[06:36] <DanChapman> morning all
[08:10] <DanChapman> pitti, hey nice work on that shotwell test. :-) quick question, have you added anything new to autopilot-gtk recently, for some reason I can now access the items in a treeview :-) although some have neg rect-coordinates so their no good but most ive seen seem ok
[08:11] <thomi> DanChapman: that was fixed a while ago, IIRC
[08:12] <pitti> DanChapman: no, I didn't
[08:13] <DanChapman> thomi, oh was it :-) awesome!!
[08:13] <pitti> DanChapman: I didn't get any sub-widgets on the tree view, hence the "blind" nagivation with tab
[08:13] <pitti> and I tried that just a few days ago
[08:15] <DanChapman> pitti, they don't appear under the tree view widget itself but in the GtkWindowAccessible tree, under GtkTextCellAccessible you can get with with there accessible name, they are buried quite deep but they are there :-)
[08:15] <pitti> DanChapman: ah, I ignored the *Accessible bits
[08:15] <pitti> nice
[08:16] <pitti> DanChapman: well, it was my first real ap test (aside from the ap-gtk testsuite)
[08:16] <pitti> so I'm still learning :)
[08:16] <pitti> thanks for the hint!
[08:16] <DanChapman> pitti, were all still learning :-)
[08:23] <Noskcaj> DanChapman, FYI: someone already ported testdrive to GTK3, it just needs fixing
[08:24] <DanChapman> Noskaj, oh have they, have you got a link to the branch?
[08:24] <DanChapman> Noskcaj: ^^
[08:31] <Noskcaj> DanChapman, https://code.launchpad.net/~jbicha/testdrive/port-to-gtk3
[08:31] <DanChapman> Noskcaj: thanks :-)
[08:31] <Noskcaj> np
[12:55] <balloons> ohh porting testdrive to gtk3 :-=)
[13:12] <smartboyhw> balloons, those people are great:P
[13:23] <balloons> DanChapman, I wish you could have made the autopilot session yesterday
[13:24] <smartboyhw> balloons, I wish I could join in any session:(
[13:24] <balloons> elopio, check out the gtk emulator DanChapman is building. He's doing some things we talked about wanting to do yesterday in the call: ubuntuhackers.com
[13:25] <elopio> balloons: looking
[13:26] <smartboyhw> DanChapman, is there any source code for the theme of your blog?
[13:27]  * balloons can't wait till DanChapman's blog is on planet :-)
[13:28] <smartboyhw> balloons, I agree
[13:29] <elopio> DanChapman: wow, you have made a lot of them!
[13:30] <balloons> yea, I was on the fence about how much could be done, but I really like what's been done.
[13:32] <elopio> I wonder if libautopilot-gtk would be a good place to keep them
[13:32] <elopio> or if it's better to have a separate project.
[13:33] <smartboyhw> phillw, what is partaking?
[13:34] <DanChapman> balloons: I was listening in to the autopilot session yesterday but couldn't paticipate in it
[13:34] <phillw> smartboyhw: http://www.thefreedictionary.com/partake
[13:34] <DanChapman> smartboyhw: yeah I got the source for it if you want it
[13:34] <smartboyhw> DanChapman, send it to smartboyhw@ubuntu.com
[13:34] <DanChapman> smartboyhw: I'll get that to you some point today
[13:35] <smartboyhw> phillw, I learnt a new English word!
[13:36] <phillw> it's a lazy way of saying "taking part" in the sense that I used it ;)
[13:38] <DanChapman> elopio I wondered the same about where it should go but I was sceptical about how it would turn out at first. But it seems to be holding up ok. balloons we should probably think about where it should actually end up
[13:38] <balloons> elopio, DanChapman it is interesting having such emulators be a part of the project..
[13:39] <balloons> for gtk, all gtk apps can benefit from it, so it's even more universal than the qml one
[13:44] <balloons> pitti, can you make this session? http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1308/meeting/21840/community-1308-quality-reporting-bugs/
[13:48] <knome> hey balloons
[13:48] <balloons> hey knome
[13:48] <knome> balloons, i still can't *delete* testcases or even *unlink* them from testsuites
[13:48] <knome> balloons, is that expected (and why) or is it a bug?
[13:49] <balloons> knome, inability to delete is expected
[13:49] <balloons> unlinking perhaps as well you can only disable
[13:49] <knome> balloons, what about unlinking?
[13:49] <knome> that's stupid
[13:49] <knome> remember our bug with that?
[13:49] <balloons> this is done to ensure accurate history
[13:49] <knome> aha
[13:50] <balloons> the unlinking thing might be fixable, it depends
[13:50] <knome> stgraber told he's going to fix the original bug, but seriously, super admins should be able to unlink at their discretion
[13:52] <pitti> balloons: ah, I was gong to go to "error reporting for click packages"
[13:52] <pitti> too bad that they colide
[13:53] <pitti> balloons: oh, your's is in the next slot; can do
[13:56] <balloons> pitti, :-) ty
[13:57]  * DanChapman can't decide which session to go to 
[13:58] <SergioMeneses> vuds sessions time is killing me =/
[13:59] <smartboyhw> SergioMeneses, you are better than me
[14:00] <smartboyhw> Age restrictions are killing me =/
[14:00] <SergioMeneses> smartboyhw, I dont think so xD
[14:00] <SergioMeneses> age? about what?
[14:00] <smartboyhw> SergioMeneses, huh, you haven't looked at my newest post did you?
[14:02] <SergioMeneses> smartboyhw, no, I didnt
[14:03]  * SergioMeneses checks
[14:15] <SergioMeneses> smartboyhw, lol
[14:15] <SergioMeneses> google did you that, really?
[14:15] <SergioMeneses> jajaja
[14:15] <smartboyhw> SergioMeneses, really
[14:15] <SergioMeneses> epic fail
[14:15] <SergioMeneses> for google
[14:15] <knome> well you can always just create a puppet account and tell you're over 18.
[14:15] <smartboyhw> knome, well, I hate lying about my age
[14:17] <SergioMeneses> knome, smartboyhw but google says the content is inappropriate or something like that?
[14:17] <knome> SergioMeneses, yes, because his current account states he is less than 18.
[14:17] <knome> SergioMeneses, if he created a new account saying he is 18 or more, google doesn't restrict his access.
[14:18] <SergioMeneses> mmm....
[14:23] <smartboyhw> balloons, is ANYBODY joining you on Hangout?
[14:37]  * smartboyhw thinks poor balloons is lonely
[14:37] <DanChapman> smartboyhw: http://ubuntuone.com/1lN3fQdAvV6rLmaAYVPHDF
[14:37] <smartboyhw> DanChapman, gonzo:O
[14:38]  * smartboyhw has heard of that name as a famous Japanese animation production company:O
[14:39] <knome> balloons, tap.. tap.. tap..
[14:40] <balloons> so elfy knome phillw smartboyhw you able to make the quality flavors session?
[14:40] <smartboyhw> balloons, not me (you know the reason I think_)
[14:40] <knome> elfy said he can't, but i'll try to be there
[14:40] <knome> at least on IRC
[14:40] <balloons> smartboyhw, IRC works
[14:40] <knome> (and following the video)
[14:40] <smartboyhw> knome, you are not going to do it video:
[14:40] <smartboyhw> ?
[14:40] <balloons> I won't force anyone on camera.. but if none of you join, then you get me again :-)
[14:41] <smartboyhw> balloons, LOL
[14:41] <balloons> I mostly want to have the discussion
[14:41] <knome> smartboyhw, don't know i'm able to due to other things
[14:41] <balloons> IRC or video is fine
[14:41] <smartboyhw> balloons, um, then why just not do the conversation in IRC only?
[14:41] <balloons> knome is a fast typer, unlike me :-)
[14:41] <smartboyhw> balloons, I am too:P
[14:41] <balloons> talking is quite useful
[14:41] <knome> (and i don't have a G+ account, so i'd need to enable G+ and then disable after the session)
[14:41] <knome> talking does help
[14:42] <smartboyhw> balloons, I will try to get somebody coming
[14:43] <knome> balloons, elfy actually left a few notes on the pad
[14:43] <balloons> smartboyhw, irc works, leave notes on the pad or type along
[14:44] <balloons> I would really like knome and elfy to talk to the other flavors about using testcases and the tracker and how it's worked out for them.. also potentially writing autopilot tests, and running the ubiquity install tests for flavors too, etc
[14:44] <smartboyhw> balloons, I will leave some notes in pad
[14:45] <knome> balloons, i can do that
[14:46] <balloons> wonderful, thanks!
[14:46] <balloons> phillw, leave some notes if you can't attend :-)
[14:49] <SergioMeneses> balloons, I have a not: why can not be possible vUDS on weekends?
[14:50] <SergioMeneses> s/not:/note
[14:51] <balloons> SergioMeneses, that's good feedback to give. It could potentially be interesting to have one day be a weekend day
[14:51] <balloons> it's 3 days, at least one won't be weekend :-)
[14:51] <balloons> I don't schedule the dates, I just show up :-)
[14:52] <SergioMeneses> balloons, ok, until Saturday would be amazing
[14:52] <knome> balloons, SergioMeneses: talk with jono.
[14:53] <balloons> they typically have a feedback survey after uds.. good to mention it in there
[14:53] <balloons> also
[14:55] <knome> sure, but talking directly to him is much more useful
[14:55] <knome> especially if you happen to be working for canonical
[14:56] <SergioMeneses> knome, agree
[14:56] <elfy> balloons: I'd love to be there tommorrow - but work is interfering
[14:58] <SergioMeneses> elfy, +100k
[14:58] <balloons> knome, SergioMeneses I will directly mention it :-)
[14:59] <knome> SergioMeneses, you're cheating, there is only +1
[14:59] <SergioMeneses> balloons, thanks!
[15:00] <SergioMeneses> knome, mm... ok
[15:14] <phillw> balloons: when is meeting on vUDS ?
[15:15] <elfy> phillw: 3pm tomorrow
[15:16] <phillw> elfy: UTC?
[15:16] <elfy> real time :)
[15:16] <phillw> okies, 4pm my time :) I'll make sure I attend :D
[15:17] <elfy> phillw: you not in England at the moment?
[15:17] <phillw> elfy: yes :)
[15:18] <smartboyhw> phillw, where are you now?
[15:18] <phillw> so, 3pm BST ?
[15:18] <elfy> yea - real time - as on your watch - 3pm :)
[15:18] <elfy> turn up at 4 and you'll miss it phillw
[15:20] <phillw> okies, I'll make sure I'm back from the weekly shop with my Mum by then!
[15:20] <knome> phillw, just make sure she doesn't jam up when shopping undies :P
[15:56] <smartboyhw> knome, (to not disturb your meeting) The new Catfish works, Ubuntu Studio images are perfectly built
[15:56] <knome> okay, thanks
[16:39] <senan_> balloons: is the tests are called in the same order we write ?
[16:41] <balloons> senan_, the tests are called in a random order. each test should be self contained and not assume any other test has been run
[16:43] <senan_> Ok. I thought the tests are called in the same order we write..thanks :)
[16:46] <balloons> your welcome :-) I hope it's coming along
[16:46] <DanChapman> senan_, hey how have you been getting on?
[16:47] <senan_> DanChapman : I downloaded saucy and setup in vmware player..just started checking the new UI :(
[16:48] <senan_> DanChapman, It is not working properly when launched from VM..
[16:48] <DanChapman> senan_: whats not working?
[16:49] <senan_> DanChapman, tests I've written. mouse clicks are not proper.
[16:49] <senan_> DanChapman, Need to check what is wrong :(
[16:51] <DanChapman> senan_, ok. Give me a shout if you need help :-)
[17:01] <senan_> DanChapman, sure..I think I'll have to reformat my hdd and install saucy instead of using VM
[17:05] <senan_> Is saucy stable enough to use as primary OS ?
[17:09] <senan_> DanChapman, balloons : Good Night
[19:06] <balloons> Letozaf_, hpw
[19:06] <balloons> Letozaf_, how's rss reader
[19:07] <Letozaf_> balloons, hi
[19:07] <knome> balloons, so are todays sessions done?
[19:07] <Letozaf_> balloons, the rssreader is quite ok, I have just one problem getting the Canonical Topic
[19:07] <balloons> knome, last one :-)
[19:08] <balloons> Letozaf_, ok, one more day of UDS, hehe
[19:08] <Letozaf_> balloons, yeah!
[19:08] <knome> balloons, ok, ping me when you're available
[19:13] <balloons> knome, I will
[19:14] <knome> ta
[19:15] <balloons> Letozaf_, ok, well get help as you need it, as you can :-)
[19:15] <balloons> I know your working on it
[19:16] <knome> you're
[19:16] <balloons> I'm triple tasking, I forgive myself
[19:16]  * balloons thanks knome
[19:16] <Letozaf_> balloons, I will try to :D
[20:05] <balloons> knome, shoot
[20:06] <knome> balloons, can we remove those duplicate tests?
[20:06] <knome> let me login and get you the specifics
[20:07] <knome> balloons, http://packages.qa.ubuntu.com/admin/config/services/qatracker/testsuites/348/edit & http://packages.qa.ubuntu.com/admin/config/services/qatracker/testsuites/363/edit
[20:07] <knome> balloons, these are the testcases that are giving us the "archived" bug/pain
[20:08] <balloons> knome, stgraber has the keys to the db, so if you can't remove it, I can't either!
[20:09] <knome> boo
[23:10] <sak_> will Mir be available for all flavors of ubuntu; xubuntu, lubuntu, kubuntu?
[23:11] <knome> sak_, your blog article and G+ post is incorrect.
[23:11] <melodie> hi
[23:16] <sak_> i just noticed. i was under the impression that xubuntu would use Mir since there were "calls for testing" for the QAteam. sorry for being miss-informed.
[23:17] <knome> sak_, a simple search of "xubuntu mir" on google would have been enough to check for sources
[23:17] <knome> rather than guessing or expecting things, check the facts next time
[23:19] <sak_> thank you knome, will do in the future
[23:19] <knome> thanks.
[23:42] <knome> sak_, ...i would also appreciate if you fixed the G+ post and blog article which still have incorrect information