[01:59] <caodepalha> hi everyone1 is anyone using the gnome desktop enviroment with ubuntustudio?
[02:00] <holstein> no.. but there should be no issues with it caodepalha
[02:00] <holstein> what would i do? get minimal, or main ubuntu.. get gnome running.. add what meta-packages or just plain audio/video packages i want
[02:00] <holstein> !mini
[02:02] <caodepalha> so it is safe to install it in ubuntustudio then'
[02:02] <caodepalha> ?
[02:02] <holstein> safe?
[02:02] <holstein> caodepalha: as i said, it should work fine.. there is nothing that will "break", AFAIK
[02:02] <caodepalha> thank you :)
[02:02] <holstein> caodepalha: i also explained how i personally would go about doing it
[02:03] <holstein> but, if you just want to install ubuntustudio and add gnome, you should be able to keep XFCE and ubuntustudio-desktop, and just choose gnome at login.. unless you switch to gdm, then, it'll look different there as well
[02:04] <holstein> caodepalha: you will want to be cautious about adding PPA's..
[02:06] <caodepalha> i'm installing it via terminal
[02:06] <holstein> caodepalha: its pretty irrelevant the method by which you obtain the packages.. but, if you use an unsupported source, such as PPA, you'll want to be cautious
[02:07] <caodepalha> ok why?
[02:08] <holstein> !ppa
[02:08] <holstein> ^^
[02:08] <caodepalha> thanks!
[02:08] <holstein> caodepalha: since you referenced "safe" above
[02:14] <OvenWerk1> holstein: So far as I know, The only thing to watch for is that the machine can run The gnome session at all.
[02:14] <holstein> OvenWerk1: thats true
[02:14] <OvenWerk1> Might be best to at least try the ubuntugnome ISO live first
[02:14] <holstein> i should have said, its a 3d desktop.. i assumed that was known..
[02:15] <holstein> and shouldnt have
[02:15] <OvenWerk1> So long as the DE works on the hardware there is no problem with any of the studio SW, zequence runs the debian version.\
[10:18] <maxvaliant> ciao a tutti sono nuovo di linux, come posso installare office?
[10:20] <smartboyhw> maxvaliant, ?
[10:20] <smartboyhw> !it | maxvaliant
[10:22] <maxvaliant> ok grazie e....ciao
[15:16] <kiki__> hi
[15:19] <kiki__> i have a small problem. when not using jack, if i play a game trough wine, and i have skype making a call, the audio is "scratchy" how can i fix it?
[17:24] <Sakrecoer> hi all! :)
[17:24] <studio-user321> Hi
[17:25] <Sakrecoer> recently, many freinds have come to see me and ask to install ubuntustudio on their machines...
 and thn u did help!
[17:28] <Sakrecoer> most of them come and see me with older machines. because they want to try first... before they sort of "convert" on their production machines ....  i am thinking about having a partition on my HD, where i can boot up a system that would deliver installations to other machines thru LAN-boot.
[17:28] <Sakrecoer> could any one here point me to a how-to set up something like that?
[17:30] <Sakrecoer> LAN-boot installation seems to be pretty faster than USB. Not to mention that on some older machines LAN is the easiest way to get anythin on there. (in example when bios can't boot on USB, or no floppy disks available etc)
[17:31] <studio-user321> Hi Sakrecoer i am new to linux! and now i am installing to ubuntu studio to my laptop toshiba
[17:33] <studio-user321> i do not know more about ubuntu but i think so that you can install ubuntu from LAN.
[17:42] <Sakrecoer> thanks for answering studio-user321 :) yes i'm 98% sure it's possible with all ubuntu distro... i'm just having a hard time finding out how to proceed... so thought i might check here if anyone had a link to detailed documentation
[17:43] <OvenWerk1> Sakrecoer: hang around till zequence gets home and ask again
[17:43] <OvenWerk1> I think he has better experience than most
 You can try googling!
[17:48] <Sakrecoer> thanks guys! hehe studio-user321: you are so right! even thou i prefer searching the internet, over googling it <3 i have searched for it, but not really found the answers i need, or perhaps just not the ones i expect??... thanks alot anyways! :)
[17:49] <studio-user321> You're welcome.
[18:32] <zequence> Sakrecoer: It's possible to install both from network and from a partition on the HD
[18:33] <zequence> In the first case you need to set up a server which has the proper installation files in it. The Debian wiki has some docs on different way to achieve that
[18:33] <zequence> The second case means you need to set up GRUB to boot an installer on the HD
[18:33] <zequence> Sakrecoer: Did you try installing from a usb stick?
[18:33] <Sakrecoer> Hi zequence! good to read you!
[18:34] <Sakrecoer> it's the network case i am interested in :)
[18:34] <Sakrecoer> yes yes! every works fine!
[18:34] <zequence> I've only done it once myself
[18:34] <zequence> So, I don't remember the details
[18:34] <Sakrecoer> i just need to boot from LAN from a machine that has no floppy, no CD-rom and no bootable usb...
[18:34] <zequence> You could also put the stuff on the HD. That's the easiest way
[18:35] <Sakrecoer> oh really...?
[18:35] <zequence> There are two variants. One where you install over the entire HD. And one where you don't install over the installers partition
[18:35] <Sakrecoer> but then, do i transfer it to the target machine via LAN?
[18:36] <Sakrecoer> or do you mean, like, physicaly mounting the disk in the target machine?
[18:36] <zequence> The target machine needs to have GRUB already
[18:36] <Sakrecoer> even if i boot it over LAN?
[18:36] <zequence> You download the right files, and manually set GRUB to boot from it
[18:36] <zequence> You don't use LAn
[18:36] <zequence> just one machine
[18:36] <zequence> Short of time, but I'll be back
[18:37] <Sakrecoer> yes, but i don't want to have to physicaly unmount the HD and then put it back in the target machine...
[18:37] <Sakrecoer> no worries!
[18:37] <Sakrecoer> i'll keep you posted if i find something on my own ;)
[18:38] <Sakrecoer> i need to set up that server for my purpose...
[18:45] <Sakrecoer> thanks zequence! i was stuck on the word LAN....
[18:45] <Sakrecoer> "network boot" got me to this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/Netboot
[18:45] <Sakrecoer> which is exactly what i need!
[20:10] <studio-user143> hello . may i get some help please
[20:12] <OvenWerk1>   If you report your problem, perhaps the most qualified person will resond when they see it :)
[20:14] <studio-user143> in fact , i setup ubuntu studio r8 nww
[20:14] <studio-user143> but 2 h left and it hasn't finish yet
[20:16] <OvenWerk1> Did you set it to download updates as it installs? Is there network activity?\
[20:16] <studio-user143> now it's saying >>>> installing system >>> since 15 min till nw
[20:17] <studio-user143> processing triggers for update notifier
[20:17] <OvenWerk1> Ok, the thing to remember is that studio is more than twice the size of the next biggest ISO
[20:18] <studio-user143> u mean to let it take it's time .. there is no problem r8 ?
[20:19] <OvenWerk1> So long as there is activity it should be ok.
[20:20] <studio-user143> ancyanother thing appeared it says : error power management descrepancy
[20:20] <OvenWerk1> When I was testing, I always installed from the live session so I could monitor /var/log/syslog
[20:21] <OvenWerk1>  Has the installer stopped though?
[20:21] <studio-user143> no
[20:21] <OvenWerk1>  Did you get a dialog box?
[20:21] <studio-user143> no no just appeard in the black area below the slideshow
[20:22] <OvenWerk1> Could be a hardware thing where the system doesn't quite know what to do with your HW
[20:23] <studio-user143> i wanna let you knw that i own HP probook which came with  ubuntu . it supports ubuntu how could it be ? won't the laptop work well so ?
[20:23] <OvenWerk1> It may not be able to enter a sleep mode or some such.
[20:24] <OvenWerk1> I can't answer that. I would assume it came with vanilla or ubuntu desktop?
[20:24] <OvenWerk1> It may be an xfce thing.
[20:25] <studio-user143> it's the power management >> the sticker on my laptop says : SUSE Linux enterprise & ubuntu desktop 11
[20:26] <OvenWerk1> I would wait till install is complete and see what works or doesn't.
[20:26] <studio-user143> no changes in the activity area it stopped viewing the error
[20:27] <OvenWerk1> OK is there hd activity or network activity?
[20:28] <OvenWerk1> Are you connected via wireless?
[20:28]  * OvenWerk1 guesses your network is fine as you are talking here..\
[20:28] <studio-user143> yes i talk to u using the laptop r8 nw >>> hd : i don't know >>>> i use wired connection
[20:33] <studio-user143> !
[20:38] <studio-user143> i am here amigo
[20:40] <OvenWerk1> S where are things now?
[20:41] <studio-user143> the same
[20:41] <studio-user143> showing the error
[20:42] <OvenWerk1> Did you check your downloaded ISO against the checksum by chance?
[20:42] <studio-user143> i chose the check desk this morning and told me it's ok >> n errors
[20:43] <OvenWerk1> good
[20:44] <studio-user143> no it isn't good > the installation made me crazy hhhhhh > i really don't know what to do
[20:49] <OvenWerk1> Ya, it is hard to know. I would try again while watching the log. It may give you more info.
[20:49] <OvenWerk1> If you boot to the live session and open a terminal
[20:50] <OvenWerk1>  you can type in:
[20:50] <OvenWerk1> less /var/log/syslog
[20:50] <studio-user143> where should i type this log please
[20:50] <OvenWerk1> when it comes up enter a F (yes capital) and it will follow the end of the logfile
[20:51] <OvenWerk1> In the menu there is a terminal in the first 4 items at the top (can't remomer which right now)
[20:52] <OvenWerk1> you should be able to look at that log now I guess.
[20:53] <OvenWerk1> If you start less /var/log/syslog and then type > it will go to the end and you can page up to see if there are any helpful entries
[20:53] <studio-user143> there is nothing in the top of the screen > just i can see the slide show & the activity area > nothing more is in front of me
[20:54] <studio-user143> with windows language >>> the is no task bar
[20:57] <OvenWerk1> Ok, I am wondering how you managed to start the chat, must be a link from the slide show then.
[20:57] <studio-user143> aha u r r8
[20:58] <OvenWerk1> So you chose install from the boot screen then, ok
[20:59] <OvenWerk1> Easiest to try again but choose the try ubuntustudio option at boot .. the top choice
[20:59] <OvenWerk1> It leaves you with more options
[21:01] <studio-user143> ok . you mean exit > shut down the laptop forcely >> damage the HHD >>> wait 2 more hours >>>> face the same error >>>> u mean all of this r8 >
[21:03] <OvenWerk1> ctrl/alt/F1 should give you a prompt sudo shutdown
[21:04] <OvenWerk1> I'm not there, it is hard to know what questions to ask.
[21:04] <studio-user143> give me an instructions to the best installation way
[21:05] <studio-user143> i have the DVD and the laptop nw what ?
[21:05] <studio-user143> believe it or not
[21:05] <studio-user143> a dialoge box appeared
[21:05] <studio-user143> installation complete
[21:05] <OvenWerk1> It should let you reboot then
[21:06] <studio-user143> if this successsed i will make a post for u on my page on FB >>> i am the 3rd DJ in egypt by the way
[21:06] <OvenWerk1> I normally start the install and walk away
[21:06] <OvenWerk1> video or audio only?
[21:07] <studio-user143> audio
[21:07] <OvenWerk1> mixxx or idjc?
[21:07] <studio-user143> i work for MANOVIN records & Pause studios
[21:07] <OvenWerk1> Or something lese?
[21:07] <studio-user143> i use traktor >>> using wine
[21:07] <OvenWerk1> Ok.
[21:07] <studio-user143> i can't wait
[21:08] <studio-user143> i will reboot
[21:08] <studio-user143> bb
[21:08] <OvenWerk1> ok C U in a bit
[21:35] <HouseLegend> Hello can anyone help me set up 5.1 in ubuntu 13.04 ?
[21:35] <HouseLegend> i have trouble
[21:42] <OvenWerk1> I think, in the menu in multi-media playback there is the pulse audio volume control.
[21:43] <OvenWerk1> on the config tab (last one) there should be a pull down for your card. (internal I would guess)
[21:45] <OvenWerk1> It defaults to stereo, change it to 5.1. If it is like mine, I think you have to have something plugged into it first so the system knows you have enough outputs.
[21:45] <OvenWerk1> plug sensing and all that.
[22:09] <HouseLegend> Anyone can help me out with 5.1 surround in ubuntu 13.04 ?
[22:13] <OvenWerk1>  I think, in the menu in multi-media playback there is the
[22:13] <OvenWerk1>                    pulse audio volume control.
[22:13] <OvenWerk1> 14:43 -!- wilee-nilee [~Carnac@unaffiliated/fyodorovna] has joined #ubuntustudio
[22:13] <OvenWerk1> 14:43 < OvenWerk1> on the config tab (last one) there should be a pull down for
[22:13] <OvenWerk1>                    your card. (internal I would guess)
[22:13] <OvenWerk1> 14:45 < OvenWerk1> It defaults to stereo, change it to 5.1. If it is like mine,
[22:13] <OvenWerk1>                    I think you have to have something plugged into it first so
[22:13] <OvenWerk1>                    the system knows you have enough outputs.
[22:13] <OvenWerk1> 14:45 < OvenWerk1> plug sensing and all that.
[22:13] <OvenWerk1> HouseLegend: Have you tried that ^^^
[22:20] <wilee-nilee> OvenWerk1, Why are you posting what is already available.
[22:23] <HouseLegend> multi-medi aplayback ?
[22:24] <HouseLegend> I cant find that
[22:24] <HouseLegend> OvenWerk1, if you have a sec to help me out