| === udsbotu changed the topic of #ubuntu-uds-client-2 to: Currently no events are active in this room - http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1308/client-2/ - http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2013/08/28/%23ubuntu-uds-client-2.html | ||
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| OverLord | ... | 13:29 |
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| roadmr | hello | 13:29 |
| OverLord | hi | 13:30 |
| === udsbotu changed the topic of #ubuntu-uds-client-2 to: Track: Client | Improving audio testing | Url: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1308/meeting/21951/client-1308-improving-audio-testing/ | ||
| diwic | Is there a hangout link ? | 13:56 |
| ara | hello | 13:56 |
| diwic | hello | 13:57 |
| ara | roadmr, can I have the hangout link, please¿ | 13:57 |
| roadmr | hi! | 13:57 |
| roadmr | let's see | 13:57 |
| TheMuso | Hey folks. | 13:57 |
| diwic | hi TheMuso | 13:57 |
| diwic | TheMuso, we did an alsa-lib upload today and ogra complained about the UDD branch not being updated correctly | 13:57 |
| diwic | TheMuso, I don't know much about that stuff but just wanted you to be aware | 13:58 |
| diwic | roadmr, I want a hangout link too | 13:58 |
| roadmr | ara, diwic: does it work the same way it did last time? i.e. does a track lead take care of the hangout? | 13:58 |
| TheMuso | diwic: Yeah we don't use that branch. I hold little faith in udd, it never really works in my experience./ | 13:59 |
| ara | roadmr, not sure, let me ask jono | 13:59 |
| seb128 | hey | 14:00 |
| roadmr | hello | 14:00 |
| seb128 | starting the session, one minute | 14:00 |
| roadmr | seb128: thanks!! | 14:00 |
| diwic | TheMuso, okay. So as long as ~ubuntu-audio-dev branches are consistent with what's in the archive, we're happy | 14:02 |
| seb128 | https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/389164c9cbabba9e895a40497a79d7a3a618aaca?authuser=0 | 14:02 |
| seb128 | diwic, TheMuso, roadmr, those who want to join the hangout: ^ | 14:02 |
| zyga | hi | 14:02 |
| roadmr | ara: ^^ want to join? | 14:03 |
| TheMuso | diwic: At least for the moment, yes. | 14:03 |
| * zyga wants to joi | 14:03 | |
| zyga | n | 14:03 |
| seb128 | steam url: http://youtu.be/OWhtKxxt9uk | 14:03 |
| diwic | Am I the only one getting a terrible echo? | 14:05 |
| zyga | yeah | 14:06 |
| zyga | no echo here | 14:06 |
| zyga | QUESTION: should we care about alsa at all in our tests? | 14:11 |
| zyga | ara: testing vs debugging | 14:12 |
| zyga | QUESTION: is this affected by onging arm/android/touch work (decision to focus on pulse) | 14:13 |
| ara | zyga, I will ask it now | 14:14 |
| zyga | thanks | 14:14 |
| diwic | pactl set-sink-port @DEFAULT_SINK@ "analog-output-headphones" | 14:15 |
| zyga | roadmr: is this about pulse being smart and having separate profiles for each type of output connection? | 14:15 |
| zyga | diwic: is @DEFAULT_SINK@ a magic constant? | 14:16 |
| diwic | roadmr, then check the current volume | 14:16 |
| zyga | diwic: or is that some way to hint us that this is a variable name that we need to fill in? | 14:16 |
| diwic | zyga, yes, you can send "@DEFAULT_SINK@" to PulseAduio | 14:16 |
| zyga | ok | 14:16 |
| zyga | thanks | 14:16 |
| zyga | we do parse it out :-) | 14:17 |
| zyga | LAVA LMP board can do plug unplug for audio jacks, I don't know if that's enough to automate this particular test (semi-offtopic) | 14:19 |
| zyga | roadmr: ^^ | 14:19 |
| roadmr | https://wiki.edubuntu.org/Audio/PreciseJackDetectionTesting | 14:20 |
| zyga | default sink should change, right? | 14:21 |
| diwic | roadmr, that is now outdated/obsolete/implemented, | 14:21 |
| diwic | roadmr, pactl monitor | 14:22 |
| zyga | roadmr: perhaps pulse dbus interface has enough data but we cannot use it for 12.04 IIRC | 14:22 |
| diwic | roadmr, it will monitor for all types of events though so you still need to parse pacmd/pactl for changes when things happen | 14:23 |
| spineau | zyga: we also have the env variable PULSE_SINK | 14:23 |
| zyga | diwic: correct me if I'm wrong here (dbus + PA + precise) | 14:23 |
| zyga | diwic: pactl monitor does not exist in precise | 14:23 |
| diwic | roadmr, pactl subscribe, not monitor | 14:23 |
| diwic | sorry | 14:23 |
| zyga | ah | 14:23 |
| zyga | QUESTION: will all of our work on audio testing have to work on 12.04? | 14:24 |
| zyga | I just tested that it works for me | 14:24 |
| zyga | QUESTION: does diwic think we should be testing something essential that we don't do yet | 14:27 |
| zyga | heh | 14:27 |
| zyga | it just got asked | 14:27 |
| zyga | ara, is 5.1 testing possible on any HDMI equipped hardware? | 14:27 |
| zyga | so digital 5.1 is a no-go for linux? | 14:28 |
| zyga | or is that something the OEMs can handle with the price of the laptop | 14:28 |
| diwic | zyga, HDMI 5.1 is possible if you have a receiver. The bandwidth is enough for >6 uncompressed channels | 14:29 |
| TheMuso | zyga: ITs a licensing/pattent issue. | 14:29 |
| diwic | zyga, if you have a capable receiver i e | 14:29 |
| TheMuso | But if you only have S/PDIF, then AC3 is the only option which has licensing/patenting issues. | 14:30 |
| zyga | TheMuso: ah, but since S/PDIF is on the way out, can consumers get 5.1 working on HDMI today? (assuming they have a receiver) | 14:30 |
| zyga | right | 14:31 |
| zyga | let's move | 14:31 |
| zyga | could you repaste the link? | 14:31 |
| roadmr | https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/389164c9cbabba9e895a40497a79d7a3a618aaca?authuser=0 | 14:31 |
| zyga | hmm | 14:32 |
| zyga | copy paste does not work | 14:32 |
| zyga | heh | 14:32 |
| zyga | nope | 14:32 |
| zyga | sorry | 14:32 |
| zyga | my paste is stuck with something else | 14:32 |
| roadmr | :( | 14:32 |
| zyga | we need to certify copy paste | 14:32 |
| zyga | :/ | 14:32 |
| zyga | (venv)zyga@g580:~$ LANG=C pactl list | plainbox dev parse pactl-list | 14:48 |
| roadmr | diwic, TheMuso, seb128 : thanks so much for attending, and all your help and feedback | 14:59 |
| seb128 | thanks for the good session ;-) | 15:00 |
| diwic | roadmr, no problem and feel free to ask questions in the future too - it's just good to spread the knowledge so we are less person dependent | 15:00 |
| === udsbotu changed the topic of #ubuntu-uds-client-2 to: Track: Client | Getting LibreOffice more rolling | Url: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1308/meeting/21942/client-1308-rolling-libreoffice/ | ||
| TheMuso | np | 15:00 |
| seb128 | Sweetshark, there? | 15:05 |
| Sweetshark | yes | 15:05 |
| seb128 | Sweetshark, https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/97172f539c5f577cc47fa77242259abe0825d7d4?authuser=0 | 15:05 |
| seb128 | is your hangout | 15:05 |
| seb128 | share with the people that should be in the session please | 15:05 |
| seb128 | video feed is http://youtu.be/fcF_7mDTAvQ | 15:09 |
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| === udsbotu changed the topic of #ubuntu-uds-client-2 to: Track: Client | System settings backend status | Url: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1308/meeting/21941/client-1308-system-settings-backends/ | ||
| seb128 | ok, time for the next session | 16:05 |
| seb128 | the hangout url is https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/5423f0843ea0c49351f4b1f771400ebf2d0e7cc5?authuser=0 | 16:05 |
| seb128 | for those who want to be on the video | 16:05 |
| seb128 | sorry, waiting for people to join before starting the broadcast | 16:09 |
| lool | No Ken here? | 16:12 |
| seb128 | http://youtu.be/0Omq2FUd4og | 16:12 |
| seb128 | ^ video stream | 16:12 |
| seb128 | lool, he changed browser to get the lower third | 16:12 |
| seb128 | doesn't work in chromium apparently | 16:13 |
| seb128 | notes on http://pad.ubuntu.com/uds-1308-client-1308-system-settings-backends | 16:13 |
| lool | seb128: ah I'm a couple of minutes behind | 16:14 |
| seb128 | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SystemSettings | 16:14 |
| lool | seb128: correct | 16:27 |
| lool | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/ubuntu-touch-flight-mode | 16:28 |
| lool | there will be a dbus service | 16:28 |
| lool | and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FlightMode | 16:28 |
| seb128 | lool, thanks | 16:28 |
| tedg | cyphermox, If you put things there then we can have a place for them: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-system-settings/+bug/1217978 | 16:36 |
| udsbotu | Launchpad bug 1217978 in ubuntu-system-settings "Need a way to manage Wifi Access Points" [Undecided,New] | 16:36 |
| * tedg now blames kenvandine for anything content related | 16:39 | |
| tedg | "This picture sucks, must be kenvandine's fault!" | 16:39 |
| * kenvandine blames tedg for everything | 16:40 | |
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| lool | tedg: touch stuff has a FFE | 16:52 |
| lool | seb128: I think awe is looking after it | 16:52 |
| lool | but to be honest, we've cut some stuff for the 13.10 scope; I dont know whether timed is in or not | 16:53 |
| lool | I would think flightmode is | 16:53 |
| tedg | Yeah, I'd say flightmode is more important | 16:53 |
| lool | there's mms as well on about the same folks | 16:53 |
| lool | there's a MMS session, but again not sure it's meant as a 13.10 feature | 16:53 |
| beedub | manual timezone picker doesn't work | 16:54 |
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| === udsbotu changed the topic of #ubuntu-uds-client-2 to: Currently no events are active in this room - http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1308/client-2/ - http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2013/08/28/%23ubuntu-uds-client-2.html | ||
| bfiller | seb128: has it been agreed what the interface will be to talk to osk? | 17:17 |
| bfiller | I know currently it's a flat file, I heard talk of exposing a dbus interface | 17:18 |
| seb128 | bfiller, no, I've action items to talk to you guys, I think we need to teach that stuff about gsettings | 17:18 |
| seb128 | bfiller, ini style files suck, especially when you start doing stuff like oem overrides | 17:18 |
| bfiller | seb128: lets sync up about that directly | 17:18 |
| seb128 | bfiller, I'm going to dinner soon (it's the 1h dinner slot of vUDS) but I can comment on IRC/read scrollback in a bit | 17:21 |
| * tedg doesn't understand why an OEM would override our clearly perfect defaults ;-) | 17:21 | |
| seb128 | tedg, you are right, if we set french as default it should be good for them as well! :p | 17:22 |
| bfiller | seb128: later in the week works too, better to schedule something when tmoenicke is available as well | 17:22 |
| seb128 | bfiller, ok, do you want to set up a meeting for that? | 17:22 |
| bfiller | seb128: will do | 17:22 |
| seb128 | bfiller, we should get attente in the discussion as well, he's the one working on the language panel (that's where the osk settings are) | 17:23 |
| seb128 | bfiller, thanks | 17:23 |
| bfiller | seb128: ok | 17:23 |
| seb128 | bfiller, attente = William Hua btw | 17:24 |
| seb128 | names help for meeting invitations I guess ;-) | 17:24 |
| seb128 | bfiller, he started on https://code.launchpad.net/~attente/ubuntu-system-settings/maliit-settings/+merge/182643 if you guys want to have a look | 17:24 |
| bfiller | seb128: yes this exists already | 17:30 |
| bfiller | seb128: looking for a list | 17:30 |
| bfiller | it's done :) | 17:31 |
| bfiller | seb128: qtdeclarative5-ubuntu-contacts0.1 is the plugin | 17:32 |
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| seb128 | bfiller_, excellent, thanks, going to check on that | 17:34 |
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