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DanChapmanmorning all06:36
DanChapmanpitti, hey nice work on that shotwell test. :-) quick question, have you added anything new to autopilot-gtk recently, for some reason I can now access the items in a treeview :-) although some have neg rect-coordinates so their no good but most ive seen seem ok08:10
thomiDanChapman: that was fixed a while ago, IIRC08:11
pittiDanChapman: no, I didn't08:12
DanChapmanthomi, oh was it :-) awesome!!08:13
pittiDanChapman: I didn't get any sub-widgets on the tree view, hence the "blind" nagivation with tab08:13
pittiand I tried that just a few days ago08:13
DanChapmanpitti, they don't appear under the tree view widget itself but in the GtkWindowAccessible tree, under GtkTextCellAccessible you can get with with there accessible name, they are buried quite deep but they are there :-)08:15
pittiDanChapman: ah, I ignored the *Accessible bits08:15
pittinice08:15
pittiDanChapman: well, it was my first real ap test (aside from the ap-gtk testsuite)08:16
pittiso I'm still learning :)08:16
pittithanks for the hint!08:16
DanChapmanpitti, were all still learning :-)08:16
NoskcajDanChapman, FYI: someone already ported testdrive to GTK3, it just needs fixing08:23
DanChapmanNoskaj, oh have they, have you got a link to the branch?08:24
DanChapmanNoskcaj: ^^08:24
NoskcajDanChapman, https://code.launchpad.net/~jbicha/testdrive/port-to-gtk308:31
DanChapmanNoskcaj: thanks :-)08:31
Noskcajnp08:31
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balloonsohh porting testdrive to gtk3 :-=)12:55
smartboyhwballoons, those people are great:P13:12
balloonsDanChapman, I wish you could have made the autopilot session yesterday13:23
smartboyhwballoons, I wish I could join in any session:(13:24
balloonselopio, check out the gtk emulator DanChapman is building. He's doing some things we talked about wanting to do yesterday in the call: ubuntuhackers.com13:24
elopioballoons: looking13:25
smartboyhwDanChapman, is there any source code for the theme of your blog?13:26
* balloons can't wait till DanChapman's blog is on planet :-)13:27
smartboyhwballoons, I agree13:28
elopioDanChapman: wow, you have made a lot of them!13:29
balloonsyea, I was on the fence about how much could be done, but I really like what's been done.13:30
elopioI wonder if libautopilot-gtk would be a good place to keep them13:32
elopioor if it's better to have a separate project.13:32
smartboyhwphillw, what is partaking?13:33
DanChapmanballoons: I was listening in to the autopilot session yesterday but couldn't paticipate in it13:34
phillwsmartboyhw: http://www.thefreedictionary.com/partake13:34
DanChapmansmartboyhw: yeah I got the source for it if you want it13:34
smartboyhwDanChapman, send it to smartboyhw@ubuntu.com13:34
DanChapmansmartboyhw: I'll get that to you some point today13:34
smartboyhwphillw, I learnt a new English word!13:35
phillwit's a lazy way of saying "taking part" in the sense that I used it ;)13:36
DanChapmanelopio I wondered the same about where it should go but I was sceptical about how it would turn out at first. But it seems to be holding up ok. balloons we should probably think about where it should actually end up13:38
balloonselopio, DanChapman it is interesting having such emulators be a part of the project..13:38
balloonsfor gtk, all gtk apps can benefit from it, so it's even more universal than the qml one13:39
balloonspitti, can you make this session? http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1308/meeting/21840/community-1308-quality-reporting-bugs/13:44
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=== balloons changed the topic of #ubuntu-quality to: Welcome to Ubuntu Quality | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam | Cadence Week Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/Cadence/Saucy
knomehey balloons13:48
balloonshey knome13:48
knomeballoons, i still can't *delete* testcases or even *unlink* them from testsuites13:48
knomeballoons, is that expected (and why) or is it a bug?13:48
balloonsknome, inability to delete is expected13:49
balloonsunlinking perhaps as well you can only disable13:49
knomeballoons, what about unlinking?13:49
knomethat's stupid13:49
knomeremember our bug with that?13:49
balloonsthis is done to ensure accurate history13:49
knomeaha13:49
balloonsthe unlinking thing might be fixable, it depends13:50
knomestgraber told he's going to fix the original bug, but seriously, super admins should be able to unlink at their discretion13:50
pittiballoons: ah, I was gong to go to "error reporting for click packages"13:52
pittitoo bad that they colide13:52
pittiballoons: oh, your's is in the next slot; can do13:53
balloonspitti, :-) ty13:56
* DanChapman can't decide which session to go to 13:57
SergioMenesesvuds sessions time is killing me =/13:58
smartboyhwSergioMeneses, you are better than me13:59
smartboyhwAge restrictions are killing me =/14:00
SergioMenesessmartboyhw, I dont think so xD14:00
SergioMenesesage? about what?14:00
smartboyhwSergioMeneses, huh, you haven't looked at my newest post did you?14:00
SergioMenesessmartboyhw, no, I didnt14:02
* SergioMeneses checks14:03
SergioMenesessmartboyhw, lol14:15
SergioMenesesgoogle did you that, really?14:15
SergioMenesesjajaja14:15
smartboyhwSergioMeneses, really14:15
SergioMenesesepic fail14:15
SergioMenesesfor google14:15
knomewell you can always just create a puppet account and tell you're over 18.14:15
smartboyhwknome, well, I hate lying about my age14:15
SergioMenesesknome, smartboyhw but google says the content is inappropriate or something like that?14:17
knomeSergioMeneses, yes, because his current account states he is less than 18.14:17
knomeSergioMeneses, if he created a new account saying he is 18 or more, google doesn't restrict his access.14:17
SergioMenesesmmm....14:18
smartboyhwballoons, is ANYBODY joining you on Hangout?14:23
* smartboyhw thinks poor balloons is lonely14:37
DanChapmansmartboyhw: http://ubuntuone.com/1lN3fQdAvV6rLmaAYVPHDF14:37
smartboyhwDanChapman, gonzo:O14:37
* smartboyhw has heard of that name as a famous Japanese animation production company:O14:38
knomeballoons, tap.. tap.. tap..14:39
balloonsso elfy knome phillw smartboyhw you able to make the quality flavors session?14:40
smartboyhwballoons, not me (you know the reason I think_)14:40
knomeelfy said he can't, but i'll try to be there14:40
knomeat least on IRC14:40
balloonssmartboyhw, IRC works14:40
knome(and following the video)14:40
smartboyhwknome, you are not going to do it video:14:40
smartboyhw?14:40
balloonsI won't force anyone on camera.. but if none of you join, then you get me again :-)14:40
smartboyhwballoons, LOL14:41
balloonsI mostly want to have the discussion14:41
knomesmartboyhw, don't know i'm able to due to other things14:41
balloonsIRC or video is fine14:41
smartboyhwballoons, um, then why just not do the conversation in IRC only?14:41
balloonsknome is a fast typer, unlike me :-)14:41
smartboyhwballoons, I am too:P14:41
balloonstalking is quite useful14:41
knome(and i don't have a G+ account, so i'd need to enable G+ and then disable after the session)14:41
knometalking does help14:41
smartboyhwballoons, I will try to get somebody coming14:42
knomeballoons, elfy actually left a few notes on the pad14:43
balloonssmartboyhw, irc works, leave notes on the pad or type along14:43
balloonsI would really like knome and elfy to talk to the other flavors about using testcases and the tracker and how it's worked out for them.. also potentially writing autopilot tests, and running the ubiquity install tests for flavors too, etc14:44
smartboyhwballoons, I will leave some notes in pad14:44
knomeballoons, i can do that14:45
balloonswonderful, thanks!14:46
balloonsphillw, leave some notes if you can't attend :-)14:46
SergioMenesesballoons, I have a not: why can not be possible vUDS on weekends?14:49
SergioMenesess/not:/note14:50
balloonsSergioMeneses, that's good feedback to give. It could potentially be interesting to have one day be a weekend day14:51
balloonsit's 3 days, at least one won't be weekend :-)14:51
balloonsI don't schedule the dates, I just show up :-)14:51
SergioMenesesballoons, ok, until Saturday would be amazing14:52
knomeballoons, SergioMeneses: talk with jono.14:52
balloonsthey typically have a feedback survey after uds.. good to mention it in there14:53
balloonsalso14:53
knomesure, but talking directly to him is much more useful14:55
knomeespecially if you happen to be working for canonical14:55
SergioMenesesknome, agree14:56
elfyballoons: I'd love to be there tommorrow - but work is interfering14:56
SergioMeneseselfy, +100k14:58
balloonsknome, SergioMeneses I will directly mention it :-)14:58
knomeSergioMeneses, you're cheating, there is only +114:59
SergioMenesesballoons, thanks!14:59
SergioMenesesknome, mm... ok15:00
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phillwballoons: when is meeting on vUDS ?15:14
elfyphillw: 3pm tomorrow15:15
phillwelfy: UTC?15:16
elfyreal time :)15:16
phillwokies, 4pm my time :) I'll make sure I attend :D15:16
elfyphillw: you not in England at the moment?15:17
phillwelfy: yes :)15:17
smartboyhwphillw, where are you now?15:18
phillwso, 3pm BST ?15:18
elfyyea - real time - as on your watch - 3pm :)15:18
elfyturn up at 4 and you'll miss it phillw15:18
phillwokies, I'll make sure I'm back from the weekly shop with my Mum by then!15:20
knomephillw, just make sure she doesn't jam up when shopping undies :P15:20
smartboyhwknome, (to not disturb your meeting) The new Catfish works, Ubuntu Studio images are perfectly built15:56
knomeokay, thanks15:56
senan_balloons: is the tests are called in the same order we write ?16:39
balloonssenan_, the tests are called in a random order. each test should be self contained and not assume any other test has been run16:41
senan_Ok. I thought the tests are called in the same order we write..thanks :)16:43
balloonsyour welcome :-) I hope it's coming along16:46
DanChapmansenan_, hey how have you been getting on?16:46
senan_DanChapman : I downloaded saucy and setup in vmware player..just started checking the new UI :(16:47
senan_DanChapman, It is not working properly when launched from VM..16:48
DanChapmansenan_: whats not working?16:48
senan_DanChapman, tests I've written. mouse clicks are not proper.16:49
senan_DanChapman, Need to check what is wrong :(16:49
DanChapmansenan_, ok. Give me a shout if you need help :-)16:51
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senan_DanChapman, sure..I think I'll have to reformat my hdd and install saucy instead of using VM17:01
senan_Is saucy stable enough to use as primary OS ?17:05
senan_DanChapman, balloons : Good Night17:09
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balloonsLetozaf_, hpw19:06
balloonsLetozaf_, how's rss reader19:06
Letozaf_balloons, hi19:07
knomeballoons, so are todays sessions done?19:07
Letozaf_balloons, the rssreader is quite ok, I have just one problem getting the Canonical Topic19:07
balloonsknome, last one :-)19:07
balloonsLetozaf_, ok, one more day of UDS, hehe19:08
Letozaf_balloons, yeah!19:08
knomeballoons, ok, ping me when you're available19:08
balloonsknome, I will19:13
knometa19:14
balloonsLetozaf_, ok, well get help as you need it, as you can :-)19:15
balloonsI know your working on it19:15
knomeyou're19:16
balloonsI'm triple tasking, I forgive myself19:16
* balloons thanks knome19:16
Letozaf_balloons, I will try to :D19:16
balloonsknome, shoot20:05
knomeballoons, can we remove those duplicate tests?20:06
knomelet me login and get you the specifics20:06
knomeballoons, http://packages.qa.ubuntu.com/admin/config/services/qatracker/testsuites/348/edit & http://packages.qa.ubuntu.com/admin/config/services/qatracker/testsuites/363/edit20:07
knomeballoons, these are the testcases that are giving us the "archived" bug/pain20:07
balloonsknome, stgraber has the keys to the db, so if you can't remove it, I can't either!20:08
knomeboo20:09
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sak_will Mir be available for all flavors of ubuntu; xubuntu, lubuntu, kubuntu?23:10
knomesak_, your blog article and G+ post is incorrect.23:11
melodiehi23:11
sak_i just noticed. i was under the impression that xubuntu would use Mir since there were "calls for testing" for the QAteam. sorry for being miss-informed.23:16
knomesak_, a simple search of "xubuntu mir" on google would have been enough to check for sources23:17
knomerather than guessing or expecting things, check the facts next time23:17
sak_thank you knome, will do in the future23:19
knomethanks.23:19
knomesak_, ...i would also appreciate if you fixed the G+ post and blog article which still have incorrect information23:42

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