[05:25] <barrydk> Good morning everyone
[05:40] <Kilos> greetings peeps
[05:58] <Kilos> yo Superhuman 
[06:26] <superfly> morning
[06:27] <Kilos> morning superfly 
[06:28] <Kilos> i hope 8.30 suits you better for meets
[06:37] <Kilos> hi psychicist 
[06:51] <theblazehen> hi all
[07:09] <Vince-0> Haai!
[07:09] <theblazehen> hi Vince-0 
[07:09] <Vince-0> 37 total yoh
[07:09] <Vince-0> surp
[07:09] <theblazehen> yeah
[07:09] <Kilos> hi theblazehen Vince-0 
[07:09] <theblazehen> hi Kilos 
[07:10] <Kilos> Vince-0, your mailing list is a data hog
[07:10] <Vince-0> it is? 
[07:11] <Kilos> dont you peeps send/receive mails the normal way?
[07:11] <Vince-0> I don't notice - also don't use the groups page
[07:11] <Vince-0> Email summary/digest to my Inbox and I reply there
[07:11] <Kilos> just login in and looking at first pages maile uses 3 meg
[07:12] <inetpro> good morning
[07:12] <Kilos> morning inetpro 
[07:13] <Vince-0> Kilos, you should have digest/summary on to get it to your inbox rather than visiting the groups page
[07:13] <Kilos> do i do that online there?
[07:15] <Kilos> i use thunderbird with pop so i see all my mails here in my inbox
[07:15] <Kilos> all list mails that is
[07:16] <Kilos> hehe theblazehen have you started reading the LPI manual yet?
[07:16] <Kilos> massive book
[07:16] <Vince-0> yep, those two exams are not small
[07:16] <Vince-0> took me about 2 months part time to summarize notes on just the first exam
[07:17] <Kilos> will take the rest of my life i think
[07:18] <theblazehen> not yet Kilos 
[07:18] <Kilos> im only by irq's now
[07:18] <Kilos> but they auto im sure
[07:19] <Vince-0> Kilos, I see domdoner and kilosblunt
[07:19] <Kilos> ya they both me
[07:19] <theblazehen> trying out i3
[07:20] <Kilos> domdonner was last year and blunt was when i tried to get there last week or so
[07:20] <Kilos> i3?
[07:21] <Kilos> dual core pc
[07:21] <theblazehen> Kilos, nah, the window manager
[07:21] <Vince-0> Kilos, so you've got no Email option set for either of those accounts. Would you like me to remove one and update for Email to abriged/digest/all emails ?
[07:21] <Kilos> ah
[07:21] <theblazehen> i3wm.org
[07:21] <theblazehen> uses vi keys
[07:21] <Kilos> yes please to domdonner
[07:24] <Vince-0> ok do you want all mails or the digest?
[07:24] <Kilos> i dunno whats the diffs
[07:25] <Kilos> all mails from now on i think
[07:25] <Vince-0> digest is once a day, all mails are immediate
[07:25] <Kilos> ya immediate
[07:26] <Vince-0> done! domdonner lol
[07:26] <Kilos> hehe ty very much
[07:26] <Kilos> now i can turn off the blunt one here
[07:28] <Kilos> im with pcs like you would most likely be if someone gave you a stripped automatic gearbox and said sort it
[07:31] <Vince-0> automatic yar
[07:31] <Kilos> now you can mail your list an advertise the "coming soon " LPI classes on #linux-studies
[07:31] <Vince-0> who uses those
[07:31] <Kilos> peeps that are too lazy to change gears
[07:31] <Vince-0> grannies
[07:31] <Kilos> and some women find it easier
[07:32] <Kilos> hehe i think the pros car is auto
[07:32] <Kilos> rofl
[07:32] <Kilos> grandpas
[07:32] <Vince-0> theblazehen, here is the book I'm using 'cos it's up to date for the recent revision for LPI1 http://www.amazon.com/CompTIA-Linux-Study-Guide-LX0-101/dp/1118531744
[07:32] <theblazehen> ty Vince-0 
[07:33] <Kilos> isnt amazon stuff to buy?
[07:33] <Vince-0> Its a good place to start but it won't include absolutely everything in the exam. The layout doesn't exactly follow the LPI objectives in order 
[07:33] <Vince-0> yep
[07:34] <Vince-0> you could start with the exam objectives on the lpi.org site and work from there using as much material you can find
[07:34] <theblazehen> ty Vince-0 
[07:34] <Kilos> isnt the book the monkey gave us up to date
[07:34] <Kilos> it wgets lekker and free
[07:36] <Vince-0> ya but it is a bit old for the newest revision, let me check the dates
[07:36] <Kilos> all the foss and floss then you go buy a book
[07:36] <Vince-0> ya to win the exam easier
[07:36] <Kilos> hehe
[07:38] <Vince-0> it is a hell of a task creating your own notes to match the objectives
[07:38] <Kilos> yeah
[07:39] <Kilos> but best way to remember stuff
[07:39] <Kilos> writing down that is. not here on pc
[07:39] <Vince-0> here's the addendum notes on the lpi wiki: http://wiki.lpi.org/wiki/LPIC-1
[07:40] <Kilos> can i wget them or must i first go page to page
[07:40] <Vince-0> looks like the latest revision published April 2009
[07:41] <Vince-0> that's a wiki page, dunno if a wget will give you a usable page
[07:41] <Kilos> ah
[07:44] <Vince-0> I tried some of the practice exams linked on the lpi.org site - they're not that easy
[07:45] <Vince-0> some tricky multiple choice and "type the command" questions
[07:49] <nocware> morning!!
[07:49] <Kilos> yo nocware 
[07:50] <Kilos> ai!
[07:50] <nocware> Been a while.
[07:50] <Kilos> yeah where you been
[07:51] <nocware> Jst had sme biz that kept me off.
[07:52] <Kilos> and fingers got tired
[07:52] <Kilos> all the shorthand
[07:53] <nocware> A bit. 
[07:53] <Kilos> hehe
[07:56] <nocware> btw anyone know how to solve some error i keep getting about hd0 out of disk and then grub rescue loading??
[07:57] <nocware> already tried re-installing grub.
[07:57] <nocware> Didnt work
[07:57] <Kilos> grub-pc
[07:57] <Kilos> you using 13.04
[07:57] <nocware> 12.04
[07:58] <Kilos> ah thats easy then
[07:58] <nocware> ReallY?
[07:58] <nocware> hw
[07:58] <Kilos> Maaz, google boot-repair for 12.04
[07:58] <Maaz> Kilos: "How to Repair GRUB2 When Ubuntu Won't Boot" http://www.howtogeek.com/114884/how-to-repair-grub2-when-ubuntu-wont-boot/ :: "Boot-Repair - Community Ubuntu Documentation" https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair :: "Restore/Reinstall/Repair Grub on Ubuntu 13.04 / 12.10 / 12.04 from ..." http://www.howopensource.com/2012/05/reinstall-recover-grub-from-
[07:58] <Maaz> ubuntu-12-04-live-cd-usb/ :: "installation - Cannot install Ubuntu 12.04 After Windows Insta…
[07:58] <Kilos> use the top link
[07:59] <Kilos> boot-repair fixes those probs if its not your drive crashing
[08:01] <nocware> hvent tried boot repair.But i did use the terminal method n i still get those errors.
[08:01] <Kilos> boot-repair is a great tool
[08:01] <Kilos> fixes anything fixable
[08:02] <Kilos> and if its probs in the boot sector the are other ugly tricks to keep drive going
[08:03] <Kilos> you using 12.04 only or with win as well nocware ?
[08:03] <nocware> Only Ubuntu 12.04
[08:03] <nocware> no win
[08:04] <Kilos> then go with boot repair
[08:04] <Kilos> it even fixes dual boots
[08:05] <Kilos> and can be run from a live cd as well
[08:06] <nocware> My laptop boots, jst after rebooting a couple of times..
[08:06] <Kilos> if you cant get past the grub prompt and use ctrl+alt+F@
[08:06] <Kilos> boot-repair will fix it im sure
[08:06] <Kilos> also what email client are you using?
[08:07] <nocware> l'll try it.
[08:07] <Kilos> its not big
[08:07] <nocware> i dont use any e-mail clients...
[08:08] <Kilos> if you add the repo as that link explains then run it probs are gone
[08:08] <Kilos> ok. i had evo probs
[08:18] <Kilos> hi barrydk 
[08:38] <barrydk> Hi Kilos  I greeted early this morning already
[08:39] <Kilos> oh sorry, head full of learning
[08:39] <Kilos> no place for memory
[08:40] <barrydk> Thats good no problem, just dont want you guys to think im not greeting. 
[08:40] <Kilos> hahaha
[08:43] <Vince-0> its IRC, can't take offense over manners in text communications
[08:43] <Kilos> hehe
[08:44] <Kilos> i thought they had dropped lilo
[08:44] <Vince-0> from LPI? 
[08:44] <Kilos> yeah
[08:44] <Vince-0> I think there aren't specific config questions about it but just that you know it exists and its limitations
[08:45] <Kilos> sure i read something about that last year
[09:18] <Kilos> hmm...
[12:46] <barrydk> Time to go enjoy the evening everyone
[13:14] <Kilos> hi Cantide 
[13:15] <Cantide> hello '<
[13:36] <Cantide> i ran into some bad luck :/
[13:36] <Cantide> while on my mission to conquer Korea today, i managed to seize the car's engine T-T
[13:36] <Cantide> so much for going to RMS next week :/
[13:55] <Kilos> ouch
[13:59] <Cantide> yeah T-T
[13:59] <Cantide> the good news is that i received my contract, had it printed, signed it, and sent it with all my other documents via DHL to Korea
[13:59] <Cantide> so by the end of the week, my VISA should be on its way :)
[14:00] <Cantide> "Join us in 10mins at 2pm UTC for the opening Ubuntu Developer Summit session, including a keynote from Mark Shuttleworth - watch the video stream live at http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1308/meeting/21887/intro-and-keynote/"
[14:05] <Squirm> #ubuntu-uds-plenary
[14:06] <Cantide> yeah
[14:06] <Cantide> i am there :)
[15:01] <theblazehen> hi guys, maaz coffee on
[15:01] <theblazehen> Maaz coffee on
[15:01]  * Maaz puts the kettle on
[15:02] <theblazehen> Maaz http error 418
[15:02] <Maaz> theblazehen: Excuse me?
[15:02] <theblazehen> Maaz google http error 418
[15:02] <Maaz> theblazehen: "List of HTTP status codes - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_HTTP_status_codes :: "Hyper Text Coffee Pot Control Protocol - Wikipedia, the free ..." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyper_Text_Coffee_Pot_Control_Protocol :: "What is the story behind HTTP status code 418 - "I'm a Teapot ..." http://www.quora.com/What-
[15:02] <Maaz> is-the-story-behind-HTTP-status-code-418-Im-a-Teapot :: "Stack Overflow returning HTTP err…
[15:05] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for theblazehen!
[15:06] <theblazehen> t yMaaz
[15:06] <theblazehen> ty Maaz
[15:11] <theblazehen> hello theblazesbot
[15:16] <theblazehen> wb theblazesbot
[15:28] <theblazehen> hi nocware 
[15:28] <kbmonkey> hello
[15:28] <nocware> yeh theblazehen#
[15:29] <nocware> kbmonkey
[15:35] <Kilos> yo kbmonkey 
[15:36] <Kilos> Maaz, seen magespawn 
[15:36] <Maaz> Kilos: magespawn was last seen 18 hours, 55 minutes and 40 seconds ago in #ubuntu-za on freenode [2013-08-26 22:40:42 SAST], and has been online on freenode since 2013-08-23 14:52:55 SAST
[15:36] <theblazesbot> i've gone
[15:36] <nocware> So, Kilos when  i created a separate partition  for home the problem seems to have disappeared.
[15:37] <Kilos> whew
[15:37] <Kilos> did you make seperate partitions to start with?
[15:37] <theblazesbot> run
[15:37] <nocware> Nope. jst did it 2de... 
[15:38] <Cantide> 2de == today ?
[15:38] <Kilos> i always make at least 3. root boot and home and on large drives i add a storage partition at the end
[15:38] <nocware> Today.
[15:38] <nocware> Yes.
[15:38] <theblazesbot> run
[15:39] <nocware> @Cantide
[15:39] <Kilos> we dont use @ on irc
[15:39] <nocware> Im not so sure abt making one for boot...i'll leave it as is.
[15:40] <Cantide> i don't mine the @thing :)
[15:40] <Cantide> yeah, i think just a separate home partition is enough
[15:40] <Kilos> when you install you make them but you can make just root and home
[15:40] <Cantide> i will do that for my next install i think
[15:41] <Kilos> the advantage of having a home part is that with a reinstall you dont lose all your setting and stuff because you install but dont format /home
[15:47] <kbmonkey> Im back tonight Kilos 
[15:47] <Kilos> i see so
[15:48] <Kilos> im trying to install centos on other pc to use for the class
[15:48] <kbmonkey> hey did we not use @name before in irc days of yore? lol
[15:49] <kbmonkey> nocware, a boot partition is not required. it is used more for server installs or special occasions
[15:49] <Kilos> its twitter peeps that have that habit
[15:50] <kbmonkey> no, @ was used waay before anyof social networks existed man
[15:50] <kbmonkey> in roguelike games, your avatar is the @ symbol. since then it signals a player or user
[15:51] <Cantide> Kilos, that also introduces problems when old, bad settings are kept when you want a fresh install - especially when changing versions
[15:51] <Cantide> or ChanServ >_>
[15:51] <theblazesbot> /msg nickserv
[15:51] <Cantide> ops '-'
[15:51] <theblazesbot> oh okay
[15:52] <Kilos> ya if there are bad setting or some corruption  but it can save lotsa hard work if your /home wasnt corrupt
[15:52] <Cantide> true that
[15:52] <kbmonkey> which CentOS do you have Kilos ? I have 5.6
[15:52] <kbmonkey> I remember that 6 came out...
[15:52] <Kilos> 5
[15:52] <Cantide> i only really reinstall though if my installation is broken or if i'm changing versions, in which case keeping my /home is a bad idea
[15:52] <theblazesbot> someone please link the octothrope thing
[15:52] <Kilos> and old one from nuvo
[15:53] <theblazesbot> run
[15:53] <kbmonkey> ja then we have the same Kilos 
[15:53] <Kilos> but it be stupid
[15:53] <kbmonkey> how so?
[15:53] <Kilos> only got a 6g drive in but it wants to install on hdc
[15:53] <Kilos> then says its too small
[15:54] <Kilos> should be hda if anything
[15:54] <kbmonkey> oh. can one choose features and smallify the install?
[15:54] <kbmonkey> you have two drives in there?
[15:55] <Kilos> yo grant
[15:55] <Kilos> ai!
[15:55] <Kilos> the thing wants to install to eth0
[15:56] <Cantide> that's your network interface
[15:56] <Kilos> nope only the 6g but it must be seing the eth to router
[15:56] <kbmonkey> eh? 
[15:57] <kbmonkey> how about changing it Kilos 
[15:57] <Kilos> and that means it dont even see the 6g with xp on
[15:57] <kbmonkey> I'm booting it in kvm now
[15:58] <kbmonkey> hang on.. need to get this support request for my web host done.. damn thing does not see rsync
[15:58] <Kilos> right im in a kinda parted tool
[15:58] <Kilos> ill sort it kbmonkey you do your stuff ty
[15:58] <kbmonkey> watch me multitask man ;)
[16:01] <Kilos> whats a lvm group
[16:01] <Kilos> whew
[16:01] <Kilos> better to format drive with gparted then start and install
[16:02] <kbmonkey> logical volume management
[16:02] <Kilos> and they aint even got ext4 yet
[16:03] <kbmonkey> it allows you to pool your drives together, so they become one large space
[16:03] <kbmonkey> among other things
[16:03] <kbmonkey> it is how servers can add more disk space without needing reinstallation
[16:05] <Cantide> oh, cool :)
[16:05] <Cantide> that is logical xD
[16:05] <Vince-0> surpdurp
[16:05] <Cantide> hey Vince-0
[16:05] <Vince-0> RMS is in Joburg
[16:05] <Cantide> Vince-0, I may need to cancel my RMS booking T-T
[16:06] <Vince-0> oh that's OK
[16:06] <Vince-0> There will be an update this week
[16:06] <Cantide> my dad's car died today
[16:06] <Cantide> so i don't think i'll be able to get there
[16:06] <Vince-0> ow, I'll pick you up on the day
[16:06] <Cantide> hmm
[16:06] <Cantide> if it's not a problem, that would be cool
[16:07] <Kilos> you seized your dads car
[16:07] <Kilos> whew
[16:07] <Cantide> lol
[16:07] <Cantide> yup :D
[16:07] <Cantide> Cantide -1 T-T
[16:07] <Vince-0> sure, email me closer to the time and we can arrange it
[16:08] <grantw> hi everyone 
[16:08] <kbmonkey> :]
[16:08] <Cantide> k, i'll catch you on here sometime :p
[16:08] <Kilos> oh my this centos gives the choice of gnome kde server and i dunno what more
[16:08] <Cantide> hi grantw '<
[16:08] <Vince-0> centos with x? noooo
[16:08] <Kilos> hows things grantw 
[16:08] <Kilos> you been scarce
[16:09] <grantw> going OK, been sick for 4days
[16:09] <Cantide> Kilos, have no DE and just use the terminal :)
[16:09] <Kilos> no man
[16:09] <Cantide> 'O'
[16:09] <Kilos> i dont want a server
[16:09] <Kilos> i wanna see wassup
[16:09] <Cantide> then what are you using it for?
[16:09] <Kilos> for the LPI classes
[16:09] <Vince-0> I use webmin for a gui
[16:10] <Kilos> thats what they use
[16:10] <Cantide> why not use Ubuntu?
[16:10] <Cantide> ah..
[16:10] <Vince-0> wait for rpm vs deb package management
[16:10] <Cantide> Vince-0, yeah, i had a centos server with cpanel on it >.<
[16:10] <Cantide> and enjoy yum, Kilos :)
[16:10] <kbmonkey> yum!
[16:10] <Cantide> hehe
[16:10] <Kilos> ai!
[16:10] <Vince-0> 6.4 Centos?
[16:10] <kbmonkey> 5
[16:10] <Kilos> thats redhat?
[16:11] <Cantide> it is redhat
[16:11] <Cantide> rebranded
[16:11] <Cantide> and free
[16:11] <Cantide> and without support
[16:11] <Kilos> why isnt LPI in debian
[16:11] <Cantide> or something like that
[16:11]  * Kilos cries
[16:11] <Cantide> lol
[16:11] <Vince-0> its distro agnostic
[16:11] <kbmonkey> what? really? I thought Fedora is RedHat unbranded
[16:12] <kbmonkey> Kilos, did it see your drive yet?
[16:12] <Cantide> "CentOS ("Community Enterprise Operating System") is a Linux distribution which attempts to provide a free enterprise class computing platform which has 100% binary compatibility with its upstream source, Red Hat Enterprise Linux (RHEL)"
[16:12] <Vince-0> Fedora is more the testing ground for cutting edge repos + kernels
[16:12] <Vince-0> I tend to stick 1 version behind latest on Fedora
[16:13] <kbmonkey> ah great thanks Cantide 
[16:13] <Cantide> i just pulled that from wikipedia :p
[16:13] <Vince-0> Maaz: what is Centos
[16:13] <Maaz> Vince-0: I'm afraid I have no idea
[16:13] <Cantide> lol
[16:13] <Vince-0> Maaz: wikipedia Centos
[16:13] <Maaz> Vince-0: What?
[16:13] <Cantide> Maaz, coffee please
[16:13] <Maaz> Cantide: There isn't a pot on
[16:13] <Cantide> Maaz, coffee on
[16:13]  * Maaz washes some mugs
[16:13] <Vince-0> Maaz: google Centos
[16:13] <Maaz> Vince-0: "www.centos.org - The Community ENTerprise Operating System" http://www.centos.org/ :: "www.centos.org - centos.org content" http://www.centos.org/mirrors :: "CentOS - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CentOS :: "DistroWatch.com: CentOS" http://distrowatch.com/centos :: "6 Things You Should Know About CentOS Linux - rackAID"
[16:13] <Maaz> http://www.rackaid.com/resources/things-to-know-about-centos-linux/ :: "Karanbir Singh (Cen…
[16:14] <Kilos> ya its installing kbmonkey 
[16:14] <kbmonkey> Maaz, where are the rusks?
[16:14] <Maaz> kbmonkey: Erk, dunno
[16:14] <Cantide> 'O'
[16:14] <Kilos> Maaz, rusks please
[16:14] <Maaz> behind the calender on top of the fridge, but dont tell everyone Kilos
[16:14] <Vince-0> Maas, can I get hard liquor instead
[16:14] <Vince-0> Maaz, can I get hard liquor instead
[16:14] <Maaz> Vince-0: What?
[16:14] <Vince-0> maas lol
[16:15] <Kilos> he used to say he wont help corrupt the younguns
[16:17] <Vince-0> Maaz: I'm over 18 years old, promise
[16:17] <Maaz> Vince-0: *blink*
[16:17] <Kilos> hehe
[16:17] <Cantide> i see <blink> is being removed from html
[16:17] <Cantide> about blinking time  :D
[16:17] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Cantide!
[16:17] <Cantide> yaay!
[16:18] <Cantide> thanks, Maaz
[16:18] <Maaz> Cantide: Sure
[16:25] <Kilos> kbmonkey, im not gonna have to update/upgrade to practise on it am i?
[16:26] <kbmonkey> no, I doubt that Kilos 
[16:27] <Kilos> yay
[16:27] <kbmonkey> in fact,youre probably gonna reinstall it a few times to try out the other options ;)
[16:27] <kbmonkey> like lvm
[16:27] <Kilos> lol
[16:27] <kbmonkey> only a 6GB drive in that machine?
[16:27] <Kilos> shame that poor 6g drive
[16:27] <kbmonkey> hope you dont run out of space
[16:28] <Kilos> yeah
[16:28] <kbmonkey> how did you get past the space limit?
[16:28] <Kilos> well plugged in anyway
[16:28] <Kilos> it didnt complain i just deleted everything i could in the partition tool
[16:29] <kbmonkey> ah
[16:29] <kbmonkey> using the DVD isos or live CD?
[16:30] <kbmonkey> man I feel too lazy to make dinner. guess it has to be done 
[16:30] <Kilos> the dvd
[16:31] <kbmonkey> make dinner && sudo eat
[16:31] <Kilos> hehe
[16:33] <Kilos> it only used 2.3g of the drive
[16:34] <Cantide> i used "sudo_wrestler" as my real name on IRC :)
[16:34] <Cantide> i think sudo wrestlers eat a lot
[16:35] <Kilos> lol
[16:37] <Kilos> i dont like the blue screen too msish
[16:40] <inetpro> hmm...
[16:40] <Kilos> lo inetpro 
[16:40] <inetpro> good evening
[16:41]  * inetpro seeing talk about everything but ubuntu?
[16:41] <inetpro> ai!
[16:41] <Kilos> well no ubuntu stuff is breaking
[16:42] <Kilos> and the lpi think is for the centos thing
[16:42] <inetpro> almost thought I was in the wrong channel
[16:42] <Kilos> lol
[16:43] <kbmonkey> off to make some dinner, be back later :]
[16:43] <Cantide> "...she calls up her favourite black ops field agent Kruger (Sharlto Copley, playing an Afrikaans cyborg ninja hobo, who is every bit as awesome as he sounds) to rain down death, destruction and the most nightmarish rendition of Jan Pierewiet the world has ever seen."
[16:43] <Cantide> loool :D
[16:46] <Kilos> you missed nocware inetpro that was ubuntu
[16:46] <Kilos> 12.04
[16:50] <inetpro> Kilos: ok, you are forgiven
[16:50] <inetpro> but just this time
[16:50] <Kilos> ty sir
[16:51] <inetpro> next time you pay up front
[16:53] <Kilos> ai!
[16:54] <Cantide> good night '-'/
[16:54] <Kilos> night cant
[16:54] <Kilos> ai!
[17:18] <nuvolari> right! I fixed it
[17:18] <nuvolari> my vodacom connection
[17:18] <nuvolari> I bought 8ta data
[17:18] <nuvolari> and... tada!
[17:18] <Kilos> yay
[17:18] <Kilos> whats tada
[17:19] <nuvolari> nee nooit oom Kilos!
[17:19] <nuvolari> hocus, pocus, tada!
[17:19] <Kilos> huh
[17:19] <nuvolari> :P
[17:19] <Kilos> lol
[17:19] <nuvolari> "en siedaar"
[17:20] <Kilos> ek gebruik daai centos van jou
[17:20] <Kilos> op ander pc
[17:22] <grantw> so I hear Richard Stallman is coming to za
[17:22] <Kilos> that like fixing a windows pc by installing ubuntu
[17:23] <Kilos> grantw, are you on our mailing list
[17:23] <Kilos> the okes been mailing info there about it
[17:24] <grantw> yes, I'm on the mail list
[17:26] <grantw> sounds interesting, who is going?
[17:27] <Kilos> where are you?
[17:27] <nuvolari> o/
[17:27] <grantw> cape town
[17:27] <nuvolari> Kilos: werk daai centos nog!? :P
[17:28] <Kilos> ek het nou nou instaleer seun
[17:28] <nuvolari> wag, dink dit was fedora, nie so nie?
[17:28] <Kilos> en t=die cd test gedoen en was goed
[17:28] <Kilos> centOS
[17:28] <Kilos> 5
[17:28] <Kilos> blou skerm ding
[17:28] <Kilos> met gnome
[17:28] <nuvolari> aah! ek onthou, ek't centos geinstall voordat hy my te veel issues gegee het
[17:29] <Kilos> hehe
[17:29] <nuvolari> :O blou skerm ding. dit was 'n lekker c'putertjie daai
[17:29] <Kilos> lyk soos vensters
[17:29] <Kilos> dis op die selle pc
[17:30] <nuvolari> ek jeuk, ek wil nie meer ubuntu hol nie
[17:30] <nuvolari> oh hi theblazehen 
[17:30] <theblazehen> hi nuvolari 
[17:30] <Kilos> ai!
[17:30] <theblazehen> hi Kilos 
[17:30] <Kilos> hi theblazehen 
[17:30] <Kilos> ohi superfly 
[17:31] <superfly> hi Kilos
[17:47] <kbmonkey> hallo nuvolari 0\
[17:59] <Kilos> hes gone to sleep
[17:59] <kbmonkey> he got the right idea
[17:59] <kbmonkey> zzz -.-
[17:59] <Kilos> lol
[18:00] <Kilos> me too soon. got up to runlevels with a modicum of understanding
[18:00] <Kilos> will go through that tomorrow
[18:01] <Kilos> i think thats english
[18:06] <kbmonkey> lol
[18:06] <nuvolari> oh hi kbmonkey 
[18:06] <kbmonkey> pretty tired tonight
[18:09] <Kilos> kbmonkey, you gotta advertise on the lists about classes
[18:09] <Kilos> then you can go sleep
[18:09] <Kilos> hoe gaan dit daar nuvolari 
[18:10] <Kilos> hoekom moeg ubuntu
[18:12] <nuvolari> dit gaan goed dankie oom
[18:12] <nuvolari> beter week as laas week
[18:21] <Kilos> that lvm thing , what is it for
[18:28] <nuvolari> IIRC logical volume management? 
[18:29] <nuvolari> well, a guess oom Kilos :P
[18:29] <Kilos> ya but whats that for
[18:29] <theblazehen> Basically flexible partitions
[18:29] <theblazehen> so you can rersize it on the fly
[18:29] <nuvolari> it enables you to combine the space from multiple drives into one, for example
[18:29] <theblazehen> yeah, and what I said
[18:30] <Kilos> oh my
[18:30] <Kilos> clever hey'
[18:30] <nuvolari> and more
[18:30] <Kilos> i go sleep. night all. lekker slaap
[18:30] <nuvolari> night oom Kilos 
[18:30] <nuvolari> lekker slaap
[18:31] <nuvolari> I should try to fix my arch boot 
[18:31] <Kilos> danke
[18:31] <kbmonkey> gn ki	:]
[18:31] <kbmonkey> ai ai ai, the 3g is failing tonight
[18:34] <kbmonkey> oh git tags are neat. how come I never used these before?
[18:47] <theblazehen> kbmonkey, what they do?
[18:48] <kbmonkey> they mark a specific commit with a name so you can get the code for that version
[18:50] <kbmonkey> hmm, I do not have any windows to test if my game runs through this pyg launcher
[19:04] <theblazehen> ah ty
[19:14] <kbmonkey> have you worked with git theblazehen ?
[19:47] <nuvolari> \o/ it's alive!!!
[19:47] <nuvolari> after months!
[19:48] <nuvolari> I love Arch again :>
[19:48] <kbmonkey> lol!
[19:49] <kbmonkey> still have not run Arch 
[19:49] <nuvolari> aw :-/
[19:49] <nuvolari> kbmonkey: I think you'll love it
[19:49] <nuvolari> I have not tried #!, but I get the idea they are similar
[19:49] <kbmonkey> I may be getting my afrihost mobile device this week, then I will have to celebrate by downloading a distro :D
[19:50] <nuvolari> ok... so let me see how much updates I have 
[19:50] <kbmonkey> a lot of the crunchbang people also run Arch, or even only Arch
[19:50] <kbmonkey> on the forums
[19:51] <nuvolari> good grief! 407MiB's downloads :-/
[19:52] <kbmonkey> wow! what windows manager have you installed with it ?
[19:52] <nuvolari> my boss set up arch on his monster box at home
[19:52] <nuvolari> kbmonkey: xfce
[19:52] <nuvolari> it's on my netbook, so I tried to make it as lightweight as possible
[19:52] <kbmonkey> there were lots of updates from upstream the past few months though
[19:53] <nuvolari> the trouble with arch is that you'll have to update frequently
[19:53] <nuvolari> or rather, there ar e frequent updates
[19:54] <kbmonkey> itit is a custom rolled distro right? not based on debian is it?
[19:54] <kbmonkey> it is*
[19:54] <nuvolari> yeah
[19:54] <nuvolari> it's somewhere based between package managed and gentoo
[19:55] <kbmonkey> as I understand it's updates are as frequents as if running debian sid
[19:55] <kbmonkey> i.e. very regular XD
[19:55] <nuvolari> I had to install some stuff that required git (which is spart of the build system)
[19:56] <nuvolari> so it's quite source-oriented
[19:56] <nuvolari> but ont as bad as gentoo
[19:56] <nuvolari> argh, lag
[19:56] <nuvolari> *not
[19:56] <nuvolari> well, I can't really comment on gentoo
[19:56] <nuvolari> I heard the stories, you know
[19:57] <nuvolari> all of a sudden I crave some pasta
[19:57] <kbmonkey> ah it is rolling release
[19:57] <nuvolari> :-/
[19:57] <nuvolari> brb
[19:57] <kbmonkey> LOL
[19:57] <nuvolari> yeah, rolling release
[19:57] <nuvolari> I just resqued my system with a "january" image
[19:58] <nuvolari> oh sorry, february
[20:01] <kbmonkey> well I got all my dotfiles on github and that includes my window manager bindings and shortcuts, 
[20:01] <kbmonkey> be interesting to see how portable they are on another distro :D
[20:29] <nuvolari> alrighty, seems stable again
[20:29] <nuvolari> and I promise to never force an upgrade again when a warning is given :P