McGuire+1 [14:07] Unity is till a bit resource heavy. [14:07] hola [14:07] i use grome classic desktop XD [14:07] gnome [14:07] I prefer gnome 2 [14:07] and a bit wine unfriendly :/ [14:07] it is getting better by every release so [14:07] i use gnome shell [14:07] mate is better [14:07] gnome classic here [14:07] so Mint MATE works for me [14:07] no need to stay with old versions [14:07] PHProgrammer, how in the world is that going to work? [14:07] unity is good [14:08] *phpprogrammer [14:08] Hi all [14:08] Unity is awesome. By 14.04 I am sure it will be even better with Unity 8. [14:08] hey [14:08] like PyGTK binds for say PHP and XML [14:08] 14.04 won't ship with unity 8 [14:08] it wont? [14:08] A platform still needs to be efficient. [14:08] I prefer JS [14:09] unity 8 set for 14.10 iirc [14:09] Won't there be a test session for Unity 8 in 14.04? === manu is now known as Guest89187 === Guest89187 is now known as pythoniseverywr [14:09] "is set" Mir was pushed forward too minf. [14:09] I'm a Go programmer. I'd like to see an API. [14:09] jono, you are ignoring testers, balloons will be angry [14:09] What about Mir on Nexus 10? [14:09] 14.04 will distributed with mir? [14:09] yes [14:09] I still don't understand why they stop using xour [14:09] petros_, yes [14:09] xorg [14:10] xmir [14:10] xmir === rrnwexec2 is now known as randall [14:10] PHPprogramer: Why not Python :) [14:10] petros_: 13.10 wil ship with mir [14:10] mhall119: not mir, xmir., [14:10] xmir is a layer between mir and x11 [14:10] * koukos slaps mhall119 around a bit with a large trout [14:10] * koukos slaps mhall119 around a bit with a large trout === randall is now known as Guest90647 [14:10] ... [14:10] koukos: please dont [14:10] so, it will had a nested mir into xorg? [14:10] A cloud based application engine is obviously a good way to go. [14:10] xmir requires mir [14:10] so 13.10 is based on mir [14:10] soz [14:11] * spongebob slaps ubuntulog2 around a bit with a large trout [14:11] and 14.10 is based on xmir/? [14:11] will be [14:11] no [14:11] only mir [14:11] 13.10 = xorg fallback, xmir on mir [14:11] 14.xx = mir [14:11] petros_: no, it will have an X server running on top of Mir. [14:11] also 14.04 with xmir but no fallback [14:12] spongebob u-232 [14:12] 14.04 = xmir, 14.10 = mir [14:12] yes, 13.10 will use mir as the system compositor and X11/Unity7 as the session compositor [14:12] the other DEs (gnome, kde, mate, xfce) will they run on mir ? [14:12] aqui todos hablan ingles [14:12] yes with ubuntu [14:12] hello guys [14:12] I think [14:12] dextre: generally yes [14:13] ok [14:13] dextre: εγώ μιλάω και ελληνικά αν σου κάνει... [14:13] petros_: they can run on Mir using XMir yes [14:13] i use gnome remix 12.10 [14:13] xaxaxa kai egw lol [14:13] γεια σου ρε κουκε [14:13] dextre, upgrade to 13.04 [14:13] geia sou petros_ [14:13] It is at least official in 13.04:) [14:13] i cant [14:14] why? [14:14] dextre, ? [14:14] my laptop has uefi [14:14] smartboyhw, we're all a part of the community :-) [14:14] koukos: από που; [14:14] uefi works with 13.04? [14:14] balloons, lol, just that it's unfair to ignore us:) [14:14] karditsa [14:14] Hey amjjawad nice to see you on IRC:) [14:14] and every time i install 13.04 [14:14] incepted, yes [14:14] :) [14:14] koukos: διπλα ειμαι, λαμια... [14:14] UEFI has been supported since 12.04.2 [14:14] ubuntu cant install [14:14] mia xara :P [14:15] well, UEFI has been supported way longer than that [14:15] smartboyhw: hi :) [14:15] always fail grub [14:15] boot with a usb and configure gtub [14:15] amjjawad, why don't you try to come on and stay on IRC more often? ;) [14:15] grub [14:15] dextre, it doesn't install or doesn't boot after installing? [14:15] but if i install 12. this one install very good without problem [14:15] * petros_ is bored of too much blahblah... [14:16] yes this ones boot after install [14:16] smartboyhw: I am not an IRC type :) [14:16] uwot [14:16] after install ubuntu 13 doesnt boot [14:16] amjjawad, IRC will prove to be important as your work inside different flavours are more extensive:) [14:17] dextre: cause u nub [14:17] dextre: whats your problem? === tek is now known as Guest93611 [14:17] dextre, I had problems booting once in my notebook that has uefi so I used boot repair and it was fixed [14:17] urmum: that's inappropriate [14:17] cjwatson: so? [14:17] dextre, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair [14:17] urmum, so don't do it [14:17] urmum: so we have a code of conduct here and calling people names isn't welcome [14:17] General discussion with who? Other random users? [14:17] cjwatson: thats wot ur nan said === wanderer is now known as iwonderandwander [14:18] I'd be happy to look into dextre's problem but perhaps not when I'm about to dive into three days of meetings [14:18] urmum: please stop [14:18] slap him [14:18] We should get IRC ops here.. [14:18] lolol [14:18] cjohnston, hello :) [14:18] \o/ [14:18] \ο/ [14:19] \o/ [14:19] code of coduct, follow it [14:19] and general decency [14:19] but boot repaird i cant install because after install and restart this one send me to the multiboot [14:19] Common sense isn't. [14:19] hi everyone [14:19] and i dont have any option [14:19] ^5 [14:20] dextre: if you have a bug number already where you've filed installation logs from the failed 13.04 install, feel free to pass me the bug number; otherwise it would be useful to have those logs some other way [14:20] dextre, you can download the boot repair image and boot with it, run boot repair tool and it should fix your boot accordingly if you have uefi [14:20] I'm Elementary OS user, but this these screenshots i miss Ubuntu with Unity) [14:20] I'm not at all sure that boot repair knows how to deal with UEFI properly? [14:20] dexter, this chat is really not a good place [14:20] (could be wrong) [14:20] try to write your problem [14:20] in ubuntuforums [14:20] or askubuntu.com [14:20] cjwatson, I had a problem with the new machine I bought and I managed to fix the boot with it [14:20] yeah [14:21] there are "boot repair" images that do deal with UEFI, but I don't know that any of them are called "boot repair" [14:21] it has UEFI, and grub was confused with it, it seemed [14:21] slangasek, http://sourceforge.net/p/boot-repair-cd/home/Home/ [14:21] Don't buy machines built for Windows if you intend to use Linux :P [14:22] Guys i think that here is a channell for the UDS and not a support channel, join the #ubuntu forsupport [14:22] Ursinha: right, that one's from yannubuntu and distinctly does support UEFI :) [14:22] most machines are based on windows [14:22] so [14:22] ;0 [14:22] :) [14:22] sounds good! [14:22] good! [14:22] Hi Mark! [14:22] speak up a bit? [14:22] * slangasek applauds [14:22] Woo! [14:22] sabdfl!!!! [14:22] sound is good [14:22] yep, clear here. [14:22] better ty [14:22] Perfect! [14:22] better [14:22] this is good [14:22] sounds okay to me [14:23] looks like a nice home. [14:23] sounds just a tad quiet [14:23] better! [14:23] jono: click on yourself if you want us to see the slides [14:23] I also read lips. [14:24] jono: unclick yourself when you want us to see mark === Bruda is now known as Brudha [14:26] I wouldn't mind seeing Mark while he talks through the first intro slide :) === rube is now known as rlongf [14:28] hi all [14:28] Thank you [14:29] meh [14:29] he is not talking anything important [14:29] i don´t watch this video at first time, can i watch it later on an replay by youtube ? [14:29] yes [14:29] scorp62: yes [14:29] nice [14:29] trust is earned in most cases. [14:29] (Y) [14:29] scorp62: yes, it will be available at the same URL [14:29] khajvah, I think that's important, yes [14:30] I heard these things many times [14:30] ... [14:31] Also TV operating System [14:31] the core can work with multiple interfaces. It seems the interfaces make most of the difference between devices. [14:32] i am downloading boot repair disk [14:32] yeah [14:32] KDE is doing the same thing [14:32] i install ubuntu like this [14:32] the core can be easily ported if it is not 100% working [14:33] uefi swap / /home [14:33] i see an important role of money now [14:33] :) [14:34] is ubuntu sdk fully working? [14:34] i am thinking of developing for ubuntu phone [14:34] is [14:34] os [14:34] it's working, but it's not complete [14:34] Focus on the product not the audience. People adapt if the product is powerful enough. If you let them dictate the direction, you may end up too many traditional features, it hinders innovation. [14:34] hello [14:34] why Canonical is not "connected" with the Fairphone project ? it seems to be a great project and close to Ubuntu philosophy... Am I wrong...? :) === mote is now known as Guest11131 [14:35] core app developers rock! \o/ [14:35] +1000 [14:35] os install in samsung phone help me [14:35] sharif: you can get help with getting Ubuntu Touch on devices in #ubuntu-touch [14:35] this is so fascinating [14:35] making a phone+tablet+pc OS, needs a new way to create applications that works on phone+tablet+pc environment, and that can have the same core, but a different UI depending on the phone|tablet|pc use. A UI that can be attached and detached depending on the context [14:35] /l [14:35] rollie: first I've ever heard of Fairphone. Interesting idea, though they seem to have already shipped their product, a little late for Canonical to get on board? [14:35] Oops. [14:36] ubuntu touch is not usable for now [14:36] boulabiar: the Ubuntu SDK provides exactly that [14:36] That sounds great. Reducing resource usage. [14:36] khajvah: Ubuntu Touch has been on my only mobile phone for a month now [14:36] qmlish [14:36] Fairphone isn't in US yet which sucks [14:36] it's usable [14:36] really? [14:36] i heard from [14:36] yes [14:36] ubuntu guys [14:36] they say it is not usable for everyday use [14:37] it's not stable enough for average end-users to use it [14:37] Mark, check out Manjaro/Arch, at least for inspiration on how to make the core system more lightweight. [14:37] everyday use is relative [14:37] but if you're a technie who likes new things, it's fine [14:37] they are still in production AND in evolution ! and perhaps Canonical could give them a more international place :) [14:37] It's stable for everyday use, but it isn't ready for end users [14:37] still speaking about Fairphone :) [14:38] mhall119: can you take a small look here http://goo.gl/soZUJk (Scenario 3) [14:38] will it be possible to work in a ubuntu touch device? Or will it make the same mistakes like Windows RT? [14:38] khajvah, I usually check this guy's youtube channel - he installs it once a month and tests it - here's his latest test: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stx0frMuw84 [14:38] thanks [14:39] boulabiar: I'll read it later, in the mean time you should look at http://developer.ubuntu.com/api/ubuntu-12.10/qml/mobile/ubuntu-layouts.html [14:39] but compatibility is in question? [14:39] any where I could get the audio stream? [14:39] Where is that slide in a readable format? [14:39] I hope they will get hardwar compnies to work with ubuntu [14:39] mojo706: it's a youtube broadcast [14:40] I can't stream [14:40]