[01:03] <OvenWerk1> knome: turns out Both amps work just fine... which means they have had time to really cool down... Going to have to run them both enough to cycle the temperature.
[01:06] <OvenWerk1> way more power than what I was using for monitoring before.
[01:10] <knome> :)
[01:10] <knome> nice
[01:11] <OvenWerk1> I can listen in _any_ part of the house I like :P Maybe a bit much
[01:14] <micahg> OvenWerk1: is anything needed from me?
[01:15] <OvenWerk1> As soon as I push ubuntustudio-icon-theme it can be uploaded, but it is not urgent.
[01:16] <OvenWerk1> It does not have to be changed to work with everything, just cleanup
[01:17] <OvenWerk1> micahg: it has been pushed, But like I say, it is not urgent.
[01:17] <micahg> I'll see if it's easy
[01:21] <micahg> does -menu have a proper replaces on -icon-theme?
[01:21] <OvenWerk1> The icon theme is still uused
[01:21] <OvenWerk1> Also the old icons and the new have different names
[01:21] <micahg> ah, ok
[01:22] <micahg> nothing needed then
[01:25] <micahg> uploaded
[01:27] <OvenWerk1> micahg: Thank you.
[04:57] <zequence> OvenWerk1: The icon theme only has the CoF now, right? The license should probably be derived from the Ubuntu CoF
[04:57] <zequence> and we still don't know who created the Ubuntu Studio version
[04:57] <zequence> And that's only for the CoF
[05:00] <zequence> If we get more icons, those should have their own license
[05:07] <OvenWerk1> zequence: there are two more in there for some applications that don't come with their own (hexter and one of the sound card controlers)
[05:08] <OvenWerk1> I have left the copyrights pretty much as is. Scott had labled the COF as cc-sa 2.5. The I put together are the same. The debiam directory has been left as gpl2+. I don't know if that should be changed
[05:09] <OvenWerk1> But that was the way it was already listed.
[05:22] <zequence> Ah, ok
[05:23] <zequence> OvenWerk1: We should probably create a policy for licenses when it concerns the debian dir
[05:31] <OvenWerk1> zequence: I think most of the "debianizing" lic are gpl2+
[05:33] <OvenWerk1> But I don't know if the *.deb package is actually licenced or how as a container itself.
[05:33] <OvenWerk1> It is supposed to be able to hold packages of various lic, inc, prop.
[05:34] <OvenWerk1> It may effectively be PD.
[05:34] <zequence> Don't have the time to check now, but I'd look through here http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/
[05:35] <zequence> What's PD? 
[05:35] <OvenWerk1> public domain
[05:35] <OvenWerk1> It is a standard.
[07:11] <smartboyhw> Welcome cub 
[07:11] <cub> thank you smartboyhw and good morning. :D
[07:12] <cub> I saw that Planet Ubuntu tweeted your blog post
[07:12] <smartboyhw> cub, well, if you are an Ubuntu member you can post to Planet Ubuntu
[07:13] <smartboyhw> (And I can post to Planet KDE too)
[07:13] <cub> aha
[07:24] <smartboyhw> ttoine, hello, when can we officially announce the store?
[07:24] <ttoine> smartboyhw, sure
[07:24] <smartboyhw> ttoine, sure?
[07:24] <ttoine> but it's up to zequence  to take the decision
[07:24] <smartboyhw> ttoine, OK:)
[07:25] <ttoine> now, he has all the elements
[07:27] <smartboyhw> zequence-work, ttoine says the store is ready to be announced
[07:28] <ttoine> smartboyhw, for me it has always been ;-)
[07:28] <smartboyhw> So, should we announce it?
[07:28] <smartboyhw> ttoine, LOL
[07:29] <cub> there was a discussion about..a week ago? Check the logs
[07:30] <zequence-work> I've just been busy the last weeks. Exams, debconf, etc
[07:31] <zequence-work> I'll create a page for it within the week
[07:31] <cub> hey zequence-work when is the interview today?
[07:31] <zequence-work> At 15.00
[07:33] <cub> wear your ubuntu studio t-shirt. ;)
[07:33] <smartboyhw> cub, no, wear one with Linux logo:)
[07:36] <ttoine> no
[07:36] <smartboyhw> ttoine, ?
[07:36] <ttoine> It would be nice to wear to Ubuntu Studio stuff
[07:36] <ttoine> it will introduce the shop
[07:37] <smartboyhw> ttoine, I'm afraid the interviewer won't even know what's Ubuntu Studio:P Maybe wear a Linux T-shirt and bring along a mug:P
[07:44] <ttoine> smartboyhw, what kind of interview it is ?
[07:44] <ttoine> smartboyhw, the interviewer will asks what the shirt is about
[07:44] <smartboyhw> ttoine, Linux job interview:)
[07:44] <ttoine> for a job ??
[07:44] <ttoine> ouch
[07:45] <smartboyhw> Well, at least wearing the T-shirt does show zequence-work's Linux geekiness
[07:45] <ttoine> but maybe they don't look for a geek ;-)
[07:45] <smartboyhw> ttoine, that, I don't know:-)
[07:45] <ttoine> at my work, not all developpers are geeks ;-)
[07:46] <ttoine> but most of them eat Java and Linux at breakfast
[07:46] <smartboyhw> ttoine, eat!>
[07:46] <smartboyhw> ?
[07:47] <smartboyhw> -.-
[07:50] <zequence-work> They are looking for Linux people, and probably they know what Ubuntu is. I find that many do, but they don't often know Ubuntu Studio
[07:51] <zequence-work> Musicians who use Ubuntu are usually the ones most likely to know Ubuntu Studio
[07:51] <smartboyhw> zequence-work, so, wear a Ubuntu T-shirt?
[07:51] <smartboyhw> And bring your Ubuntu member cert?
[07:52] <cub> To work for HiQ I think the way to go is shirt and perhaps even a suit.
[07:52] <cub> and then have a geeky CV
[07:53] <zequence-work> I have my pure data t-shirt on. Suits and shirts will have to wait for later :P
[07:58] <cub> zequence-work, I hit a snag with my create-several-test-partitions-project
[07:58] <cub> stupid windows already have created 3 primary partitions, Ubuntu Studio 12.04 on the fourth. Doh!
[07:58] <zequence-work> cub: Should be enough I think
[07:59] <cub> anyone used partimage?
[07:59] <zequence-work> just use logical volumes
[07:59] <zequence-work> not me
[07:59] <cub> zequence-work, sadly no. I can't do anything with my free space.
[08:00] <zequence-work> Newer partition tables don't have these limitations
[08:00] <zequence-work> Would be time to start using those :P
[08:00] <cub> I shrinked the windows OS partition and got 100 GB left over. But it's outside of the Ubuntu one
[08:01] <cub> zequence-work, how can I do that?
[08:25] <ttoine> smartboyhw, it is an american sentence. If you look at the Pixar movie "Cars", at the beggining, McQueen says "I eat loosers at breakfast" ;-)
[08:26] <ttoine> To work for HiQ I think the way to go is shirt and perhaps even a suit. -> I agree with Cub
[08:27] <ttoine> But what I do know, is calling the company before the interview and ask about the dress code
[08:28] <ttoine> zequence, I get my job as a community manager for I put a lot of details on what I do/did for free and open source software on my resume / CV
[08:28] <ttoine> don't forget that this is valuable experience ;-)
[08:29] <ttoine> cub, did you tried gparted ? I did something like that previous week on my laptop
[08:30] <ttoine> gparted even reconfigure grub
[08:30] <ttoine> zequence, ?
[08:31] <cub> ttoine, I could only find options in gparted to make a copy to another disk. I needed an iso file.
[08:32] <ttoine> cub, could you tell me what do you try to do ? sometimes, gparted is a bit tricky, you have to carefully respect steps
[08:33] <cub> My HDD was set in 4 partitions: win-recover, win-boot, win-OS and Ubuntu 12.04
[08:33] <cub> I free up 100 GB from the win-os partitino
[08:34] <cub> to be able to use it to install saucy. But since there already were 4 primary partitions I couldn't do that. So I wanted to make a copy of the recovery partition in case my burnt dvds go corrupt in the future
[08:35] <cub> partimage seems to have done the job. Well, I have not done a restore test but...
[08:36] <cub> Now I'm a bit concerned that I could only make the free 100 GB as a primary partition. I'll see if I can divide it up when installing.
[08:37] <cub> perhaps you can't have two Extended partitions..*sigh
[09:17] <smartboyhw> ttoine, :O
[09:17]  * smartboyhw watched Cars many times and don't know about this
[09:27] <ttoine> cub, sure you can
[09:28] <ttoine> cub, you don't have any swap ??
[09:29] <ttoine> cub, first, delete win partition. It should be free non allocated space. then, move the ubuntu partition at the beginning of the disk. you can do that with gparted, with a live cd/usb (the ubuntu partition must not be mounted)
[09:29] <ttoine> then, the free space will be after the usb partition
[09:30] <ttoine> and you will be able to create a new logic partition. you can create up to 3 or 4 primary partitions, including master logical partitions
[09:31] <ttoine> once done, you can create a lot of new partitions in the logical partition
[09:31] <ttoine> in gparted, to create logical partition, you must first create a "extended" partition. thats what I called the master logical partition, sorry for the mistake
[09:32] <ttoine> I did that last week from a live cd, and it worked great. this is a bit long to apply.
[09:41] <cub> ttoine, the Ubuntu partition is an extended partition which include three logical partitions: / /home and swap
[09:45] <ttoine> cub, ok. exactly like my pc
[09:45] <ttoine> the ubuntu extended partition is before or after the current 100 gb free space ?
[09:46] <cub> after
[09:46] <cub> !paste
[09:47] <ttoine> in gparted, you can move the partition at the beginning of the disk
[09:47] <cub> ttoine, http://imagebin.org/268878
[09:47] <ttoine> ok
[09:47] <ttoine> did you take this picture from a live cd, cub ?
[09:48] <cub> but to do that it will move around the data on the win OS partition as well? /dev/sda3
[09:48] <cub> no that's from inside my 12.04 instllation.
[09:48] <ttoine> that is the proble
[09:48] <ttoine> m
[09:48] <cub> I'm not trying to change anything yet.
[09:48] <ttoine> to move your ubuntu extended partitions, they have to be unmounted. it means you have to use gparted on a live cd
[09:48] <cub> yes.
[09:49] <cub> but before I do anything like that I need to confirm whether it will move data on /dev/sda3
[09:49] <cub> because I've read too many storys on the net of gparted screwing up ntfs and win os partitions
[09:50] <ttoine> cub, what I would do
[09:50] <ttoine> use the first 14Gb as swap.
[09:50] <ttoine> don't touch ntfs partitions.
[09:50] <ttoine> move ubuntu extended partition next to ntfs ones
[09:51] <ttoine> then, the 100gb are at the end.
[09:51] <ttoine> and then, you can add the free space to the extended partition, and create more logical partitions.
[09:51] <ttoine> I need to go
[09:51] <cub> that sounds like a plan!
[09:52] <ttoine> yep
[09:53] <cub> thanks. I'll get it running during lunch. What could POSSIBLY go wrong?! :P
[09:56] <ttoine> cub, if you don't touch ntfs, all should be right
[09:56] <ttoine> the only wreong stuff is electricity shutdown during the moving process
[09:56] <cub> hehe
[09:57] <cub> I need to read up on how to tell my US to change swap
[13:05] <ttoine> cub, you don't have to do anything
[13:05] <ttoine> linux use swap automatically
[13:05] <ttoine> if available
[13:08] <smartboyhw> OvenWerk1, do we have any package that's left to be uploaded?
[13:27] <cub> aha, I did a swapon anyhow, looked fine. :)
[13:27] <cub> it's moving the 250 gig part right now, 3 hours and counting
[13:28] <smartboyhw> cub, 3 HOURS?
[13:28] <smartboyhw> :O
[13:28] <cub> yup and it's not done yet
[13:30] <cub> the disk was full so a lot of things to move
[14:54] <zequence> ttoine: Yes, I added FLOSS work on my CV, as that's mostly what I have to offer :P
[14:54] <smartboyhw> zequence, heh, you are about to have your interview now is it?
[14:54] <zequence> Going there a second time for a second interview next week
[14:54] <ttoine> zequence, well done !
[14:54] <zequence> So, story is not over yet
[14:54] <zequence> Would be great to get that job
[14:55] <zequence> Let's see next week :)
[14:55] <ttoine> zequence, don't forget to check with them that there no problem for them to let you continue to be involved in Ubuntu Studio
[14:55] <zequence> ttoine: I'm pretty sure that will be fine
[14:55] <zequence> They run ubuntu over there
[14:55] <zequence> On many of their machines
[14:55] <ttoine> in some case, in your contract it is written that you can't do the same for your hobbies
[14:55] <ttoine> zequence, for my job, I had to ask for a written confirmation
[14:56] <zequence> hmm, well, they are pretty easy to get along with, so I'm sure it will be fine
[14:56] <zequence> but, that's a good thing to consider
[14:56] <zequence> I'll ask about it next time
[14:56] <ttoine> zequence, it is always better to check that before beginning the job
[14:57] <ttoine> if for any reason your boss come to you and say there is a problem, having a document is better than nothing
[14:57] <OvenWerk1> smartboyhw: I have had all the uploads done I need. I am just waiting for them to get into the wild.
[14:57] <smartboyhw> OvenWerk1, good:)
[14:57] <smartboyhw> That's better than Xubuntu currently:P
[14:58] <OvenWerk1> 4 uploads :)
[14:58] <zequence> I'll do that :). Now, time to go cycling. About 80km today :P
[14:58] <ttoine> OvenWerk1, I hope it will not be blocked by a spring river
[14:58] <OvenWerk1> some of xubuntu's stuff will affect us I think. catfish is waiting to go.
[14:58] <smartboyhw> zequence, STAY for vUDS please;P
[14:59] <smartboyhw> OvenWerk1, micahg will be doing uploads today I heard
[14:59] <OvenWerk1> thas the plan.
[14:59] <zequence> smartboyhw: What do you mean? Which vUDS? This one?
[14:59] <smartboyhw> zequence, this one
[14:59] <zequence> We don't have any sessions planned
[15:00] <zequence> I personally don't know of anything that would be important for us at this time
[15:00] <smartboyhw> zequence, testing?
[15:00] <zequence> However, I think we should do a proper meeting with all our members around next vUDS, and preferably do a session out of it
[15:01] <zequence> 14.04 just has to be great. That's all I'm thinking about right now :)
[15:01] <smartboyhw> zequence, :)
[15:02] <zequence> OvenWerk1 has done a lot of great work for 13.10, so much credit to him. It really has moved things forward a bit
[15:02] <zequence> And of course, everything else. We shouldn't forget the webshop either, done by ttoine 
[15:03] <smartboyhw> Ye[
[15:03] <smartboyhw> *Yep
[15:03] <OvenWerk1> Just having more people interested in contributing is a big plus.
[15:03] <smartboyhw> zequence, you can write a memoir:P
[15:03] <smartboyhw> (On your blog ofc)
[15:04] <zequence> I've been really busy just moving forward in my personal life, that it has been hard for me to do any proper work for a while. I've done a lot of stuff, but not much that shows
[15:04] <smartboyhw> Well, OvenWerk1 is the certain person we should clap clap on
[15:05] <zequence> We need to reorganize our planning, blueprints, teams and projects a bit
[15:05] <smartboyhw> zequence, how are you planning to?
[15:05] <smartboyhw> We almost do that every cycle:P
[15:06] <zequence> Well, I based the planning on previous work. This year will be different
[15:06] <zequence> Documentation needs a bit of push, and we need to hunt for more contributors again
[15:06] <zequence> I only got full control of all projects and groups quite recently
[15:07] <zequence> Next step is to make sure at least one more person has that too
[15:07] <smartboyhw> zequence, I recommend OvenWerk1 
[15:07] <smartboyhw> :)
[15:07] <zequence> Yes, he is the obvious choice
[15:10] <smartboyhw> zequence, Google doesn't allow me to join vUDS Hangouts because I'm under 18...
[15:10] <smartboyhw> -.-
[15:11] <zequence> That's pretty silly
[15:11] <smartboyhw> zequence, +1
[15:11]  * smartboyhw writes an complaint letter to Google about this
[15:12] <zequence> It will probably be read by an Android too
[15:12] <zequence> Ok, gotta go. bb this evening for a bit, and then tomorrow again. I might have some time to work tomorrow
[15:26] <smartboyhw> zequence, http://smartboyhwubuntu.wordpress.com/2013/08/27/google-please-let-me-join-vuds/