[06:56] <MooDoo> morning all
[07:24] <dwatkins> greetings
[07:25] <MartijnVdS> hello
[07:29] <MooDoo> :D
[07:41] <DJones> Not wanting to wish the days away, but roll on tomorrow, new tablet time
[07:45] <twager> Anyone tell me if a 3g phone will automatically connect to 2g if it cannot find a 3g signal ?
[07:47] <DJones> As far as I know it should do, should pick the best connection, dropping down until as a last resort it starts chucking carrier pidgeons out as though the phone was a magicians top hat
[07:50] <DJones> Although if its a Blackberry, it probably starts with the pidgeon and drops down to postal service
[07:51] <twager> DJones,  Thanks  will give it a whirl...It is an Orange Sanfran dut I have put cyanogenmod on it.
[08:03] <AlanBell> morning all
[08:04] <ikonia> good morning AlanBell
[08:04] <MooDoo> morning
[08:18] <bigcalm> Good morning peeps :)
[08:26] <mungbean> did anyone watch dragons den?
[08:27] <mungbean> the fella trying to flog a copy of the yubikey
[08:27] <SuperMatt> do what now?
[08:28] <mungbean> what i said
[08:28] <dwatkins> mungbean: this? http://www.yubico.com/products/yubikey-hardware/
[08:28] <mungbean> the fella was trying to sell his product which was a copy
[08:28] <SuperMatt> how much of a copy?
[08:44] <dwatkins> oh dear, this program is painful to watch
[08:45] <mungbean> he came for a job interview last week :P
[08:46] <dwatkins> oh, sorry, I havn't got that far yet, I'm still watching the rather unfortunate fashion magazine presentation
[08:48] <mungbean> think it was after, interspersed witha toilet flush thing
[09:04] <popey> http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/aladdin-key-to-remember-open-source-hardware
[09:04] <popey> thats the thing that was on dragons den
[09:07] <dwatkins> interesting idea, but it does sound like a derivation of the yubikey
[09:07] <AlanBell> no, it isn't
[09:07] <AlanBell> no cryptography involved, not a one time keypad
[09:07] <dwatkins> oh ok, how so?
[09:09] <AlanBell> that thing is just a keyboard sequence
[09:11] <popey> mungbean: http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/aladdin-key-to-remember-open-source-hardware
[09:21] <DJones> With the UBuntu images for Nexus 7's, do they allow you to dual boot ubuntu & android or does Ubuntu fully replace Android
[09:22] <popey> we dont support dual boot
[09:22] <popey> but it is possible
[09:22] <popey> http://barrenfrozenwasteland.com/2013/03/dual-booting-android-and-ubuntu-touch-on-the-nexus-7/
[09:22] <popey> from marxjohnson
[09:23] <DJones> Thanks
[09:50]  * bigcalm is glad to be part of stuff in testing once more
[09:50] <bigcalm> Though it's frustrating when functionality that you want isn't ready yet :)
[09:52] <popey> heh
[09:53] <bigcalm> Getting used to how QML works is difficult for me
[09:53] <bigcalm> Seems that file names play a big role in things working correctly
[10:05] <Laney> wonder how long my money is going to take to come back through the tubes from paypal
[10:25] <popey> mine already arrived
[10:27] <daftykins> naturally they saw Laney's and said - hey this is a patient guy, we'll just hold onto this...
[10:28] <Laney> maybe they reinvested it on the 1330 at huntingdon for me
[10:28] <daftykins> :D
[10:28] <daftykins> a hors with your name on
[10:28] <daftykins> horse
[10:46] <brobostigon> good morning everyone.
[10:48] <daftykins> hey brobostigon
[10:48] <brobostigon> hey daftykins
[11:18] <penguin42> is it just me...the Register causing Firefox hangs?
[11:18] <penguin42> plugin-container at 117%
[11:23] <gordonjcp> adblock
[11:25] <SuperMatt> I've removed add-block now
[11:26] <SuperMatt> instead, I just have a ninja profile with adblock installed
[11:26] <SuperMatt> I don't know why I spelt adblock so funny the first time around
[11:27] <daftykins> :D
[11:29] <gordonjcp> and, no, plugin-container isn't even running for me
[11:49] <Guest77088> popey: yes, one of those guys
[11:49] <mungbean> from the indiegogo page
[12:03] <bigcalm> andatche: please sort out your connection :)
[12:03] <mgdm> bigcalm: /ignore andatche joins parts quits
[12:04] <bigcalm> mgdm: I could...
[12:04] <andatche> znc issue, sorry
[12:04]  * andatche fixed now
[12:04] <Myrtti> I was getting worried ;-)
[12:06] <daftykins> worried we might have to put him down?
[12:23] <mungbean_> oh great. some numpty has signed up with insurance companies with my email address.
[12:23] <mungbean_> cue a zillion quotes
[12:23] <daftykins> ;/
[12:24] <Laney> might be a good samaritan trying to save you some cash
[12:24] <penguin42> mungbean_: "To be, or not to be...."
[12:24] <mungbean_> my names not sarah though
[12:24] <daftykins> i keep discovering people with my surname across the US because for some reason they keep signing up my "<firstinitial><surname>@gmail.com" to things ;/
[12:25] <mgdm> I have the same problem, due to gmail's bizarre handling of . in the local part
[12:25] <mgdm> but then, I don't use gmail as my primary email, so it's not actually that much of an issue
[12:25] <penguin42> daftykins: There are another couple of people with the same name as me at work (big company) - most people forget to use the middle initial to distinguish us
[12:25] <daftykins> haha, ouch
[12:26] <daftykins> firstname.x.surname@ ?
[12:26] <daftykins> seems a bit of a bad choice of policy
[12:26] <penguin42> daftykins: we've each got multiple email addresses, and actually it's mostly people using the address book to look up by name
[12:26] <daftykins> reminds me of those pesky married people changing theirs when working in IT :D
[12:26] <mgdm> well it's either that or firstname.surname2@whatever.com...
[12:26] <mungbean_> i have first initial sruname @ gmail
[12:26] <mungbean_> bad move
[12:27] <mungbean_> theres a lot of fbloggs out there
[12:27] <daftykins> :D
[12:27] <daftykins> mungbean_: ones in america started to try and ask me for my family tree up to the 'Mayflower' ;/
[12:28] <mungbean_> i get invited to a lot of job interviews, and family gaterhings
[12:29] <bigcalm> Good to be popular
[12:33] <mungbean_> if my name was shanice
[12:33] <mgdm> Not just at weekends, you mean?
[12:33] <daftykins> i got asked if i'd tutor someones kid once
[12:33] <daftykins> i had to decline, as the commute to California would be killer
[12:34] <jussi>  oh dear... I just received a package from france...
[12:34] <daftykins> D:
[12:34] <bigcalm> This is a bad thing?
[12:34] <MartijnVdS> jussi: Surrender gifts?
[12:35] <jussi> I was getting excited thinking it was something fun... and it was windows/driver cd's from HP....
[12:35]  * jussi sighs...
[12:35] <bigcalm> Haha
[12:35] <daftykins> erk
[12:35] <bigcalm> Sorry, but that's a little funny :)
[12:35] <jussi> it c ame by courier, to the door!
[12:35] <daftykins> :D
[12:35] <daftykins> perhaps only HP France has a CD writer
[12:36] <jussi> hahaa
[12:36] <daftykins> ok i'm gonna head off, bbl \o
[12:36] <jussi> laters
[12:44] <popey> I got a parcel today
[12:45] <popey> https://plus.google.com/u/0/109365858706205035322/posts/PxNMQntYo8a
[12:48] <MartijnVdS> popey: Is it as much fun as the box suggests?
[12:50] <popey> dunno yet ☻
[12:50] <popey> the first one was fun
[12:57] <SuperMatt> I can't even begin to figure out how that game works
[12:58] <MartijnVdS> if only they'd playtested it a little
[12:58] <SuperMatt> that surely would have been a good idea
[12:59] <popey> its good fun
[12:59] <mungbean_> http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/374397522/apngasm-foss-animated-png-tools-and-apng-standardi?ref=category
[13:00] <mungbean_> check the $5k pledge
[13:01] <mgdm> o_O
[13:02] <mgdm> Twitter deploy their code in a cooler way than I get to :( https://vine.co/v/heaOxhb3w5p
[13:02] <mungbean_> arduino fans: http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/2021474419/flutter-20-wireless-arduino-with-half-mile-1km-ran?ref=category
[13:38] <dutchie> hi all - anybody know if there is still a way to import .ovpn configuration into network manager?
[13:39] <SuperMatt> I've no idea, though I can't see any reason why not
[13:39] <SuperMatt> you may have to install the openvpn packages though
[13:40] <SuperMatt> sudo apt-get install network-manager-open
[13:41] <SuperMatt> uhm, there's supposed to be vpn on the end of that
[13:42] <SuperMatt> who knows how I forgot it?
[13:42] <dutchie> ah, i found it
[13:43] <SuperMatt> awesome
[13:43] <dutchie> i was just grabbing "OpenVPN" from the add menu
[13:43] <dutchie> and not seeing the "Import a saved configuration" option at the very bottom
[13:43] <SuperMatt> doh
[13:43] <SuperMatt> well done
[14:13] <mungbean_> linked in search is broken :(
[14:13] <MartijnVdS> mungbean_: linkedin is broken.
[14:22] <bashrc> linkedin is best avoided
[14:33] <mungbean_> :-|
[14:33] <daftykins> all social notworking, in fairness is :)
[14:33] <bashrc> _o_
[14:34] <mungbean_> not if doing some stalking
[14:35] <daftykins> hah
[14:36] <mungbean_> is there an equivalent of unity --reset for windows?
[14:36] <ali1234> yeah, open task manager and kill explorer.exe
[14:37] <mungbean_> thnking more along lines of restore to defaults
[14:37] <mungbean_> something weird about this install
[14:37] <daftykins> what are you wanting to reset 0o
[14:37] <ali1234> ah. boot the recovery disk and copy the backup registry hive over the main one
[14:37] <ali1234> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/307545
[14:37] <mungbean_> all fonts are nastified, and opening word, usually would have a blue background outside thepage boundaries, but it is brilliant white
[14:38] <mungbean_> fonts are as if the cleartype settings have been deliverately chosen for masximum difficulty in reading
[14:40] <mungbean_> the wizard doesn't fix it
[14:40] <mungbean_> and there's no way of restoring to defaults
[14:41] <daftykins> is that a bare metal install? 0o
[14:41] <mungbean_> yesh
[14:41] <mungbean_> dual boot
[14:42] <mungbean_> think it all started after plugging a second monitor to the laptop
[14:43] <daftykins> hrmm
[14:47] <SuperMatt> has anyone here looked through the new wallpapers?
[14:50] <bashrc> No
[14:50] <SuperMatt> oh
[14:50] <bashrc> Are they shocking?
[14:50] <SuperMatt> well, I've just looked through them, and many of them seem to be of quite a low quality
[14:51] <ali1234> link?
[14:52] <mungbean_> http://i.imgur.com/SGKisCO.png
[14:52] <SuperMatt> well I just did an apt-get update
[14:53] <SuperMatt> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/08/ubuntu-13-10-winning-wallpapers-revealed
[14:53] <mungbean_> screnshot of desktop viewed on another monitor shows there is a blue title bar and thing on the left
[14:53] <mungbean_> and search progs is readable
[14:53] <SuperMatt> so look at the 4th one (it's the white shilohette of the salamander)
[14:53] <daftykins> seems pretty conventional mungbean_
[14:53] <mungbean_> yes but on the laptop the blue bits arent showing
[14:54] <daftykins> mungbean_: right click desktop -> personalise -> picking a theme might force a reload?
[14:54] <mungbean_> hmm maybe gamma controls
[14:54] <SuperMatt> the jpg is 2560x1600, but it's just an upscaled version of something much smaller
[14:55] <daftykins> some of those look quite nice
[14:56] <mungbean_> HEY ITS FIXED
[14:56] <mungbean_> the contrast had been changed (possibly by me) from 50 to 55 on the intel graphics options
[14:56] <SuperMatt> the leaf with water droplets is completely out of focus
[14:56] <mungbean_> completely ruins everything
[14:58] <mungbean_> SuperMatt: looks liek they are going for single colour themes
[14:58] <daftykins> mungbean_: how weird
[14:58] <bashrc> I wouldn't exactly characterise those wallpapers as being low quality
[14:58] <mungbean_> "colour enhancement" my butt
[14:59] <SuperMatt> many of them just aren't right
[14:59] <daftykins> so painful looking at those comments
[14:59] <mungbean_> are the comments about unity?
[14:59] <daftykins> nah the wallpaper talk
[14:59] <SuperMatt> they've been submitted at 2560x1600, but when you look at them at native res, not zoomed in or out, many of them are heavily pixelated
[15:00] <SuperMatt> so they've just been upscaled
[15:00] <daftykins> you see they say they've not put the originals up on that page, yeah?
[15:00] <SuperMatt> yeah, but the package has landed in saucy
[15:00] <SuperMatt> I'm looking at them right now
[15:00] <daftykins> oh right
[15:01] <mungbean_> whats the default? still the techicolour chunder?
[15:03] <ali1234> i don't think a new default has been released
[15:03] <SuperMatt> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-wallpapers/+bug/1216223 aha, it seems that something has gone wrong between the original submissions and being packaged
[15:04] <SuperMatt> you're right, the default hasn't been released yet
[15:07] <mungbean_> how long are flapjacks edible for?
[15:07] <mungbean_> no mould visible yet
[15:08] <mungbean_> also...if i upgrade to raring kernel in precise, do i need to upgrade to the xserver-xorg-raring too?
[15:08] <daftykins> when i make them you need power tools to get them apart :> (flapjack)
[15:09] <daftykins> always best eaten from the oven :D
[15:09] <mungbean_> 10 days old
[15:09] <mungbean_> atm
[15:10] <daftykins> what's the worst that could happen ^_^
[15:10] <mungbean_> i die
[15:10] <mungbean_> everybody dies
[15:11] <mungbean_> the universe implodes
[15:11] <daftykins> sucks when people don't spot a rhetorical question :(
[15:11] <mungbean_> glad you stopped me when you did
[15:11] <mungbean_> i just ate one anyway
[15:12] <mungbean_> i can feel the fartrs coming already
[15:12] <mungbean_> 5 farts per flapjack
[15:12] <daftykins> too much info
[15:14] <bigcalm> Have to say, this phone is satisfying my lust for applying updates
[15:14] <mungbean_> i turned that off
[15:15] <bigcalm> You turned off farts?
[15:15] <mungbean_> i wish
[15:15] <mungbean_> or at least my wife wishes
[15:23] <mungbean_> so regarding the other question...anyone done the install of xserver-xorg-lts-raring?
[15:28] <mungbean_> this is why everything is quiet? http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1308/meeting/21887/intro-and-keynote/
[15:32] <popey> mungbean_: yeah, uds day
[17:04] <penguin42> so lets see, everything on there is in UTC, and we're UTC +1 hmm
[17:06] <penguin42> bah missed the virtualisation one
[17:07] <daftykins> :(
[17:07] <daftykins> things are often better recorded over live :D
[17:08] <penguin42> yeh at least they're up on Youtube
[17:08] <daftykins> heh that dev summit link keeps changing video source
[17:08] <daftykins> someones dancing on the inputs
[17:35] <penguin42> oh dear - the youtube suggestions after watching 'virtualization stack work for saucy' are erm saucy
[17:35] <daftykins> >_<
[17:35] <daftykins> i did think the name was a bit... dangerous
[17:35] <penguin42> well, two lots of Miley Cirus and oddly the Lock Ness Monster
[17:36] <daftykins> hahaha
[17:36] <daftykins> saucy Nessy
[17:36] <daftykins> i checked a 1.5TB drive i pulled from a clients array
[17:37] <daftykins> sure enough - 1,300 odd sectors pending reallocation
[17:37] <daftykins> i seem to be finding record breaking HDD deaths recently :D
[17:38] <ali1234> after the keynote session all the suggested videos were some american popstar "twerking"
[17:38] <penguin42> yeh I think that's the same one
[17:47] <shauno> I'm impressed you found them at all.  still looking :/
[17:48] <shauno> the link from http://uds.ubuntu.com/agenda/ appears to be to something completely unrelated
[17:48] <penguin42> shauno: Yeh they didn't make it easy
[17:48] <penguin42> http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1308/2013-08-27/
[17:49] <shauno> ah, I'd apparently found an entirely different subsite.  nice start.  thanks
[17:49] <Laney> tracks -> tuesday from that page
[17:52] <AlanBell> ali1234: yeah, I learned about twerking from the Ubuntu Developer Summit too
[17:54] <daftykins> kinda fond of the lack of updates on this BigV debian 6 VPS
[17:56] <penguin42> daftykins: Yeh my mail server is still on the non-BigV bytemark stuff
[17:56]  * popey points AlanBell at http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1308/meeting/21947/client-1308-touch-1404-a11y/
[17:57] <daftykins> penguin42: ah yeah - i helped my friends with those. are you planning to migrate eventually?
[17:57] <penguin42> daftykins: Yeh I should sometime - I think BigV is cheaper
[17:57] <daftykins> penguin42: they did have some node issues a while back, once all the instances were frozen and had to be rebooted manually
[17:58] <daftykins> their CLI tool is great though, just a quick "vm restart <name>" and it was done :>
[17:58] <daftykins> i'm using the BigV VPS with their 'symbiosis' setup, which allows administration pretty much solely via config file creation over SFTP/SCP
[17:58] <penguin42> daftykins: Especially after they rememberd to close the VNC console bug?
[17:59] <daftykins> oh? not familiar with that
[17:59] <penguin42> daftykins: Ah I can't remember the details; but I think there was a 'reboot' button on the interface and that didn't need any auth
[18:00] <daftykins> ooh-err
[18:06] <penguin42> daftykins: https://forum.bytemark.co.uk/comments.php?DiscussionID=4076&page=1#Item_0
[18:07] <daftykins> penguin42: thanks, having a read
[18:24] <daftykins> penguin42: not even sure of my management IP XD
[18:26] <daftykins> penguin42: come to think of it i think i didn't create mine until 2013 so i'm set :)
[18:26] <daftykins> early adopters got burnt
[20:01] <Monotoko2> Damnit, there's a proxy service that you put in your browser, then it sends all requests to blocked sites through them
[20:01] <Monotoko2> then you don't have to go hunting for proxies manually every time
[20:01] <Monotoko2> but I can't remember the name of it
[20:02] <penguin42> Monotoko2: You want a proxy site for hard to remember proxy sites
[20:02] <Monotoko2> penguin42: it gives you a file that you put in your browser
[20:02] <Monotoko2> then when you go to a blocked site, it uses there's instead
[20:02] <Monotoko2> otherwise it uses your connection
[20:03] <Monotoko2> it begins with I if I recall right
[20:07] <mungbean_> i'm sure there's other chans for that kind of request
[20:07] <mungbean_> :P
[20:08] <Monotoko2> mungbean_: not remembering it is driving me absolutely nuts
[20:09] <mungbean_> whats the name of the process that runs the panel in the top right of the screen?
[20:11]  * Monotoko2 headdesks
[20:11] <Monotoko2> I swear hidemyass isn't supposed to be blocked
[20:12] <Monotoko2> unless Virgin have taken to blocking generic proxies
[20:19] <diddledan> Monotoko2, it's got the word "ass" so it's blocked by pr0nfilter like essex uni
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[20:22] <shauno> reminds me of an article I read recently; a site kept failing to display properly.  turned out it was because one of the devs had a potty mouth, and some of his more colourful comments in the .css caused the file to get blocked by various things
[20:22] <MartijnVdS> bwaha :)
[20:23] <MartijnVdS> shauno: what about the news site with the article about the "gas explosion" (one word in Dutch: gasexplosie)
[20:24] <MartijnVdS> shauno: Or the one mentioning magic powers ("toverkracht", "verkracht" means "raped")
[20:25] <shauno> I'm watching a TV show with dutch subtitles.  I'm more and more inclined to believe it's not a real language
[20:25] <mungbean_> i wonder if it will ever become 2nd language in netherlands..
[20:25] <MartijnVdS> shauno: I get a similar feeling when I channel-surf past BBC Alba
[20:26] <MartijnVdS> shauno: "This must be a joke channel.. right? People don't talk like that?"
[20:26] <mungbean_> what's alba?
[20:26] <MartijnVdS> mungbean_: http://www.bbc.co.uk/alba/
[20:26] <MartijnVdS> I guess it's Scotland
[20:26] <MartijnVdS> but it looks Irishish?
[20:27] <shauno> they're related
[20:27] <MartijnVdS> hence the extra "ish" :)
[20:28] <shauno> brythonic is the word you're looking for ;)
[20:29] <mungbean_> my son says dominoeses ...reminds me of gollum
[20:29] <shauno> hm, or not.  that's what I get for trying to look clever
[20:29] <MartijnVdS> mungbean_: preciousss :)
[20:44] <shauno> seriously, overwinning?  that's a word?
[21:08] <diddledan> shauno, sounds like something that matrin sheen would say
[21:10] <diddledan> no, I don't mean martin
[21:10] <diddledan> his son
[21:10] <shauno> I really need to turn these silly subtitles off.  I'm spending more time watching all these crazy words, than actually watching the show
[21:11] <diddledan> charlie sheen
[21:11] <diddledan> I had to google his name
[21:12] <diddledan> shows how out of touch I am :-p
[21:15] <diddledan> oh joy of joys: quote: "SOPA is back. Well, one of the harshest and most ridiculous parts of it, anyway. The Obama Administration wants to make unauthorized streaming a felony -- with years of jail time.
[21:15] <diddledan> If this passes, sharing a video of yourself singing karaoke could land you in prison. Singing “Happy Birthday” with your family and videotaping it would be a felony. Click here to say NO to SOPA censorship."
[21:16] <diddledan> obviously I didn't mean to copy+paste the click here bit
[21:16] <diddledan> and no, you can't click there
[21:16] <diddledan> :-p
[22:34] <Monotoko2> Hi,
[22:34] <Monotoko2> I'm the sysadmin at ZyNet, I was informed at 22:45 that our main server
[22:34] <Monotoko2> (Neville) has gone down. I can't connect via SSH or HTTP so went to your
[22:34] <Monotoko2> control panel to do some troubleshooting. However
[22:34] <Monotoko2> https://cp.flexiscale.comis down and I am unable to connect from this
[22:34] <Monotoko2> PC or any other PC.
[22:34] <Monotoko2> I then tried to use your API to at least see if I could reboot our affected
[22:34] <Monotoko2> server, however I'm unable to connect to that either.
[22:34] <Monotoko2> I'm sorry to email you out of hours but that is our main server and we need
[22:34] <Monotoko2> it up ASAP.
[22:34] <Monotoko2> Regards,
[22:34] <Monotoko2> ...........
[22:34] <Monotoko2> I apologise, please ignore that
[22:34] <penguin42> oh sure...
[22:34]  * penguin42 takes away Monotoko2's paste button
[22:35] <Monotoko2> penguin42: I have irssi in a putty window
[22:35] <Monotoko2> right click is paste -.-
[22:35] <Monotoko2> i right clicked thinking I could open another tab because that's what I usually do under Linux
[22:46] <ali1234> this is why i use a gui irc client
[22:46] <ali1234> even if i paste accidentally i still have to press return before it sends it
[22:52] <Monotoko2> ali1234: true, but I can pull this screen up from any machine which is why I use it.