[01:29] <grantbow> nhaines_: time traveling from 1995? XFree86 3.1 and Linux 1.2 were current in about 1995 according to wikipedia.
[04:38] <nhaines_> grantbow: time travelling from November 1995!
=== nhaines_ is now known as nhaines
[04:46] <nhaines> Trying to get Debian "1.0" up and running.  And by "running" I mean network support.
[05:04] <pleia2> nhaines: haha
[05:12] <nhaines> pleia2: Ironically, this was my first experience with Linux.  It was so annoying I tried Red Hat 2.1 instead.
[05:13] <nhaines> Of course, Debian 1.0 was actually 0.93R6, which InfoMagic had archived in the middle of the a.out to ELF transition.  The first stable release of Debian had to be called 1.1.
[05:13] <pleia2> nice
[05:14] <pleia2> I came late to the party, never even saw linux until 1999
[05:14] <pleia2> took until 2001 to install redhat 7.2 on one of my own systems
[05:14] <nhaines> My friend from school gave me this (infamous!) 5 CD set.  He was an engineer.
[05:14] <pleia2> :)
[05:15] <Torikun> the good old days
[05:15] <nhaines> He also had OS/2, which was cool but it was a 40MB install and I only had an 80MB hard drive, so I couldn't swing that one.
[05:15] <pleia2> hehe
[05:15] <pleia2> Torikun: actually, not so much
[05:16] <nhaines> Still, 2MB of RAM and enough swap will even get you X.  Although eventually I got 6MB on my 33MHz 386SX.  I kind of wish I'd saved the computer during the last move.  It still worked.
[05:16] <nhaines> Torikun: only because they're old.  ;)
[05:16] <pleia2> I like to think there are much more interesting problems to solve when you don't need to figure out how to get networking and xorg working ;)
[05:16]  * Torikun started with RedHat 5.0
[05:17] <nhaines> pleia2: I had this pinned to my cubicle for at least half a year: http://xkcd.com/963/
[05:17] <darthrobot> Title: [xkcd: X11]
[05:18] <pleia2> haha
[05:18] <Torikun> hahahaah
[05:19] <nhaines> Of course, I didn't have a multisync monitor in those days (no one did) so the risk of letting the magic smoke out from a bad sync line in /etc/X11/X86Config was very real.  At the time I never trusted a file without an extension anyway.  :P
[05:20] <nhaines> Frankly, I'm just happy Debian 0.93R6 came with pico.
[05:21] <pleia2> was pico free then or did they just not care at that time?
[05:21] <nhaines> If anyone at Canonical still cared about the bitmapped console Ubuntu font then I'd really have fun with Debian 0.93R6.  :(
[05:21] <nhaines> pleia2: just didn't care at the time.
[05:22] <nhaines> pine and pico are both there.
[05:22] <pleia2> pine hung around for a long time
[05:22] <pleia2> I remember the switch to alpine
[05:22] <pleia2> but I had long stopped using it because mutt <3
[05:22] <Torikun> awwww alpine
[05:22] <nhaines> I wasn't around for it, and not particularly interested when I got back into Linux.  But I've always been tempted!
[05:22] <Torikun> alpine is back !
[05:23] <nhaines> For two years, pine was how I read my email.
[05:23] <Torikun> its realpine now
[05:23] <Torikun> or this year, back to alpine lol
[05:24] <Torikun> confusing http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alpine_(email_client)
[05:24] <darthrobot> [404] Title: [Alpine (email client - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia]
[05:24] <pleia2> hmm, once slice of pizza at a meetup isn't really doing it for me dinner-wise
[05:24] <nhaines> pleia2: better ask for extra pepperoni.
[05:24]  * pleia2 doesn't eat pork
[05:25] <pleia2> there was one veggie pizza that I snagged a slice of though :)
[05:25] <nhaines> but... but... bacon!
[05:25] <pleia2> I miss pepperoni more than bacon
[05:25] <nhaines> Besides, I thought pepperoni was beef.
[05:25] <pleia2> nope
[05:25] <pleia2> like most sausage, it's pork :\
[05:25] <pleia2> (sometimes pork and beef)
[05:26] <pleia2> I quite like turkey bacon, but it's hard to find replacement pepperoni for a pizza
[05:27] <nhaines> I'm not a fan of turkey bacon.  I mean, I'll eat it, but it's not the same.
[05:27] <pleia2> no, it's not the same
[05:27] <nhaines> Isn't there some kind of vegan pepperoni?
[05:28] <pleia2> boca used to make a vegan pepperoni pizza that was good, but I never found the pepperoni by itself
[05:28] <pleia2> actually, vegetarian
[05:28] <pleia2> once you go vegan you have no cheese on your pizza and that's just crazy talk
[05:30] <nhaines> I had that once.  It was tasty but different.
[05:30] <pleia2> it's a big thing in pennsylvania "tomato pie"
[05:30]  * pleia2 maintains that they forgot the cheese
[05:31] <nhaines> Oh, no...  this had some kind of vegan cheese.  Anna said to think of it as a "spread" and not as "fake cheese".
[05:32] <pleia2> ah :)
[05:34] <nhaines> It was good, but it wasn't cheese.  :)
[05:36]  * pleia2 seeks snacks
[05:46] <nhaines> If I could have gotten ahold of a DEC VT-520 I would.
[05:46] <nhaines> But the people on CL and eBay who want $200 for their "as-is" 386s with no hard drive can....  well, let's just say they can keep them.  :P