=== udsbotu changed the topic of #ubuntu-uds-client-2 to: Currently no events are active in this room - http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1308/client-2/ - http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2013/08/28/%23ubuntu-uds-client-2.html === dednick is now known as dednick|lunch === dednick|lunch is now known as dednick [13:29] ... [13:29] hello [13:30] hi === udsbotu changed the topic of #ubuntu-uds-client-2 to: Track: Client | Improving audio testing | Url: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1308/meeting/21951/client-1308-improving-audio-testing/ [13:56] Is there a hangout link ? [13:56] hello [13:57] hello [13:57] roadmr, can I have the hangout link, please¿ [13:57] hi! [13:57] let's see [13:57] Hey folks. [13:57] hi TheMuso [13:57] TheMuso, we did an alsa-lib upload today and ogra complained about the UDD branch not being updated correctly [13:58] TheMuso, I don't know much about that stuff but just wanted you to be aware [13:58] roadmr, I want a hangout link too [13:58] ara, diwic: does it work the same way it did last time? i.e. does a track lead take care of the hangout? [13:59] diwic: Yeah we don't use that branch. I hold little faith in udd, it never really works in my experience./ [13:59] roadmr, not sure, let me ask jono [14:00] hey [14:00] hello [14:00] starting the session, one minute [14:00] seb128: thanks!! [14:02] TheMuso, okay. So as long as ~ubuntu-audio-dev branches are consistent with what's in the archive, we're happy [14:02] https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/389164c9cbabba9e895a40497a79d7a3a618aaca?authuser=0 [14:02] diwic, TheMuso, roadmr, those who want to join the hangout: ^ [14:02] hi [14:03] ara: ^^ want to join? [14:03] diwic: At least for the moment, yes. [14:03] * zyga wants to joi [14:03] n [14:03] steam url: http://youtu.be/OWhtKxxt9uk [14:05] Am I the only one getting a terrible echo? [14:06] yeah [14:06] no echo here [14:11] QUESTION: should we care about alsa at all in our tests? [14:12] ara: testing vs debugging [14:13] QUESTION: is this affected by onging arm/android/touch work (decision to focus on pulse) [14:14] zyga, I will ask it now [14:14] thanks [14:15] pactl set-sink-port @DEFAULT_SINK@ "analog-output-headphones" [14:15] roadmr: is this about pulse being smart and having separate profiles for each type of output connection? [14:16] diwic: is @DEFAULT_SINK@ a magic constant? [14:16] roadmr, then check the current volume [14:16] diwic: or is that some way to hint us that this is a variable name that we need to fill in? [14:16] zyga, yes, you can send "@DEFAULT_SINK@" to PulseAduio [14:16] ok [14:16] thanks [14:17] we do parse it out :-) [14:19] LAVA LMP board can do plug unplug for audio jacks, I don't know if that's enough to automate this particular test (semi-offtopic) [14:19] roadmr: ^^ [14:20] https://wiki.edubuntu.org/Audio/PreciseJackDetectionTesting [14:21] default sink should change, right? [14:21] roadmr, that is now outdated/obsolete/implemented, [14:22] roadmr, pactl monitor [14:22] roadmr: perhaps pulse dbus interface has enough data but we cannot use it for 12.04 IIRC [14:23] roadmr, it will monitor for all types of events though so you still need to parse pacmd/pactl for changes when things happen [14:23] zyga: we also have the env variable PULSE_SINK [14:23] diwic: correct me if I'm wrong here (dbus + PA + precise) [14:23] diwic: pactl monitor does not exist in precise [14:23] roadmr, pactl subscribe, not monitor [14:23] sorry [14:23] ah [14:24] QUESTION: will all of our work on audio testing have to work on 12.04? [14:24] I just tested that it works for me [14:27] QUESTION: does diwic think we should be testing something essential that we don't do yet [14:27] heh [14:27] it just got asked [14:27] ara, is 5.1 testing possible on any HDMI equipped hardware? [14:28] so digital 5.1 is a no-go for linux? [14:28] or is that something the OEMs can handle with the price of the laptop [14:29] zyga, HDMI 5.1 is possible if you have a receiver. The bandwidth is enough for >6 uncompressed channels [14:29] zyga: ITs a licensing/pattent issue. [14:29] zyga, if you have a capable receiver i e [14:30] But if you only have S/PDIF, then AC3 is the only option which has licensing/patenting issues. [14:30] TheMuso: ah, but since S/PDIF is on the way out, can consumers get 5.1 working on HDMI today? (assuming they have a receiver) [14:31] right [14:31] let's move [14:31] could you repaste the link? [14:31] https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/389164c9cbabba9e895a40497a79d7a3a618aaca?authuser=0 [14:32] hmm [14:32] copy paste does not work [14:32] heh [14:32] nope [14:32] sorry [14:32] my paste is stuck with something else [14:32] :( [14:32] we need to certify copy paste [14:32] :/ [14:48] (venv)zyga@g580:~$ LANG=C pactl list | plainbox dev parse pactl-list [14:59] diwic, TheMuso, seb128 : thanks so much for attending, and all your help and feedback [15:00] thanks for the good session ;-) [15:00] roadmr, no problem and feel free to ask questions in the future too - it's just good to spread the knowledge so we are less person dependent === udsbotu changed the topic of #ubuntu-uds-client-2 to: Track: Client | Getting LibreOffice more rolling | Url: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1308/meeting/21942/client-1308-rolling-libreoffice/ [15:00] np [15:05] Sweetshark, there? [15:05] yes [15:05] Sweetshark, https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/97172f539c5f577cc47fa77242259abe0825d7d4?authuser=0 [15:05] is your hangout [15:05] share with the people that should be in the session please [15:09] video feed is http://youtu.be/fcF_7mDTAvQ === barrybarry is now known as barryw === udsbotu changed the topic of #ubuntu-uds-client-2 to: Track: Client | System settings backend status | Url: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1308/meeting/21941/client-1308-system-settings-backends/ [16:05] ok, time for the next session [16:05] the hangout url is https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/5423f0843ea0c49351f4b1f771400ebf2d0e7cc5?authuser=0 [16:05] for those who want to be on the video [16:09] sorry, waiting for people to join before starting the broadcast [16:12] No Ken here? [16:12] http://youtu.be/0Omq2FUd4og [16:12] ^ video stream [16:12] lool, he changed browser to get the lower third [16:13] doesn't work in chromium apparently [16:13] notes on http://pad.ubuntu.com/uds-1308-client-1308-system-settings-backends [16:14] seb128: ah I'm a couple of minutes behind [16:14] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SystemSettings [16:27] seb128: correct [16:28] https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/ubuntu-touch-flight-mode [16:28] there will be a dbus service [16:28] and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FlightMode [16:28] lool, thanks [16:36] cyphermox, If you put things there then we can have a place for them: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-system-settings/+bug/1217978 [16:36] Launchpad bug 1217978 in ubuntu-system-settings "Need a way to manage Wifi Access Points" [Undecided,New] [16:39] * tedg now blames kenvandine for anything content related [16:39] "This picture sucks, must be kenvandine's fault!" [16:40] * kenvandine blames tedg for everything === alex_abreu is now known as alex-abreu [16:52] tedg: touch stuff has a FFE [16:52] seb128: I think awe is looking after it [16:53] but to be honest, we've cut some stuff for the 13.10 scope; I dont know whether timed is in or not [16:53] I would think flightmode is [16:53] Yeah, I'd say flightmode is more important [16:53] there's mms as well on about the same folks [16:53] there's a MMS session, but again not sure it's meant as a 13.10 feature [16:54] manual timezone picker doesn't work === DanChapman is now known as DanChapman|afk === magicluriv is now known as luriv === udsbotu changed the topic of #ubuntu-uds-client-2 to: Currently no events are active in this room - http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1308/client-2/ - http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2013/08/28/%23ubuntu-uds-client-2.html [17:17] seb128: has it been agreed what the interface will be to talk to osk? [17:18] I know currently it's a flat file, I heard talk of exposing a dbus interface [17:18] bfiller, no, I've action items to talk to you guys, I think we need to teach that stuff about gsettings [17:18] bfiller, ini style files suck, especially when you start doing stuff like oem overrides [17:18] seb128: lets sync up about that directly [17:21] bfiller, I'm going to dinner soon (it's the 1h dinner slot of vUDS) but I can comment on IRC/read scrollback in a bit [17:21] * tedg doesn't understand why an OEM would override our clearly perfect defaults ;-) [17:22] tedg, you are right, if we set french as default it should be good for them as well! :p [17:22] seb128: later in the week works too, better to schedule something when tmoenicke is available as well [17:22] bfiller, ok, do you want to set up a meeting for that? [17:22] seb128: will do [17:23] bfiller, we should get attente in the discussion as well, he's the one working on the language panel (that's where the osk settings are) [17:23] bfiller, thanks [17:23] seb128: ok [17:24] bfiller, attente = William Hua btw [17:24] names help for meeting invitations I guess ;-) [17:24] bfiller, he started on https://code.launchpad.net/~attente/ubuntu-system-settings/maliit-settings/+merge/182643 if you guys want to have a look [17:30] seb128: yes this exists already [17:30] seb128: looking for a list [17:31] it's done :) [17:32] seb128: qtdeclarative5-ubuntu-contacts0.1 is the plugin === bfiller is now known as bfiller_ [17:34] bfiller_, excellent, thanks, going to check on that === bfiller_ is now known as bfiller === zyga_ is now known as zyga === DanChapman|afk is now known as DanChapman